The Morning Stream - TMS 2821: Big Cottage Cheese

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for May 13th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Good morning. Hello. Good morning, my good sir. Visit by a kid. Let me see if I can pick her up. Oh, yeah. Get the kitty on. We haven't had a kitty cam in a while. Look at this. Yay. Visit by the kitty. Hello.

Oh, what are you doing? I'm a big white, fat kitty. She doesn't seem to like the lights or the, uh, this, maybe she's just embarrassed about the attention. I don't know. She knows that all these people are looking at her. She, there's a squirm that she does when I'm holding her that's not like I'm trying to get down. It's like a, uh, you know, like a, ooh, scratch this part of my neck or this part of my ear or whatever. This I think is, this is the.

This is just the, like, the playful squirm as opposed to the put me down. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Beautiful kitty. That's it. That's it. I will put her down. Continues to be Brian's familiar in all the right ways. That's right. Yes. That's great.

She is the companion in both name and action. That's right. One day she'll stand atop your chest while you sleep and then start speaking and say, Brian, it is time. Sucking the breath out of my body. Oh, yeah, that's right. Cats do that. At least the movies told me they do. The movies told you they do that. Yes, cat's eye.

Yeah, that movie told us a lot of things that aren't true. Anyway, hey, guys, I got a question for Brian right at the top of the show because I've been in a little bit of a nostalgic mood and I've been watching in the background old GI Joe episodes. And they're awesome. They're terrible and great. Oh, man, they're good. Sure. Because the storylines are just freaking ridiculous. Yeah.

I really do love them. And one of them got me to thinking of a question. And also there was some talk of like a whole bunch of other movie properties that Hasbro was going to do. We talked about some film sac that we expected crossovers.

It was to be the Habro-Hasbro-Connecting universe with ROM, the Space Night, and Transformers, G.I. Joe and Micronauts. Yeah, all that stuff. Silverhawks was on the possible table, although Hasbro doesn't know them, but I've been watching a little bit of Silverhawks. And anyway, it got me.

me to thinking, what would Brian want in 2025 out of a Micronauts animated series? Let's say Netflix picks something up and even maybe hired the team that did the great He-Man reboot or whatever. There's a few things like this lately. Oh, you're right. That was Kevin Smith. I forgot. Yeah. And it was good. It was like legit. So would you, obviously, you'd be down because you're a fan, but what do you down. What do you want out of that? That's a really good question because the Marvel Comics series

in the 80s was great. It was God, I can't remember who the writer on it was, but it was Mike Golden did the artwork and for the most part they stayed, they introduced a few new characters as you would, obviously. It's not just

you know, Commander Rand and Baron Karza and on all that. They had to create like bug, a character that never had an action figure or never did in the in the day um rufus says jim shooter was he i knew he was editor in chief was he writing micronauts jim shooter he was a writer that name's familiar i bet jim shooter at uh myli comics a couple times old 70s 80s writer guy yeah well 70s 80s editor in chief i don't oh didn't know at marvel he at marvel yeah oh i didn't know that okay yeah um so what it would what it would

have to be that's a really good question because there are you know you look at these things and there's some cheeseball bits to them biotron is just this

lumbering hulk of a character that really it's really just used to kind of carry other figures around so it would need it would definitely need some sort of like um

kind of 80s Voltrony kind of tongue-in-cheek homage kind of thing instead of taking itself fully seriously have it be somewhat of a 70s toy line 80s toy line cartoon yeah there's biotron right so biotron i'm looking at him here on screen he looks so he's does he have well i guess we don't know he's never animated does he have a voice does he talk in the comics is he uh he did yeah he had you talked in the comics he was uh there's here's biotron right here you have that exact action figure that i'm

looking at that's exactly well i think i have i have the um the super eight uh recreation of it the actual action figure and i do have it in a box over there is like super tall oh really like that that see that um that clear thing on his chest yeah you would put other action figures inside that so oh my gosh dude that's the size exactly like he he carry other people around wow so uh yeah but imagine, and I have no idea why he has SV on his unit there, by the way. That's a whole... That is a little weird, isn't it?

So, neither of those are the letters in Biotron. No, it's not even close to Biotron. Yeah, there you go. There's the Marvel. And that's awesome looking. That's a badass. That actually makes it look like, all right, this is a dude in a mech suit,

you know, that you can actually get behind as opposed to the reality of what the toy looked like. So that's what I'd want. Something along those. lines that is is it doesn't take itself fully seriously because it couldn't and and still be legit um but kind of has that Voltron kind of feel to it I think would be the way you do that yeah I would be into it too and I right now I'm just in the mood

for this stuff I don't know what's going on with my head but I'm just loving going back thinking about what they could do if they really do end up crossing over G.I. Joe and Transformers that could be actually really fun that should be really cool yeah and that dude the the producer that we talked about on film sack wants to do it, is basically trying to write the screenplay to make it, make it work. You should do it. They should make it happen. Well, anyway.

Rufus DeKat talks about Ron the Space Knight. So they had the action figure, again, the action figure that came out. That looked really cool until you realized, he only had like four points of articulation. I think his arms bent, but no elbows. And I don't even know if his legs moved at all. he was like super statue-like so in the comic he looked pretty

cool but it's pretty cool yeah like that it was like a silver surfer variant almost that guy for sure and uh yeah bill matlow and um sal busima uh sal busimi's artwork never grabbed me

I loved his his rum the space and that art work was great but every person that he drew all had the same face all had the same facial expression. It was always it was always that same open mouth like it's like the Bryant. That's like the ibbit bomb is what that is. It's almost like the ibbit bomb is what it is. Yeah, exactly. That's funny.

You know what I know it immediately after you just said it. I know exactly what it looks like. That's a cool. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, look at that. It's way better than I think this is the OG guy right here. Right? This is the... Yeah, there's the toy.

No elbow movement. Oh, yeah. the legs did did have some movement but it's pretty pretty cheesy i'm on my way to get a latte that's what he looks like you're saying right there pretty cornball way cooler in this other iteration but yeah i'm being cool that's the that's the rom i'd want in some sort of animated or or um or crossover transformers thing was rom the rom the word reference to like random or no i guess like a rom on your read only memory Yeah, or that's what I meant. Couldn't think of it.

Random access. Probably. Yeah, that's interesting. They had crossovers of Space Ghost. They had all these other things. Why is that not a thing again? Let's bring it back. You know?

I'm kidding. Space Ghost, too. That would be cool. Yeah, I'd be into that. Anyway, I'm in the mood right now. Did you start watching something new on Netflix? Well, season two of a thing that I loved a season one of, which is a Japanese competition show called The Devil's Plan.

They put a bunch of a bunch of South Koreans in a house and give them these really elaborate games to play. It's not like, you know, physical, oh, how long can you keep this Nerf ball in the air? It's like, all right, here's a game where two of you are thieves. The other 12 of you are police and two of those police are corrupt and will work with the thieves. And what you have to do is go on this map and it's almost like these elaborate board game kind of things. and it's really cool. It's really fun. Did I say Japanese? Sorry, South Korean game game show called Devil's Plan.

And they, the first episode, it's like all the people show up in the house and you're introduced to all of the players. And it's like, oh, here's a woman who started her own YouTube channel, but she's also a biochemist. And then here's a dude

who is a successful rock DJ And, but by the way, he also scored the highest possible score in Mensa. Like, it's really, it's great. Like, their introductions are really cool. Oh, you're the newscaster from, I recognize you. You're the newscaster. Yes. And also, I went to, I have a lot degree from Cornell or something.

Jeez. That's crazy. Well, they're advanced games, so I guess you want advanced people, right? You want the smartest people, because, yeah, they immediately start figuring out how to game the system and talking amongst each other and how to play. But this year they've got, is it Justin

Lim? What's the guy's name? Hold on a second. It might have been on that page you were at. He's a Hollywood, he's South Korean, but he's a Hollywood actor. Let's see. Oh, Justin H. Min? Just the guy?

Justin Min, yes. So he's a contestant on the new season, but he's also, like you know him from movies that you've seen. Like if you scroll up, like he was in beef. He, Oh, umbrella academy, a whole bunch of stuff.

