The Morning Stream - TMS 2767: Earigation
Episode Date: January 22, 2025Liberace Dice Clay. Boris Smellgood. If I had a bigger wiener. Tell Me Why-EEE! Scrawnching Celery. I'm Here For The Slippers. It's an old nose now. That's not a skull, that's poop. I Don't Like Vomit...ing Seeeeeeeeeeds. What's with these dogs today? Organic Bears. Boy Band Appreciation Day with Dunaway. Hey Wizard - I wanna be waterproof. Signed, The Wicked Witch Of The West. Never Clone Alone with Tom. Watching you watch what you're watching with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What is smell good?
If I had a bigger wiener
Tell me whyee
Scronchy celery
I'm here for the slippers
It's an old nose now
That's not a skull
That's poop
I don't like vomiting seeds
What's with these dogs today
Organic Bears
Boy Band Appreciation Day with Dunaway
Hey Wizard
I want to be waterproof
Signed the Wicked Witch of the West
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Watching you watch what you're watching with Randy
And more on this episode
Of the morning stream
Oh, you've noticed my friends.
Wonderful.
Aren't their guns very large?
Tremendously impressive.
They're here to keep the peace, of course.
I don't like you.
I wouldn't go to a rat fight with you.
So now you know.
I'm sorry to hear that.
The morning stream.
This car.
Smells Weird.
Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Wednesday, January 22nd, 2025.
I'm Scott Johnson.
That's Brian Abbott, hi, Brian.
Hello.
Good day to you, sir.
Good day to you as well, sir.
I hope you're comfortable.
Let us know if you need anything.
Fantastic.
Hello, everybody.
It's nice to see you all.
It's a Wednesday.
Welcome to Hump Day.
Time for us to midweek this shit.
Sorry, I got a thing that's about to fall over.
Got to move it before.
Oh, that sounded dangerous.
Yeah.
Broken the skull?
No, although the skull's still sitting here.
Carter and I had this idea yesterday, and I don't know if we'll do it or not, but take this and embed it in like a fake, like fake earth.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Oh, like make a, like make a base for it so it looks like it's getting partially uncovered by.
Yeah.
By time.
By time, exactly.
the earth around it is
falling away and revealing
the skeleton. Yeah, like we've dusted
it off and we've found the first victim of
the robot uprising or whatever.
Stuff like that. Yeah.
Might do that. It might just do that. Give it a little base
and hang it up somewhere
instead of having this weirdness. Because that's gross.
Nobody wants to see inside. Look at that.
No, no. It takes it really like
you see inside and it's like, oh, that's not a skull
at all. That's poop.
That's poop. That's gross.
That's gross poop.
Hey everybody
Oh speaking of which
Gosh dang it
My freaking dog this morning
So Rainer has this tendency
If anybody drops sunflower seeds
The shells of them
Which no one's trying to do
But occasionally one will get loose
She'll eat it
Because she's stupid
And it will make her throw up
Every time
She'll throw up every time
It doesn't matter how many times
It's not like she looks at it and goes
The last 400 times I ate one of those
I threw up
But this is I've got a really good feeling
about it this time though
She's so stupid.
So this morning, I wake up to her bed and just complete vomit disarray in there.
So right after this show, I got to go, you know, deal with that.
Oh, you got to go deal with all that?
I told Kim, she don't do it.
I'll take care of it.
She's like, you sure?
I said, yes.
And she said, okay.
So now I have to make sure I do it so that I don't have to have that conversation later, you know.
It's got to be killing her, though, to have it to leave it this lung.
Oh, it drives her crazy.
She hates it.
She's like, this is so gross.
I couldn't do it.
I'd be like, no, if you're not going to get to it for an hour and a half, I'm going to do it.
You and her both, she's like really, like what I'm hoping is because Phoebe's here,
so she's going to be busy with her, and I'm thinking that'll distract her and everything will be fine.
And then when I'm done, I can go, blim, bam, bloom.
Oh, and then my daughter shows up with Phoebe this morning.
She's got this, it looked like an e-cigarette.
I'm like, what are you doing?
She goes, I go, is that a weed stay?
She goes, no, dad, it's a thing.
she started to explain it. Anyway, she bought this off the TikTok shop. It's literally this camera stick
and an app on your phone that you use to go into your ear and clean your ear out, but you get to see
the whole process. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's gross. I have one of those, Scott. Yeah? And I don't care
how clean you keep your ears. It's still gross. It is something that will wreck you and you'll use it
once and never ever want to use it again yeah that's what i told her i says i want one of these but
not for my ears i want to use it for like i don't know just like my keyboard exactly like oh i dropped
a screw back behind the this computer there you go now i can use this to like like scope around and
grab it yeah you yeah you uh uh oh yeah i saw we did it for his hot second in carter's air
and it's the last time i ever want to see that i don't want to see it anymore yeah i know it's
really gross. It doesn't matter. You keep your ears clean. No, it doesn't matter. You look in there and all of a sudden you are climbing a Manhattan sewer line down into the depths of hell.
You expect a swarm of rats to come around the corner. Totally. It's, yeah. I don't like it. But anyway, I'll say, I will say this. I have new respect for ears, nose, and throat doctors. I have respect for them. Yeah. Because you always think like, oh, the colonoscopy guy, he does a hard job or the dentist.
always in people's mouths and it's still true it's like a those are
difficult jobs and a difficult place to be in a human being
but now I'm thinking ears are underrated as a gross place to be
they really are and they get in there with that little
that little device where they're like okay all right everything looks good
and I'd be like yeah they're like everything looks good
and by good I mean horrific but in a natural way
it's really gross
and then freaking boomer
here's a whole other thing
what's with the dogs today
so boomer shows up a couple days ago
with a half of her
well upper like below her eye
and just above her
her snout
is that what we call that on a dog
muzzle snout
muzzle is good yeah snout
muzzle I guess snout I think more pig
yeah I do too so what would that be
dogs might not prefer the term snout
I know those are pigs thank you
I don't want to get, I don't want to offend any dogs here.
Do I look like a pig to you?
Hey!
Hey! You guys should sign up to our, uh, our Discord, or our, our Patreon and enjoy the Andrew
Dice Clay conversation we had this morning.
Tons of Andrew Dice Clay talk this morning.
Um, but anyway, she, it's just like this hard, bulging thing.
And her, like a, like a tumor.
That's what it felt like.
But it was hard as a rock.
Like not even, it felt like bone.
Oh, and she's not whimpering.
Or bugging her all.
You push on it.
She's just kind of just taking it.
So I'm like, what is this?
It's like allergies.
She kick up some dirt in her eye.
Like, what is this?
Took her to the vet.
She has got, she cracked a tooth all the way up into the root of the thing.
And it's infected.
I don't know why it doesn't hurt her, but it's infected.
So now we got to do that.
Is it a shard?
No, it's like an abscess or a.
Yeah, it's full on like, like, infected.
infection. Yeah. Oh, poor thing.
So they're going to go take her tooth out next week.
So we got that going on.
And I also said, they said, okay, next week.
And I'm like, really, a week? That thing's like, you sure you don't want to like do it now?
Like, it looks bad.
I said, oh, with dogs, you know, you're fine. You can wait a week.
I'm like, okay, fine, we'll wait a week.
I hope it doesn't spread to her freaking brain by then.
So now I'm just waiting for the third dog to do something stupid.
Yeah, exactly. These legs come in threes.
And they say she probably broke her teeth on the bigger.
dog's bones that she will sometimes
steal. So Ripley
has very hard bones.
Thank you for the other dog
size. I was like, on the other dog's bones.
Oh my God. What kind of
madhouse is
going on here? You should see what's on
the floorboards here, man. We got a
real problem going.
But anyway, real fun stuff.
And I don't know what it's going to cost me. It's going to be
way too expensive. She's
Nick's dog, but Nick's broke
so he ain't paying for it.
So I don't know how, I mean, I'm going to have to pay for it, but I'm sure it's going to be like a grand or something.
I don't know.
I don't know what dogs.
I don't know what people charge for dog stuff.
We rarely go in there.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It can get expensive depending on how invasive or how involved they have to get with it.
Isn't it annoying, though, that the reason all three of these dogs ever have any issues is because they're all being stupid.
Like it's right.
And eating things they shouldn't be eating.
And, yeah.
How would they survive in the wild?
If the end times come, you know, it's like at Chernobyl, everybody has to bug out of the city and the dogs are just left there to whatever.
How are they going to live?
Hold on.
I've got to clean up all these sunflower seeds shells.
I'll catch up with you guys go ahead.
Put Rainer in like Texas Roadhouse and let her eat all the peanuts off the floor.
I guess they don't do that anymore, do they?
They quit doing that, I think.
No, they don't.
They give you, yeah, instead of having the bins when you walk in, at least the most recent time I've been to one was maybe six months ago.
a year ago.
Instead of the bins in the front area, they now give you a little bag that's got 20, 30 peanuts in it.
Oh.
And you take it to your table and you open the bag and you eat the peanuts and put them right in the bucket, the shell bucket that they provide for you.
So they don't let you throw it on the floor anymore in there?
No.
Okay.
What are five guys does that same thing?
Probably do.
Five guys?
No.
Five guys still has the shells, like the bins out in the open.
and the scooper and the cardboard boats and you same as it ever was look at them dude
look at them defying the not the law but defying the needs they just put a thing on their door
that says hey people we've got shells we've got peanuts here so don't even don't even
loiter outside if you've got a peanut allergy they should have a fake statistic up on the poster
that says one out of every five guys has a peanut allergy they should say that
really lean into the five guys part of it, you know?
Four guys and one guy that's having a hard time breathing.
That's right.
I haven't eaten there in a while because their prices have gone way up.
Oh, have they?
Way up.
You know, everybody had a post-pandemic bump.
They had a massive one, and I don't like it.
No, sir, I don't.
So I haven't been there in a long time.
Hey, we got a message from Jeff Sire up in Canada, and here's what he has to say.
Oh, Canada!
This was on the peyote shortage tip that we talked about.
yesterday.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Okay.
The Native Americans can't get enough pey cactus and the white people are taking it all.
Like we do.
We do this with the natives.
We come in.
We take your shit and then we...
And then we say, here's some land, build something.
Yeah, we say...
Move your reservation here.
This is, there's no river or anything.
That seems perfect.
Yeah, it seems great.
Enjoy it out here in the middle of nowhere.
Have fun.
Yeah.
So here's what he says.
He sent this to you as well, I think.
After today's talk about peyote shortages,
I thought I would recommend a documentary
that you guys would find interesting.
It's on Netflix,
and it's called How to Change Your Mind.
It's based on a book by the same name,
also read by Michael Polin.
By a weird twist,
he is the brother of Tracy Pollan,
Michael J. Fox's wife.
Is it Tracy Pollan?
Paulin.
Tracy Pollan.
Tracy Pollan.
Okay.
That A is throwing me.
He's a legit journalist
and wrote a very famous book
on the food industry. It's about hallucinogenics
bringing, sorry, being used, he put
bring, being used in psychiatry.
Each episode is about a different drug
and the pey one touches on the overuse by white
people. It's not really a drug doc, more
of a medical industry look at drugs
really good, says Jeff.
I have to check it out. Is that just, that's not a
Canadian-only Netflix thing, is it? Let's find out
it's called how to
change your mind. Yeah,
how to change your mind.
Change your mind.
It says here, there we go.
Oh, I know this dude.
Kim loves this guy.
He's, he's, yeah, he's the food science guy.
Hold on.
Oh.
Oh, I've heard this dude a hundred times.
Do other things.
Maybe I've even seen this.
Kim loves this dude.
Oh, okay.
He looks like Larry David if Larry David was normal.
Right, a clean cut Larry David.
Yeah, something about that always reminded you to him.
