The Morning Stream - TMS 2797: A Distant Turd

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Found a Vein, You Probably Think This Blood is About You. Barely Food. Can I Have That Black Crayon Now. Sloan Malone Ramone. Real Ibbotts Do Wear Plaid. In Tolbert We Trust. The Sedona doughnut. Nillanananutters. Crunchy Hornets. Fig Newton of your Imagination. No sugar, no flies and no Lt. Yar!!! Turtle Shell jock strap. Gimme the Harley phlebotomist. The dog went to live on a farm upstate... where they shot him. Yay, Dog Heaven with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's no such thing as ghosts, and there's no such thing as little green aliens, but there is such a thing as little green alien ghosts. Don't believe me, sign up for patreon.com slash TMS and find out the truth. Coming up on the morning stream, found a vein. You probably think this blood is about you. It's barely food. Can I have that black crayon now? Sloan Malone Ramon. Real Ibits do wear plaid. And Tolbert, we trust. The Sedona donut. Hill and men and nutters. Crunchy hornets.

Sig Newton of your imagination. No sugar, no flies, and no lieutenant y'ar. Turtle shell jock strap. Give me the Harley phlebotomist. The dog went to live on a farm up state where they shot him. Yay, dog heaven with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Professor, you amaze me. Is that the best you can come up with? I believe it's your beef we're eating.

M-M-S-D-D-M-S-S-D-D-M-S-S-D-D. The Morning Stream, Monkey Watt-A-Vee. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for March 20th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibbott. Hello, Brian.

Oh, hello. Hi. We got two-20s in the day today. We got a 20 and then a 20-25. Oh, look at that. 2020, 20, 25 to go. I want a bit sedated. Man, you know, that song, I know that's like a, it was like a huge hit.

So, of course, it got played a ton. But I really like it any time I hear it. I do too. Bring it on. It's great. No problem. I am an unapologetic fan, huge fan of the Ramones. I know, you know, they say the Ramones have one song, but it's very, very good.

Yeah. If you like that one song, you like the Ramones. But if you don't, then, you know. I think the rest of the, I think if you like that one, the rest of the, the rest of the catalog goes down easier, goes down smoother. It easily does, right? And Blitzkrieg Bob is another like tent poles, another one of their tent poles like Rock and a little high school. But it is all the same. Rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock in a high school.

If anything, that sounds like there. Blat, blah, blah, blah, want to be sedated, you know, basically. The high school one always sounded like. They were reaching back to the 50s a little bit, you know, a little B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B type kind of vibe to it. And whatever, the Ramones are great. Joey and the others. Joey, D.D., Nikki, uh,

Sloan Malone, uh, Carl, Carl Malone, I loved him on the band, Carl Malone. Yeah, uh, Aaron. Jeff Malone. Marky, I know Marky was a Ramon. Yeah, Marky, Roan. I have a new photo for you. I love a new youthful photo of Brian. Please share.

This is Brian at, you saw this one with a lot of glare and crap yesterday, but now you've got full, full quality. Now this kid behind you, are they taking their shirt off? Are they putting it on? I think she's wearing, I think she's wearing a tank top and she's just scratching her ribs. Her ribs. Okay. And do we know anyone else in this group?

Is this lady with the camera anybody? I don't know anyone else, but it looks like I've got a, you know, a teenage girl with a little crush on me. Or maybe she just likes the starfish I'm holding. I think she's way into your starfish. Or maybe your Star Wars, your Star Wars shirt, perhaps. She might be. She's absolutely eyeing that Star Wars shirt. So there it is, Starfish, man.

Nerd Cread locked in. Oh, yeah. Yeah, heck yeah, that and a starfish. You got two stars? Those pants, though, can we talk about your pants or your shorts? What do we got going here? What do we get this plaid? Oh, look at those.

Plad. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Look at that business. Yeah, that's, that smells like 70s. And my expression, of course, like, huh? Oh, man. This is great. I love it. All these people just look like a certain error to me, you know. Lady over on the right side trying to figure out her new fangled camera. Yeah, she seemed a little confused. I hope she got it worked out in the end.

But she's like, no, wait a minute. What does that do? and that's the thing you would get for the gen z's in the audience uh you used to have to send that there was a thing inside of it that you'd have to take out uh you had to be careful don't expose it to light and then you had to put it in a little canister and then you had to take it to a place that kept it for sometimes up to a week because yeah the one hour photo stuff hadn't really happened yet no gosh no yeah you went to a little a little standalone um little standalone hut in the parking lot of your grocery store. Yep.

Yep. You dropped off your film and then said, see in a week or two. It was often, it was sometimes called the photo hut, literally. The photo hut or the photo mat. And do you know when your film was ready? Nope. You just had to keep going there and saying, hey, do you have photos ready for I-B-B-O-T-T? No, okay, see you in a couple days.

Yep. And if they said a week, you would go a little later than that because you just assume they weren't going to be ready early. So you just show up and hope they were done. And you would hope that they didn't, like, steal any of them or, you know, keep any double, keep negatives to some of it or any of that. Like, it was just a Wild West kind of photo day. That's what we did then. Yeah. You didn't know.

Do you remember in the early? Yeah. You didn't know. Do you remember the early days of the one hour photo places? Sometimes they'd be in a mall. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And there was one specifically.

in Westminster Mall that basically you go and you drop your film off and then they've got like a machine that they put right in the front of the of the place up at the window

so you can actually see oh look at that people's pictures are coming out which was really funny until my friend Laura decided she was going to take a bunch of lingerie shots

for like beauty glamour lingerie shots for her boyfriend. Boudoir photos. And then have them developed at the one hour photo. And she's like, yep, those totally came down the little conveyor belt right in front of everybody at the mall who might stop there and watch. I mean, who thought that was, well, I mean, obviously they weren't thinking ahead. But somebody thought that was a great idea that we all wanted to see each other's photos

come out of there, like you're making taffy or something. It's almost like you're, I mean, you're looking at an Instagram stream, basically, is what you are is the feed. You're looking at somebody's feed is the modern day equivalent. Weird. It was a weird time, you guys. A weird time. And you couldn't see if your photo was any good until you waited for the damn thing

to be done. And then you found out if you even took it well or if it was blurry. You didn't know. There was no preview. There's no delete it. There was no take five of them and pick the best one. There was no take one photo and then scrubbed through it to find the best focus. There was none of that.

Right. You couldn't hold down the key. Well, maybe you could on. special cameras hold down your shutter and go but guess what you used up a whole roll of film that way yeah yeah and that was expensive for the time anyway my dad was a was a bit

of a photographer and he had those little canisters were all over our house we had tons of yeah those film bees yeah and I loved them because they were empty I can't remember they were called I remember they were just great because they had a little plastic lid and it was if you're a little kid and you'd like keeping rocks or little shells

and you know trinkety things perfect little containers for that Yeah. Yeah. When you get older, it's good for keeping you. Great top. Keep your weed in there. I'm sure.

Yeah. I never did that. Put Pachinko balls in there and there's so many, like, so many things like that. I still have a couple left somewhere when my dad's just laying around. Yeah. And we've got bags of slides. My dad was convinced that slides, photo slides, like in a slide projector, like freaking, you know, madmen style. he thought that was the future, the present, the future, and the all-time way that photos were going to be stored and used and displayed.

So all of it we have to convert. Like I've got bags of slides. I need to get a slide scanner because that's the only copy of these photos we have is these different slides. And at some point, at some volume of slides, it's way cheaper to just buy a scanner than it would be to pay somebody to do it. Yeah, because you didn't take them in places, right? Exactly, but, you know, if it was like 100 slides, yeah, pay somebody to do it. If it's a thousand slides or more than that, then just buy a slide scanner. Yeah, Carter's, I think Tay's going to get one and we're going to, because we have so many, it's worth, it'll be worth it.

We're just going to have her do all of them. If you can do it fast enough, Amazon has a 30-day return policy. Oh, that's true they do. Yeah. Okay, don't do anybody. be ready to hit the ground running on that. Okay. This is good.

So, go ahead. Guys, I whispered it. So now nobody heard that. Oh, no, it's not on the internet or anything. It's just us.

We're in our pre-meeting still, right? We're not even talking to the regular people. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, Hey,

everybody, welcome to the show. Amazon won't take, we'll take resin back if it's cured. So I can't send back, send resin things that I've printed back to Amazon. Yeah, if it goes all lumpy, you can't just pack it up and send it. That'd be real.

It would be a real pain. Well, well, see you all. Hope you're all well. And we're going to get it. We'll get right to it. My sister is here today. So Wendy's back. We'll have a little therapy Thursday later in the show. So that'll be fun. And I don't think, all right, how do I say this without sounding rude? We live in a modern society with all sorts of helping devices. We have phones. We have maps. We have digital resources that help us find places. And there are companies whose entire existence is based on

quickly finding a place and delivering something. Examples. DoorDash, freaking Grubhub, and not even just food ones. What's the other one that will just bring household items to you?

Well, Uber Eats brings anything. Oh, that's right. I did, I had to do for an Uber ride. I had to go to a Walgreens buy aspirin and two bottles of Gatorade and take it to somebody who I'm assuming was just having the hangover from hell. Oh, yeah. Is Gatorie? Good for that? Oh, I guess it is. Electrolite and all that. Electrolites, yeah.

Yeah. Somebody was hurling. Yeah. What's the other one? There's, there's one called shit. It just delivers anything? Yeah, it's not, but they don't do food. It's like, ah, whatever it is. Anyway, I used to know the name of this thing. But these exist. They've been around for a long time. And you know what was there before them? Pizza guys who would bring your pizza. They somehow knew how to get to your house and go to the front door. Somehow these things all work together. But yesterday, I'm kind of on my own for lunch because they're babies here. Everybody's swamp busy. There's no time for anything. I can't go anywhere. I'm like, fine.

I try to avoid using these things because they just, you know, you big gouge it. They pay extra fees and all that. But I was like, I'm going to do Grubhub. It's cheaper a little bit because I have Amazon Prime and now Grubhubb is Prime. You know, I think it would be the monthly thing for free. Right of the same. Yep. So I just figured I'd do that.

