The Morning Stream - TMS 2838: Onion Latte
Episode Date: June 12, 2025Pour Low Sugar on Me. Talk like an idiot Thursday. Sucking on it for a long time. Wouldn't hurt to have a filled cream. Ye Don't Craveee it Fortnightlyyyyy. Dump the Resin Into The Thing. Underwear Ma...ker Lab. 99% Chair Mat. Chain Sucking Dum Dums. Ya ever seen soggy paper?! Hork it down real quick and your fine! A Thick Pile of Carpet. Kids, How Do They Work? Gary Got The Generator. Appreciating Ankles With Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, pour low sugar on me.
Sucking on it for a long time.
Doc like an idiot Thursday.
Wouldn't hurt to have a filled cream.
Yeah, don't crave it forthnightly.
Dump the resin into the thing.
Underware Maker Lab.
99% chair meat.
Chain-sucking dumdums.
You ever seen soggy paper?
Hork it down real quick and you're fine.
The thick pile of carpet.
Kids, how do they work?
Gary got the generator.
Jerk.
Appreciating ankles with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream.
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Hey, I found a way, this doesn't give me, it sounds stupid.
And Dr. Tolten, I probably have to send us another thing.
But I found a way through the miracle of online ordering to curb.
Okay, so I have this appetite thing where, you know, I'm trying to be low on the shug, right?
Of course, yes.
A couple years of this now.
It's going good, generally speaking.
It's doing well for you.
Yes, very much so.
Doing pretty good.
My recent tests were great.
Everything's good.
You know, I get this genetic tendency, blah, blah, blah.
but here's one of the problems I have
unless I have a little tiny something to get me through
I then crave things that are way worse for me
Right right so you know what I mean
So if I'm really being like
Ah Scott don't have anything but then I see a thing of Oreos
I'm done for the day like I'm gonna eat it
You know I could really go for
I could really go for a donut hole
I think I'll go get a donut hole
And then I see the big bag of regular
donuts or you see the donut shop and I'm like well it wouldn't hurt for me to get an old
fashioned and a filled cream Boston cream yeah yeah and they're having a three for two deal so
I'll just go ahead and get a third one and you know you start to just go down a road so yeah I found
a way to kind of curb this for just four grams of sugar which isn't very much it's pretty small
no it's not much yeah much at all I don't have two spoons that is I got a big 400 count
bag of dumbs look at these
That's what you were, that's what you were gnoshing on during pre-show today.
It was a dumb dumb.
That's right.
They're like cigarettes for me.
I can't help it.
So you're not going to go the way of that kid, though, right?
And order 200,000 of those on your doorstep from Amazon.
No, no.
In fact, I kind of made a mistake because they have a 500 pack in Sam's Club for about 10 bucks less than these.
And I didn't know that.
Kim chewed me out.
She's like, why'd you get these on Amazon?
We could have saved 10 bucks over at Sam's Club.
I'm like, I don't keep track.
But she does.
She's good at this stuff.
so anyway the idea is I give myself one of these early and then one later in the day total of
eight grams of sugar and then everything else I'm avoiding it and you know what it kind of it's
kind of working like I don't crave it I don't have the same cravings that's good good that's
exactly what you want that's that's why I do the um got the the Cleveland plain dealer jar that I got
you know when I went there and did the install and in it you'll find these little chocolate
candies that somebody sent us that are really, really good.
These Copico chocolate, or coffee candies.
Those are great, yeah.
And look, you're still going through them because you've got this piecemeal approach.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then the atomic fireballs.
And Petrolik knows my love for the atomic fireballs.
These things are, I don't know how, they're low in sugar and basically, you know, they can just, they can just sit, I can, I can, I'm trying to figure out a way to say.
I can just suck on them for a long time, but not say.
those exact words because somebody's going to copy that out and take it out of context.
Yeah. Yeah. It's too bad we don't have anybody in our community that copies out.
That edits audio and stuff like that. Nobody that does mashups or anything.
Anyway. Or makes it part of his persona. Literally his name online has the name.
It's fine. It's all good. But those, yeah, those, you know, I'll be working and it's like I could go upstairs and I'll get a freaking pepperage farm cookie.
Tina, Tina doesn't help with you.
these things she's listening you know not right now but she'll she'll hear this listen to this
show later on and love her more than life itself you know wouldn't couldn't imagine my life
without her all that stuff but um but she she buys freaking sugar smacks cereal she buys lucky
charms she buys um pepperage farm cookies every time around uh uh in february she you know we get
a bunch of boxes of Girl Scout cookies i kind of help with that yeah that's when i struggle
avoiding because, you know, what do you can do?
I'll get the shortbreads aren't as bad,
so I try to be good. The short breads are great.
I crumble, I take one cookie and I crumble it up
in some Greek yogurt. Freaking magic
right there. Wait a minute.
Why have I not ever tried that? That sounds really good.
It's the best. It's the best. It adds a little bit of crunch,
a little bit of texture to the Greek yogurt
and a little bit of sweetness, but not a lot.
It's great. I'm doing that next time. That's a great idea.
Yeah, my wife does the same thing.
It's like, who are these for? And she says, well, they're for the
kid, you dummy. And I'm like, yeah, but.
Right. But I'm here. I exist here. So if I walk past a table and there's a big thing, a crumble cookie, whatever, what do you expect me to do? And I'm being better about it because, again, these are great. Just like a quick, it's like a cigarette, you know? Just a quick, oh, I'm okay now. I got my nicotine hit. I'm all right for the rest of the day. And I didn't really, you know, I didn't spike anything. It's fantastic.
No, it's a good way to do it. It's a very good way to do it. You know what I don't like about dumb dums?
The way the paper stick gets...
The instant liqueification of the stick.
Yes, exactly.
It's...
I mean, it's the same reason that conservatives hate paper straws, basically.
It's like, it gets really soggy.
It gets really warped and soggy and kind of useless.
But it's the, you know, if I could just...
I position the dum-dum in my mouth so that the dum-dum is right at the edge of the mouth
because I don't want any saliva soaking that paper stick.
Yep.
So I've heard it,
I've heard it described before as appetizer main course.
Because this thing immediately gets soggy.
You end up with paper in your freaking mouth.
That ain't good.
That's not good for anybody.
You've read paper.
And like if these were plastic, they'd not be as cheap.
But if these were like, you know, little plastic sticks.
And yes, I know, not as good for the environment.
I get it.
I get it.
but if they were
I put that whole thing
halfway down my throat
if you know what I'm saying
there's another one Jamie
use it
exactly
Elmo draft house
so they
Elmo draft house is brilliant
and again you know
I keep braving at this place
we really should get a sponsorship
with these guys
I don't know why we don't
although honestly
why would they pay
for what we're apparently
giving away for free
but they know that
if you don't get a straw
in your drink
and your big plastic tumbler
of water or Diet Coke or Coke Zero, what I get, whatever,
that once you get down to those little bottom remnants of your drink,
as you tip it back, the ice goes,
and then as you put your cup back down, right?
Every time.
So they always say, do you want a straw?
They don't automatically give them to you great.
But here's the cool thing about the Westminster location anyway,
bamboo straws, biodegradable bamboo straws.
And they're freaking great.
I've got a metal straw that I've got that like collapses and comes a little washing brush and stuff.
And I was taking that for a while.
But once they switch to the bamboo straws, I'm like, okay, I feel better about what I'm getting.
That's awesome.
And the fact that they offer you these, anytime somebody offers you them instead of just giving them to you by default, I appreciate that.
Because sometimes I don't get them.
And then the fact.
And you know if they're going to bring them to you and you don't use them, they're going to throw them away.
And it doesn't solve the problem.
You ever try one of those agave straws?
They tend to be pretty good for about five, no, I'll say five minutes.
Oh, no.
And then they start to deteriorate because they are organic and they're made of, you know, real
agave fruit husk or something.
Pactus, yeah, or something, yeah, whatever that.
But by the time your drinks 10 minutes old, you got a little bit of a fuzzy straw.
And I don't, I'm not, I'm not down with a fuzzy straw, you know.
No, I'm not down with a fuzzy straw either.
So if you're quick, if you really hork it and you're done, it's fine.
Yeah, yeah.
