The Morning Stream - TMS 2843: Icee Why You Like It

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Drat Vahder. The Spirit of K-Mart. I Don't Like Iceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! 1... 2... Krug is Coming for You. Antant. Draw Me with a Thicker Center Tentacle. Homophobia Zero. Hawk Milk. Keep An Eye on ...Your Tea Stain. Weird Meat Rollin'. House-Brand Sugar Drink. Business raccoon fleeing mule. The Podcast Boys! Banana ball coming to a city near you. Dan has gone away with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ever find something under your pillow that you didn't expect to be there? We have, and that's why it's important to have this nonsense into encouraging you to support this show at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, Drat Vader. The Spirit of Kmart. I don't like I seize. One, two, Krug is coming for you. Ant, aunt. Draw me with a thicker center tentacle.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Homophobia zero. Hawk milk. Keep an eye on your tea stain. Weird meat rolling House brand sugar drink Business Raccoon fleeing mule The podcast boys Banana Ball coming to a city near you
Starting point is 00:00:38 Dan has gone away with Dan And more on this episode of The Morning Stream Next time you're about to spend too much For an album or tape Think of all the things you pay for Helpful salespeople What
Starting point is 00:00:51 The counter space for unnecessary paraphernalia Even that very expensive sound system Some record stores have for atmosphere. You pay for all that through their inflated prices. That's why you should check out the music place at Kmart. Y'all ever forwarded in the show? The morning stream.
Starting point is 00:01:20 They're coming to get you, Barbara. There's one of them now. Hey, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Tuesday, June 24th, 2025. I am Scott Johnson. He is Brian Abbott. Hello. Hello. You remember the Kmart Music Center? I kind of do. No, I don't. So like, I mean, was it anything different than just? My memory is they cordoned it off to make it feel separate, even though it was really just part of the overall store. And then they would decorate it up to look record story, lots of posters and stuff. And then the idea was, You wouldn't have to yell over anyone. It was like a better... I'm going to argue that it wasn't a better experience. I like a loud, cool record store with all the shit. They were basically describing things that I think are cool.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So I don't know what's wrong with Kmart. Well, I do know what's wrong. They don't exist anymore. They suck ass. They're gone. You don't go... You don't drive around find Kmart's no more. You don't?
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, the one that we had here close to where I live is now condos. Oh, my gosh. That means they tore that shit down then. They raised it to the ground. Yeah, it didn't even get a Spirit Halloween afterlife. It went straight to spirit itself. Yeah, ours are all either Spirit Halloweens or something like that, sometimes Christmas stores.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And then two of them in particular, these big mega K-Mart's near us are now Planet Fitness, both of them. Oh, really? Yeah, that's good because it's the right amount of space. Yeah, tons of space. It still looks like a Kmart in the other. outside just with a new name on top, but inside is all gutted and made into a giant gym. I think that's probably the way to do it. That's fine with me.
Starting point is 00:03:05 For sure. Is it weird that in addition to all the stuff they sold there, right? Your your basic groceries, clothing, housewares, tools, garden, that sort of thing. They also always had, at least the ones here, always had an icy machine. And you would buy a cup at the register and then go take it and fill it at the icy machine on the way out. Yeah, icy machine. for the un-initiated. If you've had 7-Elevens are a little bit like... Slurpee. It's like a T-Moo Slurpee.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's not very good. They weren't the same. They just weren't as good. They were kind of light and funky. What was the history of that? Because I could have sworn that when I was a kid, 7-Eleven sold I-Cys, and then I guess they lost the I-C license,
Starting point is 00:03:46 and then they started doing slurpees? I don't know. I had no idea. If that's the case, I do not remember that. I used to get, I mean, in high school, I'd get slurpees every... I felt like every day. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:03:58 There was one we had right by where I grew up. There was a 7-Eleven that had a constantly rotating collection of pinball machines and video games. And we'd always just hang out there. Like, go to 7-Eleven? Yep, got a pocketful of quarters. Great. Let's go. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:14 They have an ice climbers, and I got quarters, and they got weird meat rolling on rollers. What else do you need in the middle of the afternoon? We would skip entire classes hanging out of that damn 7-Eleven. but um the uh icies so back to the kmart thing icies were definitely associated with kmart for me anyway it was the in fact the only place i think i could get them was at a kmart when i was a kid so to me that was the house brand sugar drink was ice right and then and that but now you see them in other places i think uh the mavericks around here that are so big now i think they have icy i think branded stuff we saw one on the way back from vegas and beaver at the
Starting point is 00:04:56 Did you? Whatever that gas station was. So Icy persists. Kmart dead. Icy still out of it. Icy lived on. Looks like, so this is kind of cool. Icy was invented by Omar Needlick, a dairy queen owner in Coffeyville, Kansas.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So a guy who owned a coffee or a Dairy Queen franchise came up with the idea for an IC. His soda machine broke and he began placing bottles of soda in the freezer to keep them cold. and then he would sell these soda bottles, which would instantly turn to slush once they were opened. That's actually pretty cool. We don't get to have that experience, though. It just comes out like that in the icy machine. Exactly. After five years, his idea had become the iconic icy machine.
Starting point is 00:05:43 After drawing the attention of 7-Eleven, the convenience store chain purchased several machines and later changed the product named to Slurpee based on the slurping sound people make when drink the beverage. Gross. so it was it was just basically like yeah we'll keep icy they did it for a few years and then said we're going to change the name to slurpy they just did their own thing yeah and this bear that's on it on this thing you can see in this picture yeah the polar bear yeah and it was the difference was though these were fluffier or more whipped or something yeah than a slurpy yeah slurpy yeah yeah exactly like you feel like uh you're not getting your money's worth with an icy as you are
Starting point is 00:06:21 with a slurpy. Yeah. I'm not a gigantic fan of ICs versus. I prefer the slurpee, but I also don't like that corporate shenanagan bullshit where they steal the idea and make their own thing. It kind of bugs me a little bit. Yeah. What, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:33 let's see here. Seven and sold a product that in 1966 became known as the slurpy, which that blows my mind because I could have sworn. I remember 7-Elevens having ICs, but this obviously, they're saying this change happened after, or I'm sorry, before I was born. Yeah. I swear that I remember I see machines in 7-Eleven. Yeah, and they still, like, who owns, so who owns IC now?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Is it its own company? It's still, yeah, it's still the IC company. Wild. Because they are in different gas stations now. You'll find them. Oh, yeah, like, uh, it's weird. I think 7-Eleven is the only one who can sell slurpees. Everything else, like your Mavericks and everything else sells it as an IC, or as their own, like, Frost
Starting point is 00:07:18 beverage or something like that, slush puppy. or whatever. It must have been some real hardcore, you know, board meetings about how we got to lock in this thing and call it slurpy and nobody else can use it. You know, we're going to get all our lawyers on this. Does Taco Bell just call it like a frozen Baja blast? Is it just frozen? Oh, good question. What is that called?
