The Morning Stream - TMS 2836: Creaky Eating

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Raynor doesn't like beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees. I'm not looking for the final solution Adolf. Stiffy While Driving. Dead Squirrels in Buckets. We're not afraid to use the chicken. Multi-Directional Impaling. Macklemore's Stuff is At a The Thrift Shop Now. Snack-tanic Panick. Forensic Cheeto Analysis. Tricerati. With Great Responsibility Comes Great Chicken Use. Are there Italians in Italian Seasoning, 'cause I like really want to know. Cheetozard. Son Lookin' like a Dude. TB Karaoke with Amy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Stiffy while driving. Dead squirrels and buckets. We're not afraid to use the chicken. Multidirectional impaling Macklemore's stuff is at the thrift shop now Snactanic panic Forensic Cheeto analysis Triceratai

With great responsibility Comes great chicken use Are there Italians in Italian seasoning Because I like really wanted to know Chito Zard Sun looking like a dude TB karaoke with Amy and more On this episode of the Morning Stream

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Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for Tuesday, June 10th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hey. Hursling toward your ride for the MS people, y'arcdomo. Yeah, the, you know, if nothing else, the first part of the ride actually gave me a new path that I discovered from, did I disappear?

No, no, no, you're good. I'm just getting excited about a new path. Oh, good. It's exciting. Yeah, a new road I can take into a little town called White Ranch, Forest. farm, and it's west of the big state highway that actually has a decent, a really wide bike lane. I can take a little road off of that. Actually, it goes right by that giant spider that we talked about.

Oh, the multicolored spider thing. Yeah, the geodesic dome spider looking thing. Someone called us about it, and then you sent me an actual picture while you're riding past there, and I had a very different, I had a different spider in my head. I could probably find that real quick. As you say, we never did talk about that on the show that I did find the spider. It's right behind, so the guy that made that spider also made some really cool triceratops. Sorry. Yeah, what is it plural?

Triceratai. Oh, there it is. Triceptify is what they are. That sounds right. Tresuptify. It's perfect. Nailed it. Nobody lives in this, right?

It almost looks like a little dome, but it's not. I know. It kind of does look like it would be a little, a cute little mini house. But no, it's, um. There you go, chat. yeah look you think of that look at that climbing up the hill there and that's far from the road like that picture it makes it look like oh yeah you can walk right up to it no it's just the zoom on my phone and i'm thinking it's pvc pipe and like painted metal plates yeah it almost looks like

different kinds of of filament for a 3d printer almost like you're doing a multicolored print that's so weird here's the here's the broader shot that you sent me yeah that's the that's the view that's the view from my bike ride basically it's like and this is the spider right here so you can see see where it is in the background but then he's got all this stuff so you say there's triceratops somewhere around here yeah it's not in this uh in frame it's um further off to the right i didn't get it in in frame but i can grab shots of it next time i go by there that's cool uh and it's just a dude what makes uh sculptures eh it just makes yeah yeah there's some um god i remember when we passed it During the ride Saturday, there was some sign.

See, when we passed it on Saturday during the big training ride, I had already been riding for about 15 miles and dealing with the sunscreen in my eye. So it was already like hate in life. But this, if I do this as the first part of my ride, it's kind of a nice little easy uphill leading into a very pleasant downhill through some beautiful mountain, countryside. It's a gorgeous area. What's your temperature right now?

Is it hot, the cold? Where are we at? It's currently 70 degrees, which means by the time we wrap the show, and this will be the first thing I do as soon as we wrap, it'll probably be close to 75, maybe even 80, which it sucks. Maybe just 75.

It's supposed to get up to 80 as a high today. So, oh, I can actually, I can click the thing on my watch C, like it says, here's what the temperature will be at 11. Oh, yeah, that gives you all your times. 79, yeah, yeah. It's a little warm for a ride. It's a little warm. Yeah, it's not terrible, I guess. Not terrible. I'll make it.

I was looking at, so we have a high of 91 today in Las Vegas, Nevada. They're having a heat wave already, and they have a high. The low today is 82, meaning overnight, 82. High of 107. If you're on the strip, that's going to be closer to 100. Right. This is like August temperatures. I don't know what's going on in June. That's unbearable. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad this is not your concert weekend. No. Well, I hope it clears up by then. Also, I'm glad it's not Vegas weekend. Either a bunch of sweaty pigs. You think, you know, we're all pretty, you know, we're a clean bunch.

Yeah, yeah. We're not, you know. Our rooms come with showers. We use them. We're good about that. Yeah, we could stay in the air conditions comfort of a casino. It's fine. But yeah, I hope it clears up by then it's pretty hot right now yeah anyway uh it's good to have you all here we're gonna get right into it today and uh talk about some stuff i have a quick story this is actually from the other day so uh a day has gone by where i've got to think about it even more and i still have no answer oh great okay yeah i tried to suss this out but i couldn't figure it out so we were at dinner went and met uh kevin and noel for dinner k t dayden is in his lovely significant other for

dinner went to the tie spoon place i was talking about yesterday day, kind of a hole in the wall, but the best Thai food I've ever had in the valley. It's so good. And anyway, we're sitting there. And there's this bigger guy and a younger kid. When I say kid, he's probably, he looked about 18. But anyway, so it looked like maybe a dad and his son. And the son just looked like a dude, just a kid going, yeah, man, just screw the system,

or whatever. And the dad sitting over there was kind of a bigger guy, mustache, beard thing. just a big dude, and he's sitting there in the chair. And while we're talking, and this is well after we had, we sort of eaten and we're now just having conversation, and these people had come in since then. They got their food, and we're laughing, having a good time. And I kept hearing what I thought,

I thought I was hearing something from this table, but I wasn't sure. But eventually I figured it out. It's this dude, and between bites, he was doing this, he was going, like that oh geez really yeah so like imagine imagine like a mouthful and then a breathe in and then like that and neither and the kid across wasn't acting like anything was wrong with it and i kept kind of side-eyeing it and kevin i think noticed it i mentioned it later after he left because at first i thought he was shushing us or something oh sure yeah because we were being a little loud we were laughing and just having a good time.

So I was a little worried about that. But I don't think that was it because even when nobody was saying anything, the guy would go, like that. Even when they weren't eating food, just like he just has a medical issue that causes him? It must be.

I don't know. It just felt like it was like air trying to escape and then eventually it would escape and they wouldn't make any commentary about it and he was eaten fine. So I don't know what to make of that. I didn't say anything obviously. but yeah of course it was weird i don't know if kj day is in the chat i don't see him but oh yeah he is oh he is

yeah yeah we don't i mean i don't know if he's got a better theory than me at this point but i've i've been just thinking about him this guy because i don't know what to think about it and he seemed fine he seemed like he knew the staff he's a regular he's up and walking around and getting water coming back laughed at something the lady at the front said like he seemed like he was all fine yeah but just going hey it was weird man i'm man it definitely sounds like some sort of medical thing unless unless he had um it was definitely coming from him it wasn't coming from like a like a little oxygen condenser that he might have had next to him the the hose under his nose right no none of that he didn't have any apparatus that i could see i mean it could have been something hidden on his

person or something but i don't think so and they definitely wasn't coming from the kid who was sitting across from him. And it was also just kind of intermittently loud. Sometimes it was... But sometimes it was loud. It was like that chicken you had the other day on your microphone,

your rubber chicken. Oh yeah, which is now... You still have him there somewhere? He's behind me. I can grab him if you'd like that. Well, you know, if we get to the point where we have a break glass to use chicken emergency, we will...

Yes, yes, exactly. I don't want to overuse the chicken, but if there's an emergency that requires the use of the chicken, and I can get to it pretty quickly. We're not afraid to use the chicken. The point is that with great responsibility comes great chicken use. Exactly.

