The Morning Stream - TMS 2761: Treason Sausages
Episode Date: January 9, 2025Twenty twenty fourive. Medicinal Oregano In My Bag. Scrubbing your goodies. Zoe Sal-DON-yah. Very Dude-y, very Soapy, very demure. Tubular Meat. Zuckerbabies. Kim Jong Un In The Mail. Just lie to me. ...I don't hate the dead. You get NO hot dogs, NO pornography, and NO Leiutenant Yar!! Body Goo on a Crown. Love finds a back door. Go Pee On Your Paid-For Lady! Big Hairy Con with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, 20-24-Rive.
Medicinal oregano in my bag.
Scrubing your goodies.
Zoe Saldanya.
Very duty, very soapy, very demure.
Tubular meat.
Zucker babies.
Kim Jong-un in the mail.
Just lie to me.
I don't hate the dead.
You'll get no hot dogs, no pornography, and no lieutenant y'ar.
Body goo on the crown.
Love finds a backdoor.
Go pee on your paid-for lady.
Big Harry Khan with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Just what does that leadless pencil you call in imagination have in mind to end this scene?
There are fruit bowls in the fridge.
The morning stream.
We're not toys.
We're action figures.
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Thursday, January 9th, 2024.
Oh, no.
No, can't count that as a save.
Four eyes.
You said the R.
The R is the, you could have maybe gotten away with a full.
Yeah. Yeah, I got the R in there and it's gone. Damn it. What did I make it? Nine days?
Nine days. Man. Nine days. You know what? Last year, I think I, I don't think I screwed it up the entire year. You didn't screw up any time that I saw it.
Shit. Well, all right. It's out of my system. Hey, Brian, welcome back. It's me and Brian. It's Scott and Brian, everybody. Hey. Hey, what's up? It's your old pals, Scott and Brian. Doing a show. Hello. It's nice to see you all. It is.
it is a brand new day, which means a brand new show.
And today it'll be fun because Wendy will be here.
She told me this morning that she's got like a, let's see if she replied.
She did.
She said, okay, so last night I said, hey, what do you want to do tomorrow?
You want me to hunt down an email?
Do you want to pick a general topic?
All this.
We do this every week.
And she says, let's do a group experiment or something weird.
Let me think dot, dot, dot.
And I went.
Great.
And then late, and so this morning I said, hey, let me know if you need anything when we go
live just checking in and she says i have a plan winky face uh nothing good nothing good ever came
from those two of the three words so you and i are in for it today whatever whatever's going to happen
it'll it'll be what it's going to be uh all right i got to tell you how what's gross scott out the
most last night uh based on brian's recommendation and also i've just been on a tear with all these
Taylor Sheridan projects.
I really like his work.
And it's, you know what?
I'm going to make an ambition here.
And I believe this to be true.
Most of his projects, even his most dutish ones, like, you know, Yellowstone,
uh, hell or high water, uh, Sicario 2, all these things.
They're very dutie.
But at the end of the day, his, and I'm watching Landman, I'm all cut up.
I got one left.
At the end of the day, they're kind of.
kind of soap operas for men with really good production value, but in a lot of ways,
they're very soapy.
Some of the relationship stuff, some of the side stuff, they just get, they get into an area
that if it wasn't so covered in like manly trucks and beards, I would probably, it would
probably feel more like a show that my wife would only want to watch and I might maybe
poke in.
And I'm not, this is not a complaint, by the way.
This is me saying, I'm all in on it.
I really like it.
In the case of Lioness and Sicario is a good example of this, too.
They're a little bit, you know, they have a big military bent, so it's not quite the same.
But all his stuff that's a little more folksy, down home country in the south, you know, land man's all in Texas.
There's a whole lot of accents, a whole lot of southern accents in his work.
Lots of that.
Lots of cowboy hats, all that stuff.
Lots of dust.
Yeah.
And it turns out I'm, you know, prime target for it.
I love that kind of stuff.
I'm all in.
But at the end of the day, I am kind of watching a dude soap opera in a lot of ways.
But anyway, so I'm watching that one yesterday, the Zoe Saldadanya, isn't it?
Saldadia.
And then a bunch of other folks, and it's great.
It's funny, he's got this one actor who's in all the Taylor Sheridan things.
So he is currently in Landman, and he's also one of the operative dudes in.
Yeah, part of the team in Linus.
Yeah, and he's in Yellowstone.
He's like got a job for all the Sheridan Prize.
He must be his best friend or something.
I don't know what's going on.
He's basically like the Johnny Depp to Tim Burton.
A little bit.
A little bit, except more like Sean Gunn bringing his brother around.
Or Sean Gunn being brought around by his brother.
By James Gunn.
Yeah.
That's it it feels like.
They're like old pals or something.
Small roles, but he's just always there.
But anyway, so I'm watching that show because Brian had recommended it.
And I was going to see it anyway.
And I'm like, well, I may as well just get in while I'm waiting for Landman season finale.
So I'm watching it.
and there's a scene where a character loses a tooth in the in the in the in the shower and it falls out of this person's mouth and lands down in the drain and she picks it up and looks at it kind of rinses it off and realizes oh man i lost a tooth it's a very short scene it's meant to illustrate the the ordeal she had just experienced it grossed me out so bad dude really that seems it's such a weird i don't know why i think it's because it's in the i think it's because the i think it's because the thing
thing that was normally in your mouth is now
in that little drain down there where
all the dirt water goes.
You're visualizing, well, better put that back
in. Yeah, because if it was me, it'd
be like a crown or something, right?
So my first thought to her
was like, don't throw that away, dude, you got to go in
and get that work done. You've got to get that fixed.
No chance. So I was just like,
because this happened to me with the crown
in the sink just, what, two weeks
ago where it popped off.
Did it gross you out that it fell in the sink?
I mean, no.
But if had it been a shower drain, it would have, yeah.
That would have grossed me out.
Because that's where all your body goo goes.
It's where all your, you know, you get in there all sweaty, you're pitting out of the gym,
you wash all that down the drain, you scrub your goodies, you know.
And now your tooth's down there just hanging out down there.
It's like, gosh, dang it, dude.
That's a bad place to be.
Yeah, but again, it's not like if that's going back in your mouth.
I mean.
Well, if it was a crown it would.
They'd have to wash it.
And you know what, I would.
I would say,
give me a new crown.
Melt this.
I don't even care if you tell me you're giving me a new crown,
but you secretly just go in the back and wipe this one down with alcohol.
You tell me you're putting in a new crown.
Yeah, no matter what they, yeah, that's the thing is that's what grosses me out.
And if I, because I know what I'd have to do.
Otherwise, you're going to pay $1,200 for that new crown.
And I don't want to pay that.
I'd rather save the money and be told that it was in a, yeah, exactly.
Just lie to me, lie to me.
I'll take it.
I'm here for your lies, dental profession.
Anyway, it gross me out.
Brian, I got a Bucky's follow-up.
I was going to tell you really quickly.
Oh, go ahead.
I was watching Zoe Saldanya as well.
Last night in the Golden Globe nominated.
Did it win?
She won something.
Didn't she?
The actress, the star, the title character,
got best actress
and I keep wanting to call it
Maria Elena Mendoza
what the heck is the name
because she was there's pictures of her
on her Instagram with a big statue
in her hotel room and I thought she won something
didn't she? Yeah
she did yeah the main actress did
win it why am I
why am I um
is Zoe Saladanya the main actress
she okay she
she is accredited as being the main
actress. But Amelia Perez, thank you. Geez, could not come up with the name of this thing.
Zoe Saldania is on screen way more than the actress who stars in this, the actress with the
title role, Carla Sophia Gasson. But it's really like, it's all about the three
women, Zoe Saldana Gomez, and Carla Sophia Gasson.
And Carla is a drug dealer from Mexico who wants out and also wants to transition into a woman and needs Zoe Saldaña's help in relocating her wife and children without them knowing what's going on, faking her death, her old life death, her male death, and her name death, really.
sure and then um helping her find a doctor to to um do the surgery and everything it's and it's a musical
by the way all of this oh geez all right with you're you're you don't like a good crime drama
musical uh uh uh transgender opera um Tina Tina knew everything except the fact that it was a musical
and so we started watching and she's like what they're singing
because she knew the story
from watching the Golden Globes
she, because
that caught her off guard, like afterwards, she's like
yeah, that was okay, I don't know
about it being a musical.
And because I was prepared for it to be a musical,
I really enjoyed it.
I mean, I'd put it, I'd give it like
three out of four stars.
Not my highest rating, but
still pretty good.
Still very, very good.
Yeah.
It's no conclave.
Conclave is the, you know,
that's still the bomb for me.
That's still your big winner
of the of the year.
Yeah.
So here she is with her Golden Globe.
What she went for them?
Best supporting or what?
Oh, she must have gotten it for best supporting.
You know what?
She did get it for best supporting.
Okay.
Okay.
Because, yeah, her Instagram was all about her running around the hotel with this statue.
And I'm like, well, she won something.
I didn't know what it was.
I'd forgotten, I think, in just the fact that Carla Sophia became the first,
um, oh, is it that she didn't win, but she was the first transgender actress to be nominated.
Maybe that was it.
Did, uh, let me see here.
I'm trying to see what I thought that she won, but maybe not.
Golden Globes.
Zubba, Zubba, Zubba.
Best motion picture, musical or comedy.
Best foreign or non-English language motion picture.
Yeah, Carla was nominated.
She didn't get it.
Sleena Gomez was nominated against Zoe Saldania.
Zoe did win.
So that was the winner.
That was the acting winner from the movie.
Yeah, there it is.
Best performance.
Sorry, best performance by a female actor in a supporting role.
That's who got it.
That's great.
The director was nominated.
The screenplay was nominated.
The score was nominated.
Oh, it also won the best original song.
Oh, nice.
For one of the songs in there.
Very cool.
Well, I like her a lot.
I'm glad she, uh, Gimora, Gimora getting hers, man.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Why is Gimora?
Yeah, no, for sure.
Worth, worth seeing.
It's, uh, again, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
going to say it gets my highest
recommendation
the acting
parts were a little bit there was there is some
outside of the main three there were
some really stiff side
actors the
the doctor was really good but man
the first hospital they go to
was just distracting and badly
acted
are they real doctor real real
hospital people maybe possibly
no I'm sure it wasn't
because this thing if there's a hospital
that looks like this with all the neon and
people pushing cars around in a top-down view of an open floor plan where they're
singing, turn a penis into a vagina, turn a vagina into a penis.
Wow.
I hope those are up for music awards at the Oscars.
That'd be great.
Maybe it would be great to see, you know, John Legend go up and sing that one for us.
Sure.
Maybe.
Yeah.
What else is he doing?
Come on now.
Well, that's great.
Another recommendation for you there.
Recommendation.
