The Morning Stream - TMS 2811: Justifiable Ejection

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

Energiza, It'll Surprizya, Bruce. You Get NO Waint, NO Bolth & NO Lt Yar! (v) I Need The Right IVeeeeeeeeeeee. Lysdexics Of The. World: Untie! Also, I'm Fat. Polly Wants A Ciggie. The Juggage of P...eeage. More of a wagon than a streak. I Don't Give Two Figs About Wasps. Trailing Zuckerberg. Better Living Through Chemistry. Smart kids hide in the most disgusting places. My Name is... Max? Fewer Nessman. The Vegas Nerve w Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One day, we will all live on Mars. And when that happens, it will be much harder to support TMS. So do it now. By signing up at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, energize you. It'll surprise you, Bruce. You'll get no waint, no both, and no lieutenant y'ar. I need the right IV.
Starting point is 00:00:22 List dexics of the world, untie. Also, I'm fat. Polly wants a siggy? The jugge of peage. More of a wagon. a streak. I don't give two figs about wasks. Trailing Zuckerberg. A's living through chemistry. Smart kids hide in the most disgusting places. My name is Max. Fewer Nessman. The Vegas Nerve with Wendy. And more on this episode of the morning
Starting point is 00:00:45 stream. Keep your eyes open after dark. Rattlesnakes like to move when the sun's down and the ground's still warm. This is about the jugs of pee. The Morning Stream. F*** off, Hairball. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. That's short for the morning stream. Wait, the other way around?
Starting point is 00:01:16 No, that's, yeah, that's short for the morning stream. It's not the other way around. The morning stream would be long for TMS, right? That is right. Exactly. Yeah. Don't want to mix those up. You know why?
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's because I did Turner Movie Classic backwards and now everything's sound wrong. everything sounds wrong there you go uh hey everybody welcome to the thursday april 17th 2025 edition of the morning stream i'm scott johnson that's brian abit good morning hello and how are you i'm all right you know busy a lot going on i do have a good mom update i should tell everybody oh yes please do for once a positive one because it feels like we've had nothing but like negative lately like a lot of backtracking and not a lot of progress and all that one step forward two steps back kind of stuff yeah and as it turns out and maybe dr tull Holbert or someone else who's familiar with such things,
Starting point is 00:02:02 and we've got any nurses in our listening audience, that sort of thing. As it turns out, IVs are important, but the right kinds of IVs are even more important. The right stuff in the IV? Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:02:17 tailoring the IV to the patient, perhaps is a wise move in terms of, like, what do they need? What are they lacking? What is the, what kind of, you know, what level of dehydration combined with,
Starting point is 00:02:28 like, nutrition and all these issues? What? For a person in their, you know, octogenarian years, what is the combo? Well, it turns out the combo we were doing up until the weekend was not a good one. She wasn't eating. She was grumpy. She even said something to a nurse where she said, I don't even know if I want to wake up tomorrow, like stuff like this. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Yeah. And we're like, man, is this just the way it is? Are we just going downhill this fast? And then her doctor goes, you know, I don't know. I don't know. This IV, something's weird. So they give her this. I. I.V. Complete fricking turnaround. She's talking. She's eating full meals, breakfast, lunch, dinner. She walked yesterday another, I don't know, how many feet. Like progress from the minute that IV took hold. Progress across the board. Cognitive function, physicality. Her shakes her way down. She's sleeping less. The pains less. Like, all of it's better with the freaking IV. and I'm so annoyed. We could have used your little combo about a month ago. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I mean, everybody, you know, everybody's physiology is different. They, you know, it maybe takes a couple tries to find the one that's going to work best for people. And, hey, just be glad you found it. Yeah, I am glad we found it. I'm not. And nobody's like, it's not like anybody was, like, bad at this. They tried all sorts of things. So I don't really blame them, but I'm just annoyed that it took this long because she was pretty miserable for.
Starting point is 00:03:59 like they should have tried this sooner it sounds like for sure yeah they should have figured it out a lot sooner than they did but still yeah uh yeah it's good though so she's uh that's great yeah good so she's so more progress and as far as like working better with pt and and eating and all that all of it all her stuff is is a notch or two better and it's you know still there's a long track here if she's gonna you know she's going to go for it but her motivation is up was the main thing we were missing was her motivation. And it turns out, chemically, it's really important to have all the right shit in your brain to be motivated. Imagine that, right? Weird, right? So, yeah, so that's all good. And it also just gives me a little bit of relief because I'm, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:41 every day we get closer to Vegas is a day I'm more and more nervous that I'll be there and then get the news. And something will happen. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want that. I want that so not to happen for me and my two sisters who are also going to be there. It's like half the family, half the family, the local family will be in Las Vegas for TMS Vegas, and that's just weird. So now that she's showing this kind of progress and the doctors are really happy with it and all that, this gives me big relief. I think she's going to be okay for that period. Yeah, as long as, like, you know, that's what you're open for.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Keep progressing up so that when we go to Vegas, you can put that stuff. It'll still be in your mind, but it'll be in the back of your mind and you won't have to worry about it. Yep. That's the goal. All right. It also got me in the mood to watch Fear. road just kidding that's not why um i doesn't take anything really to give me a clicker do you have a clicker or something that you uh i probably should where's our thing you should i'm curious yeah
Starting point is 00:05:38 there you go zero days i'm just curious about how many uh how many times you think you might have seen that so i i i'm at i think i'm i'm accurate right now at 23 i think that's the total uh holy cow i might be one off you know lost track or something but uh 23 for that 6 for Furiosa I you know it's not really a streak I'll just I just sort of know the number
Starting point is 00:06:03 you can't really exactly it doesn't quite fit into the streak levels because anytime you watch it is not really a streak it's a just an extension of that number
Starting point is 00:06:15 yeah you're just still doing it I guess if I yeah because there's nothing to fall off of it you either see it more times or you don't there's no right I broke my streak
Starting point is 00:06:24 by not seeing it again Right, exactly, yes. Unless it's like a, nope, I'm going to watch it every day without fail, then you can do it as a streak. Yeah, I ain't doing that. Oh, God. Yeah, no. That leads to hate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Hate leads to anger. Anger leads to the dark side. Anger leads to never watching George Miller movies ever again. So I'm not going to do that. I don't even know if I've seen, I mean, I think the movie that I've seen the most in my life would be the original Star Wars, a new hope. Um, episode four nerds. Sure. Um, uh, and I don't think I've even seen that 23 times.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I've probably, I'm with you. I've probably seen it. Probably close though, 20. Because they were, there were days. Late teens, early 20s, something like that in the numbers. Yeah. There was a theater. It's not even a theater anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I don't even know. I think it's a church now on, uh, Wadsworth, just north of Colfax. Um, two or three screen theater. and my grandmother, my Hungarian grandmother, would drop me off there in the morning with a bag full of sandwiches and chips or a couple sandwiches and chips in there. And I actually know it's my uncle would also go.
Starting point is 00:07:39 He and I would go, watch the first screening, pull out the backgammon table between airings of the film, and then watch the second screening and then play some more backgammon and then watch the third screen. Nothing wrong with this, man. That sounds like that. Yeah, I know. It's just funny that they never even kicked us out.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Like, you do that in a theater today and they'll go tell their manager, he'll be in there in minutes, you'll be out of there. There's no way you're sticking around soon. You might get through one. You might get through a showing and then they'll go, that's weird, that guy won't leave. And then the next showing, and then if you're still there, they're probably going to raise alarms.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I'll bet you don't even make it through the to the second showing. I'll bet that somebody comes and says, sir, we're going to have to ask you to leave you. You paid for one ticket. You saw your movie. We need you to go. And they won't let you stick around for the next show. Well, definitely not Alamo.
Starting point is 00:08:31 They're not going to do it ever. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I think with theaters now that have specific seat tickets, you're going to be in somebody's paid seat that, you know, then they really have a means to eject you and say, hey, sir, somebody paid for the seat for the next show and you can't be here. That's true. I guess you could, you know, if you're a smart kid, you could,
Starting point is 00:08:51 I wonder how this would go. you could hide under go to go to the worst parts of the theater like upper left way up there nobody ever wants that seat and you do it during the day where there's not a lot of traffic and there aren't sold out tickets and then when the thing's over
Starting point is 00:09:06 you just kind of tuck under there get a little pen light read a book whatever I can't think of a more disgusting place to hide up in the uncleaned the avoided parts of a movie theater but I mean you can easily just go to the bathroom right like just go to the bathroom while they clean the theater
Starting point is 00:09:23 hang out in the lobby meander like look at the movie posters like you're waiting for your next movie to start and then when it starts you go back in you see where people are sitting you say oh there's an empty batch of seats over here in the corner and then uh and then just watch your second screen if you were going to do it today that's how you would do it yep you're absolutely right and i want to appreciate i just want to throw a little shout out to brainbo bright aka desire who says or guess deseray aka rainbow bright getting everything backwards today it's all dyslexia day for me. Um, she mentioned that it's a 10 year anniversary. Uh, it's actually next month. It's in April, but it will be the exact 10 year anniversary of Fury Road. So that's exciting. That's
Starting point is 00:10:03 exciting stuff. I may have to celebrate. I might have to. I don't know. Fury Road tree and give Fury Road presents. I don't know what I'll do. You know what? Maybe just paint my forehead black and does Hallmark have a, a card happy Fury Road anniversary, Fury Rodeversary? I don't know. Maybe. Uh, I might make my own. But I also might might go splurge. I don't know. I can't decide if I want to do this. They're too expensive. But on Etsy, there's a million Etsy creators who've made these. But replicas of Furiosa steering wheel that she locks into the war rig. I want one of those so bad. The one from Fury Road is the one I'm talking about. I want one of those so freaking bad. And to have Bill
Starting point is 00:10:44 do it, it'd be a huge expensive thing. So I'm not going to do that. This would be an easy enough project for you. You could go to a junkyard and get a steering wheel. then mod it to look like the the Fury Road one. You know what? That's not bad. I might need to print the, I probably have to print what's in the middle though because it's like a custom thing. Yeah, let me know what you want 3D printed. I'm your man.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Okay. You know what? Not a bad idea. 2025 might have another project for me. There you go. Another good thing to keep your mind off of the dumpster fire that's going on elsewhere. That's right. I'm very excited about the prospect of at least a couple of those kinds of projects this year. The arcade machine thing I want to do and finish up. And that steering wheel would be perfect distractions when I'm caught up with anything else,
Starting point is 00:11:34 which never happens. Who am I kidding? But let's say I'm caught up with everything else. I can go, all right, don't have to scroll on my phone. I don't need to think about the day's deal. I can go do this thing over here. And then when there's a protest, I can go to the protest. I can still participate in my local.