Anyway, I'll check it out.
his other stuff he was in he's in um let's see yeah cooked i like these so it's really like
it's not how to change like it's not based on his initial description i'm like oh change your mind
about things that you believe like about the peyote and no it's like how to alter your mind yeah alter
being a sit in for change the physiology yeah silas sylis sylvan uh mdma mescalin i love it all the good
stuff um yeah yeah the thing of the show i was thinking of that i'd seen before
is the show he did called Cooked in 2016.
It's very good.
I would highly recommend that.
It's quite good.
I think it's based on his books or whatever.
Oh, he has a newer one called Food Inc. too.
So he wrote Food, Inc.
And there's a new documentary that's out now.
All right, then.
That's cool.
Well done.
Michael Polon, pollen.
Pollan.
And I hope Michael J. Fox is eating well because you're influencing him every time you guys have Thanksgiving.
I'm just taking a lot of mushrooms, Doc.
Check this out.
Nehro yesterday I said that I saw
I saw some food at Costco that looked like
they were supposed to say bean, but it looked like peen to me.
I was wrong.
It was actually beans, or sorry, pairs,
but still look like peen.
So here you go.
Oh, yeah, organic pears.
Okay.
That's pretty close to an end, dude.
That's all I'm saying.
Look at that thing.
Yeah, but you don't,
you wouldn't spell peens,
P-E-A-N.
Oh, that's a good point.
You wouldn't, would you?
P-E-E-N-S, yeah.
That's a good point, yeah.
There would be no A.
But I still think that ends a little suss.
That's all I'm saying.
It's closer to sing organic bears than it is to sing organic beans.
I don't trust anything but organic bears.
Yeah, that's the only bear.
Just organic bears, please.
Thank you.
If I'm going to eat a bear, organic all the way.
Farm to table, please.
That's right.
Well, anyway.
With that, Grizzly.
It is time for Brian Dunaway to join us, as you know.
As you know.
Yeah.
And let's see if he's around.
I know he is.
I've done my duty.
We had almost a perfect game last night at trivia.
We got every single question right all the way up until the last photo question when it just said, name this boy.
And it showed a picture of a blonde dude sitting there.
Let me see if I can find that exact picture.
Yeah.
Because I'd like to see
It's a famous boy or not famous person?
It's a famous boy, famous boy.
I'm all about the famous boys.
We'll see how well you do if I give you a photo that they gave us.
Where is it?
Where is?
I'm going to play this while you do that.
Yeah, yeah, please do.
Hey, Brian Dunaway.
What are you doing over there?
How are you doing?
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
How are you doing?
Doing all right.
We're doing it.
Okay.
We are going to, of course, play a game in a moment.
Brian's going to share with us a photo.
We're going to see if either of you, either you or I can recognize it.
Yeah, I can not find the photo that they use.
So I'm going to try and find one that is the same age.
So it's a famous kid.
It's a famous person.
Okay.
Oh, we're playing 20 questions.
Famous person.
This was our final question in trivia last night, and we were told to name this boy.
Is it a rock or a mineral?
Name him.
Yeah.
He looks really familiar to me.
Are you showing something somewhere, like on Discord?
We're showing it on screen and in Discord.
Yeah, I'll send you the camera, too.
Oh, yeah, this guy.
Yeah, I know this guy.
Yeah, how to name him?
I can't name him.
I know him, too, but I can't name him.
Who is it?
That's the guy.
That's the guy.
he looks like one of the
Morris
Boris smell good
he wasn't
he wasn't
he wasn't ice man in the X-Men movies
right
he was not
okay
um
famous actor
so far
so far two people are
are on the right
track in our chat room
but
still have nobody's provided a
he looks real fit he's like
he looks like an amalgamation
of several people do we know
oh stephanie got it then
then Leslie then Randy
I just realized this is a singer
but I don't know his name
it's Brian Latrell
from backstreet
Oh backstreet boy
Yeah we got so far as knowing
Oh yeah it's the short blonde kid
From Backstreet Boys
Not to be confused with the tall blonde kid
Who he think was Aaron Carter
Right
Or Nick Carter
Which one was in the
Oh shit now I don't know
Yeah
Nick Carter
The real problem is that shirt
I can't stop looking at the shirt.
The shirt is more famous than he is at this point.
So who was in, who am I thinking?
I'm thinking of the one of the Walbergs was in something.
The Donnie Walberg was in Backstreet.
Not the movies, like pre-movies.
New kids on the block.
That's it.
They all blend together.
I could only keep like,
I got so much boy band space in my brain, right?
We've got so much allocated for that.
I could keep boys to men separate.
Lichet has taken up so much of that room.
Yeah. Boysdomen was easy
to keep a separate. So was Minuto.
I could keep them separate.
Sure. Sure.
For obvious racial reasons, yes.
Okay.
But all the other ones blend together like a big white boy suit.
I mean, you know, you see, you see Timberlake, you see
Lance Bass, you see J.C.
Oh no, J.C. was in Backstreet Boys.
There has never been a boy band.
group that I did not at least have one song that I liked and sung yeah there we go yeah no that's
true I you know what I'm with you there there's a good one from each of them yes at least one and I've
definitely sang it advanced to it I want it that way is a is a banger it's a good song yeah I like it
tell me why why all right uh what are we doing oh we're going to bring in uh tally
I thought this was the game we got a little got a little sidetrack there all right this should work
I see her in the list.
That means I think she's on her way.
Tally.
Tally, are you there?
Can we hear you?
Hello?
Oh, no.
Taddy?
She's still ringing.
She is not connected.
I see it.
Oh, she's still.
You're right.
Rings of ringage.
There we go.
Tally, are you there?
Hello?
Now we have the rings of speakage, but no.
It's been so long.
I'm like, I almost enjoy.
Tally.
Well, we're closer now.
My expectation is
There will be no talent
We can sort of hear you
You're really quiet though
Let's see
I'll max you
I have you at 200%
But that you're still kind of quiet
Max
Okay
Well
Is that
I don't know
I can't do anything
He can't do anything
I'm not moving
I just picture you sitting in a chair
And going I ain't moving
I ain't turning no buttons
I ain't clicking shit
It's just good
It's fine with me
We'll keep you on the quiet side
Uh, hey, uh, we finally made this happen. And I'm really glad that it happened because, uh, you've been trying forever to get in. And last week was a cluster F. So now this time you're really in. And Brian, you should explain to Talley how these, uh, games work and what she might be up to winning today. I will happily do all of that. It's time to play the Tad Pooley feud. I've surveyed the Tadpool on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Wow. I just,
trying to change it up a little bit. Talley, your job
is more important than ever because you're going to be working with one
of these chuckleheads. If your team wins,
you get a prize package. That includes
Cyrillim 3
and Colt Canyon.
Oh, Colt Canyon's awesome.
Col Cull Coney's good. What was it other thing?
Cyrillim 3.
I've heard of it. That's one I've
not heard of it. S-I-M-I-M-I-M. I was trying to see if it spells anything
backwards, but Miller is.
Colt Canyon's
legit, though. I love that game. It's really
good. Cool.
Great. Talley, I just want to say one quick thing. I love
how your little
slogan tag on your name is, does
Bruno Mars is gay?
Oh, God, that's a deep cut
for Game Grumps fans. I like it.
Great. I think that's great.
Because there's like an old article
that's like in horribly written English
that's literally called that. Like, does Bruno Mars is
The rumor comes out.
I've never heard of it before.
I think it's awesome.
That's amazing.
Oh, funny.
Well, there you go.
Brian, let's get to it and see how we do.
Let's get our fingers on these buzzers.
We asked 424 tadpullers to give their best answer to this.
Put your hands on your buzzers and answer this following question.
What trait would you ask for from the Wizard of Oz?
God.
I'm just
now formulating the question
myself in my head
I'm like what the hell
are you talking about tray
oh trait trait trait
yeah what tray
I'd like some
trays with that
what crate
what crate
I'm gonna
I'm gonna go with
invincibility
I don't know what else to say
sure sure
all right show me
invincibility
he doesn't give those
so I don't know why I thought of
but then
you're not let me
I should have asked for a brain.
Sure.
All right, let's see.
Show me brains.
Brains.
Yeah.
Two, number two answer on the board.
You have Talley as a partner, and the two of you are going to rock this thing.
Let's do it.
Yeah, there's only, you know, you only got the tin man, the scarecrow, and the lions.
So there's 10 answers up here.
So you know there have to be traits up here that aren't.
What about Dorothy?
Dorothy had a trait.
She wanted.
Did she?
What was her trait?
Yeah.
to be relocated.
Really?
I don't remember her needing a trait.
I think she was like,
I just want my dog and click my heels together
and get the F out of here.
I think that was her whole thing.
You've had the power to go home all along.
Talley, do you have a trait that we want to
throw up on the board here?
I don't know.
I mean,
he wasn't known for like handing out superpowers or anything.
That's what I thought was kind of weird.
He could, right?
Let's see.
I mean, he really couldn't do anything.
was kind of useless.
And since there are 10 of these,
there's got to be like a,
somebody's put something like super strength
or invisibility or some shit like that.
Why am I helping?
Yeah, I think along those lines.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah.
Tell you think we should go for the big three first
and then kind of go from there.
Yeah, well, I mean,
the question is,
what would you ask the Wizard of Oz?
Right.
The actual question is,
how did the Tadpole interpret this?
Correct.
Yep, very good.
You know how this works.
Yeah, you've been around this.
rodeo a couple times yeah they're probably so they think they're going to treat it just like like what's your favorite superpower that you'd ask for um right right invulnerability was that already asked yeah scots it invisibility no i said involuntrability i literally said that vulnerability yeah look at that look at that we squeezed at them and you and i and i merged invincibility and invulnerability into the same thing that was number 17 on the list by the way oh okay all right yeah so then we'll go flight
Yeah, flyer than gravity.
Correct.
The trait of lighter than gravity.
Ask him to defy gravity and then fly home back to Kansas.
Realize it kind of sucks there and then go back to Oz.
Yeah, no doubt.
There's color there in Oz.
You can make me like one of them than their monkeys, whiz.
Show me flight.
Oh, nice.
Good point.
Number six on the board.
Good points.
Eight points right now for Tally and Brian.
I love how Brian's first guest was his, almost his name.
Yeah, yeah, smart, smart.
Well, plus that in the fact, I'm constantly walking around whistling.
I don't know why everybody always assumes his brain,
but yeah, I always walk around whistling because all three of them,
it's all just the same, a variation of the same song,
everybody assumes them talking about brains, jerks.
I like it.
Um,
I could doodle doodle doodoo.
Collie, you have another answer?
If I only could fly like a monkey?
What are even the other two?
Oh, never mind, I know.
Oh, yeah, I don't know, Scott.
I won't you tell us?
Nope, you guys go ahead.
You and Talley got this.
What do you think, Talley?
You got another one?
I don't know.
What's the generic kind of?
I mean, the standard ones are courage was the other one, right?
Everybody's always looking for courage.
No, but it's one of the...
Well, no, but it's a trait is,
is to the point of the question.
It's like brains.
I don't think anyone's asking
for superpower brains.
Yeah, no.
Super intelligence is like
power. It's like, you know,
you get mutated and then
suddenly you understand, you know,
quantum physics.
But how about super strength like a Hulk?
That's courage, right?
You got about 25 minutes to play this game, folks.
I am
courageous and confident
that I can punch the crap out of you.
So, strength.
All right, strength.
Let's do it.
So what's our final answer?
Tully?
What do we say?
Strength.
Strength.
Okay.
All right.
Show me strength.
Isn't?
Oh, 10.
Strength is the longest single syllable word in the English language?
Yeah.
Is it really?
Stress or strength?
Yeah.
Strength.
Did you also bundle in pectoral muscles into strength?
Is it all like bundled together?
Peckx.
I mean, pectoral muscles, that's just part of the sex appeal.
Right, right.
Right.
Yeah.
Throb and pecks, baby.
All right, Talley, go ahead.
All right.
Strength, past tense, strength or scrunched is the longest single-sol.
If I only had some letters.
Scrunched?
Scrunched.
I don't know what scrunched means, but.
Like scrunched face, I guess.
Like, she scrunched her face?
