The Morning Stream - TMS 2829: Palindrome's End
Episode Date: May 28, 2025Gender Juice. Brian is a Narc. Kim can never leave again. Cocaine Bill. Pinch the hose! Biological plumbing. $23 for the Real Me. Bulletproof McD's. Sorry dog face. Clearly vague. Juvenile Delinquents... Need McDonald's Too! Carefully Placed Jug of Pee. Zero streak Boomer. Birds Are Dicks. Better Call Sal with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mr. Smith, that one time he went to Washington, said this.
Liberty is too precious a thing to be buried in books.
He was right, of course, and I have to think he would also suggest you sign up at patreon.com
slash TMS while you're at it.
Coming up on the morning stream, gender juice.
I am a narque.
Kim can never leave again.
Cocaine bill.
Pinch the hose.
Biological plumbing.
$23 for the real me.
Bulletproof McDees.
Sorry, dog face.
Clearly vague.
Juvenile delinquents need McDonald's too
Carefully placed jug of pee
Zero streak boomer
Birds are dicks
Better call Sal with Nicole
And more on this episode of
The Morning Stream
I just had a rough time with an occupational hazard
By the way, thanks for the ride
My name's Marilyn Polonski
Most of the artists I pose for
Are interested in their work
This one today was a real grope freak
I grabbed my clothes I rent so fast
I didn't get my $23
It's my modeling fee
$20 an hour with the clothes on
23 for the real me.
Almerie is bulging with artists.
I think I've been pulling on my boots with me still in them.
The Morning Stream.
You are listening to Adele DeZem.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Wednesday.
May 28?
Holy shit.
Sounds fast.
Another palindromic day.
It's, you know, 52825.
Yeah, I hope you guys have enjoyed the string of them because you're not going to get them for the rest of your life.
Tomorrow's the last one.
Tomorrow's it.
Yeah.
We'll celebrate it by mentioning it, you know.
Sure.
We're not going to party or anything.
We're not going to like, you know.
Oh, I am.
I don't know about you, but no, no.
I always celebrate the last day of a run of palindromic days in a week.
Fantastic.
Always.
Let's do fireworks.
That'd be fun.
Let's give Utahans one more reason to, you know, risk wildfires.
It's a great.
It's a great idea.
Why not?
One more won't hurt anybody, right?
Right.
Freaking hate it.
Hate it, hate it.
Anyway, I hope you're all doing well.
We had quite the Wednesday or the Tuesday yesterday.
Should have been chill.
Should have been like, hey, get up, do TMS.
That went fine.
No issues.
Great shows.
A little bit of audio stuff we just had to figure out at the beginning, but, you know.
Yeah, no big deal.
Worked out fine.
And we're doing good now.
And then I thought, well, the rest of the day is going to go just swimmingly like that.
It'll be fine.
No, me didn't.
I'll get to that in a minute, but it got real weird.
Before I tell you that story, we're going to play a call just to kind of loosen us up.
All right.
Sounds good.
You know that McDonald's where they had the violence and they had to ban the teenagers?
Yeah, were they, right, basically had to, no, no teenagers.
is allowed in without an adult or something.
They had to stop at the front of the glass.
Yep.
And what I love part, one of the things I do love a lot about what you guys do when you call in
is some of you live in areas or understand context about stories we talk about that we don't
have access to this context.
Right.
And we got one of those.
So here it is.
A switch and bulletproof on episode 2821.
You guys were talking about the over 21 year old McDonald's.
The only reason it jumped to mind.
is because that's part of my area.
That's where I drive Uber and Lyft late at night and things like that.
One of the things that you don't really know that it doesn't really make clear in the article that you were reading
was that that particular area that that McDonald's is located in.
There's a juvenile detention facility not too far from it.
And when you take into account all the rest of the stores in the area,
you know, you got Chinese restaurants and gas stations with bulletproof glass between you and the rest of them.
It's not just high school students that are a problem there.
There's a lot of gang stuff and other kinds of things.
So it's kind of a rough neighborhood that doesn't surprise me that a McDonald's would have to take efforts because otherwise they have to put the bulletproof glass in.
And I don't know whether or not that would really help.
Anyway, love the show.
There you go.
Makes perfect sense.
You know what?
Totally, totally on board with all that.
We all have our little areas, you know.
You've got what you always call the Cofax area or Cofax?
It's Aurora.
Yeah.
Well, Colfax itself is pretty whack.
yeah yeah we've got basically north salt lake is a little bit rough ogden's a little rough
like everywhere's got their place and uh yeah my guess is if you know those mcdonalds
probably too i don't know probably yeah i'm not looking at the chat because i don't want
to hear claire yell at us about equality you know that's right somehow our fault
juvenile delinquency McDonald's too i can only assume this is happening because i
I refuse to see.
I will tell you it's not, but it's just a matter of time.
I know.
Excellent.
As soon as the stream catches up, we're going to get an airful.
Not going to bite.
Yep, exactly.
Not biting today.
Not today.
Anyway, thank you for that update.
We also got this.
This is amazing.
So I get this text from Kevin.
And he says, for the morning stream, I had to make a stop on a highway on ramp and saw this sitting in the grass.
Not sure what it was, but I'm sure it was a jug of pee.
and he said and so I wanted to play this
this is about the jugs of pee
every time I get a notice about this
it's so on the side of the road
that's clearly absolutely 100%
that is a jug of pee and based
on how full it is that's
that's a few sessions
that's not one yeah not one off
unless that guy's got a massive bladder
which is possible it's possible
yeah but this looks like somebody used it a few
times maybe he's one of these
you know mythical Uber drivers
that works late, can't stop to pee anywhere.
And so he put, by the way, okay, I will say this.
I like that it's nicely set there.
It isn't tossed.
Yes.
Laying on its side, in the middle of a ditch or whatever.
It's sort of just set there.
Exactly.
Somebody could have just rolled down the window and hucked it out.
I guess you run the risk of it not making it fully out the window, right?
Like, rickishing off the frame of the door.
Then you've got a big problem.
It's like making your kid, you know, people.
outside the window and not hope it doesn't blow back on you but uh right anyway we love it we love it
and for those audio only listeners that's we just have a nice green pasture like edge to the off
ramp and on and there sits a jug literally like a milk jug empty milk jug but full of i don't know about
a quarter of the way or a third of pee in there yes yes so that is 100% what that is thank you
for that by the way kevin be careful i mean stopping on a highway on ramp uh it seems
like unless you've got a lot of room, a lot of space, could be a dangerous thing. So be
careful with stuff like that. Yeah, no P, no picture of a P jug is worth getting hurt, you know?
Yeah. But, uh, thank you for that. And also to this guy, uh, this is about the jugs
of P? Thank you for the new permanent, uh, I'm hoping that we don't get so many messages about
jugs of P that that has to like move up to a very, uh, frequent space on your soundboard.
You never know. Right now it's way low. It's like way down there, but it could,
creep up if people find enough of these i don't know geez okay anyway pee in a jug do what you got
to do let us know how it goes uh real quick here saw the story this is so lame what a stupid day
so i i get done with tms as i mentioned everything was fine yep shows posted we're good and i had
to hurry because um a we went a tiny bit long monday right and then b i have to get prep for greg
show which is like an hour after we ended right which isn't
for word on the street.
Yeah, exactly.
It's usually plenty of time I got enough to do.
But this was a big one because we had a ton of visual stuff.
The art team was coming on and they sent me like, I don't know, two gig worth a concept art
and some video, 3D renders, all this kind of stuff, which was great.
I was going to show all that.
It was going to be really a visual show, very cool stuff.
But I'm like, I can do all this in the hour.
They were finishing up on their end, which meant I was just getting those files.
and we were going to coordinate it and be all set to do it.
And when I was going to use the new sound thing and all this stuff.
And then about 10 minutes before I go live, Carter comes down here and goes,
Dad, we have a problem.
And I said, oh, no, what's going on?
And I didn't know, I mean, she sounded a little panicked,
but she's like, I'm going to die.
I can't go upstairs.
And I said, what happened?
She goes, boomer has thrown up everywhere.
And by everywhere, she didn't really mean everywhere.
But now, once I saw it, I got what she meant because it wasn't that big of an exaggeration.
Boomer, the dog that never throws up, never gets sick, eats anything and is fine.
She's a mutt and has no issues, no sensitivities, no nothing.
She's easy, the easiest dog.
I know what happened now because I've done some sleuthings since.
But what I did is I went upstairs and I look in there, and it isn't just, you know, a dog will leave a little patty or something.
Right, exactly.
Or whatever.
But this was massive, like massive.
Was it, boy, without home, I guess, because I know we're going to get into detail, but I mean, is it, was it one area that she did it?
Or did she like puke?
Then go to the other side of the room, puke some more, go to the other part of the room, puke some more into the kitchen puke.
Good news is she didn't travel much, but in the place she was in, it was like a 400-pound drunk person threw up.
that's how big it was and it was a lot of liquid and a lot of whatever and I could I could not tell
what had happened because it wasn't normal it wasn't just like oh she yacked up her breakfast because she
ate too quick or you know yeah it wasn't one of those and those are no big deal right it's just
barely digested food you scoop it up you throw it out no big deal easy to deal not this though
it was like horrible bottom of the gut awful clean out everything kind of stuff and it was everywhere
partially on Kim's relatively new room rug the rest of it's hardwood so then that was all on
the hardwood and it was everywhere and I went I have 10 minutes to get on the show what am I
gonna do I can't let this sit here so I haul asked I'm sorry but Carter unable to do anything
no great I'm glad you asked because she couldn't stop gagging while she was up there trying to
deal with it that's why she came to get me she goes I'm not going to make it dad I'm
throw up all over the place if i if i keep doing this and i'm like okay are you sure yeah it's
that it's that bad and i didn't believe her i thought it'd be just like a little no big deal sure sure
but after i saw it i kind of got it like this sort of thing doesn't make me queasy i just deal with it
yeah but i'll admit i got a little queasy it was just like oh my gosh this is a horror show in
here it was so bad like it's it's life preparation for carter oh i agree i agree you know uh they're
going to be, they're going to be horrible, gross things that she's going to have to
clean up in her life. And she better get used to it now. Yeah. No, I got a hundred percent agree
with that. Especially when, when dad has to get on, you know, an important show, an important
recording with other people that are relying on them and waiting on it. Yeah, exactly. So what I
did is I go outside, I go in the garage and I get the squeegee on a stick thing that we have.
We use it for windows. Yeah. And I squeegee everything into a pile.
okay because it's just the best way it was very loose very watery it's like a lot of you know
yeah so okay then i get two big rolls of toilet or uh paper towels yeah the brawny we get the brawny
you know or whatever i don't know what that's braw right whatever this stuff is we get two full rolls
of this and uh i start pulling it out and getting right well lost my water hold on
well good do you have that brownie handy still
yeah I was gonna need it
okay good the lid was on we're good
good everybody's good all right good anyway so
I go to clean it up and I do what I have to do
and I notice this is not normal looking
barf
something's wrong with it and so I'm actually worried
I'm thinking is she dying like what is going on
but this is not normal
the consistency of it I don't want to get too gross or anything
but I can tell it's got like
Too late.
Weird little bits of like seeds and maybe like stuff I can't recognize.
So I'm like, I got to find out what she got into.
It's clearly she ate something.
It has to be that.
Yeah.
So once I get that done and I got it into a place where it was pretty much done,
although the carpet's now soaking in this chemical stuff.
So later today, that's supposed to go overnight.
So today, when this show's over, I go in there with the carpet cleaner and suck it all up.
Right, the water, the, the, the water, yeah, carpet cleaner with the washing thing in it.
So I was able to do that in about eight minutes is how long that took.
Wow.
Still made it on the show.
Everything was fine.
And the show went good, but everything went fine.
But then the thing gets over.
I went up, finished up, just made sure we were just covering everything and everything else.
The dog just kind of moped around looking at me like, I don't know what happened.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Sorry, I can't do anything about it, basically.
Sure.
And then I found out she wrecked.
Overnight she had also yacked in her bed, and I didn't know that.
Okay.
So we had to get her a new bed yesterday, this whole thing.
But anyway.
So all that ends, and I go on the, I'm now on the trek to find the truth.
Sure.
Like, you've got a little bit of, you've got some, some evidence.
Yeah.
A little bit of forensics, you know?
You can't dust for vomit.
Yeah.