Not my highest recommendation, a little vinyl.
but a strong but a recommendation than the last nice uh bucky's follow-up from a listener of whom uh let's see
this is michael in north dakota he says this buckies has crazy advertising when you enter
colorado there is a billboard in between fruit fruita is it fruta okay fruta and junction
that says quote hold it buckies is ably ably i think only that that should be only and i think
She mistyed something and he got auto-corrected to Ably.
Ably.
Hold it.
Buckies is only 250 miles away, unquote.
Yes.
Jeez.
Yeah, they have, they do have really weird,
not weird, but tongue-in-cheek kind of signage.
So even on the way up to Fort Collins that our Buckees is just outside of it,
on I-25, on the highway from up north from where I'm at,
You get the, can you smell the beef jerky or smell the barbecue?
Buckees is only 40 miles away or something like that.
Worth it, though.
I'd go $250 for it.
Totally worth it.
I mean, I need to see one.
Oh, and somebody else corrected me.
It's not that there are 48 in the country or 48 states.
48 locations.
Yeah, yeah, 48 locations.
Yeah, yeah.
I had that all wrong.
Yeah, and we're the westernmost and the northernmost, apparently, of the Bucky's locations.
Yeah.
in that that little map
you guys look like
blood spatter
just like a little
up there
it does yeah
down in Texas
where the staboon is
it's like
we clearly are the direction
that the killer
went in after the murder
and accidentally
drop some blood
yeah
that's where
Michael C. Hall
has to come
investigate that little dot
up there
we're going to find
the killer no matter what
another reminder
that we need to keep an eye
on when that series
or that season end
so that we can binge that
got to be soon right i don't know i feel like it just started i bet it's only three episodes three
four episodes in oh is that all okay yeah what have you been have you been hearing yeah i heard good
things heard it's uh heard that it's um the comparison i heard was of all things young sheldon
where you don't think a prequel to something is going to be as good as the end result but somehow
they they transcended a bit and uh great that's exciting so yeah that is yeah um look
like the final episode should be, if this is correct, on Valentine's Day.
So that'll be when Tim and I start binge watching Dexter Original Sin.
Yeah, there's no better time to celebrate the birth of a serial killer than Valentine's Day, I say.
With Irish actor Patrick Gibson playing Dexter.
I didn't know he was Irish.
That's cool.
Those Irish can fake their American accents.
I don't know if I've seen him in anything.
Like, didn't watch the Tudors, didn't watch the passing bells or the OAA.
I've heard that I might want to check out the OA.
Is Christian Slater the dad in this?
Christian Slater is the dad, yeah.
So it's basically like his Mr. Robot.
Right.
I like him and stuff lately.
He was in that thing I just told everyone not to see that I did see, but it was still good.
Is that Zoe Kravitz thing that you saw too?
Oh, I did see that.
The bling twice?
Yeah.
When you remember him, he got the shit kicked out of him toward the end.
ended up dying do you remember you don't remember him in that I don't remember I'm looking and I'm not seeing him in I'm not seeing that movie in his filmography Christian Slater not the other kid oh I'm sorry Christian Slater yes I do remember him in that yeah I was still looking to see if there was anything that I'd seen Patrick Gibson and yeah have you seen is there anything in that list no nothing in the list like every every movie I look at that say nope nope nope didn't see it every TV show nope that's great well Patrick Gibson maybe he's in our future every
everybody keep an eye on that kid never know uh speaking of never knowing dr calhoun has something to say
and he sent it in the form of a voicemail so you guys have to sit here and groove on it like secondhand smoke
all right here it is hello sudden beach this is dr calhoun on the friday show uh you mentioned like
a news person that didn't like movies well from my public speaking class i have an assignment
where they're supposed to, you know, use persuasion to persuade us to induct a movie into their imaginary Hall of Fame.
In every semester, I have students who are like, I don't watch movies.
But one semester, this was during COVID, so we were all on Zoom, I had a student who claimed, and I believe him, to have never seen a movie.
How?
Yeah, I don't, I mean, if you...
So it starts with the parents.
It starts and ends with the parents.
It starts and ends with the parents.
If the parents aren't introducing them to the kids to the movies,
the family-friendly movies that they love,
then, yeah, oh, I don't want to live that life.
I don't even want to imagine what that person's life is like.
I suppose there's a kid somewhere who just can't get excited about it,
but he'd still have to see a movie to know that he didn't like movies.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
And what is it, is it the length of time that a movie takes?
Do you like TV shows?
Do you like 30-minute entertainment?
Because I'll bet you anything that newscaster who hates movies
scrolls on her phone for more than two hours watching TikTok and Instagram reels and all that stuff.
Sure.
Yeah, there's, she is into the entertainment length.
She just doesn't want it all to be the same story, I guess.
Yeah, and I just don't think I believe someone who says, I've never seen a movie.
Never seen a movie, yeah.
You had to have seen something, or you wouldn't know.
You know, you didn't like movies.
And what about what did your school do on a snow day?
Or when they were repaving the playground outside and made you stay inside and watch the shaggy DA or something like that?
Sure.
That's a movie.
Yeah, so are those science movies where they showed you how oxygen and hydrogen combine or whatever.
Yeah.
I don't buy it.
I think your student was lying to you, Dr. Calhoun.
That's what I think.
Dr. Calhoun believes him, though.
Like, he, you know.
That's what teachers do.
They, they're required.
leave you're still in the sergeant shoe yeah okay that's not we that's not weed mr calhoun that's
that's medicinal oregano in my bag for my glauoma they call you mr calhoun or dr calhoun is he
in the chat today they better call him dr calhoun well i would hope so i didn't go to four years
of medical school for you or eight years of medical school for you to call me mr calhoun yeah what
i always forget what his phd's in but um he is not in the chat
We can't get an answer.
The one day is not in the chat.
Oh, they should call him Doc.
That would be great.
Doc.
Hey, Doc, I don't like movies.
I don't want to play this Hall of Fame game, Doc.
Doc Calhoun.
Doc.
Yeah.
I love it.
Well, thank you, Dr. Calhoun, for that.
Quick reminder, we have a video game tournament happening in video game town in Vegas, Las Vegas.
If you have not signed up yet, go to TMS.
Vegas to sign up.
And I did it through our Discord.
which was very easy.
And I think as of right now,
there are maybe 16, 17 of us.
We need more.
More.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You want to.
Let's fill it up.
Let's put all 32 spots in.
And we are happy to tell you that there is,
we're going to have our own little VIP lounge,
thanks to some work by Barry,
who did some feet on the ground work while he was out in Vegas.
He also went to Sphere and saw the Eagles.
What do you say about that? Do you like it?
He said it was an incredible show and he sent me a video from him like, oh, that is, that is, looks really cool.
And I know right now the Eagles are getting specifically for that show, Henley's getting a lot of flack for not singing, like that he's that they're using a recording, he's lip syncing or at least using as a crutch.
I'm, I'm all right with that.
and there's enough visuals around and cool things to look at in there that you don't even need to show me the Eagles.
You could put five people on that stage and tell me they're the Eagles, and I don't care.
I'm going to be looking around at the, uh, yeah, half the, not even half, 80% of that experience is the room you're in.
Exactly, yeah.
Yeah. Tanner was sending me some EDM footage, some, I don't know who it was, but it was crazy and loud and awesome.
Oh, from the sphere? Yeah, from the sphere. Can't remember who the- Oh, I didn't know. They had an EDM?
abandoned that's cool
they're not like residency type thing but they had
a I don't know if they had a night or series of nights
or whatever it was but it looked crazy
but then it made me think
this has to be the worst place for
that kind of concert not because
of anything except how sheer the seats are this isn't a
standing you know you are sitting
down for an EDM you better
be sitting down for an EDM concert with that way
you're going to fall off man
it's just like straight up sheer drop
For every seat.
It's so weird in there.
I don't know how that stuff's OSHA approved at all, if I'm not.
How come we haven't heard of anybody?
It feels like we have to have heard some stories of somebody tumbling down the seats.
Like they leaned forward too far and started tumbling down the section.
Yeah, I don't know if there's a been a chronicled, a recorded version of somebody falling out of there.
But I don't, if they haven't, I'm shocked.
I'm shocked nobody's fallen.
Like, how is some kid just not?
reached too far during the demo movie thing and tumbled down into the three rows below like it's crazy
how they stack everybody so there's uh while we're there potentially there will be there
there may not be an actual concert concert but they will be showing the the u2 concert video in there
which basically uses all of the i think they they show you the band down in one section and then
the um the rest of of sphere is filled with all the other content from that show and um and it's
considerably less although it still feels higher than i'd want to pay i think base ticket price is
a hundred bucks yeah yeah it's like uh look for a coupon look for a group on look for a group on
and i might do it if i could get in there for half of that 50 bucks i'll totally do it i do 50 50 with
no ban there i'd do that but a hundred uh that's yeah that's too much
I think 70 was too much for what they gave us last time.
I feel like 70 was too much.
It was cool saying like 70 you have to consider, all right, 40 for the, for the movie, 30 for the cool robot demos in the, in the lobby, which is only really cool the first time you go to.
Yeah, I don't need to see that ever again, unless they do something new.
Maybe they will in some more robots.
I mean, I'm of the opinion that that sphere thing needs to be seen at least once.
people need to check it out and do it.
But give us a deal.
I know that's expensive.
I know it's like a billion dollars that thing.
I know.
Yeah, they got to make your money back.
Yeah.
Try to cut.
Just give the common man a little better deal.
All right.
Also something very funny.
It's called sphere, right?
You know, where they're saying, oh, it's you two at sphere, Eagles at sphere.
But the website is thespere.com.
Yeah.
Yeah, they can try to make us change it all they want, but they even do it.
Their URL is
Sorry, URL is what we go by
Thank you
And I think it's okay to call it the sphere
There's nothing like it in the world
Just call it thus, it is the sphere
It's the sphere
Yeah, there are many spheres
But this is the sphere
Anyway
Let me know when they do a Mario Kart tournament
On that thing and then I'll go
Okay, yeah, we're in, we'll do it
I might pay 100 for interactive
Like video game screen
I might do that all over it
Oh looks like there will be a concert there
how do you feel about the
the newest iteration of the Grateful Dead
Scott? Don't care at all.
Not even a little.
I mean, I don't hate
the Dead or anything. They're fine, but I don't
have that fandom, everyone does.
You don't want to spend 300 bucks
to go see a band that
might put you to sleep?
Is that what they are? $300?
They're probably $300. Let's see here.
Dead and Company live at Sphere
find tickets. Let's see what the lowest price tickets are. Yeah, except and continue.
274.97 before taxes and fees.
All right. So that's an entry-level OLED or a steam deck. You can get a steam deck for that much.
Yeah. Yeah. Why would I forget it? It's not happening.
Yeah. I even like about 18 songs.
by the dead and the Grateful Dead, and I don't think I could, I don't think I could even pay half
price.
Plus, let me guess, all the sphere stuff is going to be giant morphy flowers.
It's going to be morphing flowers all the time.
It's, it's just basically, we hooked up a camera to a kaleidoscope for two hours.
These, these bozos on acid won't be able to tell the difference.
