The Morning Stream - TMS 2773: Start With The Crust

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

With Pizza And Love. Pho-Net-Ick-A-Lee. Testicular Luminescence. Four and a Half Broken Noses. Scott can't worship the porcelain king. Tolbert Calhoun mixer. Delayed Pinchy Zoomy. Stretch Armstrong is Lethal. Whole ass Dunaway. Brian and the Micronauts. She was basically wearing porn. I don't like TMZEEEEEEEEEE. Finding Pockets of Alright. Rat full of dye. Bobby Swinging In On His Big Science Pole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Phonetically. Testicular luminescence. Four and a half broken noses. Scott can't worship the porcelain king. Tolbert Calhoun mixer. Delayed pinchy-zumi Stretch Armstrong is lethal Whole ass done away

Brian and the Micronauts She was basically wearing porn I don't like TMZ Finding pockets of all right Rettful a die Bobby swinging in on his big science poll And more On this episode of

The Morning Stream Jim Badley of Sebring, Ohio Is a football star A National Honor student And one of America's best young driver Jim took first place in the Amvets driver excellence contest and won a new car and a college scholarship. Jim has some thoughts about

safe driving. Sometimes we kids get a bum wrap and there's talk about safe driving, but safe driving has really paid off for me. It's not often you see a Mexican in a suit. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream. And as you know, it has a date. February 3rd, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Hello, Scott. Hi there. Look at your Disney love on the shirt today. I love it. A little stitch. Yeah. What I really like about this shirt is it's got like some weird. Oh, yeah. What is that? Oh, it's like his alien language or whatever. His alien language, yeah. That's awesome. It's probably like a lame Disney adult written in alien language. It looks a little like Klingon or something.

It kind of does. Yeah, I like it. Or she are for Marvel. This actually glows in the dark, too. Oh, puffy. No way. It's got ribs for her pleasure. Does it have to be, do you have to, okay, so there's a great question.

When I was a kid, all the things that glowed in the dark, with the exception of the things you cracked. And then they would glow. The siloom light sticks. Yeah. Everything else you had to have. have in the light for a period of time and then it would retain a glow for most of the day or the night that it would go away. Was that just giving us all testicle cancer the whole time and we didn't know it?

Like what was going on there? No, I think that's safe. It's not really, it's not like it's radioactive or anything. I think it's just a, like a absorption, light absorption kind of thing or a, what do they call that? Not bioluminescence, but there's a, there's a term for this kind of glow in the dark stuff. Now, the Psyllum light sticks, you know, you break one of those open accidentally. That's going to, you know, that's going to give you testicular cancer or something.

Something. Yeah, never. They always told us, like, don't open that. That's a whole different thing. It's like the light sticks aren't, hey, it needs to soak in light for a little bit before it lights up. Fluorescence. Thank you, Becca and Caducey. That's what that is.

It's fluorescence. Okay. I didn't know that had a name. I thought, so when you talk about fluorescent lights, what are they doing? They just, that takes electricity to light up, though. That, yeah, different, I mean, same principle, but something different about the way that it does that. Like, it's, as opposed to a filament, it's using, is it using, it's using a gas, fluorine, I'm guessing? Bobby says chemo fluorescence.

Phemo fluorescence? Interesting. Yeah, electricity passed through a gas. There we go. Yep. Biocal says the use of radium and glow-in-the-dark products, particularly in watchdiles and instrument panels, largely stopped in the early 1970s. So they... Radium.

Yeah, they must use radium for a while. For watchdiles and instrument panels. Okay. How come I got a giant lump on my wrist? Have I been wearing this watch too long with the radium in it? Yeah. So, well, there you go. So apparently we were using radium in those.

And watchdiles, watchdiles were. They were, there wasn't a situation where it would, you put in light and it just stays lit for a while. Those would be like, they were always lit. They were always like, they always gave off a thing. Instrument panels, too. As long as your car was on, your instrument panels would light up. So, not like the glow in the dark, like Chewy's arm or something. Or some action figure's arm or something like that.

By the way, Dr. Calhoun this morning let me know about, you know, that, that action. action figure company React, I think it's called React or Secret 7 or something. They always come out with like action figures from licensed properties that never had action figures originally. So like you could get, what's a good example of that? Like being John Malcovic, being John Malkovich action figures. Oh, is it reaction? I'm sorry, not Dr. Calhoun.

I'm sorry, Dr. Tolbert. Oh. I keep getting my doctor's mix. That's funny because Claire did that yesterday, where she called Jerry a not a regular doctor, but that he always had this medical advice. And then he's like, no, I actually, she was thinking of Calhoun. So that's a pretty funny thing to do one very next day. I confuse it, you know, confuse my real doctor with my, not a doctor. Not a doctor.

Oh, yeah, look at this. There's a whole bunch of these. There's like, what is this? Who knows? He says at the bottom. Okay, Motley Crew, so there's a good example. Yeah, there's a good example. Oh my gosh, do they have the whole set?

That's just funny. 80 bucks for the whole set. Does the Def Leppard drummer guy come with removable? I hope so. Anyway, they just announced, and maybe you'll see it in this scroll thing, Micronauts action figures. What? That's cool.

So they've only come out, they're only got two on previews. order, and of course I pre-order them, here's the funny thing. The two that they chose, like there were, you know, action figures in the micronauts line, there were about 25 or 30 different figures, time traveler and wing command or flight commander and a bunch of little alien, plastic alien ones. The two that they decide to do are Barren Carza and Biotron. Biotron originally was so big you could put an action figure in a little glass container or a little plastic container

on his chest. Oh my. That's how big he was. But now it's like this little three and three quarter inch scale biotron. And then Baron Karza, another one, like about, I've got one back here. He's about, you know, almost a foot tall. And yet they've got him in a little three

and three quarter action figure size. So regardless, I still preordered them. Heck yeah. Well, I mean, they're micronauts. It's you. It's Brian. It's Micronauts. They go together like cheese. using crackers or something. Exactly. I've got to buy it. Even though it's, you know, weirdly sized.

Yeah. I still got to buy it. I want a microtron. I'm hoping they come out with a microtron. Oh, that'd be cool. He was a cool little, he was short circuit before number five. Oh, right. He was that kind of looking, looking creature. At the box head, robot head thing and all that.

With the little, with the triangular treads and all that. Look like a little tank. Yeah. I got the only thing, the only toy my mom was worried I was going to get sick from. was if I opened up, somehow opened up my Stretch Armstrong. She didn't know what was in there. She was so worried about, like this thing, basically, this stretchy toy thing I have.

Whatever's in these things, she was terrified. Whatever's in there was going to kill us all. I'm like, well, don't get us, don't get us of Stretch Armstrong then, mom, for Christmas. What do you think? But as far as I know, that stuff's harmless. I have no idea what's in there. It's like corn syrup.

I don't know. It was like little beads or something in a goo, a goo with beads. Yeah, it was like a goo for me thing. It felt like corn syrup or something, but I would think that would crystallize over time. I have no idea what's in there. Someone in the chat will now look this up and tell us, which is fantastic. I'm sure.

Yeah, I'm sure there's something. It's Boba. Yeah, maybe it's Boba. It's just Boba. And now they're just putting in our drinks. Yeah. They got a big old, they got like crates and crates of old unsold stretch armstrongs back there, putting them in our drinks. Hey, speaking of things.

Yeah. Oh, we were talking about things. We were talking about things and stuff. So let's talk about this thing, this person. So we talk about Ringo Star a lot with the whole peace and love. Sure. Peace and love. I'm warning you with peace and love. Exactly. Well, I found something with him that made me laugh. And it's this. So he said in some recent interview on a talk show, I don't even know who the talk show is with, one of the late night talk shows.

He is famous for saying the following. Let me find the clip. It's right here. There it is. All right. So here's what he claims. Right here. I'll just play it. I've never had a pizza. Oh. Never had a pizza. never had a pizza. Yeah, and never had curry. He said this on Jimmy Kimmel, like a few days ago. All right, so as Kimmel, he said it. Now, here's the funny thing. If any of you at home thought advertising was real or that they were speaking truth to us when you see an ad for anything,

and he kind of ad on TV, if you think it's real, this proves that it isn't, because there is Ringo Star before a gigantic late-night audience saying he's never had a pizza. I've never had a pizza. Never had a pizza. What I love about this the most is the middle bit. I've never had a pizza. People going, what? It's the 70s audience, taxi audience guy. Yeah. So then I would say to Mr. Ringo Starr, if that is your real name, was this you in 1997?

To eat our pizza, rust first. Stuffcrest pizza from pizza ad. He did a stuffed pizza ad and he put it in his mouth. Now, maybe he spit it out, I don't know. He might have. Yeah, his explanation, uh, Kimmel was that he said there's so many things

that I'm allergic to that I just can't take a chance on it. So my guess is that if he did that for the pizza had stuffed crust ad, it was either, well, you better make that with bulgar wheat and not put any cheese in the stuffed crust. Otherwise it's going in the

bin. In the bin. I'm warning you with peace and love. Peace and love. Do not give me pizza, peace and love. Yeah, but yeah, no, he explained that Kimmel that he and it might just be that he he'll eat his own like if he were to make a pizza at home because he knows what's in it he'd eat it but but he yeah he explained that he's like he's got so many allergies it's not worth him to uh not worth them to chance it so who knows how pizza hot talked him into it i think it'd be funny i think it'd be funny if he lived the longest

like outlived paul you know he might he's the youngest i believe he was the youngest of the beetles i I think so. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought Paul was the youngest. Paul always just looked like the youngest. So what do I know? Oh, George Harrison was the youngest. Oh, that's a bummer.

