The Morning Stream - TMS 2786: Recliney Bike

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Minigolfers Assemble. I'm the king of the Swingers all, the golfing VIP. He's not the Floyd the Barber we deserve, but he's the Floyd the Barber we get. Rest Stop Dominance. No country for tall old people. We Are All Chode Butter. Eating Two or Three Sleeves. New Fangled Touch-Tone Telephones. 28 Jackals Later. I Don't Like Dead Sean Beeeeeeeeeean. Ignoramus? wasn't his dad in Ghostbusters? No one wants to watch M Bison play Team Fortress. I Took An Anchor to the Face. There's a New App For That with Tom. De-Karen the Paragraph with Nicole and Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is this real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality. Well, there is one kind of escape. And that's to toss a little financial love to your friends here at TMS at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, many golfers assemble. I'm the king of the swingers all the golfing VIP. He's not the Floyd the Barber we deserve, but he's the Floyd the Barber we get. Rest stop dominance.

No country for tall old people. We are all chode butter. Eating two or three sleeves. Newfangled touch tone telephones. 28 jackals later. I don't like dead Sean Bean. Ignoramus. Wasn't his dad in Ghostbusters?

No one wants to watch M. Bison play Team Fortress. I took an anchor to the face. There's a new app for that with Tom. DeCaron the Paragraph with Nicole and Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. If Mary Jones loses her looks, her health, her disposition, the breakdown is most likely to begin over the ironing board. But it need not happen. As soon as someone shows Mary the Ironwright story, her days of drudgery will be over.

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite store on the Citadel. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It's Wednesday, February 26, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That there, right there. Right there. Yippie Kaya! Mother Scratcher, something like that.

Something like that. Yeah, here we are again, you guys. We're back. We got stuff. We got things. It's a show. It's a Wednesday. We got all kinds of crap lined up, you know?

We got Tom Merritt on tap at some point. We got the recommendation. All the fun stuff you can handle on a Wednesday. It is the packed episode of the week. Like, we don't, we don't chintz out on hump day. No. Chin's, chintz is still okay to say, right? I think so.

Chintz is all right. What does chintz even mean? It means, I mean, it means cheap, but. Yeah, it's like a, I want to say it's Yiddish chintz. Chintz out. Yeah, I'm looking here. I don't see. Chincy.

Yeah, you're being chintzy. I hope that's okay to say. I don't know. I think so, yeah. You never can tell anymore what's okay to say. saying. Informal North American, cheap and of poor quality. But, God, I'd always thought it was interesting.

I would have thought Yiddish, right? Because it feels like a Yiddish thing. Trace back to 16th century India. Whoa. It's derived from the Hindi word chint. My hesitation was really quickly doing the math. Is this okay to say? It is okay to say.

You may say it. I do that all the time. I got it. Also, it could mean gaudy as well, right? Like, so like... Right, like decorated, like, um... Too much gold, too much brass. There's a fabric, uh, uh, fabric chintz.

So picture of, uh, Jeff Bezos going around in a ridiculous shirt, I would call that chintzy or gaudy. Oh, really? I haven't seen it yet. You got to see this. It's so bad. Where is this? If I just do Bezos shirt? Yeah, shirt.

Is it any, is it better or? worse than Zuckerberg's a Chechnine and Coke dealer black shirt and his gold chain and his

It's also That one's also very bad Why can I find this? Dang it It's like this really It looked like a New Year's party or something Okay I can't freaking find it

If someone out there finds it Link it will show it on the show Please do, yes It's not on blue sky or something And I don't know where it went from there Yeah, it just wants to show me Jeff Bezos shirts that I can buy. Oh, yeah, which seems about on, that's about on point for Jeff Bezos, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.

Jerk. By the way, whenever I go to the dictionary.com or Merriam-Webster and we're looking up a word. I always like to check the word of the day, so let's see what it is today. Oh, let's see what the word of the day is. Here we go. Ignoramus. Oh, Ignoramus. That's a favorite, actually.

I love the term ignoramus. It's pretty good. Yeah. The more syllables you can put in a word to derogatorily describe somebody, the better, I think. I agree. I feel like we don't use it enough anymore, though. Nobody says, ah, you're such an ignoramus, you know? No, exactly. What an ignoramus. Let's bring it back. It's like a, it's like a Greek god. Ah, the great ignoramus. Ignoramus. We will have his day. For Latin, I guess Latin would be. All right, I'd be Latin. Here's what it means. An ignoramus is an utterly ignorant or stupid person.

So it's exactly what you think it is, folks. Sure. Never forget, never surrender. Ignoramus. Today's word of the day. Ignoramus. That's right. We got a couple things to get through.

I learned something yesterday that I had no idea about. You think you know everything about pop culture and old stuff, new stuff, stuff in the middle. But when you learn something, you want to talk about it. So here's what I learned. I've been watching, don't ask me why. I don't even know why I'm doing this. A simpler time, maybe. I don't know.

Comfort watch. Probably a comfort watch. But it's just kind of in the background, not really paying attention. but I've had the Andy Griffith show going, you know, do do do do do, do, do, do, all that. Yeah, it's fine. I'm in season one. Fish and holes and going around with Barney, you know.

Right, right. Otis is in jail. And Aunt Bea. Aunt Bea. Hello, Peter, stop putting applesles down my cleavage. I did a whole deep dive on her. She's got an interesting story. But like Otis in jail because he drinks too much, all this kind of stuff.

Right, right. I had an old episode yesterday where they were. they were running around town busting the four different moonshiners that are in Mayberry Oh nice Real hoot and a holler This stuff

But it just has kind of a You know, old black and white thing It wasn't even a my Like I wasn't even born And this shit was happening It's just I don't know Comfort food, right? Well, I find out

One of the key characters In the history of the series Was Floyd the Barber You think about him a lot When you think of the show Right? He's a Handy

Andy When are you going to come in for another haircut, Andy? I'll get those sideburns right this time, Andy. Like that all the time. And it was always a stupid joke about him getting sideburned wrong. It was so dumb. But anyway. Oh, really?

Okay. So I'm watching this thing. And there's an episode where they first introduce, this season one, so we first get introduced to Floyd the Barber. And it's this guy. This is not Floyd the Barber. Oh. Yeah.

That is not the Floyd the Barber. I'm thinking of a dark-haired fella. Yeah, you're thinking of this guy, right? I'm thinking of that guy. Yeah, that's the Floyd the Barber we all know and love. For people at home, just listening, this is the actual Floyd the Barber actor. This is the guy before him. So like Seinfeld's dad and mom, or no, just dad.

And then George's dad and I can't remember somebody else. Right. Oh. The change of the Beckys, the Darren's. Yeah, there you go. The Darren's is a great example. Except I guess in that case, it'd be more shocking, right? because you got, like, seasons with the first, Aaron, and then seasons with the last. Was that, was the old, the gray-haired dude just like in the pilot, or was he in for quite a while?

He was a, it was, so it was way deeper into the first season. It was like, I don't know, 10 episodes in. And it's the first time he'd ever shown up. And it would be the last time for this actor. He never did it again. Okay. So it was basically introducing a character, Floyd the Barber, who you'll never see played by this guy again. Yeah.

It's a little bit like Lloyd Braun on Seinfeld, where his first appearance is a hold of, different human being. Right, right. And then later they come back to a guy that would then do it every time he showed up. That guy who's, uh, right, the, um, the guy who was on next generation and, uh... Oh, yeah, the mind control, rapy guy. Yes. Yeah, he was awful on that.

Right. The really bad beta, the beta Zed guy. Didn't we see him on, uh, some film sack that was underwater, some kind of... I'm sure we did. Dude is on, it seems like he's on everything. Yeah, he got around. He was, yeah, exactly. Well, anyway, these two chuckleheads, never the twain shall meet. And the thing is, Floyd number two hung around forever for the rest of the series, even when they went color and all the way till the end of the thing, the Floyd, the barber we all know is the Floyd the barber we get.

Ironically, because you know how I do this. I go see who's alive and who's not alive and everything. Sure, sure. Floyd the barber number one, who looks a thousand, lived way longer than Floyd the Barber two. That guy died. Oh, really? Yeah, he died right after the show ended, basically, 71 or 2 or something. God, you look at those guys, and if you were to guess, like,

all right, which one of these two actors lived longer, he definitely would pick. Oh, you'd pick this guy. Younger brunette guy. Yeah, this guy here seemed way more energetic. He already seemed 80 in the show. Right, yeah. He went on to live a lot longer than him. He only was, I think he died in his 60s, Floyd the Barber did.

Or the one way. Classic old man face, by the way, on the left there. Just like, oh, yeah. That is your. Doesn't it feel like... What do you... What do you do this new fangled touchtone telephone thing? I like putting my finger in a ring and spinning it around.

He looks like a subject of a Twilight Zone episode a little bit. Yeah. I'm confused. He totally does. Aliens. Why are the aliens here to kill us? Exactly. Anyway, it's fun to learn.

So I learned something. And I wanted to share that with people as dumb as it is. There was two Florida... to Floyd the Barbers. Yeah, that's total news to me. Yeah. Also, that show had an episode called Ellie the Councilwoman, or Ellie for Counsel. Okay.

Well, Ellie was probably love interest for Andy. Yeah, she was very cute, very pretty. I remember kind of having a mini crush on a woman who, you know. Listen, Sheriff Andy had good taste. He did. Like, you know, you look at the long string of women that the sheriff was hooked up with then. It was great, though, because he did all right. This episode is all about her running for city council.

And nobody in Mayberry's history, no woman had ever run for public office before. Okay. And the men lost their collective effing minds in this episode. I'm sure. That a woman would somehow hold public office in this town. Wow. It hit real different in 2025. Yeah, but I'm also thinking like, boy, times have sure.

No, they really haven't. Not entirely. I mean, I guess, I guess... Not with that old white Mayberry bunch? No, not with them. But it was really... It was a really... I don't know.

It hits... People should see it. It's interesting. Because the ideas back then, they were like kind of being subversive without actually knowing they were being subversive about it. I think.

Right. Like just the sheer idea of suggesting she could run for public office and be this strong, independent voice and all the men losing their shit, I think maybe in some... 69, that may have been, or 63, whatever it was, that may have been, people would have gone, oh, that's a weird, you know, they may have actually been freaked out about it, but then today we see it and go, oh, what's wrong with these cavemen? And the way it's portrayed works for the ladder. It works for us seeing them like cavemen. It's hard to explain. I actually really got, I actually got a big kick out of it. It's very good. Anyway, enough of that. Let's move on to this. We got a phone call from our old pal, I am sci-fi. Good deal. Ian lives in New York City, and he had this to say about Buckees.

Hey there, Scott, Brian, and the caveman. It's Ian. I am sci-fi. I texted this a couple weeks ago when you guys were talking about Buckees, and it didn't wind up making it on the air. But since you wound up doing this whole voice-lide thing, I figured I'd put my voice to it. So in New Jersey, there is a sign that was put up as you're entering New Jersey from wherever Wednesday. you came with a sign saying, if you want to go to Buckees, turn around, make a U-turn and go 581 miles, because that's the nearest Buckees to New York, New Jersey area. And it's a sign that made me throw my fist up in rage because I had the opportunity to go to Buckees when I was coming back from Florida a couple months back, and I didn't realize until I was already past the Buckees that that was the place that I should be going.

as my friend message me, hey, make sure you check out Buckees. And we had just passed the last Buckees. So just thought I'd bring that up. Love the show. And I hope you enjoy my wonderful sonorous tones. It's very nice. Oh, my. Yeah, it's very, very nice.

I totally do. Yeah, I agree. What a, it's a little waste of money. I mean, it's great. I'm not complaining because I think that's fantastic. That's hilarious. But seriously, for Buckees to advertise a store that is over 500 miles away. is so Bucky's and such a waste of money.

It's such a waste of money to do a billboard, but it's also perfectly in line with how they do things, right? Yeah, yeah. It just seems like the joke they'd want to play. And, you know, they have a right to be cocky about rest-stop dominance. You know, they've gone all out. Everybody else is a little half-ass compared to them, so it is what it is.

