The Morning Stream - TMS 2779: Beige on Air Light

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

Unexpected Horseradishing. Oh No! Where Did I Park My Phone?! Dropping Bombs Like a TIE Fighter. Craftsman Wounds vs Dumbass Wounds. Mom's Sewing Scissors Are Sacred. Cockpit toobs. What are you a HOB...O? Bean juice in my cuts. A Broken President is Right Twice a Term. Frogpants Transparency Office. Badass vs Stupid. They only knew the doot doot. Nickel For Your Thoughts. Migration, All I've Ever Wanted with Tom. The Spag does not want to Go Low with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When a beautiful stranger leads a computer hacker to a forbidding underworld, he discovers the shocking truth. The life he knows is the elaborate deception of an evil cyber intelligence. Either that or she told him to toss a couple of bucks our way on Patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, unexpected horse-radishing. Oh, no. Where did I park my phone? Dropping bombs like a tie fighter. Craftsman wounds versus dumbass wounds.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Mom sewing scissors are sacred. Cockpit tubes. What are you, a hobo? Bean juice in my cuts. A broken president is right twice a term. Frogpants Transparency Office. Badass versus stupid. They only knew the doot-dute.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Nickel for your thoughts. Migration, all I've ever wanted with Tom. The spas, sorry, the spag knows, damn it. The spag does not want to go low with Nicole and more on this episode of the morning stream. This is a typical meal served to astronauts aboard Apollo space flights. Vote Neil. sausage, toast, applesauce, and in a special zero-gravity pouch, Tang, the energy breakfast drink. Orange-flavored tang with rich natural flavor and more vitamin C than orange juice.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Energy Tang for spacemen and earth families. Have you ever seen such fascinating striations? the morning stream that's the bravest thing i've ever seen a vegetable do well it's muted hey everybody welcome to tms this is the morning stream for wednesday february 12th 2025 i'm scott johnson that's brian abett hi hello happy good morning a hump day hump day we both got snow it's like eight degrees it's like winter finally the hell took that so long four Four degrees here. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yeah, when I went out for coffee, it was one, it was a degree. Oh, my gosh. So is that, your car pretty good? I guess it's in the garage all night, so you're pretty insulated. It's not like an outdoor one. I always feel bad. Like when I was in my 20s, we always had a car that was parked out in the snow and in the winter, the elements. And that sucked ass because you'd be out there going, gie, gie, gie, gie, greek.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, oh, yeah. And the whole, like, having to scrape her windows off, having to do that whole business. what a pain in the butt. I don't miss it at all. I'll tell you that right now. I don't miss that one bit. And Alicia, who lives here currently, has nowhere to park, so she has to do that every morning at 6.30 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I feel bad for. Is she doing the Lunderguard Scrape, Scrape, Scrape with the half inch thick? I love. That is one of my favorite scenes in Fargo because of you feel his frustration with having to scrape that window and the futility of his little plastic scraper barely making a dent in the... quarter inch thick ice on he's so mad dude he's so pissed
Starting point is 00:03:01 but then he resigns himself like he eventually like turns around kicks around throws it on the ground and then he slowly picks it up and then goes back and gets it taken care of which is the most I can get mad all I want but nothing this is the only way this window is getting scared yeah it's the most
Starting point is 00:03:17 like Lunderguard freaking move of all time yeah it's great I watched that again about two weeks ago and you know never get tired of it love that man so so good classic for a reason anyway we're here we got a we got a Wednesday lineup for y'all and we're going to start it with some some some help with the whole like should I talk to my FedEx guy about putting stuff in the rear yeah because he's been putting stuff in the back it's annoying if you
Starting point is 00:03:43 miss that episode I just I don't want to be an ass he's a really nice guy when I have talked to him he has done the front before so I don't know why he doesn't do the back and I haven't seen him since he did the back last so I don't you know there hasn't been an opportunity for me to even talk to him. But here's what this caller says about all that. Hey, this is Patrick calling for the morning stream. I just wanted to say a couple episodes back, you guys were talking about your FedEx driver and how you didn't want to like talk to him because he was really nice and you didn't want to come off as me. I would say as a FedEx driver for three years, I'd say about. We don't mind, especially since Kim has made you a driver's
Starting point is 00:04:24 favorite house and uh they're not going to care that you even leave like a little nice note on the door hey just could you not leave these packages by this side sense uh they won't care they'll be like oh okay and then no problem then they'll put it at the front door and you can also just say you're home all the time too so but anyways love the show though okay i like it this is good advice yeah she that's very good he made a good point about where we are a house that has we've been this and we've been doing this since the pandemic we just never stopped but there's always a little snack display at the front that's got chips and package cookies and things like that for drivers anybody of door to ask whoever whoever comes they're welcome to take stuff there's a sign that
Starting point is 00:05:11 says hey if you're delivering please take something so impressed you still do that we stopped doing that when did we stop doing that i guess when the when the pandemic was over yeah stopped doing that I thought we would, but Kim's like, I'm going to keep doing it. I'm like, all right, fine. So she's always building karma points, and that's fine. It's what she does. I probably would have stopped because I just can't remember all the stuff I have to do all the time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:39 I'm not going to remember to go fill up the freaking snack tray on the front porch. Well, and it's not just a lot of work. It's, you know, money to put snacks in there for them all. Yeah, it's quite. And she does this thing where she'll track sales at Costco or Sam's Club. and go, she'll be like, oh, those cheese crackers are on sale at Sam's Club. She'll go buy a tray of these things for, like, pennies on the dollar. Sorry, nickel's on the dollar because we're chucking pennies now, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Right, right. Nickel for your thoughts. I don't know, we've got to change all our sayings, all our idioms around pennies. If you want my two nickels on that subject, then if you don't have a nickel, then a hey, nickel will do. We have to say that. Must, must resist impersonation of orange squat goblin. It's hard, man. It's hard. It is hard.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Especially when it's ripped from today's headline. Although, I will say, it's about the only thing so far I don't have a problem with. It costs us more to print those stupid things and it does to use them. So why are we making them? It's stupid. Get rid of them. I'm kind of with you. I think he also wants to do away with daylight savings.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And he can just do an executive order to do away with daylight savings with a flick of his Big fat Sharpie. Yeah, do it. Just do it and be done. And then you'll have two things that I thought were okay that you did. How about that? But that'll be it. I mean, that's, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, we're not going to get more than that. Yeah, exactly. I can't find my phone. Not that I need it for the show. But all of a sudden, I'm just looking at it's like, where's my phone? What does your watch say if you do the little ring ring thing on it? Oh, I could do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Let's see. What is that? That's, uh... Should be the little side, uh, the oval, not oval, elongated button that's next to your wheels. Oh, really? I can... Well, you hit that and then it comes up a little ringer. There you go. Yeah, I hear it. I can hear it too.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I almost pushed mine. That would have been confusing. Sitting right here. I hear it. Where is it? I hear it too. See, the problem... Oh, and the new OS should give you a little radar if it's picking up satellite. So you should have a little green lines showing you where, what direction the phone is. What a dumb place. I put it on top of my 3D. printer why would i put it on top of the 3d printer
Starting point is 00:07:57 he's just in there you know it's dumb sometimes you're just in there and you just set it i do this all the time i am the worst i'm absolutely the worst i forgot to tell you this as totally right in rainbow bright says i love this content you you may be joking maybe you're not joking but even if you're joking you're serious because you do love this content because a this is what old people do they lose their phones and then they try and figure out how to find it and b this is is this is the level of honesty and reality. This is a reality show, folks.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, we are the frog pants transparency office. Welcome. You're all welcome here. You're going to see it like it is, okay? I mean, if I spill something on my crotch, you're going to hear about it. Absolutely. You know, if I, if I hurt my thumb trying to take a stupid, what did you do? I overdid it.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I overdid it on supports on a 3D print. So I'm doing a 3D print for a listener. A really cool miniature of the two, what do they call the double Thai fighter thing with the two? It's got the two. Oh. What's this? Tie bomber?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Is that Thai bomber? It is. Is it? Well, I know what you mean, though. With the two things. With the two things. In a cell looking things on them. Right there in the, in our.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Discord is the photo. Who do he says bomber? Let's take a look here. Oh, yeah, that's a, yeah. The bomber, it's not the one that, or is it the one that Vader flies, no? No, no, Vader doesn't fly. He just flies Darth Vader's tie fighter, but it's got the curved end panels like Darth Vader's tie fighter as opposed to the cheap.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Gotcha. You know, the cheap ones, the cheap flat ones that they give to the regular storm. Oh, these are the ones that are dropping bombs on the war masteroid in two, right? In the empire where they're all down there hiding in before they, Remember that with the big worm puppet? Must be, because they're definitely dropping bombs. And they're going to go and they're hiding. It's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I love that scene. Anyway, so I'm 3D printing those, and I'm actually 3D printing the two little cockpit tubes. And I've been having a devil of a time getting the things oriented on the plate so that what you try to avoid A is that you don't put stuff on the printing plate So that when the thing lifts up to like drop some resin, like drop the goo resin, but then push it back down to cure another layer and then lift it up to drop some goo resin, et cetera, that the surface area isn't something that will cause it to pull right off the plate. So you've got a, you've got to, A, think about that when you're arranging your items on the plate. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Second thing is, wherever it's going to be attaching to the plate, you're going to have supports. And the supports are going to leave little tiny puck marks. there's hardly any way to get around it on a large item. Small items, little gaming miniatures, you can get away with having very little connection between the supports and the model. But on something like this, it's got to be pretty big. Well, I overdid it on the supports, and I've got this mass of a really well-printed middle part,
Starting point is 00:11:16 but then this impossible to pry off, set of supports that I'm like using a big fat pliers to try and break them off without breaking the part I'm using a little metal spatula to kind of gently separate the two and one point it just basically goes right into my thumb as I'm trying to pry part of it off so I've like chipped my thumbnail I can't really show it on screen but see but that's badass you did a thing where you hurt your hand doing a cool badass thing I hurt my hand
Starting point is 00:11:49 last week trying to take a cracker into a can of beans and slicing up my hand on the edge of the thing that's that pathetic so like a jagged age can of beans yeah i told this story on core a hobo by the train tracks i told the story on cor and i forgot to tell it here but while kim was out of town i had a can of baked beans and i had it was down to about half from the first time i ate whatever i ate and i took it out of the fridge took off the tin foil and i went you know i'm just in the mood to just take a cracker and just like get some out of there so i'm just like hey and then later i'm like why do I have these, like, cat scratches on my hand? Why am I bleeding from my thumb?
Starting point is 00:12:23 I couldn't remember doing it. You're scraping your hand from... Exactly. How stupid is that? You're over there making a cold print, you know? Yeah. Yours is a craft ear. You've got a bowl.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You can, like, actually dump the beans into a bowl. 100% I could have. You were... I'm just... No, I, you're not wrong, dude. You're not wrong to have all these questions. Look, the... Kim was in the house at the time, right?
Starting point is 00:12:45 No, this was while she was gone. This was during her trip. It was while she was gone. Okay. Oh, my gosh. It's well, she's out. We're cracking open cans of beans and dipping salt. The first time I had them, I did make sort of a meal out of it.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I had some beans on a plate. You know, I didn't do any of this before. And I had it nicely arranged. This is like three days ahead. And then three days later, I'm like, you know what sounds good? Then beans there in the fridge. And I take them out. It's cold.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I take a cracker and then I don't think about the edges at all. And now I'm bleeding everywhere. Probably got bean juice in my cuts, you know, the whole thing. It is so stupid, dude. Next, we're going to watch Scott eat sardines using a pointy stick. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. It was so dumb.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So you're making, you get a, the end of his bindle. You're getting like a craftsman wound. I'm getting that dumbass wound is what mine is. Well, it's still pretty dumbass of me because of the massive number of supports. I was like, oh, no, not enough. I have to put support level, and there's a setting. there's like low medium high and ultra and ultra basically just wraps the model with supports but it guarantees that you know you can put a bunch of light supports which cause less puck
Starting point is 00:13:58 marking and still get a nice clean shape but in this case I'm putting marks in a thing by using pliers to pry supports off because my my fingernails as I'm pulling supports off or you know right into the side of the the tie fighter so I can I got it. I got it better. So when you get the pockmarks out, can you sand down pockmarks? Is that a way to do it a post? They're pretty, pretty minor. So 99 times out of 100, whatever you're doing with this model, you're going to put a layer of primer on there before you start painting it.
Starting point is 00:14:31 These things, the way they come out of the printer won't hold paint. They're very slick, plastic, resin, whatever. So they won't really hold much paint. So you've got to hit them with a layer of primer. Gotcha. And the primer does a great job of really covering up those. mock marks he can't really really tell calhoun asked if a knife would work could you use a knife that sounds like a hot knife um oh a hot knife there you go yeah uh that sounds like trouble man yeah you
Starting point is 00:14:58 solidated to my thumb do we really want to introduce uh searing metal into the into the equation yeah oh my gosh uh all right domo's back to the cans real quick i got to answer this do i use a hot knife heater by the way dr calvin yeah how do you do that what do you how do you get a knife You have to use a hot knife heater, apparently, is what you used. Is that what that is, a hot knife heater? A hot knife heater. Because I'm playing off of his disdain for the term hot water heater. I know, I was trying to find, I was trying to find the acronym and then the extra heater.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah, HDH heater. There you go. Now he's now, or HK, sorry. Hot knife heater heater heater. Yeah, heater heater. Take that, Dr. Cahoon. So Ambassador Domo says, do you open your cans correctly? Blage should cut into the side of the can and the top of the can.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So I used a manual one, like a clamp it on. the side and twist it. I don't know why that isn't enough to not cut me. And also, I didn't feel it while I was doing it. This is all later. So while I'm doing it, it's not hurting. That's the kind of cuts that are so hairline that you don't feel them. It's not like a paper cut that stings immediately. That's all ragged or whatever. But your can opener, I didn't hear if you answered the question. Does your can opener cut into the side or the top of the can? Well, good question. I don't know because it does
Starting point is 00:16:16 it's a clamp on the side with the little grinder wheel how do those work I don't know what those do I mean if it depends on where the blade is and how how it's positioned so newer can openers they all have that little grindy thing
Starting point is 00:16:33 in a blade just got to figure is the blade pointed this way or down and the ones that are pointed this way are much better now for I'm opening this can of beans I'm going to take some beans out and put them in a bowl like an adult.
