The Morning Stream - TMS 2799: Soul Serum

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Foretold in the Sacred Documents. I Had Dinner With Zeeeeeeee. Cillian Murphy; server extraordinaire. The Convention Convention, How Convenient. Smoking or non smoking drink. I'm not the sparkly type.... You can have my dried squid. MGM Fruit Rollup. James is Such a Blunt. MMmmmmm Sausage Blanket. Squirt You Some Pearl Jam. College Ruled Lines. Gay Bengay. The Sphere - An OSHA Violation in Motion. Tiny things and Oversized things with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They say nothing makes a sound in space. If that's true, then can you explain the loud farts of Jupiter? No? Well, then that probably means you need to support this show at patreon.com slash TMS today. Coming up on the morning stream, foretold in the sacred documents. Brian had dinner with Z. Killian Murphy, server extraordinaire. The convention convention, how convenient.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Smoking or non-smoking drink. I'm not the sparkly type. You can have my dried squid. MGM fruit roll-up James is such a blunt Mmm sausage blanket Squirt you some pearl jam
Starting point is 00:00:37 College ruled lines Gay ben gay The sphere and OSHA violation in motion Tiny things and oversized things With Bill and more On this episode of the morning stream Please don't flush it
Starting point is 00:00:52 While he's on The noise and the splashing May frighten him And discourage him from trying again Ah, the famous Bonanza salad bar. Hey, this really inspires me. The morning stream. He's taking a dump in a can.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. Yes, it's the morning stream for Tuesday, March 25th, 2025. We've got our 2525 finally, it finally happened. There it is. Finally happened. Yeah. It was foretold in the sacred documents yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:41 That's right. It'll happen every day for, well, once a month, there'll be one day where we get a 25, 25 this year for the rest of the year. That's kind of cool. Yeah, it's true. I guess we had that for 24, too, and 23. You know, we've really had it since 2001. And it's never been a problem. 25 years.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. In 2030 or I guess 2030 because you'll have some missing 31s. That'll be the kind of end of it. In 29. Oh, yeah, right. We'll have at least one missing month. Yeah. Well, I mean, not at least.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I mean, we'll have one missing month because that won't be a leap year. That's true. That's true. It can be a weird year. So enjoy the next three years of 12 month guaranteed of their big a day with the same. The last two digits is your year. That's right. Now, I have it on some decent authority. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:31 That Brian ate better than I did last night. Tell us the story. Tell us the tale. Yeah, so got an invite to a dinner for put up by the Las Vegas Convention and Tourism Bureau. And normally I'd say, oh, yeah, no, that's okay. Delete the email. that I saw that it was a dinner at Ocean Prime, which is, this is a place that if you're coming to Denver and you say, hey, Brian, can you recommend some restaurants? If you use the phrase, money is no object, then Ocean Prime is going to be one of those restaurants that I'm going to recommend because that is a restaurant where money has to be no object.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I mean, you know, it's an object. You pay. Sure. You pay a price. and maybe you know you like fancy dinners and maybe money is an object to you but you like to be well treated you like to treat yourself yeah as they say sure um but seeing that as like you know what all right i think i will rsvp back and say yes i'm interested and uh so we got put on the on the guest list for this and i wasn't sure what to expect because um the email uh i think was put on the list by Z. Z is our new Bernadette at the plaza in Vegas for TMS Vegas. Zee, the letter short
Starting point is 00:04:00 letter or is it like ZEE? ZEE or? I don't know what that's, I know that's short for something and last night would have been a perfect opportunity to ask her that question but we were talking about so many other things. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So anyway, so you know, I talked with her beforehand and said, oh, this sounds like it's going to be pretty cool she's like yeah just a really casual thing we're all in town for a um a convention it's funny at the convention center in denver right now is a convention about conventions so it's like if you're going to have a convention come to our city and here's all the convention people you'll talk to with all the different hotel people interesting um sounds like a big uh like Vegas wide initiative sort of deal kind of but not apparently not just Vegas I didn't
Starting point is 00:04:52 I didn't really look at the convention details, but it's the group that invited me was all Las Vegas. And to that effect, we walk in there, and it's a table. Tina said that there were 10 on each side. Maybe there were. Okay, let's say 10 on each side and three on each end, so 26 people with maybe a couple seats empty. And there were title or placards at every seat. So I looked down and it's like, oh, Brian Abbott, Coverville Media LLC, TNabit, Coverville Media LLC, Z, the plaza. But I'm looking at these other names and it's like, so-and-so, Colorado Avalanche.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That's definitely more than just Vegas. Wow, that's weird. DeVita, yeah. Well, those were, like me, invited guests. Oh, I see. of them were so-and-so from MGM properties, another one from Caesar's properties, another one from J.W. Marriott, sat next to her, Chantel from J.W. Marriott, and she was, she was hilarious and delightful. She was great. We, you know, talked the whole evening. Another woman
Starting point is 00:06:13 from Green Valley Ranch, another one from the Rio. It was a guy named Robert Rodriguez from the Rio and it's like oh I love all your movies yeah keep making you know sequels did on or day the no what is the dead one shit dead like dead like Clooney
Starting point is 00:06:31 Clooney like Clooney is dead like Clooney yeah Dust still done that's still done that's it yeah so so all those people by the way when we came in it was almost like a gauntlet where
Starting point is 00:06:44 they were kind of all waiting at the door we were five seven to seven minutes early because we came from across town pretty much everybody else is downtown and so they can just get there right on time but we walk in and it's immediately like hi i'm heather from mGM thanks for coming and i'm thinking oh okay hi and choose myself and you know tina and then uh uh take a few steps oh it's hi from i'm from the rio and oh hi i'm from caesar's it's like okay all right good what's this thing going to be yeah i'd be nervous at this point i would be nervous yeah Because I was thinking, oh, my God, is this going to be like a timeshare kind of meeting? Because it's one big table as opposed to just a bunch of little tables in the room. It's one big, you know, big table. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So everybody gets there. There's a guy who looks like Killian Murphy. And I'm not going to gloss over that because when he came over to bring me a drink, I said, so do people tell you you look like Killian Murphy? And he says, oh, I was down at the other end. You see the woman in Orange? All she had to say was, you know who you look like? And he said, Killian Murphy.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And she says, yes. It would even be better if he was Irish, but sadly. I know, yeah, no, he had a little bit of a Boston accent. But this guy, this guy was server extraordinaire. So he, you know, he did cocktails and some drinks they had actually mixed right there at the table. So he'd, like, do the whole, like, cocktail Tom Cruise, Brian Brown kind of thing. I love that.
Starting point is 00:08:22 When he would bring you, like, they take away all your silverware between each course. And so he, like, grabs the, like, grabs the butter and slides it right onto you, right in front of you. Or, you know, takes us a steak knife and, like, everything he did was with a lot of flourish. It was great. So, so we all sit down. um we uh we're given a menu a prefix menu uh basically which you know you've got like um this you're getting automatically this you can choose two different appetizers salad or lobster bisque uh for your entree chicken salmon or filet mignon uh here are the two dessert choices etc and so we give all all of
Starting point is 00:09:09 our orders i get a um an incredible smoked bourbon old fashion that was so freaking good Smoked. How do they do that? How do they smoke it? What do you do? Yeah. So they, this was cool. And again, our dude with the, you know, Killian Murphy, uh, uh, dude brought out a bottle that had the cocktail already mixed inside it. And then there was a layer of smoke. So it was like a glass bottle that they mixed the drink, poured in there. And then they used a, there are these things you can put wood chips in. And then it has a little pipe and you put that in and blow the smoke into the drink and then close. the glass lid. So the smoke kind of permeates the drink.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But you can tell, right? The taste of it changes. You can tell it there's been a smoking. Totally can taste it. Yeah, absolutely. Because then it's more like you're, it's less like you're tasting the smoke and more like you're smelling the smoke
Starting point is 00:10:06 as you're drinking it. Oh, okay. There's not a smoky flavor like barbecue or anything, but as you're drinking, you kind of smell. I'm like, oh, yeah, I totally smell a smoke. Because I always felt, Every time you see that, I've seen it before being done at a table. And I always just thought it was ceremonial, fun.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah. Kind of like having the little chocolate dome that you then light on fire and melts or whatever. Yeah, exactly. And some of that, some of that is that. Some of that is like, yeah, I can't really tell the difference. But with a smoke drink, definitely can with the, again, it's more of a flavor for the, for the senses, the nose than it is for the, of the tongue for the palate. Of course, I opt for the lobster biscuit, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And before they even bring any of the right, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, food, they haul in these seafood towers. And it's like, it, it, but it's like, it, it, but it's, it, my seafood tower might, might, might be, I mean, they're called seafood towers, but they're, they're really two tiers. The bottom, all oysters. Maybe, maybe, uh, 18 oysters around the bottom. And then the top is, like, crab legs kind of looking like a campfire. Oh, criss-crossed.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You know, against each other, like a little pyramid of crab legs. No prawns or big shrimps or anything? No prawns, no shrimp, no, yeah. None of that. And then they also bring, like, plates of this really amazing Asian calamari, fried calamari in this really good, like, terriaki sauce and ravioli. Oh, crabbe.
