The Morning Stream - TMS 2827: Squid Combinations

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Every Hug Is a Motorboat. It's Palindrome Week! Edging in the yard. You're not evil, you're just wrong. At Korean BBQ You're the Lord of the Rings. Hoo Flung Dung. Dancing With me, Cheek to Cheek. Boat Sushi Train. Get on the bus! No Half Measures for Crazy Neighbor. Let Him Cook! Retirement Queen. Gary Cherone Defender. Very Juniper Forward. Horse Lovin Girls. Scott's Menstrual Cramps with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Who flung dung? Dancing with me cheek to cheek. Boat sushi. train. Get on the bus. No half measures for crazy neighbor. Let him cook. Retirement queen. Gary Sharon Defender. Ferry Juniper Forward. Horse-loving Girls. Scott's menstrual cramps

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The morning stream. Maybe I can help you. I am Boba Fett. Hello everyone and welcome to TMS. It's, what is it, Thursday, May 22nd, 2025 is the year. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian. Hi, Brian. Hello. You know, something we haven't even mentioned this week is that these are all palindromic dates if you're in the U.S. So it's 5-2-2-25. So 5-2-2-5. Oh, right. And tomorrow will be, tomorrow will be 5-2-3-25. Oh, my gosh. This little stretch is a rare one, isn't it? It's a rare one, yeah. Oh, that's cool. All right, well, you know, all you numerologists. I'm until the 29th. Yeah. Enjoy it for the remainder of this tiny little month that went to. fast, all right? That's right. Have fun while you can. I always say, hey, it's the show. We're here. We got Thursday all lined up for you. Windy coming in later. We're going to talk about, we're going to have a

deeper dive into the concepts of true empathy for somebody else. And I'm afraid I'm a bit of an example on this one. You'll see what I mean when we get there. Okay. All right. Not in a fun way, I'll say. Oh, no. It's not too bad. You care too much. Are you saying you care too much, No, really it's just about me strapping a tens unit to my guts and trying to simulate a period when I... Oh, I did hear about this. I didn't see the video, but I heard about this. Yeah, so she wants to expand on that a bit. We'll talk about it. I did something I really liked last night, and that is discovered a Korean hot pop Korean barbecue buffet place that I didn't know was around. Apparently, this is a place my brother had already recommended, but I don't remember him telling me to go there.

And we got one that just opened up near us. It's pretty funny that goes it used to be. an Australian steakhouse and they still have yeah and they still have this huge Australian kangaroo slash continent shape logo just out on the front and I'm like

you guys need to take that down what are you doing that's not the shape of Korea it's like the the sushi boat boat place that we have in South Denver that was one of those conveyor belt sushi places but instead of a conveyor belt they actually had a waterway with um boats that they put the sushi on it would float around and you just grab what you want and um uh they changed owners

and the owners changed it to sushi train and they put a train in that little moat and took out all the water but they kept the boat shape on the sign so it's a boat that says sushi train oh nice look yeah i don't mind converting converting's fine because you got the stuff to go and convert it But these guys are just like, all right, it's called Ambu, and here's our name, and here's the things we do. And then right next to it, a giant Australian flag, essentially with a... Come in for some Korean barbecue, mate. Yeah, it's very odd. But anyway, the way they do it is each table's got the built-in barbecue thing in the middle, the hot pot stuff on the side.

So your stove is your table. And pretty normal for a place like this. But we go in there. And it's that. And then they have buffet style for all the add-ons, all the... Right. The veggies, the sauces. Yeah.

Crabbs and even at crawfish there. They had all kinds of weird, like, you know, squid combinations. Just weird stuff. And then they had the chili oil we like a lot, the crunchy stuff. That was, they had tons of that. Yeah, the garlic. So all these things. So we go in there and I was like, all right, well, this looks cool.

What are we doing? And the way it works is at night anyway. They have a lunch special, but for dinner, they do a $22. all you can eat either hot pot or cream barbecue either one's all you can eat stay there as long as you want get all the meat you want whatever um and it was so freaking good like i'm still kind of burping it up but it's okay you know i like it i'm actually happy we've had a couple of those places opened up in our vatola we took over in a bed that has been a couple things since village and left um the the the one we went to and we made the mistake of going with

Crazy Neighbor who likes to go all out on things. You know, there's no half measures for Crazy Neighbor. And so they had the all you can eat, but it's all you can eat both Hot Pot and Korean Barbecue. And that's, the food is all fantastic. I love it. But it is, it feels like you're working as a sous chef and you are constantly doing things.

You're barely having time to enjoy the food. You have to shove it in your mouth because, wait, Oh, I'm cooking this. I'm cooking this. And I don't know if it's this way at the one you went to, but they kept the original tables and layout of the village in. And these tables for four people having a barbecue in front of each person, no, no, I guess it's a central barbecue and then a hot pot in front of everybody. That's great room if you don't need to put anything else on the table, like all of the sauces and all of the veggies and all that's for a thing. Sure. So they had to wheel up a tray, like a rolling cart, which they did for everybody, wheel up a rolling cart next to everybody to have all of the food on there. And which means the two people on the end are constantly like, oh, what did you need?

You need more of the steak? Sure, here's more steak. Oh, what did you need? You want some more bok choy? Here's the bok choy. It's a lot. I should have gotten the tip at the end of that meal. Yeah, you're basically your very own episode of the bear over there,

just kind of trying to keep it all together. it was it wasn't so bad uh we you know we kind of took our time and it wasn't super busy but it's nice because they had the they have the tables we are at these were all new tables and they had them you know the stove stuff's built into them so there's two on each side of the booth and because it's just kim and i we could just choose whichever hot thing they want to they probably do they have the other ones covered up so you could actually use those as storage yeah in fact they're they're actually they look like table um unless you heat them up they take the they take the they take the chunks out of the table as opposed to yeah they don't even do that it's just like

straight up like uh what i can't even think what this is like um there's stoves like the electric stoves you know they're basically just they're just flat and oh gotcha okay it's like that so there's no grill there no like other apparatus it's just it's either on or it isn't and if it's on then you don't want to touch it because it's hot or whatever so there's like a white table uh with these with these little rings and then you know where to put your stuff based on where those rings are and then you kind of control your own temperature and everything and then the barbecue thing in the middle they put that one is like a cut out you know basin type thing because they've got to the room for all that all the the metal grading and heat and that sort of

and because we didn't do barbecue she just immediately puts this glass cover on that and then that's just now flat table part of the table see that's the way to do it yeah pretty good you do it uh yeah need to do one or the other needs to be just tina and i so we can take our time and not feel like who are having to feed a whole table and get stuff off the cart for everybody and not try and do both. I agree because you're not there to, you know. I'm not there to cook, like,

I'm there to cook, obviously, but I'm not there to not enjoy the food because I'm too busy managing my stuff, the central stuff, and all the stuff on the cart for other people. I want, you know, I want to just sit back and cook it, enjoy it, and savor it,

but not be, be stressed out by it. Yeah, you don't want it to feel like work. You want to have it feel like a fun timeout. So this is the place. It's Ambu, Hot Pop Barbecue Buffet, the one in South Jordans, where we went, and it was fantastic.

If you're in the area, it's definitely worth it. And the price, I mean, compared to, you know, you're going to spend $22 bucks at McDonald's these days, let alone, you know, anywhere else. That's a great price. Yeah, I don't know what the ones by us are. I think I want to say the, when we did both, it was 40-something per person,

42 per person or something like that it feels like but i'll bet if we just did one or the other would be closer to that price yeah it's not bad and they depends on the you know they may have deals for like this place has a lunch thing for like 16 or something that's great yeah but lunch deals are weird because you don't you kind of have a limited time most people for lunch they don't they can't just go in there forever so having an all you can eat lunch deal at a hot pop place that seems a little insane because it's just like trying to maximize your value right you're just like oh okay hurry up and cook it we got 20 minutes before the big meeting anyway it was good though I enjoyed it

I recommend it there's a few of them in the valley and I'm sad I took so long to do it I got some I enacted some revenge yesterday Brian I'd like to share with you yeah a little bit of revenge and excellent was it served cold I hope so it was served you know what yeah it was cold I'll explain

okay so Kim and I are doing yard stuff yesterday after we kind of sewed things up down here, went outside, did some mowing, edging, all that stuff. Kim and I were edging. Uh-huh. That's going to turn into some messages in chat, of course.

Sure. I didn't even know what that meant until about a month ago, and was it here or John? No, it was John who filled me in on what edging was. Yeah, that one was not here. So now I know. Or maybe it was a tally in here. I can't remember. Anyway. Oh, you know what? I think that's right. It just feels like a tally thing, doesn't it?

