The Morning Stream - TMS 2795: Cow Hums It

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Concrete clown shit. Assuming no one's pee shy. Dr. Bigfinger Gorillahands. Scott breaks his HIPAA. Super British man. Skivvy Encounter. Panera Bread Virgin. The iPod Mork, Nano Nano. How Come We Say How Come? Haunted by clowns. Successfully disappointing. Climbing Brian Head. Texas has a strong personality. I Like Big Ass Burritos and I Cannot Lie. Dan Has all the cards and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We have it on good authority that the robots will rise up at 2.13 p.m. tonight, central time. Perfect. Just enough time to support TMS before it's too late at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, Concrete Clownship. Assuming no one's pee-shy. Dr. Big Finger Gorilla Hands. I break my HIPAA. Super British Man's. Skivie encounter.

Panera Bread Virgin. The iPod Mork Nano-Nano. How come we say how come? Haunted by clowns. Successfully disappointing. Climbing Brian Head. Texas has a strong personality. I like big ass burritos and I cannot lie.

Dan has all the cards and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I sure hate to interrupt you all, but we got a cold damn blizzard that's hot on our ass that we're trying to beat to shelter. She must be hot. The morning stream, two weeks. There's no such thing as two weeks in the news business. Hey, everybody, welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream from March 18th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson.

That's Brian Abbott. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Hey, if you're not here early, to see the stream, or if you don't support our Patreon, you missed out on a really deep dive.

Great discussion about iPods. And, yeah, show and tell of sorts with me and talking about what my plan is for my massive iPod collection. It's a really cool project, though. You should do it. It is. And I had a Gen 1

and I gave it to my dad when I upgraded to the Gen 2, and he doesn't have it anymore. I don't know what happened. to it. And then I also had the one that had the the four Never give stuff to your dad. That's the lesson. I know. And then I had the model that

had the four buttons just under the screen that would light up with red so you could pause and play and stuff. Second gen, I think. Second gen, right? Second gen, on that one, I believe. I think that was third gen. I think... Third gen? Well, or there were two models of first gen. One that had a moving

slidy wheel and then the second version of the first gen had a non-slidy wheel or is it I can't remember. Or was that first and second there was something there was something touchy the one that had the four buttons up top plus the wheel yeah the wheel didn't

click it was like a it was like a touch wheel but it wasn't the same as the later wheels which were so cool I forget what those are but they call that what? I think it's called a touch wheel is that all like it said okay yeah but yeah that one I remember that's the one I heard

the audio books I've listened to like five times over that's the device I had for that yeah yeah early podcast too that's like the one I had for all that stuff well anyway if you enjoy the last minute go listen to the Patreon pre-show

where you get 20 minutes of that that's right but now that you're here I want to get philosophical okay I heard somebody yesterday say uh the original questions like actually I don't remember but it doesn't matter.

You could say something like, hey, I'm going to be late. And the person will say, how come? And it hit me like a brick. What does that even mean? Right. Who put those words together to mean why? Yeah, because you mean why. We know what you mean when you say it, right?

We know you mean why are you going to be late. But we don't understand. I do not and will not understand how come has either of those words has zero connection to why is that a shortening of how did that come about i don't know i tried to find it didn't nothing came up like that how'd that come about yeah i don't know seeing that you could say that about something more like um i crashed uh my my car lost its left wheel left rear tire oh how did that come about like that would make sense to me so you can say how come sure we're getting closer to the truth but when it's more like it's more well yeah it that would

make more sense than, oh, I can't make it to dinner tomorrow night. Oh, no, how come? Yeah. Like, I can't make a dinner night. Oh, no. How did that come about? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense. You're right. Yeah. So what, what have we done as a English-speaking, you know, population to say that? And I can't find good etymology. Etymology. Not entomology, which would be bugs. Unless bugs were saying. Yeah. I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it what it is. And yeah, and you can even. You can even even asked the question fastidious just did how come you ask like it sounds right because we're all used to saying it and hearing it but when you really think about it doesn't make any damn sense at all it doesn't make any sense yeah how come yeah how come we use how come exactly the dumber it

sounds like yeah oh how come so i'm gonna try maybe it's just because any other way of saying it is well no why is short yeah yeah it's not like it's a you know what i just maybe that's it's it's when you say why you put the person on you put the person under the light a little bit and they have to go oh well here's why you know they have to explain themselves when you say how come it put takes it off of them and on to whatever the circumstances were that caused the delay and so when you're saying how come you're saying you're letting them off the hook a little bit if you say why so so imagine me saying i'm going to be late and then someone says why that feels like i'm on the spot now but if they say how come

I don't know why but that lets you loose a little to say well my schedule and my stuff exactly it's softer so maybe that's it that's still weird I don't get it and Amy is Amy confirmed actually Nicole says

the phrase how come originating English is a shortened version of how did it come about or how comes it how comes it Jesus let's let's start let's bring back how comes it and just see how long that lasts

my garage door broke How comes it? Exactly. Makes perfect sense. Yeah. This is kind of one of those times. Just because of the words involved, maybe it's okay that Claire is coming a little bit late to chat this morning.

Oh, yeah. I'm glad she's wherever she is. The whole outcome discussion just might be, might be too much. Yeah, we know right where she'd be with this. You know, there's no question in my mind. We're, you know, not saying we don't want her in the chat, but maybe in this case. It's a good thing she's late.

Yeah, come when you're ready. Wait a minute. That all sounds bad. But yeah, I know that makes sense. Like, how come is a lot more gentle than why. But even at the time, the word why had already been invented. So how did that come about? It just feels like, oh, we're all going out to dinner tonight.

Oh, really? To whence are we traveling? Yeah. Two wince. Instead of where. Come, cometh how that did about. Yes, right. That's what I'm going to start saying.

Wentz's time, not, uh, or locate, is it location, whence. Wentz's location. Wentz's location. Yeah. So from whence you came is where you came from. Right. From where you came. Yeah.

Yeah. So how come, no, from whence, how cometh thee? There you go. How cometh. Never mind. I'll take you to Claire territory again. They really are. It's kind of easy to go there.

I see the attraction. That's true. Also, I found this, I don't know why I got so philosophically yesterday, but I found another thing that blew my mind a little bit. And Brian, I'm going to test you first, and then we're going to find out the answer. Okay. The Grand Canyon, right? You're familiar with it?

Very familiar. Been there. Yeah, been there a couple times myself, a bunch of times, actually. Grandfather rented a, my paternal grandfather rented a plane or booked a flight thing where we flew into the Grand Canyon when I was like 13 or 12 or something oh that's badass I never did that oh no it was 15 it was the it was the same trip where I went to uh Vegas for the first time and sat on the little concrete clown shit at circus circus I have a photo of it oh I found found that the other day I got to share that one that's wild 15 year old Brian sitting on clown

shit at uh circus circus and they've never updated it since that place is They've never, no, no, that, all that clown. All that, the stuff you could sit on and the fountains in the front. There used to be fountains in the front. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. All gone. I think it's now slots of fun, the dying hellhole, from whence you will never reemerge. If you go to slots of fun.

Yeah, that place is crazy. Hotel California. It's crazy that that still sits the way it sits there. I just don't get it. All these other ones that are way better hotel casinos get torn down all the time. For some reason, that thing's just like, nope, we're here. I know. We got these clowns.

When the lights or when the sun goes down, one of the eyes isn't lit up, half the clown faces aft. It's like this place smells like cigarettes and death. It's just terrible. You know, the disappointing amusement park in the back of it that's successfully disappointing to both adults and children. Yeah. It manages that impossible feat of being both non-intertating to adults. children yeah somehow puts a foot in each of those categories but i think uh it's the fact that it's probably treated like um like a indigenous people burial ground where like poltergeist

you know well we could rip down the circus circus and you could put your new hotel there oh no not touching that tarot sport you don't want to get haunted for the next 30 years or whatever the curse is right exactly yeah by clowns no less like clowns oh all right anyway so grand canyon we both been now there was this question posed on a tech video I saw that said if all 8 billion humans, 8 billion plus of us humans were to be around the rim

if this was possible so you have to like kind of put your head in the possibility range here but if it were possible for all of us to surround the very edge of the Grand Canyon all 8 billion of us and we all peed into the Grand Canyon 8 billion people would that fill the Grand Canyon

full of pee and that's also pretend that the Grand Canyon is not porous. It is literally, let's say it's just a smooth. It's like a Tupperware bowl, basically is what we're saying. And we're also saying that women have that plastic device that they can

straddle that that allows them to control the direction like basically, like pee like dudes where they can write their name in the snow. My friend Katie said that she could do it like a dude and we didn't believe her and she

proved it in some snow. Basically, she had a way of... She didn't have to walk around? No, she had a way of standing. I don't know what she was actually doing because we were the other way not looking, because we didn't feel good about looking at Katie's junk or anything. But Katie was like, could do something with her hand that made it so she could get a little stream going. And it was pretty wild.