Starting point is 00:11:51 deal but i'm not like wallowing you know all right exactly it's exciting stuff keeping your mind occupied with fun fun other things that's right um which we all should be doing occupy yourselves but also help people that occupy but help uh Brian to see oh go ahead um let's see here I'm wondering if somebody um figured out like which steering wheel which car's steering wheel is most like a good best starting point for a oh yeah because there's a chance that one she has is based on an actual car yeah
Starting point is 00:12:29 right yeah or truck that might be that's going to be too big a search for that I can do during the show so I'll let you we're going to figure it out and we're going to I'm going to make this thing it's going to happen uh all right well back to the point so Matt wrote in or called in
Starting point is 00:12:44 about Fury Road and a theory he has that's the reason I brought this whole thing up but down a bit of a path but anyway Because of Matt, I wanted to play this, and it's a theory I've heard before and I have an answer for it. So here we go. Hey, Scott, I'm Brian. This is Matt from Philly. And I have a question for you, Scott.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Apologies if this has been brought up before. And really sorry to everyone else for bringing this up at all. So I rewatched Fury Road last night for the first time in years. And once again, I found myself going, that's not Max. Have you heard about the theory that Tom Hardy is actually the feral child? from the second movie and not the actual Max played by Mel Gibson. Curious to know if you support this idea or think it has any merit. Every time I watch Fury Road, I'm convinced that that's not Max.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Also, just out of curiosity, is there anything you don't like about Fury Road, Scott? Any little detail or something? Well, that's all I wanted to ask. Oh, one more thing. Um, also, have either of you, uh, ever seen Breitburn, James Guns' is, uh, hard-ar Superman movie? If so, what did you think of it? Personally, it's in, uh, it's one of my favorite James Gunn movies, even though it's not entirely his movie. His name is still all over it.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Um, yeah, that's all. Thanks, guys. Love the show. Bye. I love how chilly is at the end there. I know, I know. Maybe get one more espresso. Yeah, one more injection.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Just another ounce or so. But Brian, let's answer that last question first. I know he produced that movie. I don't think he directed it. I've never seen it. Yeah, I haven't either. I remember hearing about it, and it was pretty... The idea was like, what if somebody had superpowers but became basically just like the worst human,
Starting point is 00:14:38 just destroyed everything and tore people to pieces and all that, which sounds a little depressing, but yeah. now he didn't um so james gunn produced it it was written by brian gunn and mark gunn and it was directed by david yarovisk yarovysk yorovski but um yeah i mean james gun produced it yeah i've never seen this and i think i'd like to see it we could film sack something like that probably we could film sack it yeah it'd be all right thanks for the suggestion well back to your a furio thing so there is a longstanding theory that max rockintowsky Rock and Tansky, sorry, as represented in Fury Road is actually the Farrell Kid from Thunderdome, or not Thunderdome, from Road Warrior. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And here's what it's based on partly. At one point, Max gives the Farrell Kid this wind-up music box. Do you remember that scene? Yeah, totally do. It's very similar to the one. It loves it. Yeah, yeah. It gets way into it.
Starting point is 00:15:40 It says part of the theory is that it's very similar to Tom Harrow. Hardy's Max and the possession that's found in one of more at one point Morton Joe's wives or one of them the blonde one, I think, of the really blonde one, pokes fun about it or teases about it or plays a little bit of it or something. So there's a theory that that's the same music box. There's another one where Hardy's Max doesn't identify himself until the very end of the movie. So it's like he's forced into saying, you know, my name is Max and it feels a little off that he did at that. Why did he take so long to admit what his name was? And then the other ideas that Max is, for the majority of the movie anyway, kind of dumb, he's kind of grunty,
Starting point is 00:16:18 doesn't really say much, which is like the Farrell Kid. Yeah, go ahead. And one more part to that, and I could totally be remembering this incorrectly, but Road Warrior begins and ends with narration, and the ending narration, I think, is from the grown-up Farrell Kid, right? Or no? The, yes, the Farrell kid is talking in the end of Road Warrior. Great, great, really important that you brought that up because, turns out, somebody in an interview sat down with George Miller and asked him if this theory had any legs. And here's what he said, and I will not try to invoke his accent. Sorry, Phil or anyone else. And if Brian did it, it would be, how would you, however Brian does his awesome accent.
Starting point is 00:17:07 now it's the energizer it'll surprise you yeah exactly we're not going to go there so it says here's what he says he says quote that's great but no unfortunately that is a great idea but it is not true only because at the end of Mad Max 2 it turns out the narrator Brian just mentioned oh look at that see is the feral kid as an old man and he says he only lives now in my memories um so he says that but this is this is why i think that this is an important thing and he goes on
Starting point is 00:17:41 to explain this but this is these are in my words the beauty of the mad max movies all of them from day from minute one until the end of furiosa they are all told as apocryphal handed down through time stories like you would hear around a fire before we started keeping history in human in the human race the history man and the history woman that you see in furious and in Fury Road, but they've got the tattoos and the writing all over them. And his staff is covered in little sheets of paper with little bits of writing. He knows everything. And at one point, Dementis, Chris Hemsworth says, history man, something, I can't remember how he barks it out.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But he basically wants a definition of tears, human tears. And the history man goes, human tears, mostly made of this, saline, this and that. And he's like repeats what he knows. And those are the guys and women and men who pass. this information down. And so the stories are meant to be taken that way as apocryphal legend, right? Mythology and legend inserted in there. Kind of like how the ultimate demise of Dementus, the history man claims that Furiosa herself whispered the truth to him. But we don't actually know if that was his fate because it's all hearsay and pass down information.
Starting point is 00:19:00 That's part of the fun of that world. So basically he and his answer went into all that. I just didn't want to read a huge paragraph. But he basically explains it's like, you know, you, everybody wants to apply timelines and they want to say, well, no, this is connected to this. And that's a natural human thing to do. But these movies and these stories of these characters are meant to be like Achilles, for example. We don't think of Achilles is just a dude. We think of him as the strongest ever, but he had the ankle thing.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Right, exactly. The heel, you know, like we blow these stories up for a reason. season, it's a little like pro wrestling. The Greek legends, the Bible, all these things have their formats. Exactly. So that stuff is all there. It's all meant to be told that way. And when you accept that into your hearts, faithful fury rotors like me,
Starting point is 00:19:54 it all makes it, it's all better because you're like, I love, I love that we don't really know. I mean, obviously, it's not historical anyway, so there's nothing to know. But I love this feeling of like, that might be right, that might be wrong. That could be told in a way, especially the narration bits, the way they break up Furiosa. They do a really good job of saying things like, you know, she's the fifth writer of the apocalypse. Well, what does that evoke? Non-human, almost superhuman, otherworldly capabilities. But really, she just pissed him on revenge.
Starting point is 00:20:27 So it's like that. And I love it. And what's great about that is that it lends itself. to fully, you know, infinite possibilities for storytelling because you don't have a narrow lane that you have to stay in for your future Mad Mac stories or stories in that world. Right. So you have like, you have like individual movie canon, but the world is apocryphal. And the canon only happens with what you're shown.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And Infuriosa, they even play with that by saying, maybe she did this. maybe she did that or maybe he's part of the thing and I want to spoil it. You know, like they kind of play with that there in that movie more, but, you know, in Fury Road, we're presented with just so much imagery that is, you want to interpret, right? You want to go so far like, well, wait, so Gastown was in a refinery during the, during regular times and what happened and why is it out there in the middle? Don't just don't think about it too hard. Like, it's fun to build that world, but it is meant to be.
Starting point is 00:21:33 legendary. It is meant to be mythological and that's the point of it. So, anyway, I get all excited about this shit. Yeah, no, I love it. That's great. Les called back. He had to correct his crappy sounding phone. That that call that we got that sounded
Starting point is 00:21:49 like you just been boarded on a spaceship. Yeah, it was pretty bad. But we're going to find out if it's better. Here it goes. Hey, Scott and Brian. It's your pal, Les Nessman, now calling on a iPhone 15 microphone and looking to see if this is any better and to be honest i have no recollection of what i was calling you guys about so unfortunately it would
Starting point is 00:22:10 have been great but anyway so yeah you can now tell me which of the two sounded better hopefully they both sound about the same talk to you later sound way better oh yeah like night and day difference we can hear your words and it doesn't sound like uh uh so i wonder you know it easily could have just been something with that tool we're using just having some sort of one weird anomaly didn't sync up the right synapses in the software or whatever and it just recorded it badly and he you know what he posted was good there's no there's no way to to listen to like after you record a message you can't say oh let me look and listen to that back before i submit it to scott no there's not well actually i don't know i've never submitted one to the to myself i wonder
Starting point is 00:22:56 if it does it might uh let's see if i'll open it right now and find out this is great there's a good technical experience. So we go to morning stream and we go, okay, so I go, oh, can I view it the public? Okay, here's what the public sees. We'll go ahead and record something. Allow.
Starting point is 00:23:16 All right, here we go. Hi. Calhoun confirms, yes. Oh, it does. Calhoun can play it back. You played it back, Calhoun? Yes, you can listen to it after you record it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Here it is. I'll play it. All right, here we go. Hi. Yeah. Oh, it does. Calhoun didn't hear you. because I'm on a different mind.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Sure, of course. Yeah, that's cool. Once you close that page, you can't go back and listen to ones you've submitted probably. No, once you submit them, they're out. They're gone. They're to me and done. So they're out of your hands once you submit it. That is correct. So my guess is one-off weirdness or his other phone sucked or whatever he was using.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He didn't actually say what he was using before. So who knows what he was using, but wouldn't much to. Well, good. Well, I'm glad we can hear him now. that's the bottom line is finally we can hear less the way we the way less was intended to be heard i wish we'd see him at Vegas again i know it's hard because he's in croc but yeah he was he was yeah it's all right don't feel bad uh less nestman he'll call himself now probably i love it because ness kept coming across in the translation or less rather as nes yesterday
Starting point is 00:24:23 in the in the transcribe because there's a transcribe of what people saying because it was so garbled and hard to hear, it thought he was calling himself a nest the entire time. So you can be less nestman. I think that's great. If you want, you can, yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:36 be whatever you want. Be what you want to be. All right. Then I got this. This is a text from Thomas. And Thomas, not Tom Merritt, different Thomas.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Sure. Talking about wasps. And here's what he said. Since you talked about wasps and figs, you've probably heard a lot about them. So here's one more. Why not let an Australian explain it?