So I go outside, and I'm like, it has to be something out here.
There's nothing in the house like what I say.
saw. So I'm like, it's something out here. And I find one of Kim's tomato pots.
Okay. And the end of the story is basically, I blame birds for everything. Birds are dicks.
Okay. These birds hang out above the, she has a number of these tomato pots that are all going to grow up on these vine stick things.
They're already starting to. And above it is a bird feeder full of this seed. And for whatever reason, she's always been sort of into the seed. If there's extra seed that falls on
the ground, Boomer, for whatever reason, loves to go find the seed and eat the seed.
It's not good for a bit.
He probably sees the birds eating it and then says, oh, I'm going to eat that too.
Sounds good.
She actually seems to really like it, like, I actually crave it.
The other two could care less, so I don't know what the deal is with her.
But normally it's no big deal.
It's like three or four seeds on the ground, no big deal.
It's like, boomer, get out of there, and it's not a big deal.
Right.
This case, she ate probably two pounds of soil.
soil that contain fallen seeds.
Okay.
A little bit of some, it's not a toxic poison,
but it's some kind of natural,
something she puts on the tomatoes to help them grow.
To help them grow?
Sure.
It's not chemical base because we have animals.
We're not trying to hurt them.
So it's something else, some natural form of this.
But probably not something you want to eat and just sit in your stomach.
Yeah.
So she ate all of that, and I now can see it.
There's like this huge gouge of dog face.
and she had eaten all this dirt
Like a
Right
The displacement of
About a boomer sized head
Yeah
Yeah
And it was really
If I had to weigh I didn't weigh this obviously
But it's probably about two pounds worth of dirt
Which which translates pretty directly
To about as much yak as she did in the other room
Was about two pounds of dirt
It turns out
Anyway
Mystery solved
Charges pending
Freaking
Yeah
You know, I don't know.
Maybe I'll have to testify at the court thing.
I don't know what's going to happen.
But anyway, it was so stupid, dude.
And this always happens when Kim leaves.
Something weird happens when Kim leaves every time.
And this was it.
And here's the thing like, you know, you probably got some sympathy when you described this to Kim and said,
oh, my God, you won't believe what Boomer did.
If Tina were on a trip and I said, oh, my God, the cat, you know, did.
And then I just described the same amount.
Let's say that somehow the cat was able to open up a wormhole.
in her stomach and puke out as much stuff as I'm assuming the dark did
Tina would go yeah good you good that you know about time you have to do something like that
even though I've cleaned up cat puke before but I feel like like like you know and Tina would just
be like yeah happens good I'm glad you had to deal with that in this house in this household
and it's been true since since the day we got married and every time any of our kids are ever sick
or any of that I am the puke take care guy you are okay and it makes
well be that the reason I can't vomit for 20 years is because I'm the one that has to deal with
everyone else's animals, people, all the vomit we've ever had to deal with. I have to do it.
So maybe that's part of this. I mean, sure, why not? Yeah, it's, you know, it's a,
maybe that, maybe that streaks some kind of exposure. There's some relation. Yeah, I don't know.
Why not? I have no idea. So the whole thing sucks and it was a lot of fun. So I really enjoyed it.
Well, I'm sorry. It sucks. It sucks to you had to deal with that.
But, man, I'm sure Kim is laughing.
Oh, she thinks it's great.
I called her, and she's having a good time.
So she's kind of chill.
And I go, hey, you wouldn't believe what Boomer did.
And I explained it.
And she goes, she goes, oh, that's a bummer.
Anyway, we're getting deep dish pizza later or whatever things she's doing.
Yeah, right.
It's like, shit.
So it's been lots of fun.
Yep.
I'm sure it's like, I'm sure that's exactly how it's like, well, sorry I'd deal with that.
We're having fun out here, but playing with raccoons.
Yeah, they're like calling the Guinness people and saying,
I think I've got the record for the largest dog vomit in one moment and see if they'll...
Oh, see if they'll send somebody out with the camera.
Come out and, yeah, come out and deal with it.
But anyway, it's all good.
And the other two dogs have been a little bit freaked out because they just know something's wrong.
Yeah.
And they're just, they're being all jittery and like, are we in trouble?
And they don't...
I mean, you know, dogs obviously sense when, you know, one of their owners is out on a trip or something.
And they're like, uh, uh, oh,
is this person ever going to come back?
Yeah, yeah.
They're so weird about that stuff.
Because you can reassure them all you want.
Truth is, they don't know English.
So the best they got is,
I hope he comes back.
I don't know.
Exactly, yeah.
Every time Carter leaves, Ripley,
and to her credit, by the way.
So Ripley's, anytime Ripley's either
barfed in her kennel or one time
she got really bad stomach stuff
and pooped all through her kennel,
Carter always takes care of that stuff,
takes care of her dog.
It's when it's someone else's dog that we start to see
this little piece of selectiveness out of my daughter.
Yes, okay.
All right.
I got mine, you get yours kind of thing.
Wasn't my dog.
Interesting.
That sucks for you.
Yeah, interesting how that works out for her.
Yeah, very interesting.
Well, anyway.
Glad Boobber's doing better.
I'm going to go ahead and tell Dunaway that it's time.
and I'm going to tell you people at home
that if you want to do
what we're about to do,
you just need to do what you always do.
Yeah, because that's right.
They're going to DM you.
You're going to give them the thing to call in.
The code, exactly.
So you'll do exactly what you've always done,
but you're going to click something now.
That's the only difference.
Yeah.
Because you guys have to click something.
All right.
Simple as that.
All right, we are going to bring in our old pal Brian to start with.
Let's see if I can get his,
Let's see, we'll do this first
Oh, looky there. It's time for us to talk to Mr.
Brigh guy himself. It's Brian Dunaway, everybody. Hello.
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
Oh, hi. Oh, hi. How are you?
That worked very well and very quickly.
What is this? What is this new technology?
I know, crazy, right? You picked right up, though.
Yeah, that was great.
You're on some Linux sort of device or whatever you're doing.
Right, right. And this is done through the Brown.
and I'm on a Linux device and I have a headset that has a retractable no not retractable a you can flip it up and if you flip it up it goes in a mute it's a hardware switch hmm okay okay the microphone okay okay okay okay got you your microphone pulls down and turns into a like that when it's up it's a transformer it's a transform it's a transform mine is that too like right now I don't have this isn't being used as a microphone but I can pull this down and then it automatically starts using it for my phone or something.
Oh, it's in, so it's, yours is built.
Oh, I see. That's cool.
They should all be like that.
They should. It seems like such a simple, you know, natural way of doing it.
They should all be like that.
A no-brainer.
I forget that. Exactly. Exactly. I like that a lot.
All right.
So if my phone rings, I just flip this down, I can answer it because it, it automatically connects to my phone as soon as I flip that thing down.
Very, very nice. Well, we have with us on the line, our fourth caller, that person turned out to be Raven T-T-CG.
Hello, Raven.
C-C-C-G, Scott.
What did I say?
C-T-G?
What did I say?
You said T-CG.
I should have just, oh, C-T-G.
That's right.
You know why I do that?
Because I always want to say
collectible card game or something.
Oh, C-C-G.
Yeah, why do I want to do that?
Probably because you make those, you know?
Sort of.
Yeah, you kind of do.
Yeah.
Sure.
Why not?
If that's what you believe.
I can believe what I want to believe.
It's all right.
Hey, well, it's good to have you here, Raven.
We're going to play a game.
Brian's going to explain the rules.
we're going to go for it. Brian, how's this work?
Yeah, Raven and Josh got to go to this really cool Stitch pop-up store
in the Mall of America recently, and that thing looks so freaking amazing.
Oh, are you a super fan of the Stitch, Raven?
Yes, actually. It's one of my favorite Disney movies.
Oh, nice.
What do you think of the live action? Have you seen it yet?
I have not. We were going to go this weekend, but we ended up doing Great Wolf Lodge this weekend instead.
That's a great alternative. That place is awesome.
I like that place.
I know some people think it's kitchy.
I think those places are cool.
I like it in there.
Well, anyway, let's do it, Brian.
What do you got?
Let's get to our game.
All right.
So, it's time to play the tadpooly feud.
I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics.
Survey coming soon, by the way.
And Scott and Brian will have to predict the answer that they gave us.
It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess.
Raven, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.
If your team wins, you will get a prize package that includes.
Blood Rage Digital Edition
And the Lord of the Rings
Adventure card game definitive edition
Oh, that game's pretty good
I like it
And you guys like, you know, you make card games
So that's cool, right, Raven?
That's right.
Yeah.
Nothing wrong with that.
Cool.
Courtesy of a taffy guy.
Big thanks, Mike, for sending these in.
Don't enjoy my taffy from taffy guy
and Missed taffy guy lady.
Yeah.
So, so much taffy.
Mrs. Taffy Guy lady.
I like it. All right. Cool. Let's do it.
All right. Let's get to it. Go ahead and put your hands.
Oh, we're attempting to reconnect to the server.
I also did. I turned, I noticed Scott also this thing does not save your no headphones setting thing.
So I turn that on. Hopefully it's...
Oh, it lets me do it too. So it doesn't matter. Yeah, I can, I have full control over that. So you're good.
Cool. All right. Cool. Off we go.
All right. Let's get to this right now. Hands on your buzzards. And here's the question. We asked 442 Tadpoolers.
besides a leader's face, what is something you see printed or embossed on world currency?
Scott.
Slogans.
Like, in God we trust.
You know what I mean?
Yep.
You said they're really slow, too.
As a real slogans.
Slogans.
I'm going to say no.
Damn it.
That is, by the way, there is somebody.
did say that, uh, 12.
Okay.
So just out of the top, top 11.
Uh, Brian, uh, you full, full chance to guess.
We get, gave me that full question again, because you kind of like, goes weaving and bobbing there when you was.
I was.
Well, I, you know, I have to have to build up suspense, man.
Besides a leader's face, what is something you see printed or embossed on world currency?
His feet.
How about pyramids?
Show me pyramids.
Yeah, that Illuminati symbol with the Eye of Providence on the back of the $1 bill,
Pyramid with the Eye.
Raven.
Answer number four, which means, yeah, you get Raven and you get control of the board.
Awesome.
And you go into this thing with four points.
Very nice.
All right, you two.
Give it to us.
What do you got?
Raven, what do you think?
And you got anything on the top of your head?
What about numbers?
Ooh, you know what?
That's a good idea.
We should put some numbers on our cash.
Yeah.
Good idea.
That way you know how much it is.
is.
Oh, see?
That's a good way to keep track.
All right.
Show me, show me the numbers.
Number value.
Denomination.
Yes, number two, answer on the board.
I feel like an idiot for not knowing that one.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
All right.
What else you got?
Let's see, number of values.
So I don't know.
What do you think, Raven?
Maybe besides a leader's face.
Okay.
So sometimes you get.
People who aren't leaders, they're just well-beloved, but how do you say that in a top 10?
I don't know if you can.
Can you?
Raven, do you have an idea?
I worked at the bank for 15 years, but for some reason all pictures of money is gone from my head.
It's so true.
Like we use it.
I've had, I still have four $20 bills in my wallet that I had.
when I was in Las Vegas a month ago.
Oh my gosh.
I have a 20 just like that that I haven't touched.
This is sitting in there.
What's that about?
Weird.
I feel like if like people put birds on their money all the time, what do you, what do you?
What?
But is that, is that too vague?
Is that like, does it go with animals?
Oh, animals.
Yeah.
Just go straight animals.
Yeah.
I like that.
Okay.
All right.
I think we can go that general.
Let's see.
We'll see.
All right.
Show me.
Show me animals.
Oh, shit.
This is your, uh, your general.
your mammals, your, uh, your, uh, moose, your, uh, your moose money, your moose money.
Yep.
Everybody's got their moose money.
Damn it.
All right.
That's a pretty good call.
Now that doesn't, that might exclude something that's very specific.
So, you know, just, like a bear.
Like a bear.
No, a bear would be an animal.
Yeah, I think those are animals.
Yeah.
Those are animals.
Last bit checked.
Mammals of some sort.
Well, when I said pyramid, I was thinking like landmarks, but I wasn't sure if that was going to be too vague
Raven. This is a weird one.
This has been a really weird one.
I agree. It's a weird one. This all
came, by the way, these all come from you guys.