So anyway, we're out there doing that, and I'm mowing, and I got the cool green mower thing. You and I share the ego thing. Love that thing,'s great. And it's out there doing stuff and, you know, cutting grass. And I thought, I had done a pretty good sweep of the area to make sure there weren't any, you know, dog bombs on the grass or whatever. But the neighbor who's always pooping over on that corner, they've been pretty good lately. Like, we haven't had a big influx or anything. but I apparently there is one and I had missed it but here's the good thing about it all right now

I don't mind you know if I see him beforehand obviously I pick them up throw them you know take care of it but I go I go to this part where it just kind of curves and it aims directly where they live because they live in these townhomes townhomes adjacent to us over here and I went over it and I hear and it's got and I've got the I don't have the bag on I have a the little side side pipe thing because I don't want to it's not high enough grass it's good for the grass to have a little bit of clippings in there and right it keeps the keeps some shade on the on the ground and and gives the the plant something to eat their own exactly they eat their own so I hit this thing and I hear like that sound uh-huh it horks out of I assume it was cold this is the cold part

reserved cold part. Yeah. It horks out the side of that vent and slaps right up against the side of their brand new, um, oh, is that a, not Kia. No,

it is Kia. What's the Kia EV6, I guess? They have an EV6, yeah. It's the bigger. Oh, no, EV9 is the big one.

It would be the EV9 is like a three seat or three row or two row. Yeah, it's like seven seats or something. The big one. And it was just the way it, they had it parked was a little bit like kitty corner. and aimed three quarters to where I was and it just went on the side of the back

panel of that thing. That's some good launch. Yeah, it was really good launch. Yeah, it wasn't bad, but also it's very, where that turn is, they're very close, which is why they use our yard all the time

because it's just so adjacent to where they live, but I didn't feel bad about it. It was fine. Oh, my God. What great a, like you probably couldn't have done that if you had tried.

No, no. It wouldn't have worked. The perfect storm of horking the poo. And it wasn't all of it. It was just like a smattering, but it was enough for me to grin and keep going. So I just kept going. Yeah, I didn't worry too much about it. I didn't tell them about it.

I just let it be. You know, look, I didn't put the poo there. They did. Yeah, yeah. That's their poo. You know, I'm not going to go over there and wipe it down. You're just returning their poo to them. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going back to the library and putting my book in the little slot. That's all I'm doing. so I did and everything went fine and our yard looks great now so congratulations well done sir jinks says return to sender egg exactly you go if you get to flung it right up the dog's butt you would but this will be a nice alternative yep there you go all right we got a phone call i got to play scuba geek wrote in this about so on monday well you were out but i know you heard the show bobby was talking about how uh the sound moves in water and it moves faster in water than it doesn't air because it's dead

right and the atoms are closer together so they just basically conduct the sound yeah which surprised me i thought it'd be i thought the obvious answer was there but also i would have done really well on that quiz but obviously i wasn't wasn't there to play it were you doing like the stereotype with jeopardy where you're you're watching it and you hear the you hear the statement and then you say it before the person says it is that what you were doing in the car totally totally was almost the old time that's great i knew i knew the biggest desert was antarctic antarctica And Arctica. Yeah.

It's not easy to say, Alex. It's a hard word. It's one of those. Ken Jennings. But here we go. Here is the scuba geek thing about that deal. Because he's got some experience, it turns out. Does scuba diving.

It's his whole thing. Oh, cool. So here you go. Hello, Shark and Barakuta. This is scuba geek. Building on the discussion that Bobby was talking about with the variance of the speed of sound in water versus air. When scuba diving, this is something you learn about fairly quickly. because when you are underwater and a sound occurs, because it travels so much faster than it does in the air, it hits both your ears at the same time.

So when the sound occurs, your brain can't tell where that sound came from. So you'll learn when you hear something, stop and look around 360 degrees to try to figure out where that sound came from because you can't distinguish where it is. So that's it. Nothing terribly exciting, but about a cool little fun fact. Love the show. Have a great day. Goodbye. All right. I like this call for many reasons.

One of them is Scuba Geek sounds like he has naturally been born with a voice that's been slowed down to 0.5x speed. And that's amazing because he's talking at a regular rate. It's just that it's way down here. Yeah, yeah. Thing. It's very cool. That's cool. Wow.

But also, I didn't know this. Have you ever been in the water and heard a sound and went, oh, shit. it's right in front of me no it's behind me I've never scuba but I've snorkeled and I never even thought about that that yeah like when you're snorkeling the sound that you're hearing like if Tina's trying to get my attention

to look at something she'll go brr-br-br-br-wrought right yeah yeah and I'll hear it both ears I'd even think about it it'll be like where is she where is she I wonder if movies ever try to get that right I'm trying to think of like the abyss or something did they ever mess with sound

like play on that like yeah Yeah, I mean, because you, yeah, I don't know, you'd have to explain it to the audience wouldn't understand why, you know, and Harris is over here yelling at Mary Elizabeth Master Antonio, and she's looking all around, like she doesn't know where the sound is coming from. Always yelling at her, dude. Always yelling at her. Yeah, you never gave up on anything your whole life. Don't give up now. He's just a yelling bastard. He is. Well, at least he got to do CPR on her nude boots.

That's what I always think of. I know, I know, yes. It's hard not to. All right, we got another call. This came in via Brett, who wanted to talk about Gary Sharon and his time with Van Halen, another follow-up on that discussion. Do we have a Gary Sharon defender?

I don't know if this is so much a defender as it is a memory, another kind of nostalgic look back. Observation. Sure. So we'll play that and see what he has to say. Another Eddie Van Halen superfan chiming in here. While I didn't love the Van Halen,

Halen 3 album with Gary Chiron, their tour with him was amazing. He had enough of a rock voice to cover the David Lee Roth stuff well, and enough vocal range to cover the Sammy Hagar stuff well. I used to download and share live bootlegs, and I noticed that they pulled out some classics on the Sharon tour, like Mean Street, that they hadn't done live since the early 80s. Rest in peace, Eddie, and love the show, though. So a little bit of a defense of Sharon's work, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Defense at least of the Sharon tour, which is actually pretty impressive if he's able to do you know because they're they're going to spend

they only had one album with Chiron or as AI calls it Chorone Chiron Chiron yeah the the fact that he was able in a concert where they're going to be doing

all of the Van Halen Library the fact that he's able to step in be like yeah I can do the Hagar stuff I can do the David Lee Roth stuff no problem so that's cool yeah that is cool I don't have any, I don't have any like strong feelings about the time he was in there other than I just remember feeling like Van Halen was just in a different place and it was kind of a different band and I was in my time with it was kind of over. That's just where I was then.

Yeah. And I think we, and we still do this, but growing up and listening to music, you, you always think of the lead vocalist. as the captain of the team, right? He is always the, the, the, the, the, the, the president of the band. Sure. Sure. And, you know, you get to things like the J. Giles band, and you're like, wait, that's not, that's not J. Giles singing?

Who's not singing? Peter Wolf? What? Yeah. But, um, but then when a band comes through and says, yeah, our, our lead vocalists are important, but they're, they're replaceable. They're not disposable, but they're, we can bring in. new one and still have the meat of the band be the same and so that was just a weird a weird thing

for us growing up i can't think of another there probably some really good examples i'm forgetting but other bands where well the best best example i can think of where it's good like it actually proved the band i think or at least it felt like they didn't skip a beat was was acdc i felt like that just worked oh a great example perfect example acedc yeah if anything it brought them into their highest moments of like I'm not I don't I'm not even saying that Bond Scott was a problem or that he was holding anyone back I just there's something about the

momentum of the band the timing of all that back in black it was just an all time banger so Brian Johnson's you know edition worked fine but there are plenty of examples of like journey it's hard for me to want to take journey seriously for really for a bunch of reasons

and he's fine it's not that the guy can't sing he can in fact he does a really good maybe this is the problem it feels more like an impression of Steve Perry than it's a thing. Right, right. Because that was his whole goal. I mean, he was in a journey cover band and the goal was to sound as much like Steve Perry as possible.

Pink Floyd is kind of an example. Rebel Scum brings up, but Roger Waters and David Gilmore were in the band. Like, they brought in David Gilmore after the band had been established, I think even while Sid Barrett was still in the band. So Waters and Gilmore were in the band together for several albums. before Waters left

and left Gilmore is the only vocalist. So it wasn't really a replacement as much as it just was, oh, Gilmore can do vocals? Great, let's use him on some songs. Let's use the two of them together on some songs. Yeah, and we'd already heard a lot of that with like, you know, when they did the wall

or, you know, you hear something like comfortably numb and you hear the combination of their lyrics. You hear both vocals. Later on, when you got Gilmore by himself, it's fine. It's like, oh. Genesis. Great example, Eric, for us. Oh, that's a good one.

Yeah, Peter, Gabriel leaving, Phil Collins, coming in. And really, that was such a shift. The band went from being a artsy Prague group into full-on pop in the space of two albums with Phil Collins. It was, you know, they really switched gears. And I think Phil, Phil was drummer for a couple albums? Or was he drummed the whole time? Well, he may have been the whole time. I'm not sure.

I don't remember. I mean, he was definitely drummer when they started, when he started with him, but I don't remember how that all panned out in the end. Maybe he quit doing that. And I did talk about Genesis for Soundography, but it was the first season. So I don't remember, I don't remember Phil Collins' tenure. I mean, he was definitely doing. Eric Harris confirms he was not the original drummer, but he was, he did overlap quite a long time with Gabriel. Oh, yeah.

