The Morning Stream - TMS 2846: Live Dead Mouse
Episode Date: July 1, 2025YOU CAN HAVE ICE! A Wee Tube. The Snake Got Rattled. Brian Couldn't PEEEEEEEEEEEE. Human Cock Fights. Three Phases Of Vegas. You Ge NO Molly, NO Poppers & NO Lt Yar! The Water Guy Effed Up. Bunny ...hopping the rattle snake. Right Off The Butt. Fannypack Fisher Man. Little taste of K, Little taste of C. Boobyfront. I Don't Like Beaver Creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam! Paint that Mamma Jamma with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, you can have ice.
A wee tube.
The snake got rattled.
Brian couldn't pee!
Human cockfights.
Three phases of Vegas.
You get no, Molly.
No.
poppers and no lieutenant yard the water guy effed up bunny hopping the rattlesnake right off the butt fanny pack
fisherman little taste of k a little taste of the sea booby front i don't like beaver creep
paint that mama jama with bill and more on this episode of the morning stream if you continue
this investigation i will call some people that i know in europe and they will fly over
here one night. They will put a bullet in your head.
Hootah.
The morning stream. Get your bleep and tannical out of my face.
Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for July 1st, 2020.
I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hello. Hello. I don't feel like we get to do firsts a lot. Feels like they get stuck on weekends and stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? Starting a week, even though it was yesterday, it was Monday, but starting our week with a one. It's kind of cool. I know. It's kind of nice. It's like a little fresh start. Yeah. Let's start with the first. Like putting Downey in your laundry. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes.
I thought of that.
All right.
Hey, man, did we miss you guys?
But man, did you miss us?
Because we got up to some stuff.
In fact, Brian, I got to admit, I got to say this about Brian here right off the bat.
You seem in way more energetic state than I expected.
I thought you would be pooped and laid out for a while.
Yeah.
Yesterday was definitely a sitting down day, work day.
Like I could not do the standing desk yesterday.
Get the wibbly wobblis, a knocking knees.
Yeah, it's more like, you know, where I notice it is if I'm going up and down the stairs to come down to my office here.
It's like, coming down the stairs, it was almost like a left foot on the stair, then my right foot goes on the same stair.
Then my left foot ventures down to the next stair, then my right foot follows it down in the next stair, as opposed to like, you know, alternating.
But that was more Sunday night and a little bit yesterday morning.
But now, today I honestly feel like I could go back out and bike ride and even do like a 20-mile, 20-mile ride.
Are you going to?
No.
No, I've got too much to do.
Too much to do.
I've got a windshield guy coming at some point to replace my windshield.
A nice little crack that's starting to go across.
how's their window for these days for window fixer people is it like cable where it's like it would be there between nine and 12 to five is what they told you yeah yeah exactly so it's like thank you for making it so that i can't do anything else today because i need to stay by the house so that when you eventually show up man just trying to like you know any other any other profession besides cable tells you that they'll be there between 12 and five people would be like no screw you yeah it's door dash yeah you're
Your ledge will be there sometime between 12 and 5.
Yeah, it's almost like even, you know, delivery services have a tighter window, even if they're delayed.
Like FedEx will, well, lately FedEx has been terrible.
But generally speaking, FedEx, UPS, USPS, all these guys kind of have a little, there's a little space there.
It isn't seven hours.
Right, right, exactly.
That is some horseshit.
We as a society should rise up and we should take it back.
We should take back with ours.
Exactly.
I understand, you know, something.
Things like a cable installation, you don't know how long that's going to take.
You don't know what kind of obstacles you're going to have to deal with,
getting the cable from the box to the house, in through the wall, over to the TV,
where the TV might be, how they're going to have to route it.
Makes sense.
But a windshield, pretty much you know how long the windshield roughly is going to take.
Yeah, generally.
You take out the old windshield, you put in the new windshield, you put the little glue,
you do the tape, you do the whatever, and you're done.
Yeah. And then some of them are, obviously, some are more expensive than others, and you don't have to give pricing here, but is it not too bad for a Kia Soul?
It's fully covered, fully covered from my insurance.
Nice.