I don't like that. Second to die. I thought for some reason I thought Ringo was the youngest, but, uh, hmm. Well, with peace and love, we hope he, uh, can get the pizza that will not disagree with him. That'd be great. Yeah. Uh, what else we got going this morning? I like the, I like the fastidious and both Bombats said George is the youngest, and then

bombats follows it with, duh. Like, of course George is the youngest. Yeah, is this common knowledge? We're all supposed to know the age lineup of the Beatles. I did know this. I did know this and completely... Yeah, but it's not a thing where you're all like, as a child, I was taught at an early age,

which Beetle was the oldest. It's not like a thing we all have to know. No, but as a Beatles fan, I remember, he's like three or four years younger than the next youngest. He was considerably younger than Paul and John when they started putting people together. How old is Pete Best? Is Pete Best, the older than all of them? Oh, I don't know.

No. Let's see. Beatles ages. I wonder if I wonder if I can get, let's see. So when the Beatles formed John Lennon was 20, Paul was 18. This is funny. So search labs, you know, the AI, Google, right? John Lennon was 20 years old when the Beatles formed in 1960. Paul McCrney was 18 when the Beatles formed in 1960.

Harrison was 19 when the Beatles formed in 1960. Harrison was 19 when the Beatles formed in 1960, so he was actually older than Paul. Then Rigo Starr says, born July 7th, 1940, Star was a member of the Beatles. So, once again, Google's AI results really suck. They're so bad. I don't know what's going on over there. I know it's a gold rush and everybody's trying to catch up. Pete Best, still alive and 83.

Ringo Starr is 84. So he's, Pete Best is actually also a year older than Paul McCartney. Okay, so, so wait, Paul McCartney is younger than George Harrison then? Paul McCartney is, no, George Harrison is the youngest. He is the youngest, 143, yeah. Paul McCartney is 82, Ringo Starr is 84, Stuart Sutcliffe was the same age as Lennon, and Pete Best is alive and 83. You know, I'll say this for, I'll say this for Ringo Starr. Yeah.

His hair coloring is pretty good for a guy who's eight in his 80s. Yes, his dye is a great, he's doing a great job dying his hair in that clip. I noticed that when he was on Kimmel and I was watching that interview. He also, you know, admitted that Bob Dylan was the first person to give him pot. Oh, introduced him, did he? Introduced him, yeah. Interesting. So, yeah, Kimmel says so, and is it true, the rumors that Bob Dylan was the first person to give you pot?

And he says, well, it was one of his friends, but it was in us, it was in the same room with him. It was Paul Dillon's pot, but one of his friends gave it to him. It was his pot with peace and love. He was his pot. It was his pot, and then I chucked it in the bin with peace and love. Oh, man, his stupid PSA will live forever. Oh, it's so great. Just the line, I'm warning you with peace and love.

It's, you know, I'm going to make a T-shirt. Just says, I'm warning you with peace and love. With his face, just kind of looking stern. With his face, you know, doing his peace sign. Do we ever, did he talk about Caveman at all in that interview? I always want to ask him about it. No. No. I just want to say, hey.

I was so hopped up on Harrowet in those days. It was me and Barbara Buck. We don't remember a damn, a bloody thing about it. I remember a bug squish on a face. That's it. With peace and love. Yeah. God, I wish I, that's the one piece of memorabilia I really still wish I had,

was the piece of paper they gave us to the movie theater that had the translation of all of the things that they said in that movie. Oh, my gosh. That was a thing they handed out? That was a thing they handed out. Oh. Not like you could consult it during the movie, but... What a cool thing, though.

Yeah. I wonder if there's... I wonder if people eBay. I'm sure somebody's got one on eBay, yeah. Love that idea. Brian, you might be sitting on a gold mine or $20. You never know. Well, I'm not sitting on anything because I lost it.

Well, that's true. I do still have my Quarks Bar menu somewhere. That's a That's nice That's a thing Yeah Miss that thing I wish they'd do it again

All right Well hey Got a phone call About logos Yeah let's hear it Yeah We were talking about Bucky's and their logo

Ripoff thing All that The lawsuit Although we didn't feel like The logo They were assuming Was all that bad But you know

Whatever They're fighting the fight This is a call About that apparently And it's got a little Marvel connection Here you go With regards to the

Fees and Dismist thing about drawings of Skeet and Marvel characters. I guess I think he said Marvel doesn't care too much, but there's a place here in town that is literally called Juggernaut Home Services.

Quite literally a cartoon drawing of Juggernaut, X-Man guy, hoping a Jackhammer looking all angry. I thought that was interesting. Love the show, though, yo, bro. Sweet. Terrible phone quality, and also this description made me think

it had something to do with the logos of Buckees and because I'm not screening these calls anymore I had no idea what this is about. I should quit guessing is what I should do. Right. It's time to upgrade your tin can. Maybe get the tin can 15 to send us voicemail messages. That's right. Yeah,

I think you'd think that that would actually cause a stir, but maybe it's such a small hometown company that nobody cares, you know? Yeah, there's a cleaner's not, it's called Apple cleaners, not a mile away from my house, that uses the Apple logo with a bite taken out of it. It is, like, they just looked up Apple online and said, there's an Apple, let's use that. Yeah.

Why not? That's great, though. I don't, for the record, too, it wasn't, it's not that D.C. is more litigious now and Marvel isn't. It's that back then, they were more so, because the internet was still sort of a fresh new idea. Nobody was putting stuff up online. Fan art wasn't really a thing. And if people were selling fan art at, like, conventions,

it was still like these companies would get all worked up about it. They don't do that now. They don't care now. It should be protected anyway under parody. Well, some of it is. But the problem is it isn't that it isn't protected. It's that if Marvel sues you, you're not going to go to court and fight that

because you don't have the pockets Marvel ones. So even if they're in the wrong, and you could prove your case, you're going to spend half a million dollars trying to defend yourself, and why would you? So that's how they do it now. Yeah, they don't care anymore. That's why cease and desist usually work.

It's because the threat of what it would cost you to defend yourself is more than, you know. For sure, it's more than worth saying, hey, come on, this is parody. It's protected, but yeah. I mean, but you think that they would say, well, we could go after them. This is parody.

Let's not. They're just like blanket. No, sue everybody. I think it depends. like Nintendo does that. They'll see you for all kinds of stuff. They'll take down your channels. They'll demonetize your commentary. All you have to do is like show a picture of Mario and they can go after. I mean, they can do it. It doesn't mean that they're going to win if it goes all the way. It's just that creators like us don't have the pockets

for that. So what do we do? We capitulate and go, okay, fine. That's one of the problems with any system of justice is that those with money tend to win. It's true. It's true. All right. So there's that. Hey, we also got this call about lift and taxes. That I know is for sure in this file because it's written on the file name. So let's find out what that's about. Hey, Sizzuki and Bugatti. This is Jason from Pennsylvania, Colin. Brian, last year you got me to start driving lift, make some extra cash. And I had a great year. I loved meeting people. And now it's time to do taxes. And I remember you saying you knew what to do. And you had figured it all out last year. So could you reiterate what you had to do so that I can figure it out? And maybe some other people might need to do so as well. Thanks so much. Love the show, though. I assume this stuff's like all over the Internet, but did you have some of the guys?

Yeah, I mean, basically, and hopefully at the time when I talked about this, you picked up a program. The one I use is called Everlands. And what it does is it's always running and it's always logging your trips. So would you leave the house? It sees the path that you take and logs it into a document that you can see and how many miles you went before you came back home. Now, granted, I leave the house other times that I'm not lifting, but because I lift during a certain time of day, usually, in certain days of the week, I can basically download that whole spreadsheet and delete the rows, just do a little formula that basically only shows me the rows that would be during the time that I lift. so here when you're when you're driving for lift lift and uber only pay you for the time that you have a passenger in your car

and you because you have to drive to get to them or you drive to go get gas to put in the car to go drive for lift or uber or all those other things all those other parts of driving or you get taken all the way out to the airport and you don't get a ride back so you have to drive back on your own um all those things are trips that you can log as business mileage because it's for your work. It's for Lyft or Uber, and you want to make sure you track that. So hopefully at the time, you picked up a little program called Everlands. If you did not, I definitely say pick it up now, for sure. I imagine, you know, you could

figure out what you're, you know, go for two weeks or something that you're doing Lyft and Uber and see how many miles, in addition to the miles that Uber and Lyft track, you're driving when you drive for those agencies and figure out an average, a daily average, and then apply that to the number of days you drove. Yeah. But I don't know if that, that wouldn't fly probably in an audit, but it probably gives you an idea of how much you should be seeing. Do they send you like a 1099 or whatever the hell? They do. Yeah. If you make enough, if you make over a certain amount, which is pretty minimal,

I think it's like over $5,000, $4,99 or something. Then they send you a form that you have to, you have to turn around and report to the IRS. Sure. And when they call it, is it the Everlance name because it's like freelance? Is that the idea? I think so. Is it track anything else? Like, can you put hours in there or say I'm a...

You can. You can log anything. I think you can log any of that stuff in Everlands. But it's primary reason. it's a raison de what is it raison de trey I'm sure I screwed that up is for tracking ride share but if you if like let's say you do a job

where you're doing sales calls you have to drive to go seek clients it tracks all that stuff for you too oh that's cool yeah if I was doing like hunched over a tablet doing animation for some company freelance I could track all that shit

track all my time I'm looking at it right now I don't see a place actually to enter in hours for that I would use harvest harvest I absolutely love for tracking hours and invoicing my clients

and all that sort of thing harvest is great harvest search for it by name harvest yeah harvest app dot com I believe is what it's called

and that's what I use for all my freelances is harvest nice so there's that Brian how'd your weekend go what'd you get up to it was good

I, so Tina I went on a mystery date Friday night. It was her time to, her turn to pick. So she took me to something called Nerd Night, N-E-R-D-N-I-T-E. And this is a monthly event

at the bug theater in, in Denver. And it's almost like mini, 20-minute TED Talks on subjects where somebody just goes into a very deep dive on something. And it's like,

wow okay cool I've learned I've learned I've got now a general knowledge about these three topics and the three topics that we had were the existence of life on Mars and somebody who actually worked worked for NASA and worked on two of the missions opportunity and the rover missions those things the rover missions and worked on two of them and explained you know what they do and how they get stuff you know get stuff to Mars and why it takes only, you know, 300 days to get to Mars, but coming back would take three years or something. Fascinating stuff, like really, really cool talk about that.

