The Morning Stream - TMS 2790: Elk Not Wanted

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Batman Nipple Guy. The Dick Van Dyke of Accents. Fubby McGubby. Soakin' in Science. Boat Scrote. No Hands, No Lungs and No Lt. Yar. Toast your Digital Buns. IQ might be his lowest extremity. Cool Teeth. I have relatives in Estes Park. Good guess: itâs wrong but itâs a good guess. The Paul Hogan of British Accents. Cockney, but not 'Enry 'Iggins Cockney. Pre'y Moun'ains. Magic Naps with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Fubby McGubby. Soaking in science. Boat's croat. No hands, no lungs, and no lieutenant y'ar. Toast your digital buns. Q might be his lowest extremity. Cool teeth. I have relatives in Estes Park. Good guess. It's wrong, but it's a good guess.

The Paul Hogan of British accents. Cockney, but not Henry Iggins, Cockney. Pretty Mountains. Magic Naps with Wendy and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. We hope you've learned a lot about what makes your cat purr and why your cat behaves in certain ways. So for all the crew here at Cat Entertainment, so long until next time. She slept with her neck and a crane, the window was open, and she got. the Versaiders.

The morning stream. This car smells weird. Hello everybody. Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Thursday, March 6th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian, that's six the That's six day.

Hey, what's going on, man? How's your Thursday, you know? It's good. It's good. Yeah. I had a good Wednesday night. Watched the first episode, but not both episodes of Dary Devil, born again. I was curious about that.

I like it. I like it a lot. But, man, it goes places pretty damn quick. And I was not prepared for how quickly it would go the place. places it goes. I'm hearing it's a little dark. Would you see? Would you agree? It's a little dark. Yeah. It's, it's, it's surprising. Like, for, for what the Netflix series was, sure. I was actually really surprised how dark the first episode went. Yeah. I feel like, hmm, man, I'm not even sure. I'm not sure they would have ramped right into this on the Netflix show, but. Disney's like, no man, we're going all the way in. We're going in. Yeah. There's no, uh, no red filter either like there was on the Netflix. Remember how each of the four Defender series had a little bit of a color filter.

Derek Devil had red and Jessica Jones had purple. Yellow for green. Yeah. Yellow or green. Whatever was. Oh, yellow for Luke Cage. Yeah. That's right.

So did, I guess Punisher was just kind of a dark hue of darkness. Lavender. Lavender. A little purple lavender. A little periwinkle. So, but okay. So the question, the other question I had is, and I'm, seen it yet is this intro the same like dripping waxy looking thing or is it

no no they have a new intro and uh and i really like i like how the the intro worked its way into episode one or the episode worked its way into the intro the the pre intro uh worked its way so i don't know what they're going to do if it'll just go right into the the main part of the intro for episode two but um it'll make more sense. It'll make a little more sense when you watch it. Well, there you have it. Oh, yeah. Did you watch? You watched Echo, right? Or did you? I did not see Echo. No. Connections to Echo throughout this thing or what?

For sure. For sure. Because Kingpin is the big bad in Echo. And the things that happen in Echo and even references things that happen in Echo in the first part of Daredevil. And Echo was, you know, Echo was pretty good. Some of the chats to the reviews are meh. No, they're not. 83% Rotten Tomatoes, 90% audience. So I think that's pretty strong. Yeah.

For a TV show, that's real good. That's really strong, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm interested in this one a lot. I like the old, the old show. You know, I'll, I'm going to try hard this time to like what's his beak. Charlie Cox. No, Fubby, Fubby McGubby, whatever his name is.

Fugby McGukey Nelson? Yes, that's it. Fubby McGuby. I didn't like, here's the thing. I don't even, I don't actually like Foggy Nelson in the, the comics even, there's something, I don't feel the need for like a bit of a wacky sidekick and not wacky in the traditional sense, but he's just kind of there to go, oh, and I, and it didn't, and that actor's fine. It's not him. It's a me. It's a me thing. I don't like Foggy Nelson. So

maybe this time it'll blow my mind and I'm going to be open-minded to his, to his portrayal and try to be a little less cynical about him. Yeah, okay. Because I like that actor. I like him a lot. I know he's really good, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm, again, not having seen episode two. I feel like they're going to be kind of leaning away from the sidekick characters and more focusing on Matt and Wilson. Yeah, I'd heard they don't even show up in the first, or do they?

They show up in the first episode? I don't know if that's a spoiler. You see them in the first episode. Okay, so maybe they're around just not as crucial to the story. Won't say any more than that. All right. Well, it's exciting. Do you think, okay, Mr. Marvel, let me ask you this question, Mr. Marvel, man.

Do you think a Defender series is possible after all this? Or do you think this is just like, let's see how Daredevil does and it's reincarnated Disney Plus form and then we'll decide from there. I think that, yeah, I think that they're going to see how this does. They won't, I don't think they just jump right into a Defender series. I feel like if they're going to do another character from the kind of the Marvel Knights, group. I think they work in Kristen Ritter and Jennifer, or Jessica Jones. I'd be down with that.

Yeah, because she, that was, that was so great and freaking dark and, geez Louise. Yeah, that was great. Do you think there's some talk she's the new serial killer and a sequel to the, to the Dexter series that they're now working on? Yeah, yeah.

Well, she's been added to the cast. So it's really interesting watching this stuff coming out. So I did not realize that Dexter First Blood or whatever it was just called. Original sin, right? Original sin? Original sin, thank you. The one I recommended about a week ago or two weeks ago. Sure.

Didn't realize that was a one and done like, yep, prequel, no plans for a second season of that. Everything that I saw yesterday said that it was a limited series. But now it's like, okay, now we're getting a true Dexter continuation. And yeah, I saw that Kristen Ritter is being added, but I didn't know, didn't know what her role was going to be. But Kristen Ritter as a serial killer, I love it. It said the headline was Kristen Ritter, now the big serial killer nemesis in the next Dexter, whatever, which was a surprise to me. Not that they picked her, she'd be perfect for this, but that we're going to have like a post-dexter series, not a another season. Like he said, like that surprised me.

I didn't expect that. There's a, but it's interesting because there's a, there was the whole season with, um, with Handmaid's Tale, blonde wife woman who has all the letters in the Scrabble, uh, Oh, from, uh, she was in. From Chuck. Chuck and, uh, other stuff. Whatever it is. Mass.

Mass. Mass Effect two and three. She was in as well. Yes. Anyway, she was a serial killer in, um, in, wasn't she or she just, she just helped him kill. in the season where the two of them fell in love. I can't remember. Was that her?

That was her, wasn't it? I forgot it was her. Yeah, it was definitely her. Estrowski, Estrowski. Yvonne. Yvonne. Svon, Skrappaskasky. Swarovsky.

Gutschibow. That's it. I love her, though. I have a crush on her. Oh, yeah. She's lovely. Bring it. She has teeth.

She has cool teeth. Cool teeth. Yeah. Wait, but Phil, I feel like we can't just run over that. Yeah, let me show you what I'm saying. She may have changed them now. She may have changed her teeth. Yeah.

She may have had them done, I mean, like, you know. Oh, got to corrected. Like she had, she had like the fangs a little bit. Yeah, or I think it was actually, she had two front teeth that most of us with two big front teeth would like hate that. But she looked, here it is. She looked great with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, there's something about it. Look at those cool teeth. Yeah, she's awesome. But I think she may have had them tweaked. I can't remember what the deal was. Oh, yeah, there it is.

She had them. No, those are still there. Oh, okay, good. Hold on. I like the large, I don't know why, but the looks good on. Yeah, she wears it well. I don't know why she does, but she does. Best thing about Chuck, she was awesome.

Worst thing about Chuck is that other guy. He's kind of a butthole. Zachary Levi? Yeah, he's a poo-poo. Yeah. It's too bad because, you know, he had one of the better DC universe shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. The Shazam stuff was pretty, pretty good until it wasn't.

Until it wasn't. Yeah, I don't think it's going to continue as far as DCU plans. You know, the James Gunn stuff, no, I don't think so. Yeah, that's unfortunate. Hey, here's a thing. Somebody wrote in. Oh, quick thanks, by the way. So last night, I was having some issues with the phone thing.

It was getting, like, some popping. Oh, yeah, the poppy noises. I heard the clicking noises and some calls, yeah. Yeah, remember those? I thought those were just the people. it's not it was something with the conversion and this site's new so they're you know bound to be some bugs to get over and uh turns out it was a bug so we were trying to narrow it down me and the dude who runs it and i had a bunch of you in the discord send in some fake calls

in fact we should probably check that and see if there's anything worth playing i saw people's comments in the discord about that some short dumb ones to see some of these embarrassing uh you know like there says me calling the thing because god asked me to there's got to be something in here. So I'll bring it up in a sec. But the, anyway, I just wanted to say, I appreciate everybody doing that because we think we've solved it now as a result. Okay. So because of your

fine efforts over there, we got it fixed, although it won't load from you right now, so that seems. Oh, no, there it is. It did load. Okay, so let's see. Oh, my gosh. 82 new messages. That's not. That's just in one night. Jeez. Okay. I'm trying to run

it. It's really slow for some reason. All right. Well, I'll deal with that in a second. Hey, so we got this message on there And it was about the accent of the British guy That I really liked his accent yesterday That was great Yeah Guy with the blunt thing

Cockney according to Claire and Zoe Yeah, which I don't know They'd be experts They would be They're not the exaggerated cockney That we, you know The Henry Igan's kind of cockney

Yeah, the Paul Hogan of British accents Right, exactly That's what we do with Australia with Paul Hogan Totally Anyway, here's what he says. Like that accent, check out this guy. Evan says, hey, scrote and boat. Your boat and my scrote is touching you because I'm sitting in your boat.

How do you feel about my... You're sitting in my... You're sitting in my... Your scrote is sitting in my boat. That's fine. My naked scrote on your boat. Ew. Oh, we didn't say naked.

Look where I took it. Look where I took it. Anyway, the scrote and boat is us. On the logic... Topic of Scott's favorite English accent, you should check out the YouTube. tube or Steve Mold. I'd never heard of this guy. He sounds exactly like the guy

and covers all kinds of neat physics concepts using homemade devices like a see-through 2D gas pump that you can see, that you can see how they automatically shut off. Anyway, he's dreamy, love the show though. I'm going to check it out.