And I'm like, you know, I'm in the mood for Taco Bell. Let's see that cravings menu. let's just get over the limit of 10. Like, I don't need anything fancy. So give me two of those little beef burritos and two of those tacos. That's how they get you to. It's like, oh, I could go, I could get what I want for just like three bucks. But if I get 10, then I save X amount on delivery or whatever.

Exactly. Yeah, if you do 10 minimum, then you don't pay the fees that are usually on top of the fees. Plus these prices, they jack them up for this anyway. It's all kind of a scam. The whole thing is a scam. but you know in a pinch i get why it has some values so i do this and i pick out my items and it's two of these tacos these uh the kind with the sour cream what are they called taco supreme and i get crunchy or soft uh crunchy in this case yeah good good choice it always sort of depends

i get crunchy when it's delivery because if they do sit for a while in somebody's car they're less likely to get all gooey whereas the yeah the other ones sit around like if i get a soft taco doesn't sit around. Like, if I get a soft taco with my Taco Bell as a combo and I'm driving, I'm eating that soft taco in the car because a cold soft taco gets horrendous. It's terrible. It gets slimy and wet. It's not good.

So you're absolutely right. So that's what I did there. And then I got two of those little beef tacos. So the whole thing was just over $10 or something. And then plus whatever tip and that. And normally it's fine. But I waited way longer than they told me it was going to be. Fine.

Whatever. DT&S coming up in 10 minutes. I can scarf all this down if they hurry up and get here. Shows the cars on its way. And then there's this nebulous period of where is this car? What is going on? Why are they? Why are they not out front?

Now, this house, I've been in this house personally for 10 years. It's been here since 2007 or 06. It's when the house was built. So plenty of time for the whole world to know how the address is around here work. This guy, this guy or lady. The number is actually on the front side of your house. Oh, yeah, for sure. numbered outside. There's

mailboxes with addresses on them, all this stuff. And I get the thing that says, your thing's arrived. I'm like, sweet. Let's go eat. I'm starving. I go to the front door, open the thing. There's a stray cat and nothing else. Like, what's going on? And the stray cat's always there. He's always looking for handouts

because Carter's softy. Sure. Sure. Her name is honey. I hate her name. Anyway, she's a nice kitty, but she sometimes climbs on me when I don't want her to and then gets very skittish, very quickly. It's that kind of cat. She loves you, though.

She likes me, and I like her, and I treat her well and all that, and I'll feed her if I see her. But she's just like this feral cat that lives outside. And it's not the cat has done anything. The food is just straight up not there. And they normally have to send a photo, right? Sure. Like, here it is on your porch. No photo.

Nothing. All I'm getting is the text saying, how was your order? Like all the things that I can't answer yet because I can't find the damn food. Yeah. So I'm like, well, did they do the wrong house? and by the way, there's like a three quarters an inch to an inch of snow on everything

at that time of day. For whatever reason, that yesterday was the day we got a bunch of snow and it was pretty thick out there. And so I sat there from me and I thought, it's just like the FedEx guy,

did they go around the back and put it back there? Like you never would have any... Exactly, Brian. There is no... There's no answer to that question. It's footsteps in the snow, right? If that's the case.

Well, so I go around there. Check the back porch that we never use because it's just the way the house is arranged. It's not the kind of back. We have a patio backyard thing that's off to the side of the garage. And then over here on the very rear where that one guy's dog poops on our lawn way out too often. It's just not a door we go through very often. If anything, it's like screen door, air coming through or something. But we just don't use it.

I have a tree that's a little overgrown there. It's a weird place for anybody to put anything. And yet there's my bag in the snow, soaking the water up through the bag, into the food. sitting there. There's no reason to do this. The front access is so easy. I don't know why they're back there at all. Like we have a weird alley system. It's close it to the car. It doesn't make any sense to me. So I get it. I open it. Of course, everything's soaked through. Like there's water like halfway up the bag. The food's still warm and I'm like, whatever. I'll just eat it. But they shorted me one of the tacos still charged me for it. So I got a refund on that. But it just was this reminder of like, you know, I could have just, with as long as it took, why didn't I just take the keys, get in the car, go over there? I just didn't want to go out in the snow. I didn't want to deal with it.

I thought this would be an easy, convenient thing. You know what? Sometimes the lazy choice is just the wrong effing choice. And I paid for it, you know? Exactly. Yeah, I can't, I don't, I don't, yeah, it's the extra cost that, that shoo me off of that, but I know you get the, with the prime deal, you get, you get a huge, huge discount. Yeah, it's a decent deal. It's, but it's still better if I go get it. I don't have to pay the tip. I don't have to pay whatever incremental increase in the price. Some places don't know who they are, but Taco Bell does do that. McDonald's jacks up their prices on there.

And it's that tip that even might even determine whether or not you get your food or not. Like, yeah, I know, I'm sorry. I'm even going to say, I've done it too. If I turn on Uber Eats in my app, like, you know, it's around dinner time. I'm like, oh, you know what? I'll do a little food delivery. I've got the drink holder and the padded bag and stuff. But if it's, oh, $2 to take this Jimmy John's eight minutes into town, I'm not doing it. Two bucks?

I'm totally not doing it. And that comes up a lot. Yeah, I'll bet it does. default it comes up with is the decent tips like 20% the but you can switch it to a lower one i kept it at the default i didn't go higher yeah and if they had got a decent job i you can do the increase the tip i i would have done it afterwards yes i would have done that but this guy didn't a didn't know where my house was or where the front freaking door is it's right there is it's in the front you can't detract the tip for for delivering it to the wrong door in the snow soaking the bag exactly that's the

problem with pre-tipping is you haven't had the experience. Yeah, Disturbed Angel and chat room nails it. It's not a tip. It's a bid for service. Yeah. For tax reasons. 100%. It's stupid. It is stupid to tip for anything before you get the service delivered. Yeah. Absolutely. It is. You should never tip for anything until you've had the thing that you're tipping for. Exactly. That's not a crazy sounding thing that just came out of my mouth. That is normal. Right? No, it's absolutely normal. Yes. Anyway, I'm not doing that for a while. that sucked ass i should have gotten jimmy johns or something that would have been easier and they have their own delivery and they don't do any fees they just do it uh anyway so there's that

uh oh something we missed yesterday because we ran out of time oh yeah it's a little longer and that's why i wanted to make sure it got a little wide berth here but we had we talked about good sleep hygiene and melatonin and whether it worked and all that the other day and dr tollbert said oh i'm going to send something in and uh we all went yeah dude do it and he did so it's like this two-minute call, but I feel like we're going to get more information here that even your primary caregiver may, they may not even have this information. I don't know. I just in Tolbert I trust is my motto. 100%. So here it is. Let's play it and see what he says about your sleep patterns. Everybody take notes. Here you go. Good morning. Jens, your friendly neighborhood

family doc swinging by to answer the questions from the March 18th episode of TMS. Brian was asking about the use of melatonin to help with sleep. And while Dan's answer contained most of the things that I would say, there are a few things that I would add. First and foremost, the amount of melatonin that it takes your brain to actually help you get ready for sleep is so small that a milligram of the medicine is sufficient for most folks. We can't absorb a lot through the intestine and most of what we take in as part of a supplement is going to be digested and just used for extra proteins to build other things. In general, the amount of melatonin that makes it to the brain is still in the picogram range, so very, very small amounts. And that's okay because that's all

it really takes to help. As Dan said, it's really great for helping with resetting the timeline. and helping you get back to a normal bedtime if you're traveling between time zones. But in general, the only studies that have been done that showed any real significant effect showed a very small improvement in how long it takes to fall asleep and for how long you sleep during the night. It doesn't really keep you asleep that much longer. And it's not going to help you fall right back to sleep if you wake up in the middle of the night. The good news is most of the other stuff that Dan talked about in terms of sleep hygiene can absolutely help with that. And it's good to know that our sleep is actually typically going to be in two cycles, which means it's okay to have a

three or four hour cycle, a time where you're awake for an hour or two, and then back to sleep for three or four hours, as long as you're getting both of those cycles in their entirety. So make sure that if you take the melatonin, you take a small amount, you're not in any risk of it shutting down what your brain naturally produces, and make sure that you set up the room where you're sleeping to be pretty dark, pretty quiet and pretty cool, anywhere between 68 and 72 degrees Fahrenheit is the average air temperature we do best with. And make sure that you try to ramp down the lights in your house, similar to what would be happening at sunset, about an hour before you go to sleep. That should help keep everything ready so that you can fall right to sleep

and stay that way long term. As always, if you have other questions, don't hesitate to page me. Oh, that's a really good... It says there's more, but it ain't playing. Why? Oh, weird. Yeah. It sounded like the end. Yeah, there's just a big blank thing on the end. All right, I don't know what that is. For some reason, this thing had trouble encoding his call, and I don't know why. It's just total one-off. Not important, no. Yeah. I like the, I don't know why I don't think about doing this. Like, we've got our lights in the living room above the TV where we spend the last few hours of our day.

I don't know why I don't have A-L-E-X-A ramp those down at a certain time because easily I could do that. I could say, all right, at 9 o'clock, about an hour before we go to bed, drop them down because we already have them at 50%. You know, drop them down to 30%. And then half an hour before bed

down to 20% or something. That'd probably be really good for us. For some reason, I fall asleep with my life, my lamp on. And I shouldn't do that. It's an accident. I'm not doing it on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. You're teaching yourself to sleep with light. And I can't imagine that's good. No, I can't be good. Right. But also, you know what made me feel good. If you wake up a couple of times in the night and then go back to sleep, it's not necessarily a bad thing and maybe not even an abnormal thing. That's good to know because I always feel like it shouldn't happen.