They can do whatever they want. I am nowhere near one. I'm going to have to go on a big road trip somewhere to see, I guess the one in Colorado, Scott. You're just going to have to come to Denver. I'm going to hurry up. My aunt's, you know, she's okay, but I got to hurry up. Yeah, you don't want to push it, right?

No. That's why we're doing the Arizona thing for my mom. We just want to make sure everybody's got, you know, a little bit of time with mom. She's in her mid-80s. She's okay, but she's just never know, you know. Yep. I think she's going to outlive everybody. Because unlike me, see, here's the thing I noticed the other day.

I've talked about this on the show before. There are no tall. are no really tall old people. You just don't see them. They don't exist. Name the last time you saw somebody who was like in his mid-80s to 90s who is really tall. They don't exist.

And Carter's like, they shrink, dad. They shrink. I'm like, sometimes they do. She's not wrong there, but it's not always. I think they mostly hunch over more than shrink. It's probably more accurate. Yeah. But anyway, six foot three. Six foot three is pretty tall.

and I don't remember ever seeing a six-foot-three person. Yeah, you say Jimmy Stewart, I don't think he was six-three. I think he was like five, eleven, maybe six. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how tall. Okay, now there you go. There's one. He always did seem really tall, but yeah.

Ruthane says great-grandmother was six-five and lived in 95. All right. Well, there gives me hope. Okay, good. All right. But that's also, oh, father, not grandmother. You know, that does give me hope because it's just a rare thing. You see shorter, older men.

I think you also, nobody said, well, that's, the exception that proves the rule. That's the most BSE statement ever, by the way. Yeah, I hate that. It's more like, that's the outlier. Exceptions don't prove the rule. No, it's the outlier that proves that there are outliers, that's what it is. Right, exactly, yeah.

Because you always find that old guy's like 98, and he's like, I smoked one cigar per day and I drank 400 gallons of beer every week, and that's how I lived to be 90. No, you didn't. You're an outlier, you weirdo. You can say those are the reasons you lived that long, but they're not. You got lucky. That's it. Roll of the dice.

People are bringing up Conan O'Brien. Conan O'Brien's not that old. I mean, he's 6'4, but he's not... He's in his 60s. He's still... Yeah, he's not super old. No, we're talking like 80s, man. And like somebody else said, Jeff Goldblum, he's 72.

Yeah, and he's 6'4. He's a little taller than me. But he's not 85, is he? No, no. I'm not saying... Look, I'm not even saying you want to live past 85. I'm not even saying that. Max von Sit-out. Okay, Maxxon Sit-O's not bad.

That's a good... How old was he? I don't know. That's a good question. Does somebody have an age on Max? Because he was tall. Good old mingo. Mingo phone.

Yeah, oh, that's right. I always forget he played that until you bring it up. I always forget. Max von Seidow. Well, first, let's do height. Because height matters here. That's the point, right? Six foot four.

Tall guy, very tall. Okay. All right. And he died in 2020 at the age of 90. All right, then. It looks like the blood was getting to the feet. Yeah. We were talking about billboards, and I was like scrambling to find this because this is something that I just found to be so bizarre in Denver.

So in Denver, as you're driving down Broadway towards Spear Avenue, huge, you know, busy street, there is a, there is a billboard for a V-tuber of all things. And it's not like I'm putting it in our Hopefully this works I'm putting a photo on our Discord here Take a look here But it's not like Hey I mean

Who's driving down the street And says oh you know I'm really looking for a good V-tuber To look at It's way up high There aren't any QR codes No Or anything to scan quickly

It's not a name that you can like Really commit to memory easily or quickly it's Niyaru Chiu with three U's at the end there And the billboard says For those listening Your relationships may not last

But this eternal shooting star idol will Yeah Virtual Idol and Variety Streamer Who also plays TF2 Every single Monday And then it's like a Twitch and a YouTube thing Like Why

That's weird dude It's so bizarre A billboard is a bizarre thing to have this you know it seems like if you're going to advertise this spend the money on banner ads online where people can click on them and get to get to the site as opposed to advertising somebody's Twitch stream on printed media on the side of a building in Denver that's really odd I'm going to just so go ahead and say that's a very strange thing to do to advertise there in general but also your name is not a not a memorable one no no I mean you you you glance at that thing you might remember it until you get to to the next red light. And by that time, it's like, wait, was it, how many U's in Narchuchu, whatever it was? By that time, by that time you're done. Yeah, why don't you, why don't you have an easier name to remember than Narchu-choo-ch-ch-U?

I don't know, a tiny dot CC or a tiny URL or something that makes it a lot easier. Like N-Y-A-R-U-C-H-U-U-U-U. That's too many U-S. It's too many U's. Also, I have a, so I have a, this is a bigger beef I have with the, with that whole crowd with the V-Tuber community. Yeah, yeah.

I don't mind. I think V-tubing is actually kind of interesting. It's really, yeah. You know, it's digital puppetry and there's a lot of reasons to think it's, you know, there's some cool stuff around it.

Why is it always a goofy, teenage anime girl? Why can't it be some other stuff? Can it be something else? Because if it was like a dude that looked like M. Bison, nobody, like, you were driving down Broadway's like,

Well, I'm not going to watch that guy play Team Fortress 2, no way. Yeah, it's a fair point. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, yeah, a lot, young boys are into, like, sexy anime girls. I get it. Exactly. Yeah. But I just wish, you know, like, there's a, there's a big range of animation you can get. You can get lots of animation that features this kind of characterization, or you can go watch, I don't know, uh, arcane.

so why aren't there more arcane looking things or why aren't there you know scrappy doo if you got a bunch of Scooby-Doo fans or I don't know I don't know what it is like I would rather watch Batman from the super friends looking Batman right as a V-tuber like playing two fortress too would be great yeah I watch that every day and be going oh come on Robin think I found a sniper I go stream with Robin and you're good yeah all right well good luck to them we brought up Billboard, so I had to bring that up, because I see that every once in a while while I'm out lubering, and it just cracks me up. Three V-tubers outside Ebbing, Missouri.

That's the next big film. Very good. Nicely done. Give me a show title. Excellent. Hey, you got an update on the golf deal? What's going on? I do, yeah.

So our Tuesday night event at TMS Vegas is going to be Swingers' Minigolf, and I heard back from them with a price. I think I talked about this the other day. It was just astronomical for us to try and do some sort of like, we're going to pay for the group and have everybody pay us as part of their ticket and that sort of thing. It was just too expensive. I knew about this before tickets went on sale. There was just no way it was going to be feasible to do that. So the tickets go on sale 60 days in advance, two months in advance, which means that on March 1st, which will be two months before April 29th, which is the night of the thing. March 1st is when tickets go on sale

It's two months ahead of time I don't think things are going to just like It's not going to be like Pearl Jam tickets Where they're going to sell out in minutes It's you know we've got time to do this But we definitely want to all schedule Our tea time

So to speak as close together as possible So that we're all playing together as groups So if you go to the TMS Vegas discussion channel in the Discord We're doing some talking about to A, figure out what the party size is so that we can say, all right, if party size max is four or six, we're going to assemble as much as we can into four-person groups or six-person groups and book all as one so that we can make sure we maximize that thing. Because basically when you book, you get your choice of every half hour, 7 p.m., 7.38 p.m., but they release groups every five minutes. So we want to just make sure that from seven to eight o'clock, every group, every five minutes is going to be TMSers.

So that we're all playing together. Sure. Then you can yell up to the group ahead of you. What are you guys doing? Quit holding up the train. Exactly. Play through. Play through.

Exactly. Exactly. I want to be able to yell at people, not having to be strangers. Although it would be funny if somebody wedged themselves between us and we're just like, what happened. I love it when Randos get caught up in the TMS things. We talked about it in the bar car, the high roller. and it's just fun for them to see this whole bizarre party of nerds all like shouting, you know, I can definitely say why you like it.

People are yelling fart gas and now they don't know what fart gas means. We're just passing it down. That's great. So we've got some time. Tickets, like you say, don't go on sale until Saturday. So we're going to figure things out. We're going to start a, there's going to be, there's a, in the board game sign up spreadsheet, which is really like the all unofficial event and board game sign up sheet.

big things to Leonima's, I think, who originally put this thing together. We're going to have a tab that's going to be swingers parties. Geez. Hello. Swingers mini golf parties. Yeah. Swingers like swinging a club, folks. That's what we're doing. Yeah, exactly. No offense. I mean, no, no, no, what you do in Vegas or even outside of Vegas is all up to you. Yeah, we're good.

But that way, if like, oh, I'm coming alone or there's going to be two of us, can we join your party of four or your party of two? and be in a in a group to do mini golf so we're going to make it you know make it really really easy for people to group up and do that sort of thing so keep your eyes and i'll make another announcement we should have further understanding of the plan tomorrow uh for tms i'll make another announcement of like what excuse me what we what we're going to do to that that effect cool i'm looking forward to that it's going to be fun yeah me too everyone loves a nice swingers night absolutely and we'll try and spread out the the frog pants all-stars so it's not like a you know you're not going to be playing behind a party of Scott Brian Bobby and TV's Travis and our wives and oh yeah well we'll mix it up mixing it up's the best part that's the fun exactly exactly so that you guys can you know we'll have people playing through all all the groups watch for more details and of course if you didn't get the message this week already Monday get out there Tuesday I guess today is Wednesday The tickets are available. They are going quickly. So if you haven't gotten your event tickets to TMS, Vegas in general, TMS.Vegas is where they are.

Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, click on tickets, and they will be yours. But I can tell you, based on yesterday's volume, they're going to go fast. And we have to cap. We do have a cap-ish, a soft cap. We have a cap. So do what you can, get in there.

Brian, there's also the MS-50 coming up, 150. And you're... It sounds like you're more prepared than ever to me. Oh, I wish it was the MS-50. Yeah, this is the 40th. This is the 40th MS-150 ride, actually. It's an anniversary ride. It'll be my seventh or eighth time doing it,

but I am looking forward to doing it, especially going to the gym lately as I've been doing and kind of building up running stamina and that sort of thing, starting the bike rides as soon as it gets warm outside, but also doing some indoor bike rides, spin bike and crap like that. so it's time for me to start asking for money but not for me for MS chances are you know somebody or know somebody who knows somebody who has MS tadpoolers there's there's folks in the

the tadpool that that I won't say suffer from MS because you know with treatment you can you can manage the symptoms and the the things that come along with MS. but now's a good time to donate and let's let's push you guys have done so well in the past with supporting my rides on the MS-150 and really pushing you up to where I'm I'm regaled and because of that all of you are regaled at these MS-150 events where I get to say yeah it's not me I mean I'm just the conduit but it is all the people in the tadpool who support this thing we are all we are all just a little bit of chode butter for brian all of us you guys are you guys are far more you're the wind beneath my wings is what you are yeah so um anyway uh so if you want to support it uh i have finally figured out that putting the year on my link is a dumb so i've been to use the same link year after year and just update where it points to tiny dot cc slash bike coverville so it's tiny dot c slash bike coverville um is the is the address and we'll see who's going to be the first person to make a donation and thank you if you are the first person but I just got the just built up the link today and got the site going and the sort of thing last year you guys made me number 108 which if you are a lost fan you know is a significant number because it is what you get when you add all of the the numbers from lost it was the number of I think it was the number of passengers that landed survived on the island or something there's some

There were a few things that 101-8 represented, but that's irrelevant. Anyway, tiny.cc slash bike coverville, and let's do it. My aunt, Barb, is going to be riding again with us, and my uncle George, it's a brand new route this year. Oh, different from a previous route. Yeah. Yeah, we used to go Denver to Fort Collins, and then back from Fort Collins to Denver on the second day. Now we've switched to Boulder to Greeley, which is a more east-west route as opposed to a north-south route, which means that during some of those rides, a couple of, you know, parts of those days, I'm going to be riding right into the sun. So, hey, great.