Scrunch.
I think of that as more as scrunched, right?
What scrunched is a word?
All I'm hearing is squanched, like, from Rick and Morton.
Yeah, squanch.
That's what I'm hearing, too, from Rick and Morty.
Squanch.
To crackle, to crunch, or scransch is the definition of scroach.
Oh, to scrant.
Well, that clears it up.
Make a crushing noise to scrunch.
All right.
I like it.
Would you quit scrunching your celery?
I'm going to go scrunch a bag of salad.
Okay, we're playing a game.
Heck with swell.
Let's start using scrunch.
Yeah, I like it.
Screw swell.
All right.
We're playing a game.
Here, I'm going to scrunch some.
Hey, Brian, we only have 25 minutes.
That was a scrunch.
You hear it?
Oh, yeah, you're scrunching it, yeah.
Yeah, so let's say, uh, super speed, like the flash.
Super speed, good answer.
Good answer, good answer.
Show me super speed.
Oh, okay.
I'm gonna, super speed, not even, not even on the list, amazingly enough.
Yeah.
Oh, that's crazy.
They are wrong.
That's absolutely wrong.
Sure, sure.
Let's get courage out of the way.
Just do it.
All right.
Sure.
Show me de noive.
Number one answer on the board.
Yeah, but these are actual ones they had in the Oz thing, so I know people use them.
All right.
Brains, courage.
The other one was...
I really want to be a green lantern, I guess.
I don't know.
What is it?
Courage brains?
You know, what was...
Was it heart?
Well, it's...
No, of course not.
That's ridiculous.
Scott, so let's know what you just said.
I know.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
Let me think real quick.
No, no.
It sounds good.
great. It's not stupid. Go for it. Brains was the
scarecrow. Courage is the lion.
What did the tin man want?
Oil can.
He wanted
shit, what did he want?
I can't remember what he wanted. Damn it, I was going to hang
on to this. I'm going to stick with heart. He wants
to have heart. He wants the
album Dreamboat Annie by the band
Heart. Show me, heart.
Oh. Yeah. Oh, it
worked.
Holy shit.
I was resigning myself.
Number four answer on the boards got now coming up with five points.
By the way, one person in the chat said,
heart, mine is broken.
Aw.
Whoever you are, we're hugging you virtually.
If your heart's broken, what about your earth, water,
wind, and all the other captain planet?
Right, right.
You could, it's also, it's like airbender shit too.
Hey, wizard.
I'd like some earth, please.
Great.
Reach down.
Um, let's go, let's dig, let's dig into some, it's going to have to be super power, hero powers.
Super Howard. Super Howard. Super hero Howard. Um, so I'm going to go, what are we not done? Um, uh, oh, geez, this is hard now that we're here.
I mean, I'll help you out. I'll help all three of you out and say, don't necessarily think superpowers. Think of things that, you know, you wish you had more of in your life.
Okay. Traits that you wish you had confidence. He's a wizard for God's sake. I was going to say, um, I was going to say, um, um,
I was going to say confidence, but I think that's in their courage.
So I will say...
It is not, by the way.
Oh, it's not?
Confidence and courage are two different things.
Well, I'm going to wing it and say that somebody thought that and put it on here, so I'll say confidence.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Show me confidence.
Oh, man.
That's because a lot of people probably got them confused.
All right.
No, I don't think so.
I genuinely think that people in the Tadpool, for the most part, were talking.
We're talking about traits that they wish that they had themselves or felt like they didn't have themselves.
Even though all of these, I think you guys all have these traits.
Are they a wizard?
I do bring them out of you.
Can you, would you say there's a crossover with talents in this list?
Or can you even tell me that?
Like talents, like D&D talents?
No, be like, hey, I wish I could sing.
Or like Napoleon Dynamite talents.
Like I wish I could sing or I wish I could, you know.
Sure. People did it. People did answer those things.
Okay. So that's, that's, they're all, I'm going to go with, uh, I'm going to try singing
you then. I want to sing. So let's do it. Sure. Show me ability to sing.
Damn it. I should have said carry a tune. Um, singing ability was number 30.
Oh, okay. No points, but a nice, deep number. There you go. Yeah. 30 points. 30 points for
Scott. Well done. People think I should probably ask for that. All right. Back to, uh,
Talley and Brian, 18 to 8.
You guys are in the lead.
Four answers are still on the board.
Talley, what would you wish for it, traits-wise,
when you whip that curtain back and say,
who's back there?
Well, if I were to realize that he can't give me much trace,
he could at least teach me maybe fiscal responsibility.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some money.
Yeah, money management.
All right.
Show me fiscal responsibility slash money
and slash money management show me the money
show me the money
hey
number 16
number 16 on the list
it was a good answer and
16's better than 30
I can tell you that it is for sure
yep it's almost half
all right so let's do
we're gonna
say it's actually more than almost half
because you know that's 7, 8, 9
no 30 is 15 so it's almost
half it would be one down
is what I'm saying. I don't mean up more would make it
half. You should just... By the way, one of the
things that we learned in this survey
was that one of our
guests
over the week,
you know, over the course of a five-day week
when we do these shows, one of our guests has
never seen the Wizard of Oz. Wow.
And it's somebody who has seen
a lot of movies. Those are always
like those people that have never... Is it
Travis? It can't be Travis.
You know, I mean, this movies
come on, the movies really
old. It would be, in really long,
it would be real easy to have seen bits of it
and never actually watched it. Pretty easy.
It's probably more than you might think.
It sounds like, it's probably Travis.
And the only reason that's crazy is
Travis is a huge film aficionado,
and that's why it's weird.
But that's also, I know,
emphasis on the fish.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you it's not Travis.
Okay.
But I think I know who it is then.
I'm not going to say.
That's like when someone hasn't seen Star Wars.
All right, let's do,
I know, I know, yeah.
I'm going to get back into the powers here for a minute.
Flame on, the power of fire.
Power of fire.
Give me the trait.
Make me hot.
Sure.
Show me fire.
I've made fire.
No.
Nobody actually, interestingly enough, talked about fire control or anything like that.
Surprisingly.
Do we need to think about stuff like D&D, Talley?
Like charisma or anything like that?
We kind of talked about that earlier, is it?
Your Riz.
What your Riz score is?
Right.
Oh, yeah. I'd whisper my Mew streak.
Yeah, that's right.
Hey, I now know what, thanks to Talley, I know what gooning means.
I didn't know before.
Oh, you're so well.
Talley, you can keep that to yourself, thanks to me, though.
I don't want to know.
I'd never heard of it until you.
I'll keep my virgin ears.
Is that when you do the truffle shuffle?
Oh, never mind.
Hold on.
Well, gooning is what you do after you squirt.
Oh, okay, great.
Wonderful.
Good, good stuff.
Boy, we could have stopped.
That was non-consent, boy, I did no consent, too.
Oh, hell no.
What do you think, Talley?
Okay, um, right, the game.
Yeah.
It's a foot.
I don't know.
What do you think?
I mean, we could go superpowers or we can go traits.
Or are we out of it?
You think that Riz is up there?
the charisma's up there? What trait
would you ask for? Wisda
Oz?
How about a fantastic
jaw line? That's a trait, right?
Oh, that was the Mewstreek.
Okay, yeah.
Better for...
Yeah, let's say that, though, like, just
charisma
attract, like, you know,
personality or something.
Okay. Yeah. Is that narrowed down
enough?
It's narrowed down enough. Yeah, sure.
Show me
Riz.
Yeah, number nine.
Oh, shit.
You up to 27 points.
Good points.
Oh, my gosh.
Not yet, completely out of striking, completely out of striking business.
Distance.
Or business.
Striking business.
Striking business.
I like that.
Scott would need to get all three of the remaining answers, though, to win.
Right.
If you're the head of a union, you're in the striking business.
That's actually business.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, fantastic.
All right.
Or a boxer.
You guys get one more.
You get one more of these and then you do have it locked down.
So this is a big moment.
Yeah, I mean, technically, Talley's won either way because, you know, she gets the prize if it's full.
She gets the prize if she and Brian wins.
Do you think enough people just ignored the question and just said Ruby Slippers?
You think there might have been Talley?
I love that.
A chance for that.
I love that.
I'm just here for the slippers.
Oh, man.
Just give me the shoes.
The question isn't, did it happen?
The question is, did it happen in enough quantity?
Enough.
Right.
Sure.
I love that.
Probably not.
Let's see.
What trait?
Never underestimate the power of potential.
That is so freaking great.
You know what?
If we've already mathematically won regardless, let's go.
Let's do it.
Let's get some slippers in here.
Slippers.
The ruby.
Make them brooby, baby.
Because, you know, the tadpool thinks
slippers are a trait.
Yeah, sure.
Show me.
Show me.
It's got to be the shoes.
Oh!
The ability to teleport by clicking heels,
which, come on.
I mean, that's kind of what you're...
That's actually, you know what?
Even as your opponent, I approve.
I think that's a perfectly crumulent decision.
Yeah, yeah.
That's good.
All right.
Now we can just say anything.
We don't have the limits of the teleportation, you know.
is it light of sight yeah is it night crawler is what is it line of sight do you have to have
right do i have to have been there yep does it operate via you know fast travel points i mean so many
questions around teleportation no one ever asks yeah do i teleport into space if i think about
a place that you know at least star trick has i used to have the technical manual thing that they
sold it's a great big like coffee table book about star trek tech yeah and one of the things is a
whole detailed description of how they solved
that problem, the relative
position of planets and objects
and ships and stuff. And it was great
that they would do that. The show never did, of course.
They never talked about it on the show. No.
It'd be great if they had an episode,
like a movie where they
you know, the
Star Trek crew goes back in time to when they were
coming up with the teleporter
technology and they're just
being randomly beaming people to space
because they haven't figured out that, well, the Earth
was actually over there when we started.
Yeah, I mean, like, in Enterprise, they start off not using the teleporter because it's experimental.
Oh, that's true, yeah.
Oh, that's right.
You should have had an episode where it's like...
Also, McCoy...
Beaming people in space.
McCoy was old enough to...
Remember, he was all nervous about it in the motion picture.
He wouldn't do it.
And then somebody got fried in it.
Somebody got killed in it.
And he was there and he's like, told you or whatever.
I can't remember.
It's also episodes of Voyager where they get controlled of the teleporter and then just beam people out into space.
Oh, nice.
it's a great way to spin nasty
oh my gosh
how the Kazon did that
you're making me want to watch that again and that's not something I have time for
but you're making me watch it
Voyager's good stuff I like Voyager
I'm a fan yeah I like it
I'm a Janeway guy I'm into it
I can't stand Tom Paris though
what just fell oh
come on you know you kind of like Paris
it's a little bit like Paris
France I don't like on the inside
Tom Paris sucks
Tom Paris got a promotion to
commander in Scott's mind and still ensign
Harry Kim remains as
Yep
Harry Kim not much better
Not a fan
Anyway how about we go with the trait
Of the house-resistant
Body how about that
What do you think you little what do you think
What's kind of traits we got here
I mean a reference to the witches
I see where you're going
All it would take is me seeing one person
Getting smashed by a house that would go like
Yeah I don't want that
happen to me. I want
the skill to never happen. This land is
weird. Yeah, so
house-proof armor. I like it.
Right, right. That's fantastic.
Do it. Is that really what you're going
with? Okay, all right.
Screw it. Yeah, go for it.
Show me, house-resistant armor.
Technically
Technically invulnerability, invincibility, but
you know, oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man. That may be awesome.
No, no, no, look, invulnerability isn't
all it's cracked up to be because you can't get injections and stuff
that happens, Superman.
That's true.
If you want invulnerability, but you want to shoot up ketamine, you're screwed.
Yeah.
Yeah, the invulnerable can, well, I wonder if there's a really bad virus going around.
Orally.
You have to take it erectally or orally.
Or rectally rectally.
That's awesome.
All right.
Well, what did we miss then?
A suppository you've been waiting for has arrived.
What do we miss on here?