He's an umbrella academy. That's the more recent one. It was like, oh, yeah, umbrella academy. I know that, dude. He did a voice in that,

Wolverine podcast, which I really like. That was awesome, by the way. I don't know if you heard that. Have you heard that? No. Oh,

the Wastlanders thing is so good. I mean, I was obviously brought in by the Wastlander part. but it's all like you know kind of old man logan style stuff it's real good oh love that um yeah this guy's american i think yeah oh there it is yeah american actor so is he like a brilliant dude or something got some kind of whack a brain that he's he's uh also brilliant uh went to cornell uh you know has a has a some advanced degree it's just crazy like they come in and it's like the first thing

they show you is here's what you know them for oh newscaster or uh you YouTube star or DJ, and then they say, and also he has, you know, this amazing, he's a biochemical engineer from the Korean MIT, basically. Is it all in Korean or they mix it up? It's all in Korean. Except for that guy who speaks a little bit of Korean, but mostly speaks English, and everybody else is able to understand. And sometimes they respond in English and other times they respond in Korean.

It says on his profile, it says he's fluent, but it's curious that he goes back and forth on a show that is essentially Korean. Yeah, it is for me a total subtitle thing. And yeah, there is a dub. I haven't listened to the dub to see how it is. But the explanations of these games, it takes them about eight minutes to explain how the rules of all these games that they're going to play. Well, and this person is going to have this advantage. And then this person is going to have this. And this random draw will determine who gets this thing and this other thing.

It's like, oh, my God, I feel like Scott listening to someone explain a big heavy cardboard game. Yeah. No kidding. I hate those rules. So, is this a reality style competition? It is a reality competition. So 14 players trapped in a house. And I'm still on the first episode.

But the first season was really, really good. There's something about the main screen that looked like it was maybe scripted, but I, or not main screen, the trailer. But I guess that's just, that's real people hanging out doing real stuff. That's real people hanging out doing real stuff. And, of course, there's, you know, some cheeseball guy working behind the scenes who's the, you know, controlling all the games. And he's got like this weird mask with LED lights on it and stuff.

So I found the Spanish poster. That's the guy. El Planned del Diablo. I love it. Plan de Diablo. So this is like, does the screen change if he's mad or happy? I've only seen that screen on his face, so he's not using his LED screen to its fullest capabilities. Kind of a sucker for the LED mask.

I don't know why I like that. Something about it. Yeah, I'd wear that every Halloween. Well, that's great. For sure. Anyway, so there you go. A little Tuesday recommendal for you. Check it up.

Yeah, a quickie recommendal. Uh, we got a, we got a text from Tintin, the, uh, Tintin, the comic character from France. I believe so. Is it France? Yes. I think so. Was he, was it France? I think it was, or Belgium. I think Belgium. Those Belgians get weird when we prescribe their shit to France. So we, you know, we have to be careful. Uh, anyway, big cottage cheese from, uh, Tintin is what he says.

Okay. Uh, for whatever reason, I'm getting a lot of hood cottage cheese ads inserted into the TMS podcast. it's gotten to the point where I'm being driven insane. What's going on here? I'm tired of big cottage cheese telling me how to run my life, smiley face. Well, here's what I would do. Two things. One, you subscribe to our Patreon.

You never get any ads ever again. Perfect example or a good for solution. Yeah, but number two, those ads, I don't handle those. Those are done depending on where you live. So there must be something about where you live that has a big connection to wanting to push the cottage cheese. cottage cheese yeah yeah because here locally like if i'll listen to one of my shows on the public feed i might hear something for like a local car dealership sometimes so it's that specific sometimes you get national stuff most of the time it's like oh they live in this region therefore we'll do a regional whatever these

are all dynamic inserts so the way you get away from those just like uh you know uh let's call it Netflix's free tier versus oh they don't really have a free tier their ad tier still cost you money which is lame so this is not a good comparison back when Freecock and Peacock existed, right, before they got rid of the free part. Freecock meant commercials. Peacock meant no. So that's all we're saying. And guess how cheap we are? Bottom of the barrel cheap.

Exactly. Cheaper than all of those other options. It's like 16 to 18 episodes a month for what? Two bucks or something? Two bucks. Yeah. I mean, please feel free to, if you feel that's too cheap, feel free to contribute more. We won't argue.

Oh, yeah. We have higher levels and we're happy to have you in those. And if enough people pay for those higher levels, then guess what? You guys don't have to wait for Nerdtacular to get a Frog Pants All-Stars. You get it as a show. Exactly. So, yeah, forget about cottage cheese forever. And the rest of your life, you don't have to deal with it.

Jody has questions. Let's find out what those are in this call. Good morning, gentlemen. A couple things. First, you have to look up the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins by Leonard Nimoy. It is a real thing, and it is out there. Second, Brian, what is with the weird steel? spider just randomly hanging out there on 470 between Arvada and Golden.

What is up with that? I just can't wrap my brain around that. Love the show, though, guys. All right, let's get the Bilbo Baggins thing out of the way. That is a very, very old video that I feel like the world has seen, but maybe some people haven't seen before. Billbo, Bill Bowgins, do-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-haust hobbit of them all. Yeah, that's classic.

That whole album of Nimoy's music is. great he you know if i had a hammer i'd hammer in the morning like he does covers and stuff it's great yeah yeah so i've but to the spider thing i don't know what he's talking about you got you have a sculpture i don't either so a giant spider sculpture between on c470 between arvada and golden is what he said yeah yeah uh i don't know let me let me think about 470 like you can't 470 um 470 stops when you get to golden doesn't go doesn't continue or arvada so i'm trying to think if he means highway 93 i can't think of any spiders along there oh dude take a picture or something because i i can't can't uh visualized what you're

what you're talking about i did a search for um spiders outside of arvae Arvada and it gave me this. I don't know if this is it. Look at that crazy thing. Where is, so is that, scroll down to that big picture there? Let's go to, let's see, which one, this one? No. Does that look familiar?

Sydney, nope. That's not even here. Or I mean, in the States. Is this one maybe? No, it's Meow Wolf. That doesn't count. Nope, and that's the one in Santa Fe has that one. So when I do an Arvada search, that's all I get is this either one from Sydney or these

other minor ones. Yeah, same here. I mean, that's nasty. Yeah, no, that's disturbing. I don't like it at all. Sinewy, like, ugh, no. That's a horror movie waiting to come alive and kill us. I don't like that.

Let's see if there's, let's see if Golden, Colorado brings up anything. Yeah. No, same, brings up same. I'll see Golden. for a while there were some on i25 north by like fort collins way up north but um those were like you know made from construction uh stuff like construction like um construction materials like i beams and more like a steel sculpture of older yeah like the like the hand thing like found found uh found materials kind of stuff like that guy the gun from all

stars yeah yeah yeah there you go exactly love that stuff um so yeah no I don't know uh I don't know the spider sculpture of which you speak but please let us know more and I'll I'll figure out what you're talking about I looked up golden and I found a spider called the Australian golden orb weaver that I would probably throw against the wall if this was on my hand I know I'm holding that yeah yeah if that noise

it says it's gentle but Yeah, orb weavers are typically just the ones that make those really cool, intricate webs and, you know, on your porches and stuff. But I would not. Wow, that thing is sitting in my hand. I don't like orb weavers. No, thank you. Yeah, these are nasty. All right.

Sad I went to that image. All right. Another call from Terry Z on how the president works. Hey, Sarden Board of TMS fame. It's Terry Z. Last week you talked about Alcatraz. Well, I was told that WLRN TV, a public station that serves all of South Florida, including West Palm Beach, on Saturday, May 3rd at 9 p.m. was showing the 1979 Clint Eastwood film Escape from Alcatraz. Minutes later, the president suggested that Alcatraz be reopened as a prison again. If you want to reach the president, just be on TV. After all, at least 23-5. personalities have been hired to work in the current administration worked for them love of the show though interesting take yeah might be there might be something to it might be something to it yeah i would have for me the rock would get me excited but more than escape from alcatraz

yeah and also i forgot that did he say clean eastwood or sean connery he said clean eastwood didn't he oh did he i think so i don't remember but Sean Connery wasn't in that. Hold on. He wasn't an escape from Alcatraz. Yeah, that's what I was trying to see is if he returned there for a second movie. Yeah, that's a Clint Eastwood deal. That's a film sack movie waiting to be watched. For sure. Oh, yeah. Escape from Alcatraz, for sure.

Yeah, 1979. Oh, man, Don Siegel directed. We got to watch that. With that horrible-looking sculpture that he has to make to put in the bed with eight hairs sticking out of it. Yep. Fred Ward's in that. Oh, no, we didn't. We did. Ambassador Domo, we did not. We, oh, Rainbow Bright says we also, we did. No. Hold on. I have to prove this out. I can't stand it. Escape from. Holy shit, we did back in 2015. 248. Yeah, episode 248.