Yep, right into the sun, baby. You just wear some nice shades. You'll be all right. Exactly. I've got, I've got cool bike shades that I wear under my cool helmet. I want to get some time to think about it, but I want to make my helmet look like Spider-Man. Oh, yeah, why not?

No reason not to. So look at it even says it right here. Brian is cycling toward a world free of Microsoft. I'm sorry, MS. MS. We're trying to really get rid of Clippy, finally. First and the foremost. Oh, finally, dude.

Jeez, Louisa. Get rid of that guy. Rainbow Bryant asks, I'm curious, has it only been racing bikes or are there other types of bikes out there like beach cruisers uh desire look i'm going to tell you there there are there is every kind of bike out there there is a guy who rides the entire ride on a penny farthing which if you know those bikes it's the one with the massive front wheel good lord and the really tiny back wheel that you have to use a ladder to climb up on the seat he does the entire ride that way um there

are people who do tandem bikes there are people who do those recliny uh reclining bikes i'm sure I know there's a better term for those, but I can't think of it right now. Kind of like reclining. It's fun. Recliny. You're using a recliny bike. There are people who do,

like I have, I did the first couple of years on recumbent. Thank you, MaxTrobot. Did the first couple of years on a bike that only had eight speeds, and people were, you know, right next to me looking at my bike going, And does that thing only have, it only has a back gearbox? And I'm like, yeah, what do I need?

What more do I need? And now that I've got a bike that has like 23 or 24 speeds or whatever it is, it's like, how did I ever do this on a, on something with fewer speeds? But anyway, looking forward to doing it. And, of course, the whole time I'll be live streaming every time I get to a rest stop. And there'll be all sorts of things between now and then that, to help promote this, and who knows, maybe I'll do some sticker prizes or something. I was thinking about that the other day.

They had a bunch of stickers at this kickoff event last night, and it's like, I could probably do some really funny Brian on a bike stickers kinds of things. So there might be stuff that comes as part of this. Well, watch for it, everybody. Hit up the old sticker genius and get some stickers made up. Sticker genius is good. I like them. They're really good.

Yeah. I got a few I like it. So tiny.cc slash bike coverville and make your donation. Check it out today. All right, you guys. Time to bring Dunaway in and play a little game. Be the fourth caller. Now's your time.

I notice everybody held off until now. That's the rules. Good job. That means you can be considered for pulling in here and playing this here game. You don't have to be the first. but you definitely have to be the fourth. Brian Dunaway joins us from South Carolina as he does each and every Wednesday. Hi, Brian. How are you?

No, hi Scott and Brian. Doing good yourself. Good, good, good, good. Doing great, man. It's good to have you here. Always good to hear your voice. I'm doing better now that I've heard your voice, you know? Aw. Yeah. Shucks. I mean, I'm always giving you shit. I may as well give you a nice little muffin. And then I'll give you shit. How about that? A shit muffin. We both thought the same thing there. Sounds like something I would say when I'm playing a horror game. Anyway, hey, Brian, why don't you explain to us these rules while I pull in?

Oh, you know what? Let's do it now. I got them finally. I'm afraid we weren't going to get him. Looks like we got old WinMegis lined up today. Yay! Yeah. WinMegis, father of the young child who will be sending me Girl Scout cookies, which is very exciting.

What kinds you get? I don't know. Kim ordered him, and I probably will be able to. eat very few of them, but we are happy to support her in her endeavors. I never eat more in two or three myself, sleeves. But, you know, the

Yeah, yeah. I think, I think I'm really into the caramel with the light ones or whatever it is, and was the, with the coconut and all that stuff. Oh, yeah, they change. So there's Samoas, depending on where you live. There's Samoas in one region and there are some other name in another region. Maybe. Some other name, yeah. Maybe Windmagus knows. Do you know what it is, WinMegas?

What they called? Uh, yeah, there are caramel the lights and Samoas. That's right. anyone where you are. Okay, yeah, it's a real weird thing they did, but it has to do with the kitchen that makes, sorry, the bakery that makes batches of them and where they're located. It's a weird whole thing.

There are two different, two different West and East bakeries that do the Girl Scout cookies. Oh, really? Yeah, I went down some rabbit hole the other day and then immediately forgot everything I learned, so it was great. Well, it was good. About a bunch from Nicole, from Ava. Oh, good.

Yeah, I gave her the link and said, please, go to town. Nice. Get on, get them cookies. Well, it's good to have you here when, I guess, we're going to play a game, as you know. You probably know how this works. You've been here before, but we'll let Brian explain the rules and what you could work.

Sure, it's time to play the tadpulli feud. I've served the tadpull on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. When, Magus, your job, I don't know what your other job is, but right now, this one is the important job, because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. If your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes Chicken Invaders 5 and behind the frame the finest scenery. Ooh, I've heard two good things about that, or many good things about that.

I've heard two good things. Only two. That's all you'll get. Yeah, so it should be fun. I don't know anything about either of those games, so I have zero help whatsoever on that. But let's get to it. Guys, put your hands on your buzzers and get ready to buzzin. answer this question. We asked 435 tadpoolers, what's the best way Sean Bean has died in a movie

or TV show? That's got. Satellite on his head from the golden eye, golden eye satellite on the face. Yeah. Sure. Show us, show us Erocebo telescope to the face. Number two answer. One answer will beat it. Brian, what is the? That's Sean Bean death. Oh, geez. We've been watching Game of the Thrones. And I can't, if it's not a good one, though. I mean, it's kind of standard, right? Just get a head cut off.

Yeah. Yes, I'm going to say the head on a pike. All right. Show me beheading. Number one answer, only by three. Three votes out of 435 people submitting answers, separated beheading versus telescope to the face. Well, as we...

As we've learned lately from voting, sometimes people don't vote in their best interest, and they were wrong. That's right. So, Windmagus, you're going to be joining Brian and you guys have control of the board. We're going into it with Scott with two points already, and Brian with one point, Brian and WinMegas with one point. When we're in trouble. Because I have no idea beyond the beheading and the satellite bopping. Listen, saving Hobbits from the... Urex trying to and taking multiple arrows of the chest.

Yeah, that's a great scene. Pincushion, pincush. Yeah, because those arrows are big old like dowel rods. They're like freaking huge. Yeah, yeah. Orc arrows are no joke, man. Those things are thick. No laughing matter.

Yeah. All right. Is that what you're going with? I think, yeah, Megas got it. All right. PIN cushion, yeah. Sure. Show me getting turned into a big old pin cushion by the Uriqai.

Yeah, pin cushioned by arrows. actually Again, up in the 80s Like those top three All clustered together Pretty impressive Yeah, not bad It feels like there's going to be

A real long tail on 10, 9 and 8 though There might be yes Yeah, yeah like ones And all the rest of them Let's see Yeah, it's gonna be Not quite that low There's a

There's a few All right Guys keep rolling You're rolling right now You guys still have control Four points Pretty good And you've got

Six more Or seven more answers on the board. You have another one? What about Scott through a book from the Christian Bell one? Oh, I can

I'll even give you the name. That was, uh, oh shit. What's that called? Scale balance is what that was called. Christian Bell, him is Matrix-like, similar in Matrix vibe.

Equilibrium, that's it. Equilibrium. That we watched that. Correct name. We did. We totally watched that on a film sack. Yeah. All industrial, German looking concrete buildings and good one. And Batman.

Right. Is that what you're going with? Let's do it. All right. Yeah. All right. Show me shot through the book. Executed for his love of poetry. Oh, that's right. He had a love of poetry. I forgot about it. Yes.

Well, that one got ten times less votes than the top three. Ten times less votes. Exactly. Wow. Good points. Yeah, really good points. You guys are killing it. 11 times actually. We get less votes.

Wild. All right. Keep going then. You guys are on a roll. Keep going. Still lots of answers on the board. Man, I can think of so many times he's died, but I'm like,

it's always something, so that's seem like some stupid. Is you like getting stabbed or? I have my favorite of all these is probably not even going to be on your list. Go ahead. No, I just have a really good one I'm holding. But I'll bet it's not right. I'll bet it's not.

Right. No, I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. Forget it. No way. Okay. So I don't know, and I'm just going to ask, was Sean Bean in Saving Private Ryan? I've never actually seen the movie. No. I don't think so. Getting shot would probably be a really good, safe bet, right? Yeah. But people always forget that Ted Danson and Vin Diesel were in that movie, weirdly. But anyway. Yeah. I won't give you just a generic getting shot. Come on. Because there were, there were eight movies, no, let's see here. 10 movies where he got, oh, no, nine movies where he just plain got shot. Yeah. Wow, really. Yeah. I forgot he was in Patriot games.

And Max Trove us. That's a good way to deal with an anchor. Oh, yeah, the anchor. Oh, was a deal with an anchor? I don't remember that at all. I do. That was awesome. He was with the Irish Republican Army.

He was like still doing terrorists. And at some point, he took an anchor to the face. And that was the end of that. That's a good one. Fantastic. I don't remember that at all. Yeah, that's got to be on there, right? Sure.

All right. Going with that? All right. Stuck on an anchor link. Show me Patriot games. Yeah, impaled on an anchor on a motorboat, and then the motorboat blew up. I mean, motorboated on out of there. Right, exactly.

Oh, no, no, no, he's definitely dead now. Oh, he's dead. He's dead. That was answer number five, bringing your total up to 17 to Scots 2. I'm going to say when I guess you kill. Does there even, because Scott even get back here? Yeah, there's still room. I think.

Let's see. Yeah, I could still, if I got 10, 9. Yeah, oh, yeah, totally. If you got 10 and 9, you're already ahead. Yeah. But I don't, I'm not feeling very confident, but yes, I could. There's not mathematically eliminated yet. No.

There's a chance, but the probabilities are low. Right. Which is good because we like giving away prizes. We'll see how it goes. I remember him falling off a cliff. Right. I'm just imagining, Jesus. Wow.

If you can tell me more about that one. Right. Then we can choose, then we can give that. Because they love showing his face. It's you, oh, yeah. No one dies better than him. Actually, there are probably a lot of actors who die more. We just, for whatever reason.

There apparently is. Yeah, there's one of the things when I was researching people's answers, because they wrote their answers in a hundred different ways. I had to find a video proof of each one. One of the videos was Sean Bean, not the most most deaths on screen. It's this person. I can't

remember who it was, but it was. Yeah. But just less flambloins. It's certainly the more creative deaths, exactly. Yeah, that's why people remember it all the time. Exactly. All right, Dunaway and Windy Magus. Windy Magus. Windy Magis.

Windy Magis. man i am i am blanking hard i liked him in the island i thought he did it oh was the island yeah how he died and i don't remember how he dies because i remember it was like right at the end when he gets on you know angry fall off a cliff on island brian you'll count them if they just had the movie right they don't have to have the method

yeah if they just tell me the movie i'll i'll give it to him okay yeah that time he died in the island then is that fair to you scott That feels fair, yeah, because I think you do, I feel like you'd do the same for me. So, yeah, I think it's okay. I would do the same for you. All right, okay. Show me how he died. Did you know this one, Scott?

Was this year one you were holding that? No, I don't. I'm actually not sure about this one, but I think it's okay. Okay, show me the island. Yeah, he was shot in the neck with a grappling hook and then hung. Oh, that is gnarly, dude. We're talking about the island, the, the Michael Bay Island, right? Yeah, the Michael Bay Island, yeah.

Wow, dude. Yeah, that's wild Yeah, definitely creative The wind Make us right now That's all I'm doing 24 to 2 Still

Still Scott could win If he If he gets even three Of the remaining four When Sean Bean actually dies It better be damn creative That's all I'm saying I know

I think in his later years He better like Take up skydiving Parkour free free climbing on El Capitan all that's Yeah like he should just study the

Final Destination movies and then just pick a thing Just find one of those weird ones And go that way Right exactly All right chuckleheads All right Got four answers left on the board

How did he die in He was a national treasure right I'm not misremembering He didn't die in national treasure He didn't die a national treasure No he lived Surely he died No, he left. He definitely lived.

