The Morning Stream - TMS 2792: Ketchup is Just Tomato Pudding

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Camel Toe Meat Pies. Childhood Fart. We Have to Go Baaaaaaaack with Dunaway. Foreign and Gross. Wafted With My Poo Air. Check your Scobies. Pillsbury Weiner Wraps. Why am I drippings vith Jus? X is for X Files. MacGuyver Gum. Moose and Elk and Moose and Elk. Poor kid getting my wind. We just sat back and let the wookie win. Tomato Pudding with Tom. Watching a Recommental with Your Nurse with Nicole and Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

They say a rock only sinks as far as it wants to, and the mother of the goat is right twice a day. They also say normal things like how great it is to invest in content you love by joining us at patreon.com slash TMS today. Coming up on the morning stream, cameltoe meat pies. Childhood fart. We have to go back with Dunaway. Foreign and gross. Wofted with my poo air. Check your scobies.

Pillsbury wiener wraps. Why am I drippings with Zhu? X is for X files. McGivergum. Moose and elk and moose and elk. Poor kid, getting my wind. We just sat back and let the wookie win. Tomato pudding with Tom. Watching a recommendal with your nurse with Nicole and Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

What do you do with hot dogs besides boiling them or broiling them? Ever try rolling them? What? With wiener wrap from Pillsbury. He seems to have a serious weed up his ass. The morning stream. This car smells weird. Good morning, everybody.

Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, March 12th, 2025. I'm Scott. That's Brian. Good morning, Brian. Hello, Scott. Good morning to you. There was really a thing called Pillsbury. weaner wrap. Yep, you could buy them.

I remember my mom making these. They had it was basically pig in a blanket. Yeah, I mean, you could do that with the unroll, the pop, you know, when you pop the canister open and you've got the... Popping fresh, was that what it was called? Popping

fresh, yeah, but it's the little squares that make, oh my God, why can I not remember croissants? And you just wrap the wiener in a croissant and then bake it. Yeah, I think this... Crescent rolls. Yeah. I think this... I think they were just, honestly, they were probably just like, hey, we could brand this and call it weiner wraps.

I know. Yeah, I'm just visualizing the kid working at the grocery store, opens up the box to stock the shelves, stock the refrigeration section with the Pillsbury items, pulls one of these out, puts it back in the box, closes it back up, seals it back up with tape, throws his apron on the ground and just leaves the store. Yep. Yeah, I can see it too. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. No more.

no more for me, thanks. Of those kinds of things growing up, do you have one that your mom would put together for you that you really like and remember like a, you know, quick snack type food item, weiner wraps or something equivalent? Did she ever do that? She, we used to do, we used to fry bologna to, like, get the, get it to where it's all, the edges are crispy and,

or, yeah, actually, I guess the whole thing would be crispy. And it would just kind of curl up like a bowl. and then a couple slices of rainbow bread and a little slice of cheese or something, maybe, maybe not. Yeah, sure. That's the one I remember was the, we didn't have a lot growing up. Single moms, very small apartment. Sure. Bologna and cheese sandwiches were kind of a staple in the household in the 70s.

Yeah, I also think there was, I don't know, late 70s, early 80s. Wonder Bread and Bologna must have been a booming market, you know, because it felt like everywhere I went. All my friends had it. Everybody was eating bologna sandwiches every day. Like it seems like a stereotype, but it was real in the day. I don't think anyone is really buying a lot of bologna now. Maybe they are, and I just don't know it.

Yeah. Would you like some bread that's not quite bread and some meat that's not quite meat? I mean, obviously it was meat and bread, but, you know, Wonderbread you look at now and say, oh my God, that's one of the worst kinds of bread we could have eaten growing up because there's no nutritional value. And then baloney, very far cry from the stuff that you might get in Italy hanging from a butcher's shop ceiling in a drying. For sure.

We also had these things. I don't know what these, we call them meat pies. That's not what they were, though, because a meat pie traditionally, you and I have talked about, we like those, right? The turkey pie. Yeah, or, yeah. You're talking about, like, the pot pies is what you're talking about, right? Yeah, or anything where it's like, you know, a nice good little pastry layout, anything like that is good.

But we had these things that were, we called them meat pies, but I swear that's not what they really were. They were these nondescript kind of generic bag of frozen, almost hockey puck, hockey puck circumference, but tall. Really? Okay. And then they were all white, I don't know what kind of breading that is. Do? I guess it's just dough. The dough, yeah, frozen dough on the outside. And then inside was like a frozen piece of, I think, just like hamburger meat. Oh, really?

Not even like veggies. No, none of that. Corn and carrots and peas. None of that. This was like freaking Russian gulag food is what it felt like. But my mom would make these. She put in line for four hours to get a bag of frozen white hockey tall hockey puck. Pretty much.

She'd cook them and she'd bake them. You'd take them out. And then again, they didn't. I won't feel like they had a name brand on them. They felt very generic. And they may have literally been generic. Because remember all the white generic stuff we had growing up? Totally did.

That was like a big thing for a hot minute. Yep. But anyway, she'd make these things. And then part of it was you'd put them in a bowl and then you'd pour au jus on it like beef broth. And then you'd eat that. That was the thing to eat. And we loved them. We freaking loved these things. I know that they were barely good for you to eat.

They were just like barely food. But if anyone out there, I've never been able to find. these since and I would love to find if there's a way to buy him now I would get some because that's the thing that like you'd come home from school you'd pop those in the oven for half an hour while you start watching syndicated Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke oh yeah totally totally cartooned like it like I remember having two of those while I watched like GI Joe Reruns is what I would want so by the time they're they're doing their PSA in the middle I'm cracking into the second one, and I really thought those were good.

Oz says he has some, but are they what I'm thinking, Oz? Can you take pictures of that and then send those to me? Yeah. Pictures or it didn't happen, Oz. Yeah. I just can't imagine those are still a thing you can buy, but maybe you can. Oh, Pirate Os? I have them at Pirate Os.

Oh, I love Pirateos. That's a place up not far from me. It sounds like cereal. It does. I have no idea what Pirateos. Yeah, okay. I think I talked about it once. It was a, I think, maybe KT Data, I can't remember who I talk to it.

But it's this place that has a lot of... Oh, yeah, the guy... Remember the story I told you where the guy who is on break and their break room table is exactly adjacent to the public restroom inside Pirateau's? Okay, yeah. And I had to poo in there. I had to poo in there,

and I was all worried that this poor kid on a break was just going to get my wind when I walked out of there. And he did. Right, okay. That's the place. It's awesome, actually. That store is so cool, like weird, exotic stuff you can't find anywhere else.

That's a place to do. The worst website ever, Batman. Oh, it's terrible. It's really bad. The website sucks. They're not known for that. Always packed. They break every web convention.

Like, the page opens to what's called their homepage, which is the fifth item in their menu, which is on the top of their map. Yep. It's not good. I doubt it adheres to any modern web standards. It's just garbage. Don't go to their website. However, the store is rad. If you're in town, it's really good.

My only complaint is they have a gravel road. It's really weird because it's not out in the middle of nowhere. It's off a main street. But for some reason, their driveway to their parking lot, they've decided to make gravel. And it's not grippy gravel. You're always sliding in it. People are spinning out in it.

The snow's hard to remove in the winter. I don't know what they're doing over there. But the place is great once you get in there. It's packed. They make these amazing sandwiches. their coffee's supposed to be insane. I never had it, but anyway. It looks like, you know, along the lines and tell me if I'm wrong,

but like sprouts, whole foods kind of similar. Sort of, except more like, here's a whole section of Peruvian hot sauces you'll find nowhere else but Peru. Or here's a section of strange candies that only the British know about or things like that. Yeah, no kidding. I'm looking at, they have a virtual, one of the things they do on their site that's not too bad is the virtual tour. and I'm like going through the store.

Seriously, what I'm trying to do is find the bathroom next to the table. Oh, that'd be great. See if we can find it. I can show you exactly where I was sitting or where that guy was sitting when I came out and wafted him with my poo air. Yeah, I wonder if they've got, if the bathroom is, if you can find the bathroom on their virtual tour. They may be said, we're not going to include this part in the virtual tour. Oh, you're so right about the site. Gosh, dang it.

It's an eyesore. It is. do you yeah look at that virtual tour and see if you can navigate your way to the uh all right to the turlis but i see what you mean like i'm going close up to one of the the the um what am i looking at here it's like a wall of items that are like spatulas cue tips and belgian chocolates looks like or something like that yeah it's that kind of stuff very strange I shouldn't say strange, but just stuff you don't find in a grocery store. Yeah, more home goods kind of stuff here.

Yeah, and they don't really do like produce, I don't think. They have some cold and frozen things and stuff like that. But, okay, so this image I'm showing you here, Brian, that they don't go in there. That's the entryway. It says zombie crossing or something on that little sign. Yeah, yeah. But you go in there and down and there's a bathroom down there. That's great.

They don't show it, though. But I pooped in there, and that guy did not look happy. He's having lunch out there, just like two feet from the door. It's like, you poor guy. I'm so sorry. I feel bad for it. I'm kidding. Anyway.

God, it's so weird. Their menu items, like their menus, it's like it's scrolling you through a tall page, right? Like a tall landing page, which is all the rage now. Yeah. But you can't scroll yourself through it. So if you click gift baskets, it goes up to the top of the thing. This has to be like Wix or Squarespace or something. And then they've got like a list of their, oh, their sandwiches look really good.

They are very good. Their sandwiches are killer. Oh. Well, we just got a photo from Oz. We might know what these things are now. Oh, good. Okay. These are it.

Is it? Is that it? Oh, shit. All right. I got to share these. This is, I'm just having childhood. I just had a childhood fart. Okay.

Check this business out. All right. This is a sideways shop. But those things, I can turn around so I can. actually see it hold on one second here okay there we go so those right there they're kind of again nondescript little little dough pies and inside is this meat and then you i think this plate may show it i can't tell if it's just the plate coloring but that you pour o juo over it or whatever like soaking in ozoo and they are so freaking good and he's got a brand here drippings with ju

june cam camelto no sorry cameron's cameron's meat pies tried and true family recipe these are it i didn't know they ever had a brand the ones we got around a bag ground beef and scottish style seasonings baked into a thin crisp pie shell so yeah like you're saying just ground beef yep in a pastry shell yep that's it those look a lot better than what i was thinking because you were saying like back then you were getting him 12 to a just a plastic bag that you shove in the yeah we got them in a big bulk bag you put in the freezer exactly just like that no brand uh got you okay so i don't know i don't know i don't know Maybe those don't exist anymore.

But this version, I'm going to get me some. I loved these. And they were, you know, they were there because they were cheap. You know, this is right around the time, things were a little tight with the family. So we ate a lot of these because you could buy them in bulk. A lot of frozen burritos as well, just the white basic, you know, cheese ones. Yeah, yeah. Ah, childhood.

It goes so fast. Good stuff. Brian, I got a, we heard from Dr. Tolbert. Yay. I love it when he calls in, especially as he. Well, I guess he has his own really quality microphone and all that that he doesn't need to use our great voicecast.com app slash. Actually, he does. That's all he used here.

Oh, he did use it. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, he used it here. And then I guess in previous months where he would call, he recorded on his phone and then sent me a file. So kind of the same idea, I guess. But it's always with his phone. And this one is through that system. By the way, glad you brought it up.

Voicecast. Dot app slash TMS, if you want to send us a message. Let's hear what the good doctor says about putting you to sleep during a colonoscopy. Good morning, gents, your friendly neighborhood family doc swinging by to answer some of the questions from yesterday's show. First, contrary to popular belief, most of us medical professionals are human beings like everyone else. So we tolerate or don't tolerate blood and guts and other fun stuff like that, the same as the general population. Personally, I don't have many things that cause me to feel squeamish or queasy, but I had a classmate in medical school that passed out at the first sight of blood. She eventually became a surgeon, so you can overcome that kind of.

of squeamishness, but it's not the first instinct. Our blood is meant to be inside our bodies, and so we want it to stay there. Second, endoscopy is the generic term for any scope that goes inside the tubes of your body. The full name of an upper scope procedure is an esophagopagastro-dudinoscopy, but we call it an eGD for short because that's a lot easier to say. Colenoscopy is another subset of endoscopy, but so are non-gastrointestinal scopes like cystoscopy, which is scoping the bladder, or hystereoscopy, which is endoscopy of the uterus. Finally, the drug that they gave you was likely called Propofal, and it is a very fast acting and very quickly leaving medication, which is why you felt like you recovered a lot faster this time around. The other option is usually a combination of two drugs called Medazalam and fentanyl, and these may take a lot longer to reverse, since the first is a cousin of medications like Valium or Xanax, and the second is fentanyl.