Collins was only doing, if anything, the occasional backing vocal. If that, yeah. You'd see him. In fact, I was just looking at a poster yesterday of the band at that era. And it's Phil Collins there in the back playing like obscure drummer guy. Was Gabriel in some goofy clown outfit or something? No, it was like, he looked very different though. He had like longer hair and it was weird.

Not used to his look, but yeah. New order. Okay, Biggie Bob official. New order is kind of a good example, except they changed like once, um, uh, hold on, I'll get it. Oh, dude, I can't remember the dude's name He committed suicide, and then they decided they'd be New Order. Because it was Level Terrorist apart was the song

and the vocalist Before they, dang it, before they changed to New Order. Ah, I can't remember. Am I evil because my favorite New Order song is the track they did for Blade, which is just, it's not even vocals. It's just that, I don't know why that would make you evil,

but it just makes you wrong because he orders best songs or things like Bizarre Love Triangle, True Faith. What's the one where the guy comes back from the war to find his wife on the floor? Like if he's going to sing the lyrics because I'm making the rhyme. Holding a letter that says that he was dead. So you find out he's a ghost. Oh, man. I mean, I love that band.

You're not wrong about all that. Thank you, Molly. Jeez, Ian Curtis, could not remember his damn name. Nice. But, yeah. It's a good title. You're not evil. You're just wrong.

I would like what you like, but the other good mod, I would, you know what I'll give it up to Lincoln Park in this recent, this recent new singer lady. She's freaking fantastic. She's really good. Yeah. So it can be done. Big shoes to fill. And I think the modern bands have bigger shoes to fill with that sort of thing.

Oh, yeah, especially while it's happening and they're, well, they're much more tribal with our music than we used to be, I think. And so when, when, you know, no, it's Chester or nobody, but then they bring in this amazing singer and it's like, you've either got to keep your feet planted and say, nope, I'm not going to, I'm not even going to entertain the thought that she could be better. but um but it would be like if you're going to bring sound garden together again right now and you don't have chris cornell i don't know how you do that that doesn't seem right right right that seems you know if they decide uh grohl and nova select decide to to reform nirvana without kubayne i mean that would be weird with that of lambert there you go there's the there's an example of how it can work yeah yeah you can pull it off it was tough i mean the paula rogers years people were dismissive even though Paul Rogers is a great singer,

but people were very dismissive of Paul Rogers stepping in and doing the Freddie Mercury stuff. But Adam Lambert, I saw them on tour. It's a bummer John Deacon. Doesn't want anything to do with the band because he just did not like the limelight, didn't like the, he was the Quiet Beetle, whatever the Queen equivalent of the Quiet Beetle was.

sure but um but brian may still rocking it uh still doing vocals on his songs and roger taylor still doing vocals on stuff like i'm in love with my car and and then lambert um doing doing plenty with um i mean i think i think it helps that you have so much time pass you know yeah that's probably it right like if they were to do it if if um uh what's a good i mean the the the the lincoln park example If it was within months, it's like, okay, Chester's dead. We have a new female vocalist. Guess what? We're in.

We're keeping it going. Then people will really, really be pissed off. Yeah, and if you have something as iconic as queen, okay, something that big a deal. You do this right after Freddie Mercury dies, you're screwing yourself. But you do it this far later. They're almost like a retirement band. Like, it's not even, I'm not saying they're not still queen. They're still queen.

They're still amazing. But it's not the same as in their prime. and I think you can get away with it later with some bands and then some bands you can do it quicker like I don't know how quick Brian Johnson joined ACDC but it seemed like it was pretty quick you know but anyway there you go

no it was yes no I said Ian Curtis and you're on a delay Claire Molly Fatton beat you to Ian Curtis by about a page and a half of chat messages don't listen to Claire today she's got she's earlier she

she's all mad about the AI voice I don't choose those. The listener does. Yeah. We don't pick them. So somebody else gets to pick those. It'd be great if the AI on that, what's it called? Voicecast.

Voicecast. Well, I think they're just using, I think they're using OpenAI or something as a plugin. It's like an API thing. Right. But it would be great if they let you record your voice a little bit of it and then use the AI version of your voice to read your message. Oh, that would be cool. Yeah.

Yeah, I guess. But then at some point, it's just like. like just call in and leave your message just do it yeah just use your regular voice yeah oh yeah bio cow in excess that whole rock star reality show um who what they did a second season and who was that to fill in so see that annoyed man i didn't like it at all because it's like i didn't like that either doing it as a reality show because you don't let you don't let other people decide who's going to be the new front person the new vocalist for your band i think yeah yeah and didn't they well they what was journey steel wasn't that kind of like that

they did the kind of a no it was a it was a it was a journey tribute band that they just said you sound great would you like to be our new okay I thought there was a show but I think I've conflated those two bands in there you might be conflating rock yeah rock star with with that yeah the second season was Metallica replacing Jason Neustad I completely forgot about that really oh that's it yes okay I course says the second season was for a super group called supernova yes I remember that um by the way um storm large uh one of the first people to reach out to coverville and send me a bunch of covers and and you know we emailed back and forth quite a few times she was a contestant uh she lasted a long time on that in excess rock star season she was i feel like she would have been a great uh a great part of the band yeah she would have been all right well there's our music segment for the week everybody yeah there we go hope you enjoyed it it'll probably make up for coverville which i'll talk about Later, there won't be a coverville today.

Oh, all right. Well, then, hey, you guys just got a bunch of sort of coverville business early. Yeah. No music, but, you know, you'll get a cover at the end of the show today. That'll be good. You'll get a cover of the show and you'll get an explanation as to why there won't be a coverville. And Monica, I don't know about post-Nirvana. There was a band called Post-Nirvana.

Yeah, post-it was... Oh, that was Post-Malone and Nirvana. It wasn't even a band. I mean, all they did was a stage, like a one-off. It was for the... It was some kind of deal. The rock and roll. Hall of Fame, wasn't it?

Oh, no, it was for the 50th anniversary. That's right, okay. Right, right, right. Claire needs a cold shower. I'm just going to put that out there. She's just everything's controversial for her today. Every freaking thing. Oh, boy. Okay. It is a, it is a

not going to bite day. I ain't bite. I'm not going to bite. In fact, I'm just going to park this little window right back there. All right. quick note we are not here Monday because it's Memorial Day and we as a general tradition here on TMS do not do a show on that day so there'll be some other things that day of course daily music headlines Carter and I will likely do a Monday show there's a few other things that

will happen but TMS is off that morning which will help me because I got to take Kim to the airport at like six and the gosh thing freaking early in the morning. This is a Chicago trip right? Yeah and she's for whatever reason shows this like god awful time in the morning to go and I got take her very early so you'll go play with some raccoons I know where she's going yeah she's going to rec she can do a little raccoon watching she's going to raccoon city

with the umbrella yep I want to say umbrella academy what's the the umbrella corporation oh umbrella corp yep you're right yeah that's it yeah she's going to work with uh Wesker he's evil do not trust Wesker Jill

Wesker anyway Barry that is is not so that's monday memorial day not happening tuesday we're back everything's normal all right everybody calm yourselves down all right uh let's get a little news in uh before we get windy in here today and we'll do that by doing this today's news is brought to you by brought to you by coverville uh there won't be one that's the thing um hammond and i are going to record a special k-pop episode of soundography with tom um tom has given each of us a list based on the things we like um Hammond

liking Prague, me liking just your generic kind of Taylor Swifty, spice gruelsey kind of pop, giving each of us a list of bands and albums to listen to, and we're going to report back to Tom with our findings. So that is going to be recorded as a special episode of soundography. If you are a patron, you're going to get that episode right away when we're done with it, warts and all. If you're not, you probably will have about a three-week wait or two-week wait to get the show on the regular feeds.

But I'm excited about this. I'm surprised at how much K-pop I am loving. And that's going to make the Ducey's really happy, too, because I know they're big fans as well. It was good stuff in there, for sure. Yeah, La Cerepham and Black Pink and all the different solombs, Rose and. You're basically listing the playlist that was on the overhead speakers at the restaurant last night.

All of that stuff. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, love it. great. What a great playlist. ETS. Yeah. Yeah. I've leaned more towards the female artist only because

the list I gave Tom was stuff that's like Taylor Swift, Pink and the Spice Girls. Boy Next Door, Jay Hope, Jenny, J-Soo, Junkook, Kat's Eye.

Junkook. Red Velvet. Junkook. I love it. I love it on rice. It's very good on rice. Junkook. Well, all right. It's good stuff. So watch for that. You may not be getting a Coverville, but you're getting something.

You're getting something. And then there will be a guess the connection tomorrow. So be around for that. That'll be after TMS Friday tomorrow morning. Oh, yeah. We definitely have that tomorrow. So watch for that too. All right.