It feels like I want to be like a baby and never get up, you know? Right. But maybe that's No, it's not the waking up and going back to sleep. That I'd be totally fine with it. It's the waking up and not going back to sleep. But I will say, since I've been doing this week, since my physical on Monday, I've done five milligrams of melatonin before bed. And all three nights, I have slept either all the way until roughly the time I get up or maybe half an hour before I usually get up, which is fine. I'll take it. or if I did wake up in the middle of night,

I was able to get back to sleep a lot easier. So maybe it was a placebo. Maybe it's really doing something. But it is interesting. My doctor even told me it's way better to use the melatonin that you melt under your tongue, those little dissolvable tablets, than it is to do the capsules. And unfortunately, for the 5 milligrams, all we have are the capsules,

which means it goes down to digest. Yeah. And then like Jerry was saying, a very little amount might make it back up to the brain. So having it stay up, I guess having it stay up close to where it can hit the brain, dissolving under your tongue is far better. Is it called sublingual, they call it, I think. Is that what it's called?

Yeah, we put it under your tongue. I had a doctor have me do. I was low on B or some B vitamin. And she says, here, take these. Don't swallow them. They're the kind you put under your tongue. They absorb better. I assume she was right because my next blood test showed

I was back to normal, but yeah, and I was peeing yellow. I was peeing as yellow as a shirt. Anyway, last night doesn't count though, because we had a baby sleep over last night. Yeah, you can't right, exactly. Extenuating circumstances. And she slept good. Oh, look at you. You can probably take that off. I think I could probably take this off now.

Was that just this morning that you went in? Oh, it was. Oh, the hair. Yeah, the hair. It's always the hair. Oh, Lordy. Yeah. Ah, there you go. Get that hair out of it. Oh, geez. Rip it off like something.

I don't know what they say you rip it off like, but we'll take this Band-Aid off and just we'll rip it off like something. Any trouble hunting for veins? Are we all good on that front? No, he was good. Dude looked like he probably drove a Harley to work, the phlebotomist. But dude found a vein instantly, and he says, all right, doing our right? I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not looking.

I'm fine if I don't look. But, you know, I can watch. the last 18 minutes of the substance and not have a problem, but if I look over at that, I'm graying out. Yeah, for whatever reason, it's looking at your own, it's your own blood, your own. It's your body is saying, oh, that's not right. Yeah, that shouldn't come out of there.

That should be in there is where that should be. That's right. So no double tap. He didn't have to redo anything. They did not have to double tap. Nope, one in. Well done. I assume two bottles by the motions I was feeling on my arm.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even like looking at the bottles when they're done because they're just so dark. It's so much of it. Yeah. It's almost like tar. It didn't look like that in the Alfred Hitchcock films.

It looked more like chocolate syrup. Yeah, it is weird to see. But that's great. And you'll get your results in a couple of days. And this is a thing people should be doing. So in the last couple of weeks, we've demonstrated a couple of things. One, get your colonoscopies done at the proper time, 45, go in there and get it done. Get screened.

Do all your good screenings. Ladies, get your boobs pinch. in the unit deal. Is that called mammogram? The latest episode of St. Dennis Medical shows Wendy McLevin Covey, who is a comic genius. And we've all known that for a long time since Reno 9-1-1. We've all known how fantastic she is. But Mom Goldberg and all the other things that she's done, she basically has to go through

the process of a mammography on St. to St. Dennis Medical is kind of like a demonstration of what you have to, you know, why all women should do this. And oh, my God, stop this machine. Stop this machine right now. Turn it off. Stop it. That's great. I need to see it. I love her. And then she's done it. She goes, all right. See, that's how easy it was. And they say, wait, you've got one. We have one more. We have to do the other side. She's like, I know how many boobs I have. Yeah, that's an uncomfortable one. I know that. I mean, I haven't done it, but my wife has extolled its, it's non-virtues many times, but get that stuff done and then Brian with the panel.

She might especially like this latest episode. Do you guys watch it? No, we want to, though. It's right up our butts. Like, this is absolutely a show we want to see. We just haven't yet. Get an episode of night. It is like the best, uh, the best palette cleanser show.

No matter what dark shit you might watch for for most of your night, watch that. And it's like, oh, all is, all is right in the world because this is so damn funny. Is it all the, it's done, season, season's finished or whatever, first season? No, I think they still might have a few episodes left in the season, but, um, I mean, you, you got me into watching Superstore and, um, so those creators, right? Same, same, same, exactly, and same feel. Um, they don't have, the only bummer is they don't have the interstitials that were so damn hilarious, um, like they were on Superstore. Like how in between all the stories, you would just have shots of random customers, like going up to the deodorant aisle, looking around rubbing some deodorant on their armpits and then putting it back on the shelf kind of thing. Yeah, harder to do in a... They probably could work it out, but yeah, I get that.

Yeah, we need to start it. I forgot what it's on. Hulu or something or where is this? It's on Hulu, yeah. Okay, yeah, I need to watch it. We got another call. This is about soup. Yeah, soup.

Yeah, it's also based on the conversation we had. Let's check it out. Yo, TMS guys, this is nerd magic in the Discord chat. Just listen to your story about mom and John and the soup discussion, mishearing the soup, and it reminded me of a story with my own grandparents. You know, I was little kids sitting on the floor playing with Legos. They're getting ready for their big trip to Arizona, and grandma's on the couch looking at a map. And she calls out to him, hey, where's Sedona, like Sedona, Arizona?

And he goes, it's in the refrigerator. And she says, no, what? No, where's Sedona? And he says, it's in the refrigerator. You want me to get it for you? She goes, what is? He goes, the donut. She says, no, where's the donut?

He says, do you not hear me? Yeah, fun stuff. Gotta love grandparents. Cheers. Yeah, man. That's basically the same problem. Fantastic. Oh, my God.

It's such a, was it a, it was definitely a Muppet thing, wasn't it? There was something that was just like that? Like, where's, not Sedona specifically, but it was. just like that. It was like, where's Sedona? I don't remember. Check the refrigerator. You can picture the Muppets doing it back and forth. Maybe a Sesame Street thing?

Maybe it's Muppets. Maybe. I'm having a weird memory of that too, but I can't take a, I can't even think of whom Muppah. I mean, this was always happening with Grover and that guy trying to order food, that sort of thing, right? Right. Yeah. But I don't think it was that. It was something else. And then the, and then it always ended with something like, oh, why didn't you just say where's Sedona or something like that?

Yeah. I can't remember. Maybe it was Bert and Ernie. They could have been. Easily could have been. Those two are always dicking with each other. Sideboard dude with a correction. It's on Peacock. Of course it is because it's an NBC.

Oh, it's an NBC deal. Okay. Cool. Indemance Medical on Peacock. I got the Peacock for six months for 99 cents because I threatened to leave. That's such a great deal. Yeah. Oh, by the way, they don't let you, well, Paramount.

So Paramount did the same thing for me. They gave me like, hey, we got an offer for you. Six months for a buck or whatever. And I went, sweet. And then I set an alarm at the end of that six months, which just happened, that I would go and try to cancel again see what it would do. And it said, we got a deal for you. Stay with your current plan or leave. And I went.

No, no price change? No. Well, they up to the normal price. So like the new, it was like, yeah, you want to just spend the eight bucks a month and keep going? That's your offer. So it felt a little bit like I was, I got caught at the casino counting cards, you know? a little bit right right yes i got you they pulled they pulled me and tom cruise into a room and said we know you're counting cards got to watch wapner got to watch wapner that's how it felt

there's a that's hilarious i'd love somebody's got to have compiled a list of the offers you get when you try to quit something so that you can reference really quick and say um for example i quit Skillshare today uh only used it twice in the last six months and uh they were originally a sponsor of Coverville did their spots. They gave me a free year. I kept it. I was like, I was using this for a couple, you know, like some CSS stuff, some SEO stuff. And then I stayed on with them for 99 bucks a year. Today I'm like, oh, they're about to recharge me. And you don't want that. I don't want to do it. Yeah, not using it enough. I always just do a manual thing every time. Anytime I sign up for anything, whatever the expiration date is, I set a reminder two days ahead to

say check that thing. It's the only way I can remember to do it. Which is how it came up for me. And I was really hoping they'd say, oh, really? Well, how about, which they did offer 30% discount if I didn't quit for like one year. So instead of 99 bucks, it would be 70 bucks.

I'm like, I might have stuck around for half, but not for 30% discount. And that's all right. I feel better. Yeah. I feel better making the... I'm looking at that site. It's just like classes on stuff, marketing. art, graphic design, illustration, that kind of thing?

Okay. Yeah. And I'm way down in my to-do list is actually to develop a podcasting class or even a 3D modeling class or something for that. Oh, they'll let you do like you can teach. You can submit, yeah, you can submit bids to teach. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's cool.

So you could do an illustration class and really kick some butt. Yeah, that could be fun. There's a dude on here teaching. There's a pro-create panel. There's thousands of creative classes, beginner to pro. So just, you know, that that's out there, guys. Hey, my sponsorship is over. It's over.

We don't have to talk about them, yeah. We don't talk about it. Yeah, it's all done now. Hey, let's get to some news. We got some news piled up. Why not the news, I say? It's time for the news. Brought to you by.

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me of your MS-150 a little bit. I'm glad. Yeah, I can see why. I totally can see why. They had to issue an apology after watercups at a half marathon turned out to be reused watercups. Sure, sure. Gross. The rinsing and reusing of paper cups at one of Brighton's half-marathon water stations has led to an apology being issued by the organizers. This is the BBC. For two reasons, you know that.

One is Brighton. The other is they spell organizers weird. Hey, look, there's a Brighton not too far from where I'm at. I think even Wes in our chat room lives in Brighton, just a different Brighton. We have a Brighton ski resort, and I went to Brighton High School. So lots of Brighton's. There we go. Lots of Brightons. But this is not neither of those Brighton's.

Nope. We were the BHS, BHS Bengals. We were big old tigers. A bangles? Oh, Bengals. Okay. Bangles, like from the band. Yeah, I'm like, the Bengals? Which made us Egyptians, really, at the end of the day. I hear so many people pronouncing like the Cincinnati Bengals. I hear them pronouncing Bengals. I'm like, no, it's the Cincinnati Bengals. It's definitely an E in there, not an A.