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's not icy and it's not slurpy. It's not a squishy, Monica. That's a Simpsons reference. That's right. Right. Let's see. I guess I'm going to pull up the Taco Bell. Shoot. Yeah, what is that called? Frozen? It's not Baja Blast is actually the drink itself, not frozen drink. It is called a freeze. Okay, so it's a Baja Blast freeze.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Okay. I like those. Wild strawberry freeze, yeah. The zeros are good. You feel like you're cheating. They're real good. Yeah. I like them a lot. I also am a big fan of Chick-fil-A has a frozen. no sugar frozen lemonade thing really yeah it's so good it's like it's almost it's kind of creamy too it's hard to explain that it's different it's not just like a soda frozen soda thing very very good if i go there at all which is rare i get that every time so try that next time you're in there
Starting point is 00:08:41 so i will yeah i want the i want the friends dr calhoun the frozen homophobia is i asked for it yeah the frozen corporate homophobia homophobia zero yeah zero zero show Yeah, do you have the homophobia zero? Hey, are we all out of the gay zero? No? Okay. Bigotry, zero. Anyway, well, there you have it. Let's get right to it. Brian, I want to play a game with you to start things off. Yeah. All right. We're always playing a lot of games here on the show. Sometimes. I love a game. I love a good game. Sometimes I'm a contestant. Sometimes you are. Sometimes people call in. But today, this is you. And it's a little silly. It's not even that hard. But it's more about making fun of AI, which I like doing. Oh, good. like doing that too boy the uh latest uh john oliver great great ai discussion on there oh i need to
Starting point is 00:09:29 i'm behind oh my god the dude from uh suno like so one of the ai music uh like the tools people can use to make music with a i is called suno and they had the uh the CEO doing an interview where he basically where he literally says well people just don't like making music it's too hard there's a lot to work involved you have to learn an instrument it's like oh dude no they have it backwards yeah i think people like making music i see a lot of bands performing that you know seem to enjoy what they're doing i've heard the same thing from generative ai art stuff where they say well people are tired of all the time it takes to draw our paint no they're not no they're not no we want you to do our math our accounting our bullshit work that we don't like doing so that we have more time to do these things right
Starting point is 00:10:20 write me a privacy policy AI. That's what I need you for. They have it. Give me a privacy policy for my website. They have it so backwards. I don't know why they... I don't know why they... I mean, maybe that's how they have to sell it. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And it really just feels like he's trying to convince people that people don't like making music. Yeah, that's annoying. He can die in a fire. Maybe not. All right. So here is our fun game. Brian, I'm going to put up on the screen. Let's see if I can do this without screwing up here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:49 as you can see we have an image now this is a villains these are I knew that was going to happen these are now for those are homelessing apologies this being so visual but I think we can still convey what's going on here we have an AI generated grid of
Starting point is 00:11:03 nine villains that are supposedly the best villains according to AI right now they're not labeled bug shots yeah and they're we're going to label them or we're going to let Brian label them one by one and then we're going to tell you what AI labeled them oh great
Starting point is 00:11:19 Okay. Awesome. So it's not just Darth Vader. AI labeled it something different. Correct. So that one seems obvious. Darth Vader, right? Darth Vader. So let's find out what Top Left actually is, according to AI. Drat Vodar.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Vodder. Vodder. Is that an H? Vodder. Drat Vodder. Drat Vodder. Yeah, Drat Vodder. I'm loving this. Okay. Number two, who would you say that is? I'm going to guess that that's the Joker, the Waukeen Phoenix version of the Joker. Let's see if he's correct.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Oh, it's just joke. joke it's joke all right well done by the way again this is just AI pooping out names this is not me I'm not faking this is what it did I mean I'm thinking number three is supposed to be Voldemort but it also could be Sadler's death from the second Bill and Dead movie oh that's what it reminded me of that was bugging me last night I was like damn it you're either not pale enough or you're too pale or you look like the emperor at a younger age and Star Wars you have too much nose. Yeah, but I think you're right about Voldemort.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Let's see what the computer says. Lorre Volmore. So, Lorvalmore. You were really close, Brian, but sorry, the computer is spoken. Darn it. Okay, so let me see if I can guess the AI name for the next one. Is it Haminal Vector? Haminal Vector.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So for those are homes, this is supposed to look like Hannibal Lecter. says Haminal vector. Hamletal vector. Let's see what we get. Hannah Ballek. Wow. I don't know why there's the space between ball and leg. Ball leck. Ballleck.
Starting point is 00:13:00 All right. Next guy you're familiar with. Who would you say here? Center square. Thanos. But let's say AI is going to call him think. Thank. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Let's find out. Phonos. Phonos. It's closer. It's closer. It's closer. Close. It's only one letter off. It's not bad. Yeah, not bad.
Starting point is 00:13:20 All right. Next up, we have what looks like, Freddy Kruger. Who would you say to think that's going to be? A.I. is going to call him Farty Krieger. Let's find out. Frederick Krug. Frederick Krug. I don't know why that one's so funny. I love it, though.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Can you imagine that movie they're going, oh, no, you know, Frederick Krug, the parents killed Frederick Krug back in the day. One, two, Krug, Krug, coming for you. Oh, my gosh, it's going to kill me. All right. Next up, who looks like Michael Myers. Mike Myers. Yes, I'm going to say it's, uh, they'll call that one Dana Carvey.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Dana Carvey, the survey says, Johann Kramer. Yohan Kramer or Kramer. Oh, no. Johann Kramer with a knife. Shit. Oh, that's not good. It's Johann's mom. Now we have a very uncanny,
Starting point is 00:14:16 Torrible. sugar i know it i mean that's it's it is like um i don't like it is a very disturbing uh anton sugar it's like three people mushed together i don't like it but anyway we think it's anton sugar who do you think they're going to call them though let's see uh imitation sweetener let's find out who that is it is antant sugar shigrew oh shigrew which is yeah how sugar is really C-H-I-G-U-R, so... Ant-A-T-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-ha. All right, last one looks like Jason, the hockey mask, all that.
Starting point is 00:14:55 If you had to guess what Jason Vorhe's name is, what would you say? Does he have a Mohawk? Is that a... I don't know what that's... That's a strap, but it looks like a mohawk. I don't know what... Yeah. Why is Johann Kramer so far off from Mike Myers?
Starting point is 00:15:12 I don't know. That's what worries me about Jason Voorhees. Is it going to be like... You know, it's a good point, because the rest of these least have one or two similarities. Yeah. But Johann Kramer. It's so far off. Michael Myers, Johann Kramer?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I mean, what the hell. Shuck Plunt. All right, let's find out what he is. His name is Jason Voree. Voree. Anyway, how fun is this? That's great. I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I saw this and just went. Oh, we're doing this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, why wouldn't we be doing this? Too freaking funny. Yeah. Drat Vodder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Hi, I'm Drat Votter. And I'm here to... I am your Vodder. You know, you misunderstood me. I just said I'm Drette Votter. I did not say I'm your father. I'm Drat Vodder. And I think we did a good enough job for the audio listeners to sort of describe what we saw.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, for sure. For sure. Sorry, everyone. That was so visual. We hope the chat room enjoyed it. Oh, my God. All right. We have a reiteration to make.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I think in public. This was only given to patrons. So we're going to read this text, and then Brian can explain. Here's what we got from Darcy in Phoenix, Arizona. Somehow, in a 117 degree weather, she was able to type this out on her hot keyboard. I have to, I snorted there. I don't know why. I have to correct Brian on the lactose intolerance thing he was talking about on a recent show.
Starting point is 00:16:33 He said the guy at the dairy told him that the pasteurization process kills off the lactase in milk, causing people to not be able to process the lactose. Lactase is not natural. naturally occurring in milk, therefore pasteurization can destroy it. I think the dairy farmer was just trying to hawk his milk. Now, I just want to pause and say how much I love the phrase, hawk your milk. That's great. Hockin your milk.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Hock, milky. Yeah, hawk milky. Love the show, though. Excuse me while I go and test the ship's phaser, she says. So, Brian, we kind of, we knew this. Yeah, we, yeah, because I did between the trip to the dairy and the next episode after, like the episode I talked about it and then the next episode I already talked about how
Starting point is 00:17:16 you know I did some research and found okay it's your small intestine that generates the lactase enzyme and that's actually what does it so yes the kid got wrong and by the way he's definitely not a dairy farmer he is a teenage kid that
Starting point is 00:17:31 was spouting off his what he thinks he learned and I'm guessing that it was like a game of telephone where maybe the farmer told him one thing and he interpreted it and reiterate it his own way. Sure. But, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Thank you, Darcy. And if you become a patron, then you would have heard me go into much more detail about what I learned about the lactase enzyme and the ability for you to jumpstart your system. Like we, as adults, we stop producing lactase, the enzyme, because as kids, we drink a lot of milk. We don't drink it as much as we grow old. and so our body stops producing it,
Starting point is 00:18:12 and that's what causes intolerance. But if you start drinking, you know, milk with lactose. Do it more regularly, right? More regularly, you can jumpstart. I found out you can jumpstart your system into producing the enzyme again. So if you're lactose intolerant and you're really upset about it,
Starting point is 00:18:31 then drink a lot of milk and you can, you might, it wasn't a guaranteed thing. It was the FDA that says it's been shown to jumpstart lactase enzyme production. Yeah, this is how it works for when men hit a stage where they get low testosterone, the idea is you can jumpstart the testosterone or in some cases it doesn't work
Starting point is 00:18:48 and you just have to keep taking testosterone. So it kind of like that. You want your body to do it if you can, but sometimes it can't. Also, now we have a new thing to watch for today. While Brian was talking, I sipped my tea and I spilled it right here. Oh, yeah, look at that. Nice.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Now, this is going to probably dry just fine because it's clear. Sure. But let's keep an eye on it, chat. Let's keep eye on this. You know? Uh, see, do we have a, do we have a guess as to what time the, the spot will be fully, fully gone? I'm going to guess 9.55 it will be, uh, you will not be able to see it at all, even faintly.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I'll take the under on that. I'm going to say in seven minutes, which would put it at 9.45. That's actually pretty smart. Even 945. Given the current dry climate here, it's probably the way to go. You probably are going to be right. I'll bet I overshot. But let's find out. Uh, stay tune for more and hawk your milk all right everybody hawk your milk that's right uh lydia called in with a comment about brioche brioche oh yeah right because she had sent in the the pronunciation for it did somebody else send in the uh i can't remember it was her saying we were saying it wrong or somebody somebody messaged us and said we were saying brioche wrong something like bryoshi that yeah i can't remember rashi or something but now we have an actual call from lydia and lydia
Starting point is 00:20:05 dear lydia says how's that song go lydia lydia lydia lydia have you met lydia Lydia, Lydia, the tattooed lady. That's right. She drank the milk sweetener thing and couldn't understand what she was so sick. And then Walter White called her and said, hey, you took the poison. All right, here we go. That's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:21 That's it. Perfect. It's a bit of a spoiler. Here we go. Hi, guys, this is Lydia. Yeah, Lydia, the tattooed lady. I got that sung to me all the time growing up or forever, I guess. Anyway, you're right.