Got a couple things here. An alligator, chilling in a pipe. There's a story we're going to tell you about now. This is pretty cool. City employee. So I try and take a selfie with him? you know that's funny because there have been what like three alligator stories the last couple of weeks the best week yeah nuts this one is happening in avido avedo oviado florida ovido yeah ovido i'd say because of

the spanish roots oviedo is probably what i would say but we'll get corrections starting now and go chat i can't see you anyway uh let's see conducting a routine inspection of underground Pipes were surprised to discover a small alligator relaxing inside. Just chilling. Just chilling in there. Cool. Just chilling. Yeah.

Residents of one Florida town may be experiencing a sense of deja vu after a routine inspection in these underground pipes. Yielded a familiar and scary discovery. City maintenance crews in Olavida. Ovidia. Oh. Whatever it is. Spotted an alligator just chilling Wednesday, seemingly unfazed by its subterranean surroundings. I hope everyone noticed that's now three paragraphs that essentially say the same thing.

The same thing. The same thing. By the way, like, is this from somebody fleshing an alligator down the toilet? Oh, shit. Drew Barrymore warned us about alligators in the sewers. And this is it. This is it. It's finally happening.

Do you ever see Alligator, the TV movie Alligator when you were a kid? No. It was on regular TV, I think. Really? And it was about it. Not released as a theatrical release? No, it was like straight to just like a made for ABC or something thing. And it was a kid flushed a.

alligator or a parent i think was pissed flushed their kids alligator down the toilet and then somehow in the sewer the alligator got a hold i don't know what and got huge and like came out of the streets and like eight it became like a oh wow giant monster yeah it's a 1980 american independent horror film directed by louis teague uh who also did cat's eye coo joel of the nile dukes of hazard reunion uh wow wow um That's great. Also came out with a tabletop game distributed by the ideal toy company. No, why aren't we watching this for FilmSec?

Feels like we need to. We probably should. I don't remember if it was like multi-part because I swear it was TV made. But maybe they couldn't get distribution and it was just a regular movie. I don't know. It stars Robert Forster, our friend from, do you say that? No, no, I didn't say it. I love him, though.

He's great. Kane Hodder. Oh, I don't know who that is. Who's Kane Hodder? He's your Jason, Kane Hodder. Oh, big guy. He's the big guy, the stuntman who's behind the hockey mask. I don't remember that.

That's wild. Henry Silva, I think we know from stuff. I think we know the romantic lady lead. Robert Reiker. I'm sorry, Robin Reiker. What do we know her from? She, um... Let's see.

She made her big screen debut in the 1980 horror film Alligator And later went out to start the Showtime comedy series Brothers What am I thinking of? Why do I know her? Hold on Oh, she's so familiar to me Is it Buffy maybe? Oh, Sue Lyon as an NBC newswoman

Played Lolita in the Stanley Kubrick Lolita film Oh, geez. Yes Don't stand so close to me. She's busy and lots of stuff. I can't remember. There was something I remember from.

But anyway, that movie is bad. Let's throw this on the film sack to watch list. Yeah, it's bad and great. Big recommendation from me to watch that. Anyway, let's see here. You loved him the first time around, and now he's back the city set on social media. Really? Okay.

I don't know why. They said that. But anyway, the encounter echoes a similar incident in 2023, leaving many to wonder if the city has a recurring reptilian resident thing going on. The city shared a video of the surprise welcome provided by their contractor, Shannon Doa Construction. Shannon Doha, why is that a word that rings a bell? Is that the thing my sisters are into?

It's about horses or something. Do you remember that? Yeah, it's like a ranch name, isn't it, Shannon Doa? Or National Park. Yeah, but wasn't there a movie for girls, horse-loving, girls i may have this completely completely off but i swear there was something my sister's love probably was something black black beauty adjacent to a tv show yeah or something uh well in 1965 that's too old that's too old yeah uh anyway i'm thinking of the song the there's a band

there's a country band called shenandoah maybe that's it or maybe i'm thinking of the song by what's his name Rocky Mountain hi oh did John Denver have a son called Shenandoah

Shenandoah something I can't remember I don't freaking remember anyway they're not sure

how it got down there they don't know what the deal was and watch out when you go down in your sewer if you're

scared I guess alligators in the sewers that's right a Michigan man now also in the news

thought lottery win was a prank he won the lottery and thought he was getting pranked. Sure. I would think that initially, like somebody's playing a joke on me, yeah. Says a man from Detroit.

Where is it? Here we go. Won a lucky for life lottery prize. That's the name of the lottery there. Of 25 grand a year for life. It's pretty good. Nice little supplementary. I like that. I mean, that's good if you're young. Oh, hell yeah.

If you're 90, that's like, you know, great. What do I? Can I bequeath this to somebody? Yeah, I wonder if you can pass those down until, I'm assuming when you're dead, it's done. They don't send you anymore. That's what I would think. It is for life, for your life. But, I mean, if you, if once you realize you win, you give it to your youngest family member and say, this is mine until I die.

Yeah, but then it's all yours. Yep. That's really, actually really smart. And then they kill you. Yeah. And then you get killed by your grandson. It becomes a few of the week on lifetime. And Van standing over me with a knife in the middle of the night.

Oh, speaking of which, dude, do I even want to talk about this on the show? Maybe I don't. There's a, Vann's got a bully at his school. Oh, you mentioned this on, um, somewhere, right? Skim. Skim. Yeah, you put this on skim. He went, all say about his, the kid, this kid went way too far yesterday.

Oh, no, really? And now, I mean, it's like, you're wanting to step in, like you're wanting to. And I don't need to, Dylan and Tay are absolutely. stepping in, so I don't need to. But I want to go down there and scare the living shit out of this train. We had exactly the same thing happened with a kid with Tristan. And it was everything that I could do not to get involved and just want to scare this kid. Just want to freak him out.

No. Just want to, yeah. Yeah, I just want a little of his own medicine back in his face. Exactly. Yes. The problem is this is a seven-year-old kid who's acting like an 18-year-old delinquent. It's that bad. Really?

Like, I'm, I don't know. I'm worried about his home life. I'm more, like, this is, I'm legit worried about it. The school's not stepping in any further than, they are, but I don't know. I feel like they're not doing enough. And Dylan's like, Dylan's on fire pissed off right now. So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen, but, oh, I'm mad for him.

Yeah, the details are rough. Yeah. Anyway, we'll see how that goes. This guy from Detroit, though, he thought he was being pranked. and uh macaille garland told michigan lottery officials he bought the ticket on april 18th lucky for life online drawing quote i've been playing lucky for life for a few years and i always buy my tickets online he says when i saw the email from the lottery about claiming the prize i logged into my account and thought i was being pranked when i saw the account balance it wasn't until i called the lottery and

confirmed the prize that i then believed them that i actually won and it's still like i'm living a dream that's what he says so he said wait a minute so when I saw an email from the lottery belt, claiming a prize, I logged into my account and thought I was being pranked when I saw my account balance. So they don't even like send you, like they send you things that, hey, you won, but then they just start depositing money into your account immediately. That seems wild. So when you buy the ticket, you're giving them your bank information so they can do this?

Must be. Or it's a thing you have to transfer at that stage or something. He didn't get into the details. Oh, that could be. Maybe that's it. He's got a lottery account. Yeah. It's like you want to ECH this and now you have to give us your bank stuff, I guess. Yeah, man. All right. Well, lucky you.

Yeah. He says some of his winnings will go toward a trip and the rest will go into savings. Well, you're only getting it every 12 months. Every year. Yeah. 25,000 year, though, would be, you know, obviously it's not a living wage, but it's 25,000. You get taxed a third on that, right? So you really think about it as 16,000. but it's 16,000 you don't have to work for. That's another, that's an additional 1,200 a month. Oh, you could definitely use that. We were just talking yesterday.

We were like, man, one of those rivians would be nice. And then I look at the monthly on, it's about 1,200 a month. And I'm like, yeah, that sucks. We're not doing that. It would be nice to look at when they drive by. Yeah, but then if you had this going, you could justify it, you know? You could say, well, that extra $1,200 is going to go to my new car. there you go a rare mint allergy

I know some people that seem like they might have a mint allergy if you know what I'm saying Are you allergic to certs Are you allergic to toothpaste? Is that what's going on? Anyway, a rare mint allergy leaves a woman wishing she was allergic to peanuts Which I guess that means she thinks that's way worse, I guess? I guess so

This is a Virginia archaeologist. It was in video form, so was very little to the the story, but her name is Kaylee Diggyiovanni. DiGiovanni. Suffers from a rare mint allergy that causes severe reactions impacting her day life. She humorously expressed that she'd prefer a peanut

allergy in the video. So this got me to thinking. I mean, you can be, I think you can gain an allergy or allergic reaction from mild to severe to almost anything, right? So what makes a mint one so so rare? Obviously most

commercial toothpaste contains mint, so you've got to worry about that. But there are, you know, no mojitos, because that's Oh my gosh, yeah, you're out of mojitos. I don't know, certain gums are probably fake mint. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know, that's an interesting thing. Like, which ones use

real mint or a fake artificial mint flavor? We grow mint in our backyard and the dogs hate it. They don't want to go near it. It's been a good, it's a good deterrent. Yeah, it's a nice deterrent. It also seems to care, no, that's not the stuff. There's some other plant she grows that keeps the gnats away.