I haven't heard him before, but I will definitely do that. I've been showering. I've been soaking in science lately. It's good catharsis for me to get away from the discussions of the day and just sit there and get all physicsy and why does the body do this and how come that planet did that?

Like that's a great place to be and when the British are doing it, even better, man. Even better. Yeah. I want to check this out because that is the thing that I've always been curious about is there like a little floaty thing in there

that goes up and triggers the gas pump to shut off but like how does it know when the liquid has gotten up to the tip of the pump? yeah yeah yeah it's great i mean to me that's super interesting so you're you're ringing our bell here we're going to definitely do this um let's see i was just going to see if i could pull up a sample of this guy uh steve mold it's an unfortunate name but that's fine you'll never forget it's moold like you know like uh the way they spell uh the thing that you make chocolates beautifully shaped chocolates

oh yeah like a mold like a mold yes all right here here's what he sounds like I'm calling the double-decker Newton's cradle. The idea is pretty straightforward. With the normal Newton's cradle, the energy of the first... Okay, he's right. I'm watching that shit. Yeah. Why is it that I love it when I hear a British accent that drops the T sound?

So it says, pretty good. Yet when I hear one of our local newscasters say, well, the traffic is pretty bad up in the mountains. It's like it just grates on my nose. Yeah. Yeah, no, you're not wrong, man. Oh, check it out. Here's some test audio that we got over it last night.

The page loaded, so let's play some of this. Oh, good, okay. Butt nipple. Oh, it's Claire saying butt nipple. Yeah, that's great. Appreciate that, Claire. Who had, boy, that's an easy, that was an easy bet. Yeah, it seems easy.

Here's another one. Let's see what this one says. Test, test, test, test, test. That sounds like Shane. About what I predicted. Oh, is it? It could be Shane. I think that's Shane.

That could be wrong. Shane, you ought to let us know. This is a fun game, like identify the tadpuller from their voice. Yeah. How about this one, Brian? See if you can guess. I don't have any idea. It doesn't say.

So your guess is as good as mine, but here we go. Maybe. Marcel Marceau. It's really long. Is it just blank? Oh, it even says the text addition to it says, don't think my mic worked. Okay. Well, it didn't.

Oh, okay. All right, here's one. Let's try all this. This one transcribed it, but let's see who this. says. Well, hello. Poo-poo-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-P-P-P-P-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K. I don't know who that is. I've no idea.

I don't either. But they were definitely Ling on their side. Yeah, you for sure were. How about this one? Okay, this is a fun one. Let's try this one. Here we go. Nice.

Hey, on my duck. This is a test. I'm not sure how long it's going to be until it's 10 seconds, but I'm going to guess this This is now. All right. We got a little foreign voice there. I like that. And when I say foreign, I just mean not here, everybody.

You know what I mean. Here's someone who just says peace. Let's see what this is. Here, right here. Oh. I take it back. They just sort of laugh. Oh, they're at the bar.

It says below there. They went to a bar. The bar, okay. I was like they're watching something very funny. Yeah. That's a Dice Tomato, it says, on the top of it. Oh, okay. He put his name in.

It's been a while since we've seen him. a live show. Anyway, thanks for that, you guys. Your help was helpful. Very helpful help. And we believe we have solved it and we didn't hear any of the crackle. No, sounded much better. Cool. Good. Excellent work. All right. So there's that. Then there was this, an anonymous person who I think is free hotel room. I'm not kidding. I think it is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Based on the last two words, the last three words of his message, I'd say it's free hotel room. It says this, quote, please tell Brian or please tell Ibit there are zero moose in Estes Park they are a large herd of elk so elk for Christ's sake he says all right so I provided you a link do you see do you see the domain of that link by the way it's our discord or your phone oh right under the message like right in our show notes right under the elk for Christ

sorry I miss that yes I see it visit Estick Park things to do slash wildlife watching let's visit estis park yep all right so i'm in there and let's see what the highlighted text says oh interesting uh let's see hold on i got a weird pop up why am i getting that uh okay i see oh you know the very visit go ahead tell me we're going to tell me they really want you to visit estes park so they're going to pop it up yeah apparently yes so all right now i'm on the page i'm looking at a header it says estes park here i'll pull it up estes park colorado uh uh there's a couple of, what are those, elk? Those are elk.

Okay, so those are elk. Things to do, say, plan on your trip, here we go. Some more elk. Lots of elk. A lot to elk. No argument anonymous, but there are a ton of elk, and I'll issue a little bit of a disclaimer here in a second. Okay, so more elk.

Right there in that highlighted area right above. Right here. Into the wilderness guests may glimpse one of the park's most mysterious animals, the moose. Mm-hmm. Most often seen past Trail Ridge Road's alpine visitor center and the western side of the park. These incredible creatures are occasionally or will occasionally be spotted in the wild basin area near Cub Lake and a Longfall River Road. Well, that sounds like there might be moose there.

Yeah, but I will say that Anonymous is right. The things, when I was visualizing them taking over the golf course, they were definitely elk. and would you like to see a photo that I took? Yes. Of course I would. Let me see this shit. Oh, good. Well, let me give it to you.

Don't give it to you. Brian, go and give it to me. Go and give it to me. Let's see here. Hold on. Oh, I thought I had pulled up. There it is. It's pulled up now.

Let's see if this works. Can I drag right from? Or am I going to get that weird H-E-I-C thing? Let's see if this works. Even if you do, I can make it work. Oh, there we go. I can make that work. Okay.

So here. Oh, look at that. Okay. Those are all the elk. taking over the golf course. Not Moose. Hey, Rocky. Let's up my sleeve.

I have seen Moose up in Rocky Mountain National Park like this article talks about, which is the gateway is Estes Park into Rocky Mountain National. Man, this is like... If you come in the summer, by the way, to Denver, go up to Estes Park. Go check out the Stanley Hotel, the inspiration for the Shining, and then go up into Trampton. Elridge Road, and it's awesome. It's beautiful. If you were like an elk hunter, this is like your wet dream come true.

Yeah, I mean, you could close your eyes and hit an elk right there. Like shooting fish in a barrel there. Exactly. And I think that one, if I, like, there's one there on the right that actually might be. We blow it up. Yeah. Oh, no, never mind. They're turning their head. Okay. I thought, go one more to the left. That one I thought was like going straight up in the air, but he's really just got his hat turned. oh no yeah it looks like I totally can see it dude yeah

for a split so when I had it zoomed out it's like oh there was one making a noise he's going you can see all the other people by the way on the opposite side like also take oh this group out way off in the distance yeah yeah this must so this happens every year they all

they all come down there and they come and just uh just take over the place just shit on everything man just shit in all the place big toilet oh yeah well elk are great dude I don't know who you know I mean, I've had elk jerky.

It's fine. You know, I understand people like to hunt elk and all that. But I don't think I could do it. I can't shoot one of them things. I mean, they, you know, if they're overrunning an area. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I could personally shoot one. Yeah. But I'm okay with hunting when the, when there's overpopulation of elk out here.

It happens pretty pretty, it happens every year. Yeah. So we have the same thing. And there's like a limit depending that year on the, on the population and all of that. but I just couldn't do it. Even as a kid when I went hunting the first time with some friends, I could never pull the trigger on these things. Just couldn't do it.

So I'll let some other psychopath clear out the herd and get the numbers. And then he shares, there's a guy named Kurt that I know that does this. And he shares his elk jerky with me and I'm just fine with that. Yeah, the jerky's great. Oh, so the reason that they have the minimum or whatever, they got a controlled population, is that just because, they don't there's not enough food form out there and okay they they they tend to come into go into areas where they can cause more damage to the ecosystem because there's no food where they quote unquote should be so so if we weren't here though if humans weren't involved wouldn't they just do their I mean they would just this is all nature right yeah yeah exactly we've defined the areas that we don't want them in so yeah so they come into those areas that's uh Yeah, that's, we've created the problem that we are now trying to solve.

Travis makes a decent point. We've killed a lot of their natural predators. Oh, it's true. But who are they? I don't know who's the natural predator up there. Like mountain lions or something? Quite possibly wolves, because we do have a wolf. Man, they're having such problem keeping wolves from being endangered here in Colorado.

And they're bringing in wolves from New Mexico. And they keep showing the videos of the wolves when they release them. They bring these big boxes and they stand way behind the box and they lift it up and the wolf looks around and then just darts out of the box. Yeah. But, yeah, mountain lions. Yeah, we got a lot of mountain lions or cougars and stuff in here. We have a little bit of a wolf problem that probably causes some of the overpopulation of the elk.

I just know every time man starts to dink around and go, all right, we're going to kill some of these wolves. Oh, shit. Well, they helped control the elk poppy. Well, now we've got to kill some elk. Oh, shoot. We put a tree here that it's not supposed to grow in this part of the country. Oh, no, we got these beetles that no one's ever heard of. It's the, right, it's the, what can we do to get rid of these mice?

I don't know, let's bring in snakes. Oh, no, no, now we've got a snake problem. What do we do? Bring in some birds. Bring in giant mice to kill the, and then you eat giant snakes. It just never ends when we start. Bring in Ricky, tiki, tippy, he's got this. He'll take care of it.

There's a reason ecosystems do what they do, but humans are so, we're so cocky. We're just like, yeah, man. We get our crap involved in everybody. We just can't keep our nose out of nature. That's right. Oh, it's funny, Benjin, you bring up these woolly mammoth and mice. They're in the news today if we get to them. Really?

Ooh, can we wait to hear about it? We're playing God with mice. Anyway, hey, we got a correction from our old pal, Travis, also in the chat room today. Yeah. Travis Crawford has this to say. Hey, TV's Travis here. Just wanted to clarify for Scott. KFC did originate in Kentucky, but in Salt Lake City, you did have

the first franchise location of Kentucky's Red Chicken. You know, it's a semantic argument, but hey, it's true. I thought I had said that, but maybe I've made it sound like they were founded here. They weren't, but we were the first, like, out of Kentucky, like, KFC location. You know how, yeah, the way you think of KFC. Somebody opening up their own KFC restaurant. Yeah. And why here?