All that being said, I'm glad the procedure went well and that they don't have to do it again for a few years, but if you have any questions, don't hesitate to page me. yeah so it is pro okay now i still don't remember it pro phenol prophenol is that what he said pro pro pro whatever it was that was the stuff and it was a quick in quick out like immediate pretty much and that's what you want i would i would highly recommend that choice if you're not allergic to it or something you know i don't know what everyone's deal is but if you can do the quick thing that'd be great and tell your doctor not to start on the work before it's been injected all right that was the big lesson that's right that's right basically if if you ask me can i start and i say not yet then you better not start yeah but if you ask me if you can start and you don't hear back

for me go for it or check with the guy who injected it and say is it in and then he would say yes doctor it's in then go but he hadn't even he hadn't even squirted it in before dr butthole started working in there it's like come on man that really irritated me um in a very real way uh all right Lori would like a word I love how she spells her name This was in the actual message L-O-R-R-I Two R's, that's cool

I like that It sounds science fictiony or something I like it Anyway, she says two things Western North Carolina gets snow We actually have ski areas Second is vinegars have a mother slash scobie I don't know what that is

What was that the second bit? So we were talking about Kumbucha and the Motherball, the Scobie that sits in there like the self-contained organism of bacteria. No, I can't remember. Scobie was like an acronym or an acronym of what this thing is. Oh, because we were talking about the chunks and how we didn't like it.

A big chunk, right. And basically, vinegar has that too. So, yeah, I've seen this. I've been to, I've gone to a fish and chips place where there was a scoby floating in the vinegar that you dump on your fish and chips. Fowl. And I said, nope. me one from another table or i think i just i just grabbed one from another table i'm

said i'm not using this one did you even though did you assume that chunk was like something four and a gross or whatever i did i did i assume that somebody is a joke dropped a uh uh um um let's let's just let's say snot instead i'm not going to say anything further than that but let you know they drop something in that uh in that deal and uh like nope that somebody's joke of vinegar. I want a fresh, I want a clean bottle. Yeah, somebody did a farmer blow in there, just covered one nostil, I went,

flak. Yeah, I would have felt the same. I didn't know this at all. So if I, I've got vinegar upstairs, is there, is there a glob at the bottom that's feeding the whole thing? Is that the deal? Probably not. I think, um, I think maybe if you have a a bottle of vinegar that's like 15 or 20 years old, maybe.

Oh, it accumulates. Because I feel like that's, doesn't it develop over a long time? I don't see that. I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Everyone check your scope. See what's going on. Right. Check your scobies.

Go check your... What's what they tell you? They say, get your colonoscopy, get your physical, and check your scobie. Right? Check your scobies. Yep. Nobody scobie is, whatever. But so it's mother or scobie?

So the mother, they call it a mother as an alternate term. That's interesting. I assume that just means because it's... It's the thing that creates the bacteria and the rest of it. Okay. It's the, yeah. All right. It's the Metroid mother brain is what it looks like.

Okay, cool. So my phone is the mother of my pocket, because phones are gross. Right. Right? Sure. Okay. Yeah. Think of the most bacterial-ridden thing you've got.

It's the mother. Yeah. Oh, it's got to be, and it is the phone. Yes. Yeah. That makes sense. Oh, someone in the chat asked how my mom is doing all this talk about what she used to make. I meant to think when I was getting coffee.

I was like, oh, I got to make sure to ask Scott how his mom's doing. Doing pretty good. She's still, she's in the thick of the physical therapy stuff every day. you know a bit of a push and a challenge and all that but uh overall not too bad um i think what helps my mom she's very social and so everybody constantly visiting um you know we're going over there two three times before saturday uh which is no small fee it's like you know it's an hour to drive an hour back so we have to kind of schedule around stuff to make it happen but we're we're we're keeping that up and um my cousin caroline who's also a nurse came in for a couple of days and they were

really close growing up or when Caroline's growing up with her aunt Donna, who's my mom. So there's a lot of that going on, which is really, that motivates her, right? So having people around that are constantly bringing her stuff, talking to her, you know, whatever, whatever is working out real well. So she's good. That's the update. She's doing, it's still hard, still uphill, still all that stuff. She's not walking on her own or any of that yet.

But it's, you know, it's going to be a bit of a challenge. It takes time, yeah. I mean, 86 is no small number. no you don't bounce back from that stuff as quickly for sure no I look forward to it don't we both don't we all really um all right one other thing an anonymous text about the nipple talk we had today it's all childhood food nipples and uh colonoscis yeah they're all connected floating things in the vinegar yeah and your mother scobie um the this is what this anonymous thing says it says listening to the nipple talk on monday's tm s it'd be last monday

I don't remember just being, I mean, I guess we mentioned a third nipple, extra nipples. Oh, we were talking about, yeah, like, because I talked about how Harry Stiles has four nipples and Tilda Swinton has three. That's right. That's where the whole thing came from. And we were trying to figure out if anybody here or anyone we knew had it or whatever. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. So this guy says, and thought it would be a good time to say that due to an unfortunate incident with a horsefly, I have one and a half nipples.

I still get quite nervous around them. Is a horsefly big enough to tank off half your nipple? Like, how do you say something like that and not give us any more information? A horseflies are big, okay, I've seen them. I've been bitten by a horse fly. But they went if flew off with half of this person, half of one of this person's nipples? Yeah, that seems crazy. That seems crazy.

This still gets nervous around nipples. That's true. Maybe that's what he meant. Yes, what she meant. Nipples making nervous. An unfortunate incident with a horsefly. What? Oh, what's the unfortunate incident?

Oh, my God. I mean, half a nipple is the implication here, removed because of horsefly. Now, did that happen because bite infection removal or bite removal? Did it fly off with it? Did it hang there? Like, how big was this horse? I got, was this horse fly as big as a freaking horse? Yeah.

I can see a horse, I can see an actual horse ripping your nipple off. An unfortunate incident with a horse, I have one and a half nipples. Oh, no further information needs to be given. That sounds horrible and, you know, let's move on. But with a horse fly, yeah, probably, probably infection or bite or something where it's like, man. I wouldn't put it past a horse. I hate horse flies, by the way. No, they're terrible.

They're horrible. They are pieces of shit. They are. Flying pieces of shit, horse flies. And look, you're not going to, you're going to find him, like for Brian and I, if we go up in the mountains, you're going to find horse flies. And when you do... We don't find horses, but we'll find horseflies. Exactly. I don't know. I'm sure they call them that.

I assume that there's some reason they hang around horses or... I don't know. I don't know why they call them horse flies. I think it's because they're so damn big. And horses are kind of obstinate dicks sometimes. Other flies ride them is why they're called horse flies. Other flies tame them? They tame them. Put rains on them, have races with them. Yeah, they call themselves horse fly whisperers in there in a little world.

But they only do it for a day because horses or flies only live for a day, is my understanding. I don't know. Is that still true? I was always under the impression that flies only lasted 24 hours. Mayflies only live 24 hours, I think, is the deal. I think the regular ones go a little longer?

Maybe houseflies might live longer? I don't know. It does feel like when one gets in the house, it's there a lot longer than... Not in this house. You're quick with the slap, are you? Yeah, 28 days' lifespan of a housefly. Oh. Well, I had that wrong.

All right. I did a comic years ago. Let's see. Life span of a Mayfly. Oh, really? Did you? Yeah, I did a comic years ago where there's a sandwich and there's an old fly, like an old man fly and a little tiny baby fly, a little kid fly on a piece of bread. And the old man fly says, I remember when I was your age at 10 a.m. this morning.

And the joke was that they live and die in the same day. But I didn't realize that they lived for 30 days or so. That's crazy. all right back uh back in the day when i was part of this little indie um zine group that was making this comic um called acme comics drawing and and you know creating little short stories anthology um uh quarterly comic thing called acme comics one of the guys came up with um a one pager of a couple flies sitting on a piece of shit and they're like sitting there and uh one of them lets out a fart and the other one goes do you mind i'm eating here

it's good it's good i'm a fan of the fly sub the idea that flies are having this whole life and this whole thing and they love poop and so you can just do comics and jokes around i'd love it it's fertile ground as they say totally totally absolutely all right another place we find fertile ground is in the uh the the the area of brian done away that's right we're going to play a game we're going to bring brian in one of you will be our fourth caller Who will it be? Well, call me on Discord, or not call me. I won't answer those. But send me a DM on Discord and I'll add you to the call if you are indeed that number caller. The only way you'll know is if you try. And sometimes you miss out. It's okay if you're fifth or third. There's always next time. But today I'm taking the fourth. Here we go. Hey, Brian, Donneway. What are you doing?

No, I. Scott and Brian. Just enjoying this nice, warm weather we have down here in the southern part of the United States. What's your current warm right now? Is it like around 70 degrees? That's Fahrenheit for those who live in the rest of the world. Oh, it's pretty good.

We're not boiling in Celsius, no. No. Okay, we have a fourth caller, but I'm terrified about who this is. Okay, all right. I think Brian knows. Does people need to turn their volume down? They might, or I'll, you know, I'll turn this

person's volume down. Oh, you know what? Wait, one, two, three. No, I apologize. This is not who it is. Sorry, I didn't mean to, there's probably a few people that might think that was them. This is actually, I think, new. Let's see. Josh 3.0. Do we know Josh 3.0?

Oh, Josh 3.0 is isn't that Mr. Raven C.G or no? That's a different Josh. Josh? Yeah, this is me. This is you. Okay. This is Mr. Raven C, TG. Okay, I was only familiar with Josh 1 and 2.0.

And 2.5 was all right. Or she is Mrs. Josh. You know, we, you know, we'll call you guys by the other person's name. Yeah. Yeah, we don't discriminate. Either way is fine. It's good to have you here. How the heck are you?

You doing good? Oh, yeah. We just got done with a huge fulfillment over here. Oh, well, good. To wind down a little bit. Take a deep breath. On behalf of Scott and I, can we just tell you how much we appreciate the games you guys send us every once in a while?

Oh, I love them. Love them. Yeah. That 80s influenced one that's from the artist who did Dice Masters. I can't remember the name of it. Neon. Neon rain. Yeah, it's so cool.

So cool. And it's great. Single player. It's great. Yep. I love a good single player game because no one wants to play with me. So it's great. Yeah.

Well, it's good to have you here. We narrowly, it was almost clear today, by the way. So if anyone wants to know who the fourth I thought was, but I counted wrong. She was actually fifth. So Josh, congratulations. and welcome to this part of the show. Well, Brian Dibitt will now explain what you could win and what me and Brian have to do to help that happen.

Exactly. May the fourth be with you next time, Claire. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics, and well, Scott and Brian are just going to have to sit there and predict the answers that they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, Josh 3.0, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.

And if your team wins, you get a press. package. That includes Call of Juarez and Chroma Squad both courtesy of King Kim Mazabi. Those are not terrible games. They're both great, actually.

I like, yeah, the Callware Gunsinger thing is pretty good, too. Yeah. It's like 20, it's a little older now, but it holds up. That game's freaking rad. Yeah. If you like, like, I don't know, shooters and westerns, it's like this great high octane. Me. First

person shooter thing. Yeah, that's you. I mean, you and I both like these kind of games. So this would be these would be fine additions to your library there, Josh. I'm excited for you. Very cool. Great. Well, let's get to it. See what we got. All right. Let's get in here and go ahead and put your

hands on upon your buzzards and get ready to answer this one. We asked 436 Tadpoolers, name a TV series that you think more than 90% of the Tadpool has seen in its entirety. No.