Oh, I have a thing still.
Still got two.
You still have two potential answers.
You can at least get a couple more points.
I thought I'd bottomed out.
All right.
Oh, no.
Let's do how good looking you are.
You want to be attractive.
Sure.
You should totally do that.
Excellent.
Show me attractiveness.
Oh, man.
No, but it was a good guess.
Let's see what these last two answers.
First off, congratulations.
Talley, let's look at number five, something that we've all shown, a good trade on today.
Patience.
Nice.
Number five.
Nice.
Just having the patience.
Sure.
Number eight is a better memory.
Wow, that's not bad.
Like photographic memory or just better memory in general.
That sounds like the trait you would ask for if you arrived and he was like, shit.
What was I wanting to trade again?
Better memory.
Yeah.
I can't remember.
Let's go down the rest of these.
Number 11, your bonus answer would have been focus or concentration.
People, I feel like that the trait that they lack.
Yeah.
What?
Can't imagine why?
Number 12, health.
13, bigger wiener.
14, creativity.
I was really hoping I could get a spray out of Scott.
He was like, oh, he's taking a drink.
It was close.
And if I'd have had more left of this tea, I would have spit it because you got me.
I will give you credit for that.
Creativity, happiness, luck, the ability to dance, charm.
I guess that's kind of charisma.
Empathy, energy, gender change.
Hair, libido.
Somebody just said lion.
I love that.
Two people actually said lion.
I'd be a lion.
I'd be a lion.
Stephanie was happiness, not a penis, happiness.
Not a penis.
Happiness.
Oh, half penis.
What?
Half penis.
I have much happiness for you.
Resilience, sexiness, I guess, would have been the closest to being good looking, number 29.
Youth, three more wishes, ability to stop or restart time.
Now we're getting into the single answers.
Adaptability, apathy.
Somebody said better curtains.
It's all right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you can seat through them or look behind them.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Yep, brevity.
Okay.
Too bad.
You're not getting that stick.
No.
Nope.
No brevity.
Let's see.
Care-freeness, or not giving an F.
Cripling debt.
Decisiveness.
diplomatic,
equanimity,
executive function,
flexibility,
honesty, humility,
invisibility,
got one for invisibility.
Lust.
Somebody just wants.
I think somebody got this
confused with the seven deadly sins.
I was going to say,
yeah.
Can I have some lust, please?
Thanks.
Never seen it slash Monica.
Or dash Monica.
My neck.
Oh, it's Monica then, is it?
Monicas are never,
never seen the Wizard of Oz person
she in chat said
is it even a secret
so it was
yeah not now
no she said is it even a secret
so I think she gave it away then
let's see
self-control sense of humor
sepia tones
sexual prowess
I like sepia tone
I almost said black and white
color because the movie starts right
right yep the ability to see color
super healing
somebody else did say
the knowledge about Oz because I've never read
the Bucan North scene in the movie. I don't know who said that.
Unlimited flatulence
and
when I fart a $20 bill
appears. Oh man,
I would have made about two grand last night.
That would have been...
I'll turn Taco Valens like the most
profitable venture. I was going to say.
Because listen, that would fix
the wealth problem.
That would probably fix your confidence.
Yeah. Like, you know what?
whatever it would ruin your
sexual prowess though you'd have trouble there yeah
it would exactly it wouldn't fix your loneliness
unless tally has a word
for a certain person who likes to huff on the farts
and I don't want to even know what it is sure it is
please don't tell me there's not right
there isn't of course there is no
Scott Google a Dutch oveners
oh well that's just to piss your wife off that's not a thing
you like right that's not a
That's actually one of the more common ones you might find.
Really?
Really?
That is wrong with people.
All right.
That's fine.
Hey, I'm not here to kink shame.
I'm just here to say I ain't huffing on your farts.
That's all I'm saying.
Forget it.
Don't knock it.
Yeah, well, don't fart knock it.
I guess I'm just going to keep knocking it.
Yeah, I'm going to keep knocking it.
Well, that was awesome.
And as always, this is what we have to play.
Where is it?
I've lost it.
Congratulations.
But for me,
I lose. That's okay, though, because Talley won these games. These are great games. Who gave us these, Brian?
Oh, Kim Kim-Bazi. So, big thanks to Kim. And Talley, if you have any problem redeeming these, let me know because I know you're outside the U.S.
That's right. Up there in Canada, keep on. You lucky, lucky person.
Yep. Keep on gooning. We'll see you later.
Why would you do that to me?
I just learned what it was, and now I got to say it, you know.
done away you and i
getting together this weekend after we've had to move things around a little bit for
schedules but after film sack on saturday brian and i are going to do a play retro all
about wave race one of the greatest racing games of all time i still maintain that they've
never quite figured out how to make anything feel like that again
wave race 64 by the way not the original game boy wave race we're talking about that sexy sexy
tech demo looking
what's the N60 good for
Wave racing. Wave racing. And even
Wave Race 2 couldn't recapture
it. It just couldn't figure it out after
this. So some magic sauce. It's crazy.
Magic sauce in that game
that was never replicated. I would also say
this of 1080 snowboarding. Both of those games had
something special that even their sequels
couldn't duplicate. No other third party
characters. That's right. They had some crossover.
So I'm very excited about this because that's a huge,
that's a big, big game for me. And we're going to talk
about it this weekend on
Play Retro, Frogpants.com slash Play Retro. Check out
the schedule. You'll find the date and the time.
Hey, Brian.
No, you. Too late.
Already said it. Bye.
I got nothing. I got nothing.
We couldn't do it.
That was great. It was all done.
Well, the time is that we take a break.
And when we come back, we're going to talk to Tom Merritt.
He'll be here. And then after Tom Merritt, we'll have Randy.
Nicole's got an appointment, so she will not be here.
but we'll have some recommendals today.
And my recommendal is so weird today,
you're just going to have to wait until I tell you
before you make any kind of decisions.
Sure.
Do not rush out and see what I talk about
until I talk about it.
I can't wait. I can't wait to, yeah,
I'm looking forward to hearing about that.
Coming up shortly.
But Brian, you have to play a song
before we can do that.
So play that.
Yeah.
Oh, I love when we get
interesting combinations of terms for bands.
This is a New York City-based power pop gaze band.
like, you know,
shoegazy band or bedroom pop
or you got power pop gaze.
Careful how you say.
It's a band called Heaven.
And they're announcing,
they've got their third full-length album coming out,
which is called Dream Aloud.
That one comes out April 4th
of this coming year,
or this year, on Little Cloud Records.
This is the first single from it.
It's called, I Need You More Somehow.
Here is Heaven.
Thank you.
And I want you to know right now
That I need you more somehow
And I finally figured it out
that I need you more somehow
and if I need you once
I'll never ask it again
and then
And I want you to know, and I want you to know that now, the future isn't always in doubt.
And if I need you once, you know I'll need you twice in life.
And if I don't know, and if I don't need you once, I'm never to ask it again.
In the world
In the family of the ones, I'm never asked, I'm never lost, I'm never asked me again.
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See, she, she, she, maybe we could stuff your aunt Dimitri in there.
And we're back, tell me one more time, who that was.
Yeah, that was a band called Heaven.
Their brand new album coming out in April is called Dream Aloud.
That's the first single.
called I need you more somehow.
Oh, it's adorable.
Oh, please.
Well, good news, everybody.
Tom Merritt on his way in.
It is good news.
It is good news.
We need some tech news, really, here on the show.
Yeah, now more than ever.
That's really weird.
It added him and then removed him.
Why?
What happened there?
Let's try that again.
Come on Discord.
Don't be stupid.
Great group.
There we go.
I don't know what that was about.
But we're bringing him in.
We're making it happen.
It's our chance to catch up on what's
happening in the world of technology and we're going to do it as soon as he picks up his phone
which is currently ringing we have the rings of ringage not the rings of speakage no throbbing
even look at it throb oh i hear i see it now isn't technology one menacingly yeah menacingly
blinking hello tom merritt welcome to uh the morning stream on your usual wednesday thing how
you doing there buddy i hear nothing he's muted oh i heard of nope um
I think I heard him say nope.
Oh, that was me saying nope. Yeah. Sorry.
Oh, you're fine.
Oh, stop saying no.
Oh, there he is.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
Yep. Good movie.
I forgot to turn my camera and my pass through on.
Oh, shit. Well, that happens. And it's okay.
We're here for you, whatever you need. Whatever you need, we're here for you, man.
All right. Look, first the fires and now this. Oh, geez.
Can't catch a break in L.A. What's going on over there?
We got the Samsung unpack thing going on today.
Oh.
And so it caught me flat-footed.
Sorry about the...
What does that even mean?
Caught you flat-footed?
I don't know.
I've never heard the term flat-footed.
As it used like that.
I've heard it used for a gumshoe.
Flat.
A detective, a flat-foot, but not...
Let's find out.
Caught you flat-footed.
The original of being caught flat-footed.
Here it is.
It originated in sports.
Tom's a big sports fan
The beginning of the 20th century
According to the following source
Caught unprepared, taken by surprise
As in the reporter's question
Caught the president flat-footed
This usage comes from one or other
Sorry, one or another sport
Which whatever that means
In which a player should be on
His or her toes
Ready to Act
Cited 1900
The year 1900
Sounds like a baseball thing
If it's that far back
It does
Oh you know what?
Like runners, it could be runners too
Because if you're waiting to steal a base
Yeah, and you, yeah, exactly.
Your feet, you have to be like on your toes.
If you're flat footed, you're like, oh, no, I don't have an advantage because I can't spring forward or whatever.
Once again, baseball metaphors rule the earth.
Don't they, though?
Kind of, trying to do.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Well, Tom, this is a great opportunity for us to talk to you and find out what's going on.
So you mentioned the Samsung event.
Is there anything expected out of that thing before we do anything else?
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
I can tell you almost everything that will happen because it's,
It's almost all leaked.
My hope, as a person who covers this, is that when the announcement begins in just about an hour from when I'm talking right now,
they'll just release the NDAs for everything right away, so I don't have to sit and wait for them to announce it like Apple does.
But we're going to get new Galaxy S-25s is the best bet.
So they're expecting the S-25 plus, the S-25 Ultra, the S-25 Slim.
Also, an F-E edition of the Z-Flip.
Samsung does these FEs where you get like slightly better specs than the regular situation,
but at a bargain price.
One UI gets an update.
That's like, you know, when Apple announces the new iOS along with new iPhones.
Looking at a new galaxy ring, another smart ring should be coming.
And the interesting thing, the thing where there's any amount of uncertainty would be what Samsung is
going to update us on regarding Project Mujan, which is their augmented
reality thing that they're doing with Google.
Are we going to get an actual shipping product?
Are we going to get something that is just more of the concept and it's coming soon?
Some kind of looking forward to that as being the big, not even surprised, because they
already revealed Project Moon at the end of 2024, but the newsiest thing in here.
Yeah, not a lot of, I noticed I haven't heard you use the term AI here today.
And is that because any AI advances will happen through?
try to avoid using it at all costs, but yes, it will be all over this announcement.
Don't worry.
Okay.
And is that mostly, I don't understand the relationship exactly, but will that mostly be
how they're going to integrate Gemini into the Samsung phones themselves?
Or like, how does that work when it's a Google product?
Yeah, they use, they use Gemini.
Samsung also kind of always does this where they roll their own version of Google services.
And so they have, you know, Samsung, I don't think they call it Samsung Intelligence,
but I'm blanking on what they call it off the top of my head right now.
But they have their own thing that uses Gemini and powers it and Google Assistant and all that.
So, yes, you will get more AI and a new look and all of that sort of stuff.
All right.
So big day for...
Galaxy AI.
How could I forget that?
Oh, Galaxy AI.
That makes sense.
AI in the galaxy.
It's a big statement.
That's a big promise about the universe.
Well, good luck to them.
on that. I'm sure that we'll get all that reporting. Is there anything else going on today of note that you'd like to mention?