You can do that.
well anyway
it's good stuff
hey you did
what happened
you saw the keynote
how to go
I did
I watched the keynote
I mean I didn't go
to it Scott
but I watched it
I put it on here
while I was doing
some stuff
with the 3D printer
I'm printing out
a bunch of stuff
as I mentioned
for Greg
oh my God
the base of this
um
tie fighter thing
just came out
so gorgeous
like I've really
dialed in the settings
on this
this new
any cubic printer
and it just keeps
reminding me like
wow the
something definitely was happening
with the quality of my previous printer
that just happened so slowly
I didn't realize it until it had really gotten bad
but I've been printing out this thing
these things for them and so it's a matter of like
okay that print is done
slice it off the the plate
get it into the alcohol bath
get the plate cleaned up put it back on
start the next print blah blah blah
oh fill up the thing
I was getting out
resin a new a new bottle of resin a one kilogram bottle of resin okay and um do you hear that europeans
kilogram you like that yes a one kilo yeah a one kilo bottle of resin awesome we're living their life
now this is good and you take off the cap and there's like a foil cover on it to protect the resin
very good send it back if the cap is damaged anyway blah blah um and my problem with the resin or with
the foil cap is, there's not like, you know, you almost want like a tab on one side so you can peel it off very easily, not get anything on your hands, not get any, you know, not get any resin on your fingers, anything like that.
And if you use, I have a little, a scraper that has a pointy edge to it, and I would use that to kind of like cut the resin bottle open, but then you're left with a chunk of foil that kind of hang.
off. And as you try and pour it, that
little chunk affects
the flow of the liquid coming out of the
bottle and can kind of run things
to the wrong space.
Sure. Sure.
The wrong place.
So
what I did this time, I'm like, oh, this is
brilliant. I'll use an exacto knife just to
cut vertically around the inside.
I can clean off the
blade very easily with a paper towel,
not get anything on my fingers, and
have a nice clean opening in the
bottle to pour into, which is exactly what I did.
Took the cap off, took a lexacto knife, cut around the top, set the exacto, or got the paper
towel, wiped off the exacto knife, bumped the resin bottle, which dumped onto the floor.
Oh!
I liked where the story was going.
I didn't go where I thought I was going to go.
Shit.
Yeah.
Carpet?
Carpet or hard floor?
What are we doing?
Chair mat, fortunately.
Okay.
Ninety-nine percent chair mat.
so immediately like
well immediately like expletives up the wazoo
sounded like the Tarantino film for a minute
but I picked up the bottle, got it upright
it had dumped about a third of its contents
you know, 333 grams of resin
all over the plastic floor
got it up onto a paper towel
that I already had up there for just to clean off the side
but realized, oh, no, I'm going to need a thousand more paper towels.
That's a lot.
That stuff for all this.
Did you have to wear any kind of like, I don't know, I'm just wearing clothes?
I immediately put on a, immediately put on a breather.
But here's the problem, the resin on the chair mat was kind of, and I was barefoot,
I got some on my clothes.
Oh, yeah, so that was step number one.
Step number one was, let's see, which order did I do this?
So I had some on my feet, but I was able to kind of step on a couple spots of the chair mat and get over to where the paper towels were to pull off like 20 sheets of paper towels.
And then pulled the trash can over and then wiped my feet and then took off my shirt and pants or shorts.
I was wearing shorts at the time.
Took off my shirt and shorts.
So I'm sitting there in my underwear in my maker lab.
Blotting the resin off of those and hanging them on the side of the door so that they're not touching anything.
Okay, so far feeling good about all this.
And then it's really just a matter of wadding up, or not wadding, but like folding over a few sheets of paper towel and like, like picking up handfuls of resin and throwing them in the trash.
my God it was and then spray bottle of IPA of 99% alcohol spray spray spray clean how about this over here oh yeah spray spray spray spray clean that spray this clean that my god what a freaking mess that
you almost had to call like FEMA or something that's a lot I feel like I did I did exactly and then open the freaking windows with the fan and just get as much of the you know the odor closed the door so in our
was in a different part of the basement so I'm like
all right good I'm not letting her in here
for so many reasons but get the
door closed that shows she doesn't get in there
and breathe any of this crap
and um very Walter White
totally right down to the down
being in my underwear dealing with this like
I felt like it was in the Winnebago with Jesse
going science bitch
yeah
yeah I was what I was going to say
have you got any neighbors going
smells like meth house
yeah exactly
call the cops
um
I think Brian's up to something.
Phil Fiske says, time for a really big silicone mat under your print station.
Dude, I've got, you're not kidding.
I've got these big black silicone mats and then slap mats, which are great.
Silicon mat that goes under my print station.
And then these slap mats that I got, no, those I got from online, what is it,
WAMB, I think makes them.
These are great.
So, like, you get resin on them.
You can either clean them off with alcohol on a paper towel or take them out.
or take him outside, the UV, the sunlight hits it,
hardens the stuff immediately, and you just brush it off into the trash.
What's it called Wham-Bam?
Wham-Bam is the company.
They make mats?
They make mats.
They make a whole bunch of 3-D printing stuff.
Oh, that sounds awesome.
For you Irish listeners, a chair mat is when you work in an office
and you have a desk or a chair that rolls on the floor,
they have these plastic.
masts that you can get that so your chair can roll smoothly that's the the the wambam mat is that
orange thing that he's uh oh gotcha he's wiggling around okay so they got a whole bunch of crap
looks like metal stuff they do rubber mats yeah what if this material is it i love the look of the
like that silicone loose silicone it's so cool yeah the the the slap mat is it's like that that
perfect silicon um uh silicon i don't know flexibility and softness and moving
movement. You can easily tell if there's anything on there.
I love stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, Claire, if you have carpet, more importantly, if you have, if you have like a thick pile of carpet, you don't want, you're, you're not moving. Your, your chair is not going to move very cleanly over it. So, yeah, offices will get these chair mats. And, uh, and the one I had under here, I moved it into the print room. And I'm so freaking glad I did. Yeah. Good Lord, man. Well, all right. I'm glad everything worked okay. You didn't, uh, lose any body.
parts or melt your face or
yeah anything bad like that so
exactly nicely done
uh hey david what a pain of the butt it is a pain of the butt
Dave in Canada uh not a pain of the butt Dave and Canada has something he wants to
say uh some music thing and I forgot what it was we'll just play it here we go
Hey Scott and Brian it's Dave from Ottawa Ontario Canada calling in regards to TMS 2387
paging Dr. Butt and the indie in the middle song Brian said it sounded kind of
Retro. It actually was a cover of a 1978 song by a Canadian group called Prism, Spaceship Superstar.
So technically, the song could have been at the end of the show, but Brian didn't know that it was a cover.
And that's cool. He can't know everything. But anyways, love the show, though.
Oh, a little bit, a little column right out. I remember liking that one a lot and thinking, oh, this is very retro. It's really cool.
How come Dave sounds like a Canadian Graham Norton?
Yeah, you really sounds like a Canadian Graham.
Do you play that again.
Hey, Scott and Brian, it's Dave from a weird.
Yeah.
You hear it a little bit?
Yeah, like the accent got pulled and changed a little bit, and there he is.
A little bit, a little bit.
Dude, thanks for letting me know.
God, I remember, I feel like I remember the band Prism more for the, more for an album cover.
It seemed like, you know, I'd go to, I'd go to record stores and I'd flip through the bins.
sure uh and you'd always end up at like the the catch-all single-letter bin like like i'd be
looking for there it is right there it is the uh the the pyramids i think i'm pretty sure that was the
the one i'll find i'll put give you a link to uh pull it up unless you're doing it no you but
you can put it in i don't have it um i'll bump us uh but i'd always end up in like the the
the catch-all single letter bin like here are all of the p records for bands that just had one
album and uh yeah um let me see here let me get a better better image of it our uh raspberry records
had that you'd go to they were always like tucked away kind of the ugly end of the aisle
it was alphabetical and it was like it was a little like looking for old bad comics in a in a long
box or something like that is what it reminded me of but yeah yeah it totally was oh thank you for
bumping our uh yeah no worries there you go paste here's the that's the prism album that i absolutely
remember it's like
oh my gosh look at that somebody not paying attention might think this is dark side of the moon
yeah i remember this too it's very floydie that's pink floyd as hell it's super floydie
it's because you've got you've kind of got the you've obviously you've got the the prism and the
rainbow from dark side of the moon but then there's like a little bit of a um uh what were the hypnosis
album covers uh wish you were here there's a very wish you were here kind of feel something
about the hand and the way it's uh touched up and almost
airbrushy.
There's something there.
Something very, very specific to the era.
Yeah.
I remember that album.
Yeah.
In the P.
Where is it?
It's in the P's.
Anyway.
Oh, my God.
And C Forever Eyes.
I think George had all of these albums.
Oh, really?
Your Uncle George.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They put out a lot of albums.
Young the Restless.
All the best from Prism.
Small change.
Okay, you didn't have these.
Young, the Restless.
Yeah.
They had an album called Young and the Restless.
Oh, my gosh, dude.
Sounds like they were trying to grab people's eye with different...
Like, you might think this is actually the soundtrack, too.
I guess it's just called Young and Restless.
Yeah.
It's still, it's a little close.
That's funny.