I remember nothing. Yeah, that was 10 years ago. How could we be expected to remember that? How do I remember? How do I not remember a thing about that, though? I don't remember a thing. Oh, my gosh. That's nuts. All right. You know what?

I should have learned this lesson years ago. I don't know why I keep like, you know, pretending there's a thing we haven't seen and then being shocked when someone points it out. I should just go, oh, did we see that? Okay. And move on. For sure. My lord.

All right. I love it. I was fully with you. I was, yeah. I'm kidding. I just seemed like a thing we had not. done. All right, we got a request or Brian's got a request. This is a me request. So, Jamie, TMS mashups, I printed a thing for him, like a little tire, a miniature tire rack holder,

long story, but somehow forgot to put all the parts in that he needed. I put all the screws and you think when I'm counting the screws to put in there, I'd count the pieces that need to be screwed in. So it's missing a couple of these little tiny sticks. Now, I can, print the i printed these here and i can ship them to jamie and it's going to cost me 26 bucks or if there's somebody out there in canada um who i can pay for the resin and the postage and i can send them the stil to print these little tiny two of these little tiny sticks um what the what do they are they just like support a post or something these are cross beams for the tire rack okay yeah all right yeah miniature tire i'm so curious the miniature tire rack yeah it's a little bike

Like a little tiny bike or something? Like car tires. There's some inside joke that he's got with, I think, his son, and he needed a tire rack printed for that inside joke. Got it. And so when I saw him in Vegas, I was like, oh, I'm seeing you in Vegas. I'll bring all the parts there.

Gave him a nice little padded envelope with what I thought were all the parts. And somehow, somehow I did not print enough. of these crossbeams. Well, it wasn't like you were busy before TMS Vegas, you know. It's not like you had other stuff on your mind. That's a good point. Yeah. I think that was probably it.

So is anyone out there up there that wants to help out? Let Brian know. Send us a DM. Yeah, DM me on Discord or send an email to CoverVillagel.com or whatever. Let me know. And I'll treat you right for doing this. Since Shane Maddox just entered the chat, I would like to say something, a story that's about him.

All right. This happened. two days ago. Dylan was at the house. We were here for Mother's Day. My wife's, sorry, my daughter's husband, Dylan, father of my little grandbabies. He's awesome. Love Dylan, good guy. For whatever reason, he and Shane have gone through the exact doppelganger process of what they used to look like. They looked identical. That is to say, before they shaved their heads and grew beards. And now with their head shaved and beards and glasses on, they're They're identical now. Really? Really? And his dad is named Shane, which is hilarious to me. Weird.

Okay. So anyway, super, super like, you know, and I'll show you, I'll show you one of these images that I sent them. See if I can find it real quick here. There it is. Okay. So I send this to the group. This is a shot of Shane in a suit coat, the concert night of TMS Vegas. Here he is.

Oh, yeah. Did a little side shot. I did this on purpose because I wanted to share it with Dylan. So we have the families together I finally see Dylan and I go all right Come here for a second I need you to look at this

And I said I don't know how you did it But you were in Las Vegas this week And I was kidding of course Obviously it wasn't in Vegas He was home But I showed him this And for a hot second

He told me he like Kind of literally questioned his His reality He was like He goes That's me And I go I know that's the point

You guys look alike And it took him a second to kind of snap out of it and realize that I was just showing him a dude that looks just like Shane. So there you have it. Do you have a picture of Dylan that we can put up side by side? I think so. That's what I was just scrolling for. Let's see.

It's a lot of kids in here. Kids, kids, kids, babies. This shot doesn't work because he's wearing a hat, but it'll still give you the idea. It'll still, you'll see enough of it to think, well, if this was Shane in a hat, that could be him. Yeah, okay. I can see that. Take that hat off. He's bald under that shave, got the same beard. They're doppelgangers. So, Shane, good job. You did it.

Freaked everybody out here on the ground. All right, enough of that. It's rare that people's doppelgangers are this closely tied to one another. Usually it's opposite ends of the globe, but to have both of both doppelgangers connected to you is crazy. Yeah, it's weird. And his dad's name, Shane, just really threw me. It's like, holy crap. How close can it be?

Adds to the wackiness. All right. So, again, to hammer home the point, Canadian 3D resin printer people, contact Ryan. DM me, yes. Yeah, slide into his DMs. Okay, that's right. Get in there. All right, that's going to do it for that.

Let's get some news done. It's time for the news brought to you by. Brought you by Film Sack. We may not remember every movie, but we remember G.I. Joe, the Rise of Cobra. Was it fun? Yeah. Was it great cinema? No.

But we had a great time. Check it out where you get your podcast at film sac.com. Very nice. All right. Brian, I don't know if you've heard about this trend, but men are shaving their eyelashes. No,

and that's dumb. Just dumb. I agree. It's dumb. I agree. Come on now. Brian and I are in a full agreement on this. Yeah,

no, they're there to help protect you, keep contaminants and particulates and other elits out of your eyes. okay these we have them for a reason yeah evolutionarily speaking they came about for a reason and uh it's a bummer for those like alopecia folks who can't grow eyelashes that's actually a problem for them they got to do way more i um go what's it called drops all that yeah so you want them but anyway this is a thing and we now have an answer as to why this is going on uh from stopping dust and grit getting into the eye to prompting your blink reflex oh i didn't know that

that's interesting right let me think about that i'm blinking now am i reflexing what am i doing prompting your blink blink blink reflex i mean maybe that's because something hits it then you i mean you guess yeah that's exactly like that's probably what it does like if you feel something touching your eyelashes even if you don't see it you're it'll trigger your blink yeah that must be it we have right now so we had it's finally stopped but we had two days of the windiest spring weather i've ever seen we're about to get that here yeah so crazy and it was warm and nice out but just just blowing and so our air quality is in the way

red right now not because of pollution it's from dust um pollen you know just shit getting all stirred up in the valley anyway long and the short of it is uh I want my eyelashes during these these hard times you know yeah well anyway it says here uh they do more than look pretty which makes it hard to explain the social media trend of men trimming them down or even entirely shaving them off.

Their eyelashes in a bid to look more masculine. Look a little more manly, you know? Yeah. I don't know, man. Well, baby has eyelashes and baby's not masculine. So therefore, I mean, if they're way out here, if they're like, if they're like an inch long, okay, fine, but no one has those. Nobody has those.

No, no, they're like Van has beautiful eyelashes and he better never shave them. they're lovely but anyway videos posted on tic-tock instagram and x in recent weeks has shown men braving blades very close to their eyes in barbers shops from turkey to new zealand and a quest for stubby lashes while some barbers are seen wielding buzzing electric clippers others are freestyling it with a pair of scissors hoping for a steady hand oh god that just gives me the chills any of that stuff near my eyeball freaks me out i was really hoping there'd be photos in this uh yeah me too too, let's see.

In this thing, this article. Maybe there's a shave eye lashes. Let's see if we can find something. Let's see if we can freak ourselves out even more. Let's see how masculine the people look with their eyelashes shaved off. All right. I think I found a YouTube channel that some news thing. Let's see what they say.

There are people shaving off their eyelashes? Also, how to apply rouge so it doesn't look like you've been hitting the face. Oh, man, news anchor makeup is a beast. Yeah. All right, scroll forward here. Let's see. I'm just trying to, oh, there's a big eyeball. Yeah.

Trying to get to wear. Oh, geez. He's doing the other one? Do you the other one? I don't like it. Nope. No, sorry, I don't. Not into it.

Anyway, there's what doctors are saying. Eyelashes are both vital. and for both personal experience and eye health says Vicki Lee visual experience. Sorry, not personal. I don't know why I said that. She's a consultant ophthalmallic I'm not saying that right.

Opthalmic. Opthalmic. Aphthalmic. Aphthalmick. Yeah. Anyway. I mean, I know ophthalmologist. I'm just trying to shorten, I'm just trying to put fewer syllables in there. Uphalmic.

Uphalmic. Well, it's not bad now that you say it. It sounds like a kind of oil I get at the at the olive garden. Don't touch your eye, Scott. I know, I just did it. It's all out of habit. Ah, shit.