So let's assume they're all like Katie. They can all do that. Did she spell her name letter K, letter T? No, she did. Wow. She actually spelled it. without K-A-T-Y? I don't remember what she did now that you say it.

It may have been just Katie. Or maybe just K, maybe that's all we did. This is high. That's impressive. It was like high school or just after it was all stupid. It's got to be like trying to control the claw machine to pick up a stuffed Elmo. Exactly. That thing's designed.

The house always wins. So, anyway. 8 billion people on either side of the Grand Canyon. We're all peeing in there. Yeah. It's a lot of people. extreme everybody yeah and you've got let's everybody's got a full bladder you're all peeing into this thing do you think it would fill the grand canyon i'd say quarter of us are pea shy by the way but

but let's say we nobody's pee shy nobody's pee shy everybody's got it ready to go big strong stream big full bladders eight billion what do you think yeah i think so you have to figure out a way to get eight people eight billion people around i feel like the um you're not getting eight billion people around the rim is going to be the toughest part of that. Like you might need to build some bleachers, vertical bleachers that people could stand on. Well, logistically, the assumption is that that works. Like, we don't have to think too hard about that. Like, if you could successfully get them in.

They're all peeing into it. Yeah, can it fill the thing? All right. Wow. Ambassador Doma, where did you find this data? The Grand Canyon can hold about 1.2 quadrillion gallons of liquor. would. All right. So divide that by 8 billion and that's, that, that seems there's no way then that we could fill that. We are not filling, uh, we are, eight billion people are not filling one point two quadrillion gallons of, uh, of, uh, of, uh, Grand Canyon space. All right. Let's see if you and, uh,

with the help of Domo are correct. We're going to hit play here and we're going to watch this video. These people are all peeing. All right. So here we go. Actually, there's the video. If Everyone on earth peed into the Grand Canyon. You might think it would fill up in less than a day. But the Grand Canyon can hold about 1.2 quadrillion gallons. And the average person pees about half a gallon a day. So if all 8 billion people peed at the same time, they'd only add about 4 billion gallons of pee.

At that rate, it would take over 800,000 years of constant peeing to fill it up. Eight? I'm sorry, what was the number? 800,000 years 8,000 years? Eight Where to go? You know what he said?

800,000 years today. There it is. 800,000 years to fill that thing up, everybody paying all the time nonstop, 8 billion of you. Now, I would have said

if you'd ask me, nah, that wouldn't fill it up. But I didn't think it would take 800,000 years. Yeah, yeah, that's insane. Wow. Awesome.

Thank you. A disgusting version of Mo. Raqa? He does say I like it. Well, anyway, I like dump stuff like that. It's a good time. Now, poo, on the other hand.

Yeah, no. Now, if you're all taking a big dump in there and be done by 2 o'clock. All right. Check this out. We've got a call from a Brit in Texas. And I haven't heard this yet. So all I know is the description says that. So let's see if I was right.

Here you go. Hello, me, lads. This is Tommy Radcliffe from the Grand Old Stite of Texas. as though at art, I fancy myself a proper Brit. Now, I might not be sipping a couple with the Queen rest of the so, but I do reckon I've got enough British lingo to have a chin web with the best of them. Now, I was listening to the morning stream

while stuck in a proper falf of traffic, absolute nightmare, mate. Felt like I was queuing on the M25, except in stella lorries and double-deckers, it was pickup trucks and a bloke on a horse. No joke, I'd just trotting along like it's 1893. In any road, I just wanted to say, you lot are the dogs' bollocks, proper top-notch. So

cheers to keep me entertained while I dodge on with Delos and existential dread. right i'm off to make a brew and contemplate while americans can't grasp the concept of a proper biscuit too loo oh wow okay oh my god that whole thing was was gold that was absolutely gold like the whole uh you know it's like listening to uh squeezes cool for cats where you don't understand three-fourths of the stuff they're singing about but you just love hearing them talking about oh yeah and my question i'm left with a little bit. I have a sneaking suspicion. Well, I don't know this. I'm 50%. This is an actual Brit who's here in the States. Or this is a really, really good impression of that accent.

And I can't tell which because he doesn't really, you know, get into it. I don't know if he's being cheeky. Show us the birth certificate. Give us a birth certificate. That's right. We're birthers on this guy. That's pretty great though. And if he is a Brit, if he is a transplant and he's here in Texas, that's an odd juxtaposition. I'd just be curious what he's doing there. Gosh, yeah. Talk about going from one culture to maybe the strongest culture in the U.S. that has its own, like, its own system. Like Seattle? Yeah, you know, you go to Seattle. It's like, all right, it's kind of cool. Like, it wouldn't feel as, not dichotomy. Like, it's not like it's opposite ends of the spectrum. But you go to Texas. Texas has a very strong personality. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good way of putting it. Absolutely. But also it could be, I mean, if he's in Austin, that's also its own weird offshoot. That's true. Yeah. Austin is, Austin is the little oasis in the big oasis that is Texas and the U.S.

Yeah. Like they always talk about Texans are always saying, oh, this is a seed from the union. And I'm like, yeah, but what are you going to do with Austin? They don't want to go. Right, right. You're just going to leave them there and you guys go do your own thing and then just cordon off the middle bit or the part with that Austin and then just live on their own and be part of the state still. It's like the little Vatican City in the middle of Italy. Yeah, that's how it feels sometimes. It totally is, yeah. Anyway, now I want to know all about your story, they're a British man.

Tommy, what is Tommy White Castle? What was it? Oh, I'll play the very beginning of that. Hello, me, lads. It's his Tommy Radcliffe in the ground. Radcliffe. Whitecliff? Whitecliff or Radcliffe?

Radcliffe, like the Harry. Like Daniel. Harry Peter, yeah, like that guy. Gotcha. Well, thanks for that. We appreciate that. Senior geek on the line. Got something to say about being tall.

He's a tall guy. He's a tall guy. Yeah, we've seen him up close. We know this is true, so we're going to see what he has to say. Hey, S&B, this is Gary the Senior Geek. Scott, last week you were talking about a shopkeeper that kept telling you you were too tall. It reminded me of a time in my early 20s and the early 70s. I had long brown hair and I pulled into my bank parking a lot to deposit my paycheck.

And I reached over into my glove compartment to get my bank book. And as I was getting out of my car, I saw a policeman with his hand on his gun. And he looks at me and says, you're too tall. And I didn't really know how to react to that. But then he said, no, somebody knocked over a liquor store not far from here that meets your description. I suspect long round hair of the description. And but he said he was much shorter than you. And he took his hand off his gun, got back in his car, and left.

So that was exciting. Yeah, it is. That's crazy, man. I'm no kidding. That happened to me with the jogging around the school that one time. It was before we had moved, but the cop says, pulls me over, ask me a bunch of questions. And I was like, what is going on here?

And at the end, he says, well, you're okay. I'm like, what does that mean? And he goes, you're fine. You're not the guy. There's been a guy around the school and he's been hanging around. And there was some talk that he was wearing shorts and he was maybe, it looked like he was jogging, but really was like being creepy at the school. I said, that is 100% not me.

I've been here. I've been over here. I'm not near the school. And he goes, I know, that guy's was reported to be like 300 pounds. And I'm like, well, you'd think you could, you'd have seen that just glancing at me, then I'm not the 300 pound guy people saw over there. Yeah. You know, I was probably 180 at the time.

