The Morning Stream - TMS 2826: Mr. Beef

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Zoomie Fingers on the Feet. I like it thick and raised. Worst Cheshire Cat. Don't Be Nervous, I'm Just a Dork. Prepubescent Dentists. Isn't there a Hobbes type cat in Calvin and Hobbes? Hello Kitty with a Hard G. HBO did some backwards Maxing. Pocky Capy. Black Kyber Crystal Friday. I see registered people!! Wor-Chester-Shire Cat. The Focus of Hocus Pocus. Thinking in 2026 with Tom. Living on the Edge Recommentals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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All right then. Let's do something about it. The morning stream. Stir whip, whip, whip, whip, stir beat. Hello everybody and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, May 21st, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. And that is Brian Abbott. Good morning. That is me. That's right there is me. Let no one be fooled. Take no substitutes. It is Brian Nibbitt. That's right. Except no. Yeah. Unless it's Bobby for one day. It's fine. You can accept that. Well, he's not a substitute. He's Bobby. Like, you know, I don't, when we have somebody come in, I don't consider them to be a substitute. They are who they are. yep and uh yeah and let no one say other ones yeah let no one tear asunder or however the old

phrase goes right that's exactly what i said honestly was nearly there uh hey everybody we're glad to have you all here today with us uh we hope you're having a good wednesday i don't know how mine is yet it was tenuous it was cold it was hot last night so we were like you know going to sleep hot kind of sucks but we're not ready to turn the ac on because we know the weather's going to be weird again you could get something yeah it's May and the Rocky Mountain States could be anything. Yeah, it's unreliable. So we go to bed kind of hot, and then it got really cold in the night.

So I woke this morning going, I don't want to ever get out of this bed, not just today. I never want to leave the warmth of this bed. And, of course, you have to. Oh, really? Yeah, I was freezing this morning. I did something in my back. It might have been just the driving back and forth to Kansas City being, you know, Because we really only one break along the road, stopped in his each way.

Although, I didn't get back. We did stop, but a rest stop so that the ladies could pee. But I stayed in the front seat. I didn't get out to pee. I didn't get out of the car. I could have, and probably should have gotten out of the car and stood up and stretched my legs a little bit. Lower back, upper back, anywhere. Lower back.

And I also, so Scott had a decision. to make head decide do i want to switch to or do i need a replacement resin printer because i've been having some problems with my current six seven year old resin printer that is a large format resin printer does great did great stuff initially but has been having some problems lately where the quality of the prints really quickly degraded it happened while i was doing some prints for somebody. And so had some issues with that and said, you know what? All right. I think I'm going to just break down and get new one. Because I get a lot of

I get a lot of Etsy orders for those Khyber crystal holders. So I want to make sure that I can print those and not have to do reprints. It was coming out to about a 50% toss rate where half of the things would come out bad. And Mac addicts, because I've heard that the LCD screens have to be replaced. Very true. I did just replace the LCD screen thing on that one for three months or three months ago. And I don't think that's a problem because I looked at the, I looked at the quality, like basically get the light shining up through it and the, um, there's no artifacts or any problems there. I think it would, I think it might be the bright, super bright UV light that comes up through the LCD screen.

Yeah. And that's like that, when I found that, I was like a $250,300 part to replace. So those, those dim over time, they, they lose their. Lester. I think so, which is really weird because they're not fluorescent bulbs. They're, I think they're UV LEDs,

I think. But who knows? I think it is dimming because it did require, like I had a bunch of failing prints and then I digest all my settings just to get actual prints. That might be just true of LEDs in general and our eyes don't notice the degradation because it's not

that big a deal. But when you're talking about a print You need the light is part of the process. Maybe that's enough to be a problem. That's weird. Yeah. Silver Wisp MK says you might have better results from an FDM printer than resin. I mean, I have two FDM printers, a large format, Cobra Macs that does all the hard work.

But the things I'm printing, those Khyber Crystal holders just won't have the right quality to do on an FDM printer. I need the resin for that one. So, anyway, I broke down and I bought a new printer, and I'm going to send you a photo here. Please do. This works. I went big, Scott. Okay. Uh-oh.

I went really big. I'm nervous. So what the photo is that I'm sending you. There it is. Is my old printer build plate. Okay. The silver one is the old printer build plate. The checkerboard pattern one is the new printer build plate.

Oh, geez. I was just going to say, where's the comparison? It's actually sitting on it. Holy hell. It's actually sitting on it. Yeah, that's the, um, the end-cubic photon. Look at my feet.

I can see my feet. My gnarly toe. Can't help it. Pinch and zoom. A little zoomy fingers, man. You're trouble. You're trouble with that. I can't help it.

Zoom into my crotch. Yeah, that's true. But that is, yeah, the size of the... That's really big, dude. That's huge. so that's good though right means more surface oh my gosh i did you know let me grab a comparison yeah grab it let's take a look and see i'm i'm fascinated with um how big these are letting people print things these days yeah and and the thing i'm going to show you it does not require a large

format printer but i'm going to show you um this is a capybara print that i did and and hopefully i don't know how well the resolution is going to come here let's see if i put a oh yeah, you can pull a little something behind it. I'll put a little something behind it. Yeah, that might diffuse it some. It's red. We'll see if it works. But anyway, so, oh, yeah, no, it's not going to work because it just reflects it.

Anyway, this is a little capy bar that I printed for Gwen. I'm printing a bunch of little mini figs for little D&D figures for Gwen with the tea shop for Phoenix Pearl Tea. Sure. And quality-wise, oh, yeah, you can really, you can really, You can start seeing it, especially if I turn it upside down, like very pockmarked from the supports, shiny, losing a lot of detail problems like that. Oh, yeah, it almost looks, yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it is really weird. It's, you know, you kind of see modeling and bumps and things like that.

Same exact settings, same exact resin. This is the one I printed on the, you really can't tell. I'm just noticing that with these zero pockmarks, zero, those are the drain holes, but quality-wise, it is a night and day difference using the same settings, the same exact bottle of resin, not just the same brand, but the same exact bottle of resin between the two. Speaking of brands, is the printer the same brand or a different brand? It is.

It's also an any cubic. It's an any cubic replacing an older any cubic. So you probably just ran into the seven-year lifetime as about right for a resin printer or something. Exactly. You know, it went from a photon M4, photon M3 to a photon M7. And so skipped four generations, but this thing is, yeah, I'll post a pick in Discord showing you the differences between these two. Oh, yeah. We'd love to see it.

Is it faster as well or did no difference there? It's way faster. Oh, really? This thing is deluxe, dude. It's got a pump So I can actually put A pump into the bottle of resin And if it starts running out of resin

It'll pump more in there And when I'm done with the print It'll it'll suck all the resin back out And put it back in the bottle Oh, that's cool So you wouldn't know That probably would have Well, so anything that you've got like a core to

That's going to be liquefied, right? Or not liquefied, but you're going to Instead of having that stuff have to sit in there And cure longer or whatever, you can take it out and use it is what you're saying, right? Is that the idea? Yes. I mean, it just basically keeps you from having to clean the thing every time you want to change filament. Like, I can basically say, oh, all right, I'm done with the opaque filament or opaque resin. Let me just grab a bottle of clear resin for the next part of the print, the clear red part or the transparent.

And it'll, um, that's cool. And it starts with an empty tree each time. It heats up the resin, which gives you better quality. So it actually in the tray, it warms the. resin. It detects if there's a problem and stops the print immediately as opposed to just continuing to

you know, continuing print with garbage and waste your resin. It's got a this is dumb, but it's got a built-in set of hooks in there. So when I finish the print, I can take it off the build plate

off of the platform that raises and lowers and put it on these hooks that puts it an angle to drain all of the resin off of the print so I don't put all that stuff in the washing and curing station. That's cool. That's what's great about these iterations is they're now thinking about stuff like that. It's kind of like it's like a table saw where you can't cut a hot dog if you put it down next to it. It's like, well, the original table saws would just share your finger off and that was your mad luck.

Right. It's like now they're thinking of these features that are cooler. It's almost like it's got like detection. Right. I'm going to put So people are asking what the model is It's a mono M7 Max from any cubic

It is I did a lot of research And everybody like all the reviewers that I follow on YouTube Are saying this is the best printer of 2025 so far Oh nice So that's a brand new model pretty much

This is brand new Yeah just came out this year Oh yeah Look at this checking this out here whatever mac addict actually i got it i did get it a little bit of a discount oh good um so nothing wrong with that no nothing wrong with saving low cash i did not buy it direct from uh any cubic and i got it during a one day one day amazon sale that knocked it down about 25 that's great nice well congratulations on your new arrival 400 bucks more than if i were to buy a replacement LED that may or may not have

even solve the problem so sure that's cool well congratulations well done well thank you may all your prints be clean and may all and may people flood you with requests on etsy so that you may cover the cost of your printer i need to uh i need to uh we could do some youtube videos to promote the chiber crystal things because all of a sudden oh did i cut out 25 percent discount sorry i think i think it cut out when i was saying uh percent in people oh yeah i thought i thought you said bucks too 25% is a better deal 25% significant Yeah

And yeah I need to Promote the Chyber Crystal holders Because they're I'm all of a sudden People are searching like crazy for them I guess summer months People are going to Disneyland They're getting their lightsabers

And they want the Oh I didn't think of that Yeah You got a season for this Exactly So now it's the season For me to really promote the crap Out of the Cairoids

This is Brian's Black Friday For Kyber Crystal building It really is Yeah Kind of is. That's awesome. A black season. A black season.

Hopefully a few black chyber crystals will be found by people if they get lucky. All right. Well, there you have it. Hey, I went to the dentist yesterday and I just have this to say. Yeah. Great visit. No cavities. No changes.

The zombie tooth continues to exist and no one needs to do anything with it. All my watches are fine. Everything's good. No big issues. But I got a brand new hygienist yesterday who was intense. And I don't mean like just the work is that was also intention. She was very thorough, but also very like, all right, I'm in this may hurt a little. I'm going to get this tartar that I just found.

She's like way into it. She goes, you can, you know, the job security for us is that there's, you can't see behind your teeth. And so no one will ever be able to get back there but me. So that's my job security. And she was just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And it's one of those things where I couldn't respond very well. And it's fine. It's whatever.

Oh, I hate that. But we had a whole conversation about AI because she says, what do you do for a living? And I said, well, I have this little media podcast business thing. And, you know, we do shows. and I try to sort of give her the basic of it. And she goes, oh, that's really cool. Do you use AI a lot? And I said, not really.

I mean, we talk about it. And it comes up because it's a big thing these days and blah, blah, blah. And I said, it does help me with, like, my transcription of shows where I need to pay attention to every word said, like film sac pre-shows and things like that. I didn't tell her film sac, because she wouldn't know what I was talking about. Oh, that opens up a whole extra conversation that you probably don't want to have. Yeah. I don't even want to talk about why it's called, it has the word sack in it, right? Like, all that kind of stuff.

It's just hard. Sometimes you have to generalize what you do or else you're just going to be there all day. Exactly. You've been there a hundred times. Same here. It's just like annoying. Absolutely. Anyway, she was fine, but it was just one of these intense things.

And she had lots to say about everything. She goes, I used AI to make an invitation for a party. And it got nothing right. Nothing I told it. None of it. And I said, well, I mean, it's not great yet. She goes, now, is that actually? artificial intelligence. I said, well, I could explain what an LLM is. Now, now what's that?