I forgot what that's called. Citronella. That's what it is. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, sure. Works great. Sure. That stuff's great.

Really good for mosquitoes, too. Yep. Against mosquitoes. Yeah, I mean, there might be other things. I know, you know, your restaurants will have dishes. Occasionally they'll have mint as a flavoring or even as a garnish or something. The edge of the plate or something, sure. Yeah.

Lamb chops and mint jello, not happening. Yeah. Yeah. I would be a bummer. I just don't think about all. all the things that have mint in it, you know? Like any of these things, though. Any of the stuff comes up and you're like, oh, yeah, I would, an allergy to, I don't know,

tomatoes would kill 90% of my food choices or whatever. That seems like that would just really suck. I don't have any known allergies. I don't know of any. I've never been diagnosed with any, and nothing makes me react weird. Same. I've been very fortunate to go through life with no real substantial allergies. I think there's something going on.

We've talked about this before, and people have questioned the validity of my tequila aversion. Listen, I'll drink everything else until the cows come home, but I think you'd know if it was keeping you up. Brian's, Brian can be a good source of his own information about

tequila and his reaction to it. I would think so. Oh, one of my clients, by the way, um, is a distillery, a gin distillery, uh, method and mews. And, um, been working with them on their website, they've got a temporary site up now and we're working on a staging site that we're going to move over eventually, but they had a soft opening

yesterday. And they're opening in Old Town, Arvada. Like, it could not be much closer to me if we tried. I mean, it's far enough that it's still a 10, 15 minute drive, but we went there last night and I had a gin drink with Amaro and pineapple and mint, and my God, it was so good. is it like what's the well done brian you ordered the most complicated I'm trying to think if I had I've ever ever have I even tasted gin I don't think any of the drinks that I've that I've seen you drink which are very few

yeah I don't think I've never seen you have gin I've seen you have vodka a couple times tasted vodka tasted rum tasted uh tequila because of the urbina was the first tequila exposure I've ever had oh really yeah and then wine yeah of course i think that's it i don't think you've had gin never had gin never had a beer of any kind jenn you know right away if you're going to like it or hate it because of the um the juniper berries like it'll taste like a it'll taste like an evergreen tree smells if that's oh weird really

yeah yeah i don't think i would like that you might not like that yeah i didn't i mean i'll be honest i haven't really liked any of them yeah sure they just haven't been my jam but i also barely You know, I've just kind of tried stuff. It's not been that, I haven't really gained the taste. You're supposed to gain a taste for these things? I haven't spent enough time with any of it. Yeah, and, you know, gin is one of those, gin is a more divisive, um, divisive alcohol.

Maybe tequila's up there as well as being very divisive, but people either love or hate gin. Or maybe, maybe not hate, but don't like gin. You know, it's either they're, they're, oh yeah, my drinks, my go-toes or anything with gin in it. But a lot of people are not fans at all of it because of the... Definitely hear less good about gin than I hear good about gin from people. Yeah, Monica says the better the gin, the less it tastes like a Christmas tree.

Yes and no, there are some very good gins that are very juniper forward. Our friends, Freemonster, from Vancouver gave me some gin at TMS, Vegas, that was very gin forward, and this is a smooth, like, drink it without even adding tonic to it. Well, I just submitted a title called Very Juniper Forward. Very Juniper Forward. Because I love this. I love how that sounds. All right, we're going to take a break.

When we come back from said break, we'll be here with Wendy. We're going to talk about empathy. Sure could use more of that in the world today. So we're going to talk about ways of carving more of that out for each other and for those around us. That's coming up here in a minute. Brian, let's play a song before we do any of that. Yeah, let's go to Austin, Texas for a band called Gentleman Rokes. And for a second, I thought, wait a minute, there's a band that has the same name as the Brian Brushwood thing from Austin, Texas.

How is this related? But it's not. It's what he's something else rogue. Modern Rogue is correct, yeah. They've got a brand new single. I guess there's still a lot of rogues in Austin. Who do? That's the rogue capital of the U.S.

They're releasing a brand new single. they actually just released a brand new single on May 16th. We're going to play it for you right now. It's called Half Empty Half Fool. Make sure to see these guys who are doing a Midwest tour starting this month. Here's Gentlemen Rogues, Half Empty, Half Fool. I know that you are above my station, but you make me feel like I'm reeling on cloud nine. I get enough of public ideation because it always seems like every time gravity releases me.

entry in spite of my neurotic inclinations i'm once beaten twice taken by your chart well i must have been stretching the truth because i swear you felt for me too if i love you are business instead of yours I can't carry on borrowing trouble I'm too deep and dead to be devil make care I think of you and get wide-knockled It feels like I'm acting on a dare When gravity releases me I burn up our re-entry

Despite my amorotic inclinations I want to see how I figure in your eyes You're a close book, give me a clue I'm affected to have a fool for you If I love you at business, this is it all yours Thank you. I must have been stretching the truth Because that's what you found for me to invite

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can write it down. Sure. That's the band Gentleman Rokes and the brand new single, half empty, half fool. That's the A side of the single, by the way. The B side is a kick-ass cover of T-Rex's Children of the Revolution. Oh, my goodness. You know, when you get the whole thing, you get a bonus cover, a really good cover on top of that. That sounds fantastic. All right. Here comes Wendy. Coming in. Coming in hot.

Let's see what we got going here with this. Psychosomats That boy needs therapy. It's too early for a fish sandwich. It sure is. It's my sister, Wendy, who yelled that out in Vegas and changed our lives forever when you do it. For sure.

That was great. It is too early. Hey, have I told you this? What? Your niece, Allison, is a huge fan of the fish sandwiches. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Fish burger is what we call it here.

Because both her grandfathers on both sides of the fan. Emily, that was their big thing. That's true. Dad loved a filet a fish, yeah. And he called it a fish burger growing up. Yeah. He'd go up to, here's what our dad would order a drive-ups. He would either say,

give me, he'd say, give me your deluxe burger, which it didn't matter where we went. If it didn't, it wasn't called that, he still said that. Or he would say, give me a fish burger. Those are his two things. Yeah. The old fish burger.

That's great. That's great. It sounds like somebody's name. Larry Fishburger. Yeah, it sounds like. like a name. Does she have a pick as a favorite that we could recommend to people? Yeah, Colvers. They're

Oh, yes. What is it? Is it cod? I think it's a cod filet. Yes. Bread. Colvers fish. Colvers is fantastic. Colvers always leaves me feeling a little greasy, but that's the burgers and fries. Maybe I should go for the fish, you know,

next time I'm. Yeah, their fish is good. Yeah. The best part is their ice cream. Yeah. It really is. It's custard. Cous and cows. Ooh, I do like custard, and that new Friday's just opened. Anyway, well, Wendy is here from No Better You.com, as well as just, you know, being my sister, and we grew up together, and I chased her around with a hot iron or a cold soldering iron, all that fun stuff. This is all true.

She comes here on ye old Thursdays, and we talk about ways of improving our lives. She's an actual therapist doing real therapy all the time, and slumming it for you guys on Thursdays. we thought we'd talk a little more about empathy and it's a little bit of backstory to this I made this attempt which I do not claim is anywhere near the full brunt of what women go through on the monthly

but we tried to we tried to simulate it Carter attached to me in the right places a tens unit electrical tens unit that it's basically kind of lower abdomen kind of zone and then cranked it up to i think we went to 15 on this thing uh which is roughly half of its kick it this thing's

pretty granular most of these things are like zero to 10 this one went from zero to 30 so 15 we're at half or five on a normal one and um and and it was you know the the pattern we programmed into it was giving me the sensation or something close to a simulation of the sensation of crampy monthly menstrual cycle stuff and i'd never I've always felt a lot of sympathy for the women in my life who have to deal with that, especially those who have some, you know, other issues with it where they're more severe. Kim's sister just like doubled over every month with her intramitriosis. Am I saying that right?