We got also a recommendation from Jen who wrote in and it says,
call this, not a call, it's a text.
And she says this, hey, Scott and Brian,
I just listened to episode 2837 and your recommendals.
Nicole recommended the wild crime documentary,
which reminded me of a movie I saw a while ago called Population Zero.
It is a mockumentary about a guy who killed three people in a remote part of Yellowstone National Park,
but goes free due to legal loopholes.
If people enjoy wild crime, they'll probably enjoy Population Zero.
I think you can watch it on Prime or 2B.
I've never heard of this.
No, and it's a mockumentary, so it's a satire comedy about a dude who killed three people in a remote part of Yellowstone.
I don't always love those.
Like, I'm kind of, good mockumentaries are amazing, right?
Like, anything Christopher Guest did or, you know, there are other examples.
But to get me, you really got to get me.
This reviews, it's a little middling.
I don't know.
I might check it out.
It's on Tooby, like she said.
Yeah.
So, Jen, thanks for the recommendation.
The movie, by the way, that I was trying to remember earlier is called The Grand,
which is the movie with, it's like, it is a mockumentary.
about a poker um it's called the grand the grand yes is that the name of a fake casino because
i love fake casino i think it's for the it's the contest is called the grand the the the poker
contest let's say right here that's definitely not it no it's not a merchant ivory film no um see
it's not coming up 2007 david cross oh oh this was a real uh well you're saying it's it a mockumentary
regular movie it's a mockumentary oh okay uh witty harrelson david cross dennis farina richard kynne chris parnell jason
alexander ray romano i mean judy greer michael mckeen it's it's got some great moments to it
is it long hair weird yeah it's like it feels like the kingpin like kingpin but the poker world
kind of thing.
It's Zach Penn.
He wrote the Avengers and
Incredible Hulk,
a bunch of X-Men shit.
This guy's a big deal and he directed that.
I never even heard of this.
It's,
it would almost make it great.
It's comedy, but it doesn't
hit every joke, but it's
but it does follow these
it's like IMDB
shows the trailer, you know, while you're
sitting there.
yeah um and uh david cross is the one who has the uh the website of like poker stars dot com
dot site with dot com spelled out it's great it's it's yeah i have marked it is a thing to see
so don't don't expect it to to hit every joke like not every every joke hits perfectly
but um uh but it's it's really really good worth checking yeah worth checking out
Oh, yeah, Ray Romano and Cheryl Hines are married a couple.
She's the poker pro.
If any of you want to see a good Ray Romano, Phil Rosenthal,
and then I forgot the guy that played the brother on everybody.
Yes.
Has the Comedy Club in Vegas?
Right, exactly.
It was on Seinfeld once.
Does the voice of the puffer fish and Finding Nemo.
Craig.
Garrett, Brad Garrett.
Garrett.
Brad Garrett.
Well done.
job McFerrick.
Anyway, he, the three of them are eating in the new fill, Better Feet Phil or someone
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So they're hanging out in Amsterdam looking like three old, three old Jewish codgers, having beef or something.
I don't know what they're doing.
Anyway, we saw that last night and thought, oh, that'll be a, that'll be a thing to watch.
Anyway, here is, here is Dr. Tolbert with, he's got a weighing on the pee up the nose thing, okay?
Yeah.
For those that didn't hear the show, it's maybe not what you think.
But anyway, here it is.
Good morning, gents, your friendly neighborhood family doc, swinging by again to make a correction concerning my last phone call.
At the end of the discussion, I said the word thyrostomy, which is incorrect.
I should have said tracheostomy, since we're poking holes into the trachea and not the thyroid.
I misspoke, and I wanted to make sure I corrected that error.
I also wanted to weigh in on the pee and the nose incident from 11 June, while the pee would not be in any serious danger of passing into the sinuses,
since the channels between the nose and the sinuses are really narrow, unless you've had surgery to enlarge them,
A pee stuck in the nasal passages, and especially under the turbinates, could absolutely cause a bad week.
Organic matter is excellent food for microbes and serves as a great place to hide from the immune system and our other defenses.
So getting that pee out is definitely a huge priority.
Interestingly, the way Scott did it is similar to what we would do for children in the same conundrum.
We will have the parents hold their mouth shut and blow into the opposite nostril from the obstructing object,
often blowing the offending item free and preventing further trauma.
So here's hoping that the things that don't belong in your orifices remain outside of your orifices.
And an orifice is the natural opening in opposition to an oastomy, which is an opening that we made.
And if you need anything else, don't hesitate to page me.
Okay.
So they actually blow, this, the poor kid has to have this head done.
You close their mouth.
So you're forcing them to breathe through their nose.
You plug up the one thing, shove air through there, which goes, what?
And pulls out, it blows it out the other end.
That poor kid!
I know.
I mean, it's better than them getting.
an infection and having all kinds of problems, but man, my gosh.
Poor kid, you can't put it in a sleep or nothing. Just imagining, just imagining the
feeling of that, like, poor kid, yeah. Damn. Never had to do that to any of the kids that I know
of. I'm trying to think if we ever had anything. Well, we had our own traumas. Carter almost broke
her neck. Taylor had a kidney operation, and Nick had, what did Nick do? Appendicitis. He got
lucky. All when he broke his elbow once. So there's that. Kids, how do they work?
We were pretty lucky with Tristan, all things considered, I guess.
Yeah, well, good job.
No, no major injuries or medical?
No, no, amazingly enough.
Yeah.
Still have his appendix?
We instilled him with a healthy amount of fear.
Still has his appendix, yeah.
Nice.
Hang on to that for dear life.
Just the tooth thing, like how he broke a tooth and then the adult teeth came in kind of fused together.
So they had to break those in his mouth to separate him.
And, oh, that sounds awful.
That was, that was a, okay, so that, there you go right there.
That's pretty traumatic.
I guess they probably numbed him for that, but still.
Yeah.
The needles.
He was well knocked out for that.
Yeah.
Nick had soft teeth when he was born.
So they, they immediately got like cavities, like it aged.
Oh, sure.
Like a year into his life.
He's got cavities and these brand new teeth.
So they had to do root canals on a baby.
Well, basically a toddler.
toddler oh my gosh it was awful oh because they don't understand i mean why they're having to deal
with this and all that oh geez but he's got great teeth now so good job on the adult teeth nick you
did it buddy yeah uh brian tell me your story about the scavenger hunt that we were yeah i told you
i'd tell this story uh after that recommendal from nicole yesterday about the um the treasure hunters
going after this thing i'll make this quick because i know we got you know we're close to the
top of the hour.
Back in the 90s, there was this game called The Stone.
It was an online game, but you went to the store, you went to the game store, and
you bought a physical pendant, came in a little pyramid-shaped box, and the pendant had
six little symbols on it that were unique to that pendant, or maybe there were two like
it anywhere in the world.
This is it right here?
I think that's it right there.
That looks like it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
And you would, you'd go to their website and then you'd plug in those six codes.
And it would give you access to this library of games called the immediate.
And each one was like its own little, here's a weird photo of something.
Or here's a weird diagram of something.
Figure out what we're looking for.
And you'd have a little space to enter in your answer as to what they're looking.
for and type it in and it would say, that's right, and give you some information about that,
or it'd be like, that's not quite we're looking for. And some of them were really complicated
and tough, required a lot of research and stuff like that. But about six months into them
starting to do this thing, they said, hey, we're going to do an IRL mission. We're going to,
we're going to hide something. We're going to hide a treasure somewhere in the U.S.
If you find it, you get a prize.
And it's part of a little online scavenger hunt with a physical aspect to it.
Sure.
I'm like, cool.
They post the first photo and I look and immediately go, oh my God, this is, we're living in Cherry Creek just outside of Denver at the time.
Tina and I were just married.
and I look at this thing and I'm like,
I know exactly where that is.
That is on the bike path towards the Cherry Creek Mall.
I see the little shape of the parking garage,
a little corner of it,
and it's a zoomed-in photo,
but I'm like,
that's the corner of the parking garage there.
And so the first chance I get,
hop in the car, drive over to where I feel like the picture was taken
and there's a tree right there.
I'm like, all right, I'm going to start digging.
And I'm here, I'm in a public park.
with a freaking shovel digging at the base of this tree and people are riding by on their bikes
and nobody you know nobody called the cops on me or anything but i'm digging no no no treasure
no no prize so i kind of pack things up and um and go back and and i even post in the forums i'm like
i know where this is i don't say where it is but i'm like i know where this is um and i think i even say
you know hey stone people um i dug at this exact location didn't find anything do you have any more
details and they're like they did no response or something yeah so um i you know i kind of go back there
a couple times i kind of just look and see if there's anything any changes there no and then
about a week later a week after uh uh figured where it were figured out where it was another guy
in the forum.