And I said, well, what kind of AI usually goes? I'm using that Google one. I said, so Gemini probably. She says, yeah. I said, okay, well, it's a large language model. And she goes, oh, you lost me there. Anyway, tartar on the very back of your teeth. I'm back to the talk about teeth. It was just like, weep, whap, weep, whip, whip. But the best part about it is when I got there, she seemed really nervous when I got there and I thought this is weird why don't be I'm just a dork and I've been coming to this dentist for 20 years why what's the problem and she says so you're just next door then and I said well I mean do you mean my city is kind of next door I guess because I was just say yeah like the grand sense of sense of things yeah in the larger like we're all

neighbors and friends kind of way like like what do you mean by that and she goes well no I mean the office next door and I said no I'm I'm I'm all the way from you know before she asked what I did yeah and I said she goes oh and I immediately see her slack and go go loose and and less nervous and she goes okay your name is Scott Johnson though I said yeah she goes okay I thought you were the endodontist like pro dude that lives next door that everyone's nervous about and I was like one of these dental facilities that's got a lot of different offices in there for different yeah so she thought i was some big shot guy that ran the this other practice with like four other doctors and and that i was going to be you know somebody who would be very

critical of her work or whatever all this stuff i'm like no dude that ain't me that's not me we have a lot of us there's a lot of scott johnson's unfortunately i'm one of many and uh and it all worked out and then she was just like chill totally chill after that doesn't happen to dude's name brian ibett no it doesn't doesn't it doesn't it doesn't it does it? Like one day we're going to find somebody more famous than Brian Nibbitt, but I don't think that'll, that's, you know what? I don't think it's going to happen. I think by the end of your life, if you put down a flag and said, who is the most well-known Brian Nibbitt? It'll be you. I will have that. I will be spots one, two, and three on that chart. You are the list.

I did Uber, uh, my dentist once and we didn't realize because he's, he only comes in at the very end. So we barely see each other, right? Like the, the, the hygienists do all the work. They really do. And then the dentist comes in, gets all the glory and says, oh, all right, everything looks good here. Okay, see in a few months. That's all they do. That really is it. Yeah, they come in, they hand that rocks the cradle your mouth for five minutes, and then they leave. Right. And you're like, all right. That's great. Right. Yeah. But, you know, picked him up and he said, oh, I'm a dentist. Oh, where's your practice? Over on 64th. I'm like, oh, I go to a practice on 64th. And then turns out he's my dentist. That's funny, dude. You didn't recognize him at all when you saw him? Oh, no.

No, they have a couple different dudes who work at that in the same practice, so a couple different younger dentist dudes. And he, he's only been in once the other guy comes in more often, almost every time it's the other guy. Yeah, we have similar to here. My main doctor I've seen for 20 years is rarely there now. I think he's getting close to hanging it up. And he started the practice in like a two bedroom house conversion office thing and grew it to be this massive thing with like, five doctors there and I don't know how many other people work and it's like a big deal now but he's only there on tuesday so yesterday I thought oh I'll get to see my guy he loves talking about

apple stuff he wants to talk about art and podcast he's always he's into what I do so he actually understands it and I was thinking oh cool I get to see him again no but some guy who looks like he's 13 who just got out of dental school and it's like oh and he was fine he knew his stuff he was very professional but I feel like I'm dealing with children I don't like it Yes. Did I call you, sir? Yes. He did. Looks like your mouth is... He did call me, sir, now that you mention it. Now I'm even more annoyed, because don't call me, sir. Exactly. I'm not your dad, although I'm apparently old enough to be, right?

Right, right. I'm not, you know, I'm not asking your daughter out. You're not asking my daughter out. You don't need to call me, sir. But my dentist, when he was starting out, we first started using him, and we were both like 32 or something. I don't know what we were. And I... And it was like, he and I are young and we had little babies and it was just like that was the thing and now he's still you know we're still the age we are we've grown together but now all these people he's hiring they're all just out of puberty it feels like I know they're not they've all gone to dental school and they're all you know professional dentist but they come walking in just looking like

the most dude bro gen z looking really are it's weird it's really weird anyway that was just fun I was just selling some crypto in the back all right how are these teeth looking but we did get we got j dogs coupons and uh oh nice went straight there oh it's so good and i found out so they built this brand new baseball diamond near us for the uh for our team the bees the solid bees and it's now right near us and there's a new theater going in there and all this stuff we're very excited about it overall cool but they told me yesterday the j dogs guy goes and we're building one right there and i'm like that's literally uh 10 to 15 minute walk from my house two minute drive you're going to murder me.

I'm going to die of a hot dog. It's going to be so good. We found out there putting a Dutch Brothers coffee just down the road from us. Like they're already starting the build process. They've got coming soon, Dutch Brothers coffee. And it's like, this is going to be the freaking end of me. This is the end of me. Yeah.

I've hear, wait, do we have a Dutch brother? We might now, but I hear nothing but raves. Like everybody wants to go to Dutch brothers. They just want to live there. Really, really good. But, you know, come on. Let's be honest. It's not a coffee shop.

It's a milkshick shop. It's a fancy milkshake. Yeah, I mean, it's, I usually get there, they have an energy drink thing that they stick in the blender. It's a rebel energy and they have a zero sugar version. So they, you know, they throw a couple squirts of peach and watermelon in a zero sugar peach and watermelon into a zero sugar rebel with some ice and make a nice little, nice little frozen blend. It's like an energy slurpy is what it. I mean, yeah, sure. I guess that sounds right.

You know what? They have, I'm looking at their menu now. Yeah. I mean, come on here. Let's. Yeah, coffee's basically coffee is the lowest thing on their list. Look at that, right? Serial over here, basically, these things, these machetees are full of sugar.

Oh, geez, yeah. Oh, is this the rebel? Is this one you're talking about? Yeah, the Dutch brothers rebel, yeah. And then you can get, uh, popping boba fire lizard. So banana orange and strawberry squirts with strawberry boba in a rebel. Damn. It kind of looks like if something looks like that, you have it checked out by a doctor.

Yeah, right? Look at these things. That's not good. That's what RFK would be happy if everybody in the country looked like. Yeah. I guess they're doing good, though. Yeah. They're all over the place.

Does it say how many calories were in that thing? Oh, I missed it. Let me go back and look. Let's see. Whoops. It's in this one, this one. it has. Do they say? Oh, 2000? I'm sorry. No, that just is the...

Okay. Oh, shit. I was it? But let's be honest. If you don't get the zero sugar version of that, and there's no way to get a zero sugar version of what that is, you're probably looking at about 800 to 1,200 calories. Yeah, that's a lot, dude. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Well, go easy, everybody. Don't drink it all in one gold. That's all we're saying. Oh, they're all over the place here in Utah. I'm shocked. Oh, really? Oh, good. You You got to go check one out. Like 10, 12 of them in the city? Yeah.

Just in the city. I'm going to warn you right now. Don't go there if you're in a hurry because you'll have three people working on drinks in the back, but there'll be a fourth person who just leans out the window and says, so what are you doing today? What do you got going on today? Oh, that's cool. I'm not kidding.

I am not exaggerating. Man, St. George has three. There's plenty of these. Oh, they're. Go check one out. They're blowing up. All right.

Good job. up brothers of Dutch coming soon one down the block from yours truly yep sorry Montana the Dakotas and uh Nevada barely they really they really do paint a southern swath yeah Michigan is out Wisconsin yeah F the upper eastern block up here forget that New York New York all right uh let's move on to this I got a call from Talia we have to play. I don't know if she's in the chat today or not. If she's here, great. If she's not, well, that's her problem. Here is her call. Hey, uh, guys, it's Talia. You ever wonder, like, if we should have like a shibboleth to like determine other frog pants

people, like, you know, if you see someone like sitting in a car listening to TMS, you walk up and yell like explosive tip or fart gas at them, is that supposed to like let them know that, hey, we're in on our circle. That's our special thing. Anyway, smoke weed every day. Now I cut out. I cut out her taking a drag on some sort of bong or whatever it was. I cut that out. Oh, really? Did she have that in her audio? Like she had a little... It was like a full on... Yeah, you hear the bubbles and stuff. And I thought, I was hesitant because I went, I don't know how... I don't know what the rules are, Twitch or YouTube on like... I don't know. I just don't know. It could have been just her blowing bubbles in a hot cocoa or something. Or... I have my doubts. I have a feeling it was real.

But anyway, what's... I love that idea. Like, like, shibboleth of uh you know like a handshake or a uh hand sign or uh um something along those lines yeah i'm also pleased to have learned shibboleth what a shibboleth i'd never heard of it until i got the call yesterday and i looked it up me neither yeah yeah a word or pronunciation that distinguishes people of one group or class from those of another so yeah i guess if you had another custom a principle of belief so like uh you know how motorcyclists when they pass each other do a little bit of a, they kind of lower their hands to do a little wave for the, the, the hand that's on the inside, like, so you've got, you know, one motorcycle going this way,

another one going the other way. Yeah. They'll put their hands out to kind of do a little, a little howdy. Oh, right. Oh, that's a shibbler. That's a shibler. So then you could say like CB operators are full of those, right? Oh, sure.

Like, uh, yeah. It's like their own language almost. With their own language. That's a good one. Hey, good, buddy. get up on the big town come back or whatever they say I don't know what they do my dad used to do that a little bit like there would be we'd be in the motor home really yeah

and he'd have a CB hooked up and it would hear something go and he'd pick it up and go yeah that's I hear you just find up here in the thing big daddy come back breaker breaker one yeah and I'm looking at my dad going like what are you dad are you like a stereotype are we on a great big convoy running through the night what are we doing here exactly Yeah. Got 50 bucks.

That's where that line came from, right? It is from Convoy. Yeah, it was Borgonine. Trying to get a bribe out of Chris Christopherson, if I remember correctly. I love it. Love it. All right, we got one more call from your neck of the woods. Luke and Boulder, and this has a visual component.

So listeners, we'll describe it the best we can, but here's what he has to say. And he did it using the new, I told you about that new AI converter thing. So if you choose to do so, I don't choose. do, the listener, if you want their voice to be AI generated from their text. And that's what he did. So here it is. Greetings, gents. Just wanted to, one, revisit the Manila Bulletin moment from yesterday, really had me laughing. And two, wanted to get both your opinions on the redesign of the Mountain Dew logo. I quite like the more old school's vintage feel. The old one felt like

forced 90s lighting bolts and reminded me of the no fear brand of clothing. All right. So I got a version of this. We're going to show everybody. Brian's got one on our notes. 100% agree. Yeah. I actually really, I think the new logo is actually kind of rad. It is. I like the, like, you know, it harkens back to the Mountain Dew that we grew up with, which had,

golly, for almost 30 years, they used that top center one. And that's the one I, I remember. Yeah, that was it. Where you've got the word due tucked into the space made by the word mountain. A mix of capital letters and lowercase letters. And really, I guess it's just the A, I, and E that are. lowercase. And that T is nuts. It's doing a lot of work in the middle there. It is. It is. And so I like the hearkening back with the new one.