Firefly. Firefly. Show me firefly. It helps. It's a perfect one for this, right? Because it's only 12 episodes. Yeah, right. Or however many it is, 10, 11, 9, however many.

And everybody in the tadpool has probably seen it. Yeah, it's big time nerd fodder and it's short. So it seems like the good answer. Yep. All right, Josh. That means you've got control of the board. No answers can beat it. So you've got Josh.

and let's get into this business. All right. The goal is to crush Brian Dunaway here today. That's the goal. Hey, hey, hey. Rude. You know, you give him a taste of victory a little bit yesterday and he just can't get, he can't stop. No, it's just going to keep going.

Friendly competition. Josh, do you have a favorite or a thing? You think people may have all? Got to be lost. Oh, yeah, lost is good. I like lost. Let's do that. We have to go.

back. All right. Show me, though, this is my Jack impersonation. Jack saying we have to go back because he's saying that.

Yeah. All right. Let's go out here. Show me lost. Number eight. Oh, that's something good. Yeah.

That'll give us nine points. Scott and Josh up to nine points on that one. All right. I'm going to add to this one. It's going to, this is going to lean fantasy sci-fi. I think Game of Thrones is a safe one.

let's go let's go game of the thrones there okay show me game of the thrones yep yep number two answer on the board taking you guys up to 11 you know maybe people haven't seen house of what no what is the what's the dragon house of the dragon yeah which is really good it's a really good oh i love house of the dragon huge fan did you well i don't know if you can tell us you didn't combine those or did you or can you tell i'll just feel very safe in telling you that not one person said house of the dragon in this poll okay they were all right i feel like that's not a that's not really much help so no um which is a shame because that show is fantastic um yeah okay uh josh over to you what do you think uh another one for me i guess which i hope

everybody's watch follow futurama oh yeah dude oh big fan and that one's also not like see I wouldn't say this Simpsons you say Simpsons and you run the risk although that's the tadpole so who knows but I think Futurama's a way safer bet so let's say that I like it It's a much more manageable size of a number of shows for sure

All right show me Futurama Number seven Taking you guys up to 18 Oh Dunaway we're routing your hair so far You like getting routed They call me the router Do you like gladiator movies let's see

six answers still on the board okay so I'm nervous to veer two I feel like these are big point possibilities but I want to say breaking bad it just feels like something everybody's seen that would have been my next one too

yeah let's go let's go the breaking of the bads and see what happens sure sure all right show me I'm the one who knocks oh wow number three yep very popular 35 but notice

Notice that big jump, by the way, from one Firefly, number one, 128 people, the next one, Game of Thrones, 37. Well, that's because the single season of Firefly is pretty easy to consume, right? You can do that in a weekend easily, yes. I've Dunaway had his way, this would Simon and Simon would be on here, but we're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little orange robot, yeah. Love boat and Fantasy Island would be.

All right, what are we got now? this is getting tricky uh yeah I mean oh the office oh shit of course yeah I was even thinking comedies are like obviously featureama's a comedy but yeah Raven and I watch that like once a year at least do you really do like a binge

binge through the whole thing yeah how do you do during this when Michael Scott leaves is it do you hang in there I I think that there's still some really good stuff in there I think what's his face from Robert California Robert California

Robert California Yeah, that was good There's a lot of really great stuff in there I just, I don't know, I just missed Correll The British woman who was a companion A doctor companion for a while Was really good Yeah

Wasn't Idris Elba in there for a while? Did a couple episodes. Yes, yes Yeah, it's been a while I need to get in there The only anxiety about the office Is the episode where he dumps the chili That's really hard for me

It is the best It's the most awkward, sad And yeah Really hard to watch Um, all right, let's do it. The office. I like it. Show me the office.

Oh, 11, which means you get no points, but you do get another guess. My lord. Uh, I mean, people of a certain generation, MASH should be on here. And I, I don't know how likely that is. But let's try it. Let's try MASH. Sure. Let's do MASH, Brian.

All right. Show me choppers. because it makes you feel any better number 12 oh shit it actually kind of does it really better barely out of the out of the top 11 so that's right this means Brian gets a chance to play finally yeah uh you're you're down by 21 points Brian uh what have you got you finally get to give a guess you didn't even get to like buzz in and you guess earlier so and I feel like some of them could be really sticking points like I could go uh Star Trek next generation and it's like

Like, well, but it's all the Star Trek series, not just the, but it's really kind of a standalone series, each one of them. Sure. And then you're going to have some that got watched more than others, right? Like you're going to, you're more likely to find TNG people than you are Voyager people or Enterprise people. Or Enterprise people. Yeah, definitely Enterprise people. Those people, who are the hell are they even? All right.

I'm going to go out, just to unlock the box that may be some of the answers coming going forward. I'm going to go ahead and say TNGs. All right. Show me Star Trek the next generation. Number four, and it is specifically Star Trek the next generation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That may say something. Hmm.

Interesting. And I can't believe that the Tadpool. And now I'm thinking maybe Scott said it, but he didn't. He didn't say Seinfeld, did he? I can't remember. He didn't. I'll tell you. I would.

I think it's a consumable sitcom. So I'm going to say of the Seinfeld. It's on at least once a day in my house. It is. Yeah. And it's on,

I think there's even a Seinfeld streaming channel. TBS, I think, might be Seinfeld. All Seinfeld all the time now. All right. Show me Seinfeld. Yeah. Number five.

Yeah. Brian's got nine points to Scott and Josh is 21, but he's making his way down the board. Woo! Now I'm not positive. Now I'm feeling a little shaky. I didn't expect that to actually be up there.

How about give me the only thing that's coming to mind is Quantum Leap because I've been watching it. Have you really? Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, Brian's a big Quantum Leap fan. The two Brian's, I like the leap. I like the Leap.

Leap, occasionally I like to go back and watch Quantum Leap and Sliders, I don't know why. They're both not great shows. Sliders is great, but bad, but great. I'm with you. But then I also want to say Doctor Who for some smart asses out there, but I know that's probably not right.

So I'm going to go. All right. I'm going to go with Quantum Leap just because I've been watching it. Sure. Oh, boy. Show me Quantum Leap. No. It's surprising. And maybe it's because there was the newer, the newer, the newer seasons of quantum league people probably

because that not even a mention in the in the tag I didn't watch any of the new ones so there you go there is a thing are you going to as part of your your binge I have not considered it but maybe so maybe so now

I would say at least maybe the first season and just see what you think what they end up doing too before they bailed or do they bail yet I think they build oh they might have done I don't know if it's been renewed. I'm going to take a look really quick.

I thought I read something. I think we would have had another season if they were going to, we would have had a third season if it was going to be. Yeah. NBC canceled after two seasons. Okay. I wonder how that ends.

Hopefully good. They did. Oh, you know, I take that. I remember watching the finale and they did wrap things. So what am I saying? Like, of course it got, you know, they did manage to. They only wanted to.

They only plan for two seasons, is what you're saying? Or they just did a good job. I'm thinking that they... The writing was on the wall. They were like, you know what? I'm thinking that they knew ahead of time and scrambled together a finale. Yeah, I could see that. That happens a lot.

Yes, but it was a satisfying end now that I think about it. All right, let's give my wife and daughters a swing here and say that friends probably on this list. Oh, sure. What do you think, Josh? Do you think that's good, Josh, or no? Yeah. It feels right, right? Maybe, I don't know.

You hear a lot of people in the chat get all mad when we don't talk about friends or sometimes just, I don't know. And then it's just the live people. So who knows if this is everybody who voted? But let's do it. Let's get friends out of here. Okay. All right. Fair enough.

Show me friends. How many of us have them. Let's be friends. That's exactly the order it should be. Seinfeld then friends. Right. Exactly. Must be TV, baby.

The eight answers claimed on the board, including our bonus. So two answers left. Scott's leading, Scott and Josh are leading 27 to 9. Still, still a possibility for Brian to, oh, is it? Yes, he could come out with 28 if Scott whiffs, but then of course. So Josh, you've won either way. This is, you've guaranteed to win either way. Chips, just kidding.

Oh, that's a good one. Sure. What about X-Files? oh that's a good one yeah that feels like that's a notable one yeah i think i like that let's go x files we might get an x for our x files let's see how this goes for our efforts experts show me a big red x files ah shit oh i'm surprised yeah number again number 13 so like mash was number 12 x files and number 13 so there's you know there's method to your madness i don't think we've ever hovered around these answers so closely before like

in the zone. I don't think you like this is the first time I remember you guys like you know if you get 9 and 10 you will have have said the top

13 answers on the board. Yeah, that's why we never We rarely do that. Yep. All right, Dunaway. Baton in your hand, sir.

Low hanging fruit for those who trying to watch a sci-fi series and want to complete it Battlestar Galactica. Oh yeah. BSG baby. Yeah, every time that series launches us like, we're going to do a 10-year run.

No, we ain't. We're going to do seven or whatever they did. All right. All right. Show me Battlestar Galactica. Oh, that should be. Number 17 in the list. That should have been on there.

Yeah. You got a point in my heart. Again, you know, I've watched obviously the entirety of the 2005 reboot, but none. No, I wouldn't say none. but did not watch the first, like all the original series episodes. Yeah. Did you see, you saw the, I guess, the mini series that spawned the new series, right? Back in 2004, 03, whatever was?

Right, the one that was before, yeah, the, the actual series. I guess it's, I guess it's all part of this. It feels like that was pilot or was it not. There was a separate deal. It was separate and wasn't meant to, they weren't going to go on unless it succeeded and then it did well. So like something like that. Oh, that was 03, 04.

Oh, the series started in Ernest N-O-4? Oh, 4, October of 0-4, yeah. What was the one that just had Michelle Forbes spin-off? Well, that was just a movie, right? Oh, I don't remember. Because it was the name of her ship. Oh, the little one-off. Yeah, we're not talking about Caprica,

but the other little one-off like two hours. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was just Michelle Forbes thing. I remember liking it. I remember that. Yeah, I did too. I like all that shit. Okay.

Two answers still on the board, Josh and Scott, it is up to you. We could go, we could go, Star Wars makes me nervous. And we're playing with house money at this point. That's true. You've won the game, yeah. That's a really good point. Sopranos is another one. Oh, hell yeah.

Oh, that's a good. Oh, yeah, I didn't think of that. I watched my fourth watch through last year. I love that, Joe. So let's do it. Supranos. All right. show me woke up this morning

got my shirt three strikes soprano is another one not even on the list not even in the in the yeah I'm surprised by that everybody surprises me

because it was such a you know such a monumental series and yeah might be the best series of all time drama anyway so Brian you've got two answers left on the board you've got one strike

so don't get a strike get some guesses here and you know maybe sweep the board and take the win but still get Josh the games sweep the leg gotcha gotcha got you gotcha um

I'm gonna have to go because sometimes I mean to watch again Buffy the Vampires Oh that's a good one Especially Michelle Tractenberg recently passed I'll score me to do this too so I'm gonna say Buffy just because I want to

I'm sorry you didn't mean to push that Yeah no that's great let's do it I was trying to find sweep the leg, but I couldn't find sweep the leg, but go ahead. Oh, okay. All right. Show me Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the win.

Well, for the loss. Yeah. Yeah, third strike. That's a game. Yeah, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was on the list. Number two tied for 29. Only one person actually gave the answer to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Let's look at these last two missing titles.

Number nine, it looked like for a while, you guys, we're going to go down the Star Trek route. original series I had to cut and then finally the the Star Wars series the most popular

shit I almost did it go ahead I almost suggested this I don't know I just felt like Star Wars are going to get the shaft here but it's good to see it yeah just

continuing down the list community Stranger Things WandaVision Avatar the Last Airbender Doctor Who was number 19 you were talking about that one. That's a lot of episodes to watch to commit to.

Ted Lassau, Andor, Baywatch, Baywatch. Really? Big Bang Theory, Bob's Burgers, Cheers, Frazier, Stargate, Twin Peaks, and then the first alphabetically of our answers that just have one person submitting them, the A-Team. Ah, perfect. Although, I don't know. I like the A-Team a lot, so does Dunaway.