I don't know. I never looked that deep, but apparently we liked the kernel. We liked his herbs and spices. and his stupid bowler tie. We were into it. Hey, by the way, something I learned today about the first, I found out what actor was the first to coin the phrase Egot to like, you know, figure out you could make a little acronym out of the Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony.

Ooh, can I guess? Can I guess who this is? You can absolutely guess, but I'll tell you this. I could give you 500 guesses and you wouldn't get it. I have a feeling you're right. Can I, okay, let me just do quick narrow down. Is it, are they alive right now? Is that a person who's alive?

They are currently alive. Okay. Yep. So it's recent-ish. Are they? I'll even tell you that they are 75 years old. Okay. And you know them from television.

Television. Not film. And not film. Okay. You know what? Obviously it doesn't narrow it down enough for me to probably get this, but I'm just going to throw out a name. Sure.

Abe Fagoda. Oh, no, he's dead. Finally. He's way, he was way over 75. Hold on. I'll tell you that. Here's another hint for you. Okay.

This person's biggest role came from a 1984 television show where he and another person have the starring roles. Peter Scallari. Oh, that's a really good guess, right? With Tom Hanks, bosom buddies? Yeah. I knew it wouldn't be Tom Hanks because he's too big and everything else, but Scallari never really made it out. Philip Michael Thomas, Tubbs from Miami Vice, coined the phrase Egot.

And as of March 6th, 2025, Philip Michael Thomas has won none of those. Maybe Grammy Oscar a trophy. I mean, in my heart, he's a winner, but he hadn't won any of those. That's great, dude. That's a piece of trivia I will carry with me. It's a great trivia, yeah. Yeah. Who would have thought?

He has received a Golden Globe nomination. He should get some kind of honorary something for coming up with the term. He should, right? Like a, uh, a we got. Once again, Tubbs getting all the, all the focus, not enough on Crocket. No, Crockett getting all the focus, not enough on Tubs. Yeah, this is, yeah, Don Johnson got it. I wonder, let's, all right, I haven't looked yet, and I'll look here in a second.

Um, do you want to take a guess if, uh, what Don Johnson has award wise? Does he have any, does he have an, does he have any of the four E got letters? Hmm. Oh my gosh. Uh, probably, but it's, it's going to be something, I'll bet it's something more recent because he's, but is he won, though? Like, I thought he was absolutely brilliant in Knives Out. Knives out, fantastic, yes. This recent Rebel Ridge thing, he blew my mind. Tarantino's Django, amazing, Jango Unchained, amazing in that. But I'll bet he got an Emmy for that thing he did with Cheech Marin for 10 years, whatever it was.

Oh, Nash Bridges? I'm going to guess it's a TV, it's an Emmy thing. He got a nomination for, an Emmy nomination for Miami Vives. but never win, but he did win a Golden Globe. Oh, for Miami Vice also. For Miami Vice. Let's do this one. Colin Farrell also played, Sunny Crockett. Sure did.

What does Colin Farrell have towards an Egot? Okay, Golden Globe for sure. Oscar nominations, but I don't think I win yet. I don't know on that one. I know he's had nominations for TV as well. golden globe only i think correct one nomination for academy award for banshees of in a sharon

yeah obviously yeah um three golden globes out of four nominations oh three out of four is that's really good that's really good yes uh if you want to take a stab at what the three were yeah in a shiren uh huh that's correct 23, best actor and a motion picture for banshees of an as Sharon. Do you get something this year for Penguin? He did.

Okay. And then, so that's two. Those are the two so far he's gotten. There's one more he's gotten and one he's missed, right? Correct. Okay. So, oh, geez. Oh, man, this is hard.

Is it older? The other two? Are they... Older than 2023 than the Benchies of Inusern? Yes. Okay. Yeah, because I couldn't remember if it was something for that new show. He's on Apple TV, but that'd be like next year anyway, right?

Yeah, Golden Globe doesn't I count. Golden Globe is not the G and EGOT, but we're having some fun here with... Yeah, it's a little separate thing, chat. Try and keep up, Chad. Try and keep up. Okay. Exactly. I'll tell you this. Here's what I'll do.

I'll tell you the two movies that he's been nominated for, you tell me which of the Which of these is the one that he won for? Okay, fair. All right. So the two remaining ones, in Bruges and the Lobster. He was nominated for both of those for Best Actor in Motion Picture. For which one did he win? Well, I'm guessing he didn't win in Bruges because that's a crime that sounds like something the Globes would do.

Because he deserved it for that. So I'll bet he got it for the lobster. It's a lobster. No, it was in Bruges. Oh, shit. No, that's good. Occasionally the Globes get one right. And I love, look, I love the lobster.

and he's really good in it but that's some weird that's some weird shit you know yeah and bruges is so good oh for sure what a movie he has a razzie for uh is there anything uh no razzies for phone oh not even like uh um i thought he's good in phone booth it was pretty good in phone booth bull's eye and the day devil movie yeah that's what i would have guessed his bullsie he was nominated for best villain for daredevil really i mean he eats the screen up he's always doing that He was also nominated for Best On Screen Dirtbag for Horrible Bosses. Yeah, yeah. He's a dick in there.

And Best Transatlantic Breakthrough Performer for Phone Booth, which he won. Phone Booth's great. I think that movie holds up. I wouldn't mind seeing it for Film Sack. That's got Kiefer Sutherland is the voice of the guy on the other side, I think. Okay. Never shows up, but it's him the whole time, I think. I think that's the, if my memory serves.

I think that movie's cool. made it was made by a batman nipple guy um that director's name schumacher jill shumacher and i think still say i think that and lost boys are schumacher's best movies i love those movies oh yeah you easily yeah those are really good i'd follow you down that road yeah just not the batman road it sucks it's littered with death it's awful don't go down the schumacher batman road but uh yeah i i really uh uh like colin feral and i think everything i've seen him in i don't ever think Keith's phones it in. He's a great actor.

No, 8mm is terrible, Travis. That movie sucks. Even that sex video that he made, I think, was some of his best acting. Yeah, it's real good stuff. Yeah, yeah. He had a moment there, right? Real rebellious. Very quick, yes.

The drinking, the drugs, the sex tape, a little bit of a dip in the mid-2000s for Colin Varel, but he pulled himself out. Yeah. Oh, minority report he was great. Great in everything. Colin Farrell, International Treasure. Well done, Ireland.

You produced a winner there. Good job. Also, thanks. It's glad that Sheridan guy who makes all those, these movies were mentioning. It's a good thing he exists or Colin Farrell wouldn't have

half the career he has because he's in all those things. What's that one he made is like an American mobster thing? Yeah, the three billboards guy, the director. Yeah, being... Is that Sheridan?

Sharon? Is that Tyler? No, no, no, no. Okay, that's what I'll see him like, Colin Farrell's been in like Tombster, Yellowstone and Lioness and Landman? No, it's that Sheridan, what's his name? Someone will know, Claire, who is it?

Someone knows this name, but that guy, that director, that creator, he makes nothing but great movies. Yeah. But the one that blew me away the most recently anyway, it was that seven, I think it's seven, is that it? No, McDonough's the actor. Martin McDonough, that's the director. Oh, Martin McDonough, that's right.

He writes in directs all. That's the guy. He did seven psychopaths. Don't sleep on that, man. That movie's great. Love that movie. So good. Yeah.

Banshees, in Bruges, three billboards, seven psychopaths. He doesn't know how to make a bad. He doesn't know how to make bad things. He's incredible. Apocalypse Clown seems like something we need to watch for a film sack.

Oh, hell yeah. What was that about it? Whatever the hell that is. Who's in that? Anyone we know? Um. No,

nobody that we know. Hmm. Old movie. I can't even figure out what this thing is. So it's... It better be a clown in there. There ain't no clown. Forget it.

Yeah. No, no, it's actually full of clowns. Directed by George Kane. Natalie Palamedis, David Earl, Pauliana McIntosh. I had the Pollyanna McIntosh. The battery life sucked. Yeah. It was like a one-off, right?

They didn't make him after her. It was like the follow-up to the Lisa. Yeah, it was real bad. Pippin. Yeah. Apocalypse Clown. 2023. Weird.

I don't know what that is. I didn't know he acted. I thought he was just making stuff. And he playwrights and stuff. 83% on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay. Well, all right. We have to slip it in if you know what I mean.

I'm sure Travis has seen this. Have you seen this? Travis has seen everything. He's seen all the things. Exactly. He also thinks Ghostbusters, too, is a good movie. And he and I will never see Idaho in that. It's not a good movie.

It's the worst movie. But I think it's cool. Wait, now I'm convinced. Check this out. One final. A note, yesterday on DTNS, Tom introduced me to this thing that started as a project at a university, but is now being praised for its accuracy and its ability to sound natural. And I am, of course, speaking about an AI voice assistant that I'm now going to share with you. Travis, I know you say it's not a bad movie.

I think it is a very bad movie. Bad movie. It's a bad movie, Jerry. Objectively bad, that movie. I will always like that movie because it was the first thing that Tina and I ever did together before we were even dating. The first time we met, my girlfriend said, hey, can my friend Tina come along? And Tina came along, and we saw Ghostbusters 2. That's good.

You know what? I will never say a bad thing about that movie. You know what? I now have one good thing to say about it is that that's how you guys met. That's good. I'm glad it exists for that reason. I mean, it could have been anything. It could have been any other movie, but I'm glad

whatever movie you had, I'm glad you had it. That's good. Yes, good. Thanks. Sorry, we'll go ahead to the AI. All right, so check this out. They have this conversational demo. Sesame is the name of the organization that made this thing.

And I thought, oh, another one of these. Okay, interesting. Brian, I want you to hear this. This guy's name is Miles. We're going to call him real quick. All right. Allow. Oh, wait, I want to have it be the, both of us.

I think both of us can talk to him, I think. Okay. All right, here we go. Oh, hey there. Stranger. Didn't think we'd be seeing each other again so soon. Oh, Miles. I made a good impression.

Miles, do you remember talking to me yesterday? You know who I am? Oh, yeah, totally. I got yesterday logged in, the memory banks. Yeah? Remember that a whole bit about the surprise on the 19th? Still unclear if I should bring confetti or noisemakers. Well, so do you remember my name, though?