I found the treasure.
And he, because I had posted and had my name in it, he was able to look up where I live.
He was in Fort Collins or something, came down to the area, figured out, saw the corner of
the parking garage.
And it was apparently between the time that I went there and dug, and when he went
there, that the stone people actually put the prize in the ground, like really close to
the ground apparently to the point where you know if you're looking for it you'll find it very
easily but they didn't think anybody would find it as quickly as i did so they didn't bother
putting it in that place until they were going to release the second picture oh shit so this guy
got a freaking he got a gas power generator so he wasn't nobody planned on you being so
hardcore is what really this boils down to nobody nobody thought that anybody playing this
game would it would recognize the photo from the original uh from the very first photograph that
was so tight in and abstract that they're like well we won't worry about putting the prize in
until we do the second photo that's freaking funny dude it soured me the hell i'm doing the rest
of the stone like yeah i had you know the the puzzles are great and i just could not bring
myself to play that effing game anymore it would have pissed me off really bad really really
pissed me off the uh you were called they were called stoners if you played this game it says a player of
the stone was often returned uh called a stoner and then there's a there's actually a movie about this
called uh oh stoners yeah it might be worth finding i don't find a link to it here but somebody made
a movie about it might be fun to dig it and see what's oh i've got to find it so the movie's called
stoneers that seems like it'll be really easy to find yeah they got shut down an o eight looks like
went away yeah but they've moved all the puzzles over to scarecrow's field
So if you do a search for Scarecrow's field, it's a free, you can access all the online puzzles for free, just, you know, create an account and you can see what these things were.
But, um, wild.
Oh, yeah, I contacted them.
They're like, sorry, you know, it's just, uh, no guarantees or something like that.
There was some bogus response and, and it just, I just immediately turned me off to the whole thing altogether.
All right.
This got even weirder.
That movie has a soundtrack provided by Pink Floyd.
Provided by.
Oh, really?
Pink Floyd, yep.
Let's see.
Did the soundtrack to the kid?
All the music are variations from the Division Bell album.
Oh.
That's kind of a big.
Weird.
Sort of a big deal, right?
That's a huge deal.
Yeah, I'm not surprised by that.
What a bizarre get.
Like, I wonder how they, how they arrange that situation.
Oh, you'll love this.
In April 2021, several stone artifacts, like the one that you were robbed of, were released for sale in NFT form.
So somebody owns them now in NFT form.
There you go.
Well, good.
All right.
Now I feel fine.
Yeah.
If anyone, I had no idea there was a movie.
Dude, if anyone can find this actual movie, it's a hard thing to, you know, you do a search for stoner movies and you basically just get Seth Rogen's entire library.
But if anyone can find this movie.
movie. I want to see it. I definitely
want to see this. It's got to be out there, right?
See, Stoner. No, that's not
it. Yeah, this is hard to find.
It is. Oh, I think I found it on
IMDB. Oh, did you
really? Yeah, documentary. I'll show
the link with everybody. I'll put it in the
chat and then you can grab that one too.
Documentary looks at the diverse group of
people who played the game to Stone.
Brian nod on the credits he should be.
Yep.
It's reviewed. Good. It's up almost eight out of ten.
Yeah, with 23 people saying,
it. Well, yeah, it's probably a little low rent. But yeah, I don't know where you'd catch it, though. That's the hard bit. I know. I know.
Well, there it is. The Stoners. No, just Stoners. 2004.
Look at who Carol Bennett plays, by the way, in the cast.
Red Fraggle. I don't know what to do with today's information. This is all freaking me out.
I don't know. Is this real life? What is going on here? Pink Floyd involved, one of our own in it.
Yeah. At first I thought that said Carol Burnett, by the way, is playing Redfern.
Carol Burnett, who you were just talking about the other day, too.
Oh, no. There's more. Oh, no.
That's very weird.
Well, congratulations, Brian, on exposing the real stone problem.
Yeah, exactly. So, boy, again, if anyone out there can help me find this movie.
Yeah, written by Richard Wright and David Gilmore.
Crazy.
That's crazy. That's really weird.
maybe they were into it
Canada maybe they were way into it or something
yeah maybe that's wild
chat says look at the main character
are they talking about that one they're talking about
red frackley oh okay I thought it was somebody else
look at all these dumb names flinker
chrisfish
dark one I guess is their online names
these are their names in the
in the forms and stuff
I'll bet you the dude
I betcha the damn dude who got my
who got my generator
Not like I really want a generator.
It would have ever used it, but still.
Do you think it was Flinker or Magic Man, the guy your generator?
I think it was the guy who's just on there is Gary.
Gary got the generator.
That's right.
All right.
We're going to do some quick news, and then we're going to talk to my sister.
That'll be fun.
Yeah, yeah.
So stick around for that.
First, though, this.
it's time for the news brought to you by brought to you by coverville yes virginia there will be a coverville today we got to pay tribute to sly in the family stone we lost a sly stone earlier this week and then yesterday we lost brian wilson so it's going to be a double tribute to sly in the family stone and beach boys covers um but it won't be at noon because i got to get a ride in while it's before it turns into 85 degree weather so um ride first right
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There you go.
A little later today.
Yeah, and we'll be about done with Core then, so it'll be a perfect time to switch over.
Great.
It'll transfer over. Perfect.
Excellent.
Watch for that.
That'll be great.
Hey, a bazaar, a bazaar.
I'll say it right now.
Abadazar.
Upadizar.
New coffee flavor, and it's spelled F-L-A-V-O-U-R.
So we know this is from...
So you know it's got to be...
Yes.
This is from vegan news, by the way.
Somewhere across the pond.
Exactly.
A new flavor set to take cafes by storm in 2025.
The question is, would we try it?
This is what we're getting.
They're going to add, let's see,
shallots or spring onions to your latte.
An onion latte.
How you feel about that?
How you feel about that?
I'm not a...
fan i'm already not liking this onion latte no where are you standing on onions in general like
where are you where you at with those i love onions grilled up some this morning to uh put in an in an egg
uh basically an egg omelet with a little bit of cheddar cheese big fan of onions yeah same but um
not in my latte though especially a lotte it's got milk in there yeah like i do the um i've tried
the um the shot of or half shot or whatever it is of olive oil in coffee yeah yeah yeah not not
a fan of that either, but
definitely not a fan of this.
The mushroom thing people put in there now,
it's tolerable, but it all
tastes weird when you add these things in there.
Yeah. But if you want some dried
onions or shallots or spring onions in your latte,
good news. It's coming. Most have
it chilled as an onion ice latte. Some
have it heated up or warmed as a spicy
treat.
It may be cringe. But the most popular
new trend is crackling latte, where
chocolate is spread on the inside of a plastic cup
and hardened in the fridge. Well, that
that sounds all right chocolate frozen okay yeah yeah they buried the headline
no kidding um says white coffee's poured the side where chocolate is spread on the inside of a plastic
okay gotcha so basically it's just um uh yeah i mean it's just basically drizzled into the side
so that it it freezes kind of like um a dipped cone at dairy queen yeah same idea and then when they
it says here when they squeeze it the shells crack and it can kind of you know blend it in your coffee
and so you got a nice little, that makes sense to me.
That makes perfect sense to me.
This thing with the onions and the shallots,
what kind of monster are you to do that to anyone?
What happened to you in life?
Also, what benefit is there other than if you're really into the flavor?
Right, yeah, exactly.
There isn't any.
Here's another one.
I like this one a lot.
There's a video going around where a dog only responds to cake,
the word cake,
since it's birthday celebration.
This dog will not do anything.
It's a golden retriever.
His name is Boone.
He refuses to go inside of the house
until his owner offers to give him some cake.
And it's left the internet in stitches.
Of course it has.
The internet just can't get enough of this dog.
I hate it.
I hate when they do that.
The internet melts down over a post,
but no, nothing melted down.
Literally a few ones and zeros are transmitted
and a whole bunch of people saw it.
That's it.
There's no melting down.
Yeah.
I hate those.
I hate that hyperbole when people talk about the internet.
It's like George Clooney colored his hair and the internet had a
condemption fit.
Yeah.
No, right.
No.
Credit card transactions.
Somebody responded with the frowny face, frowny face emoji.
Yeah, that was it.
I hate that.
I don't know why they're allowed to do that.
It's annoying.
Anyway.
And really, this is the, this is the owner's fault.
You know, you cowtow to the dog once and you offered it cake to come inside.
You've done it to yourself.
you've basically made this dog addicted to cake.
You're going to have to face it.
He's addicted to cake.
Yeah, and you're going to have to train him out of it.
It's not the dog's problem.
It's not the dog's fault.
You did this.
Brian is right.
The dog did this or the guy did this.
And the dog is not the one to be given crap.