Starting point is 00:24:56 So I'm going to play a little clip of the video clip. me. So we're going to hear an Australian explain, and this makes sense to me, and also cleared up a couple of questions I had about common figs like you buy at the store. All right? Yeah. So here we go. This is a common fig. And unlike these beautiful wild figs that we have here in Australia, the common fig is growing in glasshouses all around the world, and it doesn't rely on the wasp to pollinate it. All right, so no wasp involved. If you're getting crunch, it's seeds. That's it. That's it. Good. Good. Oh, it makes me feel better.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You know what, me too. And you know that they're not using, for fig Newton's, there's no way they're using fancy figs with real was. No, no, they're going to use the cheapest ass figs that they can grow. Yeah, they're barely figs, I'll bet. It's mostly sugar and goo for all I know. Yeah, I'm a big fan. I don't do the Nabisco Fig Newton's.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I really like Nature's Bakery Fig Newton. They gave those to us a couple of years back at the MS-150. and since then I've that's what I get like that's the only thing I'll get These right here So many great flavors
Starting point is 00:26:03 Those are the ones man Yeah Whole wheat fig bars They look good for you They're so freaking good Yeah Is that a blueberry one over there That is a blueberry one
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah blueberry raspberry raspberry apple They have traditional fig They've got pumpkin spice In the appropriate time of year They've got apricot It's really good How many of these You get for seven bucks
Starting point is 00:26:24 It's not just one I assume um no you get like a box of eight i think let's see they don't say they have if you like join their um they have like a country perks yeah if you join that then you get this stuff they they like send you all sorts of deals and it's like hey there's a you know get a get a box of get a case of 12 boxes of any flavors you want for 50 bucks or 40 bucks or something you know what i love about these guys they have the share it just about with anybody you want to subscribe Great. You want to Instagram. Great. You want to Facebook. Great. You want to do Pinterest. Great. Notice there's no X here. Yeah. They're getting good. They made a decision and they kept it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yep. We're not, we're not going to kowtow to that garbogio site. Exactly. I hate it over there. It's so bad. I like you too. I've not even launched X slash Twitter in, ex formerly known as Twitter in forever. Yeah, I have no need to. Real quick here, if you want to be like Thomas, you want to be like Les or Ness, depending on when he calls. And you want to be like Matt. All three of these guys use this new thing. And we love it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 It's not new anymore, really. It's voicecast. Dot app slash TMS. Use it at your leisure. Both text and voicemail is accepted. And like Brian and I discovered today, and thanks to the chat, everybody who confirmed it, you can't? You can't check your thing before you send it? Listen back.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. Voice. You can get them at Costco, can you? Says Oz. All right. I have to go check that. out. I may grab a box. Actually, we're doing a Costco run tomorrow for stuff for Easter, so I think we may do that. Oh, cool. All right, Brian, let's do some mother effing news. It's time for the
Starting point is 00:28:09 mother effing news brought to you by. Brought to you by Coverville today featuring the music of Pete Shelley. Does that name not sound familiar to you? Probably doesn't, but the band he was a part of was fronted. It probably does. sound familiar to you. The Buzzcocks and their biggest hit ever fallen in love with someone you shouldn't have ever falling in love with someone ever falling in love
Starting point is 00:28:35 with someone. Anyway, you've heard it a million times. He passed away back in 2018. He would have been 70 and we're going to celebrate the music of Pete Shelley with covers of and by the Buzzcocks while I play some
Starting point is 00:28:51 Marvel Snap, some Infinity Ultron from what if. Oh, nice. It just seems crazy to me that there are people in the buzzcocks that should be 70. I know, because yeah, like, it's kind of like them and the sex
Starting point is 00:29:06 pistols. He kind of feel like, that these guys are never going to grow old. And then you see an older picture of John Light, and it's like, wow. It's really weird. Punk feels like one of those things that you should, you lock yourself into a look, a hyperbaric chamber, and
Starting point is 00:29:22 you always look like that forever. Yeah, it's like that the unfortunate 27 club or whatever it is, the people that all died at 27. Yeah. The artists and, you know, musicians and stuff, in a way, they did that. They locked themselves into it. Well, that's true. You know? Like, you're never going to.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Great. We always have a look that we will visualize when somebody says, Kurt Cobain. We will never see an old gray fat Kurt Cobain. Nope. Yeah, you'll never see, who am I thinking of? Jim Morrison, old gray fat, Jim Morrison. Yeah. Why can't I think of the guitarist? What's wrong with me? Greatest guitarist of all time by many people's opinions.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Oh. Stevie Yvonne. 60s guy, huge deal. Why can't I think of it? Jimmy Hendrix. Jay! Oh, Jimmy Hendrix. Sure. Okay. Yeah. It's wrong with me. Him and I'm not going to try to remember her name now. Janice Joplin? Yes. Another 27 clubber. right there's so many seven there's so many of those 27ers it's so weird too many of them were drug drug problems and stuff yeah uh anyway let's get to this story here silicon valley crosswalk
Starting point is 00:30:35 somebody hacked the buttons to imitate zuck and uh you know zuckerberg mark zuckerberg and elon musk voices as you walked through them i think we have audio of this but i'll i'll read this bit first crosswork buttons uh crosswalk buttons rather uh throughout the mid-peninsula area have been hacked, triggering voices that imitate heck. Heck, tech moguls like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk when pressed. A video recorded at the Redwood City, Menio Park, in Palo Alto showed various crosswalk locations where audio of these types are being played. In one video, taken Saturday morning at an intersection, it says, here a voice claiming to be Zuckerberg says, it's normal to feel uncomfortable or even violated as we forcefully insert AI into every
Starting point is 00:31:21 facet of your consciousness experience, your conscious experience. And I want to assure you, you don't need to worry, because there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. Anyway, I think this is it right here. I may have just repeated the one we're going to play, but let's just hear it. Okay, let's hear it. Wait. Hi, this is Mark Zuckerberg, but real ones call me the Zuck. You know, it's normal to feel uncomfortable or even violated as we forcefully insert AI into every, every facet of your conscious experience. And I just want to assure you, sure you, you don't need to worry because there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. Anyway, see ya.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I mean, ironically, that's an AI voice, ironically. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. And here's the sad part, because it's right after the walk, right? So you're walking away from that and you're going to miss a lot of it because you're walking, you're crossing the street and not hearing it. Or was it the wait? Did it say wait or walk?
Starting point is 00:32:18 It said wait, but I don't know. Oh, okay. So it's the wait. Yeah, I just don't know how long the way it is, so there's still maybe kind of trailing Zuckerberg as you walk away. Really weird, though. Like, obviously people are, you know, it's a little bit of not activism, what do you call it? I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 A little social engineering resistance, I don't know. And they do. You know what? The truth is they are cramming AI into everything because they think that's the future of all the money to be made. Maybe they're right. I don't know. I'm not here to say one way or the other. Kevin says that the Seattle one does Jeff Bezos's.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Somebody hacked the Seattle one to do Bezos's voice. Oh, I want to hear that one. Does he laugh like horribly? You might, yeah. Did I say wait or wait earlier, chat? Oh, you might have said. I think you said wait. I think I said wait.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I've been working on that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah, I don't say wait. I don't say both. I say both. Or excuse me, I say both instead of both.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I've been working on it. I've been working on it. that's good you say it's funny because you've said the other one for so long that you had you you second guessed yourself when you said both wait is that the right way or the wrong way i had to do yeah i had to do that with vietnamese for a long time because i used when i was a kid i would say vietnamese yeah and so even now i'll say vietnamese and i've kind of slow down there because i'm like wait did i yeah no that's right i have to remind myself that it's right all those people who grew up saying nuclear yeah my dad did that he probably had a hard time with it um all right
Starting point is 00:33:50 look at this here uh connecticut you know the city of the fine state of connecticut i do i know it very well uh dave letterman still lives there i believe i think that's where his houses anyway my dad used to live there oh that's right before i went to wait went connecticut then texas then vermont the the order was uh denver connecticut kentucky houston vermont oh connect i forgot about Kentucky. Canucky, I almost said. Connecticut. Oh, Lord. Anyway, Connecticut, firefighters rescued a dog stranded on a roof.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Why am I telling this story? Because it seems like such a hometown only in the local paper kind of thing. Love it. Because it's nice. Okay. Yeah, it is nice. Yeah, we like hearing these like, oh, there's a dog on the roof and the firefighters got it down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It can't all be somebody's heart was stolen in the middle of the night and put on ice and taken to Mexico or something. I've got to have some... Women trades foster child for chimpanzee. It can't be that every day, people. No, we need something nice. So here's this one. Firefighters rescued an adventurous dog. They assume, I guess he's adventurous. From the roof of this home, firefighters in Connecticut came to rescue this darling small dog that found itself stranded atop the roof. Again, repeating the same thing twice in a different
Starting point is 00:35:08 sentence. Well done, article. Getting your minimums. hitting your minimums there. Sure. The Hartford Fire Department responded to a residence after they received reports of a dog on a roof. Third sentence, basically the same sentence. Same thing, yep. Upon arrival, Cruz discovered that the dog had apparently climbed. Okay, now we're getting to some new information.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Now we get the how. Excellent. We wasted so much time on the what. It took us three sentences to get to the how. Exactly. Climed up out of an attic and jumped up onto the main roof and firefighters arrived. The puppy was perched near the peak of the home using a bucket truck. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:35:40 that's uh one of those buckets on a stick usually like somebody clipping high branches usually see them in one of those oh yeah yeah okay it's like a crane but with a thing you can stand in it looks like a thing that a man can stand in yes that's right i've never i guess i've never seen one but i've seen them on the tv you know uh the team was able to safely reach the roof bring the adventurous canine back down to safety based on his bravery they say in a quote climbing and comfort being on that roof. I may have to offer this puppy a job, joked Hartford Fire Department Police Chief Mario
Starting point is 00:36:16 Mario Quendo Jr. Aw. It made Mario Quendo Sr. very proud. So there you go. It's cute. It's a little heartbeat story. Yeah. It's a little picture for you. Here you go. Let's see. You can kind of see him up there. It's a video. See if there's anything else? No. Let's let play. Let's see what we get here.