Starting point is 00:11:46 cakes, things like that. Those are on separate plates, and we're all kind of scooping and putting on our plates. But they don't put a seafood tower directly in front of me. They put one basically in all the cardinal locations on the table. So right in the
Starting point is 00:12:02 center of the two ends and then two in the middle of the other groups. And I can't reach the one to my right. The closest one to me is the one at the end of the table. But to get to it, I'm totally going to have to like stand up, grab a noise or pull it back, get a little bit of the horse radish and cocktail sauce, and bring it back to my plate.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Well, fortunately, Mrs. J.W. Marriott sees this and says, oh, here, have, let me, and she pushes the thing a little bit closer to me. So had two or three of those. Meanwhile, dude three down from me, who had one of these seafood towers put directly in front of him. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Does that look like that? Okay. Kind of like that without, yeah, without all the extra.
Starting point is 00:12:44 There's a lot of extra stuff on there. Yeah, I think I see some, like, full-body shrimp peels and some other stuff on there. A cluster of snow crab and stuff on there. Man, if you're allergic, if you're allergic to seafood, this must be a nightmare image. This would totally be a nightmare, yeah. Oh, Claire, I could take you, if you come to Denver, I will take you to a couple seafood places that will change your mind about seafood in Colorado. Everybody thinks that because Utah and Colorado are landlocked and don't have, we're not access to the ocean directly or whatever. There's no way there's good seafood here.
Starting point is 00:13:15 We'll pay a little more, but we, there is, that is not true. There are places that are amazing. It sounds like this is one of them, but man. This is one of them. Yeah, Ocean Prime and Water Grill are two places that I would say, if you didn't know you were in Colorado, you'd have no idea because the seafood tastes so good and fresh and that sort of thing. That's true, Claire, I guess you're not going to eat the seafood if I take you any place in Colorado, of course. That's good.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah, it's a full-on vegan, yeah. That's right. And we do have fish in Colorado. No, Claire, we have some of the best... You'll never have better trout. Rainbow trout. Oh, yeah, no. Up here in the freaking Wasatch Mountains and the rivers and stuff,
Starting point is 00:13:53 you'll never have better trout in your life. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Little Miss Irish. Anyway, go ahead. So dude two or three down for me has polished off the entire bottom tier of oysters, which they said it in front of him, and there was nobody else on either side of him that was like wanton, want oysters.
Starting point is 00:14:12 so good on him for doing that. And I would have done exactly the same thing if somebody would put it right in front of me because nobody was taking those oysters. When they came to bring all of our appetites, the lobster best and salad that we had ordered, they started taking those seafood towers away. And it was really hard for me not to say,
Starting point is 00:14:34 could you put those in a box for me? All the oysters that didn't get eaten. Could you box those up? I avoid, the sickest I've ever been in my life was maybe on oysters, so I would probably not be a problem. Everybody else can have them. Have the oysters, everybody. Can't do it.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah. Can't do it. Happy to take your share of oysters. You can have my... Please do. Yeah. I'll take whatever you don't want. What do you not like on that tray?
Starting point is 00:14:59 You say those little squid, oh, nothing on the tray. I'll eat everything there. The only thing that I don't like that you enjoyed were those, when we got those squid snacks from somebody who sent those in. Dried squid. Yeah. tried squid you can have my bag i do like that dried squid don't know why just love it it's gross it's it tastes like dead fish on the on the bank of a river it's like disgusting but somehow i like it
Starting point is 00:15:22 i don't get it it's it was good once i ate it but i have to hold my nose when i open the bag it really stinks yeah so uh anyway so after after all that they you know lady stands up and she starts clinking her glass and i'm like all right here it comes here comes the the here, here's the pitch, the wind up. No, she just says, hey, I just want to thank you all for coming. You know, you're our invited guests. We've appreciated the support you've given us and, you know, events you've held at our, at our places or have talked with us about holding.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And we're just going to go around the room really quick with the different people from the hotel groups, just to say hi if you didn't get a chance to meet them. they're just going to say hi say their name and kind of let you know what they've got and that was kind of it like basically you know z from the plaza stood up and said hey i'm z um we just had a uh remodel on x number of rooms and we've got a bunch of great meeting spaces and this and that sits down lady from the rio or rather from uh green valley ranch stands up does the same thing took maybe two minutes that was the extent of any sort of sales pitchiness that was it it. And they don't expect you. They're not expecting you to say anything. They don't want
Starting point is 00:16:45 you to, okay. You're a guest. You know, yeah, no, the people sitting next to me, Chanel from J.W. Marriott asked what I do and we talked about podcasting. She's like, oh my God, my girlfriend and I have been thinking about starting a podcast. What do you do? And I said, oh, you know, record that first one. Rip off the Band-Aid. Don't, don't overplan because two things are going to happen you're going to listen to it and say okay we need to fix this and this and this and then the other thing is you're going to hear your voice and hate it and you just need to get over it you'll never go back to that episode and want to listen to it again ever no never never so record it get it out of the way and move on it's really episode two where you start that's good advice good advice
Starting point is 00:17:29 indeed well that's great so uh did we glean anything so for whatever reason i had at my head that this was like all about the vagus our Vegas thing and it was like a meeting with yeah No. It's not that at all. No, but, but thank goodness. This was a great opportunity for us just to chat with Z. Not specifically about our event, but more like just, you know, where she's coming from, how she came into this, took over from Monique, who we had last year and, of course, Bernadette two years ago. And she's like, oh, Bernadette took great notes on you guys.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So, so I knew almost right off the bat what you guys like. like what you're up to, what you need before you even made the first email. That's great, because Bernadette's notes are going to be the best notes of all the notes. They are going to be the best notes. Yes, exactly. She's awesome. Now, let's get into this.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Every seat had one of these deals, these little Las Vegas gift bags. And having never gone to the Emmys or the Oscars, I've always wanted to go to an event that had gift bags. So let's kind of go through. I did glance in here. So I know that this won't take hours. This will just take a couple minutes.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Oh, but we're still sort of kind of unwrapping in real time here. You haven't fully seen this. Yeah, I have not examined. Oh, I didn't know. Okay. Yes. Awesome. I did, examine this thing right here. Yeah. Which is, I've
Starting point is 00:18:58 wrapped it back up, but this is a massive thermal blanket. Like you can keep in your car or your backpack if you're traveling. It's like a, the company is like 32 degrees. Three, no, what is it? It's a packable featherweight down, 32 weatherproof blanket. So you get stuck in the snow and you got to sleep in your car or something because you can't move.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Exactly. Yeah. That's great. Super lightweight and it's a massive blanket that kind of folds down to this little sausage shape. Yeah, look at that thing. I like that. We took ours out last night. I had to look at that. But the rest of this stuff is all relatively new.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Let's start with this thing that's kind of sticking out of the top. All right. What have we got there? this is a fruit roll up or something what is that it is a it is an MGM lanyard okay oh it's sparkly like it didn't look sparkly in the bag but boy is it sparkly you can kind of see it kind of reflecting the the light um oh wow does look very sparkle would be impressed with how sparkly that looks Gerald would definitely be impressed and it's got the NGM lion Leo the lion nice bottom here nice and a little place to hang your thing so this is like if you're going
Starting point is 00:20:09 to the conference, this is what you might hang your lanyard on. Sure. Based on how sparkly it is, look for this in a guess the connection prize package coming soon to a thing near you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Brian, you know, I don't really think of Brian as the sparkly type necessarily. I'm not the sparkly type. No. Be dazzled.
Starting point is 00:20:31 That's right. All right. We've got from the win. Oh, sweet. Spending some of that Steve Win money is what looks like... A notepad? A notepad or a... It is.