Yeah, yeah, I don't, that's too much.
Can't do it.
Yeah.
But good luck at all you deadheads and scraping up that kind of scratch.
You know, some of you, some of you just try.
travel with the band. That's still a thing, right?
Sure. Sure.
Not roadies.
What are they called?
I mean, Deadheads.
Deadheads.
Yeah, can you imagine, though?
I mean, the price that they're having to pay if they want to see every sphere concert,
because it's somewhat of a residency.
It's like two, three months.
There's no way that deadheads are forking over that much.
Not the deadheads I'm familiar with.
Maybe they all had a big crypto windfall.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Yeah.
My heater's not working.
Warm me up.
Aw.
Come on, you bastard.
All right.
Heat me up.
Quick,
quick jump into some news here.
We got to,
we got to inform the folks at home
about what's going on in the world.
You know about the fires in California.
You know about all the political machinations.
Let us fill in the blanks.
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Mark Zuckerberg in the news, not because he's being weird right now, and he is.
Not because he's basically saying, we're really tired of providing what we like to consider facts on Facebook,
so we're not going to do even that little bit anymore.
Yeah. Cutting out the tiny bit they barely do.
Barely do. And just saying, we're not going to fact check anymore. Forget it. Just let the misinformation run free.
I don't know. I prefer companies who at least give me.
tools to control what I see.
So if you're going to trade for that, that's fine, but they're not doing that.
They're not letting me have any tools.
They're just saying, we're not going to do any kind of checking.
God, that'd be great.
Like, give you a list of checkboxes.
Like, you know, how many, or a little field, how many genders are there?
Or I think there are only two genders.
You can check that box.
I think the earth is flat.
You can check that box.
And then that opens up all the posts that you potentially could see.
well all of the basically blue sky gives me all the tools i'm looking for and i just need them to do something similar if they want me around and if you don't that's fine i guess i'm off meta shit like all right like i don't understand this all this whole push i do i do and there's a lot of deeper we could go into it we're not going to we're not a political show we're staying out of that shit but anyway jury will tackle that very well and yeah get yourself from triple p go listen to it there yeah uh uh mar
Mark Zuckerberg insists that the 5,000 square foot underground structure in his secret Hawaii compound is not a doomsday bunker.
He insists that it's not.
Yeah.
Nothing about that screams doomsday bunker to me.
5,000 square foot, underground structure, secret compound.
No, no.
Feels like it's, you know, it's the auditorium for your next trade show that nobody knows about.
Yeah, I'm sure it's just a big open to the public kind of tour.
and everything's fine over there.
Last December, a lengthy wired investigation said the meta-CEO and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg.
Oh, here's the thing that annoyed me.
Sorry, I've got to say this real quick.
Yeah.
The other day he was saying, in some interview, talking about Facebook and how they're going to pull away all this, you know, the misinformation team and the team's involved with like, I can't remember what they're called.
But anyway, they're pulling all that stuff out.
He was being questioned about it.
And he says, look, you know, when I started this, this site, I did it so that there was a, everybody who would have a chance at a free speech platform.
And I went, hold up, wait a minute, that's not true.
You made a hot or not website for Harvard.
Exactly.
It was for rating, rating people's looks initially.
Yeah, don't gaslight me, twerp.
We saw, we saw the movie.
We saw Eisenberg.
I know what you're doing.
what you did give me a freaking break anyway that annoyed me uh he says
this new a Chechnine and drug dealer look with his big old gold chain and his
baggy black uh shirt and trying to reinvent himself and i think it's pathetically lame
it's just looks better whatever i mean he is what he is he's got more money than god whatever
go to your bunker and you know pee on your you're you're paid for lady i don't know
Whatever.
You're paid for, lady.
That's a nice way of me of saying.
Paid for lady, yes.
It says here, this is, he's in the process of building a 1,400 acre compound on the Hawaiian island of Kauai, which would include an underground shelter spanning over 5,000 square feet.
It's according to this wired investigation.
More than twice the size of the average private home in the U.S.
In a recent interview on Bloomberg, Zuckerberg was asked of the underground space was just a shelter.
But it wasn't just a shelter, but rather a doomsday bunker.
He says, no, I think that's just like a little shelter, he says.
It's like a basement, a little basement.
A little double the house size basement.
Yeah.
And double the size of an average private family home in the U.S.,
but like triple the size of a home in Hawaii, the average size of a home in Hawaii.
Yeah, because nobody's got room to build giant, well, some do, and they're very expensive.
Some do.
Like he does.
Exactly.
It says here, Wired's investigation suggested that his top secret Hawaii compound would cost roughly $270 million to build.
Again, nothing to him.
That's nothing.
Is there one canned good in that shelter, in that basement, that little basement?
If there is, then it's a bunker.
Then it's a bunker.
If he has one, let's just say there's one canned good, what do you think Zuckerberg puts in his thing?
Looking at him, it's clearly creamed corn.
I mean, the guy, the guy is creamed corn.
Oh, I guess that is a Tom and, or a, uh, uh, uh, can.
Fred, Fred and Ken, Fred and Ken, forgot, forgot that.
It's all right.
Cair's my favorite character in that, uh, strip.
He's the only one I care about, I don't care about Fred.
Yeah, Fred's just there to interact with, right?
Cair's the most important.
You didn't see, you didn't see me making you a little model, Fred.
I made a little model of canned.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We know where our bread is buttered.
Oh, we need to do a little 3D print.
can.
Yeah.
A little miniature little 3D print can with the out of the embossed, let people paint their
own can.
Yeah, and put them on.
We could even have it on top of that little wooden pedestal he's always on.
Oh, sure.
He says in the comic, people always wonder how he's, he's always up to sort of be able to speak
directly to Fred or anyone else.
Otherwise, he'd be on the floor.
Exactly.
So he's got his own custom little wooden pedestal.
It's just the right size to put a can on.
That's the story I'm sticking with.
Oh, Tevis, Travis, you already working on that?
Okay, you continue working on that.
Sorry.
Oh, Travis.
Is he now?
That's cool.
I didn't know that.
Anyway, where the hell was I?
He thinks it's just a tiny little, he thinks it's just a little shelter.
Wired's investigation suggested, oh, I said that already, $270 million, its own energy and food supplies in there.
It's made of metal and concrete.
There's an escape hatch.
It can be accessed via ladder.
A blast-resistant door.
He's making a...
A blast-resistant door.
Just a door for your little basement.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, you're, you think the world, when the world ends, you've got it figured out.
And maybe you do.
I don't know.
The future of humanity is a bunch of Zuckerbabies.
Look forward to that.
Almost everyone who worked on the construction of Zuckerberg's top secret
Hawaiian compound was bound by strict non-disclosure agreements, so nobody can talk about it.
From painters to security guards to electricians and carpenters, sources told the publication that Zuckerberg's team,
even hired different construction crews
to work on separate projects within the same site
and workers from different crews
were forbidden to speak with one another.
I'm sorry, but that sounds
like your secret bunker to me.
Yeah, like crews are forbidden to speak to one another
so that nobody knows, like it's the eight blind people
finding an elephant.
Like, oh, I found a rope.
Oh, I found a tree trunk.
Oh, I found a garden hose.
Nobody knows it's an elephant
because they're not allowed to talk to each other.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, good look to the burgh, the burgh, the burgs.
The burg.
I like that, the burg.
Yeah, he's the burg.
Not the Zuck.
We don't call him Zuck anymore.
It's too cool.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
He's the burg.
The Berg.
Kim Jong-un in the mail in the news.
He just showed up on our doorstep in the mail.
He turned to center.
Yeah, please.
He is a dictator, as you know, in North Korea.
And he has done a new, you know, they're always banning shit up there.
They're always like, ah, no, you can't have that.
whatever it is.
They have now banned hot dogs from North Korea.
No hot dogs.
Of course.
Yeah.
No hot dogs.
Armour hot dogs.
You can't.
Armour hot dogs.
Big kids, little kids, kids who climb on rocks.
Fat kids, skinny kids, even kids with chicken pox love hot dogs.
Armour hot dogs.
They're not allowed to eat them here.
That's basically it.
That's right there.
They say that cooking them is an act of treason.
North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, known for his intense crackdowns on his citizens in everyday life.
It's now a popular food item being banned, according to the reports.
He has banned North Koreans from eating hot dogs as part of a crackdown on Western culture,
slowly oozing its way into the Hermit Nation.
The Hermit Nation.
The Hermit Nation.
That's where, what was the band with somebody in the Hermits?
Old one?
Herman, Herman's Hermits.
Herman's Hermits.
That was their fault.
That's their dead.
heads.
The hermit nation.
Follow them everywhere.
The hot dog is grown in popularity in South Korea and Kim has since declared that
serving sausages is now an act of treason against North Korea.
That's interesting because sausages could mean a lot of things.
I was going to say that that expands it.
So Bratwurst, brots are out.
Those are out.
What about, so it's any kind of tubular meat?
Tubular meat.
There you go.
I don't know if they get that.
I don't know if they get that specific.
but I would assume that is what they mean.
You can't have meat processed into tubes of any kind.
What about sausage that's flat petty sausage?
How do you feel about those?
I kind of don't like those.
Oh, I don't mind them.
You don't mind them?
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know why.
It's just the same thing that it's just not an intestine.
I just need a better, maybe a better brand.
The ones I get are not great.
Oh, yeah.
Just greasy.
What's the Schwans?
The company, you know, that drives around.
and throws food at your house.
We get there, breakfast sausage patties, and those are pretty good.
All right.
I'll have to consider that.
I think we just do something from Costco.
I don't know what brand.
Jimmy Dean or something, probably.
Yeah.
Jimmy Deans are cheap.
No.
Get, um, did, didn't Ember send you some, uh, some spices, some seasonings?
Uh, did I get them?
I think she sent them to both of us.
We don't know.
Maybe.
You mix that with some, um,
with some ground pork.
Oh, that's the bomb.
Yeah, she says she sent it to both of us.
Yes, that's, find that, find that, Kim probably used it.
She probably did, and then I forgot.
And Kim probably be the one to actually do this.
But yeah, combine that with some pound of ground pork and a little bit of water, teaspoon water, I think it was.
And you can freeze them really easily, just take out however many you need to cook that day and put them in a frying pan with a little bit of water.
put a cover over the frying pan, let it braze,
because what that's called?
Is that brazing?
Yeah, that's your dairy queen brazier.
The brazier part is how they cook their burgers in water.
Do they, really?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought it was just, I guess that makes sense.
The things, they're always throwing those patties on like a boiling,
I always thought that as oil, I guess is water.
It's just water, I think, yeah.
Wild.
I didn't know that was a thing you could do.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Is that braging or is there something?
There's some, the way that Dairy Queen does their burgers is in that water,
but I'm seeing that a brazier is really just a fire pit that you put, put things in.
So what's the, what is the technique?
I thought it was a van.
It's not a van full of porn actors, right?
That's not what that is.
That's a brazier.