Starting point is 00:16:46 A normal person. And then I can actually take that can lid and put it back on top and it'll stay somewhat sealed and I can put it back in the fridge. Yeah, that's actually probably not the kind of can opener we have. But I thought it was kind of new, so I don't know. It feels like it aims down. So it's cutting into the rim, not the top, but into the metal of the rim. Or else, why would I cut myself? That had to have been it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Bobby, come in here next week and let's have science on it. Let's do that. Dr. Kellan, he's talking about the hot knife thing, too, and he's like, yeah, I hold a lighter up to a blade for a few seconds, and it works for a couple seconds. For filament, that would work great. Because, you know, getting supports off with, I actually haven't been known to, I've got a great air, what is that,
Starting point is 00:17:34 a hot, a heat gun. And so, and I can't remember it was a Pacholic. Somebody generous donation of a, foot pedal that basically just you plug the heat gun into the foot pedal plug and plug the foot pedal plug into your wall
Starting point is 00:17:53 or in this case a surge protector and then all I have to do is just put my foot down on the floor on the thing and hold the part up there lift my foot and it stops doing the heating. BioCow that was you Preston. Oh it was Preston? Okay cool. I was going to say that smells like a patrolic thing but
Starting point is 00:18:10 you know it does but no it was bio cow and it was super generous of him. And it's been great. It's been perfect because now when I have these noise-cancelling headphones on, I don't inadvertently leave the heat gun blasting hot air at my popcorn seal or the drop ceiling. That's great. That's actually great because just up the road here this morning, somebody, there was fire people out in front and I'm like, what's going on? And I know this one kid that lives there. He walks dogs past us all the time. I was like, what happened? Apparently, somebody left a candle burning all night. forgot about it
Starting point is 00:18:41 and then their kitchen counter or their kitchen table caught on fire and no one's hurt everyone's good but it was gnarly scary yeah that's a good
Starting point is 00:18:49 oh flesh cutters I know these oh I've got a set of these and you know what I use them for I use them for cutting cutting flesh cutting flesh
Starting point is 00:18:57 cutting filament I didn't even think about using those for cutting the supports off on a resin print oh that'd be smart use it on your victims cut that's fresh
Starting point is 00:19:07 what is it for like animal hides Mark. Like animal hat type stuff or what is it? No, no, no. Let me grab them. Okay. I've never heard of that before. We have some upstairs that are used for leather cutting,
Starting point is 00:19:16 but I assume there's something as strong as that or stronger maybe. No, no. But when they call them flush cutters. Oh, flush cutters. Flush cutters. This is a flesh cutter. It's just basically, it's got a very, it's got a blade that's flush. Like the cutting surface is the very bottom of the cut.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So you can go right up. to the thing you want to protect and cut and take off the part you don't want to protect. So, like, when we were doing, you remember the models, like putting together models as kids, and you'd get the sprue that holds the little plastic pieces on, and you'd wiggle them back and forth and pop off the little pieces, but they'd always have that little dimple of something on there. This will cut those off and not leave any. It'll be flush.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Nice. Hence the name with the surface of the doodad. That's cool. I wish I'd had that when I was a kid. I didn't have that. You and me both. I just twisted them and, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And then we had to use a little sander or a pair of our mom's sewing scissors or something to get that little outy. Yeah. Then you'd hope she never knew you took them because if she did, you were dead if your mom knew you took the sewing scissors. Yeah. What was it with sewing? You know what? There are three things in the 80s. We were taught to believe.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Quick sand was everywhere. Right. Number one. Number two, um, all candy had razor blades in it. Right. Or, uh, or, uh, or Tylenol or something. Yeah, any of those things. And then third, mom's sewing scissors are from the Lord himself and are meant to be sacrosanct
Starting point is 00:20:57 and never touched by any human beings. Exactly. Yes. What hell, dude. Yeah, if you used them on paper, my mom would, she would seriously scream. She gets so mad. I, I get it. I've got a pair of really nice.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I bought a five pack of Amazon Basics, really nice scissors. They look like this. Oh, yeah, look at those. Nice. These are so freaking great. And I've ruined one pair because I used the blade to cut the wrung thing. So now I probably used to try and cut a piece of filament or something.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And so now one of my pairs is like cuts really well as long as I only use this little bit of it. But if I open it wide and cut, it's like right about here. There's a little stupid. And I've tried sharpening it. I've like used, you know, everything to try and fix it. So they're probably, I mean, Raven's arguing for my mom's side of this thing. You're probably right that they are, clearly, they're a special breed of scissor. You want to take care of them.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And it was wrong for me as a kid to try to use it on a comic book cut out or something. But I just couldn't understand why those about. above all other things. It felt like if you ding the car, they go, ah, it's all right, it'll buff out. Or if you drop something in the kitchen. No big deal. We can replace that plate, big deal.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But then touch those scissors and the FBI was at the door, it felt like. Yeah, yeah. You were grounded for life messing with those pinking shares. Such a weird thing. Speaking of cars with dings in it, we got this text from Dan, who wants to give some clarity to that car. I keep bringing up that my dad brought home from that L.A. auction with a bullet hole in it and blood all over the seat and all that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah. And how I just could not understand. how this was not impounded or police didn't have it somewhere or something like that. Couldn't understand it. Still to this day. So he says this, and this gives me some ideas. He says, hey, Scott, I'm sure someone has followed up on this by now. Actually, no.
Starting point is 00:22:49 In regard to the bloody car from the auction, once the police investigation is done and the insurance company writes the car off as a loss, it is sold at auction to reclaim some cash. They mark them as biohazard on the listing. Says my dad also used to buy and sell cars from the auto auctions, Tikero, Dan. so that makes sense there's a way to do this if you're done with it you've done your investigation it was probably an obvious murder because I could tell you how the guy was shot and where the gun would have been and where the bullet ended up like it's not forensically hard to tell you what happened in this car right you don't have to be dexter to figure out this CSI yeah but
Starting point is 00:23:27 it felt so weird having that in my garage and telling my friends guys come in you guys see this is a freaking bullet wound there's like blood all over the place the chair was soaked in it and my dad was like, quit showing your friends the car. I'm like, but dad, it's cool. It's a murder and stuff in there. Exactly. I want to show them all the biohazard on the, all over the inside. I'd show them how the bullet was still in the little quarter panel on the opposite side.
Starting point is 00:23:49 You can shake the door in here, go d-l-l-lick in there and stuff. So anyway, that helps me understand. So thank you there, Dan. Finally, Brian, you had a big mystery day planned yesterday. Give us the skinny. I did. Yeah, so for those of you, cheapskates, who don't pay for and listen to the pre-show, Just kidding. We love you.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yesterday during the pre-show, by the way, we got rave reviews for the pre-show yesterday in TMS Chatter in the Discord. I know. Somebody said it was the best pre-show we've ever had. I got three messages on split up somewhere on social media about it. I got a Facebook direct message saying yesterday's pre-show. I don't know what yesterday's pre-show was so great, but apparently it was great. I think we stopped doing the regular show and just do a pre-show. Yeah, 10-minute pre-show.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Save us some time. And we're out. Yep, sure, why not? Somebody said, you guys should put it up on the main first. feed so everybody can eat it. And I'm thinking, well, if we have this many people saying that, maybe I'll put that little chunk out just for fun. Maybe that one, yeah. But anyway, so I appreciate yesterday I talked about how I was pulling a fast one on Tina. And normally the second Tuesday of the month is Puzzled Pint. And it was Puzzle Pint last night. But it was also a concert, Howard Jones
Starting point is 00:24:56 and ABC at the Mission Ballroom. And I decided to make that our mystery date for the month. And I decided I didn't make it a secret mystery date. So I told her that we were going to the left-hand brewery, which is basically the entrance to the left-hand brewery is 30 feet from the entrance to the mission ballroom. You walk into one, then you walk straight across and go into the mission ballroom afterwards. But she believed that we were just doing puzzle pint, we were meeting the same couple that we always meet for puzzle pint, et cetera. And I even went so far as to say Oh yeah, they said it's a special puzzle pint So the only thing you need to bring tonight is a pencil
Starting point is 00:25:40 So no go bag I think I talked about that too And so it was all going great So we hop in the car We start driving down there She's even driving like it's great She's driving us to her own mystery date Because her car is four wheel drive
Starting point is 00:25:56 And the snow is starting to come down a little bit And we get to the area that's got the brewery and mission ballroom and there's a guy out front saying yep parking is 25 bucks and at this point I'm like oh this is kind of where
Starting point is 00:26:14 where the secret has to be revealed and it was cold enough last night that I did not want to pay 10 bucks and walk a quarter of a mile from down the road I was happy to pay the 25 but Tina's like oh no we're just going to the brewery he's like oh okay well if you're going to brewery then you can park down here i'm like
Starting point is 00:26:34 then there's like you know two hour parking or one hour parking i'm like no no no we'll pay we'll pay she's like no no no no we'll go down and park that way and i'm like no let me just pay just let you here's my card dude uh we're paying for parking he's like all right yeah just go he says uh because that's when i had to come out how did it come out it was uh he's like well no if you're only going to be here for a couple hours i'm like no i'm surprising my wife with the concert tonight so i'll play for parking. And she goes, oh.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, because nobody's in on the thing except you. Right, exactly. It's like, I did not even think about the whole parking issue that that was really going to be when the rubber meets the road and the secret has to be divulged. That's funny. But it was, we've seen Howard Jones, we were figuring it out that at least five or six times, this being the fifth or sixth time we've seen every time he's come through Denver, going all the way back to the dream into.
Starting point is 00:27:30 action tour she wasn't with me at the time um it's before i met her but i saw him at red rocks back when he had a dude he had a dude that was just on stage to dance and act out all the songs oh jeez i can't remember the guy's name but that was like part of his stage show was just this dude he'd do like all these costume changes he would do the the what is love or you know the don't try to live your life one day etc anyway that he's not that that guy doesn't perform with him anymore. Sure. But we've seen him do acoustic tours where it's just him and a piano.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We've seen him do full band tours. We've seen him do, you know, smaller, just him and a drummer kind of thing. This was full band. And the bassist was actually the dude from Kajagugu. So part of the way through the show, Howard Jones did a cover of Too Shy Shy by Kajagugu, which dude is only known for doing two or three covers. I interviewed Howard Jones on Coverville about cover songs. And we talked about why he's very selective,
Starting point is 00:28:37 why he's very picky about the cover songs that he does. He will basically, if you listen to the interview, he'll basically only do covers of songs that he truly agrees with the sentiment of. And in this case, I guess he just agrees that that woman was too shy, shy. That song also, if you could lie to me and say, Scott, Tower Jones wrote that song, and I would believe you. It sounds like something he could do. You know what I mean? It's just got kind of his vibe to it.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Well, dang it. Now I got to, you know, shoot, now I have to figure out how to retroactively convince you that that's an original. Yeah. I would believe it. But he, anyway, so he was the headliner. ABC came out. second but first was Richard Blade
Starting point is 00:29:29 if you're from California you know Richard Blade from K Rock Sounds of the 80s great radio station whenever I went to California to visit my grandparents I would take a one of those cases of 10 max L 90 minute tapes
Starting point is 00:29:43 and record however many hours of K Rock that was and bring them back with me to Denver to listen to over and over and over again the first time I ever heard WAM was them introducing wake me up before you go-go on K Rock. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And record it on tape. If I could find that tape. They're pretty legendary. Everybody, you know. They're so legendary. And Richard Blade is, you know, a DJ, was a DJ with him forever. And then he moved over to Sirius XM where he's on their, their New Wave channel, which is called First Wave. And so he came out and actually did, like, 45 minutes of telling stories of the beginnings of New Wave.
Starting point is 00:30:25 and the you know how this guy was in this band and he was influenced by seeing this other band at a concert and said oh my god i could do that and went home and did his tape sequencer and his mogue synthesizer and blah blah you know basically uh and that person became you know vins clark from depesh mode and yeah as an erasure etc etc so sure it was actually really really cool uh now the people behind me behind us It was four older ladies, our age, ladies. Sure, sure. The Howard Jones fan base from the 80s, sure.