Yeah, I think never cared for the MTN. You got room. You could write out melt. I agree. Did not care for that. Felt like that was KFCing it. Don't do that. That's dumb. The original is lame. The 48 one, but that's 48, whatever. 69 they changed. It kept it, like you said, 30 years, freaking forever. And then 96, they changed it to a pretty good one. I think it's all right. but that 05 one eh yeah exactly it's like oh fish islands

yeah but this new one look at this 2025 baby it's great I love it yeah big fan I will drink a mountain do I like the it's less abstract first of all but yeah I like chiefly this just sort of thick

thick raised business I think that's great but they snuck a little 48 in there by putting the they did yeah established 1948 Great. And a little, the W's pooping out a little registered trademark symbol.

Oh, yeah, look at that. Just shitting it out the back. Yep. See, you're a pinchy-zumi, too. You can see things. Oh, I saw things. Yes, and I see things. I see things.

I see things. I see registered people. Well, good news, everyone. It's time for Tad Pooley feud, and that means the fourth callers getting in. Dunaway is for sure getting in. Good prizes today, thanks to a Taffy guy. Oh, that's great. want to win today folks really i'm scared now but what do we got it full of shug or what are we

doing here what are we got oh no they're they're they're they're games but they're great great games excellent all right let's bring them on in you know him you love him it's brian dunaway hello no hi scott and brian i know me and love me i love me so much you should love you You're great. We love you, too. You're a lovable feller, a man about town. I'm certainly cuddly. Well, that's the truth.

Let's take our fourth caller. I'm pretty sure we have one. Yep, we do. And it is a familiar voice. Let's see you here. I always worry when you say that. I know. It makes you just tense up a little bit.

I do too. It does, exactly. But it's not too bad. It's Stephanie in a pet. We like Stephanie a lot. She's great. We like everybody. You're all great.

You're all wonderful. But some of you give us a little more. some of you give us a little gas when you least expect it that's all uh it is everyone's favorite mermaid and star uh star sorry a spider man fan it is stephanie indepence hello stephan how are you it's a me it's a you hey what's going on with you how are you doing uh i'm doing okay i have a little bit of work drama going on but it's my uh 14th year anniversary with my husband oh my gosh That's great. Wow. Congratulations.

Congratulations. 14 is no small number. Yeah, you're breaking all the rules over there. Well, it's nice to hear you and virtually see you. We haven't seen you since Vegas. It feels like it's been like two and a half weeks. Is that how long it's been? God, isn't that crazy?

Three weeks? Three weeks. Yeah. Yeah, three, three weeks. The day, right? Pretty much. Yeah, three weeks ago today was our live show. That is very odd.

We all watched you put about 12, ounces of tomato juice into a three ounce, bloody merry. Never forget, never surrender. Hey, this is great, though. We're going to have you play. You're going to see if we can win you some prizes and see if Donoway's got the stuff he needs to win today. Brian, Ibbett, explain these here rules and who's going to win what?

Okay, it's time to play the tadpulli few. Oh, wow. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian, you have to predict the answers they gave us. It is Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Stephanie and for a set your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian

if your team wins you will get a prize package that includes XCOM Enforcer and Terraforming Mars two games that Kyle will really enjoy playing yeah he'll love the area yeah terraforming Mars is awesome and oh is that the one that has all

the DLC with it I can't remember who gave us what but we may uh... Taffy guy gave us um yeah like we have a bunch of like these are he said that these are all stand alone games okay cool excom enforcer

excom intercept or apocalypse so we're going to be giving away those over the course of the next few weeks terraforming mars is awesome it's based on a board game that I think translated wonderfully to uh oh I think it's it makes for an even better because you're stimulating

building you know you're landing on Mars and you've got to build a town and survive and all that yeah it's awesome I'll bet Kyle will love this one and you will love watching him play it. That's how that's going to go. Yeah, that's exactly what I do. If you win today, you could even say, oh, I got you a couple of games and not even tell him for your anniversary. Exactly. Not even tell him that you won it. He's like six months behind on TMS. So I could probably get away. Excellent. For at least half a year, you could get away

with that. Yeah. You know what that's great to think about because we saw him three weeks ago. And it's funny to think that we could have said things three months ago that he hasn't heard yet that were rude about him, but we saw him, you know what I mean? And he didn't know what we had said, and we didn't say anything. So when he catches up, he'll be like, oh, shit. Not that we did, but he could. That's all the time. He'd try to give him, like, the Reader's Digest version of what I hear because he's so far behind. I really do miss him being on it at the same time as me, so we can actually discuss what's going on. Which is hilarious, because he introduced you to the show. That's so funny to me. Yeah, I know. And now you're here all the time.

All right. Well, let's do this, Brian. Let's have our challenge and eat it. Okay, sounds good. Let's see here. I'm going to have you guys put your hands on your buzzers and give me your best answer to this. We asked 442 tadpoolers to name a fictional cat. Scott. Garfield. Come it. Yeah, it's easy. Here's your free one point. Enjoy it. Yeah. And control of the board because no answers will beat it.

Easy enough, right? I love a nice little forward tadpooly feud. Scott, you do have, Stephanie, is a partner, and you've got control of the board. Nine answers left. Okay. Name a fictional cat. Stephanie, I feel like you're your good partner for cat stuff. I don't know why, but do you have a fictional cat?

Yeah, I mean, I have four cats. Four cats, good. But they're all real. Oh, really? Geez. None are fictional, right? No. They're all real cats.

All real cats. All right. Well, what do you... Four real cats, five fictional. I'm just kidding. What's a kitty? What's like a prominent fictional kitty? Do you think the Tadpool would say?

Heity, kitty. The first one I thought of was Sylvester. He was definitely a favorite of mine. Oh, yeah. Fucker. That's the pretty good guess. Yeah, he spits and wants to eat birds. He's great.

He did, man. There's no way you're standing next to Sylvester and not just going to... I would not eat Tweety. There is definitely something wrong. with his head. That is not a bird shape. No, it is not.

That skull's not going down easy. Exactly. All right. Very good. Well, show me Sylvester. Oh. No.

No. No. There are more popular, with the tadpool, more popular fictional cats. But look at that. You just got that away. You ripped off the bandaid

of a tough answer and now we can move forward. Are we just aging out? No, I'm nervous. Maybe we're just finally aging out from Looney Tunes. I think so. Yeah.

Damn. All right. Oh, that worries me because the one I was going to, when I had in the chamber was Heathcliff. And now I'm thinking maybe that's a bad idea. You go with Timu Garfield. Yeah. Go with your heart. Go with your heart, Brian.

Do what you think is best. I want to see Heathcliff up there. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say Heathcliff. Yeah. All right. Show me the cat from Wuthering Heights. Heathcliff. Oh.

Yeah. Thank God. the lead. Oh, that was three points. That was worrisome. Brian's got three to Scott and Stephanie's one. I'm confident we're going to clear it anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Plenty of, plenty of game left to be played. All right, so I'm going to get out of that. Heathcliff come. I want to say Heathcliff came before Garfield, but yeah, yeah, Heathcliff came first. He did. Everybody thinks it's the other way around, but it was one of those. They were like, it's like the Diamond Rio and the iPod. No one thinks of the Diamond Rio anymore, but it's like that. Isn't that the band that did the Macarena? Yeah, Diamond Rio.

Famously, the Macarena by Diamond Rio. You can get it at the best by. You get another answer, eight answers left. I think I'm going to flee from the comics page, even though I've got plenty of that I can think of. How about we go to some fictional cats and books? How about a cat in a hat? Oh, sure.

The cat in a hat. That's pretty good. show me the cat in a hat. Are you kidding me? Cat in the hat. Cat in the hat is number 20. It's real because I've seen the movie live action. I know.

It looks a lot like Mike Myers, weirdly enough. Was Mike Myers? Am I remember? Yeah, it was Mike Myers. You're right. He was very, he disappeared into that character. He looked nothing like Mike Myers. He really did.

He has a lot of makeup and prosthetics and stuff like that. So since it's the tad pool. and we've famously the stupid I don't do it don't do it you don't think we should do Chester the Cheetah can we wait on that one we can hold it we can keep it as a backup listen to your listen to your partner

I'm going to listen to my partner because Brian basically just said it's not on there so let's do let's do whatever I want this game to last a little bit longer please let's do the one you were thinking what do you what are you thinking I was actually thinking Salem I have a Salem

Brian has a Salem Salem is famous in many ways of the cat I guess Right Let's do Salem Including the lot

That's very scary Yeah Or Was there a cat in Salem's lot? I don't think so There should be though No No no

But I wasn't going to pit cemetery I'm sure there wasn't a major character in the film Yeah probably existed So they were probably Kitties in there Sure They probably jumped out

to jump scare if those movies are yeah well i like it i think we go with cat or with uh sorry salem i think it's good let's go with cat um by do you know my salem is salem massachusetts with the zip code that i can't remember oh four two nine one but uh to differentiate between all the other salems out there uh this is specifically the one from sabrina the teenage witch show me salem oh wow good good yeah i'm shocked by that i don't know why i guess i'm you know what that wasn't for me, so I didn't watch it. A lot of, yeah, a lot of 90s kids, maybe a little bit after your time, barely. I'm not sure I would have been into Sabrina no matter how old I was, though.

You know what I mean? Oh, Sabrina's wonderful. Not just because it's girls. Not just because it's girls for anyone who wants to email me all angry or whatever, because. Sabrina was a pretty decent show, man. I don't know. It's a great show. I'm sure it is.

It's a treasure. I like the new one they did that Netflix thing, reimagined it. Yeah, I like that. I thought that was good. but it's still not a thing I'm drawn to the scary continuing adventures of Sabrina wasn't it uh it's madman madman daughter um oh right

she's good I like her a lot she is really good yeah forgot her name though isn't everything John Ham's offspring I don't know what her name is uh all right we're on a roll uh you're on a roll a role of one

oh is it my role again wait didn't we just say let no no that was uh no they said yeah that was uh there we go Oh, that is great. I gave the points to the wrong players. That is great. And all the excitement.

I'm glad he'd let you fix that, though. That's good. Did I fire five bullets or six? All right, go ahead. Let's see. So we got Garfield Heath, like, Salem. This makes me think that it's going to be. Should we do?

I mean, I'll let you speak a few. Well, no. So far, you're the winning voice here. So I'd rather rely on your cat knowledge. I lost us one and I gained us one So I mean I'm kind of 50 That's true Do you have one that's hopping oh you know what

How about um Oh what's the name of the damn cat Uh Calvin and Hobbs cat The uh Oh Geez I wonder what

I wonder what Hobbs is name Is he'll in the States Oh bright don't help him No but what's the name of the kind of It's not a cat He's a tiger I guess He is a tiger Yeah yeah

Well they're in the cat family though right Yeah, that's the question. The feline family. But do you think the tadpoles like leaning into kitties, are they leaning into like big cats or fictional cartoon cats? I can still think of a few that are probably going to be more popular. And I don't know, I still, maybe we should reserve the non-domesticated animals, cats.

I'll go with your judgment. Depending how we're doing. All right. What do you want? That's just my. Do you have one? Like build up some, build up some, lead before you start going a little eccentric

with the answers. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I just can't think of any other, like, famous cats. So you're, I'm relying on you. You do it. What do you got? Let me continue. Let's get the Cheshire cat. There you go. There you go. Number two, right there. Cheshire cat. All right, let's do it. Give it to us. Mom, Alice. Let's go. Let's go see what's going on. Mile. Show me show me what the entire Cheshire

Cat. Cheshire Cat. Number four on the list. Is it Cheshire? Okay. Cheshire. Yeah, I don't. I mean, this would be a Zoe question because it's a shire. Yeah. Right? Wasn't Lewis Carroll? Wasn't Louis Carroll British? Amy probably knows too. I think that's right. I think Lewis Carroll was British, so. Sounds bad.