That's a brazer.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's actually the bang bus, I think, is what you're doing.
Oh, okay.
I don't know what any of that shit is.
I know that there's something with a bus full of people that drive around.
supposedly and pick up people and then there's
somehow porn happens.
Well, and if you're in Florida, you don't know anymore.
You just don't know anymore.
It could be any street at any time.
That's right.
Well, no, no.
Florida doesn't get no online porn for Florida anymore.
Oh, can you still film it there, though, right?
You can still, it's probably the filming capital of the world,
but there, all the porn sites,
or at least Porn Hub, gives you an error message if you log in from Florida.
So a whole bunch of people from Florida are learning what VPN means.
Yeah, it's weird because I don't, is it ever, is it all?
I haven't followed the story very well.
I knew about the ban, but I haven't really followed it.
A bunch of states passed like ID check laws.
Right, like where you have to put in a, or, or scan and upload an ID or something.
Yeah, which people obviously is meant to deter people because they don't want to put their personal information up there.
Right.
So Utah is one of them
And so if you
Let's see what it does actually
I'll try it
Yeah if I go to
It's Utah and Idaho I know for sure
Oh yeah here we are check this out
I get this lady when I go there
Hi I'm Shreda Bill
As you may know your elected officials
Have required us to verify your age
Before granting you access to our website
While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our mission
Anyway
So you get a porn lady telling you that you can't come in here.
She at least naked while she's telling me this.
Nope.
Nope.
But she's wearing like a, here I'll show you.
She's wearing like a striped tiger thing.
There.
Okay.
See that?
Okay.
Yeah.
So you get this.
Very Joe Exotic right there.
So I don't know if anyone can confirm this.
From the Joe Exotic line.
Exactly.
I don't know if anyone in the chat can confirm this, but if you're in Florida, when you go there, do you get the same, you get the same thing?
I'll bet they do, yeah.
You don't just get an error.
You just get like a thing here.
Model or content partner access.
Oh, if you're a model, you still can get it.
Oh, there you go.
So all you have to do is make one video and you get full, full access to porn house.
Yeah, you're all set.
One video.
Yeah.
Do they have?
You're doing videos every day.
You could do one just.
Sure, why not?
Do they have, when they say partners, is that like what YouTube does with people or Twitch or whatever?
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, maybe.
Or maybe it's advertisers or something.
Like, maybe browsers is probably a partner.
Model or content partner.
So, yeah, I was just curious.
Like, do they get in a cut of ad revenue or something?
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway, now it's like nine states or 10 or something.
They're doing this.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I don't know if it's just them because, like, is the entire internet unavailable to,
the entire porn internet not available unless you do the ID thing?
I don't know.
Yeah, does it, you know, I'm sure there are less, less reputable sites that don't say,
hey, come check out, just trying to come up with something, an example of a dark web porn site
that is not an offensive name to somebody.
Yeah.
Oh, I guarantee somebody won't like it.
Dark mud porn site.com.
There you go.
Just to go with that one.
Nailed it.
Darklob porn.
Yeah.
We evaded all stray bullets on that one.
That was good.
I think this, I think this gets lifted if, um, uh, if all the old white men in
Washington, D.C. all of a sudden can access porn.
Like, oh, wait a minute.
We didn't mean us.
Okay.
Uh, we'll take it all back.
Every, every, every state can have porn.
Yeah.
Have extra.
My guess is they'll find a back door.
No pun intended.
They'll find a way.
Yes.
I don't, don't try and come up with an alternative.
meaning of VPN, Scott.
Whatever you do,
don't try to do that.
I want to try it now.
Hold on. VPN.
You know what?
I'll go a different direction.
There's an easy way.
I'll just go the hard way.
So let's go VPN.
Venereal
The venereal pedestrian network.
There.
Okay, there you go.
It's not bad.
They've all got a disease.
We shouldn't help them out.
Visibly visible privates network
That's a good way of putting it
Yeah
All right
Anyway no hot dogs in Korea
No in North Korea
Yeah
I asked my brother about this and he said
Yeah hot dogs are huge in South Korea
They love the hot dogs
In fact there's a Korean place
Owned by a Korean couple
That just opened up down the road
And all they sell are these weird Asian variations
On hot dogs
Oh that sounds really good
I know, it is good.
It's a lot of fried stuff, though, so it's not good for you.
You know what I'm funny?
You know how we always have this thing where I'll bring up a Seinfeld episode
and you'll say last night.
Oh my God, last night, Brian, I just watched that exact Seinfeld episode.
Yeah.
Last night, couldn't sleep, woke up at about 4 o'clock,
and watched an episode of The Simpsons where Homer becomes a grandmaster at chess.
Oh, no way.
Yes.
And what's his face that we've been talking?
talking about the guy who got busted for wearing jeans, Carlson, not Carlson,
whatever that guy's name is, was a celebrity guest voice on the show.
No way.
Yes.
So this must be, well, it probably doesn't have to be that recent.
I guess you're a grandmaster as long as you hold the title, right?
So this guy's been around for a while, been doing stuff.
He's been around for a while.
It was, uh, or series, I mean, season 27, I think.
oh my gosh you're way you're way up there magnus magnus carlson thank you uh oh that's right
magnus in his pants magnus carlson yes old magnus pants pants pants jackson they should call
magnus pants magnus uh jeans carlson that's right uh all right we got a this is a funny story
have you ever done a waymo self-driving car you ever tried that anywhere in a city or anything
Vegas, we were in one for Vegas, but it still had a driver and a, and somebody in the passenger seat taking notes, but they rarely put their hands on the wheel and they spent the whole time pointing out the little screen as a little weird infrared version of what we were seeing through the windshield with circles around faces and squares around stoplights and things like that.
Yeah, Waymo. So the Waymos are pretty cool. In some places you don't need a, that, I think it depends on the,
the laws of the state or city ordinances or whatever, whether you have to have a driver or not.
But this one in particular made a person very dizzy.
A man filmed his time in a Waymo self-driving car, and it just went in circles.
The company says it has fixed a problem that caused a car to repeatedly circle a parking lot for about five minutes while its rider was trying to get to the airport.
Oh, this would suck.
I'd be so mad.
Oh, wait, I was in Autopia at Disneyland.
Never mind.
I was confused.
I thought this was Waymo.
Yeah, you can't blame me.
Last month, Mike Johns, Mike Johns.
Mike Johns.
You guys got two first names right there.
It does.
Posted a video on LinkedIn showing what happened after he was picked up by a Waymo self-driving car in Scottsdale, Arizona.
John said the car made eight circles after a Waymo support agent helped the car get moving in the right direction.
He was driven to the airport in time to make his flight.
Why is this happening to me on a Monday?
I'm in a Waymo car and this car is just going in circles.
I got a flight to catch.
why is this going in a circle i'm getting dizzy he said in the video let's take this
happening to be on a monday yeah like kathie yep you're gonna is freaking garfield all the good
comics right exactly oh here it is we got video here oh let's let's see some video so we can hear it
too okay why is this happening to me on a monday i'm in a waymo car connected to rider support
this car may be recorded for quality assurance this car is just going in in circles either my
Gab, I'm sorry, you've activated
donut mode. Yeah.
Yeah.
Cookie mode.
It would be pretty wild to be in there
and have that happen because you have no one to talk to.
Well, you call support like he did.
Yeah. Yeah. But having no human
in there, weird.
Weird. That's great.
Where was that? Was that in L.A.?
No, it was Arizona. It looked like he was.
Arizona. Oh, yeah. That's right. Scottsdale. Yeah.
Yeah. So you got to go.
I don't know if we haven't here in Denver yet if
in downtown or anything, but.
Waymo in Denver.
Let's see.
Probably not.
Latest car company under investigation.
Let's see.
That's a Fox story in Denver.
Let's see.
Scaling Waymo, one, so two, so...
Looks like Phoenix, San Francisco, and Los Angeles.
Yeah.
With new services planned in Austin, Miami, Tokyo, are the next ones that's expanding, too.
Oh, those donuts should really go over well in the tiny streets of Tokyo.
The narrow...
Oh, here's what's crazy, though.
Waymo Engineering, the company who does most of this is in Colorado.
Oh, really?
Oh, I'm surprised then that we don't have like a,
it seems like this would have been a natural test place for him.
Yeah, 1902 South Franklin Street in Denver, Colorado.
Yeah, okay.
Says here, Waymo Engineering, I think it's the same company.
Let's see.
Yeah, autonomous ride-hailing service based in, that's funny.
They're based in a state.
state they won't let them do it yet.
That's great.
Good.
Let me lift as long as I can before you replace me with AI.
It's happening.
It's coming.
I don't mind.
You know what?
I'm just looking for an excuse to get out of lifting.
I enjoy it.
But there's times I'm like,
I don't want to do this because I feel like I have to sometimes.
Do you ever have any crack off like a big old fart in the car that ever happened to you?
Not one that it was loud.
certainly have smelled a couple.
Yeah, it's like, all right, this part of town doesn't usually have a water treatment plant.
This must be my passenger.
And hopefully they don't think it's me.
But I just say, it's even warm in here.
I'm going to go and open the window if that's cool.
Oh, yeah, that's totally fine.
Yeah, that's great.
They act like they didn't do it.
That's great.
Yeah, exactly.
You should say, hey, I've got an infrared camera.
You're not farting back there, are you?
Somebody broke off the tip of the, so I have a little thing that sits on the,
the headrest of the passenger seat
points towards the back seat
and has three pull-out cables
the three different USB types for charging phones
Lightning, USBC, and whatever the third micro
or whatever it is. Somebody broke off the tip.
I imagine it broke off in their phone
of the lightning cable
and didn't tell me about it.
I didn't find out until somebody was like
oh, I was going to charge my phone.
I was taking some to the airport. She was like,
you don't have a spare cable in here, do you? I'm like,
Oh, I actually do.
But there's a thing in the back.
If you just use that, she's like, no, I can't.
The tip is missing from the lightning cable.
Damn.
That means, they had to have known they did it.
They totally know they did it.
And they didn't say, they're like, oh, no.
And you know what?
Lightning is way harder to break than micro.
Micro's are the worst.
Yeah, micros break off like nobody's business.
They're terrible.
That is the worst connection we ever made for a cable in America.
in U.S. world history.
In world history, we've never made a worse connector.
It's the stupidest thing.
Let's make something that they can only go in one way, but it's so tiny that you really have to struggle to see which way it needs to go in.
I still have two things, I think, in my electronic life that still need that end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't wait until that stuff's just gone forever.
My Orange Theory Band is that, and my headphones that I use for cycling are that.
Yeah. Mine are a pair of headphones and, oh, outdoor waterproof speaker things I got at a Costco. And I love them. They're great.
Yeah. I hate charging them on that little micro piece of shit that's going to break if I breathe hard.
Exactly. Lame. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. My sister will be here with a mystery group activity, basically. I don't know what that means. You're all going to find out when I do because she didn't tell me.