They all come from the listeners who
submit as part of the survey
process, submit ideas for future
questions, and so this came up on
somebody else's. Yeah, I mean,
that would go because you think about all the state
quarters. Oh, God, that's when I went to
to debate, too, is the state quarters.
Oh, my gosh.
On all money, isn't there
like a guarantee,
whether it be, hey, we just
trust us in god we trust or you know like some kind of guarantee like this is tender
interesting not soft and not soft it's almost as if somebody said that well i said i said slogans
but you're you're right that maybe there's a distinction there i don't know is there right right
well in god we trust would be kind of like a slogan but uh legal tender that's like a statement
it's like uh yeah less of a guarantee more of uh like yeah like a promise that you it's more like
Yeah, the thing you just need to trust and be okay with and hope to work.
Yeah, I don't want to lead you away from that or towards an answer, but you might want to, I mean, you know.
How about a seal of approval?
Is that a seal?
I think we should just stick with landmarks done away.
Okay, landmarks.
Yeah, give us one.
What's not just landmarks in general?
There's about to give Scott a chance.
Oh, we are saying.
is give Scott a chance.
All right, show me landmarks.
Yeah, landmarks, landscape, mountains, natural structures.
There's an arches monument that you see on some or a rock face or just mountains or whatever.
Rock face.
Yeah.
Rock face.
I don't know why that makes me laugh.
I don't either.
It's a super villain.
I don't know why.
I am rock face.
I am rock face.
I am rock fair me.
All right.
What else she got?
Another thing we joked about at the bank is that we were all immune to cocaine because
there was so much cocaine on money.
hilarious.
Hilarious embossed right on there.
That's true.
They say that $1 or no, $100 bills or something, there's some denomination that is most likely
50s that is most likely to contain traces of cocaine than other bills.
Which one has the highest content of like G string stuffing?
Oh, dollar, dollar bills for sure.
Are you, money's gross.
Is it considered cheating if I'm sitting here staring at this $1 bill I pulled out of my wallet?
No, not at all.
I mean, I figure if you're lucky enough to have paper money in this obsolete paperless society, go for it.
Some things I'm seeing as like, you know, serial numbers and signature.
There you go, serial numbers.
Serial number?
Okay, yeah, okay.
All right.
Let's do it.
Let's say that.
Show me serial number.
Oh, all right.
Yeah.
Oh, serial number.
Yeah, that's how you saw it on eBay with those ladder bills.
Cereal number item, number eight on the list there.
Bring your total up to 25.
Does that give them, that's not quite guaranteed, yeah.
No, no.
I think if they got nine or ten, one of those two slots.
One of those two would lock it in.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, you're doing good.
Lock it in, lock it in.
That's right.
All right.
All right.
What else you got?
I want to know.
Amy put gender juice as a suggestion in the tadpole in the chat.
And I don't know if I want to ask any further questions about gender juice.
Again, as a former banker, you do not.
Okay.
Yeah.
I assume that's like connected to the stuff in it near G-Stra.
The stripper kind of thing, yeah.
Yeah.
I just picture all those kids like looking in the fridge and like, hey, what do you got to drink?
Oh, orange drink, grapes, purple stuff.
Gender juice.
Oh, sunny D.
Yeah, your mom's the coolest.
She has gender juice in her fridge.
That's right.
Yes, exactly.
Gross.
So what is going to be, what is number one, though?
What would you call the designs that they put in there, like the spider webbing and stuff?
Oh, yeah, like ornament, ornamentation.
You don't think, I don't think he was going on.
You mean, like, yeah, what do you call that?
Philigree?
Depends on what it is.
You could go specific.
or the security strips now that's up but that's not really decoration this yeah there could be a tadpole
answer yeah it could be not saying and they all have the watermarks too
oh water watermark that is a good way to say that's a decent answer because literally in boss
sometimes yeah literally hmm you want to say that when the when the new 20s came out and we got those
in at the bank those were just like we stood there and stared at them for hours yeah yeah yeah
watery marks what do you think
yeah let's just
anything's a good one all right do a watermark
okay yeah all right
show me watermarks
oh that's a shame
yeah no not surprisingly
because that's a great answer
surprisingly that I didn't even come up
once in the in the survey
interesting
yeah which surprisingly security features watermarks
I would have put all all together
so any of those things like that
I'm gonna feel real dumb if the
is wrong, or I'm going to feel brilliant, if it's right. I'm going to say text, word, letters.
I'm going to ask you to be a little more specific. Oh, shit. Yeah. Okay. Now, you've, you've said
slogans and modos and somebody, and that was number 12. Then I'll say denomination or the amount
of the thing. So if you got a $10 bill, it's not only has a $10, but it says $10. Oh, got you.
like the text that says that goes along with the number yeah it's it's the word version of 20
of 10 yeah so yeah in case you don't yeah in case you don't do math maybe there's a number
equivalent yeah we're all we're all I realize we're saying international currencies here and not
just yeah us American money yeah but I have a feeling it's going to be centric that way so I don't
know how others do it but I'm going to say I'm going to say that yep all right uh good let's get
to that uh all right show me the the words uh that denote the denomination of the bill
well shit yeah gosh that pool comes up with some dumb dumb ideas for surveys boy don't you always
don't you always put like the the name of the currency like dollar or euro or right
oh i see that's something a little bit different yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the country
Oh, the name of the country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you'll know where you can spend it, right?
Shit.
That's probably...
Valid only in...
Right, right.
Expression date.
I mean, I know, like, a 10 has...
It says the United States of America on it here in the States.
Yeah, yeah.
I assume other countries do that, where they put their name on there?
I would assume...
Yeah, I used to, like, pick out the foreign coins that would come in and deposit to keep them.
I just can't think...
A loony.
A loony.
A loony, yeah.
what's the one with a hole in it just kidding take that can't take that you canadian yeah take that you jerks
all right is that what you're going with the country of origin country of origin okay that what you want to say raven
do it do it country of issue all right show me country of issue
tag of it tied for tied for 22nd place damn it yeah and this is on that it doesn't matter front or back right
we're not it's not specific doesn't not matter something
printed or embossed on world currency paper money coins whatever uh and we've taken out the
option of which leader because that's part of the question so that's not it um by the way i think
we're going to have to start thinking like the tadpole very i mean that's hard that's you know
what does that even mean i i would say you don't have to on this one oh interesting just you know
you broke the tadpool didn't you ib it well this one the their answers came far lower with
things like, you know, we'll get to more of them, but like secret code to fighting hidden
treasures by our phone.
I was going to say like an illuminati shit.
I thought she was going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
All right, I don't want to go with, um, I'm looking at a five here.
Sure.
A fiverer.
I'm going to say, you can get some labor out of that.
Look at this.
The signature of the person in charge of treasury.
So in our case, it's the treasurer.
secretary of the treasury during the time they were there and for any printing was done so yeah i'm
going to say that okay see show me the signature yeah yeah what uh surprisingly again tied for
22nd place son of a leg's face where's something you see printed or embossed yeah on world
currency so you know looking at what you've got right you've got uh number value you've got the pyramid with
the eye, animals, which I've told
you is, you know, not
all-encompassing. It's just
means like, you know, your mammals and your
things like that. Sure.
Your natural landmarks, landscapes, mountains,
et cetera. Serial numbers.
People who are always putting
birds and landmarks,
but not landmarks, not like,
but more like, you know,
capital buildings and stuff like that.
Oh, and that's the other thing.
We haven't really, we're focused so much on paper
money. This could include the coins, I
I should say some of those answers that you just talked about, Brian.
Those are really good answers.
What about some kind of capital or governmental facility?
What do you think about that?
Architecture of some sort?
Buildings.
Buildings.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's be vague.
Buildings.
Okay.
All right.
Let's do it.
Buildings.
Show me buildings.
Yep.
Number one answer on the board.
Buildings and monuments.
Oh, my gosh.
that's great like monticello the lincoln memorial the uh capital building yeah smart yeah i always forget
what is back there the back is what i'm not i never look at the back of money so i just don't
i always look at the back that's where the that's where the treasure map's where the fun is
i know come on you got to break it out of the frame that's right follow it to the treasure you got it
you get it till you get some junk to hold this for a second yeah my nicholas cage by the
way is via Andy Sandberg. It's my impersonation of Andy Sandberg's impersonation of Nicholas Cage.
Which I think is just Cage and Faceoff, really is the one. I could eat a page for
hours. That's basically it. We'll follow under A, B, C, D, E, FG. There you go. It's not bad.
Not the B's! Anyway, go ahead. You still have five answers still on the board. Oh, no, four
answers. Sorry, four answers still on the board. Plus the bonus.
I'm like, I still like what you said about the ornamentation.
I don't know exactly how you say that.
Boy.
Yeah, I mean, if you could name specific types of that ornamentation.
Like I said, the spider webbing is all over ours.
I love spider webbing.
That's my favorite thing we do.
That little hidden, hidden spider up in the corner.
Yeah.
I just got a DM.
I will not say from who, but someone just sent me a DM saying, I'll shorten it.
They basically says, why do you guys keep helping the person win every week?
Because they love us.
Because we like our contest.
I mean, I understand it's not much of a game if we're always throwing it in their direction.
But, you know, I don't think what Brian is doing is throwing it.
He's just saying, uh, narrow down your thoughts a little.
By the way, go ahead and let me know who that person is, and I won't when they call in.
Plus right now, we're very lopsided right now.
We're getting very close to it.
One more eggs, you know, we're way ahead.
Exactly. We're exactly, right. There's, you know, we're, there's, there's very little chance that Scott is going to catch up with these four answers that are still on the board.
Yeah, I don't know how I would even do that. I'm all, I'm so lost as to what to say next. I don't, you know, who knows.
Let's go with spiderwebbing. All right. Spiderweb.
All right. Sorry, I'm not home right now. I'm walking through the spider webs.
All right. Show me spider webs.
Yeah, the spider and the webs did come up, but there's, yeah, also tied for 22nd place.
Because the back of the one is like literally a bunch of spider webs, right?
It is, right.
It's like a grid, a warped grid with an actual spider web in one corner of it.
With a little spider.
A little spider dangling from it.
And they may have changed that for the newer versions of it.
I don't think, yeah, I think, I want to say that.
that's still on there, but I don't have any, I don't have any ones.
It's the one where they blew their faces up and moved it slightly to the left.
I don't know if they changed that or not.
Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm going to just take a shot into the dark here and let's say a seal,
an official seal. Sure. Great seal.
Mm-hmm. Right.
Show me the seal, any seal, a great seal, but any seal. Or the singer. See,
ah, damn it.
Singer, seal. Yeah. Great seal was number 18 in the last.
Give me birds.
Yeah, why didn't you say birds?
Number three answer on the board was eagles, loons, birds.
Obviously, America, Canada, all other.
Did they all have, everything has birds?
I didn't know that.
A lot have birds.
No, I mean, this isn't something that's found on every piece of world currency.
This is just something you find on world currency.
But the back of a quarter has got a big old eagle on it.
The Canadian money has the loony has a loon on it.
You even talked about the...
Yeah, it's got a whole...
in it, though, so you never know what's back there.
Just kidding.
And the people who are saying, but they're animals.
I said, no, I specifically said, this is like your animals, your mammals, because
enough people said, eagle, loon, birds,
that, uh, yeah, you have to give the foul, you got to give the foul their own space.
Exactly.
That's it.
It was very, I was very, uh, clearly vague on the, mammable.
Uh, number seven, the flag.
Oh, Jesus.
How do we not think of that?
A lot of currency has a flag on it.
Number nine, this is where I was going with the discussion about the filigree, the ornamentation.
Flora.
So like your flowers, your wheat, your branches.
And sometimes in the corners, they've kind of got like the little filigree is like a branch and olive branch or wheat or things like that.
Gotcha.
And that's less about the pattern and more about specific integrated stuff.
Yep.
Okay.
It looks like I should just read the chat and listen to what my.
I know Josh is saying I said Eagle first thing yeah take that you guys go to now don't go to bed mad
each other tonight okay that's all we're saying yeah yep um let's see let's see what number 10 is
you were I was trying to get you to go there Scott but like your e pluribus unum Latin phrases
yeah it gives a gravitas to be exactly it's not like here's your here's your you know
your specific wording but it's just any Latin phrase
Number 11 was bridges.
I can't think of bridges on money, but there must be the bridge on the back of a money.
Probably the gorge in Oregon.