Octoplastic surgery, the Imperial College of London in an email interview says, as well as acting as a barrier and a trigger for the protective blink reflex. Eyelashes help reduce airflow over the eyes, maintaining moisture, keeping the eyes healthy and comfortable,

filtering intense sunlight, reducing glare and improving visual quality. Bottom line is, do not cut your eyelashes. Yeah. I don't think they make you look manly. I think they make you like a dumbass is what they do. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

I don't even notice people's eyelashes. So to say that, oh, well, he's way more of a manly man because he doesn't have any is just ridiculous. Also, so I know we live in a time where at any given moment, you can go on your little podcast app and find some hyper toxic masculine podcast of some sort somewhere. Sure. And then it's those guys that are going, know, what you need to do is it. inject some protein right in your butthole and then go shave your eyelashes like all i know that stuff happens i know that young men are susceptible to this sort of thing and this kind of influence i get it i get it i get it but try to avoid that shit it's not good for you not just the eyelashes

but all of it all right don't be toxic and horrible be nice and cool exactly um let's see cutting or trimming eyelashes by the way can cause a bunch of discomfort in its own right irritation can leave sharp stubby things i was gonna say probably even like lead to infection if you if you do it wrong plus i think though mine would curl up a little before they'd grow out my hair my other hair does that oh yeah yeah and so it'd be like constantly poking your yeah poking your eyelid yeah f that shit yeah you know i don't want that uh if anyone out there does this and thinks that we're wrong i'd love to hear your hot take in the uh a text or a voicemail so we let us know if you If you at home, practice eyelash trimming and try to sell me and Brian on why you think it's great.

Exactly. If you're a woman who finds that way more attractive and says, oh, no, I want my men's eyelids to be clean and smooth and hairfree. I hadn't even thought of that. Yes. Can we get a woman's, let's get a woman's opinion. Perspective. Yeah. From someone who thinks that's cool.

Right. Because I assume the reason you want to look more. I don't imagine there's anybody in our in our circle. Anyone listening to our voices that would say, oh, yeah, no, I prefer it. I prefer my men to not have long eyelashes because I want them to look more masculine. See, and I'll bet you those women, A, don't exist. And B, this is the problem. They've been told this exists by people who are toxic shitheads.

So they've been told, hey, if you want a girlfriend, maybe shave your eyelat. Like, the girls don't want this. Yeah. Or the men if you're gay. No, exactly. Right, exactly. It doesn't matter. In fact, I'll bet if I was gay, I'd like your eyelashes, Brian.

I'd be into it if I was gay. You know what? They're thick and luxurious and they keep dust out of my eyes, which is also very, very masculine. Well, you know, I think surviving and being healthy is a good masculine trait. So, yeah. Well, yes, exactly. Lack of infections, eye infections. also very

very masculine it turns out why are people so afraid of gay it feels like every decision made by you know folks in the White House these days is the fear of gay it's all the fear of gay them gays that's what the gays are going to do

geez do you want to stop being afraid of gay let me ask you this do you want a happy meal at all I mean I'd like my meal to be happy I don't necessarily want the the thing that comes in a box unless there's some cool Thunderbolts toy in there.

Well, here's the bad news for anyone. Under the age of 21. Fairfax, is that Colorado or County? Sorry, Fairfax County, Virginia now has a 21 or older policy if you want to eat inside the McDonald's. It's like a casino. It's like going to the circuit for lunch. And eating into McDonald's. Yep.

Weird, right? So let's find out why they did it. Yeah. It's lunchtime, says you're hungry. ready for a nice, juicy burger. Have you been to McDonald's in a while? You're going to call that a juicy burger? Even the word burger in that sentence is suspect,

let alone nice and juicy. Not correct phrasing at all. But anyway, some hot fries. Sure, they could be hot, I guess. Anyway, you head to a location in Franconia area in Fairfax County, Virginia. That's when you'll notice the doorbell. And a sign explain it. They are asking you to ring it before going inside.

It's part of a new policy at the location, stating that any customer who wants to eat inside must be 21 years or older. Video obtained by News 4 shows a melee inside the location last week. So this is the reason. Really? This is why they started this. Okay. People are fighting. The McDonald's down the street and Thomas Edison High School, workers inside said young people.

Those young people. Those young people. Rablerousers. Rabble. Including some from the school have been seen fighting and standing on tables and heard cursing in the video. Well, where's Mayor where's a, um, yeah, the Mayor McCheese should be putting a stop to this.

Yeah, he should be passing legislation and then Big Mac hard hat mac or whatever's name is. What's the Big Mac cop guy? Mac, oh, Big Mac, uh, Officer Big Mac. Where's he? What's he doing? Out chasing around the hamburger, gerbil, gerbil, gerbil, or whatever you say. Rappel, rabble, rabble, rabble, yeah. Hold that, let's see. I'm on the page now and I'm hoping they're going to show

video of the, uh, the melee. The fracas. I want to see the fracas. I love a fracas. Hold on. Yeah. Who does it? Is it in there?

I want to show it. So far, I'm 22 seconds in, and they're just talking about, they're just showing a map of the, now there's a guy walking around outside. Okay. Dominique Moody, walking around outside, talking about the McDonald's. He's going to show us the doorbell. So you have to ring, like, to eat inside the McDonald's. You've got to go through the process of ringing the doorbell. Oh, they blur it out. Oh, it's because they're minors. That's why.

Yeah. There it is. But you found the video. Yeah, it's real short here. Watch this. Man, this player sucks. Built in players. Oh, geez. See, look at that. There's. Yeah. You can see enough of it to see. I mean, you know, high school kids fighting in it. We used to do this at a D's. We didn't fight, but we'd make a bit of a ruckus while we were in there. Sure. Yeah.

I don't know about the 21 and older, maybe 18 and older, because. Or just say that, I don't know what you do. What do you do if you're this location? And it's a problem. Because it says, because they claim it's repeated incidents of student disruption. Really? Yeah, what would you do? Fewer in charge. Would you say, I own this location and I'm.

It just feels like such a baby bathwater kind of reaction. I don't know. You know what? I would talk to the school and say, maybe time to enforce a closed campus and not, you know, not let the kids go across the street to McDonald's for their lunch hour. There you go. Put it on the school. You know, what's class like? My class is bad over there?

Or do they have enough extracurricular activities to get their energy out so that they don't come to the freaking thing at lunch and beat the shit out of each other, you know? Yeah. I mean, BioCow says the doorbell costs less than security. Yeah, but I mean, now how many people are going to be like, you know, let's just go over the Burger King. I don't want to deal with a hassle of having to ring a doorbell to go and eat inside that McDonald's. Yeah, and how secure really is it? right i mean if they're taking id

i guess they'd have to take it well i mean they're probably oh you're you're one to like do they actually check your ID i imagine it's just like you don't look like a high school student come on in i don't think they're actually going to look at somebody's idea and say yeah you're 21 just barely made the cutoff welcome mcdonald yeah what can i what can i get you yeah uh well anyway we'll see how it goes oh they and they were for a while that they were temporarily closed for that uh completely and now

They say temporarily closed for dine-in service to 21-21 or of ages or older. So maybe the idea is for now you just have a little rule. You see how it goes. You let things calm down. Right, right. Kids get it in their heads that, well, we cause this. I can't get my Big Macs anymore. And then maybe they'll chill and they can open it up again.

I remember there were places in Old Town, Arvada, like there was a bookstore that had a sign no more than two students. in the bookstore at any given time. It was probably because there was, you know, a lot of theft and stuff like that. I remember, you know, there was pretty much like, all right, you're a high school student. We've already got two of them in here.

You've got to wait outside until one of them leaves. So, you know, that's something. Maybe you say only two high school students at a time in this McDonald's. You got to wait for one of them to leave. Do you ever have, I guess you were there early in the mornings and stuff, but when you were at Taco Bell, do you ever have a fight breakout in the lobby? or anything?

Never. Yeah, never. I never did. I didn't. I didn't. The places I've worked, I never had that either. Never saw this. No.

We live in these, you know, boring, predominantly white. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we were, right. You know, maybe if I was in a Taco Bell in Aurora or Commerce City or Brighton or something like that, then, you know, maybe. But, yeah, not in Nevada. not in I tell you I watched the guy

drop his mega hat into his catch up once this is years ago nice we're talking about on the show I don't remember

you bringing this I don't remember hearing about on the show I think I was trying to avoid the freak out or just the politics

yeah so and I'll do that again here we'll avoid the politics of it this guy's wearing a red mega hat and for those kids who don't know what mega means well you can just go

look that up somewhere but it fell off into his ketchup and I watched him for oh this just was red Yeah, well, that's true. It's a good point, but it was on, like, part of the logo or part of the white text got on there.