I think we give it an honorary nod. Thank you for that reference. Or for you. You can have my share. Well, that's really good news, because what it means now is this. Congratulations. Brian, what did Josh 3.0 win? Josh wins, call of Juarez and Chroma Squad. Again, thanks to King Kimizabi for sending us these games.

And think of it this way. Josh is so just sick of looking at board games and physical stuff. Now he's got a couple new digital things to look at. Play something digital for a while. Maybe there's good stuff in digital. Yeah. And also, I think you can up your version to, be 3.5 after this. Josh, 3.5, everybody. Oh, nice. Release candidate, 3.5. I like that a lot.

That's right. Josh, anything you want to say about your massive win today? I'd like to thank the Academy. Oh. They're all a bunch of jerks, the Academy. Big jerks. Say hi to your significant other who is awesome, and so are you. Have a fantastic time, and we'll see you soon. Hey, Dunaway. Oh, hey, Scott. This week, you and I, together at last. Yeah. Yeah, fine. Yeah, no, we're going to do, we're doing another episode of, uh, of, uh, uh, the Play Retro show. We talk about old video games. Like Zaxon.

Zaxon. Oh, we're going to get our Zaxon on this week. Heading back to the arcade. Maybe we're going to look at some of those crappy ports, uh, like the one from the Atari 2600. But hey, the arcade game was good at least, right? Yeah, Zaxon was awesome. Sudo 3D. It was like kind of blowing our minds back then.

It was really cool. yeah it hit a lot of first was the first uh first arcade game that had a commercial so we finally have a good commercial to play at the top of the show that's gonna be good yeah yeah i know it was a very kind of rare back then so it was actually nice to get something like that it was the first one according to some sources yeah someone on the internet thinks it yeah anyway that'll be 130 mountain time friday if you want to watch us live or just get the podcast wherever you want and whenever you want at frogpants dot com slash play retro or wherever you get your shows done away kiss our Buts.

Wow. We got him. All right. We're taking a break. When we come back from this break, we will spend time with Tom Merritt, talk a little tech. After that, recommendals with Nicole and Randy. More on the way.

So stick around. Brian, what's the song we're playing? Well, we've got, you know, Bob Dylan, we've got Jacob Dylan, his son. What about Mag Dylan? Well, Mag Dylan is a hardcore, I'm sorry, hard rock metalcore band that has absolutely nothing to do with those first two people.

people I mentioned. They are, they've just released their brand new single, which is called Back Through the Door. You're going to hear it in a second. Their album, which is called People Pleaser, you got to wait a while on this one. July 3rd of this year is when you're going to get the rest of the album, but this one will tide you over for, for sure. Or, or and, I should say, you can go see these guys as they open for Seven Dust at Peabody's

Nightclub in Virginia Beach, Virginia on March 22nd, so go check them out. called Meg Dillon. Here is Back Through the Door. Anointed and my life's betrayed I never thought that you were falling and updated Tell me And every love you said in me The empathy, the sympathy is gone

But I refuse to let you go You never walked back through the door I don't know what happened, oh, I know what happened, oh, I understand you, you were supposed to walk this crazy road with us. I keep seeing glimpses of the fun we had back then, you're at the bottom now, I tried to help. I tried to help. you know and every love you sit in me the empathy the sympathy is gone but i refuse to let you go you never walked back through the door love you you have to try and save yourself we are trying to reach you we are trying to reach you the number one we never feel the single thing is gone but now we refuse to let you go

You never walked back through the door The number-in-law, you see you away He never feed He said the plane is going When I have used to let you go You never walked Back through the door Them clothes got laundry

their numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones I have your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. You enjoyed that. You're damned right. And we're back. And we're back. Who was that one more time? That was Magdillon, spelled with two G's, but D-Y-L-L-N, just like Bob and Jacob. A brand-new single called Back Through the Door in advance of their upcoming album people please are coming out this summer but uh enjoy your music from magd Dylan nice

all right something to fill your ear holes with until we have another banger middle in the arundian all right let's get tom merritt all up in it isn't technology wonderful it sure is but it's better when tom merritt's here to talk about it uh tom merritt welcome back to the program how are you sir oh i'm okay why won't my monitor go i'm okay don't worry about me Oh, yeah, you got the monitor thing. Our divider glass is stuck between the front of the limousine and the back. We can't have our privacy. It's like an episode.

Can you lower this? It's like an episode of Severance. You're just kind of looking over at me in Severance. Like, hi, I'm Zach Cherry. Oh, there you go. You did it. There we go. Yeah, nice.

I just needed to knock the speaker off the table. Was there a can of Pillsbury Wiener wrap keeping the monitor from lowering all the rest of the way down? No, definitely not. Hey, Tom Merritt. It's good to have you here. That was a callback, everybody. Yeah, that was a callback. Hey, you're great, and we're happy to have you here.

I don't know if we've ever told you that, but you're great. You are great. You are great. Oh, really? Yeah, we do. You guys mean that? Yeah, we do. We totally mean that. It's so much so that I'm going to call me from Greenville, Illinois.

From Greenville, Illinois. Whose dad made a soda that same, the same name as the construction company up the road? Anyway, that's the old thing between Tom and I. It wasn't a soda. Oh, what was it? What was it? Ego is great for your ego. It was a diet drink in the 70s, actually late 60s.

But it wasn't carbonated or anything? It was just like a... No, no. It just tastes like pediolite, really. That's funny. So his dad makes this, invents this drink. He was a food scientist guy. And Tom comes out here for some trip.

I don't remember what we were doing. And immediately there's all these signs because we have this big construction company building homes and townhouse is called Sego. It's the exact same name. And Tom's like, oh, that's like that drink my dad invented. And I remember the time going, I'm sorry, what? Can you explain this?

How have we not heard this? Yeah, it was a really weird, weird moment for us. The two big diet foods he worked on was Sego, Diet Drink, Look It Up. It was like a big diet drink and Spoon Up, which was like Diet Pudding. Ooh. Wow. Certainly, certainly resting on the greatness of those names. Yeah.

Obviously, two Titanic brands that have endured because of, uh, Terrific. I loved Spoon Up. It was really good. It was it. It just tasted like Hunt's, you know, pudding. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I thought you were going to say ketchup for some reason, not only. Kinds.

It tastes. I mean, really, ketchup is just tomato pudding. Yeah, just tomato pudding with a little sugar in it. That's right. Well, anyway. It's already sugar and ketchup. Just to add a little more. You got yourself a problem.

That's right. Well, on that, as we swing from food to technology to actual, you know, modern day technology. That's what Tom does every day. Scouring the web and the world. For the latest and greatest into tech news and the whatnot and daily tech news live comes up at 2 a.m. or 2 a.m. 2 p.m. today. 2.m. for someone, I suppose. That's right. What's on docket for today? What are we covering? So Niantic made two big announcements today. I imagine you might have heard of one of them, which is that they're selling their games division to Scoply. Scoply is owned by a Saudi Arabian company. It makes Monopoly

Go, Star Trek Fleet Command, Marvel Strike Force, and it will now also be making Pokemon Go, Picman Bloom, Monster Hunter Now, and if you're a Pokemon Go fan, which I know you are Ibitt, they will also be getting Campfire and Wayfar, the

two companion apps. So all of that goes to Scoply. Yeah. We knew about the Bayo, well, I knew about the bio, and I knew that it was... This was coming. Now it's both boards have approved and it goes to regulatory approval. Okay, so it's a done deal. It's no longer, I thought they were, we knew they were working on this, but now it's official and they've released a press release and, and that,

so they expect the transaction to close by the end of the year. Niantic itself is keeping, this is the one thing I couldn't find in the rumors before, it is keeping ingress and perid up. So if you are an ingress player, that will still be part of Niantic, but Niantic is spinning out all of its, uh, its tech stack into Niantic. spatial. That probably won't mean a lot in your day-to-day life when you're playing ingress, but it's something to know because if something down the road, you're like, wait, what's niantic spatial? They've spun out everything they didn't sell to Skoply, basically, as niantic spatial, which is super smart because they work on the visual positioning system

and the geospatial models that a lot of people are going to want to use. And in fact, scoply is going to get a share in Niantic Spatial as a part of this deal. So I assume they will not only continue to use it for Pokemon Go, but they might use it for other games they own as well. And as augmented reality potentially becomes more widespread, Niantic Spatial, will be able to say, we can provide the map of the world for you. And not just for games, for all kinds of things. I would have been, I'm a little shocked they didn't hang on to Pokemon Go as the flagship thing and just keeping Niantic instead, just because it seems like that's the big moneymaker. But maybe, I don't know, maybe it's not as much anymore, right? That's the thing, is they have had to do layoffs.

And what they identified, and I think wisely, is they are a tech company, not a games company. So giving Pokemon Go, which is successful, it has huge usership to someone who knows games better will increase the success of Pokemon Go, while they will keep doing what they're good at, what they're best at, let's put it that way, because there's a lot of good people working there on Pokemon Go. They're now Scoply employees, or they will be. they will keep working on the tech stack which they know they can monetize that they believe more in their chops as a leadership in doing that and letting a game company like Scoply

which is very successful in other arenas handle Pokemon Goh. I guess the question I had around this when I first started hearing about it now that we know it's gone through with an industry rife with layoffs recently in the last couple of years, especially recently is you kind of alluded to some

these people moving over. Do we know if they're doing any kind of wipeouts of positions or layoffs of any kind? I mean, they are not, they are moving the entire teams. So there, there is not a like, we're laying people off as we move. But also, usually you wait until after the transaction to lay people off. So I'm not going to say scoply won't lay anybody off. Anytime there's an acquisition, you usually find redundancies. That's why in Europe, they're called redundancies. Because you're like, oh, we don't need two people doing the same job. And so there may be some people who were the only people doing the job under Niantic, who won't be necessary under scoply.

So expect there to be some layoffs in the Pokemon Go, I don't know, the former Niantic game area. I don't know that they will be intense because Niantic had already done layoffs in this division. So I feel like it's pretty trim. if I had to guess it would be like yeah they might lay off a few people but you won't see big numbers I will I'm gonna guess so a while back you had this idea for a Marvel game right where you find Spider-Man villains take pictures of them or however the heck of yeah like it's basically j Jonah Jameson says you on an AR quest to take pictures get me pictures of spider-man or any super you know

superhero so now I actually think this makes not that that's 100% happening but there is an increased percentage chance that that could happen because now that technology is licensable to, from Niantic to whoever wants to license it and use it for their project. A lot easier for it to happen now. Sure. Yeah. So that's kind of, you know. And Scoply's going to have first crack at this stuff because they have a stake in Niantic

spatial. They have this relationship from acquiring Pokemon Go. They have in-house expertise on implementing these maps. So look for Scoply's stuff, either existing or new stuff, to also incorporate that as well, I think. Very nice. watch for, and then if you have a bottle of vinegar, there's a little scoply at the bottom. Oh, I'm sorry, that's a scobel.

It's a scobel. Scobie. Scobie, sorry. Scobel units. Yeah, Robert Scoble. At the bottom of every vinegar bottle. Scobie at the bottle of your vinegar. There's a little Robert Scobble in all of us, really. Well, this is great. Did he really? Did you recover entirely from

that experience? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was at South by Southwest. It was rather busy. He and Wolf Blitzer are probably the two most famous people to step on my foot. Dang. I mean, what's the, what's the total quantity

that we're looking at? Like quantity of foot? A famous people who have stepped on my foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I want to know what kind of, yeah, okay. I want to know what kind of numbers

we're dealing with here. Yeah, I feel like there was a third, but I don't remember who it was. So obviously not that famous. As professional podcasters, all three of us been doing this for nigh on 20 years, 50 years of our life or so, um i'm going to say a thing that's vague one of the we've all had our worst experience in podcasting

probably that we could point to and say oh this was a bad day or whatever one of the worst days of my podcasting life happened with robert scobel there and it wasn't his fault it had nothing to do with him so i'm not besmirching robert scowball he just happened to be he just happened to be on the thing that i was on we were on a thing together and it was the worst worst, worst thing I ever had happened to me on the air. It was terrible. So it may have been the worst thing to happen to him, too. That might have been. Who knows? You know how he took it out? He stepped on your foot on purpose, just to get rid of all that anger.