Something like that. With foul responsibility. Anyway, so there's that. Also, oh, this reminds me since we were with Kevin. Kevin and I coordinating yesterday about what we're going to do for Fantastic Four. We want to make it a little local meetup sort of deal. So if you're in the Salt Lake slash provo slash. Valley just somewhere here in Utah that's not you know not crazy far or whatever and you want to

go and enjoy the fantastic four with us on the Saturday the 26th of July is it 26th yeah I think that's right so it's not opening night but it's Saturday um the brand new movie theater over here and I want you to get on it because a lot of people in the valley don't know this theater's opening in July and so they aren't pre-ordering tickets there because they just don't know So we want to get as many of you as able to get the tickets you want to get before they go crazy. Because a lot of the other theaters around here are already selling out of the fantastic four tickets. It's going to be a huge one. So get them now.

And the one you want to do is the new daybreak Megaplex, which is next to that new baseball stadium, the new B stadium here in daybreak area, kind of South Jordan. So if you're listening to me and you live around here and you want to go to this thing, you know who you are, now would be the time to nab your tickets early. Okay. Oh, it's a 4 o'clock show that day. That's the other thing I should mention. 4 p.m. That's when we're going. Oh, yeah. Good to know.

We're not doing a crazy night one because, you know, why would we do that to ourselves? Sure. But it's a brand new theater which should be great. Should have that new theater smell, you know? Yeah, like all the, right, exactly. Like, you won't have to worry about parts trapped in the seat from years and years and years of people sitting on there. Yeah. Yeah, it won't smell like stale popcorn from a decade ago.

right exactly won't be as much gum stick to the bottom of the seat not nearly as much not until we're done with it you know yeah so anyway that's all coming up watch for that's going to be fun i'm excited about that movie i know you are of course i am so yeah dean on the 24th and then flying out the next morning very early for washington dc i love it i still my favorite story about that is tina saying can you wait to see it can we wait till we get back and be just laughing at her i love that I think it's cute words, not even a response. It's kind of cute. Like, what are you supposed to even say to something like that with Brian in the mix? You can't say anything. Exactly. Our wives, our wives, they sometimes they just don't, they don't fully get it, you know?

Exactly. You'd think with my closet full of superhero t-shirts and the walls decorated here everywhere with nerd shit. Yeah. And the one time that we have a potentially anyway, the first proper Fantastic Four. Yeah, yeah. Like, I know. It's like it's like when we got that first Tom Holland Spider-Man. It's like, okay, they've been close, right?

They did this. They maybe got a couple things right with that, you know, the Toby McGuire Spider-Man. They did pretty good with the Andrew Garfield. Not quite perfect. And then they said, oh, no, no, now here's. Stand back. Here's your Spider-Man. Yeah, and they mean, they freaking nailed it, you know?

So here's their chance again. I hope they don't freaking F this up, you know. I love Jessica Alba. I love Chris Evans, you know, Michael B. Jordan, maybe not so much dude from Nick Tuck, but they had their chance, chickless. Yeah, which one had the angry bloggers, Dr. Dune? Was that the newer one? That was the newer one.

Yeah, the one with, oh, five, I think. With Maverick's son, or no, Goose's son as Reed Richard. Oh, yeah, very young. It also had Michael B. Jordan, as you said, in the role of the torch. And then who was it? And you said at Just Galba, right? Was that who that was? Yeah, but Jess Galby was the first fantastic for it.

Miles Teller was, yeah, who was the woman? Who was the Seuss Storm in the... I don't remember. Hmm. I don't remember who she was. I mean, you look it up, obviously, but... I'm looking it up real quick because I can't remember. Let's see if the chat...

Oh, Kate Mara says TV's Travis. Oh, Kate Mara, that's right, yeah. I like all those people. I like them all. I don't remember who played the thing. I'm pretty sure that was just a CG thing with a voice. Well, the new one is too when he changes. But anyway, whatever.

I'm excited about all this stuff. Bring it on. Let's go. I mean, just the bad movie poster. Let me remind you, Scott, I'm put in our chat here. Just let me remind you how bad the movie poster was from the 2015, Fantastic Four. Let's take a look here. oh gosh it's so bad

why were they so wrong about the thing fan forstick fan forestic oh my gosh I hate it I forgot they did a fan forstick yeah fed forstick I love these actors all three of them I love them yeah but the Photoshop on their faces

and and horrendous horrendous why can't you make a thing that looked like the comic thing it's not hard yeah this is poopy this is just poopy also what city is that did they blow a whole city up because good lord it had to be new york that's where the yeah that's true that's well i i can't remember i really block so much of that out of my head yeah um i can't even i could not even tell you who played uh uh dr doom toby kebbell okay oh toby kebill is um he's he's one of the the motion

cap actors and voice actors for one of the for the evil apes yeah Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was also... Duritan. Yeah, there it is. Duritan. He's very good. And what he does. He's just, that's the wrong pick. You also had Tim Blake Nelson as Dr. Allen. Fantastic. So that's a cut. So that's, that's two people in that movie that would go on to be better MCU characters later on. Right, right. With Michael B. Jordan and him. Michael B. Jordan. Yeah, get to do something else. Also, what does change is coming mean? What does that mean? Is that what it says in the movie poster?

Yeah. Up at the top. Stop. Change is coming. What does that mean? That doesn't mean anything. No. Finn. Finn. To force it.

Right. Do you remember all those good Marvel movies you've been seeing from Disney? Oh, change is coming. Yeah. That's garbage. Although this preceded it a little, didn't it? It wasn't this? 2005 was this?

When was this movie? No, that was 2015. That was after we had gotten... Oh, shit. You're right. Yeah, we had gotten a bunch of really good Marvel movies before that. There's so many good movies that year that I forgot this one happened then. I know. Well, one in particular. Yeah, one in particular. Well, a couple of them, but yeah,

that one is. We know what it is. I'm not going to mention it. Right. Brian, let's move on to this text we got from Cash Nexus, which sounds like a place I'd like to visit. That sounds like a place I need to bring my card. Yeah. To get some 20s. Do you need a loan to get you through the weekend? Come to Cash Nexus.com. He says this. He has to, he has to, he has to, he has to, he's is a word here. He says, no pumpkin and pumpkin spice. What? You mean there are no fajitas and fajita seasoning and no ribs in my rib rub rub? Where does this madness end? Don't tell me there are no Italians and Italian spice. All right, I have this to say to Cash Nexus. All of his, all of his, all of his things. Like, let's just start with fajitas and fajita seasoning. Sure. The seasoning is

to put on the fajitas. It doesn't imply that it's made from fajitas. pumpkin spice implies that it's from pumpkins not a spice right you're not implying you're spicing something you're not spicing a pumpkin all of these are bad examples you're spicing pumpkin pie though like it's what you put with pumpkin to make a pumpkin pie oh that's true that's a good point yeah okay from that angle what you put with fajitas to what you put with meat to get fajitas yeah that's a fair point if that's what he means if that's the angle he means then okay we'll allow it but i mean generally speaking though if somebody says here is a drink it is pumpkin spice flavor right my assumption is expect it to be to be flavored like pumpkin

not like cinnamon nutmeg yeah the stuff you sprinkle on something right right right any more than i would say hey i'd like some beef water make sure that's fajita seasoned like and you know and that really doesn't explain like Tina hates pumpkin she will not eat pumpkin pie i'm with your wife it sucks yeah i don't like it but you'd think then that she'd be okay with pumpkin spice because she likes nutmeg and cinnamon that's true yeah it's not like the coffee tastes like pumpkin yeah i actually kind of like it like i think i said the other day i really like the pumpkin spice as its own thing yeah but um yeah i mean it's semantics at the end of the day uh it will be a uh it's one of those things you're going to see every year it's going to know you a little bit and then you're

going to move on and it's okay yeah all right exactly we're all going to make it through. We'll be fine on the other side of it. That's right. Dr. Nikki wrote in to tell us that we'll be fine with this and that is how to take care of your squirrel problem, Brian. Oh, good. Okay. I love that she did this. Let's check it out. Hey, Scott and Brian, Nikki here. I think I have a solution for your squirrel problem. So you're not the only one who's fighting for your life against squirrel stealing all of your bird seed. My grandma and aunt have been upping the ante every every few months to the point that my aunt started electrifying her bird feeder and like setting out traps and collecting dead squirrels and buckets it was pretty scary but my grandma found a solution

which was to get a i don't really know what they're called but it's like a galvanized metal pipe like a pretty wide diameter one that you would use for like an exhaust for a like a wood stove or something and put those leading all the way up to your bird feeder and make sure that your bird feeder's nowhere close to anything they can jump from and my grandma had success with that ever since and they haven't been able to climb up because it's just too wide for them to grip. So maybe you can try that. Good look

and love the bird seed though. So wait a minute. Your ballast thing that you put up top though, isn't that kind of that idea though? Yeah, there's a baffle. Or a baffled up ballast. A plastic dome which does great with the scrolls. Scrolls can't get past it. It's the raccoons

somehow. I don't know how I need to, I found that I'd gotten in like a a tech loot crate box. I found a Wi-Fi-enabled night vision camera that I'm going to put out there and see if I can see what the raccoons are doing to get the front of the bird feeder pulled off so that it dumps all the food onto the ground that they can eat. Yeah.

