The Morning Stream - TMS 2766: New Jersey Michael's

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Build a Bear and the Temple of Doom. A Shelf Where Less Things Happen. Turns out it was his friend in the chipper. Suck My Soup. Wallow-Free Content. Fisting The Bear. Scott's Sad Skull. Skewompus. Th...e Testicle Fell Off. A Dead Body, Not a Rancid Cheeto. Boba fett? Give it to me Michael's Preference. Ayahuasca is my middle name. The thickest of liquids. Communicable Board Games with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Unlike TikTok, we don't get banned and come back in less than 12 hours. No, we're here for the long haul. So long that we need your help at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, build a bear and the Temple of Doom. A shelf where less things happen. Turned out it was his friend in the chipper. Suck my soup. Wallow free content.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Fisting the bear. Scott's sad skull. Skiwampus. The testicle fell off. A dead body, not a rancid chito. Boba Fett. Give it to me Michael's preference. Ayahuasca is my middle name.
Starting point is 00:00:32 The thickest of liquids. Communical board games with Dan and more on this episode of the morning stream. When I don't get sore, Skipper, but you know what it means to run into the tropical rainy season when you're trying to make an outdoor picture. Months wasted, money gone, and nothing to show for it. Still, you always bring back a picture. I nailed that alien. The morning stream. The morning stream. Am I still here?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Hello. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Tuesday, January 21st, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson, and that is Brian a bit too, Brian. Good morning. Hello. Hello. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's so good to be back. I think, you know, we were talking about this, well, I think we were talking about it in Discord separately, but we weren't here yesterday, and it's probably good, because neither of us would have been in a really great ha-ha mood, even though we could have used all the camaraderie community, it wouldn't have been the brand and Scott you wanted. No. So that's what I was thinking, too. and then most of the
Starting point is 00:01:57 this is all I'm going to say about it today most of the shitty stuff happened later and that means that today is kind of the day where we're ruminating on the shitty stuff and so now I'm worried that the opposite is happening we should have done yesterday and then take it today off
Starting point is 00:02:16 which would have been weird because it's not a holiday so why would we do that so we didn't know no I do you know what it's a good opportunity to say something real quick here um yeah without any without any specifics uh as opposed as opposed to uh where things were at in 2015 2015 2016 and the show was on uh this time i'm going to endeavor on everything i make um and do and participate in and co-host with and all that to leave all of that shit to the side and the reason I'm doing that is not because we're hiding from it, ignoring it,
Starting point is 00:02:57 head in the sand, or any of that. It's because I think, based on the feedback that I was getting pretty full throttle yesterday, that people come to this show in particular, but really the network in general. And for that matter, all our extended stuff, DT&S, Coverville, shows everybody else is busy doing, this kind of extended family of shows, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You come to it for, escape not to wallow in more of it. So we will not be offering wallow services here. We will be offering escape services here at the Frog Pants Network. So if you'd like to escape, here you go. This is the place to do it. If you'd like to come wallow in the morass of the daily goings on of certain political machinations, I don't want to do that again. I can't do it again. We can't do it. And I will totally, I will endeavor also to, to keep that impersonation that I got so used to doing on the back burner for now until, who knows, until everybody feels like they're in a place where they're okay.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah, because it was, I got to say, you had really nailed this. Oh, my God, it was getting so good. And I feel like I can say any dumb thing in that voice, but I don't want to hear that voice right no coming out of me either yeah no i get it i get it and you were really getting good at it but i think you know just some quiet time in front of a mirror when no one's around you know whatever keeping it sharp keeping it ready you want it i'm still on cameo you know you know you want to hear that voice head on over to uh cameo and i'll do a i'll do a whole video just for you and not for anybody else there you go there's nothing with that horrendous uh just me saying dumb things in that
Starting point is 00:04:48 voice. There you have it. Um, I got a question about. Yes. Okay. I am open to anybody's lifestyle. If I, if they just tell me, if I understand it, it's much easier for me to go, oh, okay, I get it. So if you say to me, Scott, I'm really into my little pony. You're, I'm a brony or whatever back in the day. And I would go, my initial reaction back then was, I don't know what that is. Can you explain it? And then once explained to me, Okay, fine. It's your fandom. It's your thing. It may not be my thing, but it's fine. I'm not here to judge your thing. You be, you have what you want. And so I have a question about one that I, I just need to know if this is a thing or not. So I know how to react to it moving forward. Okay. Sure. I went to build a bear on Saturday. Yes. I think it was Saturday. What did you get? I didn't go for me. Oh, okay. I went for, boy, they have a lot of Marvel stuff there, though. I almost. They do. I know. It's so tempting. Like for a, like for a lot. while they were doing and maybe they still do
Starting point is 00:05:50 but I walked by one and it's like oh since when did this become the Pokemon store it's like 38 different Pokemon bear versions but now I've been hearing about the Captain Amara bear with a little you know the mask they got I mean it's actually kind of crazy
Starting point is 00:06:06 how much they have for like IPs. They should really combine their forces and make Lego bears and then charge 800 million dollars for it yeah right combine the the Disney store, the Lego store, and build a bear workshop, and just become the most expensive store in the mall. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Over, Macy's, Zales, Sacks Fifth Avenue. Yeah, take that Prada or all these other fancy stores. We got you beat. Anyway, so I'm in there, and it's fine. We're there with Van. It's his birthday. That's why we went. And he wanted to get this dragon.
Starting point is 00:06:40 They have bears, but they also have a dragon there that you can stuff. And he's really into dragons and dinosaurs and stuff. So we're like, sweet, that's what you want. right he picks it out you also can get a second bear for for the amount of money that is the age of the kid that's their policy oh so you just to pay full price for the one bear but then you can get a second bear for in his case six bucks his birthday he's going to be six or he will be six in about a week so uh so we do this we go through there and there's a huge line like there always is and people doing the stuffing and whatever oh one other side note this lady really impressed
Starting point is 00:07:15 me there's a lady doing the stuffing she's at the stuffing station where they're get the big roller thing and all the stuff. Yeah, I love that thing, yeah. That thing's awesome. It has a vacuum intake on the side, so you take clumps of this stuff and just it just sucks it in. It's awesome. It's like one of those tree, tree grinders or whatever they're called, wood chipper.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Wood chipper. To go back, I had to go back to Fargo for that one. Well, funny enough, I actually watched Fargo this weekend, so it's funny you brought that up. It was great. It was his friend back there in the chipper then, even though that's not how the line goes. Turns out, turns out it was. Yeah, it was definitely Bushemi.
Starting point is 00:07:47 But anyway, so we're in there, and this lady has no fingers. I don't know what happened to her. I don't know if it was like a birth defect or perhaps an accident in her life or something, but she had just basically fists with little nubs. And that was it. Gosh, if you could picture this happened with the stuffing machine. I mean, my first thought was like, oh, shit, did it happen at the builder bear? I hope not.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I didn't ask, obviously, because I didn't want to intrude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she was kicking ass, dude. She was stuffing bears like a wild. wild person the people with perfectly functional hands were way behind her and they were they had like four of these ladies out doing it and she's the only one that was like really ripping through these bears still super sweet with the kids doing all the stuff you're supposed to do you're supposed to take the little heart put it up to your forehead and then stick it in there in some kind of weird ritual they do
Starting point is 00:08:35 there anyway wish or something and yeah yeah i mean i had this problem later where van goes i want to take the heart out and i said i said why and he goes i just want to hold it i said i don't think you can take the heart out, bud, and he goes, why? And I said, well, if you take the heart out, and then I almost said, the bear dies. And then I stopped and went, I can't tell him a bear dies. This is, he's only six. So I didn't do that. No, what you say is like, but that heart is the essence of your bear. And without that heart, your, your, your bear is just a bag of stuffing. He just has no soul. He has no, he has nothing, he's nothing inside without the heart. Exactly. But we can, we convinced him to leave it. Would you squeeze your bear, you're holding the heart.