We get, we get, really, we get one full windshield replacement per year if we want it, but for the chips that I've gotten for the last few years, this will be the first windshield replacement I've had on the, on the Kia Soul.
but there have been a few chip replacements where they do that melt and fill deal and um well you know what that stuff is like a glue or something whatever it is yeah whatever it is but um uh it doesn't it all you know never it never quite heals correctly and the latest one kind of starred out a little bit like you know head cracks that went out from the center and they really just filled the center of it so the center of it kind of a scar a glass scar and you still have the
the star things coming out of the other sides of it so i'm glad to have the whole thing out
uh and replace matuba says it's resin is that true i didn't know that is it must be some kind of
clear obviously not like printer resin yeah yeah it's a kind of uv resin he says there you go okay so
yeah very makes sense there you go uh well that's so all right so it went well no wipeouts no
uh exploding uh people or whatever i don't know exploding people so um it was funny timing so
the first day, Saturday, get out there, and it was perfect temperature. It was like mid-60s
when we started and it was just great, hauling butt out of Boulder, Colorado and making our
way north and going for it. Thirty miles in going up this hill, up to a roundabout, and as I'm getting
to the top of the hill, my, my, it's the, the back tire is feeling a little, like you did
this kind of a squishy feeling in the ride. Like you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,
you don't feel like you're
writing on a smooth
surface, you feel like you're riding on something
much harder and you're feeling every bump. And I look down and sure
enough, my back tire is flat. Back tire being flat sucks because you've got
the derailer and all that nonsense. Front tire, easy peasy.
Easy, pretty easy, easy, easy. Yes, you got the chain to deal with all that stuff.
So I pull over to where I've got some room to
work on it where cars, there's kind of a
blind curve right there before the roundabout so I have to go further unfortunately it means
out of the shade into the sun and it's starting to get warm it's starting to get about 75 80 degrees
and I flip my bike over I've got take all the the stuff you know my phone and my water bottles
out and then one of the water bottle cages is actually a quote unquote secret door that I can
pull off and in the frame is my
tool kit and my spare tube
and so I pull out the spare toolkit
and then I reach in to pull out the
tube and the tube is gone
Oh shit! I realize at that point
that the tube that's not in there is the one that's
currently in the back tire that I
replaced about six months ago after
a ride and never put
a new tube in. So I'm like
well crap, all right
I'm going to use the support vehicles.
They have the support
the support and
it's SAG, it's support and
yeah, you can't remember what the G stands for
but I can call those services and they'll just get me
to the next rest stop
and every rest stop has a bike repair
person at it
so I can just
you know get myself
and it was only three miles apparently
from the next one. So
I get on the phone and say hey
here's where I'm at, here's the cross streets, here's the
the street, et cetera.
I thought, cool, art, we'll have somebody there right away.
Well, then one of their on-course support people comes by is on a motorcycle.
They got the flashing lights.
And basically, they're there to make sure that, you know, if you're injured, if your bike has a problem, like a flat tire, they're there to help.
And he's like, hey, do you need any help?
And I'm like, well, I got a flat tire and my tube's gone.
So I'm just getting a ride to the next stop.
He's like, I've got a tube.
And I'm like, okay, cool.
And he pulls over and hands me the tube and the two of us start working on, taking it apart.
And then another cyclist, and this is like, so that guy's on a motorcycle, there's also support guys who ride bicycles and basically do the same ride, full ride, but they have extra water bottles.
They have tube repair kits and things like that themselves.
What a wild thing to do because that means you have to be on part.
with the group right exactly you have to stay with a good cluster of the group to be able to provide
those services you can't be the guy bringing up the rear because you know potentially somebody
having a problem way up ahead it's going to be a long time before you get to the yeah he's like it's
like those cameramen in the Olympic running stuff they have to keep up with the runners that's wild it's
better actually if you're at the back of the group because if somebody fails then that's you know you're
going to catch up to him you don't want to be at the front of the group because you don't want to be
ahead of all the problems yeah the guy the guy with all the stuff to fix but
He wins. He got the medal. Well done, right? Exactly. But there's 14 dead people back there. Good job. Yeah, yeah. But so he shows up and he's like, oh, hey, what you guys doing? And I explained, oh, we're fixing a tire. And we were pretty much in this part where the tube is now inside. We're putting on the valve nut to lock it in. And we're putting the tire back over the tube. And he says, oh, man, you know, I've changed so many tires. I probably got had that done in like a minute. And I'm like, great. Where were you?
five minutes ago. That would have been terrific if you
would have been doing this in a minute.
What a weird flex.
And then
the guy with the motorcycle has,
I have a cartridge and a CO2 thing
to fill up the tire, but he's already got his pump out
and he's starting to fill it up.
And
the guy,
the bicyclist guy who could repair a tire
in a minute says, oh, what are you using
that for? I've got a cartridge
and a, you know, a little cartridge
amount to fill that up for you.