Starting point is 00:20:45 It's a little... It's a notebook. Oh, I was like, it doesn't open very well. Like, it doesn't open all the way, but that's because there's this little paper stripe thing on it. Are the pages pull outable or are they, uh, is it bound? Nope, it's bound. It's a fixed, um, fixed, uh, but I do enjoy the college ruled, uh, lines. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:05 my favorite of the of the lines I like the college rule stuff is the exact it's the only distance that should exist between lines that you're writing on yeah you're not you're not at all wrong yeah I've always felt that way
Starting point is 00:21:20 very strongly let's see what else we got we got something serum oh shit soul serum probably face stuff this sounds like something my wife
Starting point is 00:21:33 this is face stuff yeah If you, yeah, around the table, by the way, there were only three guys. By the way, last night. Yeah. Oyster guy, you, and another dude. Oh, all right. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Exactly. Yes. Robert Rodriguez, oyster guy and me. Yep. Soul serum. Oh, soul, S-O-L-E. Soothing serum relief for foot pain. Oh.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Okay. I mean, you know, we all have that out of here occasionally or whatever, you know. After a day of being on the full. at the convention, you put this stuff. I bet it smells a little what's that stuff called? Gay, Ben Gay.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Why do you keep saying gay? Gay, gay. Gay, Ben? I can't think of the name. Ben Gay. I enjoyed watching you learn about scissors yesterday. Oh my God. Still spinning from that one. I took so much shit for that. Laughing my head off that whole time.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I loved it. Oh, my gosh. And the worst part is, I didn't it took so long and I kept pushing it that's the problem is I should have just said oh okay tell me later and then moved on yeah but instead I had to be schooled by my freaking daughter on a thing I'd never heard of no oh of all things to have to learn from your child gross yeah yeah so this is kind of cool um I'll take this to Vegas and I'll put some on my feet after a day of being on my feet all day yeah we'll have those coming up real soon that'll happen in fact you're gonna have that the first night you get there because of your concert business you're gonna get all footy you know i am not uh it's it's fear man there is no way oh yeah that's another thing you go to a concert at sphere yeah this is this is the old man and me kind of loving this aspect of the sphere people are not going to be standing up and dancing because of how steep that thing is no it's like a osha violation the minute you stand up you have to sit especially when they're tripping on lSD or acid or whatever you dead heads are or into these days honestly it doesn't even
Starting point is 00:23:32 feel safe sitting in there, let alone standing. It's so sheer the drop. It's crazy. It's the only venue that really should include seatbelts. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, Brian says that, but I kind of I mean, I kind of, I would vote for it. It's really nuts. And if you're
Starting point is 00:23:48 just, if you're a little tipsy from the night out and you're in there watching the thing and then you stand up too quick, you're at risk. Like, seriously at risk of falling. It's really crazy in there, but anyway. There's still an OSHA cyber, cyber, cyber, cyborg dude. Anyway, go ahead. They haven't killed
Starting point is 00:24:04 that yet. Still a Notia. Next up is a cleaning cloth. I feel like this is a QVC. Available in three easy payments of 2395. This comes from the Waldorf Astoria and features that thing that held the Enterprise
Starting point is 00:24:20 D in an early episode of Star Trek the next generation and wouldn't let it escape. Yeah, the big space grid that didn't seem to have a ceiling or a basement but had lots of walls around it. I kept thinking, Picard, just go down or go up. You can get out.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's fine. You don't have to be stuck. Right. It's not like it goes on in infinity up or down, or maybe that was the idea that it did. Exactly. Yes. Thulean Webb. Thank you, Jeannie.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yes. Now, I saved this one for last because I kind of have an idea of what's in this. This is from a check for $1 million. I know, right. Wouldn't that be great? No, this comes from the plaza. And this is, so one of the things that we, we wanted this year was access to the showroom, which is right off the casino floor.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And I might have shared photos from this thing early on when I toured it with James and Svet. But it looks like a traditional Las Vegas ballroom, performance room, showroom, where there's a stage down below, tiered seats that go all the way up. And those first two rows, no, every row of tiered seats are those little half-circle booth tables. Yeah. It's like old school like Tony Bend it up there kind of stuff. Exactly. Like you expect somebody up there singing and the band is behind them all behind little
Starting point is 00:25:40 vertical scallops performing behind these vertical scallops that I'm embossed with somebody's name. Anyway, no, this is pretty cool. This is a certificate for two tickets and two complimentary cocktails. Currently in the showroom, the reason we couldn't get it for TMS Vegas is because there is a variety show, a drag show by
Starting point is 00:26:07 Misbehaves Mavericks downtown's premier variety show. So there's a drag show now in the showroom four or five nights a week. Is it Miss like M-I-S-S space? M-I-S space behaves. Yes, Miss behaves. Got it. Nice. Nice stage name. And unfortunately, I'm so busy this time around. I'm not going to be able to use it and teen and i both got these so we'll figure something out oh yeah somebody somebody's gonna be the hot winter somebody exactly it's like everybody's got stuff going on every night but um there's bound to be someone there's bound to be somebody you know one of those early nights it's like oh dude can i have those tickets yeah hell yeah so reach out we'll talk but um anyway you know what not a bad not a bad little bit of uh yeah oh yeah i like it i even
Starting point is 00:26:56 like your bag it's a cool bag you should hang on that bag no Yeah. Get that black logo on there? It's badass. There is a hole in the bottom of the bag. Like right here, a little tiny hole in the bottom of the bag. Oh, that's just so you can breathe when they capture you and take you so. Keep you alive.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But all and all, yeah. All and all, great time about a lot better of a, um, I was, like I said, I was really worried that it was going to be super schmoozy and, um, and awkward and unpleasant. And the whole thing was really nice. Yeah, it's pretty rare. When a hotel or anything related to that industry wants to have you all sit down for something, it always smells like timeshare vibes, right? Like, oh, shit. What are they going to talk me?
Starting point is 00:27:41 Some membership or something. And I hate that feeling so bad. So this must have been like, I just made the steak go down nice, I'll bet is what happened there. It really did. Yeah, it was a very, exactly. It made for, you know, all the worry and trepidation that I had was. like, oh, okay, this is really just, you know, excuse me, like they said at the beginning, it's our way of thanking you for supporting our convention rooms and our ballrooms and
Starting point is 00:28:09 bringing your events to our hotels and that's all it is. And it's like, wow, okay. Yeah. More companies need to do that. I agree. It's like a nice, wet oyster sliding down your throat. Yeah. Well, there you go. A couple quick things as we move from that to, remember we talked about iPods? You have this big collection of old iPods and all that. We had this whole discussion about iPods. Ian wrote in, and I think I saw Ian in the chat. I hope I did.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Oh, cool. Because today we play his call. And here's what he had to say about iPods. Hey, guys, it's Ian. Just literally listening to the current episode, and you were talking about the iPod earlier, made me think of two things. One, I didn't have an iPod until the iPod touch generation.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And up until that point, I was running around with a Zen Vision M. which was one of the better iPod alternatives, but it just made me think of all these different companies that don't make anything approaching MP3 players anymore, like Zen, Sansa, I River, all these companies don't even bother to make anything like it anymore because MP3 players are phones, which then led me to the second thing,
Starting point is 00:29:20 which is that we still call them podcasts long after the iPod no longer exists. Again, technically, I guess we still have iPods inside of our Apple phones. But guess what? I have a Samsung. So I guess I'm still using the iPod alternative to listen to my podcast. Maybe Leo was right and we should have been calling them Netcast the entire time, but it's too late now. Love the show though. Love the hobo. Let's test the ship's phasers. Talk to you guys soon. Geez, all the all the memes. Nice job. Yeah, I don't know what that one he said he had. The creative Zen Vision M, which is really
Starting point is 00:29:58 cool. Color screen and basically looks like an iPod but instead of a wheel, a click wheel you had a vertical stripe that you would move your thumb up and down to scroll through and select items. Oh, okay, I have a vague memory of this. I had the Creative Labs
Starting point is 00:30:14 big fat one, the gray CD looking one. Nomad? Creative? I think it was Yeah, Creative Nomad, yeah. I had that. Nomad Jukebox or something. It had like four gig, which was crazy then or something. But then The Zen, I think the Zen vision may have been the final.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, I think this was their final vibe before they got out of that world. I was looking at I River, they were sold in 2014 to SK Telecom, and they don't do any of this shit anymore. In fact, they're called dreamists now as of 2019. And they don't make, they don't really make anything. So, Apple just kind of killed them all. They really did. Yeah, so, yeah, talking about the term podcast. I know there were a lot of people of those early days who saw the writing on the wall probably and said these things aren't, you know, iPods aren't going to be around forever where they're going to be other things.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Plus, people don't just listen on Apple devices. So let's try calling them these other things. And Leo had netcasts. I'm sure I think somebody had MP3 shows or something like that. audio shows. They all sounded dumb. None of them worked. It did.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like, podcast is a great name, not just because of its origin, but because it's easy to say, it rhymes with broadcast. It's in a pod. Like, I don't know. It works outside of iPods, you know. Exactly. And that's the way, you know, we'll tell our grandchildren, well, there were, there were these things called iPods, but then it just became like a pod.