I mean, they are ingenuative little turds, those guys. Yeah. So I love that. You're going to get a, can we get footage of that on the show and stuff? Oh, I'd love to. Yeah. If I get footage, you'll absolutely get it. But Luke Sidewalker, I am feeding, currently I'm feeding the damn squirrels.

And that's, I'm fine with feeding the damn squirrels because they're not destructive. They still, they still have worn, it is amazing to me, the path in our grass that squirrels have worn. You wouldn't think squirrels would be able to wear like a specific path from the tree. That's great. It's kind of crazy. But yeah, no, I get, from our hardware store, I get $10. pound bags of shelled peanuts.

It's the cheapest per ounce price that I've been able to find is just the hardware store peanuts. But if somebody else has an idea, I checked Amazon way more expensive and I'm not getting the stuff they sell at the bird, you know, the wild bird's unlimited store, the dedicated store.

But yeah, so I'll go there. I have a little scooper. Put a scoop of peanuts out for the squirrels every morning. Check the bird feeder. Make sure it's all full. Oh, we're getting right now we're getting some of my favorite birds the red wing blackbirds oh yeah those are pretty love those they have a great great uh shirt not chirp what do you call yeah no it's like uh the call like it sounds like a cord like they're strumming a cord yeah really cool they're cool we have those too um grackles and uh oh what's a grackle uh it's a it's a big blackbird like uh looks like a it's

smaller than a crow, but, but, um, bigger than, about maybe robin size, bigger than your, like house fin and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, look at these old guys. I like these guys. We have these two. I didn't know they had a name. Well, obviously, they have a name, but, yeah, they're not a fan of their eyes. They're, like, you know. Yeah, look at that. They look, they look, angry. They're there to give you a message. Car, the ghosts are coming. You're all going to die. Car. He's scary. Jeez. Yeah. That's pretty. I like those. Um, I was going to say, Oh, I have a friend here locally named Shane

and I brought up your story or your deal with the squirrels. Yeah, yeah. And he goes, I have a solution. And I said, what's that? And he's like a hunter guy and all that. It's a big Ford F150. He's got guns in the back where he takes him out,

skeet shooting all that shit. So I go, I go, what would you do? And he goes, well, I just shoot him. And I'm like, well, that's, we're not trying to kill him. We don't want to, he doesn't want to kill him. I'm not looking for the final solution, I'm looking just for like, you know, I want some, you know, separation. I want some protection for the bird seed.

That's it. That's all it is. We're not trying to, you know, destroy these creatures. But, yeah, his solution was, I'd just shoot him. Yeah. I did. Cool. For a while I was, I do have a little humane cage catcher thing that you can put some peanut

butter in the end. And then as soon as they step on a little platform, the end that they came in on closes. And then I, you know, pop that in the car. I take it a few miles down the road to a really nice park and let them go. Who knows if any of them have made their way back to my area. But it's a park that when I go west, I ride through. I always just look around and say, hey, squirrels, your friends are doing fine. I've decided to feed them now.

That's great. I love that. Yeah, I'm going to, if you ever ask again, I was referring squirrel problem. I'm going to say, well, we're not murdering them. If that's what you're asking. Yeah. I'm going to say we and Brian, but. I was going to say, now it's a raccoon problem, and I just don't have the kind of fun raccoons that the folks have in Chicago.

Yeah, those are like super almost domestic, even though they're mostly wild, but they're just, you know, kind-hearted little guys. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how you change that. It's a culture thing, man. It's regional. They're just destructive here. Yeah, the inner mountain raccoons are dicks. That's the bottom line.

And Bobby Ann would say, well, just put out a bowl. So, you know, bring in the bowl of peanuts if the squirrels haven't finished the peanuts and put out a bowl of kibble for the for the raccoons at night. And it's like, great. Then what am I going to get wolves? Like, is this just going to keep escalating? Yeah. While Kim was out there, she threw Bobby Ann threw a rack of ribs out there. Oh, my God.

I know. Yeah. And I don't know if they were, I didn't ask or, you know, dig in, but I don't know if they were full ready to go. These are all ribs ready to go. Or were they leftovers? It could have been that. Could have been that. Just letting them chew on the leftovers.

Pretty wild. But yeah, that's what you got to do, Brian. You got to wind them and dine them for him not to be dicks. I'll just make a little hand scanner to access the peanuts because, as we know, my hands won't scan. Which movie did that happen? In the first of the third? No, it was the it was the ride at Disneyland. It's like, that's why they need the, the writers.

to go onto the thing that lifts you up and down. I can't go on there. My hands don't scare. I can't get through the senses. It sucks because every time you say it, I think it's in the third movie I still haven't seen.

But it's not. Oh, you haven't? Oh, my gosh. I don't know. I just watched it again over the weekend. Dude, this many months later, I still cried. I have no excuse.

I have no excuse. I just need to watch it. Oh, wait. You know, this comes before John Wickford. you need to watch Guardians of the Galaxy free and not and not yeah and not as a not as a watch along where you're distracted by the chat or any of that stuff no you just need to yeah just on your own i mean i mean kim will watch it she'll watch it with him will watch it with you for sure and she'll she'll cry as well carter won't because carter doesn't like to cry during things she she won't watch it

with you she will she will she will yeah she has this thing where it doesn't matter what it is if there's anything sad in it or even if it's the final season of something like she refused her favorite thing in the world is Samurai Jack it's her most influential animated thing it absolutely

goes right to the core of the kind of artist she is everything about it is inspirational for her and she loves it she watched a ton of it but that final season she cannot bring herself to watch it because she knows she's going to be sad she knows it's the end she's terrified of the new King of the Hill one season one off revival thing

she's because she has just so much love for it. It's not that she's worried it'll be bad. She's worried about all the sadness around certain people being gone or Bobby getting older. Like I even, she won't even watch the new intro that leaked in leak, but they let it out. And part of that intro, there's a quick shot of Bobby with Hank, good Hank or whatever they named the baby, Cotton Hills kid that he called better than Hank. Anyway, he's on Bobby's shoulders and he's older and Bobby's older, obviously. And he's running around, like, they have this cool little relationship. Me just telling her that got her all teary.

Was enough to get her, that's adorable. Yeah, so she ain't watching Guardians 3 with me. Totally. Oh, my God, that's really funny. And she's seen it. She saw it in theaters and she cried there. I was going to say, and I think she cried there. Yeah, I remember you're talking about it.

No, that don't, don't wait. That's a good one to watch ASAP. There's a lot of discussion as far as like, is it, is it the best one? Is it, you know, Dr. Calhoun says it's weak. other people say nope a lot of people disagreeing i would still put one oh see but two would you go one three two but but just barely i might go two one two one three only because oh interesting my favorite my favorite scene in any marvel movie is the beginning of two with um with mr blue sky and baby grute dancing around while the rest of the team is fighting the uh the that that

giant beast. It's pretty good. If it weren't for that scene, it would be one, two, three. But because of that scene, it's 213 for me. And they're all really close. It's not like a big gap.

Exactly. They're all really good. But the, this is the best Marvel movie pre-Thunderc, I'm sorry, this is the last really good Marvel movie pre-Thunderbolts.

So, it's like your, Thunderbolts is awesome. Everything between Guardians and Thunderbolts. me, but Guardians 3 absolutely great and worth saying. If I were people, I would hurry up and see Thunderbolts while it's still in theaters because it was a very good theater experience. Loved it.