And so the motorcycle guy takes
the pump off. I don't know why I'm not doing
any of this, but he just jump right on it.
So I'm like, all right, cool.
Sure. Let him do it.
Save my energy for the ride. You do that, Mr.
motorcycle guy.
And this guy starts fishing
through his fanny pack.
And gum is falling out,
lip bomb, a little miniature
flashlight, like all over the road
in front of us. And he's like
digging around on this thing trying to find the
the little cartridge and the cartridge mount.
And, you know, finally,
finally after a minute and a half, two minutes,
he finally pulls it out.
And I'm thinking to myself,
yeah, where was that speed for changing the tire there, man?
Humps it up.
I flip it back over, put my water bottles back in,
hooked my phone back up,
and off I go back on to the rest of the ride.
And that Saturday, one of the hottest days on record for the – well, hottest day of the year so far.
I actually got up to 98, and with the heat coming off the asphalt underneath us, we figure it was about 100 something.
And I get to the second to last pit stop.
So there are – on day one, there were three pit stops, then a lunch stop, then two more pit stops, and then the finish line.
and um about i'm at about mile 65 and get to the the second to last pit stop and i watch as i pull
up get off my bike and i'm walking up to the the place where they've got snacks and fruit and
and water and they're basically dumping the last remnants of a deep rock water bottle into some
dudes into some dude's water bottle oh shit and and i hear them saying that's the last
last of our water, and I'm like, wait, what?
It's like still middle of, you know, there's lots of people behind me.
I'm nowhere near, like, the back of the pack.
I'm probably mid, mid, uh, group.
And they're like, yeah, but we do have ice.
So just fill up your water bottles with ice.
And as it melts, then you'll get water.
Yeah, but good water bottles keep them nice and icy for a long time.
Exactly.
Like, but I want water now.
Yeah.
I don't want water in 20 minutes.
I want water now.
Put it in your armpit and just hope for the best.
Like, that's ridiculous.
They should have water there.
And it's already 94 degrees.
We've been going uphill for the last 18 miles to get to this pit stop.
And I am just wiped out.
The souls of my feet are both burning and numb.
Like the only sensation in the souls of my feet are fire.
Those are not good combos of feeling.
It is not.
No, just from all the writing.
And I'm like thinking, oh, should I?
Am I done?
Am I, no, I got to do this.
I got to do this.
And so I fill up the bottles with ice and just, you know, George and I just say, let's do it.
We're going to make it.
We're going to finish this thing.
So, oh, yeah, I have one of those backpack.
So Claire says, oh, so you, you'd not have one of those backpack things with a wee tube for water.
A wee tube.
Yes, it's called a camelback.
And I absolutely have one of those.
And it is empty at this point.
We've never seen a camel here where I live, y'ar.
For this ride, you want to have a camelback and then two backup bottles.
You don't want to have just, you know, any, you don't want to have any two of the three, two of those three.
You want to have, you want to have all three.
Yeah.
Because it is blazing hot.
It's dry.
My mustache is stuck to my upper lip and I'm constantly, you know, like, looking at my lips as I'm going uphill because you're, you're breathing in three nose out through your mouth and you feel like you're losing so much.
moisture with every breath you let out. Because you literally are. It's like you're just drying out
like a like a leaf. Exactly. Exactly. And I don't know why the people at this pit stop didn't
look ahead and say, oh, we've only got two big deep rock jugs of water left. Maybe we should
run to, I don't know, a nearby store or someplace and get more water. Yeah. I mean,
they weren't waiting for somebody to bring any, right, or anything like that. Like there's a
truck going around bringing water to the stops or something? No. No. I mean, there probably was, they
probably called somebody and said, hey, are there any stops that have extra water? You know,
the first or second stops where nobody's there anymore, as they close up, maybe send your water,
you know, to the last stops. The water guy effed up is what I think. Whoever's in charge.
Totally effed up. Yeah. So we continue, finally get back on our bikes, continue on the ride and, you know,
going okay, water's melting and I'm getting, you know, every bit of it that I can as it melts.
And this next stretch is an 18-mile stretch before the, before the, before the,
last stop before the finish line.
And it, I am push, like, I am willing every muscle in my body to just work.
I'm like, given my, my legs have one item on the to-do list, which is just pedal.
Yeah.
That's it.
Nothing else that I need them to do.
And, um, and this last little stretch, this something that they've never done on any of the MS-150
rides I've ever been on is actually on a green belt.