Yeah, people are proud of their bridges.
It makes sense.
They want to put it on their money.
Sure.
Why not?
I've never heard of that, but that's great.
Let's go with some of these other big ones.
Map.
Sometimes you get a map or like the, not a treasure map, but like a, here's what Germany is shaped like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
like bordered lines.
Yeah.
Right.
Exactly.
The year of issue, absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
This one feels very Canadian.
Oh, that's very Canadian.
Sure.
Charles Darwin on money.
Not a leader, but.
Gandhi's on money too, right?
And Gandhi on some money.
That's right.
Let's see.
Indian money, I guess.
Gandhi probably is.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Stars.
The currency symbol, so the dollar sign the pound,
things like that
I can't think of actually
do they have that
where it says
they don't have a little
dollar sign next to the one
do they don't think so
I'm looking right now
the two doesn't
the one
mine says money money money
on it
does it yeah
oh you know what
the one has a one
on the one
written O and E
on top of the one
right but doesn't have
the dollar bill sign
like the dollar logo
no because I think that
because that gets used
in different countries
I don't think it's universal
to American currency, so I can't imagine
them in doing that. And it's only
on the rear of it that has the
one on top of a one, but yeah, no
dollar sign. Does money say do not
duplicate on it? Like, just
in case somebody's a little vague on that, it's like,
can I make copies of this? I don't think it does.
No, you're just expected to know that.
It just says, this is legal tender.
I don't, yeah, I think you're supposed to just know that you're not
you're not allowed to copy money.
Right. Right.
Let's see here.
let's see big ben although i would have if that were higher i would have actually included that
in building monument not like we need any differentiation um uh country name you guys said that's down
there crown um i thought about crown but i was just that it's always on somebody's head isn't it
i mean right on the leader's hit i was like yeah kind of part of the leader right yeah there's
Empty promises, false hopes.
Two separate answers, by the way.
Now, that is a tadpool answer.
I love that.
Yes.
Harp.
Maybe Irish money probably has a harp, right?
Probably.
If not, oh, they have a little pot of gold in the corner.
Just kidding, they don't know that.
All the lucky charms.
Let's see.
Scott's butt, somebody said.
Ships or boats.
Okay.
Yeah, you do see ships and boats in there.
Let's see.
Spiderweb.
Um, there you go.
The number 42, uh, and the solar system.
And the solar system.
Who the hell does that?
This is good everywhere.
I kind of like that idea, though.
I just don't know who does that.
I don't think we do.
There were quite a few of these that's like, yeah, I could have grouped that into this.
I could have grouped this other thing.
And then we would just have like, you know, eight very, very or six very general things.
And then four extremely specific things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we can't have that.
Well, well, well done, everybody.
Especially, Raven, you win, and you, you know, you walk away with some stuff in hand.
Congratulations.
Yeah, explain those again, Brian, and who game.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's Blood Rage, digital edition, and the Lord of the Rings adventure card game, definitive edition.
Yeah.
It's the one that defines the game the most.
That's right.
Exactly.
Oh, yeah, I don't.
I have to look for my conversation.
Oh, actually, we just talked this morning about that place, and there it is right there.
so I can just paste these right here.
Nice.
There you go.
I was just gifted a steam deck from a friend.
Oh, well done.
Gifting.
That's fantastic.
You're winning.
Yeah, you're winning at life.
Tell your husband to eat it.
Tell Josh to eat it.
All right.
Dunoway, it's good to have you here, of course, as always.
We had a really great Monday episode of Play Retro this week.
And we talked about Doom, Doom, and Doom 2.
And Doom 64 for a little added spice there.
It was fantastic conversation.
If you haven't heard it,
no better time to do it.
In fact, starting next week on Play Retro
and Core this week,
we're giving away two separate copies
of the new Doom game
to some lucky winners,
and it's all kind of
because we've been talking about it,
brand new game out,
why not?
It's like so many years later.
So that's all fun.
But also on Play Retro,
we're creeping up on something new next week.
What are we talking about, Dino?
Oh, next week, we're going to get ourselves,
we're going to race around some ridges,
Ridge racer.
And what a perfect time.
because one of those is coming to the Arcade Archives 2,
probably in preparation for our new Switch 2 coming out for too much longer.
So get back to the arcade with some ridge racing.
That's right.
Now I can say with very little lag, kiss our butts.
Ah, nice, nice.
He's out.
All right.
Brian, it's time for us to take a break.
We're going to take a break.
When we come back from the break, we'll bring Tom Meriden here.
We'll talk a little tech.
And then after that, we'll spend.
been some time with recommendals. Randy and Nicola
here. Lots to talk about
still. So much. Stick around.
Brian, what are we playing? We got
for India in the middle, we're going to be going to Nashville.
And, you know,
people wonder why we don't.
I don't know if people wonder this because I'm pretty obvious
about that. I'm not a big fan of a lot of new country.
But what I do like is
more bluegrassy kind of sound.
And this one definitely kind of fits in that.
Bluegrass rock, kind of more of the
country influence music that I like.
This is a band called Swade and Lean, Swade and Lean.
It's Angelo Patraglia, Grammy Award winner dude, and singer-songwriter Euline Sherman, who just goes by Lean.
This is their brand new debut.
It's called Hym for Lost Things, or Hymns for Lost Things.
Comes out Friday, June 20, if you get to hear the whole album then.
But right now, you get to hear the first song.
It's B-O-T-T, which I think stands.
for Blood on the Treks, which is funny because yesterday we played Blood on the Sealing for
Indian the Middle.
How about that?
Here's a BOTT by Swade and Lean.
She had a pad up in Amsterdam and 171.
She had a pad up in Amsterdam and 71.
Yeah, she could read me like she had my chapter in verse.
She said, come over.
I got a tune bug stuck on its back.
I said, don't touch it.
He might just like it like that.
I said, don't touch it.
He might just like it like that.
We'll sip some rosé.
Maybe some red.
And we can let the idiot win.
in
all through our heads
Let's drink some live
Listen to
Run on the tracks
Drink some live
Listen to
Run on the tracks
Drink some live
Listen to
Run on the tracks
We drink some light
Listen to
Run on the tracks
said her grandmother lived up in Carnegie Hall
and took photographs of Hollywood stars
when she was little, she danced all around the halls
with Bella Lagosie and Andy Wall
We'll sip some rosé
Maybe some red
And we could let the idiot
We'll blow through our head.
Let's drink some wine and listen to, blood on the tracks.
Drink some wine and listen to blood on the track.
We'll drink some wine and listen to, blood on the track.
Let's drink some wine and listen to blood on the track.
Let's drink some wine, listen to blood on the tracks, let's drink some wine, listen to, let's drink some wine, listen to, blood on the tracks, let's drink some wine, listen to, blood on the tracks, let's drink some wine, listen to, blood on the tracks, let's drink some wine,
Listen to blood on the tracks
Let's drink some wine
And listen to blood on the tracks
Unfortunately I'm not okay
I'm suffering from hypercedric aneurysms
And my medicine is in the glove
compartment of the stolen car you get difficult and i'm going to jerk you up tight
and we're back hey who was that one more time sure that's swayed and lean with a
song called b o t from their upcoming album hymns for lost things nice nothing to do with
hymns the erectile dysfunction not the four hymns no it's uh h y and
M&S.
Okay, good.
MNS.
I want to make sure that's a well-understood.
It's a very good idea to differentiate for sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, let's keep that nice and clear.
All right, Tom Merritt will be heading in shortly.
I meant to send him a link before the song, but I didn't.
Oh, no.
I've still got to get used to this, but it's totally fine.
He'll be joining the call shortly, and when he does, boy, howdy, are we off to the races?
Then you're in trouble.
Wait until he shows up.
Then we're all in trouble.
Because he'll have, you know, he'll have tech.
thoughts, tech ideas.
Always.
Tech, uh,
tech, uh, rumors.
Yeah, tech rumors.
Scuddle butt.
Sure.
Uh, speaking of which, before he gets here, what's on tap for daily music headlines today?
Oh, um, well, you can find out about, uh, how Drake during a live stream yesterday accidentally
posted his phone numbers.
So, uh, if you never call him on your cell phone, well, now you can.
You always call me on my cell phone.
Exactly.
That's amazing.
Also, the woman who appears on the cover of the Black Sabbath debut album wearing the black robes in front of the burnt-out building, she is now auctioning off her autograph for a cat charity.
So you can win that if you're the right person.
That's freaking fantastic.
Some great news that I get to break on today's show.
That's right.
Well, DailyMusicheadlines.com for more.
Look who's with us, everybody.
Oh, I got to play this first.
Isn't technology wonderful?
It sure can be, but only when Tom Merritt joins us.
Hi, Tom Merritt, how are you?
Whoa, this is weird.
Hi.
Weird, right?
Very weird.
You sound great, though.
Yeah, keep you on your toes.
That's right.
Yeah, you can't see me, but I'm standing on my toes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, shit.
Well, look, if you do, you do what you got to do, man.
Here's what we like about Wednesdays.
Tom comes on.
He talks about the tech stories of the day.
Sometimes this stuff is enlightening, infuriating, usually insightful.
Okay.
That's how I look at it.
it. And the infuriation never comes from Tom delivering it. It's because it's something that just
pisses everybody off, whatever it may be. Well, you don't think it comes from me. Oh, shit.
Well, anyway, it's good to have you here, man. What is percolating at the DTNS coffee machine?
Apple?
Hugo Roasters from Utah, actually. Oh, good. Delicious.
Yeah. Now that you mentioned it, when I was changing planes in the Salt Lake Airport for CES, I found this little place
called Hugo Roasters, and they have, for their logo, a little white dog that looks like my dog.
So I bought a coffee there, and it was so good. I bought some coffee beans, and I've been
using those beans today. They're well regarded here. Hugo Roasters. Yeah.
People like them. The coffee was really good, so I'm like, hey, I need these beans. Also, you have
my dog on your logo, so I'm going to do that too. Yeah, absolutely. They're really into the dog part.
And if you go to, let's see, it's a hugo.com coffee, I believe. Yeah, Hugo.comfe will get you
what Tom's talking about. And people here, I've not tried it or had it, but people
hear rave about it. It might be, I'm not even a coffee. I don't really like it. So maybe this
would change my mind. I don't know. Kim, Kim likes coffee. She does. She and she has said before that
she likes these guys. So here's what's cool, though. They, um, this coffee, they give $2.50 back
for everything purchased to benefit rescue organizations. Right. For dogs and stuff. So it's a good
cause, good coffee, good times. Anyway. Now I have another reason to come to Salt Lake City.
Yeah, yeah, you got that one and then the beautiful airport.
I can't really think of what a third one would be.
Kim.
Oh, yeah, Kim, and then after that.
So we could get coffee.
After that, I can't think of anything.
It's weird.
Well, anyway.
Oh, stop it.
So Apple bought a game studio.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
They did.
Oh, cool.
Pretty wild.
Yeah.
It's a two-person game studio.
So it's not like, when you say Apple bought a game studio, you're like, oh, do they, something like Blizzard?
Right.
Yeah.
No, it's the two folks behind sneaky Sasquatch, which is a pretty popular Apple Arcade game.
These two folks, this isn't their first game.
They've made several fairly popular Apple arcade games, although Sasquatch is probably their most popular one.
Apple says it's a unique situation.
They're trying to make it sound like, we're not going to, you know, become Microsoft and just go on a tear and buy a bunch of studios.
This was a situation where these two developers seem uniquely good at making.
making Apple arcade games, so we wanted to bring them at house.
But it does go along with a Bloomberg article from your friend and mine, Mark German, say, and his sources say Apple's about to replace Game Center with a full-on video game app.
Yeah.
Oh.
This is the rumor.
Okay.
Yeah, I think it's time for a refresh.
I mean, I wouldn't even call it a refresh.
I kind of hope they barely done anything to that since it started in, what, 2009 or something?
Oh, I know, right?
It's been around forever.
Do we think this is something happening or getting announced at the WWDC in a couple weeks?
It feels like that the kind of thing that they would announce that for sure.
Yeah. I think that Apple Arcade has been kind of okay for them.
It hasn't been a massive service bump or anything, but it's been a nice little add-on when you buy something like,
you get free three months of this or, you know, it's kind of like this little throwaway idea that isn't too expensive.
It hasn't been so bad.
But it hasn't been like gangbusters for them.