Peter Mayhew almost stepped on. Yeah, he probably did. Peter Mayhew almost stepped on Nicole and I at Dragon Khan because he was what we were sitting on the floor. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. We were sitting on the floor and he walked through and really came close to is stepping on Nicole and I. Look, when you guys... Did you go, whoa. No, we just sat back and left the wiki win. Yeah.

When you guys accidentally brush up against Mitt Romney's crotch, let me know. All right, because that was the worst thing. Oh, really? The worst butt brush with fame I've ever had. I once shook the governor of Illinois's sandwich. Oh, hold on. We've buried the headline today. Forget about Neantic.

What happened with the sandwich? How do you shake a person's sandwich? I think I was six or seven years old at the Bonn County Fair and Governor Jim Thompson was in the parade. And my dad said, go shake his hand. So I just, you know, being seven years old, I just ran up and grabbed his hand and shook it. I didn't ask. And he was holding a sandwich in his hand. And my parents were making fun of me after that.

Like, you shook his sandwich, not his hand. I love that. You shook the governor's sandwich. Oh, my hell. Well, that's great to know. Also, what else is great to know today at 2 p.m. We'll be meeting up again and having a great time with a live, DTNS Live, fantastic show. I get to be on on Wednesday is always fun.

Tom, anything else going on there or anywhere that you want to mention? I don't know. I bet, should we tell them? Do it. Yeah, let's tell them. Let's tell them. They might have already heard about this. Let's tell them anyway.

Some of you have already heard about this because we talked about it in the discords, both DTNS and TMS discords. But we're launching daily music headlines. in a couple of weeks, so in two weeks. And the idea is to do what we do for daily tech headlines, but for music, and no better person to host that than Mr. Brian Ibbett. Oh, stop you. I couldn't find anyone else to host it, but by it.

Asked around, it took forever. It's like, oh, let's just give it to it. No, man, this, we were actually, I was having a conversation on a text message right about something else. And Ibbott's like, well, if you ever want to launch a music show, let me know and I'm like that's a genius idea let's do that he and Hammond put it together over the weekend we have a demo episode up now with demo art by the way so so that art will change but you can find it at daily music headlines.com and the idea is five minutes a day you can

just you know grab grab what's going on in the music world if you're someone who's like you know I want to keep track of the things outside my bubble and just kind of know what's going on that's the idea yeah check it out it's going to be rad, I think it's a great idea. And do not let, don't let the AI, temporary AI art fooling fool you. There's some really cool art coming. And fool a couple people, I'll say that. Yeah, some people are worried about it.

I don't know how I feel about the use of AI in that logo. Yeah, it was like, no, no, no, read the part where Brian said temporary. Just read that part. Exactly. And the other thing was, it's like, oh, so it's very clearly AI. Like everyone could recognize that. It didn't say it was AI on it. All you have to do is say,

give me a podcast, give me some album art for a podcast. Oh, well, it must have a microphone in the center. Yeah. And weird in colors. Yeah, that's the rule. Well, Tom, it's great to having you on, as always. Ace Detect on all the socials, everybody, so go look for him there. Always a good

conversation. Tom, Merritt, have a fantastic day, and we'll see you too. Bye now. Thanks, yeah. I guess I'll see him at 1.30. Oh, I hung up on I hung up on everybody, but hold on okay let's reenter

let's reenter the chat oh now scouts back okay good the hell that I do there oh I hung up you know what it is Discord when I talked for a second we caught up on things UI or Discord changed their

UI and so I know now there's like seven buttons up there This thing right here was not there before I don't know what the hell I'm looking at but what's the what's the blaring megaphone

I think oh you've even got oh because you're hosting this thing so that's why you've got extra dots It says if I click it. Oh, I can play a sound in here. Okay, I'll play a sound. Let's see what happens. That's a duck.

Do you have rut ro raggy? I have rut ro raggy. Oh, these are. So basically, they're like audio. Ro ro raggy. Yeah, that's weird. Where do these come from? Uh-huh.

Stop. All right. Oh, my gosh. It won't end. Okay. Foo. So they're tied to servers. So, like, I've actually got, uh, this one from Aaliyak to Est.

Oh, that's the same one. Yeah. It's the one I got. Don't click that multiple times. Okay. That's why. Yeah, they do it like specialized server emotes. They're specialized sounds, I guess.

Sounds like the joke. Oh, that's great. It does. Oh, that's great. Yeah. No, already did that one. They need a stop button. They don't give you a stop button.

I know. They need to like press once to start. It press once. to stop it for a second to stop it Sorry, click that by accident Anyway, thanks to Discord Makes me cry about it Oh man, that sound like

That sounded like Fletcher, I'm thinking a cry That's weird And then the little game Think is that little game tab now I guess you can play little games of people So it's like Oh is that the, that's that one right there Oh yeah, like

Crunker Royale Yeah, I don't want to I don't know what that is But maybe I don't want to What do you think the quiz one is? We could try that sometimes Quiz Planet. It's new, whatever it is.

Yeah, it seems okay, I guess. Maybe you look at that. Let's look at that after we close out the show. After we take our selfie, we'll just... Yeah, you know what? We'll try. We'll give it a shot and see what it is. I like that.

All right. Well, on that note, let's add more people to the call. Let's get Randy in. Let's get Nicole in. Let's see if Randy yells at me for moving all of our film sack movies around to slip in Craven the Hunter. Craving the Hunter. Got to do it while. It's hot, Brian.

You've got to strike that eye. Exactly. I want to watch it before everybody tells me about it. Yeah, it's exactly right. Well, what do you recommend? That music means it's time for us to recommend stuff we've seen on streaming services. We do it with a couple of our pals. Let's welcome to the program, Nicole Spagg.

Hello. You're muted. Mark! Oh, hi. You're back now. Can you hear you now? Can you hear me? Yes.

You're very quiet, but I can turn you up on my side. Let's see. Are you there? Can you hear us? I don't think she can hear us Can you hear us? Can you hear us? Can you hear us? Yeah, can you hear us? Can you hear us? I can hear you just fine. Oh, good. Okay. Well, we can all hear each other now. Are my levels low? You're good enough. Scott fixed it so you're fine. Yeah, I cranked you up. You're all turned up now.

Crick me up, baby. Yeah, crank me up, baby! Actually, I have you cranked to 127. That's just how cool you are. Can I just say how happy I am to be here the day after an infusion? and not feel like total dog crap. Yeah. We're glad about that, too. That's great. Nobody wants to feel like total dog crap, no matter the circumstances,

but I'm glad it worked. That's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put a little sugar in there this time or whatever they did for you. I got a new nurse, and he's a complete nerd, and we watched D&D.

And it was awesome. That's great. Oh, my God. And we also watched my recommendal, so. Oh, good. Okay. Yeah. Watching a recommendal with your nurse.

That's amazing. All right. Look for that in the title. Yeah. More on that soon. Also with us today, Randy Jordan. Hello, Randy. Good morning, morning stream.

Before I say anything else, I insist that you all wish a happy birthday to Samantha Jane. Samantha Jay. Absolutely. It is March the 12th. Yeah. Very important day. Yeah. Happy birthday, SJ.

Facebook told me, and I try to always like, when I'm like, add something, because I'm like, I can't just do But Facebook tells me I have to put more in it. So I saw that. It's also the fifth anniversary of her birthday happening the day before everybody locked themselves indoors. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's just like, it's one of those weird things. I'm so glad that everybody locked themselves inside the day after her birthday five years ago.

Because it just means that we're, you know, like we have this memory of her birthday being the last true great, like going out for dinner. and this kind of thing. That's great. I remember that too. We had an earthquake the night of that. So I think that would be tomorrow night. We had an earthquake and it freaked us. I thought the world.

I was like, really a pandemic then an earthquake? Please don't tell me all the Old Testament shit was real because we're screwed. It wasn't just people bashing pants together on their patios? No. No, it was not. He had a thing where we would howl at a... Yeah, 10 o'clock or 9 o'clock or banged pans together. Because that's when the nurse...

and the doctors got off and everybody would go outside and howl. Because if there's something that nurses and doctors love, it's howling. It was the weirdest damn thing. God, it was so weird. It was weird. But we didn't know what else to do. Nobody knew what to do. We were just all trying to figure out.

Still trying to, you know, understand what the hell we were doing then. All right. Well, let's get to it. We got Brian clips to start with, or clip, I should say. Brian, let's set this up and give the people what the one. And Nicole, really quick, you remember when Peter May. Mayhew nearly stepped on us at Dragon Con. What?

Oh, wow. All right. Well, maybe I remember this. Maybe it was just me. We were sitting on the floor at Dragon Con, Peter Mayhew, Chewbacca, walking through to get to artist or a signature. Okay. I'm sorry. My epilepsy has gotten rid of a lot of my memories apparently.

That's one that's easy to block out. Oh, maybe it was. I've spent the last 10 minutes. thinking about it. And I think the worst ever for me was when Kurt Schilling knocked me down at Blisscon because he was wearing

a freaking like a hard garter. Like he had had some kind of internal surgery or something. I remember this. And he was wearing this like really hard armored garter belt around his middle. And he was like, it was like

a suit of armor under his clothes. And he knocked me down and it hurt. bad like that guy i almost got knocked over by uh um righteous oh john goodman john goodman oh really john goodman yeah we were in i was in dallas airport and he was on a mission and i looked up and i was like oh shit and i moved and i was like oh shit that's john goodman that almost took me out you should have said sorry about that big dan something up big dan you should have said and then walked away the other way but it was when he was that was that was like like rosy i mean it was it was like early 2000s pre pre pre ozempic uh john yeah yeah yeah yeah

sorry sorry i didn't mean to take over the company it's all no no i was my fault i der i derailed thinking i would just get a one word answer about peter mayhew but i don't remember did it really happen yes honestly you could tell me anything and i would i would like if you say so Nicole do you remember that nerdtacular where you and i blew up a toilet with some c4 Do you remember that? I totally remember that. Well done. No, I don't remember that at all either.

I thought I did that after the latte that I had. Anyway, let's get to my pick. You're going to hear a president meeting his Secret Service agent, head of Secret Service, for the first time. A first timer. All right. I'm down with this. Oh, I'm in the wrong place for your file.

Sorry, everybody. Here it is right here. Here you go. Well, I have a seat. I assume you know why you're here. I have a sense, sir. Can I get you water, soda, anything? I'm fine, sir.

Well, I'm going to have a drink. Little hair of the dog. Don't worry, this is not an everyday thing. He had quite a night last night. Congratulations, sir. Yeah. The other guy literally had the IQ of a golden doodle. An incumbent president barely beats a golden doodle.

I wouldn't say that's exactly my one shining moment. All right. Cards on the table. I beat a golden doodle, so it looks like I got the gig for another four years until I get to retire somewhere beautiful and lie on a pool float the rest of my days. Now, keep in mind, I'll be an ex-president

in just my early 50s. So I'm going to find the biggest mansion I can. I'm going to fill it with the best booze and the best art available, and I'm going to spend four to five decades. decades on that pool float. Unless, of course, somebody shoots me first. I'm looking for someone to make sure I don't get shot so I can make it to that pool float. Do you follow? I follow.

Jesus Christ, this is like the worst first date I've ever had. Come on. Ask me a question, will you? Sounds like Cyclops to me. That is Cyclops. That's James Marsden and Sterling K. Brown. Don't let James Marsden use your hotel room toilet. Stirling, K. Brown, plays Xavier Collins, the lead Secret Service agent protecting the president, and James Marsden is there as President Cal Bradford in a show called Paradise. Nice. That's all I can tell you about this show. Nicole, go ahead.

No, I'm kidding. Actually, I was just noting that last year, someone recommended unfrosted. Two years ago, you recommended jury duty. Three years ago, it was the last season of Westworld. What is up with James Marsden getting? everything he does. Yeah, yeah. Is recommendal worthy because he's so damn good.