Be Cheshire. I don't know. Claire says Shire, but they don't get along with the British. What does she know? Yeah, Zoe says, not as in Hobbit Shire. Okay. All right. Sure. Yeah.

Sure. There we go. Cheshire cat. Yep. All right. We're Chester Shire cat. I love it. First Chester Shire.

All right. Give it. Okay. All right. What you got? Zachary banks from Hocus Pocus. Oh, that's great. I forgot about Zachary.

That's a great cat, though. Zachary with T. I don't know. Zachary. Zachary. Zachary. Yeah. That's like made a.

May the fourth be with you, is what it sounds like. I hate that. Right. All right. Show me. Maybe just binks. Show me binks. Binks, there you go.

Binks the cat. That's the, that's, oh, no, what? All the way down to 28, surprisingly. That's a really good one, though. Dang. I've never heard of it. I thought he'd be higher, especially since Salem was on there. Those movies are so bad.

They're so horrible. So, so bad, they're good. What are you? Are you right now in my face telling me how hocus pocus is not good? Is that what you're doing? No, I'm over, I am over Discord telling you how bad hocus pocus is. I am also, I am over discord telling you the same. Brian and I are in full agreement here.

Honestly, I think you just needed to be like a kid and grow up with it. Maybe, maybe. That's pretty young for the first one. 1994 Nickelodeon level acting in that thing. Yeah. The first one, I can't talk to you guys right now. well that boats well i'm agreeing with you don't away yeah you two are buddies on this front like every year for i think that's true you had to grow up with it teen i watched it recently because we'd never seen it and

it was all my you just recently saw it well no wonder no i saw it i saw it 93 it wasn't good then quality be something that you could watch any time and appreciate that quality or is a movie that is quality only containing quality for a short period of time like yeah the godfather you know uh great in the 70s really sucked in the 90s some stuff just doesn't hold up it kind of did it I mean people turn that off man you're in the 70s we had a different attitude of watching long ass boring movies but you know later on it was like I don't know man I look at this photo of these three witch ladies and I just kind of cringe I don't like it the three witch ladies I cannot talk to you right now the sanderson's dangerous but not too scary I don't know I think

I mean, if they ever did a spin-off with just Sarah Jessica Parker's character, I could probably watch that. This is going off the check. Give me. All right. Okay. Give you some cats.

Give you some cats. We need back to Brian. Cripes. How about, okay, so we didn't. Come on. You guys know Tom and Jerry. Come on. Tom is on there, right?

Because I know you guys didn't pick the other classic. We were going to hold Tom. We were, I had Tom in my head, but I'm, you know, it's good that's coming out now let's get tom i mean they don't have sylvester so i just don't have a lot of tom there's a lot of tom in the uh in the tom cat all right yeah they've been screaming that the whole time show me tom of the and jerry fame oh my god okay now i'm mad now i don't understand number 16 on the list that's effed up that's up oh my gosh no i'm scared no it should be we still have six answers the right side of the page not even, not even touched, not even, uh, uh, no foray has been taken to the right side.

This is number two, yeah. This is what Jerry, or sorry, this is what Tom would do if he knew what was going on today. Wait. There you go. He would do that. He would yell like that. Is his tail on fire for that one? That one he's getting, oh, his fingers smashed by something.

Oh, no, his tails caught to something. Is Jerry shaving his eyelashes? Is that what's happening in that one? see you. Oh, yeah, that's a, that's a finger smash. And that sound, that sound effective, something getting smashed. I love it so much. That's a, somebody's, uh, the heel of their, uh, 1940s shoe hitting a piece of wood.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just burned into me. I love it so much. All right. Well, that sucks. That should be on there, but I'll, I'll take it. Six answers still on the board, but, uh, you guys, well, good thing you didn't say it.

I'm curious from that one, uh, Scott. Yeah. All right. Back over to you. Stephanie. What do you think of the cat from the Simpsons, the Oh yeah, Snowball, right? Either Snowball the one

they own or itchy and Scratchy cat. I forget which one's which. Oh, that's good too. Scratchy, I think, is the cat. I'm assuming it itchy is the mouse, right? Yeah. So, so, I mean, I don't watch The Simpsons. I don't know how popular that is

compared to, like, Sylvester and Tom. I feel like those two cats were more popular and the fact that neither of those made the board probably makes it less likely. Maybe. I mean, you're on your last strike. It might be time to use some of those

that you were holding on to for that's a hint. You're less, you know. That's a hint. That sounds like a hint. Your more eccentric guesses that you felt like you were holding on to. Yeah.

Maybe, I think maybe we should go with, we should go with, I don't know. Maybe we should go with Hobbs. I don't know. Hobbs. Let's try Hobbs. He's obscure.

Okay. I think Hobbs is number two because a lot of people love Hobbs. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do Hobbs. All right. Show us Hobbs.

Number six, actually. That's good money. I like that. Yeah. You're taking you guys up to 16 points. So if they did that, does that tell us anything? Does that teach us anything?

I know we have a big Hello Kitty contingent in our community. Oh, there you go. A lot of the, lot of the, I mean, yeah. Is it a hell of kitty's real? And there's that whole. made is, is she a cat or is she a girl or a cat costume? She's a girl. She's a girl who looks like a cat.

She's a girl who looks like a cat. Kitty is in the name. But I thought she was like a, well, so then she's a little furry? Is that what that? Is that what's going on there? I mean, I don't know. Hello Kitty is. Yeah.

Sorry, go ahead. Brian. Let's see. She lives in a London suburb with her family. Let's see. Oh, no. Okay, anthropomorphized white cat with a red bow and no visible mouth. Okay.

So it's basically... That's a creepy way to describe Hello Kitty, but okay. But instead of a humanie, or instead of a furry, it's more of a humony is what it is. The other way. Yes. I'm just going to take a second to call out the chat here and be like, it's fictional cats. So everybody that keeps saying like grumpy cat, Princess Don't it? Oh, yeah, grumpy cat's real.

Real cats in the world. But it doesn't matter because this grumpy cat is. They are also. So, yeah. It's a tadpole. It's also a tadpool. This is not a this from a book. Grumpy can.

A very popular book with the tadpool. Oh, that's right. Well, I guess I didn't know what that was. I assume that was. Hi. Homish Overlord says pussy galore and I'm about to fall over dead. Here we go. San Rio's official position.

San Rio has stated that Hello Kitty is not a cat, but rather a little girl. Okay. Yeah, but that's assuming anyone wants to agree to that. Wow, I know way more about Hello. kitty at the end of the day than I did at the start of the day. The guy who invented the graphical interface what was the GIF stand for? Graphical interface

Oh yeah, graphical interchange format. Format, that's it. That guy says it's GIF and he's wrong. Exactly. Everybody knows this GIF. Here's what's funny is my audio clip from my recommendal later touches on this very thing. It's like perfect timing to discuss this.

Really? All right. Yeah. All right. A lot of Princess Donut in the chat. I'm not saying we should do it. Is that your answer? Is that your guess? Let's do it. Not me. It's our turn.

Yeah. We'll go Princess Donut. All right. Let's do it. Show me. I don't have her full name here in front of me. Princess Donut. Look at that.

Number 10 in the thing there. Look, big points. 26 points for that one. Wow. Shit, it's 1002. Scott, you want to do Puzz and Boots? Yeah. you know what that's a good one get your uh your what's his name and yeah banderis doing his thing

bandaris all right i'm in tonyo buggins chal be pus boots surprisingly piss and boot number 13 in the list that's third movie's real good or the new newest one whatever it is all right got uh one last guess or one last strike for brian uh four answers still on the board i would be ashamed of myself i did not mention uh uh one of the first uh comic cats uh crazy cat george herriman from ignats in a crazy cat yes or crazy cat sure like one of the one of the classic ones out there it's uh sorry show me crazy cat oh it was so quick on the buzzer there uh there you go there's your there's your game congratulations stepney and really congratulations kyle let's get to these other ones um this one surprised me that it was so high in the list

because he's a cat with a big bag of tricks. Oh, the tricks. Felix, the freaking cat's an old school one, though. Yeah, that's old school. Yeah. Let's go sci-fi for the next three. Seven, eight, and nine are all sci-fi. Does that help you?

Oh, Jonesy. Is Jonesy in there? Data's cat spot, number seven. Jonesy from Alien, number nine. Nice. And our Marvel cat. Oh, Goose, the flurkin. The flurkin.

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that cat. I mean, that one's great, but... It's not really a cat, is he? More of a fictional alien. He's a flurkin, you guys. Bit of a stretch. This one, wasn't Fritz the Cat number 11?

Our bonus guess was the, like, dirty, dirty cartoons, right? Fritz the Cat was the dirty one? Yeah, yeah. I think so. Yeah, correct. Dirty. Just going down the rest of the list. Top Cat or Bus Cat in the UK.

Bill the Cat. Oh, yeah. Bill the Cat, of course. More comics. Gigi from Keith. Keyes Delivery Service, Nermal, Schrodinger's cat, technically a fictional cat, more of a hypothetical cat than a fictional cat. Snowball 2 was number 20, Crookshanks, Henry's cat, Mr. from the Dresden Files, Snarf, Tigger, Asriel, Dextar. Did they say SNARF? Hold the phone. They did say SNARF, yes. You guys.

He's an alien cat. It's a stretch. Yeah, I mean, it's just as, it's just as fictional as the flurkin. Sure. O'Malley, the alley cat from the Aristocrats. Oh, Malley. Hello Kitty, all the way down to number 30. Pete the cat, Tuneses, the cat who could drive a car. Oh, that's right.

And then we get to a bunch of Esmeralda, Black Panther, the cat from the video game Stray, cat bus, cat dog, Chester Cheetah. One person, by the way, said Chester Chita. Clifford, that's a big red dog, phone's Pringer, Dr. Claus Cat, E. um fat freddie's cat figaro frumpkin uh somebody said jerry they didn't pay attention in time the jerry class jizz lord great great uh great uh great oh wow yeah that's

that smells like italia answer but whatever it's fine that's right crazy cat all the way down here uh Luna from sailor moon mr bigglesworth uh morgana from persona five morris Morris was a real cat uh let's see mufasa uh Old Deuteronomy, Rumptum Tigger. Shir Khan, Simba, Stimpy. Great, Stimpy. Oh, yeah, Stimpy I would have put higher, but I guess we didn't know it. The cat from the song, The Cat Came back.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And finally, Zunar J. 59, Doric 4, A.K.A.J. 59, Doric 4, A.K.K.A.J. from The cat from Outer Spank. Good Lord. Nice. By the way, I think the big winner here is Jim Davis with his, everybody agrees Garfield,

your number one cat. The guy's a marketing genius. It's not even a very... Look at the number, you know, 163 of 442 people went to Garfield. It's not even that good of a comic, but what Jim Davis did with it. Hey, hey, hey. It's okay. I'm not saying it's bad.

I'm just saying, is it as big as... Would it be as big as it is without Jim Davis's marketing genius? No, probably not. That's my answer. Well, all right. That means you're the big winner. Congratulations. And that means you walk away with these codes and then you immediately give them to Kyle.