Then another person talked about the history of zines and how you can make a zine out of an eight and a half by 11 sheet of paper really easily and that sort of thing. And the first zines and the old punk zines of the 70s and the U.K. and stuff like that. Oh, Talley has sent me in a correction. Awesome. I wonder about which thing did I F up that she's sending me a correction for. And then the third one was, the third was the best,

spotting art forgeries from a woman who teaches classes and actually is an art historian and talks about the whole Vermeer fiasco and all of these, like these ways that they use non-invasive and invasive measures to identify art forgery. It's really, really cool. That sounds awesome. Crazy. It was really cool.

Yeah. And you get this great deep dive. You get this great crash course in learning about all these things. Super, super cool. Talley, I can't listen to audio during the show. You sent me nine seconds of audio that I can't play during the show. You're a bunch of damn distracting freaks for a reason. You guys know you've earned that title every damn.

day, right? I'll listen to this after the show, but if you really want to correct me with something that I can explain, like I can talk about live, you kind of have to do it as text. Also, if you want audio played, you probably should send it here because I need to pipe it through my shit. So if you're going to send that, send me a copy, and then I can play it live, unless you say something terrible, don't do that. But I can play it live if you want.

Anyway, you also saw the... So she said, it's a pronunciation. and pronunciation. So how should I present it to you, good sir? And I replied back phonetically. She put all the dashes and phonetic letters. That's awesome. That's awesome. All right. We also, yesterday saw the Marathon Brutalist, the three and a half hour movie with an intermission starring Adrian Brody and Felicity Jones and Guy Pearce. It's right in the middle, by the way, this thing, the intermission, they stick it right in the center, or is it? Right in the center, yeah.

We asked, we saw at a draft house, of course, and we asked the, because we went mid-afternoon thinking, all right, about intermission time is about when we'd want to order and eat dinner. So we asked about what time that was, and I figured it out and kind of glanced down at my watch to see when it was about 20 minutes before the intermission, and that's when I ordered food so that during intermission, We were able to just sit and eat in the light and not, you know, not order it at the same time as everybody else in the theater when the order, orders their dinner. But it's right in the middle. And what's really cool is they give you a timer on screen. It's 15 minutes.

And then they show like a wedding photo of two of the characters from the movie. And it's like, oh, this is kind of cool. Like while you're sitting there in intermission, you're kind of looking at these characters. And it's really cool. anyway so it was great it was a really good film it's not going to unseat

Conclave and Anora at the top of my list but it's it's easily in the top half of the movies for me so great I don't mind a long movie if it's good sign me up you know yeah it's it's very very good there's a little bit of

SA in there there's some graphic nudity, beware, just so you know, but for those of you who are triggered by those things, then you may, you may want to skip it. Yeah, if you don't like broken noses, just know Adrian Brody is all over this thing. His nose is a topic of conversations so many times in the show. So it comes up in the movie, crazy. It jumps up, yeah. Okay.

Like, yeah, they talk about his nose. Like, what happened to your nose? Oh, I jumped off a moving train and hit a tree branch or something like that. So the dude he's playing. Is this based on a real story? I assumed it was. Oh, I'm glad you asked that because I'm, I was not 100% sure. I think it is.

It's a Hungarian immigrant named Laslo Toth. Yeah. He's a guy that supposedly introduced brutalism as an architectural style or whatever. Hungarian-born. I haven't looked that hard into it, but I assumed it was real. Let's see. Wikipedia, who's the real? Oh, while Toth never existed, his character is based on two great Jewish-Hungarian pioneer architects.

So, nope, there is no, there's no Lajlo Toth, but they're, there, it's funny, there's a, the guy who vandalized Michelangelo's, Michaelangelo's Pieto statue in 1972 by that name. Wow. Wild. Yeah. Well, cool. I want to see it. Yeah. Give me stars.

Give me stars out of five. What do you give it? I give it I give it four and a half a broken noses out of five excellent perfect yes my gosh

Guy Pearce is freaking I don't know if Guy Pearce got nominated I can't remember if he was nominated for Best Supporting Actor but he should be because he's his his role he played he did a really good job yeah he's great I like that guy a lot

yeah he'll he's he's Professor he's Mr. Wayland to the starter of Wayland Utani, the nightmare of alien. He is, yeah. Never forget. There's another movie that's weird about that movie. The opening credits scroll sideways. So like listing all of the, you know, directed by, produced by all that stuff is all horizontal across the screen.

And the closing credits crawl goes diagonally across the screen. Whoa. Very brutalist of them to do that. Very brutalist, exactly. All right. Time for this. Be one of us and welcome Mr. Brian Dunaway to the program. Hello, Brian.

Oh, hi, Scott, Brian. Are you here to play a little Monday half-asses? Is that what you're here for? I'm here for the whole ass. Oh, geez. All right. Well, guess what we've got for you? The whole ass.

We've got the whole ass. Brian, who are we playing for today? What's on the docket for winning all that stuff? I'll give you all that information. Welcome to the morning. Half-Ass is a trivia game. I'm actually going to be giving you the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Bryant in category and six possible answers,

three of which are correct, and three, like assuming that if you are forced to throw up, it doesn't count, are in court. Depending on how confident they feel with the category, they can provide one, two, or three guesses, but if they get any wrong, they get zero points for that round. One right gets you a point,

two right gets you three points, and three right gets you five points. Good luck getting any of that. The player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their contestant, and here are the contestants I've pulled for members of the tadpool that aren't able to be here live. Scott, you're playing for Michael Miller

in Cottage Grove, Oregon. Nice. Mm-hmm. That's a great name. Yeah, I like it. Michael Miller. All-American name, Mike Miller. And Brian, you're playing for Scott Price,

aka Silas, in Tigard, or Teagard, Oregon. It is the Battle of the Oregonians. Oh, man. Oregon on display. That's awesome. That's right. Congratulations, guys.

Yeah, free weed. I don't know what that means. There you go. So, and we'll talk about what those prizes is our one of them is really really good well actually all three of them are really bad were you one of them one of them is like so good it's one that i spent money on to buy on steam and that's uh that's saying something that's an awesome let's get to our game here yeah guys are both logged in and ready to play i'm reloading reloading there we go all right question number one or i bet these are easy

totally this is so easy you guys have no problem with this uh which of these are confederate civil War Generals. Which of these are real actual confederate? What are you trying to get me killed? Yeah, totally are. Nathan Bedford Forrest, James Curry, or Jabez Curry, George Pickett, Jefferson Beauregard

Sessions, Ambrose Burnside, and Braxton Bragg. Which three of those are actual Confederate Civil War Confederate Civil War generals. There's only one I'm absolutely sure about. Well, there's one on here that's a little like it's trying to trick you.

I don't know if you, maybe, I may get the end and go, shit, I was wrong, but I'm picking two because I don't feel that confident. Well,

I'm going to go with two because I think maybe a place was named after this person. Let's see what happens. All right. All right. Well,

the one you guys locked in on immediately is Nathan Bedford Forrest. Forrest, and he absolutely was. Yeah, that was the only one I remembered for sure. A Confederate Civil War General. So you guys both got that one.

As far as the other two, you guys split. One of you chose Brexton Bragg. The other one chose Ambrose Burnside, right? Ambrose Burnside, by the way, the guy that was responsible for the term sideburns. That's where sideburns came from was Ambrose Burnside. Do he have sideburns? He was Ambrose Burnside was a union general. Brexon Bragg was a Confederate general.

Shit. Jebez Curry was a lieutenant colonel. and Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, who sounds like he should have been a Civil War general. He's actually the Attorney General about eight years ago. Oh, wow. That guy. Let's just say that I dodged a bullet there.

I'm glad to have the points, but I'm more glad that I didn't blow it. I thought the Bragg one was a misdirect. I screwed up there. I almost chose it and then thought, that's too obvious. Because then you got the brag. There's a place. I think there's a tank maybe. Or I'm thinking of the Abrams tank.

Never mind. But, you know, the Bragg thing is like Fort Bragg and all that. Anyway, I screwed up. Makes sense. Sure. All right. Well, Brian, going into the question two with three points. Let's see if Scott can tie.

Union soldiers. Come on. No. No, this is something that's far more important and more relevant in the history of these great United States and the world, really, as a whole. Which of these are Kardashians? Oh, God. Your choices are. Chloe, Caitlin, Kylie,

Robert, Courtney, and Tiffany. Three of those are... How fast can I answer to this? I know. You guys both... Wait, wait, wait. Oh, I did it wrong. Did you? Oh, it's too late. I can't take it back. Oh, I tried to put it in the other lane.

I clicked in that lane. Oh, I can't believe I just did that. You're welcome. You're welcome. Let's see how you guys did. You both immediately locked in on Chloe. I think just because it was the first name on the list. Yeah, Chloe.

uh, for sure. Uh, and then, uh, then you guys, oh, we actually, you both locked in on Kylie. Uh, yeah, yeah. Kylie's a Jenner. Come on. Kylie Jenner. Oh, shit. Yeah. Uh, what the embarrassing part is I clicked on Caitlin. I met Courtney. Yeah. I thought that was a something else now and didn't go by that anymore. I guess she, she might have a new last name, but she was a Courtney Kardashian. She and, uh, Robert. Robert and Chloe were the three answers. I got too cocky. I fell down in my face.

Do you guys see, I don't know if he still calls himself yee or whatever, but what's his name yesterday at the Grammys, his new? The great inflateball man. His new lady. Did you see what she was wearing? Holy. She's always wearing that. Every time she turns around, she's wearing something like that.

She's always getting naked. I should say, but she was not wearing. It was literally just a see-through thing. That's all it was. Oh, really? Wow. And I mean, like, you may go, oh, sometimes. Sometimes people wear the sheer this or that or it's evocative or kind of flesh-toned.

No, dude, she's freaking naked with a clear thing on- Like saran wrap or something. Yeah. You guys must never visit TMZ. She's like every week. She's like, look at my parts. I never, lady parts. I never go there. You're right.