What are you doing? Oh, my gosh. Anyway, it can happen. You know, I was worried, I was worried yesterday. So I did my, oh, this is a good, this is a good, hopefully we'll get a, a recording from Jerry Tolbert, by the way. Had my physical yesterday and didn't get jelly fingers because they're going to do my labs. And he says, yeah, actually, we can now tell because of a protein in your blood how enlarged or if there's any problem with your prostate, we can tell because of the presence of a protein.

Oh, they don't need to do the finger danger anymore. That's great. This guy, I know, which this guy had big finger, so I was very glad. a big hairy knuckled gorilla hands yeah dude looked a little bit like seth rogan without all the yeah we're gonna yeah take uh take your pants down uh huh i wasn't drinking uh or drinking smoking weed all afternoon or anything right exactly good doctor um anyway uh so we talked a little bit about the sleep issues that that i'm having that you have a little bit um that you know yeah sometimes i wake up two o'clock in the morning takes me forever to get back to sleep try the meditation thing

try the breathing exercises try that little flex deal where you start your toes and work your way up your body flexing uh to to kind of relax yourself and he says so uh i'm going to recommend melatonin and i said wait a minute doctor this is this is like you know where it turns into that infomercial wait a minute doc i thought that if you took melatonin you'd start teaching your body not to produce it He's like, there's no conclusive studies on that, which surprised me. This is why I want Jerry Tolbert to chime in, that your melatonin production is still going to be based on circadian rhythms. And when it gets dark, your body, when there's no sunlight, your body starts producing melatonin, regardless of if you take it or not. So he says, but he tells me, don't, you know, go to the store after this, pick up one milligram.

melatonin. Don't get the five. Don't get, you know, anything larger than that. Take, um, just try one. So if you wake up in the middle light, do one. And then you may not be groggy. Like document, see how it goes. Um, uh, maybe even, and then he even said, you could try taking it. I know you're not having a problem falling asleep, but maybe try taking it before you go to bed. And that still might help you. So, um, so right after the doctor's appointment. I went over to the CVS in Target now. I didn't know those CVSs were in Target, but they are now. And the only way you can get one milligram melatonin is in kids chewable gummies. So here's a guy alone, no kids with him, buying a package of stuff to make kids fall

asleep going through the checkout line of Target. And I'm feeling like, yeah, I'm on some list. Yeah, that's great. That's like a 16-year-old getting a package of Trojans and going through the line. Right, exactly. Just the opposite, I guess. It's trouble. Yeah, exactly. So did you try it last night?

Did it do anything for you? I did, and I slept all the way until 445, which is long for me. It's a longer, a longer sleep than I usually get. Because melatonin does jack shit for me. I think I'm just like, I don't know what my problem is with that stuff. It doesn't do anything for me. It's like I didn't take a thing when I try it. So maybe I need to be more consistent about it.

what milligram dosage you've got, you know, and maybe you've only got the one milligram thing. Mine are definitely five. They're gummy form and they're like five of those, I think. I'll take two sometimes. So I'll even just overload on the shit. And then it doesn't, it's just the same pattern every night. So I kind of quit doing them because they weren't doing anything for me. But Dr. Tolbert, the ball's in your court. You call in. We want one of your calls where you explain this business to us. Okay. Yeah, I want a second opinion. Yeah. Here's is the only opinion we care about. Listen, this dude solved a mission for me. The last, I don't know, two, three months, I was getting this weird, I wouldn't call it necessarily like a breakout, but like this weird stuff on my cheeks and up here where it would just kind of flare up, get red, little zitty, but not terrible, but it would stay kind of red and hot and almost like an allergic reaction. But I haven't.

Yeah, like hives or that sort of. How long would they last? They would last. Well, for the last few months, they just never went away. It just stayed and stayed and stayed. And so there were times on the show, you'd never notice this on the show because before I left, Kim's like, oh, that looks bad. Come here. And she'd put a little makeup on there to hide it.

So what I did is I reached out to him and he said, well, there's these two over-the-counter creams. Here's the routine you do with it. Try it for a few days. See how it goes. If it doesn't improve, you may want to go to a dermatologist. So I did that. And it cleared it up. It's gone.

done out finished all right cool you know how often that is for me where somebody's solution works exactly like it's so much easier or so much more common for say yeah no that we tried it didn't work nope that thing didn't work and the best part of tollbert is i didn't have a copay i didn't have to fill about out a bunch of paperwork i didn't have to deal with his freaking receptionist lady i didn't have to do any of those things i mean i'm not trying to you know i'm obviously i'm very appreciative of for his advice. It's just simple advice, friend to friend or whatever. So whoever regulates this stuff, calm down, keep your lawyers to yourselves. But the point is, Jerry, you know, Jerry had the right, uh, he knew right away. He goes, what's it look like? I said, well, here's a

picture. I found a picture online of kind of the, what it looked like. He says, oh yeah, that sounds like whatever he said, the name of the thing. He says, here, just try these two things, do it for about three days. Worked. Bing. Done. Yep. I'm so happy because now I can go to Vegas without looking like I'm 16, you know. Or have pancake makeup on. Yeah, either one sucks. I don't want either of those things. You know, neither of those is a good plan.

It also means that he's also, because it's free advice, he's also not constrained. If anything goes wrong, we can't sue him because we didn't pay him for advice. No, no, you know, and plus I just told the story. I just told the story, which means no confidentiality. stuff either. I just hip-ed myself out there. Everybody take a look at my HIPAA.

Yeah. Gaze at my HIPAA. Anyway, good stuff. I am my HIPAA. We want to hear from you, though, Dr. T. About what Brian said. Melatonin. And, you know, if the dangers that we've been told, I just remember being told, you know, constantly

that, oh, yeah, you take melatonin, your body's going to stop producing it. But and maybe it's the case, like if I do five milligrams every night, then I mean, who knows? Maybe overdoing it, yeah.

Who knows? Studies are all, I always care about, you know, give me some firm, hard facts. If they don't exist yet, somebody, I mean, because obviously, right now we live in a real golden era of making sure research gets the dollars they need to get stuff done.

It's a beautiful time to be alive where nobody's defunding huge research in science or medicine. Where science has always kept at the forefront of, of our priorities. Yeah, I mean, we're trying to make this country we live in great again, you know. Yeah, yeah.

So let's try that. Let's try that. And not turn the White House into a Tesla dealership. Yeah, it's a great time to be alive. Tesla. Oh, man. It's all computer. Like Isaac Neutron.

Anyway. Let's get to some news. We have news to break. We're breaking news here, everybody. Today's breaking news brought to you by. TMS Vegas. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get your tickets.

A TMS.Vegas right now. Yeah, if it wasn't clear, get your tickets. Get your tickets. And right now is key because in a few weeks, well, more than that, but in not too long, you're out of luck because it'll be happening and you won't be there to experience the grand nature of basking in the glow that is Brian and Scott in live form right exactly yes 41 days Scott 41 days until TMS Vegas yeah a bunch of really great people coming why would you want to miss this and they're cheap I bet they're less than last year I did shrinkflation

wait that doesn't work because that's when people's bags of chips are smaller yeah Yeah. We're giving you more for less. There's more stuff happening this year. Deflation for less than the tickets cost last year. And the swag is as good or better than last year. I think better the stuff of putting in there this year. Really cool. Really good stuff. And all the stuff we're doing on site, great and even better this year. And you won't even, I don't want to get into details because I don't want to spoil anything. But some of the people that are coming that you all know from shows and guest spots and all of that, that list is bigger than. ever this year. It is. Nicole, we can say, Nicole, she's saying in chat right now, this is the first TMS Vegas that Nicole's been able to make it to. No, she was there in 2018. She came. Was she in 2018? Yeah, I have pictures of her and jury and me and you. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. She probably forgot. But yes, you were here, Nicole for that. But that was a very different. I think I'm the one who forgot. That was a much,

much different event back then. And you're, you're going to be getting to see her and a bunch of other faces. It's just going to be great. My sister Wendy's coming. All right. I'll say this. It's the first time we're going to have Tom for the Wednesday show. Oh, shit. For the live show. That is 100% true. He usually comes in, does his little thing, and then bolts.