Starting point is 00:20:32 It is brioche. I just was trying to sound it out so you'd say the sh at the end. And it's svoiadella. So enjoy some svoyadella. and try somebody else someday, and thanks for everything. Sporia. I can't do the other one. Sviotella.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Svoiata. Svoiata. Svoiata. There you go. Svoiata. Sounds like an Eastern European crime family, doesn't it? The Sfoyatillas are going to be pissed after they see what we did to their drugs. We don't want to initiate a war with the Svoyatellas, so play nice.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Play nice in there. The original track suit mafia, man. That's what they sound like. That's right. Exactly, yes. Well, thank you, Lydia, for calling in, and I hope your tattooedness stays a lady like or something. I'm reading a book right now about a lady who's tattooed. All her tattoos are warnings in every language possible. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:21:27 All over her body, like almost blackening her skin to the point of, you know, she's just every square. You know, you see people with like the full sleeves and everything. It's like that with tattoos, but they're all warnings. and it's because she's a werewolf and you have to and it's to warn everybody. She's not worrying people about the dangers of getting a tattoo in a unlicensed
Starting point is 00:21:50 clinic. She's a Viking not Viking I guess Norse a werewolf and in this story werewolves come in different sizes and impacts and some of them are kind of weanies like they don't really care they're like
Starting point is 00:22:06 having puppies or something like who cares but when you hear there's one from from Norway coming, everyone runs. It's like the scariest thing. It's such a good book. I'm enjoying the living hell out of this book. Those are the worst werewolves. Oh, they're the worst.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I like her, werewolves. They're the best. How is Anton Sugar, by the way? I mean, I think Anton Sugar is a great villain. But if you're going to come up with the nine worst villains. I agree. It's a little weird. You know, Darth Vader?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Absolutely. Voldemort, sure. Hannibal Lecter, absolutely. Jason and Freddie and Michael Myers. Great, absolutely. But I feel like who do we put in place of Anton Sugar as a much more villainous villain. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I mean, he's a, he's actually inspires more fear in some people because he's close to real. He's not that, he's not like a fantasy character. Sure, sure. So that's probably part of it. But why it's in the same list, I don't know. Like you've got a lot of really fictitious characters here and then you have him who's fictitious,
Starting point is 00:23:08 but close to some level of reality. I suppose Hannibal Lecter sort of is that. Sort of. Yeah. Later, he got a little... A little fantastic. Yeah. I mean, if you stop it,
Starting point is 00:23:20 you stop it... Oh, Sauron is a good one. Oh, Sauron might have been good, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about Kahn? Jay says Chucky? No, no dolls.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Oh, Pennywise is not bad. Penny wise is okay sure yeah yeah I mean this is what AI thought so oh blowfeld yeah blowfell's not bad who's penny who's penny jinks penny penny penny I think penny wise he was starting to write oh and then I said well Trump sure yeah why not joker was on there um he was called joke on the list joke yes uh Dr doom's not bad not bad very comic specific though Yeah, see, that one, we don't yet have the, what the MCU appearance of Dr. Doom is going to look like. Anything's better than the angry blogger, though. Oh, my gosh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Anything, guys. Anything you do. Whatever you do, well, we know what you're going to do. But whatever you do with Iron Man guy, Tony Stark, alternative reality, whatever, it's all going to be better. You know, people are concerned about that. I'm like, just remember what we've had. yeah yeah just remember right exactly and there's no dr doom in this thing coming up first steps anyway i don't think i'm gonna predict a stinger yeah oh yeah yeah gotta be yeah but i feel like that's where
Starting point is 00:24:47 we're gonna get it um checking in on the stain we're starting to fade oh look at that still this is almost like your little LED uh oh yeah except it's all going to be in one show instead of like eight weeks or whatever that was we're about to hit 945 we're about a minute And that stain shows no sign of disappearing. All right. We'll see what happens after the news. It's time for the news. Brought to you by, Brian.
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Starting point is 00:26:31 She's in better shape at her age than Vince Neal is 20 years ago. That's right. And you can understand what she's singing too. That guy's losing it. All right. Let's get to some headlines here. Kentucky man. We have any Kentucky listeners?
Starting point is 00:26:49 I know we do. We have some. Yeah. Kentucky, this is for you. All right? We're talking about your home state here. Kentucky man arrested for releasing a raccoon into a business months after fleeing police on a mule. Wow. Oh, there's so much.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's a mouthful. So much to unpack just from the headline. Releasing a raccoon into a business, months after fling police on a mule. Okay. I love that they threw that mule part in there because it probably doesn't even matter at this point. He's just, it's basically like saying he's wanted on other charges, but they went ahead and made sure we knew that he fled, not in a car, not in a truck, not on a plane, not on a boat, but on a mule. I mean, I feel like on foot would be better than on a mule. 92. Mules are slow. Like there's no, no, yeah, there's no benefit to the mule
Starting point is 00:27:35 unless you have a lot of stuff you need to pack and carry to get away from police. Now, here's a question we'll probably get well actually is about. Isn't it that donkeys can reproduce, mules are not able to? Right, a mule is a, is an offspring of a donkey and a horse, I think. I think, and it renders them neutral or infertile, not neutral. Exactly. Cheryl Bohannon in our chat room says, I live in this town. It's been hilarious. So this is, you live in this Murray, Kentucky, apparently. Yeah, we got a town here called Murray. So that's cool. A man named Murray, Kentucky. Or not a man name. She says he did the mule twice. Now has let the raccoon go in our local taco restaurant. It's been an employee.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Oh my gosh. That's the story, I think. I think of it is the story. Yeah. Cheryl, you know all about this. Also, I've never seen her in the chat before. Welcome to the chat room. Yeah, welcome. I'm glad it took this. story to get you yeah maybe she's always in there lurking but she doesn't say anything oh my gosh i think that state nope still barely there whoops right oh yeah i can still see it barely there we're getting there though you know what your your prediction of 950 something what was it 95 95 might might come true i might get lucky not that i'm used to clocking how long stains take to drive but you know anyway the uh here's how this goes the police department in murray there
Starting point is 00:28:57 responded to a call that a person had intentionally released a raccoon in an open business and then had left the scene, fled after that. Just went, whoop, get in there, Bucky, and then took off. Hopefully not on a mule this time. No, not this time. Soon after officers initiated a traffic stop on Jonathan Mason, age 40, according to police, he refused to roll down his window or exit his vehicle. Officers physically removed Mason from the vehicle.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Investigators learned that the raccoon was released into the business, into the business bit a person. Oh, got it. The raccoon that was released into the business. Bit a person. It's a little weird way that's running. Mason was previously warned that he would not be allowed on the property of the business. Mason was arrested in charge with assault second degree, criminal trespassing, third degree, resisting arrest and failure of, see, failure of owner to maintain required insurance first defense.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Put that in your cheese and melt it. Yeah. He was lodged in the Callaway County Jail. Who wrote this? He lodged in the Calaway County Jail. Like a sweet little old British lady write this or what? He was currently living in a suite at the Calloway County Jail. Yeah. Assault. Assault second degree.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Criminal trespassing, third degree. We usually say third degree trespassing. We don't bottle with this. This is seriously written by somebody who doesn't live here. Anyway. In December, they responded to a local bar after an unruly individual. Turns out to be the same guy who had been asked leave and refusing to do so they found him outside the business on the influence of alcohol it was
Starting point is 00:30:28 that event that he fled on donkey erron mule a a a uh a mule that could not produce off that's right um by the way uh Cheryl said they've made shirts with the raccoon on it I'm going to pull uh well let's have a look see I thought I could find it I've not found it yet here um I'm looking but uh she says I'm a patron. Love you all. You're my podcast boys. Aw. That was nice. I've never been called podcast boy before. Yeah. I don't know what to do with that. I'm going to...
Starting point is 00:31:04 The podcast boys. I'll make a t-shirt of that. I'd feel gross wearing that, though. It'd be weird. What's that a raccoon t-shirt? No, no, no, I'd wear that. I'd just don't want to wear a podcast boy. Oh, podcast boys. Yeah. No, me neither. Enough that. Sorry, I've been looking. Wow. I found a
Starting point is 00:31:22 I found a a t-shirt with a raccoon in a slushy, oddly enough. Oh my gosh, really? Yeah, yes, but not the... I mean, that alone needs its own story. Kind of does, yes. Wild.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah, we'll have to... Oh, yeah. After all this talk about slushies. I know, it's really weird. Oh, my gosh. If anyone can find the Murray Kentucky raccoon, is it murray county i'm going to see if i can let me tell you what bugs me about that shirt
Starting point is 00:31:54 yeah i don't mind the slushy i don't like the backwards ease and beer don't like it no sir i don't oh yeah yeah i don't looks like the word book but they didn't close the zero or the o's i don't like it no sir right no sir i don't nope i'm with you um all right i am going still not finding any still not finding okay i think that somebody's going to have to send us a link to this t-shirt yeah somebody get that we need some closure on the raccoon deal yeah if you guys don't mind mine. Cheryl's nice to, oh, it's called The Big Apple is the name of the restaurant. Oh, that's the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Are they the ones selling the t-shirt? They must be. They must be, right? I would capitalize on this if I were them. Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? Like, there's the Big Apple Grill in Murray, Kentucky. All right, let's see if I can find.