And then Kyle in three months will hear this whole thing and understand what's going on. Always fun having you on. I hope your mermaid tail remains of the highest integrity. Okay? Bye. All right. That's it for that. Hey, Dunaway. The next Monday, we're doing the play retro

show. And guess what we're doing? Finally, we're getting to Doom. Doom 1 and 2. Ooh. And in 64 maybe? Yeah, I want to. Doom 64 is freaking awesome. I can't wait to talk about it. We're about the original dooms. And here's the other cool thing. Doghouse systems is going to

donate a brand new copy of Doom the Dark Ages, the brand new Doom game, which just came out. They're going to donate one of those for the play retro audience and one for the core audience. So this week, people have a chance, two chances, to win a copy of the brand new AAA $69 title, Doom the Dark Ages. Anyway, that's all coming up. It's going to be very exciting. I would like you, though, to kiss our butts. All right, he had no time to answer. All right, Brian, we're going to take a break. When we come back, Tom Merritt will join us for some tech news and discovery and discussion after that we'll have some recommendals with Randy before that we need a song if you don't mind we do need a

song we're due we're overdue for a song um this one I listened to this morning to pick I was a little late in getting songs together so this one I'd pick this morning but I'm glad I did this is a band called okay cowgirl um I love this they are they just announced their summer tour they're going to be joining the band barehands heading to the southeast Midwest and the northeast but not central in major Market Cities, the brand new album, couldn't save us from my gut, is now available, available during, or sorry, from Easy Does It Records. This is the song Little Splinters.

I think you're going to love it. This is a song, this is a group called, my God, I'm just stumbling all over the place. Okay, Cowgirl. I'm going to plan too many coffee dates. And when morning a pro, That's when I will flake Inconsequential Why can't you let me be

I don't want you to need me Just want you to please my every win Oh so trimsy I wish that I could breathe An air cold like winter keeps me on my toes. Oh, let us plant is One day trees will grow Oh, and splinters

One day trees will grow grow Homecoming queen But no day to the dance Sneaking chips In a black bodega bed Posted a topless pick attention grow

To be well liked Can't feel so small When you just want One to love your role Sometimes vulnerability Just looks like Strange Traged

Traged it just too scare I still found And then to I To let it go To let it go I have wasted years drowned to escape from

I have wasted years To let it go But this year I want to move in it like a muddy swan This year gonna dance with it like I'm at the prong All the splenities, one day we will grow. Oh, little splinties, one day we will grow. Remember what the sheriff said. No more shooting until the sun goes down.

Is that what he said? That's close enough, brother. I want a pet monkey. And we returned. Who was that one more time? That is the band OK Cowgirl from the band. their brand new album. Couldn't save us from my gut.

The deluxe version just came out this year. That's the song Little Splinters. Nice. Do check it out. Let's get Tom in here. Let's do some tech news, discovery, and discussion, as I referred to earlier. I think it's a great idea. I do too.

I feel like I don't know what's going on in the day until I do talk to him. So here we go. Isn't technology wonderful? Oh, it sure can be. Tom Merritt is here as he is each and every Wednesday to talk about the news of the day, and I couldn't imagine a nicer guy to do it. Tom Merritt, welcome back. I bet if you tried, you could. Do you think so? I don't know, man. That's a high watermark, a high level. It's lovely to see you. I assume something's going on in the tech world, probably.

There always is. It's usually AI related, but, you know, we don't know until we get here. So what's going on? I am working on this MIT Technology Review article, which is fantastic. for Daily Tech News Show explanation about energy use. This is one of the first reports I've seen that actually looked at what we know and took a new account what we don't know and didn't try to use scare tactics to come up with like, yeah, this is the problem. And I haven't got to the end to find out if they propose solutions or not. But that is worth a read.

So you can go check that out. It's called AI energy use climate footprint in big tech. We did the math on AI's energy footprint. Nice. Here's the story you haven't heard. Love that. Go check that out. It's not going to tell you everything's fine, but it's also not going to try to be like,

your single query uses all the power of Denmark, which is not true either. No. So this is good. This is a good level-headed, like, let's actually look at what the problem actually is. Sure. So that's good stuff. Easier to address these problems when you know what they are, right? You know what they really are.

Yeah, exactly. Like, we get in this thing of like, oh, so you think there's not a problem because you don't think one query is the size of Denmark? I'm like, no, but what I'd like to do is figure out what the problem actually is. You know, for example, people are like, why don't we use wind power? Data centers need constant supply of energy, so wind power is kind of intermittent, not a great source for this. But also, you know what they do? They tie into power grids. So maybe wind power could be providing things into the power grid sometimes.

and that energy is used for the data center when it's natural, et cetera. It's complex, which is why you need this really long article to explain it. But what I'm more excited about is that Fortnite's back in the app store on iOS. Oh, wait a minute. So that means what that sounds like is Apple has run out of ideas to keep it going, to keep the fight up because uptown now, they've found lots of loopholes. And even though a court would say this, they would do this, and they would find a way to say, well okay in this territory maybe but not over here and so the Sweeney um Tim Apple fight

finally comes down to fine you can be on our store and you can people can buy stuff outside of it or however you might say Apple succumbed to the Sweeney prod oh man Sweeney prod I'd watch that movie uh that's wild so so what's the demon developer of street I mean they're obviously they're legally now a force to capitulate, but what is what does it all mean at this stage? It's complicated and I'll get into the details on Daily Tech News Show today with Jen Cutter. So definitely tune into that if you want to know all the twists and turns. But right now, where it stands is that Judge Yvonne Gonzalez-Rogers issued a very terse opinion yesterday when Epic complained that Apple wasn't accepting Fortnite

that you can resolve this on your own Apple. Don't make a very terse opinion yesterday. Don't make me call you into court. And also, if you do, I want you to tell me the person responsible for not approving Fortnite's app. And they show up in court. And what most people seem to think was that was the judge's way of going, I think I might be able to hold someone in contempt for this. And I want to know who personally to hold in contempt of court. And so without comment, Fortnite was approved Tuesday evening.

and has shown up in the U.S. App Store. It's not over, though. Apple is still appealing the judge's ruling, forcing them to allow links out. Microsoft filed an amicus brief in that appeal saying, we haven't actually started putting third-party payments in our Xbox mobile app yet because Apple is pursuing this appeal and might undo it all. We don't want to do a bunch of work and then Apple win the appeal, and then we have to undo it.

which would explain why Netflix has also not done this. But, you know, companies like Spotify and Amazon have maybe they just figure it's worth it and it's easier to undo. I don't know. But yeah, it's not over yet, but for the moment, epics on top. Well, good news, everybody. You now can play Fortnite in the worst possible way, which is on a phone. You can now play on a phone where it's really the least good way to play the video game Fortnite. The worst interface of all.

Eileen's on this story, and she came over to me, she's like, the Fortnite download is huge. It's big. Yeah, it's not a small game either. And it's also, I mean, one nice thing about Fortnite as opposed to some of the other, like, Warzone and some of these other games, they are usually run on separate servers where the phone people are not playing with the console or PC people. But in Fortnite's case, they have crossplay on all those platforms. Yeah, yeah. And I know. Which is one of the reasons Epic pulled Fortnite out of the iOS app stores in Europe,

even though they wouldn't have had to. There was no legal reason. They wanted one update for everything at the same time. They didn't want to have that be out of sync. Yeah. That's a big part of why the game is as popular as it is. But also, I have been worked by kids on their phones in that game. Of course.

So as much as we make fun of that method of playing, there are people who are really, really good on their phone. Yeah, if your reflexes are still fast, you can still do it. Yeah. So you think that this, let's go ahead, Brian. Oh, as you say, I noticed that this also around the same time that that happened, that the Patreon thing that was going to be a big problem with the Apple store, all of a sudden got lifted and we're now able to go back to the way things were with

for per episode charges. Yeah, that is directly related to the earlier order where Judge Gonzalez said, no, Apple, you have to let people link out to third-party ways to pay, and you can't take a cut of that. And so Patreon was able to say, oh, well, if we can link out, then great, we'll do that. They have temporarily suspended the end date for per episode creations because Apple's still appealing this rule, so they can't get rid of it permanently until that court case is decided. If Apple loses the appeal, then I expect Patreon will probably say, like, great, you can keep our episode creations.

Yeah, which I hope they do. Well, they're letting you do it to matter. Aren't they doing it no matter what? It's just not through the app, right? Isn't that the deal? Like, if you're using the iOS app, if it doesn't go the way they want to, the iOS app can't take or won't, they won't do the whole thing where they're going to share, yeah, they're going to share the percentage.

But if you're going through the website, you're going through, you know, Patreon.com, then you can still do the per episodes, I think. Yeah. As I understand it, the Patreon app still has Apple's in-app payments, and still that still takes 30% cut. But Patreon is saying, oh, if you want to back this one, click here, it kicks you out to Safari, and then you put your payment there, and then you don't have to pay the 30% cut, which for us on Daily Tech News show, we were like, well, if you pay through Apple, then it's 30% more, and then it would have been if you didn't. Yeah. And so that'll be clear. They'll be able to say like, hey, if you do it through the Apple system, it's going to be 30% more. Depending on how the creators do it, of course. Each creator can decide that for themselves. I think this is a good thing. It's easy to just say, oh, take that Apple, your dirty tricks. But also, I wasn't surprised to see them fight it as vigorously as they did. It's a huge portion of revenue. Why wouldn't they fight it? But I really am kind of glad they lost it, or at least, you know, seemed to be losing me.

I don't know how much revenue they're going to lose. I mean, I know they'll lose some. And maybe it's more than I think, but most of these companies just weren't using Apple's system at all, so they weren't getting any revenue from that. Now, companies will sometimes allow Apple's in-app payment for 30% more, right? Which means some people will use it where they weren't able to use it at all before. And honestly, I don't think it really.

loses, I don't, how, a lot of times people are like, ooh, kicking it out to Safari. I don't know. Maybe I'll just stick with the in-app payment system. It's, it's just, I don't know, it felt like Apple, which has piles of cash, uh, complaining about pennies. Yeah. You know, when, and, and I think it's, it's easy to forget, Apple doesn't take a cut of physical sales. No. So if you go to Wayfair and you buy some patio furniture, uh, Wayfair can use its own payment system. Apple doesn't take 30% of that. It is only digital stuff that Apple takes a cut of. And so I don't have a problem with Apple funding the app store by taking a cut of payments, but I do find this distinction to be somewhat arbitrary. Like, okay, so if I order something made of wood to be delivered to me,

you don't get a cut. But if it's digital, you do get a cut. Like, theoretically, those are different, I get. But you're saying you want the money to run the app store, and you're letting people like people who sell physical items, use the app store for free, basically, and subsidized by people who sell digital stuff. How is that fair? Yeah, which is arguably the larger enterprise because stuff's being physically built, shipped, managed. Like, it's not a digital thing as a server somewhere holding the thing that you now have. Now you have your digital thing. Yeah. The chair I ordered is a way bigger deal if you just look down the line of production all the way to sale. So it is arbitrary and weird. And I think it's gotten more arbitrary and weird over time.

This is an 08 kind of thinking. And we need to not do that anymore, Apple. So we're doing that. 2025 kind of thinking. Yeah, we need 2025 thinking. Exactly, Brian. Or even 26. Oh, now slow down.

Oh, shit, man. That's a, that's really pushing the limits. Well, anyway, we'll talk more about that. And I didn't know Jim was going to be on. That's great. I really like her. Jen's on Daily Tech News show, not DTNS Live. Oh, oh, okay.