Not this time. Out. Out. Yeah. Not this time. You're going to be gazing at his HIPAA while he's there. That's right. Amy, of course.

TV's Travis. Yeah. Bill Duran. Yeah. Randy. Randy Jordan. This is going to be Randy's first. Am I making the mistake or is this going to be Randy's first team?

This is 100% is first TMS Vegas. Okay, good. Want to make sure I wasn't getting that wrong? He was here that year that we came before and just hung out. And we did, we went to the secret pizza place. I can't remember what all we were doing here. Oh, right. Do you remember that?

It was just like a quick little whatever. He was here briefly for that. And then three-fourths of film sack eating secret pizza. Yeah, it was real good. I regurgitated some of it and sent it to Donaway. He was fine. I'm sure he was pleased. Yeah, put it a little bag, put it in the shipping thing, and send it off.

That's right. Yeah, Wendy, Bobby, of course. Yeah. I know we're forgetting people. Eileen Rivera. Yeah. That's going to be good. A lot of people's significant others.

Wendy, my sister Misha, I think, is also confirmed to be coming back. Oh, nice. So she'll be hanging out. There's some, Wendy wants to do some kind of impromptu pickleball competition. I don't know how that's going to go. That's up to her. She'll deal with it. Remember, remember when me and Misha got to,

was it Misha? I don't know. Oh, your birthday. Your birthday? Yeah, when she bumped into her in our skivies at Mandalay Bay Pool and took a picture together. Yep. She just happened by Brian at the same hotel. She was at the MGM and there was Brian celebrating his 50th.

Exactly, yeah. Pretty great. So anyway, get them now. TMS.orgas while they survive. I don't know what that means. Oh, it's because this next article is about surviving. Hey, Chinese teen survives 10 days in a freezing mountain top by eating

toothpaste. Oh, okay. Yeah. God, that seems not nutritional. I'd say, what is it toothpaste that would constitute protein, like what would keep you alive

about eating toothpaste? I think it's the... I guess we're going to find out. It's great ingredient is better than nothing is the ingredient I think that kept them a lot. But anyway, an 18-year-old hiker from China was rescued after enduring 10 days in the freezing

mountains of northwestern China, struggling against harsh weather and limited resources. He managed to stay alive by consuming river water, melted snow, and toothpaste. The young adventurer identified as Sung Lang, embarked on a solo trek on February 8th through the Quingling Mountains of the Shengji province. I think I'd say that.

Shengzi. I believe you. Shengzi? Known for its rugged terrain and rich biodiversity. Shanksu very much. Yeah, shank Jiu very much. Rich dive biodiversity in this mountain. The mountain range has in an average altitude of 2,500 meters.

Is that high? I don't know if that's high. For us, though, for me and you. Because I think you and I are pretty close to that. Right. Up in our mountains. Probably. No, that's not a lot.

Wait a minute. 2,500 meters according to Google is 1.5 miles? That's not that. Yeah, okay. No, that is. It's up there. I mean, we've got 14ers, which is almost three times that amount. Yeah.

That's all I'm saying. I think we got them beat in that regard. Not saying it's still, you know, it's a mountain. It's rugged. You know, we don't want to, we don't want toothpaste boy to feel bad. We're not saying we're better than him. Okay. I would probably die.

Less than double. So 8,000 feet is what that translates to, 8,202 feet. So less than, I mean, more than half of a 14er here. Okay. So it's more than. It's more than Snowbird, less than Brianhead for us. Brianhead's 10, I think. Brian Head?

Yeah. Nice. Yeah, Brianhead's great. Yes, it is. It is. Brian, you'll never find better, never been better Brian head than skiing in Brianhead. Anyway, it says here, however, his journey took a perilous term and his electronic devices ran out of battery two days, excuse me, later, and cut off all contact with his fan. family. Lost in the wilderness. He followed a creek downstream and an attempt to find a way out. That is the thing you'd want to do. He followed the river. Yep, exactly. Problem is he fell a couple of times, which led to fracturing his right arm with no food to sustain him. He took shelter behind a large rock using dry straw and leaves to insulate him against the bitter cold. His ordeal ended on February 17th and the local rescue team found him. They did a search, found the guy, all that stuff.

Um, the, uh, he, so to, to look, him of the contents of a FedEx truck. Yep. And I just picture rolled up crest tubes all rolled up to the tip, just laying around. Right. Exactly. Aquafresh for a little variety. Yeah. But I, you know what? There is a little bit of, um, there's probably a little bit of sustenance in there. It's not, I don't even think it's sugar. It's like, sugar, which has got your, um, uh, just got a little protein, not protein, but, um, does sugar have calories in it? Toothpaste has sugar? Let's see.

Sugar and toothpaste. It does seem like it's counterintuitive, doesn't it? Yeah. Must have. So what's the flavor from? Yeah. Oh, here it is. Toothcase may contain artificial sweeteners like sodium, sacrin, or xylitol,

zylitol, which are not the same as regular sugar and do not contribute to tooth decay. These sweeteners are added primarily to improve the taste of the toothpaste. So where is the nutrition coming from? Yeah, I don't know. That seems, it doesn't seem like you're going to get anything sustenance-wise out of toothpaste. You're better off like eating, you know, the leaves or some vegetation or obviously he drank some of the stream water and river water that he came across. Yeah, and you need what, is it 30 days you can live without food, but you can only live like three days of that water or something like that. Something like that, yeah.

And he was gone 10 days. So maybe the toothpaste played no role at all. It was just a distraction. Yeah. Minty fresh is what it was. That's right. Yeah. I don't know what they have.

And maybe Chinese two-paces different. Don't they, like, doesn't there some may cause harm if too much is ingested or something on the? I would think so. But if I, if I, if I, they don't get into it. My guess is he's doing like, just like a little here, a little there. It's probably just enough to tell his body to go, oh, you're taking something in, you know. Yeah. I don't know.

Convent your body that you're getting nutrients. eventually that will run out but I don't know it's a weird thing to eat I'm trying to think if I was lost and stuck up there fluoride causes upset stomach vomiting and in severe cases more serious issues so yeah hopefully he's being very sparing eating a little bit of toothpaste at a time yeah because I mean every day like this morning I brush my teeth and I'm you know I spit obviously I spit it out but you're still you're going to retain a little bit right you're swallowing something technically eating some yeah yeah so as long as he's he was careful and he'd be all right anyway he's back he's safe he's recharged his phone

all as well good job chinese teen he did he's he's purchased more tooth-based and he's fine now that's right uh let's move over to coffee which probably would have helped him a lot on this trip i don't know that dehydrates you oh does it i didn't know that yeah i think it does anyway that the caffeine does it or i think so yes uh did i tell you i did the t-mobile tuesday a Panera bread three bucks? Yeah. Yeah, it's only three bucks a month right now for six months. Three months? Yeah. Yeah. So I went and did it and Kim and I went to, you know what?

All right. First time in a Panera bread for this. I've never been in one. And just, for whatever reason, just never been to a Panera bread. We go in there. Their menu is massive. They have so much stuff. Yes. Yeah, they do. And because I was a new card holder or membership thing, they gave me five bucks off any new anything. So I had like an, I had a delightful. little dinner. Kim and I for way less money because we both had this new card thing. It was great.

You know, their food, they're pick two. Their soup selections are really good. Their sandwich stuff is great. That's what we did. It was so good. I had their French onion, whatever soup, and then some kind of sandwich. It was fantastic. I'm not saying, I'm not, it's like,

oh, I discovered Panera bread. I know it's a chain. I know they're everywhere, but the staff was insanely helpful. I felt like Okay. They were like, hey, your stuffed ready. Come on over here. They were just nice. And I don't know. I have a very good first impression of Panera bread. And also these deals and sign up stuff didn't feel like just giving my information for very little value. I felt like I'm getting real value out of these memberships. So I don't know. I was impressed with Panera bread. Yeah. It's good stuff. Yeah. It's good stuff. I liked it. Their lower calorie stuff is kind of minimal because they are a bread place. and bread is just, you know, but still, they're egg white, they have a breakfast

wrap that's like egg white and bacon or something that's really good. Yeah. We got a place here I'm going to tomorrow call Big As Burrito. I'm so excited. Oh, God, that sounds amazing. Yeah. They go nuts. They're just the kind of place that has breakfast burritos. They have all day stuff, but they have breakfast burritos that

if you, you have to tell them how you want your eggs prepared that go in the burrito. Really? So if you want If you want scrambled, great. If you want them loose and gooey in there, no problem. They'll do however, like at any restaurant, they'll do however you want to do your eggs inside the burrito. And then you can add like chili in there.