Well, I'll tell you where I am with Apple Arcade.
I get Apple One because it made sense that I, with iCloud and, uh, Apple music and
something else that I was like, yeah, there was storage.
Well, for me it wasn't fitness, but there was something else where I'm like, oh, I might
as well get Apple one. And then that gave me the, all the other stuff, right? And so I'm like,
ooh, Apple, I have Apple Arcade now. Cool. Uh, it's hard to use. It's like, I want to go to
the arcade. And it's like, well, you go into this section of the.
the app store, but if you're not careful, you'll just wander out into the rest of the app store.
And, oh, Game Center, that's a whole separate thing. That's over there. And so I think it's smart
to bring it all into one app, which is what it sounds like they're doing, according to German.
They're going to have all the Game Center stuff in there. It's going to be a game launcher.
It's going to be a cross-platform. If you're on the Mac, supposedly it'll be able to launch you
into your third-party games as well, not just the stuff that's from the app store. So I feel like
that is a better way to get me to use arcade. When, when
I'm sitting here like, oh, I'd like to use arcade.
And it's like, I have to work to use it.
You know, I have to think about it or know what I want versus being able to just kind
of wander in and look around.
Yeah.
My take with Apple Arcade is it's the first, when I'm looking for something new to play,
I start there because I know I'm not going to get ads or micro transactions or things
like that.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
And usually the, you know, the top charts are like, oh, I've never played this.
I've heard about it.
Great, I'll download that.
But I have some really fun games on there.
Yeah.
The idea of having it be a little bit more central
unto itself and not scattered amongst everything else,
I think makes a bunch of sense.
But I also could see why they didn't do that to start with
because I think there was maybe some confusion
or could have been confusion on the other side.
Because at the time, it was like,
well, where do you get your games?
Well, you just go here and search and you just get a bunch of games.
Yeah, that was the pattern.
Yeah.
So I think this is probably the right move.
It's like they were a baby,
and they were just taking a few.
steps.
Yeah.
And also, to Brian's point, I think it'd be good for them for a newer, like a standalone
app to really focus in on the hardcore, I don't mean hardcore gamers because I don't
really think there's such a thing on phones, but focus in on the hardcore notion that
these don't have ads, these don't have micro-transactions, these are some of the kind
of games you like in those areas, like, you know, there are plenty of gotcha style games that
want to bleed your wallet dry, but over here we have some that are those kinds of games that
give you those same vibes, but we're not going to nickel and dime. You're just going to pay your
monthly fee. I think that would really benefit them in the long run to just make the definition
better of what that is. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see what they do.
Watch them make this video game app and it'll be exactly like the app store where it's hard to
figure out which is our game. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there is that whole issue of like it's another
icon on your screen
and now okay now what
it does make sense though when you've got
music and TV
to have games like it just
kind of seems to fit yeah well
we'll see what they do and like you said
I assume you're both probably right they'll
they'll make some talk about it at the event
so we'll see what happens
yeah this very much feels like
the kind of thing that would
be on the docket in that three hour
long announcement that they'll do
new product
coming from their game center.
Now, here's Craig Federique.
Yeah, and he'll run through the place and, you know, jump over a chair.
It'll be great.
Yeah, and like, that's the game.
Yeah.
I also kind of hope, I secretly hope that they don't keep calling it Game Center,
even though I don't think that's a bad name, but I think it kind of needs a reboot.
Oh, I'm guessing they're going to call it Apple Games.
Yeah, Apple Games, or keep the arcade game and get rid of Game Center altogether.
Just don't, it doesn't have any cachet.
doesn't have any. Yeah, I think Game Center's probably gone.
Yeah, Game Center, right. Because, well, see,
the other thing that Game Center does is it saves your scores between devices.
So they need to call that something else.
Oh, they'll still do it. I just think it'll be in this.
That'll be part of this. According to German, that's just going to get integrated into the new app.
Yeah, there's no reason to have like a separate thing anymore.
And that thing was Advented at a time when like, you know, what was Microsoft's thing called?
Shoot. Anyway, it was basically the overlay of everything.
thing and that's what game center tried to do but right anyway we'll see what they do exciting stuff
happening on mobile tom is there anything else going on you'd like to mention before the big show today
oh yes um i'm headed to austin texas at the end of june weekend of june 27th um brian brushwood
myself jostom robert young Andrew heaton matt donnelly uh we're all getting together and
uh Brian is is going to have us all share our experiences as independent
creators with folks who want to learn about being an independent creator. Whether it's a side hustle
or you're like going fully independent, if you're like, man, I really need some help. I really
need some tips. I really wanted work to come up with a plan for that. That's what that's about.
So I know a lot of you have already heard about this and a few of you have signed up. I know
Craig and Andy are going to be there. So if you are interested in this, go check it out at best news ever.
com. That is where you can find out the information for it. I think there's like four
slots left. Uh, so you might want to jump on that, especially if you're a member of a four
piece band who would like to all sign up. There you go. Is this going to be, uh, live
stream, did you say? I can't remember if you said that. I think they are going to record some
stuff, but no, this is really only for the attendees. So you, you, you want to, you have to be
able to get there, you know, and make it, which I know not everybody's going to be able to do this
time. But if this one goes, well, the Brian plans to do more of them.
There you have it. Tom Merritt, I'll see you today at 2 p.m. Mountain Time.
Thanks, man.
For the Daily Tech News Show Live. It's going to be a good one today. I've got a cool topic.
You guys want to talk about whether gamers are happy about AI or not?
Yeah.
Really, they aren't.
I don't think they aren't.
What a surprise.
Yeah, they might be the one industry that can't get away with just jamming it into everything.
And we'll talk about why that might be.
Anyway, all that and more coming up.
Tom Merritt, thank you so much.
Ace Detect everywhere you want to find them.
We'll see you next time.
Bye. He decided not to say bye at the end.
Yeah, I know. Or just the delay. The lag made it so he said it and we didn't hear it.
I don't think so.
The lack of lag, I mean. We got him out so quickly that he didn't say anything.
Sure. Okay. We got to get the people in here, the other people.
Yes. By the way, the other people will just be the person.
Randy got called into a meeting.
Oh. All right.
So I can do two if you want me to do two. I've got two prepared.
It's fine with me.
That would give us four total because Nicole's doing two as well.
I was going to say, if you had something ready to go in the chamber, then I could...
I do have something, but if you have something more ready than me, I'm always willing to step aside.
So if you've got something, let's do it.
All right, let me pull Nicole in.
We're going to give her her link.
And again, meant to do that before while I was talking to Tom.
I'll get used to doing that.
Workflow changes.
Sometimes they mess you up.
Oh, do you have a clip for the other one?
I guess that'll go on the thing.
Oh, I can find one, sure.
Although, yeah.
I have one prepped for mine if you'd rather me to do it.
If you have a clip prep for yours, then, yeah, just let me know what it is and I'll, and I'll, yeah, you can put it in chat or I can just figure it out and type it into, get it into a quicktm.s.
I'll stick it in there right now.
We're going to make life easy.
Let's see.
Cool.
And my other recommendation is one I've already talked about on the show, which is the devil's plan season two, which if, if no other reason,
And if there's no other reason to watch this thing, and they're really, you know, the people are nice.
They feel bad when they, I don't even want to say screw somebody over, but when they do something that results in another player's elimination, even very inadvertently, they feel bad.
And they feel really bad.
This is a Korean competition.
but what's really cool about this
are the games themselves
the really clever
did you put it
oh right there okay in our chat
the really clever games that they have to play
which are not like your endurance competitions
like you see on
on other shows it's more like actual
board games that are really really cool
that's awesome does it give you inspiration
like some cool new ideas
not necessarily for games for
like Taskmaster
or Taskaville or for Frank Pence
All-Stars, but it gives me ideas for
for actual
you know
derivatives of these or
it gives me ideas for board games that would not be
a rip-off that it would be like
oh yeah, there's like that's it that influences
this idea of this other game that I can put together.
Yeah, that's great. I know that sort of stuff
lands on you different than the rest of us. I really like it.
Yeah, and I really like the fact that it's
this is a great time killer until Nicole gets on.
But it's cool watching these really brilliant Mensa people and, you know, PhD, who also happen to be YouTubers or also happen to be members of K-pop groups or whatever.
Justin Lim, who is in Beef, is a contestant as well.
Oh, I didn't know that.
That's great.
That's great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a really good show.
And if you don't mind the subtitles, I recommend the subtitles, but I hear the dub is also really good.
All right.
Very nice.
Yeah.
All right.
Nicole has been, I've texted her, DM'd her, and put it in our group DM.
So she has had all three.
She's had a three-way.
She'll find it.
Oh, geez.
She's had a three-way of data information today.
And if that's not enough to get in here, I don't know what else is.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you can't get three links and not click one of them.
Exactly.
Then our chances of getting her seem very low.
And Monica, this is, you know, this happens this first time because we're dealing with new technology for folks.
But keep in mind, this is not going to be an every week thing.
No, it's easy.
This new thing really changes the dynamic of waiting for people.
It's like, well, it does today, yes, and did Monday or Tuesday.
Yeah, but we have the same problem with Discord.
It's never easy.
Yep, exactly.
Nicole, hi, hi, you there?
Am I here?
You are here?
Hi.
You hear you.
How are you?
How do I found?
You sound great.
You sound great.
Oh, okay.
You sound fantastic.
I got my headphones on.
Yeah.
Nice.
Are you out somewhere?
Are you at home?
Yeah.
I'm at home.
You're at home.
Okay.
That was such a pregnant pause.
I was worried.
Exactly.
We thought, oh my gosh.
What's going on?
That was me going, do I say I'm in hell or do I say him in home?
Oh.
Oh, jeez.
Well, I hope you're not in hell.
The demons.
Keep the demons at bay.
It's just, it's just, I want to go to work.
Yeah.
And I don't, I, we're, when school ends, parents will get this.
There's like this weird limbo of time between when school ends and when the camps start.
Yeah, sure.
So, like, hello.
That wasn't me.
No, not me either.
do it. Yeah, wasn't me either. I think she hit mute on her face.
We still don't hear you, Nicole. I don't know if you hear us, but...
Oh, there she is. Hi.
Oh, weird. So my screensaver went on, and it killed the connection.
Oh, I can't have that. What? Your screen saver's a quick one. Holy crap.
Oh. Well, because... Do you really need to save your screen these days?
Well, because it was... So I had it set for five minutes.
Yeah. And I guess I just need to keep tapping.
my screen so it doesn't go into that mode
what do you have you wait it's set for five
minutes but it's but it's no I
it's set for one minute
because my battery my battery life was
like after this last Apple update
I wasn't even to get
until 5 o'clock and I was
dead damn
so I had to turn off like
Syrian intelligence and like
I went through this whole thing
how old is it your phone
a 15
I think I have a 15 pro
oh it shouldn't be it shouldn't be running that but you may have a battery might be taking a dump who knows but yeah
I don't know but but that's why I said it oh I see it's funny because I'm looking at this new system
it will peak red that means I'm too loud right you're no you're totally fine don't don't stress because
I control it on this end so you're all good yeah yeah so I could so I could scream mark and
yeah yeah let it rip control the vertical and the horizontal so he's not here
so I can't stay far.
Mark's not here, man.
Well, awesome.
Let's get to some recommendals.
I've got a little thing I forgot to play.
Well, what do you recommend?
Not that it matters that much,
but we are going to play the music anyway
and talk about things we think are cool on streaming services
and recommend them to you find people at home.
Randy's out last minute because of a meeting,
but you have the three of us
and a total of four recommendals,
which is kind of fun.
It's like all four of us right here, exactly.
We're going to do as tradition dictates
and start with Brian.
Brian, we've got a clip here.
What do you want to say about it?
This is a film, and this scene features somebody trying to get somebody else to eat some pie.
Oh, goodness, here we go.
I can't.
I can't.
I'm sorry.
I just can't have any pie.
What do you mean?
You can't?
Okay.
I have a genetic disorder.
Oh.
It's called the SEPA, congenital insensitivity to pain with anhydrosis.
It affects my nervous system.
And it basically makes it so I can't feel pain or hot or cold.
And that's why I can't have the pie or any solid food, really,
because unknowingly, I could.
bite my tongue off.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
You're a superhero?
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
I have the power to step on a nail and not know until my shoe fills up with blood.
Right.
Yeah.
Didn't think about that.
True story, by the way.