So he's, like, scrubbing it off with his, like, the edge of his shirt. It was great. It's good stuff. Oh, that's great. It was good stuff. Here's another story for you. This is about betting, so let's get our Vegas on, our Vegas hats on for this. Sure.

Online betters spent over $40 million, sorry, $40 million, gambling on the identity of the next Pope. Mitzula may weigh in on this after we've talked about it. I don't know. Yeah. Let's see, one winner made $52,000 on a long shot. I guess the American Chicago guy was a long shot. He was a super long shot. We even talked about on the show.

He said, oh, there's even an American, but there's, you know, no chance of him becoming the next pope. And less than an hour after I said that, the American became the next pope. He did red, white, and blue smoke that day. America. Anyway, betters poured more than $40 million into the most recent. papal conclave on just two prediction market platforms over 30 million on polymarket don't know what that is that sounds like a place to i'm a draft king's guy draft king's fan duel for a while i was on a bunch of these just to do that whole like if you bet on the same thing and you do this bit over on

this one and this other one then no matter what happens you're going to win money do you know did you use calichna sorry never heard of either of these polymarket or calcci yeah yeah yeah i want to go game of thrones and say calisi for some reason anyway going into the conclave the new pope leo the 14th yeah yeah formerly cardinal robert prevoast previsb the pope bob the pope bob the pope do you know a prevost or a previs how do they like to say their name not that it matters to him anymore he's a provost i think is what i've been hearing them say on the news prevost okay Anyway, he had odds of less than 1% according to the Kalshi's website. Over the 33,000 conclave trades placed on Kalshi, just 416 trades totaling $450,000 were placed on Prevost of the spokesman.

The highest amount on the platform is $52,641 on a $526 bet. Again, somebody's betting $526 just on the American Pope. That's a lot of money. That's a lot, dude. I mean, what's the highest you put down on, like, craps or anything? Any bet, oh, see, craps is a tough one because I'll always start out with a $10 bet on the pass line, then a numbers rolled. Then I put another $10 on the odds, and then another number is rolled. I'll put money on the come bet.

So, like, the most I'll have going at any given time if I follow my regular rules is $10, $30, $30, $50, $60, $70, $70, $80. I'll have 80 bucks out there at a given time if all the the circumstances are correct and I get three come bets out with odds. But as far as like on a bet I've placed online, I know, I just do one. Well, Kishu or KL Chu, I-Cor, if it's a $5 minimum table, I'll do two times odds.

I'll do $5 pass line in, $10. I'm a cheap better, I-Corps. That's really where I'm at. You're not just cheap, though, because I don't think that's fair, but I think Brian is not cheap. He is. I'm conservative on my, on my craps. Yes, and you think, you know the rules, you think ahead, you have strategies. You're not just going in there, like some drunk guy going, put that $400,000. Woo! Come on, seven or whatever. You're not that. Right. No, I'm definitely not that. But as far as, like, on a draft Kings or Fanduel, the most I've ever put on a single game

maybe 20 bucks maybe okay I can't even think of what that might have been $10 okay a little more common $5 dollars way more frequently I'll do yeah five bucks on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl or five bucks on

the mammoth to win or whatever This is literally the opposite of a gambling problem Yeah right it's really That I have a profit problem because even if I If I win my gambling bets, I'm only winning two or three bucks.

Right. It's really, yeah. Right. But you literally, the point is you could quit any time. You're not one of those guys. It's like, I have to do it. As a matter of fact, I mean, the last bet I put on any app was the last mammoth game, which was in February, I believe, maybe March, March.

Yeah. Can you, I mean, you can bet on anything, right? That's the deal. the world. There's a bet somewhere somebody's taking bets for. Yes. Yes and no. Like, you know, some things where the outcome, that kind of surprises me with the conclave,

being able to bet on that because somebody could, if they have insight information, if they're a cardinal and know who's likely to win the vote, not like they're going to say, hold on, let me pull up a fan do a really quick in the place of bed before we do another vote. Father Grito, Cardinal Grito Sarducci, by the way, is who that was. But, but yeah, I mean, you know, right now,

obviously lots of NBA finals bets, NHL finals bets, baseball is in full swing, so there's all that. It seems like there's always UFC fights you can bet on. And this is why the conclives in

not secret, I mean, in exclusion, right? They have to give up their phones nobody has phones in there you can't i don't know if that's the only reason but it's one of the reasons would be you don't want you know be tempted with corruption sure by betting on you know the fact that you're voting for the guy you're voting for or whatever yeah i mean you know that's an that's an unusual situation but there are other times where there are bets on things that somebody with inside information and and phone access could get away with you know really taking advantage of the situation i'm trying to think of a good example

example. I mean, it's not like Pete Rose betting on baseball because he never, he always bet on his team to win. He never bet to lose where he could throw the game kind of thing. A lot of people argue that's why he was mistreated because it was a... Yeah, because he bet on his team to win

and it wasn't a situation he could have had any effect on the outcome. But, you know, Pete Rose had other issues. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let's not we're not calling that dude a saint by any strength. But there are situations where you do kind of have, God, it seems like there's always examples of like,

well, yeah, Super Bowl or the big game, the championship NFC-AFC championship game, you can bet on what color the Gatorade is going to be that they dump on the coach at the end. And somebody easily would have insight information on that because they provide the Gatorade or they see, Oh, these guys just ordered 25 gallons of orange Gatorade from my company. I guess that's what they're going to be using.

Great, I've got insight information. So, you know, those things that you can bet on, there are people, I guess, what was the original question that prompted all this is that there are, you can bet on anything. And it seems like there are certain things that you can bet on that aren't left up to just the skill of the players that you're betting on and could have turnovers. Like, you can have insight information on that stuff. Yeah, the world fascinates me as far as how to manage it and maintain it and not have people cheat it. It's crazy to me.

Speaking of Guido Sarducci, here he is back in the day, right? Yep, yep. Old S&L desk there. And then here he is now. That's him. Oh, wow. He was just on Colbert the other day. Oh, cool.

Yeah, I like that guy. It was the comedian's name. John. Oh, I don't remember. I just remember as a kid. I would see him on S&L and go, Yeah. Take that church.

Right. There are a series of books called Letters from a Nut that if you've never read these, I wonder if you can read them online. Mary Martyr. No. Ted L. Nancy, is that it? Ted L. Nancy? Maybe it was a different game. guy there was a there was a um whoever the guy was that that played grito sarducci

i always assumed it was his real name shows what i know i always thought it was real not real but his name was really grito sarducci yeah i thought it's yeah i don't know why i thought that it's obviously not like you hear it now and i just laugh at it but at the time i was like what is the name of the actor holy crap let's got to find it here don novello crying that took a long time to find donnavello so he he wrote books. I guess I was confusing. There was one that he wrote that was similar to this other one called Letters from a Nut, but he wrote these

books where he this is like, you know, old punking folks, like before YouTube and all that stuff. He would write these letters to companies and get these hilarious responses and it was ridiculous stuff like, I bought a mirror from you guys

and the reflection is not me. It's somebody else and I don't understand what the deal is. Weird. Yeah, but look for him because they are hilarious. I just can't remember the names of him. What was his name again when he's not? Don Novello. I'm looking to see if I can find the names of those books.

Oh, here it is, the Lozlo letters. Nevello's first book of stilted letters to celebrities. That sounds great. This is actually what got him to be, I'm realizing this now, this is what actually got him to be hired as a writer for SNL in 1977. Wow. I forgot he wrote for him. I thought he just performed.

The Lozlo letters. All right, there we go. Oh, all right. Still out there. It's a long way to go for the Lozlo letters. Yeah, it was a long, long way to go. But that's fine, because we have a little bit more way to go before we get to our break. We're going to take one of those breaks.

We're going to come back with Amy. We're going to talk about books. And it's time to read this, everybody. All right. So come back after the song. Brian, you're going to have to tell us what the song is first. I'm going to tell you what that song is. It's a band called Hide and Shine.

That's not two things that you usually put together. You usually put hide and seek and rise and shine together, but these guys are mixing it up. It's crazy. They are putting out their second full-length album. It's called The Red Core, produced by Matt Wallace, who produced the music for Faith No More, Maroon 5, OAR, the Replacements, Train. This new album comes out Friday, June 20th. But this is the first song from the new album.