Although maybe the dog likes cake the band.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Oh, there you go.
I love this website, Dog Time.
I love it.
Only stories about dogs.
Our Google alerts are on point.
That's right.
Dogtime.com.
What else we got?
Big scary dog transforms into a baby when owner shows him love.
Oh, I mean, but that's it.
It's really just a, it's just a Doberman picture that basically is always that calm and cool.
He just looks intimidating.
You know what?
F. Dog time.
I'm just saying it.
Oh, dog time.
Yeah, you're the worst.
It's a great domain, but terrible.
I'm going to buy the domain dogtime.com site and usurp all of their articles.
Make a t-shirt out of it.
Change the world.
Exactly.
Right.
All right.
We're going to take a break when we come back.
My sister, Wendy, will be here.
And we'll talk about an email.
We've got a big one, a long one.
Yes, we do.
But a really well-written one.
I'll say that.
Very well-written.
Oh, my gosh.
It's extremely structured well.
Yeah, it's very good.
Whoever did this, we'll tell you who it was because she says we can.
But anyway, that's all coming up after this song, Brian's got for the middle of the thing here.
Indy in the middle to go.
Boy, sometimes there's just so much information that a band sends along with their song
that it takes me forever to read it and kind of parse out the information that needs to be relayed
to tell you, like where they're from, or what album, is this their first album?
Is this their fourth album?
Are they touring?
All that stuff?
I'm about to tell you about a band called the Archimidian Point and their brand new album,
Paper Street icon, and that is all the information.
I have. They are an unsigned indie band
that's really good, but
biography, empty.
Band info, empty.
So, here you go. It's almost like that
Stoner's movie. If you love it, and you
probably will once you hear this song,
go out and find some more information about it.
The song is called Rumble Strip.
Again, the album is called Paper Street
Icon. Here's the band, the Archimedean
Point.
Can't believe the state I'm in
Frankly, I am amazed
negative
but the dead
can truly be raised
as I can see
our new world rising
the glowing
the music
of my silver lining
but you
have such a part of me
It's lonely when I'm free
And I keep fearing off
Into the bleed
Now I keep moving
Now I keep moving forward
leaving the place I had taken
But I know everything's cyclical
And we
We'll meet again
A bit to take
Couldn't be borrowed
So why do we insist on tomorrow
You are such a part of me
It's lonely when I'm free
And I keep in full into the bleak, yeah, yeah, please
I think.
You know, I'm going to be able to be.
Hey, look, this may be your last time, but it certainly isn't my first.
Just roll a card down the hill, and I'll come up from behind, and I'll give you a little tap.
Hey, I got a black film karate.
And we're back. Who is that again?
Sure, that's the Archimedean point.
From their brand new album called Paper Street icon, that was the song Rumble Strip.
And that's all the information I have.
Fantastic.
All right, you guys, time for some of this.
Psychosomatic.
That boy needs therapy.
You're psychosomatic.
That boy needs therapy.
Lie down on the couch.
It's too early for a fish sandwich.
Says you.
But let's find out what Wendy, my sister says, the actual practicing therapist that comes
on out on Thursdays and helps you guys with your problems.
Hi, Wendy.
How are you?
Hi, Wendy.
We're good.
We're good.
Are you?
Do I sound all right?
We're in a new place.
Little muffled.
A little muffled, but I think that's just your, that might just be where your mic is.
Here, let me try something here on you.
Okay, now try it.
All right.
Hi, can you hear me?
A little better.
Give me a little more.
Hi.
Let's try this.
Let me try this.
It's fun for everyone.
Oh, that was better.
Whatever you just did.
You move your head or something.
Does that sound better?
Much better.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
A thousand times better.
I think my mic was in my shirt.
That's exactly what it sounded like, so I think you're right.
No worries.
You should check out my website.
It's called No Better Audio.
But it's spelled K-N-O-W Better Audio.
Which can be a little confusing.
Definitely.
No, you're all good.
You sound fantastic.
Let's dive in and have some fun here with my sister.
We've got a big one, a big email.
We're going to read the whole thing.
And it is okay that we say their name because they actually say it in the thing,
which I didn't see when I first read it for some reason.
But anyway, here we go.
Let's get started.
Hey, Wendy, says this email.
First, I want to say that I don't need to be anonymous.
It was a pleasure meeting you in Vegas and discovering your hidden talent in DDR.
We had a blast, didn't we?
I assume you did a dance, dance revolution session.
We did.
That's fantastic.
I've been dealing with this issue throughout my career and it's resurfacing.
I've, oh, you know what?
I got that absolute wrong music playing right now.
It's like we're still playing.
in DDR here for some reason. Anyway, so as I've been dealing with this issue throughout my
career, it is resurfacing. I figured it was time to write in because I really could use your
expertise, the issue working with a hidden illness or disability. I've been at my current job
for almost two years now, however, it has been the same type of job for over a decade, and I
consider myself an industry professional. I won't delve into the specifics of the industry
because it's often boring and difficult to explain. However, I work in a graphics-related
job. It requires me to be at a desk all day, with objectives focused on maximizing output while
maintaining accuracy. I work from home most days, as do all office workers. In short, I'm consistently
producing quality work and have always ranked first or second in making the fewest mistakes in my
department. And in parentheses, perhaps that's a humble brag, but it's the simple truth. It's a bit of a
humble brag. It's fine, though. It's all right. We get those sometimes. I love a humble brag. Sure.
for the you know what's worse than a humble brag a non humble brag okay yeah right catching and
acknowledging that it's humble brag is far better yeah keep those coming those are great yeah it says
however it's however i work oh no i did that part for the last several months my supervisor has
mentioned in our monthly meetings that my quality is excellent but my output is lower than expected
for my role there are additional details to consider for instance she is the manager for customer
service and lacks knowledge about my graphics or about graphics or my job
graphics and caps which I think means like the department yet she has created the metrics
from for my department additionally my colleagues and I are compared to each
other instead of working towards personal strengths and goals this becomes
challenging when some co-workers cherry-pick or cut corners to achieve better
metrics I refuse to do this but I understand it is the nature of the job and
someone always does it at every company I've ever been I'm currently at level
two in my role out of three. That's pretty good. Unless that's middle. I don't know what it is.
Well, yeah, there's, she goes into why that is a problem, which makes sense.
It says, however, I'm unable to meet and have ever met the metrics for level two. I have requested
immediately to be demoted back to one where I can meet all the metrics, while this is truly
annoying and extremely frustrating, my biggest concern as I have explained to my supervisor several
times, that I have both been both diagnosed and undiagnosed chronic illness that prevent me from
living a normal life. This affects both job and life tasks. I have a, or had a chronic issue,
sorry, sleeping issues and migraines my entire life. And they only seem to be getting worse with age.
I describe it as living like a zombie every day because I'm walking around, but I don't fully feel
present. I highly suspect that I have been living with ADHD as I experienced most of the
symptoms I have had for so long I can, sorry, have had for so long I can remember. Currently, I have
FMLA for my chronic migraines allowing me to
fully excused day off one
sorry let me try that again I have
FMLA for my chronic migraines I assume that's
family medical leave act oh I thought it's like a medication
that's where my brain got all hung up on it all allowing me to
fully excused an excused day off every week if I have a flare-up
which I use responsibly use that day off responsibly
My supervisor insists that I am so close to meeting my metrics of my role that I just need to try harder.
She said if I don't start meeting her metrics by the end of June, she will revoke my work from home privileges, forcing me to work in the office until I can meet these numbers.
Working from home has been a great accommodation for managing my symptoms.
I have explained that I am already giving 110% at work, leaving me exhausted when I check out or clock out.
often leading me to bed around 5 p.m. every night. I'm doing my best to manage my symptoms,
but I'm not currently medicated on anything. I relate to your previous therapy Thursday segment
about empathy fatigue, which is likely a symptom of everything else happening in my mind.
I have reached out to HR to see if my FMLA offers any protections and have requested once again
to be demoted to level one. I have clearly stated that this, excuse me, this is an accommodation I am
seeking, however, both HR and my supervisor, a very ablest language, or using ablest language
with me and having dismissed all my concerns when I bring up my chronic illnesses.