Interesting. But Braimbo Bright and Mr. Grissom in the chat, a drone imported from Black Death. Damn it. That's the one I was holding on, too. He gets pulled apart by four horses. Shit. Yeah. Ooh, four horses. That's a good one.

Yeah, it's gnarly, too. That movie's great. It came out in 2010. It's good. I did watch that video today, yeah, the clip of him dying. It's a good movie. I recommend it. With Eddie Red Main, right?

Yeah, early Red Main, right before Game of Thrones for Sean B in 2010, I think, was the year. Wow. Great movie. Love it. All right. Is that what you guys are going with? I think we should. All right. Show me drawn and quartered by horses.

Number six, Black Death. Yeah. It's a great scene. Haven't seen the movie, but I watch that scene. And it's gnarly. It is gnarly. It's also pretty dark. The whole thing's about the bubonic plague and sweeping over England and it's pretty depressing. So out of all the ways people died,

he took the bad way he took the worst possible way 23 plus yeah so right now you are mathematically limited which means when Magus has officially won but we can see if you get any of the rest of these

go for it boy I am out I mean I am like way out but there was a cliff it was a cliff dive though we did we did kind of confirm that maybe that's a possibility I can't think of where you might have done that did he die? Okay, when did

Sean Bean death by cow? Yeah, they keep saying this in the chat, death by cow. What's that from? So he's getting killed by horses. If that's your, I mean, do you want to guess that? Get death by cow. That would be enough to give me a guess. Yeah, do it. Let's see what that is. I'm very curious.

All right. Show me death by cow. Sure enough, this is what you're thinking of, by the way, who's chased off a cliff by a stampeding herd of cows. That's what it is. I always get back. That scene can with the flies got you where I want you. Oh, this is that in my head.

This is that Jim Sheridan thing, early Jim Sheridan movie. This is one of the ones I haven't seen in his. I've heard this is great. I watched the clip of this, and it's also great. It's fantastic, the cliff. I watched the cliff of it. John Hurd.

Watch the Cliff note version. John Hurt, Richard Harris, Sean Bean. Dude. Yeah. I think I remember that from a full sack list, actually. I think I remember that super cut of Sean Bean death videos I watched the whole time we discussed this. Tenses are, that's probably when you would have seen it.

Right. I got to watch that shit. Brian, didn't you do a trivia thing during one of the nerdtaculars of the movies of Sean Bean hasn't died in? I totally did. Yes. Yeah, that was fun. I remember that.

Good memory. Yeah, one of the Fright Pants All-Stars video rounds was Sean Bean deaths. Yeah. Good times. It was. I've speaking of which, do I have that still? I don't have it handy. Never mind.

What's that? I always keep this clip around where I say 310 to Yuma and. the place that erupts in screaming because I got it right and I don't know because it was during the taboo, the blindfolded taboo game. Yeah, and that's I cannot tell, I cannot explain to you guys the feeling of that because you're blind

to everything, you're completely blinded and everyone's dead quiet in there and it's this room full of people and snowbirds like a thousand people in there and I'm just quiet and then I answer the question and I do it like a question I go 310 to Yuma

like placing explodes because we're losing and now that maybe put us back in contention I can't remember what happened. It was a redemption moment or a rally or whatever it was but it was like you had the whole crowd in that ballroom

like waiting on your on your guess and it was the right one. It was the bad, yeah, it was so good. I got to find it. I don't know where it is but it's, I don't know how I lost it. I think it may got lost in that hard drive thing but we'll figure it up. Anyway. Oh, sure. Sure. Two more answers left on the board

but we have won. haven't tried um died of natural causes did you ever do that sure guess guess that maybe his character in the martian he just died slowly yeah yeah he dies much later he dies oh i forgot he's in the martian you didn't oh did he died no nobody really died he got fired from NASA according that's right he felt like he died

there you go died of old age and the Martian there you go fired from NASA that's amazing All right, say, dude, let's try that one. What do you think? That's it? I have no idea. I got nothing else. Yeah, let's do that. Natural causes.

Show me natural causes. Just keep things moving. All right, that's funny to me. I don't have anything either, so I'm going to say, well, I got a lot of exes to get through here, so I'll be quick. Yeah. He was swallowed whole by a refrigerator. I have no idea. Good guess.

All right. She'll be swallowed hole by a refrigerator. All right. Back to a private wind megacus. I'm going to say die from a wicked ingrown toenail infection. Oh, yeah, I like it. It's such a great guy. I like it.

All right. That was the Game of Thrones. That's what was going to happen to him in the alternate timeline. Infected? Ingrown toenail. Okay, I just want to clarify. Show me infected ingrown toenail. Cinnamon, cinnamon up his butt.

Cinnamon stick up his butt. No, we would. We were warned by Dr. Tolbert about that one. Show me cinnamon stick up the butt. It will help you sleep. How about buried alive? How about buried alive? Okay.

Say that from all the people who can Google. All right, fine. Buried alive. If you knew this one and put in chat, that's great. If you guys Google these things and put them in chat, where's the fun? Yeah, you're taking the wind out of our sales. Go ahead. Show me buried alive.

Yeah. He was buried alive and don't say a word, which just really prolongs the agony and gets you another guess. Damn, dude. The thing is how we've, you know, finished this anyway, none of us have any idea. Let's just go with, he was arrested, even though it doesn't kill him. Because I could see the tadpole just being like, well, no, he was arrested, but he didn't die. Sure, what, international treasure? All right, okay.

Show me arrested. Oh, that's our turn. Is it our turn? Yeah, I got you, got you, got you. I got you. Yeah. No, no. You guys got the extra thing.

You got an extra thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Let me, uh, show me national treasure. Yeah. Died in prison, question mark. National treasure. That is great.

Oh, that's true. He did just go to prison in that. That's true. He did go to prison at the very end, yeah. One, one can assume. One answer. One answer left on the board. It's a fair.

Now, now I want to, now I kind of want to not just throw it away. I want, now I kind of want to get it. Sure. Sure. Um, I don't know. I don't either I see Drown

People have been putting That answers in Lorna Dume Ambassador Doma says Yeah drowned Yeah drowned Drown And they'll say drown

Yeah All right Show me drowned Drown like the witch he is Mm-hmm Throat slashed Says the chat Sure

All right Throw me Oh shit Can I say Buried alive Or did we already do that Okay we didn't say that that was our bonus that don't say a word

Oh shit Never mind I forgot we had a bonus You could totally say it It's not on the list So I didn't think Let's do So let's go back to throat slash

Someone in the chat said that What is that? All right Show me throat slashed Yeah That's all right Like you said Once we got down to these last four

7, 8, 9 and 10 Very very difficult Number nine Frozen to death In a movie called Far North I don't know what that is Kind of rounding these out A lot of people were saying

Where was it? Let's see. Shot in the hand and bayoneted. Not a lot of people. Shot in the hand and bayoneted in a movie called War Requiem. Oh, yeah. And then we got some really bizarre ones. He smoked a poison cigarette in the most recent season, possibly the last season of Snowpiercer as the main guy in the TV show.

Oh, yeah. I heard he was good in that. Of course he died. And then we get people just getting movies wrong that he wasn't. in The Abyss, Dark Night, Death Race 2, I don't know about that one.

Is he Death Race 2? We watched that one, didn't we? I don't think we saw 2. We saw Death Race 2,000, so we've got a lot of movies to watch between that and Death Race 2,000. 1,998 of them by my count.

Beano overdose, I only know Mr. Bean, pencil trick and Hitman 2. Yeah, he is a character in Hitman 2, and I think that just means there's A thousand ways he could die in that, right? Ronan, Silent Hill, and Snoo-Snew. Snoo-Snew.

That's great. That would have been an amazing episode if both him and who played Mod. B. Arthur. B. Arthur is on that episode. She's the computer in that thing. And it would be great if Sean Beam was in that same episode. That'd be amazing. That's hilarious.

Wow. Well, well, all done, guys. Uh, yeah, good job. And congratulations. Win Vegas. Wow. Boy, oh, boy. The, uh, you guys definitely had some, had some good help from the chat room, which is always welcomed and always appreciated. So yeah, works great. Congratulations. You're going to love those games, too, I think. You're going to really enjoy them. So either use them or give them to a friend. Yes, go ahead. A couple, a little while ago, you guys, uh, one of the ones that I won was ground mountain adventure. And it's just like a little skiing snowboarding thing. I actually ended up installing it and putting in a bunch of hours on it because it's just a fun. little like low stressful you know i want something to relax so i'm going to go do this weird oh nice it's a very cool game i have that one as well it's very good uh great on steam deck by the way plays like a dream on there uh excellent well you're gonna have a blast and um i can't wait for your cookies that's really what i'm waiting for stoke we pick them up Saturday yeah baby

we'll tell your daughter thanks again and well done on the game today take it easy Brian Dunaway, how do you feel about your strong showing today? How do you feel? I feel like when he drugged me across the finish line. It was nice. Yeah. It was nice. He like drawn and quartered you right across that finish line.

Right, right. Yep, yep, yep. All I had was toe infection. That's right. This weekend, you and I are getting together on Friday, 130 Mountain Time at frogpants. combe to do an episode of Play Retro where we talk about SpaceQuest. And it's huge. It's a big deal.

And it turns out some of those same space. Quest guys have a new game coming out this year we're gonna talk about that too they're trying to anyway they had a kick starter back in 2014 and they've been trying to get out ever since then but apparently last fall they got it uh they've changed the the engine the game engine and they're promising quarter one in 2025 we will see until then we're gonna do uh space quest one through three the text parser years yeah oh boy got your hint books you're gonna need them though not as fun to control as you remember everybody. But still,

an important series. We'll talk all about it. That's Friday. 1.30 Mountain Time. Play retro wherever you get your podcast. Brian kiss my butt. Kiss Brian's butt. Kiss all our butts. Kiss all of our butts. All of the butts. All of the butts. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. Tom Merritt will join us. You get a little

tech to talk. And after that, recommendals with the entire crew. They're all going to be here today. So that's exciting. Between now and then a song, Brian. What do you got? Sure. We'll get to this one quick. A brand new EP. from 22-year-old songwriter Marley Gavara, who goes under the name Mazz, M-A-Z.

Based in the small town of Logan, Utah. She's been building a lot of momentum around a collection of singles out there, pulling equally from pop like Blondie and Daft Punk to iconic left-field artists like broadcast stereo lab and gorillas, which means if you like any of those things, you'll probably going to like this. This is her song Kiss Kiss Kiss Boom from her upcoming EP called NPC. This is Mazz.

I don't call it, I don't call it, I don't call it conquest. You call out the shot, just to call me a fraud, I don't even digest. Don't digest, don't digest. Kiss, kiss, boom. Kiss, kiss, boom. I haven't even told her. Why do you even tell that? I didn't even tell the lies that you told her.

Kiss, kiss, kiss, boom. Kiss, kiss, kiss, boom. Kiss, kiss. Boom. I've been open and I've been praying. I've been thinking my car. How can I protect that? Everything I trust is like I was going by.

And how can I respect that? Well contact is harder than kiss, kiss, kiss, boom. Kiss, kiss, kiss, boom. I'm in your room In your room That pool Kiss kiss kiss

Boom Kiss kiss kiss boom Kiss kiss Boom I'm imprisoned by the facts It's a little bit Oh When we're kissing it just feels

I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, magnetized by your touch. I'm consumed, I'm consumed by the way you grow, love. Kiss, kiss, kiss, boom. Kiss, kiss, kiss, boom. Kiss, kiss, boom. Tis, kiss. Body expanded, filling the universe. Pores open, hair long.

I don't know what it is. I just like dudes. And we've returned. Tell me who that was again, so I might seek out their music more fully. Yes. That from Logie. Utah, that is 22-year-old singer-songwriter Maz, M-A-Z, and a brand new song, Kiss, Kiss, Boom, look for her new EPNPC, E-P-N-P-C coming out at the beginning of April.