Starting point is 00:31:49 You would listen to, it's like a little self-contained pod of entertainment. And so we just kept the name podcasts. Yeah. And I doubt. I mean, whoever named originally named, I don't know if it was jobs or somebody else, but whoever named it pod, I pod, had no idea that it would become a ubiquitous part of a name that now continues on. And there's a generation of people who say, dude, I'd like to listen to your pod. They don't even know the reference. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I hate when they say this. And please don't. Please don't call it a pod. It's a podcast. Yeah, I hear it all the time. I hate it. I don't hate people who say it. I don't blame you.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You've grown up on a weird time. But when you come to me and say, dude, I love your pod. it does kind of make me have a little diarrhea right then when you do that right you don't go up to quentin tarentino and say oh my god i'm such a fan of your moose yeah your moos nobody gives a shit about your moose we care about your movies exactly your moos love your moose yeah stephan once again with the zoon love she's always piping in about her zune yeah stephani loved her zune there were some good interface choices that that zune had and had they come up with a better name for transferring music from one one person to another besides the term squirting, that might have been a feature. Like, it might have been the iPod killer feature. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Ooh. Like, you really like this song? It was before we decided to just cast all fear of germs into the wind and start sharing our AirPods with one another. You know, you can say, oh, here's this great new song by this unknown band called PORNO for Pyros. Let me squirt it to you. Yeah, let me squirt you. this thing. And the problem with that was also
Starting point is 00:33:28 not enough people had Zune, so you had nobody to squirt it at. You know what I mean? Like, how often could you even use the damn thing? You'd just be hey, I can squirt you this song. They're like, I'm sorry, you can do what? You can you do what? Yeah, so dumb. Let me squirt you some pearl jam. Nope, sorry, bye.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I don't know whose idea. Could have been squirt casts in a different Squirtcasts you love. And people you And people you shouldn't be in the room with. Well, anyway, there's that. Thanks for that. Also, we got a Scottish take on the blunt word.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Now, I've been taking a poll this whole time. I'll share it one more time in the chat because for some reason, when I say it out loud, they vote faster than they do if I just post it in there. So I don't know what that's about. But it's a new poll. I just put it in about how often you use the C word. Fill that out while I play this call. And then we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 All right. So here you go. Good morning, TMS. I'm a few weeks behind. for that. Listening to your conversation about the use of the word you're calling blunt, growing up in Scotland, we used it all the time. When I was 18 and grew a beard for the first time, my mother told me that's not a beard. That's a blunt with teeth. I married an Irish woman, and when I met her mother-in-law, she was talking about the blunts next door. It can be used affectionately, you know, you can have a gas time with your mates and you can refer to them as blunts. This is so strange using the word blunt. because the word you don't like to use is one of my favorite words, and I keep going to use it. Anyway, yeah, I think it's a socioeconomic thing. I think different regions have different ways of using swear words.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I am led to believe that people that swear have a better vocabulary than those that don't, but that might just be a click-bate headline I read somewhere. Hello from Scotland and Ireland, and I love this show. though. I love it. Our bagpiper Bill will call him. I don't think he left a name. That's great. That is, that tells me a lot more, like, that's kind of what I was looking for is where is this stuff like culturally cool? Where is it
Starting point is 00:35:35 just part of common language? It doesn't mean, you know, I think it means the same thing everywhere, but it's not, it's not here, it kind of just refers to the private parts. Yeah. Just, you know. But there it's like, yeah, that dude's a real blunt. Yeah, I think the equivalent in America, if I had to guess, is the P-word, which I won't say either. But that one has multiple meanings.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And one of them is a kitty. The other one is the, and the third one is a guy who's being a big wimpy poo-poo, right? Exactly. So we have these, we have a version of that, but it still just seems so harsh. All right, let's check on the votes. We have. So I did how often you use the C-word? rarely sometimes and all the time we have 41% of never say never rarely 32% sometimes 21 and a paltry 3.6% or just two votes say all the time and I'm gonna get we can kind of guess who that is so let's see I can kind of guess one of the one of those all the times yeah I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Claire and who else would it be
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Be curious. Got to be, got to be her, though. Yes, she's confirmed that she is one of the two. He uses it all the time. I mean, how could it not be? Cheese, Louise. Yeah. And I hope, you know, it does sound better when it's blunt, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:07 What are you saying? Yeah. More of a, the long ooze sound. Blunt. Blunt. It's fun to say. All right. Moving from that to basketball. Luke from Boulder from Colorado there.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You know Luke there. He knows more about. men's basketball in Utah than I do apparently. Apparently so. He's following March Madness. Yeah. Way closer than me. Says Luke from Boulder here BYU Men's Basketball won both their March Madness games this weekend. I had no
Starting point is 00:37:33 idea. And they're on to they're on to the Sweet 16 this week. They have a good team. I knew that, but I didn't know how far they'd get. Just in case you want to watch some local kids that are making some waves in the tournament. Yeah, you know, they get that far and I start my fandom grows.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Like I start to care about local sports more when we're doing okay you know like you couldn't have pulled me away from NBA games in the 90s when the jazz were like always right there like every time we were like way into the playoffs and then the bulls would take us out last second because Jordan and the worst timing ever to be playing against Jordan but we had such a great team that I was you wouldn't even recognize me like I was a nerd for it I loved it but when they're bad I'm a fair weather fan if it's going great I'm in. If it's not, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:38:22 It's like, y'all suck. I'm not, I can't. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. Yeah, like Cleveland Browns fans. You guys just, you blow my mind how die hard you are. Your team's never going to win shit, right? The Browns are never going to get a Super Bowl, ever. They haven't yet.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Right. Haven't they? I should make sure that's true. Okay. The Browns have never won a Super Bowl or even gone, right? I don't think they've been to the big dance. I don't think they have. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm going to look them up. Yeah. Cleaning the Browns never won a Super Bowl and have not made an appearance. Okay, so they are as bad as I think. And that's fine. It's your team, but I just can't spend money on them and get excited when they're not earning my fandom. You know what I mean? You got to be good to earn the fandom.
Starting point is 00:39:13 But BYU, there you go. Yeah, BYU kicking ass. Well, I don't know what Utah's doing, but usually it's a big fight between those two. and Utah did real well last year, so I have no idea where the U of you is right now. But anyway. Yeah, CSU got knocked out. I had to go uncheck because I am in a bracket,
Starting point is 00:39:30 you know, a March Madness pool with a bunch of other guys that I know through The Real Chris Brown. I have to say his name as the real Chris Brown. Hi, Chris Brown, because I know he listens. I'm currently out of 37 players or 37 brackets because a lot of people have done multiple brackets. It's not me. I'm currently ranked 33rd among the 37th people, brackets submitted.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So, not looking good. No. Not looking good for me. You did better. I think you had way better time with the NFL draft this year or last year. I totally did, yeah. The NFL pick up. Or the picks.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. What the heck that was called? My final four is still intact. I've got Auburn, Michigan, Duke, and Alabama as my final. uh i'm sorry duke houston michigan state and florida as my final four gotcha um and my eight is still intact not a lot of my 16 is intact though okay but you but on the tail end here you could really clean up is what you could do i could yeah exactly um i'd have to see what what other people's like let's look at um we'll look at 10th place okay that's still not bad his his yeah his
Starting point is 00:40:48 His final four is still attacked, but his final four is all number ones. Ah, gotcha. So, yeah. So he's just got Auburn, Florida, Duke, and Houston. I hear you say Auburn, Duke, and Florida. And I just go, well, yeah, of course you pick those three. They're Auburn Duke and Florida, right? They're always winning.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yeah. It's bastards. They have a monopoly down there. Casey Dea corrects me. He says the Utes did not do well last year. They fired the head coach this year. They are in some third-party new tournament now. So sorry, University of Utah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 running yutes you blew it uh all right one final note uh this is a letter or a message from uh andrea in colorado springs formerly in new jersey says this uh this is for brian in the morning stream
Starting point is 00:41:38 Tina is a mccoy question mark that's true right Tina mccoy yes she is she is a mccoy says i'm also an irish mccoy my dad's uh sorry my birth dad's last name was McCoyne directly from Ireland so cool to be distantly related to Tina so I wonder if there's a there may even be a closer third four cousin something going on there who knows
Starting point is 00:41:58 there might be yeah because it was yeah we'll have to we'll have to talk because you know was Tina's dad he didn't come from Ireland but his maybe his grandfather did so we'll have to trace back and see it'd be hilarious if there's a little bit you know if nothing else
Starting point is 00:42:14 distant cousins we'll come on up and we'll have a Guinness with you Yeah. Or harp. Better you had a harp. Yeah, why not? And also, if any Hatfields want to call in about how mad you are about us giving McCoy's stage time here, let us know. It's funny. That's a name you just don't hear very much. Hatfield's no. It makes me feel like the McCoys won. Right. Do you know what I mean? Tina still can't listen to Julianna Hatfield or the Lemonheads because of that, everything else. Fair game.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah, but you just like common people, like normal people, I don't know any Hatfields. I know I know multiple McCoys, Tina, one of them. Right. And that makes me feel like in the end, the feud is over and the McCoy's stand victorious. McCoy's won. Yeah. I mean, look, we're breaking that news right here right now on the show. Yeah, exactly. Oh, gosh. We're going to start a brand new feud. It's going to be the Johnson's versus that field. Oh, shit. Great. They're coming after me. Yeah, but they're down. I'll get them while they're down. You know, it'll be fun. Get them while they're down. Yeah. All right. Get them while they're down. Now, here's the deal. You're all here for it. So we're going to present you now.