And they're huge. Kim and I are going to split one. We're not eating. I'm not eating a whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you don't need your own big ass burrito. I'm excited about it. That's awesome.

Yeah, we, by the way, we just got through a few episodes of, we're watching the final season of what we do in the shadows. Actually, last season and a half, I thought we were done with season five. We still had like three or four episodes of season five to watch. You're right where we are. Exactly where we are. Yeah.

We're trying to do the same thing, Carter and I. That's funny. Well, now we're on the, we just last night finished the fourth episode of season three. We've decided, and this is that I don't want to get too far off track, but we can only do two episodes of what we do in the shadows a night. That is not an easy one to binge because it is so crazy and off the wall. You want to savor it and not. I agree. It loses a little bit of its edge

If you're just pounding it Correct Correct And I don't agree I don't think that's That's not a great way to watch that show I would take take your time But two's good right

Because what like half hour each So you're Yeah two's perfect An hour of hour of that And then we watched a movie That was in the Oscar thing It's like another one that I kind of want to recommend Until tomorrow

But I'm going to hold off But anyway We're in the episodes where Guillermo was hiding out At the Panera bread Oh yeah I will wait for him outside the Panera bread. I love...

If there is one place I know Guillermo likes to hang out, is Benera bread. People always ask, like, who's your favorite character on there? And I'm like, I can't pick from my favorite children. They're all good. They are all great. But if I had to pick, it's between Nandor and Matt Barry's character. And Matt Barry...

Can't think of his name all of a sudden. But I love Colin Robinson. And I love Naja. I love them all. I love everybody. It's a perfect, it is like a great casting for that show. Everything about it, man. Even, you know, Kristen Schall's edition, your character edition, has been a great, a great addition of the show.

Yeah, she turned out to be pretty good for it. Yeah. Oh, well, that's the end of that story. We'll talk about coffee tomorrow. Instead, we're going to take a break and come back with Dan after this. Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man, will be. here. We got an email calling him out about something he promised a long time ago, and today I'm told he will be delivering today. Okay, cool. So anyway, stick around for that. Brian, why don't

you tell us what song we're breaking it up with? Sure. This is a band called Cleopatric, and it's all one word, Cleopatric. Nice little, nice little portmanteau there. This is their sophomore album. It's called Fake Moon. Just came out last week. Big thanks to Nowhere Special Recordings and 30 Tigers. They've just started this week, their tour of the U.K. and Ireland. I don't know why those are broken out. Oh, yes, because U.K. and Ireland are broken out. Not Northern Ireland. Oh.

Yeah, Northern Ireland is broken out. Anyway, this is, boy, so glad you're going to hear of yell at me. No kidding. Like, the caps lock key was in the process of being pressed. Oh, there she is right there. Oh, shit. Well, she missed all the how-come stuff, so everything's fun. She did.

It's like the Claire signal was just shown up into the sky. She's like, what? They're talking about Ireland. Oh, shit. Anyway, their tour has just started. This is their big single, one of their big singles from Fake Moon. The song is called Big Machine. Here is Cleopatrick.

moral tonight so I always know understand the fall and why it's right say your lies like one of your own mind but i don't want to be part of you part of you big but she know i don't be part of you big but she no i don't be parted We'll be mushing on a dream

To die Heaven all secretly wonderful To die Without landing crew Love to sour truth Surround me But I don't want to be part

of your big machine No, I don't want to be part of your big machine machine, no, not me, not me. Not me. I know your plan and you want to make me something you can bet. Get out of my head.

I don't want to be hard. A feeling machine. I don't want to be hard. A feeling a machine. I don't want to be hard. I'm going to be a machine. I'm not interested in what you're young, mister? Right now, I'm not interested in what you figure, young mister?

Right now, there may be some woman having a baby or some man. with gang green of the leg. People needn't help right this minute. Each of us must at some time confront the grim reality of growing old. All right, we're back. When we put the Claire signal up, is it a shamrock?

Is it like a leprechaun? What do we put up there? That's a really good question. not a bottle of gin anymore. It used to be a bottle of gin. Is it a gummy? Oh, I like it. I like it.

That's a weed gummy in the sky. A weed gummy, basically. Perfect. Take that, Claire. Hey, Brian, who was that again, that song? Sure, that's the band Cleopatrick. And their brand new album is called Fake Moon. It's excellent.

That is one of the singles from it. It's called Big Machine. Nice. All right. Well, there you have it, everybody. Let's get, uh, let's get Dan. in here. What do you think of that? I'm not going to repeat what she just said in the chat. No.

But gummy, but not necessarily weed gummy is what she's saying. Ew. I don't even want to look. I haven't looked. You don't want to look. Don't look. Don't look. I'm not going to look. I'm not looking. I never look at you guys. I don't know. You're always saying something dirty. How can I look at you guys? I can't look at you. All right, check this out. Here's a tangent for him. Be careful. May it cause drowsiness. Well, that good news is that's true. And it's Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man joining us from North Carolina. Hey, man, what's going on?

Greetings programs. How are you guys? Good. Good. Good. I guess the drowsiness thing is a good segue into, you know, being a pharmacist, we could talk about melatonin. Let's talk about that really quick. Yeah.

Let's get a second opinion before we get our third opinion from Dr. Polberg. Yeah. Tell us how that works. Because I've been curious about this forever. Brian bringing it up today. Just renewed all my interest in it. Is it worth taking? Are they stupid?

Like, where are we at? So I, so let's, I'll say this up. front, I can't really speak a whole lot to CBD. I haven't really done a lot of research into it. I haven't done a lot of CEs, so I can't really speak to CBD at all. But I can speak to you about melatonin and other sleep meds, but we'll stick to just melatonin today. Now, everybody's body's different. So we'll say that up front, you know, all the time we love to say that. And melatonin is a naturally occurring substance in your body and the levels do go up and down. Now, Brian, as you have been liking to do, you travel a lot. I do. So this could go into what is messing a little bit

with your levels. Now, melatonin levels, as far as taking a melatonin supplement, is really good, especially when you go from different, you know, different time zones and stuff. And when you're traveling and when your bedtime is a little bit different because your body naturally will spike melatonin, usually about an hour, maybe a little bit less before your normal bedtime. So if you're kind of getting back into a rhythm, getting back home, what you say from Vegas or something like that, you may want to take a little bit a little bit before your normal bedtime at home to get your body back into that rhythm. And it could help bring those levels. up and help your body naturally get

into sleep. Now, there's no real way. I mean, you're not going to take blood test every day to find out if your melatonin levels are low. This is just something that just kind of works. So it's actually not a bad idea. Now, does, I think you guys were mentioning, you know, if you give yourself melatonin, is your body going to produce it less?

Different substances, this is definitely something that's kind of come up in the last 20 years. And it is a definite possibility. I would think with melatonin, in my professional opinion, I think that's very unlikely, especially if you're not taking it, like, every, I don't really like melatonin as a supplement every single day. I like it more to use when you're coming, again, when you're either having sleep

disturbances or you are kind of traveling, getting back from like a work trip or, you know, just having jet lag and stuff like that. Other things, you know, for a while when I think it was about 20 years ago, I kind of bring this up every now and in with the calcium. Everybody was always big, you know, everybody was the huge calcium thing about 20 years ago. We got to have this much calcium all the time. And then people were telling each other to use like tums for calcium carbonate to get calcium. That's a horrible idea.

Don't do that. Don't do that. That seems odd to me. Also, thums are chalky and gross. Why would you want to take those over? Unless you did be in for heartburn. I hate taking them even when I have a stomachache. Yeah, yeah, like voluntarily.