Definitely an E. Yes. Yeah, I had to draw it once for a big wall mural thing. and I wonder if it's still, no, it's not there because I tore my school down. What am I saying? It's all got torn down and redone. That wall might be somewhere. It might be, but my guess is a landfill somewhere. Anyway, a decision to rinse and reuse cups when new ones ran out on this last Sunday's event has been described as, quote, an error in judgment.

Organizers say they will be speaking to the volunteers involved. Leading virologists said the risk of passing on germs was very low. Well, that's true. Just a quick little rant. You still, you know. I actually, I'm defending the people who washed, I guess, rinsed and reused the cups. I mean, is it? They had no other choice.

They had no other choice. And later on it says, runners were told the cups were being reused at the time. So later on, they do say that in this article. But, so I'd have no problem with that because I'd much rather have water out of a rinsed and reused cup than not have water at all. Yeah. For sure. For sure. if there was a way maybe at this maybe they'll think of this now but you know a way to not only rinse them

but clean them they're paper though so what are you going to do right right you can't scrub them out with dawn or something wax cups and stuff yeah that's why you bring well if you're running you can't really do it but on a bike of course you have your own bottle and uh i never have to worry about that problem when i do the ms 150 is yours thermacy so it keeps cool yes yes it's got a um a thick layer a thin layer of insulation on the inside and and uh you got to have that um so what you're What I'll usually do is start the day. Overnight, I'll freeze one. I'll have two bottles.

I'll have one that's completely frozen, and then I'll have one that is just packed ice. And then when I get to the first stop, I fill it with water. There's still a lot of ice in there. By the time I make it to the second or third rest stop, I'm adding the ice from the rest stop. Do the stops still have water in case people don't have that stuff, I assume? Absolutely do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They always have water.

The Nillow wafers and banana business and all that? Not in the last two years, the nillinana nutters have been missing, sadly missing. So I've made my own. It'd be funny if it was because new research and MS study has proven that these are bad for people with MS. Or something like that. Right. I think it's just bad for people with peanut allergies is the problem that they have them right out there. Where if somebody's not watching it says, oh, there's peanut butter between that nilla wafer and that banana slice.

So I can't have somebody, somebody's three. row closing up while they're on the bike. What is it about Nilla Wafers, man? What is it about those damn F- I don't even call them cookies. I don't even know what they are. They're freaking barely food, but they're so good. They're so damn good, especially with banana. Like, you stick them in banana pudding.

Oh, gosh, you've got to make the greatest combination. No, now they do, in the last couple of years, they've had fig bars from Nature's Bakery. And I don't know what your take is on Fig Newton. I'm okay with them. I'm a fan. Yeah, I like them. The only problem I have the Fig Newton is,

occasionally you get like a crunchy crusty thing a grit yeah it's like the yeah it's like a clam chowder grit yeah it feels like sand and i don't like the feeling of that but overall i'll eat uh i'll yeah i like me a fig newton they're right yeah apparently they're really good for um getting some energy back when you're on the bike but isn't the story that every fig newton has like at least one hornet in it or something and that's what the crunches from that one bit yeah the way they're made it's something like that right fig steeds or i mean i don't they certainly could have hornets in them. Hornet bits.

Because it'd be bits, not like a full hornet. Yeah, hornet bits. Sure, sure. But the crunch is it's like the fig seeds. The seeds from the gross. I don't want to eat hornets is all I'm saying. I just don't want them. You know? I don't care if I never notice them. I don't want to know

there's a hornet in there. Do you put ketchup on anything? I know with the flies. I know. Yeah. So what's the difference? Well, all right. The one I eat, claims, they claim that they're fly-free because they have no sugar in it. They're sugar-free

ketchup, which is very good, by the way. I really like it. It's like a more savory ketchup. I don't know why all ketchup is in this way. But they claim on the bottle pest-free, sugar-free, pest-free, something like that, words like that, and they claim it. Now, whether they're telling me the truth or not, or

there's some, you know, well, two constitutes, more than two constitutes have them flies in there, so we don't have to say we have flies maybe i don't i don't know but i'm as close with ketchup as i'm going to get to fly free with the sugar-free stuff because the sugar is what attracts them is my understanding it's all that sugar because there's tons of sugar i didn't know if it was the sugar i just i mean i thought it came earlier in the process like when they're when they're grabbing the tomatoes into the the tomato mulcher from the tree that some flies naturally come with them but according to my

mother-in-law went to hines factory which is where i heard this the first time yeah she was all gross out by it so she told me about it and so that like the flies are getting like because they had the sugar in the process and that's where the flies are coming in there's tons of tons of attraction when you got sugar around for flies sugar water sugar emulsion that kind of stuff that's what she said and that's what they told her now whether any of that's true i don't know but i i like to know there's as few as possible bugs in the food i eat that's all i'm saying yes of course of course i can't be 100% sure. Like I'll, you know, I eat a big strawberry yesterday, nice, big

fresh strawberries we got. I don't know where they're growing right now because they're not here. But anyway, some other country that we're terrifying. Oh, gosh, hopefully. Oh, my gosh, yeah. Yeah, but I took a bite of this thing. And I know that microscopically, because I've seen plenty of evidence of it, if you zoom way in on these, there's little

wormies guys and all that. I know that this is true. I'm okay. I'm all right. You know, the spiders crawl into your mouth at night, Scott, when you're sleeping and you swallow three spiders a year or some dumb made-up statistic. Yeah, I mean, those things, when I don't know, it's fine. That's why I always say, just put me under for everything and then I don't care.

It's like, if I need to have surgery, you put me under. It makes sense. You don't want the pain, right? But let's start doing it for the dentist. Let's start doing it for all the unpleasantries of life. Just put me down. Put me down. Put me down. Maybe don't put me down.

Well, here's the thing that you won't find in your strawberries. A man found a live turtle concealed in his pants by TSA at the New Jersey airport. Pennsylvania man, probably a vampire. Sure, probably. Either an Amish or a vampire, one of the two. Definitely not neither. Yeah. Greater than zero chance of one of these two things.

Pennsylvania man was going through security at a New Jersey airport and found to have a live turtle concealed in his pants, according to the Federal Transportation Security Administration. The turtle was detected Friday. turtle detection after a body scanner alarm went off at Newark Liberty International never been you flown there

I've flown into Newark is that the Hey Wicked Kitten is that the main airport in Newark is the I swear I've heard it before It sounds common But I've never been so I don't know It has to be I can't imagine there are two

horrible airports in New York and New Jersey Take that sorry oh i love don't don't get me wrong i love new jersey but uh but newark uh you know nobody nobody all right we could get and defend newark airport like do it it's you don't have to defend new jersey for me i love new jersey but um it's a great state new jersey absolutely gets a bad rap oh hell yeah it does it gets way too many stereotyped bad raps it doesn't deserve any of them but sometimes airports deserve all the shit they get yeah and uh my least favorite easily my least favorite airport

Dallas Fort Worth, L-A-X in that order. I hate those airports. If I can avoid those at any cost, I will. If it means I have to drive three extra hours from an airport further away, I'll do it. I freaking hate them. Hate them. Dallas-Fort Worth in particular, what a piece of shit airport that is. Garbage.

It is. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Atlanta's, sorry, Atlanta's a bad airport too. Yeah. It's not the greatest. I take it over the other two, but it's not, yeah.

Tough to get through. And the, yeah. I should come to the new, the new Salt Lake Airport's very nice. Is it? Okay. Yeah, we're in phase three. Maybe in 2026, that'll happen. Maybe.

You never know. But it's got, they keep opening it in phases. So we had the one main concourse and then they open up another one. And right now, I think they're ready to open either three or four. It's phase three or four. And I think that adds like a ton of other like shopping, restaurant-y business stuff. Anyway, it's nice right now. It's good time to be in there.

smells fresh and new like just somebody just built it and when i was last in there there was a bird it's got that new airport smell got the new airport smell and it had a bird living up in the rafters in the b section for delta be for bird you know for bird sure i think i talked about on the show before but what's cool about that is just the other day there was a local news story about birds plural living in the b section which means but he found a mate and now they got little chickadee's up there now we got a whole family living in the bees. Well, thank goodness. Yeah. And they're not for a bird to just be alone and the no, you don't want that. But they're not kicking them out. They're, they're letting them live.

Occasionally, when someone will leave a table by like the coffee shop, one of them will zip down. I get to witness this. Zip down and eat like a crumb that got left and then go back up to its nest. It's great. I hope they never leave. Except for the bird shit. Yeah. The bird's got a shit somewhere. That's true. Now it's got a family and they're all, they've all got a shit somewhere. I mean, I'm guessing that ledge they're up in. I'm guessing that's just a shit show. Yeah. It's just Literally. I'm guessing it's really bad. Anyway, this guy, so here's the deal.

The turtle was detected Friday after a body scanner alarm went off at this airport. TSA officer was conducting a pat down on the East Stroudsburg man and determined there was something concealed in the groin area of his pants. His groin area. Yeah. The hard candy shell. Right. Well, apparently, he had an unnatural cup.

I guess it was actually a natural cup. Yeah, now that you say it, probably felt all right. He says, one question further, the man reached into his pants and pulled out the turtle, which was about five inches or 12 centimeters long and wrapped in a small blue towel. He said it was a red ear slider turtle, a species that is popular as a pet. The man whose name was not released was escorted from the checkpoint area to Port Authority Police and ended up missing his flight. The turtle was confiscated and it's not clear if the turtle was the man's pet or why he had it in his pants.

My guess is it was his pet. It is your pet. It's your pet, no matter. It's yours now. Yeah, you've claimed it. I don't want it after you've been in your damn pants. Also, glad it wasn't a snapping turtle. Yeah, no.

Seems like that'd be the worst place to carry a snapping turtle. So is he. He's stoked it wasn't snapping at this point. That's right. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister Wendy will be here. We got an email from someone that we're going to address. So this will be good stuff.