Starting point is 00:43:17 with some news. Hey, Brian, it's the news brought to you by. It's brought to you by Daily Music Headlines, episode two, out now. Learn about Lizzo and I read all this. What did I talk about? Miley Cyrus has a new album coming out. Napster just got bought. Yes, Napster.
Starting point is 00:43:39 This is a news story from 2025. Yeah, that name keeps getting thrown around. You know, every couple years, it's like Napster got bought. It's like, what are they doing? No, no, they're still trying to figure it out. Yeah, and yeah, the newest figure out is advertising in the Metaverse, so good luck with that. Jeez, got to be kidding me. What, meta's Metaverse?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like, freaking that thing? I think so. I think so. It wasn't capital Metaverse, so maybe not, but... I hate this term. I have the same question, and it wasn't clear from the article, so we just kind of... Absolutely hate the name Metaverse. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I know it actually means something, and I know it... Yes. I just don't like how it's been co-opted. I hate it. That's right. Oh, don't worry, Monica. I've left plenty of meat on the bone. There is still lots to learn from today's episode of Daily Music Headlines.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah, go check it out today. Even a K-pop article today. What? K-pop. What K-pop band has decided to go on hiatus over a dispute with their label over mistreatment? Find out in today's daily music headlines. Which band is changing its name?
Starting point is 00:44:46 to Pink Black from Black Pink. Which band is changing their name to? TBS. That's right. The Turner Broadcasting Source, whatever it was called. Hey, we got this headline. University graduate returns a book to a school's library after 64 mother effing years. Wow. University of British Columbia graduate mailed a package to the school.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It turned out to be a book he had borrowed from the library 64 years ago. That's right. 64, six decades and four years. That's how that works with the math. Susan Parker, a librarian at the university, set a package arrived in January. She opened it, discovered a 1931 edition of Horace Kephart's book, Camping and Woodcraft, handbook for vacation campers and for travelers in the wilderness. Oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I've been on the wait list for that book forever. So finally. I know, right? You go out in the woods, you're like, shit. Take it. I wish I had that book camping and woodcraft. I don't know what to do. I'm going to have to eat toothpaste.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Like the Chinese kid. The book had been checked out by the library in 1960 by then-student Robert Murray. See, most people return books, overdue books surreptitiously or anonymously, she says. I've never received one this long overdue. The book was accompanied by a letter to Murray, now 83, along with a check for about 70 bucks. That was nice. Look at that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Real honesty on display here. Geez, Louise. A little bit. Maybe a little too. Maybe a little too much. Send back the book. Nobody's like sending back the book with a little sticky note that says, find me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:23 He said, this is what the letter said. It said, I determined that this book was a treasure, a light year ahead of anything published on the subject at the time that I borrowed it. And it has remained so over anything I've seen published since, he wrote. Wow, he's really into camping and woodwork shit and all that. Totally. It took me 60 years to figure all this stuff out. I feel like now I can I can camp and and whittle myself a spear to catch a bore. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Also, 70 bucks. Like, I don't know what the, if you account for late fee inflation, whatever it is. Yeah. Is that enough? What's the retail price of that book? I'm guessing it's a lot less than that. Oh, yeah. Gotta be, right?
Starting point is 00:47:07 It'd be funny for you to actually find this. Let's just see if it's available. See what's, yeah, see if it's on Amazon. Yeah. So this is, uh, let's see. Where is it here? Where's the full name? If it's really cheap, we should, everybody listening should buy a copy from Amazon
Starting point is 00:47:20 and then send it to the University of British Columbia Library. So all of a sudden, they get 100 copies of... Like with a similar note where we talk about how magical it was. That's right. And a similar note that says, by the way, I invented time travel. By the way, I invented time travel. So this is 100% exist. You can buy it in paperback, hardcover, or Kindle.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It's not hard to get. Although this edition is called Legacy Edition, so it's a reprint, but it's still out there. And it has a perfect five-star rating. Wow. Yeah, a lot of reviews. Apparently, this is a big, meaningful thing to a bunch of people. That's cool. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It was printed originally in 1912. Oh, my gosh. All right. That's a long time ago. That's when you were camping for your life, you know? That's right. Exactly. this was camping and woodwork uh woodcraft were a lot more important back then because uh there was
Starting point is 00:48:18 the three three television channels and uh nothing else yeah if you even had that 1912 you didn't have that you had uh you had dirt you had uh you had a little toilet hole you know that you carved into the dirt right that's life that was it that's living that's just toilet hole yeah that's living in the city you know it then you go camping that's wild uh all right Captain America, big news on Captain America. Oh, finally. We now know where he's been since old man, Captain America, since end game. Yeah, not the new guy, not Falcon.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Although, man, that movie did not perform well. It didn't, which is too bad, but, yeah. I enjoyed it. It was okay. I did too, yeah. Yeah, it was a good time. I thought it was fine. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It was absolutely fine. And it did a really good job of, of, reintroducing Sam Wilson as Captain America. Like, it's fully establishing him after the Falcon Winter Soldier miniseries. Yeah, it's the strongest part of it, I think, is his... It really is, yes. Yeah, he's great. All right, but a fake one, a Captain America man.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Hey, Captain America. Yeah. Indicted for trying to storm a Chinese embassy. Is this something Captain America would do? I don't know. Let's find out. Probably not. The prosecution indicted a 40-something-year-old man earlier this week on charges of attempting to bypass or trespass into the Chinese embassy and a police station in Seoul, Korea. Prosecution official said Wednesday, the man surnamed On and known to be a supporter of President Yun-Suk-Yule.
Starting point is 00:49:58 There's neither one that's in trouble now for trying to do martial law or whatever, and they arrested him. Oh. Is that the Yun-Suk-Yul guy? I don't know. Yud-Suk-Yul, yeah. Anyway, this drew media attention in February, on the 14th, when he was. tried to rush through the gate in Central Soul without permission right into this embassy dressed as the Marvel Comics character Cap in America.
Starting point is 00:50:19 It's actually, if we look at this photo, it's actually a decent costume. He's, it's pretty decent, yeah, and he's even got what looks like the same metal shield that I have behind me here, that same Marvel Legends metal shield. It's too bad he's covered up by the flag so much because I'd like to see the rest of this costume. Yeah, no other photos, unfortunately. Yeah, why is there a U.S. flag anyway? because this is in
Starting point is 00:50:42 it's in Korea and it's the Chinese consulate it's got nothing to do with America. Embassy, yeah, I don't know. Is that his, maybe he brought that flag
Starting point is 00:50:50 because he's Captain America, see. Yep, could be, because his shield overlaps the front of it so he might be somehow carrying,
Starting point is 00:51:00 although I see, you know, don't really see another hand that he could be carrying it with. No, I don't know what he's doing there. It says here, the man,
Starting point is 00:51:08 let's say, babad-da-da-da, he's accused of breaking the glass gate of the Seoul Namaduram police station and attempting to enter the building at around 11 p.m. Demanding he be questioned quickly. He is also accused of swearing at a police officer at the time and creating a fake U.S. military ID. He's been put under arrest and is currently awaiting trial in Korea.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So there you go. Okay. Oh, here's a better shot of... Oh, boy. All right. Well, here's a better shot of the costume. also shot of him holding a gun. Oh, all right then. Captain America ever brandish a weapon other than his shield?
Starting point is 00:51:48 Sure, okay. Sure, yeah. The old 1940s cap had, at least the comic book cap, had a gun and a shield. What kind of gun? That gun almost looks fake. What's all that writing on it? It looks like... Timu...