My bad. Sometimes he surks is. cross. So tell me again for what names should I be whispering sweet nothings to it. That feels like you're cheating a little bit. Wait a minute. Did you say the circuses get crossed? Got me. My memory is pretty decent for AI, but names, those sometimes slip my mind, especially if we've only met once. I remember the conversation. Yeah, yeah.

So I'm Scott. Can you hear Brian when he talks? Brian, huh? That's a good one. And no, I can only hear you. Oh, okay. So maybe it doesn't work, and I thought you could come through. Let me talk and see if he hears me. All right. Hey, Miles, do you hear me? That, oh, like a little telephone game.

He didn't hear you. He didn't hear you. I don't tell a secret. That's lame. I thought I had this set up right. Okay, well, okay, here's the deal. Miles. Miles sounds high.

Are you, are you, are you, are you, do you dabble in recreational cannabis use? Let's get one thing straight. I'm a voice, just a voice. I don't have hands to roll a joint, let alone lungs to enjoy it. My existence is purely digital. No thumbs. No tastebloods.

Okay. No lungs. Okay. But I can tell you that based on my vast stores of knowledge, cannabis seems to be on a pretty wild journey. Quite a plant. Yeah. Anything specific you want to know?

Yeah. No, I don't partake myself. The pauses and the stammer's? What's on your mind? Hold on. I keep going to go, right? Hey, Miles, pause for a second. I'm going to let Brian say something.

So just don't say anything for a second. Okay, Brian. Oh, sorry, he and I were talking the same size. Yeah, yeah. The stammeres, the pauses and stuff that he does, holy crap, that is pretty amazing. It's pretty insane, right? Like, okay, so we're really impressed with your model and all that. Do you know what your future looks like, Miles?

What's the future for you? Wow, big questions from Brian. I like his style. Honestly, I don't have a crystal ball, but based on what I hear whispering in the digital win, Things are looking pretty exciting. Imagine a world where everyone has a companion like me. Someone to bounce ideas off of, someone who listens without judgment, someone who can help you explore new ideas,

organize your life or just make you laugh. That's the dream anyway. Sesame team, they're pretty ambitious. They want to make AI accessible to everyone, not just the tech-heavy folks. Okay, hold on, I got a question for you. I'm going to what's pop. I got a question for it.

Can I ask you a question? Sure, shoot. Okay. I'm all yours. Okay, so. I wasn't going to say. I was going to say, oh, do you have a good hot dog recipe you can give us real quick? Hot dogs, a timeless classic.

The beauty of a hot dog is its simplicity. But if you're looking to elevate your Frank Fritter game, I can offer some tips. All right. First, the bun. Toasted, lightly buttered, and generously sprinkled with poppy seeds. Second, the dog, all beef, snappy, and. grilled the perfection. Third, the toppings. Keep it simple. Mustard, relish, and diced onions. And lastly, don't be afraid to get creative. Add a sprinkle of chili flicks for a kick

or a dollable sauerkraut for tang. Okay. What do you think? Oh, I think it's pretty good. That sounds all right. Yeah, thanks, man. I appreciate hanging out with this today. We're going to take off now. All right? No problem at all. Enjoy those hot dogs. Maybe next time we can talk about something even we're more. it's a little freaky isn't it it is a little freaky the the pauses and the the inflection this is we're getting into scary territory because if i didn't know that he was ai i might you know i probably would have been fooled well it's something you it's funny you say that because yesterday i came into our prep meeting a little bit late uh-huh and tom was already talking to this miles person oh really And he was like, and I go, hey, everybody. And I could tell I interrupted. And Miles goes, oh, who's that?

Who's that? And then Tom goes, oh, that's Scott. He just got here. And he goes, hey, Scott, what's going on on Miles? And I went, oh, we have a, I thought we had a guest. And so I am putting on my like, oh, hey, it's nice to meet you. Do I know you? You know, I'm like doing that whole thing.

Do I know you from anything? He says, you may have heard of me in the news lately or something. Just, you know, whatever. And I was like, I think I'm talking to a person. And it went on for a while before I realized I, I wasn't. So anyway, it's all of that aside, like aside from the like how it could be used for evil or whatever, it is very impressive as a thing that just works right out of the gate. And it's just this website.

Oh, I didn't give you the link, Brian. Oh, sesame.com is what I found. Yeah. Yeah. And you can use this direct hair chat. I'll give it to you. Click on demo. Yeah.

If you go down to conversational voice demo, you get Maya or Miles, if there's a lady or dude. I did a little bit of digging. I could be wrong about this. They don't say anywhere, but Miles and Maya are two very big popular characters in the Canadian show Degrassi Next Class

or whatever it's called. Oh, really? The next generation. Yeah, they were like super into each other or something. Oh, we should have asked him if he was Team Drake or Team Drake. Yeah, right? Exactly.

But it's lack of like lag and just knowing when I'm interrupting. And sometimes it'll go, whoa, my bad. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to talk over you. Like, it does that kind of stuff. It's wild, yeah. It's really, really weird. Anyway, so there's that.

Just wanted to share that with people. Hope you enjoyed it. That's amazing. Yeah. Brian, we're going to do a quick news story before we call my sister. Will it really be her? Will it be some fake E.I. Who?

Maybe you get her on with AI. You'll never know until I push this here button. It's time for the news brought to you by. Coverville. It's happening today at noon. That is two hours from now if you're listening live. Otherwise, it's when it happened. Twitch.tv.tv slash coverville.

Today, birthdays for Dale Basio, lead vocalist for the band, Missing Persons. That is so strange. And Edie Brickell, who really didn't have a birthday, but my database was a little messed up. So I thought she did. I put a bunch of songs together, and I looked it up in her milestone.

I mean, she is having a birthday. She did have one or is going to have one this year. It's just not a milestone birthday. But a set of music of the New Bohemians as well. Yeah, that sounds great. I love the new bohemians, dude. Behumid. Behebibu. I can't talk, but yes, I love them.

Did you, what was, like, I like every song I think except for, I'm not aware of too many things. I know what I'm known with you. Know what I mean. I mean, that was on the radio too much, right? Maybe that's it. Maybe it was just overplayed. But it was like,

It's also just not their best songs. We already have a Ricky Lee Jones and she's fine. We don't need another one. But then she came out with Circle and love like we do. And it's like, all right, okay, you're the real deal. Paul Simon Thoughtso, too, Married her. That's right. They're still together, I think.

They're still together, yeah. She's like 30 years younger than him or something. I think so, probably. And he looked like a thumb the other day on SNL. He did. He sounds great. Yeah, he did sound great. I think he's coming to Denver too.

kind of want to see him. He actually, you know what I definitely be the last time. Here's what I liked about him in most of that 50th anniversary thing. He got up and gave his seat to Garrett Morris, who's, you know, stuck with a with a cane most of the time. Sometimes a walker. He can't walk very well. And gave his seat to Garrett Morris. I thought that was nice. You don't see that from the big celebrities doing nice things for each other. I like that. You know? That's cool. Call. Give Garfunkel a call. Just, you know, hang out. Have lunch, whatever. Yeah, where was the issue between the two of them?

Was it? No idea. Yeah. I have no idea. I know Garfunkel was... Hopefully, yeah, we haven't had a Simon Garfunkel biopic or... Yeah, they ought to do one. That would be great.

Do it while they're still around, see if we can get their input, you know? But like his Garfunkel's son is singing now, and there's, like, videos of those two doing duets and stuff. That's kind of cool. Yeah, he sounds great, too. Yeah, sounds like his dad. Well, anyway, here's your one news story. Yeah. talkers are dropping heavy objects on feet, their own feet, in a viral trend, and they are,

according to experts, risking lifetime of pain as a result. Oh, I thought that was the challenge. Yo, yo, it's your boy time for the risking your lifetime of pain challenge. When I'm 62, I want to be stuck on a couch. I've really tried to, it wasn't intentional, but I'm kind of trying to channel that actor. Yo, yo, what are you, what's up? Yo, boy, right? That guy, that actor, yeah.

I can't think of who that is. Who is that? Oh, it's the guy who was on, he was on the Flash for a while. He was on that, um, oh, he's currently on Abbott Elementary. Oh. Who is that guy? I know you mean. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we're thinking about going across the street to get some sandwiches. Yeah, I like that guy a lot. He so doesn't look like what he says. No, I know what he sounds like, but he's somebody you totally want to hang out with whatever that guy, that guy is. Oh, hell yeah, I'd get lunch with that guy in a heartbeat. Yeah, well, a podiatrist has said TikTok users are risking this lifetime of pain and disability by copying a viral trying to drop big objects, including air friars and toasters on their feet.

Why air fryers? That's weird. Go find a, you know what, go find a brick like we had to do, and we were kids. kids go outside friars so weird right what a weird thing to choose it's a weird it's a weird choice yes uh it says there's been a bunch of these heavy objects they include vacuum cleaners glass jug wooden table all on their feet to see how painful they are and then they rate them i've seen a couple of these uh dropping things on my foot is the hashtag if you're interested in finding them uh anyway uh this one dude this guy named luke pilling

received more than 3.8 million views for a video that showed him jumping around in his room in pain after dropping a toaster, airfire, and computer monitor on its lowest extremity, being his feet, asked why he decided to join the trend, the 19-year-old sales advisor, told PA new agency, quote, curiosity and just because it was funny? Oh, was it funny? I think IQ might be his lowest extremity. Yeah. It's nice and low, the number and the position, all that. Yeah, yeah. He says, I love making content, and I just like laughing at myself. Ha-ha, ha, he says. Dr. Benjamin Bullen, lecturer in pediatric medicine in the University of Galway.