We were at the aquarium.
My mom fanned.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Sounds like Jack Quaid to me.
What's going on there?
It is Jack Quaid talking to Amber Midthunder.
about his inability to feel pain.
A real thing, by the way.
Congenal insensitivity of pain and congenital analgesia is actually a real thing.
So not just made up for this movie called Novakane.
Jack Quaid, as you heard, Amber Midthunder, Ray Nicholson, Betty Gabriel, Matt Walsh, Jacob Balaton.
You know the first name I said there.
Oh, Jack Quaid.
That is Quaid's son.
That's exactly right.
From the boys.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, he's great.
I just watched a companion, and he was fantastic.
Oh, he was great, and what a dick he was in that.
Oh, my gosh.
Amber Midthunder, you'll know from Prey, from the Predator prequel.
She's awesome in that.
She is great.
Yeah, she's been in a bunch of different things, and she's always really, really good.
Love the name.
She's got kind of an Olivia Rodrigo kind of thing.
Oh, for sure.
And she's got this, that name is so badass, dude.
Amber Midthunder, yeah.
She's part of the Sioux Tribe, I think, is what I saw.
I think it's Sue.
Yeah, she's great.
Anyway, so yeah, you got this guy, Nathan Cain, works at a bank, can't feel pain.
I'm not going to rhyme the whole time, by the way.
You don't want to rhyme the whole time?
It was accidentally, I guess that would be the last one right there.
And very early in the film, the bank gets robbed, and Amber Midthunder's character gets taken away,
and he's got to go and save her.
And so that is what the crux of the...
film is, is his, uh, using his, uh, abilities, his superpower, his superpower. And not that he's
trained or anything. So it's kind of accidental stuff, um, to, uh, to go and rescue, uh,
Amber Mid Thunder. But this is, this is great. This is such a fun movie. Now, I want to warn you,
it is, there's a lot of body horror in this thing because you've got a character that doesn't
feel the body horror that, that, that he's experiencing. Very gory, very, um, violent.
And along the lines, I'd say if there was another recent movie.
Oh, yeah, right.
That guy you just pulled up, Jacob Ballaton.
That's Peter Parker's buddy from the Spider-Man movies.
I was going to say, when I looked at the image you looked familiar,
and then I saw him smile in these photos, and I'm like, oh, yeah, Peter Parker's foot.
Very different without hair, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, there he is hanging out with them for some shoot.
Anyway, that's cool.
But very similar, like the first movie that came to mind with this was nobody that,
The movie with Bob Odenkirk from last year, the year before that.
Oh, not Mr. Nobody.
No.
Because that's, that is a great, that's a great movie.
But nobody.
Plain old nobody, which has a sequel coming out this year.
Better Call Saul guy.
Yes, better call Sal.
Yeah, better call Sal.
You guys know the Better Call Sal show that was a huge hit?
Love the, love the Better Call Sal.
you know breaking poorly yes such a great yeah by the way that was that was
2021 if you can believe it oh my gosh that long ago I would have said 2023 I would have
too I would have said like you said last year or so and I thought yeah of course it was like early
2024 no it's old as shit well whatever 2020 and on is all a messed up in my head it's all a blur
yeah exactly um so uh what else let's see uh not not for the kids but
you know for everybody else especially if it's not the level of violence of like a um a john wick
it's probably like a six on the wick scale or a seven on the wick scale but oh my gosh we got a wick scale
yeah i can i can i can i confess confess something yeah sure i've never seen any of the john wick
oh we need to fix that i've only seen two of them so i know i know i've been wanting i need
now that I'm starting to be able to tolerate watching screams again, as per my recommendations
week, I'm starting to get back into feeling my normal self.
And I'm like, oh, I want to watch that.
Oh, I want to watch that.
I haven't felt that.
I haven't felt that in a long time.
No, that's great.
Look, a Wic binge would be so much fun.
That would love to do that.
The problem with me with WIC is that I like the movies, Tina D.
doesn't. Um, so she, she, she's not big on that level of violence. She's okay with a seven on
the wick scale, but not with a full wick for a full 100% wick. Yeah, full 10 wick. She's already
told me that I'm seeing ballerina on my own if I want to see. Oh, that's right. And it's
getting good reviews too. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to, so I'm going to catch up with all the wicks
I've missed before that movie comes out. And then, uh, I love, I think it needs, we have a
permanent wick scale. Yeah. Yeah. We'll use it. We'll use it for sure. We need a gorse. We need a
Gore scale, too, but we'll figure that one out.
Yes, my Monica's ears just perked up.
Oh, Monica could totally help us on that one.
Hell yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
The gore scale.
It was a gore scale.
This is probably an eight on the body horse scale, on the saw scale.
It would be the difference on this one, too.
Anyway, it's really good.
It's on Paramount Plus, or I'm sorry, Paramount Positive.
And highly worth checking out.
We both, this was good enough for Tina.
She enjoyed it.
There was one scene where she did have to look away.
But that's about it.
This director we know from, let's see, significant other.
Dan Berger, Robert Olson.
There's a two, it's listed as two directors.
Yeah.
Stakeland, villain, significant other body, none of which I'm familiar with.
Yeah, I don't know any of these.
It feels like Quaid likes gory movies because if you've never seen the boys,
yeah that that very first scene with him oh for sure and even even um companion has has a fair amount not a ton of
gore in it but it's got some yeah and his dad his dad was in the substance with his gross mouth noises
it's like the only thing you'll ever be able to think of inner the the the his inner space work
so far out of purview now because of the close-up shrimp chewing scene and uh in uh in uh substance
So great, but Jack Quaid has this great ability to straddle nerd and shocking, and I think, I think he's got a, he has an amazing, he's a good-looking dude, too. He's also a huge nerd, and I love how nerdy is. I follow him on Instagram, and it's always like D&D shit and video games.
Oh, that's cool. The whole reason his dad did ended up doing the G.I. Joe movie was because a young Jack Quaid was, it was his favorite thing. He's like, Dad, you have to do it.
That's right. Yeah. We talked about that. I love that stuff. It's great. He's super.
cool. He even plays a video game in this, in this
movie, and I don't recognize
it, but I'm sure somebody out
there will, if it's not something that was
created specifically for the
for the film. But it's, again,
it's called Novocaine. It's on Paramount
Positive, and it is
worth watching. Why do you keep calling it Paramount
Positive? It's a good joke. That's why.
Oh, oh, it's a joke. We got Disney Positive.
We've got, we got, Pacock.
We got Peacock. Yeah. We got
free cock. I don't have it anymore, but we used
to have it. We have a, we have a
Gild positive.
What?
A guild,
Gild positive?
The Wood Whisper, yeah.
Sure.
See, there you go.
Yeah.
See?
The Wood Whisperer Guild positive.
We should figure out a way.
We need to figure out a way.
All right.
Well, well,
done.
I'm going to do mine next so that we can roll
Nicole's directly into each other.
And that'll just make sense spacewise.
So I'm going to start with this clip.
This is a clip from an old-ass movie that I ended up really enjoying.
And I'm a little surprised I liked it so much because I thought,
thought this was going to kind of suck. I'll be honest. I started it thinking, this is old. It's
probably not my jam. I also don't like comedy set in this world. I ended up really liking it.
So, anyway, here's the clip.
Ain't bad enough that I had to be dragged out of that saloon in front of all my friends.
Oh, I doubt if you have all that many friends that you need to be upset, Joe.
But then they have to sit there and that lousy cell.
I was going to skin me alive for getting caught.
He won't mind you murdering that man. He just doesn't like for you to get caught, on
I didn't murder anybody.
That was self-defense.
It was him or me.
Well, we let the judge decide that.
We do have a judge around here, don't we?
We never needed one until you come to town and ruin everything.
Spoiled all your fun, huh, Joe?
You say that again.
Root everything.
Anyway, this is the film Support Your Local Sheriff,
and it is from 1969, literally the year I was born.
So I've zero connection to this other than that's the year it came out.
I'm a big James Garner fan.
And I love, you know, Maverick, the old Maverick show.
I even liked the movie and he made, you know, an appearance in there as Maverick's dad.
I loved the show, The Rockford Files, this sort of stuff.
So I was just kind of in this mood of like, what's going on on Tooby?
I'm going to look around on Tooby, see what's going on.
So I find this thing, which is described as a Old West comedy, which can be tenuous.
It cannot, it doesn't.
always provide what you want does it have a cowboy that just takes a kid and chucks him into the lake
well that comes with that one i can deal with although what is that what is that from that's john wayne
right yeah that's john way yeah what was that movie i don't know what movie that was i watched it
with my dad and i was just i sat there just in utter amazement it wasn't watched the scene it wasn't
true it wasn't true grit it was so nice it's even older and then he looks at the woman and she's like
well i don't know how to swim either and she starts running away
from home.
I'm sure someone in a chat note.
Somebody will say it.
I can't see the chat because as soon as I leave the speed, it goes walking.
You lose the audio again.
Yeah.
Yeah, it goes like this.
It goes, uh, uh, uh, uh.
Oh, it makes you stay on the page.
Interesting.
Yeah, if you're on your phone, I guess that could be tricky.
Well, anyway, the, this thing is, uh, is very good.
It, like, made me laugh.
I found it charming.
I found it, like, entertaining.
I was never bored in it.
What was it called?
Sorry.
Support your local sheriff.
Yeah, support your local sheriff.
Now, technically, there were two of these.
There were support your local sheriff.
And then years later, it was support your local gunslinger.
I watched both of these to kind of compare the two.
And I don't think the gunslinger one's very good.
I don't think it's very good.
So avoid that one, even though it's got a lot of the same people in it.
I think that this one, directed by Burke Kennedy, is quite good.
It is, sorry, Brian's typing is throwing me over.
I know.
You're killing me, Brian.
You're killing me, Brian.
Anyway, James Garner, Joan Hackett, Walter Brennan.
These are all names you know if you know old movies.
But the big surprise for me was that Harry Morgan's in this.
So, you know, Colonel Potter, basically.
He's kind of Colonel Pottery in this time.
I don't know. I don't know who that is.
You know who he is.
Colonel Potter, but MASH.
No?
Not MASH?
Never saw any MASH?
I've watched a lot of MASH.
I have a hard time putting names that I'm not familiar with, with faces.
Yeah.
So like, show me his face.
Then I go, oh, yes, I know who that is.
Yeah, I'll bet if I put a picture of Harry Morden in there, you'd go.
Oh, of course, that's Harry Morden.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
he's great in it he plays the town mayor and he's very very funny uh the voice you heard
along with james garner earlier was uh an outlaw named bruce um jo dambi played by bruce durn a very
young dude not recognize you think we'd recognize his voice because bruce durn has a very
recognizable voice oh big time and he's very very young in this he's probably in his 20s or
something um so that's a little bit weird anyway i really had a great time with that was so surprised that this was
so much fun to watch. The only real
beef I have was the music sucked.
And commercials?
Well, I watched it on my browser
and I have that all blocks, so I don't ever get them.
Oh, you lucky. Oh, I got to do that.
Yeah, do that. It's easy. It's just blocks them.
I run it on, I think Brave is where I watched it.
And the Brave browser automatically blocks
ads, so it was pretty awesome.
I've never heard of this browser.
It makes Tooby like a billion times better
than it should be.
And then we're going to put Toby out of
business that's right we're never going to hear one of your ads ever to be but anyway they uh uh i found
some see i actually captured some of that music let me see if i can find it real quick uh where did i put
did anybody guess the john wayne movie in the chat nobody's uh listed it yeah it looks like you guys
let's see i'm trying to see if you've done it nope i don't see it i don't know what that is it felt
and i did a search and i couldn't find it but um yeah i don't know what that is but anyway i've seen
the Giff a million times. I never know what it's from.
Just like, hey, he's throwing a kid in the water.
That seems not nice.
Anyway, go see it. It's on Tooby now.
So is the sequel if you're into that sort of thing.
It's not that the sequel's bad. I just don't think it's as good.
There we go. It's Hondo.
Oh, Hondo.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Oh, Rufus says he did. Oh, there it is right there.
Honda is the genre movie. I think that's unclear now, too.
Never seen Hondo.
Watch Hondo. Just for that scene alone.
I might watch Hondo. I might do it.
And I wouldn't be shocked.
I wouldn't be shocked if they had it over on Tube because Tubey's weird, man.
They got so much stuff.