And you might be able to get it a discount right now because it's probably just getting close to like, all right, it's almost on Disney Digital and then it'll be on plus or whatever. Disney positive. So watch for that. Yep, it's a positive. Zach on the Round One company, he sent this in. Remember we talked about the Japanese

company Round One? Right. Well, we talked about that Claire has, after I described that place called Breakthrough with all the little individual escape rooms, Claire said, oh, yeah, we've got something like that in Ireland. And it's far better because there's less genocide or something. I can't know what her reason was. But she said it was, you know, it was, her version is called Round One. Less genocide at ours.

Well, here's what Zach says about this. He says, hello, squirrel and bear. I was just listening to your episode 2803, loose kangaroos was the title. I don't remember naming it that, but whatever. Yeah. And you were discussing round one. It's definitely a Japanese chain company. They were everywhere here.

I didn't know they made it to America. They offer bowling, karaoke, skating, mechanical bull riding, coin games, video games, phone booths, and even the dreaded claw games. Okay. Some people like those are different. This is more like what we had here called main event or have here. Oh, yeah, right. This is the arcade here at the mall that I thought we only had here, but he's saying it's a... That's it.

Okay. I mixed it up with the other thing, too. I thought it was the thing Claire was talking about. But you know, this arcade also has a lot of genocide of this arcade. So it might be an issue for her as well. Anyway, he says, a funny memory I have from visiting one is almost being speared by a giant icicle that fell behind me from the sign. It's always good to hear you talk about the country that is now my home. and yes, we have cat cafes here

of both animal and maid types, meow. Ooh, maid types. So you can either go to a cafe where it's actual cats walking around with you or it's maids dressed up as cats, serving cat-like food. I think I definitely showed you my picture from when we went there with Justin and Tina and I.

Yeah, I love that Japan is into that stuff. Oh, my God. You know, if I had to... So ridiculous. If I had to leave the U.S. for any reason, Japan, I think, would be our first choice to... That'd be your first. Yeah.

I wouldn't mind... Maybe Australia. I think South Korea'd be great. I'd always feel weird about the looming north, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Or England. England would be really...

You know, I've got family there. I've got... Yeah. All my favorite bands are there. So, you know, concerts would be right there. So, I don't know. It'd be tough. And you could hop around, like, Germany and Spain and everything.

Easily hop around Europe. like prices would be like hopping around from here to Kansas or Missouri or Nebraska. Some places even shorter. It's like you'll be in France and, you know, three hours or whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. It's ridiculous. Well, anyway, thank you, Zach, for that. Appreciate it.

And I'm glad that I sickle didn't impale you. Or what is it when it comes down? Impale is up, right? No, you're thinking of stalactites and stalagmines. You can be impaled from any direction. Oh, is that? I didn't know that. I honestly thought impaling was only.

if you landed on a thing. I think if it goes through you, it's impaling whether or not it's pushed or you fall on it. Like a rebar flies off the back of a truck goes through my windshield and through my head. I've been impaling you. Oh, all right.

Yeah. It's good to know. Everything else impales in comparison. I see what you did. There was a little wordplay. It was really good. A little bit of word play there. And just for the record,

we're teasing Claire, like to tease and also Brian and I we know that any time we talk about something we like yeah you know there's a very there's a non-zero chance that declare is going to chime in with yeah it's really good except for all to the food waste exactly and we know that genocide is in your fulkin country it'd be fine we know we know we know we know we know exactly oh yeah of course we know yeah we just like to give claire a little poke that's all Wait a minute. Can we retract what I just said and say to it anyway? Let's rephrase that, yes. Okay, we like to give Claire a ribbing. Nope, that doesn't sound right either.

We'd like to tease Claire. There you go. Oh, hold on. BioCow says I had to set something down and pull out my phone just to say to Coverville, boo. Oh, for the impales in comparison joke, is the dad pun. Oh, yeah. It's the most dad joke thing we've said on the show in years. It was great, though. I loved it. It was really, it was very dad jokey. I do not say boo. I say, boo. I say, Yay, that's what I say. Well, that's great. Well done, everybody. Thank you, Zach. Thank you all these calls and texts.

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Today, if you listen to the show, you'll find out. Will rushing the stage cause Katie Perry to roar? Which band did Sharon Osborne kick out of the final Black Sabbath tour? actually still don't know. And have we had enough of Morgan Wallen? Find out by going to Daily Music Headlines.com and listening to today's episode. Oh man, Morgan Wallen, I was getting in trouble these days. What's going on with that day? Well, it's more that he's locked up three spots on the Billboard Hot 100 singles. Oh, so he's doing too well. I see. He's doing too well. He's got the number one album right now and three of the five songs. He finally did, you know,

it was the first thing to finally unseat Kendrick Lamar who'd been, um, who'd have, um, who'd have the number one spot for 28 weeks. Oh my gosh. With the they're not like us song. Is that the one? Yeah. Yeah. Damn, that thing lasted forever. But not like us or no, it was a different song. Oh, it was

it not like us? Bop boom, bap, bam. Something you'll never understand. I don't know how to Yeah. It's pretty good. GNX. Oh, that's different. Yeah. No, that's different. That's album charts. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, that's the album.

Luther by Kendrick Lamar and Siza. That's the song that's been up there for 28 weeks is Luther. Jeez. You think I know, because every Tuesday I have to say, and number one for the 25th week in a row, Kendrick Lamar and Sizzle with Luther. It's nice to see a little bit of competition, though, between the hip-hop crowd and the country crowd, though.

It is, yeah. And Wallen's a little more modern country, so he's got a little hip-hop in him. So maybe there's some crossover there. I don't know, but I've talked to some old-school country fans that can't freaking stand Morgan Wallin's whole vibe. But there are also people that can't do the whole like, oh, I hear Young Gravy's got a country album this week. And I heard, you know, Post Malone's country albums pretty good. They hate that shit when they cross over like

that. And I said to him, I said, well, Wendy, I do too. I think it's great. And I said, well, what do you like? And he says, I like Hank Williams Jr. That's what I like. Like, well, all right. That's a little limited, but okay. Just Hank Williams Jr. Yeah, I guess you're You want to play some football or whatever you do? I don't know what you do. You want me to finally replace the A-track player in my Ford? I'm not going to do it until... People like...

William's Jeter comes out with a cassette. This is that hill this my friend wants to die on. I'm like, all right. Yeah. That's the guy who Morgan Walsh the dude on when he was the musical guest on S&L who... Booked it out of there. Like, was up there, booked it, right?

Like, during the hugs, the stage hugs where they're like, Hey, big thanks to Dana Carvey and Mike Myers for showing up and had a really good time, really good week. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you next time. And then Morgan Wallin, phew. Yep, he was out of that. Did he ever talk about it? Got to get out to God's country.

That's right. Did he ever say anything about it or like explain it or any of that? No, he might have, but I don't remember it if he did. Because in my head, maybe he just had to poo, you know. Right, right. You know, it's valid. I've been there before. It's valid.

You just got to take a dump and you're like, oh, with the camera's off, okay, I got to go. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Totally, totally makes sense. All right, here's an interesting thing. Mass graves, they're always entertaining. Let's talk about those. Mass graves.

Oh, yes. Always fun. Always fun. The mass grave for fighters in a Roman Empire era battle is revealed in Vienna. So this is fun because it's historical. See, it's historical. No kidding. Construction crews churned up dirt and stuff to renovate a Vienna soccer field last October.

they happened upon an unprecedented find a heap of intertwined skeletal remains in a mass grave dating to the first century Roman Empire like the bodies of warriors

in a battle involving Germanic tribes dirty Germans Dirty Germans Intertwined Maybe they were a little orgy Is this a little Roman orgy going on? Because the Romans, you know, they were into it

Yeah They were like that's true I mean they started Orgia I think is originally an Italian word Exactly Um, the, uh, um, would you play soccer on the field that was a Roman burial ground? Um, you would put a house there, sure, right? Yeah. I don't think I would, yeah, I wouldn't build anything there that I would live in, but I think I'd be fine. I think I'd be okay with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there are atrocities under our feet all the time. There's always. Oh, yeah. Yeah. As far as I know, there's a whole tribe of, of indigenous American Indians buried under this house for all I know. I don't know.

sure sure i hope not but you know that's the world we live in humans treat each other like shit as we've seen in recent days yeah you know we're not here to we're not here to talk about the the daily real news but you know it's been a messy couple of days it's been it really has been no fun for anybody i don't think yeah macklemore got robbed that's unrelated but uh really phineas phineas got tear gassed at the uh the thing in california the the uh peaceful protest oh shit You can't be having that because he's really important to her whole career, you know? Exactly, yes. What's Billy I, what's, what's Phineas, or what's Billy Ilish without Phineas Ilish?