You know, I'm just curious if anyone has any questions left about TikTok at this point. Probably not. It seems like, you know, we've beaten that topic to death.
I actually do. That was the other big news this week was the, you know, grand closing, grand opening of TikTok over the weekend.
Well, your prediction was literally correct except just it happened sooner than you had.
It happened a little faster. Yeah. It happened so quickly. I had said on, on, on, uh,
all of the social medias when by Monday, well, I didn't say by Monday or would have been
right. I was like on Monday, my prediction is on Monday, TikTok comes back and it came back on
Sunday. Yeah, and it was like 12, 14 hours or something, 15 hours down or something crazy
short time. It wasn't even a full day, I don't think. Yeah. So, okay, I'd snap took a couple
days. That's right. That's right. I have a theory about why, because Capcut took longer too.
I think TikTok's data is in fact all on the Oracle servers in Texas as part of USBS, which is a separate company from Oracle and TikTok.
So that was easier to turn on than Capcut and Marvel Snap because they are probably running somewhere else and it was just a little more complicated.
Just a theory.
I don't know.
That's a good theory.
It's smart.
There was a post from Ben Brode about it.
It was real brief and he didn't really get into details, but he essentially said, okay, we're back up.
And we are very quickly moving to a different publisher.
Yeah, I saw that.
And I don't know what that means because publisher.
Because, yeah, because ByteDance is the publisher of the game, right?
So they handle the distribution and all that.
But yeah, I don't know where on the fringes what the line is and how much work that is.
But if they were able to get someone else publish it besides ByteDance, then they would avoid, they could get back in the app store.
Because that's the other thing.
If you have the app, you're fine.
But don't delete it if you want to keep it.
because you cannot get it in the U.S. out of the U.S. app stores,
or you can travel somewhere, quote, unquote, and get it that way.
But it's kind of a pain.
Quote unquote, VPN, I mean, whatever that may be called.
What is that?
What a weird thing that might be?
Interesting.
The other question I had was the kind of protest move for a lot of users to say,
oh, you want our data, we're going to Red Note or whatever.
And a lot of people did, including one of my,
my daughters, they were all excited about it.
I hear it's called Red Book.
It translates to Red Book, it turns out.
It translates to Little Red Book, which is the name of the Mao.
Oh, it really is.
Okay.
Interesting.
But when they put the English name, they didn't want to translate it that way for reasons.
So they called it Red Note in English.
Yeah, so this thing, I guess my question is the bleed of users when they thought that TikTok was done.
everyone like obviously people admit it would hope they'd all flood to reels and everybody at
youtube would hope they'd flood to shorts and and all of that but it seemed like a sizable portion
of people kind of participated in this quote unquote rebellion of theirs is there any sense that that
that will that they're going to be retained i mean i you're not going to know this for sure but is
do you feel like that was a there's like a massive bunch of people there now and and they're
happy and they're staying and they're not going to come back or do you think this is like everything else
where everyone just kind of comes crawling back.
Yeah, no, they're all back.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
Not as many people as it looks like do things on the internet.
Always remember that.
Yeah, no, it's true.
Yes, a lot of people, including one of your daughters, including my wife, tried out Red Note, those are TikTok
super users.
Most people dabble in TikTok.
Most people didn't have the time to bother looking up something in Mandarin and downloading
it and trying out.
but because we deal with such massive numbers of people on the internet,
it always looks like a lot of people,
because it is a lot of people compared to what we can see with our eyes around us, right?
But as a percentage of TikTok users, it wasn't that many.
And I don't think most of them are sticking around because TikTok's back, right?
They were doing it because they were mad about TikTok going away.
And it was interesting and it was fun.
Eventually the fun wears off.
Eventually, you get tired of the fact that you're struggling with an app that was designed
for another language in another market, and then you go away.
The sad thing is that it's going to ruin it for a lot of international users of Red Note.
I interviewed Tony Wang on Daily Tech News show last week,
who's been using Red Note for just about six years now.
And he's like, yeah, it's weird because we use it to keep in touch with what's happening with friends and family in China,
even though we live in the United States.
But now there's all these other people, you know, like Kevin Bacon showing up on Red Note.
And we're like, holy cow.
And Red Note had to make a few changes in how it works, which, you know,
may or may not negatively impacted for Tony, but once all the TikTok tourists leave,
it's going to be a changed place.
Yeah. Carter showed me her screen the other day, and it's just a clone.
It just looks like TikTok. In fact, I thought it was TikTok. I said, oh, you're back, are you?
She goes, no, this is Red Note.
Yeah. It turns out there's only so many ways to do a scrolling feed of vertical videos.
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're going to have features like comments and likes and all that,
you're probably going to put them over there where everybody else puts them. And they're all kind of doing the same.
And that's the thing to remember. Red Note's been around for 60 years plus, I think maybe eight years.
So it's not like it was invented this weekend. A lot of people are like, ah, they whipped up a clone.
It's like, no, it's been doing this for a long time. But yes, it does the same thing as TikTok.
So I'm sure they are taking their inspiration from their design from TikTok. But they've been around. They've got their own user base, et cetera, et cetera.
Now, from a legal standpoint, this is just a delay, though, right? If I understand it right?
Just from a practical legal standpoint, isn't there still a timer? It just got pushed.
Pushed out or? No, there is no timer.
Okay.
The distribution of TikTok and provision of its services is currently illegal.
What the president issued was an executive order promising not to enforce the law for 75 days.
That's what I'm thinking of. Okay.
So if you trust that and if you're not worried about someone else coming up for you, which Senator Tom Cotton has said we will, then you will go ahead and provide the services, which says.
seems to be what Oracle might be doing.
It's hard for me to tell how much TikTok can operate without Oracle and how much it can't,
which is funny because that's what the whole fight about is about, is where that data sits.
If it can operate without Oracle, well, then there's an argument that that data is a problem.
If it can't operate without Oracle, then why is there a problem if all the data is in the
United States?
Anyway, it's able to operate.
So it's likely someone is violating the law in the United States.
by providing services to TikTok and is not worried about being sued,
whereas Google and Apple have said, oh, no way, we are not going to violate this law
until there has been a change in the law.
We're not going to believe an executive order that says, don't worry, you won't be liable.
So that's why you cannot get these apps from ByteDance in the U.S. Play Store or the U.S. app stores.
Okay.
Yeah, this actually helps.
I mean, it's a political football, obviously, this whole thing.
But just aside from that, it's fun to watch how this is a really interesting juncture in social media in general and like kind of like who's...
An interesting juggling act.
Yeah, who's defying what?
It's almost, it reminds me of it's like your friend who had, who was running a Plex server with a bunch of illegal content and he's just sort of flaunting it a little bit.
You know what I mean?
I don't know how to explain it.
Like there's a little bit of that.
that feeling about it. It's hard to explain.
You don't know where to send the takedown notice, except we totally do know where to send the
takedown notice in this case. But yeah, maybe that's true of your friend too and he just
doesn't realize it. Yeah, this is like a high level version of that where the stakes are just
different, I guess. I don't know. I think the reality. So that's the legality of it. I think
the reality is the biggest move was on Monday when the Chinese foreign ministry changed
from saying we would have to approve any change in ownership of bite dance's assets to saying
oh acquisitions are up to them that's that's their we're not involved in that that was a change
uh and as soon as they said that some kind of deal became possible because up till now i'm like
listen if the chinese government doesn't want this to happen it's not going to happen so
something happened in a conversation between the president and Xi Jinping uh that made them
loosen the reins a little bit there there's some outline of a deal
that China's okay with. They're pursuing the details of that now. My guess is it will involve taking the current Western investors of ByteDance and giving them a majority stake in a joint venture in the United States. There's already a venture they can use called USDS that they could just prop up and turn into this. They could also create something entirely different. But ByteDance is majority owned by Western investors. They don't have the voting shares. The founder, one of the co-founder, Zhang Yumin,
has the voting shares. So what they're going to do is probably create a joint venture where the voting shares on the U.S. version tilt in favor of the Western investors. They'll bring in some new investors. I don't know if it's going to be Mr. Beast or Elon Musk or any of the other Frank McCourt names that are floating around out there. But they'll probably bring in some new investors. And within the next two months, they'll announce that there has been a sale, even though it won't be a sale. And then once that happens and that's all confirmed and then they can certify the president.
and can certify that, yes, this meets the divestment qualifications of the law, so TikTok is
legal. Then you'll see it show back up at the app store. And after that happens, Senator Cotton's not
going to want to go and pursue a lawsuit against Oracle. He's not going to want to get the SEC to do it
or anything like that. So I feel like it all fizzles away unless that deal falls apart. If that deal
falls apart, then this all starts over again. How are people not listening to Daily Tech News show or
Tom Merritt for their commentary around tech.
How do they exist in a world of tech news consumption?
I'm not kidding.
I've listened to a lot of stuff around this.
This is the most information I have gleaned in two weeks from all my sources.
And I'm not just saying that because we're friends or that you're on the show on Wednesdays.
Like for legit.
Nobody's talking about it in these terms.
Yeah, no, for real.
It's really good.
More of that later, of course, Daily Tech News Show.
And it's Wednesday, which means I get to be on there and continue to be in awe of everyone's coverage.
So check us out, me, Roger, Sarah, and Tom later today at your usual times.
Tom, anything else brewing right now?
Do you like folks to know about?
Yeah.
If people aren't aware, there are two versions of DTNS now.
There's the briefing, which I'll be recording with Jen Cutter as soon as Samsung wraps up.
And that gives you the 30-minute tight.
I just need the analysis.
What I just talked about from TikTok, that's all straight out of Daily Tech News Show briefing.
And then DTNS Live is what Scott's going to be on, where we have.
the discussions. And we give ourselves a little more room these days to have those discussions
and see where they go and sort of help each other understand there. So if you haven't signed up
for DTNS Live, go check that out in the pod catcher of your choice. Nice. Tell Jen hi and we'll
see you a little bit later today. Thanks, ma'am. Bye now, Tom Barrett. He made a face that no one
saw it, darn it. Did you see it? You saw the face, right? No, I missed it. Ah, shoot. It was great. It was great. I feel
bad that no one's going to see that face.
Darn it.
He just did this thing at the end, which is very untom-like, where he just went, I get the very
end.
I'm bummed I missed it.
I know.
I just, shoot.
Well, anyway, what are you going to do?
Curse you, camera.
Lost to the internet.
Someone will have to mine the data from whoever's capturing everything we say at the NSA.
All right.
You know what's crazy?
If the NSA is gathering as much digital information as everyone thinks they are, and they probably
are the this like this conversation right now is being stored 30 minutes from where I live at that big
NSA data center up there oh yeah no kidding oh funny so I could John Wick in there I could
I could John Wick in there and destroy all our data you know I'm sure I'd get killed but it would
be a yeah great that place is crazy Brian when I go down that way my dentist has passed there
so I have to go past there all the time and it's this little zone where from one end
It's about a three-block drive in front of it.
You see these nondescript buildings,
and your phone will cut out regardless of what you're doing.
Really?
They block everything as you walk, drive through that.
So my music stops, my phone stops.
Everything stops.
It's almost like...
Oh, because you're listening to something,
but if you had something on your phone you're listening to,
that you'd be...
Oh, no, I'd be okay there, yeah.
Just anything internet-related.
Not EMP blast levels.
No, no.
And every car just goes,
burr, just off the side of the road.
drive by that place.
Yeah.
That's funny.
All right.
What do we?
Oh, yeah, Randy.
That's who.
That's what's up.
Yeah, that's who.
Yeah.
That's who.
We're going to get Randy in here.
Who Randy?
Let's see.
Do everyone's files?
I do everyone's files.
Okay, cool.
We're bringing Randy in and we're playing a little song.
Well, what do you recommend?
Randy Jordan joining us as he does every Wednesday for an edition of
Recommendals.
We take things from streaming services and we tell you what we think of them.
Maybe you'll want to watch them.
Randy, welcome back to the show.
Thank you, good morning, morning stream.