Starting point is 00:32:44 That sounds like a fabulous place to eat. It kind of does, actually. I need local, I need like a low, like a sit down and just mm they've got some they've got some fries that are smothered like covered with uh what looks like pulled pork and cheese or something yep everything on that menu is is right for today so it looks like the stain is left and i think that means bright does that mean you win or is it who are we closer to i took the under but then i also gave a time and you're it's it's closer to your time than my time okay so i so that means like where do what
Starting point is 00:33:18 Do I go to the front desk to collect this winnings? You collect your prize of the front desk, by the way. I didn't find the T-shirt, but I did find a picture of the guy. Let's see it. Here's his mug shot. Oh, my gosh. I'll bet there's some meth involved because of that scar on his head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They always have it. Wait, did they? Oh, no. I thought this was hung up at the restaurant for a second. Yeah, that's your guy. He looks like trouble. He does look like trouble. And here's the side-by-side.
Starting point is 00:33:48 mugshot from his mule incident and his raccoon incident he's very consistent with his mugshots oh yeah a little tilt it's almost like he's like they're introducing his character at the beginning of a sitcom during the opening credits yeah i think zero haircut had occurred between i think so too yes six months that is six months of hair growth yeah he banged his forehead on something in between or or that's meth i don't know right well done uh dude well done that place though I want to go eat there. Look at that. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I know. Everything about that is inviting to me. Yep. Just Americana personified. Yeah. Persona fauna. All right. We're going to do another story here.
Starting point is 00:34:35 We got a quick one. This is, what is this? Oh, the Nationals, Bat Retrieving Dog Bruce. So the MLB team, the Nationals. Yep. Um, he lapped up pregame attention, according to the, uh, this story. He, he made his MLB debut. I loved good dog stories, which is why we chose this one.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Dog days of summer have arrived. Get it because dog days, see? Dog days. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Terrible. Uh, Bruce, a 21 year old golden retriever. Geez. Month. Month. Oh, I read here. Yeah. I'm like the poor thing. No, no, he's able to drink. He's not going to be retrieving any bats. I'd let that thing rest.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'd let him just chill. That would be so old for a dog. Anyway, he fetched bat during a ceremony Monday with the Washington Nationals 4 to 3 loss to the Miami Marlins as part of the pups in the park promotion. He retrieved bats and the last two, sorry, before the last two seasons with the Rochester Red Wings, a Washington AAA affiliate, like our bees that we have to hear the bees. We do like the bees here. I do want to, I want to see the Savannah bananas. play. That's who I want to see. I'm sorry. Is that real? That's real. And, oh, let me, let me, I know, you know, we're, we're, we're in the middle of a story. No, no, no, pull it up. It's worth it. This is detour, the required detour, Savannah bananas.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm going to give you, let's see here. I love how it sounds. The Savannah bananas. I wonder if Chuck and Amy have ever been into a game. That'd be cool. I wonder if they have. have a little let's see I haven't seen this video so I don't know how quickly you're going to get
Starting point is 00:36:19 typical Savannah Banana's behavior but um put this put it up on screen and uh all right here we go
Starting point is 00:36:29 let's get a little oh it's no audio why oh is he sends that one in a wobbly yes there was a guy on stilts
Starting point is 00:36:40 by the way what wait creeping three You'll get another shot of them. Hold on. Is this like a joke team? No, it's a legitimate triple A. Well, how is it legal for a guy and stilts to be out there? Apparently, it's allowed.
Starting point is 00:36:58 It's like Blurn's Ball or something from Futurama. Keep the video going. This gets so... Believe what my eyes just saw. Masterful. Vini! Kiss to the crowd from the Italian stallion. He's the Italian.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Stallion. He also had an eye patch. Oh, my gosh. I just don't think that guy's legal. I mean, I don't know how you're going to run to catch a ball. And I think if that thing hits one of your stilts, you're out. And then, yeah. Yeah, 2-2 guy. And then you got shirtless pitcher with a cowboy hat. I mean, I guess there's no, how you dress, no rules, right? Like, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:40 There's no rules in AAA baseball. But for the stilts guy, by the way, people on stilts give me the genuine willies. I don't like it. It's very disconcerting to me. I've never liked it. But, so these are all top ten moments. Do we have anything else for? Okay, who's this guy?
Starting point is 00:37:55 He's a magician? There's a magician out there doing tricks. You got a dude sitting around. Okay. See, look at it. That's freaky. It is freaky. He's really good on those, too.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Is that a lady? Danny Hosley Okay, see what happens here And after one pitch Hosley runs over to third base Catcher and third base are behind him He is now at short stop With one of his
Starting point is 00:38:20 He's playing this one dude is playing every position In the same inning apparently What a weird thing I would go to this game every week Oh Here let me give you a timestamp to jump to Jump to two minutes And uh
Starting point is 00:38:35 Five seconds in the video and then play All right 205 Are these not AAA? Oh, is it just a... I thought this was a AAA team. So these are just like an exhibition tour type thing or something? Yeah. I still love it, but...
Starting point is 00:38:51 Because there's no way you let a guy on stilts out there. No, I can't imagine, yeah. These are the Washington... They're like the Washington generals. This is what these guys are. Yeah, kind of, right? Yeah. We're more like the Globetrotters, I guess.
Starting point is 00:39:02 The generals are like a straight face team. Are you jumping to that... Yeah, here we go. Watch this. All right. There you go. This is what they do after a home run. And now joining the whole crew at first base for a big finish.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Okay. What are they doing like the Haka? That's sort of like it. This is great. I would go watch these guys. Hell yeah. For sure. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That is the kind of baseball I want to see. It says they tour. They go everywhere. Tour schedule. Well, here we go. They go to no results found. Oh, it's just a different link. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I found it. Mesa, Arizona, Glendale, Arizona, Fort Myers, Florida. Oh, this is February 2025. Let's see. Nevada, Anaheim, California. They go everywhere. Yeah. June, let's see.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It sold out. Virginia, Boston. I mean, there's only, you can get tickets for Baton Rouge. Oh, Denver, August 9th, and 10th sold out. Yeah, that's a bummer. That's cool. If you want to go to Frisco, San Diego, Seattle, Houston, Bronx, or Round Rock, you can do that. I'll bet I could find tickets on the secondary market for Denver, but, man.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's cool. Yeah. These guys are great. I didn't know this is a thing. They just do. So who's the other team? I assume they travel with another team, or do they play the local? No, they play whoever the local ones are.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And because it's this, whatever league this is, so I thought it was AAA. I guess it's not the AAA League. All the teams have these weird things. Like you saw the dude and the other teams that had two-toes. There are four, Joe says four teams. Oh, really? Okay. Oh, they do bring a team says LC-night?
Starting point is 00:40:56 All right. So they travel around with one. Oh, look at that. It is. It's the party animals or the Texas tailgators or the firefighters or the visitors. Okay. That's kind of hilarious that they play a team called. the visitors it's like bringing your starting band around with you when you're a big uh touring band
Starting point is 00:41:12 kind of gotcha this is so i'm learning so much more about this i honestly thought i just thought they were a weird a weird ass triple a team that that danced i had no idea about the the stilts guy until this video Travis says uh it's known as a bam bam storming baseball that's the that's the barn storm i can't read that i'm looking at um uh bad never heard of that that's great yeah i want to see these guys come to salt lake you buttholes I guess our new stadium's not totally done yet, so maybe they will. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back from said break, it's time to talk to Dan, Dan, the tabletop, man,
Starting point is 00:41:47 he's got some stuff going on. I'm going to talk about some game recommendations. We'll do a little reminder about the Denver meetup, all kinds of fun stuff coming up. But to do that, we have to have a song break. Brian, what do we have? Yeah, big thanks to Grandstand Media for letting me know about this one. This is a band. I'm sorry, this is an artist who goes by the name Gunner, G-U-N-N-N-A.