Stick around. Before that, a song break with Brian. Yeah. How about a band called Twin Shadow? It's really one person. The guy named George Lewis Jr., but he performs as Twin Shadow. He's Dominican-born, but American now. And this is his sixth album. It's called Georgie, named after himself, of course, on the independent label Dom Recordings. This is the first single from it. It is called Headless Hero. Here is Twin Shadow. I'm so happy now I'm free now I'm free, but you sure left the scar on me. All your words are cut me still And I got one more time behind the wheel Since my heart won't let it go You were better off with me and so

But you could drag me, drag me till I come And I still don't know where you're coming from You take me so you take me so how to his way. to get it right. And now I walk this open world With hand on heart and one fist come If you hadn't left that mark on me I'd be halfway home and half asleep

But it's been this way since 17 so you'll never know how much you need. I'm going to be able to be. If you're listen to such pessimism, nothing would ever be built. Are you proposing we abandon the plan? I am. I'd like to buy your beef.

Sure, that is the band or the person, Twin Shadow. His real name is George, but he performs under Twin Shadow. That is his sixth song from his sixth album. which comes out soon it's called georgie the song was called headless hero excellent that's the kind of hero you need a headless one a headless one sure sure look if you don't need a head don't talk back no you don't need a yappy hero that's for sure this is a kind of hero we need save me and shit up yeah sounds about right my adam sandler right there shit that's pretty good you do a good Sandler, that and your other, that. I've been working on my Adam Sandler here for a while now.

Yeah. It's like you're... It's not bad. Salome! It's not bad at all. He's got like three or four of those affectations, right? You have to get him all that. It's like you've got a, you can't do an impersonation of the guy without knowing at least two of those. No. Yeah. That's absolutely true. All right, well, we call Wendy. I just wanted to share a little dumb thing with people. I've been having a conversation with Dunaway. And you might say to your Oh, is that for show planning? Is that something to do with the tadpully feud stuff he does here? Is it something else?

It's, uh, we're talking about the Kool-Aid man. Just let that sink in. Yeah. The Kool-Aid man. Breaking through walls and doing what he's got to do. Oh, look who it is. Oh, look at that. Therapy.

Lie down on the couch. Lie down on the couch. It's my sister Wendy who's here to do a little therapy Thursday with us. Wendy, what's going on? How are you? Oh, hey, I'm good. I just, uh, I don't know. randomly scrolled through our feed and there's a picture.

Is that Brian in 19? It is. It is. 178. Yeah. Yeah. That is a great picture. Isn't that great?

Thanks. Yeah. It's got a couple in there. I love it. Look at the one on the... I like the kid behind him? What's he doing? Just itching.

Scott glommed down to that right away too. I think it's a girl wearing a tank top and she's just scratching a ribs. Oh, okay. Yeah. Something about Searold is making her. ribs it. Yeah. Yeah, it does not love it. And I love the lady looking down at a camera. That feels like automatically someone looking at a phone. That looks like, it looks like Aunt Susan doesn't it a little bit. Yeah, it does. I was like that. And you don't even have to see the bottom of her pants

to know that they are flared way the F out. Oh yeah. Look at those things, dude. And I look so comfortable and yeah. No one's on their phone. And now had phones. Oh my gosh. This other one of you on this chair. These are so cute. Isn't that great? Let's see. That's Circus, circus when they had the, the fountains out there. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically a public toilet over there. You mean, you mean circus circus as a whole, right? Yeah, as a whole, as an entirety of a toilet. Do you remember when do you want, that mom and dad took us, that was a place. If we went to Vegas, we were in Circus Circus. It was always the place we went. Do you remember that or are you too young to remember that? I was pretty young. Yeah, you're probably six.

Seven maybe. That was right before your mad ball came out. Hey, uh, the mad ball. Hey, uh, how to go? By the way, when you went to Phoenix and hung out with a bunch of my siblings, uh, while I hung out here. How did it, how did it go? Do you have a good time? We really missed you. I was like, it was so, it was so fun. We got to do that again and you need to come. Well, I'll go next time. Hell yeah. I can't be the only funny one there. You know what I mean? No, it's a lot of work to be the funny one. I know the pain of that. I was a bluff. No, that's good. And then we're going to see you soon because we're going to come out here and spend some time with mom and all that. She seems to be making some progress. Oh, is it next week?

Holy shit. Yeah. Maybe I'll come in live for the therapy Thursday. Yeah, we were talking about that. We were talking about figuring out something while you're here. I got to talk to you about exact times and all that. But I guess you'll stay at Misha's. I don't know why we're making all these plans right now in the air.

You guys want to hear all this? Yeah, it's good stuff. It's exciting. All right. We'll figure it out. Well, excellent. That's all good and well. But today, we have therapy Thursday. It's where we help you with your real problems. Wendy's an actual licensed therapist. And you guys are going to be the beneficiaries of her advice. I'm going to read this email that Wendy sent me, and I'll just kick it out.

Here we go. This is from someone we're going to call M. It starts with the question, how can I help my young daughter, age seven, become more comfortable with the knowledge that everyone dies someday? Oh, mortality. Man. Boy, you're asking, you're barking up the run. tree there. Yeah. Yeah. You found a guy

who watches old movies and then decides. It's a list of up. They're dead. They're dead. Yeah.

I watched an old John Ford Western the other night. Just kind of in the background. And it did it again. It hit me right in the middle of it.

I'm like, he's dead. He's dead. They're dead. The director's dead. The guy behind the camera's dead. Those four crew guys are dead. Those four horses are dead.

The only thing alive there is that cactus way back in the background. Anyway, goes on to say, the first experience death in a way she could understand when my dad died, or couldn't, I guess. She was four and I was 40. We lived three hours away, but we visited his house every major

holiday and went camping with him every summer. My mom passed away when I was 21, so my daughter never met or knew her. Let's see. Ever since my dad died, she cries a lot whenever anyone mentions that I, mom, won't be around someday. She's sad that my dad and others who have passed, but she especially breaks down when thinking about losing me. I don't go out of my way to bring up death, but I also don't try to avoid it. It's part of life. My own philosophy is that you're either old or dead. And at this point, I'd rather be old. I've seen the other side of things. My dad quickly declined in health and developed dimension to the point where he repeatedly said out loud that he couldn't wait for this to be over. Oh, man. I also believe that the finite,

miniteness of everything is what makes life worthwhile and meaningful. When something is infinite, life, money, etc., it stops being important. I know that's too deep for her to grasp, but it breaks my heart when she has a breakdown over an inevitable part of the future, says M. Yeah, little kids, they don't quite get it. And then when they start to get it, I have to imagine they're a lot more sensitive to it than, you know, us old farts who are, you know, kind of what's going on. but you know having dealt with mom's recent thing and worried about her and having it happened at the age she's at knowing what broken hips often end up meaning for some people not everyone you know we know what kind of odds were against you know I'll admit it's been

a part of the conversation and everyone's thinking lately so maybe we're in a good position to talk about this so what do you want to do to help them today yeah well sort of first to recognize how normal and healthy this is like every kid's a little different. You're going to have a seven-year-old who will not think once about this kind of thing or ask a single question, and it doesn't mean they're unhealthy. It just means that's, they're not maybe tuned in the same way or, you know, kids vary in their sensitivity to certain things, right?

And, you know, we all, we got a couple kids amongst the three of us that are like, just one might be like, I need to talk this through. And another might be like, I need to eat. eat again. That's all I do or whatever, you know, like they're just different creatures. But this is really healthy to have some questions, to wonder about it. What it does do, though, is trigger the, oh, no, this is not in the manual of parenting, which I never received, to be honest, but like, how do I make sure I don't? It's a little bit of like, do no harm, but satisfied to help them. And often, I think a temptation might be to get, um, and then,

this is maybe speaking more for me. I tend to go way deeper and longer than a kid actually needs. They're like, I just asked what time it was. You know, you're like, well, let's talk about time. What is it? You know? And so to recognize, like, you may feel more or less qualified to talk about this because you think unqualified to tell a developmentally appropriate story to a child so they feel safe. But you are actually uniquely qualified. Your dad died. Your mom died.

You have some experience. Your mom died when she was quite young, right? She was 21 when her mom died. 21, yeah. That's pretty young. Yeah. So she has had her own experience and has her own philosophy and all of those things. I am a fan of, you know, doing a quick, like, what is a healthy way to talk to a kid about this at this age?

So seven is development. your brain is moving from very black and white thinking to it be something like the dog died and the dog went to dog heaven. You're like, yay, dog heaven. And you just feel fine about that. Or the dog died and there's nothing after this. Oh, that's a bummer. It's a sensual dread.

Great. But it might still just be black and white a little bit, right? Like your brain doesn't quite move into the abstract thinking into about seven, eight or nine. So it sounds like she is right at the right age to be. think about things in more abstract terms and, you know, it's not as clear cut as good, bad, black, white, right? So she's maybe at a place you can have a slightly more in-depth conversation. I would recommend this. This is the mistake everybody makes is kids hear things as lectures or hear things as monologues way quicker than we realize we're doing that, right? As general rules,

parents are talking way more than they should in these moments because they're like, the kid is listening. It's my one shot. And then they end up monologuing. Right. Because you ask you can survey a bunch of kids and you're like, what is the definition of lecturing? And it's maybe two sentences. It doesn't take much for them to get into, I'm being told what to think. Right. As soon as they start getting tired of listening to you, darn it, it just turned into a lecture. Yeah. And that's pretty quick. So the best. way to counteract that natural tendency when it comes to maybe I'm nervous, maybe I'm talking too much or maybe I'm, you know, I'm jumping right into things that are what I think,

but I've come to over 40 years of life, not what I could handle at seven, is to stop talking and ask questions. So one thing I have always loved to do with kids, it's really powerful. This works with adults too is have pen and paper and like crayons or whatever. So we're drawing while we're talking or we're just scribbling or sketching and you're you're just sort of creating a space where like you have designated like hey I have something I want to talk to you about and we can just you know doodle while we're talking um or you can do it over coloring specifically the dog the dog died oh okay can I have that black crayon now please let me draw a big sad cloud around everything but it is actually therapeutic I mean there's our therapy

for a reason, right? There is something we can express that way. So really, more than anything, it's a little bit about turning on the whole brain. Another thing would be to be throwing a ball back and forth, right? So playing catch, I mean, this isn't just like a cultural trope or something like dad and son playing catch and talking about something real. Our brain's actually, you know, just passing a ball between our left and right hand engages both sides of the brain while we are processing. So, you know, I don't do this all the time, but I really should have every client hold a, you know, a crossball, which they're really great. I don't know if you've ever held one. Anyway, and just pass it back and forth between your two hands while you're emotionally. Are they heavy? They're really heavy. Yeah. They're dense, heavy. And the size and they're perfect for like putting on a wall and getting that weird spot on your scapuling. Yeah. Like a mark. Who would win in a fight that or croquet ball? croquet ball more dense and heavy? Oh, I mean, croquet ball feels like a hard.