Well, then I will, I will not be on the live stream. I'll do my best to follow up because I really like her work. But anyway, it'll be great. And I'm going to talk a little bit about some other stuff, too. I don't even tell people what it is until we get there. All right. Come and find out. Oh, you'll see a tease before the show.

But that'll be the answer may surprise you. Here's my clickbait for the day. Isn't it better to tell them what you're going to talk about? It probably is, but it would be really good if I remembered which one Roger told me I was going to do. You want me to tell you? Yeah, tell me what Roger and I decided before I find Roger's name. Oh, I know what it was. Sorry, it's the, where is it?

Hold on. Do I know? Shit. You know what? I don't know. How about adding support for the Godot game engine to Vision Pro? That's right. That is more of a Godot story than it is a Vision Pro story because it's a big deal for that open source.

One small kid on the block now, you know, taken off like crazy. and I'm going to talk about why they're tearing past people like Unity and even given the Unreal Engine a, you know, a challenge. And this is a big deal for them. So even though, you know, you could argue that device isn't as big as it should be, the fact that these guys are permitting other places is a big deal. We're going to talk about it today. That's what I was going to talk about.

The secret's out. Cool. And you're going to want to tune in. That's DTNS Live. That happens at 1 p.m. Pacific time, 2 p.m. mountain time. 4 p.m. Eastern time. And also, slots are still available for the workshop that I'm doing with Brian Brushwood. It now includes Justin Robert Young and Andrew Heaton as well as Matt Donnelly.

That happens in Austin, the weekend of June 27th. It's my birthday that weekend. So you can come celebrate my birthday with me. It's going to be a lot of fun. And we are going to spend time helping people understand how to do their individual weird thing, whether it's a side hustle or you want to make it your main hustle. All of us are doing that sort of thing on our own. And so we're going to share how we do it with the obstacles that we run into and how we've overcome some of them and all of that. So it's going to be

pretty fun and intense and you're going to be able to take away some action items. Actionable means law legal things, but you're going to be able to take action on the stuff we talk about. sure. If you want to sign up for that, best news ever.com, we'll take you right to the page on the scam stuff store where you can get more details. Nice. Go check it out. And early, happy birthday. We'll get to say this again as we get closer. Of course. You know, you don't look at day over 30. You're a young man, Tom. Never forget. All right. I'll see it. I'll see you too. Don't forget. Don't forget you're young. Yeah, never forget. how young you are. Let's get Randy in here. What do you think of that? Yeah, sounds good.

Known Nicole today. I'm busy with some family stuff, so we're thinking about her, but we won't have to think about Randy because it'll be here. That's how that'll go. Let's not even discuss Randy. No. We don't have to think about them, you know. I'll play this, though. Well, what do you recommend? Well, let's find out what we recommend. It's recommendals. Time for that fine episode thing we do every week where we talk about stuff we've seen on streaming services and tell you at home whether you should like it or not. You can still decide on your own.

You don't have to listen to us. But joining us today, Randy Jordan. Hello, Randy. Good morning, morning stream. Hello, I'm doing well. Yeah. I'm sorry to say our friend Nicole is not doing well. However, I did want to plug for her

that she and Mark have started back up their personal podcast. Yeah. Well, they got a brand new live stream. Yeah. We watched some of it Friday. It's great. Yeah, it was awesome. I love it.

I just think they are so entertaining together. And, like, that's, that's the thing. Like, TikTok got me really deep into couple streams or, like, couples who'd make comedy and couples who make, there's couples out there who make drama, couples out there who make horror movies together, like, little, little shorts. And, like, Mark and Nicole are as good to watch as any of them. So, yeah, everyone should. Big agree. Good, good recommendation. That was my recommendal, and I'll see you.

See you next time. Okay, bye. See you this weekend for Film Sack. We're watching Goonies. Just kidding. Randy's going to stay around for a bit here. While we talk recommendals, Brian, your first as always. And I see a clip.

What do you want to say about it? I'm going to say this about it. You're going to be listening to the making of a maybe a science fiction superhero film, kind of behind the scenes. Why on the world is your file not coming up? Oh, I know why. Scott is a dummy. It's not you at all to me. All right, here we go.

Here's your clip. And Action A crystal blacker than a million black holes The reality crystal We are but ants To the infinite power of Rastorcium Resortium

Without the T Made of Rizorcium That's what I said Ristorcium Resorcium No, that's not right It's a made up word, Peter I made it up

Yes, but you're mispronancing it Not to split hairs But Shane does have his own pronunciation Of my fucking word Correct. It's resourceium. Resorcium. Resorcium. There's no T, P. Resorceum. Resorceum.

You're all saying it slightly differently. I'm going to jump off the house. Okay, fuck it. Let's just riff one. What do you mean, Riff? BFOGT, big fight over glowy thing. I've shot this scene three times in two years. I grabbed the crystal from Turtle Dick. Please don't call me Turtlesick.

Blah, blah, blah. Bullshit, bullshit. Hope your writing is down. Yes. Then. Bam. Fighting, fighting, grabby, grabby. whooinks careful it's a very rare crystal this this onyx ball sack it's very rare and it's my subtext and i'd like it back you're gone kyle give eric his subtext back okay i'm sorry here's your subtext i don't know what this is why i love it this is called the franchise this um god what a sleeper

show i heard about this thing and put it on the list and then i didn't get around to watching it Tina i didn't get around watching until last week we started watching and this is is if you if you like veep if you like mythic quest with like a big funny ensemble cast where every character has some good depth and and character development this is this is like that it doesn't hit 100% all the time but it hits 80% all the time actually it hits 100% 80% of the time. That's fun. But it very much has that kind of vibe. You heard Daniel

Brule, in the first thing that I can ever think of that he's done comedy-wise, you know him as your Inglorious Bastards or, why am I blanking Zemo, Baron Zimo in the Marvel stuff.

Do you like that guy. He is great. Oh my God, he is so funny in this. Richard D. Grant, speaking of Marvel, your comic accurate loki from the um from the um from the loki tv show he's the only voice when i first heard it as the only voice i'd recognize it was but it was immediate it was like oh my gosh richard g grant is in whatever brian's watching he plays this kind of like um what am i doing here kind of actor like a seasoned british actor who why am i in this piece of superhero garbage yeah very

pretentious but like also um they give him the funniest lines do you remember those there were those guys on veep that they used to just give the funniest lines to um they do that with richard grant they save the best stuff for for him yeah veep veep is entourage only better oh yeah hell yeah oh yeah miles better than miles better yeah vip is a vip is an all-timer that just gets better at age it is it's and veep veep is kind of the bar by which all of these things should be should be measured um you heard Nick Kroll in there. I saw a couple of people recognize his voice. He's the one, he only comes in for one

episode as a villain called the gurgler. The gurgler? Oh my lord. Yeah, it has a past with Adam, the character that he called Turtle Dick. Hamesh Patel, you recognize he basically, he's kind of the

central guy in this whole thing, and he, you know him from the movie yesterday, if you have not watched yesterday, which is about an alternate history where the Beatles never existed and he knows the Beatles music really well so he becomes the Beatles. Yeah, I loved him in Station 11.

He was great in Tenant. The guy's awesome. Oh, yeah. He's great. He's great. Love that guy. He's your main character. He's the first assistant director that basically has to do all the work while Daniel Brule is the regular director who kind of is this

again kind of this inflated ego has to have things a certain way. kind of guy. I forgot he was in Avenue 5 as the stand-up comedian on Avenue 5 that was always... Yes, and this also has a very Avenue 5. I thought

of Avenue 5 as well when I was watching this. Very similar. Probably on the level, like I'd say Avenue 5 is like a 85% Veep. I mean, it's the same producer across all these, right? Veep Avenue 5 and this are all John Branden, I think.

Oh, is it really? Yeah. So, yeah, okay, that makes sense. I think he's co-creator. Music is by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. If you guys needed another reason to watch this, you've got music from 9-inch nails. Iya Cash is in this, too, and I want to draw attention to her because you know her from things like the boys. Welcome to Rexham. No, you're the worst. Let's see.

Welcome to Flatch. Okay. That was getting cut off. The Wolf of Wall Street, stuff like that. She's someone you'll recognize. and she's a producer who's got a little bit of a past with Hamesh Patel's character. Is it, I'm reading stuff that says it got canceled already. Is it true?

Did it? That's a bummer. It was. Yeah, it looks like it got canceled in January. Ah. But. Poop. We watched the finale, the season, apparently the season finale and series finale last night.

And it's very, it ties things up very, very well. So don't worry about feeling like you've got a cliffhanger. Okay. Yeah, I definitely, this popped up. This is Max, right? It's where this is. It's Max. Or soon to be HBO Max.

HBO Max. And it immediately jumped out and I went, oh, yeah, this is a thing I would get into. I didn't know it was tied to the creator of Veepe. Yeah. And there's even a funny thing in there that kind of seems to poke fun at Warner Brothers. God, there's a great bit that pokes fun of the whole Balmer developers speech. like almost to a T

which is great and then another thing that kind of makes fun of the Warner Brothers Batgirl controversy of you know of pulling something

from the from List and all this work goes to nothing for no reason Yeah if you're if you're a fan of the flailing around that HBO has done the last couple of years you must go follow

Duolingo right now Duolingo the company is unraveling in real time It's all being played out on social media. It's unfriking believable. Their social media team turned against them a few days ago and deleted everything they'd ever posted. And so it took a few days for these completely blank social media channels to get under the control of the evil overlords at Dual Ligo. And so now those people who have regained control of their own social media are trying to meme in their

way out of this and it's so cringe you know what it's from so originally the tech chief said in some interview his leadership principle is and he's new i guess that the company is reduce automate and delegate which sounds like fire news AI and then i don't know what he means by delegate but don't don't don't piss off your social media manager while they've got the keys to the castle yeah that's what's going on there it's just been it has been amazing to see this like this company is going down. They will be filing for bankruptcy soon. But in the meantime, they are meming like crazy. And it's hello fellow kids level stuff. Sweet. I love it. It is they, you know what? It's funny how that kind of real life, it's kind of like this kind of comedy. It's that style of

Veepe comedy of like everything's going to shit because we are, we are incapable of making good choices in real time. Right. All the people, the people in the highest positions make the worst decisions, while the people in the lower positions who are smart and know what they should be doing have no control, no power to do anything about it, very much like the franchise, which is available on HBO. Yeah, Max Max, and it's worth watching.

You think even though stuff's changing? Oh, for sure. Absolutely, yeah. Eight episodes, half an hour each. This is feel-good cringe comedy. You know, there's some cringe stuff in it because it's that style. it's the Avenue 5 cringe comedy

but um but it's really really funny and uh we totally dug it they won't hit every joke but man there's some episodes the Nick Kroll episode with the Gurgler is hilarious and then the the bridge episode which is the next to last one is also

hilarious like incredibly clever um it goes in incredibly clever place I love how Nick Kroll's busy making animated shows over on Netflix but then is making himself available for bit shots and everything else it's like yeah we need a weird one-off episode with a weird guy somebody get nick crowl on the phone it's so weird for sure yeah love it's great it's a great

uh great position for him to be in he's got a great agent for that sort of thing for sure uh there you go on max uh HBO max the franchise uh watch it and and be sad that there won't be a season two there you have it uh all right randy let's swing over to you what did you bring once again i go back and forth i i watch new things i watch things i watch things I've seen before. This week, I've been on a watching things I've seen before to see how they make me feel. Kick. I watched a movie that not only have I seen before, but we sacked it a couple of years ago. And I've got some of the early dialogue of the movie for you. It's so good, guys. All right. Here goes. So as I was saying, Gordy's home began airing in the fall of 96,

and it was an immediate hit. Ratings were huge, pretty good reviews, just really took off. Yeah. Then, uh, one day, we were shooting an episode in season two entitled Gordy's birthday, and, um, boom.