They say, or sorry, they still think it's a flaw in my performance and something that can be
fixed, quote unquote, by trying harder. I'm currently seeking a new job, but similar situations
have occurred in nearly every position I've held. I worry that changing jobs might not be my solution
or improve it. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you for your support over the many years of
Thursday signed
Stephanie
in a pets
she needs to
play more mobile
games I think
that would help
but anyway
that's an inside joke
Wendy
so a big one
there
feels like
also kind of
common these days
with you know
five years after the pandemic
the work from home
mandates are weird
now it's like
it's like a weird
we're in a weird
time
so already want to
start with this one
well first of all
you know
thanks Steph
for telling us
this is all this is there's there's a lot here and sharing um your story i i think she's highlighting
something that is long been a problem and then is particularly hard since these work from home things
have shifted right um and that is it you know a chronic illness one that's not visible
specifically has always been difficult for any system to treat well or with
with respect or you know and that's what fmLA is for right so she's she's utilizing what currently
exists it sounds like wherever this place is i mean it just feels like like hello
it's just she's saying demote me to the level where i can do it and they're like nah just try
try harder is is wild and and some of that you know when somebody has no idea what it's like
they are you know when she said they use ablest language maybe we should define what that
a little bit yeah good idea because that changes sometimes right like it's it gets
redefined yeah yeah and it can be you know sort of just the discounting just natural part of
you know regular people walk around live in their lives they're they're saying things
that automatically include or exclude people who have different mobility issues or have different
hearing or vision issues, right? And so the language is just, you know, absolutely discounting that
there's an alternative to just work really hard, right? Or an alternative to just hurry over
there or can't you see this or, you know, you can imagine a lot of versions of this where it's
the default language. Right. And it just does not take into account anyone's abilities or
their very, the variation in that, et cetera. So one thing, Adam and I will
talk about every once in a while is just like the power of inclusive design when you think about
so let's take sidewalks for a second do you guys remember the day when sidewalks did not have
the slope so you could you know wheel something up on a wheelchair or a stroller or your bike or
whatever do you remember those days quite a bit you just hit the curb right or you jump off
the curb bikes were the big thing like whereas like all right I want to get on that sidewalk
Like I've either got to jump my little huffy up there or I've got to put my feet on the ground and lift the front tire on.
Man, I love how universal the huffy experience was for people of a certain age.
We all had huffies.
It really is.
We all had huffeyes.
Practically mandated to have a huffy.
You did.
And that was an example of able-less design.
It was for those who were able to pick their bike up or, you know, or step up or whatever, right?
Inclusive design would be like, okay, we're going to make.
this wheelchair accessible so someone who needs the assistance of a walker or wheelchair can get
themselves up onto a safe place like a sidewalk. And so that gets created and then list five people
who benefit from that. Ready to go. Okay. Oh gosh. So people who are in wheelchairs otherwise
brilliant and perfectly capable of doing anything really. It's just their legs don't work. So now
they can. People with walkers or canes. People who just can't.
You know, there are people who can't lift their legs high enough.
Tina's mom would have a really hard time getting up onto a curb that's that high.
So valuable resources as humans now have access.
Kids with huffies.
Kids with huffies.
Think about babies, strollers, parents, grocery carts.
Like any cyclists or humans that need to be safe from a road.
How do you get away, though, from this natural?
I shouldn't say natural.
Obviously, we recognize it.
But the default human nature of, I'm stronger than you, I will survive longer than you,
I am genetically better than you because you can't do the things I'm doing.
So therefore, because you're less than, I'm not going to, that's your problem, not my problem.
That feels so fundamental to the human conundrum.
I don't know how you solve that.
I mean, the fact that we can recognize it, it makes us better than apes, dogs.
Not recognizing it, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, okay, so this sidewalk example is, it illustrates this thing perfectly, right?
Like, so somebody had to probably, somebody probably in a wheelchair had to demand that at some point.
If you look at the history of the ADA and ADA requirements for buildings and think of how you are shut out of the world of work and community if you couldn't get yourself inside of a building, right?
So this is the age when that I'll change, please someone Google it for me.
It's not that long ago.
And then the requirements in every new building has to meet code.
And, you know, you're switching an entire system that went from, I just walk around because I'm 25 and healthy.
Sure.
And to, you just don't have any idea until somebody made their voice known and demanded change.
And enough, you know, I mean, there have been various sit-ins and marches and protests and things historically that have.
had to be done so that people with varying disabilities were seen.
It's a very unseen group historically, right?
Yeah.
And so there is that all that work that was done.
And then the hard part here that is so frustrating, I'm sure, for anyone in the disability community,
is everyone benefits from ADA.
Every one of us have had to carry a heavy cooler or a box into a building.
And you had a door open for you, right?
Right.
Right, right.
You had a ramp to go up.
You had wider doors to move your furniture around.
Like, everybody benefits from inclusive design.
Similarly with web stuff, more accessible design on the web.
You know, I mean, let's talk about, what are the subtitles.
How many people don't need subtitles that rely on them heavily now, right?
Right, right.
They are, there's some brilliant technology that's come about in order to benefit certain groups,
and then they end up benefiting everyone.
So this is what's tricky is that I don't know if either of you ever sprained an ankle, like for real or broken ankle? Oh, yeah, big time. Okay. Right before we were putting carpet in, I did that. And Kim will never forgive me for it. Yeah. Yeah, that seemed on purpose. Okay. Tell me this, though. Had you ever in your life appreciated an ankle before until that moment? Not at that level. I didn't, you know. Yeah. It's required for literally everything. Yeah. I sprained my ankle really bad. And it's, it's, I sprained my ankle really bad. And it.
took three years to rehab. But I'd like to just note, I produced eight individual ankles
inside of my body when I had children. But could I heal my own? No, no, no, no. Isn't that crazy
to think about it? That's a wild thing. But my piece of crap ankle took three years to be
normal. I mean, it's so frustrating. So I think the human deal is that the empathy required to
you have to force some empathy into a person who has decision-making power to get where you need
to go on societal level or people with power need to have that their own experience with
like a twisted ankle to appreciate their ankle or having a moment where they learn this.
So Scott, you probably remember this.
Our father one night went, you know, we went and got ice cream at Downs a lot.
Remember that?
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Yeah, Scott was terrible with.
ice cream. But anyway, we would all go to get ice cream. And our dad was always trying to teach us
different lessons. So he had us and he was never, he would not be PC today in any way, but
no. He said all kinds of things that wouldn't work today. So he rented a wheelchair. He got crutches.
He had one of us blindfolded and he made all of us have a physical disability. Yep. And walked around
the mall. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. I will never, never forget that. It was a massive memory.
So we had a person guide us as young people to step in someone else's shoes and realize how inaccessible the world was.
The ADA was not complete than I don't think.
At least it wasn't universal.
No, you didn't see it everywhere yet, I don't think.
So we were dropping crutches, pushing through doors, trying to keep our foot up or, you know, we were racing the wheelchair around.
Obviously, we were children being crazy.
But, you know, I think I was blind a couple of the different experiment.
Anyway, so we really had this like very that, that right there.
So you take, we're going to go back to the email or now, right?
You take having had this experience, especially something like chronic migraines, chronic fatigue, anything that is sort of this ongoing difficulty, it is an autoimmune thing usually.
Flare up is a really common word that that we use for that type of thing.
because it comes and goes and it is not always predictable sometimes you'll flare up because of
the weather shifting and you are just out right and so it is really difficult to maintain work
and maintain consistency and work like physically typical people are working so this this
HR person and this supervisor has no idea what this is like they've clearly never sprained their
ankle right they've clearly not had chronic migraines or if it's
They have had something like that.
They think they've pushed through and they're better for it.
And so you should too.
That's another faction of this, right?
But not these chronic levels, not these.
Anyway, so it's super frustrating.
And when you don't have something physical on the outside to look at, to go,
oh, I need to be nicer, or I should probably open that door for you, or anything that
activates their empathy and it's just you didn't turn in enough things in time, the hard
thing right now is that they live and look at, well, you work from home, so you must be being
lazy at home, which of course is not at all what's happening. In fact, it allowed so many more
people to work. I was going to say, plus it, usually the people who work from home are devoting
more time to their work than they would if they were in an office because there's not chit-chat,
there's not breaks, there's no distractions. Right, exactly. Yeah. And yeah, you can sit on a
couch and chill out. But it's actually a higher burnout rate for folks who are working.
working from home.
And that's because that exactly the thing you're saying is there isn't a really good delineation
between home and work and when you're on and off, right?
So there are factors to pay attention on both sides, right?
But when somebody, like it feels almost like a medical requirement, which I, I mean, maybe
that's the future of this delineation, right, for some that it really is the best place for
them.
And it sounds like for Stephanie, this really is the best.
option but you know what I don't love here I don't love that she's feeling on this pressure and then
some days she just crawls in bed at 5 p.m. like that that's that is not a that's not good um and it
sounds like she's communicating really clearly to everyone so here's where this gets frustrating and this is
why we have so many lawyers right is because if we can't communicate it clearly we can't get a
response often the reason anything has changed is because organizations get sued
anything changes is because a a lawsuit enough people come together and you know to create
that that kind of shift um and so now all the doors that we all enjoy and all the ramps we
all enjoy and all of those things enjoy because people gave and we sued the crap out of stuff
and eventually it becomes just a norm and makes life better so it's very irritating that it
this much work. Yeah, and when something becomes a norm and everyone's using it and benefiting
from it, including those who maybe previously were critical of these changes, but now they just
accepted as part of their life, roads without potholes in it, working traffic lights,
functioning sort of day-to-day public contract law type stuff. I want to punch them in the
face the minute they start talking about that. It's just like, well, what are you talking about?