Start doing lunges and stretches during the song here, folks,
because you're going to need all your, you're going to need to be warmed up for whatever this is.
Ooh, you have a song.
Let's play it.
What do you got?
I have a song.
This one is by Cecilia Castleman.
Really, really cool kind of indie pop singer.
On the 24th, she's going to release her self-title debut album via Glass Note Records,
produced by production legend, Don Was. Was Not Was. I mean, he's, the Don Was Was is produced a ton of stuff.
Cool.
And she's doing it. She recorded it in the Henson recording studios in Los Angeles.
Whoa. They got like Frank Osbreth on those microphones.
Exactly. Yeah. Hey-ho. Come on in.
I'll grab a microphone. I'll be sitting here at the mixer.
I love it.
Anyway, this is the song, It's All Right. Enjoy Cecilia Castleman.
I'm going to be able to be.
I'm going to be.
Um, and I'm, um,
You know, and I'm going to be able to be.
Um, um,
I don't need your money
I don't need your money
I don't need your time
so I bought a ticket
I bought a ticket to
And I don't know why
But it just feels right
You don't know me
Like I thought you do
But baby I don't mind
Because it's all right
it's all right
it's all right
oh honey
it's all right
let me go out on my own
I'll see you soon
maybe I don't know
but darling it's all right
so let the fast one
take her sweet time
Because she bought her own ticket
So she must be doing something right
And can you sleep at night
You don't know me
Like I thought you do
But baby I don't mind
Because it's all right, oh, honey, it's all right.
It's all right, oh, honey, it's all right.
Let me go out on my own.
I'll see you soon, maybe I don't know, but darling, it's all right.
Yeah, it's all right.
Because it's all right, oh honey, it's all right, oh honey, it's all right.
It's all right.
Oh, honey, it's all right.
Let me go out on my own.
I'll see you soon.
Maybe I don't know.
No, I don't.
But darling, it's all right.
Oh, yeah.
But darling, it's all right.
Gambling, booze and promiscuous androids.
Oh, well, up to two centuries of sleep, it's time for some fun.
For f's sake, amen, dude.
And tell me more about that song now that we're back.
That was Cecilia Castleman and her brand new song, It's All Right, coming from her upcoming self-titled debut release, which will be called, if you're doing the math, Cecilia Castleman.
Nice. Cecilia, you're breaking my heart.
You're shaking my confidence daily.
Every day. All right. What hell's windy? There she is. Okay. We're going to add my sister to this thing, a professional.
She's a psychologist slash therapist. She knows what's up.
Oh, hell no. You will stop now.
All right. You know what that means. It means Wendy's here. Hi, Wendy. How the heck are you?
I'm good. How are you guys? Good. You know, Wendy talked to me off a bit of a ledge last night. I'd like to share this brief story.
Okay. Yeah. So I've been very annoyed with a certain family member who is just constantly kind of toxic. And it's to the point that I just don't even want to be near him. Like, I don't want to be around them.
and you know Wendy did a good job yesterday of laying out some pros to my very obvious there is a big con about a get-together we've all got planned but all the pros around it she helped me see the light that the pros were were enough pros to rise slightly above the giant hairy con hanging below the pros so the Harry con the Harry con anyway so so now it's happening
Hey, Wendy, what's going on?
How are you?
You've brought us a bit of a mystery thing, a mystery bag today.
It was my understanding.
Yeah, I like to bring mystery bags.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I would, listen, you're going to be sick of hearing about No Better You for a while.
Okay, so everyone just buckled in.
All right.
Okay.
Thank you.
What I wanted to do today was actually just show you a little bit of what you get with any kind of therapy or coaching.
So let me just define the two things really quick.
So a therapist and, you know, a clinically trained, you know, person who does therapy is equipped to do a bunch of stuff.
A coach is not equipped to do.
And so there's a difference between the two.
But there is absolute value in having the, I call them the happy therapist.
They just get to do with the happy stuff and like make your life better.
Whereas a therapist often is looking at, you know, like trauma and things that affected you in the past.
and, you know, really digging into hard stuff you have to be qualified for.
They're the ones you need around when you're having suicidal thoughts and they, you know,
they know how to handle more complex stuff.
That's their training is much different.
They're, the qualifications that are required are longer and harder and lots of things, right?
So it's meant to be that thing.
Often what happens is therapists who get burned out over doing years and years of all the sad
stuff have turned to life coaching or health coaching or something because they're like,
oh, I can just help a functional person be more functional?
Like, that sounds pleasant.
So not to say that to everyone, but that is a big chunk of why I think the coaching
sphere has grown the way it has.
It's not as regulated.
They do not have, like, you know, your local or state agencies are not like following
up on licensure and some other things in that sphere.
And that's probably going to change with time because they have a lot of influence
on people's lives and should probably be monitored a little bit, right?
Anyway, but what's great is coaching really is often around like, what's a thing you want and let me help you get there?
Think about your little league coach or any coach you've ever had or trainer at a gym or a mentor at work who's just like, let me help guide you.
It's just nice to have like an outside perspective, right?
So at nobody or you, I have two coaches that are working for me who are going to help people with the stuff they're struggling with, right?
And so I just want to walk you guys through a little small coaching exercise.
So I'm going to coach the two of you.
Are you guys ready?
I'm ready.
Never felt more ready in my life.
Let me back this up with saying I have never felt really comfortable calling myself
a coach in any way.
Like I coached literally games.
I coached a whole basketball season for one of my kids.
The whole time I was like, I mean, I know how to play, but I don't really know how to coach.
And I had had to learn to get into that position.
And honestly, it's so.
fun, especially when little kids now. These are now 9th, 10th, 11th grade boys come running up
to me when they see me. I'm like, coach, oh my gosh, it's heartwarming, right? Okay. So my journey,
you don't care about. But that's, it's new for me to think I'm going to be telling anyone
how to live their life because that's not what you do as a therapist. You do not tell anyone
how to live your life. And coaching isn't that either, but it feels more that way when you're
playing basketball. But anyway, but actual life coaching is more like you bring your thing and I help
you see things that are in your way, and we work to move around them.
So we're going to do that live today.
Oh, Lord.
I'm going to have a little taste.
All right.
We'll see what we got.
So this is the question we're going to start with, and then I'm going to give me all sorts of ways
to make a change that you're interested in.
But I need you to start as honest as you feel comfortable in this vulnerable space.
All right.
Saying, but what is one thing either of you would.
And I'm going to do it with both of you, so both be thinking.
Either of you would want to change.
It could be change, improve, diminish, stop altogether.
It can be anything that you would like to do differently in your life.
And I want you to pick the thing, if you can, that if that changed in whatever form you needed to change, would make all the difference.
Oh, wow.
Right.
Like if I never once had to think about what was for dinner,
like, can you imagine how that would change?
That would make all the difference in the world or something like that, right?
Like really think of what would make a big difference.
Tell me if this then would, if I could shut off my brain, if I wake up in the middle of the night and have to go pee,
if I could shut off my brain and not think about the things I need to do the next day.
even if I have a full to-do list that's all written out and all that stuff.
I'd love this.
If I could not think about work and just go right back to sleep,
I feel like my life would be improved.
I'd get so much more sleep.
There are nights.
There are nights I stay up longer to pee so that I don't have to get up to pee because if I do,
I have this exact problem.
I hate that because our brains are just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
And it's like three in the morning.
When you were a kid and you had to get up and do that,
you'd go in there like a zombie, pee on half the seat,
go back, forget to flush, go back, go into your bed.
And it was like you never left your bed.
That doesn't exist for me or Brian.
No, not for me.
No, I'd love that.
Okay.
Should we have both of you do the exact same thing with that?
Let's do it.
All right.
Okay, so I first need to just note that neither of you read the email that you got sent
and clicked on the link at the bottom because the answer is in it.
Oh, shut up, really?
What email did I?
Totally.
What email did I get sent?
Yeah, what email?
Totally.
And Brian, maybe you're not, maybe you're not on the KBEU list.
I would think you were about.
I don't know if I am.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, we're signing you up right now.
Okay.
I hit unsubscribe.
Was that the link at the bottom?
Because I think that's one I.
Okay.
Well, you've unsubscribe then.
So only Scott gets the answer.
Okay.
But if you go to.
Oh, is it the one that says therapy 101 for sleep techniques to try tonight?
Yes.
Yeah.
I didn't get that.
Oh, my gosh, you're killing me.
Okay, all right.
So I'm not going to go right to the answers yet, even though all you have to do, people, is
Richard, give me your freaking email, and I will send you these magic tricks.
No, okay, but we're going to go through first what is already happening.
So this is important when you're sort of navigating something you want to change,
is to first start with what is happening without any effort on your part?
What is already automatic?
And, like, think of, you know, people are like, what's your morning ritual?
Well, guess what?
Every one of us has a morning ritual.
We are doing almost every day without thinking about it.
And it's often like lay in our beds and look at our phones for too long.
Get up and be late.
Or, you know, you're already doing something.
It's just maybe doesn't feel good because we humans are living.
And so I want you to tell me what you're already doing that is part of why both of you
are getting up in the night to pee and staying awake too long and being more fatigue the next day.
What is naturally already happening?
I drink water way too late in the day.
Habitually, it happens every day.
Happens every day.
And then I also, some nights, I give up so quickly on getting back to sleep.
I just grab the iPad, the AirPods, stick them in my ears, and watch a Simpsons episode or whatever I'm currently watching.
So you have two current rituals that are naturally a part of your life that are making the problem.
bad.
They're detrimental.
That's good.
Can I ask you a quick,
what time is this too late to drink time?
When is that?
Oh, I don't drink anything after 9 p.m.
But I'll,
but I probably will,
I'll have a glass of water next to me from about six until eight that I'll drink
and maybe even refill.
Okay.
All right.
So you're drinking past dinner time.
I'm drinking past dinner time.
Brian's got a big drink.
problem is what you're saying i get i do drinking okay all right how about you scott what is your so so brian
has the habit of rewarding his brain for being awake and then he also has the drink so lady has to pee in the
night what about you uh so i will sometimes stay up too late to avoid having to pee in the night because
i figure if i go to bed at like 1130 i have now peed right at 1130 there's no way to wake me up
because i'll be fine till morning so sometimes i do that um but even when it's it does for the pee thing
but it doesn't do anything to help me if something else wakes me up it could be anything
like if there's a siren within 400 miles of me I have a dog that goes if I have a dog I have a dog
that goes and that wakes me up right I'm surprised she's not doing it right the second to be
honest yeah after hearing you do that yeah so it really doesn't matter what wakes me up now
the difference the difference I can see here is that Brian has a go-to for when he gets up and he can't
go back to sleep I don't really have anything so what
I do is just toss and turn for two hours and be irritated that I can't sleep.
So I'm not even, I'm not even like soothing it with anything.
I'm not even like, well, let me pull up this book or let me grab this show or let me do
this thing or let me hear some music or any of those things.
I just kind of lay there going, go to sleep, dummy, go to sleep.