It's called Hemorrhage and Heel. Lots of Anns. Hemorrhage and Heel by Hide and Shine. Coming up right now on Indy and The Middle. Trying Oh Trying hard to stay with the blind. Aborance of change in design

Place the heaviest on the line into the star Fix the hemorrhagic love in his heart He steps into the lake Let's the water taken down into the memory The blackest depths of what was seen He steps into the lake Let's the water filter all the secrets out out means he never allowed

there I go into the maze again another cure for the state I have there I go into the maze again Another cure for the mess I've in Another day being dragged across the bones To the bottom where the question go Healed by fire

Heel by feather soft Never hurts until the plate He steps into the lake Let's the water take him down into the memory Like his steps of what was seen He steps into the lake Let's the water filter All the sickness out

Things he never allowed. There I go into the maze again. Another cure for the state I've been. There I go into the maze again. Another cure for the mess I've been. There I go into the maze again. Another cure of all the mess I've been. for the state I'm in

There I go into the place again Another cure for the mess I've in Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah My goal in life is to have my own religion. Now let's put some yo back in Joe! and we're back who was that one more time that is the band hide and shine from their upcoming album the red core that's the song hemorrhage and heel sounds painful it does it sounds like it would hurt all right uh we're gonna get our old pal amy in here getting her done uh hold on here red frats whoops red fraggle there go okay we're adding her now and uh we're going to talk about reading stuff it's good to be educated

it's good to read it's good to uh be entertained all those things are important very much so and uh somewhere is her thing here it is one of the things that i enjoy also is reading ladies and gentlemen join us now and welcoming amy to the program hello amy robinson how the heck are you oh hello friends how are you you sound so much better how are you How are you feeling? I would say, based on your normal scale, I think I'm probably about 65 to 70%. Okay. That's not bad.

So, yeah, like not great, but I'm on the up swing. It's definitely better than, you know, last Sunday when I had to go to the ER because I was having, like, it was chest pain, but it was just because. the COVID was making me cough so much and it caused pleuracy which is basically inflammation of the insides of your lungs but yeah that was

not the most fun way to spend a Sunday but very glad of all the outcome of everything sure but you and Chuck man I just felt like you guys got the brunt of it you know we did man we just got hammered with it it was like it's like you said I think

I think I showed up with like a sinus infection because literally all I had was like a little bit of a scratchy throat and not and some low energy but I was like I'm okay and then so I came with that and left with COVID which no thank you I will not be doing that again no yeah yeah no let's let's not take anything home from Vegas let's leave it all there yeah no no by the way that the ER doc made that joke. He's like, so what happened in Vegas? Didn't stay in Vegas, huh? And I was like, yep, that's true.

What are you going to say, Brian? Yeah, you got to say, you got to appreciate the shirt you're wearing, Amy. I know Chuck, when we started the show today, say, hey, I have that shirt. And then immediately said, I'm going to put it on Amy. Look at this. Yes. Twinter. It was true. It was your

idea, actually. Well, yeah. So what he did was he came in and he said, make sure during your segment to mention to Brian, that when we're out someplace together, you know, like a nerdtacular or whatever, if he's going to bring that shirt, let me know so that I can bring mine. And I said, well, I'll do you one better. I'll just put yours on.

How about that? That's awesome. This is one of my favorite shirts. So there's a very good chance at some event that Chuck and I are going to be wearing the same shirt. It's a great shirt. I actually have some of my Roosevelt shirts also. but um you know they're minor minor different ones we have different ones did you ever end up getting the the fraggle rock one that had no i'm so mad

so so quick it was like they didn't make any like excel women's at all like i'm convinced because we were there like with our finger on the refresh button and chuck was able to get his no problem and then but like women's size xl nope for you. It was like they had smalls and mediums and that was it. And I'm convinced that like they didn't, Chuck says no, that they probably just sold out that quickly. But I say, nay, they didn't bother. And the reason I say that is because the ones that I have gotten after that, I haven't had a problem. Like I, you know, when I, because I emailed them and I said, hey, this is a little disappointing. like I really wanted to send you guys 80 bucks for a shirt and I couldn't because you didn't make any and you know and so then after that the next time they had one I think it was the the recent ones from Cartoon Network like I got the I got the Dexter's Lab one you know and because I oh my gosh I love Dexter's Lab.

Dexter's Lab was actually like one of the first things that wasn't an indicator. that I kind of wanted to be a voice actor because we were at a D&D game and at some point, like Dexter's lab came up in the conversation and there was this episode, it's actually timely because, you know, talking about me being sick and stuff. So there's an episode where Dede is sick, right? And Dexter's mom is like trying to get him to go in there

and like read her a story or something. And he says, Oh, I am not going anywhere near that German-infested sacrificial. cooties and I did that hopefully I didn't peak too much I tried to lean away you did good you did good well done but yeah so I did that pardon me that was not a good good idea turns out but anyway I did that at the game and like a bunch of my friends were like holy crap like that was really good yeah and I was like I should do that for a living yeah and I was like, I should. I should do that for a living. So anyway, but yeah, so I got, I got the Dexter's Lab shirt and, like, you can go on there and there are still women's Excel size Dexter's Lab shirts. But the Fraggle Rock ones, nope, they only had like two, you know. Limited production line. Yeah. So I'm waiting. I'm waiting hopefully, hopefully like the men bought enough of the Fraggle Rock one that they will make it come back around. Yeah. And I'll be able to get it.

I hope so. I mean, if anybody should have one, it feels like it should be you, right? Like it absolutely should be you. Yeah, you're too big of a fan girl not to have that stuff in your life. I know, right? I was like, and I even, when I wrote to them, I wrote to them from my red fraggle email address. I was like, ahem. Yeah, look at my.

Excuse me. You see my email here? Do you who said this? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's awesome. I love it. And I also love your shirts today.

You guys are great twinners. I love it. Everybody. Everybody say hi to Mama Fraggle. I know she was listening. Oh, your mom is listening? Hello, Mama Fragle. That's nice. Happy belated Mother's Day to your mom. Yeah, there you go. That's great. Well, let's get to these books. Our recommendations today. Oh, before we do, real quick, I know I think I mentioned this to Brian, but my nephew, I think of him as a nephew. That's how close we are. But this kid, he used to be in a class I used to teach. His name is Ethan. Ethan White. He just published.

his own book. He's a senior in high school. He lives in Pennsylvania now. They moved there a few years ago. And it's called Susquehannock. Oh, yeah. Wow. It's got this crazy freaking bird. I know, right? I think it's, you know, kind of like his, his foray into horror novel noveling is funny because his actual personality is kind of far from this, but I guess it kind of makes sense. We all have a little, a little demon in us or whatever. Anyway, I really love this kid, and I'm stoked for him. I don't know where this. is going to end up. I'll make sure to let people know, but I figured read this was a good place to talk about it. More on this soon, so you can maybe help support this kid.

Oh, yes, for sure. Going to go to college soon. And that segues well into mentioning, I don't, I, you know, I have to turn the sound off in between you calling me and, you know, the end of the last segment. But Hootie, 42, and his, and his lovely bride, they have, a bookshop out there in Utah and they are now sponsoring this segment and it's called the pumpkin cottage I believe and so from now on all of the links that are going to be on the quick TMSLI will go to bookshop.org for the pumpkin cottage and so that's like bookshop.org is a site where independent bookstores can go and then you can basically buy the book from them instead of like buying it from amazon or barns and noble or whoever and so it can you can still

purchase a book online but be benefiting an independent bookstore um and so of course we're very happy for uh for hooty for sure to have that benefit so the pumpkin cottage is sponsoring this segment from now on so yeah i think that's awesome i've been in that store it's right If you're ever in Springville, Utah, you need to go in there. It is. But if you don't, if you can't go in there, they do this online stuff. I'd love that they're going to tie it to this segment. It's a perfect, it's a perfect marriage.