Exactly. Still a great singer, but maybe doesn't have quite the level of production. Oh, yeah. And then McLemore got robbed. I didn't even talk about that at daily music headlines, but yeah, McLemore. What happened? What were the circumstances? I think somebody broke into his house and stole a bunch of stuff from, he has a house in Seattle.

Does he have to legally change his name? to mackle less now because he doesn't have more anymore yeah i think so yes oh was he so i guess the nanny was there let's see oh geez the nanny was maced oh shit i should have covered this on daily music headlines the home of seattle rapper macklemore was broken into and raided over the weekend while a nanny and three children were inside suspects apparently spread the nanny with bear mace and stole valuables before fleeing the home bear mace bear mace jeez don't think ever been exposed to bear maize it sounds terrible

i do pop some tags oh yeah that is macamore's songs are i never remember that that's a song thrift shop is the only one i can i know there was another one that was more of like a a positivity anthem kind of thing i couldn't remember what that is

but thrift stop is the only thing i can think of were they his kids that were there they must have been terrified those poor kids so let's see i would assume so just a maiden three children's without saying they're his children is a weird it is weird right yeah maybe the maid had kids was just there i don't know just house sitting or something yeah i don't know well i hope they get their stuff back i hope the maid's okay and may all of macklemore's children be okay yeah there you go uh well

anyway these guys churn this stuff up and uh they're now going to make a bit of a presentation out of it because the bodies of 129 people have been confirmed at the site of this uh place called simmering It's kind of a neighborhood in Vienna. Simmering. The evacuation teams also found many dislocated bones and believe the total number of victims topped 150, a discovery never seen before in Central Europe. With the context of the Roman acts of war,

there's no comparable fines in fighters, of fighters, rather, said Michela, Michellea. Michaela. Shit. I should know that. I know Michaela's. I know what's wrong with me. Who led the archaeological dig.

there are huge battlefields in Germany where weapons were found but finding the dead that is unique for the entire Roman history so that's pretty wild if what they're telling is true the Romans the Romans killed people and buried him in mass graves no no way oh I'm sure

they were nothing but nice all the time they're the Germans or the Russians that's kind of it's kind of cool I'll be curious to see what they do as far as like a memorial or a museum or something yeah I think this is a good it's a historical find worth you know digging more into

but also a good lesson don't kill each other and make mass graves for it yeah I know we do that a lot as humans maybe we should learn we could learn from our history maybe fewer mass graves let's uh more more love fewer mass graves yeah that'd be great let's fly over to something a little different Pokemon shaped chito sold for 87 thousand dollars and eight sorry 87 840 dollars 87 grand plus

why can't I find a freaking Cheeto like that I'm sure there's, you know, it's really, we're just not looking closely enough on our bags of Cheetos, Scott, because I'm sure I got a bag of beaver nuggets from the Buckees. I just need to look at him to see if any of them looks like a wheezer or something. Well, that's probably the problem we have is that we're not paying attention and that we've maybe eaten a hundred of these in other forms and we just aren't paying attention, but this guy did. Like there's your there's your Pokemon. It's Charzard. Oh yeah, that's right. I remember seeing that. Yeah. I mean, that is a great-looking Charzard.

Oh, it's excellent. That's as formed as you're going to get. In fact, if it didn't look like a Charzard, you'd be mad at Cheetos, Frito-Feriteau, for making such a nightmare Cheeto, because that is not what you've been promised. Jim Brown would look at that thing, or Jim Brown,

or whatever the Reverend, one of our, out of control reverends and just say the Cheetos are the devil. They find that and say, these snacks are satanic. Yeah, look at satanic. They're flaming hot devil worship. That does look like a flaming hot, is it?

It is. I think it is, yeah. Yeah, it's presented as a three inch long flaming hot Cheeto in the shape of a Pokemon Charzard affixed to a customized Pokemon card and encapsulated and clear storage box. The auction described it. It says it was initially discovered

and preserved sometime between 2018 and 2022. Let's see, the Cheeto surged in popularity in social media. 60 bids uniquely shaped snack got according to the listing the winning bid was 72 grand plus buyers premium so more of those fees wow yeah that's a crazy fee the um somebody needs to do a little i don't know a little uh c s i on that thing just to make sure it's not five cheetos strategically glued together right because it does like that is to me to to to be able to stay in one piece in a bag that's packaged and shipped somewhere in the country and taken somewhere else and that sort of thing. I mean, it looks legit like all one Cheeto. Yeah, I feel like that almost looks like a custom job. Yeah, like it's been melded together or something.

Yeah. But it's a lot of money for a stupid thing. Like really stupid. Think about it for a second. Like, we're just, humans like to see shapes and things and we see patterns. So it's like, oh, Jesus is on my toast or whatever. This is just another version of that. And it's the fact that anyone's got the money to spend on shit like that, what are we doing?

I mean, though, you know, the shroud of Turin, if it were that level of detail, I mean, it'd be like, you know, Jesus's face like 3D coming out of the shroud of Turin, if it was that level. Because that is, of all the things that look like, you know, if all the food items that look like something else, that one clearly is the winner. That is like, that is like unmistakably a charisard. That's true. It is uniquely looking like that. It says it has 120 HP on the card. That's funny. Yeah.

I wonder what that's about. Well, Syrinxin, I can't remember who all said it, but it said, the reason chip bags are full of so much air is protect the product for transport. I know that, but still, that thing is bouncing around in that air with other Cheetos. The air doesn't keep the Cheetos from moving around and hitting each other. Yeah, and there are points of articulation on this thing that look like it would snap very easily. Exactly. Like that tail, that tail should have come off. Yeah, I think the whole thing, right of the waist here in the middle.

That's a skinny waist, yeah. There's no structural integrity there. Besides all that error, that's just an excuse for shrinkflation. They're putting less in there. Go back to the photo real quick. Hold on. I'll pull it up again. At the same zoom and level, go really tight in it. Yeah.

No, no, go up top. It says evolves from Cheeto. It evolves from Cheeto. Cheetilian. Oh, my Lord. They really went all out. And they even have a little picture of what Chetelian looked like. Yeah, you got the HP.

It says that it's fire-based. Obviously, it's a hot Cheeto. I don't like the glue job down here. It's pretty cheap. No, it's pretty, yeah. You know. Lame. Mix your resin with some,

your resin glue with some black so it doesn't show up so well. I have a bunch of bullshit on my shelf back here. I could sell for 87 grand. Does anybody want any of it? Take your pick. Yeah. Want a chicken that makes noise when you squeeze it? Yeah, I got you covered.

You got all that money. I got something to spend on. What, uh, geez. Want a first appearance of Wolverine, Hulk, uh, 180? Come on, or 181? Come on. Who's, who's a taker? Would you, what would you let that go for?

Because that's a pretty good. The lowest, the lowest I would let it go for, um, I'd let it go for a thousand bucks. It's not bad. That's not bad. It's, it's, um, do you know what it's worth like? It's in great condition except for the letters page. So back in the 70s, Marvel did this thing called Marvel Value Stamps, and you could collect them and send in a bunch and get some more comics.

And so whoever had this before me cut out the Marvel Value Stamp. It's a non-artwork page. It's basically the letters page and then advertisements on the back. So it doesn't affect any of the actual comic story, but the fact that it's been cut out of there is it takes it down from being easily what would be like a high 8.7 or 8 down to like a 6 or 5 or something horrible. And so at the maximum though, those are even then that that comic's worth what maybe 5, 6 grand? 5 or 6,000, yeah. And if you wait until like the ideal time to sell it when the first X-Men movie, the first Disney Marvel X-Men movie comes out, that is.

be the prime time to sell this thing. Yeah. That's the thing you never forget think about. You've got to time it for the hype windows that come around. That's cool. I have no comics like that. I do have some old mad magazines that are ancient that might be worth something. I don't know.