I count sheep basically a form of that, try to clear my head of all the stuff I got to do.
It just doesn't seem to work most of the time.
And then when it starts to just get close to working, it's like 6.45, almost seven. And I got to be up anyway. So I just get up and go. Like today was that way. It's just like, oh, let's just get up. It's so stupid. Okay. All right. So you're also doing some things that mean this perpetuates, right? You may not know yet. We'll get into what you're doing. Okay. So both of you are performing habits to both to try to manage this?
without solving it, correct?
Yeah.
And that's pretty common, right?
We'll be living our lives.
Something is like not going well.
And so we're doing certain things to try to fix it, but we don't usually find the root of it or find something that works.
And we just keep doing it and usually suffering.
Like in both of your cases, sleep deprivation.
So give me one more sentence from each of you about what is the cost of your current deal with sleeping?
It makes me sluggish.
Maybe a little cranky.
I'm talking now, Scott.
A little cranky.
Go ahead.
I'm good.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I was playing off.
I was playing off the little cranky.
No, no, I get it.
I get it.
Okay.
Probably isn't helping with weight because, you know, you tend to, if you don't sleep well,
you tend to overeat or compensate or something like that.
What else?
I think those are, yeah.
Those are probably the big things.
Just tired halfway through the day.
I'm falling asleep during whatever movie or TV show team and I decide to watch at 8 o'clock when I've got the glass of water next to me.
Right.
Okay.
So you are sleepy, maybe slightly less productive, eating for energy when you're fatigued, not because you're actually hungry.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
Gotcha.
How about you, Scott?
What's the cost of this?
Similar stuff with one additional one would be, I dread.
I get to, if it's, if it's a bad week of this sort of thing, I dread sleep sometimes because I'll just be like, I'm just going to wake up at three and that's going to suck. And I hate that feeling. And so I'll, you know, and then there's times like two nights ago, I had amazing sleep. Don't know why. Just did. And it was great. And I kept thinking all day yesterday. Can we do that again? Can we do that again? That would be great if we can do that again. So I get a little over, you know, obsessed by it. And then I get into bed and it's fine up until three. And then I'm up. And it's like, gosh, dang it. It didn't work.
this time. And so I'm in my head a lot about anticipating the next night and wondering whether
it'll be, if it's going to be a good one or not. And I feel like I have no control over it. That is
definitely a feeling I have all day. And that makes me cranky. That makes me distracted. It's a
stupid thing. It's just that, you know, as a kid, I just loved to sleep so much. And now I just
So you have the added anxiety of a bad experience effects.
Like, I don't want to do that again.
You start to actually, this happens off when when new parents have a little baby.
They can start to really dread the evening.
Yeah.
Like, please, no, don't make us go through this again.
And you can, you know, create not a phobia is a little strong of a word, but like almost a panic around night.
but just anxiety creeps in about the process of sleep.
That's pretty common as well.
Sure.
So the price is high, yo.
Would your wives, if I had your wives here, would they be like, please help them sleep?
Yeah, but also, you know, they have their, I can't speak for Tina, but I know Kim has her fair share of things that wake her up and that she's annoyed that they do.
And it's usually like, wait, did Nick renew his, renew the title on the car, not registration on the car.
Because we have the title.
The kids is always a big one.
Yeah.
And that'll keep her up all night, that kind of stuff.
Tina,
Tina unfortunately gets the, not the really, I mean, I don't want to use the word
scaries, but the Sunday scleries where it's like thinking about work the next day
and what needs to be done and not being able to get to sleep usually on Sunday nights.
She'll fall asleep long after I, long after I do.
On Sunday nights.
Okay.
On Sunday nights.
Interesting.
Okay.
So what you just proved, which is helpful, is that everybody has their own sleep problem.
you know the stats are not good
on how well all of us are sleeping
and you know new research on sleep
shows that we are actually not getting as much as we
the even number we say oh seven to nine hours
everyone's a little different and
and it turns out women need more sleep than men
and are definitely not getting it
and some other just stuff as we as we look at sleep
we're like oh okay
ideally for our health and our well-being
I think none of us are doing it.
So, A, you're not alone.
But notice something, Brian, you said earlier.
He said, I wrote down everything for the day.
Even if I write down everything in the day, I still get stressed out.
I've got next to me right here, my to-do list.
Glad it's washed out so people can't screen grab that and see the stupid crap I have to do.
Shower.
Yeah, right.
I need everything.
Breathe.
Left foot, right foot, left foot.
But yeah, even having that and knowing, oh, yeah, all I have to do to know what I need to do
today is look at this piece of paper next to my desk and I'll do it.
But it doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter one bit.
Okay.
Well, it is actually part of the new ritual I'm going to help you guys establish today.
Okay.
So it's important to understand the why you want to change this.
And that's why you talk about the cost, right?
So what, let's put it now in a positive sense.
what is your life going to look like if you're sleeping pretty solidly every night and
you can kind of count on good sleep? What will be the benefit or difference in your life?
Oh my gosh. I mean, it feels like we're going to have more productivity. We're going to have
clearer heads all day. We're going to have energy when we're supposed to have it. We don't have
to augment that with a bunch of caffeine or less so anyway. I don't need to tell Tina.
Hey, for the next episode, can I watch the recap? Because I missed everything that happened during this
last episode.
Yeah.
Your marriages will improve.
I need to watch the previously on.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, Scott, take the day you slept well just recently.
Yeah.
What was your next day like?
My next day was great, except for that sinking feeling that I'm not going to be able to
replicate that.
That was the only thing that bugged me all day.
But I had a really productive day.
I got a ton of stuff done.
It just felt good.
I can tell you what I think I did to make it happen more.
and maybe this is where you're leading us but i decided to put out gym clothes the night before
have my shoes not in the not left foot somewhere in this room and then the closet for whatever
reason that the right one like all that stuff added one place my watch was charged um my my
my earbuds were charged like stuff i want to take to the gym and something about knowing that
i had done all the basic simple but basic preparation
that night before does help me a lot when I do that. And that's that's a lot of things. Like part of the
reason I try to prep TMS, all the stuff I have to do for TMS. I try to do the night before.
Sometimes there's exceptions, but most of the time it's that. And it's for that reason. I feel like
I can tackle this show better. And I've learned over time that that's the best way for me to do it.
There's always last minute stuff in the morning and stuff or whatever. But it's this feeling of like,
I didn't leave that hanging. So if there's a problem in the morning,
morning or the internet's weird. I'll have time to fix those things because that's already done.
So for me, it's like a lifelong thing. That's like high school or any other time where I was
stressed about homework. If I did the homework, I didn't stress.
Yeah. So tell me this though. Is this a habit now? Is the TMS? The TMS thing is that's definitely
a habit for sure. Okay. You know one needs to tell you. You don't need to set an alarm. Nothing.
No, I just do it. Even if I know I'm going to be gone all evening somewhere, I will do it earlier and get
it done because I don't want to, I don't want to be bleary eyed, you know, morning guy doing
and you've had experience with both. You both experienced the bleary eye and then you have
experienced just how much better it is. Yeah. And then somehow made that an automatic habit.
Yeah. So that now it's just your life. And that's, that's always my goal with people and working on
things like this is to go from using willpower, which we have a limited amount of, um, to start the
process and then build it quickly towards that it's just automatic. And it's because the
benefits will just reinforce it. Like you need it. But you got to do some things. And Scott,
you did one of the tricks, which is environmental design, right, which is design your
environment so that it's optimal. So for example, for sleep, people really need dark rooms
and colder temperatures. And if they don't have those things, they need to try those things
to see what I'm talking about. And obviously reducing noise. So whatever you need to do to make sure
those things happen. Those are just biological necessities because that's optimal for a human
to not worry about getting eaten by a tiger in the night. We need to have a certain environment.
So in your case, the thing that's coming in the morning, you can almost rest. Like if Brian's
to-do list was downloaded the night before and on his desk, he doesn't have to maybe think about it
in the night if it's already done. So that environmental design could be really powerful. So that's
one thing. And then you do it enough to benefit yourself. So it may start with you need
alarms going off on your phone, or you need your partner to remind you, you know, stuff like that.
But let's take the actual. So everyone who has it, open up your four techniques for better
sleep tonight. Because now what I want us to focus on is you both described. So yes, we can we can make
your pre-bed routine better. So don't stay up so late. Don't drink water. I mean,
eight if you're going to bed at let's say 10 you definitely should be stopping drinking water by
six or seven if you're over a certain age if you are younger feel free to have a huge glass of water
right before bed yeah yeah youngsters got it easy with your drinking water until eight or nine
your clatters don't know what is happening right so so that would be something brian where you
just bump in an hour earlier and see what happens right um but let's take the moodle of the night
waking up. So that's really what these four techniques are about that I am a huge fan of and have
found that I have since implementing them in my life, I never, ever stay awake more than
maybe five minutes if I wake up in the night. Wow. Okay. All right. And then because my brain has
nothing interesting ever to do in the night, I often just sleep through the night. Now, let's be
clear, there are biological, medical, other reasons people maybe will struggle with this for
different reasons, medications, etc. So this works for the average Joe who does not, is not taking a
wake up in the night medication. Okay. Sure. Okay. So let's start with the first one. And your guys
are going to do it with me. Are you on camera? I can't. I obviously. Yeah. You can see the both
the PDF and us occasionally. Okay. Okay. So the number one thing is the ear massage. I love this
with my whole heart. It's so weird, but it 100% works. So this is one description you can use
your thumb and your index finger, but before you do it, I want you both to just sense your bodies
right now, your fatigue level, just your relaxation level, just kind of notice yourself real quick,
okay? And then you're going to do this with me. I like to do it where I just stick my, one,
my pointer finger right in that little rim at the bottom, like if you were going to yank down on the
inside of your ear. And you just, like a rainbow, just go back and forth and just rub it back and
forth. Well, you can do this whole massage, the outer edge of your ear and do circular. You can do,
you know, if you want to follow the description, you can too, but you're just going to keep breathing.
And I want you to just rub that ear for a minute. This is a great shot of Brian and I look like
monkeys in a zoo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you guys look great. Can I want ice worms here? Because his
ears are super soft.
Nope. It has to be yours. Okay. So do this.
that for a minute and now I want you to switch
and do the other side. All right.
Okay. You're
talking to two people who have big old ear cans
on there. I know. I know. I apologize.
Sorry. But just just notice
your body as you're doing it.
It is
relaxing. Like it's
surprisingly
Is that why people
have a really hard time getting
their anxiety in check in public? You see
them yanking on their ears and
constantly. Is that a thing?
I don't know if they're doing it on purpose, but it would be helpful if they did it the right way because it does work.
So what you're doing, like when I do this, I could do it in the middle of the day and then I'm like, time for a nap.
Or if I do this at night, like if I wake up because someone's made a noise and I just start to rub both ears, my body's like, oh yeah, I guess we're going to go to sleep again.
Like it's fast.
Now, notice this is like a minute or two to just calm me.