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, it's got like a Timu gun vibe to me a little bit. Yeah, yeah. I think he's wearing gardening gloves. I'm just going to put that out. there those aren't great it might be yeah they're not the the rest of it like the you know it ain't chain mail but it's a pretty dang good uh it's all right yeah captain america it's it's it's he did not pick that up at spirit halloween no i don't think no i don't even know if they have him over there i don't either well good luck to him i don't think he's in uh i don't think
Starting point is 00:52:31 he's going to work out uh for him i think it's going to be yeah uh we're going to take a break when we come back from the break we're going to spend some time with our friends Bill who makes things and he's going to share with us what's going on right now inspire a few of you to maybe make some of your own shit okay so stick around for that Brian let's play a song in the meantime yeah sounds good and we played a song a while back by band called the taxpayers weeks ago I'm trying to figure out like how long ago was it it was quite a while ago because I don't even see it in my recent play indie in the middle list but they've got their brand new album the album that we were that we were teasing is finally out it's
Starting point is 00:53:09 called Circle Breaker, and it came out Friday. This is the next new single from the album. It's called At War with the Dog Catchers. Try not to let this, you know, make you upset about the impending requirement from the IRS for you to file. Just enjoy the taxpayers and at war with the dog catchers. I don't know I'm going to be able to be I'm
Starting point is 00:53:44 T. I'm at war with the gods and the dog catchers, I find hope in cartoons from discarded magazines. Where do I find salvation in this ecosystem? Love is more than I can take I make friends with the late and the disorder I find truth in the laws of an old technology Where will you when I needed you This is more than I can take
Starting point is 00:55:11 Every minute I begin When I end every circle is a means to someday come back again. I knew you when you were still alive. I got no faith in glory lies from dreams that came before me. Kill the gods, save all the dogs and all the dogs and remembers anything at all. I'm in love with the leaks from the rain gutter. I get lost on the way to a high fidelity. I don't know where all the days have run.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Watch and circle down the drain I take cues from the words of the dead peasants I rock arms with the foes of the new theology Whereof all my oldest friendship's gone There ain't nothing left to save Every minute I begin I end Every circle is a means
Starting point is 00:56:43 To someday come back again I knew When you When you were still alive I got no fainting Glowy lines from dreams that came before me Kill the God save all the dogs Hell who remembers
Starting point is 00:57:07 anything at all. I'm going to be able to be able to be. Yeah, it was just like, in a way, it's almost like as a little kid you realize, wow, we're going to be confined at times. Well, smoke, give it up to me. Yes, but it ain't up to me. There will be no one left alive to remember. Brian, who was that one more time? Sure. That's a band called The Taxpayers. This new album is great. Circle Breaker. Just came out Friday. The whole thing, really, really good. That song you just heard was, at war with the dog catchers. Check out the taxpayers online.
Starting point is 00:58:49 At war with the dog catchers. There's like a whole story there, you know? It is. It feels like that's a headline I'd like to know more about it. Yeah. Yeah, what inspired the song and why were you at war with them, the taxpayers? Do I have information about that? Let's see. Did they give you any background? No background about it all. By the way, they are going on tour. They start their tour in a couple days in Minneapolis at the Underground. It's going to be doing a whole U.S. tour,
Starting point is 00:59:21 and then they're going to be supporting Pigeon Pit after that. Nice. Well, there you have it then. Yeah. Let's get Billing. Let's get the old Bill William William in here. Let's make stuff. Let's make stuff with real.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, I think that's. That'd be a great idea. There's still something wrong, isn't there, Bill? Oh, look it. Look how it is. It's old Bill Duran all the way up there in the Pacific Northwest, holding it all down for Punished Props.com. Bill, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:59:49 How the heck are you, man? Hello, we're doing pretty good up here. Yeah? Got a lot of fun stuff. Nothing wrong with that. I can tell you that. Well, it's good to have you here, man. Bill and I had a kind of off-air discussion
Starting point is 01:00:04 as he was watching Furiosa for the first. time and it's always so funny because I know how things are going to go when I talk to you because you're going to you have this eye for a gun or a cool weapon or a truck someone's in or a weird car mod and so immediately I'm getting these photos from Bill and I'm like yep this is how this is supposed to go it's all all inspiration man um but I'm glad you're glad you ended up seeing it that was super fun to kind of experience it through your eyes through the phone through text that was kind of fun yeah i feel like the people that make those movies remember that these are supposed to feel like legends told around a campfire yeah and they really did that i really felt it yeah with the
Starting point is 01:00:46 history man and the history woman from the uh from fury robe with all the writing all over the bodies i love that whole concept it's like well how are we going to keep history we're going to trust one dude to write it all on himself with tattooed style a tattoo it all over his body yeah and hope that in this wasteland the tattoos don't infect him immediately and kill him yeah it's amazing anyway uh it's good to have here man i'm uh anything else uh in the world of making stuff you want to share with us this this week sure i was curious uh if either of you have been to your local comic convention since the pandemic once if you've gone back yet yes yes i've been back to uh fan expo every year since awesome pandemic we went uh two years ago i guess it was last time we went ours is
Starting point is 01:01:32 is also called Fan Expo. Yeah. Or Fanx. They had to change it. Can't use Comical. Yeah. Yeah. So silly. It's dumb. Well, we've been doing it.
Starting point is 01:01:41 We've been going to a bunch as well. And we just had Emerald City Comic-Con here in Seattle. And I've really noticed a very different sort of vibe. They're doing things a lot different than they used to before the pandemic. And I was wondering if you guys felt like your local conventions were just a little different. like you like different offerings um yeah the focuses are different it used to be used to be the smattering of like make sure you check out william shattner on the center stage four and then right after that the entire cast of bsg is going to be up there and it was like a lot of focus on that stuff like
Starting point is 01:02:18 big celebrity keynotey things and it feels like now it's less of that and more on big booths um right exhibitors stuff like that if anything the only bummer i've noticed is it feels like like artist alley at least in ours just gets pushed further and further into the corner oh it's too bad
Starting point is 01:02:38 yeah it is that's too bad so these these conventions are run by big companies we have reed pop
Starting point is 01:02:45 they run Emerald City Comic Con they run C2E2 and a number of other large ones so I think you'll be
Starting point is 01:02:53 you will notice different companies trying stuff with their shows and Emerald City and Reed Pop I feel like they've been doing a pretty good job
Starting point is 01:03:03 I've definitely noticed some changes We got a new convention center the last couple of years So that kind of helps change things up a whole bunch But I've noticed that the shift seems to be changing Towards things you can do at the convention Things that you couldn't do at home That sort of thing More interactive events for attendees to be able to participate in
Starting point is 01:03:27 Of course there's still all the normal stuff you can still get your photo taken with uh celebrities there's an expo hall with stuff to buy that you absolutely don't need but really really want and we actually have an incredible artist alley it's it is massive it's act uh it's almost the entire second floor at the convention center which is kind of nuts that's great i would love that that's awesome oh it's really really cool uh but the panel programming seems like it's starting to get a little bit of a backseat and i have a theory i'm curious what you guys think about this sure you know how BlizzCon, you don't have to go.
Starting point is 01:04:03 You can just get the pass to watch everything at home. Well, every convention after the pandemic did that. They said, well, we can just film this, throw it online, and then people across the world can pay us just to watch the panels. So you don't have to go to watch the panels. Right. You can, yeah, and you even can watch them archived, like watch them later on, still pay for them.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Totally. And that, you know, for that, you can kind of go to the show, do the trade show part, see all the exhibitors, maybe get an autograph from somebody, and then go home and watch the panels. You basically describe what killed E3. E3 got killed by the fact that. And it wasn't even, it was already on the wall, the writing was on the wall. Nintendo's kind of the ones to blame, if you want to blame anybody.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And I don't even mean it in a negative way. It's just they saw the writing on the wall and went, you know, these directs are going to be the future of what we do. They stopped doing stage presentation. Sony and Microsoft followed. and then all the little sub ones started to drop off of that. And before you knew it, there was like no reason to have a massive E3 event that was centered around these stage deliveries.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And then the pandemic just freaking compounded it. It's just like, well, that's all we're going to do for the next couple years. And now it's just, that's how we do it. Cheaper. So I think that the response, especially from companies like Reap, are to look for more programming to have at your event
Starting point is 01:05:26 that requires people to be there, you know? So what's been really cool, I got a huge list here of stuff I saw in Emerald City this year. And I'm repeating this in case you haven't been to your local con in a while, I recommend taking a peek and seeing what they're offering because there might have some stuff there that you're really interested in. A bunch of our friends, the last couple of years at Emerald City, have been doing cosplay programming.
Starting point is 01:05:48 They have a whole room, a couple of rooms, just for cosplay, for cosplay repair, but also workshops. So they'll do a foam weapon workshop. You go there, they have all the materials and stuff, and you just follow along. And when you're done, you get to leave with the thing you made. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:06:04 That's a whole reason to go to that panel, for sure. Yeah. And they've gone bonkers, though. They're doing, like, LEDs and soldering and Dremel stuff. What else? They did an Arduino programming workshop for, it's crazy. And what really blew my mind, They've been running these panels, my friends, Chad over at Hoku Props in Beverly down in Creative Studios.