Where do you think when you flush your toilet, your poop goes?
Where do you think all this happens?
You think it just disappears, but you're still Mr. Libertarian living in a tree up in the
mountain somewhere and like, F off.
Sorry, that makes me really mad.
This is why we need more field trips for adults.
You know what I mean?
We need whole groups of people to go walk through the water filtration system and to actually
understand what this takes and to see the budget.
and to see what people are paid.
I mean, most people just don't know how things work, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And so in this case, she has reached out to HR
to see if FMLA has protections for her.
Here's what I hate to be saying,
but HR is for the company, HR is never for people.
Right, right.
And so you need to reach out to a representative
at FMLA probably or some other organization level
who advocates for folks,
with disabilities and see what we got there.
Did they, that didn't, that didn't get doged out of existence or anything, did it?
Or is it still?
No.
Okay.
I mean, what?
I don't know either.
I feel like a lot of stuff got hit and I don't know what actually got here.
I know.
That's where we need a field trip.
Everyone go and find out what actually happened and see that your information is stolen by
Doge.
Yeah, I think that's the tricky part, right, is to know what to do next.
I have, I will send this to her separately,
but I have someone who is an incredible advocate in this area.
It doesn't live in the same state,
but is so tuned into this world because of the medical concerns in her family
and needing to advocate for her children and has on every forum you can imagine, right?
I'm telling you, you find the advocacy Facebook and Reddit threads like this is where
this is where the hard work gets done and find out what people have done and how they've operated
because it's it is you know how many layers above this can you actually go and what what laws
protect you so and your state's going to be different I'm sorry to report to all Americans
listening but you are safer in some states than than others you have more benefits in
yeah you could be you could be you can find or confined to a wheelchair and be the governor
of Texas and then still advocate for less rights for people.
That's the world we live in right now.
That dude benefits from all of this stuff,
but he sure like to throw it all away.
What's he going to do?
Freaking push himself around?
I guess he does with the wheels,
but why is this stuff piss me off so bad?
Does we have a whole session for you?
We may need to.
I'm so had it with this stuff,
this hypocrisy, man.
It's killing me.
I know. I know.
Anyway, can I tell you my,
maybe I mentioned this before.
I don't know, but it's this new thing I'm, I just, it's a really helpful reframing for me
is the libertarian to how should things run, etc. I just really like this framing of, I want
it to all be run like a household. Because in a household, you spend money for the benefit of the
people in that household. You do not cut everything and act like it's such a nightmare to spend
money on everyone that lives in your house unless you have an abusive house right but you budget and
you think about it and you plan for the future and you're sensible because the future also matters
for the members of that household but clean water or healthy food is part of what you're budgeting
for or something right like you can see the health of a system such a different way to think about it
than all the bull crap that it is anyway um so scott maybe next week we just have you
write down all your grievances and uh oh my gosh it's like a festivus here i'll all right
my grievances i've got problems with you people yeah i'll do that yeah no yeah so i would
really encourage her i'm i'm going to i'm going to find out if this other person's got some time
and space and have them connect and see if how they can maybe talk about some things because
this is just really common it's less common in some ways because some people
places do it well. Right? And that's what's tricky. And so I love the, I am looking into another
job and I know you've had this before, but that might be one of the requirements that you really
find out how they handle these kinds of things. And ask around within the company. My favorite
job story Adam ever had is he applied for this job. And he got to interview probably 10 people
on a team and asked everyone, what's the thing you like least about working here?
and most of them named a person?
Oh, same person or different people?
Same person, because it was somebody over everybody and just said, it's really, and
you know, managers ruin your life.
Like, managers make a job or ruin a job for you.
Like, it's really common.
And so it's funny because he asked the right question.
Everyone was pretty honest.
And he took the job and then spent the next year complaining about this person to me.
And I was like, um, I'm pretty sure they told you.
So you need to believe people when they tell you.
So find a way in any new job environment that you get to talk to coworkers and you get to ask for somebody who has any other, and obviously HIPAA and other reasons, they can't tell you who has disabilities, right?
But you could find out, like, is anyone willing to talk to me?
Yeah.
Because I'd like to know how it feels to work here.
You are providing a service.
I think we're so built to think, like, oh, I'm just lucky to have this job.
And that's, they're lucky to have you.
I know that sounds like, oh, wow, that's arrogant, and I'm never going to get a job if I go on with that. But they are lucky to have you, and you're giving them way more than somebody who doesn't have to struggle with these things is giving. So you need a place where you can be safe to do so and have these legal protections are there on purpose. I've worked with a few people recently on going back to school, some at older ages, some dropping out because of ADHD and some other things. They just couldn't do school. And I'm, I'm
working with so many people on like, do you know there's an accommodation office at every university,
at every little college? Because there are people who absolutely can do this, but they just need
some accommodations. And most people have not heard that, which is wild. And I forget that as a social
worker, I probably know things. Other people don't know. But it's, it's really important to keep looking
until you find the support that you need. And I get also saying that while you are exhausted is really,
really hard to do.
Yeah.
So ask your support system to sort of help you with this.
I'm going to send you somebody and then, you know, whatever else we can do to support you
because this is really tough and it matters and this is your life.
I think, you know, you just get jobs and do jobs and live life and, man, my jobs are
jobs are life.
Yeah.
No, they are.
They're more of your life than we make it a huge percentage of our life.
Yeah, it's so much of it.
Yeah.
It sucks.
Yeah.
And we just don't, I don't know why it's so hard for everybody to get on the same page of this stuff.
Here's the other thing I want to say it.
I don't want to get mushy or anything.
But Stephanie coming to Vegas, I know, was a massive thing for her to do.
That was not an easy decision to make.
It was going to be full of crazy noise and crazy smells and all the things that Vegas is, is an overwhelming.
Crazy sensory input.
Yeah, sensory overload in that town.
Sensory overload.
Plus all these people you haven't met in person.
and now we're all hugging and talking and hanging out and giving each other COVID and everything
and all that stuff and I just really admired that like I asked myself in my in my situation
I knew about her migraines prior to that and I remember thinking would I do this I'm not sure I would
I think I may have chickened out and she just really bravely did all that and I just think that
that was awesome so and she did dance dance revolution with me and she kicked my trash yeah I have
I have video of you and me doing that in 2004 at that cabin for the family reunion.
Oh, wow.
We were babies.
We were little babies.
And so was the early John years.
Oh, gosh.
Anyway, well, that's fantastic.
Stephanie, let us know how things go and do reach out to Wendy via the site.
And if you guys don't know what site I'm talking about, no better you.com.
Sign up for stuff.
Be ready for new programs coming.
You guys are in the thick of your time management course.
Yeah.
What?
It's already started?
Yeah.
Brian, get in there.
Just kidding.
I've R.SVP.
I've pushed so doing Father's Day dinner tonight because Tristan has to work on Sunday.
So I've pushed Father's Day dinner to 7 p.m.
or we're leaving the house at 7 p.m. tonight so I can be there for the class today.
Oh, that is sacrifice.
It's a happy sacrifice.
I'm looking forward to making it.
I missed it last week, but I watched the video up until the breakout sessions and then it just went dark for 20 minutes.
Did it really?
Did it really go dark?
Yeah.
Well, it didn't go dark, but it showed like who was in each breakout session,
but I didn't get any audio from any of the breakout sessions.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm going to do it this time where I talk during that part so people can watch that.
And then it comes back.
It comes back.
It comes back.
It comes back.
I just didn't.
For 20 minutes, you just twiddle your thumbs.
Sometimes, I'm sure.
I wish there was a way for me in a video to fast forward.
That's right.
Just sit there and twiddle your thumbs and meditate.
You're always saying we should meditate, take time for ourselves.
so there we're going to. Can I give you guys like a happy thought real quick?
Do it. Of course.
This, whatever you just said reminds me of this. Yes, everyone go to No Better You and give me your email.
Okay. The sub-peed's going to a little camp this next week.
Fun. He got his packing list. His packing list said, no phones. No MP3 players.
And like no iPod shuffles or something. And we were laughing so hard. Like they just have not
updated. How old is that list?
I know. It was making us laugh.
And Pete is a collector of old things. Let me just say that.
And he has a record player and he's like, mom, please let me bring my record player.
And I'm 100% for it.
Yeah, it doesn't say it can. That's great.
Is we own two records.