I never visit TMZ. I also did not watch the Grammys, but I did watch a clip this morning of Chapel Rhone getting best new artist. Good for her. It is a feminine-a-nom-nom-nom-on. Sure. Whenever a celebrity dies, I always go to TMZ because they always have it the first and the best and it's always accurate. Yeah. Did you see, they are, unfortunately, they are the quickest to be right about the deaths.

I don't know what their deal is or why they have those kind of connections, but they're never wrong about celebrity deaths. Do you guys see Jaden Smith's castle hat? Look at this, Brian. No. Look at this. Look at me over here. Look at this. He wore that.

Do you see it? Oh, geez, really, okay. He's got a castle on his head. He walked around in that. It's not even a good, like, 3D printed castle. It's, like, made out of paper or some shit. It's, yeah, it's foam. It's like Bill Durand's, uh, wait room foam.

Yeah. This suit needs something. I know. You know, you want it light. Like, if you use resin for something like that, you're, you're going to be hurting, but. Anyone know what the symbol is? I don't know what it is, but it's on his lapel. Was that a thing people are wearing?

Something about respect? No, no, I was saying the castle is respect. Oh, I think it's got, I think it's Castle Grey Skull where the secrets of, they're held in there. He-Man goes in there. Speaking of which, the voice actor. A photo of what Kanye's plus one was wearing. That's what I wanted to say. Oh, I can't put that shit up.

I just got all blurred out. It's all right. It's basically porn. Speaking of which, they're not speaking of porn, what was I going to say? I was going to say something. Oh, the voice actor for He-Man passed away yesterday. Oh, no. 88 years old.

88 years old. Pretty, pretty long life. Yeah. I'm here to talk to you about your body. He sure did. Here's what you can show. All right. What do you got?

I love this photo right there. Oh, yeah. It's basically, they had to. She's nude. She's essentially nude in this thing. Holy Toledo. And normally what you'd do is you'd have some kind of underwear thing. at least on the bottom that's like made

out of flesh tone something. Nope. Yeah. Nope. It's just she's just wearing the sheer thing and Kanye just like yo, yo, what's up? Look at this. Look what I got? Have you seen our Michelin outfits? This is way better. Yeah. I can't even find like just putting in her name. I can't find an uncensored version of that outfit. It's so

it's just like yeah, Google, nope, not showing you. Even with safe search off, you're not seeing this. That's crazy. It was a real. It was I think Instagram is where I saw it and it was they didn't hold back you're like there's one on 29 secrets she's yeah not even uh not even attempt it's also funny how much she looks like uh kim karnashian oh yeah he has a type don't don't say that you're gonna cause problems whatever whatever the west household he has a type and he goes after him every time so it's fine yeah all i know is i would wear the castle before i'd wear that that's all i'm yeah

yeah this is the this is the one this is my life's damn name out of your moat. That's the one that's the one they post on Instagram before they did this one by the way. Michelin Man, have you seen this? I love that. Oh, now that I like. I'm the juggernaut, bitch. Is that, is that real?

Or is that AI generated? Apparently, he's been, he's been, they're getting bigger and bigger. I don't know if you want, yeah, those little jackets he wears, they keep getting bigger and bigger. That's got to be. This is not my beautiful suit. This has got to be AI. It's got to be. You would think so. Guess what?

I don't know. I'm going to have to, I don't know. I'm going to have to, I'm going to, I'm going to pinchy-Zumi later. There's something wrong here. I can't count any fingers. Yeah, there's other ways. Yeah, we'll look it up.

Anyway, sorry. Next question. Where the hell are we? We have a whole other question here. Again, score still at three for Brian, zero for Scott. Let's see how we do with question number three. Look at this list and tell me which of these things happened in 1950. Which of these things happened in the year in 1950?

Dr. Phil was born. The Korean War started. The first TV remote was introduced, AK-47 assault rifles entered production. Disneyland opened to the public, and Elvis Presley's first gold album was released. Holy shit. I don't know any of these.

I don't either. Some of these feel really right and others feel really wrong. Sure, yeah. I mean, I'm going to go all out. I got to. Yep. You got to. I don't think that's correct.

I'm not doing that one. I think that might be. and I'm doing that. I don't know. I'm going to that. That's locked in. If I'm walking out of that then.

Wow. Okay. All right. I saw the one you were, you were really iffy about, Brian. I say, selected the unselected.

Well, I was doing math. I just got through doing Dr. Phil math and I was still trying to do Korean War math. I was like, let's see.

I'm, I'm, da, da, dub, dub, I was like, I wasn't sure. So I was like, I don't have time to do the math.

We'll do with this. All right, sure. Well, let's see how you guys did. Scott, you selected Dr. Phil born in 1950. C-75? Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil was born in 1950, yes. I was born in 1950.

Come out here and let's all rub our nubs together. Freaking hate that guy. How do you know me? Let's see here. Brian, you were hesitant about the Korean War starting. Yeah, because I was reading about the Vietnam War yesterday. and I was trying to remember. I'm like, did it go first or second?

I'm like, I couldn't remember. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, Korean War started in 1950. Oh. And unfortunately, Scott, since you chose three answers, and that wasn't one of them, that means that you got zero point. First TV remote introduced, by the way, the other one you selected, Brian, or the one you selected was actually invented in 1950.

So here are your answers. Dr. Phil, Korean War, and first TV remote, the ones on the left side. side there. All 1950. Things that sucked in 1950. You should call it that. Yeah. The AK-47 entered production in 1947. I don't know if that's the reason for the name.

That is great. But if nothing else, it's a way you can remember. All-kill 47. Shite. That's right. Disneyland opened to the public in 55, June, June something, 1955, June. And then Elvis Presley's first gold album was released

one year later in 1956. I thought much later Real quick update The two separate AI image detectors Say that this is AI image Or image generator to deepfaked But not by much 55% is all on this one

This one thinks that image is About 45 to 39% AI versus human created So it's not exactly a clear cut one It may be he's got a coat that pick We need is just to help us. It still might be a generated, but we still want some video.

I want to see him walking around in that thing. Yeah, I want to see him moving. I want to see some practical. I want to see him walk into a wine store like George and not knock over all the wine. Exactly. Yes. Well, that means that Brian wins. Congratulations, Brian. And by proxy, that means congratulations. Going out to Scott Price,

aka Silas in Tigard, Tegard, Oregon. to guard. You are getting a copy of Jagged Alliance 3 and Fort Solis on Steam. Now, those are both great. I just want to say something for Brian says what our loser got. Those are both great games. They are. They're very good.

Jagged Alliance 3 in particular, very good, tactical term-based, post-apocalyptic fun. Great game. But I'm just going to say it now before you even say it. The loser won the better game today. By miles. At least in my opinion, too. Yeah, I would agree. Michael Miller, you are in Cottage Grove,

you were getting a copy of Against the Storm on Steam. All of these, courtesy of 9-10 Visions, big thanks to 9-10 Visions for sending these over. Very much so. And Scott Price, you should be glad that I tanked today. You've bloated. You've bloated. Because Against the Storm is one of my favorite games

the last couple years. It's so good. Scott Price is getting Jagged Alliance and Fort Fort Salis. Sorry, sorry. Michael Miller, is who I should have said. So you're going to be in the part of Oregon that truly won. Sorry, the rest of Oregon.

Anyway, that's fantastic. Congratulations to everybody involved, including Brian Dunaway, who's the big weaner today as well. Thank you. I like me a big word. Tigard. Tigard. Tigard. Tiggered. Oh, it's not Tiggered? All right.

It's not Tiggered. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, I just got Tigard. Yeah, I've been tigers. The guy at Sing Feet and Roy got tired. So now it's a verb. I like it. I don't want to get tired, man.

Got Royed. Congratulations. Good job done away you won. Now, here's how you're going to win again. You're going to step it up with me this weekend and play a bunch of dino crisis. Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah. You know what that is?

That's a crisis of dinoes. That's when all the dinoes are a problem. It becomes a crisis. Then you had to shoot those dinosaurs and you got to do it on your PlayStation 1. That's where you have to do it. They call it panic horror. So we're not doing Resident Evil, which is horror, horror. We're doing panic.

car rock yeah but it's it's uh capcom the redefining two different genres so uh you know we gotta we gotta give them some props so that'll be this weekend or this would be friday on uh 130 mountain time we'll talk about it again on wednesday uh but between now and then i'd like you to kiss our butts oh i'd call it a tie yeah you know that felt like you said it during the setup and i think that doesn't you can't count that it's got to be you've got to hit that button after it's like Alex Trebek you can't hit that button afterwards no no uh rest of soul wonder if if there is a heaven do you think he man or not he man if you got that voiced he man will get up there and like who greets him at the thing probably like uh big purple tiger

uh like it'd have to be other voice actors who passed like oh right there you go yeah i can't think of anybody casey casey casum would be there and he'd do like his best shaggy or something. I mean, I think Skeletor's still alive, Fustidius. He's around that guy. Alan. Melblank, I think his passed away to help greet him with the pearly Gates. He's probably in charge, right? He's like the... Probably is. Abidi, abdi, abdi, welcome

here, folks. Welcome here, folks. I said it, by the way, before Jeff H typed it. I just wanted, for the record. I believe you. It's an important record we keep here. It is exactly. All right, we're going to telly, uh, raison d'et. Oh, that was the correction? reason. Oh, I'm so glad that we spent 10 minutes or show time dealing with that.

I did find time to listen to her message. Fantastic. Perfect use of everyone's time. Brian, let's take a break. When we come back from said break, it'll be time to talk to our pal, Bobby. He's got some science to talk about today. All right, so that's happening. Whether you guys like it or not, he's swinging in. All right? On his big science poll, ready to give it to everybody, whether they like it or not. So Brian's going to play a song, and then we'll come back to that. Science poll. This was the boost of positive energy that I needed this morning.