Yeah.
Anyway, support your local sheriff.
Good time, fun time.
Great for everybody.
It's old as hell.
But I really enjoyed it.
So there you go.
All right.
Nicole, you've got two lined up here.
Let's start with the...
Which one do you want to do first?
Honestly, I would even have a third.
I was on a roll.
Wow.
I was all about the documentaries this week.
So let's start with, I don't care, pick one.
All right, let's start with, um, let's start with this one.
I felt like I could just give this beautiful, incredible gift to kids.
Peewee's Playhouse, Peewee speaking, who's this?
Hi, Peeley!
Hi, kids.
Guess where?
What?
I'm having a party, and you're invited.
They can just jump into the TV.
and jump into a world that was, like, really full of beauty and fun.
Yeah.
Hi, Elvis.
Hi, Sher.
Hi, Sue.
We've got a new member.
I think it was almost like I thought I was inside of a cartoon or something.
I don't know why they thought I was an eccentric or would fit in at all.
Yeah, you know, a little tiny Paul Giomati.
I can't wait to watch this.
I meant to watch it before today, but.
I was hoping to as well.
and I just didn't get a chance to.
Did you recognize that voice?
Yeah, that's what's her,
she just left my brain.
She does poker face.
Oh, it's, yeah, Natasha Leon.
Natasha Leon.
And she's, like, decked out in, like, weird-ass sunglasses.
And she's like, I don't know why they thought I would fit in.
I have a feeling.
Pee-wee shaped a lot of her, too.
So she's just a tiny little girl as one of the three kids that go into Pee Wee's Playhouse.
So when Pee We's Playhouse came out, I think, because I remember vividly, I think I was in fourth grade.
And we were waiting for the bus and we're all talking about Pee Wee's Playhouse.
Have you seen Pee We's Playhouse? Have you seen Pee We's Playhouse?
it is the best show it's the best show it's the best show and it was the buzz of the school
and oh why does it say repair is on don't ignore that it's just the way I control stuff you're good
okay okay so I'm sorry I thought I was doing something wrong no you're good so um I have been
waiting for this documentary for months they have been teasing about it and I was like when it
comes out, I'm putting in on my calendar
the day it comes out and I'm
watching it on the day it comes out.
It is a two-part documentary.
They basically are two
I wanted it at like an hour and
40 minutes each.
And I probably
had at least, because it was
Mark was off riding bikes
in Columbia
and it was me and the kids
and the dogs.
And I probably stopped and
started this documentary at least 40 times.
Jeez. That's a lot. Because
because I kept getting interrupted,
Mom, I need food. Mom, I need help.
Mom, I need this. Dogs want to go out.
Like, I was like, can I just watch my documentary
and cry in peace? And this is, and this is, I've asked,
I've asked a few friends, have you watched the documentary?
They were like, I don't want to cry. I go,
it's worth it you really need to she'd probably closed her screen again screen
killed by screensaver again yeah you got a screen saver you got to tap that i'd tap that
tap that tap that phone tap that shit uh she's probably figuring it out she's wrestling with it she
will now tap her phone and she will be back nope so far nothing so far
Oh, a little bit of nothing.
Nicole, do we lose you?
She maybe got a call.
That'll happen.
Oh, it could be too.
Yeah, if you get a call, a little interrupt.
Could have cheek muted or who knows what.
Yeah, that'll happen with anything we use.
So if that happens, she's talking now to a pediatrician and they're saying,
your daughter's fine.
Let us know.
Or it's Mark.
Mark saying, hey, there's a bunch of wood.
I got to have whispered.
And I forgot before I left.
I can, you know, I'll talk really quickly about something else.
We had to finish watching the Handmaid's time.
tale as well.
The final season, final episode premiered Monday night.
So I had to, uh, uh, we had to watch that to wrap everything up.
And so, I've been trying really hard not to be, not that you'll spoil it, but I've been,
I've been avoiding stuff online because I have a feeling that thing that will either end.
There's no way it ends happy.
Right.
It's handmade's tale.
I'm not going to spoil it.
You've just said yourself that you'd, you'd hate it for somebody spoil it.
So I'm certainly not going to be the person who does that.
Yeah.
Shit.
Oh, hi.
I'm just talking my ass off.
Oh, no.
And I don't even know where the stupid phone.
I don't like the system, by the way.
It's easy.
You just have to keep your phone from going to sleep.
Or talk on a regular microphone like a normal person.
I don't have a normal microphone.
You got to find your laptop.
Yeah, where's your laptop?
Wait, what you're missing your laptop?
That doesn't seem good.
It's around here somewhere.
I would hope so. Damn.
I just, I'm sorry.
Sorry, find my devices.
I'm so sorry.
What was the last thing I said?
You said, you think he shaped all these kids
into being big time actors
or they were a big part of their childhood
because they're all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you get to see kind of his growth
from his childhood to the groundlings
and Elvira was one of the original.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Cassandra Peterson and Paul Rubens were big-time collaborators early on.
I think she, yeah, well, yeah, we got him on the playhouse, but I think we got Cassandra
Peterson in that weird one-off special, one-hour special that he did with the mirror, the mirror
shoes where he was licking up Ms. Yvonne's dress with mirrors on his shoes.
I don't remember that at all.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
She was also in the first movie.
She was in the bar.
She was like, let me have him first.
And then I see, we let him go.
That was Elvira without her Elvira makeup.
So basically what I said was the first part of it, I'm going to keep tapping my phone.
Okay.
But the first part of it is his growth from being a kid to understanding himself as a person.
and he was an openly gay man initially
and was in a very committed relationship
and then his father was basically
are you going to try to do something with your career
because you're just playing house right now
and that ended that relationship
and he went back in the closet when he moved to LA
and joined the groundlings
and started playing with these different types
of character art
and peewee just kind of stuck and he became he he he sacrificed himself as a person as
Paul Rubens to be peewee for people and it is a story of that it's it's sad I cry
it is what it is I cry oh yeah for sure it seems like it's going to have so much stuff like
that also didn't he record a bunch of stuff for this documentary right before his death or
something like oh wow so a day before or something so crazy did i did you hear who the the director
is his name is matt wolf yeah and they were at odds the entire time because paul rubens it has
been in so much control of his own career that it's very very hard for him to it was really hard
for him to do the documentary and and the doc the matt wolf didn't even know he
he was dying.
Oh, yeah.
I heard something about that,
how he wasn't telling anyone that he was.
No one knew.
No one knew.
Crazy.
Well, certain people knew, of course.
And I just encourage you to,
if Peewee or Paul Rubens,
whether it was through Buffy the Vampire Slayer
or Blow or any of those movies,
like he really.
Batman returns or which is the second one.
He was the penguin's father's, yeah.
So he, I'm just impressed with him.
I love him for Pee Wee's Playhouse.
I will always love him for Pee Wee's Playhouse.
And the stuff that was done to him to kind of try to discredit him,
I'll just say it pissed me off.
Did they get into the, they get into the whole nudie theater thing and that,
Yep. They go into that. They go into another more controversial one that happened in 2002.
He was a collector of him and Jeffrey. What's his name?
Well, see, you'll get the story, but I'll tell you this.
Jeffrey was looking to bring anybody he could down with him so he could get a lesser sense.
and peewee just had a just a museum full of old magazines and just kitchie kitchie stuff
stuff that once they went through it there were stuff that he had never even been open
he would probably like buy lots of stuff and it only came down to one magazine where it
was questionable the age of the person on the magazine
and he
he took
the lesser charge
because he just wanted it over
and that's what's really
crappy about that
so watch it
use your own
opinion but I think he was
he was done dirty in my opinion
even when I was a kid
and the thing came out about the movie theater
I was like I don't care
I want to watch Pee Wee's Playhouse
and they took it off the
I'm like, no.
They canceled the show around it.
You know, it's funny, you mentioned the whole thing where he became pee-wee, and that
was just it.
He felt like he had to be pee-wee forever.
You even referred to him as pee-wee in the context.
I must be really hard to take that costume off.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
And he goes through that, and he has a star on the Walk of Fame.
It's not Paul Rubens.
It's Pee-Wee Herman.
And so I hope from this day,
documentary they're because how you get a star on the walk of fame is you have to have you you have
you have a campaign of people that sign and petition uh for that artist uh to get a a star on
the hollywood walk of fame so i hope he paul rubens gets a star finally because he is he's one of my
favorite people and I shared when he passed away um mark paid him to do a cameo for me on
mother's day oh wow and it is almost 10 minutes long geez wow he he and I posted it on my
Instagram but I cut out the first part because he sings to me boys to men the mama song
And it's the best thing.
And I'm like, how long is this going to go?
I'm watching this.
And I'm just like, he just was a good, good person.
And, yeah, yeah, go to my Instagram, Nicole Spagg and look for the peevee video.
It's, it's, I think I cut two minutes out because I think he sings to me for about two minutes.
very uncomfortably and then he gets into um just he references he goes uh says something about
you know big butt he goes i know you know what i mean yeah sure he was uh i still think his spleen
and mystery men was one of my favorite things yeah that was great forgot about that too great role
and that felt like one that had come right around
the controversial time like it was like oh thank goodness he's not completely we didn't cancel
him as we would say today completely for being in a movie theater people wouldn't yeah he went on
MTV um right after the controversy yeah you guys hear any good jokes lately yeah like really like
kind of owned up to or at least played off of it wasn't it up to wasn't that on uh it was like an
award like the MTV music awards or something right yeah it was the MTV music awards yeah so again
just watched the documentary.
I think Matt Wolfe did an amazing job,
even though Paul Rubens was very,
very hesitant into doing the documentary.
I don't know if it means anything,
but he didn't get credit on IMDB in the director for the film.
There's no director's credit.
Oh, really?
I don't know if that means anything or not.
I don't know if it means that it's like an official falling out
and his name stripped from the thing or not,
but.
He's all over.
the documentary itself yeah i don't know why they did that if you just look at the normal summary
that he's there's no director list it just says who's starring well if he even said he's like of the
seven documentaries you've done i've liked one of them that's in the thing that's in the uh the
film it's kind of harsh wow but i don't know but here's the thing about paul rubens
and he does this throughout the whole documentary where he's
like, am I serious?
Oh, no, no, I'm serious.
Or am I? Or am I?
That fits his persona for sure.
It's such, it's just really cool to see
how him as an actor, and the people
around him that he affected,
it was kind of sad to see
someone like,
darn it.
Someone like darn it.
James Darnet
James Darnet
No, the S&L thing, the S&L thing
What's the
Captain Carl?
Oh,
Phil Hartman, Phil Hartman.
Oh, Phil Hartman.
Yeah, yeah, because they weren't groundlings together, right?
Yes, so it was kind of sad to see
Phil Hartman kind of throw him under the bus.
And there was a number of them that did.
Okay, wow.
There was a number of them that did.
And, I don't know.
Tim Burton in this thing?
Do we get Tim Burton?
Yes, we definitely do get Tim Burton.
Sweet.
And James Darnett in the same film.
And James Darnet.
A rare cameo appearance by James Darnet.
I know, he doesn't, you know, that guy, he keeps himself.
He doesn't.
And they talk about the failure of Big Top Peewee.
They talk about, did you ever watch the big, Peewee's Big Holiday on Netflix?
I have seen them all.
The more recent one, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
They talk about that.
They talk about Miss Yvonne.
They interview Miss Yvonne quite a bit.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
I love her.
She, I mean, that's another long-time collaborator of his.
What's, what's David Arquette doing on here?
Did he, was he a kid back then?
So, Buffy, the Vampire Slayer.
Oh, right.
I forgot he was in that.
Oh, no, you stabbed me.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Yeah.
Well, see, that's the character he was on, on what would,
doing the shadows that was him doing that again right wasn't that kind of the idea
was it that's great if it was okay that's brilliant he's only he's credited as a character
named paul but i think it's supposed to be that vampire it is and the idea was why paul ribbons
was an actual vampire or whatever yeah they brought in all the you know they brought in
vampires from true blood they brought vampires in from Leslie Snipes was there all that
on a video yeah that was amazing that was on my favorite episodes ever
So, Nicole, where's this?
This is streaming max?
Is that right?
HBO Max.
HBO Max.
Oh, yes, right.
It's a whole new service, HBO Max.
Yeah, have you heard of that one?
It's really familiar for some reason, but yeah, we're back to it.
Yeah, HBO Max.