It makes the most sense, yeah. And hopefully next year, there's a weekend or a week where he's going to get a ton of brand new visitors from around the country. Yeah. Yeah, right? We should all, like, it would be really funny because I have also been in there. It's a tiny little bookshop. He's going to have the sign that says no more than two tadpoolers.

was in here at a time. Yeah, like there's going to be a, we're going to have to queue outside, like, or something, you know, like, I think there are like nail salons in the same building or something. So maybe, like, a bunch of us can go get like a manny petty and then go book shopping afterwards or something. That's true, they have a, so though that whole entire part of that building, if I remember the way Houdie explained it to me and his wife explained it. But they're all women owned businesses and, yes, uh, really, really cool. I guess the person, the woman that owns the real estate and is like subbing out all. these leases is super into this idea of we want this like female headed all of it whatever these businesses are doesn't matter we just want women in charge and um that's why hooty is like very much

a secondary owner here because he's a dude if i can get my eyelashes shaved off in one of those places then then i can go out while we're waiting to i get into horrific and i don't understand why anybody wants to do it like i know i don't know my dad had like my dad had like ingrown eyelashes and he had to have, like, had them, like, quarterized or something like that, but it wasn't something he wanted to do. It was just like, you know, it was necessary because he was getting an ingrown eyelash. Yeah. And I think if you cut them, if you cut them, you have a higher chance of making those be ingrown problems. So don't trim them. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, any, any woman who is, you know, shaved things and gotten ingrown hairs in, like, armpits or

other places that are unpleasant to have in grown hairs can tell you it's not something you want I believe you're referring to the crotch right yes okay fair enough yes indeed well let's get to these books here you've got a couple of them we got one labeled one and one label two how do you want to talk about these what do we got here um so yeah so uh this is an interesting pair of books today you know I often will bring two books but they're usually kind of a bit of column A and a bit of column B. This time, these books are completely related to each other. And in fact, they are by the same author. It's just two different parts of her journey. And it is nonfiction. It's a memoir. So yeah. So let's go ahead and just start with number one.

It began with an itch, not a metaphorical itch to travel the world or some quarter life crisis. but a literal physical itch. A maddening claw at your skin keep you up at night itch that surfaced during my senior year of college, first on the tops of my feet and then moving up my calves and thighs. I tried to resist scratching,

but the itch was relentless, spreading across the surface of my skin like a thousand invisible mosquito bites. Without realizing what I was doing, my hand began meandering down my legs, my nails raking my jeans and searching, of relief before burrowing under the hem to sink directly into flesh. A scree of oozing nicks, thick scabs, and fresh scars soon marred my legs, as if they had been beaten with rose thistles,

bloody harbingers of a mounting struggle taking place inside of me. I need some cream or something after that. Yeah. No kidding. Dang, dude. Yeah. Unfortunately, it turned out she needed a whole lot more than cream. So this is from a book called Between Two Kingdoms by Suleka Joad. And I first learned about her when we were out in Utah. We were at the Enceica pottery conference. You know, we talked about this last month when I was on. And she was, she gave a keynote speech. And she has been through just a remarkable amount of struggle. Um, this woman had, she found out, you know, in her early 20s that she had leukemia. And so the book is, it's partially about, you know, her experience with like, this is how it started and this is how we figured out that this is what I had and all that, you know, all just the, the logistics of the story.

But then also it talks about her sort of going from being. this young adult who had her entire life ahead of her and was like, we, I'm going to go get myself an apartment in Paris. And I'm going to, you know, I've got my own place and I'm working and I'm doing it. And I'm got my own thing. And then all of a sudden she's deathly ill and she's moved back in with her parents and she's, you know, when she's not in the hospital, which is a lot of the time. and the form of leukemia that they had was like it just completely insidious it was it was

really really aggressive they gave her I think something like a 30% survival rate um so yeah and at one point she she does go into remission and then she sort of goes okay well what now you know like I was just getting started with my life and then it derailed and now I've got to put myself back in the world of, you know, well people, quote unquote. So that's the title between two kingdoms, right? It's about sort of how do you exist between these two worlds of, you know, the chronically or critically ill versus, you know, the healthy, normal people just going about their lives. right um which is a really really interesting view on it and um you can kind of hear in the audio clips that i i provided her that is actually her by the way it's not a narrator

that is her reading i was curious about that she sounds great like she's done that before it was really good yeah yeah her cadence however is very slow and it is very she her voice is lovely i was actually because we got to hear her speak before I even knew about her books. So I was extremely excited when I found out like, oh, cool, she narrated the book too. However, if you're prone to being a little too relaxed if you're listening to an audio book and potentially falling asleep, I would recommend taking this book on the page rather than that. Not because her voice is unpleasant, but quite the opposite. Like, you know, she's so soothing. Even And when she's talking about like, you know, oozing scabs, it's like a little too pleasant.

They're going to put you right to sleep. Nothing wrong with that, though. Right. Yeah. Right. So, but you can hear like her cadence is very, very slow. She's very measured in the way that she speaks. And, but her, her prose is lovely.

Like she, she really, she manages to paint a picture extremely well with very few, words. She does not waste any words. I'll put it that way. So yeah, so this is, that's the first book is called Between Two Kingdoms. So now we can go into the second one and you'll recognize the voice because it's the same author. Here we go. I had spent the better part of a year in and out of the hospital. My immune system was non-existent. Whenever I stepped out the door, I had to wear gloves and a mask. My doctors warned me that something as basic as a cold could be lethal. Being confined to a hospital bed, unable to do anything unassisted, even things as basic as taking a shower, sent me into a deep depression. I was unrecognizable to myself. I felt like my life

was over before it had even begun. But pulled me out of that despair was a hundred-day project in which you perform one creative act daily for 100 days, a sketch, a poem, a photograph, whatever medium calls to you. The point of their project is to use discipline as a vehicle for creative inspiration. It's easy to be energized when you're in the grip of a big idea. But what do you do when you don't have anything to work with? That's relatable, man. That right there. Right? Right.

And thus why I brought her stories to us. You know, of course, it's all, it's all something like we can all relate to, you know, we've all had someone in our lives who has been through some horrible illness or something like that. So we can all relate to that part of it. But what I found particularly moving and affecting about her story was how it related to art and creativity and how those. have been used as a vehicle for her to essentially keep going.

In the speech that she gave at Enceca, she actually talked about. So this all happens, this is her second round. So spoiler alert, the cancer comes back, unfortunately. So, you know, that the second bout is her, you know, in and out of the hospital, all, you know, prepping for bone marrow transplant, stuff like that, which if you don't know anything about bone marrow transplants, it's really, really unpleasant. Both for the donor and the recipient. I've done the donor thing. It was miserable and I hated it. And all I could think of was this is supposed to be like 10% of how it is for those receiving. Like what an awful. It's awful.

It's absolutely awful. In fact, we had, I went to high school with a kid who had leukemia and it was tragic because he passed away the night before graduation. So we had like a, we had a headmaster's brunch. It was like this, you know, traditional thing at my school where, you know, we, all the seniors got together and went to the headmaster's house for brunch or whatever. And I get there and everybody is super sad. And I was like, what's, why is everybody? so sad. And they said, oh, you know, Kirk died last night. I was like, oh, my God. You know, and he had, we had a bone marrow drive at school for him. Because even his mom, you know, there's like

six criteria to match for a bone marrow transplant. And like even his mom only matched him like three of the categories. So it was like, we were like trying really hard to find him a better match. Unfortunately, none of us did. So they went with his mom and it didn't work. But anyway, all of that is to say, you know, we can we can all imagine how it must feel to just be so ill or to be related to someone who is just so, so ill. You know, we've all, we've all, it's touched all of us, right? Whether it's be it cancer or any, you know, anything else. However, in this instance, I found it was really fascinating that her response to what was happening to her was, okay, well, let's dive into this creativity project, just so we

have something else to focus on, right? And her first, sorry, I just distracting bunch of freaks. Thank you, Talia. That was a very sweet thing you said. I am now minimizing the chat so that I will not be distracted anymore. That's what you have to do. You got to do it. They'll do that. They will do that to every chance they get. It just threw me because it was such a nice thing to say.

But anyway, so, you know, she started off, but her first love, creative-wise, was journaling. And so she actually, after her first round with leukemia, she started doing this weekly article, a weekly column in. in the New York Times. And she talked about that. And in Sika, also, she talked about how they reached out to her asking her to, you know, just write a piece, you know, write an essay. And she just very brazenly said, I'm not interested in writing an essay. If you want me, I will do a weekly piece. I will do a weekly column. And she was just amazed at how brazen that was. And the New York Times came back and said, done yes absolutely and so she was amazing she was like before i had had leukemia i would never have done that i would never have been so presumptuous but something about you know being on the

precipice of of death just gave her that like well i don't give an f like you know you can take this offer or leave it it's no skin off my nose because you know this is i'm dealing with with life or death stuff. So anyway, so her first love was in writing and journaling. And so when it came up that, you know, she was relapsing, she said, okay, well, you know what? I got through it last time by writing my way through it. I will write my way through it again. And then the particular cocktail of drugs that they had to use the next time around for

the chemo messed with her sight. and she, like, physically could not see. She couldn't see well enough to write or to blog or do anything, you know, as far as the written word was concerned. So that was devastating to her. She was like, well, crap, what am I going to do now? She could see well enough to where, you know, she could make out colors and whatnot. But, you know, she certainly couldn't read, write or anything like that. and so she turned instead to watercolors and another side effect of the meds she was on

was it was giving her these just horrible vivid surreal dreams and you know so she'd wake up and just need to download and process it but of course she doesn't have a journal anymore so instead she grabbed her watercolors and she would just paint what what she saw in her dreams and you know they started hanging them up in her hospital room and stuff and she said that the nurses and whatnot they would actually tell her that they'd spend a little bit longer in her room because they were so fascinated to see you know oh well what did we dream about last night you know and so it just it just really spoke to me and I found it very moving that she was able to go through this horrible experience that nobody wants to go through, right?