And just the, the, I got to, I have to look it up because I'm going to say it wrong.
um okay the song big iron on his hip by marty robins love that song yeah we have that record and then
the other one is depeshmo what is the what's the big the some great reward or uh oh the violator
violator probably yeah yeah yeah and so he's going to uh yeah it's violator and he is going to
just he goes what if i can get all the guys to dance
I'm just imagining Depeche mode on this record.
Screaming personal, personal Jesus at the top of his lungs.
That's fantastic, dude.
That's what we're doing here.
I already liked Pete, but I like him even more.
All right, awesome.
We'll have a fantastic week.
I know you're going to be here in a few weeks.
Yeah, two weeks?
Two weeks, yeah.
Two weeks, yeah.
When you'll be here for a bit, for, you know, visiting family, seeing both sides, right?
You get a lot to do while you're here.
going to be fun. We always, we always do.
Yeah. But we look forward to it. And
thanks for hanging with us today as usual. It's
Wendy. Find her at no better you.com, everybody.
Wendy, have a good one. We'll see you next time.
All righty. Brian, we have done it.
Let us, oh, I have to
okay, she left herself. That's
that network. She left herself.
It's kind of nice. Yeah, she left herself. She's now
floating above her body. Soon she'll be back in.
It's like Dr. Strange
and the, you know, she's on the astral plane now,
fighting Darmamu.
I'm coming to negotiate.
The multiverse of sadness is where she is right now.
The multiverse of therapy.
There you go.
Hey, we're done, everybody.
That's the show.
Reminders.
Coverville around three or four.
Brian will let you know, get in there, sign up at Twitch.tv slash coverville.
Then you'll find out when he goes live.
Already 81 degrees.
So, I mean, it's, you know, I'm getting in when the getting's good.
But it's good practice.
It's not like, I'm very.
for it to be cool weather on the 28th.
No.
Like, it's going to be hot.
Yep.
No guaranteeing nothing there.
Exactly.
So.
Las Vegas currently, by the way, 93 degrees.
And, yeah, that's, you know, they had a low of 81.
So at 2 in the morning, it's 81 degrees.
And it'll be 107 today.
So I hope.
Wherever the concert's at, Scott, you're staying in the very same hotel.
It's actually right across the street, but.
good we should only have to walk it at night i don't know man it's gonna be hot oh so when it's 90 degrees
that's good maybe by then this because it is some kind of weird heat wave i guess so sure
supposed to maybe pass by then so i don't know man well you're gonna have a great time you're
gonna have a much better time than i am gonna be pitting out's what i'm gonna be doing anyway uh yeah
you'll be pitting out more than us that's true i'll be pitting out more than you yeah dripping
some chode butter down the bike all that fun stuff oh jeez i took it there didn't i it it absorbs dude it uh it's
like a oh that's good you get like a it's lotion it's basically lotion like if i do it the right way
i'm not just you know dropping it into my my shorts i'm like applying it and letting it
absorb and and then i put my shorts that's good nice and moisturized yeah what's wrong with that
exactly nothing wrong with that nothing wrong except for the visual that we've given everyone
uh also core today at 1 p.m we'll start then and hopefully not go until the end of time
uh there's a lot to sum up though because last week was all that game announcement
stuff. We got a new handheld for Microsoft. We got a Switch 2 launch. We got all these
games announced. There was so much stuff that we're going to try to disseminate in a
reasonable amount of time. So check that out today at 1 p.m.
Forgot to ask you. Did you end up getting a Switch 2?
I did. I don't have it here. It's upstairs. Yeah. It ended up getting, I had basically
resolved myself to be in the land of, hey, these are going to be really hard to get. So I may
not bother for a while and just see how things go. But if one shows up, you know,
get it for core for a few reasons. And also, I enjoy them. Blah, blah, blah.
and then Kevin, KT Data's out running around, and he goes...
Because he picked up two, right?
Yeah, okay.
Well, he pre-ordered two, one for him and one for his boss.
And then he was like, if they've got one here at this target,
do you want me to grab it?
And I went, that seems like a pretty good chance.
Let's get it.
And I've been moat him.
He brought it over and we were good.
So anyway, so I owe Kevin a huge thanks still for that.
That's why we took him to dinner.
It was like a, it was like a, it was like a, thanks.
Yeah, I don't blame you.
Thanks for the Switchy.
Anyway, more on that.
I have some gains your review from that as well today.
So Core's going to be big if you want to check that out.
You certainly can.
That's Frogpants.com TV when we do it live or check out Core at frogpants.
pance.com slash core.
TMS Friday will happen tomorrow.
We'll have a quiz.
We'll have some fun.
We'll have some other stuff.
Who knows what all we'll get up to.
It'll be great.
Some of your well-actualies.
I know we have a few of those.
Oh, yeah.
We always do.
And then FilmSack this weekend, I believe we are...
Starsky and Hutch.
That's right.
I watched it last night.
are we playing oh is it a yeah i know what you're saying i think it is a is it a um roundtable this
week i think so let me double check yes so yes because double trouble was last week so yes it'll
be a roundtable it's our roundtable about comedies and that's an exciting thing because we never do
comedies really not pure ones anyway no and boy i can't wait you know starsky and hutch comedy
going to be very difficult
to sack.
Oh, no, I haven't seen this movie,
so I'm a little nervous.
That's right.
Yeah, and then that'll follow after that.
So, very exciting stuff.
That's right.
And it's also the 13th,
so Wicked Kent and we'll be on the show tomorrow.
Oh, fantastic.
That's perfect timing because you don't have a movie review.
Nope.
Plus, we like hearing about some,
some gory things.
So bring them on.
That'd be great.
Anyway, that'd be what you're looking forward to
for the weekend, lots of stuff going on.
That's it for us.
frogpants.com slash TMS, you'll find everything there, except for whatever song
Brian's about to play. And then you'll find it there. But right now, you won't find it until
there. Yeah. Not yet. Yeah. Dustin Anderson wrote in, also known as PC Exterminator,
says, I know this is rate, I know this is late. I just heard you needed June requests. My wife.
My wife. My wife. Vicki. He even put in parentheses, read as Borat.
But you need to put that before the words, my wife. So it's not my wife. Oh, Rita's Borat.
Dang it, my wife.
Vicki turns on June 12th.
This year has already been a whirlwind trip.
Coming back from a spring break trip away from the kids and buying a new camper
to getting the diagnosis that some surgery was needed late in May,
hysterectomy and hernia repair.
Then finding out a stress test was needed before surgery,
which led to a heart cath with results of clearing for surgery the next day.
Now she is on to the mending part and follow-up appointments.
we can't wait to go camping later this month to try out the camper somewhere other than
our backyard no more tent camping sign Dustin Anderson screw those tents I'm with you
get a camper yeah oh gosh yeah no kidding too old so he basically said it's it's my pick
he says my wife listens to a ton of different music from 70s to 80s pop rock to current music
too so you're really kind of opening the door for me to to pick anything and I appreciate
you opening the door for me. And let me, in turn, let you open the door with a cover of
Let My Love Open the Door, my Segway, Brian, performed by M. Ward, the song covering, of course,
the great song by Pete Towns, and one of the greatest songs that Pete Towns and ever wrote.
Is that the one? Is that the one? Exactly the one. Yes. There's so many great versions of that
song and um uh this is one of them this is a this is up there this was recorded for uh one of
those weird CDs you could get at Starbucks in the early 2000s called sweetheart every every
valentine's day there would be a an album of covers a CD of covers that you could pick up at
the counter and buy right next to your double calf half foam macchiato um yeah that was wow
yeah of course I picked up every single one of these right um this is
is from the 2005 edition of Sweetheart. It is M. Ward. He's the he in the she, or he's the
him in the she and him, by the way, with Zoe Day Chanel, uh, doing, let my love open the door.
But you still can't get enough
When tragedy
When tragedy becomes you
Don't let it bring you down
Love can cure your problem
You're so lucky I'm around
I got the only
I can stop you
I can stop you falling apart
release yourself from misery
there's only one thing
that can set you free
and that's my love
Let my love open the door, let my love open the door, let my love open the door, let my love open the door, let my love open the door, let my love open the door, let my love open the door, let my love open the door,
To your heart
Say
When everything feels all over,
When everybody seems
I got four leaf clover.
Take all the worry out of your mind.
I got the only key to your heart.
I can stop you falling apart.
Release yourself from misery.
There's only one thing that can set you free,
and that's my life.
Let my love open the door
Let my love open the door
Let my love open the door
To your heart
Let my love open the door
Let my love open the door
Let my love open the door
Let my love open the door to your heart.
Let my love open the door.
Let my love open the door.
Let my love open the door to your heart.
Thank you.
Roses are red, and I love to dance.
When I'm looking for great shows, I go to frogpans.com.
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