The thought here really is, you know, get it in your body however you can. Some people will pop thumbs like their candy, you know, and some of them, you know, again, they're chocky. But some people kind of like, you know, they make those weird old candies, those little disc things that kind of almost look like and taste like thumbs. The thing is here Echo Wafers Yeah, it's cozy Oh my God, they're nasty So there is something to

You know, and I like to say When people take PPIs too much That's proton pump inhibitors Like you're ameprosol You're pentoprasol And things like that And your nexium So I think with that

There's definitely something to The possibility of Once you're doing something for your body It's going to be doing it less Now this is definitely a possibility I'm not saying it's always going to happen It's also just kind of a reason Why I don't like to tell people

to take those PPI's every single day A lot of people be like, I got to take it else or else I'll never be able to, you know, my stomach is always, you just, you just got to give your body a chance to do what it's supposed to do. Now, there's definitely uses for all these things, obviously ulcers and some gird here, but I always like to tell people, especially with things like that, and things like melatonin, when you can, get off it for a while, give your body a little bit of vacation, and then when you need it, it's going to work, you know, it's going to work wonders for you. This is exactly why sleep medicines are horrible

for you, but when you need them, they're okay. Now, I'm talking about, sleep medicine. Not talking about melatonin as a quote-unquote sleep medicine. That's a supplement that helps ease you in a sleep. Sleep medicines you're talking about Ambien, tamazepam, things like that, even things as light as Benadryl. You do not want to take those every single day between tolerance,

addiction, you know, quote-unquote addiction. It's a stigma word, but it is kind of what's happening, you know. Is that like the nose? What's the nose stuff that you can, it's not like Afrin. Afrin, right? It's not addiction, but it's more like dependent or you become, you'll

have a physical reaction without it because you're used to it. Exactly. So you get rebound congestion when you use Afrin too much where your body's clamping down because it wants that a little bit more. Now, when you use this when you're sick for three to five days and then just get off it, it's an amazing, amazing product because it does open you up. I mean, anybody that's used, they'll be like, oh, my God, I can't believe I breathe this well.

So, I mean, there are things like that that do work, but again, the washout period is important. I tell people, I mean, there are people that I see at work that they've been on Ambien every single day for years and years and years. Now, I'm telling you categorically, don't do this. I know there's going to be somebody out there who's going to yell at me. I need it every single night. You really should only be using it three to five days, never more than,

there's a reason why they want to limit you to 15 days a month. I still think that's a little bit much. Maybe 10 days a month is a good thing because, again, you've got to want to, you got to get your body not used to taking that to get to sleep. There's a lot of really good things you can do for sleep. I mean, you can decompress before sleep, get rid of all. I mean, we are a device-driven world. get off the devices for a couple hours

read something listen I have textbooks that will put you to sleep I'll bet you do yeah I'll bet you got some board games or the rule books that put you to sleep oh my god yes some of those dry solace euros and heavy euros will definitely put you to sleep yeah go out break out the the gloom haven

tome and read that thing right before bed right damn so okay so and for the record in case someone's tuning in for the very first time Dan's a pharmacist he knows this stuff as well well as anybody, uh, in the field. Uh, if, if it does, so let me ask you this on the reverse of it. So Brian had a pretty decent experience with the low dose yesterday of melatonin. Yeah. Actually, I did five, I did five milligrams before bed. Oh, okay. Did not like if I did wake up in the

middle of the night, I got back to sleep really quickly. It was not that, that like, oh, I'm awake. My mind is racing. I need to watch some avatar the last airbender to fall back to sleep. Right. So, so on the flip side of that, where I've taken it. There have been many times where I'm like, oh, let's try that. We'll see how that goes. And it does Zippo for me, nada. How long did you give it a shot for it, though, Johnson? Probably a week or something.

And it just never... That's fair. I mean, that's a good amount of time to try it out, to try it. Again, you have... Consistency is key. Take it, if you're trying to get yourself to sleep at 11 o'clock every night, take it every night about 10.15, 10.30, get your environment conducive to sleeping. Get yourself in there.

Maybe read a chapter. of something and then just try to fall asleep doing good sleep habits and good sleep hygiene as they call it will definitely help but again it's not perfect for everyone I mean if your body's not really having any problems with melatonin levels it's not to it's not a

sleep med it's not necessarily going to do that but that is something that can be a cause of why you're not getting to sleep is because your body's not being told to go to sleep but I mean you're a high drive dude and you've got a lot of crap going on and I'm sure there's a lot of stuff going on in your head you're going to take you know it might take you a little bit more of those exercises to bring yourself back down to get yourself back to high drive high drive dude is my favorite zizi top album i love that record so good i put

on repeat back in the day um all right and the other thing i was going to say about sleep there's uh some people my mother-in-law is always telling people to take magnesium zinc supplements at night so it's a it's a combo of zinc and magnesium yeah here magnesium like yeah magnesium is supposed to be really good to help you sleep as well. Does any of that work? Well, the good thing about magnesium is it helps to, it helps the body to absorb a lot of other nutrients. So this could help get your,

a lot of levels of a lot of different vitamins to back to where they should be, again, to help induce that, you know, that sleeping period where you're like, all right, your body's like, all right, we got every fuel we need. Let's conk out and we'll go with this. Oh, interesting.

I didn't realize how it was conducive to sleep. I just knew that she was always, or whether, My mother-in-law's had some ideas in the past. She was on that whole silver truck for a while where everybody had to take doses of silver. And then people started turning blue and then suddenly she stopped talking about that as if it was the miracle cure she claimed it was. So she's a little bit on the... That was a big cure for rheumatoid.

People were using a lot of that. Silver and gold is big, used to be big for rheumatoid arthritis and such. Because it works very well. But again, you're going to get heavy metal poisoning things that they do have, it's kind of really funny. So I just got back from Adam, which was... out in St. Louis. And on a flight back or while I was there, I got sick as hell for the next whole week. And my wife was giving me a dropper full of this silver crap under my tongue to switch around, which nowadays they kind of distill them, you know, you're not going to get

heavy metal poisoning from some of these different supplements they have. And this silver supplement does help for your immune system to get it up without a lot of the heavy metal side effects and things like that. And again, it's in such a microdose that it's just helping your immune system and I did that about once a day and she was taking it just to keep up to fight off all the nasty germs I brought into the house so I was uh and you know that doesn't help who the hell knows I got better whether it was from that or not but it definitely stuff like that does help a little bit uh you know as far as supplementation yeah this year's flu season was a shithead it's not fun nobody liked it was not that you ever like it but it seemed pretty rough

um all right well let's move from that to this email we got from a listener yeah it's actually a text It says, Ahoy, Scott. This is from Zarek, the Ohio-ass warlock. It's our raid team. It says, I always forget to text

or call in about this stuff and tell Dan's segment and then I think, ah, I won't be here for another month anyway. I can wait a couple of weeks. And then I always forget. Luckily, he got delayed a week,

which reminds me, L.O.L. months ago, maybe even merely a month ago or a year ago. Dan promised he'd do a list of top solo board games on a couple of occasions. And you just went to something called solo, so maybe, I don't know.

Or no, is it solo? What's it called? Adam. Sorry. I went to Adam. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't solo guitar or anything. I don't know why I thought of a solo. I knew it was four letters. Anyway, on a couple of occasions, and for whatever reason, that segment never actually happened, and I assumed it was forgotten. As someone who has a lot of opportunities to play board games with myself rather than others, I would love to hear about more solo experiences. Over the past couple of years, Marvel Legendary has been my go-to solo game. If Dan has time to actually cover this topic next week or some other future segment, I would love to hear it. Much love says Zerick. So, do you have that list? Are we ready? So let me tell you when the first thing about me, Zerick, is I'm the worst. So I'm sorry. I apologize that I never really followed through. I write these things down sometimes and then I get lost on my desk and I'm like,

oh, I got to tell Johnson and I'm in it about this and then I don't. I forget. You got the next. You got hockey. You got hockey. You got events. You got trips. You got stuff.

You're a busy guy. Yeah. Fine. So what I did was I put a good list together and I'll try to fly through a lot of these. We'll talk about a couple of these a little bit more extensive. And then I'm going to list a bunch of them. And I know Brian often. we'll put things up afterwards with some links and stuff.