This is a band called Goose. And a song called Give It Time. This is the first single from their brand new album, upcoming album, coming out April 25th called Everything Must Go. I think the Manic Street Preachers also had an album called Everything Must Go. They're right after the release of the album, they're going to headline a tour

called the Renovus Tour begins May 30th and Bend Oregon nearby Tigard and there are two winners Everything's Oregon today Yeah great

Anyway this This is something to just brighten up your Monday And just brighten up things overall Because my God we probably could use it The song is called Give It Time Here is Goose Feels like a premonition A storm behind your eyes

All of the questions As you lie awake at night Is this really what I wanted? Will I ever be? Anything but a pretender living inside of a dream. Give it time, go ahead and give it hell, and give it all you've got, or give it all you've got, I'll give it up for something else.

So revelation, so hallelujah, it's the nature of the spirit running through you. So take it easy, just begin again. Take a step back from the race that you've been running in. This is the next song coming on the radio, just when you need it. So turn it up, let it go turn it up and let it go

you follow the illusion the fear behind your pride come the morning you'll remember when you run and when to fight being honest will I ever be free from the expectation living inside my memory give it time go ahead give it hell give it all you've got or give it up for something else It's a revelation It's a hallelujah

It's the nature of the spirit Running through you Take it easy Just begin again Take a step back from the race That you've been running in It's the next song Coming on the radio

Just when you need So turn it up and let it go Turn it up and let it go Turn it up and let it go Turn it up and let it go Give it time Go ahead and give it help Give it all you've got

Or give it up for something else It's a revelation And so hallelujah It's the nature of the spirit Running through you So take it easy Just begin again And take a step back from the race

That you've been running in It's the next song Coming on the radio La' da, da, Da-da-da-da-ta-da-ta-da-da-ha-ha-ha-ta-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Y'ha-ta-da-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-oh-ha-ha-you-oh-oh. What's for dinner?

We're eating it now. We're having a happy meal. It's said to have magical powers. we're back. Who is that? That is a group called Goose from a new album coming out in April called Everything Must Go. That is the first single release, and it's called Give It Time. That's the shorter radio edit. If you like that and you want to hear more of it, there is a six-minute, six-and-a-half-minute version that I listened to this morning. I said, this is so good. Man, it's long.

Yeah. Festidious and whatnot in the chat both say, Goose is great. Goose is a good jam band. Cool. I've never heard of these guys. I really liked it. I heard this this morning. I said, oh, this is such a great.

This is the thing I needed this morning. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Okay. Let's get to the Bobby time. I like that. Bobby, get in here, boy. Here we go.

Add them to the call. Create. Okay. He'll be joining us, and we'll be having some fun. Let's click this. Science. Bob is hungry, and the soup looks good. hey look who it is it's old bobby a frankenberger and when i say old i don't mean like age

wise he's younger than us by a lot that's right uh but he's here like he is uh at least twice a month as our science correspondent and uh brand new month brand new science with bobby bobby what's going on how are you i'm doing all right uh is all right is is the year has allowed me to be so far yeah it's a weird it's a weird year to be all right in feels like we're you know yeah not really sure we're all that all right finding little finding little pockets of all right is what we need to do that's right that's right yeah no kidding that's the truth i was actually funny i don't know what made me think about this just now but i was almost going to have my daughter here with me because she was supposed to do like a shadowing day and she's going to she's shadowing me as a as a

as a podcaster and science communicator that got moved to Friday I was I was bummed because I was like oh you could be like on a show with me that would be great totally yeah yeah science science car junior science correspondent I'll tell you what if she wants

to pipe to pop in for a quick bit of experience with that with you on Friday's TMS Friday for patrons we'll do that so she I'll talk to you I'll let us know. If she's down, we'd love to do it because kids are great and F adults. So that'd be great.

Always here for the kids if we can. Well, that's great. Bobby, you know, it's a time right now where it feels like, and you can maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like some of our scientific endeavors as a nation, maybe even as a world community of scientists, is a little bit, not at risk maybe, but we're having a little bit of a problem right now with like suddenly funding disappears, maybe illegally, things like that. There's a lot to talk about in that regard, but I want to hear from you, kind of your take. You're a reason. Normally, Bobby's like the reasoned on the ground take. He's not here to sensationalize

anything or undersell anything. He's here to give it to you straight. So I'm excited to hear what you have to say. Yeah. Yeah. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, this government's role in science and whatnot because of things changing. And like you said, normally I try to stay out of, I try to separate my feelings about politics and my feelings about science. And I try to, in fact, a lot of my approach to politics has always been, you know what, I'm just going to focus on the science stuff and leave every leave all the other politics and economics and all that stuff to the people who probably can and i'm just going to what my issues are is science and that's right and that's served me well kept me from being stressed about you know uh elections and and politics in

general because i'm focusing on the thing that that i care about but um it's hard it's getting harder and harder to do that because the because science and it's it's it's it's spilling over and it's affecting how things go go happen in science a lot more you know what I mean yeah and we're only what two weeks into this thing so that's the big question is is the is is whatever the problem is whatever potential damage there is to programs either short term long term Has there been enough time to even really assess that? Probably not. And it's probably going to get worse.

I wanted to start with, I talked about this a little bit on the, on the TMS, or not TMS on the All Around Science podcast, the episode that's coming out today. I talk a little bit about this. And I just wanted to set it up with this because this is what made me go down a road of starting to really think about this and get a little bit concerned about it, which is, is this issue with red dye number three. Have you guys heard that the FDA just banned red dye number three? Well,

I remember growing up and being told that red dye number three was in M&Ms and stuff was going to kill everybody. It was five. I was red dye number five. It was the bad one when we were kids. I hadn't heard about three though. Is three the replacement for five? Is that what we get in the red dye?

Well, there's a lot of different red dyes. Okay. Sure. At least five of them by my count. Yeah. At least five. At least five. Yeah. But they're all like categorized and numbers.

because there's lots of different chemicals that can make different colors and are added as food additives and they all get tested by the FDA because we want to make sure we're not adding chemicals to our foods

that are going to be dangerous and back in I don't remember when this was I think it was the late 60s maybe early 70s there was an amendment made to the Food Drug and Cosmetic Act

called the Delaney Clause which basically said hey, we're prohibiting the approval of chemicals and food additives that are known to be carcidage, that are known to cause cancer, right? Makes sense. So they did that back in the 70s or early 70s. And so it's just, if we know, if scientific research tells us that something is going to cause cancer, we don't approve it. That's just the FDA. That's like the most fundamental of basic FDA guidelines, right? And if you're conspiratorial, you might say, well, course the ban now I mean it's easy to get into that whole argument but the the fundamental

idea is that if the FDA if a study shows significant cancer risk they don't approve it like that's risk risk is an important word and significant is an important word as we'll get into and i don't want to like i said i'm i'm just giving the background here for what the next part of the discussion which is so i don't want to spend if you want to know a lot of the details just listen to all around science that came out this week on today. I go into a lot more detail. But just know that in 2022, some organizations raised a petition to the FDA to request them to look at

Red Food Diet number three to see if the to go back and look at it again with some evidence to see if the Delaney clause would apply to see if they could get it banned. Ultimately, the FDA did decide to ban it in foods and ingested drugs. I just told you what the Delaney Clause was. The question is, is red, you would presume that that must mean that red number three is carcinogenic, right? They went back and looked at it. So what is, is it? The question, that's the question, is it actually carcinogenic?

And the short answer is, almost certainly it's not. The way that, so the evidence that they looked at was decades old. I think it was from maybe back in the age. 80s. So it's not like there's new evidence that they looked at. They looked at some old evidence primarily focused on two studies in male rats where red dye number three caused thyroid tumors. But the thing is that the reason the evidence isn't great and that it's not really of concern. And the FDA, by the way, had already looked at this evidence to make their decision or similar evidence to make their decision in the first place. But the studies, they used

massive amounts of of red dye number three to in these rats. They gave them you don't need to know all the numbers, but just know that they were, it was 25, almost 25,000 times more than the daily recommended intake.

Jeez, Louises. That's a, that's a rat full of dye is what that is. Yeah. Yeah. That's more dye than rat. I'm just going to say it. I really think it feels like it is. But it was more, it was worse than that though. They gave them 25,000 times more of the daily recommended intake, but they gave

that to them every day of their life for their entire life and then assessed the rats after their death. So they had thyroid tumors. Turns out when you pump a rat full of a lot of chemicals, like way more than anyone would ever be able to take. It's going to have some bad effects. the other thing was that they found that the mechanism that caused tumors in the rats like the the the biomechanism that that goes from red food dye in their body to growing a thyroid tumor that mechanism doesn't even exist in humans so it's not really a risk all right so the question is um why did they ban it okay And that's when we start to get into some thoughts about politics and things that have been happening recently.

So one thing that I can say, and I want to try to make, I'm going to try to make it clear where the facts are and where the analysis is, in my opinion. Okay. Sure. One thing that we do know is, like I said, the evidence is old. And there was a statement in the statement that the FDA made to say, hey, we're banning red food diner. number three. That was the first, the first paragraph of the statement that they made. The first like sentences, hey, we're banning red food dine number three. And then at the end of that same paragraph, I'm going to read you what it says, because to me, this is really telling and

sort of leads me into the direction of thinking these things. And other people, too, this wasn't an idea I came up with on my own. Sure. But what they said was, and here's the quote, the way that red number three causes cancer in male rats does not occur in humans. Relevant exposure levels to red number three for humans are typically much lower than those that cause the effects shown in male rats. Studies in other animals and in humans did not show these effects. Claims that the use of red number three in food and in ingested drugs puts people at risk are not supported by the available scientific information. Okay. All right.

Let that sink in a little bit. After they said, we're banning red food number three. They then said that, yeah, red dye number three. They then said that. To me, that sounds a little bit like, you know, like the joke I made on the podcast. I don't know if I kept it in the podcast recording that I did, but the joke I made while we were recording was like it feels like, you know, you want to lean in and be like, blink twice if, you know, the, if, you. if you are safe right now and saying this of your own. You know,

it feels like very passive-aggressive or very like, like we're banning it, but we don't really think it's necessary to ban it. You know? Yeah, and usually that doesn't come from the same, those arguments don't come from the same agency. Usually it's like, yep, we're banning it.