Starting point is 00:31:04 You'd think, but I question that. Ah, okay. Because it sounds like they only knew like two or three things from the 80s. And somehow these tickets landed in their lap. I can't imagine they paid money knowing so little about what they were coming for. But they were, you know, during the music that plays before anybody comes out, they're singing along and they're getting every word wrong or they're like
Starting point is 00:31:28 wire this is with fire do do do do do do do do do do do do it's like geez Louise and then ABC is about to come on and there's this like little promotional thing that they're showing
Starting point is 00:31:46 cuts from all of their music videos but to an instrumental track behind it and um and one of them starts singing oh i love the song stand or fall and she's singing along to it and i want to turn around and say that's the fix that's that's that's not a bc but i just couldn't do it and it was like they were just sometimes just making noise to make noise like they knew the beginnings of some of these harrow jones songs of like the um uh do do do do do do to do do do do do do do to do and that's what they're singing they're like like singing at the top of their lungs not even the lyrics but the the baseline the do the keyboards if only like exactly it's
Starting point is 00:32:35 like oh come on that would drive me crazy you know it kind of did i did i did a few turn around and looks when they were being particularly obnoxious and they would stop for a while it's not like alimal draft house where you can call like the the music police right exactly let me hit the little button and put a little card there and unfortunately you know people sing at concerts great totally fine and people sing badly at concerts completely completely good with that but when you're at the top of your lungs singing over the just the introductory uh light piano introduction of a song it's like come on now you're being obnoxious
Starting point is 00:33:10 oh you can just see that driving you absolutely up a tree absolutely bonkers yeah and uh yeah so i saw i saw harrod jones in 1986 for his was it one-to-one is the album? One to one, yeah. Is that the one with You Know I Love You, Don't You? Yes, I think it's the title or the first track on that album. I loved that record. Anyway, I went my buddy with my buddy Bill, and that's the concert where I bought a shirt that was too small for me for $38, and I was so mad because I got it home and it didn't fit. Because you can't take it back back.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's not like you can say, oh, just go back tomorrow and get the right size. No, they're gone. That merch table is gone. Yeah, and that's the concert where it was raining. It was in Park City. It was raining. that's fine, but everybody had like Parkas and stuff on, and that was the
Starting point is 00:33:57 concert where I witnessed, I can't even say what I saw out loud. Oh gosh, really? But I saw some, I'll just say this. I saw some pervy guy do a nasty thing to someone else that wasn't consenting to what they did. It was bad. It was the first time I never witnessed anything like that in my life. And I remember just going,
Starting point is 00:34:15 ah, all right, can we? Well, we got to, uh, I can give you, I can give you an idea. get like use it in in food terms pretend he's a chef serving a customer at a restaurant okay he walks up here you go did he put a hot dog on their arm or something it's a little worse than that let's I like your new scenario so let's do it so you're in you're in the restaurant you don't actually let's say the server you're talking to you're talking to everything's fine it's a person that walks up behind you who's carrying um you're you're at a steak house and one of the things they're
Starting point is 00:34:51 famous for is these they sell them even separately they sell these bottles of horseradish oh they're so good the horse radish sauce they sell and imagine that one of the one of the table cleaner people who you've never seen in your life you don't even see them coming they're behind you they come up behind you and just go and squirt a bunch of it on your back oh no really yeah yeah well thank you for not using mayonnaise yeah i could have it could have been a little bit worse but Gravy. I was absolutely freaking horrified. And me and my friend Bill, Bill, we broke from the concert for a minute, went and weaseled our way out of there and found a guard and told him, told on the guy.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And by the time we were able to get back, weave our way back through the crowd, he was gone. So whatever they did, they did it while we were gone. So there's never any kind of confrontation with us. But for the rest of the concert, I'm just going, okay, come on, Howard Jones. Let's go, okay, I love this one. Okay, you're singing it. Guy with the thing, doing a horrible thing. Like, I just could not get it out of my mind.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Right. Yeah, that would tape the whole concert for me. It really wrecked it. So we ended up, and then I bought that shirt that was too small, so the whole thing just kind of sucked. And I have a bad taste in my mouth. But it wasn't Howard Jones. Ho Joe, way to go.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I'd see you again today if I could. Dude is looking, you know, you put up a photo while I was talking about him. And that's his like, oh, I'm cute, you know. easy going lifestyle yeah wearing wearing a hat look at all my hair coming out of the center of my head um he is starting to look now like john lithgow yep he does look right here looking all lithgow look at him he looks like a he looks like a priest voting in the conclave right there he does uh well anyway how am i going to get the votes i want the votes that movie's so good uh y'all we're going to dive right into
Starting point is 00:36:51 tadpully feud, I warned you via the text and in the chat, I'll warn you again if you want to be a part of this, then you're going to want to be fourth caller. And that means on the Discord, giving me a direct message, friend me if you haven't already, that probably means you won't get in today if you aren't already friending me. But if you want to be our fourth caller and participate,
Starting point is 00:37:07 you can. I'm going to call Dunaway right now. And that didn't work. What happened? It just dry-fired. Hold on. There we go. Which is not what happened. No, I wish that guy would have dry-fired. I wish if I could do it all over again. Well, I couldn't have done anything, but...
Starting point is 00:37:23 I mean, that server at the steak place. I just remember Bill and I just went, ah! Like that. Oh, I would too. That is not something that you expect to see. You know, maybe in a Guar show, but not a Howard Jones. Not Howard Jones. Not at all. Or a Howard Johnson, for that matter. All right, check this out, y'all. Brian Dunaway sidling up to the side of his horse and showing us all what's what and who's who. here to play a game. Hi, Brian. How are you?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Have you seen my horse radish? No, but you, I don't, I never want to see your horse radish if you can help that. No, please. Let me never. Anybody who has that kind of bodily control. Gosh, I know, yeah. Like, what, uh, I don't know what he did. I don't even want to think about it because it did seem very spontaneous, like, you don't know what I mean? You're gross. No, I mean, even the guy two doors down from Hannibal Lecter had to work up to it.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Right. He started as soon as she got there. Hold on a second. Exactly. Well, that's good stuff. Danaway, you're here. We're going to play. Oh, I got to add a thing.
Starting point is 00:38:33 All right. So let's see who's fourth. We got one, two, three, four. Like to cover you with gel. I like to cover you with gel. Yeah. I like to cover you with gel. That's basically, that's all I could do.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The whole rest of the thing is all the songs. Think of songs. Yeah. and then buy a dumb shirt that didn't fit. Anyway, hi, this is Juniper on with us. Hi, Judiper, how are you? Yay, you're fourth. How do you feel being fourth again?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Pretty fun. Yeah, I'm excited. Awesome, dude. You've been on, I think, once before. Right? I think so, yeah. Twice, probably? Yeah, maybe this is your third.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Either way, I feel good about your chances today. What, none of way? What did you say? That is a two-peet. Oh, two-peet. Two-peet. I like a two-peet. Brian, let's explain the rules and what the winnings could be today.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I will do exactly that. It's time to play the tadpool. Lee, Fute. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Juniper, your job is more important than ever because you are going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Well, that includes Friends versus Friends and Proteus on Steve. Proteus is an all-time it's amazing. I love Proteus. Proteus is like the best description for it would be like a throwback kind of first-person shooter in the style of doom, but it's done with this mix of 3D and 2D
Starting point is 00:40:03 and retro and not amazing music. Weapons are insane. It is so much fun. It's one of my favorites of these ever. Very cool. High praise. I don't know anything about friends versus friends, but the other thing is really good. Nice. Well, sorry, that game has been pulled. We'll give you something else. No, just kidding.
Starting point is 00:40:19 You're going to get those. If your team wins, and we've got to figure out who's going to win by figuring out who gets to who's going to be your partner in this thing. To do that, we need you guys to put your hands on your buzzards and answer this question. We asked 453 Tadpoolers. What sci-fi or fantasy series would you like to see turned into a... Scott? I want to see the expanse turned into a movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Show me the expanse. on the board but you better do the full question I'm going to do the full question for Dunway that's damn good points though to start with that was really good points Brian here's the full question what sci-fi or fantasy series would you like to see turned into a hole at your local miniature golf
Starting point is 00:41:04 school? Oh shit! It's so not even close to what I thought I'm telling you boy that that question took a turn I would love to to smack some warp speed right into my miniature golf so I think Star Trek of course Star Trek
Starting point is 00:41:24 number four answer on the board well done but that does mean you get control the board and you get Juniper as a partner you guys can figure this all out there's some great answers up here I mean you get a little teleporter sound when he hit the cup
Starting point is 00:41:38 he like transport to a whole 18 oh I love that listen this this may look like a regular tadpooly feud question, but this is really what I'm going to use to open my own pop culture, sci-fi fantasy miniature golf course.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It is going to be the biggest, it is going to be the biggest and best miniature golf spot ever. I'm shocked. Every hole, another, yeah, I have too. It would love it. Interesting. Oh, you'd have a wormhole. Like in
Starting point is 00:42:10 Star Trek, you'd have an actual wormhole. Oh, man. There's somebody good ideas. It would pop out over at DS9, then you got to do a bunch of A lot of people put DS9, I just lumped it into Star Trek. Yeah, that's great. Brilliant. All right. What do you got? What you got, Judith or anything?
Starting point is 00:42:27 In the chamber? The only sci-fi series that I've ever watched, other than Star Trek, some other one that I really like, Stargate. Stargate. Stargate. Yeah, and it
Starting point is 00:42:41 would, like, close up, and why did you get through the hole? Oh, that's true. Or it would be like the windmill and it would open and close. Like the iris would open and close. You got the tinker over there with his mouth open and he goes, ah. Yeah. Yeah. Love it.
Starting point is 00:43:00 All right. I love it. All right. Let's see if that's on there. Show me Stargate. Number six answer on the world. A lot of people thinking like you, Jutper, about that being a great. That is the top stuff, though.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That is weird. Right. I think I know one I have a couple of them in mind Juniper do you have any more I mean come on I mean there's got to be some Star Wars
Starting point is 00:43:24 there right I mean nobody does sci-fi slash fantasy better than I don't know why they didn't even come to mind It's terrible that that didn't even come to mind To be honest Got Darth Vader there breathing the ball out Every time it gets near it Like force you
Starting point is 00:43:40 Like force shifts it out of there I like it All right. All right. You guys go with Star Wars? Star Wars. Sure. Show me Star Wars. Yeah. Yeah. Number five. Specifically, people put the trench run would be the perfect miniature golf hole.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You know what would be cool. You're trying to get it into the little port at the very end. Right. Here's what would be cool. You have a Sarlac pit, but the player has to wait a thousand years for their ball to come back out. Oh, my God. I'd say, you know, it's just as fun. Just make it a week. It's like, oh, your ball fell in the Starlight Pit. You can come back one week from today and continue your game. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:44:19 But you have to say Bobafet before you do it, yeah. Where it was slowly digest for seven days. Oh, man. All right, you guys are killing it. What else you got? 15 to 7 score right now, by the moment. I'm curious, Jutper, let's talk for a second about this. I noticed it is sci-fi slash fantasy.
Starting point is 00:44:36 So like, like, like, Lord of the Rings. Could you have like Lord of the Holes? I mean, is it something like that? that or is it sci-fi slash fantasy? Lord of the holes. Geez. I don't know. I see where you're going.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Got a big old sauron down there, you know, watching you while you're trying to put. It's not bad. Yeah, you're trying to get the ring to the Mordor and the Mordor. Get it go up the side of the mountain and drop the ball into the pit, into the fires of Mordor. Yeah. But there's one fantasy series that really leans into the ball. thing, right? There's a whole sport involved around it. Minority report. Oh, no,
Starting point is 00:45:17 I'm sorry. Minority report. Perfect. It's not a bad idea, actually. That's not too bad. I'm not trying to give any answers away. I love it, though. You're rolling these wooden balls down a thing and, oh, it's predicting a murder. Oh, no. I love that. I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:45:35 right now, and I cannot think of anything. How about a snitch? You've got to chase the snitch? Oh, yeah. Or Harry Potter stuff. Potters? What do you think? What do you think? How many answers are you planning on giving Scott for his turn?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me, give me, give me, give me. Yeah, I feel like I feel like there's more Harry Potter fans than Lord of the Rings fan. Well, that's them there is fighting words, but yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I know, I know what you mean, too. Yeah. Do Harry Potter that seems like a strong one. I think
Starting point is 00:46:07 I think I think Potter'sville is the way to go, right? I think, I think the Harry Potter's. The Harry Peter. you could totally do a quidditch thing with the whole all that sort of thing all right show me Harry Potter oh my gosh the fantasy is is leaning where
Starting point is 00:46:25 okay all right all right pretty surprisingly low in the list I thought I would have thought it would have been higher too because I think that is it does open it up for a lot of things but yeah can I ask a quick judge question of course um is it is it all safe to assume that this includes
Starting point is 00:46:42 like the tadpooly goofiness of like oh it's not really a sci-fi series but that's what got voted on you know what I'm saying is I mean every every question in the every question in the feud has that risk like is you know is is the is the is the tadpoole going to say Debbie does Dallas yeah and you know somebody did but you know what I'll let you both off the hook and say that all of the 11 top answers fit the the question perfectly or not. No jokey answers here. All right. I'm going to go with Dune. I have to think
Starting point is 00:47:22 Dune's on me. Yeah. Worms and, you know, all that shit and dunes and stuff. Sure. Sure. All right. Show me. Dune. Yeah, one big sand trap. Oh, I didn't think of that. Oh, shit. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Everything, that, you basically, that could be the subtitled of those books, one big sand trap, because it's just F's, the whole thing just effes everybody up, spice must flow. All right, then I will say, I'm thinking about the tubes in Futurama, that could be some fun, and I love Futurama. It's sci-fi. I'm really nervous about this one, but I'm hoping it gets points. So, let's do it. Right. I mean, seriously, as you're thinking about these, wouldn't it just be the perfect miniature golf place to have all these? Everything we're describing would be amazing. Yeah, Bender insulting you constantly. It'd be great.
Starting point is 00:48:11 You can almost give them all their own course, you know, your own nine holes each. Well, you could, yeah. It'd be amazing. Sure. All right, show me Futurama. Number 10 answer on the board. 14 total points for Scott to Brian and Juniper's 15.
Starting point is 00:48:29 You guys are, yeah, it's very close. All right, we'd have a lot of science fiction. In fact, it's almost entirely science fiction. If you count, I mean, Dune and Star Wars is a top and the bottom. So it makes me think everybody leaned. very heavily that way. I'm going to say you guys missed out on saying Lord of the Rings, so I'll say Lord of the Rings. Let's do Lord of the Rings. All right. Show me Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Number three, there's a little bit of fantasy for you. That's taking scout up to 22 points to Brian and Jutepers 15. Man, for the life of me, I can't think of what one would be. Jeez. Yeah. Yeah. All the number ones are used that I would have thought would be number one. I'm trying to think what would be just sci-fi golf in space. I'm trying to think of what I'm missing. Yeah, this is tricky. Okay, so we lumped all the Star Trek's.