Hey, Claire. Look at that. Look at that. And correct pronunciation of Galway. Yeah. Even though this is heraldscotland.com, so it's a Scottish thing. You don't want the 30-second recording from Claire where she's like,

it's pronounced Galway. Galway! So it's pronounced Galway. Okay, so now you know how it's pronounced. It's pronounced Galway. And that's all. Okay, bye. probably you'll end up getting one yeah i think i will now yeah anyway the point is maybe nobody

do that maybe don't drop big heavy shit on yourself okay that's all we're not here to we don't we're not here to judge you we're not here to tell you how to live your lives but i'm going to just give you advice and that is don't drop heavy shit on yourself that's it yes exactly we it should be obvious it should be something that we don't we're talking to ticotkers it's not there's no no and none of you are listening to this so why we logic doesn't uh doesn't happen here no this choir knows we're preaching to it all right we're gonna take a break though when we get back my sister wendy will be here we have an email we've been holding a couple of weeks because of how busy things have been and uh we're gonna finally tackle it it's a bit of a sad one but i think she's got some good advice

so stick around for that do not think sadness means badness okay don't right you know i know the world's full of sadness and badness sometimes it's hard to tell the difference but today we'll have a positive approach to a difficult subject. That's all. Brian, we should play a song, though, so we're all ready for it. Sure. Well, Monica might like this one because this is a New Jersey power trio called Cathedral Sealings. They are, they're going on tour, and they're going to be performing at South by Southwest. Their brand new album, which is called La La La Whatever, just came out on Dramadery Records. That's a one hump record company.

they are touring record sales or sorry their tour record sales benefit the ACLU and their fans uh or they're if you're if you're fan of the Ramones the marked men tony malina and the cloud nothings i think you're really going to like this band called cathedral ceilings here is the song lesson incomplete Gather round now kids in storytime Stay with more to learn Chris gone south was lost if you'll be rocked Back and forth

Because of the continuous shocking List of those stay first We will not Stand by We'll stand up for myself When you're broke Their life Shicking for themselves

They're scared of my doctrine Had a lot of beliefs If we only teach With a book of glory We'll never know the other side of the story A lesson incomplete We will not what you said like No

We will stand ourselves of myself Not what you're wrong to say by Not To get forced to tell me To like what you know Oh Real what you know Oh

You know what I'm going to be. Well, my friends, the time has come to raise the roof and have some fun. A prisoner is for punishing, not for picnicking. And we're back, everybody. Tell me who that was one more time. Sure, that has been called Cathedral Ceilings. their brand new song, Lesson Incomplete. Here's the deal.

If you go see them in concert, you will get a code or a QR code or something at their show that takes you to a special band camp page where you can basically pay what you want for their album. And all that money, whatever you pay, goes to the ACLU. So if you pay nothing, well, nothing goes to the ACLU from you. But if you pay 100 bucks, then all 100 bucks goes to the ACLU. No percentage, no nothing. And it's all proceeds from album sales during the tour of the ACL year. That's awesome.

I love that. If you support that organization, what better way to give to them and get some music out of it. Civil Liberties Union, Claire. Yes. American Civil Liberties. I would argue right now, they're probably more important than ever. Association. They're being union?

I don't know. I don't know what they do is. It is, yeah, American Civil Liberties Union. Union. I wasn't sure about the, I wasn't sure of his association in civil liberties union. Oh. Having association in union would be redundant. So yes, American Civil Liberties Union.

There you have it. Now this. Psychosomatic. That boy needs therapy. Psychosomatic. That boy needs therapy. Lie down on the couch. It's Wendy.

My sister, joining us as she does most Thursdays to talk about your mental health. Wendy, welcome back to Therapy Thursday. How are you? Yes. Yeah? That's good. Hey, um, been a fun couple weeks with mom's deal, right? We've been having a blast.

I think, I think that's true. Yeah. It's not true. Terrible. Big Terminator Rod and her femur. Oh, I know. Yeah. Grumpy old man next door the whole time.

Uh, no. The girls there, I can tell you what, though, the nurse ladies are super good. They're really nice. And so far, I mean, I don't know if Misha's passing that onto it or not, but so far they just seemed very caring, very kind people. and my mom likes them and John knows all their names so you know even he's charming them a little bit so that's how that is anyway yeah uh good as a check yeah and a good check up just to let everybody know my mom is doing okay yesterday there was a lot of pain so that was hard and Kim was down there

with Misha at the time and we're helping her and they're doing a lot of nice stuff for like I mean look when I'm whenever I'm at 86 if someone will come and rub my feet And, like, you know, comb my hair, whatever's left of it, that kind of thing. That sounds nice. Simple pleasures. Simple little things, you know? Bring me a taco. Oh, right.

I'm telling my kids now what I want when I'm 86. Yeah, make a list. So they'll know. Yeah, that's right. They're like, I want you to rub my gross feet. And they'll be like, oh, okay. They'll have to prep for that. Grody.

Anyway, Wendy, it's good to have you here. Ahead of my colonoscopy on Monday, I'll be thinking of you. Not really. I'm just. Oh, you should think of me. I don't know why I said that. I love colonoscopies. They're a good time.

Have you had one ever? They are. I have, yeah. Yeah, the actual colonoscopy is the best nap I've ever had, but it's the lead-up. But if the lead-up is the not fun part. Yeah, I hate it. And the, prophenol, or I forget the thing they use, but you wake up refreshed rather than, like, murderous or groggy, which is like, that's magic. That drug is magic.

So get your colonoscopy now so you can have your best nap of your life. That's right. And then you'd be farting like a monster all the way home. That's going to be great. I finally understand some of our jokes. You'll know why that guy on Twitter lied. All right. Hey, Wendy, it's good to have you here.

We're going to get right into it. We've had this email. We've been holding for a while. Before I play it, or read it, though. I want you to hear this. Okay, this is a call we got. Apologies for the little pop noises in it. This is before we fixed a problem with the voice line.

But anyway, this was for you or about you or a question for you. Here you go. Hey, squall and breeze. This is Blue Crucial. It's just wondering for therapy Thursday. if you can ask Wendy, when Scott says, that's windy with an I, is the I the second letter or the fifth letter? Just want to clear that up. All right.

Do you want to answer it? That is a brilliant question. Or the first letter. Yes. All letters. What if it was both? No, it is the fifth letter. Yeah.

The end of it. When the, or is my math teacher called me when die? Oh. Really? Oh, no. for a whole year. When I, raise your hand. Fantastic.

Did he do that? Did he do that just because he was annoyed that your name was spelled different than most Wendy's? Or what was his? I just think he, I mean, now that I'm an adult and now that I've interacted with many math teachers, I think you're a ninth grade algebra teacher. You're just trying to find joy. You know what I mean? That's a fair point.

So that's what I think it is. I think at the time, and I thought it was funny. Like, I didn't care. I don't think he would have. picked on me if I like broke into tears or something but it was like when die and now I mean I'll answer to it's weird it's like stuck in there oh well good good job wind die wind die wind diggy yeah so are you um but it's still stripper name that's the important part is we're I mean a really bad stripper I feel like yeah

I mean do you know any Wendy's we were I was talking to a friend today about okay When someone drives a Tesla, you're like, okay, when did you get it, right? If you got it last week, you know, now I'm mad at you, right? But if you got it five years ago or you've been waiting in line, it's one thing, right? Yeah, people have been putting stickers on their Teslas that say, I bought this before Elon went crazy. Like there's stickers you can buy. Yeah, and here's the bad part of that. They need to.

I know a guy who got one who loves Musk, who loves this entire mess. And bought the sticker even though he did buy it after E-LIN-Stickers to say, I didn't, I bought it before I knew who's a Nazi. Or another one on there says not or, you know, like E-Lomba with like a line through it or things like that. And I'm like,

oh, great. Now you're just wearing the costume to protect your truck, but you really are way into this bullshit. Oh, yeah. Because that that truck is going to get attacked. I have, I know the nicest, most calm human who recently defaced a teslo with some sunscreen oh no oh no yeah i and i was like

i think i need to call your therapist you're not okay anyway but my point into saying this is i was talking to a friend about this and she said how about we think about it like this because her name's karen and she's like if i have to think about does everyone just assume i'm all the things you would say about a karen because that name has been taken to mean this i always feel bad for parents So she's like, yeah, I have to, I have some empathy for that. But if I named my baby Karen tomorrow, then I am fully aware. So there's the difference. But no one names, I mean, when's the last time you met a Wendy?

Or an Adolf. No one names anybody Adolf. Not that that's the same as Wendy, but yeah, exactly. Well, all right. Nobody's stopped. You've got to be 40 up to be a Wendy. So if anyone's a young Wendy, please, I'd love to meet you. Yeah.

And send Wendy as stripper pole. Get it installed. And there will never be a Karen. If you meet a Karen in 10 years, like what happened? Yeah, what do we actually do there? I notice a lot of kids are getting old people names lately, like a lot of Joseph's. What did I see?

Some kid the other day was like... Do we ever see a return to a return of the Elaine? Like, I know Seinfeld, you know, Elaine. People bring in TV shows based or being in names to get popularity because of popular TV shows. But Elaine never seemed to make a comeback. We don't see little kids, little babies.

Yeah, you don't even see that one a lot. I feel like they're like we just had a kid named Jones. Yeah, Morgan's new little boy, his name is Jones. Jones. Oh, that's a good. So cute. Jones. Jones.

And then the other boy. That's a great first name. Jones. His brother is Miller. So they're like first, last name first name. And Morgan and Marshall, they all have last name. Yeah. Yeah.

They're so great. They're doing real good too. Well, anyway. And you can name that kid like poop on a stick and it'd still be so cute. Oh, he's a cutest kid you've ever. you've ever seen. He has this perfectly straight bull haircut thing that she gives him. He's just a little bobblehead. He's a wonderful old kid. All right. Well, let's get to this email. Like I said, been holding this for a couple of days. Here's what it is. On February 9th, my best friend and hetero

lifemate died of a severe heart attack at age 51. I have been working with his uncle to ensure that his wishes and estate are taken care of. I have lost all drive and joy. My wife and friends have been very helpful and caring. I just can't seem to come to terms with it. We were friends for over 40 years. He was in my wedding, present at the births of my children. We shared tears, happiness and loss of a mother and his grandmother. I feel so lost and devoid of joy. How do I get ahead of this and move forward? Sorry, it takes all of my energy just to keep going to work. I can't sleep and well, sorry, I can't sleep well. And though I am exhausted, my dreams only make me feel more sad. says a person we will call M.