And then you get a competing science journal document saying. And the, you know, the reports weren't conclusive. which is why they're banning it, but it probably won't cause cancer. But the fact that it's all coming from the same place is crazy. Not that's the same place, but in the same document and the same paragraph of that document, right? Like, it's like they said, we're banning it, but we don't want to. Right.

Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, it does kind of sound that way. Like they're saying. Yeah. So, again, that's speculation. They're not actually saying that, but it seems pretty obvious that they're saying that the evidence does not support the decision that they're making. Right. So why are they doing it? I keep saying that over now.

Well, is it their way, let me ask you a quick question. Is it, is it, is it simply come down to a poorly worded way of saying because it's not, we no longer feel it's 100% conclusive and until it is, we're taking it off the market. Or if that is what they meant, they, why didn't they just say that? Like, that happens sometimes. If there's a concern. I can't say exactly why. I know that, so historically, the way that the FDA usually makes these decisions about things that should be allowed in food and not allowed in food are based on what are called risk assessments. There's a difference between hazard and risk. So whenever, so a hazard is, so with like biomedical stuff, a hazard would be, does a mechanism exist that could potentially? potentially cause harm, right?

So hazard just means it is possible that harm could occur. Risk is like the likelihood that that is actually going to happen. My favorite example of hazard versus risk is to say, if you're at the beach, a shark in the water is a hazard to your health, right? Yeah. But if nobody is in the water, then there's no risk, even though there is a hazard. Okay. All right.

Interesting. So that's an example. Yeah. So whenever researchers are doing toxicology studies, they're assessing hazard. They're saying that's why, like, you might think it's silly. Why do they take these rats and pump them full of 25,000 times the recommended daily intake? It's because they're assessing hazard. They're saying, is there a mechanism by which we should, something could happen and we should be concerned about and look into it, right?

So that's what these toxicology studies do. So that's what they were doing. They found a hazard with this dye in the rats. But the FDA is making their decision based on a risk assessment. Does it actually cause things? Now, by the way, if you go and look at the news surrounding this red dye number three thing, you're going to see a lot of differing opinions. And a lot of places are just reporting it and reporting what other experts are saying.

This is a very fraught area of, this is very controversial because there are a lot of, a lot of organizations that advocate for, you know, a lot of science organizations even that advocate for removing food additives and everything. And sometimes they're just, sometimes it's agenda driven and sometimes it's not really firmly planted in science, you know, And it's all, again, it's all surrounding this hazard and risk thing. But the FDA typically makes risk assessments. And that's why they would, that's why they allowed this in the first place is, is because of risk. But the thing is back in June, if I say Chevron deference, do you guys, have you ever heard that before? Do you know what I'm talking about? Chevron deference.

I'm going to, let me, let me guess. Chevy said, I don't care if you don't like the new Corvette. That's, we're, we're in deference to that. That doesn't work. Chevron's too, and it's also the, the, the, Chevron's an oil company, right? Oil company. Oh, what am I thinking? I'm thinking Chevrolet.

You're not talking about the shape Chevron or the things they put underneath the news stories, like the little Chevron. No, it actually does have to do with the oil company, but only because they were involved in the court case from a long, long time ago. What Chevron deference is, so we have a lot of laws in our country, right? And many of these laws are written in ways that are ambiguous. But the laws impact decisions and policies that agencies have to put into place federal agencies, right? So in order for the, for federal agencies to make decisions, they often have to interpret the laws.

Chevron deference is a legal doctrine that kind of got put into place back in the early 80s, mid to early 80s. And what it did, it was it allowed federal agencies. to interpret laws without having to worry about getting the courts involved because that would slow down so many things that the agencies could do. And the agencies are typically, these federal agencies are typically employed by experts in their field. So they're better suited to often interpret and make these kinds of decisions that would be slowed down by courts. Who would have to call the experts in anyway, right? So that's what Chevron deference is. It's been great. It's been in place for 40 years

and I was looking into it it's actually considered one of the most cited legal doctrines in all of administrative law it just gets things done Chevron deference I'm never going to forget it now I like it yeah yeah it's it's the reason it came into place was because of some

like coal or fossil fuel plant or something like that that was the EPA was getting involved it's the diesel's launch specific but Chevron was involved in the in the court decision so yeah they called it chevron deference sure um that chevron deference was overturned by the supreme court in june of last year um that was a quick one and yeah and so what happened what that means is it it shifted the authority from experts in federal

agencies to the courts so the authority is no longer in the hands of experts it's now in the hands of federal courts. And most places that you read about it will tell you that this was not a great move. At least most of the places that I read, I'll give that caveat. Say that the switch from Chevron deference or overturning Chevron deference makes it so that expertise is no longer something that is being relied on in the courts and so a lot of some people myself included think that that's what's going on with the FDA right now is that in a situation where they're being asked to look at and having a lot of pressure put on them to look at this this red dye number three they no longer have

the historical backing of Chevron deference to rely on in order to feel confident in making these decisions and so now they are going to cave basically because of so when you say the courts not to rely on on expert opinion anymore that being of scientists and you know those kinds of quote unquote witnesses and experts that means that I'm trying to picture in my head how one of this is work let's say somebody said one day uh you It has been determined, this is completely fake in making this up, but it has been determined that the potato is poisonous, and we've been eating a poisonous thing forever,

and the reason that we have such high cancer rates right now is because of these damn potatoes. Okay, cool. Do you go, so you take it to court, let's say you take it to court to get the banning of a potato as a food stuff, and you no longer have to argue from the point of view of experts on either side of that.

You can just say, well, Like, what is the legal basis now? Like, is there? Well, there isn't, so I'm not a lawyer. I'll caveat that. So I don't know a lot of how it all works. But I know what I do know is that this legal doctrine that allowed the agencies to make those decisions is now able to be just made by the courts. Now, the courts will typically, they're going to use, try to get experts.

involved anyway. So I'm not saying that that's going to disappear. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is that the courts can intervene whenever they want now and they can make these types of decisions with or without expert opinion. And it puts it in the place. So one of the concerns here is that federal courts are appointed positions. They're not. They're not beholden to the public in any way. I mean, they are in a sense, but you know what I mean? Like, they're appointed positions. They're not elected positions, is what I'm saying.

Right. There's, there's, and if you combine this kind of idea with these recent changes with like Schedule F, you know, the Schedule Policy career changes that have been made in the government where, you know, it makes it easier to, the, the executive. order that was done not too long it makes it easier to fire federal employees who are not loyally executing

the president's will that makes it what it does is it creates sort of a chilling effect in these in in the civil service and makes people especially in science a lot which is already

a fraught like a lot of science is already fraught with things like environmental things we've got like climate change science we've got other other sciences that that fall under you know what the

there was that memo that recently came out I'm I'm scattering a little bit because all these thoughts running through my head lately and I haven't organized them all right it's all right it's all right there was a not too long ago it's a I think maybe a week ago there was that that memo which did get rescinded, but there was a memo that went around saying that a lot of federal agencies got told to freeze their grant fundings.

And it was all grant funding that had to do with, quote, DEI, woke gender ideology. That's their words, woke gender ideology. Literally on the memo, it said that. And the Green New Deal, which, whatever, nobody calls it the Green New Deal anymore. But all the, like, like, it's got people, it has an effect on. how science is done, how science is funded, and the decisions that people make. And I think that we're just seeing science is going to, we're going to have a problem with science in our country for a little bit because people aren't going to know, are we going to get

funded? Are the things that are, the decisions that we're going to be trying to help inform? Are they even going to, you know, is this going to influence policy in any way whatsoever, which well these federal agencies which are trying to like think about the CDC yeah about the FDA all these things you always worry or you think about like what's what are the what is the long-term damage with stuff like this like let's let's say something fundamentally changes with how studies are received implemented or otherwise approved uh and it's you what you worry about is how permanent that is or how hard it would be to dislodge it down the road in when another generation is trying to deal with these things or whatever um and i may be a

little too optimistic but i always think about things like prohibition uh they put it in they took it out and it was an amendment to the damned constitution like it was a big deal right and uh and yet that still happened um i'm not saying that's the best example because it's kind of a fraught example of you know alcohol consumption has its problems like do you know what I'm saying like it's not as clear cut to me as saying something's bad for these rats or isn't um so it's it is different but you know what I'm saying you would think that it's clear cut but still the FDA bandit right right right and so that's that's what's causing me to think all these things and make me wonder about these things but you're not wrong scott like the the idea that these types of things can be

put into place laws uh and stuff can be put into place and then taken away in when the next administration comes in is a it's it's existed obviously because there's a legal basis for it happening now i guess um but uh but it's happening so much more now where the and and it's like whiplash in the past couple of weeks where, you know, a president comes in and says, well, we're just going to redo and undo everything that was done before and we're going to redo it again. And again,

it's not the first time this has happened. It happened before where a ton of Obama's stuff and, you know, presidents do this is what I'm saying sometimes, but it just feels like it's happening a lot more and it's creating or it's either it is creating or it's going to create a sense

of instability. And that's a big problem with the government in general, but science. So we like to pride ourselves here that we attract a lot with all the universities that we have, with all the federal funding for science and everything, we attract a lot of people who want to do science from around the world, right? Yeah, some of the best and brightest, you would argue. So if we create an unstable environment where at the very least, scientists don't know

whether or not their you know research is going to continue to be funded they're going to go somewhere else and and and also current stuff that's being worked on is going to have to be moved and it's going to slow things down and and we're at a time when you know like especially with climate change in the environment we're at a time where we need lots of science happening quickly. And then also, you know, like think about the pandemic. That science had to happen very fast. We can't have people wondering. Yeah. Like we need stability in order for these kinds of things to happen. Yeah. See, my biggest concern isn't so much to tack on to my point about if you can introduce something that was a bad idea, you can take it away. And so that, you know, in the long

run we can we can we can amend ourselves um my biggest worry is the division is so bad that if we end up with this seesaw effect of every four years everything the last administration did gets rescinded and new stuff gets put in place whether you favor those new things or not then you wait for the next cycle and that division is so hard that now they win and now they rescind everything that's that's that is the definition of not stable. Right. One of the great things about is coming from. You have ideological differences over a vast amount of time as long as we've existed

as a country, but there was always this sense of like generally we keep moving, generally speaking. Right. Always there's bumps. Always there's dips. But there's this general continuity when the old people leave and the new people come in, you don't go and just like set everything on fire and start over. does that is a precedent that now the next group is going to demand that like the constituency

of those who are mad now you know what they're going to ask for the next time quote unquote their people win is a gutting again and I'm not even saying that those things shouldn't be gutted what I'm saying is that pattern is bad that is unstable and untenable it's not good and you know what else it does is it creates a general sense that like in people a lack of ability to trust what's true like you know we're we have this problem now with people not being able to know what what what is true and what's not and if you add that to well this science is being ripped out and these other this new stuff is being started like people are like what is people are like what is people are People begin to lose trust in the process of science, even though it's not, even though it's not necessarily the scientist's fault. It has this effect, right? And we've seen it polls since, especially since COVID, the public trust in science is just is going down and down and down. And that's a problem, you know, and it's all connected to this instability.