Starting point is 00:36:38 just skip ahead some new tonight a dog was rescued from a roof yeah we just felt like we needed to talk about this because everything else is shit we need to tell you again oh that's great you can't really no no one knows how to use zoom in this oh there's it's your little dog oh for one half a second terrible reporting good job upi all right brian here's an important one. You and I would not have this problem because we're both six two plus, you know, larger dudes. Also, I'm fat. Both of us weigh, you know, north of 200 pounds.
Starting point is 00:37:16 We're not going to have this risk. But if you were in China and you are considered light, stay indoors is the message from the Chinese authorities. They say you are at risk of blowing away. Okay. Man, this is scary stuff. Chinese authorities have advised individuals weighing less than 50 kilograms. That's, what, 91 pounds?
Starting point is 00:37:40 No, seven stone nine pounds is... Oh, it's a British thing. 149 pounds. Good job on that. You didn't even need the Internet to do it. I don't know. I don't know. Stone is 20 pounds.
Starting point is 00:37:52 20 pounds per... I hope I'm remembering that correct. So seven stone is 140 plus nine is... I didn't know that. So every stone is 20? 20 per stone. Yeah. Okay, so let's see.
Starting point is 00:38:05 So I weigh, a lot of stone. Many stones. Many stones. Oh, see, there we go. I did get wrong. 14 pounds. Thank you. I was going to swear it was 20.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You know what? Score is 20. Stone is 14. There we go. Here comes all the correction, the 14. Do all the UK folks still use stone commonly like, oh, I lost two stone this summer? Do they still do that, I wonder?
Starting point is 00:38:31 I don't know if they do. Yeah. Because it's such a goofy thing. All right. So if it's 14 pounds, 714 is 70 plus 28, 98 plus 9 would be 107, 108 pounds. Okay. So pretty light. 107 pounds. That's pretty light for a human, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It's pretty small. So they are telling people that are 50 kilograms or less, you know, a normal measurement that's easy and even. 50 kilos. Yeah. You need to remain indoors this weekend due to the risk of being blown away by strong winds. That's how strong these gale force winds are. They're going to reach up to 93 miles per hour,
Starting point is 00:39:10 which they went ahead and put in here. I guess the UK still those miles per hour, so it's fine. Are expected to sweep through Beijing, Tenjin, and parts of Hebei. I guess that's a province from Friday to Sunday as a cold weather vortex moves southeast of Mongolia. Ah, the Mongols.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You can't, you know, you still can't trust them. You can't trust them. They're always sending their dark wind To your direction Darn Mongols Yeah I've been playing a lot of Ghosts of Shishima
Starting point is 00:39:40 Ghost of Shishima Oh yeah Ghost not ghosts And the Mongols are the big problem They're your whole issue Just gotta kill Mongols constantly They're just dicks Just taking everything over
Starting point is 00:39:52 They're the bad in that game Yeah it's based on historic The story's obviously fiction, but the era and where they're attacking it's all based on when the Mongols tried to take over the Japanese mainland and they worked on the islands first, the smaller
Starting point is 00:40:09 islands first, and that's where you are. And they're super brutal. They're freaking rough and that game is awesome. Oh my gosh, that game's good. I'm going to beat it. Which is not a thing I usually say about games.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Anyway, according to... Not about games anyway. Beijing's meteorological service has issued an orange alert. That's how they do it. The first in a decade, the second strongest or highest level in China's four-tier weather warning system. More than 22 million people have been urged to avoid non-essential travel with a particular warning issued for lighter individuals who may be at risk of being lifted or knocked over by the power gusts.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Power gusts. Wow. The power gusts on stage. Watch up. So look out, light people. Yeah. watch out little bitty people's uh the advisory quickly went on viral on chinese social media with related hashtags trending on webo a popular blogging platform in the country so there you go
Starting point is 00:41:10 just be careful is all we're saying you know i'm not i don't have a lot of really like people in my life trying to think who would be at risk here the kids a little it's kind of not surprising that they never have to issue that warning in america right like yeah yeah we're britain uh yeah Hey, you rare, skinny, light Americans, uh, watch out because it's give you really windy. Yeah. None of these, none of these, none of you Western societies, uh, need to worry about it. You're all good, but some of you small little Asian folk, like my sister, Misha might get blown away. She's pretty small, pretty light.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So, but she's not in China. She'll be fine. Uh, but I would protect her. If she was in China and she was about to blow away, I would grab her by the feet and not let it happen. That's how that would go. That's the kind of brother I am, Brian. that's very nice of you that's very kind
Starting point is 00:41:59 yeah do what I can you good mother speaking of firefighters I guess remember the ones that got the dog off the roof let's talk about another firefighter a parrot screamed F you
Starting point is 00:42:11 at firefighters and was lured down with cigarettes boy if that doesn't tell you how this parrot was raised in its house I don't know what does exactly like it's the the Hunter S. Thompson
Starting point is 00:42:24 of parrots apparently And this is in the UK, or Sweden? Yeah, Gothenburg. Oh, there it is, Gothenburg. Denny Mouch, Mouche, Mousch, probably, and his colleagues from the Greater Gothenburg Rescue Service, or the GGRRS. Of course, yeah. We're out on an errand in Corridala, sorry, Cortadala, Cortadala. Yeah, that's what I would say.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Sure. They spotted a parrot in distress. you know, like you do. Oh, yeah, that's a 1014, by the way. We have a 1014 parent of distress. Grab a pack of Lucky Strikes and meet me at the... Yeah, we got a PID off Kofax. Everybody get down here.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Perched high in a tall tree, the bird appeared too frightened to move or fly away. Quote, it is not really part of our mission to rescue stuck animals, even though people might think that, says Denny Moush. But we can help. He says, if we can help, we will. Not what they say in hard. Hartford, Denny Moush. They find a stuck animal.
Starting point is 00:43:29 They hop to it. That's right. Yeah, we can take a win for America during these dark times at this one example. They know that a bird can fly, right? I mean, a parrot isn't really stuck in a tree because it can fly out of the tree. I agree. I agree, unless they clipped it or something. But they wouldn't because it's up in the tree.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It got there by flying up there. Right, exactly. I agree with you. It's kind of weird. But anyway, after wrapping up their initial task, the team turned their attention to the stranded parrot. They didn't say what their initial task is. Anyway, while he stayed up,
Starting point is 00:44:04 or while he stayed on the ground, one of the firefighters climbed up to attempt to rescue, says this, I was sitting five to seven meters up in the tree, balanced on the narrowest branch I could find. The parrot, however. They're talking about the parent. Yeah, the parrot was sitting five to seven.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah. Oh, did I say I meant it? Sorry. Yeah, he said, I. Oops. The parent, however, didn't seem particularly grateful. In fact, it had a rather foul-mouthed response to its would-be saviors. Quote, I heard from my colleagues that it screamed, F you!
Starting point is 00:44:32 He said with a laugh. Despite the bird's sass, the rescue team remained determined. The parrot was difficult to lure, but it seemed to have been stuck on the branch for some time. It had been first spotted around 4 p.m. And it wasn't until 10 p.m., the firefighters finally managed to coax it down. So they got it down. They did it with the cigarette thing, right? Yeah. I was like, how did they, what made them think, well, this isn't working. Let's try cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. It says, because we all know parrots love cigarettes. Let's try those. It says down here. Let's let me go down further. Okay, here it is. The rescue service learned from the parrot's owner who was also on the scene. The parrots are afraid of the dark and it was therefore not particularly keen to move. But the owner had an ace up a sleeve, a pack of cigarettes. So really, it wasn't like the temptation of a cigarette that got him down. It was the light a cigarette. A cigarette. emits, they got him down. Oh, you think? Okay. No, I think. You think? That's what it says. It says, the rest is because he says, the parents are afraid of the dark and it would not
Starting point is 00:45:35 come down. So they use cigarettes to lure him down. It's got to be a light from the cigarettes. A lit cigarette is not a whole lot of light, but okay. We have to blow on it. Get like a. Why not a flashlight or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Parents are weird, man. They're weird birds. Yes. well anyway we're glad he's okay he's safe he's in good hands I guess so yeah and you know
Starting point is 00:46:00 the owner is still smoking them sigs and everyone lived really funny yeah wild story all right we have done all we can do there to tell you the news and that's good because after this break my sister Wendy will be joining us
Starting point is 00:46:13 she's going to share with us some thoughts about travel and social anxiety ahead of Las Vegas TMS some of you may be feeling jitters. You know, Brian and I get a form of the jitters. We get a little nervous. We do. Yeah. Yeah. We, you know, more that we just want to make sure that everybody has a great time and all that stuff. But, you know, that's where our nerves come from is like, oh, man, let's hope, let's hope, you know, Vegas does right by our people. Exactly. That's
Starting point is 00:46:42 really all it is. And we have so little control of that. It's like nerdtacular used to almost kill me every year because I worried so much about how. everybody's time was going to be that I never quite could have my own good time. Vegas is a little better for that, but Nurtacular was terrible for me. And so this will be good stuff because Wendy gave me a lot of this advice back then. It helped a lot. So that's what we're going to talk about. And she'll be here in a second to do all of that.
Starting point is 00:47:11 In the meantime, Brian, I probably wrote a song, probably going to play it. I did. Yeah, big thanks to Lakeshore Records and Grandstand Media for this one. We played the earlier this week, I think it was yesterday. the main title theme from your friends and neighbors. This time it's from Yellow Jacket. This comes from Bloodhive 3, the original score from the TV series Yellow Jackets. It's a song by Craig Wedron, Wedron, and Anna Wuronker.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It is called Sleepwalking. Maybe you're watching the show, and you've heard this, but here you go. Here is Sleepwalking. Who said that it was easy? Making waves that become shallow. Believing in believing, long lives living in the shadow. Beat myself against the wall, broken records, innocents and all.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Would it be worse to walk away, or better off to stay in bed all day? Sleep walking No use in fighting over Who controls the remote control? Watching static stroke As the nights are growing the colder Sleep walking. Pretty faces break the ice.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Slipping under never felt so nice. Will it be worse to walk away or better off to stay in bed? in bed all night and day. Sleep walking, I... I... Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Sleep walking eye Ah
Starting point is 00:50:21 Ah Ah Ah Sleep walking eye I see you for me, I. I, uh, see for me eye. I sleep walking.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Do you work? When's your birthday? Was it in September? Have you ever been married? You're the one with the snake? You're the one with the bleach? What did you buy at Sears? How does a cook become a producer?