Starting point is 00:09:16 exactly that heart's always with you even if it's in the bear buddy he ended up being okay with it after after the end but um so all right so to my point we're in there he wants to he wants to hold it up and go shhqqdhi ma getting back to us anyway so he so we're in line for this and i noticed the lady with the knuckles and all that and's fine um the lady with the knuckles the lady with the hands you know what i mean um and while i'm looking at looking at her, somebody comes in there who's probably late, he may have been close to our age, but he's like late 40s, maybe, 48, 49, something like that. He has two backpacks on. Both have big, build a bear bears in them covered in all the accoutrement you can get there, like little trinkets
Starting point is 00:10:08 and hats. Every accessory that they sell there, yeah. Shoes and all this stuff. They're just like kind of strapped back there like kids. And then he had two small. ones one out of a pocket on this side one out of a pocket on this side and he's holding one in one arm and then the other arm he's got a phone and he's flipping through it maniacally just kind of like trying to look like he's trying to find something and he comes walking in there with all this stuff and I went oh must be an employee or something I thought maybe a guy coming back from I don't know whatever they do sure I don't know what they do sure but I was like thinking that was it and then from lunch at sabarro yeah something like that perfect right the food courts just up the
Starting point is 00:10:48 hall it's no big deal so he's in there milling around and then i noticed well no he's not working here he's going around and he's looking for stuff he's on his phone and i can tell by looking far enough away i can see on his phone he's got like a version of a bear accessory and he's looking for that accessory and he can't find it and he's asking the lady and the lady's pointing him around he grabs three or four things goes and buys them stuff's all that plus a new bear plus some clothes and some other stuff into a backpack thing. These are finished bears. Like he didn't buy,
Starting point is 00:11:15 he didn't wait in line to have one stuffed. You can buy him finished there. So he does that. And then leaves. So my question is, for the universe at large, did I miss a memo on like,
Starting point is 00:11:27 there's a really specific, hardcore buildabare fandom that leaks like well into middle age adulthood in the way that you would have, you know, a larper or a furry or a freaking,
Starting point is 00:11:39 whatever. Or someone who collects, Anberniks, for example. There you go. Somebody who buys too many video games. Spice Girl Legos. Yeah. A guy with 2,000 plus video games
Starting point is 00:11:50 in his Steam library. Things like that. Exactly. Or somebody out of who just collects anything that has the stupid Marvel logo on it. I don't know. I don't know what any of you are talking about. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So what I was trying to do at the time was not go. I'm trying to fight my base instinct. That's weird. And instead go, oh, all right. Well, there's a new kind of. New kind of thing. Someone in the chat, Dr. Gown says reseller, so it could have been like an eBay guy or something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It doesn't sound like he, if he's like belting them to his backpack and carrying them around, it doesn't look like he's buying them to just keep them at home and resell them and, you know. Yeah. Got to make sure I keep this one in good condition so I can sell it on eBay or whatever. Yeah, he was proudly displaying them. He looked like he wanted these to be seen the way he was wearing them, to me.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You know what I mean? It's less a, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I think it's probably not where there's a subculture like a, like, bronies or furries or something like that. I think it's just, it's just like there's, you know, anything you can think of, there are going to be fervent fans. Fervant. Fervant. Fervant. Fervant. Fervant. Fervant fans. You can be fervant, sure. I like that word. Can I use that word correctly. Fanatic? Maybe fanatic's the better. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:10 addicts exactly i mean and you know we have we have that same thing i can hardly walk in my basin oh no i can i don't let's let's not make anybody think that it's a horder town down here but i do have you know marvel stuff frigging everywhere somebody might you know he might come in here and go like wow that guy really has a thing for marvel oh that reminds me this you want to hear something sad yeah this is very sad oh no maybe i don't well it's not that sad. It's sad enough to share it with you here. Is it a super cut of all of the people crying over the day that TikTok was down? No, for the whole 12 hours or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Oh, my God. The videos of like, I can't think of anything sadder in my life than this thing. So dumb. All right. So you've seen my skullhead before, right? No big deal? Yes. But have you seen it in this form? So I walked into my office the other day And you know the big skeleton that has Patrick's scarf on it That's usually right behind me Oh yeah yeah yeah apparently it was sitting in a very skewampous way I got another
Starting point is 00:14:22 I got another catastrophe here Thankfully none of the awesome Brian 3D Princey sent me were in the They're over there so they're in their own little space And they did not get hurt by this But this skull felt So apparently this all crashed The major skeleton fell knock this off, broke the skull off, although I kind of like it now.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's kind of rad. It's a little, it's a little Kylo Renz, the Darth Vader helmet. Yeah, right? I'm going to keep it like this. Just, you know, put it on the table. It's kind of cool. Yeah, throw it down and finish what you started. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And then this thing, which I don't even remember the name of the fan who sent it, but whoever sent me this thing with the gross teeth. Oh, yeah. One of the test, or testicles, one of the tentacles fell off. and I came very easily glue it, so I'm not worried about this, and I'll glue it. Yeah, yeah. The other thing was, oh, Boba Fett fell. He didn't break.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So is this like old domino effect of victim? All this other shit back here, well, not all of it, but a bunch of it fell off. And the Boba Fett fell, and I walked in here and went, Boba Fett as soon as I saw it, because I couldn't help it. And then, what was the other thing that broke? Oh, and the head of the main skeleton shot clear across the room, so it popped off and went away over there. but the scarf is okay.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Heads did roll, yeah. It was bad, so I'm not doing that no more. I'm not putting it there anymore. It almost took out these little arcade machines I have over here and some other stuff. I'm like, why did I put that? Oh, gosh. Why did I put him there?
Starting point is 00:15:52 I don't need a skeleton there. Freaking Halloween's over. It's fine. So I'm not doing that. Yeah, but I mean, you know, you'd think it would be stable enough to hang. I will confess, and I've not talked about this. It was a little too,
Starting point is 00:16:07 The wound was too sore for me to talk about it earlier. But when I moved this red cabinet back so I could have a place for the cat to hang out down here. Spoiler alert, I put three different cat perches there. Oh, shit. And she got on one for half an hour, and that's it. Oh, she didn't like it. She ended up disapproving. She likes it right here.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I have it six feet to the left. She loves it. She's on it right now. But if it was there, no, don't like it there. And J.K. Grammer kind of predicted what I'm about to talk about. Let's see, let's get some pieces. Oh, I'm scared, dude. What broke?
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm scared. It's not your pinball machine, is it? Because it's dark. I will talk about that, too. These are all pieces of Iron Man. No! This was that really complicated monthly thing you had to put together and stuff. This was the monthly thing that I put together.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Now, here's the good. news. A lot of these things that fell off are just the magnetized pieces that go, you know, right back on. This piece just had two pegs and I had a little bit of blue tack, which
Starting point is 00:17:21 apparently wasn't enough to keep it with the two pegs. So there's very little, very little damage. Like almost none. And any damage there is is something that just can be glued. This is another, yeah, it's another piece that's just got a magnet on it.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So that will snap back on. Not too bad. Now I want to figure out, I don't know if I want to put him back up here. Oh, well, now that he's down, you get to make a decision about what you want to do. I get to decide where I want to put him and I've got to figure it out. And I think a custom, not a custom shelf, but a shelf somewhere where less things happen. And it's not like I, like, it's not like I'm hurting for geek toys for my background here. sure um now since we're talking about it yes the pinball machine is dark yeah what oh i'm scared
Starting point is 00:18:14 don't tell me something terrible well this this has this has a potential happy ending oh i like happy endings which you normally have to pay extra for that's why i heard but this so and i would actually in this case um if you look at the arcade one-up pinball um red that or you YouTube or any of that stuff, or where fans are getting together and talking, the number one thing that happens with the arcade one at pinball is that the PCB fries. It just burns out because they have bad airflow in there, nothing to keep it cool. It gets really warm in there. And I used to keep that thing on. It's over there.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Kind of permanently, right? It was always on. Kind of all day. Like, basically, if I was streaming all this shit behind me, sterilizing me from the outside. side is on. And so no wonder it burned out. But Oh, it did burn out. So how did you know
Starting point is 00:19:14 you just turned around one day and it wasn't on or it just wouldn't come on? Yeah, it, nothing like the the backglass where it says Marvel turned on but the scoreboard and the playfield did not turn on. And so I looked online and people are saying, yeah, that's usually a sign of the board going bad. But let arcade one up know because they do troubleshooting with you
Starting point is 00:19:36 even after it's out of warranty. So sure enough, I did that. One of the things I did while Marvel Snap was down is do all the long list of eight things, taking that thing apart and troubleshooting like unseating cables and trying, you know, bypassing things and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And turns out, yeah, it is the PCB. And I heard from them today, after all that troubleshooting, and I let them know, here's the results of the troubleshooting. they'll replace the board just for $100. Oh, that's not bad. Out of warranty board replacement, not bad.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Not bad at all. However, I think I can do better. Oh, you're going to custom do something, aren't you? I'm going to custom do something. I've got an LG monitor that is exactly the right size to replace the stock 720 monitor. This is like a nice LG monitor that I don't want. I was doing all that work for that company that kept sending me equipment. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I'm glad you did that because I got that sweet deal on that. You got a sweet deal out of Mac. Yeah, Kim's Mac. She loves her Macbook, by the way. Like, changed her life because what she was using before sucked ass, and she's very happy with it. Anyway, continue the story. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And I'm basically going to put a PC in there. What that does is instead of the 12 Marvel Star Wars and, um aliens from mars or whatever that game was that the other pinball machine that i could install in there with with the the small uh the version of uh zen pinball now i can put on zen fx3 from steam and have you know dozens of games hundreds of games yeah and you could probably just do uh what a raspberry pie you don't even need like a full-blown PC or anything right Possibly, although all the instructions that I've been saying suggest PC, and I've got a spare PC that is more than powerful enough sitting around that I can use. It doesn't even need to go inside the cabinet, although there's tons of room in there.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But I can actually have a, I can actually have the PC on the floor. There's a guy named Cool Toys on YouTube who has these great instructions on how to do it. I've got a little monitor that's going to replace the back. glass. This will be a fun, easy, and cheap mod, and I'll probably be able to get through the whole thing, maybe only spending 150 bucks or 200 bucks. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Now that you're going to do that, I may use this as motivation to finally pull my dad's old cabinet in here, get it, and do that. Basically, it's the same thing. I've got to do this very similar thing. But I think I'm going to do, I can just do a pie because I'm going to make it just a mega maim retro pie. I don't need it to do, you know, freaking PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:22:40 No. I want it to just do the arcade. I want arcade machines for days, is what I want. Mame cabinet, basically. Yeah, super, super easy. And you're just going to need to get one of those little USB boards for $12. I can send you a link to the one you need. It'll connect to all your buttons.
Starting point is 00:22:58 You can even put in brand new buttons for cheap. Yeah, I even have. I got a whole set here that I haven't used yet, so I've been planning this for years and just never get around to it. It's time. I've got to do it. And Jim Jensen, our listener extraordinaire, who lives locally here, he's always like, dude, I'll come help you take out that, you know, CRT so you don't melt your hand off or whatever. And I'm like, it hasn't been turned on since 1980, probably 89, 88.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I'm sure the capacitors have lost all the, whatever they were storing up. I think so. once in a while and an electrician will say careful scott those things can hold them for a hundred years i'm like are you kidding me a hundred a hundred years really but what if i wear giant gloves and you know what if i'm yeah i don't know i'm scared to do it on my own grounded if i if i if i have 18 wires on my feet connecting to every iron surface in the house yeah i might do it though yeah um now that you're now that you're talking about this it might be a good time for us to just kind of all right we got these dual projects and here let's do a little check in and
Starting point is 00:24:00 The actual project, yeah. All right. I'm motivated. The other thing I did while Snap was down is I designed a stand for my guitar. Oh, look at that. For my, yeah. That's nice. Like perfectly sized, 3D, 3D designed and printed, free-D, free-d-free.