Endometriosis. Endo. Not intro. That's how it starts, though. It gets worse. Sounds like a medical class. I'm going to my intro to endo. but anyway she uh it was really hard for her so i've always i've always felt empathy slash sympathy

for that more sympathy than empathy because i didn't really know what it felt like um the closest thing i ever had was uh my years ago when i got uh the occasional flare-up of um thyberticulitis in this one area was really awful and at the time carter and others would say oh yeah you're that's basically lady pain is what you're having imagine doing that every month that's usually what i would get when i would have those so so we tried that empathy back yeah yeah so i tried the i tried the 10s unit and it really is uncomfortable i don't know how people well a like just functioning with that kind of pain for three four days whatever it is for each individual person seems like a nightmare

on its own but then also working a job and i have to meet with the boss and i'm doing all of these things that you just do every day that men just don't freaking think about like we don't we don't have an analog to this and it was a good experience for me even though I know it's just barely brushing the surface right I know I understand that it's not the real thing any more than those guys that wear like the big belly suits to create a pregnancy weight and they spend you know two weeks doing that similar reasons you know trying to understand what it's like I don't think we can fully understand it. But it got us on this thinking about empathy. Somebody forwarded a clip to Wendy of the show with me and Carter. And so that's why all this came up. So anyway,

let's talk more about empathy. It feels like the world could use a lot of that right now. Yeah. Like a lot. And I don't know if it's just our, you know, I don't know what it is. But I feel like we've always, we've always needed it, you know. Yeah, it feels like it's the, lately the u.s especially has just been turning way more into an every person for themselves kind of kind of environment and uh yeah we need to get out of that trend yeah there's that whole

there's that thing i was talking about last week where fred rogers once famously said look for the helpers and it occurred to me recently that he's not talking to us he's talking to kids when he says that and he's talking about us we're supposed to be the ones we're supposed to be the helpers yeah you know so anyway how do we uh first of all maybe some of this should be about how do we get out from under the weight of it because right now it just feels like and then learn how to be empathetic again to other people yeah well let's first talk about period pain let's do it um very exciting i loved watching it it was amazing my favorite thing

about it though actually was that you responded really appropriately to the pain and you'd say it makes you want to double over and it does and it makes you almost nauseous and want to vomit that also does and that's like I think the on the ones I'm familiar with the 10 is like the worst sort of period pain you could probably expect on just a monthly basis right now times that by one million and that's a labor contraction So let's just be clear. And that's the same kind of pain for our labor contraction. And the tens unit doesn't go up that high. No, no. There was no way to do that one. We would be killing men in this attempt. And I also liked, so I liked how you sort of could articulate and like it was just funny to see your face.

How, and it's rhythmic. It is very rhythmic. It is like labor. It's little labor. Yeah. Um, and, you know, you, you did a good job, uh, feeling all of it. I think the other thing, like you mentioned Janus in a meeting. Yeah. Yeah. And how, how in the world do you focus and live your life when this is happening? And there, you know, there is definitely a spectrum of people's experiences, uh, with the uteruses, you know, all away from, you know, not too bad to really bad needing, you know, medical intervention, really in some cases. My cute daughter would pass out.

Hers was always like standing there, blanche white, fall down. Oh, man. And that's, you know, that's not easy to live your life when you've got symptoms, you know, and it varies for everybody. And then all sorts of other things, right? Okay. So I loved how just how actually empathetic it was. And I think this was so cool about whoever created this thing is that it's pretty accurate. And that they've seen it put on women.

And women are like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's exactly how it feels. And they're at, like, at 12, and they're very masculine boyfriends curled up in a ball on the floor next to them at a four. Yeah. And also, this thing, though, there's also a mental aspect to it that I could not shake, which was, I know going into this, this is going to be 15 minutes. That was how long the routine was. It's going to be 15 minutes. I know that going in. I know there's an end to it.

And I know when that's done, I will have learned a little something, but I get to go on. about my pain-free uterine, uterous-free day. Exactly. I get to just go back to the normal. And there's no way to take that out of your head. There's no way to not know that this is a permanent or monthly or regular thing I'm going to have to fight or deal with. And that's a huge part of this, right? Just kind of dreading it. 30, 40 years. Yeah. It just doesn't seem fair at all. My gosh, it doesn't seem fair. Yeah, it isn't fair. But I like what the, I don't know who kind of started doing this, but the, you know, the various videos I've seen of it. I I like this idea that it's like, let me go to a place where there's heterosexual couples interacting in a very masculine environment.

So you've got rodeos. And there was a couple with basketball players that were so funny. And so these very like places where you would not be expected to try out some period pain. And then they'd get people to volunteer to do it. And having truly watched some of these dudes. minds just blown like oh I have I had no idea right so what we're talking about with this and it's it's a great example of it is this step in someone else's shoes kind of empathy so we're going to define a couple different words here so empathy sympathy sometimes people are

like well what's the difference sympathy is where you feel bad for someone so you can see someone curled up on the floor having period pain and be like oh that's got to be that's sad you know so there's sort of like a feel for you a little bit sure and empathy is more of the response of like I can feel the feeling imagine feeling it like there's a little more grounded in experiential even though like okay until this moment you didn't actually know what those pains felt like this was yeah like real real empathy feels like the the reason for the word to exist because otherwise sympathy would cover it all you needed something more intimately correct like right you really know what this feeling is I'm so sorry for your loss right empathy is I have also lost and I can

conjure that feeling and apply it to you and you know sort of be there with you right now I'm going to add a third word I feel like we've done an episode on this before so forgive me but it's probably been some years of compassion and compassion is compassion is the ideal um way to experience empathy and and I'll define this a little bit So think about a person you really love. Like you just think they are the best. You want nothing but good for them. And when they are hurt or stressed or they're having a hard time,

it's that feeling that happens in your body towards them. Like you just don't want them to suffer. That's compassion. And I'm often working with people to try to get them to have compassion towards themselves. So that same feeling you would feel for this loved one or this person you really, really care about. What if we turn that towards ourselves? Because often people have kind of the opposite going on, which is these really harsh inner critics and, you know, critical of themselves.

You know, even from the minute they wake up, there's some interesting studies on just how people talk and think and talk to themselves, you know, within the first hour of the morning. And there's something like 50% of women in this one particular research, have already said a half a dozen negative things to themselves by like 9.30 a.m. Right? And really what we should be saying is you live through period pain.

You're a superhero. Exactly. So that compassion you would have for someone else, turning it towards yourself can be really, really powerful. So just recently, I've had the chance to be in two different situations where I'm being interviewed. One was by a bunch of kids at like a career fair. And I had probably 300 kids come through.

and they'd come to each little station and ask you questions about your job. And then we had a policeman there with a dog. I mean, I can't believe anyone came to my station after there was a dog in the room. The competition was fierce. It was fierce. And they put body armor on kids. I was like, this is not fair, dude. Anyway, and then, you know, boring jobs.

And then, you know, there was a teacher and a marketer and some other things. So these kids could have a chance to, like, ask questions. And then another was just working with a couple of individuals who are looking at at becoming therapists and wondering what it's all about. And so I thought it was so fascinating because these kids could ask any question that they wanted. And, you know, I like to joke with them. Like in the 90s, if we had done this same kind of career fair, there would not have been

a therapist table. That would not have been cool. And no one would have gotten sat at the tables. You know what I mean? So I was telling them, like, in high school, and I gave them this, like, little quiz that showed like their aptitude and the questions were funny they were like um if your friend wants to tell you about something that happened to them that's really sad or hard you and then it's like he's like listen look them in the eye sit there and you know you know kind of empathy questions and

then once just like plug your ears and say la la la you know so where are you on the scale and so i'm you know they're doing this little aptitude test and then they can ask me anything and they want And so it was just funny because I was telling them, like, do any of you know what you want to be? And they're like, wow, I'm interested in a lot of things. But yeah, I'm interested in knowing about a therapist. And I was like, if you had told me in the 90s that I was going to be a therapist, I would have died laughing. Like, first of all, what? You know, it just is not the same now.

And these kids were so flipping bright. And it was so fun. Anyway, so here are the questions that I had asked to me based on a couple of adults talking to me, but then also it was hundreds of kids. It was a lot of kids. And they asked some really funny things And then they asked some serious things about empathy So every group So the big group of five or ten kids come in rounds

And every group asked How do you not take it home? And I thought, wow, that is so insightful And that is something I didn't even think about And stories of child abuse And thinking, I got to figure out how not to take this home Like, it just didn't dawn on me. And I think it's because younger people have way more their empathy is being sort of triggered in constant ways that maybe wouldn't otherwise.

So that's why I sometimes when we're around and people, and you're just like, dang, they are so much beyond their years in some ways. I think it's because of that. And so they asked about that. So I kind of gave them the spiel between sympathy, empathy, and compassion. And we have a term in therapy, which is, I think, the wrong word, but it's compassion fatigue. And it's where you are hearing so many hard things and you burn out, right? Yeah. But really, it's empathy fatigue.

It should be empathy, because empathy, if you're feeling what someone's feeling over and over and over, that is exhausting. And empathy would, no one would want to talk to you if they just felt like it would feel patronizing, right? So it's typically empathy that you're running through. But if you can actually conjure compassion, there is an endless supply of that. And this may sound weird to people. And you may say, well, no, I would run out. But I also ask these kids, like, if you hate math, don't get a job that you're doing math all day. And if you kind of hate people, probably shouldn't choose therapy, right?