Starting point is 00:49:15 All the Star Wars are lumped. Dorf on golf is what it is. We all know it, yes. Jim Conway was up to his knees. Yeah. I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to assume the tadpoles. I'm going to assume somebody put Mad Max Universe or Fury Road or something up here.
Starting point is 00:49:36 So I'm going to say that. That's a good one. Sure. All right. Reset the count. show me Mad Max universe Ah you guys let me down 22 in the list
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah damn and series could be video games right Series can be video games I just thought of that All right go ahead you guys Do you think water world is going to be up there Just big one water trap Oh shit I love that one
Starting point is 00:50:04 That's good That's good The other big sci-fi series that I had growing up is Battlestar Galatica. And I'm trying to think of how that would fit in here. Geez, I'm trying to think what would be the top sci-fi, though. I mean, is there something clever that we're missing? It's got to be something clever. Maybe it's Bal-Tar's strapped down with his legs spread apart.
Starting point is 00:50:33 You're just trying to hit him in the balls. Oh, my God. It's right there. Yeah, he's just trying to get him hurting. Golf ball tar. Golf ball tar. Altar. There's Warhammer.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Warhammer? Warhammer? Oh, dude. I would play that. I would effing never leave that hole. That's great. I never leave that hole. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Ice warm. Jeez. That's amazing. Let's go with some Warhammer. I'm down with it. All right. Sounds good. Show me Warhammer.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Oh, strike number two. Number 24, Warhammer. or 40K, yeah. Okay, well, we're talking video games, so I just, if I were doing that, I'd make one based on portal, and it's a series, and it's sci-fi, but I'm nervous about the game connection. So I'm going to say portal, because that, if that was even possible, it'd be amazing to have all these portals and balls going different ways. It would be perfect, right?
Starting point is 00:51:32 Like you'd knock it into the orange one, it comes out the blue one, and, oh, yeah, so cool. Let's go portal. All right. You know what? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Show me portal. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I know. Yeah, surprise me too. In the hole, in the blue one, I'm loving. Portal 29. Again, surprisingly lower than I would have expected. I think people just aren't thinking of video games. I think they're focused on movies and TV. But it did make me think, Juniper, when Scott said blue, I'm thinking, hey, what about the Doctor Who?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Ooh. Is it how small of those holes or how larger those holes in that Tartis, you're, you're. You can have the hole. You could have the entire park in the TARDIS You could do this at the end of the universe. Yeah, I like that. All right, all right. What do you think, Juniper?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Oh, yep. Yeah, that works. That works. Jupiter's so down with this topic. I wasn't found convinced. Did we, did we already do Battlestar Galactica? You did not do. Are you more prone to Battlestar Galatica as opposed to?
Starting point is 00:52:40 Did they already do BSG? I thought they did. No, GIST has not been guesty. I guess you just talked about it. Let's do that out and keep the other one on the backpock. All right. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Good choice. All right. Show me Battlestar Galactica. Number nine. Bears, Battlestar Galactica. That put you up by two, man. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:01 24 points for Brian and Juniper and 22 for Scott. Two answers left on the board. I'm telling you, man. Geez. But the good news is we got two strikes each between two of us, and we got to either get the top and number eight, or run the board. I have another one.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Got to give us, give us. It could either be a hit or miss, kind of fire. Oh, Firefly. Firefly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got a lot of Firefly fans inside. They always just wait. It's just like any sci-fi question. It's like we got to load it up. Let's go. Firefly. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Show me Firefly. Yeah. Number one. Number one answer on the board. There we go. we found it. We finally found it. Oh, my God. Basically, you, you've won the prizes because even if you get a strike, right. It's the only way Scott can win is to get that other answer. And if he does, the board is full. So you've won the prize. Either way you win. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:58 fantastic work. All right, we'll see if you can't get number eight. Yeah. Do you want to say something cool or do we just want to just throw it away? You do what you want to do. Yeah, I got another one. You got one? Give us, give us, give us. Back to the future? Oh, back to the future. Interesting. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, where we're going, we don't need caddies.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I've been trying to think of what pinball games are out there because it feel like they're tied together if you want to do one other. So yeah, back to the future is a great one. Interesting. All right. Do it. Go ahead. Show me back to the future. No. I think that's an awesome guess.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And just hearing it, hearing it guessed is like, yeah, you can totally do like, your ball has to pass through three different areas, 1985, 18, 85, 20, whatever, yeah. You got to hit it back of a train and let it, like, get to 88 miles per hour. Exactly. It's so, it just lends itself to, to it. Surprisingly, back to the future, not even guest or not even answered as a suggestion in the, um in the quiz it's amazing like how is that one totally missed i'm surprised by that as well yeah all right last answer uh if i hope i'm right uh let's go uh the alien universe
Starting point is 00:55:23 i want to shoot i want a ball to go right out of somebody's chest you know stuff like that yeah that's smart oh that's like it goes into an egg and then he comes out somebody's chest yes yes i love that idea all right show me alien Damn it. Yeah, missed opportunity, folks. Number 12, it almost even got you a bonus, yes. Look at the rest of these and see what's missing here. Number eight, Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Oh, wow. Yeah, because it is kind of a, it is. Yeah, the opening sequence kind of feels like it would be a perfect... Yeah, I got so shy about doing more fantasy that it just left on on the table. There really is only those two fantasy things among all of the... There's sci-fi, so I can see why. Number 11, hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy would have got your free guess. There's so many ways you can go with that.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Dr. Who is number 13. Oh, yeah? Dr. Hookew. Far Escape, Babylon 5. Fallout would be a great one. Silo, cyberpunk. Dungeon crawler Carl. Several people put, stranger things, space balls.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Hootie 42 answers with the dungeon crawler Carl if I had to guess. that guy loves it and Amy Wheel of Time Guardians of the Galaxy the only Marvel thing that came up was Guardians of the Galaxy
Starting point is 00:56:46 but I can totally see it Mass Effect Predator The Hobbit The Orval Dark Tower Arcane slash League of Legends Discworld
Starting point is 00:56:57 I guess that's Yep Discworld Dungeons and Dragons Event Horizon Fringe Interesting Labrith Mandelorian
Starting point is 00:57:05 Neverending Story Percy Jackson Red Dwarf The Black Hole the Twilight Zone. A great answer right there. Among us, 2001 of Space Odyssey. Tron.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Buffy. Oh, I like Tron. Tron's cool. Tron's a great one. Yeah. All well lit and stuff. That'd be cool. It'd be awesome. Fifth element. Fluston, Paradise. Galaxy Quest, invasion of the body snatchers,
Starting point is 00:57:31 Jaws, Krull, lost. Let's see. Mario. There's some great. one's in here. Planet of the Apes, Quantum Leap. The good news is there is a Mario golf now that... That's true. Yeah, there is. They're all good.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Rick and Morty, Sandman, Speed Racer. Go, speed racer. The brave little toaster, one person put. Why not? There's our little, there's our little Joker answer there. Tremors,
Starting point is 00:58:01 good, people in the chat room are suggesting tremors, which is great. Wizard of Oz, I think, is an excellent choice. Yeah. Yeah. And X-Files. Nobody did Indiana Jones in the... No, isn't that crazy? Like, again, you think of the train,
Starting point is 00:58:18 and you can have such a great... Just with the beginning of Last Crusade, you could have a great... A great miniature golf. With some umbrellas. Right. Or you have something in there where the ball goes onto a little platform
Starting point is 00:58:32 that's on a vine, and it swings across and leaves your ball on the other side. I mean, there's so many things you could do. Pass me the ball. I'll pass you to the club. I like the idea of Event Horizon because I feel like that whenever I play minigoth, like I'm slowly going insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, and you're like Sam Neal at the end with all that cracked up skin and everything? Yeah, yeah, yes. Gouged his eyes out. At the 18th hole of the mini golf, they don't go to 18 holes, do they? Oh, my God. Please tell me they don't. But by the way, I'm going to make a strong statement here. I think that the only good movie that Paul W.S. Anderson ever made.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Not the other Paul Anderson, but the W.S. Anderson guy. The only good movie he made was Event Horizon. All his other movies kind of suck. With that movie, freaking great. Love it. Space horror, baby. It's one of my favorite things. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Well, well, well, done. You know what that means. Congratulations. That means you've won, and I lose. But today was a close fight, and it felt real good. Brian's going to get to these codes. Jupiter, it's always a pleasure having you on. Man, how do you feel about your big win?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yay. Yeah. I love it. Pure judiper fashion right there. I'll bet it's very early wherever you are. Yeah, sure sounds like it. Can't wake up anybody. Hey, Dunaway, guess what?
Starting point is 00:59:46 This weekend, you and I are having a little show of our own. You want to tell the fine folks what we're working on? Absolutely. We're going to talk about that Wario Land because Nintendo is going to be kind enough to give us on Valentine's Day. For some reason, Wario, he's done a couple of releases on Valentine's Day, and Nintendo Online is bringing us the Game Boy Advance version of Wario Land 4. back for consumption, and we're going to cover the ones that were on the Game Boy.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah, and Game Boy Color in advance. Yeah, and that advance game four is one of the greatest ever. It's so good. It is. Yeah, yeah. I got a strong argument for three, though. That's because you're weird. That's because you're weird. That's because you're weird. And we'll discuss that.
Starting point is 01:00:28 But there is the, like, they came out with the, like, the version, the ultimate advance words that compiles all of the Oh, you're thinking of, you're not thinking of, you're thinking of something else. We're talking about the Wario games, Wario. Oh, why was I think you were talking about advanced wars?
Starting point is 01:00:43 I don't know. Did you guys bring up advanced? We mentioned advanced, and that might have thrown you. Oh, we said Game Boy Advance, that's what he said. Advanced Warrior or something, Game Boy Advance Warrior. Okay, that's what I was hearing. It was like, oh, okay, cool. You know advanced wars.
Starting point is 01:00:54 You know, it would be great, is if Advance Wars had Wario in it. That would be amazing. Or Wario had Advance Wars. By the way, I was busy getting game codes to Juniper. Oh, yeah, there you go. Sorry about that. It's all good. But that'll be this weekend.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Friday, 1.30 p.m. Mountain Time. Go to frogpants.com slash play retro for more details. Brian Dunaway, kiss our buttons. That's how that's supposed to go. It worked good. Like a beige-on aerolite is what that was. It was close. We bring up something that we're not even talking about. Well, you also made me want to play more Advance Wars. I love that series so much.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I'm telling you, man, that the Switch, I need to pick up. I need to see if it's cheap that the Switch compendium of all of the Advanced Wars games. Yeah, what they call that? Reboot Camp or something? Yeah, something like that. It's basically one and two in one package or whatever. I mean, I could just emulate the ones, but I kind of do want to play the new one.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I want to play the nice new graphics. Anyway, we're going to take a break. When we come back, Tom Merritt will be here. And after that, we got recommendals. Nicole's with us today. No Randy's got a meeting, work thing. Meeting. Ben meeting.
Starting point is 01:01:58 So that's all coming up after this song break that Brian brought. Oh, my God. I have listened to today's song about a dozen times. I'm loving this track. I'm not, and that's not exaggeration. That's not herperbole. This is such a great song. And those of you listen live, I strongly encourage you to go, say, go check this thing out.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I think you can find it on YouTube. The band is called Lights. This is a brand new track that captures both defiance and acceptance. This is the second release from their forthcoming studio album, A6, which comes out May 2nd. That's a lot to take in. The album is called A6. the date it comes out is May 2nd. Make sure you keep those separate.