But I don't have any, like, comic comic books that are worth much. Like I got Spawn issue number one and perfect condition inside board and, you know, plastic and everything. But nobody cares. Yeah, nobody cares. Nobody's buying Spawn number one for anything. The 90s were flush. with copies that they're not rare exactly we were told like this is brand new number one even said on the thing collector's item yeah if it said collector's item on the front you do it was not

going to be a collector no that meant they were going to print way too many of them it wasn't going to matter you know here's a funny thing Hulk like if you google Hulk 181 it does like Hulk 181 for sale Hulk 181 cg 9.8 um the fifth or sixth item down is Hulk 181 value stamp oh man see maybe the stamps is How's the stamps worth a bunch of money? They're probably worth some. I don't know. Maybe I wonder if that was a rare.

Oh, here we go. Reddit two years ago. About to pull the trigger on a Hulk 181 CGC question about Marvel value stamps. So this is one where the person apparently did cut out the Marvel value stamp and they asked. The Senator Wanda was missing the stamp and he came back with no note as such and was graded blue. maybe it was another, but it was about a year ago. Oh, never mind. Yeah. I found one that they classified as a seven on your scale that you mentioned. The pages are a little off white, you know, that sort of thing. But overall, pretty good condition.

That sold for 3,120, so. Interesting. You might get pretty good money if you hold. Maybe I could get over a couple thousand for it. Yeah. I need to, this is one where I definitely would need to get it, um, CGC, uh, comic grading code or whatever it is. I would need to get it CGC rated because aside from the stamp, it's in great, great condition. And if it was, okay, I just found a nine. Yeah, oh, nine, it's going to be like $8,000.

Oh, my gosh, really? Yeah. You might be on to something decent, though. I think you might, I mean, if you plan on selling it, I don't know if you're going to. Yeah, I need to. I wouldn't mind selling it. I do eventually want to sell all my comics.

I have a long run of the Spider-Man comics that I could sell. Get like a whole white box somewhere. There's a stack. I think of the first appearance of, um, uh, scarlet spider, uh, like when the jackal cloned Peter Parker. Before it became the scarlet spider and there was the clone that the jackal made of Peter Parker. Oh, right. That's pretty good. Yeah.

That's in really good condition. Like this is the only one where I've got a, a really good comic with a really bad cutout issue. Yeah. The biggest issue I have is when I would read comics, I really read them. and they kind of wrecked them. They're not, you know. Right, because, you know, comics are meant to be read and enjoy it and stuff like that. It's like toys and like people want to keep it in the original packaging.

I'm like, what's the point? Even today, I'm like, if I get something today, I want to tear that out and open it and hold it and... Exactly. Put it in the compromising positions with a Barbie like you do, like everybody does. Right? Oh, I have the original Frank Miller Wolverine limited series signed by Frank Miller. Ooh, that would be cool. That's one I'll probably, I need to get bored in and I'll sell that one.

I'll put that one in CGC and see what I get for it. I like it. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, we are going to call our friend Amy. And we're going to talk about reading books and stuff. She's out on the road somewhere. She had to go somewhere. So I think it'll be on her phone, which is totally fine.

I think we'll end up just like ringing her on Discord. But she's coming up. So get ready. get your reading eyes on, get your, get your, your, your, your old school entertainment, you know, thinking, don't think about movies and TV for a minute. Think about books, paper. Think about books. Exactly. So, Brian, let's do a song before we get to her. What do you got for us? Well, I've got something that came from Spain. I can't even remember the last time we had a band that came from, from Spain, but this is a band called Sehor, S-E-H-O-R-E. The album is called La Dencia.

And this is really good. It didn't sound Spanish to me, but it does sound new wave. Like it feels like right out of the 80s. The song is called Superstar. Here is Sejore. In the Dictionary, I never ask you, but is a me who's who Bucca.

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super super super per you're super super super super super super super super star you're super super super super super super super super super star but is super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super

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and selfies And is your Tudu Just you do It's all right, or exists? Generational artes to the web

Lo-Foghe people, but always you're present But you're super, super, super super super super super You're super super super super super super pep You're super super super super super super super star You're super super super super super super star You're super super super super super super super super star

You're super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super super The beauty that is Ahem, ehem. Ere Suva, super, super, super, super super super p. Ere's super super super super super p. Ere supe. He's super super super super super super star. He was super, super, super, super, super star.

He's super, super, super, super, super star. He's super, super, super, super, super star. So I hope you've been straight with me. Because if I find that different, I'm going to come after you with a pack of dogs. Could I have my pants, please? And we're back. Who was that one more time?

That is Sejore and a song called Superstar from their brand new album. I think it's brand new. It came out this year called La Dencia. Very nice. Sounds like something I might enjoy. I think you will when you hear it. I think you will very much enjoy it. Yeah.

For those of home, I don't hear him tell after the show because we can't play him real time on YouTube or or Twitter. or anywhere else or going to the podcast or anywhere hey look who it is it's our old pal amy on the line uh let me play your little intro here first one of the things that i enjoy also is reading do do do do do do do hey amy what's going on are you in the car where are you right now i'm in the car i'm basically going to pull over there is an elementary school that is nobody's at it so i'm going to pull over so for safety you got that you got that sweet uh in-car speaker going, which is always fun, always easy to hear through.

It'll be, it'll be perfect. All right. And it sounds like assy. Yeah, it's a little assy. Sounds like ass. My wife's car is the worst sounding speaker. It's so bad, and I don't know why. You're fine.

Give it a show. There you go. Oh, so much better. Listen to that. Much better. Yeah, can you hear Brian? Okay. I just want to make sure I have you routed right.

Do you hear Brian? Yep, I can hear Brian. Okay. Awesome. Cool. Very good. Well, it's good to have you here. How the heck are you?

You're doing all right? Yeah, doing okay. Just had to have to kip up to Athens this morning to meet with a guy. My mom is 82 and her husband is around that same age, but he's also a, you know, is a disabled veteran and, you know, basically a grumpy old man and needs a lot of, needs a lot of, needs a lot of, care and my mom is not a trained caregiver and nor should she be at 82 so we're trying to get things organized for her so that she doesn't have to stress over taking care of him all the time i don't have you noticed but people of a around our certain age we're all starting to have to

deal with this aren't we we're all dealing with parents and other appearance of parents with others yeah it's complicated it's not fun always not always a good time i know this is the time like when I have to deal with this kind of stuff this is where I get really angry that my sister is not here because she was 10 years older than me so this should have been her job yeah yeah I should have been in like the support role where I'm like okay well let me know how I can help and she should have been the one like driving that bus but no now it's me yeah at the least at the least you would have been you know you'd have team there'd be a team you'd be the sister team getting stuff done taking care of stuff and that's Yeah, that must be hard. I don't like that. Well, anyway, it's good to have you here, though. And we're going to talk about some reading, some bookage, you know? I got a couple of clips from you today.

You want to give us a little preview what we're getting into? Sure, yeah. So back to, you know, kind of a little from column A, a little from column B this week. So if you want to play the clip from the one marked like underscore one, this will be some non-fiction. Here you go. Everybody gets your realism glasses on. Here you go. Less than 50 years after Thomas Mann published the classic TB novel, The Magic Mountain,

tuberculosis and the sanatoria that supported TB patients, was mostly a memory in Europe. For one example, take Switzerland, where the Magic Mountain is set. By 1970, Switzerland saw fewer than 10 TB deaths per 100,000 residents. However, in many new nations emerging from colonization, from Vietnam to Sierra Leone to Belize, rates of tuberculosis remained very high, partly because of the poverty and malnutrition

that make TB more likely to develop into active disease, and partly because the cure, so well established in Europe, the U.S., and other rich countries, was almost never available to poor people living with TB. In her book, an introduction to global health care delivery, Dr. Joya Mukherjee explains how in the years after formerly colonized nations achieved independence, when the recently created World Bank offered loans to poor countries, the bank's policies profoundly shaped the health care systems in those countries.