It is nice to be here.
I am a happy boy.
Yeah, good.
Oh, I like that.
What is that?
Yeah, give us.
I just wanted to call myself a boy.
Oh, I thought it was fun.
All right.
Like a backstreet boy.
Yeah, like a happy backstreet boy.
One of these backstreet boys looking all handsome.
Look at that guy right there.
Yeah.
You were one of the folks that was able to identify brand.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was a good job.
I was listening.
to the radio in the 90s.
Yeah, you were.
And the radio,
ooh, I was so...
Everywhere I lived, I had my favorite station
and my second favorite station
that you switched to when there's ads on.
That's still kind of all we had.
It's all we had, man.
We didn't have any other options, really.
I mean, I obviously buy tapes and CDs
and all that, but yeah,
radio was big, and they didn't have as many commercials,
and they weren't owned by like three giant mega companies.
That was a nice time in radio history.
Oh, wow.
All that radio gaga.
Yeah, right?
Radio Googoo and Gaga.
I would love for there to be collections of the parody songs that the big stations made themselves.
Yeah.
You know, like K Rock made tons and tons of comedy content.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I'm sure.
That's got to exist somewhere.
Yeah.
Somebody has those.
We used to have a lot of there locally.
There are still songs in my brain.
Like, for, a local radio show was going to do the weather.
and they would have a singing weatherman song.
And now I know that that was being distributed to 150 radio stations.
But, like, at the time, I thought my local radio station was really clever.
Yeah, they were smart.
We gave him too much credit is what we did.
All right.
Well, we're here.
It is time for us to do some recommendals.
We're going to start with Brian.
We're going to play him a clip.
But first, any set up for said clip?
Yeah.
This is a movie that currently, you know, Tina and I are doing.
doing the thing. And I think Randy is as well where we try and see as many of the
the predicted best picture nominees as possible. And this is one that seems to be on everybody's
list. And after watching it, I completely agree. It should be on your list to watch because
my gosh, it's great. And you'll hear the clip. Here you go.
Look at this shit. We'd probably live here if the war didn't happen. And that fucking crazy
Just think about, seriously, like, we think of ourselves as these, like, very American creations, you know?
And I guess that we are.
I guess that's, like, the essence of America.
People created from other cultures.
But, like, in some parallel black whole universe, you and I are Polish, and we probably got, like, long beards and we can't shake hands with women.
Yeah, that's funny.
You know, every time I see, like, one of those Hasidic guys on the street, I always just think, like, there, but for the grace of no God, go I, you know?
What?
Oh, nothing.
It's just, like, a dumb joke.
Hmm.
Oh, that's cool, man.
Shit, look at her
Who?
That woman Marcia
She's walking alone
We should go talk to her
We just met her
You never
She's got this like
Deep sadness behind her eyes
You know?
She does?
Yeah, you didn't notice that?
During the introductions?
No, I think we should check on her
Benji, maybe she wants to be alone
Sorry
No one wants to be alone, Dave
Okay, I'm gonna check it out
Hey, why are you walking alone?
Are you a big loser?
Seriously
Yeah
I've been real curious about this one.
Can you have an Oscar nomination season without Emma Stone in a weird movie nowadays?
Is Emma Stone in that thing?
Is that her?
She produced it, but she...
Okay.
I'm close.
Yeah, you're close.
You're close.
Yeah, we're really surprised.
Like, we were watching the end credits.
We're like, oh, Emma Stone, and she didn't even, like, make a little cameo or something.
That woman you hear, by the way, that Kieran Culkin, uh,
surprise everybody that was Kieran Culkin and such a, such a hidden, you'd never recognize it as
Kieran Culkin under any circumstances kind of delivery. The woman he's talking to, by the way,
is Jennifer Gray. The movie is called A Real Pain. I'm sorry, wait, Jennifer Gray, Jennifer Gray?
Jennifer Gray from Dirty Dancing. Oh, okay. I didn't know. She was even doing stuff. New nose and
all. Wow. It's not that new anymore. Well, no, it really isn't. It really isn't. Yeah.
It's an old nose now.
It's an old nose.
Basically follows these two cousins, played by Culkin and Jesse Eisenberg, who's also
writer and director of this thing.
But if you told me, it was directed by Alexander Payne or David O. Russell, I would have
believed.
Well, definitely Alexander Payne.
Maybe not necessarily David O'Russell.
But, yeah, no, written and directed by Jesse Eisenberg.
He and Culkin play cousins that grew up very close and kind of drift.
apart a little bit over the years, but decide to get together after their grandmother passes away
and leaves them some money to go back to Poland and see where she was born.
Basically, one of her wishes was to give them some money to go to Poland and see where she was born.
So they do that.
They go to Poland and they do, they join a tour group that is seeing, you know, a lot of the sites and
um holocaust uh location and and that sort of thing but they splinter off from the the tour
to go um to go see grandma's house and the movie follows the two of them and the two of them
couldn't be as close as they were couldn't be more more diametrically opposed in where they
are in their life right now um kieran kulkin is is unmarried single and and probably bipolar
um we think um and um jesse eisenberg is family man reserved as you could hear in that clip and
and makes the the cute little dad jokes and you know karen kalkin doesn't get them or even notice
them or even care that kind of is that kind of is the the um the gist of his character he is
very self-absorbed like i said probably bipolar but kind of very likable in that kieran
Culkin way where you want to be his friend but you just don't want to be around him for long periods
of time, if that makes sense? Sure. Yeah, no, he has that vibe immediately in this clip. I felt that. He really,
he really does. Yeah. There's, there's, um, and this isn't a spoiler, there's a scene in the movie where,
uh, throw away background thing that happens where Eisenberg offers, uh, Kieran Culkin some,
some peanuts in a little bag that he brought along for the trip. And, uh, you know, no, I don't want any.
you sure well all right i'll take i'll i'll have a couple and he grabs the bag and you see him in a
later scene polishing off the last few peanuts in that bag without ever giving it back to jesse
eisenberg like and that is such a it's like this little hidden thing that that you might notice
but it sets up his character and who he is no that's all i don't want any and then i'm just going to
take it and eat all of them um i feel like that clip even that even the clip she tells me
me that's the kind of person he is. There's just some vibe about it. It really does.
Who else do you have in this thing? So you've got Kieran Culkin, Eisenberg, Jennifer Gray.
Some people that you probably will recognize from other things. A guy named Will Sharp,
English actor. I knew I'd recognized him, but I don't think I've seen anything that he was in.
Oh, I guess he was in the White Lotus. So I did see him in there.
Oh! That's the only place I know him, too. He's Ethan. He's the rich, he's the rich computer kid, made an app and made a bunch of money in that show. That's it. Yep. He's very good in there. Although he doesn't, he's British, but he played, he didn't play British. I don't think. Anyway. Yeah. He does in this. I'm saying in White Lotus, he didn't. He was. Right. In White Lotus, he wasn't. Yeah. But in this, he is, he is playing a British tour guide. Kurt Egyawan is, um,
You might know from House of the Dragon.
He was a Grandmaster Orwell.
Like I said, people you've seen in a lot of different roles,
but this is really an Eisenberg-Kulkin kind of showcase.
And really, it's so worth it.
And this is, I think, let's see,
so when Culkin won for, he won the Golden Globe,
was it for this or was it for, it was for this, I think.
I think this year's, yeah.
Colkin won the Golden Globe for supporting.
A Real Pain was nominated for musical or comedy, but it lost to Amelia Perez.
Right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Now, the reason I get confused is because I also watched, and I'll talk about it for a real quick second here,
I watched a movie called A Different Man with Sebastian Stan.
It rhymes.
Look at that.
It's like David O'Ressel, American Hustle.
But he didn't get nominated for that.
He got nominated for The Apprentice, which.
is the Trump
comedic
biopic biopic or something. I have no idea
what... But Sebastian Stan
won the Golden Globe for
actor in a motion picture.
He did, but for the other
motion picture. Right. Right.
Not for a different man.
That's what I was getting confused, because I was
thinking Kieran Culkin was in two different things
this year, and I was trying to remember if he won for
this or something else, but he did win for this.
He won for this. Jesse Eisenberg
was nominated against Sebastian Stan.
Sebastian Stan won.
So is Karen Culkin in a different man?
I'm confused.
No, no, no, no.
I was confused thinking trying to remember if Karen Culkin was in two things this year.
And I was like, oh, he won for real pain.
And it turned out, no, he won for something else.
But I was thinking of Sebastian Stan after we watch a different man.
Gotcha.
He won for something.
And then Culkin won not too long ago for his role in the Brian Cox thing.
Succession.
Oh, yeah, succession.
Yeah, he did the Emmy.
Yeah, it's been great watching him go up on stage and accept a work.
because he's very much like all the characters he plays.
Yeah.
He is brilliant.
He is so quick-witted.
And again, he seems like these characters that he plays feel like they're 80% Kieran Culkin and 20% what that makes that character unusual and quirky for the movie.
Here's my question.
Do you think year after year we're getting to see Karen Kulkin make acceptance speeches, do you think he's written those at like really carefully crafted, though?
because it comes off like he's just talking off the top of stuff.
Improving.
Comedians do that all the time, right?
They make it sound like they're just thinking of the joke.
I think he's just winging it, don't you?
I feel like he's got probably five bullet points,
and he just surrounds those bullet points with some sort of improvved snark and stuff.
Like he knows, he knew that when he got up on stage and was grabbing the Golden Globe,
he says, all right, well, this one's for me.
F you, Jesse.
Yeah.
you know, whatever he said.
Like he, I'm sure he thought about that and said, if I get up there, I'm going to say that.
But then I think about, I'd say probably the first minute of his speech is close to that list of what he wants to do.
And then the remaining portion of it is improv, improved based on a few loose bullet points that he wants to make sure he hits.
Yeah, I could see that.
I really like him.
I want him to get up and go, I was supposed to be Kevin.
and I was robbed of the role.
My brother sucks.
Yeah, I can do it too and then go sit down.
I would appreciate it.
You know, I didn't even think about it,
but thinking about this film,
there are a lot of parallels
to planes, trains, and automobiles.
And, but not in a like, yeah,
we clearly ripped them off kind of way,
just in a, oh, that's an interesting,
you know, this kind of thing happens with both of them.
So if you're on the fence about watching this,
but you like planes, trains,
and automobiles,
and that kind of road trip
between a couple people
who maybe don't think
they have as much in common
as they do
and that sort of thing,
this should push you
over the edge into watching it.
And I think a lot of people
are just like,
yeah, this is something
I've been wanting to watch.
And because it's on Hulu,
you can.
Home, maybe?
It's called Real Pain.
It's on Hulu.
Nice.
Do you think it's going to get
nomination for Best Picture?
Yes.
No question about it.
Right now I'm thinking
the locks are
conclave, anora, a real pain, the substance.
Wicked and Challengers?
I don't know about Chian.
Well, I haven't watched challengers yet.
Tina has so little interest in watching challengers.
It surprises me because it's like, it's getting a lot of, you know,
it's getting a lot of buzz and accolades.
I'm really sure about Wicked.
Yeah, Wicked, I feel like will be the,
let's have a blockbuster in there.
kind of thing
they better put
Dune in there
I'll be mad
Dune Part 2 is another
blockbuster
that could get a nomination
It needs to be in there
They got 10 slots
Freaking get it in there
That's all I ask this year
That's it
That's all I want
I'm not even saying
Put Furios in there
I don't think it belongs in there
But you know what
Dune 2 stick it in
Right up in there
Yeah okay
What else
I think
I think the Brutal is
The Brutelist could get nominated for Best Picture, but not Brady.
No.
I don't know if you did.
Did you end up seeing the Brutelist?
I feel like is Brutelist is a lot.
Did you end up going?
I can't remember if you saw it yet.
No, we have not seen the Brutelist yet.
I don't know if Brudelist will make it to streaming before the Oscars, but the thought, even with an intermission, the thought of sitting in a theater chair for three and a half hours.
It's a lot.