Starting point is 01:02:40 This, if you're at all a fan of Courtney Barnett, there's a very Courtney Barnett feel to this song, which is great. I love it. The song is called Alive Again. Here is the band Lights. in the six slow and the speaker's hot and your recalls cold. You got your head eye and your stammered slow. I hate the way they do, I like the way you don't.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I see you where you lose. You see me chasing crows. We got demons. They never let us go. And I don't even... I don't even need to know This might be the night that I die And I don't want to die alone
Starting point is 01:03:44 You come a little closer I don't even need to know your name And when the sun comes crashing the window When my heart still pounds at least I know That I hide you But it's time to to go and you don't even
Starting point is 01:04:09 need to know you don't even need to know this might be the night that I die and I don't want to die alone so come a little closer I don't even need to know your lay this might be the night that I die
Starting point is 01:04:32 and I don't know I don't want to die alone, so come a little closer. I don't even need to know your name. I don't even need to know your name. I don't even need to know your name. I don't even need to know your name. I think I've been overcomplicating everything I just want to feel alive again, oh, alive again. I think I've been over-complicating
Starting point is 01:05:41 everything I just want to feel the life again Oh, life again Oh, life this might be in the night that I die And I don't want to die alone So come a little closer I don't even need to know your name This might be the night that I die And I don't want to die alone
Starting point is 01:06:11 So come a little close up I don't even need to know your name I don't even need to know your name You must stir the ingredients in your chocolate cake. To stir is to mix food materials with a circular motion to secure a uniform consistency. A spawn beetle. And we've returned. I forgot to unmute again.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Hey, we're back from the song and I'd sure like to know who that was one more time. So I know how to seek them out. Absolutely. The band is called Lights and their new album coming out May 2nd is called A6. That's the second single. It's called Alive Again. Again, the band is called Lights. Nice. Been some real bangers and bangers lately in the middle. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That track, I've really just had it on repeat all morning and totally dig it. Yeah, it's really, really good. That, except for when I had to listen to Dunaway's weird elevator screamo song, wasn't really screamo. Just had some Cookie Monster vocals in it. Yeah, he has an appetite for that occasionally. He does. Yeah, you know. I don't know where that came from, but he likes him.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I'm not here to judge too much, but let's just say you're a little weird done away. All right. Let's do this right now. Isn't technology wonderful? It sure can be. All right. I'm not going to say it always is, but a lot of the times it's pretty wonderful. And Tom Merritt is here to remind us how wonderful.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Tom, how you doing? I'm glad I have a wonderful story for you to do. Oh, really? Okay, that's exciting. Sorry for the delay. went very long with our game today and realize that, you know, you're a busy man. You've got things to do, so I'm glad we got you on here. I don't blame you. I blame Dunaway.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Yeah, blame Dunaway. It definitely was his fault, yeah. We've even all agreed. As long as he's not here to defend himself anymore. Exactly. We've shortened it to BD. So anytime you need to just blame him to say BD, we're going to go. For Brian or blame? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Tom's here, of course, from the daily tech news show each and every day. He's always scouring for the greatest and latest in. tech news covering it for all of us to hear and witness what's going on today what's the big story two good apple stories whoa positive like we love apple today oh good you know i think except that i can't do it because it's on apple even android people might like these stories uh first one is that you can now merge your purchases from a secondary apple account into the main account. This may not affect a lot of people, but it's certainly something Apple didn't have to do. You can log in to iCloud on the account you want to merge to, and then log into
Starting point is 01:09:13 your media and purchases on a secondary account, and then move it all. Your movies, your TV shows, your apps, subscriptions, whole ball of wax can go to that main account. It's no longer on the other one, though. It's not like sharing. You're literally... Yeah. You have to have sharing off to do this. You also, there's a few other stipulations in here. You have to have two-factor authentication on. You obviously have to know the log-in email address and phone number of both accounts. They're associated. But yeah, you can then take, if you've had two accounts, or maybe like I was thinking, you know, my mom died a couple of years ago. I could merge her stuff over into my own account. But as long as you have access to both accounts, you can merge all those purchases over, and then everything is on the main account. And then if you need to close that secondary account, I know a lot of people ran into this because they just, for whatever reason, created two Apple accounts over the years. And we're like, now I got these purchases over on this old account, but I have this new account over here. So it's a solving for that.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It's interesting because there's also been a push for services. You know, it's mostly I felt like it's always been aimed at like meta and Twitter and other places where you've got. Migration. Yeah, migration, especially for the deceased or, you know, you don't always know or whatever. So every year something will pop up for some old friend of mine who passed away and it'll say, let them know you're wishing him a happy birthday. I'm like, what are we doing here? It seems terrible.
Starting point is 01:10:41 So that's usually where I think of this problem needing a solution. But I hadn't really thought about this. In case of your digital locker, your place where you've got your movies and your music and your whatever it is that you've collected over the years. And if that person passes away, that's a great use case for this. this. Not just, oh, I want their stuff. Yeah, if you have their, exactly, you got to have their login. But it means it's not just out there stuck in a loop you have no control over potentially. And I don't know, it's a nice move. I kind of wish everybody would do something like this, you know. Yeah, it was sort of unexpected. Nobody was pressuring. You know,
Starting point is 01:11:18 there wasn't like a social media campaign or anything. Apple just did this. And the other ones, even more wide-ranging, Apple is partnering with Brigham and Women's hospital. They're a Harvard affiliate, the research hospital, uh, to study the effects of your data on your health. So not the effect of like what you're watching social media so much as like let's see what we actually know based on the data that devices collect. Now obviously for this, it's it's Apple devices. It's your AirPods, your watch, your phone. Um, but you can contribute your health data to this study anonymously. They don't, they don't try to identify you. Uh, and then they will look to see, okay, you know, what does this data tell us?
Starting point is 01:12:03 What can we actually legitimately say, oh, you know, based on this heart rate data, we know this about your health, this is something you should look at, this is something that you shouldn't look at, you know, or maybe it's a false positive. And even bigger connections like, what effect does your sleep have on your heart health? What effect does your mood have on your oxygen levels, you know, those sorts of things to just kind of give people more information that is actually usable versus, you know, right now you get a lot of data from these health apps and you're like, great, I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:12:39 So this is a five-year study to try to help figure that out. Tom or Brian, actually, you go to the gym all the time now. Would you be happy to share your data like this? Does that seem like a thing you do? Yeah, absolutely, especially with the, with the, like either the people around me or with the gym. gym, of course, like seeing my steps or my heart rate or things like that. They kind of already do that with Orange Theory. There's big TVs that actually show you what everybody's heart rate is and how many
Starting point is 01:13:11 calories they've burned. And it's, you know, if I was a competitive person, and I was when I started going there and realized I can't keep up with these soccer moms in there, you know. But yeah, no, it does. It's kind of cool, actually. But if it was a regular gym, just like your regular gym. 24-hour fitness or something like that. I think that would actually be really cool, especially if it's like, you know, user B has a heart rate of this right now or has, is doing this many calories
Starting point is 01:13:38 or whatever. Yeah. And Tom, and you're mainly referring to like research, right? Like researching medical research. Yeah. So this, you, you volunteer. You don't have to, no, nobody's going to have their data taken by this. You have to go download Apple's research app. They've, they've had this app for a Wow, they've got three other studies that've been running since 2019. And then you volunteer to say, yeah, I'll share my heart rate data with you. And in fact, you can decide, like, you know what, I don't want to share my sleep data. That creeps me out, but I will share my heart rate data. You don't have to share everything.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You pick a choose. You can stop sharing at any time if you start to feel uncomfortable about it. But all you're doing is saying, here, take my data and then put it in the huge pool of data of everyone in this research study, and then hopefully you can learn something from it because you've got medical scientists from Brigham and Women's Hospital looking at this stuff. Yeah, and it's opt-in, which is always important to me.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's absolutely 100% opt-in, even down to that level of which things to share. Like I said, you can go leave any time. And they will be asking you questions about your lifestyle and stuff. And again, you don't have to answer those, but the more you do, the more helpful it is for the research. Sure.
Starting point is 01:14:50 No, that makes sense. You need data for your research and, you know, why not? I actually kind of like this one. I think I would feel good about it. And it's a Harvard-related research thing. And I'm not saying. Yeah, it's a Harvard affiliate research hospital.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah. It's not like I'm giving this to Pfizer or somebody, you know. I mean, maybe ultimately they benefit from this data. I don't know. But the point is. Yeah, because this will be this study will obviously be used by Apple to make new products. The previous research studies they've been doing have led to participants. getting the vitals app that you get
Starting point is 01:15:25 that vitals app came out of these previous studies walking steadiness is the thing they do the hearing aid stuff that they do the hearing test with AirPods all comes out of that I just watched Adam Savage YouTube video about the hearing test stuff and how because he's apparently been wearing a
Starting point is 01:15:42 hearing aid even back when he was doing the regular TV show and so he was like yeah I've tried this and I've tried this other one and he found a pair that he really liked he got at Costco of all places. But he also says, the AirPods, legit good at not just the hearing test,
Starting point is 01:15:59 but also as hearing aids with their, that increased people's speech feature that they have on there. And that came straight out of the Apple hearing study that's been going on since 2019. Yeah, which is great, which is brilliant. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I like this.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I think this is all right. Did you mention the second thing they did? You said there were two stories. Those are the two things, the migration? Oh, they are. Obviously, they're separate. Yeah. Right. They wouldn't be the same, would they?
Starting point is 01:16:27 I'm going to transfer all my data to this other account and give you all my medical information. One story, done and dusted. Hey, thanks for transferring all your movies to the Apple Health Study, but that wasn't really as helpful as your heart rate data. It seems you've watched Dune Part 2 four times. This has a lot about you and your sedentary lifestyle. And your heart rate is down. So, hmm, maybe we should prescribe Dune Part 2. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Thank you for sharing your angel heart data. There you go. Well, aside from that, what else you got going on that you'd like to mention before the big show today? Do you all remember Patrick Beja? Oh, vaguely. I've heard of that guy. Vagely. I really remember him.
Starting point is 01:17:05 If you don't know him, he's French. And he is also a tech journalist, or as much of a tech journalist as I am. He covers technology. It has been for a long time. And so with this AI summit happening in Europe, I thought, In fact, happening in France, I thought who better to talk to about it than Patrick Beja. So today's Daily Tech News Show briefing will feature one Patrick Beja, giving us the French perspective on AI in general, as well as what happened at the summit. Nice.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I put on my French scarf that he gave me some years ago. Oh, nice. So we can represent. And it's usually around the neck of a skeleton over there, which I promise means nothing. There's no secret message in that. I hear that everybody in France wears a scarf that has the word. France. Yeah, I know, right?
Starting point is 01:17:54 Can you imagine? There's no way this. In case they forgot. I've never verified where he got it. I assume he got it here, you know, while he was hanging out. Well, anyway, Tom Merritt, always a pleasure. I can't wait for that. That'll be great, actually.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I haven't heard Patrick's voice enough these days. So that'll be awesome. And, of course, I'll be on there today because it's a Wednesday. Daily Tech News show live will happen at 2 p.m. Mountain Time, if you are interested. We'll see you then. Bye now. Thanks, y'all.
Starting point is 01:18:23 See you. All right. So cool. Yeah, it is cool. Very cool. You'll need that scarf today with the temperatures outside. It's cold, man. It's actually so flimsy.
Starting point is 01:18:32 This would do nothing. It's made out of like, you know how, if you go to a car, a car dealership and in the lot, they have a lot of flags waving. It's that lat material. Oh, no, really? Yeah. It's really, man. It's lame. I mean, I don't blame Patrick for it.
Starting point is 01:18:49 It was a nice gesture. whatever. It also was on somebody who was shirtless at Nurtacular. I don't remember who that was, but somebody had their shirt off and then wore this. So this is kind of gross now that I'm wearing it. Yeah, was it during our, oh, what you said during Nurtacular?
Starting point is 01:19:05 I was thinking it was during TMS Vegas when we were doing our Overpens tournament because that was, who was walking out with their shirt off? Is that Bruce? No, who was it? I don't remember who that was. Which one was it? How many years ago?
Starting point is 01:19:18 It was when we did our Overpans tournament. Oh, so first or second, back. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe it was 2019. Who was that? I can't remember. I remember them walking around with their giant big gulp of Mountain Dew. Sounds like Bruce.
Starting point is 01:19:34 It does sound like Brucey. I'm going to be right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, Zoe, it was the one of the, I was thinking TMS Vegas, not Nurtacular. Yeah. The shirtless, because we had a shirtless guy at one of the TMS. I think it was Nurtacular 2015. Patrick brought this.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Patrick has never been to a TMS. Miss Vegas. He's missing out. I would love that. There's even a Paris in Las Vegas that would make him feel so much at home. He could probably get that scarf there. Yeah. I'm sure he has nothing but happy feelings about the fake tower and all that. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah. He probably thinks that's great. Actually, I know he likes Vegas, so he would probably have a good time. All right, that is going to do it. Judging happening tonight at a Brown 4, you guys won't be here to say. Are we not doing recommendals? I was hoping we would do recamentals. What am I, what's wrong with me?
Starting point is 01:20:20 What is wrong with me? I jumped way ahead, thinking we were done. I think that scarf might be a little tight. I think it might just be the time because we went so long. I think my brain's just like, oh, yeah, we're done. All right, you're right. Recommendals is happening. And I just, you know, psych.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I got you all. You all thought the show was over, but nope. Still going. All right, let's do this. Well, what do you recommend? It's time for us to do some recommendals, things we've seen on streaming services that we think you might enjoy as well. Joining us on the line is one, Nicole Spagnolo.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Hello, Nicole. Can you hear me okay? Yeah, we can. I can. You sound like you're on a phone or something, but that's fine, whatever it is. Well, on my gaming headset. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:04 It's not the best game. What did Mark break this time? Yeah. Real quick, I was going to tell you that the Super Bowl was weird because the defensive coordinator for him or which team. it was Kansas City. His name is Spagnolo, and they kept calling him Spags.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what Mark growing up, that's what his nickname was Spags. Hey, Spags. That's great. It's a lot easier than saying your full last name, so there you have it. Well, it's so funny. Anytime I'm dealing with doctors, they're like, and then I just say it for them. And I said, I'm going to, I'll teach you a trick.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Yeah. It's three parts. Spag. no no low no low like no low because they all want to go spegnolia or whatever they want to
Starting point is 01:21:58 F does not want to go low no no no I like it well it's good to have you here can you tell me I want to hear about these dogs you were telling me about on our text yesterday can you explain Oh my God Yes yes yes so Mateo and I
Starting point is 01:22:13 as part of our medical journey we have an amazing neurologist, and she's like, surprise, you both have epilepsy. And we're like, what? And it doesn't, it still doesn't make sense to me. But I'm like two months ahead of Mateo. As soon as I started taking the epilepsy medicine, I was like, holy crap, I feel good. Like, I finally feel good.
Starting point is 01:22:42 so anyway we're still trying to work out Mateo and so we both go in and she has this tiny little dog and she's like yes I bring her in every once in a while she is a seizure detecting dog and they make and so just like you can have a
Starting point is 01:23:03 dog that detects like diabetes like when your blood sugar goes too low you can have seizure detecting dogs as well and this four little dog kept going between me and Mateo alerting us that we were having seizures
Starting point is 01:23:21 the whole time we were there and I was like I'm Googling it can you have a seizure and not know it and the answer is yes you can so it was just amazing to watch this cute little eventually she had to take the dog out of the room because we were
Starting point is 01:23:40 we were stressing the dog out so much because we were having so many seizures, apparently. And so what the dog does, and I've seen a few videos of it too, when a dog detects that you're going to have a seizure, because some seizures are, like, I grew up, I had a cousin who had the scary seizures, right? The ones where your whole body locks up, you convulse, you have to make sure they don't swallow their tongue.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Like, that's the kind of seizure I associate. in my head. But there are there are lots of different types of seizures and that's what I'm trying to learn now and understand now. Yeah, I did a little reading after we talked and it was pretty amazing.