I mean, he's just great. I love him, dude. He'll even show, you know, he's in those Sonic movies. He's good in those. He's great and everything. He's actually really good in those Sonic movies. I know. Yeah, it's totally true.

I don't know what we're comparing against, but okay. You don't like, you're not a fan of the James Marston? Tell us more. He's okay. He's okay. All right. He's okay. Give me a scale.

Who's better? than okay versus James Morrison. Well, she's going to list like 48 people. Just give me. I'm going to, yeah, you know, it's just he's, he's like the guy that probably gets asked about 10 down from the list of other actors. Oh, oh, I get it.

He gets these roles because all of these, all of these better guys like turn it down. Yes. Oh, I really need you to look at IMDV. Here's the list of people who were previously considered for the role before James Marsden. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. Does this go back to his performance in Enchanted?

I'm not saying I'm not saying I didn't like him. I will say he was a pretty disappointing Cyclops, but Cyclops was always a little bit of a milk toast anyway. So having James Farsden kind of play. Plus it just kind of, they second tiered that character in that movie, first movie. They really did. Like he does these weird, like the movies are fine. But like, do you know what I'm talking about hop? No.

No. I don't know what happens. It's an Easter Bunny movie. Yeah. And there's like an AI Easter Bunny and R-CGI Easter Bunny. And he's like, it's like Sonic, but with a bunny. Oh, I've never heard of Hop. So, hey, get that on a list, somebody.

Right down the house. That's your Easter movie. I just moved Craven down the list one. And we're going to. I just want to talk about Paradise because I, I almost demanded to, I almost demanded to co-recommendal it with you, started watching it the day it premiered, and I think

you can spoiler-free compare it to other TV series. There's one in particular that I feel like if I compare it to... Don't say that. I know what you're saying. Yes. A little four-letter word TV series that I can compare it to. I'm not going to do that one. Like the general vibe of

shows like Severance or fallout or what have you, like the modern the modern like a drama like almost it's not a fantasy drama but it does have elements of here's the way I was thinking about giving it a very spoiler free because obviously you know the way because we're being so cagey about talking about it obviously um it's if if it was clear cut as Sterling K. Brown is a secret service agent

hired to protect the president if I if I if it was just that then I would have a lot more to talk about because of that. But because I have to stop there, that should give you an indication that that is not just what this is about. If I compare it to, you know, I'm trying to get the vibe down, like three body problem, that kind of vibe. Yeah, that's a good comparison, yes. I'm intrigued.

I didn't know any of this. I thought it was just like a thriller. Uh-huh. And that's, and that's a good way to go into it because that's what, that's all. I thought it was going into it. And so don't read up anything about it. Don't, don't look at, you know, Wikipedia. Don't look at reviews.

Don't look anything like that. They are social media. Well, it's already, it's already wrapped. So now it feels pretty safe to social media. But currently this thing is 80% on Rotten Tomatoes or at least what it's saying here on the, I can look at the Wikipedia article because I finished the first season. But here's, here's the great thing. Watch the first episode and, and you will 100% know whether or not you want to continue

watching this show. And I will say that 99% of the people who watch the first episode will immediately binge the second, third, fourth, et cetera. I'm all, I want to see this pretty bad. It really isn't one that needs three episodes. for you to understand. Like, they, almost the first half of the first episode is the, is the layout for the rest of the series.

Sure. Reviewing well. Man, people love this. Can we talk about Julianne Nicholson? Where has she been all our lives? Yeah, no kidding. So you know her as, um, so Paradise again is the name of the show. Um, Julianne Nicholson, you know from Mare of Easttown.

She's Kate Winslet's friend. Oh, she's in the outside. I love her, dude. She's great. She is really good. and again crazy compelling boardwalk empire um uh um i tanya she's she's just so so freaking good um love her and she's really good in this too she's she has a she has a complex character who has a lot for you to discover about her and the way she plays it like she's also trying to

keep the other people around her from discovering things about her and she's just really good at this at this mystery yeah she's awesome dude is the i think this is her in the new thing isn't it this is her with the short hair in the new yes it is that is uh what she looks like in this she's awesome yeah love her all right cool i dude you have me totally intrigued anything else you can say without a spoil on there uh you know not really uh yeah i mean basically it's once i will somebody somebody somebody was really oh here's what i can tell you about it um in every episode, you'll hear a song, the original version of a song, and then that episode will close with a really cool cover of that song.

And the orchestrated notes all throughout the episode. Yes. They will have these theme and variations of music all throughout the episode. For example, this is what you're talking. The song I played on Friday, the cover of Poisons, Every Rose has its thorn by Poison. By Poison? Is it Poison put out? The Poison song called Every Rose.

has its thorn covered by Wendy Wang but originally by poison for those I don't know why we're doing that Brian clarified the air as the song started during the song we insert the song later for quality and then nobody heard Brian correct himself so they all have been writing in saying Brian that wasn't guns and roses and he knows exactly and the songs are super on the nose yeah they are they really are yeah this whole series starts with the Phil Collins song another day in paradise and the name of the series is paradise and you're just like come on but it works it totally works exactly that you know it's like oh oh i see okay i see so there you go it's on hulu it's uh eight episodes and be prepared to uh forego sleep forego meals so that you can

watch all eight episodes one right after another uh again hulu or disney plus if you've got the package or whatever it is, but it's called Paradise. Nice. I'm all in on this. I've heard you, you've been teasing it for, you know, a week or more. Basically, after I watched the first episode, I said, I am, unless they really screw this up, this is going to be a recommendal that I'm going to be talking about for a long time. There were moments. There were moments when I was like, this could play wrong.

This could go terribly. I could stop watching if they don't do this right, and they always nailed it. All right. Well, looks awesome. Nicole, the, the mic is yours. What are we watching this week with you? What do we got? All right.

So I sent two clips. The first one's a little bit too graphic, even though, whatever. Play some of the second clip. All right. Just because I want to laugh. And I'll just say, I enjoyed this movie immensely. It is chaotic as hell. Mm-hmm.

But that's, I really feel what it was like the first, the very, very first time this happened. All right. Here we go. Here's your clip. Okay, quiet please. Work stops now. We're holding for a sound check. Who wants to do the sound check? Garrett, don't you know a song? Who? Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gone.

Get me a shotgun and kill all the white as I see. I'm going to get me a shotgun and kill all the white as I see. When I kill all the whiteies I see, then white he won't bother me. Get me a shotgun and kill all the white as I see. I'm going to get me a shotgun and kill all the white as I see. He'll be a shot going to kill all the white as I see That's great.

That's great. Lamorn Morris. Yeah, from New Girl. That's your Winston from New Girl. Right. He was in Fargo lesson. Randy corrected me. This is just called Saturday Night, not Saturday Night Live.

I was like, Saturday Live. It was two in the morning when I wrote this. But this is, so the debut of Saturday Night Live was October 11, 1975. I had to look it up. I was born in 76. So, and this was groundbreaking. I had no idea. what it took to get this show on the air.

And basically what it was, the only reason it got on the air and was approved is because they were trying to get Carson, Johnny Carson, to run reruns. And they wanted to pick a show that they thought would fail. And this is the basically kind of the dramatization of Dan Aykroyd,

Bill Murray, Gilda Radner, John Belushi. I didn't realize Billy Crystal. Like, you get some really, really cool insight into how the show came about, how the show to me. Lauren Michaels, I have such an appreciation for him now. Oh, my God. Yeah. Holy crap.

So, yeah, when you watch this, it is chaotic because live TV is chaotic. And the fact that they attempted this, and there's a whole scene with the character of Milton Burrell. I played by J.K. Simmons, by the way. Oh, my God. I saw that scene. The guy that they got to play Chevy Chase was so good as Chevy Chase. That's your riddler from the old Gotham TV series. Oh, really?

The guy who plays Chevy Chase, yeah. So this is on Netflix, by the way, I didn't, I didn't mention where it was streaming. But you heard Garrett, and he was the only black cast member, and you see a lot of this internal dialogue going, he's like, why the hell am I here? Like, I studied at Juilliard and like this misfit of people kind of trying to come together. and when it all like happens the magic that Saturday Night Live and I've even though I was born 76 I've been watching Saturday Night Live as I mean I used to stay up I don't know I was probably in like grade school and I would stay up and I'd laugh at jokes I had no idea what they were right right yeah you know one of my favorite ones that kind of creep me out was when Jaws was

popular and was Candy Graham Oh yeah Lanjar Oh yeah Langer And so like And of course

you know The infamous Julia Child where she Where Dan Ayckroyd's cuts is his And like all of these are very memorable

scenes for me And I've had such a strong love of Saturday Night Live for such a long time and I have been through almost every single cast

like reset And every single time, this is the worst cast Saturday Night Live has ever had. This is the work. I'm like, what are you talking? I remember them saying that when Mike Myers was in the cast and Chris Farley. And like, I mean, granted, there was a, there was a season that the cast was really, really bad. And Eddie Murphy pretty much carried that season. Right.

Exactly. Those ever saw, the Eversall years. are not looked upon fondly by fans. The yeah, the dude who plays Lauren is that guy who was, who played Steven Spielberg, sort of in the Fablemans. I haven't seen

the Fableman's. He's really good. Like, it is a great cast. Hammond made me watch this thing, this um, uh, apocalypse, zombie apocalypse musical,

high school musical, um, called, uh, Anna versus the Apocalypse, Anna and the Apocalypse, which is really good, got her a Scottish BAFTA. Ella Hunt plays, she's in the lead of this apocalypse movie, but she's also Gilda Radner in this. She is so freaking good as well. Like, she's, I was initially, I was initially annoyed that the actors in this movie didn't look exactly like the people that they were playing. But you get over it, I think.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Totally. Blushy, his hair was a little too poofy for me. I was actually going to say, what is the star? I was like, he had to, you know, if you look at a side-by-side comparison of the original cast, Belushi, his hair is, I mean, it's curly, but it's not. There are some, there's some actors in this thing.

I feel like they get spot on. I think, he looks a lot like Volusci. You got to, you got to, you got to, admit it. It totally does. Look at his face. And I think, you know, Cody Michael, Cody Michael Smith, Corey Michael Smith. That's Chevy Chase.

As Chevy Chase. Boy, they picked the right guy for that. Holy cow. Yeah. That's a good impersonation. I thought Kim Matula's Jane Curtin was a pretty good impersonation. Yeah. But I just, I really enjoyed it.

Like the overall story of this movie is that Lauren Michaels was set up to fail. Yes. And no one expected him to be. the vanguard of Canadian TV invading the United States. Like, it was just like somehow, uh, this bet that he would fail turned into Martin Short and Phil Hartman and Mike Myers and Norm McDonald and you just go on and on and on about how he, uh, you know, he was the leading edge of this amazing thing that happened on TV.

Oh, he's a legend, dude. Well, and it also made me realize that his wife was a huge, you know, he was a huge, huge part of this and they kind of they dance around that because they're like how should she be credited right and she didn't like they were married name or yeah like maiden name or whatever yeah you know she was the writer and it just like the two of them as a team brought this unusual weird thing oh and don't forget Andy Kaufman is in this too He plays, who plays Kaufman in this? Is it, um, uh, let's see, uh, Nicholas Braun and Jim Henson.

So Nicholas Braun from your, your, Greg from, uh, succession. Oh, that's how I know this guy's face. Plays both Andy Kaufman and Jim Henson because I think, oh my God, Jim Henson. Yeah, the original actor who they cast for him couldn't do it. And so Nicholas Brun said, I can, I can be, uh, I can do Henson as well. Or I can, I can remember which one he got. got hired for it. Yeah, he's like the nerdy page guy in succession at the

beginning anyway, right? I don't want to give anything away, but in the beginning, he was like this nerdy, nerdy tag-along guy. He's basically Tom's proxy for everything. Yeah. I don't know. Red Fraggle says, I didn't like the way they portrayed Henson. I think, if anybody

could complain about it, I mean, she's probably got the most experience with the life of Jim Henson. But I, there was a lot of animosity. They did not want Henson there. Right, right. They, they, they, but Henson had a vision of the Muppets.