Starting point is 00:51:58 You were an evil spirit? How do you feel about this door? What time's the birthday party over? Did you read the paper? Did you ever hear the word chutzpah? What'd your mother teach you about sticks and stone? Oh, I think I need some sassaparella, please. Sweeney, some sassaparella.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Sassaparilla. Come on now. Sassaparilla. That's really annoying. Anyway, who is that again? That is Craig Wedron and Anna Wurunker and a song called Sleepwalking. You might know him from the band Shudder to Think. He's the frontman for the post-hardcore band Shudder to Think. And then Anna Warrenker is just an indie pop songstress.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And two of them got together for sleepwalking. Nice. Songstress, that name, that word. You hear it a lot. You never hear Strong's. What's the man version? Songster. Songster?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yes. I don't know if people would say that either. Songster. Yeah. I don't know where it came from, but every time I hear it, I just kind of go, that's interesting. Songstress. Songstress.
Starting point is 00:53:09 All right. My sister Wendy in the wings, I hope. Let's see. haven't checked. Sometimes you've got to check in, right? No, I didn't check in, but we'll see. Yeah. We're coming at her a little bit earlier than we usually do a couple minutes earlier. Yeah, that's true. We're usually over a tad, and then she has a minute of buffer. But also her phone rings and her computer rings, and it's all weird. And so for all I know, the first ring doesn't even work. I don't know. Sure. We'll find out. But we have the rings of ringage, so everybody sits still, relax. Don't say anything. Except Brian and I, we'll keep talking. But you guys don't say anything. And I'm sure that will help conjure her here.
Starting point is 00:53:47 That's right. We just have to say Wendy five times and she will appear. Yep, bees will fly out of her mouth and that's right. That'll be that. You have a favorite one of those, by the way? Like a version of the three, say her name three times in the mirrors, say his name five times. Bloody Mary and Beetlejuice. I mean, Beetlejuice is the kind of the, I think, the best version of that.
Starting point is 00:54:07 It's the most fun version of it for sure. It is the most fun version, yeah. The other ones. The Bloody Mary thing is just really disturbing. and dark and horrifying. So it's Candyman for that matter. Right. And it's, they're hard because they're just saying a thing,
Starting point is 00:54:21 whereas like if you want Pinhead to show up, you have to mess around with the box, you know? And if you want like, who's another one? Like Bloody Mary was the thing that actually scared me as a kid because I believed everybody. And that was, that's kind of the thing, the proto version of this, that the Beetlejuice and Candyman kind of came from. Oh, yeah, Ringu.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Right. Ringgo? What's Ringgo? Ringu. That's the The Ring, basically, is the Japanese movie that became the ring when they made it in America. Oh, okay. Where you watch something like this, and then seven days later, you flick your lights on and off and in the
Starting point is 00:54:57 bathroom. We should watch the American ring, because I've never seen the ring. We should do it for film time. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, we should. Line that up for Halloween. It is disturbing. Nomi Watts, I think, is your main actress in that, remember correctly. I might have some memory that Michael Keaton's in it. Do I have that right?
Starting point is 00:55:16 I think. Kind of at a time where nobody was thinking of Michael Keaton anymore. Was he really? He probably wasn't. I just don't remember. I've not seen it, so this is purely based on like maybe I heard something, but let's just look while Wendy's coming. Oh my gosh, it's happening with everything. I wrote the ring IDMB. You really are like, I don't know what's going on. Thursday dyslexia.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah, let me freaking call Tom Cruise and ask him how he does it. All right, here we go. The ring. You're right. Naomi Watts, Martin Henderson,
Starting point is 00:55:51 Brian Cox. Who else? Jane Alexander. I must have it mixed up with something else. There is no Michael Keaton in this. Maybe I was thinking of Brian Cox. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Free Rangers says, yeah, Keaton plays the ghost who comes out of the TV. Are you, Free Rangers, Are you thinking of Beatlejuice? Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's all I've done is juxtapose beetle juice in this.
Starting point is 00:56:16 It's entirely possible. But for some reason, I think he's in a horror movie that's ring-like, ring-adjacent or, oh, I got to find it now. Actually, you know what? It was in white noise, says Stephanie. That's it, which is like a TV thing where you're seeing a thing through the, that's why I get it mixed up with the ring. That's it. It's white noise. Cool.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Woo! Touchdown. job. Who is it? Give him credit. Stephanie. Good job. Good job. Now you have to play mobile game as a winner. That's your winning. Wendy is no answery. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:56:51 No picky-upy. Let me just check and make sure I don't have a text from her. I know she's got a lot going on, so you know, you just want to be safe. You good, I'll say. She'll write back. Oh shit. I forget.
Starting point is 00:57:09 god or it's not ringing or i don't understand technology yeah which is fine i'm the guy in my my extended family i'm the guy you're the guy people call every time yep yep how does that when's the last time you had somebody have to poke you for something yesterday last night my mom was wondering how to use zell so i had to go over there and uh help her use zell in her chase app i don't know what Zell is. It's a way of sending money. If you've got if, I mean, you can use it even if you're the recipient is not a Chase customer.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I think one of, I think the sender has to be in Chase. Maybe not, but Okay. But it's a way of sending money. Is it just regular banks? Is it not Chase specific? But it gets, it gets the money instantly. So instead of saying, oh, I'm going to transfer money from Venmo to you, and then you've got a transfer it to your bank.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You can go right from one Zell to another, and then it goes right into your bank account. Sounds convenient. Way, way more convenient than PayPal or Venmo. Yeah, for sure. And I assume they take a fee, but it's nominal, I assume, some kind of percentage. No, no, no, that was Zell, no fee at all. Really? Dr. Calhoun says Zell is dead now just this week.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I mean, she used it last night. Did Zell really get... What do you mean, dead? get bought, absorbed? Let's see. News, Zell. They shut down last week? Oh, shit. Let's see. Zell, one week ago, C-Nets said Zell app shuts down.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Here's how to digitally send money for free. Weird. I mean, I had somebody pay me for a 3D print this week using Zell. They may have some kind of, they may have something they have to adhere to in terms of how long they still let transactions go. But I bet you can't sign up or something. There we go. The Zell app was deleted.
Starting point is 00:59:09 You just have to go through your bank. So you just do it through your bank. Oh, they're still around. There's just no app. They're still around. The standalone app is what got shut down. KP says it's baked into the Chase app. So Chase must own it or they bought it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And okay. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So that means that there still exist. They're just not. They're not appy. If you have the Chase app, you still have it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And she has the Chase app probably, right? You're your mom. She does. But other people are saying that it is, that it's all banks, not just Chase, but Bank of America, Wells Fargo, all have Zell in there. Oh, wild. All right. Well, there you have it. Psychosomatic.
Starting point is 00:59:51 That boy needs therapy. That boy needs therapy. Lie down on the couch. Hey, it's my sister. I hope we didn't interrupt something important because you seemed busy when I first called. No, I didn't hear it ring or something. Oh, that was one of my guesses that just wasn't ringing for you. Yeah, we rang about 20 times and I thought, is she in a call?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah. Yeah, it's all good. You probably have your, I don't know, notifications turned out for something. I have a life. Yeah, if you have a life. You have stuff going on, right? You can't just stop everything and talk to your stupid brother. Who'd want to do that?
Starting point is 01:00:23 Anyway, hey, it's you. And it's us. And we're going to do this. We're going to have a little therapy Thursday here with Wendy. She's a real therapist, tells people all the times. their real problems and today is no different. In fact, today is kind of a general topic because it fits and that is the idea of quote unquote travel anxiety and social anxiety and sometimes they're, you know, they're connected
Starting point is 01:00:45 those two things. Ahead of TMS Vegas feels like a good thing to do for those that maybe you're a little nervous, first time coming, you know, even Brian and I dealing with their own version of this and want to make sure everybody has a good time at this thing and that sort of stuff. So Wendy, how do you want to approach this? Yeah. How do you want to approach this? Well, actually, let's think about this for a second. So let's actually start with the two of you. What is your version of this? You're the hostesses and you've got to make sure everyone's happy. And like what do you, what's your pregame fears? It's exactly. It's exactly that. We were talking about that before that it's making sure it's less about being worried that something bad is going to happen. it's more being worried that people aren't going to have a good time, that we just want to make sure people show up to this thing and have a great time
Starting point is 01:01:37 and want to come back to it and do it every year. Because if something goes wrong, it kind of lends itself to being part of the event, right? Like something goofy, Hammond almost getting taken to jail for recording something on Fremont Street that he shouldn't. It turns into a little bit that we can kind of use and poke fun at year after year. Yeah. cheesy jeez fart water you know the the smell of the water coming out of her faucet things like that sure we just don't want somebody like to uh you know to get mugged uh walking outside of glitter gulch or something like that it's it's making sure people have a have a good time i don't even care if something goes wrong with the stuff i do because again i can have fun with that i can i can play yeah we're good at that we do it every day i mean this whole people wonder if we edit this show at all we don't i mean i you're worth and all
Starting point is 01:02:30 I have to like put it together before I post it, but it's like puzzle pieces, not removing anything. So we're already used to flubbing something and then making fun of ourselves for two weeks after. And then sometimes the memes last year. So that part is not scary to me at all. The scary part for me is twofold this year. My mom and her situation and something going south while we're there. I don't know why I'm so freaking stressed about that, but I am. And even though like I was talking to top of the show,
Starting point is 01:03:00 The latest is that that IV change is really helping things. And she seems to be doing way better today. Kim was there yesterday and she said she was like 180 degrees different. Wait, is that full rotation? No, that'd be 360. So we're good. 180 degrees different. Anyway, so that's one, that's something that's just been in the back of my mind.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And I think you could probably swap that for a lot of listeners with other stuff like their jobs or my dog while I'm not here. If they're living alone and they're, you know, give the dog to the kennel or something or whatever like all those kinds of things and then the other thing is just it's a it's a version of what brian was saying uh want to make sure people are having a good time my biggest worry every year is that i'm going to leave somebody out and not know i did it and by that i mean like somebody who's kind of quiet not necessarily wants to come up and talk to us who's just sort of off in a corner and just a little shy about approaching us i don't want them to feel like we're
Starting point is 01:03:55 unapproachable i want to make sure we have time with everybody as much as possible and with TMS Vegas, it's actually easier to do that than Nurtacular was because there were way more people at the upper limit, you know, and dealing with trying to be personal with a thousand people is much harder than doing it with 150 people. So it's actually better in Vegas, but I always worry that someone's going to go home and go, well, I wish I would have talked. You know, I hate that feeling that they wouldn't have been able to like connect and whether it's with us or somebody else in the community or even like, oh, I really wanted to talk to Wendy and they didn't get a chance because Wendy was dominating a pickleball
Starting point is 01:04:29 or something like that. I will be dominating. So hopefully that hell. Oh, listen to that type and that's a good sounding type. It's like typing that sounds like you're making popcorn. Yeah, I like that. Geez, somebody asked me what my favorite colors were in the chat. And so I said my favorite colors.