Starting point is 01:24:26 They have dogs to do that. They have some that detect certain cancers. Yes. They have dogs. It's not all that different than like drug sniffing dogs. They're just trained to A, know the signs. B, there are smells.
Starting point is 01:24:39 They can detect that we have no idea about that are like associated with these. medical conditions and you're right about the stigma that like epilepsy people just think oh grand mal seizure you're on the ground right having the fit that you always see in the movies and stuff and it's it's there's so much like granularity between that those happen for sure but there's so much between that and just literally not knowing it's happening because your brain's just firing in ways you don't know well you know I can have one I am very aware and alert I can drive and have one I can like it's it's kind of weird for me as I'm trying to understand and my doctor even said she's like
Starting point is 01:25:20 you've had this probably for a very very long time you're just really good at masking it like you're really good at like getting through it but unfortunately now your body has said nope and you have to listen to your body now I assume it's starting a way it'll wear on you after you know a long enough time right yeah yeah so i just thought it was so cool that there was a dog his name was cupcake and uh it was just he would go between me and matteo and he would sit and he just paw at my leg like hey seizure seizure and then every once in a while he go bark like seizure and then he go over to matteo and do the same thing oh at least i mean at least it's a that's awesome that it's the thing but also i'm so happy
Starting point is 01:26:18 matteo like you're gen x like us they didn't know about this stuff back then we were just kind of getting their heads around it if they saw a guy have a full on grand mall on a bus well yeah you can call it a seizure but you see somebody else you're just not sure why things aren't working out right and it turns out they've got all these like electrical mishaps happening in their head like sometimes it's just a matter of like space out like yeah um As a kid, I could zone. I have the really, I've never really thought of it. But I have, they would call me space out because I could just zone into something, like, focus.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Like, I can hyper, hyper, hyper focus. And there's like parts of that that's kind of related to seizures. And, like, it's all just fascinating. I'm still in the very early stages of understanding, and it's hereditary. And so she's like, she looked at Mateo's EEG. She's like, yep, same thing. So we're getting. They checked your daughter or no?
Starting point is 01:27:28 They've talked to she showing no things. We haven't checked, Ava yet. She's not having any issues. But my brother also has an autoimmune condition. his is his attack to thyroid um so and it is possible that there's something going on there too so it's just it's just a matter of you know you just kind of you live your life you do your thing to do what you can and uh i'm just listening to my body more even though my brain says nah you can you can you can go to you know sam's club and do great groceries and you can do the kids Girl Scout thing and you can do all those things. I just have to
Starting point is 01:28:16 I have to say for Gen X this is hard. Yeah, we don't like being told we can't do stuff. We can't do stuff and I need help. Yeah, I don't know why our generation is like that but we're just very stubborn that way. Because we're just used to handling it ourselves.
Starting point is 01:28:33 We were told to be independent, fix it yourself. Yeah. I'm not going to come fix it, you fix it. And like I know it can swing too far the other direction, but I wouldn't mind to just a little bit of like middle ground there, you know? Just like, yeah, and that's what I'm doing. And so if you're listening to this and you're identifying with kind of being a hyper independent person, that's not a good saying. I'm going through therapy right now. I have really good therapist right now that I have been kind of talking to her about that.
Starting point is 01:29:05 And yeah, it's just, it's just what I'm going through right now. And it's just kind of, I'll send you some videos of some of these dogs, but the, uh, the, the, the dogs are amazing. So, and there's actually a place in St. Louis. Of course, Mateo, the first thing he does, he's Googling, what are the best dogs for seizure detection? Because this kid wants a Shiba Inu, like you wouldn't believe. But then he learned that Shiba Inus usually have seizures. Oh, shit. So I'm like, that dog probably won't work.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Yeah. You'll have to be the seizure detector for the dog. You guys have to swap places. You can't train lumpy or whatever your dog's name is. I forgot the name of the dog. Douggy. Dougie. Dougie.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Dougie's no help. Douggy. I don't want Dougie near me. Like the moon. Dougie do what Dougie do. Now, Abby, I believe she has a. She already has it in her. When she, when I am not well, she knows it.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Yeah. And she will come and lay down on me. Yeah, I get that. We have a dog like that too. It's pretty great. Yeah. It's, yeah, yeah. So, so yeah, that's kind of, you know, I've been gone for how many, how many weeks have
Starting point is 01:30:30 been gone? Well, you were here, you were here last week, right? No. No, no. We've been. Week before that. It wasn't, it wasn't too long ago. I think it's been three weeks.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I'd have to look back and see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. My sense, I need a dog to help me remind me what time it is. Yeah. Two weeks ago was just you and me, Scott, on the 29. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And then Randy last week and then you had an extra. And then you're right. It's been even longer. Yeah. The last recommendal we got from Nicole was December 18th, Red One. Oh, wow. December 18th, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Holy shit. I didn't even do any of January. No, I'm not seeing you listed for any of January. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, no, no. The holdovers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I knew I wasn't going too quick.
Starting point is 01:31:21 That was when I was really weepy. I find that steroids make me very emotional. And that's part of my, I have two parts going on. I have, you know, the epilepsy part. And then I also have the autoimmune and stuff alive. that is trying to be treated right now, and that is done with a procedure called IVIG. And if you see me on my Instagrams, I'm like, all right, I'm here for 12 hours. Please send me funny things.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Well, as long as it's not making you broid rage and, you know, destroy a public property, you'll be okay. I'd be like, but it does give me a false sense of energy. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah, I remember doing steroids for that stupid thing on my neck. And they had me doing some intravenous stuff, and it made me feel like I could pick up a car and throw it across the street. And, of course, I can't do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:32:17 But you always had this feeling of like, give me something big to throw. Well, for me, it's my brain. It gives me this sense of I can do anything I think of. And I have so many ideas and what I want to do, you know, whether it's a house project or whatever. So I know we're spending too much time on me, but yeah, it's a good check-in. It's been a few weeks, so we don't mind checking me. It's been a few weeks. So I did have a good recommendal, but it's kind of depressing.
Starting point is 01:32:54 So I wanted to go with more of a lighthearted recommendal this week, and maybe we'll do the more depressing one the week after. Yeah, I'm excited for your recommendal today, because that's... Same here. I think we all have an appreciation for the subject matter in particular. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, Brian, let's start with years as we do in our tradition. We got a clip here that is all set up. Just give us a little setup.
Starting point is 01:33:19 What do you got? Yeah, you're going to recognize this guy's voice immediately. You know, he's our green goblin. And he is the, just about the one person in the movie I'm recommending. When I was a kid, my teacher asked. What are the three things I would say from my house if it were on fire? I answered my sketchbook, my ACDC album, and my cat groucho. I didn't mention my parents or my sister.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Of course, most of the other kids did. Does that make me a bad person? My cat died I lent that ACDC album to a guy named Kojo when I never saw it again but the sketchbook I kept
Starting point is 01:34:25 Oh I know, is this the lighthouse? Oh no, hell no Music fades He'd be talking like this, you see But art is for keeps I honestly I know you've said it
Starting point is 01:34:41 in our shared discussion but I'd forgotten I don't know what this is and I love him a couple people in the chat room we've gotten it this is a movie called Inside and
Starting point is 01:34:50 So what said pickle hustler Hustle? Someone did say pickle hustle What the hell is that movie? Is there a movie called pickle hustle? I don't know but I'm putting it on my list of things to watch
Starting point is 01:34:59 things to look for this is like you said it's a movie called Inside starring Willem Defoe as almost the only human being you see in this film. You do see other people and there's reasons you do. But he plays an art thief who sneaks in, climbs into a penthouse apartment to steal some artwork. And in tripping the security system or trying to disable the security system,
Starting point is 01:35:26 he locks down the apartment in a way that is like an escape room basically, where it is the doors cannot be opened. The windows cannot be opened. The windows can not be broken the um everything so he is trapped in this apartment and the who knows when the owners are going to come back if they come back um so he you know it basically oh and as as he's tripping the security system it also screws with the thermostat which goes from blazingly hot to ice cold uh every every few hours back and forth there's little food in the fridge the water isn't working, like basically... Dude, it sounds like a trap.
Starting point is 01:36:12 It kind of sounds like a trap, doesn't it? And it also sounds like a movie trailer that I just watched where it's a car and the guy gets in the car to steal it and they lock the car down. No, that was actually somebody's TikTok video of breaking into a Tesla and the battery dying. No, there's a movie coming out just like that. I can't remember the name. I bet you's somebody in the chat. Someone will know it.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Sean Bloom knows it. It's the one with the Pennywise Scars Guard. I love the Pennywise Scarsguard. That's a great way to differentiate which kid you're talking about. So we got to keep track of our scars guards. But it sounds just like the premises are like almost identical. Yeah. Well, at least in a car, you hopefully will have other people driving by and seeing the car.
Starting point is 01:37:02 In this case, nobody knows he's in there. Like he is trapped in there And he is I won't even say how long He is trapped in there This is a movie That relies so much On having a really good actor
Starting point is 01:37:17 To carry it And Willem Defoe absolutely does He's in his This is I think we're in the prime Of Willam Defoe Whether it's the Lanthromo stuff Or the Lighthouse
Starting point is 01:37:28 Or I still haven't seen Lighthouse You need to You should One day, one year, when you're doing great and you have like four seizure dogs, then that's the time to watch the Lighthouse. Because it's an A24 movie, right? Well, yes, but it's most, it's a Robert Eggers movie, which is the bigger deal.
Starting point is 01:37:46 He's like this. But if A24 is carrying it, I'm in. Oh, well, it's definitely A24 films, yeah. They don't make any garbage. All their movies are great, but I'm sure they do, but so far, so good. Yeah. Anyway, but this looks like, is it just mostly him? Like, they're hardly anybody else in it.
Starting point is 01:38:02 It is mostly him. Like, like you said, you're, you're, you're, getting 99% of the film is Willem Defoe in this house trying to survive. Like he is slurping off the ice from the inside of the freezer because there's no water except the water that occasionally shoots out of the automatic plant waterers that he's kind of trying to drink from. There is some, listen, I'll be the first to admit, there's some bad slurpy sounds in this thing that almost, you know, took me over the edge, but I was able to get through it. Here's the weird thing. So I, you know, I look on rotten tomatoes and it's got a,
Starting point is 01:38:37 an okay critic score 60s, low 60s, but the audience score is way down in the 40, like basically 40%. And so I start looking at reviews. It's a mix of people who, A, don't understand the film, who are looking for deeper meaning like, well, I don't know what it's trying to convey. There's one person who says, I didn't even see the film. And he gave it a one star. Um, there's other people who are like, you can tell they just don't like Willem Defoe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, so it's, but then there are other people who just say this is the worst move I've ever seen and give it a, if I could give it zero stars I would, but don't give any reasons as to why I like it. This is what I hate about Rotten Tomatoes. I, you know, uh, why I don't follow it. I'll look at things and say, oh, this sounds kind of interesting. What's it on Rotten Tomatoes? And if both scores are low, I'll probably take that in consideration. I definitely look more at the critics stuff than I do the, um, the other, the, the popcorn meter. Mm-hmm. Those can be games, so they're a little easier to game.
Starting point is 01:39:37 sure they totally are and you can get review bombs and things like that but this is this is a movie if you are a fan of willem defoe this is 100% right up your alley because you get you get every version of willem defoe the kind of uh angry willam defoe the kind of i'm going pretty much crazy william defoe after a while the um you know the fun happy willam defoe he uh to kind of kill time he does anyone ever interact with him that would be a spoiler to say okay all right i won't be okay yeah the um yeah and that's that's actually one of the things i liked most about it um and and i want to talk to people after they've watched this because that's one of the things that i find the most fascinating about this film is what they how they evolve his character um it's
Starting point is 01:40:34 it's really good. Here's the problem, the other problem. It's on stars. I couldn't find it anywhere else. So it might be worth signing up for a free stars membership. If you haven't done that in a while, you get seven days. And there's a lot of stuff on stars. I was looking at their list.
Starting point is 01:40:47 It's like, oh, I kind of want to see that while I've got this trial period of stars. You might be able to find a more complex way of watching it. And also make sure you're looking at the 2023 movie inside because last count there were like seven movies called Inside. Oh, I imagine, yeah. It's got to be huge. There's a video game called Inside. There's so many insides.
Starting point is 01:41:11 And there's Inside Out and there's Inside Man and there's, you know, there's all these other insides. But the one that's basically the, it should almost be called Willem Defoe is Inside. That's what the movie should be called. Yeah. Go ahead. So the movie that's coming out March 21st with Bill Sarasgard is called. blocked. Oh, I like it. That's one trapped in a car. Yeah, so. I like it. These are all
Starting point is 01:41:39 spins on like buried alive kind of, right? But you just can't. This is very much like, or, um, uh, castaway. There was some interesting parallels between this and castaway that I loved, that, uh, just that feeling of like, not only am I stuck here, but nobody knows I'm stuck here. So what happens, you know? And you think, oh, it's a car, right? They can see them. Well, it shows you in the trailer. Somebody sets this up and he's talking to him in the car. And so it's this interaction between who owns the car. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:42:16 So it's almost like a I've got you now kind of thing. I've got you. No one can see you. And I'm going to do some stuff. I'm going to mess with you. Oh, it's produced by Sam Ramey. Oh, really? Oh, that sounds good.