That's pretty cool. Logan's not a big town. It's a little tiny college town, Utah State University is up there, which has a great art program, but other than that, they're kind of not known for much, agriculture stuff, that sort of thing. So hearing a young upstart musical talent coming out of there is very cool. It's awesome, yeah, and it's a great song, too. So hopefully she gets some more momentum from all this.

I hope so, too. All right, we're going to bring Tom Merritt in here. We're going to do some tech talk. And it starts with this. Isn't technology wonderful? It sure can be. And how do we know that? Well, we bring Tom Merritt in and we try to talk about that.

Tom Merritt, everybody, he is the host of the Daily Tech News show, among many other awesome things. Tom, welcome back to the show. Oh, you're muted. We don't hear you. Muted. I wanted to say thank. Oh. Oh, you still can.

You can. I read your lips. I said, thank you, Brian. And then it was weirdly muted, Brian. Yeah, weird. What happened there? Oh, interesting. Why does that only happen with my gratitude?

Yeah, I just went in and faked it like you were muted and, you know. Conspirus, sir. Although I read your lips and it looked like you said, thank you, Brian, but with a why. So that's weird. I think that's weird. Yeah. I was thanking Brian Cap, one of my old. junior high buddies oh okay perfect excellent all right prime prime cap's a great name hey tom merritt's good to have

you here sir we're going to talk a little bit of tech here for uh for wednesday the 26th and uh as we do that it's nice because we get to look forward to being on the daily tech news show live today too and uh i have honestly no idea what you've been digging up so what do you got amazon had its big uh new voice assistant announcement today oh my it's called al exa Plus. Oh, boy. Now, they don't normally put the big pause. Yeah.

They don't normally put the big pause in between, but I'm trying to be nice to people who have one of these devices. The plus version is powered by multiple large language models. It will be $19.99 a month unless you're an Amazon Prime subscriber, in which case you get access for free. It will start rolling out in March in waves. Amazon is saying, if you've got an Echo Show 8, 10, 15, or 21, you'll get it first.

So that's a way to goose sales. Like, you want to jump to the front of the line, go buy one of those if you don't want to have one already. But eventually they say almost all devices will get it. So I'm guessing the first generation will definitely not get it. But maybe even the second generation will get it. Most devices will get it. And it is impressive in its demonstration. If you've ever used Chad GPT voice mode, it's pretty much the same.

kind of idea where you can just talk normally, you can interrupt yourself, you can interrupt it, you only have to say the wake word once and you can keep talking until your session is over. And it can do a lot more things than the current voice assistant can do. It can, you know, text the babysitter was one demo they had. Or, you know, create a shopping list and then order the groceries. You can even have them ordered from Uber Eats, not just from Amazon Fresh. you know, do things like put things on calendars and routines and all of that. So, again, a much more capable model because it's using multiple LLMs. They mentioned their own NOVA model.

Amazon has a large language model called Nova, but they also mentioned Anthropic, which Amazon owns a stake in. And they said they were using other models. One clue to that is they're using the Bedrock platform, which is an AWS thing from Amazon, that organizations can use to experiment with models. So theoretically, any model that's available on Bedrock would be available through this. And they say they will choose which model is best. So you don't have to ask, you know, like you do with Siri, sometimes you have to say like, yeah, go ahead and use chat GPT. With Amazon, they're just doing it all behind the scenes.

Do they any talk about improvements to like home stuff like, you know, the way you're controlling all your sprinklers and your internet of things? Yeah, yeah, they definitely touched on that. it can make its own routines so you can just describe a routine and say like you know I want my sprinklers to go on at five and then the lights to flash so I know it's working and it won't question you it'll be like great yeah okay I make a routine for that if that's what you really want sure also can do some interesting things one of the one of the big problems I have because I use the echo to listen to music a lot is I will I will say a song and it will play the wrong song or it gets the band wrong you know if bands have similar names, that's not going to be a problem anymore. They demonstrated Panos Panis, the head of Amazon devices, just kind of saying,

what was that song from the movie with Bradley Cooper? It was a duet. It's like, oh, you want the Lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper, here you go. And it started playing it. So it's going to be more capable on that kind of stuff.

You can even say, like, if you have Prime Video, you can say, can you jump to the scene where the explosions happen and the people walk away? and then it'll try to find that. That's pretty cool.

Do you know if any of these features will come to, like, I don't know, tablet apps or any of that sort of stuff? Because that's usually where we're watching that sort of thing. It's going to come to anything that uses Al-XA. So Fire TV, there's going to be a new app for Plus. There's going to be a website at al-E-X-A.com that's coming in soon. And that's for more. long-form things you can you can do some of the notebook lm kind of stuff with this like they demonstrated

you upload your study guide from school and then ask it to quiz you uh and and that way you can kind of study from your study guide material stuff like that can you then ask it to cheat for you after you've asked it to study for you you know i mean you can ask i i don't know if it'll do it for you it's like you know it's like your best friend in school like what's in it for them yeah what exactly how you're going to pay them off uh well that's interesting i have a i have a series of these uh echo we'll call them. ECHI. Yeah, ECHI.

And they're fine. They do what I needed them to do, but they're all being used in a very basic way. Like you said, kind of music, basic music stuff, and then I use some for turning on and off certain lights and some automated stuff.

That going deeper and smarter is exciting. Is this anywhere, where is this in compared to what, say, Google is doing with home, or do we even know how those features are going to work? There's some Gemini stuff in Google Assistant now. that is similar to this. So until we actually see it in action,

I would hesitate to say for sure, but they are showing off more than I have seen Google show off for Google Assistant. So this is definitely putting them in the game with Google Assistant. ChatGPT has been ahead of both of them in its ability to do voice mode, at least in my opinion,

but you could only do it in chat GPT apps, right? So this is a benefit for Amazon because it's got more of a footprint. But yes, it will definitely start have you saying, well, is Amazon and its voice assistant better or just chat GPT better? And I think the advantage Amazon has

is more people have an Amazon device, right? So not just Amazon Echoes, but also fire TVs, you know, and just the app on your iPhone or Android phone. So there's a bigger surface area for people to use And that means that, yes, Google should be the one that can get into this. When Google I.O. happens in a couple of months, expect Google to react to this and say, well, Google Assistant can do all of this and more because it can't. Yeah, sure.

I mean, having the physical devices already in a lot of places, I think, is a big advantage for either company. Yeah. As opposed to, you know, there's no GPT echoes laying around or whatever. Not even that. There's also no GPT TVs yet. Amazon has ring doorbells and ring cameras. Don't forget about the ring cameras. One of the cool demonstrations they gave, which I thought was a little weird. It was impressive technologically, but I have a systematic problem with it.

They said, can you look at the ring doorbell footage from the past day and let me know if anyone let the dog out? And I'm like, and it could, you know, it could be, oh yeah, they let the dog out at, you know, this time. Like, that's great. You would know anyway. right yeah yeah well the old dog would have done something or let you know exactly yes can you show me a video of the dog pooping on the carpet please yeah please can you zoom and enhance that'd be great um something i notice send the room but to clean that up please right right here's a logistics thing that i don't think they've addressed at all based on the

quick perusal of the announcement and then what you've said it just is interesting to me because they've had to have thought of this when this rolls out and becomes available to other devices other than the ones they're front lining here, how are you actually going to know? Are they going to announce it to you? Are they going to say, like, let's assume you just don't read the news, you don't check your tech news. Are you just going to walk through the house one day and it'll suddenly pipe up and go, I'm way smarter now. Go ahead and, you know what I mean? Like, how do I, that's interesting. So if, I'm reasoning this out off the top of my head right now. If you have it on like your phone, you're going to have to download a new app. It sounds like

they're going to have a new app for that. Right. So I'm guessing in the old app, it will start messaging. Like, hey, have you tried the much more capable plus version of me? Download it, you know, tap here. So that would be one way. I imagine the echoes will just get it, right? No.

But if you're not a prime subscriber, they're going to have to tell you, like, hey, if you subscribe to prime, I'll be better. instead of saying I can't answer that you could pay $20 a month and become a prime subscriber and then you get it so yeah I imagine they

they think a lot of people will just be prime subscribers have the echo and get it and then start spreading the word about it but that's an interesting question how you tell the other folks in those edge cases I guess that answers my other question

about whether they keep the legacy it sounds like the legacy service will continue you for some time, right? Like, it's not going to just go away. Yeah, because if you don't have prime, but you own an echo, you won't get this part of the service, right? You'll just be, you'll just be un-old Alexa Jr. Yeah.

Minus. Something like that. Or maybe a lax. Oh, I like it. A laxia. Yeah, like a laxative. Like it lacks the ability to answer that question. Oh, sorry.

Nothing like a lax. Well, anyway, it's interesting. I'm glad they finally got around to announcing it. I have ordered 10 laxatives from Amazon. You know, if you're subscribe and save for laxatives has been scheduled. It does feel a little bit like Amazon is in need of a services slash devices win right now. So maybe this is it. You know, we'll see how it goes. They were supposed to do this last year, if you recall, and then they had a little shake-up where they brought Panos Panai over from Microsoft to take over the devices division. And I think they did the right thing. I think they made sure they had a product that worked, at least worked well enough for this demo, before they launched it. They are doing it in waves, which implies that they don't want to just unleash this on everyone and have it fail. They, you know, they want to test as they go.

So I am looking forward to all the breathless articles published in March about the horrible things that Plus did and the awful failures because it will screw up, right? But, you know what, I feel fairly positive about the demos they gave. Well, I'm not. Because I know that LLMs can do this. And if they're using multiples, as long as they're good at picking the right one, it should be able to do all the stuff they showed. Yeah. I mean, I'm super curious about it. um we all three of us have some sort of echo in the house so you know we'll give it a shot i don't

have anything super new though so i am definitely not in the front of this line it'll be a while for me i think yeah yeah i have the 15 uh in the kitchen so that that would be the only of the first wave of devices i have uh that i wonder if it's a count based so that you have a 15 but you also have maybe a dot and an older show or whatever scattered around the house i wonder if you'll get a more complete service coverage on the other devices because of your account status. Like, well, I get it. If I get it on one, I should get it on all. It won't be like, sorry, you only get it on the new device. I, or they could. I'd be interested if they do that. That would be kind of. Because it'd be weird. You'll be in the kitchen going, hey, tell me all these things. And it'll go. Playing clearance, clear water, revival. You're like, oh, Wayne, I'm sorry. You're not the one in the kitchen. I'll go in the other room. Yeah. Seems dumb. I already have it occasionally where the one in the living room hears me, even though I'm in the kitchen instead. So. I have one that speaks up for no reason. I have one that just starts barking.

It says stuff. No, no prompt, no sounds, no nothing. It'll just suddenly go, eh, toilet paper, something, ding-dong, woo-hoo! And then there's out. Is that the original? It's an old one, yeah. It's like the old tall one.

Okay, grandpa. Which I still, I really like that old design. I know, you know, just the style of it. Like, I know it's less capable of it. That's the one I have here in the studio with me is the original. Because it doesn't work for a lot of things. But, you know, if I just want to play music or ask it the weather, it's fine. Well, we'll talk more about this and more other things in the tech world.

I'm going to take a stab at why, you know, everybody thought Game Pass would be called the Netflix of video games by now. And it isn't. Well, why isn't it? We're going to talk about that, among many other subjects today on Daily Tech News Show live, 2 p.m. Mountain Time, if you want to watch live. Tom, anything else going on you'd like to mention? Yeah. Now that we've got DTNS briefing, which is also the DTNS substack, I have really started leaning more into my personal opinions in Freitom Newsletter. So if, for example, last week I wrote a column all about reply all and just how hard it is to do the right thing when everyone's replying all. And you just want to tell them to stop. But you know that's you also replying to all if you do that. Yeah. And I've encouraging people to ask me questions where you're like, I know you won't talk about this on your other shows, Tom. But what do you think about this? So send an email in reply to the email newsletter at freetomnewsletter.com. And I'll answer some of those questions.