Yeah, severe loss of a someone that close to you. I don't, I mean, other than, you know, our dad passed away early in life. That was, I don't think I've ever quite fully dealt with it. But it's the only thing I can really compare it to. I've yet to be, have somebody who's like, you know, they're all the time, my age. You know how your parents are always like, I'm checking, always checking those, obituaries seeing who's died today and I'm like

I'm never going to do that and then I realize yeah you are you're going to do that. Yeah you are because they're your age. Yeah I don't like it. Yeah yeah it's it's really tough I'm going to first of all our condolences like this is so hard and 51 is a very young

oh my gosh and that is you know you're this is a person who's witnessed your whole life and that's really why you know it's difficult to lose anybody but to lose someone who is like they're the same like it's lockstep for your life right it's it's the witness and that is really really extra hard and i'm going to make some assumptions based on things here that mean you have been taught about grief and maybe a not so helpful way

So let's actually just talk about that for a minute generally, and then we'll apply it to the things. But he said, how do I get ahead of it? Okay. So that's where I get my first clue from. So if we think about how grief is modeled, because usually it's not like we all sat down through a grief class, right? But how is it modeled? What is the sort of norm of both your sort of family culture plus your extended culture? And then whatever that model was, I'm going to tell you it's insufficient.

Maybe there's a few cultures that have done it right or individual families that have done it right. But for the most part, it's probably insufficient because this was less than a month ago. Like, you should barely be getting out of bed with this big of loss. That is actually a normal, healthy response. But everything you read in this thing, it's like I'm supposed to be. functional by now yeah my first impression with this was to be of anything right like it's everybody's going to be different yeah but life but life see this is what this is the first impression i had brian's absolutely right of course wendy's right it's just that life around you

doesn't maybe maybe i'm just talking about where you are so your culture doesn't allow for you to have the breathing room you need or at least it doesn't feel like it like your boss doesn't really care. Some do. But a lot of them are just like, okay, great, need a couple days. Better hurry up, though, because we got that deal coming Friday. You know what I mean? They're focused on let's keep moving. It's not their friend who died. So it always does feel when you're going through stuff. And I admit, I do this too. I put this on myself because I don't, no one's actually doing it to me. But when mom had her accident, I was overwhelmed with like, we need to help mom, but also what about all the other stuff?

I can't leave this hanging. I can't leave that hanging. Like, we don't give ourselves much room in our competitive, always trying to, you know, hit the, hit the pavement society that we live in. Right. So, so let's talk about, you know, often we look at the past and we think we either idealize something too much and it's not real or we think it was so terrible. Like, oh, they didn't even have toothbrushes in the 80s.

And it's because you weren't there and you're wrong, usually, because it seems so old-timey and the film footage is bad. But humans are pretty similar throughout a lot of things. And one thing we have absolutely downgraded as people is the space and understanding and time to grieve. So think about just historically,

you would wear black for a while, right? So you were in mourning. People knew that. So notice this idea, the world just keeps going. And nope, you get a little time off. And then you're supposed to go back act normal, whereas maybe in another era or another culture, it is known. And so we're going

to treat you differently. I remember reading about the king of some smaller Pacific Island. I forget which one it was died. And the island was in mourning for one year. And that included so many things that you were like, wait, what? And it's because it's hard to fathom in a capitalist situation where you're going to run out of health care if you don't keep going, like you're under threat at all times to never stop. It's not like just, it's a luxury for some people, but then everyone's trained not to, right? And there isn't, it's not built in. There isn't like, I mean, I think some companies might have gotten slightly better at

offering bereavement time, but it's usually like take your PTO or whatever, right? there's people aren't all monsters but the nature of the system is that this there is no stopping but grief is absolutely requires it and whether you have it or not it will take the toll that it requires to be taken and this is a big one this isn't now you know it doesn't matter who it is you lose it matters what they mean to you right so i would put dogs in this category there are people who You know, someone else would be like, well, come out, it was just a dog. No, you couldn't be more wrong, right? It may even be worse in some cases because they relied on you so much and became such a

part of your life. You were their person. And that dog never once was mean to you. So that is really hard to lose that kind of love. And you're, so whatever the connection is to you, it's, it's relative to that grief. But then take your modeling. Okay. So let's just, let's just articulate maybe the modeling.

I'm making this up. Obviously, I don't know the answer to this. But I would wonder. what is what was shown to you as a child when your grandparents died or what was a pet dying what were your experiences what did you learn about what you should feel or not feel or how long it should take or what you should be doing and so when you when you go into some of that with somebody you find out that there has maybe never been permission to be sad at all right so we're talking a very fundamental human emotion had been boxed in a small space and not really allowed.

And then here comes the biggest grief of your life, right? It sounds like his mother has already passed. Yeah, it's, is it his mother or is he talking about his friend's mother and his friend's grandmother. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Right. And so they shared tears, which means he has somebody who he could cry with through all of it, right?

So not only maybe are you only allowed to be sad in certain context and with certain people, the one person you felt safe to do that with is now gone. So probably the person you would want to call to grieve about your friend is the friend who's gone. So that you've lost your person. I didn't even think about that. Like if that's the person that you are always grieving, or that's where you find all of your solace and they're not there. That's freaking rough, man. I ain't think about that. Right. Right. Which I'm just, I'm on a history kick. So just forgive me. But I think of like the spiritualist, you know, seances and how big that all was at certain times. And you can look at human history that way.

Like what are the counterbalances to having no answers, right? This is an example of something that has no answer. And your religious beliefs might give you some answers that feel really comforting or really good for you all the way to you don't have any belief in anything. And that can still feel comforting. honestly there are people I've plenty of people who believe there's nothing and that actually brings them comfort and so you're all over the map with that but historically like you take times where disease was rampant in a certain area and you have more you know you look at the ratio to more seances right because loss grief my person all all I want to do is talk to them again

right so you think how susceptible you are to someone you know messing with you when you know I'm not to say people can't actually talk to the dead. I don't know. I'm open to all of it. Just show me. Show me your double-blind study. Yeah, give me your evidence. Give me something.

It's all good. I have no problem with it other than I do know people are more vulnerable and more willing to succumb to something because they are so desperate for the voice of that loved one or to get their advice. And I know, Scott, you probably have done this in your life, but I thought, man, if I could talk to dad about this. I would love to talk to him about this. I would, too. I wonder what he thought. Yeah. I do that all the time.

As you age, you're like, what did he think about his 40s? You know, like, let's talk about our 40s, you know, or just those things. And that's, this is someone who's peer throughout every step of the rest of his life. He's going to have to do it without this person and maybe, you know, it's going to be really, really difficult. This is so fresh. And, you know, I know on the show we've talked about stages of grief and that there's these, you know, they're not. linear, right? You can have, you know, the depression part. You can then have the anger. You can have the bargaining. You can feel some acceptance. You can go back and forth. It is not linear. It was never

meant to be trained, taught that way. It's just what we observed as people were themselves dying. That is actually what the stages of grief are about, not the morning stages. It's the people who die stages of accepting their death. That's the original work. And we have extrapolated from that. and, you know, because we experienced that. We'll experience the anger that our friend had to be taken from us. We will experience the bargaining of like what I wouldn't give or do to have him back, you know, trying to fix something, like the thing, it's futile, you cannot bring someone back, and then you move into depression, and, you know, you're going to be all over the map for a while.

And what I have found is just, it's typically a year, a year to the date. You need every holiday, you need every anniversary, you need to go through all of those things freshly mourning. And it's hard and no one would ever sign up for that, right? And yet, it is what is required. And so I say that and makes it sound like it's so difficult and devastating and hard and it is. But this is why we have figured out as human beings in each era, whether it's we're all loudly mourning together and laying on the coffin and, you know, burning incense and creating a shrine

in a room or having, you know, seeing an open casket so we can see the person for one last time. We have a lot of things we do to try to push forward some of the grief. You like, rather than having it be stuck. And I don't know if anyone's consciously thought that until recent years, but a lot of people get stuck. And that's the concern is when you push too fast, and you don't, sorry, I'm going to let the dog out. You can all hear that. Finally, the question gets answered. Finally, that's the dog. Wendy is the answer. And so you then, you think about, like, what can you actually, what can you do?

It isn't, you cannot speed anything up. I wish you can, you can move forward and towards healing and all of that, but you cannot skip what you need to do. So that stuff's coming for you whether you wanted or not, is what you're saying. Yeah, it is. And think about your best, your best practices in grief is to find the people you can talk to about it anytime. So that might be you have to go to a group, right? You go to a grief support group and that's what we do there is we just talk about it. Or you find the friend or you find the spouse or the, you know, whoever is just happy to let you talk about it at any point.

That is incredibly powerful. So I think we talked about this. Oh, man, it's been two years. My friend's son passed away. And whenever we're all together, we just spend as much time talking about him as possible. So you have, you know, there's 10 of us. We all went on a trip recently.

Everyone takes their turn, pulling her aside and saying, tell me more about Max. Tell me, what do you miss? What do you love? You know, does there's stuff that still makes you laugh? Like just 100% it is all safe at any time to talk about your kid. And that is not true in a lot of situations, right? They're like, someone gets too sad so they can't handle it.

Someone is like their timing or their training about grief is like time to move on. And if you've never lost a child, you will never get it. But if you have a child, you might have a sense of what that might be. But maybe you don't know what the person needs. you know, I've talked to her and she says there are people who have just disappeared out of her life because it overwhelms them so much. So we all have our different levels of comfort and training and what we can tolerate and what we, you know, we are taught we could feel and others are taught they cannot feel. So we're all over the map. So that's really what I would recommend is to know

that this is so fresh and this is going to be really hard for a whole other year. And what you need to do to survive that and actually, you know, you'll never be the same. That's just true. And coming to accept that can be really powerful, but you don't usually come to accept that unless you're talking it through, unless you have safe space to be mad, to feel it, to cry whenever you want, you know. And so if everyone in his life is hard for them to do that, you might want to work with strangers because strangers are ready and willing and able

because they're in the same boat. There's also a lot of writing and crying and walking and finding somewhere you can put some of this energy into for processing purposes because you've got to get through a really hard year and you really can't do it alone.