Starting point is 00:42:08 are incredibly talented he's got a big a fan base on instagram and tic talk and he's dropping his brand new album called sun faded actually dropped on the 20th so last week um he uh released his debut album in 2023 called best mistake he joined uh j x d n uh but he's also open for gwen stepani and maroon 5 across europe in the u k um incredible incredible artist this is the song art of staying alive from his brand new album, Sun Fated. Running on empathy, running up miles. Losing my friends, but I can't even feel it. I'm missing my girl, the city's gone wild.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I'm thinking about sex, but I can't even feel it. And you ride that road till you die. Oh, this is the art of staying alive. You gotta rule a couple more to feel the lonely nights. Oh, this is the eye of staying alive. You gotta learn to love the pain to get it off your mind. They're looking for God, I'm about to go broke, I'm petting on faith, and I'm dying just to feel it. My house burned down, another damn day, my love's gonna change.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I'm dying just to feed it. And you ride there until you die Oh, this is the art of staying alive You gotta roll a couple more to feel the lonely nights Oh, this is the art of staying alive You gotta learn to love the pain to get it off your mind You ride that road till you die This is the art of staying alive
Starting point is 00:45:22 You gotta learn to love to pay to get it off your mind Friends, it is not over yet. Is that all you have to say? In time, a successor will come. Farewell, friends. You better take them three musketeers into separate rooms. Maybe one of them will crack. And we're back. Tell me who that was again.
Starting point is 00:46:13 That was Gunner from the brand new album, Sun Fated, and his song, The Art of Staying Alive. Nice. There is an art to that, you know? There is. Oh, no kidding. Absolutely. Yeah, just some people live a little longer than we'd like them to, but, you know, you know how stuff goes. All right. We're going to bring our pal, Dan, in here. having a little fun with the old Danorino and goes a little something like this. Here's a tangent for him. Be careful.
Starting point is 00:46:45 May he caused drowsiness. Hey, Dan. It's Dan. He's got himself muted, though. I think he doesn't know that. Click on your little phone icon there next to your name. There you go. Hey, Dan.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Oh, I hear myself for some reason. I'm routing through. Here, let's try this. How about now, Dan? How are you doing? Can you hear me now? We can hear you now. Hopefully you don't hear yourself.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yep, good. We're good now. We do not hear ourselves. Hey, it's good to have you here, man. Happy, I don't know, heat wave in the South to you. Well, happy belated Father's Day, I guess, to you boys. I don't know if I said it as I left. Oh, he hung up. Oh, no. Did he actually just fully disconnect? Yeah, he pooped right out. Right, mid sentence. It says, Dan, the way the messages at the bottom says, Dan has gone away, it says. Gone away. It's kind of poetic. But he's not forgotten. We'll never forget you, Dan, but we will hope you come back shortly.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Try again, I'll say to him. I can call him on Discord if we can't get him through, but we'll see what happens. He will click it again. He may have gotten a call if he's on his phone. Sometimes that happens. If you get a call while you're on a different thing, you will get interrupted.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Them's the rules. Oh, yeah, he might have gotten another call. Sure. Yeah. So we'll see what happens here. If you can't get through here, then we'll call him on the other thing. All right. He says, okay dokey one sec, and now I accept him in.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Hello, Dan. Are you there? I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you now. How are you? Sorry, I don't know if I got too loud and it just kicked me. Didn't like me. Did it just boot you? Are you on a phone or desktop right now? I'm not a desktop. Yeah. Oh, weird. Weird. I'm so scared of using my phone with any of these things that it would just, you know, wouldn't sound.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Because my phone is, I think I have an X. What is that like 20 years? Oh, my gosh. You have a 10 from like, how long has that been now? Yeah, I'm just, I'm mostly cheap. Five, six years? All I do is play little apps and text people, so I don't really need a whole lot for things. Oh, yeah, Brian's right. Six years. Your phone is six years old, which in phone years is quite, it's like dog years.
Starting point is 00:48:45 That's a lifetime. Exactly. It's a really is. You're going to take them to the vet and check in on them and see how he's going. You might as well have a blackberry or something. So I don't know if I came across as St. Happy Father's Day and talking about the bananas. That part we heard.
Starting point is 00:48:59 No, the banana part we didn't. Tell us about the bananas. I was kind of surprised that you hadn't heard of the bananas because they're, they sell out in like five minutes they it's almost impossible unless you get them like i'm some sort of like promo and lottery that area or the secondary market or something like that because they are just absolutely a but i mean they have some of the coolest rules like if you hit a foul ball and a fan catches it it's an out oh really yeah like they have a crazy rule like they have the uh the trick plays you know they keep track of how many trick plays per the game so they the way they do their whole
Starting point is 00:49:30 scoring it's just it's just for a pure fun and there's all like every player in a team has their own gimmick, you know, crazy walk-up songs when they go to certain cities. They'll bring like ex-major leaguers. The catcher from Sandlot came out and got it at that one. They do all sorts of crazy stuff like that. Wow. I didn't know they were...
Starting point is 00:49:49 I want to see one of these. I can't believe I've never heard of these guys. Probably because we don't have... I mean, we have a stadium here, but it's nothing fancy. We have a new one going up, so maybe we'll finally get them. Because I'm guessing this is a great way to fill those seats on days when teams are gone or otherwise off-season or something. Well, not only
Starting point is 00:50:05 that they'll like build it into different MLB parks like nowadays i mean now that i guess it's only been the last few years there's so much at the height of the popularity now that probably the next few years they'll be everywhere you know and like somebody's mentioned i think there's like four teams in that quote unquote league because it's you know again it's not triple a it's just basically it's like the globetrotters it's just for entertainment only you know maybe they'll put up some sort of like standings whatever no it doesn't matter it's all about them making money and bringing bring fun to the fans and just having fun at the ballpark do you ever go do you ever go one of these? You've seen one of these live? No, but they've been putting them on more and more on TV.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So I live real close to Durham Bull Stadium, and that's a huge, since that's, you know, so historic, even though it's a newer, it's not the original Durham Bull Stadium, but it's a newer, but it's still like that franchise is so historic that they go there every year, but it's like we put in the lottery to try and get in there to go watch them, but it's, you know, a lot of times you can probably find them on a secondary market pretty, you know, pretty easily, but it's not, it's not cheap to go. to see them but it's but it's a blast i can't recommend that stuff enough oh they'll see night in the chat says they played at our this local park here called the smiths ballpark i had no idea
Starting point is 00:51:14 oh really i'm gonna get tickets next time this happens i know i know we got to keep an eye out for when those go on sales so we can snag them very cool um all right well a little little more info from dan there dan of course uh comes to us with a couple of expertise he is a pharmacist and not just like a guy in a coat at your local cvs he knows all kinds of dark shit about that business but he also 25 years now man this year was 25 years I've been a pharmacist geez what's the average
Starting point is 00:51:40 retirement for your for a pharmacist if you had oh never never so like podcasting you're just gonna go forever and uh well I mean I'm sure people do quote to go retire you know from pharmacy you know in the usual probably you know early 60s or whatever but you always see
Starting point is 00:51:57 you know people just kind of keep their licenses active and you always see like the old 60 year old guy working the five to nine shift that you know one of the local places, whether it be the grocery store or even a chains or anything like that. We used to always have those guys when I was working retail. And, you know, guys and gals, they just enjoy being out there. And in certain situations, when I used to manage, so I was a pharmacy manager of a Kroger for a few years. And we, you know, we had a couple of the, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday night people that would just rotate in and just,
Starting point is 00:52:27 they were just happy to be there, you know, and the people would come in just to see them because they've been around for, you know, 50 years filling scripts and though maybe not 50 but you know 35 40 years fill in scripts and just just happy people I can't think of another business not let's say medical stuff in general not just pharmaceuticals but the medical industry in general there's just something great about the comfort of going in there or to your doctor or whatever and going ah the guy I always come to there's the loyalty in that particular world is so much bigger than like I only buy my cars from Larry up the road the thing or whatever like those you can have those but it just feels like this stuff is important
Starting point is 00:53:08 i go to the same dentist for that same reason 20 years at the same dentist who i don't even live by anymore i have to drive 45 minutes to go to this damn guy but it's because i don't trust anybody else you know yeah so without like so without getting obviously you know no hippo and i'm just telling nebulous stories but uh when i was in retail some of the greatest experiences it's so hard now because it's such a fast food industry and some of the big chains of just taking all the, what we'll call it fun out of being a pharmacist. Like, you are just drained of your life and soul in pharmacy now. But back when I was there, you know, 20 years ago still in retail, you have, the good thing
Starting point is 00:53:46 about being at your own store or a place that you're at is getting to know the people. That's kind of what I got into pharmacy for is for the people and to help people. You know, you get to know people's kids. You get to know old people's, you know, all their regimens, like things they do. Same day of the week, certain people would come in. They would come. We used to have a guy that owned a deli and a butcher. He would just bring us crap, like a big bag of steaks and stuff, like every other week. Like stuff like that is kind of part of the community.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And it's just that's what it is. And it's so hard now to even get a time to breathe, you know, because you have your district manager or your regional manager or you're storming. Everybody's breathing down your throat. You got to get all the, got to do X amount of shots today. You got to make a million calls. You got to pump out all these scripts. Like, it's just not the same industry. I mean, I hope if you can find a good mom and pop in any place,
Starting point is 00:54:36 granted, I always say this too. You're only as good as your help, and every store has their really good pharmacies. So you could probably find these people in your Walgreens or CVS, but it's harder and harder to find those type of relationships anymore with as bad as, you know, we're just beat down in society. You know, a lot of professions are like this. I'm sure everybody can talk about there.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Anybody that deals with the public, you know, is how hard it is these days. Because, you know, it's all about the bottom line. It's all about. Which means volume, which means way too much. humans weren't meant to be like this. We're supposed to be a little more personal and, you know, slow down. Just be the local pharmacy guy.