Starting point is 00:24:26 That looks great. I put it up on the Lava Jeannie Facebook site, and just about everybody was like, oh, this is awesome, thank you. And I shared the files free on printables for people to print their own. I have it up on Etsy for, you know, basically cost of time and materials and shipping.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And one person says, I don't think it's cool that you do this. When those people at Lava Jeannie work really hard on their guitars and you're taking where their livelihood. That makes me want to flick their nipple. They don't have a stand. I'm not competing.
Starting point is 00:25:07 This is not like, you know, like I'm taking away their money because I'm offering a cheaper price on a compatible or on a competing thing. And it makes me want to say, is the cover on your cell phone made by Android or Apple? Or do you have maybe
Starting point is 00:25:25 I don't know, third-party product. Is that not cool? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't like that at all. People annoy me that do that sort of thing. Yeah. That reminds me, I got in some, not trouble, but something happened that's very stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Very stupid. And it reminds me of this. And it turns out it's not even, it's even less cool than you think. So I, you know, I had those, I had some art up on my store that was like, Fallout inspired stuff from when the show came out. So I had like the big new Coca-Cola bottle that people were climbing and then I had
Starting point is 00:26:02 the terminal, the hack terminal thing and all that kind of stuff, right? So it was all original art for me. It was all fan art of these items from various fallout things are inspired by fallout stuff. Sure. And the one with the Fallout Boy, the Pit Boy, or what's his name?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Not Fallout Boy. Whatever boy. Pip, Pipboy. Pit Boy is the thing on your arm. What's the little character called? Oh, the guy, the guy who, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a Fallout Boy. Oh, it's not a Fallout Boy, because that's the name of the band.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It's like Nuke, Newk Boy, something boy. Yeah, somebody will help us with that. Whatever it is. Vault Boy. Geez, of course, freaking that vault came. I should have thought of that. Anyway, I get a takedown notice from Shopify for my store. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And I went, oh, I go. shoot, is it Bethesda or freaking Microsoft or Prime for the series or something? Like, who is this? And I've had Takedown notices before way back in the day from like Marvel and stuff for those fat heroes I did a long time ago. Or no, it's DC. DC was the, yeah, Marvel doesn't care. No, you didn't care. Now none of them care because it's just, it's fan art.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It's what you do now. Everybody's selling fan art. Go look at it. Spend five seconds on Etsy. Everything's fan-related or something to do with the IP. So I dig around. Nope. In fact, he may be listening now, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:23 But it's a listener who's just got a little crop as crack. Really? He sent a DMCA takedown thing with a little note that said, these are inspired directly from a video game that he does not have the whatever for. So somebody, some fan of the show, or fans, excuse me, fan and quotes. Well, you say listener, you know, that hardly a fan. So I just took it down. I'm not going to fight it.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I just took it down. It's like, F off. Yeah. You pud? It makes me mad. And he's done this before. I think I know who it is because I've had him pop into videos before. They're totally unrelated.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It would be like a core video. And it'll pop up and go, just here to see if Scott is still making IP-based products that aren't his. And I'm like, F off, dude. It's art. You don't understand how this works. Go away. So instead of going away, he reported it. Bastard.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Oh, my God. Yeah. Brian, before you. I have to take a look at Etsy right now. Or anywhere. Yeah. Go on a reporting sprint. go to any stores anywhere and want you just you know what better yet go to a local con like a local
Starting point is 00:28:26 comic con slash fan fan x or something and just look at artist alley and enjoy how many of those people aren't the people who invented spider man or worked for marvel but they got spider man art for sale spider man art yeah why don't you go around there and act like karen you bastard Anyway. One final note before we head to news, and that's a text we got from Toots McLaren. I love that name. Toots McLaren. We've heard from Toots McClaren.
Starting point is 00:28:55 It's been a while, so it's nice to hear from him. He says, hey, Scott and Brian, Toots McLaren here, and then a wavy hand. I like a little icon. I was listening to the episode. They're called emojis. Yeah, there are emojis. You're right. When I was a kid, we called him emoticons.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Remember that? emoticons. I do remember that. We should bring that back and really, really piss off the millennials. I think I... Look at the emoticon of an, of a eggplant. What does that mean? I think I prefer it over emojis, because that really annoyed me when it came around. It's like, we're not calling that, are we? And then we did. Anyway, I was listening to the episode, uh, what Scott was talking about. I like how he said what. When he nearly ended his puking streak due to some rancid New Jersey Michael's chicken. Oh, it's, you'll enjoy a lovely sandwich, a submarine sandwich from New Jersey Michael.
Starting point is 00:29:49 New Jersey Michaels. Yes, I would like it. Michael's Way. Michael's method. I don't know how he'd say it. Anyway, Scott's story made me realize my own streak went as far back as 1991. That streak was ended when I was struck by a kidney stone that, let me tell you, boys, by great Caesar's ghosts. I've never felt pain so excruciating, and it made me hurl.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Not once, but eight times at least. So here's to you, Scott. I hope your street continues and is not broken by kidney stone. Still a big fan of the program regardless. Toots. Well, Toots. Funny you should ask. My last doctor, regular six-month check-up, whatever, tested a bunch of stuff, including kidney function.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I'm happy to report zero sign of any stones and or limited kidney function at all. Kidneys are great. So I don't want a stone. I had a brother-in-law with one of those things. look, Kramer made it seem like a funny time, all right, on that Seinfeld episode. Well, I mean, the episode was funny. The pain, you could feel the pain that, you know, Michael Richards was pretending to have with that. Yeah, and the way he screamed and, like, you could hear it across the city.
Starting point is 00:30:58 That made that lady, the circus lady, fall off the balance beam or something. That's right. So, so, yeah, I don't ever want that. I work hard not to have it. I drink a lot of water to avoid it. So I'm sorry you had to go through that, too. but also that's a big streak. It's going to take something like that, though, for me.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Because regular illness, my body won't respond. It's going to have to be something severe. And I don't look forward to it, but whatever it is, it'll finally make me break that streak. And again, I welcome it. It's fine. Bring it. I'll puke now if I could.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I can't. I don't know why. My doctor thinks I'm, she thinks I have a, like a childhood block. of it like trauma like there's some sort of puke trauma yeah and i think if if she's right it was when i saw that body get pulled from the river and i and i got i went to shock that night and i hurled all over my mom's ugly couch yeah and uh it was so ugly do that cow you could hardly tell i barfed on it was so ugly because it was just it just blended in um they didn't notice till like
Starting point is 00:32:06 the next two days later they're like what's wrong with this couch i'm like oh somebody scott puked on it i was little well i was i wasn't little i was i wasn't little i 13 but the point is that was a very that's a very awful experience and if I'm honest I think since then it's been very rare so maybe I have like an aversion to because the whole thing I just associate with death and yanking a guy out of the river a body out of the river Brian oh god not just that would make me not just like a rancid chito it's like a full on dead body or you know a rancid New Jersey Michael's chicken. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And I've told this story before, I think. Hootie's acting surprise, but I think I've talked about it, haven't I? Oh, my gosh. You totally have. Yeah, no. It was like, yeah. On this show multiple times. You and your sister have even talked about it a couple times in therapy Thursday.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah, certainly could be. I mean, you and I, we traced back, or maybe it was Wendy and I last, last TMS, Vegas, traced back why, you know, some of my nerves in front of, you know, on a stage in front of a crowd at TMS Vegas came from this thing that happened back in elementary school where I forgot the opening lyrics to Rudolph the Red Nose Rainer, my solo, my, you know, dasher and dancer and dancer. That's right. That is right. Which I think, did any of that, I can't remember, did any of that also say, well, maybe
Starting point is 00:33:37 that's why you are so good now at knowing lyrics. lyrics, which band sang them, who covered what? You know what I'm saying? Like, in addition to the grappling debilitation, it also gave me one other superpower. Yeah, because you've had to work that. Wallflower Peter Parker, who can also climb walls, basically.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yes, sure. It's wild how our brains work. Possibly, yeah, who knows? It would be interesting if that is related. I mean, I've always loved music and lyrics and stuff like that, but I wonder if that was where it stemmed from. I think, no, I think it had to be before then. I had an AM radio glued to my head for the first 10 years of my life.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, yeah, I mean, you obviously had a love for the stuff, yeah. Like you were born to have music, be an appendage of your life. And if you want to hear some of that music, people, 45 tracks of it, go to, what is it, Patreon.com slash film sack and buy the album. No, go to frogpants. Shop and get by the album. I tried to do it through Patreon, but it wouldn't let me do the, wouldn't let me do a digital download without jumping through serious hoops. It was a huge pain in the butt.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But yeah, go get it. We're, we're pulling that at the end of the month, guys. Yeah, 10 days. You want your January, finish your January grabbing Brian Abbott sessions, film sack intros, 999 is all. No shipping, obviously. because it's digital. And if you get it at Frogpants.com shop right now,
Starting point is 00:35:10 it will go away for the year at the end of the month. And then next year, you might get a January with a new album of the previous year. No guarantee. No guarantee. We won't put them in the Disney vault
Starting point is 00:35:21 if you know what I mean. You know? Just tuck them away. People probably more want the, I can't get it on my horse, the Depeche Mode thing that I did for Unforgiven. Unfortunately, that's 2025. You've got to wait until,
Starting point is 00:35:37 January 2026 to get that one. Yeah, may that year come quickly. Whatever, we're going to use this year. The next four. May they go very quickly. That's what we hope. Exactly. And for relatively damage-free.