Starting point is 01:04:47 So sorry, I didn't realize you could get to hear that. And I'll tell you, they're purple orange and mustard yellow. I'm really in mustard yellow recently. I love mustard yellow, huge fans. It's such a great color. Okay, sorry about that. No, I, yeah, I think that thing. Let's actually pull on that thread for just a moment.
Starting point is 01:05:03 This feeling like, so you're worried, not because you've made this worry up, Scott. It's because it's happened before. It has, yeah. And what I've noticed at these gatherings is people tend to be in various camps. And it's like an 80s high school show where, you know, we sort a little. that's kind of very human nature, and if people are really comfortable, they're like a little more out there and you're like, okay, those are the jocks. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:05:33 You know what I mean? There's a particular ring around that I have often felt like, well, I don't want to bother anybody over there, even though you're my brother and my sister-in-law, you know, because you seem like you've got stuff going on. So I've been in the nerd circle going, hey, the cool kids aren't paying attention. Yeah. And my point is, that's silly, A, because I'm related to you guys, so I should be able to, you know, I'm also semi-famous. I should act like I'm cool than I am.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Yeah. But it's what happens in a social setting, right? You're new. You're not quite sure. I know a few people coming for the very first time. They've listened to the show forever and ever. They are coming. They are super nervous.
Starting point is 01:06:16 They've talked to me about it. And I'm like, okay, guys, we're all in this to get, like, literally, the people who are acting comfortable have just gone more. than once, right? Or they've had a little more conversations with you or something. They just are feeling maybe more comfortable. Don't think that's the everyone. I would say most people are just like, well, I'm trying to have a good time and this is so cool.
Starting point is 01:06:37 What else? I'm, you know, this is normal to, to feel all of these feelings. The funny thing is, is of probably any group of people I've ever been around, everybody is just so kind. There are no actual jocks here, you guys, except when we play pickleball. You will see. Wendy's going to be the jock. I will shove someone in a locker.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I cannot. No, but that idea of, like, truly you're, you're surrounded with people who are maybe experiencing some social anxiety like you are. And we're not quite sure how to broach the gap, right? And so it'd be really cool if everyone could just, like, know that. And then when you see somebody sort of lurking and standing there or not, like, quite knowing what to do, like you do the reaching out. If everyone just had that idea, like, I'm going to reach out to at least one person well in there that I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I mean, it solves half these challenges. Because this is a human, this is human nature when we're going to a place that we really want to be there, but we don't know, and it's new and all of those different things. So it's really fun. And I've watched this a few years that I've gone. People who work kind of on the periphery are suddenly in the, the thick of it, right? They really find their groove and find other
Starting point is 01:07:57 people. So, I mean, their best outlet, yeah. 100%. And you guys love the same thing. You love Brian and Scott talking about arts. Like, that is a bonding deeply connecting. Right? And so, of course, that's all I think it is. But I'm kidding. But they
Starting point is 01:08:15 the other thing, too, is the activities, so I'm going to sound like I work for the committee on activities or something, but doing the activities. I feel like the closest I have out to everybody is the night we did karaoke. I'd never done it before. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is so much more fun to watch people make fools of themselves and be the fool myself.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And like, so go to the thing, sign up for the thing, join the hike. Whatever is going on, do your best to like overcome that feeling of like, nobody really wants me to come to this or what if no one talks to me? You know, some really middle school thoughts and feelings, truly, if I had everyone raise their hand, if you've ever had these feelings, you probably had them in middle school, and you've probably had them recently at some kind of event where you had to schmooze or something, right? This is normal and fine, and just know we're all in the same boat. So there's that.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Sure. And Scott is really nice. So just to approach him. Yeah, I am nice. Dude, don't ignore me. So is Brian. We are very nice human beings. We are full of nice.
Starting point is 01:09:18 If you cut us open, you'd find a big glob of nice right in the center of us. So don't be afraid of us. Also, don't cut us open. A nice cream filling. Well, Brian has the right face, Scott. Your face. I have, I have resting bitch face. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:32 It's been a problem my whole life and I didn't even know how to term until like 10 years ago. But if I sit still, like even right here listening to Wendy, when Wendy talks, if I don't put a fake smile on while she talks, I look mad. And I'm not. I'm not mad. It's just how the physical. It's the physical. of the thing. I didn't make it. I didn't build it. It just does whatever it does. And Brian, you have the opposite where it's like, Brian, I can't turn it off.
Starting point is 01:09:56 You could help me at any point in my life. I would just be like, you, that guy, can you please come help me? Yeah. Yeah. But see, the problem is that when I get, when I get mad, people can't tell because, you know, I'm still smiling and, you know, they think, oh, Brian's not mad. Yeah. And Wendy herself has what we all around here call helper face where she's, she can be, she has to be careful what colors she wears in a Walmart because people will walk up and go, excuse me, can you tell me where the bike aisle is or whatever because they think she works there because she looks helpful and might know where shit is. And here's the weird part. She'll probably help you anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's over there. Yeah. I fixed a printer in a library. I don't even know how printers work, but I did it. Wendy intentionally wears a red shirt and khakis when she goes to Target
Starting point is 01:10:42 just so that she can help people. Okay. I always thought it was just stores. You guys, this happened at mom's rehab center. I was walking down the hall and this lady's like, oh, you look like you work here. I'm like, okay. I guess I also work in a rehab center. See, that's funny because there was nothing in my mind about you while you were here that looked like you worked there, but you definitely sounded like you knew more than most people there, like you could work there. I mean, I'm a social worker to my bones. Exactly. All right. What are our resources? What are we doing? Yeah, you fit right in, of course. But, um, and I think that was, but see, you having that kind of authoritative information and a helper face is really useful for you
Starting point is 01:11:23 in the job that you do. In mine, it's actually kind of a problem because I've had people say, hey, at the end of that show, you looked mad. I'm like, I'm not mad. I'm not even, how do I say something at the end of that that we missed? And even if I smile, like right now, it looks like I'm being sarcastic or something. It's something I'm just cursed with. I don't know how to deal with it. But there is a smile you do sometimes, Scott, that's like a... Yeah, I know. But there's that one that is... Well, I guess if something's happening where I should be sarcastic, I suppose I could do that one.
Starting point is 01:11:56 But just like the resting normal face gets interpreted so many different ways by so many different people. And it's an issue. Or my daughters, one of them does this. The other doesn't. Carter has happy resting face. Taylor looks like me like she's pissed and she's not. So I don't know. I don't know how to...
Starting point is 01:12:14 I can't change it. Keep you guys to have sparkly eyes. When they see your eyes sparkle, they're like, oh, that's fine. You don't have stuff like the eyes. Okay, I have actually another thought. Like, when we think about, I think so often there is a, you have a lot of makers and a lot of people who contribute and, you know, bring cool stuff and we got the games. And like, there's a currency that is like the Chotchky currency a little more so with this group. And I think that's a real.
Starting point is 01:12:45 helpful, like, mediator and social situations. There's like, here's a thing. Oh, here's a pin or a sticker that I made or, or, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. And when I. Really cool things that he's talking about this year that he's bringing. Like, there's, there's a lot of people who do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 So I want to say this. I brought the, the supertaster tabs for people to try and figure out who's a supertaster. And I did that, what, two years ago or something. It was really fun. And I was like, oh, this is how you do it. You bring a thing. But I want to say to the. people who don't have a thing to bring. That's okay. Someone does need to hand you a thing. We need
Starting point is 01:13:21 people to receive. If everyone had Josh case, we'd be dead. Exactly. We need people to accept the things that the other people bring. Yes. Yes. And that's okay. And I think sometimes you can feel like, oh, I'm not. So I'm thinking about middle school for this reason. I got a middle schooler. But there is just a lot of things about that stage of life where you're trying to navigate how to fit in and do you fit in? Do you belong? Those kinds of things. And I think you guys have done an amazing job of just like, there's automatic belonging. You just belong. Come on in. Unless you're a jerk face, those are the only ones we don't let it. Everyone else. We chase out the jerk faces. Yeah, they don't last for a minute. They don't last very long. Like in Discord, we have an open Discord. You don't have to do anything fancy to join it. When people join our Discord, if they don't match this template we have of the kinds of people that we have in there, they just don't last. naturally it's not even like we go hold on a minute tell me your likes and it's not like that they just they start to behave in ways and you're like what do you before chan junior get out of here
Starting point is 01:14:23 we don't need this and they don't last very long yeah so that i just want everyone to hear who's going that is the baseline everyone is welcome and everybody belongs and the act of engaging so that you really truly feel belonging is up to you that can feel really scary so come find me and I will force you into a game of pickleball or I'll make you listen to a lecture or I'll have you talk to Misha. Misha's so nice. Oh, you'll never talk to a nicer human being on this planet and if any of you ever give her a hard time or put me. Yeah, we will kill you. Yeah. If you smear, listen, you put you smear peanut butter on her leg. My foot's going up your butt like my dad's foot went up my butt. All right. Totally. Totally. She's the same. Don't you touch her. But yeah, I, I'm excited. And I, I, I'm excited. And I, I, I think people, I'd love everyone to feel a little bit, like, motivated or challenged to make a new friend, to open up to some, you know, try something you haven't tried before, you know, be the thing
Starting point is 01:15:29 you were just like, I don't know if I should go to that. Like, if you hear those voices in your head, I want you to say, all right, Mr. Bueller from seventh grade. Like, I belong. And this is okay. And, you know, because we have that as a protection. The protection response we have in in not engaging socially is to protect ourselves from rejection or to protect ourselves from that terrible feeling of I don't belong here. I don't fit in. And I'm telling you, if there's any place to practice it, this is the place. And it's Vegas. So no one will say anything afterwards because what happens in Vegas? Yeah, it stays there. What's the current one, Brian, do we determine? It's something else now.