And I'm glad you brought up the instability because that's kind of, you're helping me realize that that's kind of at the core of the thing that's bothering me so much right now is this is this instability. Yeah. And the instability, I mean, it's like anything. It's like a family. It's like a, it's any relationship. Like if I come into my, if I come home, I work from home, but let's say I was coming home from the office like I used to. And I walked in and immediately said, there's a pretty good chance the house is going to be on fire. tonight. Everybody be vigilant. Also, we're having dinner. Isn't this great? Who left the TV on? Like, if I'm constantly going back and forth like that, the family is going to go, it's not going to go well. Yeah. And it's so easy to ruin. It's so easy to walk into a building and break everything that it is to build stuff that matters or to alter things that make them better. It's so easy to just come in and destroy things. And some people think that's all, that that's what you absolutely need is to destroy things. to fit them to be your image. So knowing all of that, I hope the ultimate outcome of all this is we find a way to get back to it being boring when it transitions. I just needed to be boring again. That's what I was saying at the beginning, right, is that I've always stayed out of politics and I've always been comfortably nestled in my seat and just keep my head down and look at what's going on in the world of science and just let all this kind of pass, you know?

Yeah. But it's, it's becoming hard to do that now. And yeah, it's not, is this what people who get, get off all in a tizzy about politics feel like all the time? Yes. All the time. Yes. They feel like this all the time. They feel like this all the time. And they, and they think, again, that they, we've been taught and successfully taught, I might add, that it's all about left and right. It's, it. That is the biggest lie we've ever been told them. We all bought it. It's about up and down. That's it. It's about being down here and punching up there. and them wanting to keep us as split as possible. And until we as a human beings figure out a way to stop thinking it's my neighbor's problem and realize that he and I are in the same boat regardless of how we may feel or which side we got convinced to be on, it's up there's the problem. And we got to figure out a way to do that.

That's really the end game for me is finding a way in my own little circle, whatever that, whatever influence I have, that's where I have to do this. the fight is not horizontal. It is vertical. Like a big, like a big, I don't know a good word for it.

A big vertical thing. A tower? A tower, sure, a tower. I like tower. Well, this is interesting. Going big local is supposed to go on wide and failing. Exactly.

So real quick note. Here are the things you're going to see right away without red number three just to get back to this banning. Oh, okay. Ooh, good. Love a list. Yeah.

No more rainbow sprinkles. Well, they'll put something else in there, but that's, they will no longer be using a rainbow sprinkles. I don't even sure what those are. I assume it's the stuff. Just the red part of the rainbow sprinkles. Okay. You're not going to go heavy and yellow. Candy corn's, specifically candy corn, lollipops of various kinds, jelly beans of various kinds, and those candy necklaces that your kids would chew on them, get all the sticking gross.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying I want those to go away, but I'm saying you got to look for your silver linings, okay, because those are gross. I really are The string gets all soggy and gross Yeah Yeah it's bad They even said in their statement

That they were like Because not a lot of things have read number three anymore Because this the California You know California is always like If they smell even a hint of cancer somewhere They're like God ban it Yeah They are very big

They got water Yeah So they did this back in 2023 And there's so many people in California that companies are like, well, I guess we're getting rid of it because we want to be able to sell it in California. So the FDA even said at the end of their statement, like, not a lot of things have read number three anymore,

but I guess we're doing this. Well, and they also, okay, so here are the other ones. This is going to, Claire, I hope you're sitting down. Are you ready for this? Although she lives in part of the world where they don't care. But vegan meats, including imitation bacon and sausages. So watch out. Beans, you're in trouble.

red or pink frosting, so no more pink cakes, strawberry milk or nutrition shakes that use the dye, chewing gum of various kinds, gummy vitamins will all change, and mashed potato mixes, which threw me for a loop. Everything else on here makes sense, but you're telling me there's red dye number three in my mashed potato mix. Weird. Yeah, what, that's crazy. You certainly can't tell.

The red is gone, so. Yeah. What color is that stuff without? Yeah, right? Exactly. exactly. Anyway, oh, and peeps, peeps are screwed. So if you miss your peeps or you want your marshmallow pink peeps, done. Let peeps go. Let peeps just die a horrible death because those things are nasty.

Yep, D-I-Y or D-Y-E, a horrible death. Get it? Die. Well, well, done, yeah. Well, Bobby, I hope that the end result of all this is, like we said, some semblance of yeah, it's a normalcy and just stability. Nobody's asking for, it's never going to be perfect, right? Because that's the whole point. Science is great because science is like, we don't have all the answers. And some people look at that and go, bro, how dare them then?

No, the answer is that we're always looking for them. And we may get an answer once and go, this is the answer. And 10 years later go, we have better techniques now. It turns out that isn't the full answer. It's more complicated. Here's the new answer. That's good. We want that.

Yeah. There's no such thing as absolutes. except for the statement that there are no such things as absolutes. It's the only absolute you can count on. And the vodka brand, I suppose. That's it. Oh, that don't remind me. Do you like, you like a little, you like a little absolute?

I do like the absolute. That is a second, second vodka of choice. I prefer, oh, the big tall, what is it called? Not gray goose. Stratos, no stratosphere's gin. Anyway, yeah. Well, the good news is red dye number three. in vodka immediately.

So we're all okay. It's all good. It's vanquished immediately. Well, Bobby, as always, pleasure and, of course, more of this on all-around science, which you can get anywhere to get your podcast.

We also have an episode of the instance coming up on the 14th. No. Is that what we said? I think so. It's on my calendar. I'll figure it out.

Two weeks from today. There it is. 16th, sorry, 16th, Sunday. Sunday. We're going to record that that day. Yeah, yeah. So that'll be then. Watch for that.

And this latest episode all around science going to talk more about red dye number three and these surrounding issues. Bobby, is there anything else? Links for letting me rant. I do it about once a year. Any time. Oh, dude, even your ranty, venty

has like scientific value. I think. Exactly. Yeah. Because you do it in a scientific way. I just had a ranty venty at Starbucks. Oh, they're so good. It was a venty ranty.

Yeah. It's a venty ranty. They still taste a little burnt over there. Oat milk. Oatmilk venty ranty. I dare you to order one like that from from a drive-up and then you record it for the show as you should do

Sterley get a ranty venty well anyway if you want to do that thing Friday let me know we'll have you and your daughter on I'll let you know I'll ask my daughter she's very shy so she might not want to and even if it's just for like 30 seconds tell her if not totally cool too but she is welcome

during her week of following dad around have a fantastic rest of your week we'll see you soon see Bobby all righty Brian, we're back at it here on the end of the show here. Yes, we are. I do have a couple of things. One thing I will give you if I can find it.

Did you want to talk about that thing we pulled from the top due to time? Yeah, I dropped. Somehow I lost, how did I lose our notes? It's still up at the top for me, the one-eyed Brian Ibit. I mean, my whole sheet went away. What happened here? Here, well, I can copy and put that down there. I found it.

Okay. Here it is. Okay, a couple things. Monday show, a little bit later, noon. All right? Me and Carter. She's back from Sedona. She's back from Sedona. She had a crow follow them around for like a day.

We're going to talk about all that. Wow, really? Yeah, it's exciting. It was not, but it had three eyes, so maybe there's hope. Yep. A quick note about the Film Fest. Submissions closed. We did it.

I gave it a whole extra 10 hours into the first, just for the heck of it. But it's closed. Submissions are done. Judging will happen soon. Winner will be chosen soon. Watch for that. More info there. And finally, this note,

about the one-eyed Brian. Ibit. Zerick wrote in. Ohio-ass Warlock is what he wrote. Ooh, love it. Okay. He's great. He says, ahoy, catching up on this week where I heard Brian Ibit talk about needing only one eye contact. Does this imply that Brian could theoretically wear a functional prescription monicle? You could. One hundred percent could. Yeah, I totally could. Would I? No, because that's a lot of strain on the muscle of this, you know, like keeping it kind of pinned in there, monocles were a great idea. If you just needed something like really quick to like put in your eye and like, look at that, oh yeah, that looks good.

Or if you put it in there right before you know, you're going to be surprised about something so you can go, ball. Have it to fall out. It is a trope you see a lot. I think you, for fun. Yeah. Some, okay, some enterprise. We used to have a guy that worked at an eye center place.

Yeah. And he sent us glasses once. In fact, I think these might be the pair I got for. from him. Oh, really? I'm not sure. Maybe the Raybans. No, no, no.

It was a dude who worked in a place. He's the one that talked to Morgan Freeman for a minute. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And Morgan Freeman asked about what show he was playing. I'm liking this podcast. I might just have to subscribe to it. I might have to. Anyway, if he's still listening, I haven't heard from him in a long time, if he's still listening,

and you have the wherewithal to make a monocle? Yeah, I'll send him my prescription information. That would be so cool, dude. I just think Brian having a prescription monocle in his possession is a rad idea. So let us know. Anyway. Can you get a quality prescription monocle in about half an hour? Has to be 30 minutes or less.