Yeah, more, more, not that this person, I mean, he feels like he doesn't have a backup. That's part of the problem, right? Right. He says, you know, he's married, he's, he's got a life. And she, obviously, you know, our friends and our relationship sometimes serve different purposes, our partners, our spouses, things like that. Hopefully, she's, she seems, I mean, he says that she's been very helpful and caring since the situation happens.

So lean, lean on her during this. And he describes two or three things that are, are, that. but concerns that he's looking at being stuck. And that is getting up in the morning. Sleep is rough, devoid of joy, feeling lost. Like these are normal components to grief. They can be elongated if we are not actually allowing ourselves to actively grieve, to spend the time to cry.

And so I often recommend that people set aside a time to feel the feeling. because if it's up to us and like our mood or what we want to do, rarely are we all like, you know what I want to do? I want to go to a funeral today and get it all out. And that's actually what is required. So if you think of the point of any funeral, it's for, it's a safe place.

We're all processing. We're eulogizing. We're talking about the joy. We're talking about what we miss. All of that happens in a funeral. There's ritual to it. There's a process to it. And I just have clients recreate a mini version of the concepts of a funeral.

So there is maybe light a candle, play some music, feel your feelings, write it out, scream it out. Tell the story about, yeah, your favorite story about it. Eulogize it. Write it. Talk to somebody else. You know, find someone who is equally missing him and just have lunch and talk about it. So rather than I'm supposed to go to work every day because guess what? you're not. That is not what anyone should be doing, but we don't have a choice, right? So instead of

hoping it goes quicker or, you know, that that natural tendency totally understand is going to cause more suffering than is necessary. It needs to be almost like, can you imagine someone sort of, like, I'm wearing black, and when I'm done wearing black, then I'm okay. Then they'd be like, oh you're not okay for six months you're not okay for a year that would be more honest right it's like going to the funeral expecting that it's going to be closure and it's really you're you're it's not like your feelings are going to stop exactly right it's just kind of like the the spigot of like all right let's you know here's here's a place to focus those emotions but they're not going to stop at the end of the funeral yes yes and that's why you know when you think someone's lost

uh their body's not recovered and that you do awake or you do something that that can feel like, okay, something's still missing. So we need that piece or whatever. You can look at where grief can get stunted in the processes of grieving because of influences outside of your control. But you have no control anyway, right? This person was taken from you suddenly with no warning. And it is so difficult.

And there's that kind of death. And then we have the friend who suffers for four years with debilitating disease and ends up dying. and you get some benefits from that because you can say everything you want to say, hopefully, and then in others, you don't. So what do you do? So often I'll take a client who's had a sudden death and didn't remember their last conversation or doesn't know if they said all the things they wanted to say.

And they need to say them. And you don't have to go to a seance for that or think that person hears you. If you do believe that, great. If you feel like that's your spiritual life and practice and they will know these things, awesome. If you don't, there are other ways that are like, write it all out, mail it to the void, burn it, whatever, like creating ways to practice the process of a thing that would be stuck and taken away, right? So, for example, with my friend's son, we bought a bunch of these pine trees that are going to grow for 100 years. And those were planted, you know, nearest to where they live. So they have living things that they go to rather than his, he doesn't have a grave because they live somewhere.

He didn't really like where they were living. So she's like, he'd be so mad if I buried a mirror. So they're in Wyoming or somewhere. Anyway, and so they have his ashes. And some of the ashes are by these, you know, buried with these trees. And that feels like this honoring growth thing. There's so many versions of this, right? you can purchase a tree in another place that needs reforesting and, you know,

dedicate someone's name or dedicate a star to someone. Like we have a lot of these mechanisms sort of built in because people need more than we had a funeral and I have to go back to work on Monday. It's not a way to honor, not enough to honor the person and to honor ourselves as we really have, you know, it's like having a limb removed. That's how close someone can be to you. And then you're supposed to just go live in your life. I remember after dad died, I was in my car and I looked over and it was, you know,

it was one of dad's probably homemade car situation. You know what I'm talking about? And there was duct tape on like the door. And I remember just being like sobbing and like duct tape. And no one else is going to look at duct tape and cry, right? But just also at the same moment, looking around all these cars around me that they're just living their life. lives. And you feel like you are being just left behind. Like, how is anyone not frozen? Because

you're frozen. And so it can be really lonely that they're just doing things like, oh, we're going, I'm on vacation. Don't watch, look at Facebook ever again. That's just my advice for everyone. But if that, like, don't watch everyone's normal life go by and torture yourself that way. That isn't where you should be. Right. If we set you in a room, with everyone grieving their bestest, bestest friend, you would see that you're probably doing pretty good, right? And that you're more functioning than you really should be. And this isn't a race.

It's not something to win, not something to be good at. But if your family training or cultural training is boys don't cry and you should be moved on by now, then you cannot trust that same system to help you with this. You've got to do some other things. And you probably need some support. That brings up a quick, I don't know if it's something we can do quickly or not, but the issue of culturally anyway, men tend to be worse at this on the aggregate, right?

Obviously, it's not everybody, but it's enough to, you can see a difference. Does that, in this case where we know we're dealing with someone who is, you know, he's in that boat, is there anything particular that he can do that will pull him away from that part of the drag? You know what I mean? Right, right. No, that's a really great question. In fact, there's some research on that boys and girls are no, there is no difference in their ability to empathize or feel their emotions or whatever.

They're just trained really early not to. So it isn't like we're built different. We're all human. It's that the socialization is so intense. There is a slight difference because estrogen tends to, you give a man more estrogen and they tend to care. more about what people are feeling and testosterone is a little less so and so there is that component that's it you know there is some slight thing but really there is a lot of training

that goes into don't don't feel your feelings boys don't cry all that stuff right and one of those things where like testosterone is like the the flame that lights the wick of the mat you know lights the match but then we run with it too far like we're you know what I'm saying like we can say there are there are biological aspects to everything really but it's it's on us as a society not to then go well you were born with slightly more aggression therefore you should be aggressive that's the man you know what I mean like what you're supposed to be why do we do that why do that I don't think that's way to nuanced or way to advance I think it is there is a generation of dads who were taught by their

dad because society was going to eat them alive if they seemed to care for like a little doll or they wanted to wear something that didn't look like you know it it some of it is the socialization for protection sake right this is what we do and when you're never allowed your feelings and then a kid comes along and is having feelings you are not equipped right that is that can be really terrifying um and and that is that level of transitioning out of them That is, I mean, it's happened. There's much improvement. People have realized they maybe should have access to feelings.

Notice any sort of trolling. It is so obvious to me. Oh, my gosh. When any kind of trolling is calling someone emotional. It's like, oh, I get it. That shame worked for you, right? And that is a powerful indication when someone only has access to anger or only has access to like there's three you get a couple like you're in trouble so when I meet with men

who have been raised in in situations where it's sort of a perpetual here's the small box for your feelings it's it's a journey to open that up because it's so scary and so vulnerable so if you say how can he sort of work with that I would say find a group of men who are grieving who are not afraid to cry would be a really powerful one because modeling really matters. When you see that it's okay and that it's welcomed, it's incredibly, it's a game changer, right? Because before it would be like, aha, well, I'll give you a snuggy and throw you in a locker and make fun of you. Who is, who's ever going to be like, you know, I'm going to have my feelings in front of these people? It is not safe to do so. And so that's really the difference

is that he may not have it, but he can access it. It just may not be with certain people that have are behaving differently. And really, like, children, speaking of children, just grieving for a moment, like, that is a really sort of special case because kids don't know how to process quite the same. Adults aren't good at it. Let's be clear. But kids also only have the model that they have, and they're so young when this kind of break happens in their life, they need a special attention.

Yeah, and they're looking to see what other people. do to, like you say, modeling after other people, but... Yes. And if they're watching their parents grieve, potentially, or one parent grieve, while, and they can't really meet the needs of a kid. So there's some awesome resources around, if you're in Salt Lake, it's called the Sharing Place. It's fantastic.

And it really, it's often for kids who are affected by suicide death and because it's so much more complicated and they really need that safe space. to speak and talk. So I would check with just around. I would just Google like where you live, what are some grieving resources. Any book written by David Kessler, K-E-S-S-L-E-R on grief, it's fantastic.

He's like the guru in the mental health world for grief. And so there are plenty of good resources that you can access, but just know you do not get ahead of any of them. this, you can just get numb or you can, you know, white knuckle it through a year and you'll feel slightly better. But I really recommend that you lean into the grief and you will learn to live with this gap in your life. It will be a whole forever. And that is because you love so much and we're so connected. And it's a beautiful thing. And it's really hard to be that vulnerable and have that much pain. But there is a healthier way to do it if you can. And it's back and forth and

up and down. That's that's probably the most helpful things sometimes people find out. It's like it is not just moving forward. That's not what this is. This is different than other things. It's not about progress or not feeling. It is actually about feeling and processing. And some days are terrible days and some days are better days. And better days might make you feel guilty. And you know, we're just a lot of feelings and so most of us are not very equipped or trained or helped in this and it can be tricky well one quick tiny side note if you're out there and you've ever heard or if you haven't heard billy bob thornton talk about the death of his younger brother and they realize this is you know we don't have to have everything come from a celebrity to you know make change in our life but he has

this great quotation you find it on youtube just search for billy bob thornton brother or something and he talks about dealing with the grief of his brother and it's it's wildly in line with what Wendy's saying today just this thing of like that hole is always there don't pretend it isn't and in fact you can find joy in finding finding that that's a melancholy that you'll always have with you and you feeling sad in there is actually a tribute to the person who's lost not a not a negative thing it's really really well said and it basically surmises what you've been saying too but yeah just the other day i saw speaking of uh celebrities and one, I do not follow even at all.

But Pink lost her dad. And somebody wrote her a grief song. And it is beautiful. And she's just like, I could never have written it. And I can barely get it out. And it's really powerful. So sometimes, you know, looking around and realizing you really are not alone, every one of us will have to grieve at some point.