And nobody would judge her harshly if she wanted to just lay in bed and do as little as possible, right? Like nobody would judge anybody harshly for that, you know, going through two rounds of leukemia. but instead she she found it more healing and more therapeutic to dive into creativity. And I think that really speaks to the importance of having something like that, having something that we find beauty and joy in, you know, making or creating in some kind away and it can help us through while our body is physically healing. Obviously, we all know that stuff like that is good for our mental health. In this case, she did that 100-day project with her parents. And so her dad wrote, you know, like stories from his childhood. And interestingly

enough, they were from Tunisia. And the thing was a 100-day project, right? But he insisted as a nod to the Arabian nights in writing 101 instead, which I thought was great. And then her mom made every day she would paint a ceramic tile. And then when she was finished, she mounted them all into like the shape of a shield and then hung it over Seleka's bed as like kind of like a protective talisman kind of thing. And so, you know, just just them all kind of collectively agreeing like we're going to do this 100-day project in whatever, and it didn't matter. Whatever medium, whatever form it took didn't matter.

You know, they just jumped in and decided, we're going to do this together. And so creativity and art was a way for them to, you know, connect, find human connection as well. So, I don't know. It was all very powerful stuff to me anyway. Very cool. So I thought I'd share. No, that's very cool. Well, tell people the two titles again, so we send them in the right direction.

Yes. So the first book is called Between Two Kingdoms and the second book is called The Book of Alchemy, both written by Suleka Joad. I should also mention that the book of alchemy also, it goes into more of like the journaling side of things. And there are several essays by other books. other writers as well. Like, there's a lot of other writers who contributed to this. So it's not, it's not just, uh, more of Salaka's story. It's a lot of contributors who, uh, who, who put their two cents in. Well, I put in the, let's see, I'm not sure which one works better, the case sensitive one or not, but I put in the link that Hootie gave us earlier. And, uh, that should help us there in the chat, but also, uh, quickt ms. L I will have ways for you to go straight to, uh, the pumpkin cottage and get, get yourself some damn books. All right, everybody. Yes. Support those guys.

They're great. Well, there you go. Amy, always good having you on. Is anything else you want to mention before we send you on your way? Yeah. I'll shout out to my bestie, Stephanie Inna Pets. I sent you some pictures.

I wanted to share. These are fun. Look at this. Look at these two mermaid ladies. We both brought our mermaid tails and we had a ball in the pool. My favorite is Stephanie basically playing dead or like a dead fish in that first one. I know. That one cracked me up.

I was like, are you dead? Yeah. What's going on over there? I love it. Look at her. It's just like, they're face down. I didn't know either of you were doing this until I walked out to the pool one day. And I was like, there are mermaids in this pool. And then I went, oh my gosh, I know these mermaids. I know who the people are. That was pretty great. Yeah, that was so fun. That was a thing. I got turned on to that on the Joko cruise one year. And man, it's so much fun swimming with those tails and stuff. It's a lot. It is exhausting. It's a lot of work. But, um, but, um, but. but it's it's super fun and it's really good for like your abs and stuff. That's cool. I don't even know where you get at such a thing. Do you have to make it or what do you do? No, I mean, I bought mine on Amazon. Mine was from a company called Finn Fun.

And yeah, it's like they work and I hate that at the same time. They work exactly like, I know, right? I mean, you can't, you can't blame them, right? Like, I mean. Yeah, it makes sense that that would be the name. If you're going to have fun with fins, you may as well call it fin fun. I get it. Right.

And, you know, it works like just like regular swim fins, you know, like if you're going snorkeling or something. It's just that it's like one piece instead of two. So you just have to get used to instead of kicking your legs, you sort of, you know, undulate your whole body like a mermaid would. Yeah, like you do. So it's fun. Like you do. Well, that's awesome.

It is always great having you on. Can't wait to do this again. in roughly an Earth month or so. We'll see how things go with guest schedules, but I think that's about right. Amy, I hope by then you are well within the 100% range and that you keep feeling better soon.

Me too. I would like to, I mean, as much as like I enjoy the Kathleen Turner like after dark version of my voice, I would like to have my regular voice back. Well, make Chuck give you a lot of tea and stuff.

Make him work for it. There you go. All right? Yes. That bum. Thanks. Make him work for it. Yeah, make him work for it.

I don't know. what I'm saying to work for, and maybe I shouldn't say that. That's terrible. Hey, Brian, one quick thing on our way out the door. We had a message from an non-E mouse. That's how he spells it. I kind of like that pretty good. He says, hey, scoot and boot

on the pre-show recently, you were talking about drowning with your CPAP. We were talking about ways you could you know, there's recalls and turning the moisture level up too high and your CPAP can cause this problem apparently. And there was some recall from Phillips or something

Wasn't there a deal? Or am I thinking of something else? No, the recall was bits of bits of foam from the filter. Oh, that's what it was. Breathing into your body. Yeah. Even worse somehow, I guess?

Anyway. Yeah, I think so. It says, a friend of mine was prescribed CPAP with the tech set the, sorry, and the tech set the air pressure too high, and the first night he used it, it blew stomach acid from his stomach into his lungs, and he aspirated. He went to the hospital and he's all fine now.

There is a reason to end users cannot adjust those settings. so wow yeah geez yeah it's nasty they did show me how to get in there and adjust settings like hooking it up to uh with a USB uh connection but I'm not going to do it never going to do it nope let the text do it I don't know if they get is that give that doesn't give them well I don't know what the liability is like if you tweaked it yourself at home I guess that's on you right there you're not going to be able to complain to the to the people well anyway don't aspirate on things everybody that's bad news um don't you know don't mess with things. Thank you for that

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TMS. Brian, let's play a song and take us out. Yeah, sure. This was going out to another Brian. Brian, hopefully this is not too short notice. I'm hoping you can play the After Forever cover of Iron Maiden's the evil that men do. I'll be headed to my yearly pinball tournament and was hoping to enjoy a good cover

song on this trip. If you can't play the song, any cover of Iron Maiden's song would be fine. Sausage signed Brian. Nice. Should we do a sausage for him? We may as well. Oh, definitely give him a sausage. All right.

Here you go. Sausage. Did it feel longer to you that time? Absolutely. Every single time. It feels like something is extending that each time. Somebody told me once, I should be making different files and making. them slightly longer over time so that Brian just to mess with Brian I haven't done it but I could

but I haven't yes uh all right the evil that men do so yeah this is going out to Brian have fun at your pinball convention that's going to be so cool pinball tournament hope uh you get to play some cool stuff like that new X-Men game that some of us got to play at player one in Vegas very good good time yeah lots to do in there uh worth paying the extra money just to play that pinball machine outside of all the free stuff at Player 1. Totally worth it. This cover comes from the album Exordium, Disc 1 from 2004.

Here is After Forever, The Evil That Men Do. Love is a razor and I want that I want that silver blade Letting the dust with his daughter, her eyes read the slaughter of innocence. But I will pray for her, I will call her name out loud. I would plead for her if I could only see her now. Living on a reason's edge, balancing on an edge. Giving all the faces let you

That'll sing all I let you I'd rather sing all I let you Yeah I'm leaving on a face of an inch Vanishing all that let you know You know The evil dust matter lives on and on The evil that matter lives on and on

The evil that the adventure is on and on it all The evil that the adventure is on and on Circle of fire my baptism of joy at an end it seems The second glance lane is the book of life opens before me But I will pray for you And someday I may return Don't you cry for me Beyond is where I love

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People that matter is on it all. Oh, and I'm going to be. Oh. Oh. Oh. Maybe not a reason let's match Vanity modern edge Maybe not a reason that you know

The evil that matter is coming on People that measure is on and on People's that measure lives on and on Devil's that measure lives on and on Devil Deepo Deepo Those pants

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