Like are dinosaurs, are elephants kind of a dinosaur? Like those kind of questions? Exactly. Okay. I'll dive deep. Awesome. I'm looking forward to this. That'll be great. Tom Merritt, everybody. You'll know him as Ace Detect on all the socials. Tom, have a fantastic afternoon, and I'll see it too. Thanks, y'all. Bye now.

Thanks, Tom. All righty. Well, we did that. Yeah. You know what we do now. We talk movies. We do. We are running.

More streaming things. Sure, sure. And since we're running, you know, a little on the late side, we're going to get right into it today. Cool. Let's see here. Do we ever everyone's clips? Keep your descriptions brief. Brief.

Brevity is the other part of valor or whatever it is. Well, what do you recommend? Time to talk recommendals, things we've seen on streaming services that we think you at home might appreciate. Randy Jordan joining us first. Hi, Randy. How are you? Hello, Randy. You're not. Oh, hello.

No, not at all. They're Pachyderms or, do I have that right? I'm sorry, two-word answers only going forward. And they're in the same phylum, like their chordates. Yeah, it's what they have in common. Like, the closest they can get. Yeah, just for the record, that was not. I tried core dates, and John never replied back to it. Yeah, you know what?

It's turned into a real circus, that app. No, I was I going to say. Oh, I do not want to lead people along thinking, I think that they're dinosaurs. I don't. I was just trying to think of a dumb question somebody might send Tom, and that seemed like a good one. Anyway, hey, they're still the largest living. in land animal. I thought I was, so this is good news. Hey, it's good to have you here. It's actually your mom. Oh, thank you very much. I'm going to let her know. Hey, Nicole Spagg,

what are you doing? Hey, I'm messing with chat GPT to write my kids' teachers. Oh, nice. My words don't work very well right now. You should send them a message that says, hey, are my kids using Chat GPT to cheat on their assignments. You know what? I don't care if they use Chat-Chim-T. I'm like, dude, this is, to me, feels like the thing where the teacher said, you're not going to have a calculator in your back pocket. And I'm like, yes, I do.

Yeah. Yes, I do. And now they, well, and yeah, now they encourage it, right? You're in class. Yeah, yeah, right, right. I remember the last year of high school, they started to loosen up on that for me. They were like, yeah, bring your calculators to calculus. Literally, it's in the name.

So my thoughts on chat, GPT and school, I think it, of course, anything can be abused, but especially for the kids that have brains like mine that need a little push, like brainstorming, thinking of ideas, like sometimes I have a hard time with that. And once I kind of, and that's why I do so well in groups, like I can like feed off of other people. I'm like, oh, yeah. And then I'll have an idea. And then it's like it becomes this really cool collaboration. So I look at it as more as a collaboration tool.

And also when I'm writing a really defensive email, I tend to throw it through chat, chat, TBD to make me sound less like a bitch. Can you please decarron this paragraph, please? Yes, can you please make this sound more professional? Right. That's great, actually. It helps. I'm like, oh, my God, that sounds so much better. And it gets my point across because, you know, that's what we're trying to do.

Some people are just naturally good at speaking and writing. And I am not one of those people and I never have been. Sure. And I've always, always hate it. It's why it took me so long to just talk on a podcast. Because I, you know me, I say weird stuff. And that's just, you know, my brain, hey, I think I've had epilepsy for, since I was a kid, it turns out. So it would make sense that I would have some processing delays and issues.

but I still feel like I have a lot to say and I have a lot of ideas and I don't know, a chat GPT kind of just helps me get those ideas out in a clearer manner. Sure. Yeah, no. I get that. Like if you say to a kid, hey, you can write your whole paper or the paper will write itself, that's one thing. But if you're writing a thing and then having to help you.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know you're not. I'm saying if a kid is having trouble coming up with an idea for a paper, hey give me five ideas on the Civil War and then they go and they research and they write exactly yeah yeah just use a good LLM one that doesn't come back with it was about state rights then you're on the wrong LLM get the hell out of it right so I am row chat GPT in the classroom PGPT you might say you put a P in there for pro PGPT yeah that cost you at 19 a month All right. Well, excellent.

The program has been rated PGPT. There you go. Written by a robot. Hey, Brian, let's start with you today. We're going to talk about your clip first. Do you have any setup for this before I hit play? This is a series that I love the sort. Well, I don't know the original original source material, but I've loved the adaptations.

And this newest one is brilliant and so well acted and perfectly cast that really, really dug it. All right here. So, Ceres. Let's give it a shot. Foreign secretary was a personal friend of the Fess family. He's very shocked, as are we all. What do you need from us? We are not making any assumptions about the nationality of the sniper.

So we are reaching out to all our international partners for assistance. There's been a lot of speculation about the shot. Do you have a confirmed distance? Yes, indeed. From the apartment block where the shot was taken to the hospital door, the Fest was hit, this. 3,815 meters. Are you sure about that?

Because the world record for a confirmed kill with a sniper rifle is 3,540 meters. Ukraine, 2023. Did you retrieve the weapon? No. Right, so the sniper took it with him.

This is the suspect leaving the apartment building 2 minutes and 52 seconds after the shot was fired. Sorry, where's the rifle? He broke it down and puts it in the bag, obviously. The bag is less than 6,000. centimeters tall, which means the rifle is bespoke. The barrel came in two parts.

Barrel in two parts is the gunmaker's holy grail. If the rifling were out, the tiniest fraction, it would compromise the shot. It's impossible. It's a little insane how close this subject matter is to the one I picked this week. And for a hot second there, I went, did he? Really? Oh, funny. It threw me for a minute. But anyway, tell us what you got here, because it's obviously. Yeah, this is the most recent adaptation of the Day of the Jackal, the Frederick Forsyth novel that

also gave us the Bruce Willis movie Jackal, or The Jackal. But this is, man, this is such a great adaptation. And very difficult to pull a lot of Eddie Redmayne clips because he plays the Jackal, but a lot of his work

is silent. And so it doesn't really, you know, doesn't allow for a lot of great audio content to show. That said, he does have conversations, and this was just a much better kind of setup. Some of the people you're hearing in that clip, by the way, Lashana Lynch, who you know as Monica, I'm sorry, not Monica, Maria Rambo, Monica Rambo's mom in Captain Marvel and the Marvels and all that.

Nice. She is even Captain Marvel in one of the mold. Versus of Madness. You also heard in that clip, Chuck Woody Iwoji, who played the high evolutionary in Guardians of the Galaxy 3, and he was also in Peacemaker as Clemson. John Wick as well. I remember him and John Wick, too. John Wick, yeah.

It's great. Love that guy. Incredible, man, such a great set of actors in this. Charles Dance is in this. But your star of the show, oh, and Ursula Corp. Barbaro, who I think of all the people that I know, Randy, I think, is the only other person who watched Money Heist. Oh, yeah. Incredible series on, well, it's now on Netflix, but multi-season great.

I think it was always Netflix. Netflix, original, wasn't it? I think so. Oh, was it Netflix original? Yeah. Still there, too, looks like. Cool. Well, go watch it because it's brilliant.

She was Tokyo in that thing. and she plays the Jackal's wife, Mrs. Jackal. Mrs. Jackal? Mrs. Jackal. Kind of bottom line, the Jackal is an incredible hitman for hire and maybe the best sniper shot on the planet, making those record breaking 3,500 meter kill shots. I couldn't think of anything else.

Once they said that in your clip, I'm like, well, my brain is now focused on that one little fact. Yes, as it should be, because that's important, very important to this. 2.2 miles? That, like, I know that, I know it's been done. Like, I heard about this Canadian sniper who killed someone from 2.2 miles away. Like, how, like, what? The physics just sounds crazy of that.

Yeah. It's, you know, it, it, the show makes it believable that somebody like this who is so good at what they do and kind of blending into their surroundings. You don't think of any at Redmayne as being an every man looking dude who can kind of blend into his surroundings. But the Jackal is able to do that really, really

well. Just, you know, my own personal thing, every disguise kind of looks like Eddie Redmayne. But that's just me. That's just me saying that. And, you know, he's got such a cool, he's very sinister when he's quiet and focused like this. Like this non non-voicing. I mean, I think he's

a great actor and just about everything he's in, but this is, this, this intrigues me just from that angle alone, like how stoic he looks like, that's cool. He, it's so good. And he got nominated for Best Actor for this for the Golden Globes, as well as this got nominated for Best Television Series drama, which absolutely deserves. This thing is so intense. And, um, and again, it's one of those that does an interesting job of making you at times. times root for the villain in addition to kind of rooting for the hero. And it's a really weird. It takes a lot of brilliant writing to make you root for somebody as ruthless as the

jackal in this thing. But at times they do. You said Lishana Lynch is in this? What's that role? She plays the MI6 officer that or agent that is sent to investigate. the jackal and chases after him so she's the cat if he's the if he's the mouse jackal then she's the cat sure the mouse jackal i like that i loved her in uh captain marvel so much she's so amazing as um monica rambo's mom yeah for sure um she's great uh like it's a really like the whole

the whole cast really well cast and acted in this thing it's no surprise why this thing got nominated and I think come any time we'll probably see this thing get um get nominated as well um peacock original looks like peacock original yep exactly so peacock you'll find it right over there it's i think 10 episodes each one's about an hour long and um this was one that teen and i couldn't we we stayed up late at times because we didn't want to stop in the middle of an episode we're like no let's finish this episode we got to know what happens um it's really weird they for some reason they show like you said 10 episodes season one and then i n db has season two episode one with no plot does that mean there's a second season

that means it's been confirmed for a second season oh okay cool we'll go on then that's great so it doesn't end in a way that you know it ends in a satisfying way okay cliffhanging though like there is some cliffhangery business there's it does yes it does leave some stuff. It's like, okay, this part kind of got resolved, but this other part did not get resolved. And it, I don't, I don't feel, I don't feel disappointed in the ending at all. Like, I feel like the, the, the ending is very satisfying. And it does make me eager to, um, uh, for the re, for the second season when it finally comes out. But there wasn't like a message at the end. It's like, James Bond will return Tuesday of the Jackal.

Right, no, the second day of the jackal. Yeah. No, it's, uh, yeah. No, it'd be months of the month of the jackal and then, no, 28 days of the jackal. Totally. Right. The day later. The day later.

Yeah. The day after tomorrow of the jackal. I love it. It's, it's really, really good. And, uh, this is one of those that you'll know from the first episode of this is for you. Watch the first episode. Jeez. Watch the first 15.

minutes of the first episode. And if you are hooked, then you'll enjoy the whole thing. If you're not, then this is probably not for you. It's reviewed really well. People really like it. So it seems like you're not alone. All right. Excellent. Check that one out. The Day of the Jackal available on Peacock. Brian will have it up on quicktmist.l. Along with what's next. Nicole, let's talk about yours. What do you got here? Oh, well, you know, I don't, I don't know what I tell you, but part of my, I don't, so look, part of my condition. with the epilepsy and all that stuff is my memory is a little, a little wonky. And so I do, so because I have autoimmune escephalitis, I do this thing called IVIG, which we've

talked, I think I've talked to you about, right? Yeah, you talked about it last week. Okay. Yep, yep. So, um, I, when you have a chronic illness, you become a little desperate and in our time of Instagram and, you know, people just put in their, like, like I'm saying, you know, I'm telling you about my story. But what if I'm not telling you the truth?

Yeah. You don't know. You could be a sniper. I could just be totally, you know, making it all up. I'm not, but. There's no way to know for sure on social media. But that's what I'm telling you. social media shows you what that person wants you to see we've been seeing this these stories come out for

quite a few years you know you have the ruby frankie story which holy hell you know oh god it there's going to be a day where we're going to get stories about Ryan on the Brian toys. Ryan Seacrest and all his No, not Ryan Sechrest, the little boy that does toy review. Oh, the toy reviewer, right. Okay. Oh, that kid. Yeah, yeah. We're going to get scandal revelations about him.