Starting point is 00:55:11 You walk in there. How's it going, Hank? Oh, pretty good. You know, they say this rain's coming at noon. Oh, yeah. Better get home before the corn falls over or whatever you do. Oh, yeah. Made all that up.
Starting point is 00:55:23 But, you know, whatever. I like hometown shit like that. So I'm all in. Yeah, and you get to know people's kids. So you know, like when somebody's coming in with a sick kid, you know, and if you're in the right environment, you know, when somebody comes in, you just throw them, you know, somebody would a sick kid, throw them to the front of the line.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Like, it may not be cooth anymore to let somebody skip, but, man, you want to get them out because everybody that has kids know how, like, just draining it is, because you've just sat in the doctor's office for three hours. Now you're going into pharmacy. You don't want to sit there for another half hour. So you just, you know, it's little things like that that make your day and help to help people out. And everybody appreciates it with things like that.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, I agree. Well, that's, that's fantastic. You know what else makes a good hometown guy is a guy who can recommend a quality board game to his friends. Well, I wanted to bring this up, too. I don't know if you guys, did you guys see all this commercials about hymns and hers and all that stuff? Yeah, especially for him. Yeah, especially on social and stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And I also remember on a lot of podcasts, but it's like the hymns, originally it seemed like it was all ED meds, right? It was all like, ah, your Wiener's classic. They've expanded quite a bit with them. Now, there are some, some of these services, there's kind of like concierge, doctor services. They can't have some good use, especially, you know, if you either can't or just don't want to. I mean, there's like the privacy of it, but you're paying for that privacy. And it's all, quote, unquote, it's legit. I mean, granted, with what I do and where I do prior authorizations all the time
Starting point is 00:56:41 from Medicaid, like those type of doctors, you're not getting a script that's going to get paid for through any of that sort of stuff with your kind of state insurance. But if you've got private insurance or yourself, they're like this are good because they're like kind of the dock in the sky. You may have like a five or 10 minute consultation if that, you know, maybe one on one on your phone to talk to them. And you're usually filling out a questionnaire and stuff. some of these kind of services can be a little Fagasy, but for the most part, they're getting everything they need to get you prescribed. Now, what Hymns also expanded to things like weight loss and to hair loss and things like that,
Starting point is 00:57:11 and skin care and things like that. And hers has similar things, you know, I'm pretty sure they've kind of gotten into kind of some of the menopause and things like that, you know, as far as those type of meds. But the big news yesterday was that Novo Nordisk has severed their ties with Hems, which was kind of an interesting thing. So they were basically, compounding and kind of dispensing kind of things like Wagovi and somagletide, those type of drugs where they would compound them with
Starting point is 00:57:38 the permission of Novo and that's kind of how they got past some of the different laws and especially when there was, you know, compounding, I talk about this a lot, so my wife is a compounding pharmacist and you saw a big thing like within the last year where everybody in the world is on either things like Wagovi or Zepbound
Starting point is 00:57:54 because you hear them all the time with the way he lost meds. I was going to govi and what's the other one? Mnibon Javon. Manjaro? Manjaro, that's the other one, yeah. Yeah, so Munjaro is, so basically things like Ozempic and Manjaro, those are your, they're marketed, quote, quote, in their different dosing. So they're marketed for diabetes. So now the same drug, so now Wagovi is the same thing as Ozempic.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Now, Wagovi just happens to be different strengths, and that's how it's approved for the weight loss, where Mungaro is the same thing as Zep bound, the same exact drug, just different pens and different strengths. So that's kind of how they have there. Also, there's an oral medication called ribelsis, which is, the oral version of Wagovi and OZepic as well. The kind of the absorption's a little finicky. You know, they're trying to use them for weight loss and stuff. But, you know, depending on your payer, a lot of times they're not being covered for that particular thing. Now, when there's a big time shortage of these drugs, that's when you're allowed to compound him.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You know, and there's a lot of laws and a lot of boards of pharmacy and federally, they pass these kind of exceptions to when you can compound them. Now, a lot of times they'll compound them and I'll put things. like B-12 and other things into these shots just to help them be absorbed, either absorb a little more or just tolerate it a little bit more. Now, is that what makes them like red and sometimes they're red or yellow or they're like different colors, right? Yeah, a lot of times, depending on the drug, it's kind of the, you know, might be either the other fillers or maybe other things or things like the big B-12
Starting point is 00:59:21 that could cause it to be the other colors. It all kind of depends on what the medication is. But your laws as far as compounding are very strict as far as, whether a lot of times it's whether you're allergic to something in you know in there a lot of times whether it be the fillers or sometimes dyes and tablets you can you're allowed to compound that way or if something is on a back order then you're allowed to compound for that now that's when you don't necessarily just want to go down to your local cbs not that those pharmacists aren't talented at all but they're generally don't have the same access to a lot of the actual ingredients or the
Starting point is 00:59:54 good like they're a lot of times they're crushing up tablets which not may not be absorbed as well as the the powder and such. Now what happened was, I guess they had kind of come to an agreement with Hems and Novo where they were allowing them. And sometimes this is kind of a newer thing where even Lily's getting in to agreeing with Novo, where they've got all sorts of weird stuff where they're doing with with patients, direct to patients with compounding or selling them to self. Because this crap is expensive as all hell. That's just for the boxes. And that's not even, you know, when you go to a pharmacy and you hear how much, how expensive just any of these shots are, they're not really marketing them up that much.
Starting point is 01:00:28 They're just crazy expensive. Yeah, they're really expensive. So they were kind of having a deal where they were letting them compound and they were kind of bringing the prices down a little bit. But for whatever reason, I think it was kind of the way that they were changing and probably maybe even the markup and making them look kind of bad that they've kind of changed it too much where Novo was like, all right, we're out. Or that or they probably figured out our bottom line isn't enough and we don't really need you anymore. So Hymns, their stock went down like a third yesterday after they got severed their ties. But when and now being that it's off of, you know, back order and such, even regular pharmacies are not allowed to compound. But what happens is you'll see this all the time because since it went off, I think the cease and desist date was like in March for most areas where you had to stop making them.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But some places are still kind of making it somehow, you know, and I guess they're just kind of taking the law into their own hands or taking the risk into their own hands that they'll get either multiple cease and desist or lawsuits. It's because you don't want to get a lawsuit from a big company like Novo or Lily because they're going to have more money than... Yeah, they've got the money to bury you in court. Yeah, can you imagine? They got more lawyers than pills in those places. Oh, yeah. You're screwed. So it's interesting that that happened.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I mean, I stand behind, you know, always look up and you can find like firsthand accounts when it comes to like compounding places. Who's good, who may be a little, because, you know, there's just, there's a bad seat of everyone. It has nothing to do with, you know, every, every, every, every, you know, every. profession has bad seeds in it. So you do have places, you know, you do have places that are doing Fagasy stuff with their compounding, but find yourself a reputable place. Like my wife's place, they send off something from every single batch they make gets tested. So that's how like all their regular stuff, whether it be creams or nasal sprays or trokeys or, you know, depositories, everything they do. They make sure that it's within that, you know, that one to two
Starting point is 01:02:22 percent, you know, because the law is even higher than that. You can be even higher percent off, whether you're a brand name or a compounding, but they held themselves to a higher standard. How do they test those depositories? Somebody in the back, you're like, hey, Bill, come up here.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Need you to do some testing. Put this up your. There's labs. There's labs everywhere that'll melt them down and do the assays and do all the testing for that. Okay. It is fascinating. I don't think I could ever do it because I'm kind of like one of these things.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Like once you measure something like 100 times, you're like, yeah, yeah, it's good. Whatever, it's good. Like I couldn't be one that's got a do i couldn't be doing that for eight hours a day just sitting here yeah i was wondering about that because they've made it very meticulous to the point of almost it's almost untenable you can expect the compounding pharmacies to be that consistent right yeah well and the pharmacist isn't necessarily
Starting point is 01:03:10 the one that's doing all the compound because you have highly trained texts that have you know that go to specific schools or classes and such that are doing most of compounding the pharmacist is the one it's you know working with the doctors or or or actually making the formulas there's complex formulas that go into all this crap, you know, just because of absorption, especially, you know, when you melt something down, it's not necessarily a one-to-one what ends up into something else. And those different drugs are tested to see, like, what you're actually getting. You know, there's all these different ratios and crap like that. It's, it's mind-boggling. So the term compounding real quick, just for my own, like someone asked in the chat, and this is probably a good question to ask. When I hear the word compounding, it sounds like you're taking, multiple materials in pill form or powder form and making some sort of end result out of powder. But in this case, we're talking about liquids. It's still compound. You're still just a mixing house, right? You're a place that makes, that you take you multiple medications and put