Starting point is 00:35:51 All right, let's move on to the news. We have a few news stories we're going to get to at least time for one or two. And they begin with this. Brian, it's time for the news brought to us by who. The TMS Film Fest now with a proper prize package. See, look at that. all that alliteration. Listen to the bottom of the show for details on what you could win. That's right. Go to frogpants.com slash film fest. 30 seconds. It's all we ask. You submit a little
Starting point is 00:36:17 YouTube private link or a little unlisted link when you're done. All the rules and the conditions are there. If you stick around at the end of the show, we'll detail all the prizes that will be yours. And they are physical. It's not just like, we'll send you a selfie. It's not like that. I guess if you want, I'm like that. I mean, we'll include one if you'd like that. If you want a selfie, You can add a selfie. It's fine. It's pretty incredible stuff in this list. Indeed. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:42 So get on it. And thanks to everybody who's already submitted theirs. We need more, though. Let's get to this story. White people shouldn't mess with it is the quote we're going to start with. You wonder what I'm talking about? Well, this is what a Native American church says about psychedelic cactus shortages. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I did not realize there were psychedelic cacti. I mean, I guess, well, I guess, I don't know. Like, I don't know. Well, let's read and we'll find out. But Aldous Huxley wrote about the spiritual visions he had while taking the drug mescaline. Also, it's mescaline that comes from that. I didn't know that. I may have forgotten about this first paragraph when I put this in here. Anyway, in the book, The Doors of Perception while Hunter S. Thompson wrote about it driving 100 miles per hour while under the influence of it in fear and loathing in Las Vegas. But now a growing number of spiritual westernists or westerns are seeking dabbling into these psychedelics. And they're They were being accused of causing a shortage of the plant that produces mescaline. Apparently, it's cactus. Experts born last week, a shortage of peyote, a sacred cactus. Now, I thought that was poop, cow poop, peyote. Why did I think that?
Starting point is 00:37:50 No. I don't know why I thought that. I thought peyote was, uh, cow poop, dung. I thought it was dung, you know, because you can get the, you get the mushrooms and the whatnot out of that. Sure. I always thought that. I don't know why. I use that for growing mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:38:06 yeah i don't know if you were asking me where peyote came from i would i would say it came from cactus but i wouldn't be i'd probably only be about 40% sure yeah um well it says here whoops i lost my place here we go sacred cactus used by native americans and religious rituals
Starting point is 00:38:25 which produce the hallucinogenic drug and only grows in limited range across the southern united states and northern mexico they blame a psychedelic resistance or renaissance rather They're taking off in wealthy Western societies, as well as over-harvesting and land development. Demandes for the psychedelic drug became popular in the counterculture hippie movement in the 60s has surged alongside Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca. Well, you knew that real quick. You knew that real fast.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, I sure did. That's my middle name. Oh, got a whole drawer full of the ayahuasca there. I just like that. I like that the spelling. Like if somebody wants to give me a little. a spelling view on ayahuasca. I've got it.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah, it's right there. South American psychoactive compound traditionally used by indigenous cultures and folk healers in the Amazon and the Ororinco basins. Orinoco. Orinoco flow. Stale away, stale away. Is she getting stoned in that song? What's her deal there? What's going on with that?
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's just a location. It's just a South American river, I think, or South American. Yeah, chat was just talking about You had one of your... Am I done with being a robot? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, good. It was just a brief...
Starting point is 00:39:42 I forgot the name of your ISP now. Oh, tedious. It's a very tedious. It's very brief, though. It was very quick. I get a thing saying, sorry, Kat, I'm picking up things. Don't get freaked out.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Xfinity, saying that the, that fiber is now available in my area. Ooh, fiber from Xfinity is not bad. I had to do cable from them. and it sucked and I got rid of them but their fiber is supposed to be pretty good they're basically leasing fiber lines that other other ISPs have access to it too
Starting point is 00:40:15 but it just depends on our area you should follow or check that out that's probably well I don't know what they're charging but I'm guessing it's pretty good it's under 100 bucks a month for but it does the numbers they gave me seemed really dumb
Starting point is 00:40:29 let me if you don't mind no let's do it let's do it we're gonna dig into the world of a broadband acquisition here on the morning stream. This didn't sound, all right, so, 1,200 megabits per second, 85 bucks. That's the highest that they list for fiber. Is that seem low to you? 1,200 megabits is not bad.
Starting point is 00:40:56 That's a gigabit and a gigabit.2. Yeah. So that's pretty normal, pretty normal, although you can do, I guess, Google. Fiber will go higher. Yeah, maybe that's what my thinking was, is that Google, that fiber typically is way higher than 1.2 gigabits. Yeah. I mean, 1.2, I mean, that's gigabit internet.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That's pretty fast. I mean, that's as fast as, I mean, that's fast. That's really fast. Yeah. Like, you're talking about, what are you doing now up and down, probably 60 down or something like that? I think it's something 60 down. Yeah. because this is much more than that.
Starting point is 00:41:37 For sure. The up is what needs to be strong. I can send you a signal or not. Yeah, stop and fiber should give you equal. If it's true fiber, you should be getting the gigabit up and down, which is great. Cable, cable from Xfinity sucks ass. I hate it. Really? Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah, but their fiber is probably fine. All right. So, yeah, this is a people are confirming that this is not, not bad. All right, so. The rate, you don't have to call it out every time. We know when it happens. It's fine. If it's real bad, I'll tell Brian.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It wasn't bad. It was like a tiny blip. I love that the rate is always like, oh, tap it again. It's like, no, I know. Plus, it was like 10 seconds ago. Yeah. And we can't do anything about it. And, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Who knows? If you end up with this fiber, all of it goes away and everyone's happy. So, yeah. All right. Well, that's a good sign for me to call back Annalise about this. 85's not bad. Is that unlimited? There's no caps on the fiber, I would have to think.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That's the thing. I got to find out if there is a bandwidth cap. That would be interesting. Yeah. Pixel Ridge says they've got Comcast fiber at two gig or cable at two gig. Their cable's fine if you don't pay attention to what's happening or you don't stream anything. Like if you're just a household and what I mean stream, I mean upstream.
Starting point is 00:42:59 It gets real bad, especially at night. you compete with people's cable usage like it sucked i hated it it's not a good time and they treated me like shit they were not great to work with because it's all shared jeez they were bad um yeah anyway let me know how that goes that sounds great it'll do uh anyway they're all out of these cactus and they want to get high so quit taking them white people um here's a i was going to smoke the cactus but then we got high i honestly i really thought peyote was poop learn something today. That's funny. Yeah. Well, now is it more appetizing sounding? Yeah, I think I could go for a bowl of peyote. Cool. Let's see if we can grab some ayahuasca while we're in Vegas and
Starting point is 00:43:40 really, you know, really go to town. Sure. Progresso soups are rare when the new one drops, but we got a new Progresso soup with no peyote in it. It's not even a soup. Check this out. The Progresso soup people offering a chicken noodle hard candy. Yeah. Brian, the the slogan is soup you can suck on. Like, ultimately, the most thickened liquid you can get. It doesn't get more thicken than solid, does it? Does not get more thickened than solid. Welcome to completely thickened liquid.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Oh, that's funny. It says, if you didn't know already, January is National Soup Month. I didn't know that. And a company that often comes to mind when you think of them is Progresso, and then, of course, noodle soups of all sorts. think savory hard candy. This is what you can expect from the limited edition Progresso. It's called soup drops.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Like you've dropped. I played base for the soup drops back in the 90s. Well, they were pretty good until, you know, the controversy. Until then, it was fine. It is a nice, nice combination of the soup dragons and the mighty lemon drops. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:52 you've got, there is something there. There's precedent for it. It says they're calling this the ultimate collad, Colad Anyway And probably Collab Colab Oh no cold
Starting point is 00:45:04 I think they just mean cold right Why'd they say colad They do mean cold Yeah they just had an extra egg Maybe that's a Just wrapped in extra Maybe that yeah they put Either that's an A typo
Starting point is 00:45:15 Or Dr. Tolbert's gonna let us know That colad means something in colds And I just never heard of it It's a different kind of cold But they say it offers I have the worst collad And since you haven't been feeling good Maybe you should try one of these soup drops Brian
Starting point is 00:45:28 Maybe that'll help you for that I want, they're sold out, but I, but they're basically, um, next, this coming Thursday. So two days from now, they're selling more. You and I need to try these on the show. Hell yes. Hell yes. Oh, look at them. They look, they look, like, kind of look good. They do.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like, it's kind of, like, I'm kind of in. I don't know why these look good. I don't, I'm questioning my sanity. Why I want one. They look like lozenges, basically. It looked like Hull's, Hals, um,
Starting point is 00:46:01 menthol drops. Or like, uh, yeah, or like a, um, uh, what am I trying to compare this to?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Like, uh, a Luden's honey. Yeah, or maybe even though, what are the butterscotch ones? Everyone, the old men always give their grandkids.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Oh, Wothers or something. Yeah, like a big old Wurthers. But it tastes like soup. Oh, freaking I'm, I am all in,
Starting point is 00:46:22 dude. Chicken noodle soup. As long as it doesn't have chunks, as long as it's just basically boo on. If anyone gets a line on these before we do, let us know, but I think we'll try to grab these. I think we'll get some. All right, we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Let's see. 9 a.m. Eastern time. So 7 a.m. our time Thursday is when they go on sale. We need to... Is it direct or you get them off some site or what is it? Where do you buy them? Looks like you have to get them online at the Progresso website. Okay. Progresso.com, I assume.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Looks like it. Yep. And, uh, let's see, do they have, they don't even have a link on their homepage currently talking about it. Weird. Soup drops. Soup drops. Clams us. Clams.