I'm telling you, there's a crap load of scandals that's going to come from YouTube. So anyway, I digress. This is a story about a woman that says she has brain cancer and the ride she takes everyone on and the people that actually take her down. And I watched the, so it's an Australian

influencer, an Australian wellness influencer. So when you are sick, you're desperate to find alternatives to get well than usually what the doctors want to tell you. Because the stuff is hard. I mean, like, I did the IVIG on Monday, and I'm still a little, I'm off. Like, I had headaches all day yesterday. I felt like crap. I just felt like I got hit by a bus.

I got stuck five different times because I kept my blood. blood veins kept busting. So, like, crap like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not fun. It's not fun. And so when you're in those situations,

you tend to look online for a little inspiration. And this be decided to take advantage of sick people. And unfortunately, she probably killed a lot of people, too. Yeah, it's based on a real story, right? this is a real. It's a real story. I watch the, so there is a 60 Minutes Australia. I encourage you to go watch that because it is a masterclass in watching an interviewer peel away the lies. And I'm just, I was just so impressed with the journalist that interviewed this, this girl. Her name is Bell. They also say, And this is a Netflix show. It's a series. So I think I'm on like episode four.

And it's kind of, it's taking probably some liberties into, like, her back history and why she is the way she is. And it's just, it's very interesting. And I wanted to bring it up because it's so, it's funny because I'm sitting, I watched it during my IVIG with my nurse. And it was just a. weird kind of experience to watch a show like this while I'm going through such an intense treatment that people with chemo, immunotherapy is a treatment for cancer as well. And it's helped a lot of people. But there's a lot of snake oil people out there that are promising you a lot of things and it's and it's when you're desperate and you're hurting it's really hard to sort

through all of that so this this show you can play the clip all right here we go I've been watching this train wreck of an interview all day it's a former client and I started watching it because she's someone who's easy to hate I mean she deserves to be hated Bell, are you prepared to tell the truth today? Yeah. The whole truth? Absolutely. No half-truths, no gobbledygook.

No, I've been really transparent. Put it on to distract myself. Because I woke up this morning feeling pretty sick. My skin hurts, and my blood is scratchy, and I know I need to live in that. I know. I'm watching this interview instead. Bell, you claimed in your book you underwent chemotherapy and radiation for two months. True or false?

At the time. True or false? True. Oh man. Caitlin Deaver, though. I love her. She's so good. I don't.

I've been hesitant to watch this because I love her acting so much that I'm worried about hating this character too much or it's going to just bring me down and piss me off, you know what I mean? So I've been avoiding this show. So tell me I'm wrong or am I right? Like, where are we at? Gee, I'm impressed with her.

So what I know her from was that Tim Allen's sitcom. Oh, I never knew she was on that. I saw her on just. First time I saw her was justified. I've seen her. What was that one? Last Man Standing.

Yeah, she was on that. for a bit, that's true. It was the daughter of Tim Allen in the sitcom Last Man Standing. Yeah, I never saw her in that. Her dramatic roles is mostly where you see her, though, right? Yeah, it was the one with Tony Colette where she was the assault victim that Tony Colette was fighting for. I'm, I'm alone or not alone. That's also on Netflix deal. That is such a good little.

There was that Hulu show where she was the mother. And she just left her baby in a back of a car. I don't remember that one. I saw the horror movie or the alien movie. It was called a monster or something like that. There's an alien movie where she hides in a house from an alien for like an hour and a half. Oh, yeah. And it's mostly, like it's mostly dialogue free, right?

Yeah. It's pretty good. I didn't do a recommend on it. She's amazing. And she does a really great Australia. Well, I don't know. I'm from Australia. It sounds like an Australian accent to me.

Yeah. So I haven't said everybody in the chat knows. It's called Apple Cider Vinegar. And basically the character that you heard in the interview, her name is Bell Gibson. And they break the fourth wall throughout this to remind you as the viewer, Bell has not been compensated for anything around this story. Like they're like, hey. Because they know people would have a big problem with it if she was.

Yeah, I get that. her story and stuff like that. So the what she tends to do is she's just a what's a chronic liar called.

Chronic liar. Like they just can't stop. Yeah. Like a habitual habitual liar, right? Habitual. Lyre. Is that what they said? No, there's a word. Pathological. Pathological. Thank you, Randy.

Sure. So she is. a pathological liar. She believes her own lies. And she wraps it all up in, she starts seeing this one girl, I believe her name is Willa, and she's going through real cancer. And she goes to this resort in Mexico, the Hershawg-something Institute, where basically they... they look to food to try to heal cancer and like coffee enemas and you're like what the hell but it it actually does work for her and so what bell does is that she kind of clings on to her story and i think they work together because it sound like through the 60 minute interview like they were they knew each other and bell took her story and then built an app and like it all kind of blows up and like you know she has two million followers she's influencing cancer patients to not

sorry my earbud fell out to not get chemotherapy to you know so and the way this all comes to the head comes to a head is one of the one of the employees or the he's maybe does he's he's involved in 60 minutes Australia his wife is going through chemotherapy and his wife is obsessed with Bell and is trying to do that and but she's stage

three breast cancer and it's it's just intense and it's it pisses me off to see this happening in front of us it's happening right now like there are people out there and there's a woman on on instagram called uh hannah alonzo um and she i love her i love her so much because she has no Fs to give in calling out influencers for lying and then she brings the receipts and she shows them lying and it's not I mean, it's a lot of MLM lying. It's a lot of, like, just fake, fakeness, the fakeness that happens online. And I don't know where we go from here.

I don't know how we fix this other than just questioning who we're following. And even then, it's almost impossible to know if they're lying. so that's why people like Hannah are important, you know, so that's, yeah, it's, it's intense. Netflix, eh? Check it out. It is Netflix. How many episodes? I had a lot to say about it because it's very like. Personal.

It's very personal for me because I'm just like, I mean, I'm not going through cancer, but I'm going through a really, really awful autoimmune condition that is still being, kind of figured out. But it, I have to imagine somebody listening, you know, maybe that person you're following, question them. Yeah. Well, and right now we are experiencing culturally the rise of anti-vaccination conspiracy theory. And it's, it's really scary to see because, I mean, that was, in my opinion, that was Bell Gibson's big crime, was that she claimed that she got her cancer from a vaccine. Oh, did she? I didn't see that.

And like, oh my God. She had like all kinds of other things. Like it wasn't just cancer. And then she had this. She had another type of like she, she, it was ridiculous once 60 minutes started to digging into her old forum post. Because guess what? That stuff doesn't go away a lot of the times it's there.

so I agree with you Randy it's just well there you go six episodes available now all right so go watch it if you I don't know if I still can it still sounds like it'll piss me off I think you should watch it I do I do I might I'm not under any illusions that this stuff doesn't happen I'm fully aware of it

the question is do I want to subject myself I don't need to be reminded that it happens or maybe just watch the 60 minute interview yeah I could do that I'd be more I'd be more interested in a full-on documentary. If that was a thing, I think I would watch that. I think I don't want to follow on it. The 60-minute interview, it literally is 60 minutes about this whole thing.

And you get to see the players and even a breast cancer survivor who almost lost her life because she was following Bell. And I'm wondering if that's the 60-minute guy that actually got the story pulled in because his wife was. Because eventually they were just kind of brushing them off the women that were trying to expose Bell. So, yeah. Scott, did you ever watch the Elizabeth Holmes documentary? I did. I did watch those. Yeah.

This is very, very similar. Yeah. Like it's, I bet there's a very similar vibe to that. And that's another one where I don't want to see, I don't want to see a dramatization of it. I will only, those Elizabeth home documentaries, the one I saw anyway, was informing. And it's, I got all the info I needed. and it was, like, grounded. I don't need a drama for it, I think.

I'll send you the 60 minute interview. Yeah, I'm sure I could find it pretty easy. Yeah. All right, well, there you go. Let's move down the road to Randy Deluxe. He's got a deluxe pick this week. Randy, what have we got here? And it was definitely lightning the mood, I think.

I appreciate it. It's Oscar season. You know, we're all running around saying, If you only watch three movies before Sunday, if you only watch one movie before Sunday, this is like that only it's for the people who won't watch any. If you won't watch any movies before Sunday, watch this one because you're going to love it.

And then when the Oscars come out and you didn't watch the Oscars, but you see the results, this one will have won the Oscar that it's nominated for. And it's, you know, it's nice. Interesting. I think we got a little peek at Ram's, Randy's pick for the Sunday deal there. There we go.

All right. I may have reversed it with the cat ones. But anyway, here we go. Let's play it. Oops, there it is. Phase one of task is completed. Now we're going to have to do all this over tomorrow. All these kids do.

It's big. I understand. What's that? My power core. It is damaged. Without it, I rely on my solar surfaces and batteries. Yeah, you should work on that. I also need a replacement transmitter.

Do I have to do everything? When we run across another robot, we'll kill it and take its transmitter. Negative. Rosam inhibition protocols prevent deliberate harm to others. Look, you need to learn how things work on this island. Me, the bear, everybody. We're all just trying to survive. And kindness is not a survival skill.

you think it's going to take it do you i i do um there's another uh there's another nominee that's you know see you flow yeah there's another nominee for uh best animated feature that has a a good shot but um you just heard the voices of lupita nongo and pedro pascal in the wild robot it is absolutely fantastic 10 out of 10 animated film from 2024 and you can watch it on peacock i don't want to spoil anything because it's got it's got twists and turns it's a movie about uh nature versus nurture is what it's about it's about uh what are we meant to do with our time here and it's uh it's just perfect like beginning to end uh you're getting you're getting katherine o'hara in the animated role she was born to play you're getting um you got a little bit of matt berry as uh as a as a

a neurotic character. It's like just all throughout this film. It's just, it's just perfect. So beautiful. It's so wonderful. One of those things where you're like, people are out there like, should I watch Toy Story? Yes, you should freaking watch Toy Story because it's great

and it'll warm your heart. So watch the Wild Robot. I need to. This is a wild robot. It's a book, too. Yeah, based on a book. We watched it because of that. That's cool. This is a perfect example. example of why for the film sack Oscar pickum thing we've got you can pick two items because

it's going to be this one or flow it's going to be wild robot or flow so this is a good one to kind of hedge your bets and you know devote more points to the one that you think is really going to take it versus the one that might take it and it's it's such a toss up for me because this was so so good and heartwarming and uplifting my my uh my uh daughter loved it. She's been begging me to see it. I've been putting it off for no reason. So I think I'll take Randy's advice and watch it before Sunday. Did she read any of the books? Because there's three books. There's four, I thought. I've only seen the three pack. I just soon. Let's see. Wild Robot

2016. Wild Robot escapes 2018. Wild Robot protects 2023. And then there's a new one this year. Maybe it's just not out yet. But there's a not out yet. Called Wild Robot on the island coming out this year. This had my kids captured. We put it. on and don't watch it without me like they had to go do something and don't watch it without me don't watch it without me so yeah they loved it i wonder if oh june is when that comes out um i wonder if they will keep going then because i got a whole series they could do here you know with all the books up to four of them anyway we shall see we were just uh we were just talking on film sack this past weekend about uh dream works basically like we were talking about what what in the world is the special saw

that undergirds the rise of Shrek series and TV shows and so on and a big part of it for me and by the way if you look at the highest grossing films for DreamWorks the three Shrek movies are on top the number four is how to train your dragon yeah and and the special sauce for me is music yeah this movie the wild robot has a tremendous score it is so for freaking good. It's by Chris Bowers. This is the person who scored Green Book and King Richard recently and it just like it is it reminds me of how to train your dragon

in that the score is so good that you're going to want to isolate it and have it to listen to. Are you excited for the live version of how you train? Not at all. Not even a little bit. I know. Yeah. I'm curious about it. I'm not like I'm curious about it too. But man it feels

This one feels like, I mean, not that they've all been great. There have been a couple. Little Mermaid I thought was really good. And the kind of jungle book thing that they did, sort of live action, but CGIed up. This one, for whatever reason, feels too soon. So live action for me, if you're going to base it on a beloved animated film, I want that film to be mostly people. and how to train your dragon is about dragons

and that's a thing where the live action is gonna break down for me if you were saying we're making a live action frozen you're like okay all right it's mostly people

I mean there's like an anthropomorphic snowman in there but like it's mostly good here and so I'm I imagine that you can work it out in my favor

freaking dragons they don't exist they don't actually exist and so I'm going to be constantly judgey as I'm watching it you know yeah I'm curious about it but I'm not I'm not holding my breath or anything

I think those first couple of movies are awesome I love those so I still think they're my favorite so maybe the little robot or the lost what is it sorry wild the wild robot will take its place as my favorite dream works film who knows there you go all right and by the way

Chris Bowers is also nominated at the Oscars for best original score I just don't think this one's going to win it is that good though it is It deserves a nomination. All right, because that, man, that is one thing I'll say for the DreamWork stuff, they get killer freaking composers to do their soundtracks. I guess they do on Pixar side too as well and Sony, everybody.