Because you would run out of steam. I am very extrovert and, like, really love people. And some days I'm like, I guess I don't want. want to talk to anyone else today, you know, after seven hours straight. So, so I think there is this, this thing we can develop. So when you are saying, let's apply this to the bigger picture of like, we need more compassion. Or I want to use that word. I want to use that word because it is, it comes from this, like, again, I want you to feel that feeling. You would feel for someone you cared about. And you just don't want them to suffer that feeling. And, you just don't want

them to suffer that feeling and take that to any other parts of your life. You would have an endless supply of that. So let's talk about how we could actually do it. So let's go with both of your individual little worlds that surround you, the five mile radiuses that surround you. Okay. Where in that five mile radius, and this goes for everyone listening, could you, okay name anything you have a response to it could be good positive negative it doesn't matter maybe it's sympathy maybe it's sympathy maybe it's some compassion but just what are you noticing in your little five mile world that um you like have a feeling about let's just pick one and then we'll go from there yeah and for your internationals that would be 8.05 kilometers

I know I was just seriously that's why I was stalling and like what is that? How many meters? All right. Boy, something that we have either compassion, empathy, or... Yeah, maybe you're mad about? We can even start there. I mean, my, you know,

my big thing is irritation with inconsiderate people, especially on the road who, you know what? No, I'll go a little bit more personal. I've been, of course, hitting the bike a lot lately. and I find that if there are people walking on the path or cyclists on the path, even around a blind curve, around a blind corner or a place where, you know, there's trees you can't really see, they will still ride in the absolute dead center of the path. Instead of doing the right thing, which is how we drive, which is to stay on the right side of the road,

in case you can't see another cyclist or a runner or somebody walking. Like my default, always on the path, even though the path is nice and wide, I always stay over in the right third of it. Not even the right half. I stay in the right third. And my irritation with people who are inconsiderate about that sort of thing, really, you know, it gets to me. And I shouldn't let it get to me, but it does get to it. So why do you do it? Why are you so considerate?

Because I'm just that great, Wendy. I mean, I know. But why? Um, because, uh, because I don't want to be, a, I don't want to rent into somebody, you know, on a blind curve or, or there's the, there's the safety issue. But then there's also just the, I don't even want somebody to have to go on your left. If they're riding faster than me and they come up from behind me, I mean, I come up from behind me. I mean, I want them to still say it because if there's a lizard on the ground and I steer into the left side, I don't want to crash into somebody coming up silently behind me. But, um, but, but I don't want people to have to have to, like worry if they're coming around coming the opposite direction that I'm going to slam into them or that they're going to have to tell me to get out of the way or things like that. I want to be, you know, it works like everybody doing the thing that's expected of them, even when nobody's watching, integrity, is there to keep conflict at a minimum, to keep anger

and frustration at a minimum. There's still going to be all that stuff, but at least we can prevent a lot of it if we just do the things that we're supposed to do in society. Right. And you're aware of that. And so you perform the right way because of the benefits that you see. Right. Right.

For sure. Okay. And then someone coming along who's just writing in the middle, what do you, what's your thoughts about who they are? They are thinking of themselves only and not of other people on the path. Whether they're coming up behind them or coming towards them. and I imagine that they're even put out if somebody were to come up behind them and say, hey, coming up on your left, and then they have to make this effort to now go on to the right

side of the path where they don't belong. Right. Okay. So can you conjure any sympathy for them? Let's start with sympathy first. I'm sad for them that they're. They're so ignorant and selfish. That's not going to serve them well in life.

I mean, there's a little, you know, I joke about that, but there's a little bit of truth to that that that they're going to spend, if this is how they act in real life, basically doing what they want when they think no one's watching, when they think no one's around, it's like, well, I don't have to follow the rules because I'm the only one here. It's going to cause them problems and other aspects of their life when they think nobody's watching and they're being, uh, being selfish or inconsiderate. Yes. So you moved into empathy just then.

I guess so. Yes. Yeah. You went away from like, I'm sad. They're stupid too. But if they were to write into a ditch, they would move quickly to apathy. To maybe. Which is yet another pathy.

We haven't brought up. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Irritation.

Sure. And it's like also, yeah, you know, some, one of these times is going to bite you in the butt this inconsiderate and a selfishness, uh, that you're experiencing. Yeah. And, and then the way to move this into compassion, let's see if we can try. How would you move from, oh, geez, empathy to compassion? God, what would it take for me to feel compassion for these people? Um, I don't know. And here's the thing. We don't know anything about them. Can I not? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I know nothing else about them. I am basing my entire. higher summation of who they are as a person on this fleeting two-second experience with

them that I feel like defines completely who they are as a person, whether it's right or wrong. Yeah. Because what if they just swallow to be? Right. They could be avoiding a lizard. They could easily be avoiding a lizard on the path and looking, you know, you never know. You never know. So it's like stepping in their shoes can be the empathy part. Like, okay, sometimes You're right in the middle and you make mistakes or, you know. Yes. Yeah.

And compassion. Go ahead. It's become, it's, it's, it's funny that I'm so much like this on the bike because I feel like when I was lifting all the time or Ubering all the time, I was getting less and less irritated by the stupid decisions and moves of the cars around me, the drivers around me. Because I figure, all right, you know what? I speed. I go over the speed limit, you know, not on a very occasional basis. a little bit more than that. So I'm also not following the rules.

So why, when they change lanes without signaling or cut me off, why do I get mad at the crap that they do when I'm guilty of doing something else that, that, you know, is not following the rules? So, but on the bike, for whatever reason, I'm a lot more, a lot more. And there's a cultural element to cars. There's a cultural element to cycling, how people behave. at a farmer's market who stands in line for bathrooms at concerts. There's some unwritten sort of clues. I always think of Costanza, you know, we're living in a society here, and I try

not to, to, I like look at that as, yeah, I don't want to be that guy. So it always, I always go right to the precipice of being Costanza and just a little bit back from the edge, like, okay, all right, maybe that's a little bit much. Okay. See, what I loved about that, your, your thought process there is it reveals a lot about what we actually value. Our negative emotions are usually just telling us something, right? So if I'm really irritated by someone not following the rules in this context, but I kind of push some rules over here. Yeah, and that easily could be I'm mad at myself for not following the rules when I do.

Yeah, when I don't. Our hypocrisy shows up like the anger. Oh, for sure, for sure. And it's always, you know, it's always directed at the person who seems to be doing exactly the same thing. Right, right. But the compassion is like the really, really mature version, which is I don't, I don't know their backstory. I don't know their situation. But if this is just the regular way they move through life, I actually feel bad for the life, the consequences of that life. Yeah, it's that and I feel bad for the people around them, the people that they interact with daily or, you know, hourly. Yeah. Okay. All right. So that's a good. example of like our you know thank you for bringing the the bike example because it's a little like

huh i you can move between these things they are different things and what does it look like to actually provide something in your own community like that is your good um energy or your your willingness to sort of be a member of society when not everyone is pulling it off very well like That is tough. That is tough stuff. Pulling their weight. Right. But what makes us a community, and that could be any from an online community to your

literal local one or all the people who happen to be in this store at the same time, an event occurs, right? You're in these various spaces and places and how you act and what you do. I mean, think about many movies. They are showing us. That's the interesting part is the development of the dynamic of a community that got developed by happenstance or you know that's created and tell the story lost is a dumb example but you know what I'm saying where all those things start to happen so when we look you know we go in

circles I like that Mr. Rogers reference Scott because you know his whole work was ultimately to create like skills and safety and you know some amazing care for kids and it mattered so super excited that all the funding is done for PBS okay so you know like that built in to somebody is done by how you're raised you know your different experiences what's valued what's not etc but so then think about and the reason I wanted to ask about your five miles now we can we can make a bigger or Scott you can give us an example but how do you because a community or or compassion or empathy or any of those things it I sound like your mom's. It starts with you. But it does. It starts with you. And and this is why I really

like when I can help people understand that whatever negative emotion pops up to get really curious about that, because that is a gold mine of information. Like what you keep, what keeps triggering you is still stuff you haven't healed from. Like that's what that is. And so it maybe isn't the biggest wound in the world, but there are definitely clues when we feel resentment or regret or anger towards something. And it could be just, I want to live in a world where this feels safe, this thing that I love and all these people enjoy, you know, I care about that. And that boundary has been crossed because this idiot on a bike. And that can, you know, I guarantee every cyclist feels this way about cars when they're, yeah. Oh, Gary.

how to do it. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. I'm so scared to drive on the road these days right now with people being distracted by their phones. And you hear, I hear so many stories weekly of bikes getting hit by cars. There was a hit and run over the weekend. It's scary as hell. It is so scary. And yeah, so Scott, do you have one we can work with or do you? Yeah, it's more, it's more of an empathetic aspect of it or more, you know, less about a thing that bugs me and a thing I'm just worried about, but there's this kid in our neighborhood, I don't want to get too specific, but someone who I used to be a teacher for way back in the day when they were like seven or eight. They're now in their teens. And since they were eight until now, I, whenever I see

them, super friendly, I just love this kid. Just absolutely love when I get to see this person. Super nice. They'll show up at the ice cream place while we're over there walking or something. We'll talk forever. Just a wonderful, wonderful kid. But I know that his or her, I'll say, home life is not great. And that there's a lot of infighting going on between the parents, that they're also wildly, like, anti-vax and, you know, just a bunch of stuff like that. And this is a kid who just needs to get out from under that to let their creativity and their potential. and all that stuff shine and I'm not their parent

and I can't control that but I feel this connection to them that's kind of parent-like and every time I see them I just want to steal them away from that and finish the raising of them until they're 18 because I know how hard it is for them

especially because of the kind of personality they have and how it conflicts with the parents' personalities and how these parents are just they're just using a different checklist that I think is harmful for this person and so I guess it's a little of both I'm annoyed with them to no end

and I'm not the only person they're known for just being a huge pain in everybody's butt in that part of the neighborhood but mostly I just feel for this kid and I wish I could do something for them I'm trying very hard not to reveal too much about even who they are

but anyway so yeah there's an example of it and I think about it a lot like I there are times where like last night Kim and I went to dinner I'm out driving we go past where they live and it's the first thought it's not to just oh here's a street and there's houses and it's that house and I and my brain immediately goes I wonder how they're doing how that how's that kid feeling you know knowing how hard high school is now knowing how hard it is to be a teenager they also had to be a kid during you know pandemic stuff that you know we still haven't really grappled with and all that stuff. And I just, I don't know, I just can't, I can't not think about it.