Starting point is 00:47:15 All right. Uh, well done. We're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, Dan, Dan, the tabletop man's going to be here. He just got back from some event and he thinks he's found the perfect Scott and Brian games for us. No way. Oh, perfect. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I'm all in. And we'll ask him about this, if you take, if you get the vaxes and a cold the same day, what does that do? Because he's a pharmacist, and he might know. I don't know. Anyway, that's coming up after this break. Brian, let's play a song, though, before we go. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:44 This is, this is great. And this one, it took about a minute into the song for me to get hooked. So the beginning sounds like, you know, your regular kind of pop, current pop state. staple, but as soon as it gets kind of going, it's like, oh, this is deeper. This is much better. This is a woman named Moonchild Sinelli, or it might be Moonchild. It can't be Sainly because there are two L's, but it's Moonchild. Let's say Moonchild Sinelli. She has a brand new album called Full Moon. Big things to transgressive records for sending this out. This is a brand new song. It's called Falling. I really love this thing. Electronic, hooky, pop. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:26 R&B-ish. It's got a lot of stuff going on here. Oh, and she's a South African superstar in Waiting, too. Oh, nice. Pop Qualto. I'm an American superstar in Waiting, by the way. I'm just waiting. You are.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I think we're here. Yeah, excellent. Yeah. It's going to take a while, I'm sure, but I'm in waiting. It's going to take a while. Yeah, yeah. But, all right. Anyway, Moonchild, Sinelli from her brand new album, full moon.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Here is Falling. I'm scared of falling, scared of losing. Bitch, I know my family. I'm scared of falling, I'm scared of falling, scared of losing, bitch, I know my family looking I'm not looking for love I'm not looking for boys
Starting point is 00:49:19 I'm not looking for clouds I'm not rocking that bows I'm just happy with minds And I'm taking their doll though But that's just not enough I mean I just bought me a house I make them better Then they turn bitter
Starting point is 00:49:41 I enter sweet Then I live sour I love them hot They leave me cold I bring the lights They switch them off It's not my baby That's what he said
Starting point is 00:49:53 He kicked us out Just out without a test I had to find a home for kids But now I'm winning So kiss my teeth I'm not looking for love I'm not looking for boys I'm not looking for clouds
Starting point is 00:50:09 I'm not walking that boat I'm just happy with minds And I'm thinking they go But that's just not enough I mean I just bought me I'm scared of falling, scared of losing, bitch, I know my family new king. I'm scared of falling, scared of losing, bitch, I know my family new king. Again
Starting point is 00:50:47 Pating out of oiqaie come on, come on down, Tia be found out, Tia be found now, Tia be found now Patending out Oiqa come on
Starting point is 00:51:06 ma'am come on down Tia be found now Tiabeamna love. I'm not looking for boys. I'm not looking for clouds. I'm not talking that goal. I'm just happy with minds. And I'm thinking they go, no. But that's just not enough. I mean, I just bought me a house.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I'm scared of falling, scared of losing bitch. I know my family. I'm looking. I'm scared of falling, scared of losing, shine, normal family looking. I'm scared of falling, scared of losing. I'm scared of falling, scared of losing. I'm scared of I'm scared of feeling out of the bottle. This is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:52:36 A minute ago, we're all strangers and now we're all strangers and now we're going to live together. And we've come back from that. What was that song one more time, please? It is Moon Child Sinelli from her brand new album, Full Moon, and a song called Falling. It's funny, our two songs today are very similar in name, but that's falling and really, really cool stuff there. What's our last song
Starting point is 00:53:10 called? Oh, I don't see it. It's called Killing. Oh, falling and killing. Yeah, if you fall, you might die. It's a form of killing, I suppose. If you fall on somebody, though. Oh, shit. You might kill them. I saw the most gnarly
Starting point is 00:53:26 accident on a video where like a big garbage truck-sized truck, like a tall, heavy truck. They were trying to get off some ridge and there were three guys down below it trying to do something. I don't know why they thought they were going to help, but the thing ended up cresting over the edge
Starting point is 00:53:42 and then tipped and fell on these dudes. And then they all got up somehow. I don't understand how they survived, but they survived it. There's no way I would live. Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. Geekjock blog, also known as Dan,
Starting point is 00:53:56 coming on the show here shortly. So let's get him going, and let's see what we can pull out of our butts. If I can find his intro. Here's a tangent for him. be careful may cause drowsiness indeed that's true that's not true he doesn't make me to sleep you when he talks it's dan dan dan the tabletop man hi dan you'd be surprised i think a lot of people have fall asleep when i talk the greetings program i don't believe it never i don't believe it
Starting point is 00:54:24 never never hey um you uh just got back from some cool game thing before we talk about any of that though i need to know if brian if if if brian goes to get his his flu vaccine or his COVID shots, boosters, and it gets a cold the same day, like an actual cold, even if it's not one of the two. Well, let's say it is. Let's say it's the flu that the vaccine is meant to address this year. But he doesn't know he has it, but he's acquired that flu. It's incubating.
Starting point is 00:54:54 He gets the shot. An hour later, the flu actually kicks in plus effects from the shots. Is he better off that he did it or did that neutralize its effect? Like, what does that do to a person if that, because I'm sure this happens. timing is just bad. As I will tell you, it's been, I had got the shot combo Saturday and still not 100%, but way better than I was Sunday and definitely better than I was yesterday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:21 So when you said a shot combo, so you got COVID and flu at the same time? COVID and flu shots at the same time. Same arm. Not that that matters. So I just want to address a couple things, the way you said it, Scott. You said these things happen, like you said kind of this happens. it when you say it happens it doesn't happen because one or the other no it just happens in real life because of uh just random happens yeah that's all i mean it's just coincidence right yeah
Starting point is 00:55:45 and also when you say you get the flu you already had the flu when you got the shot if you started having symptoms on the same day right right if you think of it that way so that stuff everything has to be in your system technically already but you're not getting it from either one of those shots now i don't think any of there's i don't think there's any brands right now of covigs i'm pretty sure even the COVID is is uh is not a live vaccine and flu is definitely not a live vaccine there I don't think there are any live versions of the shots available as of now some things like they had these have the nasal I don't know if they make even a nasal live anymore uh I haven't seen a lot of them I haven't done a lot of vaccines you know working where I'm work now I don't give uh any
Starting point is 00:56:25 I am a sort of a vaccinator but I don't give anything anymore uh and some of these things come and go like year to year as far as what's available now that being said one of the things you always ask people when they come in to get vaccines, either of vaccines. How are you feeling? Are you sick? That has nothing to do with whether you're going to get sick or whether or not you're going to have the COVID or have it or not have the response. You just may not have the correct, quick response to building those immunities and, you know, the antibodies to what you're getting as fast as you would like them to. Now, it's also not going to help what you're, if you're sick right now, we're about to be sick, it's not really going to help any of that.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Like, you're, you're not going to get your full response to those for a few weeks. It's going to take a while for your body to build those antibodies because you're not injecting people with antibodies with these shots. You're just giving their body a kickstart or saying, you know, you're almost like holding up a sign and saying, you know, build antibodies to this. Basically what it's doing. And that's what you're getting. And then, you know, if you got it a couple weeks later, it's probably going to help maybe
Starting point is 00:57:30 the extent of it. remember you're taking these vaccines to either reduce the severity of what you're going to get or reduce how many times you're going to get these things these are not even even if you get that strain even though you should technically be immune you know the way immunities work you should be technically immune to it it's just not like everything mutates so much so you're not going to be quote unquote immune you may just not get it a couple of times because of those immunities and such it's just going to help your body to fight it off a little bit quicker or just not get generally people that have the most effect from the flu vaccine are people that are going to get it three or more times a year,
Starting point is 00:58:06 you know, depending on either where they live, you know, as far as, or how many times they come in contact with, with other people at that. And also, it's going to help you because you're not going to necessarily bring a home, you know, that to your loved ones and such. So there are people that, you know, the benefit and risk is, I mean, there's almost no risk to it. There's risk with anything you put in your body. Your body's going to have that immune response. And that's why you feel like ass, Brian is because you're, because you're not. you're having that immune response. Since you've had that one response this year,
Starting point is 00:58:35 I would probably recommend you wait a month between shots next year. You know, like we'd get one and then come back and get the other. Now, again, it may not matter or one day of feeling like ass may not be that big of a deal because you've got the shots and it's over with. And by next year, actually, by next year, it may not even be a big deal because there is a company that's developing a joint shot of the two. And I knew that was only a matter of time where you're going to have COVID and flu in one in jack's turn yeah he said joint and i thought weed you getting some weed yeah no it was
Starting point is 00:59:08 two and a half days dan oh wow yeah but but i like the idea of spreading apart at least a month and and doing that yeah when i got them i got them together they bother me not at all so this illustrates dan's whole point which is like some people react some don't i my biggest curiosity was though if brian went in there with an incubated virus already doing its work and he just wasn't feeling symptoms yet and then later fell symptoms from that because of the again coincidence of it all did the shot benefit him at all or did it make it worse or i guess it just depends on who you are i mean nothing it's it you're totally going to get the benefit of it it just may take a little while longer but you're you're fine there is not really any risk or uh to worry about
Starting point is 00:59:49 or anything again that may have uh it kind of could the only risk you may have had is it could have made that two and a half days worse like maybe if you weren't if you weren't if you He didn't have a cold because you said, because you're asking this because you had a cold that day, right, Brian? We think. Well, I'm thinking I'm, I'm thinking I might have just because of how quickly symptoms came on. Usually it was, you know, in the past one I've gotten the, I've never done the combo of the two together. But in the past where I've done the COVID booster, it was six hours later, I started feeling like, oh, okay, yeah, now I'm not feeling so good. And then it was gone in four hours, like, bzip, gone as quickly as it came on.
Starting point is 01:00:26 But this one, A, came on a lot quicker after I left the place, B, stuck around for two and a half days. Yeah, and that's probably why. That could very well be why, because you're kicking your immune system in overdrive because you're already taxing it with the, you know, again, I always watch the words I use because I don't want anybody to get upset or anything. Like, when I say taxing your immune system because you're already forcing your immune system in overdrive and then it's being forced even more in overdrive because you got sick. Right. Or because you weren't. So that could be what prolonged it. You know, maybe next year you only feel bad for a day if you're completely healthy.