Awesome.
You want me to play, yeah.
So you would give this a high, big, big, high watermark, a thumbs up for me.
Big, big, big, please watch.
Even if you think you're going to cry, it's okay.
They're there.
And watch it in 40 parts, 40 different sessions.
you'll get through the whole thing.
Eventually, eventually you'll get.
I like that they broke it up into two parts because, I mean, it's over three hours long.
Sure.
Sure.
Excellent.
But, yeah.
There you go.
All right.
Number two, here is another documentary, it turns out.
This is, and this is very, very short, like less than an hour.
Yeah, it's a very short documentary, but it seems really interesting.
Yeah, it sounds like a, I don't know, what are they, I guess those are featureettes, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess so.
Whatever a documentary novella?
I guess short documentary.
Those are the ones that get Oscar nominations in the documentary short subject category,
if it's less than an hour and a half.
Oh, there you go.
And I could see this getting a nomination.
Oh, cool.
Nomunation.
Nomunation.
Nomunation.
Here's your clip.
Let's check it out.
This environment, it's a jungle.
All the other guys don't even have a clue how we feel up here.
They call them sharps.
We're a little community within a big community.
Organized chaos is the easiest way to describe that room.
I let my demon out a few times in prison, and I'm not proud of it.
They may or may not have a date.
They may not be going home.
It's just hard to talk about.
Around here, anybody can get in trouble.
We're just trying to do better.
We all ain't perfect, but we're trying.
This sounds great.
Sounds prison-y.
Yeah.
It is very prisony.
In fact, it is a maximum security prison right here in Missouri.
They have, they have, Missouri is in the south.
I'm in Missouri.
Fair enough.
Southern Missouri, Missouri, sure, whatever.
That's exactly what happened.
What did you go south?
Like Springfield, it's Missouri.
If you're north, it's Missouri.
A bunch of Yankees up there.
So this is a documentary on Netflix called The Quilters, and it follows a group of guys in, like I said, a maximum security prison, and they have a special program where they make quilts for foster children and for autistic kids.
Oh, God.
Tapping that phone, tap that ass.
Now, you're good.
You did it right away.
You did it right away, so you're good.
I caught it.
You caught it the other time.
Yeah, you're totally fine.
So you caught that they're who they make this vote for.
Autistic kids and special needs and all that.
And not just special, but foster kids, kids without homes that are in situations where it's very unknown.
so it follows this group of men and again it's not very it's not really about the men per se it's about the program and what they gain from it um and like one of the wardens said you know you
you have lifers in here and you can't have any marks on your record or you get kicked out of the program yeah and the sharps are
if you're a quilter
and hey guess what I'm a quilter
so I was like this is really
kind of cool they make some
beautiful quilts
beautiful that was going to be my question
are the quilts not that it matters
or needs to be because the
point of it isn't necessarily to make
the world's best quilts but these are nice they're doing
like good quilts it's right
they're beautiful okay
that's cool that's cool and it's all
donated material
So that's they they have a guy who is basically in charge of knowing what kind of inventory they have.
Like and they try to like a girl kind of like one of the guys who's like I'm really into butterflies.
I love making butterfly quilts and so he had a young girl that had requested a quilt with butterflies in it.
So he was all about it.
And then you have another guy where the quilt was supposed to be like a tie-dye kind of hippie quilt.
And so he's into, and so some of the quilts, most of the quilts, amazing.
And you have one main guy that's kind of teaching them all.
And there's a new guy that comes in and he's learning and helping.
And it just gives them purpose.
And one of the guys have been said, when I'm here, I'm out.
like and and they talk about like what their
some of their crimes are and yeah do you have like hard hardcore like murderer type folks in there
it's a mac oh yeah it's a maximum secure like one of the guys like i took a life i deserve
to be here i wish though i had the emotional maturity that i have now then because i would
have made a totally different decision so um it's great it's it's like i said it's like 60 minutes
long um on netflix worth a watch especially if you are a crafter or quilter it's it's beautiful
to see grown men hard i mean they're hard men like fussing about a point in a quilt like i got
I've done this
I've done this before
it should be an overstitch
not an understitch
or you you sew it on
the wrong way and you have
to you have to
rip the scene
and I have done that
so many times where it's just like
I know what a pain in the ass
that is when you're watching these guys
like having to
you know rip a quilt apart
I'll bet September would really really like
this thing I don't see her in the chat but I'll bet
she's uh but she's in earlier
highly yeah so I just
wanted to recommend it
I could see this being
an Oscar nomination easy
that'd be great I definitely want to see it you said
Netflix right it's Netflix yeah
all right cool easy watch
there's no there's no there's no plus or max or anything on Netflix
no just uh no it's not positive
Netflix negative Netflix negative
negative negative
negative flicks about that
give them time
do something. Yeah, they'll be
sure, at some point in Netflix
Plus or something. I mean, they have their ad-free
thing, but I don't think they'd change the name. They just say
they don't pay for it. Maybe they're the smart ones. I don't know.
Well, awesome. These both sound great.
I love a good documentary and definitely going to watch
the Peewee one 100% and this other one. I didn't even know about it. I'll be
watching that too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.
Find all these at quicktms.
Brian's put them all up there for your perusal.
And Randy had a good one too, but we'll hold his for next
week.
Yeah.
Assuming he comes back to it, you never know.
Nicole, I hope you have a fantastic day and that you can watch things in one session instead
of 40.
40's a lot.
Just put a big bowl of food out for the kids like they're a dog.
Yeah, do that.
Good luck to you.
Lock the door.
All right.
That is it for two days show.
I had a couple emails.
I'm going to save them for tomorrow.
Okay.
Because we have gone very long today.
So watch for those.
We'll bring those in tomorrow.
So, Les, if you're out there listening in Cali Sky, I'm holding your email until tomorrow.
So don't stress.
That's right.
Regular stuff tomorrow, too.
Wendy, I believe.
Cool.
Your usual Thursday nonsense.
And who knows what else could happen?
You don't know.
I don't know.
Always surprises here on TMS.
You never know.
No, you never know.
What might happen.
Are you?
I might even slip in a well actually that came in because it's worth talking about, I don't want to wait a whole week and a half to do the well actually.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Is it a long?
Is it a long one?
We can do it now and swap it in.
It's a super short one you want it now?
Let's do it now.
What do we got?
Let's correct ourselves.
According to the actual owners and proprietors and founders of the coffee shop known as Dutch bros.
It is Dutch bros.
It is, non-debraviation for Dutch brothers.
There's no period at the end of bros.
So it was always intended to be Dutch bros.
I hate that.
I kind of do, too.
It makes you want to burn something.
Gosh, dang it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It feels like when.
the dictionary let supposedly in as a word just because enough people got it wrong.
That was a dark day, very dark day in human history.
It was. It absolutely was.
Oh, man.
So, yeah.
So it's Dutch bros and big things to the person that corrected me on that way you're breaking by the name of Bightor.
Bightor.
Bightor.
So, yes.
Are we going to let a he-man-ass sounding villain tell us what to do, Bightor?
Well, specifically, I mean, you know, as soon as,
As I saw that, I found the link of the video where Dutch bros reply to a news station with its,
it's pronounced Dutch bros, not Dutch brothers.
Apparently, every time we say, every time I say Dutch brothers, his daughter wants to punch the Bluetooth speaker.
It's the opposite for me.
I want to punch the other way.
With bros, I actually said, I'm going to keep saying Dutch brothers, but send me your address and I'll send you a report.
placement Bluetooth speaker.
That's the least we can do.
What a joke, man.
I have a quick recommendation.
I'm still going to say Super Smash Brothers.
You can't make me change that.
No, because that is correct the way we're doing it there.
And you all are wrong on that.
Just because Dutch bros decided to screw with it.
Right, exactly.
I'm going to go to a Dutch Brothers, excuse me, Dutch Bros.
Soon to get one of those sugar-free things you got because I want to try it.
Sure.
Yeah.
Make sure you go to the one on 110.
where it intersects with Mayfair dr just south of
south of Maine Ave yeah there you go find it yeah see you guys understand what we're
doing here right yeah yeah I'm pronouncing other other abbreviations like they're the real
word yeah do you guys live on a bolved or a bold that's what I should have used or a sir
bolded I got a recommendation to make all over TikTok if you're hanging out on there they
have these ads for this orange-looking thing that's supposed to keep dogs from barking.
Oh, okay.
It's kind of a...
What did you do, just shine it in their face?
You don't even...
Well, it does have a...
It looks like an Orelko on one end.
It does have a light, but that's just for light stuff.
It blinks, too, so it's like a hazard light.
But it also has a little beep sound for, like, I don't know what for.
But then on the top, there's the thing that gets to dogs.
And the Norelco side, you're right, it does.
Or it looks like the back of an iPhone, like the cameras.
Yeah, right, the three cameras, sure.
I guess they're...
It's almost exactly the same, actually.
It's funny.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway, this thing is so good.
It does exactly what they tell you would do,
which is shut your dogs up or anyone else's dogs.
If they're 60 feet away and they won't stop barking,
just tap this little...
I don't know if this thing will pick it up
and your dogs are all freak out or not,
but you just go...
Like that?
Oh, I hear that.
Yeah, just like a little...
Makes a little...
Like, I don't hear a high-pitched anything,
but I hear a little, like, grindy sound.
Yeah, right.
It sounds like a little, like, well,
The grinder, yeah.
Like a coffee grinder almost.
Anyway, this is probably making my dogs lose it right now and shut up because they go silent.
So twice during the show today, I hear them going, because there's like a siren or something.
Yeah, yeah.
And all I had to do was go, one little zap.
Then stop, stop, dead in their tracks.
Wow.
So anyway, big recommendation.
USBC charger on that thing, super easy.
It's like 12 bucks or something.
It's awesome.
I got it on Amazon, but I saw all these.
ads on TikTok. And I almost threw it. I almost threw it and broke it just now.
Be the second thing you've dropped during the show today.
I'm feeling very sloppy with the arms. I don't know why. Anyway, that's it for the show.
Thanks everybody for listening. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all your needs. There's one need yet
unrequired or unfulfilled and it is playing a song at the end of this episode.
Oh, I will fulfill that need right now. Jeff M. A.k.a. Mous divided in the chat said,
Ola, simpatico and Bueno. I've decided to request a song for my
45th birthday on the 27th.
This song is also a cover and one I've had on repeat for the last six months.
Even though I'm a white dude from Oregon, I have a fondness for Mexican culture.
And Coco is one of my favorite Disney movies.
When I heard this rendition of Remember Me by May Day Parade, I couldn't get enough of it.
Thanks so much for the show.
Brian, feel free to talk about this whole album because it's freaking great.
Newfound Glory singing Little Mermaid is something I never realized I needed.
Yeah, this is a Disney album that came out.
last year called a whole new sound.
And it's a bunch of, you know, as it sounds from my description, it's a cover album of Disney
songs.
A lot more modern stuff than we've had with previous, previous Disney cover album.
So you're going to get your, can you feel the love tonight and surface pressure,
you'll be in my heart, colors of the wind, as opposed to things like bibbidi-Bobbidi-boo and
a dream as a wish your heart makes.
and stuff like that.
Sure.
So more of your recent, let it go, things like that, go the distance.
But bands like Plain White T's and We the King and Kings and Magnolia Park, Simple Plan,
your emo, your modern punk, your pop punk groups.
Nice.
Anyway, the one that Jeff wanted to hear is, remember me, it's from Coco.
Here's May Day Parade.
Remember me, though I have to say goodbye, remember me, though I have to say goodbye, remember me.
Don't let it make you cry.
For even if I'm far away, I hold you in my heart.
I sing the secret song to you each night we are apart.
Remember me, though I have to travel far.
Remember me each time you hear a sad guitar.
Know that I'm with you the only way that I can be.
Until you're in my arms again
Remember me
Remember me
Don't let it make you
For even if I'm far away
Away I hold you in my heart
I sing a secret song to you each night we are apart
Remember me though I have to travel far remember me
Each time you hear a sad guitar
Know that I'm with you the only way that I can be
Until you're in my arms again
Remember me, remember me, you know, remember me, the only way that I can be the only way that I can be, until I'm with you, the only way that I can be the only way that I can be.
Until you're in my arms again, remember me.
Oh, looks like someone just got their ears caught in the audio cookie jar at frogpants.com.
I am a meat popsicle.