Starting point is 01:16:10 yeah is it uh your that's not your vagus is showing anymore it's some short thing now right yeah i can't remember we went through the whole list and now i've forgotten entirely because it partly because they've had better ones and now the new ones not very good but i can't remember what it is um crap is like officially vagus yeah yeah what happened to Vegas stays in Vegas that was an official Vegas the PR thing yeah and they change it all the time or sometimes it's long years with not changing it. Then they changed your Vegas is showing or what happens. For a while it was just plain what happens here stays here
Starting point is 01:16:44 instead of oh no, what happens here doesn't happen anywhere else or something like that. That's what they changed it to. Oh, it got longer and less weird. They should copy Nebraska which was Nebraska. It's not for everyone.
Starting point is 01:16:59 So as of 2020 it says it is currently what happens here stays here. So I think there oh no no no I'm sorry now they tweaked it is now what happens here only happens here that's that's what it is I made it way longer than it was what happens here yeah which is not as good as the original one but whatever I kind of like that no I think that that actually gets the point across that there's stuff in Las Vegas that you won't see anywhere else as opposed to don't worry murder somebody leave the city won't follow you yeah put a body under the bed in the hotel room it'll stay here. Like, you'll stay there. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:17:40 It's more like, we've got a globe. And it's got concerts. Right. Exactly. Once you leave our jurisdiction, the cops can't find you. Good luck to you. No, that's, that's interesting. I, you know, one of the things I was going to say is, um, I remember one year in at a
Starting point is 01:17:56 nerdtacular, there's this little kid who was really into World of Warcraft. And he was dying to talk to me. It was 2015. He was dying to talk to me and Chris Metzen, who were, uh, Metzen was that, he was there. that year. And he wanted to talk to him so bad. And he wanted to talk to me so bad that he... Is this the red track suit dude? No. No different guy than that. Okay. Red track suit. Oh, right. No, not. That guy was ever... He showed up everywhere. He stood up at everything. Yeah. He was great. He slept on my couch one year, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Just woke up and went downstairs and we went. So remember the years where we do it at the house, like 2011, 2010 or whatever? People would come of that. house after for the dinner and the fun and the hangout. And that guy sat down in one of those chairs and just conked out and slept for like an hour. It's really weird. I love that. And for old wow head, you'll know him as redshirt guy and he's a total meme into himself. But anyway, this little kid, he was a young kid and he was with his parents and he really wanted to meet him and he just couldn't do it. And I talked to his parents later and he felt so bad. He just was afraid to go up. And that stuck with me so hard. I didn't want anyone to ever feel that way to feel
Starting point is 01:19:06 afraid to come see us or that we weren't approachable enough, especially a kid because I always loved having kids at those events. And TMS is harder to do that with in Vegas just because it's Vegas. But, you know, that was a special thing. And when I heard that, it stuck with me for years. Like, it kind of had a hard time getting over that. So I still have that feeling of who did we not see that we, they felt intimidated and didn't come up. That's where my anxiety is with this. And I don't want them to feel that way. Because the only reason we do this, So everybody's having a good time. Anything less than that is not up to our standard.
Starting point is 01:19:42 That's what we want. So I don't want that again. It won't be a kid this time, but who will it be? So I worry about that all the time. We'll see what happens, I guess. So that's your invitation, people, to not let Scott's worries become reality. Go introduce yourself and say hello. Yeah, make it about me and not about you.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And then everything will get solved if you just make it all about me. Let's talk about that for a minute. Some strategies when you are feeling. social anxiety, right? You are like, oh, just, and everyone's got different, like, energy batteries for this, right? So stay hydrated, get some sleep. So maybe you got a little more juice to offer in your social settings. But truly, like, it's okay that you don't go to all the things, and it's okay that you are,
Starting point is 01:20:24 you know, you need a lone time with your slot machine or whatever, right? Like, you can decide how you spend your time. But if you want to engage in this way, let's talk just about a couple of things that people do that are helpful in managing the social stress of, you know, the interacting with each other. So I'm going to give you guys a couple guesses, you know, we're going to just brainstorm a little bit. Why do you think this even happens? Why is, what does social anxiety even mean? Why would it exist?
Starting point is 01:20:56 I mean, why would it exist? I mean, what is it? First of all, to define it, it's not feeling comfortable in. in social settings, feeling like withdrawn or introverted when you're around groups of people. Even people you don't know, but even can be with people that you do know and kind of a feeling either that you don't belong there or that you're not as important as everybody else there or anything like that. Yeah, I think that says it pretty well.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I can't think of anything that other than it's, you feel like there is. a feeling of being on the spot, I guess, even if you're just attending, like, there's going to be a spotlight on you for, or there's the potential of that of you having to talk or say things that are interesting in a moment where it's sudden and you're like, oh, hey, I don't think we've met. And then you have to do something. Like, that's a, that's anxiety inducing anything for people. Yeah, yeah, 100%. And that spotlight thing is really kind of the key. So the origin for social anxiety everybody's got a little bit of performance slash social anxiety in like the normal realm range right which is the I'm about to speak in front of a huge
Starting point is 01:22:18 audience right like or I've got to do a presentation or it's just the nerves that are necessary for not productivity but for performance okay and there's maybe an overabundance of those nerves in various people for various reasons so we we think of it as potentially the source might be some genetic. So, like, shyness tends to be a very genetic thing. So if you feel like you're pretty shy, look in your family tree, who else was pretty shy? And it's not always that it is social anxiety, right? Because shyness doesn't necessarily me that per se,
Starting point is 01:22:58 but it turns into anxiety as we have more situations that maybe make it trickier, right? And so personality traits, life experiences, a little bit of genetics kind of can all intertwine. And then what you're exposed to, right? If you are never forced to do a thing that is socially anxious for you, your anxiety will continually tell you the story like, that's because it's dangerous and terrible, we'll never do it. But when you do proactively do some things or are forced to do some of those things, it can lessen because your system learns like, oh, we didn't die. Yeah. Okay. Interesting, right?
Starting point is 01:23:32 So that can show up in a lot of different ways. And then some people have really physical responses. So I just, I guess I'm trying to like give, you know, it's okay, right? You might feel a little dizzy or you might have a fast heartbeat. You might blush or sweat or feel like your mind goes blank. Anyone relate to that one? Your mind just goes, goodbye, right? And so that challenges those feelings because they're obviously very real.
Starting point is 01:24:02 means you're going to avoid more social situations. And then the cycle begins of the, you avoid it. Your brain's like, see, I knew it. Avoiding's great. Let's always avoid. And so some of it is this exposure therapy concept where you're sort of pushing yourself to do the hard thing to help it. There is treatment that can make this better.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Sometimes even just like an antidepressant or having more serotonin in your brain can actually help with it, which is fun. Because it treats the anxiously. part, your body isn't responding quite the same, and you're able to then practice more social engagements. So this is all the science stuff. Let me give you the practical hack. Okay, ready? Ooh, I like practical hacks. I like these. You ready? Everybody is a little afraid that they're going to be stupid and say the wrong thing or whatever. And they all have the same problem,
Starting point is 01:24:55 which is the spotlight thing, Scott, you're talking about. Everyone has a bit of like, oh, this is about me, the focus is on me, panic kind of thing, right? The people who are successful in social situations that maybe don't even feel like they're good at it, but they are. And you can verify this. Think of the people you've talked to. Who instantly puts you at ease? Who instantly makes you feel like, oh, I, this is going to be a fine social interaction.
Starting point is 01:25:23 It is typically people who make it a little bit about you. And that's because everyone needs a little bit of like, I see you. So they make sure you're comfortable or they ask you questions. They don't require you to do too much work as the person who feels like is being spotlighted. And I find social interactions very easy because I just am going to ask questions. And people, you know, I got the face and the sparkly eyes. So they're like, she really cares about me. And I do.
Starting point is 01:25:58 I genuinely do. They don't become the focus of everyone's attention. They become the focus of your attention, which I think is what makes it easier. Yes. And I have no actual agenda. I'm just like, oh, it's so great to me. And I'm genuinely curious about you. Like, oh, where are you from?
Starting point is 01:26:16 Oh, cool. Tell me about that. Do not let that freak you out, by the way. Don't freak. Here's the thing I just to say about that. When Wendy does that, I think there could be a tendency for you to go, ah. She's really good at this, and she seems like she's, she's trying to fear what's wrong with me. Or she's got questions.
Starting point is 01:26:34 These are questions that I didn't. Do I even know how to answer this question? Like, don't feel that way because that's not how this is. This isn't like, um, like I'm, how do I put this? It's really quick. Yeah. When people don't know I'm a therapist, this works like a charm. When they know I'm a therapist, I am much more careful.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Yeah. Because of that very thing that they're like, oh, she wants it. And I was like, do you think I walk around working for free? I do not. That is not what I'm here for. I am just genuinely curious. But I know it can kind of make people think like, oh. Or, you know, if they stop and ask me a question, I'm telling you, you want to blow me away?