It doesn't, it doesn't tempt me.
No.
but I want to see it before the Oscars
and I hear it's fantastic
and I hear
you don't you say you don't think Adrian Brody's
even going to get nominated
oh I absolutely do
I was going to say I don't think
the director of the Brutalist
is going to get
nominated for best director
it's going to be one of those
I just yeah
Brady Corbett
is one saying
this director for that
maybe yeah
I'm also curious about
how the Academy is going to react
to Amelia Perez
even even this far away
from it. I still really like it.
But, you know, it's a musical based on a drug lord that goes through gender reassignment
surgery. And the, and the academy in the past has not been very kind to, to that specific
style of that specific.
Yeah, whereas the Hollywood foreign press acted like it was the best movie of the year.
Right. And I don't, I don't blame them, but yeah, it's a good question.
Yeah, yeah, it should, I mean, the musical aspect, now I'm being serious, I don't know how the Academy reacts to having two musicals in the, in the 10 picture slate, when Wicked will probably be the one that they'd go for.
So you guys know Wicked's a lock, that's interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yes, it is, it is this year's Oppenheimer.
Jeez.
It's super luck.
I think it's more of this year's Barbie, but.
I mean, the substance of it, but I'm saying for the.
voters. If it is the Barbie of this year, what is the Oppenheimer? Like, if just
tonally, I mean, like, Conclave. Conclave. Like, Conclave is, yeah. All right.
All right. Cool. I like it. Or, uh, the brood list. I haven't seen. I can't confirm it.
But, you know, one of those two feels like the, the weight of an arm, Oppenheimer.
Actually, probably more the broodest because it is based on a, a true story, based on a real person.
Well, watch for, uh, winner nominations. That's soon, right?
Tomorrow.
Thursday. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, tomorrow's Thursday.
shit this week is weird tomorrow's
Thursday
Colorado native
Bowen Yang is going to get
up there with somebody I can't remember
and reveal
the nominees
someone I can't remember
on stage for the first time
Rachel Sanat
Oh nice
Rachel Sonat
Should we know who that is?
I don't know who that is
And and I would know you from
From a last name
That sounds so much like the word
snot. It's really scary.
Oh, yeah, you say it too quick.
I would change that name if it was mine. I would too.
I don't like it at all. She was, oh, she was
in, on Saturday, the movie about Sardinette
Live, she was Gilda? Is that right?
Guilda Radner's character?
I think so.
Character, played Gilder Radner.
However that works. Nope, Rosie Schister.
She was the other lead.
Well, good luck to send, writer, producer,
yeah. I'm sure Miss Snott. We'll do great.
Hey, by the way, Saturday night, now available on streaming services, too, I believe.
Oh, good.
Probably Peacock, I'm guessing.
If I had to wonder.
Yeah, by the, sure.
Let me now, so the Hulu and it's a real pain.
Hulu, a real pain.
Yes, thank you.
Excellent.
All right.
Randy, moving down the road to you here.
We got a clip.
You got an explanation for yourself here?
What do you got?
It's a new documentary on Netflix.
Sorry.
It's a documentary.
I like them.
And the documentarian in the clip you're about to hear is talking to probably the world's most eminent science educator about science.
Oh, shit.
I know what I forgot what you were doing and I now know.
And I'm so excited because I share a deep love for what you're about to play.
All right.
Here we go.
So this is the actual large hydrant calendar.
So am I right in thinking that this might prove the existence of chakras within it?
human body?
No.
You're not interested in chakras?
No.
In the same way I'm not interested in ghosts.
But my Aunt Carol, she can sense chakras in someone's body.
And she doesn't need any machines.
This could explode at any minute, couldn't it?
No.
How fast are the protons in this thing, though?
99.99999% the speed of light.
Your sense of smell is faster, isn't it?
No.
Well, how come that when someone's frying bacon,
and you walk in the kitchen,
you can smell it straight away
before you've even seen it.
Have you ever tried putting bacon in here?
No.
Yeah, you should try it.
You might make quantum bacon.
Would that make it more interesting?
A little bit.
Is that Brian Cox?
It is.
It's Brian Cox.
I love him.
I love her.
I love everything.
At this point,
when it's a,
when it's a Kunk show,
the person that is talking to Kunk
knows what they're doing.
They know it's going to be,
it's going to be very difficult for them to speak factually and so on.
And so you're kind of playing the straight man.
And Brian Cox does it really great.
There's a bunch of other big scientists in this show.
Kongon Life is about life.
It's about our living world and all the different aspects of it.
And it's just perfect.
It's so funny.
It's very, very adult oriented, unlike some of the previous ones.
Like this one, because it's about life, it actually talks about, she actually gets into the subject of lovemaking and conception for humans.
Sweet.
And she was saying on the late shows that there was this explicit sex scene.
And so we're watching it and we see the scene and we're like, oh, that wasn't that explicit.
And then we didn't realize, oh, later in the show, actually, she stands in the room while two people are literally having sex.
It's X-rated.
You're watching two people have sex and she's standing in the room observing them.
Perfect.
It is that adult oriented this one.
I love these so much, dude.
I cannot wait.
I don't know why I've had, I didn't just eat at the day it came out, but I just love these things.
They're so good.
And you know what's great about them?
They're not unlike, say, my wife, can't think he was name.
Borat.
And I love the Borat movies.
I really do like them.
but they're more about the prank.
There's a message is there too.
I think the second one's better at it,
but the first one in particular.
Brett talks to everyday people who don't know they're being,
they're even really in a movie.
Yeah, it's more about the prank.
And there is a message and that's great.
But her thing,
you're right,
all these professionals and scientists and all these,
like people,
they know what they're in for,
but they're also answering honestly and,
you know,
doing the thing.
But what she ends up doing is teaching people more
about how not to be ignorant and face real facts and make you laugh while you're doing it
better than almost anyone I've ever seen. It's so good. It's so good. I sought this out when it was
right after it was released. She was on Colbert, the whatever it is, the late show, whichever one,
they all have the same name. And Diane Morgan, you know, was Diane Morgan. She just sat there and talked like
They talked shop as comedians.
Yeah.
And it was just like so compelling when he asked her, what, uh, what about kunk is you?
And she was just like almost everything.
Yeah.
Although like almost everything is me.
It's like how I would prefer to be like the one thing she said she, she, she disagrees with kunk on is, uh, mistreating
people.
Like she's just like, I wouldn't be so disrespectful.
Sure.
But, uh, in, in, in.
real life but like she is perfect she's just like she's developed the perfect character for her
yeah and like this is and you would think also it would get old but i've now seen like five hours of her
doing this and i never gets old i think this is actually her best work yeah it's really good i can't
wait to see it the last one was what kunk on kunk on earth earth yeah also so what you here's what people
should do watch the new one because it's all the hype and then just go back and watch them all you
You don't need to see them in order.
It's not like they have a continuing story.
And they're all wonderful things.
All the way back to what, 2016, I think it was the first one or something, 15?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And by the way, the cinematography is getting better and better.
Like for this one, they traveled her to the U.S.
And they put her out in the desert.
And they put her in Yosemite and so on.
Just like, like she's really actually making a serious documentary.
Yeah, they treat it.
They treat it.
That's half of what makes it so great.
And that she's sitting with these world-renowned experts.
Like, we're not talking about just throw away like, oh, we got a guy at Cambridge, like a third-tier-down dude.
It's like all the top names in their fields.
It just makes it so awesome.
She's so great.
Anyway, yeah, 2016 is when it started.
Some of them don't quite work with her vibe.
So there's a professor of quantum physics in here named Jim.
Al Khalili and he just does he's just looking at her like what do you think you are and I'm I don't
think he's participating on the level that a lot of them do like he's he really does seem
uncomfortable and so forth but uh especially Brian Cox like totally gets it yeah he
there's um there's there's a there's a Nobel Prize winning physicist named Paul Nurse who
definitely gets it he was
really really funny because he he hits her back as dry as she is almost more dry than she is
like this is this is I think this is her best work this movie yeah he's uh he's part of that
and a lot of these guys tool around together like I'm pretty sure that yeah I did see him in this
I saw this thing called Science Britannica in 2013 it's a British production and that Paul
nurse guys in it with Brian Cox and a bunch of other faces you know from from these sorts of
things. So it turns out it's like a really, it's an exclusive group of incredibly smart human
beings. And then you put her in this character and say, all right, now say the dumbest possible
things in front of these people. It's so good. It was so freaking funny. Yeah, I love it. And we're
talking about the Brian Cox, not from Succession, everybody. I know that both have come up today.
I know. Yeah, exactly. Very different person. Yeah, different Cox. All right. That is up on Netflix,
correct? That's where that is. It is, yes.
Cunk on Life.
All right, here is mine.
Very different thing.
Let's go to Max for this.
I will play you the clip and then I'll explain myself.
Here you go.
These are common expressions that people sometimes say,
you might hear it out on the street.
You might have seen it on TV, maybe a friend, maybe your grandmother.
So I'm going to read you a few of those, okay?
Okay.
All right.
The first one is, don't count your chickens before they hatch.
What does that mean to you that expression?
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Don't count your chicken.
Okay.
What are you writing down?
Well, the reason I'm asking you the questions is because I'm supposed to write, you know, write down...
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Why are you writing that down?
So I, so I, in case I forget it later.
But I don't like people talking about me after I go, please.
I don't blame you. I'm not, and I'm not talking by this. It's just for me. These are my own notes.
No one sees them but me.
I don't like it, but...
Here's another one.
So that awkward exchange by a guy named Peter Verby plays the psychiatrist.
And one of the main characters, Nick Nickas, played by Benny Safty.
This is not a documentary, although that scene sounds like one.
And if it sounds familiar in tone, then you know the Safty brothers from Uncut Gems, their most recent big movie.
This is Benny Safty and Josh Safty with a movie in 2017.
called Good Time, which I had never heard of.
And how I came to this was noticing that Uncut Gems was up on Tubey.
And I'm like, I need something on in the background.
I really like Uncut Gems.
When things are tricky in the world, I tend to gravitate towards stuff that seems stressful.
I know that's weird, but it's cathartic for me.
So to give you an example, I'm rewatching Chernobyl.
Randy will be happy about that.
I've watched Uncut Gems, one of the most intense.
yeah weird you know julia fox don't feel comfortable for two
two hours yeah yeah exactly uh sorry randy we're gonna say about julia fox
what about her just that she was josh sabdi's news oh yeah from those dude that freaking
i hate it so much when i hear her say it she's really good at uncubed gems but her thing
where she's getting that interview she goes oh it's brand tafties i can't even do it without
cringing well hey uh cajams uncajams anyway so i was
watching that. I'm watching Chernobyl. I'm watching these dark things because this is how I deal.
I don't know why. Just I find it cathartic. And I was like, well, what are the Safty brothers up to
after I finish gems? Because gems is freaking amazing. It is dark. I don't recommend it to hardly
anyone I know, but I think uncut gems is a freaking masterpiece and what it's trying to do.
And it's really something. And so I looked around and Benny and Josh had been doing these other
movies prior to. I'd never heard of ever even seen. This one from 2017 is called Good
Time. It stars Robert Pattinson. I also watched The Lighthouse, if you want to know
the kind of mood I've been in. Oh. Yeah. Wow. So, you know, I went dark for a while
there. Anyway, Robert Pattinson, Benny Safty plays the voice you heard in there, who's a
intellectually underdeveloped dude named this kid named Nick. His brother is Connie Nickas.
Strange name for a dude, but whatever. We'll take it. All their people in this, Jennifer Jason,
Lee, she is a very small role, but she is mind-blowingly good.
I think we all know she's great, but man.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Just something else in this. So good.
She's great.
Bar-Cod, Abdi, I never say it right, but he plays a security guard in this.
He's in it very briefly, but you know him from, I'm the captain now, that guy.