Starting point is 01:01:03 And what's interesting is, is like when these things come out. Because for information out there, you're taking basically both of these shots now. You're taking the variants or strains that were most popular from last year. You're taking three or four strains that are most popular. And you're just guessing. I love the term popular. It's actually accurate to say popular because it's populace. But it sounds like everybody's like, oh, man, I love this year's COVID.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It was so good. It was so popular, too. These were the, these were the variances with the highest yelp ratings. Yes. And then what happens is then they're producing them. And then some of these pharmacies, you're getting this year's flu shot, like in the middle of the summer. Now, do you necessarily want to get it? No, but maybe, Brian, you'll get your flu shot earlier next year. Maybe, you know, August, maybe early September.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And then maybe wait a month. Because maybe the COVID, again, I'm not in retail anymore, so I don't know when those start coming in, the COVID vials as opposed to the flu. Because I know the flu, man, they want your district manager wants that crap in the, they want you doing that as soon as you can. And that's why they're trying to push it the end of the summer. And I mean, I know where you guys live. I mean, it snows on like August 30th.
Starting point is 01:02:14 So, I mean, hey, it's going to. So, you know, with the flu, you want, and again, it kind of does wane a little bit. You know, the earlier you take it, I mean, technically it doesn't wait. This is all kind of semantics about like the immune system and stuff like that. You still kind of want it during the peak of the season to be the peak in your system, even though it's not really leaving because you're, you know, you've got these immunities, you've got these cells are all over the place. So you're still going to get some peak immunity if you take it even in September and wait a month for the COVID.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Because right now, I mean, I don't think it's crazy to say that there is flu season. like is is a thing COVID season is all year you know I mean like even though it's kind of could be a little bit more in a winter but COVID season's all year so you know flu season is more of a thing because of the the weather and such like that yeah and how and how it transfers boy that norovirus can eat a eat a poo though that thing was bad this year everybody I knew had it yeah we somehow avoided it but man it was bad rough yeah and uh and it was going around like crazy in the northeast and even some down here and pretty much, like, everywhere, it's just, it's just crazy how vaccine, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:25 I'm sorry, viruses and stuff like that go. Like, it just takes off like wildfire. I mean, and that's why, you know, quite frankly, like, people looking at COVID are like, how can this happen? Well, if you really tracked every virus in the world, how it explodes and how it goes, it's just more of the, I don't think people realize how the extent of, you know, how strong and the, how strong COVID became, like that, how it was. Because if you look at certain strains of even the flu or a cold, you're like, wow, that went nuts.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah. I am glad, though, that it's, I'm glad it has to keep, like, the great, the only good thing about COVID is to, it's, it's desire to stay alive and relevant is making it less potent because it has to keep mutating to be easier to catch, but it's less deadly. Like, the stuff that was happening in 2020, freaking terrible. You get it now. It's like, I was lame, but I, you know, I'm okay. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the difference between my 20, my late, or my early 20, 22 catch and then the one I had last year couldn't have been more different.
Starting point is 01:04:33 The one I had last year was like almost nothing. It's like a few days and just feeling bad. Let's also not forget that that doesn't mean that there won't ever be a coronavirus that is strong or there won't ever be a nor. So coronavirus wasn't new. Like, it was around for, I mean, we knew about it for. years and years. We just had no real reason to get any sort of vaccine to it because, you know, it's, we've known about it for years and years. It just went crazy to how strong it doesn't
Starting point is 01:04:58 mean that there's not a neurovirus that could just mutate and all of a sudden we've got some crazy strains of it. Oh, please no, we're all going to be shitting ourselves, the whole country. That's not good. It's just how, you know, I don't want to say, the thing that I think now, I don't ever want to say I want anybody to die. Don't take me wrong here. I think this, in In medicine, in medicine, we might have gotten complacent in the 2000s, where we were like, well, we're so strong, you know, the underdog viruses aren't going to hit us at all, and then all of a sudden, boom, then we get something. Now we know, at any given time, no, as a matter how cocky we are in the medical world,
Starting point is 01:05:36 we could get a virus that just kicks our ass, and we need to be ready for it. We need, and that's why research is so important in all of the different areas. And nobody wants to hear this, that a lot of big pharma money is because of research. Things are expensive because of other things. Again, I talked to people who complain about drug prices, and yes, they are out of control, but you've got to remember, for every one drug that gets on the market, there's 10 that they sank millions of dollars in, and it did nothing. So you're still paying down the road.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And I'm only slightly apologist for this, like, because granted, don't get me wrong. I put in our little discord every couple of days about how there's a drug that should not be $800 a tablet, and it is. And stuff like that, that stuff is the overreaching greed. but there are certain drugs like your everyday drugs are expensive for a reason now um yeah i don't want to get into the whole economy or everything but i just you know sorry that was a dan no no no this is a tangent but you know what i like about it here's what i like is you brought up our little discord room and here's what i love about that room brian and i basically get to go to a medical convention anytime we feel like it because we pop in there and dan's got this to say about this and this and this and then dr tollbert will pipe in and say well on the patient level this and this and this it's an amazing place place because that can also evolve into hey the new marvel game's real good you guys should play it like exactly it's an amazing discord no one else is invited it's four of us sorry everybody eff off it's the best place ever to be in there yeah that's what we're saying it's a you know it's sad little private
Starting point is 01:07:04 club um also is there a thing called a colad is it like a worse worse than a regular cold oh glad you brought that up it was a yeah it was a typo in one of the articles we read today and we didn't know if there was not a typo and there really is a co lad yeah is that such a Maybe I'm just, I don't think so. Out of the loop on the collad. Yeah. I don't see anything like definition-wise. I'm looking at Wikipedia, nothing, dictionaries, nothing.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I think they just typoed. That's why typos is so dangerous, especially in medicine. Intelligent things. It's what typos can be crazy. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yes. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:07:43 All right. Well, that's amazing. So, Dan, now that we've discussed the world's, communicable diseases. Let's now get into the world's communicable board games where they can catch colds from each other because they're yelling across the table. You just got back from something.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Tell us where you went. First of all, I'm really curious about that. We call it, it's basically just kind of like a friend con, but we call it Motor CityCon because I go up to Detroit. And I've talked about River Valley Glassworks in the past and Fleet the Dice game. Those guys, Matt Riddle, Ben Pinchback, and Adam Hill, they all live right outside of Detroit,
Starting point is 01:08:13 like kind of like up around Oakland or so in Detroit. So we started this. It's funny. We started his right sort of COVID because we all met at a hotel that was kind of halfway between us. And then we just decided to now we're just going to fly up to Detroit every year. So every year now for the last three or four years, I fly up there, a bunch of buddies come. And we just play games for like four days. It's kind of like a local con. And it's kind of in the, you know, we just kind of go to their house.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Guys just show up. We just play games for like four days. So I just flew back yesterday from that. The good thing about that is those guys, like a couple of those guys that come, they have games that I don't have or games that I just can't find. and stuff like that. So I've got two of them today. Now, I was going to give you, Brian, a real heavy one. I'll probably throw that in our Discord
Starting point is 01:08:54 because it's a new hotness. It's really good. But I have two kind of lighter games. So these are really two Scott games, but I think Brian will like one a little more than Scott because of the theme. Is it because the rules are more complicated than the rules for my games?
Starting point is 01:09:08 Is that why, Dan? Is that the reason? Normally a Scott game is a game that, and for anybody out there that's new to the show, welcome. Here's Dan Dan and Table. upman's rules for Scott and Brian games. So Scott games are games. A lot of times
Starting point is 01:09:21 they're kind of more entry-level games or family type games and games that don't take more than an hour. And also the rules are like on one page. It's all right. I've accepted. I've accepted... Exactly. I've accepted my fate. It's totally fine. I don't mind. That doesn't mean that I don't think Scott would love a longer
Starting point is 01:09:37 game. But typically when Scott's going to break out a game with his family, he's not breaking out a setty, which is one of the new hotnesses. You know, you know, out to three reality. Yeah, I'm not playing Cleveland Haven with like seven people around a table at my house. That's not happening.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Guarantee. And then a Brian game is one that, you know, could be very thematic in what we call like the Ameritrash games where it's very, you know, maybe a little bit longer, a little bit wilder. It's going to take a little while to explain or even the heavier euros I kind of like to call a Brian game. Wait, hold on. Before we get past the
Starting point is 01:10:09 buried headline here, what does an Ameritrash mean? Ameritrash. But it feels like we could use that that phrase liberal levy these days what does it mean well and this is what's funny
Starting point is 01:10:21 about the industry too so like we used to call them Ameritrash all the time but you know there's negative connotation to that so now sometimes they'll call them Amera Thrat games so the Ameri Thrash games
Starting point is 01:10:32 are these kind of games that have like you know there may be like a bunch of things on the map you've got a lot of minis you've got a lot of cards you're rolling dice things are just blowing up
Starting point is 01:10:41 there's a lot of randomness to it so you're just like Euro games there's a little less randomness, you're pushing cubes. You may not even talk for the next two hours. Marathon James is like, I just took out your cracking, Brian! You know, you're doing stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Trash is a verb and not as a noun. Yes. Yeah, and that's why they kind of make a threat because it's all fighty, fighty, and just stuff is blowing up, you know, just everywhere. Seamon has a lot of those type games and just a lot of those big and a lot of big, you know, hunking
Starting point is 01:11:11 miniatures that people paint, stuff like that. It's just a lot of fun to to play those type games. This one today, I'm going to start off with the Scott and Brian game. Now, this one is called, and this is what's cool about when you go to kind of little minicons like this is that maybe a guy you haven't seen in the year, he happened to be at another convention in Denver and somebody had this game or he found it out of a friendly local game store that he didn't realize it was really going to be good.