Starting point is 01:27:11 Come to me and say, ask me a very, like, curious, interesting question. I will be like, fine, we're getting married because no one does it. And I'm telling you, it's probably because I outdo it. I outdo it for them. Because people like to have, okay, so take that. focused thing. I'm afraid everyone's looking at me, that middle school fear. And then somebody actually looks at you and likes you. That's the antidote, right? And so what I'm telling you is every time you interact with someone, if you just act curious and it's, you know, pretty authentic
Starting point is 01:27:44 and you want to understand them a little or get to know them a little bit, it's a game changer. What most of us are doing is wanting someone to know us or to meet us or see that we're relevant or belong. And all I'm telling you is if you do it first, it will be reciprocated. I mean, the few times people don't respond well to me, I'm always just like, wow, all right, I just gave you what you wanted. Just kidding. No, because everyone's a little different. But in these like, what do you call them, networking kinds of experiences or meeting new people, this will go really far. So all I'm telling people to do is if you're really nervous, imagine that you need to find out one interesting fact about that person. And that's your mission. And so you want to know, you know, where they live,
Starting point is 01:28:32 you know, what their favorite board game is. If it's the board game activity, right? And everyone's playing board games. It just be like, what is your favorite thing? And people love to talk about their favorite things. So, you know, you can just sort of, you know, this group, you might have a lot more, you know, like better questions than I can think of. But yeah, you just be curious and interested. I think that's that's really good advice. I have the I don't know, maybe Brian can relate to this, but I feel like I have a very in the moment I'm good kind of thing. Like if I think too much about it, I'm all sorts of stressed about who I'm going to talk to. I have an interview this week, for example, with a game developer I'm super into and I really like them and I want this
Starting point is 01:29:16 interview to go well. And in my head, I'm double thinking, triple thinking, everything going, all right, I'm going to be nervous about this, but I hope I don't say something stupid or whatever. I want this to go really well. So I have this whatever level of anxiety is about this interview. And as usual, what will happen, I know this will happen because it's happened a hundred times. When I do these interviews in the moment, it's not an issue. It's no problem. I am not nervous.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I am not holding back. I'm not questioning anything. I'm not flubbing anything. I'm just getting to it. And they're having a good time. And when it's over, it's always been good. I've never had a bad interview, an interview go bad. and I don't know
Starting point is 01:29:52 but it's that lead up time when you're anticipating it yes and is there a way to turn is there a way to maybe that's required so that's why I wanted to ask Wendy and I was having a hard time formulating a sentence around it is that important to the success of the thing meaning if I wasn't worried about it would it make me just too dismissive and flipping it wouldn't be you know what I mean right does that add to the energy
Starting point is 01:30:17 does that nervousness translate into the energy that helps you deliver a really good performance or a really good interview or whatever it is. Right, right. Okay. That's good to hear. It's the optimal amount. The problem is when we get outside of the range of the optimal amount, we will freeze or we'll flee or we'll sweat to death. You know, like we have these. And the more we worry that we're coming across as nervous, the worse it gets. So it can be kind of a vicious cycle mentally. Everything we're talking about is a mental story that got planted a long time ago or our bodies reacted now we've got a story that just keeps this difficult. And so the more you practice, the more you have good experiences,
Starting point is 01:30:58 the story starts to shift. It just takes a minute. Okay. Yeah. So optimal nervous is great. That's good. Yeah. I guess the trick is trying to find out what's optimal and for different people might be different. But yeah. But yeah, you know, I guess it has less application to what we're talking about here. But for us, it, has direct application for Ryan and I, like we should feel a normal. If we're just sitting back going, yeah, Vegas, whatever. Yeah, it's all going to you'll find. I don't need to prep or think about it.
Starting point is 01:31:28 It's, you know, it'll, it'll just land nicely the way it's supposed to and blah, blah, blah. Yes. And it's not. It's really calm. It's because he's got some good breathing techniques. Right. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Well, I'm excited for everybody to come and, you know, practice some of this stuff. but also if you're if you're feeling super confident that's great too excited to see you but you know a quick reminder that if uh if you're feeling nervous at all don't we're try not to around us uh because we're there to hang out with you that's our chief thing you know i don't we're not going to Vegas to strut around on a stage and show you what we're wearing we're there to to hobnob and learn who you are and we don't notice what we're wearing. Yeah, don't even look at what I'm wearing. My jeans will be too tight. I can tell you that. I can promise you that.
Starting point is 01:32:18 And I'll probably bring a sweater because I'll look at the weather in the wrong city or something. Yeah, that's true. Come prepared for that. But also, you'll get to see Misha and Wendy and, you know, just get to have a good time and, you know, leave your other problems behind. If you have a little stress about us, don't worry about it, but try to put all the rest of it away and you'll have a good time with us. Wendy, anything else you'd like to add anything going on over on the site? And you want to mention? A big announcement in Vegas, and then it'll extend to everything else. Apparently, I've heard what this is called.
Starting point is 01:32:49 This is called pulling a Johnson. So I'm going to pull a Johnson. It is called that, yeah. And surprise y'all there and then more information. But go to KBU, Know Better You.com, and put in your email, and you'll get notifications as soon as stuff is up and ready. Yep, sign up, you, your weirdos. Thank you, thank you. It's good to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Yes, please. Have a fantastic time until we see you. I don't know, eat all your chicken or whatever. I don't know what I'm saying. Bye now. Can't think of a good sign off. See, again, we don't edit. I could go back in later and say something normal,
Starting point is 01:33:24 but I'm not gonna. Yeah, no. It is what it is. May all your diagnoses be crystal clear. May everyone pay their bills. All right, we are done, except for a couple of bits of deal here. We got shows today.
Starting point is 01:33:41 That's right. In particular, Brian's got Coverville. Tell us about it today. Coverville in about a little over an hour and 20 minutes. Yeah, it's going to be the Buzzcox, Pete Shelley, covers of and by the band and the late great Pete Shelley. That'll be at Twitch.tv slash Coverville, like it's in about an hour and 20 minutes. And if you're only familiar with one song with that Ever Fallen in Love,
Starting point is 01:34:04 that's, you know, there may be one or two other songs, Homo sapien and What Do I Get? were the other songs. There's 13, 12 other songs in this thing that you'd be like, oh, this is really cool. I'm going to go check out more buzzcocks. Nice. Get all the Coss, excuse me, get all the buzzcocks you can stand
Starting point is 01:34:21 today on about an hour. We won't edit that one at all either. No, it'll be fine. And then while you're sitting around going, man, that music was great, I sure could go for some video game coverage. Stick around because at 1 p.m. Mountain Time, Core will be on. Myself, John, and Boe, talking all things
Starting point is 01:34:36 video games. We will start at 1 p.m. at both the YouTube channel, both. I say both. Both. I didn't put an L in there. I hope not. I did not. I didn't hear one.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I'm working on it. Unless it was a silent L is the problem. That's the problem is the silent L is always there. Anyway, that'll be on both the YouTube live as well as if you are cool with emoji only chatting. It'll be on Twitch as well. So watch for that. That's happening today at 1. TMS Friday happening tomorrow 9 a.m.
Starting point is 01:35:07 That'll be tomorrow for patrons only. If you're not a patron yet, you could literally sign up today and listen to the show live tomorrow. I got Word that Patreon's integrating a live stream option. Oh, really? It's not going, I guess they roll it out slow. I don't know how they're going to do it, but it's been in testing for a while. And I think it's happening now. So it's looking like we'll be able to do it within Twitch, not have to do some fakery over on, or not Twitch, I'm sorry, on,
Starting point is 01:35:37 within Patreon. With them Patreon. Some fakery over on Twitch. Exactly. And then we don't have to worry about song issues, getting dinged, or any of that stuff for the Friday thing. Oh, that's cool. So we play a little roulette as it is right now with the song. This time we won't.
Starting point is 01:35:53 So anyway, I don't know when that's happening, but we'll let you guys know. But for now, there will be an unlisted, ready-to-go live channel thing happening tomorrow. We'll put it up tonight. And 9 a.m. is when you're going to want to be here if you want to be here live. Everybody else can listen to it whenever they want. That's how podcasts work. Cool. And then a film stack this weekend, we're doing Sword and the Sorcerer, or The Sword and the, is it The And The?
Starting point is 01:36:15 Sorcerer. I think it's The Sword and the Sorcerer from 1982, I think, is what we. Oldie, but a baddie, probably. Yes, not the animated Disney thing. No. I used the animated Disney thing was the Sword and the Stone, not the Sword and the Sorcerer. Right. This thing's live action, pretty gnarly looking, but also looks like it's early.
Starting point is 01:36:36 earnestly trying to capture some hard fantasy. I don't think I've seen it. Every time I look at a trailer or a screen grab, I think, well, surely I saw this when I was a kid. I don't think so. I know. It feels like something we would have watched as kids, and there's not a single recognizable name in this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Yeah. Oz has such a horrible movie almost as bad as Conan, and I would argue, we like Conan around here, so we're good. I'm in. Right. Sorry, with one exception, Richard Mall from I think this is the same Richard Mall from Nightcourt, yeah. I think.
Starting point is 01:37:10 See, now I kind of remember him in a fantasy. And remember people saying, oh, can you believe that's Nightcourt, Richard Mall in this? Yeah. Shit. I don't know what we're watching. I'm excited, though. We're going to learn.
Starting point is 01:37:22 I guess so. Yeah. So that'll happen this weekend. Film sack. Check it out. All right. That's it for everything else you'll find at frogpants.com slash TMS.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Make sure to follow the new YouTube channel that's linked over there. that is where new episodes are going although they will end up on the playlist over here but if you are a YouTube music listener and that's how you get the show you're going to want to sub to the new channel. That is going to do it for us Brian let's play a song and get out
Starting point is 01:37:46 I like that idea Ambassador Domo wrote in good old Robert Monti said another year another birthday can I get a fish sandwich this early oh my gosh you can do it right effing now here you go I can death and stop hey two are I get a fish sam and a bonus one
Starting point is 01:38:02 Hey, is it too early to get a fish sandwich? Ding, bingo. Can you give them also a happy Durshtay? Oh, we totally can. Hold on here. And, in fact, we'll give them the yay screen. Where's the Dersh day? Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Happy Thursday, do you. Happy birthday, Domo. Yeah. He says, I give the Covermaster too many options, but if they don't work, please play whatever you damn, deem appropriate. No problem. Happy to do it. By the way, you, and some people say, hey, I found this on Spotify. I don't find anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I can't do stuff that's on Spotify. I need physical files. And if it's not anywhere else but Spotify or something like that, then it's, then it can't get, we can't get the clearance or can't get the thing to play it. So this one, one of your requests,
Starting point is 01:38:48 was on regular streaming service and available for purchase, which I did. It is Winstarks, a single that he released this year, not originally by Celine Dion, Not originally by Cindy Lopper, although both of them had big hits with it. This one was originally by Roy Orbison.
Starting point is 01:39:08 The song is, I drove all night. Here is Winstarks. I had to I had to escape the city was sticky and cool Maybe I should have called you first but I was dying to get to you I was dreaming while I drove the long street road ahead, uh-huh, yeah, Cotaceous sweet kisses your arms open wide It's fever for you, it's divining me up inside
Starting point is 01:40:17 I drove all night to get to you Is that all right? I drove all night, crept in you. Focus from your sleep to make love for you. Is that all right? I drove all night. What in this world could keep us from falling apart? No matter where I go, I hear the beating of our one heart.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I think about you when the night is cold and dark, uh-huh, yeah. No one can move me the way that you do. Nothing erases this feeling between me and you I drove on night to get it to you Is that all right I drove all night crept in you woke you from your sleep
Starting point is 01:41:50 asleep to make love to you is that all right? Oh, I drew my name. Is your arms open wide It's evil for you It's just burning me up inside I drove on night To get to you Is that all right Oh
Starting point is 01:42:42 I drove on night It's crept to you Oh, is that all right? I don't want to get to get to you. Okay, if I'm from your sleep to make love to you. Is that all right? I drove all night. Roses are red, and I love to dance.
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