But I also have very little stewardship in this regard. I'm not allowed, I'm not, I'm not allowed to go over there and go, all right, that's it. Out of the way, parents. Here's my way or the highway. You know, I don't, I don't have that option. That's not the how society works. So, so I don't know. I don't know how to deal with that one, because that one feels like I don't have a lot of options. Now, I have some options. Some options are stop by once in a while with something cool. drop it off say hi let them know i'm thinking about them um you know kim makes cookies let's take let's make sure we stop there you know stuff like that but it's not those all feel very surface level when when i feel like this person's entire life trajectory could be you know could be in

not in danger just not they just aren't going to be able to go where they want to go and be who they want to be because they're just trapped. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So we're in, we're in, I mean, you could, I'm not your therapist, so I don't know you could tell me differently, but I don't think you have, it's not empathy here. You didn't have that experience.

No. No, I didn't. Your creativity was crushed in a ball. And it's not perfect. No one has anything perfect. But it's maybe a little different, but it's, you benefited from having pretty open parents and here you're seeing this kid being a misfit in their family, right? That's always hard.

Yeah, they don't really, and the kid's not like rebelling or like doing anything crazy or lying to us. If anything, I'm seeing this person just curl up into a bit of a ball of inaction, not being able to really know what to do or where to go and afraid of their parents and that kind of thing. Right. So you have kind of, you're sort of almost naturally acting. compassion, which is I care about this person. I want good things for them. It's hard to see

that those good things aren't coming. You know, you could see another kid you really care about and be like, yeah, things are really going great for them. And you could just feel the good kind of compassion there, right? Like, yeah. And then it's, it's, it's, where it's our most powerful is where it's actually the hard kind. Yeah, I think part of it too is that I'm, how I do relate to this particular kid is they are a lot like me when I was their age, but they're facing such a different set of blockades. Because you create a weird, now we call them neurodivergent kids, but kids like that that are just a little bit, you know, singing to their own tune, even if they have a great family system to sort of protect and foster that. Society, though,

lots of bumps in the road, like lots of people are going to run into it in school and later in the workplace or whatever, wherever, relationships that are not ready for you and your differences. And that's, I think, the part that I really, that's, I think that's what drives it mostly. Because if this is just some kid that's like, oh, I love football, wish I was playing football right now, you know what I mean? Like, I'd probably be a little less worried because that's, that's more of a societal welcome in. You're one of us. You play football. You know, you're a or you're a kid who plays football. But in this case, it's not a person that wants to write and draw and paint and express

themselves in these, like, more creative ways. And these parents are just not these people. They are just like, no, waste of time. Not doing that. So I think that's where the, if there's empathy, it's that part of it. And so when you take that feeling, you can do, there's like the small version of it, which I you guys probably going to do naturally right which is stop by chat when you get a chance remind him or her of their like just what you think is cool about them you know like you can have

this little bit of influence and you know later on in life they have a context for a different version of life and feeling you know accepted and maybe seen for their parts of them that or maybe not seen other places, right? So there's value to that, absolutely. Sure. And then I would say, and this isn't maybe just for you specifically, but anyone who's like, I'm feeling pretty helpless about where I'm feeling compassion, I can't go be the pseudo-dad to half the neighborhood.

So what can I do that helps, right? And so it may be that you get involved in some very specific, like, angle of caring for your community, right? It could be that I know of a woman in Utah, actually, who's got a son who's living with autism and is, like, socially, really, really, really struggled. And so she has created an entire, like, countywide social organization for these kids to get together and hang out and have prom.

And, you know, she just figures out how to fund it. And, like, she took the thing that was breaking her heart and created a benefit for so many other kids, right? So sometimes it can be big like that, and sometimes it can be small. It's irrelevant. What I think is tricky in modern life is we can have our empathy or our compassion tapped into

because we're seeing something that's hard for us to fathom is happening or is allowed to happen or any of those things. And so we feel a lot of the things and then we go on our day. And that is not, we're not metabolizing like I think of as like a cycle that has to be completed if that makes sense like if I saw someone on the side of the road suffering and I stop and help them and then I you know I can go on with my

day I've completed the cycle of my empathy being activated if that makes sense but if I'm passing many people on the street with signs and asking for money and I can't do anything about any of those things because I got to get to soccer practice you know I'm not I'm feeling and I'm not completing so people are left with guilt or they're or sometimes i think we have the opposite uh rather like i can't actually feel these things or it's too vulnerable or i feel powerless and i i now need to just blame everyone else and and i think that is modeled very young um whether we we're going to be compassionate for someone in in circumstances that are not great or if we are going to blame them and say well it's their own fault like you get a job like me or whatever like i think

sometimes that is, um, handed down a little bit. And so yeah, it's like, what do you do with it? So that's really what I want to challenge everyone with. And I know, you know, we can look around and see this big need. And the truth is with for every crazy thing you see, there is also an entire neighborhood getting together to make sure the family whose dad lost his job is going to be okay. You know what I mean? Like you, you, it is always, always outnumbered, at least in my experience. I think, sometimes in the and Brian's story with the bike actually really brings up an important point in my mind is when people are really afraid then we are not our best selves often like there is a hijacking that our amygdala will do in our whole system and just like wow we are now in fight

and fight and it's really hard yeah yeah yeah so it's hard to ground ourselves back into some other space and so I think the more scarcity there is or the perceived scarcity or or maybe violence in war and not knowing who to trust and all of those things will heighten our fear and then we're activated out of that. But it's still amazing things and good things come out of those places too. So I mean, I know people might just think it's Pollyannaish of me, but I'd like you to prove me wrong. Like I'd like someone to show me how every five mile radius does not have problems because

it does. And then within that, there's really good people trying and. those things. Yeah, if you find that five-mile radius, guess what? We're buying houses there. Yeah. But then those will go. Problems in this five-mile radius. Then the prices will go up and then jerks will move in and it'll be bad again. That's how this all goes. Keep the jerks out. We'll put up a wall. That's right. And we'll make Mexico pay for it. That's right. Well, all right. This is, you know what? This is good. This is, I don't know, I feel like today was a perfect day for this. Cathartic is a great word for it. So get out there and be not only more empathetic, but more

compassionate everybody find ways um all right wendy was fantastic no better you dot com popping hopping hopping doing good stuff anything you want to mention right now going on yeah we uh she should have got an email today but i didn't send it so it'll come later um yeah we have a week and a half before we start so june second will be the time mastery course and brian the perfect the perfect nice guy on a bike that's yeah it's going to be there yeah it's going to be great um Yeah, I'm very excited. So, yeah, go to knowbetteryou.com and you can read all about it. Yep, available now.

Go check it out. That's no better you. That's the letter you. Dot com. Wendy, have a fantastic week. Thank you. We'll see you next time. Bye now.

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So play one. That's right. Heather Kilgore wrote in. She put her full name. Maybe I shouldn't say her full name. But I did. Heather wrote in said tomorrow, May 23rd, is my husband and my 10th anniversary.

He is a regular TMS listener, which is how I became aware of the show. I believe he goes by the name, furry Viking. We have a road trip plan to celebrate, so we're going to be spending lots of time listening to podcasts. With any luck, we're currently on our way to North Carolina. I want him to know how much I appreciate taking this journey with him, both literally

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Happy anniversary to the... to the two of you, 10 is a good one. It's a biggie. Yeah. It's nice to get a real positive request, too. We've had some real downers lately. Not that they're not important. We've got to do them. I get it. But, you know, it's nice to have a little upper here at the end of the week. Exactly, yes. Well, and Heather, you know, not super familiar with the end of the show where it has to be a cover. Jamirquized, you give me something as an original. But I was able to find a cover of the song by Dina Eastwood. I don't think any relation to Clint. There's a Dina Eastwood that used to be married to Clint, but I think Dinah Eastwood is her own thing.

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