Yeah, exactly. Or it's free. Do like dominoes. No, it's not dominoes. I don't think it operates like that. You know how dom. Oh, go ahead. Yeah.

I was going to say, no, no. Finish the talk about. I was a good thing. I learned something about dominoes this week. the reason they stopped their 30 minutes or it's free thing, I always wondered about why. So I dug in a little bit. The reason they stopped doing it is because they were having massive accidents

that ended up killing two people. Oh, God, the drivers would be like scramble because it probably came out of their pay or something. Yeah, so they had to haul ass. Oh my gosh, my video thing did that thing. I love it. I love that a lot of domino's drivers died. Ballo!

Yeah, balloon. Three! Give it a thumbs up. Anyway, I thought I turned all that off. Anyway, they had all these accidents. It took two people dying, though. Like one happened. They called it a fluke and just whatever. And then eventually it happened again in a whole different city.

And they just felt like they're like, we can't do this anymore. So now they do this thing. I don't even know if it's that public, but they do a thing called secret. No, bonus. Emergency pizza. That's what it is. So if they're late with your order, they'll come with your order plus an extra pizza. as a way of saying

sorry that was late here's your emergency pizza and they did that right around the pandemic because the pandemic everybody was getting delivery from everybody and Domino's had a drop in deliveries anyway it's the whole thing I don't know why

I took this deep dive on Dominoes and I don't know why I did it but I did. Anyway you were going to say something and I yeah so one of the other things I did this weekend I'll just do this real quick is went to a thing called basement bowl this guy named a friend of ours named Leonard twice a year has everybody in all of the trivia teams that I belong to come to his house

where in the basement he's got a table set up with four or five chairs on either side a buzzer system video audio and basically everybody who shows up or a lot of people who show up write a trivia game and present it to the other people who show up and play so it's almost like a d and d thing except with trivia and the the DM change changes every 45 minutes. Oh my gosh, that's kind of cool. It's really cool. I want to do a little mini documentary, a little YouTube mini documentary in six months when we have the next one and just show people what it's like because it's a blast.

That's really cool. You've never even heard of that. One of the questions I got that I'm very proud of because I talked my way through this whole thing, the rest of my team staring blankly at me. And the trivia question was, and it's all the way the trivia question was word in a very confusing way. But basically, the answer is going to be for actors, actors slash actresses. The original two met during filming of a movie or TV series. And then he cheated on her with another actress,

and they split up, and then she, the original wife, was in a movie with another actor where he cheated on. her and all four of them ended up in the Harry Potter franchise named these four performers it's got to be the old the old British people right like like it's British people so it's not like so yeah the question is it like the kids or is it old the old actors all right do it again it's older actors so uh the the original two met during filming got married um he cheated on her with another actress and she later was in a movie where she got cheated on by another by another actor and all four of them are Harry Potter actors. Oh, I'm going to make a guess here.

Yes. Second movie, Dark Arts Teacher, Kenneth Brana and Big Googly-Ey-eyed, what's her name, teacher? They're both in Harry Potter. Trilani. Trilani. He cheated on her. I think if I remember, I heard this somewhere. I don't know who with, though. See, this is the problem. It breaks down after that.

Am I getting there? Am I on the right couple? Yes. You're very much getting there. Okay, so I remember that was a fairly public breakup or fight. And then... It was. Yep.

So he had an affair with somebody in the Harry Potter cast? Yes. But not during filming of Harry Potter, but had an affair with a Harry Potter, a future Harry Potter cast member. Oh my gosh, dude. Or did they? It was in 1995. No, there wouldn't have been, there wasn't a Harry Potter movie.

Not yet. There wasn't even a book yet, I don't think. Maybe there was. 97? Whatever was. And then she, so you figured out the original couple is Kenneth Brunna and Emma Thompson. Yeah.

And then she was later in a movie where her husband cheated on her. He's also a Harry Potter actor. I'm trying to think of other adults who aren't like ancient. It's like Maggie Smith or something. No, I'm looking. that a, I'm talking about a dude, a dude who cheated on her. Oh, oh, right. A character, movie character.

Not in real life, but a movie character in a movie cheated on her. Shit. In a whole different movie, though. That's right. Was it the Christmas one? Uh-huh. It is, yep. Okay.

Making it. Making it. So the actor is Mr. Potter. Uh-huh. Snape. Uh-huh. Snape. The name is wrong name? Alan Rickman.

Alan Rickman, yep. So, Alan Rickman. So now all you need is who Kenneth Brunna cheated on Emma Thompson with, and you've got this. Hellabonum Carter. That's exactly right. Really? Helenabom Carter, yeah. With Bellatrix LaStrange.

Because she's the only other, well, her and the one young, the one that was with Vargas. I get to give her name. Sure. She's the only other one I could think of it that would be like in the age range. And not Maggie Smith or freaking, you know. Who's the one all in pink? Oh, um, uh, Mrs. The evil one.

Yes, the evil one. The Hitler lady. She could have been around the right age too, but. That's funny. Umbridge, that's it. Umbridge. Thanks. Yeah.

That's great. That's a fun one. I like that. It was a fun, true question. It took me about a minute to, to, like, they gave me the time to suss it all out. the DM, the host

of the trivia. Once he presented that question, I was like, okay, because initially I was thinking Depp and because Helen Abondon Carter was with Johnny Depp for a while, and he wasn't in Harry Potter, but he was in the, he played a young Dumbledore and the Fantastic Beast

Mr. Beast thing, yeah. I thought he was in, I thought she was married to Tim Burton. She's married to Tim Burton now, yeah. Okay, now she is. Or was. Or was? Maybe the cheat, yeah, who knows, these people. with their lives, man. Anyway.

Not anymore, apparently, says Jeannie. But anyway, so, yeah, they gave me, they were nice enough to give you two or three minutes to work my way through all of that stuff. Oh, Grindlewald, right, right. He plays the young Grindlewold, thank you.

Oh, yeah, for a hot second, then they didn't in the next one or something, right? Yeah, exactly. Because everybody's mad at it. This is so, this is so plums, a plums style riddle of, like, me working my way through it and figuring it. Neither took Dumbled doors

and their left Dumbled doors. Exactly. But there are Dumbled doors. doors on the tree. All right, that's going to do it today, everybody. Thank you for listening. Quick shout out to Squishy, just for no reason. Just a good dude. I like him. So, hey, Squishy, hope you're doing good. Hey, frogpants.com slash TMS is the place to go for everything you're looking for, and that means everything. So go use it. It's there for you. Brian, let's play a song and leave these people with a happy tune in their heart. Will do. Jinks 621 wrote in and said,

And hey, it's a Chinese new year, and it's the year of the snake. Any song with snake or a snake band theme will do. It is the best zodiac J-L-O-L-L. Oh, no, L-O-L. Okay, it is the best Zodiac L-O-L. Oh, okay. All right. Sure.

You know, I can't argue with that. I do like the animals in the Chinese zodiac a lot better than our, you know, ooh, scales. Or here's a guy with a bow and arrow on a horse. It's great. I just watched Zodiac again. I love that movie. Yeah, totally different thing there, too.

Yeah, very different. So, snake theme, I actually had this queued up for last week and forgot that we had a play date. So I pushed it today. This came out on that fantastic Information Society cover album from 2016. It's a cover of a song by Snakefinger. And if you really want some fun, go find the original Snakefinger video. It's on YouTube and get ready to have your mind blown at what a bizarre Adventures in the Forbidden Zone

Meets Mad Max kind of video it is The song is called Man in the Dark Sedan It's Information Society There you go. Happy Monday, folks I'm the man of the dark sedan. I have come to take your hand.

I was sent down here to be sincere. Truthful and stand fast. I came to say the judgment day of man has got to pass. I'm a man I'm a man of the dark I'm a man of the dark sedan I have come To take your hand

You can follow me I guarantee To take you full away But we must leave Before the eve of everlasting grey We're going to be. I'm the man of the dark sedan. I have come to take your hand.

We can leave this place and soon replace the names of those you know. With a blood of heart that has been stunned Whichies are nice, no Um Uh Uh Uh Uh

Uh Uh Uh Uh Uh Uh I'm a man in the darks are damn Here you come to take your hand

I just wanted to call it to say thanks for all the community that you guys were alive. And even though I'm mostly just over to occur in the tadpole when I'm eating there, I really appreciate it. Everything you guys do. Hey, good day. Good day, Scott and Brian. This is for the call-me-out segment. for TMS Thursday.

My name's Chris. I'm going from the Ananda, as you can tell by the accent. I go by Grave Fitness in the Discord. I put the name Grave Fitness because I work at a cemetery and at a gym. Anyway, the reason is my all.

I don't really have a question. I just wanted to share something really stupid that I do after a decade of listening to you guys. So, like I said, I work at a cemetery. As I walk around, I see all these different names

on headstones and plaques. and every headstone, every name that I see, I read it in an accent that one of you guys do on the show. So if I see a really, there's three accents I do most. If I see a really Anglo-sounding name, I'll read it in Scots-Irish accent.

I'll see, oh, that's Paddy McCormar. I've been buried next to me Ma because I ate too many potatoes. The other accent that always pops into my head is Brian's Russian too much hassle neighbour so if I see

any kind of name that sounds like he's can blockish that pops straight in my head this is a hero like

Gregor who Brodnick is too much hustle for the big service just put me in grumbed and then the last

accent that always pops into my head is the impression you guys do of Randy pronouncing Troizor

so whenever I see a Latin-looking name. Around here we've got a big Portuguese and Spanish community and whenever I say one of their names, straight away,

on here he is Luis Gonzales, Ricardo. He, I come up with stupid stories for these names. Anyway, just wanted to share it. It's something dumb that I've done

in my head to pass the time. Like I said, after a decade written to you guys. I love it. I love it. I love it. Can't wait to what the next decade brings for me and all those stupid things I do. Love the show, though. Bye. Wear them loud and proud, friend. Be large and in charge. You're always welcome at frogpants.com.

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