Yeah, look at me. Look at me. I'm the captain now. And he's also trying to sell, he's trying to sell wood to, what's his name in Blade Runner, 249.
he's a little shop owner guy anyway he's great uh nobody else you know everybody else is a nobody um
i mean they're all people with careers but you know what i mean uh but pass four listeners
i am i am a massive massive fan of robert patinson acting post twilight i think everything
he puts in is like really good and amazing and he is great in this but if you don't like
uncut gems you will freaking hate this because it's that kind of movie again
it's a lot of frenetic running around very stressful moments I will I will say this has more
more calm moments in it than non-cut gems is nonstop this is like a couple of moments of chill
but for the most part it's this story of these two brothers they have a botched robbery
the whole thing goes south they get separated and the rest of the movie is basically Pattinson
trying to find his brother so at the end of all this Patton's kind of a psychopath but he loves
his brother. That's the one true thing in his life. So he's a liar. He's a thief. He's all these
terrible things. But he will protect his brother at all costs. And that kind of is what drives him
for most of the movie. So he's in this like seedy underworld in New York City trying to find
his brother during a, the whole thing takes place in about 24 hours or less. And it ends in such
an interesting poetic way. I don't even know how to describe the ending. So I won't. And I also don't
want to spoil it so if you liked uncut gems and you like what benny what the saffty brothers are
bringing to the table then you'll like good time it is not a good time though in the same way
that uncut gems yeah right in the same way that gems was not the gems had there was the gem
and then kevin garnett thinking it helped him make points and all that like there was that whole part
uncut gems and it's yes there are uncut gems in that movie but it wasn't really about the gems
this is not about a good time it's about a kind of a bad time
it's really well acted really well made and I like what those guys are doing
apparently they're working on some new Sandler project I don't know what it is
and I'm pretty excited about it but again it's that's why I'm just so many caveats here
these are not movies for everybody I wasn't even sure I was going to do it I ended
decided on doing it in the last minute because everything else I'd seen was also
pretty dark like I said the lighthouse and watching turnobal again and I could
recommend any of these multiple times
but this one really, uh, stuck out, uh, stuck out as a stook. Come on, Scott. Um, as a thing that if you are a fan of
what those guys do in film, then you're going to like this. And apparently this is kind of what
started them on the road to like mega start them. Um, the brothers are interesting. Here's a
picture of them. I don't know. Wait, that's what's his name. Uh, so that's the guy who's mainly
behind the scenes. That's, uh, not Benny, but the other one. Brian. Brian's hefty, I think.
Josh, sorry.
Jenny and Josh.
I know too many Brian's.
That's the problem.
Standing next to him here.
You just assume everybody's a brilliant.
I know, right?
This guy right here, this is Benny.
He plays the, the challenge younger brother, and he's very good in this, but also co-directs.
I just think they've got a future, and I like their stuff.
So there you go.
It's called Good Time, Available.
Oh, Brian, I was going to tell you what the connection was because you had.
John Amos connection.
Yeah, you had said something about John Amos and.
I'll tell you about the old show Good Times.
Exactly, which is a perfectly normal reference, right?
John Amos, I'd forgotten entirely, plays himself in Uncut Gems.
There's a scene where Sandler's at his apartment after the girl leaves in a huff.
And he's knocking on doors to see where his son can take a poop.
And he says, oh, let's go up to this one.
He's from good times.
He played the dad.
He's really nice.
He'll let you poop in his apartment.
He knocks on the door and it's John Amos and he won't let him in.
He's like, no, you can't.
Oh, that's hilarious.
So it's even John Amos playing John Amos from Good Times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was just like this, when you said that, I was like, holy shit, has he been watching
me watch what I'm watching?
It's crazy.
Yeah, I've been watching you watch what you're watching.
I want that on a t-shirt.
Anyway, all of that up at quicktms.l.I, if you are interested in such things.
It's there.
Yep.
And a reminder that, and Randy, I know I don't have to tell you this, but I think that
Chernobyl might be the greatest mini-series ever.
produced by anyone ever. It's very
good. It's so good.
The farther away you
are from Russia, I think, the better
it is. I've read a lot
like people in Eastern
Europe and further to the
east saying they don't
understand why it's all in English,
why is it in British English,
and I get it.
Well, they have answers to that.
They've said why they did that, but I get it.
I get why that would annoy them, you know.
It's tremendous.
So good. It's just such a work of art. And oh my gosh, the acting. It's just, wow. I love the way it's edited.
Chernobyl is like edited in a way that makes so much sense. But at the beginning, you're like, what is happening? I don't understand this pacing.
And Ken from Chicago in the chat, I would agree with you, Shogun might edge it out. But the problem is Shogun is getting a second season. It's no longer a miniseries. So it depends on your definition.
I was talking about the original, the original showdown. Oh, well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
call that better than that.
Like the original showgun's fine.
That is not that great. I think he means the new one.
The new one's incredible. And the new one was supposed to be...
Because I don't think they ever thought that that was going to be a mini...
Was it really supposed to be a mini series?
Yeah, the whole thing. It was just so big that they decided to keep going.
Oh, I didn't realize that. I thought it was always intended to be a series series.
Well, good. I'm glad somebody over there woke up and made it.
Just imagine if the first three maxi episodes of Battlestar Galactica were all we ever
got and we would be calling that the greatest mini series of all time yeah we probably would actually
because that's way up there until they decided to make it a series and it's still great but
if we're talking miniseries like i could probably if somebody found something i'm just not
thinking of i could be convinced but i think Chernobyl holds the holds the i loved it yeah
for a long time i thought it was roots and uh my kid was shown roots in school a couple
years ago and i was like i'm going to look into this too nope it's uh it's it hasn't held up
yeah oh really wow okay yeah i tried watching roots not long ago it's not speaking of john amos isn't he
in roots i think he is oh my god isn't he is yeah isn't john amson neat roots no i thought he was randy
you sound like maybe i'm wrong i just i don't i don't remember i just i don't remember i just i don't
remember i don't i don't know i let's see here i can tell you it would make sense for scott johnson
uh i can tell you that uh Lauren green was in roots i don't remember that oh there is john
amos i was right and he was saying he was kintekinta grown up yep the levar burton character
grown up. Yep, you're right. Lou Gossett Jr. What the hell was Robert
Reed doing in there? Do we get to call
Band of Brothers a miniseries? Because wow. Oh, you know what?
Shit. Oh, yeah, he was only thinking about
yeah, no kidding. You know what? That's a challenge
for sure. I mean, the Pacific isn't a sequel. That one I've never seen, but I'm thinking
about other other yeah. Oh, Brian, you got to watch Band of Brothers. I need to see
Bounded Brothers, yeah. That's one I can't watch
without Tina. She's
and we got other things we're
currently wrapping up. No, I get you. It's
so good. Oh my gosh. I love
mini-series. Is that a way
to say it? Mini-series? Nope.
Mini-series. It's totally. Yeah,
absolutely. And yes, Lloyd Bridges
Lloyd Bridges was also in
Roots. I don't know who he
played. I assume all the white people were terrible
in this is what I'm thinking. Yes, exactly.
I can only assume
Ed Asner was in this. They all played
horrible people. Freaking Ed Asner. That's crazy. Sally Duncan? What the hell?
All right. Anyway, there you have it. It's all these things we talked about. QuickTMS.L.I.
Brian's got those up there and ready for you guys to produce and click, click and link and all that. Randy, tell us what we're doing for Film Sack this weekend.
On Saturday, we are sacking no escape. 1994's new escape.
Oh, can get out of it. I agree. I think it's the last of our January on Amazon Prime.
and, boy, Amazon Prime has adjusted for what we've been watching.
I look at Amazon Prime and it's just like,
would you like to watch this crap from 45 years ago?
Yeah, they're into it right now.
I think that's part of it.
Make sure you don't watch the wrong one, right?
There's been, like, we want the Ray Leota.
Yes.
No Escape, 94, not the Pierce Brosnan and Luke.
Correct.
Yeah, if you don't see Ray Leota, I think you're in the wrong one.
Randy, have a fantastic week.
We'll see you next time.
Stay safe.
Bye now.
Okay, but also.
Real quick here, somebody in the chat says, does it count?
Does Firefly count?
No, canceled seasons are not mini-series or canceled shows, I should say.
Firefly was intended to be a multi-season show.
They had plans for that.
They canceled that.
That is not a mini-series as a result.
That is a canceled series.
Just for clarity.
There's a difference between, yeah, exactly.
Just for some clarity.
All right.
we'll get some emails about what classifies as that, I'm sure.
That'll be fun.
I look forward to it.
Speaking of which, quick text on the way out, 801-471-0462.
Okay, this is a weird one because it's spelled all kind of funny, but I'm going to read it.
Scott with a capital T for some reason.
Yeah, but look at these, dude.
I don't do this.
Have you read this?
Yeah, I have.
I'm looking at it now.
I think he wrote it using a pencil eraser or something.
Something.
All right.
Scott with a giant T and Brian spelled B.R.
I-O-N.
You'd probably like that.
Yeah.
Love it.
My name is Peter, and I'm wondering if you had a recommendation,
it's a recommendation spelled right.
It is.
No, it isn't.
It's missing them.
It's not.
For a good TV at Costco.
Thanks very much, Peter.
This is a weird one.
I don't know why they're asking us this,
but they want to know if we have a good recommendation for a TV at Costco.
Between the two of us, you're the one who most recently bought a big 40-inch,
or not 40-inch, a big 400-inch 4K,
thing that you watch movies on at home that you love.
In 2020, we bought a 4, not 40 inch,
why we keep saying 40?
I know.
80 inch TV from LG.
And I have been extremely happy with it.
The good news is they're a lot cheaper now,
four and a half years later.
I don't know why, but they are.
So I would go, my personal brand preference is LG.
Second would be Sony.
third would be Samsung and I wouldn't do anything less than Q-L-E-D or OLED or Q-O-L-L-L-D I guess
or OLED, just pure OLED, whatever you can find in that way.
Q-L-E-D is very, very nice.
Yeah, Costco has the LG-C-4.
I think that's the new one that is kind of top of the line real, real nice.
So, yeah, there's my recommendation, Peter.
What a strange question to ask.
Also, it's Brian with a B-R-I-A-N, not B-R-Y-O-N.
Yeah. There are worse things he could have called me.
That's true.
Anyway, good luck to you.
I hope you will get the TV of your dreams.
It's a weird one to get.
All right, that's it.
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Brian, let's get out of here.
Play us a song, please.
Yeah, this one is going out to Terry Z in Chicago.
I love this.
My birthday is actually the 25th of January,
which this year is on a Saturday.
I'll be 78.
I know there are a number of us who share this date.
If I'm not mistaken, Claire and Rainbow Bright also share that same day.
Claire, who lives near where many of my ancestors hail from,
that being counties Armagh and Down, Armagh and Down.
So I'll refer to them for a birthday song.
Probably not his ancestors, but refer to Braembo Bright and Claire.
Well, I emailed him directly and said, no, you're getting your own day.
We've got a day for Claire, we've got a day for Rainbow Bright,
and we've got a day for you.
So he told me that one of his favorite artists is Armin Van Buren.
And I really like this cover.
This is a cover by Jasmine Thompson from her 2013 album bundle of tantrums.
It's a cover of This is What It Feels Like.
Nobody here knocking at my door.
The sound of silence I can't take anymore.
Nobody ringing my telling my telephone.
love for now
Oh, how I miss such a beautiful sound
And I don't even know how life survive
I won't make it to the shore without your light
Oh, I don't even know it's even know it's not
know if I'm alive
I without you now
this is what it feels like
Nothing to hold but the memories and friends
Oh they remind me of the battle life
I face
Without your love
Without you
I drown
Somebody save me
I'm going down
And I don't even know
How I survive
I won't
make it to the shore
without your life
No, I don't even know if I'm alive
Oh, without you now
This is what it feels like
And I don't even know how I survive
road with one headlight
No, I don't even know if I'm alive
Oh, without you now
This is what it feels like
Frog Pants, the F is for fun
The R is for right on, the OG is for OGs, that was good,
and then pants.
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