This is before Muppets, the Muppet show. Exactly. So this was his way of trying to figure out how his Muppets could integrate into an adult viewed show. and I'm sure he learned a ton of lessons through this interaction of Saturday Night Live, but they were not welcomed. And I honestly think he did great as Jim Henson because he's such a visionary man and he's so soft-spoken and kind. And he's like, I really don't like what everyone's doing to the Muppets. you guys, please ask your staff not to put my Muppets in compromising positions in my dressing

room, please. It's so good. Got excited and your mic went crazy. You're all right? Sorry, I moved my laptop and it went. Sorry. That'll happen. But no, that's, yeah.

Oh, yeah. William Defoe is, William Defoe is the one that sets him up. He's in, yeah, it's more than a quick roll, Wes. It's like he's in this a lot. Yeah. And it feels like an Aaron Sorkin film on speed. Like, you know, the walk-and-talk style of Aaron Sorkin's West Wing, stuff like that. It feels like this movie is 80% that.

And done really well, not in a bad way, but it is a lot of, you're going from this room. Here's what's going on. We're going into this room now. Separate B story, but it's still important going into this other room. Here's the other story going on. Finn Wolfhard is an NBC page. It's nice to see that Rat Boy in there. Oh, yeah, from Stranger Things.

Yeah. Yeah. He's there. It's just, it was, I watched it in two parts just because I watched it during my, I, I watched it with your nurse. I watched it with my nurse. So I watched the first part of it with a different nurse. And then I was like, hey, you're a nerd. Do you mind if I watch this movie? Because we got talking about D&D and stuff like that. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. So he had already seen it. And so I watched the second. and half of it last night. But yeah, it is... Can't ask for a better director either because you got a director who's the son of Ivan Reitman who was around all this growing up. All of these actors are part of his life

from all the stuff his dad did from his early associations with Ramis and Murray and everybody else and Dan Aykroyd in particular and then being able to go back as the son of Ivan Reitman and direct these people to be these people that were basically like your comedy uncles and aunts must have been what a cool i've never i haven't heard in any interviews or anything but i bet he's got stuff to say about this experience is probably

pretty great you know there's so many egos in that show even to this day there are so many egos big personalities big ideas and probably people stealing bits from other people and the writers and how all of that started and then you guys someone like Billy Crystal was originally supposed to be in the show and he walked because he won it four minutes more and he could and Michael or Lauren Michael

says I can't give it to you and it was done and then he came back later and got his four minutes I guess so but it's just for me as a huge fan of Saturday Night Live it was just really cool to kind of watch that behind the scene. I mean, I know it's a dramatization, but when that clip you played, Kill all the White

as I see, all of the white executives are in the room as he's singing this. It is the funniest damn thing. Hey, Nicole, did you watch the 50th anniversary stuff? I've been holding off on it. Oh, wow. Because I want to be able, I wanted to feel, number one, I wanted to feel better. and I want it to be able to watch it all in one setting. And that's really hard for me to do a lot of the times.

There's so much stuff you will not be able to watch it all in one sitting. Like a four-episode documentary. At the very least, it's two long sittings because you've got to watch the music special. The concert and the music special separately. Well, here's the thing. Every two weeks, I have a 12-hour infusion. So I could probably get all of it done. I didn't realize it was 12-hour.

long, gee, we're kidding. 12 hours from 8 to 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Tita's chemo sessions were like five or six hours. But I get to be home, so that's nice. Oh, the nurse is sitting there with you, chilling with you. Yeah, he's just chilling. And I have a massage chair, and he's like,

this is the best job I've ever had. Yeah. Does he help you out and go, Mark, bring me a coal and ice tea? No, no, no, no, no. He's not there to be my, he's just there to make sure I'm okay and do the meds while my mom usually comes and sits with me and takes care of the kids if the kids are there. Well, if you ever, if you ever do get him to yell at Mark, please record it and we'll play it here on the show. Yeah, please.

I think it would be really funny for you to watch these during your infusions and like convince the people helping you that all you ever look at is Saturday Night Live stuff. Yeah. Well, now that they, and they have an SNL channel on Amazon Live too. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing I don't like about that is they cut out a ton, like a ton. Oh, is it like the Bacock stuff they do? All over the place. It's a mess. But it's good. It's good because you get a clip here and there that's great. But it's just there's no rhyme or reason to the order of it. It's really weird.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want you to know that the 50th anniversary show, the three hour long show, it is just an episode of SNL starring everybody they could get. Oh, I've seen clips. And it was it was written by like, legendary. S&L writers like John Malaney and Tina Faye and yes they got Garrett Morris 88 year old Garrett Morris they got him awesome there's a shot where

what's his name I can't think of his name all of a sudden the singer Paul Simon gives up his seat to Garrett Morris kind of helped him move because he's you know not in great shape these days that was really nice I thought that's awesome I need to watch it so I hate to drop off but I have

some stuff I need to take care of. Well, no worries. Peter Mayhew's here and he wants to have a talk. Yeah, he wants to step on here. We'll have a fantastic week and we'll see you next time with more from Nicole. You too. See you soon. All right.

It's us guys. It's three men now. Yeah, we're guys. We're dudes. And Randy as the dude who's up, tell us about what you brought this week. So, as you know, I've been trying to watch Comfort Food TV as much as possible. this is not exactly that although it does have a wholesomeness that I have a hard time explaining and I'm hoping one of you can help me explain the wholesomeness of this TV series but it's a it's a

TV series based on a book series that's based on an author's idea of what would happen if we combine Sherlock Holmes and every GI Joe character and the answer is here and it's the that main character talking to a detective. All right, well, here we go. You said the victim was big, so most likely his feet were sticking out and that, so he got spotted. Tall people never have enough room for their feet. Interesting theory. But you still match the description of someone seen walking the highway earlier today, near where the body was found.

Well, that's because it was me. I got off the bus from Tampa and walked to town. Greyhound doesn't have a stop in Margrave. I never said it did. He just said you got off in Margrave. I asked a driver to do me a favor. Why? On account of blind bleak.

Okay, who's that? Blue singer. Legend has it he died in Margrave a long time ago. I figured I'd learn a bit about him. I like music. So you have no home, no phone. You get on a bus in Tampa with $212 a toothbrush and a French war metal and travel over 500 miles to read up on a dead blues musician.

That sum up your past 24 hours. No. I also went to a diner, ordered peach pie, and never got to eat it, because I was arranged. to eat it because I was arrested for murder. Okay. I can hear the muscles in this thing. Right? His tongue is left and right. He has the most muscular tongue, right?

Yeah, he does. That is Alan Richson, who you've probably never heard of if you've never seen this show. Like, it really is his big thing. That is Alan Richson as Jack Reacher in Reacher. I gave you the very beginning of the first season, because if you haven't seen Reacher, you've got to start with the beginning. The third season is

about halfway out at this point. It is so good. It is so entertaining. And like I say, it really is Sherlock Holmes combined with every GI Joe. That is exactly who he is. If you didn't like the Sherlock Holmes movies from 10 years ago, oh boy,

this is maybe not for you. But if you just like procedurals where you get to see beefcase. And I mean, we think that almost every episode has a shower shot of this guy, you know, and he's like butt naked. He's a good looking fella, I'll say. Mark my words, this dude will be in a DCU or MCU movie as a regular character at some point coming up. If it doesn't happen, then the universe is broken and we need to switch time lines. Then they've, exactly, then somebody's not doing their job. You can't be that big, that imposing, naturally.

I mean, obviously it takes work to be as big as he is. but you can't be that large and not be cast in some superhero format it's happening another comparative i want to do is if you didn't like the tom cruise reacher movie good because tom cruise was terrible and the movie was bad those were both bad movies there was a second one there was they were and terrible uh it was like how could you cast the wrong person this much like it's as far away from the character from the books as you could possibly be yeah um the series the tv series is a a lot closer to the books. It takes some liberties with the character

but it's pretty good about being aligned with the books and this first season by the way is based on the first book. Each season is kind of jumping around like justified which is unfortunate because

you're going to fall in love with some characters and then that's it. Your second season all new characters around him except one. He's got a contact who is a know-it-all, and her character name is Nagley. She's played by

Maria Sten, and it's such a good character that they're giving her her own series. There's going to be a Neegley series is in development. That's cool. Quick correction, actually. Well, not correction, because he's not in the current James Gunn DCU, but Alan Richardson played

Hawk to Minka Kelly's dove in the Titans. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Well, he'll play a proper, popular one is what I'm getting that. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. He'll play one that more people will get to see. Yeah. Hawk and Dove, I mean, from all accounts, I heard it was actually good. It was ahead of its time or something. It was really good. Yeah.

But he's bound for things like he'd be an amazing ultimate universe, Batman, Bruce Wayne. For sure. He would be great. It's just about anything, actually. I think the success of Reacher has caused some people to want to develop him for fast and Furious movies. He's in Fast X, that says. Right. He was also in Smallville as Aquaman. Oh, really?

He's got DC all over him. Yeah, it's time for him to graduate to something cooler. Supergirl. I guess he was Hawking Supergirl as well. Or come on over to the Marvel side, Alan Richardson. We've got some plum rolls for you. Yeah, either way. Wherever you go, I'll follow you in your giant freaking chest

wrapped in spandex. I'm kidding. One of the things I love the most about Reacher is that he's practically impenetrable, but there are lots of episodes where he gets in a fight where he's getting hit in the face with a crowbar, and the people making the show are like, continuity, schmantinuity, we're going to show him bleeding from the face. The very next shot of him, though, he's all fine. He's good. Yeah, sure, sure. Oh, my gosh, this series has, so I haven't watched it. My wife has.

My wife loves the series, and I've just been slow to get in there. But Bruce McGill, Patrick, or sorry, Robert Patrick. I love, let me tell you something about old Robert Patrick's my favorite Robert Patrick. Like, as much as he was all smooth and cool as the T-1000, the older that guy gets, the cooler he gets. I'll watch him in anything at this stage of his career. But anyway, yeah, this is great. I want to see it. I was introduced to it by the birthday girl, and I am very, very glad that she did because

it's a really fun thing to watch with your partner Scott so you should do that I will she uh I mean she partner's already been watching it well she's seen everything about this new season so she'd probably watch it again if I just sat down and did it I think we're going to watch Brian's recommend till next but then I think we'll we'll get into Reacher and reacher's not quite done for the season right they still got a few episodes to go it's like six episodes so far and there will be more they've they confirmed that there's a fourth season of Reacher already in production and again the Naigley

I wish that character had a better name but she's just so interesting she's very mysterious she's got a lot of like normal powers herself and that's the thing like the Reacher series is about normal powers

like Batman without gadgets and armor and stuff right just smart strong acrobatic badass and very clever like coming up with almost McGiver levels of cleverness at times and always always one step ahead of everybody reacher always knows what's going to happen and what's going to happen after that does he

ever use his gum for anything they would take that out and stick something on something and make it work like a McGiver go I don't I don't think so but he does he does ambush people a lot and that's a lot of fun because like you see people they're just walking into his trap yeah like he's getting ready putting on putting on his army clothes and getting the right weapon for the job and this kind of thing. So it's just, it's a fun series. All right. Before we move on to my thing, the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, which he was in with

Henry Cabell last year, I heard good thing. It was a guy Richie joint, I believe. I heard good things about that. Was he good in that? Do you feel like he's type cast? Is this giant hunk of meat or like kind of how was that? He's definitely a giant hunk of meat in everything. Like, you can't not be that.

Yeah. There was a lot of meat in that cast for that movie. A lot of meat in that cast. I heard it was good. People liked it. Did you see it, Brian? I can't remember if you saw this. Actually, I'm looking at it.

No, you know what? I'm confusing this with something else that came out last year. There was Guy Ritchie like, but must not have been Guy Ritchie. Yeah, I kind of want to see this still. Oh, it's got that Babs old Bologood to do to do from Dune, the Dune one and two guy. the doctor in the Star Trek series. It's a Gonzales from Three Body Problem. Yeah, I need to see this too.