Yeah, at least this one is dense. Rubber and dense. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It would leave a well. It would sting. It wouldn't break your leg.

Right. Yeah. Croquet ball. Thrown at the same velocity, the croquet ball is going to do some more serious permanent damage to you than the lacrosse ball. Did everyone enjoy my saying the word squirrel and having you guys run. Absolutely. Dude, that's what we do here.

Yeah. No, no. It's all. It's all part of our undiagnosed ADHD here on the show. We try to be distracted. In doing these things, is there any worry that, like, you know, you're telling your child that grandma died, but you're doing it while you're playing ball or while you're drawing that it's going to sour them towards that activity in the future? Like, oh, man, I was drawing when my mom told me my grandma died. That's right.

Yes, if you, it's the only time you ever draw together or the only time you ever play catch. So don't do that. If you regularly, yeah, that's like, here, let's, let's work some. I'm going to take you fishing for the first time. And by the way. Yeah, I guarantee people have done this. They're like, well, I think it's time to take you to ice cream for the first time. And now we'll tell you your favorite grandma's dead.

So you, you, yes, don't, I don't have it be connected only with that. But it might just be that. So this daughter's already, the eight, seven year olds already asking questions. and I assume, right? There's already some foundation for this. And so this is just a hack, right? Like, do you get your whole brain engaged? And this is another one with teenagers, right?

When you're in the car or tweens, you're in the car and you're looking forward. Sometimes that, the non-eye contact time of talking, they can be even more open. So parents may notice this, that their kid will tell them more after a certain period of time in a car looking forward. and they will also tell them more late at night. So get your sleep somehow, take naps because they're ready to talk at 1145, right? And so it's something about being able to, like, you know, there's these natural sort of windows and you want to catch one of those windows and then here's what I would suggest to M is that you bring it up

and enough of just that you're asking a question about it. Like, how are you feeling about grandpa, right? So what's the death? Oh, that first one was grandpa. Grandpa 40, right? Right. Okay. And they did all these activities and stuff together.

So you would just say, how are you feeling about grandpa passing away? And one thing when kids, especially when they're younger, younger, you want to use concrete words. So passing away might even be not concrete enough. I would say for like a five and under, you're going to use the word death. dead or died or gone dead like you're not going to say gone to a better place or you know what are the other euphemisms we use passed on women with the fishes no longer with us shaking off the mortal coil all that stuff yeah there's a great panera bread in the sky yeah there's lots of wrong ways to well and here's the thing when they're younger they're just not going to know what you mean

And then, you know, as they're older, they will have caught on it. But to be pretty clear, right? Like, Grandpa has died. Just want to know how you're feeling about it. What do you've been thinking about? And then you're going to know where to go. Because the lecture first mode, which is often what parents, they're underestimating what their kid might know.

And they're also overestimating what they might know. So we just don't know yet. You got to go in a little humble and curious. of like, hey, where are you at? What are you thinking about? So I like the question of what have you been thinking about it recently? And the kid will say, I haven't thought about it at all. Or, yeah, I think about it every day.

And you're like, okay. Right? Or I, this is what I think about. So you might find they are thinking about a guinea pig and grandpa and wondering if they're together or, you know, and you can just let them ask questions. And you say, I don't have all the answers. But I'd love to talk to you better. I'd like to hear what you're thinking, and I can tell you what I think, too.

So you are instead, and I understand the tendency that we think creates security to just tell a kid what to think, right? Well, we believe in heaven, and they will all be there together soon and we'll see Grandpa one day. And that feels like a quick, like, this is the most efficient way to not have them have existential dread. And for some people who later in life, you're really mad about that. They're really mad that they were only told how to think about things and they never learned to grapple with anything, right? So my suggestion is you do these small grapples as they're young, so that they have a tolerance for a difficult discussion. They know you are a safe place to talk through something with. You do, you are safe, even if you don't know every answer.

And I think that is the illusion. that we don't ever want a kid to feel wobbly so we act like we know so that they will then because it works pretty immediately and so you think you're being successful you're like oh see they're fine really the kid might have just gotten shut down because you told them there's only one way to think about this um and really the antidote to all of this stuff you want to maybe avoid is to ask questions obviously don't be like a million questions but ask questions ask kind of how they feel, make sure it's clear, you can talk about it any time, what do they think they need? And would they like to do anything to memorialize him? You know, should we, we could

plant a tree. You know, you have some ideas of like, you know, the things human needs to need to greet. They need to talk about it. They need to have safe space to cry and process. They need some kind of ritual of goodbye. And so you can ask in those, and some freedom to talk about. it, you know, later randomly when it pops up, that it's not a shut story. I think generationally we're way better at this. You know, I will meet people who, you know, lost someone dear to them and everyone in the world shut them down from ever speaking about it again, right? And they've sort of held that stuck grief for super long, right? And so I don't think, you know, one quick Google, you can see there's some healthier ways to handle things.

But, you know, really seeing it as this is part of my parenting is this is an inevitability. I mean, we can make a list, right? Talking about death and inevitability of parenting. What else is there? Taxes. Taxes. People being bad. Right.

Yeah. Right. How do I understand that? Yeah. Making sense of behavior that feels extreme, things like that. Dealing your own anger, dealing with your own frustration. Yeah. Right.

And everything you can have, have a, it can go many different directions. I think however you were raised might feel like the natural thing to say and do. Maybe that was healthy and good for you. Maybe it'll be healthy and good for your kid. I don't know. But what you may have had no experience. What I often run to is parents who had never gotten permission to say or do certain things and then their kid comes along and is asking for that permission.

and it can be really challenging. It's either like, oh, do I shut them down like my parents shut me down? Or do I swim out in the unknown with this kid and be like, I don't have answers. I don't know. And so some of it is like knowing your own business there when it comes to that. So that's what I would ask, M, just where has she been in her own process of grief? And what has she learned? And, you know, she's got the older dead philosophy.

which may or may not work for this kid. But if she can hold sort of lightly that it may or may not work, but that it's okay to have a discussion about it. And we're each allowed to feel and change and figure out what we think. But it's safe to talk about. Like, that to me is the magic. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, this is hard. I was just having a conversation with Van. He's six about. Yeah, this is exactly the right time. Yeah, about his great-grandmother who's, you know, laid up. And he was trying to understand the relationships, first of all. He's like, so she's your mom and my mom is my mom. You know, he's just trying to understand and, like, get all this stuff figured out. And I just realized it hit me. Like, if she, because we took him with us and he, he's so sweet around everybody. He doesn't get freaked out by, you know, old people or the smell of the place or it's being new. He's just very, he just blends in. He's a happy little kid. When the day comes where I have to sort of explain what it means that she's not here anymore, I realize that day how kind of not prepared I am to do that. It's not even really my job.

His parents are going to be the ones that really do that. But he and I are close and I'm going to want to talk to him about it. He likes to understand these broader relationships. He's always asking about it. So this is good for me to be planning, you know, hopefully not too soon, but planning for this a little bit. Yeah. Because it's going to come up.

And one thing she said in here in, I think it's the last paragraph, she said, I know that's too deep for her to get, but it breaks my heart when she has breakdown when thinking about some future inevitability. So when a kid has any, so Van's curiosity is like he's intimating that like, hey, I have questions and I wonder how things work and you know often we're hearing so much at unfortunately at the face value of a question which is like give me an answer but really if you back up what is a kid actually doing they are testing to see is there is there an answer how do my parents responding um and so this idea that it's too deep for her to get well

it's too deep for her to get what you've been through and your philosophy and that suffering is part of the human condition because most little kids haven't suffer suffered yet. They don't know how bad it's going to hurt when something, you know, they have their own version, maybe like a shot or spraying an ankle. They, you know, it's not like they're clueless, but what we don't want to do is harm their innocence, right? Like that's what we're usually trying to protect.

But to recognize like they're asking maybe this question, but if we can pause and look behind that, maybe they're just asking, are they safe? Or are they lovable? Or will you forget me if I die? You don't know what they're actually asking sometimes. And so that's why I always like to see if people can not jump to, I have to tell them something to let me find out what they're actually already thinking. How do you feel about the situations arising like he watched, so he watched the princess and the frog this Disney movie uh this is probably you're he's probably five then the Tiana one the um yeah the one set in the south and all that are set in New Orleans and that um and it's like one of the I think it's well it was Disney coming back with a hand animated thing but

I don't think they've done much sense but anyway I think it was their last one yeah I think it was kind of a comeback but also their last one at the same time because I think they were trying to test the waters because by then this is not that long ago by then they'd already done a ton of Pixar and 3D stuff, and I think they were just like, what if we brought it back? And I don't think it did very well. But anyway, the point is that movie's beautiful. It's got a nice story, all this stuff. And he got really upset and teary-eyed at the end when the bug dies.

Sorry, spoilers, everybody, but there's a, there's a, what do you call him? The Firefly. Firefly passed away in the story. And it really got into his soul there. And he got very upset about it and cried and stuff. and it was clear that he didn't fully grasp the difference between life and death. And, you know, it's not like all the intricate things about that are apparent to him. But what was apparent to him was the emotional immediacy of loss, right?