So, Brian, I emailed you with the links. I have your list right here in front of me. This is great, by the way. So, yeah, you can copy and paste this into quicktm.l.i. So there's a few different things to think about, too. So there are solo-only games out there, and then there are games that you can play solo. Marvel Legendary is an amazing game to play solo.

It's got a little bit of a setup that takes a while and tear down, so you better play it a few times. And then there's games like Sentinels in a Multiverse that, you know, if you're going to play something like that solo, just use the app. I don't want to bother taking all that crap out of the, out of all the different things that I have out there. You know, you have so much stuff for a game like that, and it's so much upkeep that you just might as well just play it on the app. You know, things like that, and Spirit Island, which is another good one, but there is an app for those things. But the new Freedom Five, which just came out in December, which is in the Sentinels and Multiverse,

but it basically combines Defenders of the Realm and Pandemic all into kind of one with that Sentinels and Multiverse Sheen or, you know, or theme to. it is really, really good. There's a solo only game. One of the better ones from the last couple years is called Underfalling Skies. It almost feels like space invaders.

So you're rolling dice, kind of aliens are coming down from the top, and you're assigning your dice to different places to try and shoot down these different, the aliens, obviously.

And then there's a story mode where it's a really cool little kind of comic book feel to it and different power-ups to there. If you like games like deck building games, like Ascension and stuff like that, I love,

Ascension Tactics, which marries both Ascension and kind of a miniatures board game. It's a lot of fun. That came out a couple years ago. It's really good. Again, like you said, Marvel Legendary is really good. I'm a little biased to this one, Valeria Card Kingdoms,

because I designed the solo version of this in the final version. Now, when we originally designed it, we just really kind of wanted to make it a way to learn the game and play the game of Valeria Car Kingdoms, but play it by yourself, maybe learn the game a little bit, but there's a few different ways where you can make it a little more difficult, because it is easy, but you're just trying to learn the game and play it there.

Now, I really love, you know, Johnson even mentioned it earlier, how much I love Gloomhaven and Frost Haven. Those are great games to play, especially solo. However, they can be a little lofty solo because you're usually playing a two or three, two or three-handed. So it makes it a little bit difficult sometimes to play those. But there are other kind of dungeon crawl or campaign games that do it a lot, I'd say a lot better as far as for solo. Oridia, the paths that we may tread, is amazing. I've got it set up on my game topper over here for about the last two months. it's an amazing kind of campaign experience feeling like almost that fantasy world

controlling two players is so easy agamonia which is also a how do you spell uridia real quick what's your ready is spelling it's a r y a r y d ia i put i put dan's thing in the chat so you can just copy and paste from there oh okay cool yeah just pulling them up for people live anyway keep going dan sorry you're ready is is so good it might already be be my game of the year. That's how much fun it is to play. Whether you want to play the solo or multiplayer, but I just love, you know, when you just can't get together like a hundred or hundred times to play somebody's campaign games like Gloomaven with somebody over four years and you just want to kind of get through it over a month or two. And if you happen

to have a game topper or, you know, a game table like that to be able to set these things up. It's great to kind of leave it set up, come back to it every now and then. So Arridia and Agamonia, which is another really good fantasy one. I'm three-handing that one and it's a piece a cake. Some of them are a lot easier to do more than one hand. And when I say three-handed, that means not just playing one character, you're playing three characters at one time with one person. That's not hard at all.

Slade Aspire is one of the best games on PC ever, and the board game is just as flipping good. It was almost my game of the year last year. It's so good to play solo. It really works well. You can play a multiplayer. It takes a while, but if you like that already, I know a lot of people would be like, if I'm going to play Slate Aspire solo, I'm just going to

do it on a video game. But I agree. It's fine. But it's so good. like tabletop games, Slate Aspire, you can't beat that. Are you excited about two, by the way? Slay Aspire 2 coming out in like a couple of months is all. Oh, God, I can't wait for that to come out. I really want to see what they do a little bit different and see. It looks like they got an actual artist this time.

Somebody's doing real art for the thing. So that's nice, because that is an ugly-ass game. It's the one thing you can say about Slai-Spire. Incredible gameplay. The depth is insane. Everybody wants to copy it. They don't quite come close. Monster Train maybe is the closest I've come.

I'm enjoying it as much. But Slay the Spire's art style? Ass. It's ass. It's ass. Monster Train 2 demo is out too, by the way, Scott. I know, dude. I love Monster Train so much.

I'm very excited about that. Oh, it's so good. Yeah, yeah. If you're a sports type person, there's a game called 11. That's a football or soccer, if you're a crazy American like us. There's a football, you can play this solo. It's kind of a simulator GM simulation. It's called 11.

It's by Portal Games. It's really good. a bunch of expansions for it, and it just plays seamlessly solo. I have a lot of fun playing that one. I am a huge heavy weight Euro player, so I love all heavy games, and the thing about those is sometimes they can be

they're not Johnson games, and while they are definitely Ibbett games, I'd love to see if Ibit really likes some of these really heavy ones. I was going, there is probably a limit to the heavy games that I like. But we have to perpetuate the stereotype, Brian. We have to keep

it going that I'm the dumb guy. And the Brian's got this. Johnson, are you going to want to sit down to learn a three-hour game about a zoo? No, no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.

Yeah, exactly. So you have to learn those games in there. They're a lot quicker once you learn them. And also, Arknova is available on BGA. If anybody wants to play that solo on there. But it plays really, really good solo and multiplayer. But it's one of my favorite solo games. And there's an expansion out now, which adds a lot of good things to Arkno.

So that's Archnova. So that's Ark Nova, which is great. And then my game of the year from last year, which is called SETI, that's the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. It's ridiculously good. It is also about two and a half to three hours long, but it's awesome. So both of these games kind of take a little bit from the terraforming Mars, you know, lineage, if you will, with multi-use cards, kind of creating a tableau of things, but they play so well.

SETI plays great solo. You're playing against kind of an AI, you know, that kind of gets in your way, and they have multiple different levels of, you know, of the difficulty as far as that it gets in your way, whereas Arknova is more of kind of a score over a certain amount of time. SETI is more playing the regular game of five rounds, but you're trying,

but the AI is getting in the way and giving you things you need to get done. Both of those games are amazing solo. Things like Roland Wrights, you know, things like Gonshon clever, that's so clever. Love, gosh. Yeah, I love that so clever. And the sequel, the purple. I got the blue box and the purple box,

whatever the purple there's uh that that's so clever more so clever triple so clever i think there's four or five of them now almost every one of them are available on an app so they're perfect to play on an app solo and they're really addictive and they're a perfect toilet solo game because you can knock out a game of gonchion clever in like you know in like five in a small poop you can get rid of you know play a whole game of that but um cartographers is another really good rolling right which can play solo uh things like fleet to dice game and three sisters which are a little heavier rolling right or flipping right type games. They're a really, really good solo.

There is another great kind of dice solo game that came out by chip theory games. It's called 20 Strong. You're basically kind of a dice chucker and your dice is your life. Man, it is so good. But you played that one? I have played that one. Yeah, big thanks to Chip Theory games for sending me a copy of that one. Love it.

Now, there's like three different kind of little mini expansions that there might be more now, but there's three that I have that kind of change it up a little bit. There are varying degrees of difficulty in each one of those. They even have kind of the, oh my God, too many bones is one of them, which is really good, but it's really hard. But it's really good. I mean, it's fun dice chucker. You just kind of set it up, roll some dice. I think Hipploaccus is another one of their other ones that was really good as far as the 20 Strong.

I can't stress those enough. If you already like kind of the Marvel theme, Marvel Champions plays really well, whether you're playing with one hero or multiple heroes, and it just plays really good. And there's so many damn heroes out for it, so many damn expansions out. for it as far as and great for solo play uh absolutely great game uh if you do like the kind of a little bit more intense or kind of maybe depth ones nemo's war we all love 20,000 leagues under the sea but if you want to play as nemo in a solo game it's a little weighty but people really dig nemo's war for that kind of great uh you know the deep gameplay are any of these games are they are any of them non multi there none of these are like exclusive solo games or is that

even a thing. So far, the only ones I mentioned that are... 20 strong is solo. 20 strong is all solo all the time? All solo. Yep. And so is underfalling skies. And the last only solo one I mentioned is Final Girl.