Starting point is 01:11:36 So the first one I'm going to talk about is actually Redwood. This is a game where the theme is about going into the community or going into the wilderness and taking pictures. that's all you're doing you're not thrashing anything you're just taking pictures but what's really cool is it has this visual spatial element to it now you have your guy that's on this kind of round where there's like five biomes and you have a uh your photographer that's going out there now your photographer is on the map it's pretty cool it's a little neoprene thing on a but like you have a little neoprene button on the bottom where you know so when you put it on a map you're not really move it's not moving around it's stationary and then you have
Starting point is 01:12:11 these red little kind of plastic pieces i guess they're uh like flimsy plastic plastic You know, they're bendable plastic. And what you're doing is you're picking one of these patterns. There's like five or six patterns out there that are different distances and sometimes shapes. That's where you're moving to. So that is where when you put it out there, then you're kind of moving. It kind of clicks into your base. Then you're moving around.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And then where the other big circle is, is where you're putting your dude. Cool. Do you see what I mean? Like with the red ones? And Scott, if you search enough, there's one that looks like a peen. I'm sure you can find that one. I like a peen. Let's see what I can find.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I love a peat. I was at Costco yesterday, and they had these beans that look like the font they used look like peen. That was pretty funny. Peen beans, sure. I can't find the peen, but continue on. Go ahead. So when you get to a specific spot, now you're using the kind of the white pieces that you may see in somebody's pictures. And that's the picture that you're taking.
Starting point is 01:13:08 So you're trying to get either flowers, trees, or animals into your projection. and you have to have them fully into the piece you pick. So you're trying to, and depending on which, you know, where you're pointing, you may, there's these cards that are kind of like, they're kind of like a wilderness like backdrop cards. And they have a certain amount of boxes on them, which is how many things you want. So you may be, you know, you may have one wilderness box that has three boxes on it or maybe have two.
Starting point is 01:13:36 So you're trying to get two pieces, you know, you may have to, you know, an animal and a flower or maybe you're trying to get three, three different things in there. And then there's little cards that come up. that kind of change of scoring. But the whole thing about it is you're trying, you can't touch these, these other pieces like where you're going or the photography thing. So sometimes you're like, you grab a piece and you're like, oh, crap, it's not big enough. Like the swath of it is not big enough to get what I wanted or it's not just quite long enough to get where you want to be. So it's basically like kind of line of sight cone type thing in a video game even where you don't have line of sight so you can't capture the image, right?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Exactly. And you can't go through, when you're moving, you can't go through an animal or another person. And when you're taking a picture, you're not supposed to go, you can't go through another person. You know, you don't want another, I don't want Brian to my picture. Right. You know, you don't want anybody else. This is wild that this is a physical, like the fact that this is a physical game and it's doing that mechanic is crazy to me. Yeah, it's a possible.
Starting point is 01:14:36 They put out a way to physically do line of sight in a board game. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Without having walls, without actually hitting physical walls that you'd need, you know, in D&D to be able to say, oh, you can't attack Cobalt because you can't see it. And there are like, you know, people that play miniature games, they're used to these type of, like, little pieces because these are in miniature games. I think they even had some stuff like this.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Brian, you played X-Wing back in a day. I think there's even things like this where you're doing different maneuvers with, like, things like that. X-wing, like the video game X-wing? Like the PC game? It was a tabletop game, X-wing. Was it based on the game, like the old, yeah, flight sims? Well, I don't know if it was based on the old video game, but it was. It was a dogfight game.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Yeah, I mean, maybe it was. It was a card-based. Because I'd love those games. Oh, my gosh. I didn't play the board games, but, yeah, it's really good. So, yeah, so that's Redwood, like I, he just whipped it. I've never heard of this game, and it's amazing how awesome it is. It's a beautiful, beautiful game, too.
Starting point is 01:15:41 The pieces are beautiful. real painterly, your figures are cool. Just real nice. Nice package. Yeah, and I sometimes hate talking about games that I don't know if anybody's going to be able to find him out there. So hopefully if you're interested in this game, hopefully there's a copy on Amazon or anything, and it's not too expensive, but it's a great, great game. Awesome. So the one that I think, Scott, you would love this.
Starting point is 01:16:02 And this brings up an interesting thing. I mean, we don't have to get into this. This is kind of like the difference between, like, is the game fun or is it the group you're playing fun? This game is called The Gang. it was very much hotness kind of at GenCon, and I've been wanting to get my hands on it. So this is, now waiting for this, this is one of the weirdest explanations you'll ever get.
Starting point is 01:16:18 This is cooperative Texas Holden. Whoa. I'm already interesting because I... There's such a thing. I love Holden. This sounds great. What an interesting idea. How does that work?
Starting point is 01:16:30 Yeah. So what you're doing is everybody, so there's these four different color chips. So there's chips, let's just say we're playing four players. There's white chips, yellow chips, orange chips, and red chips. and those represent rounds of the game. So now if you know Texas Holden, the first thing you're going to do
Starting point is 01:16:45 is you're going to get your pocket cards. You're going to get your two cards. Now, what we're trying to do is by the end of the round when all the cards are out there, we have to predict who has the worst hand and who has the best hand, and obviously the first, second, third, fourth hand. Now, you can't really, like, you can talk,
Starting point is 01:17:01 but you can't say anything about your hand. Like, I can't say, well, that nine looks really good out. You can't say hard. Yeah. Yeah. So, but as you're betting, you're getting a little bit of information. You can be like, well, I think I'm, you can say things like, I think I'm in the two, three zone.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Like, I think I'm in that range. Or I really think I'm the number four. Like, I really think I have the highest card. And then when the flop comes out, you're going to be getting chips again. You're not betting. You're just getting chips for information. So when that flop comes out, like, Brian, you may have gone from one to all of a sudden the flop comes out.
Starting point is 01:17:29 You're like, I'm number four without a doubt. And we're like, oh, well, that gives us a lot of information. And then as you're playing, when you get to the last round after the turn and the river comes out each time you're getting more chips. The only ones that really matter are those red chips at the very end. So now you're kind of like, all right, this matters. This is whether we win or lose. It's the first to three, either you get them all right or the three you get them all wrong.
Starting point is 01:17:54 So either you win as a group or loses a group. But there's also an advanced variant that after you play, after you play it a few times when you're not playing with these other variants, I don't want to say it gets easy, but it gets easier because you know kind of, everybody has a feeling of how everybody's ranking their hands pre-flop. Because that's a big thing. Like, is, is Queen, is Queen 9 suited better than a pair of sevens? Sure.
Starting point is 01:18:17 You know, or is, you know, 8, 9 suited better than a pair of seven, you know, some of, like how everybody views those things. And I know there's math out there and things are or not better, but I'm not worried about that. It's how your group does it. Because you're going to have people that are poker studs and are people that just maybe just heard about, you know, kind of know the ranking. There's the, the co-op aspect is what's freaking me out because I'm, I'm a huge fan of when, like, Bilalra, which is a massive hit on all platforms this last year. It's an incredible game.
Starting point is 01:18:44 But what I love about Ed and other games like it is that they've meshed in these like poker mechanics into kind of a different take. Like, oh, we're going to play differently here. But this sounds like, no, it's hold them, but you can't play alone. You have to have help. And that's wild. What a wild idea that is. And looks compact.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Like, looks like it just fits in a small little box with a deck. A couple of decks cards. So what happens in the advanced version is if you happen to win one of the rounds, like say if you get it, ever, you get it right, then you flip over one of these, you know, bad cards. And it tells you you have to do this or that. Like, for example, it may say, all right, you don't get to use the chips in round one.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You just go straight to the flop. Yeah. So you're not getting any information. So some of them are not all that hard, but some of them get pretty, pretty hard. And if you fail one of the rounds, you can flip over one of the good cards. And what that is, is it may say, okay,
Starting point is 01:19:37 you know one person just one person may tell the whole group one of his cards something like I'm pretty sure that's like a card in there so something that's just it just helps you out a little bit but it's very interesting because I've heard people say that you know their group reading get into it they were two heavier gamers and they just
Starting point is 01:19:53 were just pushing around chips I'm like we had when we played with four players when you're succeeding there are high five jumping around moments and when we played with six more player job obviously gets really hard when we played with six we were screaming how much fun we were screaming when we got it right oh and i mean i can't tell you we played it
Starting point is 01:20:13 ice with four players then we were like all right we got to bring the other guys in so we had a we got a group of six we played it four times we just couldn't stop playing it and each time is like at least three hands like you're playing basically best of five win or lose we just kept playing because it was just so much fun now does that mean like is one group you know it's group dependent because like if you have somebody like it's it's probably no secret to anybody that i'm allowed and and jumping around having a fun guy like if you if you have the quiet as you should be exactly but if you're and there's nothing wrong with being the quiet person and sometimes people are just quieter and they're because we had a good mix of like raucous and quiet people playing but everybody had fun is that the group
Starting point is 01:20:53 or is it the game so that's a very interesting question to think about but this game was awesome we had so much fun i can't tell you how much fun this one is i think you guys would even again you could bring somebody in it's never played poker because obviously there's cards you can see it in somebody's where, like, the cards will tell you what the rank are. Like, there's a card that shows for the ranks of poker. And you could teach poker, especially if you're not betting money.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I mean, you're just trying to, you know, and then as you play a couple of times, it's pretty quick. Yeah, you don't, it's not a hard game to grasp. It's the, the tricky part about poker is like the late game,
Starting point is 01:21:25 you know, people who are really good at poker facing it and knowing when to do certain things and when to lose and look like you're losing. Like, that's all the meta game. No one to hold them and no one to fold them. Exactly. That guy.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Like, there's skill in that, right? But for regular people, Holden's not like hard rules, get in there real quick. And when you see, in kind of like betting, even when you're playing betting, like there are people that are so good at poker, they know exactly what you have and you haven't showed them a thing. When we were playing, there was a couple of us that would be like just looking at how you quote-to-quote bet or how you take the chips. I'm like, oh, Brian's sitting there with a Jack 6.