But some of them out of them really stand out. All right, here is mine. This is our final one today. I watched a thing on Apple TV Plus that I am both recommending and not recommending, depending on who you are. All right. A movie came out and here's the clip. Do you like the rabbit's pie?

No. I fucking loved the rabbit player. Um, that is, uh, the gorge. And that stars, you heard very briefly the voices of Anya Taylor Joy and Miles Taylor, or Teller, uh, dude from, uh, uh, uh, uh, Goose's son from Maverick. A bunch of other stuff. Good looking dude. I like Miles Taylor. Uh, if I'm honest. I think my favorite might have been, oh, I forgot who's in that. He was Reed Richards in that bad, fantastic four, 2015 one. I forgot all about that. Oh, right. Yeah, well, that's worth forgetting. Yeah, it really is. Isn't it? Have you? Have you? Have you seen him in Whiplash where he also plays drums? I still have not seen Whiplash. I know that's a shame. Right after the Queen's Gambit where Anya Taylor Joy also plays chess.

Yeah, I have not seen the Queen's Gambit either. However, I really like both these actors and most of the things I've seen them in. And in this case, the Gorge is interesting because it's a science fiction movie, but it's also a love story. And it's also a military complex, let's take down the powers the B story. So it's trying to do these three things. and here's why I recommend it to some and not to others. I think that the chemistry between them and the love story part is pretty good. The short of it is, and I don't want to give too much away here,

but he's a former Marine, and the reason the stuff Brian was saying earlier was so familiar from the Jackal is that both of these two characters, she's from formerly the Soviet Union. He is from here, and they're both master snipers, and they both claim to have the record for the long. It's really funny of the parallels. Yeah. Yeah, it's right on the money with these with this whole that whole story point. But, um, but anyway, the gist of it is, uh, they are stationed on this gorge on

one side of the other, east side and the west side of the gorge. That's a little bit of a metaphor for post war, you know, World War II, East Germany, West Germany, all that stuff. Um, but it's, you know, it's set in modern time. And it's these, these old facilities, they remember you to fall out a little bit. They're just old. They were established right after World War II. And down at the bottom of the gorge, you hear constant wailing and horrible sounds. And some people think it's a gateway to hell and they're there to guard it. This is where the science fiction part sort of comes in. And it's not really obvious right away what all that means. But eventually you find out what's down there. I won't, I won't spoil that. But here's why I think I recommend it and don't at the

same time. They want to do these three different story arcs that I'm talking about. And they do them decently, but as a big three-part gushed-together idea, it kind of loses its way in some some ways. And it may, your mileage may vary. But it's like, well, this concept of what's down on that gourd should be the main focus of everything. But it kind of isn't. And they spend a lot of money on a thing that isn't really the focus. Like, there's a lot of special effects and stuff going on down there and action and stuff. But up on top, before all that happens, this love story is 100% the focus. And if you came for the science fiction, you're going to be disappointed there's so much love story in this um but that kind of worked for me i like them they have great

chemistry these are actors i'd like to watch um this is a very easy to recommend for like a family to watch as long as everyone's like maybe 10 or older that one f bomb i bleeped out is the only f bomb this movie's pg 13 um the violence isn't all that violent and it's not gory or any of that uh so it's kind of terribly gory tina watched it on monday that that last half is more more jump scary probably than violent yeah it's creepy but i wouldn't call it like yeah there's some things in there that this is like the best video game that i did not have the controls to play oh my gosh this is such a great way of saying it that's exactly that is a terrifically long cut scene to introduce you to the game and then the second one movie is is the video game

yeah you know what you're not wrong that's a i'm really glad you brought that up i didn't even think you compare it it is a video game ass story yeah and and and i'm not saying that is a Not necessarily negative. It's just some popcorn bullshit going on. And it's fun and I had a good time with it overall. But there are moments where I just kind of went, oh, really? We're just going to walk right over that and act like it's no big deal or you two or are you super humans or are you normal people. Like there's a lot of stuff like that. I thought that some of the concepts at the core of the science fiction part of the story are really interesting, like really fun to explore and twists and turns. You don't really know what's going on down there. And then they blow it again by skipping over stuff too fast and getting straight to a car chase, the equivalent of a car chase when you're trying to get out of a thing. Right. It's an odd film.

God, the special effects, the special effects for some of the things you see in this are incredible, like really cool character creation. Some are amazing. And then some are jank. it's like it's a weird mix of those things yeah um one thing i really liked was some people may not like this part but when they're communicating across the gorge they don't have radios they don't have phones and none of that stuff they're doing it with writing on signs and holding up their answers and some people are going to be annoyed by that because it goes on for a very long time i really liked it it really

established things made the characters more interesting it's a great meet you yeah and she's over there she's super into like the romones and she's playing this music really loud in the gorge and great music taste. Yeah, her songs are awesome. All of them were good. Miles Taylor's a little more boring, but that's the point. But I do like during that montage,

I mentioned this a minute ago, but I love how they both reference earlier projects of there's her playing chess for Queens Gambit, him playing drums for whiplash. It was just such a crack up to see almost like a planned insertion of, how about some chess? How about some drums? Yeah, that was pretty funny.

that they even thought to do it, to be honest. And I like, she does this accent. She's clearly like Eastern Bloc kind of accent. I forgot Tunisia. I can't remember. I can't remember what the former Soviet Union country is, but it wasn't straight Russia. It was something else.

Anyway, her and her father, who you meet briefly at the beginning of the thing, I just like that whole vibe, this post-Cold War kind of business. They're not really meant to be opposed to each other. This is a joint effort, but they don't know what dark, stuff, Sigourney. Oh, I forgot to mention

Sigourney Weaver's in charge. She is dark and cool, but also a little silly toward the end. So it's just this mixed. It's the definition for me of a mixed bag that I would recommend this mixed bag. Sure. Right? If you're going to walk out with a bag, here's a bag, and it's got mixed stuff in it. And it's fine. It's all right. Make some popcorn, settle in,

put your expectations, you know, or realism out the door a little bit. Yeah. And have a good time. Yeah, don't walk away thinking any Oscars are being offered up for this. And if you want more of Anya Taylor Joy doing that accent, don't forget she was Ilyana Rasputin in The New Mutants. That's right. You had me at Miles Teller. I watched all three divergent movies because of him. I like him a lot.

I'm not entirely because of him, but like I was willing to watch. I'm a big fan too. There is something, he has a presence on screen that is a bunch of crazy combinations that my wife. would just say, well, you guys just really good looking. I'm like, no, there's something else going on here. It's a subtlety to his personality that it comes across in his performances and in this one, he does that. You know, he's great in this. And she's, and I love her and she's great in this. And Sigourney Weaver. And Sigourney Weaver, freaking badass, coolest chick in Hollywood ever. Like, she's amazing. And then, and she brings up that gravitas to this, but also a silly,

goofy thing, just like these other two do. Nobody's taking this seriously, except Apple wants you to sign up to see it that's really the main it's tim cook who wants your money okay tim apple tim apple so go check it out it's on apple tv plus it's an original and is not in theaters it's straight there um and you're and like i said your mileage may vary or your miles teller maybe uh see what i did there all right that's going to do it for us all of these things are up on quicktms dot l i so you can access them and find them for yourselves if you got your own ideas about stuff you'd like us to talk about let us know through all our ways of communicating with us.

It's been fantastic talking to you both. Nicole, have a fantastic week. Yeah, you can find me on Blue Sky now. Oh, good. Nicole Spag on Blue Sky, right? Yep. Make sure she gets added to the packs, the automatic follow packs.

Oh, yeah. Do you have the Frog Pants Starter Packs? Have you been showing those? I actually, I found Dr. Tolbert, and then I just went through who he was following, and that's how I found a lot of people. Yeah, you're probably following most. DIY follow pack.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, do it yourself. Right. The good doctor will not lead you astray. Have a great week. Randy, it's great having you here as well. Anything you'd like to say or promote or talk about? FilmSack this weekend.

Yeah, it's just one of our favorite weeks on film set up. You're going to get a bonus episode for me and Brian later today. That's, please sign up for the Patreon, man. Patreon.com. We're having a lot of fun with the Oscars this year. I forgot. Randy and Brian fight about the Oscar. coming up today on film sack patreon let's not oversell that what's our movie this weekend i don't

remember we're watching clash of the titans the newer one the the the the speaking of the yeah speaking of sigourney weaver the what's his name from the avatar deal what's his name can they give his name who's our main actor we're the same worthington yep that's the one annual avatar worthington i remember it being kind of shit but i'm excited to go back and see so we'll find out me too. And it's completely different than all the Oscar talk. Oh, yeah. We're pretty far away from. No, it's like whatever the opposite is of the Oscar talk.

We won't have a hard time keeping Oscar talk separate from Clash of the Titans talk. No, it'll be fine. But get your half butts and your boobies out. That's what we're doing this weekend. We'll see you soon. All right. Half butts. Half butts.

Have you ever have a half butt? You should never have a half butt. You should never have a half butt. All right. Look at this, y'all. It's time for us to get the F out. However, before we do, a reminder that I'll be on DT&S later today. Brian, you had an episode of what went up yesterday. Something new. Soundography. Soundography. Yeah. All about Love and Rockets. So go check that out. Nice. Love and Rockets, baby. For whatever reason you say Love and Rockets, and I immediately am put into a Sam Goody

at the row where it's alphabetically Love and Rockets. I'm at the L's. Yeah. I can just see it. That album cover, that black album cover for Express with the Rocket and the heart on it, the logo. And then, of course, there's the whole comic book connection to there as well.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Anyway, check that out. And, of course, tomorrow we'll be back. We'll be here. all that stuff so come join us uh that'll do it for us frogpans.com for everything if you want to communicate with us send us some of those great sounding voicemails the new uh link to use is uh voice cast dot app slash tms uh but you'll find that at the site don't get too confused with all these URLs all that stuff will be there okay you go to one you get it all that's how we do it so easy all right let's get out

Brian, what's a song to take us out? Sure. Norbert wrote in from Romania and said, hey, Brian and Scott, I'm turning 38, and I'm really starting to notice time speeding up. It's becoming really weird. So, before it completely runs out, I'd love to hear any 8-bit pink Floyd cover that you can find. And Scott, speaking of time flying by, it's been 15 years to the month since the last episode of ELR. People might say it's impossible to get the gang back together after all this time, which is exactly why I'm challenging you to. make a reunion episode we all know you can't resist proving people wrong when they say you can't do something smiley face things for keeping me company through the years signed norbert

from romania norbert is right and it wouldn't be that hard two two thirds of it two thirds of it's a piece of cake we heard two thirds of it today yeah i just got i just got to i just got to get all the obsidian see if he'd be down for like a thing he probably would be off kind of thing i'm sure he would yeah yeah it's not as hard as it sounds it's just one of those things where it's like everybody's busy. Everybody's got their stuff. But, you know, we may. So Norbert, I'm not saying no, but I ain't saying no.

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