So one of the chimps, the place Gordy just hit his limit. And it was six. minutes and 13 seconds of havoc. Network tried to bury it, but it was a spectacle. People are just obsessed. You're kidding. I wonder you said you heard about that? That's why they don't unless you use chimps.

That's part of the reason. There's a growing Gordy's home fan base out there now. This Dutch couple paid me 50K to come in here and spend the night. Had an mask. Oh, man, my goodness. Tell us what we're seeing here. What is this? Nope by Jordan Peel.

And you just heard Stephen Wynn talking to Kiki Palmer and Daniel Kaluuya, explaining the backstory of what basically got them into, is affecting their business. So this backstory is about a TV sitcom that you're being made aware of fictional TV sitcom where a chimpanzee went nuts and killed people on stage. And Daniel Kaluja has inherited a horse ranch from his dad, Keith David, who he watched die in a very unusual and mysterious circumstance, which was basically bullets falling from the sky. And it just goes from there. It is just a very mysterious, very creepy, but so well directed.

and acted and such great sound design and so on and so on like this movie it has its little twists and turns but just every step of the way it is so good every little shot is so interesting

like you must rewatch this movie if you can like it is just it's a master work I don't know how Jordan Peel has gotten to this level so fast. Yeah he's awesome you do this is a film sack we did this for film sack is this one of the first film sack movies that you kind of watched as a I don't know as a follow on or I don't know how often any of us do that if we watch movies yeah yeah so like I also recently watched Inception but like that's just it's just how I roll like I will have times when I'm like okay I need something familiar or in the case of nope I had kind of forgotten some of it like you know you watch a lot of things you can forget bits and pieces and like I had completely forgotten this whole backstory about this nuts chimp and

And the way that they tell these stories is so mysterious. It's just fascinating to already kind of know what you're watching so you can look for the other stuff. Like there's this, the whole thing is like shot out in Santa Clarita. And there's this like carnival out in the, out in the desert. And like there's so many interesting things about this carnival that I remember, I remember just completely missing because I was busy. trying to keep up with what the actors are saying to each other. Sure. And it's so freaking interesting.

Yeah. When you have producers going, you know, going for 10 out of 10 set design and costumes, the costumes are amazing. You know, like Daniel Kaluja plays a horse rancher who also provides performance horses to Hollywood. And so he dresses a certain way when he's trying to sell his, you know, his product. And it's so interesting. his his costumes are so freaking interesting yeah but he's he's also just like he's amazing

stephen when is freaking amazing great it's really good like that was the guy talking in most of that clip and um like i i was just like man i'm going to have to go watch beef again now i'm going to have to like i'm going to have to find him in the walking dead i haven't seen uh you know any of the walking dead after like 2012 we shortly we stopped one watching The Walking Dead shortly after things happened to Stephen Wynne's character. I thought it was Stephen Wynne, by the way. Stephen Wynne? Is it when?

I thought it was Eun as well. I don't know. Sure. He, he, he spoiled the, he spoiled the, he spoiled Walking Dead for me. Yeah.

Invertently. Interesting. In a DragonCon, he's like, oh, he's always asking, said, do they, do they let you guys read ahead in the comics to see what happens to your characters, or do they recommend you don't do that? And he says, they do, they let us read ahead. So, yeah, I saw what happens to my character. and I said, oh, I haven't seen what happens to your character yet.

Yeah, I'd read the comic prior, so I knew, but it was still, it was still where I fell off. I just could not do. I couldn't go on. It's just, I'm sure there's value in going back and catching up, and I'm sure there's good stuff, but man, F that moment. Yeah. It's just, it's just a such a fine film, and you can pick any part of it. You can, like you can say i'm going to watch this for kiki palmer and you're going to really enjoy yourself because kiki palmer puts in such an incredible performance and she made this film when she was 28 yeah she's great she's mind-blowing she's great she's her career is just getting going man she got so much more to do uh also real quick on the this whole thing we have mentioned it but

one of my favorite character actors of all time michael wincott is in this michael yes he is and he plays a very michael wincott role a very very Michael. He is as Michael Wincott as he can be in this movie. I'd watch him read ingredients off the back of a milk carton. I love that guy. Like I say, it's not a spoiler that

Keith David dies because it's the very first thing that happens in the movie, but it's just sad because like you want more of him. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of those. His voice is kind of ASMR for me. Like it's very calming and

I don't know. There's something about his voice that does that to me. I started watching that new Duster show with Josh Holloway really digging it. It's only an episode in, so I can't really say how the whole series is yet. But Sawyer's all growing up, it's 20 years ago. It's so weird. Yeah. Very weird. It still looks great. But anyway, he's amazing and everyone's real good. But I didn't know until I started watching the episode that Keith David's all over this thing. And I love, I don't know how to put it. I like Keith David when he's just a little nuts. Yeah. And he's a little nuts in this. They live.

kind of Keith David. Yeah, it's hard to put my finger on what it is about him and his performances of when it's nuts enough. But he's great in Duster. If you haven't started watching that, it's freaking great. All right. Well, excellent recommendation there for Nope. And again, that is on Pacoq.

It is. As well as buying it or renting it somewhere else. Okay, there is that. Now I will play my clip. And you guys will hopefully be excited about this because I sure was. Here you go. Okay. All right.

All right, brothers. Listen, we still got each other. And when the time comes, we'll make these count. They won't stick around long. Jade, you don't know heat. I saw him. Croke and me both. Right, Crook?

We climbed a trashed pyramid. Saw streets near the river burning. Giants dancing in the flames. Then we saw the giants rip up Big Bridge by the roots and throw it at the moon. Black heart spinning end over end for you shredded smoke and never fill back.

No one asks me to smash him. There isn't a blade big enough. Jade, if I tell you to smash, you smash. All right, that guy you just heard right there was John Boyega, by the way. Oh, cool. This is a segment of the brand new season, season four of Love, Death, and Robots,

which I devoured and loved every four. freaking second of it. I think this is one of my favorite series of all time, and I was so happy to have more to do. Secret Level came in the interim, and that was also awesome. Same showrunners, same creators, so it was nice to basically get a video gamified version of what is essentially Love Death and Robots. Also awesome. People should watch that. So 400 boys sounds like a smelly gymnasium. Yeah, it really does. And it's nothing, that title will give you no hints as to what 400 boys this segment is about but that is what that particular segment is called it was my favorite so far although i bounce around and i don't know why we as humans have to always come up with favorites for things

um but like this and black mirror it's like impossible for people not to try to rank their episodes or whatever so i'm just going to tell people that all there is stuff here for everyone to love there's nothing about this that you should avoid if you are into this animation and and into what love of death and robots has always been since it's inception in 2019 um it is a mix of different animation styles and stories all told in relative short form by some amazing teams and studios and in some cases individuals and it is like going back to the mid 80s when i would go to the blue mouse or the midtown uh forgot the name of the theater tower theater to watch these animation festivals that would roll through town and i would eat that stuff up

like it was the greatest thing in the history of the world, and it's because it was. It was so good. And here's the truth of those festivals and of these episodes, and of anything like this, liquid television, whatever era you kind of got exposed to similar stuff like this. It's always a mixed bag of stuff that's maybe too weird for your taste or really awesome and amazing. It's the greatest thing you've ever seen. And then a lot of stuff in between.

But I appreciate all of it. Even the ones that don't land on me the most, I still love that they got made. I still love that someone's vision is there. there's some of the most artistic things you can even watch and all that said i'm going to tell you the three that really got me in this episode there's some returning stuff the first one's got the least good reviews because people are just weird about it but it's it's basically a a red hot chili peppers uh ireland Shane castle their slain castle famous performance they did it's recreated entirely it was open from a three uh originally so that's that's interesting

They re-did the whole thing with marionette, but it's not real marionettes. It's all CG. Like still CGI marionettes, but crazy good, like really realistic stuff as far as them looking like marionettes. And the reason I know that is because they have wires for everyone in the audience, everybody on stage. Oh, really? It is wild. It's worth seeing, but it really is just a music video. And so I see why people are, you know, not that freaked out about that one.

But the one, a couple of seasons ago, these guys did like a bunch of, uh, zombies but it was done in a tilt shift like camera way up on the sky kind of way oh yeah you remember that one they're back one with one called close encounters of the mini kind which is alien invasion but similar vibe um you see a wiener in it i'm warning in it that's just a thing to tell it you know uh but then my favorite three are spider rose because i'm still not even sure what the hell i saw but i loved it i freaking love spider rose uh i won't say i don't want to to spoil any of these. It was just, you know, my takes. 400 boys is probably my number

one. Spider-Rose, I'd put somewhere in the top three. And then if you like when they sometimes mix live action, then you'll like Galgotha, which is this one featuring Rised Arby. I was going to say, yeah, I saw that. Like, you pull it up in the, just on the website, and that's

the first one that Kenny show you silent trailers for. Yeah. And it's a little weird at first because you're like, wait a minute, is this a, like what are they doing here? And then you remember, oh, they've done this in the past with the freezer one with Tofer Grace and Oh yeah It's not super unusual for them to do a little mixed one

But those are inherently a little less interesting for me Just for those reasons How Zeke got religion Is a trip I cannot recommend this one enough Just know that it is dark And violent But holy shit

How Zeke got religion is cool I just the artistry on display here is Mind boggling I'll give you the short of it B-17 Flying Fortress Liberty Bell has the oddest mission of World War II, a journey into occupied France to bomb a church before the Nazis can raise an ancient evil. And it goes places. It is awesome. I freaking love that one. Anyway, all of them are very good. They've got some funny ones, some ones that are a little bit more serious. Again, you know, I'm not going to rank seasons because that's folly. I think all the seasons have stuff worthy to watch. And I would recommend if you've

never seen all these just sit down and binge all four seasons they're shorts they're all tiny little episodes they're not long um and i hope you'll have as good a time as me this stuff is like gold for me i just absorb it i i'm having a hard time thinking of an anthology series that got multiple seasons that wasn't good like this is just this is just how it goes if you're getting multiple seasons you're making really good stuff yeah i think that's true we're in we're living in a bit of a renaissance period for anthology I think. You know, Fargo's a really good example of that working really well, but there's certainly

other examples of it. The White Lotus is essentially an anthology series or, you know, per season anyway. So either seasonal anthology or episodic, it's, I just love it. And they don't, and this is a case where they don't really tie anything together. Like, none of this stuff is intrinsically connected these episodes. But it is fun to see them, you know, see them come, some of these guys come back and do new stuff. Like you're going to recognize some of the style.

this season from some returning studios. My biggest beef. I only got one huge beef. And it's an episode called The Screaming of the Tyrannosaur. And it is very cool. The concept is cool. It's basically outer space gladitorial stuff. Whoops, there we go. Very, very cool. I don't want to give too much away about it. It was directed by Tim Miller, who's founded this whole Love Death and Robot show. So here's my problem. Mr. Beast is in it and it's impossible not to notice Mr. Beast. I think it kind of, it just took me out. So you don't need to put popular YouTubers in your shit.