Starting point is 01:04:08 them in some form, whether it's injectable or digestible or whatever. That's all that means, right? So compounding is whether it be solid or solid or liquid forms, you're basically taking multiple things. It's almost like cooking. You know, you're basically, well, that's actually that conjures up thoughts of meth. So let's not go there. You're basically like putting recipes together. So sometimes you may take like powder and then you're putting them, you know, you're, you're getting them, you know, dissolving them down into a liquid form that then you have to put other things in it to keep them stable because a lot of times things that were, you know, things that were solids want to go back to solids eventually. So you have to sometimes will put
Starting point is 01:04:46 things in to keep them in that liquid form. And then other things will stay. liquid form. And then you have other things that just in order to be absorbed, you have to put things with certain other fillers. And that's why tablets have to have, you know, certain fillers to either keep them together or get them past the gut or get them, you know, get them past your stomach to be absorbed later, you know, whether it be the coating or the certain gelatin capsules. And then there are certain, you know, size capsules, all of the stuff, you know, measuring everything out. And sometimes it's as easy as, you know, if you go to a dermatologist, you know, let's just say you've got a nasty foot fungus, you may be just putting together, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:23 ketoconazole and econazole into a cream. And that's sometimes just one to one or one to three. And that's just a matter of weighing out and squirting, you know, squirting a couple of different piles and then just doing a, you know, a little mix of rue. Pile squirts. Yeah, I love a good pile squirt. Yeah. I'm into it. I'm into it. Yeah. Well, that's, I love this little behind the scenes piece of business that we get on that world because how else are we going to hear it? We're only going to hear this from Dan. well Dan it's a fantastic stuff let's move on to our leisure time now let's move on to gaming yeah what do you got for us this week so being that 4th of july and a lot of holidays in the summertime is right around the corner I was like to talk about some of these kind of lighter quick card games and what this card game flip seven this is what I'll talk about this is one that was so probably win to spill the shars I'm pretty sure it was nominated this year for it it's such a quick and easy card game you basically have a deck that has one one two twos three threes all the way up to 12 so basically
Starting point is 01:06:17 like 1212s and on your turn and there's also some other cards in there that like forces people to take cards and stuff like that so we won't worry about the special cards but there's other special cards in there but on your turn you're basically kind of you know saying hit or stay you'll flip over a card everybody'll flip over a card and then when it comes to you you'll say all right i want to take another card or not but the key is if you flip over the same number you bust for the round and you can kind of bank your cards at any time and basically goes around until everybody stops and banks their points and you're trying to be the first person at 200 points.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Now it's, you know, it's very easy to play and you can play it on and on. It's just a great kind of beer and pretzels game or just very casual kind of hanging out by the pool game. But what kind of gets a little bit nuts is if you happen to get to seven cards that are all different, you know, a lot of times if you're pushing your luck like that,
Starting point is 01:07:05 you're not going to get it a lot, but, you know, the round will end and you'll get an extra bonus points, which it does happen. But, you know, a lot of times if you're the person that's doing that every round, you're not winning anyway. But it is still,
Starting point is 01:07:14 It is still fun to do those sort of things But this is an absolute great one I think it's only like you can find this for like 10 bucks You know pretty much almost I was gonna say it looks like it Throw it in a backpack and just have it with you all the time Yeah Oh yeah Love the art art style and this is awesome by the way
Starting point is 01:07:29 I just love the it's almost old Vegas like 60s Vegas Yeah yeah awesome I mean I love these little games You know kind of you know I talked about Gap a while back And you know in the we talked about the gang Which I mean has a little bit of chips but there's kind of hard, you know, that's the co-op, Texas Hold'em. You know, even though there's chips in it, still, there's just small box games.
Starting point is 01:07:49 You just throw them in a backpack, and you can fit like 10 of those in a small backpack and, you know, just bring them to the pool or to the beach or to Johnson's house and you just hang out and you just hang out and play some games like this. Yeah, we don't have no rules here. So you just bring them over, you open it up and you play. You try around. You don't even look at the damn sheet. You just play. That's the rule. That's what you do here.
Starting point is 01:08:07 We'll figure it out as we play. Let's get the first round we go. That's right. Let's just go. Well, and this is like another one of those ultimate Let's Just Play, because you can just play a whole round And by the time you're done with the first round You can explain the rules as you play
Starting point is 01:08:19 And that, man, if that's not a Johnson game, I don't know what is. I mean, what is? If not that, then what? I'll tell you what is not a Johnson game. Oh, sweet, let's do it. We got a big game. I got another one for you. Now, this is a game.
Starting point is 01:08:31 There's a lot of kind of computer versions of this game on Steam and stuff. So Tainted Grail is kind of a game that has been out in a few different forms. I think Tainted Grail Conquest, which was the Steam game that had is a card version of kind of almost like a deck builder like we like the rogue like deck builder Scott things like monster train and stuff with that but this was kind of more of an adventure tainted grill conquest they have other tainted grail fall of alvon now what that
Starting point is 01:08:55 that one just came out by the way so so just a quick background on that um yeah i confused the hell out of me because when that card game came out on steam a couple years ago me and beau were playing it and we just thought oh well this is just like a one-off thing didn't know about its roots in tabletop or any of that played it had a great time with it and then this last or this year fall of avalon comes out after about a six month early access period and fall of avalan is like a full-blown skyrim like like you're running around in a big realized three world first person spec in your i mean literally sky rim levels of like world size and specs and leveling and all that it's really good but i thought man what a weird spin out from that and so in my head i'm going it was probably the other way around
Starting point is 01:09:37 They were working on this, and then the card thing just kind of happened. But then it turns out, there's this deeper pool at the tabletop that I didn't know any of this about. So pick that back up where you were, because that's where it gets interesting. What I've been playing is Tainted Grail, Kings of Rue. And I think this one delivered last year, it is, it's kind of like another one of these sprawling kind of Frost Haven field games, but it's a little bit easier to get into because there's four characters in it. And you can play it, call up four players, or you can just play solo with two players. I think you can even use probably one character as well. It's really easy to run with two characters.
Starting point is 01:10:10 But the combat system, they've got kind of combat that's like diplomacy-based and then combat-based. But the way you have this combat is kind of the chaining of the cards together because there's symbols on the cards and cards will actually have other abilities in them. And as you're chaining them, depending on your personal abilities and as you're leveled up, you'll do more damage or in diplomacy ways, you'll kind of get, you to move the conversation in your way. it's really good but the cool thing is they have this man it's probably like a two inch thick binder of just different things that as you're kind of playing the game it tells you go look in this section or if you go to different areas the area itself will have a bunch of different things and there's depending on your skills who you're playing decisions that you make in the game carry over like the whole campaign and then you're reading it's just such a really good immersive story-based game
Starting point is 01:11:01 I played a few chapters it's so good I've got to just set up on my on my table and it's just such a fun game to play and not very hard again maybe a little rules intensive but they have a good tutorial to start you off but so it's not a lot a little bit lighter than Gloomhaven which I think is
Starting point is 01:11:17 yes there looks to be yeah like it may not when you open his box and get into it it may not be a lighter than Gloom Haven but to me it's much lighter than these minis are insane holy shit these minis they're so details now Lake Realms is known for that they put out some of the most amazing game
Starting point is 01:11:34 found in Kickstarers that you'll ever see it's it's insane that's wild yeah I'm I was I've become a huge fan of what they've been doing digitally and I just didn't know about this I had no idea I thought they were just some indie developer making a couple of video games and there's a bigger legacy here uh than I know and they make so much monies I mean like miniature based games are kind of the way everything you know the way where the money is because people will use insane miniatures like this and any other RPG thing you know Brian's got stacks and stacks of miniatures that you can use for almost anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:06 So, I mean, that's why when they put games out like this, people love just painting them and showing them off and then playing them. And then when they're done with the game, they may either gift the game to somebody else because, you know, you may have, you know, it's replayability for you too, but you may gift it off or you may just use those miniatures in some other RPG way. Yeah. Those, yeah, those Marvel, the Simon Marvel United minis, like with all the different Marvel games that I have, I could use those same minis for everything.
Starting point is 01:12:32 It doesn't really matter. So for Lorheads out there real quick, all of these games deal with heavily fantasified Arthurian legend like, you know, King Arthur, the Roundtable, all of that. But don't go thinking you're just going to get kind of like a, oh, a fun little British fantasy. It's like deep and dark and really. Oh, I've always wanted to play Camelot. Yeah, it's Camelot. They spell it with an F and K. It's got like, yeah, the darkest of magics.