Starting point is 01:06:33 They've been running these panels. Well, this year, Reed Pop bought out their panels. These were paid, not panels, workshops. You know, it's read Pop bought them out and attendees could go to them for free, which is bonkers. Yeah, that is crazy. So not only, you just pay your cover price to get into the show, and then you could go do these, if you get, You know, they went fast. But if you get one, you could go do that for free, as opposed to paying more to go buy stuff at the convention hall or get a celebrity out.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I just thought that was so cool and I love seeing more and more of that at shows because it gets new people into it. Yeah, there's also, that's a really good point because there is some, there are creative ways these shows are finding to do something that's a little less than the traditional wait in line by a $40 ticket. at only the hardest core of core are going to be there to see Stanley or whoever. And coming up with other alternative ways to get more eyeballs and not lose money, you know, there's ways to make all this work for yourself.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I think it's really smart. And, you know, there's nothing, the one thing I don't want to see, as much as I'm, you know, I'm a big believer in the digital landscape makes presentations much easier, much less expensive. You know, if you're spending millions on a booth,
Starting point is 01:07:50 now suddenly you're doing videos for a pittance, compared to what you were spending. It makes perfect sense to me, and there's no stopping that wave. But efforts to make in-person event stuff still function is good. It's good for people to have that to be able to find it. And if it's more accessible, then why the hell not? You know? Yeah. And I really think they're doing that. So here's some more stuff that I saw that I thought was really fun. There were a couple of taverns. They turned some of the big panel rooms into taverns. One of them was an all-ages tavern. And it had a very dark moon. You know, the dark Moon Fair at Blisscon
Starting point is 01:08:24 like it's a darker room very very moody they made that and there was pin trading live music food there was a 21 and over tavern if you wanted to have a beer or something there were there's sing-alongs there's draw alongs I'm sure that's something Scott might
Starting point is 01:08:41 be interested in doing it's super fun yeah that's cool uh there was a whole section full of arcade machines and I've heard that at Sakura Khan in Seattle I think next month they have an entire floor of arcade machines
Starting point is 01:08:56 and I think it's the sort of thing you show up to the con you pay your badge to get in and I believe it's just open play you just get to go play with them all that's cool I was trying to get I would swing by everyone once in a while
Starting point is 01:09:08 because I was filming I filmed a video of cosplayers at the event this year I was trying to get a shot of someone playing DDR and a crazy costume I think that'd be pretty awesome I didn't catch any
Starting point is 01:09:18 but I think that'd be great that would be cool yeah There's puppet building and performing. There are tons of stuff. By the way, all of this stuff is great with kids. There's LARP, if you want to learn how to LARP and beat the crap out of each other with foam swords. It's all there.
Starting point is 01:09:34 So I just implore you to, if you haven't taken a peek at your local con, take a look and see what they have on offer. And if you are in a position where you have something to offer like a demo or a workshop, as they approach them. I think people will be really excited to come see whatever geeky hobby you have to show off.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah, figure out a way to make it, interactive with the audience so that so that people attend it and not just exactly yeah they end up leaving if you leave with something like my friend sophie did a panel or a workshop where they made glowing cattyers like they had to connect LED wires and batteries and everything but everyone left for the thing they could wear and it's just so awesome yeah that's great I love it great idea uh get out there everybody do your local bit you know That's right. Do it on the ground where it matters.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Sorry, go ahead. I'm sure, I think we'll talk before them, but Team is Vegas in a month, and I am pumped. I'm so pumped. I'm flying solo this year. Me, a buddy of mine will be meeting me there, so I'm going to have my friend Everett. Cool. And we're just going to paint the town red. I cannot wait to do it with you folks.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah, that's great, dude. I'm stoked to see it. It did be a blast. Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, prepare yourself for the fun of Taskeville this year. I'm putting you to the test. Yeah, I know. I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I've got to flex my mental capabilities here. Yeah. Yes. Did you hear. Did you, Brian, everyone, you've told everybody, but it's been public about the, I don't say it's public, but we're doing joint. Is that, is that public or no? It is.
Starting point is 01:11:09 It's public, but I'm not saying who's with who. You won't find out who you're with until, until you walked into that room. But yeah, because we have so many people, we got 10, 10, 10. cover a cover real 10 TMS guests and hosts that are going to be playing so I got a group of them into five pairs and uh that's great so there's a greater than zero chance that me and bill are together is of a point like there's a greater than zero chance that I'm with any of these people but it could happen bill you never know it's a hundred percent it's true yeah it's uh there's a greater than zero chance that whoever's my partner is going to have to wear a goofy costume so yeah oh shit bring Bring your own stink bag, just in case everybody you're going to need it. That's right, yeah, yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:11:55 But, yeah, no, it's, and we're, I've been working on the pairings, by the way, with Hammond's help. I've been working on the pairings, and we have not spent a small amount of time on this. There's a lot of thought that goes into, all right, what about these two people together? What kind of dynamic are they going to have? And so I think we're really happy with the pairs that we've got. Excellent. I'm stoked. And I'm excited to see.
Starting point is 01:12:21 you. Hey, anything you want to leave us with today? A little bonus link of a sort? Yes, a little recommendation. My buddy, Nate, he goes by Nate from the internet over on YouTube. He's building a giant Lego castle. The Lego bricks he's building, he's 3D printing
Starting point is 01:12:37 them. They are 20 times larger than a normal Lego brick. This project's going to take a while. He's just got the one video out. Oh, look at that. Big, big old bricks, dude. This one's going to be really fun. I'm going to try and find some way to collaborate with him on this.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Maybe make some Lego thing I can send him. Make a giant Lego separator. You know those orange tools you get in every box? So he can help take it apart. I love it. The giant crowbar. I always say the one thing I like as much or more than tiny things is overly sized things. That's right.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Look at the little bike. I love it so much. Yep. He has a big old mini fig head here. I was just looking at it. There it is right there. Look at this gold minifig head. Oh, that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Or whatever that's for, I don't even know. And look at his printers. His printers are back there just going, we, we, we, we're on all day. They're never going to stop. All right. Bill, always a pleasure. Have a fantastic time until we see you next time. And hold on.
Starting point is 01:13:39 We'll be the next time we talk to Bill in Vegas or will it be another time. I think we'll talk to him one more time in April before. All right. All right. Very nice. Have a good one, dude. We'll see you soon. Bill Duran, everybody.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Punish Props.com, in case I didn't say it. Here is Zilink. You have Zilink? Let me look at Zilink. I just gave it to the Tadple. I asked for it, but I'm also going to put it on quicktms. Dot L.A. Perfect. Excellent.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Wonderful. Because that's what I do. Okay. Claire says, Scott, you can get large mini fig. She said fog. Mini fig heads for storing blocks. Oh, I didn't know that. Like a lid and you'd put all your pieces in it.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Exactly. It's almost like your. Hannibal Lecter, and you're lifting the top of Ray Leota's head to fill it with six blocks. Oh, man. Six pips. Ray Liotta's frying brain. That's it for that.
Starting point is 01:14:34 One quick note here at the bottom of the show, we got a message from Bob Decker. He is Scooby Dad in the tad pool. He says, it's about daylight savings. Thanks again, daylight savings. I've got to get up in the upper morning. He says, I'm sorry. Supervised Crossing Guards, and it's not fun in the mornings when kids go to school and drivers are half asleep. He says the days last longer in the summer anyway, so just leave it on standard time.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Thanks, Bob Decker. Yeah, I agree. That's the one to leave it on. Leave it on standard, right? Yes. Yep. Totally agree. Why not do that?
Starting point is 01:15:10 And I know people are like, well, I want to be darker later in the summer. It is already naturally darker, to his point, or lighter, rather. Instead of it being 8.30 when the sun goes, down the summer will be 7.30 and that is just fine. Yeah. Yeah, hook us up. Let's do it. Come on, government. You're not doing any other thing good right now. Do that. Do one thing. Exactly. One thing
Starting point is 01:15:31 good. Give the rest of the people what they want. Yeah. Just give us one tiny thing. That's it for us. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all your needs. Don't forget if you're trying to contact us, the way to do it these days is voicecast. That's both voicemels and texts. Don't worry, though. If you're
Starting point is 01:15:51 sending it all the other ways or the old ways or the old line or any of that. I still get them. This will get red. It's just, you know, just converting everybody over. So your stuff's not getting lost, but we really do prefer the new thing. So use it and use it often. That's it for us. Brian, let's play a song and get the F out. Sounds good. Felix wrote in and said, Hey, Scott and Brian, my birthday was December 18th and I'm no longer Mr. No at all. He's 43 now. I know it passed, but better Nate than Lever. That's an inside joke. My dad and I shared. Please play this wonderful unique cover. It's too bad. It was a one-time
Starting point is 01:16:25 thing. Thanks. Is that better late than never or lever thing? Is that the I'm asking him, I guess? Is it the snake named Nate and the lever? I don't remember how the joke went. I may share this story. There is a joke.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Yeah, I know. That is the punchline of a joke. It's about a snake named Nate or something. Do you remember this? No. Ah. Okay. That's going to drive me nuts. head. Oh, but Drenched Wildfire says this was Scott's joke for like a decade ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago, and I haven't talked about it. It's a very long time, so I don't remember kind of how it went, but...
Starting point is 01:16:59 Oh, you'll have to find it. Yeah, very cool. So let's get to the song. This is from... So this comes from BBC's YouTube. No album has been released, but my God, I would pay a lot for an album full of these. A group called Orchestra Obsolete recorded a few songs for BBC music, and this was one of them. This is their cover of New Orders Blue Monday, but this is one of those that the song is great. You almost need the visuals to go along with it because they're so good, because they're playing like sawblades and weird old timey instruments and dulcimers and auto harps that they're wrapping on with mallets and stuff. It's really, really cool. Here is Blue Monday
Starting point is 01:17:43 by Orchestra Obsolete. I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I don't know I'm going to be able to I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 01:18:35 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going I'm And... ...and... ...and... ...to...