Yeah. And so I guess what I'm asking is, is it okay for that stuff to be a point of like conversation? Like that's the time when you can have some of these conversations, even though it's, you know, third party Disney plus streaming that brought up the question. Is there value in that as a jumping off point for the parent to say, well, let's, you know, let's talk about what it means when he, you know, why isn't he around anymore? What do these things mean? Or why do you think you feel this way? Like, is that an okay direction to go for a parent? Yeah, 100%.

And I would even, I'm glad you asked that question because I would even do that on purpose. maybe don't pick Bambi, because that's our childhood version of this, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But think about that just as a medium that has been, you know, it's part of what makes a movie have a, you know, conflict and resolution and death is always an option. And so as a kid, that maybe your first thing you experienced through that, I'm sure there's two blueie to five blueie episodes that would be amazing for this as well, right?

where you are using that to initiate a conversation, right? And so the thing people do, so our problems as parents often are we're lecturing first because we're trying to make ourselves feel comfortable because you're uncomfortable rather than we can sit with discomfort or we can sit with sadness. And many of us were not raised that way.

It was like, oh, you're fine. Oh, you're a baby. Oh, go to your room. Nobody wants to see you cry. So you've learned in a million different ways, especially the males in the podcast here, that you are not allowed to feel too much. And so what you're saying is, hey, I'm inviting the feeling or I'm inviting us a chance to discuss it or it's okay with me that you cry at any point.

So I would suggest to the emailer like making that the most clear. You're thinking so much about the philosophy of what happens after death and there's plenty of argument. Nobody actually knows. So I don't know if anyone really could ever give an answer that wasn't somewhat made up, right? It has to be because no one, I mean, I don't know, maybe some dead people have come back and told everyone the secret, but from the, for the most part, we're all guessing and hoping and wishing it was something, and we all want something nicer. Or for some people, blackness and nothing after is very comforting, right? So to each is own, but we all really don't know. So if you're thinking, I've got to give the right answer,

like, you don't have it. But what you do have is a relationship with this kid to create the skills for a future life without you, which is it's okay to be sad. It's okay to process. It's okay to mourn. It's okay to feel. So we have all these sort of cartoon avenues. You could show a kid one of these things, have a great discussion and create a place where they know, oh, it's okay for me to go to my mom and talk about how sad I am that grandpa's gone. And that is helpful. My job, half of my job is helpful just because I witnessed whatever someone's going through. It's not that I have all the magic keys to change their life and make them whatever.

They just heard and it was safe to feel whatever they felt. It's that simple. So creating some of that with our children can be, I mean, incredibly an incredible gift throughout life. Grief, death and dying is just one of the topics. Right. So, yeah, I love it. I love that idea. Do it on purpose and see if that provides a window for a conversation.

Reminding kids, it's okay. Any point to say what they need to say? Having the show create enough of the feeling to get the tears out, that's valuable. You're just really expressing that it's safe and open. And that's why I always would tell whoever I'm talking to that's the adult, like, hey, we need to check. your allowance and grief, because if you have never been allowed this, it's harder to model it, right? But you can. You can do it. Sure. Sure. Right. Well, uh, let us know. We'd love feedback on how things went. If you come up with an opportunity where this discussion does happen and you feel

like you had any kind of little breakthrough or hit any other obstacles, let us know. Happy to do follow-ups on the show here as well. Wendy, always a pleasure. Um, as dad would say, um, look to seeing you next week. And, of course, TMS Vegas whipping right at us around the corner as well. No kidding. Coming quick. Oh, yeah. I need to know you're separate for this. DM me your arrival deets when you get a second, Wendy. I will. I will. And Misha's coming and she's going to hang out with me a little bit, but she's also maybe bailing on me. So I need a friend. Oh, no. She's maybe bailing on the whole thing or just coming on. No, no, just like Tuesday. I think she might need to go home. Oh, okay. But I am, this is crazy. I have this fun

Razor luncheon the next morning on May 1st. And so I'm flying out of Vegas at 1240 PM. Yeah. Right. This is what I do for you. Going right there. Yeah. That's amazing. Wow. So that nice, you're just staying up all night, hopping on a plane. I'll just, I'll be

it, you know, the live thing with my luggage. It'll be great. No, I'm excited. I've talked to a couple of people. Packing your suitcase will actually be the last taskville task. You want to see what's in there? It's probably going to be wrong thing. Speaking of the wrong thing, okay, Scott, here's my thing I want to pimp tonight. Go, go. Do it. Pimp it.

Okay, so this is so embarrassing and I can't be the only one, so please someone, please write in and tell me I'm not alone. But Adam and I get to the airport. We are going to Phoenix and we got there a little early, so there's this piano

player who plays in the concourse. It's so relaxing. You almost miss your flights. Anyway, very relaxed, very relaxed. I go, we get, I go sit by the gate thinking, okay, we probably should get ready. I look at the gate and it says, Phoenix, Mesa Gateway. And I'm like, what? So I bought tickets to the wrong airport. Oh, no. I was dying. And it's like five minutes to boarding. And I'm, so I text Mark, and I'm like, Mark, I'm going to the wrong airport. He's like, yeah, I noticed. I just wasn't going to mention it.

So he had to drive an hour and like 15 minutes to come get us instead of 20, you know, because of the airport. That's awesome. I was so stupid. Anyway, but this is what happened. So the flight there,

I sat next to the nicest guy I think I've ever met. We chatted, I swear to you for three hours. Oh, wow. Yeah, when you're next to somebody that is pleasant and enjoyable and isn't clipping their toenails.

I love that. Yeah. Totally. And he, we're telling different stories. He'd gone to Sweden for something. He's a filmmaker and I'm going to plug his movie for you, okay, in a second. But he was so nice. And as we're talking and he'd been to Sweden.

So I told him, we lived in Sweden. And I talked about just like how he got there. And I mentioned Pete's having his guts on the outside of his body. And he, I thought I made him sick. He just blanched. And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. And he goes, no, I've never heard anyone else have this experience. I also have a kid the same age.

who had the same thing. Oh, wow. And so his was a lot more complicated. He's had a lot of surgeries. She's just like the nicest guy. Anyway, so we had this great conversation.

And anyway, so I look up all this stuff when I get home, and he is a filmmaker that just does documentaries and has worked on a bunch of different projects, but his main focus is native people. So stories about the Navajo

and just individual stories of hope and just cool stuff. And then he was in Minnesota for, the conference of tribal elders discussing various issues. So just like a lovely, lovely dude, and I look through his films, he has a bunch of them. But the one I had actually heard of before I met him is called More Than Fry Bread. And it's this fry bread competition throughout the United States.

And he just does a documentary fill on it. So I put it in the chat. Anyway, he has a bunch of others. Oh, here it is. 2011, looks like. Yeah. Holt Hamilton films. Tristan's fiance is all about the frybread.

She wants to make Tina frybread so, so badly. We can't wait to have her over to do it. Tell her to do it and watch the movie. Isn't the fry? We'll follow this up. Aren't those, you know, when you go to fairs around Salt Lake City and stuff, they have the Navajo tacos. That's using fry bread, right?

100%. It uses bread of the base. Yeah. 100%. And I saw the promo and it was just like the Navajo guy was just like, it's from here. These are Navajo frybread. I was like, Navajo Tacos, baby.

Or Travis Holt Hamilton is the guy that, yeah, cool. That looks great. He has a bunch of them. I think he's, I said, I mean, it's a stressful life, you know, trying to make this work. And I said, so when do you know you've like finally made it? He's like, everyone says it's your 10th film. And I'm like, what did number you're on? He's like, I'm on number seven.

I'm like, keep going. You can do it. Anyway, he was lovely and everyone should try some fry bread. But I always think of, I think it's, Jim Gaffigan has a bit where he talks about, it's like a declarative. And it's like, fry bread. Yeah. He has a whole thing about bread. This is great.

Yeah, he's got all kinds of stuff going on. Busy, busy. And a lot of highly rated stuff. Yeah. He's done great. I mean, he's just, he's got too many kids and like a nice wife and he's just doing his best and sitting on the cheapest airline I've ever been on next to me. They didn't even give us. water. I was like three and a half hours. That's not quick at all. Don't kidding. They should have

had that out to you in the first 30 minutes. Oh, they said you had to pay. It was like five bucks for water. Lame. And I'm like, I cannot believe this is where we're at. People. Yeah, we've really, we've really got and there's no room from your knees either. Which or one was that? Is that spirit? And I, here's the, here's what's funny is I, every time I say it wrong. I say Allegante. That's not Oh, Legion. Okay. Legion. Thank you. Allegiance. I like Aligante. Which flight am I?

Aligante. Aligante. Well, that's great. I love that you went to the wrong airport. That is some, that is some Johnson business. Totally. And Adam just smiled and he's like, this is why I check things. And I'm like, this is why I don't.

Because I would never have met Travis Holt Hamilton. For the record. His kid had his guts born in the outside. I know. We bonded. We bonded. That movie, the frybread one, is on, or more than fried bread is on

to be right now. So yeah, you can watch for free. Just go out there and grab it. He has a more recent one out as something about in water or something. It's about a native one. Touch water or touch the water. Yeah, touch the water.

She's never been in water. Anyway. That's pretty interesting. All these look good. That's really cool. I'm glad you got the wrong flight. That's fantastic. I know.

He was so nice to chat with me. Yeah. All right. Well, go check it out. Again, that's Travis Holt Hamilton. You can find them on IMDB. Even looks nice in his little photo here. He looks like a nice. Oh, he's just nice, beyond nice. Yeah. He looks like to hold it. And so

more will come with No Better You. I'll tell you more about that in the next couple weeks, but I will plan to see you physically next week. Yeah, it'll be great. And we'll figure out how to get you on the air one of those days somehow, some way. We'll figure it out. It'll all happen. I just know it. I feel it. I feel it my heart. Also, also in Vegas, Misha and are planning to go to karaoke on Monday night. So I would love, I would love some song suggestions because I pick the wrong one last time. It was very embarrassing, but no one remembers because they were drunk. So it'll be good. I'm excited for two. Something for B-52s, then you only have to do the wrapping part. That's how I got away with it.