Starting point is 01:42:30 That's cool. May is when that one comes out. It's called May, March, March, March, March, March, March, next month. Clef breaks into a luxury SUV, realizes he slipped into a sophisticated game of psychological horror. Nice. I'll watch this. We all drive down here. Yeah, we all.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Is it going to smile weird? Because I can't handle it if he smiles weird. Exactly. Still my car, man. Don't steal my car. Yeah. Well, while you're waiting for blocked to come out, watch inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Do it. It sounds great. I want to see it. I like Willem Defoe. Weirder, the better. I'm all in. It is every, it is, it's so good. And like you said, if you, if you even just somewhat like Willem Defoe, Tina kind of hates Willem Defoe. And I think it's because of the Lanthromos movies. She says, he just doesn't look like he'd, he just doesn't look like he'd be a
Starting point is 01:43:21 nice guy. I'm like, oh my God, have you ever seen like happy, friendly Willem Defoe in interviews and stuff? He seems like the nicest, sweetest guy ever. But, uh, yeah, I get it. He's supposed to, he's He seems like he's like, he's like going to intense and rip your head off. I was saying, I mean, he doesn't, whenever I see him in interviews, he seems like he's easy to work with. Everyone who always talks about working with him, loves working with him. So he's probably just, he's just really good at being weird, you know? Yeah, yeah, which is really, you know, that's a sign. Like, if you're really good at playing those kinds of characters, it's a sign that you're really good at it because people believe you're really like that.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Yeah. You know, yeah. I watched the lighthouse again. About a month ago, I watched the lighthouse. I love the lighthouse. It's fantastic. But man, his role, there is nothing like it. Him walking around going,
Starting point is 01:44:10 Ah, you think ye came to this lighthouse alone, did ye? It's like saying yee all the time. It's fantastic performance. He's so good. That's so good. And you got to see him in Nospiratu as well. Oh, yeah. That's such incredible, incredible range.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Is that still out in theaters? I think it is. It is, but it's also rentable now. So you can buy it or buy it. rent it? It's not streaming, but it's streaming in a rentable way. Not freeming, yeah, but... No freeming. That's right. That's why we need that term. There's a good example. We need that term, freeming. So can I just say, uh, I did take Mateo, he showed interest in, in leaving the house, and I was like, let's go. Uh, and we went to see dog man. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think you talked about
Starting point is 01:44:56 in our chat. And I don't know what dog man is. What is dog man? All right. half man, half dog detective. Do you know who Captain Underpans is? Yeah. I'm familiar. Do any of us really know who Captain Underpants is? At the end of, this is a Luke Besson movie? Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:45:14 I'm going to give you a quick lesson in what kids that are in first grade to fifth grade are really into. And they're still into it. And I love. It. So the author's Dave Pilkney. He was a kid that had a really hard time in school. He had ADHD. They didn't diagnose it then. He was set outside all the time from class because his teachers just didn't want to deal with him. And so he made comics. And so he made Captain Underpants in like his way of coping. And Captain Underpants is really just, it's a chapter type book, but it has pictures throughout. So kids that are resistant to read, I'm like, try Captain Underpants or Diary Wimpy Kid or Dogman. Dogman's a graphic novel. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:46:23 It's stupid. It's so stupid. But these kids love it. And it gets them excited. decided to read. I just found out, Ava, so Ava's in third grade, she was falling behind in being able to read. She started reading Dog Man this year, and her teachers started reading Harry Potter to her. I just found out her latest, you know, what they test for, she's reading at a fifth grade level now. Oh, wow. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:46:58 so she is she the trailer is funny dog man the movie please go if you have a kid that is resistant to reading or any of that the movie is horrible has pete davison in as p d the cat um but i i i did it for the kids not a big not a big pt davidson fan i take it no i like pitt davidson i just did i didn't really like dog man. I did kind of like Captain Underpants. Dog man is just a little more sillier because it's like it's a... It looks like it. Yeah. It's a, you know. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Just got too far away from the... Oh, there you're there. Oh, sorry. All right. It's a cop. And then the cop's dog get into an accident and they put the dog's head on the guy's body. And all I can think is... and control like what happened to the guy what happened to his brain what did he do with his man all i could do is think all i can think is like i try to make it i try to rationalize it right so you can't do that it's not good so but that yeah there you go dog man's and captain under
Starting point is 01:48:23 pants yeah that means the cop died because dog man took his body yeah hey it's a dark it's a dark theme but we're here for it's such i like you find the the steedy underbelly of dogman dog cop or dog man yeah dog man so so yeah so yeah you're not watching the movie. I'm like, okay, be present, be present, be present. I'm like, God damn, this is terrible. But I did it for my kid. Yeah. Well, the user review seemed to reflect about where you're at. It's about 50% in the IMDB. People don't really dig it. But it's the kind of movie that, you know, when our, my kids are, you know, in their 20s, they're like, oh, remember Dogman and Captain Underpants? That was so great. So, yeah. Yeah, I get it. Every generation's got their
Starting point is 01:49:24 thing. I like the style of it. I like the style of it. I like the. I like that like weird flat 3D, 2D thing going on? It's cool. Yeah. The art animation is pretty fun. Yeah, I like the look of it. All right. Let's get to your recommendal, Nicole.
Starting point is 01:49:38 It's... It will not be dogman. We will not be dogman. Not dogman. No, sir. What do we got here? You want to set up for it or just play? The setup...
Starting point is 01:49:47 How should I put it? I don't know. Amazon Prime. It's playing on Amazon Prime. Um, this is a documentary about someone I have followed for almost my entire life. Um, his sense of humor is ridiculous. He has been, he's been through the ringer and this documentary, I don't know, he goes places, kind of like how, um, I'm honest about my illness. he goes he gets really into his and he's a very in my opinion a very funny comedian that paved the way for a lot of people in comedy and he was pretty groundbreaking at the time
Starting point is 01:50:42 and and this is a documentary about him all right here we go he directed this documentary which may sound weird but this clip sort of talks about it so here you go check it out This is not really a documentary. What is it? I don't know. I don't think there's any such thing as a true documentary. Why? What is a true documentary? Because the camera affects everything.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Ah. As soon as you document something, you change it, so therefore you're not really documenting it at all, right? Something like that. Mm-hmm. Is it unusual for the person who is being a biography, of them is it unusual for them to direct their own biographical movie yeah yeah you're not supposed to do that well i don't know if there's rules but i think there are are the rules who wrote those
Starting point is 01:51:35 rules i know somebody knows a lot convention somebody who knows like a lot about making movies okay there's probably a reason for it too well because you can whitewash what you say yeah yeah so you're planning to do that yes I don't know what the a was for. I know, but I love that. It's a great scream. Really good. Nicole, tell us about this is Tom Green documentary, or is the Tom Green.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Yes, it's just called the Tom Green documentary. So it's on Amazon Prime. I have been following Tom Green on Instagram for quite some time because he left L.A., sold his house, and he's from Canada. he just moved back to Canada and he lives close to his family that what that in exchange you heard was him and his mom he's really still close to both his mom and his dad and a lot of his pranks were involved involved his parents but he started up so this documentary goes through I learned so much about him And I was just, I don't know, I just felt, I felt good learning about him and, like, his origins and what influenced him. And he used to be in, so he lived in Ottawa, Canada, and he started a, and he loved a skateboard. He was a skier. And he found a friend, and he liked to skate to.
Starting point is 01:53:15 And then they started a rap group. I know this sounds so ridiculous. but his rap group was like there's no rap groups in Ottawa can't but it kind of shows how every little thing that he did led up to his show on MTV which is what's called the Tom Green Show and that's the beginning of it goes this is the Tom Green Show it's not the Green Tom show like it's stuck in my head forever i know that i mean i used to watch it it was so m tv at that time yeah the internet just that was the internet for for our generation that's where you watched your you know what was cool liquid animation liquid television like all bevis and butthead
Starting point is 01:54:14 like all of those things it was all ground breaking stuff it was all ground groundbreaking stuff and I just was drawn to MTV and away and I saw someone say stop to like the Gen Xers stop trying to make
Starting point is 01:54:33 MTV what it was to you then it's moved on to something else and it has it has you know the MTV I knew is locked in a little time capsule of that time because the internet didn't exist
Starting point is 01:54:49 And so what this documentary does is kind of go through his journey of doing public access shows and kind of his parents were so supportive of him. And I just, I love his parents so much. They put up with so much stuff in those pranks and stuff that he would do. They suffered. We're so patient with him. Do they talk, does she have any reaction to him sucking on a cow's utter in that one episode? No, they talk about the slut car, apparently. You remember that?
Starting point is 01:55:24 Oh, yeah. He painted their car and they were just like, oh, my God. He's got a lot going on right now. He's got three things this year. He's got this. He's got Tom Green. I got a mule, some TV special, and something called the Tom Green Country, which I think is him talking about moving back up there.
Starting point is 01:55:43 He lives, like, out in the nowhere, is like in a farm or something, right? Like a ranch or something like that. but he's just having he's having a bit of a revival right now yeah and a green of sons yeah what i and what i loved most about this documentary so you know you're going through his journey his idol is david letterman you know he watched david letterman a lot um and you get to see him like have an interview with him and and then him being his age now kind of talking about that experience and how it affected him and then going and when he dated drew bearmore when he met her well initially they met on the set of charlie's angels and they dated for a while and then they did
Starting point is 01:56:31 get married but he got testicular cancer yeah i heard about that and he was so like uncomfortably open about it and there are there is one seen it yeah about checking your balls yeah check your balls and think about it daily why did she did she leave him for that what was the deal there
Starting point is 01:56:57 he's kind he doesn't go into any details he just says he said between the pain and everything with the cancer and his career and her career career. He's like, I survived, but my marriage didn't. And I don't, I honestly don't think there's any ill will between the two of them.
Starting point is 01:57:22 It just didn't work. And he, he, he, it goes through some more stuff of him trying to, they like do a new Tom Green show. And when he, he, it says, I was never canceled. basically the cancer canceled him and that and and what took his place was jackass and it's true and and he paved away for shows like jackass and they they kind of kind of give him credit and tribute but then he gets into in 2006 doing a web show oh yeah I remember that brief well it's I'm looking at it right now it's something in what was it called poolside poolside chats no Tom Green's house tonight no it was like no it was like web a web of something what I even
Starting point is 01:58:18 doled it Tom Green's house tonight went from 06-07 38 episodes webbo vision webbo vision webbo vision what he called it I don't remember that at all it's not in his ImbD thing oh it's another producers maybe it's under actor I'll look at it and he had a ton of people come on one of those people was Joe Rogan and And there was just some interesting conversations. And Joe Rogan had Tom Green on later on his show. And he goes, you're the reason why I'm doing this, you know? Like, you inspired me kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:58:52 So whether that's good or bad, I'm not getting into the details of that. But there are other good things that Tom Green did. Yes. I'm sorry. I have a terrible mic set up. that's totally fine totally fine i'm at the kids are off from school and i'm making do so do what you got to do i blame mark it's fine blame mark exactly it is all marks uh check it out it is called the oops there it is where did it go i lost it the tom green documentary it is called it's got a
Starting point is 01:59:26 the in front of it and uh yeah i want to see it i'm into it yeah me too um i think he's the weirdest dude's ever he's somebody that tina and i disagree on on comedy wise like she found his stuff to be. Then there were a lot of people who felt like felt this way about his comedy. He's like, okay, yeah, it's repetitive and irritating. How does it sound? Oh, I'm not. Oh, you sound a little better. Oh, I switched to my iPhone. It's, I kept on saying, switched to the iPhone. So I was like, sometimes you got to listen to it. Yeah, sometimes your phone has your best interest. Maybe I should listen to Discord. Sure. Why not indeed? All right. Well, let's get to mine here. This is a quick one. I like horror movies. I
Starting point is 02:00:07 watched one that had been recommended to me two years ago just finally getting around to it it's uh on showtime slash paramount plus so i thought now's my time and i loved it here it is put your hand on it not like hold it now say she's talk to me talk to me talk to me oh they won't be laughing for long what she put her hand on another hand but not the kind of hand you're thinking of um that trailer freaks me out dude i'm dead serious i think you need to so knowing how you feel about the possession movies i think that this is going to be a wild ride for you it's called talk to me um talk to me yeah came out uh speaking of a 24 is an a 24 joint came out in 2020 It's an Australian-made film, and everyone in it is Australian, I think, most of them anyway.
Starting point is 02:01:13 And it features a cast of young, you know, Gen Z somethings who come, I'll just put it this way. I don't want to give too much way. But they basically come across this ancient hand that looks like it's made of stone. And it's got all this, in fact, you see it on the movie poster. It's very prominent. Although it's not open like this in the movie poster. It's in the shape of like a handshake form. permanent handshake form.
Starting point is 02:01:39 But you can see written all over. It's like Post Malone's face. It's just covered in like, you know, like graffiti and little words and stuff like that. And so the idea is it's been passed down and through tons and tons of people. And it reminds me a little bit like the way kids in the 80s we would treat Ouija boards. It's kind of that idea where you all get together for a party. Have you ever had a weird experience with a Ouija board? Not never.
Starting point is 02:02:04 It was all horseshit. So never. But anyway, I had a really, really, really, really weird experience with one. Well, I guarantee you somebody was dicking with you. That's what I can tell you about that. But anyway, so this thing, this hand has got, the point of this hand is it's got like some kind of power to let you, the person on the other side, shake it. You say, talk to me. And then suddenly in front of you will appear only to you.
Starting point is 02:02:28 You're the only person can see it. It will be some sort of dead entity, somebody who doesn't exist anymore. And they're kind of messed up and kind of weird looking. And it freaks you the F out the first time you see it. But then you let them in and you become possessed by them for a moment. And then that person's eyes get weird and they start talking to the other friends weird and their face is kind of contort. And it's fun for a while because the spirits that are inhabiting these people aren't so bad. They're just freaky.