Starting point is 01:18:47 ...the... ...the... You're going to be able to be. Ah. How does it feel to treat me like you do? When you laid your hands upon me and told me who you are, I thought I was mistaken, I thought I heard your word, Tell me how do I feel?
Starting point is 01:20:16 Tell me now how do I feel? I thought it would have changed to leave me. When I walk down to the beach, tell me how does it feel when your heart grows cold? Hey there, sausage and biscuit, its onions, the cat here. Just passing a cracker barrel, as you guys were talking about Cracker Barrel, and wanted to chime in on the other guy who said about the Ignore A Moose. They actually, on the little, the game, they spell it, Ignore Moose, like a full-out-spelled moose.
Starting point is 01:21:48 It's supposed to be a witty. little play on words. So that's probably why his brother or whoever did not know what it said. So anyway, have a good one. See you. Those pants are made for froggin. If you know what I mean, I actually
Starting point is 01:22:04 don't. Frogpans.com. Come here, Pud. I hate you. Good boy. Pud. Pud. Come on, Pud. Imagine naming your kid freaking Pud. What a horrible name for your kid.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Yeah, it's not cool. Here, your name's Pud. And here's a coupon for therapy that you'll need when you're old enough. Yeah. There's no question that you're going to need it, kid. All right. We are to the stage of life and today's episode to do titles. That's the plan.
Starting point is 01:22:34 That's the plan. I am not in there yet. I'm still putting Bill's video into the thing. I could easily stop doing that. We have all the time in the world. We're good. Fertold in the sacred documents, says Matthew Sargent. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I had dinner with Z That's great Excellent That's fantastic Yes Very good Tilly Murphy
Starting point is 01:23:01 Server extraordinaire That's very good The convention Convention how convenient These are all related But they're all great on their own I love it All great on their own
Starting point is 01:23:10 Smoking or non-smoking drink I'm not the sparkly type Dr. Calhoun well down I'm not I'm not I don't think I am either Tiny things and oversized things with Bill You know when we were in high school
Starting point is 01:23:24 Everybody bedazzling things and all that That never I never understood it No gosh no Still don't get it Nope Do not still have my leather jean jacket That would have been Prime Target for bedazzling
Starting point is 01:23:38 I'm something I like You can have dried squid from Dr. Calhoun It's a nice one MGM fruit roll up Yeah It looked like it at first It looked like dried fruit Fruit by the foot.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Let's see. Here. Let's see. James is such a blunt. Mmm. Sausage blanket. Perfect. Soul serum.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Cereum. You know, that might be a good title because it's spelled soul. That actually. Soul serum. Yeah. Sounds like something you're putting your hair in the 70s. Scritch you some pearl jam. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Gross. Bur. Well, let's see. We're not doing tadpilly incest, Claire. Jeez. What'd that even come from? Right. We need to see.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Two more. College ruled lines. Or I guess two, yeah, now two more and a bill. Oh, you got a bill? Oh, you got a bill? Yeah, tiny and oversized things. Oh, shit. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:24:42 All right. I'll bet it smell. No, we're not going to do it. I'll bet it smells a little gay. No, probably not. The sphere, an OSHA violation in motion. There you go. How do you like gay ben gay?
Starting point is 01:24:55 That's fun. That's good. Let's do gay been gay. All right, that is 16. Let's do it. I think Solcerum, Jay, Funktastic, with the Soul Serum. And he called yesterday on the Monday show to remind me what the scissor thing meant. Oh, yes, I heard that, yes.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Thanks a lot, Jay. Two ladies really love each other a lot. And you just kept doing it You just kept I didn't understand it I was like what Two peace symbols Doing why is this
Starting point is 01:25:25 Is this mean war Is that what this means That's because you're two victory symbols There are two peace symbols Yeah Oh hilarious Just didn't get it It took forever
Starting point is 01:25:34 All right I probably if I'd have stopped And thought about it For a long time But you know You're on the air Coming up tomorrow on TMS The Scissor Sisters
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yeah On their way Finally One night on Okay, so let's see. Bill moves down and... Oh, interesting. What's that?
Starting point is 01:25:57 Apple Music is now allowing DJ, the software that I used to record Coverville and, really just Coverville, is now allowing DJ to use Apple Music and Apple Music subscription. So I might, I know I can do this legally, but I might be able to do shows without having to purchase everything that I play. That's great, though.
Starting point is 01:26:20 If you get in a pinch or whatever, that's awesome. Yeah, exactly. Because a lot of times I'll have the song, but I bought it at a time when it was an M4P and I can't play it in the software. It won't let me play M4P. But I could then just say, oh, well, I'll pull up the Apple Music alternative. I've still purchased the song. You own the song, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yeah, that'll keep you in good graces with your ASCAP people and all that. Exactly, yes. That's great. All right, I think we're ready to read this. It's a you read. It's a me. So here we go in three, two, one. They say nothing makes a sound in space.
Starting point is 01:26:58 If that's true, then can you explain the loud farts of Jupiter? No? Well, then that probably means you need to support this show at patreon.com slash TMS today. Coming up on the morning stream, foretold in the sacred documents. Brian had dinner with Z. Killian Murphy, server extraordinaire. The convention convention, how convenient. Smoking or non-smoking drink.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I'm not the sparkly type. You can have my dried squid. MGM fruit roll-up. James is such a blunt. Sausage blanket. Squirt you some pearl jam. College ruled lines. Gay ben gay.
Starting point is 01:27:40 The sphere, an OSHA violation in motion. Tiny things and oversized things with Bill and more on this episode of the morning stream. Excellent work. Cool. Beautiful. Truly. Wow. I'm eating salad today, Scott.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Holy shit. Oh, because the last night. Yeah, it makes sense. Last night, yeah. It was, uh, oh, yeah, I didn't even talk about dessert. It was a, you have to push them oysters through, man. I only have two or three, three. I, I don't know why I'm so hard on.
Starting point is 01:28:14 oysters. I know they're, they're beloved by so many people. They just made me so sick once that I can't even look at them. How do you feel about, oh really? So even deep fried ones you couldn't do I mean, I could, I could maybe do that. I might be able to do that because they'd been cooked and I'd feel better about it. But the slurpy ones, yeah, slurpy out of a shell, not doing. I got so sick once in Mississippi, real legit oysters on the coast, there at a place that was known for their oysters, and I got the worst food poisoning from it. It was so bad. Oh, dessert. So Tina had a butter. So Tina had a butter. cake with a scoop of vanilla ice cream, and I had peanut butter pie, which was like a
Starting point is 01:28:49 tall cylinder, like an Amazon Echo Model 2 of a peanut butter pie covered with a layer of ganache, chocolate ganache. Dude. That sounds amazing. And I ate six bites of it and said, that's as much as I can do, but it was so freaking good. You tell me there's peanut butter in your dessert, and I don't even care what it is.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I'll eat it. Yeah. I don't know what's going on with that, but I love it. Oh, I should share, although today, I have the skim show today at noon. Kim and I'll talk about this weird thing she learned how to make that is peanut butter blended with cottage cheese. It is so good for, I can't figure out why it's so good.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I hate cottage cheese. I hate it. Like blender, blender blended? Blender blended, I believe. Maybe she whips it. I can't remember now. We'll talk about it on the show. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:29:50 But it's so freaking good. It's like high protein really good for you. That's amazing. All right. I'm going to hold up a wookie. I'll let the wookie win. I'm going to hold up here. I'm going to hold up this sparkly win notebook.
Starting point is 01:30:07 All right, here we go. I pointed at the wiki. Wookie, wiki, wiki. Wiki, let the wiki win. Let the wiki win. Yeah, cool. All right, well, enjoy that. I don't know what I'm eating.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I have no idea. You know what? I got a $25 gift certificate to, is it mics or maybe firehouse? Some one of these sandwich places. Does that sound good right now? Good sandwich. That sounds so good.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Like all soaking the stuff and everything. Yeah. I might do that. I don't know, I'll let you know, Brian, because you can't do it. You've got to do the salad. I understand. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:30:52 I am going to the gym later. So whatever I do now, I'm sure I can justify it because I'll be on the do. Oh, I need to, yeah, I need to treadmill. It's Tuesday. I need to treadmill today. I went yesterday. I was hoping for stories. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:31:02 You go to the gym at 2 p.m. Nobody there. I'll bet. And you know what? It's going to be 70 degrees today. I'm going out on the bike. Heck with the treadmill. I'm going to be out.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Oh yeah. Today's like, I think we're getting a high 68. It's insanely warm today. It's so stupid. I think I'll walk to the gym, do the gym at a time where no one's at the gym. It's amazing. There you go. Good. That guy with his stupid strap is like pants strap that he wouldn't pull up. That guy, he won't be there. It'll be great. See you soon.

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