Good one. Good one. Good one. Good one. Good one. I'd like to live. All right. Have a fantastic week. And may all your flights be to the wrong airports. We'll see you soon. Bye now. All right. Bye. Can't really screw that up in Salt Lake. We only have the, well, that's not true. We have one in Provo. And we have small. I thought it was the wrong destination. It was the wrong. I thought she said it was the flight to the wrong destination, not the wrong airport. Well, it's the same thing, right? Going to the wrong airport? If you go to the wrong airport, that's that. If you go to the right airport, but the flight is to the, you booked it to the wrong destination.

That's a different thing. Oh, okay. I thought she said she booked it to the wrong, the Mesa Phoenix destination, but I might have, I might have misunderstood what she said. Yeah, because he had to go, because he's picking her over the airport, he had to go an hour and a half out of his way to get her at the wrong airport i thought it was the whole point to pick her up from the wrong not drop her off at the wrong airport but pick her up from the wrong right right right right that's right yeah i think we're saying this thing yeah wrong destination yeah wrong destination not wrong

uh somebody pm me in the chat and said that uh princess and the frog was 3d they're thinking to something else they're definitely thinking of something else yeah this came out in 2009 oh here's the whole thing on it here it is began production in 06 under the working title frog princess Mark Disney's brief return to traditional animation as it was or sorry is the mainstream studio's first traditionally animated thing Home on the Range was the one before that that's crazy what was the year for I thought um that can't be the most recent

I thought they had a Winnie the Pooh thing like the year before Princess and the Frog was that longer before that? I don't know so I 2004 seemed that seems nuts to me but I guess and I didn't know the same director did your um your favorite one To Lilo and Stitch. Leelow and Stitch.

I had no idea. Yeah. Same director. I didn't realize that either. Yeah. It'd be cool if these were back in style. I'd like this a lot. I do, too.

I mean, we'll still get those with the Miyazaki things and stuff like that. That's true. Was the Wild? The Wild was 3D chicken little valiant. Poo's Heffalump movie. Is that what it was? Yeah, 2005. So four years before the release of Princess and the Frog.

Oh, yeah. even remember that one. I don't think I see it. And then before that was Brother Bear 2003. Wild. I could have sworn all those came out closer together, but you're absolutely right. I didn't realize it was a comeback, like it was their comeback. I thought it was like, all right, we've got all these 3D things coming out for a year and then one 2D animation once a year. Yeah. And I think the reason I remember it is there was some talk that it didn't reach the goals they wanted, but I think it was still a profitable film. Maybe just wasn't wildly profitable or whatever. whatever Disney's standard is

it wasn't up to that didn't make the kind of money Pixar movies make I don't know I wish they do so I got to wait Claire told me to wait Claire told me to wait wait for what

She just said wait Brian oh that's all I don't know why she just said wait That's great Claire Oh 2011 animated Wayne the Pooh fully hand drawn Okay I mean there've been things since too Like is that the last

I think they've even done Like little one-off things Haven't they or now Are these all theatricals Because maybe they don't count them if they're like directed. This one is theatrical. It's the Winnie the Pooh July 2011. I have no memory of that movie at all.

I didn't even know it existed. You could have shown me images and I'd say, what's that from the 40s? Like, I have no idea that was even a movie. But yeah, I'm looking through the list here and I'm not seeing anything else. Two-D animation. It's a bummer. I mean, I agree.

I really do, you know, I miss the Disney 2D animation stuff. But like you said, we get it with Miyazaki films and other places. I guess it's really limited to Miyazaki and then straight up anime kind of. Yep. No, I know exactly what you mean when you do that. Yeah. No, I wish the, I do wish it was more, the art form of it was more, well, whatever. So it's very expensive, 2D now.

It's all flipped, you know. 3D originally, the early days was very expensive. very time-consuming and very resource-intensive. And it's all kind of flipped. It's just gotten easier as processing's gotten faster and tools have gotten better. And so I get why. Also, I think kids respond better to 3-D stuff. They just, I don't know, pops for them or something.

But it still bums me out because the artistry is just not there anymore. All right. There is something scheduled for November 25th, 2026 called Untitled Walt Disney Animation Studios film. So that to me, Walt Disney Animation Studios. I guess that could still be the 3D because Mufasa. I'm sorry, Moana 2 is called Walt Disney Animation Studios. Never mind.

Same studio, but it could be. Just got hopeful there for a second. Yeah. Never get hopeful. It's my monomato. The rest of these all say Pixar Animation Studios and 20th century animation. It's like, okay, those are all. What's Pixar's a big thing this year? I don't think I know.

They have one this year? I know they had Inside Out last or two last year. Is Dutopia 2? is later this year. Elio. Elio is the biggie. That's June. E-L-I-O.

I don't know what that is. I feel like a fiction adventure film. Ooh. Hold on now. That looks. Oh, yeah. Look at that. I didn't know about this one.

All right. That's news to me. That's exciting. Zoy Saddanya. Zootopia 2, but that's Disney. Brad Garrett, Jamila Jamil. Love her. Lilo and Stitch is Disney.

I'm trying to see. Pixar, Pixar. Yeah. Oh, Incredible 3, but the day it's still TBD, but it was supposed to be this year. That's not happening, I'm sure. They're doing a live remake of Hercules? That's weird. Hmm.

Whatever. I try not... I try not to judge those until they happen. I know. I'm so freaking worried about Lilo and Stitch. I think the girl they cast as Lilo is so freaking adorable. Perfect casting. I watched an interview with her when I accidentally forgot to turn the TV on

off after the news and accidentally saw a little bit of entertainment tonight and the Lilo girl is freaking adorable. So that's still a show, eh? You can watch entertainment tonight? It's still a show apparently, yeah. And it is talk about the

high caffeinated people, man. It is like they snorted cocaine right before the cameras started rolling for... It's a very special kind of energy on those shows. The kind of energy I don't have, I don't think. bad kind of energy. Yeah.

We're so excited about the news coming out of Hollywood about Blake Lively and that court thing she's in. It's so great. Let's talk about this. Yeah. It's a little like morning show people, which is why we start this show because they'll suck so bad if you can hate it. They suck so bad.

It's fake. Yeah. Listen, when we're pissed off and in a bad mood, you'll hear it. Oh, you'll know. You'll know. By the way, quick light check still burning. Wow. Barely, but it's going.

A long tail on that thing, right? Yeah. Super bright at the beginning. boy, does it last a long time afterwards. Yep, I'm actually kind of, now I'm to the point where I'm like, let's keep this going. Let's see how long you go. Real quick, show's coming up. Coverville today at noon, Twitch.tv.TV slash coverville.

You can also watch Core at 1 p.m. That's at frogpants.tv and TMS Friday will happen tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock. So if you're a patron of the show, please show up for that. Play retro at 1.30 p.m. tomorrow and Film Sack this weekend. Saturday, to be specific, we are doing Craven the Hunter. on Netflix. So a very recent film, which we don't get to do very often, so it's going to be fun. Yeah, this is hot off the free streaming, the freeming presses, basically. Well, let's give him a freeming song at the end of this show. What do you got for us today?

Here's some free streaming music for you. This one's going out to Kevin Evans. He says, hi, Scott and Brian. We've been listening to the show since 2013, all the way from Australia. and you've been a constant source of comfort and joy through many of life's ups and downs. Angela and I have enjoyed countless recommendations from the team over the years. I'm a long-time listener and first-time requester. My wife, Angela, is celebrating her 60th birthday, and I would love to dedicate a song to her. She is truly the rock of our family, always there to support anyone in need. This year is especially pointing, as it's her first birthday without her mother who passed away last year.

I want her to know, we are here for you, honey. I said that wrong. I want to let her know that we're here for you, honey. We are here for you, honey. We are here for your honey. Make honey. Get the bees. Honey, hero.

Let's give her a birthday thing. Happy day to you. Happy birthday. Happy 60th. Perfect. I'll leave it to the music master. It picked the song, but something with an upbeat Australian theme would be fantastic. It should honor Angel and her credible strength.

She deserves some fanfare. Thank you for considering my request and being part of our lives. We appreciate you. All signed Kevin. Well, excellent. And I think, you know, without looking at the lyrics, I've always assumed this song was kind of like a about a badass chick. So this one seems to fit. But hopefully, hopefully as I look at the lyrics afterwards, I won't say, oh, bad choice.

But the song originally by In Excess is Suicide Blonde. This is a cover by George Alice. I think another Australian artist, not 100% sure. But this comes from a thing in 2021, a short film that came out that was a sort of a pseudo tribute to the Seven Deadly Sins and the music of In Excess. It uses a ton of Inexcesses music in the form of covers, and it's a short film about the Seven Deadly Sins. Really, really interesting thing. Haven't seen it myself, but I've heard the soundtrack, and I really dig it. Here is George Alice and Suicide Blonde.

Suicide was the color of her hair like a cheap distraction for a new affair she knew it would finish before it began oh baby think you lost the plan She streamed to the beat, but a close they are hot, white light everywhere, but you can't see a thing, such a squeeze, a mindset moment, glory to you, glory to you, take me here. You want to make a suicide blow Love devastation, suicide blow You want to make a suicide blow

Love devastation, suicide blow Got some revelation Put into your hands Save you from your misery Like rain across the left Don't you see the color of deception? Turning your world around again. You want to make a suicide blow.

Love devastation, suicide blow. You want to make a suicide blow. Love devastation, suicide blow. You want to make a suicide blow Love devastation, suicide blow You want to make a suicide blow Love devastation, suicide blow You want to make a suicide blow

Love devastation, suicide blow Hello, I'm a tailor, and your pants size is frog. You're always welcome at frogpants.com. Never keep your beans in the freezer.