What it is is that you have your vagal nerve branches out from the base of your skull or the back of your head.
And one of the extensions of that nerve, so it's that if you think about the huge nerves that come down into your gut and, you know, all of that, it's a lot of emotion regulation and relaxation.
It gets you into your parasympathetic nervous system when that is activated.
So what you're doing is you're rubbing the edge of basically where they extend to.
They come out to your ear.
So by massaging and relaxing and moving, you know, this part of your ear and breathing deeply,
you're basically telling your body like, we're safe now.
It's interesting.
It does chill me out.
It chills me out.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's pretty great.
I like it.
Okay.
So that's number one.
And so this is the hardest part of the, the hardest part of this is when you wake up in
the night to remember to do it because you're used to your brain getting going, right?
You're saying it would be bad if me if I turned on my.
iPad pulled out this PDF to read it.
Okay, okay.
No, honestly, it's soothing, dark colors.
It'll help you go back to sleep.
Anyway, so that's number one.
The second one, and I love this one, also so much.
So, Scott, it's like the counting sheep concept, but let me describe it a little better.
So cognitive scattering is where you essentially give your brain nothing to hook onto that's a story.
So we love stories, and humans wake up for stories.
stories. Think of being super tired and then sitting down to watch TV. What happens?
You wake up. You're wide awake now, right? And so, Brian, that's what you're doing.
Yeah. That's what you're doing. You're basically and giving it dopamine. So your brain's like,
yeah, baby, it's three. Let's get up. And so what it will do is wake you up the next night
to do the same thing. And so it's the bad habit of it ultimately is just the brain now is trained
to wake up in the night.
So what we want to do is don't even let two nights go by if you can help it.
I know you guys have had many nights.
But if you have one crappy night of sleep, really do all the things the next night.
So your brain is not learning to like, oh, well, what we do is we get up at, you know,
at twilight every night or whatever.
Okay.
So cognitive scattering is where, and my favorite, you can do lots of things.
You can name a bunch of specific but random items and, you know, just name them.
until you pass out.
And really you will.
But my favorite version is to come up with words based on random letters.
So I will pick the word, boo, B-O-O, and I will say B.
And then in my head, I just list every word I can think of that starts with a letter B.
And I'm always self-surprised every time, like, I know so many words and start with
it's like benevolent balmore you know that's random right and your brain will shoot out
random b-letter words and then when you kind of run out move to the letter oh octagon octopus
octogenarian and you then you go to oh and then maybe you find a longer word or you could just go
a bcd it doesn't matter because the point is the random switching random random random and what your
brain will do and this is my favorite part is it's not that you drift off I thought you would
be like, oh, and now I'm getting sleepy.
Usually what happens, it's like a light switch.
Your brain will literally be like, oh, this is the most boring story ever.
And then just switch off.
So you can do it with, if it's not working, you can get more specific like, you know,
only green vegetables or only letters that would win you in and scrabble.
You know, whatever.
You just keep getting it more and more narrow.
Okay.
So those two right there, I've never had to do, well, they just work every time.
I don't even have to combine them.
It just happened.
They're great.
Okay.
The third one is, again, another nervous system reset, and you do it by breathing, right?
And so I've taught you guys at various times to breathe.
And my favorite one is number two on the list, which is breathe in twice through your nose really deeply and then really slowly out of your mouth.
You gave me that one at TMS Vegas last year.
And when KT data.
and Hammond were still working on videos as TMS Vegas Live was starting.
I did this breathing thing and I was like, eh, whatever, it'll happen.
It's kind of work.
Yeah, it's weird.
It does work.
It's really weird how this works.
And Wendy, same thing.
She taught me this years ago.
This is a long time ago, outside of the show even.
And I still use it.
And I've been using it while I sleep.
It's hard at 3 a.m.
Let me put it this way.
You know how little kids, they get like night terrors around that.
You know, that's when they wake up.
freak out. I have those kinds of feelings when I wake up in the night. I've never been prone to
the terrors like screaming into space or whatever, all that. But I've always felt like there's a
section of the middle of the night that is no good for nobody and everything feels bad.
And when I wake up and I feel that like weird existential dread feeling that I can't even
pinpoint where it's coming from. And this is just about the only way those kind of nights feel
better is when I do this technique. Yes. Yes. And maybe you've associated like the scariest and that
really like panicky feeling to I have to calm down. So maybe you're like, oh yeah, I should breathe
better, right? Because you've learned the skill. You've practiced it. So keep doing that. But I want you to
try it when you wake up and you're just like, oh, crap, I want to be asleep. And what I have found is when I do
this, the first breath, the first time I am yawning immediately, immediately. And part of that is
how we breathe in the night. You can look at your respiration rates if you do like a sleep tracker
and you can see how little, or how deep or not you are breathing. And sometimes you're not
breathing deep enough. And so then you do this and your body is like, please give me all this oxygen,
right? And so that's what a yawn is. We don't breathe deeply when we're sleepy. And so it needs
the oxygen. That's why we yawn to go to bed. We're actually just trying to get more oxygen.
So it is a very powerful one. Air rub while doing this breathing. I'm telling you, you don't stand
a chance. You do not stand a chance. Okay. And then the final one is the one most people know about
the Army Navy one where they essentially learned how to, I do mine a little differently. The basic one
is to just take a breath and close your eyes and relax each part of your body. I do it by tensing
everything. Yep. That's the way I'll be too. I have to too. It's hard for me to pinpoint it if
I don't. I don't know what I'm doing if I don't. Yeah. Yeah, starting at your feet, you tense your
your toes and then you tense the middle of your feet, then your ankles and then your calves and then
your knees. It's also a great way to know if something's tensed or not by trying to tense it.
And then when you realize, oh, I'm already tense there. You can't tense it further. Yeah. Yeah. Especially
your face or your jaw or your forehead or those, those are, it's probably the most effective parts. And I
I always think, I probably look insane.
I'm like, you know, all tense and tidying up, right?
All right.
So those are four techniques.
Look how handy, everyone.
Sign up for my emails.
Yeah, it's a nice PDF, too, by the way.
This is a really, I know.
I know.
Jeez.
Tell Adam.
Good job.
I'm going to try to do the other ones, and we'll see how they go.
So everyone, please be patient.
No, but it is, and here's the kicker.
When you created your early, I mean, TMS has been going on for 12 years.
You have created an automatic habit on how to handle the night before and the morning of for TMS.
It is in your bones at this point.
It's muscle memory.
You don't even have to try.
And we want some of these tricks to be the thing that just happens when you wake up in the night.
Because here's the thing.
It is a virtuous and a vicious cycle.
The virtuous cycle is you sleep one night through the night and then the next night you get
woken up and you figure out how to soothe yourself pretty quickly.
this is babies, by the way.
We're all still babies trying to learn how to soothe ourselves in the night.
And so you get better at this.
Pretty soon there's no need to wake up.
But if you wake up because you have to go the bathroom,
which sometimes happens or there's a noise,
you have a way to get back to sleep.
And then it just becomes second nature that you,
I think of it like this,
that your sleep means so much
that you're willing to create some habits around it
to have that benefit.
but unlike maybe, you know, a thing that takes willpower all the time, this can happen with
habit.
So the night before, screens need to go off before, you know, give yourself an hour, half hour
minimum of no screens.
That's hard, man.
How might you keep up with things if I'm not watching my iPad right up until sleeping time?
Read a book.
I do need to catch up with some books.
Read a book.
Amy's clapping at me right now.
Yes, read a book. Read a freaking book. And books will train you to sleep to that trigger, right? If you read and you get sleepy and right before you go to conk out, you turn all the lights off. And one of the things that's helped my sleep probably more than anything in the world is to track it. So I wear a sleep tracking watch and I wake up in the morning and I can see that I slept seven hours straight and I can see how much deep sleep I got. And this is so stupid, but it's real, is that if I feel really tired when I wake up,
up, I look at my data and I'm like, well, I got enough sleep show I feel better. And I do.
I automatically think, well, I got plenty. I'll be fine.
Okay. It's a little placebo, but it's great.
But let me ask you, okay, that's an interesting point, because I'm doing a similar thing,
tracking my sleep. And my sleep tracking is saying that I'm getting seven hours and I'm doing good.
So I'm actually having pretty good nights, even on the nights where I don't think they're that
great. Part of it is because when I do wake up, I got out of a dream that was weird or I'm like,
well, that must have been three hours of tonight, that horrible dream.
There's no way I slept well with that.
But in truth, I did.
Yes.
That's a weird dichotomy, right?
It is.
I hate that.
Which is why I like, because our perception sometimes is just whatever the feeling is at that moment.
So if you woke up slightly at the wrong type of your sleep cycle, you're going to feel groggy and crappy.
That isn't related to the sleep you got all night.
That's related to when you woke up.
Right.
And so the data then tells me, look, you did pretty good.
and like you were saying
with witching hours
and the middle of the night
we are terrible with time
we have a hard ability
to sense what's happening
that's why everyone thinks
feels worse at night
or bigger at night
or more stressful at night
there it's it's a
it's the twilight zone
yeah it's whackadoo
and so our perception
our guesses about our sleep
are going to be less accurate
I do find that like
I do I can tell the rest of the day
like oh I did get seven hours of sleep
sleep, I could tell. But the nights where it's crappy and I have this wakadoo score, I'm like,
there's a reason I'm mad. Like I have like, it's almost validation or something, right? And then I know,
take a nap. Don't go eat 85 pounds of candies to stay awake or, you know, drink a ton of caffeine.
Go take a nap. Okay. So I want to throw in one last thing for you guys to do with any goal.
So as people are listening, maybe you're in the sleep issue as well. Maybe it's something else.
else, um, but there's a couple things we know from trying to achieve something that's new
and different and hard is that we have a huge increase in our ability to do something if we've
written it down.
Like you've heard this your whole life, write it down, right?
Yeah.
But when, when you write a goal down or like say you just wrote down, you know, clean up my
sleep hygiene and you wrote it down daily, so the daily part is kind of the magic here,
there is a 42% increase in achieving it,
which is crazy to just have written something down improves your ability to do it.
And it's just because you're committing to it, it's on your to-do list,
it feels like it's valuable and an important part of that.
And then another one, and this is maybe weird with sleep,
but I don't know, you and Brian could text each other.
Having someone you're accountable to as you're trying to do this new thing,
you are seven and a half times more likely to achieve whatever goal it is if there is someone
hearing about it cheering you on so you can text each other every morning how did you sleep
and you give each other your score or whatever right um brian how did you pee in the night no
yay yeah exactly so cheering each other after that yeah right um yeah and one of the things like
with no better you i'm i'm really gonna focus on and start creating some other things around
is just the social parts of life.
I don't know how much you guys pay attention to the loneliness epidemic,
but just how difficult life is without the social stuff
that used to be built in and sort of the impact it's having on our health
and our well-being and our emotional lives.
And so, you know, if you have somebody who's willing to just receive a text from you
on a daily basis, you'll be surprised.