Could have been anybody else. And literally anybody could have been this character. Is Netflix having a hard time with people showing up to watch these? I mean, I don't think so. That's why it bugged me so bad because it just made me go, really? I mean, no particular beef. against Mr. Beast, Mr. Beef. But anybody, anybody could have done it.

There wasn't anything special about the performance. It's all mo-capped. His face kind of looks like it, so it's creepy and weird. Everything else in the episode is badass and cool. I don't need to see no Mr. Beast in there. Yeah. Every now and then, you hear this about Black Mirror. Talking to a coworker, and they'll be like,

I love Black Mirror, except that one appearance of, and they'll name someone they hate. I hate Aaron Paul and he was in a I hate John Hamm, whatever, whoever it is. And I always just wonder like, could, was the show made for him though? Like what was Mr. Beast in from the beginning? I don't know. I mean, it is a thing where he's running, the character he's playing is playing this sci-fi leader of ceremonies, master of ceremonies that's, that's running this gladiatorial

combat thing. So he's on the mic going. It's like a future version of Mr. Beast. A little bit. Yeah. But they could have done it almost with any, like, get Bob, right, not Bob Hope. Stuncasting kind of stuff. I don't know why I said Bob Hope, but like a popular,

like MoCap Pat Sayjack or something, like something with a little bit of like heft and time on them on their backs, but just like you're from Hartendale. Just the hot freaking, you know, YouTube guy, F that shit. That annoyed me. Other than that, though. And again, I think the. episode is still worthy of seeing. It's really cool. It's just those moments where I was like, Mr. Beast really, what are you doing here? Anyway, it was great. I loved it. That's love death and

robots. All four seasons are up and available. I have gone back and started all of them again because I love them so much. And if you haven't ever watched this, you should. If you have an ounce of artistic appreciation in your body. That is a strong recognition, man. I don't want to. I mean, I feel like it's almost like a I think this is going to definitely not there are people who are going to see this sort of thing I don't get it.

And that's okay. It's totally fine. But man, do I get it? It just put it in my veins, this stuff. I love it so much. I was going to say, is this the fourth time Scott's

recommend this series? But then I went and looked to quicktms. Dot L.I. And it's only the second time Scott has recommended. Yeah, I think I recommended season maybe three.

Might have been two. I don't remember How far back we started doing these. But 2019, the first season is, it's all good. There's nothing bad. Go watch it all. Even the ones you think are weak, it doesn't matter. They're still cool.

All right? I wish everyone in the world, if they wanted it, could get the experience of going to see Spike and Mike's Festival of Animation in a movie theater in the 1990s. Yes, dude. It was like nothing I'd ever experienced in my life. and having a crowd there and having like they would show three dozen shorts like it was a lot and so of course there were some things that didn't land right things that you just didn't love love sure but like there was so much and they had always kind of made they always kind of put the

best stuff at the beginning in the end so like it was worth staying through and seeing the best stuff yeah oh for sure and these guys started like as early as well as I say early I guess not that early. But anyway, 1977, those guys started doing their thing, ran all the way through the 80s. In 1990, they renamed it the sick and twisted. Then it really took off anytime it was in town. And this is such a pre-internet time that would not happen now this way. The way it happens now is Love Death and Robots and Secret Level. And this is how we get it now. I don't know that's good or if it's bad, but all I know is, you know, like the cat came back. I don't know if you remember this one somebody did the cat came back video it's about this cat that won't die and it uses that

music from the song yeah it is so it is so burned into my head anything from um oh who's the guy that did the real sketchy stuff with color pencils uh bill plimpton yeah bill clinton oh i love it when i see a bill plin um simpson's opening he's done a few they're amazing and yeah he's great But the list of creators who had a short in Spike and Mikes before they became famous is unbelievable. Oh, yeah. It's unfriking believable that John Lasseter and Brad Bird were featured in Spike and Mikes before they became famous. Yeah, it's real, real good. I recommend all of it.

Go check it out. Available now, Netflix. Hopefully they just keep making this shit. And I know they're going to, they've got a second season already approved for Primes. version of his uh the the secret level show which i also absolutely loved the 40k episode of that one it just lives in my brain all day here's a question for you do you think uh love death and robots would find a wider audience if it had a different name yeah but i kind of like it that it doesn't it's like liquid television it's like spiking it's like if you know you know kind of thing yeah i kind

of like that it's that i don't want it to be too mainstreaming i want it to be edgy and hard to get into a little. Okay, Scott. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. It's hard to explain. Like, part of its charm is that it's avant-garde and kind of pushing limits.

I kind of need that. So, anyway. All right. I love it all. That's going to do it for us. Randy, what's going on with film sack this week? What do we doing? We are watching the go-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-es?

The go-o-neas. The gonias. The gonias. The gonias. Oh, cool. Yeah, it's a flower, maybe. I don't know what's going on. I've never seen the Goonies.

I know that sounds stupid, but I'm going to see it for the first time this week. Everybody's got one of those movies that you know, that you haven't seen that everybody else in the world is seen. What's your worst defender on that, Brian? What do you think the movie you haven't seen? The English patient probably is the one that I have left. Like, I've fulfilled a lot of the ones beforehand that I'd never seen. Footloose was a late thing for me. Like, I didn't see footloose until 10, 15 years ago.

Oh, geez. I didn't know that. That's a big one. I mean, I figured I pretty much knew what it was about. It turns out you were right. Yeah, pretty much knew exactly. Like, ah, exactly what I thought it was. Pocus is a good example, too.

Didn't watch that until last year. Yeah, that was about that was. And regret every second. Yeah. I saw that one late too. But like, yeah, I haven't seen the English patient either. That's a funny shared one. Randy, do you have a thing that you're like?

One of the top 50 films of all time is this Brazilian film called City of God. and I just keep saying I'm going to watch it and I just never get around to it. Yeah, I think I know what that. Well, I think I've even seen that one. That's the one. It's all in Portuguese, right? And it's, uh, oh yeah, I have seen this. It's a great, that's a great movie.

It's, it's one of those things that always comes up on the, on the lists of like, you should have, or you should have seen this if you like movies at all. And I just keep forgetting. And I need to watch it. Yeah,

that was, that was a big winner of lots of awards and things. I remember, right? It's also real dark. So if you want to, if you want to have a nice depressing time. Terrific. Good luck. Well, that's great. I have seen Slumdog Millionaire, which is also super dark.

Oh, yeah. On my list of shame. I haven't seen Slumdog. Oh, really? Shia yvala. Yeah, that's one you should see. And you know, I love me some Danny Boyle. I see all his movies, I think, usually, but I haven't seen that one.

All right. Well, there you have it. Randy, have a fantastic week. We're going to watch the Goonies. We're going to make fun of Scott, as always. Yeah. It'll be great. be a great time yep be there or don't uh all right there you go off he goes hey that's the end of

the show today i don't know if you know this brian but we're done it it's it sort of i got a jeff email i'm going to read real quick i love this one yeah it's real good jeff sire good old pal the show known him forever bronco wrote in and says uh hey brian and scott this is jeff in canada here is a note about the mackenzie brothers from sc tv bob and dung mackenzie in the 1970s canadian content was law uh laws emerged requiring a certain percentage of radio and television content to be Canadian. I kind of remember someone else talking about this. I remember

why or what, but anyway, this helped foster our own talent preventing them from being overshadowed by the entertainment in the industry by the U.S. By the 1980s, after our arts sector developed, we began exporting comedians and music to you guys, having matured under these protections.

It's true. Lots of them. Mike Myers, Jim Carrey. I mean, Dan Aykroyd, I mean, the list goes on and on and on. Yeah, Norm McDonald, all those guys. Anyway, he says, however, some of the rules were a bit impractical for TV. A certain percentage of the show had to be about Canada. Wow.

It was like the PSAs and cartoons when you and I were kidding. Right, totally, yeah. Kind of weird. He says, it didn't matter if the entire cast and crew were Canadian or if the show was simply made in Canada. They also had to discuss Canadian stuff. SCTV ran into problems because they kept setting generic, setting, kept the setting generic, so it wasn't Canadian enough. The White North album, Great White North album, rather segment, was a response to this.

It was essentially saying, oh, you want to see Canadian? Hold my beer, bud. Great White North is how we view the stereotype of ourselves. Our accent, our love of hockey, the way we dress, all of it. It is every Canadian stereotype we've ever faced, multiplied, and mirrored back. I never really looked it that way. I assumed it was us doing that, but you're right. It's coming out of there. It would be like us, you know, doing a TV show about some dudes who live in a trailer,

eat nothing but cheeseburgers, fire guns. Yeah, yeah, you guys, but they gave us such a gift with this. I love the McKenzie brothers so much. Oh, my God, they're so good. He signs at Jeff Seyer from Grafton, Ontario, Canada, and in parentheses, not the 51st state now or ever. We're with you, buddy. We're totally with you, yeah. Although I wouldn't mind being your sixth province or fifth, whatever, however we mean you got there.

You know, if you don't mind a non-contiguous landmass, Colorado would be a great, you know, Utah and Colorado would be a great sixth province or seventh province. We'll get some kind of tube travel in the air or whatever we got to do. We'll make it work. Anyway, that'll do it for today. Frogpants.com slash TMS. He sent that via email, which is the morning stream at gmail.com. And as always, you can send in your voice message. your texts and your AI

red text, if you like, over to voicecast.com.app slash TMS. It's going to do it for today. Brian, let's play a song. Okay, this one is going out to Logan Larson, one of my coaches for my time management class with no better you. Still time to sign up.

By the end of the month, you can sign up and still be part of it. Logan says, Hello, Scott and Brian. Today marks, what would have been my sister's 34th bit a birthday. It's been 13 years since she fought and lost her battle with breast cancer, and she was truly unforgettable. Though her time with us was far too brief, she taught me the importance of cherishing every single moment. In loving memory of her, I would be grateful if you

could play a cover of Green Day's Goodridden's Time of Your Life or Pink Floyd's Time. Both songs remind me of the impact of living life to the fullest. Your show has been a constant source of joy through good times and hard times, and I want to thank you for the light you bring into the world, wishing you continue joy in all you do with warmer guards, Logan Larson. Oh, that's very nice, man. I'm sorry about your sister. Yeah, it's tough. I went with your first choice, a cover of Green Day's Good Riddens, and this is one that is also

very touching because of the performer and the way it was done. Glenn Campbell, you know, recently going through dementia, Alzheimer's issues, put out album in 2008 when he still had a lot of his faculties together called Meet Glenn Campbell and wanted to make sure he included this one on his album. It's a cover of Green Days, Goodridden's Time of Your Life. Here is Glenn Campbell. Time grabbed you by the wrist, directs you where to go. So make the best of this test, and don't ask why. It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time.

It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope you had the time of your life. So take the photographs and still frames in your mind Hang it on the shelf in good health and good time Tattoos of memories and dead skin on trial While it's worth it was worth it all the while Something unpredictable But in the end it's right

I hope you had the time of your life. It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right, I hope you had the time of your life. It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right, I hope you had the time of your life Hello, Hello, I'm a tailor, Hello, I'm a tailor,

and your pant size is frog. You're always welcome at frogpants.com. Beabababit.