Starting point is 01:22:00 I've got, you know, a higher, I've got a pair. so I know he's got kind of a better you know he's going to because of the board he's got a better high two pair than I have like it's amazing how you kind of you can kind of deduce that just from the way other people are talking in in group think what's the other game is a bridge where you kind of give
Starting point is 01:22:20 subtle or you can give subtle hits to your opponent you're cheating in a trick-taking game like spades or bridge yeah you're like man I didn't pay bridge I'm actually proud of fun is what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, actually, I don't play a lot of, I haven't played a lot of
Starting point is 01:22:37 Spades and a lot of trick-taking games and most of the ones that you play like that are games like this are not, they're not co-op, but when you're playing Spades, it's usually a four-player game, you have a partner, and then people can get, you know, if you're not looking for it, people can get really creative, you're like, I got to do, got to do some yard work next week and, you know, like, oh, spades, you're going to play Spade, you're going to play a spade, you know, it's a double, it's up, you know, people get a little bit nuts like that. One thing I do want to say before we get out of here, I think I saw, and I want to tell everybody out there,
Starting point is 01:23:07 and I don't mean to bring the show down, but it's very important. One of the designers, I believe, after the game came out, committed suicide. So I want everybody out there. If you are not feeling right, get help. I know it's hard to ask for help. There's plenty of people, especially if you listen to this, you're in the tadpool community. Anybody out there is willing to talk. So I know mental health is a hard thing to talk about.
Starting point is 01:23:30 but it's easy for me to say get help but at the very least talk to somebody absolutely yes yeah I agree that's always a good message always good advice yeah Dan's got good advice about what shots are doing in your arm and what
Starting point is 01:23:44 to do if you're feeling bad and also if you need a good board game he's got ideas on that that's why Dan is so versatile thank you Dan for your versatility you're the Swiss Army knife of guests on the show thanks those two games by the way just real quick the gang and
Starting point is 01:24:00 That was the poker-based one. And then the other one is called Redwood, which looks amazing. Yeah, both of these looks fantastic. That looks really cool. What a gorgeous looking game, too. Yeah, if any of you guys have it and want to bring it to Vegas, bring it to Vegas. We'll be happy to play it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Oh, God, especially the gang. That looks like it would be great for Vegas. Yeah. And I'm still working on it. I've got the politics of working in the world. Yeah. To get PTO and figured everything out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:28 PTO is. Well, we need you. We need you, Dan. Yeah, I really want to do you. It's Patrice time off is what PTO stands for. And let's get it going. Do you need us to fake a note from your doctor? Yeah, we can do it. Well, I'll just call Jerry. He's going to tell me. That's right. While you're at, it gets some oxycodone and whatever else you need from the guy. Just kidding. Don't do that. I'll bring all that. I'll bring all the good stuff out there. Sweet. Have a fantastic month. We'll see you next time. And hopefully we'll see you in Vegas. We'll see you soon. Love you boys. Take care.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Hi, Dan. See you. all right always good to hear from dan so good all right you guys i got an announcement to make here here you go our prize package has been primarily decided upon that doesn't mean new things won't be added they probably will be but our film festival 30 second film festival prize package now includes stickers prints previous tms Vegas challenge coins possibly multiples if i can find them But at least one. Yep, there's one from last year. We've done one every year except one, I think.
Starting point is 01:25:33 And I still have a couple from last year and maybe one from the year before. You might get two. Custom drawn print from me, a custom drawn print from Carter, a winning video repost on the YouTube, the TMS YouTube feed. So you'll be able to get everybody out there in the world. People to see the YouTube channel. We'll get to see that. TMS coffee mug 3D print hand painted by Brian. Look at that little guy.
Starting point is 01:25:57 You see that? It's beautiful. Love it. This is the big one, too. This is like almost coffee cup sized. Yeah, that one's like not the little magnety, you know, tiny one, but the big one. No, this one's a biggie.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Yeah. You may not drink out of it, but it looks like you could. Don't drink out of it. No, don't. Coverville T-shirt, winner's choice of what's available in their size. So, you know, that'll be decided when you win. America's top top podcaster swag bundle and, oh, I already mentioned Carter's print.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Those are all the things thus far. big physical package lots of cool stuff there will be more added but it's enough to get you going I'll put these up on the site as well so it'll all be in one place when you go to submit your videos and I'll do that today sometimes so watch for that please get your sent your entries in frogpants.com slash film fest it's the TMS 30 second film festival yours could be the winner ask for it by name ask for it by name speaking of which somebody who did not leave their name sent this text in Brian they said Earlier this week on a post show of the morning stream,
Starting point is 01:26:58 you and Brian were talking about taking carpet off of stairs and putting hardwood on. Can you elaborate on that since the post show started halfway through the conversation? Yeah, that was the day I lost a bunch of the post show. Yeah, and it's not hardwood. It is like laminate. So basically one of my clients is a company that makes these treads that go over your, like you basically rip off your carpet and they go over your subfloor on your stairs to continue whatever laminate look you've got for the floor continues down the stairs,
Starting point is 01:27:30 which looks really good. And the fact that it's laminate means it's not slippery like hardwood. There's a little bit of bounce to it. So like it actually, you know, your foot doesn't go off of it. It kind of stays on it. But yeah, it's like a client of mine we were just talking about it. I think I even have somewhere I've got an example of one of them. but trendy stair treads is the is the site um it's pretty cool we had somebody freak out about
Starting point is 01:27:58 the they were talking about like the hardwood they were saying basically like hardwood you're going to kill somebody you asshole yeah i think those are the words they used exactly i think he was saying that anything other than carpet is bad and i still don't quite understand why they would say that other than i guess if you're i don't know somebody who hurt themselves on a hardwood staircase i totally understand it uh I broke my coxics on a carpeted staircase so it can happen with anything. You know, carpet or hardwood or laminate or whatever, but, yeah. Did I tell you, you know how I was telling you my knee hurts?
Starting point is 01:28:35 Like I did something to my patella or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I may have hairline cracked it like a little crack. Oh, no. Yeah. Which they can't do anything about it. I just have to be careful with it and ice it and let it heal. Did you, you got an x-ray or something, I hope, just to make sure.
Starting point is 01:28:51 I haven't. And even if you did, I mean, it's just going to be a waste of money because they're just going to say, hairline, oh, there's nothing you can do. I mean, I could request a cast, but that's like hip to foot. F that business. I ain't doing that. You definitely don't want that. I'm just going to be careful. It's feeling better today. Just to make sure it's only hairline, I guess, is the question. Well, the way to, yeah, there's no something that's going to get worse. So the trick, the trick is if you have a bunch of swelling, that's usually some other problem. If you have bruising or any kind of discoloration, that's another problem. But if you're
Starting point is 01:29:19 getting no swelling and it just hurts right there it's either this patelanitis i forgot the name or it's a hairline and if it's a hairline you just it just has to heal because it can't do shit so i'm going to wait until if it gets worse i'm going in but i don't want it so far it's getting better it's improved every day don't be let's not be typical dudes scott let's you know let's let's let's go to the doctor when we should go to the doctor and not wait on stuff Yeah. If it was getting worse, I would do that. But it's getting better. And I'd really rather not spend $600 or whatever the hell are going to charge me.
Starting point is 01:29:58 All right. That is it for today. We'll be back tomorrow. All right. So come back with your Wednesday pants, everybody. And we'll do Wednesday things. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all the stuff you're going to need with one exception, at least for now. And that is this song by Brian Ibitt.
Starting point is 01:30:16 What is it? Well, it's not by you. that's right from you well they want it to be i mean you know sure just can't get on my horse just can't get on the horse all right um this is going out to gregg aka kip zinger love it we got a lot of requests this week we have a lot of birthdays a lot of uh a lot of our community is um celebrating birthdays this week but this one is not this one um i love this tms family with the inauguration happening yesterday and with all of us trying to keep positive all i have to say is If this A-hole of the shitty horse he wrote it on.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Oh, great. Thanks a lot, Greg. I was trying to keep it clean today. Not clean, but, you know what it is. No, no, no. We blame Greg. We blame Greg. That's totally fine.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Whatever. Greg can say what we're going on. Even said, you can amend that part. I won't be offended. You could eliminate it, blah, blah, blah. But whatever. Yeah. I had to get in here.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Can I please request your favorite rage against the machine cover song? After this, let's all take a deep breath. Carry on and take care of each other. Thank you for all that you do. Greg, a.k.a. Kipzinger's great. Yeah, it is great. I can't agree with that more. It's fantastic opinion. Boy, my voice is still just so scratch. I can just hear it. This is by a ska band called
Starting point is 01:31:32 The Apples from their album Buzin' About. They don't call it killing in the name. They just call it killing. Here are The Apples. Thank you. Yeah! Oh! Hi! Phee-phee! Oh!
Starting point is 01:32:22 Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha! Ha-ha! Ha-ha! Oh! Wow!
Starting point is 01:33:12 I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be a lot of the I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. We're going to be able to be a bit more than a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit.
Starting point is 01:33:45 I'm going to be a bit of a bit of a bit of a and a Oh! Woo! Woo! Oh! Woo! Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 01:34:00 Oh! Ooh! Hmm. You know what I'm going to be. I'm going to be able to be it. Yay! Yay! Yay!
Starting point is 01:35:09 Hey! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-h-ha-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hyeh. Yay! I'm going to be able to be a few you know how to be it. I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to see you. I'm a lot of the
Starting point is 01:35:33 I'm going to be a big of the I'm going to be. You're going to be a big of you. Oh, looks like someone just got their ears caught in the audio cookie jar at frogpants.com. Whatever you do, don't cut that wire.

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