It's not even just, oh, I'm going to achieve my goal.
It's also staying connected and having more going on socially than maybe you currently do.
If I could give everyone a New Year's resolution, it would be to be more social this year.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that would help.
So there's somebody I talked to almost exclusively via text that I talk to just about every day.
Right now is a bad time because they are surrounded by fires in L.A.
And we don't know what's going to happen to them.
But they are somebody, so it's not the most fun text at the moment.
but normally it's like once a day she's just hey man how's it going do you see this yeah cool
it's awesome you know whatever it's just a little back and forth and he he is just as regular with it
as i am and it's one of my favorite things because it's just this quiet non-public i guess it's
public now i'm not saying names but it's this quiet public interaction that i get to or non-public
interaction i get to have that is just purely about what your how was your son's week at his new
school oh he's doing good or he'll ask and say
Hey, I heard Tay's little ones were a little ill.
How are they feeling?
You know, like little things like that.
It's one of my most valued channels of communication with somebody.
And I don't, and it's not a thing for content.
It's not a thing for any of that stuff.
It's just like pure human to human interaction made possible by a very cool modern technology.
But nonetheless, it gets down to that basic thing of checking in.
you know, person to person, human to human.
It's a very, it's my most biological back and forth that I think I have with people outside
of my, you know, immediate family or whatever.
Yeah.
And that is an, we need a whole thing.
I was going to call it a session.
We need a whole session on this to talk about.
In fact, I would love if someone could send an email about sort of social connection issues
because I have a lot to say about how we can improve it and what needs to happen.
But, Scott, you're hitting on something that is crucial to our survival as a species and our just sense of well-being.
And we know from, see, I'm already getting into the next time.
But really, like, we know the keys to longevity and happiness include daily real connection.
And I think that has become so difficult.
I think Facebook is the complete, like, what is the word I'm thinking of, like the false front for?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is, it has become the antithesis, but it was the illusion that that's what this is that makes it so damaging to me, is that it's the illusion of connection.
And I get to see your family vacation so I know what's up with you and I can still feel connected to you is that's not benefiting your brain.
What that's doing is making you feel crappy.
And so, yeah, we can talk about ways to increase that.
So today we're going to, today is sleep.
Next time, let's talk social.
I would love someone to share some thoughts on.
maybe what specifically is their struggle.
I could do the same concept with something they bring as well as let's walk through
the things that they can do differently because it...
Did you already send me an email about the social thing that I need to search?
Keep your eye out, Brian.
I will send you a private PDF on this.
Perfect.
It's not written yet.
Our resident science correspondent, Bobby, says the reason those trackers are probably reporting
okay nights is that they're not very good at tracking.
There's something to that.
Yeah.
There's something to do that.
And, and I know that and I don't care.
Yeah.
What I mean is, what I mean is everybody's going to have something that works for them.
For me, there's just something about like giving me something to look at and, you know, it just, it helps.
It's the writing it down version.
Yeah, 100%.
And for someone else, it's going to drive them crazy and the watch is going to bug them.
Right.
Yeah, I can't sleep with my watch on.
And apparently, um, uh, future daughter in La C, she.
her Apple Watch
burned her wrist the other night
like she actually has a burn on
her wrist from the Apple Watch so
she's taking that back and getting a replacement
I think so that sounds like a bulging
a bulging lithium battery possible
problem yeah that's horrifying
way to ruin my idea
um sorry
no and everyone's different
someone else might be like I have a
you know whatever their thing is that tricks them
and they know it, do it.
I'm a fan of those things.
If it's working, here we go.
Okay, so you two, I'm going to ask next week if you have tried at least one of these
techniques every night.
I'm doing this air business tonight.
Totally.
I am too.
You're going to love it.
You can't see my screen, but I printed it out.
I got the sheet here of like the four techniques.
Nice.
Look at all the ink you used on page one.
That's amazing.
Whatever.
Whatever.
We're all going to die.
Yeah, maybe a suggestion for the next one of these, just a blue outline instead of a full-on solid.
100%.
That'll be light peach.
I'm all out of cyan or whatever.
Magenta.
My gosh, you know, Eeyore Johnson there.
Look at all the ink you.
Oh, and let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
Spending as much time as I have around computers and printers, one of my biggest, dumbest anxieties is how much ink is left in one of those damn things.
I hate it.
I'm doing that.
I'm doing that HP instant ink.
instant in anything and as little as I print, I am taking them for a ride.
Yeah, if you don't print a lot, that thing's actually a pretty good deal.
It's really good.
Yeah, we do it with my laser.
We used to sell Brian a lot more of these replacement cartridges and we haven't needed to.
What is it?
It's like $3.50 a month or something.
It's cheap.
Yeah, yeah.
$3.
I'm going to go now.
Bye.
Hey, Wendy.
Oh, sorry, are we keeping you?
Have a fantastic week.
I hope that when we come together again, we'll have also other cool things to
talk about in the meantime people check out no better you.com that's k-n-o-w better and then the letter
you dot com go check it out sign up for future stuff and wendy we'll talk to you soon
all right that's the end of this show final episode ever no not just kidding we have more
just the just the final non-patriot exclusive that's right that's right tomorrow
nine a m mountain time you'll get a patreon exclusive tm
Friday. I will not have food poisoning
tomorrow. We will have a normal show. Don't eat any
bad chicken today, Scott. No bad chicken.
I'm not going to Mike's for a long time.
Sorry, Mike. That's
Scott's Way. I'm doing it Scott's Way now.
There you go, Scott's Way. Anyway, there's other
stuff coming up. We've got to Coverville today, I assume.
What's going on there? Yeah, Coverville
celebrating the birthday of Michael
Steep, lead singer of
REM and
skinny
moby-looking dude.
He turns, how old is the
turn this week seven no 65 whoa really 65 damn yeah michael steppe 65 still not eating any
meat um uh so covers some really cool covers of r em you're not getting this episode usually you like
hear one episode or one song by um either scary pockets postmodern jukebox stories or pomplamuse
no not in this case and you've got some biggies in here like um rosy thomas and sufion stevens um
Love Cannon for some bluegrass,
Rogue Wave, and even Al Green.
Yeah, Al Green, take me to the river and all that actually does a cover of an REM song.
So they hear that on the show as well.
That'll be at noon, noon-ish.
I think I think they should be able to make noon today at Twitch.tv slash Coverville.
Very nice.
If you hate music, all right, and you're into video games,
you'll have an alternative over on the YouTube channel for Core today
that'll be at noon normal Thursday core come join us
it's like our first real one of the year not that last year last week's wasn't
but last week was all about game of the year stuff yeah yeah so we'll be back to
the normal format today do check us out that's noon mountain time as well
at frogpants dot TV TMS Friday like I mentioned play retro this weekend as well
we're doing um uh freaking the name just through went right past me after burner thank you
Scott. Thank you, Brain.
Yeah, we're going to be talking all about the Sega classic and its impact on the industry.
So check that out on Play Retro. FilmSack this weekend will be Unforgiven.
The fourth movie in the series. Un3 given was pretty good.
Un2 given was okay. But Unforgiven is the best the series.
And they stopped there, thank goodness, because un5 given or unsept given.
What would you call it?
It would be unfive given if we're doing the one, two, three, four.
Yeah, that's true. You wouldn't want to go unsex given.
quatra given unquatra given yeah we don't want that uh anyway that's uh this weekend so look forward to that and then uh there's got new stuff up on the youtube channel all the time go check it all out frogpans dot com is your place to go quick reminder uh speaking of which our film festival it continues forward if you have one to submit or are planning to you want to read the rules find the submission form all that stuff it's over at frogpans dot com slash film fest look for uh sometime this weekend our prize package going up in detail so you know what you're what you're in for
I appreciate those who have already submitted them because they're just anticipating a good prize package.
And that's good. Because that is what you're getting.
It won't be a pack of gum and, you know, three butt hairs.
It'll be something good.
Wow. Okay.
All right. So look forward to that.
That's it. Brian, let's play a song and get out of here.
Okay. Sounds good to me.
This one is going out to, let me make sure it is the, yes, it is the right one.
This one's going out to Amy, Redfraggle, who's not here, but she will, she and Chuck will be listening to this episode later.
today. Chuck's in there, right? She says,
I think I see Chuck's here, yes.
Oh, yeah, there is. He's meeting with a new boss or something.
Amy says, okay, since you mentioned Jukebox the Ghost, I figured I'd request some.
This Saturday, January 11th, would have been my late sister's birthday. So let's hear something fun by Jukebox the Ghost.
Anything will do, signed Amy Redfraggle.
Nice.
Man, it's a sad anniversary, obviously, every year, and our hearts go out to you and we're thinking about you this weekend, Amy.
And we'll be thinking about this song by Jukebox the Ghost.
Now, in 2012, they released a single covering Donna Lewis's,
I love you always forever.
D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D.
And it's okay.
It's all right.
The B side of that single is this one right here.
It is New Order's Temptation, covered right now by Jukebox, The Ghost.
We're going to be able to be.
Heaven, a gatewayway, a hope, a gateway, a hope.
From inside it's no joke
And no it hurts me
To treat you this way
betrayed by words
I never heard
Too hard to say
Up, down, turn around
Please don't let me in the ground
Tonight I think I'll walk alone
I'll find my soul as I go
Up, down, turn around, please don't let me in the ground
Tonight I think I'll walk alone, I'll find my soul as I go home
Each way I turn, I know that I'll always try
To break the circle that's been placed around me
Oh, time to time I find that I've lost of me
Oh, that will turn to myself, I do me
to please
Oh
Up down turn around
Please don't let me hit the ground
Tonight I think I'll walk alone
I'll find my soul as I go home
Up down turn around
Please don't let me hit the ground
Tonight I think I'll walk alone
I'll find my soul as I go home
Oh, you've got green eyes. Oh, you've got blue eyes. Oh, you've got gray eyes.
Oh, you've got green eyes. Oh, you've got green eyes. Oh, you've got blue eyes. Oh, you've got gray eyes.
Oh, you've got blue eyes.
Oh, you've got gray eyes.
Oh, you've got green eyes.
Oh, you've got blue eyes.
Oh, you've got gray eyes.
Puffs from above in the people down below.
People in this world know we've got no place to go.
Thoughts above in the people up low
People in this world know we've got no place to go
And I've never met anyone quite like you before
No, I've never met anyone quite like you before
Uptown, turn around, please don't let me in the ground
Tonight I think I'll walk alone
I'll fight my soul as I go home
Up down, turn around
Please don't let me hit the ground
Tonight I think I'll walk alone
I'll fight my soul as I go home
You know what I'm going to be able to show.
Up, down, turn around, please don't let me in the ground.
Tonight I think I'll walk alone, I'll fight my soul as I go home.
Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground.
Tonight I think I'll walk alone, I'll fight my soul as I go home.
Those pants are made for frogging.
You know what I mean?
I actually don't.
Frogpants.com.
You're going to have to provide the penis.
I can't help you with that.