Restrictions on how much governments could spend and how they could spend it led to tragic underfunding of health care and education systems. By the late 1980s, Mukherjee tells us, Health budgets in many African and Asian countries were less than $5 per person per year. Jeez. Well, that's depressing that right there, that little statistic. My gosh, dude. Right.

Yeah. So this is from a book called Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green. And it is that John Green, the one that wrote the fault in our stars and paper towns and all that. So, yeah, he, this was like a passion project of his when he learned that the number one global killer of human beings is still tuberculosis. Really? Tuberculosis kills more people annually than cancer or heart disease or, you know, gun violence, any of those. It smokes them all. And for a disease that is completely curable and has been for many decades, that is, you know,

ridiculous, right? And it's all because of, it's all because of economics and funding. And he actually, uh, he took this on because he and his brother Hank have become very passionate about doing a lot of, uh, you know, charity work and things like that. And they started working with, uh, this group called partners in health in Sierra Leone. And they were mainly looking at things like child birth, like infant mortality and maternal mortality rates in Sierra Leone, which are really, really high. And so in doing that work, when he traveled there, he actually toured one of their medical facilities, and he met this guy named Henry.

And he was like, oh, he's such a cute kid, you know, he was like, you know, about waist high to John, and he was kind of touring him around and showing him everywhere. and then later on he was talking to one of the nurses about Henry and she said oh he's not a little kid he's 17 years old and it was because he had tuberculosis and so his his growth was stunted partly due to malnutrition but also because of the TB and everything and they were concerned because he had he had resistant TB and so it was very very difficult for them to treat whereas here you know if you have a TB you go you get a shot you know you're fine yeah um and just the thing we called lunger's disease in the in the cowboy times is that what this is it is it is yeah yeah yeah it is it's what doc holiday died from yeah it's all all of that yep and um you know they called it consumption uh and he talks about that for a while like it was a very fashionable disease because part of it was it made you very thin and gaunt and you know it was romanticized a lot it was

you know because a lot of a lot of people who ended up being writers and poets and the you know these very sort of romanticized figures ended up dying of TB so it was a very romanticized disease to have for a while which is kind of crazy to think about yeah okay you know it always had it always had this like weird like you know i got the rheumatiz or whatever it's like the old school nobody understood it it just knew that half the town had it and you had to be careful in fact according to the mayo clinic. I was just looking this up. Their basic definition is if you get it, this is how you get it. Uh, let's see where it is it. There it is. It said it is spread. The illness has spread through coughs, sneezes. And then I thought, well, that makes sense. And then she says and singing. So if you're singing while with TB, you are spreading some TB, baby. That's what's happening there. Yep. Sure. Anyway. So that forces a lot. I mean, I remember they, they said that during COVID too, right? Because of, because it was, because it was like aerial and like an aerial disease that like singing would, singing and talking a lot would actually spread the disease more. I remember that being the thing because I was like, I was kind of freaked out about my mom going to church, you know, because I was like, mom. Oh, that's a place where you'd be singing, right? Yeah. I didn't think about that because in my head, I'm going, where are people, they're feeling sick? They got favors. They're singing. They're not going to the karaoke bars. But yeah, it's like you're all clustered. together tightly yeah yeah no wonder everyone got sick in Vegas from freaking singing in that place

yeah well that's wild um so is it so it obviously it's very different from him he's usually writing books that are you know not a fictional kid lit kind of stuff sure that sort of thing so this is very drama yeah yeah it just like i said it really became it really kind of got a hold of him because he got super invested in what happened to this guy henry and um you know and and his treatment in particular, but then just TB treatment and testing, you know, at large. He, in fact, we went to go see him talk when this book was released. He did, you know, a little book tour thing where he did a little bit of a reading and he had somebody from the CDC came with him. And so they had a little one of those little chats, you know, like they do.

And the lady who was interviewing him said, I like to refer. to what you did with Danaher, which Daner is the pharmaceutical company that makes the test that can detect not only if you have TB or not, but also which strain of TB. Like if you have, you know, antibiotic resistant TB, because if you just treat it with like wide spectrum and you have the resistant kind, then that actually does more harm than good. So it's important to know which kind you have and it's important to know early on. but the tests themselves are incredibly expensive. Like the machines, it's kind of like printers. Like they have the same business model as printers, where the printer itself, not that expensive,

but the ink is where they get you. Danahert was doing the same thing where you could buy the machine that would, you know, do the test, and it wasn't that expensive, the governments could afford it, but the tests themselves were through the roof. And so he got on social media and, you know, used his extensive social media following to put pressure on Danaher to not, you know, up the prices.

Because it was one of those things where, like, the patent was about to expire, but they had a little loophole where they could extend it or something like that. And so they could continue their monopoly stronghold on it. And there was enough noise and enough social pressure about it to where they reversed course. And so he actually made a huge difference in that regard. So it just became this huge passion project for him. And he just got really obsessed with TB. And it's funny, he can almost tell you where you'll pick a thing. And he says, you know, everything is connected to TB somehow.

Like the invention of cowboy hats. You know, ultimately that came from people moving out towards the West. Because supposedly, you know, back then they thought that. it was an air purity thing and so you moved out right yeah everyone thought a drier climate would do like remember in 310 to yuma sure they took the sun out to arizona because they thought the drier air would help him humidity was a problem turns out humidity is actually better as well that's like that where they had like what they called breathing porches you know because they thought that that was that would help the TB patients to be able to just go out on the porch

a breathing porch like somebody was it just a neighbor was somebody got designated as the breathing porch and you all went in there yeah i mean like they have houses that what they called they called them breathing porches yeah wild that is absolutely wild i love the name of a breathing porch i'm gonna go out to the breathing porch for a while i got the vapors or whatever people have uh well that's wild that's definitely something to check out what's the name uh the name of the book again sorry The name of the book again is everything is tuberculosis by John Green. It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where somebody, I can't read the deal. Somebody would say something to Jerry and you'd go, tuberculosis. And he'd say, yeah, there's something, something, some, something, tuberculosis.

And he just keeps saying tuberculosis. I can't remember what the deal is. Just ringing a bell. Yeah, that's a weird, weird episode. Anyway, all right, let's get to your second recommendation here today. And what do you have? Yes. So the second one is definitely fiction.

And I'll set this one up a little bit and say that. the entire book is not read in this style. I wanted to include this clip because I knew you would like it, Scott, but she begins every chapter with like the would-be news clipping from that period. And so she reads it in sort of this like 1940s newscaster style. But it's just that one little clip that's not the whole of the book. Sure. I love that voice.

But I'm glad you thought of me because I do. Enjoy that. All right, here you go. Enjoy. A new Ellington score marking the return to Mars, special to the National Times. Kansas City, February 5th, 1970. Duke Ellington has been commissioned to compose and perform an original score to celebrate man's return to Mars. The Ellington composition takes about 10 minutes to perform. It includes vocal music entitled Mars Made to be sung by Ella Fitzgerald. President Wargan and Ellington watched together as the Mars Walkers left their spacecraft this morning.