This is where you're playing kind of as like the, I guess, heroin, you know, trying to stay away from the, uh, a killer in like a Jason type of thing. And it's a solo only game. That is amazing. Uh, they put out a bunch of different versions for this, uh, for Final Girl. it's really good. Transformers deck building game and GI deck building game

both play solo better than you could ever possibly imagine but they're really, really good to play solo and then an old classic I'll finish up here I've got two more real quick Mage Knight is an old classic that is a big time sprawling

kind of fantasy game it is a little heavier they have an ultimate edition that is a classic to play solo and then when it came out a couple years ago lost ruins of Arnaq which is kind of deck building in a board game

fashion is one of my favorite games. This is one of these really cool things. Publishers are really starting to get into the fact that people love solo and solo campaigns. So on their CGE, on their app, and on their kind of web store, they have a solo campaign that you can play right there with having the Lost Rooms of Arnach, and then they've put out other expansions that have had other great kind of solo content and solo campaigns way to play. These games are just amazing solo.

I hope just check out any of them. If you ever have any questions about it. Adam always hit me up. I'm now on Instagram, guys. I don't know what's gotten into me. I'm on Instagram now at The Geek All-Stars. So if anybody has any questions about games or solo games, I've always said that I don't stay on Twitter out of any sort of reason other than the fact that I'm old and lazy. And I don't really like to get into a million different socials. It's not a stance on anything. It's just because it's what I've done for however many years. Sure. So now after being back from Adam, everyone was like, what's your Insta? What's your Insta? I'm like, all right. I'll start another one. If everybody can please go out and follow me on Instagram to give me a reason to just keep posting some stuff. I've been putting some, you know, some reviews up lately as far as just pictorial reviews of things that I played at them a couple weeks ago. So yeah, so hopefully I know I talk fast to everybody. I like to get into a lot of things.

But with when, you know, when Ibit gets those links, you know, the post up, I've got a bunch of links to BGG on them. They're posted. Yeah. Yeah, it's all on quicktMS. And it's a great list. I mean, I've been going through a couple of these until I picked up the cat. But, no, these are great. These look great.

How was Adam? I hear good things about that event, that show. Do you like it? So it's really cool. It's called, it's the Agora for Tabletop opinionated Mines, and we had a great time. It's at that Gamer's Ranch, which is in Missouri. That place is ridiculous, how big it is. And it's even better when you see it in person.

It's got like its own man-made lake. It's got a disc golf course on there. and it's got 3,000 games, pinball machines, a big, huge Lego table, a PS5, they've got a little miniatures painting station, it's unreal. And then all the people, great kind of content creators, both new and old, came out there. Man, we just had an absolute blast. Sounds like a good time, yeah.

I just keep hearing, like, great stuff about it as an event, and, you know, I know it's not new. What's cool is, so guys like us, I mean, you guys have obviously been around forever, and I've been doing the GeekyllS since 2011. We're very old. We are all old. But it's interesting when you see, you know, there's obviously the old guard and a new guard. So there's only a couple people that I knew going into Adam. And it was like 25 content creators and publishers.

And meeting so many new people, you know, it's, I don't want to say new. They're kind of new. When you say new to the content space, maybe within the last five years where we've been, you know, I've been doing this since 2011 for the Geek All Stars. When you meet kind of newer people, seeing their reactions to kind of being part of the scene for that amount of time, people that, you know, that, you know, that. the commonplace people that you know each, you know, you each know from different ways. And it, uh, it sounds cliche, but it's reinvigorating, you know, your love for content creation where sometimes things can get commonplace or I want to say stale, but you just kind of go through the motions and doing, you know, you're still enjoying what you're doing and hopefully

putting out good content, but just kind of talking to new, again, I don't want to put anybody down by calling them new. That's not what I'm trying to do, but just newer people to me that I maybe have never heard of. And, you know, we knew to the content space. It was a, amazing to to meet such great people and you know create such good friendships yeah no that's awesome plus you're you know old hat in that world and they're probably like oh it's dan i'm gonna go talk to dan he's the geek jock guy he doesn't like new social media networks but he's cool i really want to talk to him no i love the new social media networks i'm just uh i'm just too lazy to create no i get it when you get in following and who wants to start in zero i'm with you dude i

freaking hate it too i wish we could all just settle on one and i don't know if that's ever going to happen. But the fact that it's just now that an Instagram account is happening tells me how long you all get to wait for his Blue Sky account for any of these others. I actually have a Blue Sky account too. I haven't done anything on air at all but I did reserve my Blue Sky. I am the geek also as a blue sky. So hey, if you want to get me over there, follow me and give me a reason to get my butt over there. Yeah, at least two, three years from now. When you can see that's zero. Exactly. It's daunting to see Zero as a follower listener like, I'm never going to do this. It is a little, daunting. I agree with that. We've got to make sure you're added to the one-click

lists where people can follow. Oh, the starter packs, yeah. Starter packs, yeah, let's make sure that I'll talk to Tanner about adding you to the starter packs. Yes, I appreciate it. Because we've got like three frog-pants starter packs, and I don't think you're on one, so we'll make sure you get on there. It's pretty cool because they can just mass-follow everybody with one-click. It's really great. Oh, that's awesome. Well, and it's like I said earlier, I'm the worst. So, I mean, if they're not following through with these lists, I'm just the worst. You don't want to follow it.

That's all good. Should me a link to your thing after the show here and I'll make sure you get in good. Absolutely. Sweet. Appreciate it, boys. Thanks, man. Have a fantastic month to we see you again. And may all your board games have minimal documentation.

Bye now. All right. There's that. Darn right. Yep. Okay. Only real note I have here at the end is skim today at noon. All right.

If you're like, man, I sure would like to hear a married. couple talk bullshit uh good news noon today mountain time prognance dot tv kim and i'll be recording a live show so come check us out if you are so inclined uh that's going to do it for today's show uh quicktms dot l i is where brian just put all that information so zirik and everyone else interested in that solo list you can get it there i know it's a lot to take in on audio so make sure you go check it out on uh on the links just just watching you try and keep up typing with all the stuff he was going through was oh it was brutal i couldn't do it i gave up after a while. It's too many.

But then everything else can be found at frogpants.com slash TMS, including that new hot way to contact us. That's right. All the kids are talking about it. Voicecast. Dot app slash TMS. Voicemails, texts, and more. Not really. It's just those two things.

But they're great and it's easy and it's free and you don't have to sign up or anything. It's just so dumbly easy. I freaking love this thing. So go use it and use it frequently. That's going to do it for us today. Brian, let's play a song and get them that F out of here. Let's do that. Talia wrote in. She said, uh, high, scrupulous and biblical. I'm getting married on Friday. At the end of the

week, I'll be in a room with a small audience getting hitched to the love of my life, Sarah. Since we're both gay and nerds, we connected over the requested song during our relationship. So this was a no-brainer to be included as one of the songs will play at our small ceremony. I'll leave it to the totally not a coward to make the final decision, but whatever he chooses ought to be pretty. I adore la Ceree, I'm sure I butchered that. Sintali.

Nice. Well, congratulations, first of all. That's so awesome. That's great. Grat, you guys. I didn't even know that was happening. So that's really good to hear. Love that.

Yeah, yeah. All right. So, not a coward. That's fine. That's fine. I'm going with this one right here. This is the promise, Sarah's theme from Final Fantasy 8. And I'm sorry, 13, 8.

V, not X. I mean, X, not V. Final Fantasy 13. This is performed by Yui Morisita, and you can find it actually on the Square YouTube site. Really, really cool piano cover of The Promise. Here is Yui Morishita. I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I don't know I'm going to

I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm you know I'm

You know, the And... ...you know, ...and... ...you know ...and... ...and...

...and... I don't know I'm going to be I'm going to I'm going to I'm going Don't know I'm trying to

I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm going to So, you know, the I don't know.

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