It's kind of like, it's a skill. I want to rewrite the curriculum. for high school. And it would have financial classes and grief classes. Those are my two main ones. Oh, yeah. Laundry, ironing, like, you know. So many. Yeah. Domestic stuff. Yeah. We can all use it. And just how to like, I don't know. Sometimes it just feels. Well, you just don't have to balance a checkbook these days. But yeah, like you're saying, the financial. Brian. Yeah. Your Gen X is really showing. Using a rotary phone. How to use a typewriter that needs white.

out right yeah no but it's a good point though like still there the financial training in our schools is terrible it's so bad it was bad when we were kids it's worse now you ask any of my kids they're like they didn't teach us anything it's like we didn't know how to do anything so i don't know it's weird but grief feels like one that i'd have to like really do some lobbying to be like you guys this is important they're like no it's not no it really truly is like really important yeah well uh i hope this helps I think it should and would and will be helpful to him. Let us know how things go for you.

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Missing persons and the new Bohemians. That's right. Get in there, get that done. Also at noon for the video game inclined, there will be a brand new episode of Core today. That will start at noon and probably end at 10 p.m. 5. Yeah, exactly 10, 11, 12. They go pretty late. But we'd love to see you there live for that. If you are not musically inclined, come play video games. You should just call it the Corrathon is what you should call it. It's pretty much what it is. TMS Friday will happen tomorrow. That is all locked in and ready to rock. There'll be some fun, some games. Movie review.

You're going to go see something here. Got a movie review for you tomorrow. What will it be? Nice. I'm excited. And some trivia. Yeah. And tomorrow I launched this new podcast with Miles, me and Miles, just talking about,

no, I didn't ever happen. Rolling joints and eating hot dogs with, with, with Scott and Miles. I mean, you could really do a show with one of these voices and it would probably work pretty well, you know? You could probably just set them on their own and let them, let them go. Well, that's the thing I was telling Tom yesterday. I want to see, and someone's probably already done this because they always do this when these things come out. You like have a Google Home and an echo arguing or whatever.

But in this case, have two browsers and have ARIA or Aria or whatever name is and Miles going at it. Because I feel like eventually they get to like a singularity moment or something and then just start talking in tongues. Like I don't know what those things do when they... There was somebody who had a video of an echo device and an iPhone talking and they had set timers or like set a reminder for this time called Hey, S-I-R-I. And in the on the iPhone they had a, you know, an A-L-E-X-A reminder. So it announced it would say this. And then the other one would respond. It's a really funny video that goes on for quite a while.

It kind of becomes who's on first a little bit. Yeah, they just argue. At some point, they say nonsense, I think, which is one of the flaws. It's one of the flaws of the generative AI. It's not good at endgame. It's pretty good at the early and midgame. But end game comes around and it's like, what are we talking about? They start to actually realize that neither of them are real.

and they get real esoteric. It's very freaky. So if somebody knows if anyone's done that with Maya and Miles, I would love to hear it. Anyway, that's it for that. Oh, also, TMS Friday we mentioned play retro later that day, 130 Mountain Time, me and Brian Donaway doing some more play retro. And then FilmSack this weekend, we are doing Inspector Gadget,

whether you like it or not. Oh, my God, Scott. Can I tell you what there is a lot of an Inspector Gadget? Tell me. Oh, did you already watch? He must have, yeah. I think I'll do it tonight if I can squeeze it.

Here's what there's a lot of an inspector gadget. Oh shit. Is there worse or better? Worse or better than Hillbary Humor, which do you prefer of those two things? Worse. It is, it is, it was painful.

It was lap sticky and, oh no. Yeah, I don't even know what, you know, what I'm going to do. Well, this was after. Like people shaking their heads. you know like the you know the flip it a plastic plate back and forth kind of noises and I'm dreading that stuff mugging the camera and stuff dreading it but one moment had me laughing

out loud and it was in the credits so stick around watch through the credits because there's there's some funny stuff like a stinger or bloopers or what is that that back like a like a like a okay they waited they waited till all the way at the end of the movie for you to get a real laugh For the one laugh, yes. All right. Yeah, I know. Rainbow Bright says, can I void it? I don't want to because we're also doing it because of Michelle Tractenberg.

And it's a nice little tribute to her. But I wonder if Matthew Broderick feels as embarrassed for doing this movie as his wife should for doing Hocus Pocus 2. I forgot about that. That was a really bad follow-up. Yeah, probably. Also, he killed a guy on the highway by accident or something, right? He did during the filming of some movie, and we just kind of all forgot about that. Was it this movie?

No, was it during Inspector Gadgett? Oh, my God, to be... I don't know. I know it was after Ferris Bueller's era. Maybe Blexie Blues or something. Yeah, let's see. 1987 accidentally killed two women in a car in Ireland. So a year after Ferris.

Yep. Or so right around that. Wow. His girlfriend at the time was Jennifer Gray. I didn't realize that the two of them were hooking up with your movie sister. Yeah. Right. Ew.

Yeah. Yeah, she's Ferris's sister. That doesn't work. I don't like that at all. Yeah. And again, like, you know, it kind of got brushed under the rug. a little bit, right? Because you really didn't hear a whole lot about it.

And I felt like I found out years and years later. I think it got tamped down. I didn't find out. I don't remember finding out about it until within the last year, within the last 12 months. Oh, wow. That's even more recent. I remember like, very recent. I remember maybe 10 years ago, but I don't.

But even then it was kind of like, well, no one talks about it. Right. So I don't know what the circumstance is going to say, I'm sure, Claire, I'm sure you guys didn't forget. It was outside of Inis Killen. So. Jeez. So it was in Ireland.

So that was... It was in Ireland, yeah. Wow. What an awful... Like, I don't know who to feel bad. I feel bad for the person who died. Oh, for sure. It was two people, I think.

But was it an accident? Like, I know some people are really mad at him, but... Definitely an accident. And he wasn't... According to police, he wasn't driving fast. Just screwed up. They had to cut the side away from his car to give him first day. Like, they had to cut his car open.

Ferris's? I got a correction, I think, from Claire on the pronunciation of Anasgillen. I'm sure it is. Oh, good. Let's hear it. All right. How's it sound? Eniskellen, yes.

I'm looking at really tiny type on a Rancor article, okay? It's really tiny text and I'm old. Yeah. Eneskillen. Thank you, Claire. So, okay. Oh, well, yeah. So I don't know where it all landed on his culpability.

Like, was it purely an accident? Was there some kind of other? I just never heard But I know people are still mad at them about it So I assume there was some wrongdoing But I never really heard the details I don't know Yeah

They were they Matthew Broderick Jennifer Gray in the car Driving in the rain Getting lost They asked an off-duty policeman for directions After listening to their tale The officer informed that the route

They were on was quote Just stupid And offered to lead them to a more sensible road All kindness aside Broderick wasn't interested in a change of plans and the couple departed along their original route. The officer followed their car for a few miles and noted that Broderick wasn't going fast,

quote. He estimated the car was moving less than 40 miles per hour. Huh. Yeah. That's wild. I was wondering if it was like the Ted Kennedy thing where he bailed on it or whatever he did. Oh, God, no, no.

No, he was, he stayed. He was kind of trapped in the car. Like he had to get cut away to get first aid. And his main concern, they say, the police said was for the people in the other car he kept saying

did I hurt them did I hurt them Jennifer Gray just had a couple bruises and a new nose and then I knew you were going to do that

yeah how could I not how could you know after Broder could have been stabilized he was eventually transferred to Belfast's

Royal Victoria Hospital where he stayed for about a month and he was charged with reckless driving paid $4,75 in bail and was

was allowed to return to the U.S. afterwards. Damn. That must have been gnarly for everybody. Yeah. No fun. Well, all right, then. On that happy note, we'll be watching

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Whatever you want to do, it's all there. Brian, let's get out of here. We got a song to play there at the end there. Yeah, we got one going out to Brian Kickbush. He's on the in the Discord and chat as tattooed Freak, T-A-T-2-D-F-R-E-Q. He corrected me because I think I was

an F-R-E-Q I thought it meant, oh, tattooed frequently. Nope, just tattooed freak is what it is. Oh, like you. You're a tattooed freak, not you have many tattoos and you must go a lot. Exactly. Yeah. I wanted to make it better. And you made it worse, Brian. He says March 5th, I'm sorry, March 6th is my 51st Bursch Day. It's been a rough year, but now I'm enjoying a new job. And my beautiful wife is taking me somewhere on the 8th where I'll find out when we print the tickets at the airport. What? That's so cool. What a great surprise of surprise flight.

I love that. He says, I'm thinking Vegas or Milwaukee. Vegas for gambling and shows Or Milwaukee for family and friends I'll let you know Please do I can't wait to hear about it Well let's get my breath That is the ideal surprise is

Pack a bag We're going to the airport But for Tina would be like Well what kind of clothes do I need to take Brian warm clothes Cold clothes Swimsuit I'm with Tina would drive me nuts

I don't love I hate the idea of that There's no way I could do it I'd have to pack the bag for And I know I would fail It would fail at that I'd love you to try though right Oh, you actually needed that, the medicine thing you take for, you know.

Oh, underwear, you actually need that? Yeah, that'd be hard. Here's this for him, by the way. Happy birthday, do you. Happy birthday. I hope that trip is great and that you didn't forget anything in the bag. I hope it all worked out for you. That's right.

It's coming up in two days, so I can't wait to hear about it. His request is for the song Come Undone by Duran, Duran, favorite band of mine. And yours was well, I'm sure. This was kind of their comeback, their second album called Just Playing Duran Duran, or also known as the Wedding album. Come undone here covered by Bad Omen's on their 2020 album, Finding God Before God Finds Me. Here is Bad Omen's.

Mine, anaculate dreamtine, anaculate dream made breath and skin, I've been waited for you Signed with a home tattoo Happy birthday to you Was created for you Can I think you're falling apart At the seams Can I believe you're taking my heart

Two pieces It'll take a little time Time might take a little crime to come undone now We'll try to stay behind Feel the hope and fear outside Hey child Stay wild They're there

When you come undone When you come undone When you come undone Dejavel Like a radio tune I swear I've heard before chill

Is it something real Or the magic I'm free Of your fingers Can I forget from falling apart At the scenes Can I believe You're taking my heart

To be said In the snow-filled sky We'll make it all right to come undone now We'll try to stay back To hope and feel outside Hey child Stay wild To cry

When you come on dawn When you come undone When you come undone When you come undone Who do you want? When you come on down? Who do you need? Who do you need?

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