This is a tremendous day. The president said, as we take our next step to establishing a permanent presence on Mars to create a new safe haven for humanity. The performance will be staged in the new White House in Kansas City and mid-August when the Second Dome at Bradbury Base will be opened and the colonists now in orbit to send to their new home on Mars. The performance will be transmitted to the red planet for the enjoyment of the 100 men and women living there. I would listen to Daily News Briefs by this lady. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, totally. I love it. That's awesome.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you should definitely, like I said, she's got, she does like a little news clip at the beginning of every chapter like that to sort of give you, like, the wider context of what's happening at the time. So the name of the book is The Martian Contingency, and it's by Mary Robinette Kowal. This is the next in the series of the Lady Astronaut Books. And I love it. It's fantastic. I actually got to go and hear her talk when this book got released as well. my daughter, uh, which was super fun. And she talked about, she does so much research. If you are a

person who likes your sci-fi to be really grounded in, uh, you know, sort of scientific realism to a degree, uh, she does the homework, man. She knows, she has talked to so many people at, at NASA. And, and, like, she knows, she knows, she understands. like the, the way that the calendar works, if you're on Mars versus on, you know, on the Earth, it's, you know, because they're, they're souls, as they call them, you know, like a day on Mars is much longer than an Earth day. And so this whole thing was based on weird, like how to, how to figure out what the calendar means. And she had just huge amounts of, of work. done where she was like, okay, if it were

1970 and we're landing on Mars, like, when would I have had to launch it? Like, she actually looked up the position of the Earth and Mars, like, what it was on those days so that she got all of that correct, because, and

she even said at one point, she had written it, and she had a friend look over it and said, um, actually like this, this part right here is wrong. And so she had to completely rewrite entire part of it because they're in if you don't know uh if you haven't read any of the lady astronaut series the premise for it is that a huge asteroid hits the earth and it causes an extinction level event

and but it's during the 1950s so it's like right as our space program is just just getting started so it's like the late 50s early 60s right like right as the space race and Apollo and all that's getting started so that's like the first couple of books there. So now we've established like, okay, we're trying to actually set up a working colony on Mars so we can start getting people off of Earth and start colonizing Mars. Let's go. Let's get out. Let's get in there, man. I'm ready. Let's go right now. So in order to do that, right? Like, I mean, you still have to preserve, you know, the culture and the customs of humanity. And so a lot of it is like, how do we, how do we do that? Like, how do I know, you know,

the protagonist of this book is Jewish. And so she's like, okay, I need to know when Shabbat is. I need to know when Passover starts and all that stuff. And then at one point, Barry Robinette actually at the talk that she gave, it was great. She talked about them being on the base on Easter. But that was like when she figured out she had made a mistake there in the calendar. And so, but she was like, I got to get out of jail free card because in fact there are two Easter's because like there's like Greek Orthodox Easter or something like that

she was able to work around it that way wow but yeah but and so like and like I say she does she does all of her work and very very diligently she's very detail oriented but not to the point where it's boring it doesn't sacrifice the story at all it's just not for those of you who would who would spot inconsistencies with the science it's not going to be distracting at all because she has done that work. It's all really, really good. That's cool. And you mentioned this was a series. They call it the Lady Astronaut

series. Is that what that? Yeah. That's what I'm reading here. That's a, what a great name that is. Yeah. I freaking love that. Yeah. And it's actually, so if you read the first book, and I totally recommend the entire series, it's fantastic. This is just the latest in the

series. She actually starts going by the Lady Astronaut because the first book is all about her really pushing towards okay we have to get off of this planet and we're gonna like women are going to have to be included in the space program yeah because at the time they wouldn't have been right like everything was designed with men in mind every all the astronauts during the apollo area i mean until we got into the 1980s with sally ride there were no women astronauts so you know so she the the first

first book is all about her challenging that and she recruits a lot of women who flew missions in the war as night witches uh which if you don't know what those are looking up it's awesome um it's my mother-in-law i think it's just badass women yeah it's just francis sons yeah take that mother-in-law anyway that's great uh yeah this is super interesting she's the she you bring her up a lot she's like i think your favorite isn't she Oh, definitely one of my favorites for sure. Yeah. That's why I kind of lump these two together because I know I talk about, I do a lot of John Green and I do a lot of Mary Robinette Kowal because, and so I was like, okay, well, I'll, I'll do them both together because I know I revisit them a lot, but I get excited when they release a new book. Yeah, yeah. Why not? Put them together. I think now they should kiss. Just kidding, don't do that. That's not cool. well there you go these will be on quicktms.l i already are already up there fishing as hell

over there brian today just killing it well big thanks to uh to amy and hooty for getting me everything i needed that's right big thanks to all uh to both of you yes big thanks to hooty again for uh sponsoring the segment and uh hopefully driving more traffic over to their little bookshop over there love that and um yeah so i was the one who was slacken to you know this time i was like kind of behind the eight ball what was having to go up and meet with the guy uh about my mom this morning and then got laid off yesterday so whole household that's a lot of basket turnovers so paining yeah had a lot going on i don't love that uh well tell chuck uh tell chuck screw them he's better than them and he'll find something

way better they're their loss yeah jerks yes um now he can now he can come here and ride the the MS-150 with me. Awesome. Nailed it. There we go. Yeah. You know, he's got, he rides bikes. He loves it. He's into it. Yeah. He'd leave Brian in the dust. He would. He totally would. You know, he could do the lookout mountain ride. Probably no problem. Yeah, he's really good. It's the, by the way, Hootie's, uh, hooty and his wife's store is called the pumpkin cottage. The pumpkin cottage. Yeah. You'll find, you'll find a link that will take you directly to it from the, uh, quick TMS segments now or the quick TMS posts on quick. Yeah. Having set foot in there, I can tell you, it's a fantastic family-owned store, and y'all should go, whether it's online or not. So do what you got to do. Amy, thanks for hanging with us. Always good to talk to you.

And stay safe. Bye. All right. And say hi to REM while you're in Athens. Just say, hey, Michael Stipe. What's up? Wave out. I'm giving the bird.

All right. Well done, everybody. That's it for that segment. It is now time for us to decide what's next because I can't remember. Oh, I know what it is. A reminder that. Play Retro was supposed to be Monday, but Brian Abbott, or Dunaway, rather, had a important medical checkup. It's not anything serious. He's doing good. Just a thing you do at a certain age.

You got a colonoscopy. I don't know why I'm dancing around. Yeah, yeah. I don't think he'd have any problem with you saying. No. So since the doctor had the tube up his hooter, he needed a day to deal with it. So today we're doing Play Retro at 4 p.m. our normal time. That'll be this afternoon. So check us out, frogpance.tv, 4 p.m. for the live show or frogpance.com slash plate retro for the podcast. I think it's going to do it, Brian. That's it. I think we should get out of here.

Frogpants.com slash TMS for everything except we need a song. Yes, we do. Ryan from Michigan wrote in and said, Brian, you mentioned a few weeks ago that there aren't many, there aren't many good covers of Bohemian Rhapsody. So I want to request the best cover of it. date uh date doesn't matter love ryan for michigan well he's right this is i think this is the best version of the best cover of bohemian rhapsody it's by you know favorite of many of our listeners weirdell yankevick this is something that he included on his alpocalypse album no alpaloosa ala album from 1993 usually weird al does these medleys these polka medleys that are all of the

top songs around the time that he releases his album. In this case, he just said, nope, we're doing one song. We're doing, um, we're doing Bohemian Rhapsody as a polka. And it's fantastic. Uh, from the 1993 album, Alapalooza. Here's a weird al-Yankovic and bohemian poca. Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide. No escape from. Reality Open your eyes, look up to the skies, and see I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy

Easy come, easy go, little high, little low Anyway the wind blow doesn't really matter to me To me Mama Just killed a man Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger now he's dead Mama, life has just begun, but now I'm going to throw it all away. Mama, ooh, just mean to make you cry.

If I'm not back again this time tomorrow, carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters. Too late, my time has come, sent shivers down my spine, body's taking all the time. Goodbye, everybody. I've got to go. Leave you all behind and face the truth. Mama!

Ooh! I don't want to die. I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all. I see a little bit more than a man. I see a little, caramouche, will you do the fandangelo Sandango, Thunderbolt, and Lightning, very, very frightening me! Galileo! Galileo, Galileo, Figaro!

Magnifico! Hey! Hey! I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me. He's just a poor boy from a poor family. Very misly from this monstrosity! Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? Is bin enough? No!

We will not let you go. Let him go. Bismenough. We will not let you go. Let him go. We will not let you go Let him go Will it let you go

Let me go Will let you go? Whoa, whoa, whoa No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Mama Mia, Mama Mia, Mama Mia, let me go Beale, zip up, had the devil put aside For me, for me, for me, for me! So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye,

so you think you can love me and leave me to die oh baby can't do this to me baby just gotta get out just got to get right out of here Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Nothing really matters. Anyone can't see.

Nothing really matters. Nothing really matters. Nothing matters. Nothing matters. Nothing matter. Anyways, anyways, when anyways, when blue. Hey! Oh, looks like someone just got their ears caught in the audio cookie jar at frogpants.com.

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