Starting point is 01:13:02 like you're not you know like merlin's a freaky bastard like it's just cool shit that is based based on Arthurian lore but taken to the extreme and it's very grim dark which is why I really like these guys like I'm a huge grim dark fantasy guy and this stuff is very grim dark the I assume the board game follows similar vibes but yeah you'll have to you have to check it out yeah it definitely has that kind of you know they call it the weird you know as the world is kind of you know almost like the upside down as the world is kind of you know almost like the upside down as the world is kind of turning on its head. And it's a lot of these really good Arthurian or kind of twist on this thing. A lot of these are Polish designers. You know, I'm pretty sure isn't the Witcher originally Polish as well? A lot of that really good fantasy stuff comes out of Poland. They just have such talented people as far as the writing and games. I don't know why this is, but Poland, you're right. Poland is the books, just the grim dark fantasy stuff that comes out of Poland, absolutely wild that they've gone as far as they have. Chat, here's a little video of Tainted Grail, fall of Babylon.
Starting point is 01:14:04 This is what the game I'm playing right now, in fact. It's very, very good. But it's basically, I mean, look at it. Brian's like, oh, yeah, I'm playing like Skyrim-like. Yeah, exactly. Very much, very much. Yeah, if you like that kind of thing, oblivion, any of those Bethesda games, you'd probably like this game.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Oh, they're so good. Yeah. It's very good. Well, that's fantastic. The first game is Flip 7. The second is Tainted Grail Kings of Ruin. Get them wherever you get your board games. Can you get Kings of Rune anywhere, or is that a thing you're going to order?
Starting point is 01:14:29 I think it's out wide. I think you can. You could probably find it in most places. I think it's on Amazon. This big box is about $100. I think you can find it on Amazon or maybe. Since it was a game found, it may not be at all. But a lot of friendly local game stores, the good ones,
Starting point is 01:14:44 will actually purchase a lot of Kickstarter and game founds now just to have them in store because of how widely popular they are, stuff like that. So you should be able to find this one anywhere. Very nice. It is Dan Dan, Dan, the Tabletop, man. Anything else you want to send people to hear or see or find? No, well, check out the Geek AllStars podcast. where you can find myself.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And I do the Munchkin Minute on Munchkin Land on major spoilers where I like to do twice monthly news where I talk about, you know, kind of releases and such, like in different news in the industry and such. But I hope everybody plays a lot of games over this long weekend coming up in a couple of weeks. So, and enjoy everything. Yeah. And that weirdo on YouTube that always says the thing he, I know he's going to say this month. F off, you weirdo.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Don't be like that. All right. See you, I love it. We got a guy every month who says, oh, good, another chance to skip Dan, the anti-vaxxer, which is not at all. Oh, seriously. It's not at all accurate about Dan. Yeah, no, it's like so inaccurate. No, he literally sells Vax.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Or doesn't sell them, but he proves like massive quantities of them. He's not anti-vaxxer, you're weirdos. Anyway, I'm sure we'll get a comment. It'll be fine. Hey, Brian, those will be on the quickt ms.l.i, correct? They will, yes. Nice. Flip 7, Tained to Grail, Kings of Ruin.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I'll need to get up Dan, because he doesn't, he doesn't put these in. Oh, I've got them. money here yeah i can i can pull them from there uh yeah if he doesn't give me the uh the links in in the discord i don't usually do them but i will yeah they act as our little reminder sometimes when you guys discord of stuff yeah uh the reminder today tuesday the new time for at least for now for play retro 4 pm mountain time me and brian done away doing lost vikings one and two and then a quick note about the rest of the week uh there is no tms friday this week and the reason for that is Brian has the MS-150 and I am out of town at the same time.
Starting point is 01:16:33 We actually timed this kind of good. Well, technically, the ride starts Saturday, but Friday will be a nice, another training ride for me, one last day of practice ride. Yeah, so Brian will get a little buffer for that. But this is the MS-150 culmination weekend. A lot going on there. I'll be in Las Vegas for four days, or however long it is. I'll get back Monday late afternoon. That means no show Monday.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Right. Thursday, you're not going to have to do with things. thing we thought you were doing. Yeah, the court thing, the court thing, the dude took a plea bargain, so, like, took his eight charges down to just one, but took a plea bargain, so I will be here Thursday. He copped a plea, as they see on TV. He copped a plea, exactly. So anyway, that's going on.
Starting point is 01:17:17 And a quick reminder, we were talking about Dan, or talking with Dan, about pharmaceutical stuff. Oh. The medical show launched, and I wanted people to know about it if you hadn't heard yet. Me and Dr. Jerry Tolbert launched the show. show a first episode is up in full and uh it's a great that first episode is a great way to kind of get your head in what we're trying to do with it um and mostly we're trying to do some good in the world but secondarily we're trying to give you good information that you can have some action on when it comes to doctoring and and who you want to see in your own medical history and all this
Starting point is 01:17:47 sort of fun stuff so if you are interested in that during this tumultuous uh health medical health public time yeah no better time to check it out so go to the medical dot show, and you'll get taken straight to the podcast. There's also the YouTube version of it as well. Sign up today. It's on Spotify. It's on Apple Music. I think Apple got back to me. They took forever
Starting point is 01:18:10 this time. I don't know why. But Spotify was relatively quick. But all the places you get at it are there. Brian, we should probably remind people about the Denver meetup again. Yeah, Denver Tedpool meetup. If you belong to the Denver Tadpool group on Facebook, you'll find it.
Starting point is 01:18:26 If you're not a member yet, join. And You know, you won't get any spam from us. We let you know just about meetups and things like that. But it's happening on July 13th, Sunday, July 13th at 1 p.m. It's a great time. We're going to play a bunch of J. Valentine's games that Clark and Nikki brought back from the Memorial. And drink some drinks and eat some food and have a great time. Very, very nice.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I'm jealous. I can't be there. Oh, and we're doing that. So apparently, apparently. Oh, yeah, the fantastic form you know. Well, we got the fantastic formula, but now we're also doing a Superman one. So check the forum, or forums. That's what we call Discord now, forums.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Check the Discord. And you'll see all the details for that. That's on July 12th. And we're going to go to the Regal out by KT. Data's area. That's an awesome theater. And only one of them, sadly, in the state. I wish there were more because it's probably my favorite one I've been to. But anyway, we're going to do Superman there.
Starting point is 01:19:25 And then, of course, the details for our. July 26th, meetup to see Fantastic for our First Steps will also be there. So get in there, check it out. If you're a local, so we got all kinds of local shit going on. Check your Denver and your Salt Lake calendars, everybody. Bring it together. All right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I think that's everything. We should probably play a song on our way out of the door. We should. This one's going out to Rob in Springfield, Virginia, one of our many Springfields. Gentlemen, today, June 24th, marks 25 years of blissful marriage. to my wife Becky. She's been by my side all these years and puts up with all my crap. There's a lot of it and podcast listening. In return, she made better husband and father. That's how we phrased it.
Starting point is 01:20:08 She made better husband and father. She made the better husband and father. If she were a gadget, she would be my GPS because without her I would be lost. Our first dance was to Frank Sinatra's Fly Me to the Moon. So if you could find a fun cover, that would be great. If not, I leave it to you to find a banger that celebrates 25 years of marriage. Thanks for all you do, signed Rob. Okay, two things.
Starting point is 01:20:28 This? Congratulations. That's for your anniversary. The second thing is, Brian, I just want to guess at this, and you can tell me if I'm wrong. I'm going to guess Fly Me to the Moon is a cover itself from Frank Sinatra. No, yes, maybe? Yes, yes. Frank Sinatra did not do the original.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Kay Ballard did the original. I mean, it's a... I could have never told you that. I would have no idea. Yeah, but no, it's an easy guess because Frank Sinatra wasn't so much a songwriter as he was just a crooner who took a lot of standards and recorded his own versions for them. So very good. I will give you credit for that one.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Thank you. A point for Scott, everybody. Point for Scott. Yeah, K. Ballard did the original version of Fly Me to the Moon. This one is by an actress that you might know from films like Goodwill Hunting and other ones. Mini Driver. Gross Point Blank.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Oh, Gross Point Blank. How could I forget Gross Point Blank? Tarzan. She's Jane. Who else? I can't think of any others. Yeah. Anyway, from her 2014 album, Ask Me.
Starting point is 01:21:27 to dance. Here's her cover of Fly Me to the Moon. Let me know what spring is like on Jupiter and Mars In other words Hold my hand In other words Darling kiss me fill my song
Starting point is 01:22:27 and let me sing forever more you are all I long for all I worship and adore in other words please be true
Starting point is 01:22:48 in other the words I love you Fell my heart was sung, and let me sing forever more. You are all I long for, all I worship, and adore. In other words, please be true. In other words, I love you. Your pants size is frog.
Starting point is 01:24:27 You're always welcome at frogpants.com. You're stupid little shit.

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