Yeah. We do. I would compare Alan Richson's typecasting to that of Mike Coulter. Mike Coulter can't be subtle. You're Luke Cage guy, yeah. Yeah, and it's kind of the same thing. Nice. All right.

Well, let's get to mine. I picked an oldie, guys. And one that I think is on our film sack list at some point. We just haven't ever done it. When we do, I'm happily going to watch it again. It's not an issue for me because I love this movie. I probably watch it once every few years. And I'll play a clip and then we'll talk about it.

I talk to your former CEO. It tells me he tried to adopt you. As you no doubt heard, my exo has penicitis. He's the best I ever had. I need a good man to fill his spot. Your name was at the top of the list. Oh, that's good to know, sir. It was a short list.

Your interest, Mr. Hunter, what do you like to do? Do you paint, play ball, play an instrument, ride motorcycles? What? Ride horses. Horses. What's the best horse you ever rode? Arabian, sir. Arabian. Oh, that's a powerful land. Hell yeah, it is. I love how I can tell what you're going.

going to recommend it by looking at blue sky the day before. I know. I like to talk about stuff before I actually do it, I guess. I watch Crimson Tide, as if it wasn't obvious. This is a movie currently streaming on Prime Video and I was happy to find it there.

And I was in the mood for a little Gene Hackman, you know, given the recent passing. I was thinking about roles. I really appreciated him in ones that were maybe, he's not even like the spotlight. And this one is one of his cases where, you know, Denzel's the spotlight, sort of. But, Gene Hackman steals every scene he's in, and he's fan-freaking-tastic.

So imagine an actor who can be in the same room as Denzel Washington and so utterly dominate that you forget Denzel was in the scene for a minute. That seems crazy because that's what Denzel does in most things he's in. So anyway, I'm a huge fan of this movie. He came out in 1995, watched it, like I said, a million times it feels like. The one thing in this watching that threw me that I completely forgot about are the prominent it secondary actors. Everyone always talks about Vigo Mortensen showing up.

And it's true. He's in it. It's a very early row for him. I roll for him. But I always forget that James Gandalfini is all over this thing. Oh, really? Yeah. I totally forgotten that. Yeah, all this is, you know, pre-sopranos and stuff, obviously by a lot. Ricky Schroeder's in it. Weird little roll

for him. The one I was shocked yesterday just because I just got off season two of Silo was Steve Zon is in this thing and he's very young in it. Very different role for him too. But anyway. And you know, And you know who I notice? Who's that? Come on, you can guess.

Matt Craven. Who's the tiny role that Randy would notice? George Drunza or Matt Craven. I'm giving it to one of those two. Who would it be? No, there's a couple of shots of Scott Grimes in this movie. Oh, Scott Grimes in this. And Ryan Felipe, Ryan Philippi is in this movie.

Philippa Lippie. Wow. It's an amazing cast of people you didn't know then. And this was a good year for me and being a Hackman fan. It was also the same year that Quibati and the Dead came out, which I love that movie too. And he eats up every scene he's in. And that, we've seen that for film sack.

But Crimson Tide is essentially a big war thriller, Cold War business about, you know, escalation between us and the Soviets. Things are getting real bad. And to the point that this sub is sent out to basically be the yes or no to escalation, they're going to launch a nuke in response to something or they're not. And there's a lack of communication, a breakdown of communications, between commanders, subs and all this other stuff.

And it then becomes sort of this chess game between Hackman, who is certain that he needs to nuke the planet with this sub, which he could do, has the power to do it, with or without presidential approval or whoever has to say go. And Denzel's not so sure. And it's complicated and it's difficult. And it's also extremely well scored by one Hans Zimmer

before things really took off for him as well. um i love this movie it deserves uh to be seen again and again there are things about it that are quaint now in retrospect in terms of like some of the ways they look at terrorism and the way the soviets are portrayed and and for some reason the guy the smoothing guy from seinfeld to george works for for a while the industrial smoothing boss oh really yeah yeah yeah he plays a russian you have the mole on his shoulder yeah that guy he plays a russian psycho in this who's broken off and the government has codes of the nukes and it's this whole thing. That's a weird thing to see just because, you know, we know who that guy is. Was that right around the time he was making

Seinfeld? In fact, he would have been doing some industrial smoothing on the side. But anyway, it's fantastic. Always fun to watch. Rividing. I can't get enough of it. I'm a huge fan. So go check it out. Oh, and Tony Scott directed it. So duh, of course it's good. Available now. Streaming on Prime Video. All three, four of the things we talked about today, be up on quicktms.l i so if you're concerned you would forget all this shit it's all up there now it's all there click click click click randy what are we watching for film sack this weekend i know it's not craven but that'll be soon give me some more jean hackman yeah what we're doing yeah what'll be doing we got our we got our michelle tractenberg last week and some of us regretted it and then uh

we're going to watch under suspicion yeah we didn't regret her by the way we regretted no no no we regretted just about everything else about inspector gadget but uh sure not michel tracton under Suspicion, it's a Clint Eastwood deal? No, not clear. No. Oh. 2000. Under suspicion is too.

Oh, gosh. Are there multiples? Oh, no. I hate that. You're right. It's 2000. You've got to be really clear. Is there another one?

Let's take a look. 1992, there was an under suspicion with Liam Neeson and Laura Sanjia Como. So don't watch that one. There's also a 94 one called Under Suspicion with Karen Silas and Philip Kazenoff. Don't watch that one. Right.

Even though it sounds like something we'd watch because it's got Liam Neeson, don't watch the... Oh, and don't watch the 2021 film called Under Suspicion. Don't watch that one either. Yeah. There's a bunch of these guys. Yeah. 2000, Gene Heckman, Morgan Freeman, and... Thomas Jane.

Remember when Thomas Jane was in movies all the time? I like Thomas Jane. I'm a fan. I do too. I thought this was... I keep thinking it's a Clint Eastwood movie. It's not. Stephen Hopkins.

I had no idea. I thought this was a Clint Eastwood for some reason. Well, I hope it feels like a Clint Eastwood movie. Yeah. Let's hope so, right? Because Stephen Hopkins directed some stinkers, and this is probably the highest rated. I haven't looked it up, but it feels like Hopkins, among Hopkins highest rated works. But, oh, this poor guy.

Yeah, it definitely wasn't lost in space, Predator 2 or A Nightmare on Elm Street 3. Predator 2, geez. But, again, we're here for the Hackman, and I think it's going to be real good. Yep, that'll be great. Tractonburg straight into Hackman. That's the plan, everybody. So check that out. And hope you don't mind me just slipping a little Craven into our list there, Randy.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad for it. We've moved Craven Woman. Tell me that after you watch it. It's perfect for us. It's perfect for the show. Perfect for the show.

Yeah. And you've seen it. The best way to watch this thing is when we can make fun of it. And you've already seen her, right? Brian, you saw this thing. Oh, you haven't. You've been waiting. One of the first Marvel movies to come out.

Marvel, even tangential, related movies that I said, you know, I'm not even going to bother going to the theater for this one. It was just no point. I think I'm thinking to Madam Webb. You did see that, right? I did see that one in theater's opening night, and just for the laughs, which there were plenty of. Well, I'm excited.

We got a very strong recommendation to sack a fish called Wanda, and I'm excited about that. That's in a few weeks, if it hangs out on streaming for us. Yeah. We got, oh, it's an amazing upcoming time. So talk to you on Saturday. That'll be great. Yeah. I've moved Catwoman.

Thank you for moving Catwoman. We'll see you next time. Bye now. All right. We did it. We pulled that off. Yeah. Welcome to one of our four-hour shows, people.

This is almost core. Yep. Welcome to Wednesdays. That's how it works around here. Unless one of these two are out, it's always a long one. It's just the way it works. It is. Exactly.

Hey, one quick note from Dr. Calhoun. Well, he has a thought I'd like to play. And this is another Estus part. thing so enjoy this right here hello so the caller that said there were no moose in estes park only elk could technically be right because what we call moose in england they call elk and what we call elk are native to north america and they got their name from the european creature and then we're like oh we can't have two totally unrelated things called elk so we start calling the real elk moose. Also, regarding Kentucky Fried Chicken, my understanding is Colonel Sanders,

who was born in Indiana, not even Kentucky, created the method of cooking at pressure cooking chicken and was selling that to store restaurants. And the restaurant in Utah coined the name Kentucky Fried Chicken. So technically, I guess the name came from Utah. Enjoy the show, though. Yeah. So it's interesting. things. There's more to it. Harlan Sanders was the goal then, and this was true for a lot of places, if you had a cool recipe of something, you would keep it to yourself, and then you would make stuff and sell it to restaurants. You'd go to like the pie place up the street and say, do you want to put this fried chicken on your menu? We have this great thing and we'll provide this much per week

or whatever. That was like a thing to do back then. And so Utah got the first franchise, but it wasn't technically a franchise until Utah opened it and coined the name. So it deserves credit for being kind of a big deal. Back to the elk thing, though. So you're right either way. There's elk and moose. There's moose and elk. Exactly.

That actually makes me more right because then the things that I call elk are moose somewhere else. That's right. That makes perfect sense. Dr. Calhoun, throwing that Ph.D. around like a boss. I love it. That's right. Exactly. Thanks, man.

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It's all there. So go check it out. Don't forget to get your tickets. If you haven't grabbed them yet for TMS Vegas, go to TMS.Vegas and grab them today. We are now getting to the point where they're looking low. So if you are coming and you've been holding on for some reason, grab them now because we want to see you, we want to see you.

All right. Get over there. We want to see you. want to see you. We want to see you. Brian, I want to see a song. I want to hear a song. So can we play one here at the end? Tom wrote in and said, hello, sweet potato and Boston cream. A couple of great pies. Another pie day tomorrow. That's, well, this is a request. I have two requests for tomorrow, so this is the first of them. So pie day in two days, which means my wife and I are up to a decade of wedded bliss. It's been a rough year for her between the

U.S. voting and a goblin covered in cheese dust and both of her parents dying within 12 days of each other. Oof, that's rough. Man. I'm requesting Life's Railway to Heaven, a song that she connects with both of her parents. I leave it to the master to pick a great cover. I love you, Malia, and remember to keep moving forward, signed Tom. Jeez, that's rough, man.

So, wow, no kidding. So Tom, yeah, let's get this one out. Oh, and I guess he appended. My dog just got diagnosed with stage four cancer. All I can do is hope this year is get. getting front load and we're not ramping up into something worse. Geez, Tom, I'm so sorry to hear about that, too. Craminy.

Let's get this song out. This is Johnny Cash. Covering a song by Charles Tillman. Charles Tillman was like a gospel singer and writer, and a lot of his songs actually got adapted into other forms, not just popular music, but other things. Life's Railway to Heaven from the Great Lost Performance at the Paramount, 2007, here is Johnny Cash.

Life is like a mountain railway with an engineer that's great. We must make the run successful from the creak to the grave to the grave. Heat the curves, the hills, a tunnel, never fall, never fade. Keep your hand upon the throttle and your eye upon the rail. Blessed Savior, thou will guide us till we reach that blissful ashore.

where the angels wait to join us in God's praise forevermore Well, as we roll along the mainline, there'll be storms, and there'll be storms and there'll be There'll be sidetracked unexpected on the left and on the right But with a straight always before us and our hearts upon the pride There'll be no disembarkation until we reach Paris God. Blessed Savior thou will guide us till we reach that blissful shore where the angels wait to join us

in God's praise forevermore. I got to do one gospel song with the girl's father out here. I was born and raised like old Burr Rabbit was born and raised in the Briar Patch. I was born and raised on gospel music, and I just love it. I was about 17 years old when my voice dropped. I used to sing real high, and I was cutting wood with my daddy all day one day, and I came in the back door. I went, boom, bup-p-pum, bupom, bum, boom.

My mama said, who's that? And I said, that's mean. She said, don't ever stop. Lord's got his hand on you. Well, now, here's what I was singing. We called it gospel boogie back then. Those pants are made for froggin. If you know what I mean.

I actually don't. Frogpants.com. Hey, officer, can you give me a hand over here? I think I found a drunk.