Starting point is 02:02:56 And if you have a timer, it's like a certain amount of time and you blow out a candle, basically shuts the door and they have to leave. And then that person's fine. Then the next person tries it. And so they're just passing it. around doing their thing. Things go horribly wrong. That is all I'll say about it because, but here's what I want to say about it. Two things. One, I usually
Starting point is 02:03:13 don't like possession movies because I think the rules are weird and it's like haunted haunted houses, which is a kind of possession, right? House that is haunted is like a possessed body to me and the rules are all over the place and so they don't really do much for me. I'm not usually that worked up about them.
Starting point is 02:03:29 But this one does new stuff, interesting stuff. The acting's incredible. And there's this who's the main girl give her credit her name is here it is Sophie Wilde she plays Mia she is mind-blowingly good
Starting point is 02:03:48 there's this kid named Riley I won't tell you about his role but Riley played by Joe Bird this kid is so good he plays about 12 years old or so he blew my mind the only person you're going to see in this and go oh I know who that is is Miranda Otto who plays Sue she's the mother of Riley and that's, I'm no man from Lord of the Rings, the daughter of King of Rohan.
Starting point is 02:04:12 You know what I'm talking about, red hair, that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's great, and she's in it. Anyway, she's the only person you're going to recognize. You'll see her and go, oh, yeah, Lord of the Rings, she's cool, I like her. The rest of it is all newbies and faces you've never seen. Anyway, my other thing I loved about it was the ending was masterfully done, and it's been a while. most movies horror movies in particular endings are hard they're so hard to get to get to nail them
Starting point is 02:04:38 and to have you kind of not prepared for what it does this movie is so good at its ending that it's all i could think about after watching it i loved the ending in this movie it was so well done it's so uh it just did not it never it didn't leave me going oh that's lame or that i never got an answer to this or this thing didn't ever happen or that person ever whatever you got like amazing, amazing ending. And I don't want to give any of it away, so I'm not going to say anything else about the ending, but it's fan-freakantastic ending to this movie.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Where is it streaming? Paramount Plus slash Showtime. Either of those will get to there. Showtime and Paramount at the same thing now. So they all own each other. Paramal Plus, man. They're showing me that they are a streaming service to keep, not just turn on when I need something on their service.
Starting point is 02:05:27 It's like, yeah, I'm keeping Paramount Plus going. Yeah, same. I didn't think I'd ever say that. when it was ABC All Access or whatever piece of crap it was and it was all Star Trek and that was it was like exactly but now they got some real stuff yeah you have a few people that want to hear my Ouija board story can I can I tell you my Ouija board yes go ahead and tell your Ouija board story let's okay so in college um we you know we were in the dorms we get bored and there was um one guy in particular that was like into like supernatural stuff And I also went through a bit of a witchcraft phase where I was just interested in, like, energy and, I don't know, past lives and all of that. So anyway, fast forward, there was like, I think three or four of us, and we were doing the Ouija board. And I was obsessed with having a boyfriend because I had no boyfriend. and I asked the Ouija board
Starting point is 02:06:32 who my next boyfriend would be and it spelled out those name Paul and I'm like I don't know anybody named Paul and then it kept saying haven't met, haven't met and that was that and I was like okay whatever, that's stupid
Starting point is 02:06:51 and probably two months later I meet a guy and hit it off he asked me out we go on a date it was a nice date and I was drying my hair
Starting point is 02:07:09 and I was like holy crap his name's Paul it freaked me out so bad that I just told the guy I'm sorry this is not going to work out oh wow really it freaked me out
Starting point is 02:07:26 so bad This poor guy probably does not know the reason why I did not continue dating him is because a Ouija board two months earlier told me that I was going to have and meet a guy. It was just, yeah, it was so weird. It was so weird. It was just so weird to me that it freaked me out and scared me. And I was like, and I didn't touch the Ouija board ever again. And, yeah, I was like, I was just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just,
Starting point is 02:07:56 Paul Rudd. That's right. Paul Rudd, famous actor, never going to get old Paul Rudd. Now, see, the only experience
Starting point is 02:08:03 I've ever had with the Ouija board is at a friend's house and everyone's got their little hand on the thing. And I'm like, all right,
Starting point is 02:08:08 what's it supposed to be? And he says, tell me this. And I don't remember what it was. I said something. And then I felt, I felt and saw my friend
Starting point is 02:08:14 moving the damn thing. I felt him going, yeah. And I'm like, dude, you're moving it. He's like, no, it's the spirits
Starting point is 02:08:21 are moving it. And I said, all right, I'm done, and I went and played in television instead or something. This is so stupid. But I could see how that would freak you out, you know? Paul, I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Totally. The young, impressionable age and all that. Coincidence is a powerful... But there were no guys in between Paul. Like, that was, that was it. And it just kind of, I was like, I can't handle this is too intense. So I just kind of... I've lent it a little more clearance if the guy's name was Zenobia McFlurry.
Starting point is 02:08:51 And that was the thing to you, that we could. board told you Paul's Paul's not an uncommon name I know I know I know I know but
Starting point is 02:08:59 I love that name I want to hear that it just freaked me out and I feel bad for for Paul yeah poor Paul
Starting point is 02:09:07 wonder where Paul Paul where did Paul end up was he barefoot on Abbey Road or what happened I don't know I just I cut ties
Starting point is 02:09:15 like that was it it was done I just didn't I love this thing Matuba said in the chat made me laugh He says, we threw one, talking about a Ouija board. We threw one in the campfire once and I swear it screamed softly.
Starting point is 02:09:31 I don't know why that's so funny, but I love it. She just got a dress that is a Ouija board that she brings out for, yeah, where is it on Halloween? It's really cool. Yeah, I mean, it's fine. It's just, I don't know. I don't know what I don't know, you know. Does that make sense? I don't think that if you go to Target and buy a.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Mattel Ouija board Is that who makes it Mattel? I think it's Mattel or Parker Brothers or
Starting point is 02:09:58 somebody. The movies would make you think it was some ancient shit in an attic from the 1800s. It's freaking not.
Starting point is 02:10:05 It's just a board game. It's so dumb. It's Parker brothers or Martin Bradley or whoever it is. But I get it why Paul would freak
Starting point is 02:10:13 you out, especially at an age where this stuff is no. Yeah. You're all. Honestly, I think that's why
Starting point is 02:10:20 this movie works so well is because it plays off of that universal thing that every kid went through which is we're all down in the basement the parents are gone whoa you're telling me that this this thing from tail raiser
Starting point is 02:10:32 is going to bring pinhead to the surface or whatever a few weeks ago maybe a few months ago about some people who get like a a freaky Friday suitcase that they're playing around with at a party and it's kind of like a bizarre thriller kind of thing
Starting point is 02:10:50 I'm looking to remind myself It's on Netflix, and it's like they all swap with each other. Yep, it's called It's What's Inside. I recommended it a day before Halloween, and it's on Netflix. It's a similar kind of thing. Let's play with this weird thing at a party, and nothing could possibly go wrong. No. Here's the other thing to understand.
Starting point is 02:11:10 I was raised Catholic. So. No, you got all that great mumbo jungle. I got all that wonderful baggage that comes with being raised Catholic. and just ha ha let me let me tell you let me tell you a fun one in Mormon lore
Starting point is 02:11:30 this is amazing and no one I don't know how many people have heard this but growing up we were told I was told this all the time it was never like like doctrine to tell us this but all we had adults in our lives and everything tell us this that uh cane right cane and able cane kills able that whole thing that cane was cursed to because in the Bible
Starting point is 02:11:49 it says something about cane cursed to walk the land forever something, something. We grew up knowing or believing or being told that Kane is Bigfoot, and that's who Bigfoot is. So if you ever, you ever see Bigfoot out there, it's actually Kane still wandering the earth, feeling with his curse. Complete and utter bullshit, of course, but as kids, your kids. It's almost like, it's almost evil to tell a kid a thing that is so dumb and so hoarse shitty. Do you know they're going to believe? Because they trust you because you're an adult. It's so bad.
Starting point is 02:12:25 Who he knows. He's been around long enough and same kind of circles as me. That was a thing that was pounded into us. Like, you know, Bigfoot. No one's going to tell you this, but Bigfoot is Kane. So are you, did you ever watch the Ten Commandments mini series on TV? Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Not that you're not talking about the movie with Charlton Heston. You mean the one that was a TV. No, no, I'm just talking to the mini series that was on TV. Yeah. So I'm going to tell you a little story. Okay. Just the way she said that. I know, that was great.
Starting point is 02:12:55 Go ahead. So Mateo did homeschool last year, and the teacher is pretty religious. And she thought, oh, I'm just going to put on the Ten Commandments mini-series. I have never exposed Matteo to any of the, you know, Jesus on the cross, any of that Old Testament stuff. And he came home crying so hard because he's never experienced anything. He's like, there was a guy and he had a head on a stick and he pushed his eyes out. And I'm going, oh, my God, what the hell did she show? And she's like going, I am so sorry.
Starting point is 02:13:44 I just showed them the Ten Commandments mini series. And I'm like, oh, dude, the Bible's a horror show. There's so much dark stuff in there. You want to get parental permission before you start showing it. Yeah. Bible's full of dark stuff. You go old testament. You're looking for the rated R part of the Bible.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Oh, my God. Put him in a cave and they blocked the entrance with a stone. And when he came out, he saw his shadow, and we had six more weeks of winter. But it really did make her kind of reexamine, like, what she was showing to the kids. I would hope so, yeah. Yeah, no, they get all worried, they get worried because they get told that you don't let them watch the Simpsons. And I'm like, you know the most church going, stay together, never, never divorce, never fight, always come back family in the history of television. It's the damned Simpsons.
Starting point is 02:14:37 They're in church every week. They're the last thing you should tell your kids not to watch. Don't have them watch the Ten Commandments. Don't have them watch people getting hung on crosses with nails on their hands. What the F? What are you doing? Oh, yeah. So anyway, that's my, you know, me traumatizing my child.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Well, there you go. Perfect recommendal, good anti-recommmental there at the end. Hey, I just wanted to say one last thing about the Tom Green documentary. They do go into Freddie Got Fingered. They talk about the movie quite a bit and how it's really become a cult classic. If you're not familiar with Freddie Got Fingered, give it a watch. and he wrote Riptorn.
Starting point is 02:15:23 It's so awful. It's wonderful. And I still quote many lines from that movie. It's just so stupid. And then the other thing I wanted to mention is they talk about during that time
Starting point is 02:15:40 it was Monica Lewinsky. She was treated very, very poorly by the media. And And I really admired Tom Green for reaching out to her and just treating her like a person. Like she was launching like a, he did. And I remember, because she was trying to, she's trying to survive. So she launched like a purse company.
Starting point is 02:16:11 And he brought her out to Canada. And it wasn't a joke. It was just him being a person with her and showing her as a person. And I just remember watching that, thinking that he's a good guy. So if you're not a fan of Tom Green, just watch the documentary. You know, it's just a documentary. It's not like you're watching Tom Green show. So, yeah, I just, I forgot to mention that.
Starting point is 02:16:43 All of these will be up on quicktMS. dot L.I for your perusal. So go check them out. Nicole, I hope you have a fantastic week. And, you know, get Dougie, get Dougie into those detection classes. It's all going to work out crazy. We'll do Abby. We'll do Abby. Dougie. Dougie ain't learning anything. No. Dougie could teach me a thing or two, but that's about it. All right. We'll see you next time. Take it easy. All right. That is going to do it for today's show, everybody. A nice long one today. That's right. We're not going to bill you. We won't bill you folks for the extra time. No. But our judging is happening later.
Starting point is 02:17:14 we'll let you know how that goes this is on the film fest and uh well it should be fun we're looking forward to that we also got a new word on the street just went up yesterday me and gregg street sat down with juno their new production head and talked about what the year 2025 looks like for their game that sounds interesting to you it's a really fun watching their sausage get made so check it out over there at frogpans.com slash street if you'd like to get the podcast or the video archives it's going to do it for us brian let's leave these people with a song we'll do you Yeah, we've got one that's going out to Rhonda. Rhonda says, good morning, hoping you two are having a delightful day.
Starting point is 02:17:49 I'm writing because my husband, Chris, is a huge fan and listens to your show religiously. He's been listening to podcasts since the beginning of podcasting and your show in particular since shortly after you two started it. As such, he has this thing where he loves retelling the stories shared and may occasionally refer to you as, quote, these guys I know. I tease him when I catch him doing as he obviously has never met you. His birthday was on Friday the 7th, and I would ask two things for him if you'd allow me. First, to play a cover for him. He's currently my D&D group's DM and has been very immersed in Bardcore. If you have anything like that, awesome.
Starting point is 02:18:23 If not, whatever you feel, maybe right, blah, blah, blah. Second, would you to allow him the honor of calling you his quote unquote friends or cordially acknowledge his knowing you? Sure. I would give him the personal freedom to share the stories you two feel or tell as well, perhaps without me teasing him, no guarantees, though. Yeah, he can absolutely call us that. It's not a problem. Call us your friends. We totally are fine with that.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Absolutely. Yeah, not an issue. Thank you for sharing your life so animatedly with your listeners. Sincerely, Rhonda. Rhonda, you sound like an awesomely supportive wife and partner, and it's just fantastic. Bardcore, I love Bardcore. So, yeah, this is a great one, too. This is from 2020, you know, this album called Ye Old Pop Gone Bardcore.
Starting point is 02:19:11 You know you're in for good stuff with that. It's a cover of The Weekend. Here's Blinding Lights covered in Bardcore style. We're going to be. It's a good. It's a lot of I'm going to You know what I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 02:20:19 So, I'm going to be able to be. So, you know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. You know, You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to
Starting point is 02:21:53 I'm going to I'm a lot I'm I'm the I'm I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Well, well, well, look at you listening to me speaking to you. Find more great shows and goodies at frogpants.com. Yeah. Don't go blaming the beer.

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