It's not even on a road.
So we don't have to worry about traffic going next to us.
It's also concrete instead of asphalt.
So the heat isn't reflecting back on us as much.
The green belt's far away from trees enough to where we get a little bit of shade every once in a while.
But that's it.
Right, right.
But it's a little bit better.
Now, before, well before I passed this way.
another member of our team
was on the green belt
and he's also a listener to TMS
his name is Sean
and he looks down to his phone to like
see what the miles are
to the next stop this is that same stretch
that I'm on and as he looks back up
he realized there's something in the middle
of the path
and as he gets closer
he realizes and he's going on 18
or 16 15 miles an hour
and he realizes it's a rattlesnake
sending himself in the middle of the path.
Shit.
And he's close enough that he really can't, like, go left or right.
And he triggers his BMX kid lifestyle and bunny hops his road bike over the rattlesnake.
Damn, dude.
And when he gets to the next stop, he talks to some of the people who were behind him.
And he says, did you see the rattlesnake?
And the guy says, yeah, that thing was.
pissed off. I think a bunch of people had like, you know, zipped around it and got close to it and
and, yeah, and one guy bunny hopped over it. And by the time they got to it, this thing was hissing
and spitting and like, you know, weaving at people as they were going by. And so they just grabbed
like a big lung stick and just kind of shooed it off the path and got it out of there.
Probably his daily little path crossing, you know. I think so. Yeah, exactly. Just got a son
himself on the 90 degree yeah he's like what the
f is this what's all this shit
these bison people left this shit he says to himself he says
so I get to the last rest stop
after the one that only had ice
and now we get to the rest stop that has no ice
and only deep rock jugs of water
that are warm
and I'm not sure which is
worse like because now the the ice is melted
and at least had some cool water to drink on that
last stretch but now I'm out
and all that I have
available to me is warm water and it's like well it got to you know got to do it yeah and this one is
seven miles from the stop and so we you know we said whatever we're you know obviously let's fill up
with water and let's just go sure and apparently warm water is supposed to be more quenching for you
because cold water doesn't get rid of the thirst reflex or some well well room temperature maybe
but when it's like heat warm like it's out in the sun been warming that's different that's gross
yeah yeah exactly so we get
We cross the finish line.
There's people there immediately with, oh, my God, the best.
Longmont dairy, little cartons of chocolate milk.
For whatever reason, just that, like, just replenishes you more than anything.
So we totally chugged those down and then made our way to the team tent.
And we, where they had cold washcloths, frozen washcloths that I just loved.
Like, I went through.
I chugged four or five bottles of water with cold wash cloths on the top of my head and my neck and all that stuff.
And I didn't pee until 8 o'clock that night, which that tells you how dehydrated I was that I was drinking constantly.
Yeah, you can always tell when you drink a ton and you don't pee, that's a sign you needed that stuff real bad.
Exactly.
So got up the next day.
and that night I'm thinking
you know this could just be a year where I just
do the first day because I was miserable at the
end of this one my feet were
burning I could
you know when we got to the team tent I could barely
walk because my my feet
were so uh we're hurting so bad
um so I'm like
oh this could be a year where I just do a Saturday
and so you know what now Sunday wake up
I'm going to do just the first
first get to the first
pit stop and then I'll decide from there
yeah take it from there it's a good idea
Yep. So we got to the first one. It was 14 miles. And I'm like, all right, well, you know what? I'm going to get to the second pit stop because then I'll break the, I'll break 100 miles, right? Because I'll have 81 the first day. And by the time I get to the second stop, I'll have gone more than 19 miles. So I'll have done a total of 100 miles.
I get to the second stop
I'm like all right
I think I can go a little bit more
feet are already starting to burn
in this way earlier than they did on Saturday
I get to the lunch stop
which is 20 I'm sorry
42 miles into the second day
and
yeah I guess I guess there were three stops
and then the lunch stop because that was 42 miles
there were definitely three stops before the lunch stop
I get to the 42 mile mark
and the lunch stop I'm like
I think this is it
I think this is where I stop.
My body is saying don't go any further.
Yeah, at some point you have to listen to that, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So I stopped.
There were a few people who were, well, there were quite a few people who just didn't do the second day at all.
And then there were, I was in the SAG vehicle with a few other people who decided that this was for them as well.
George kept going.
And when he finally got to the finish line, he said, you made the right decision right after the lunch stop.
there is one of the worst hills I've ever gone on to the MS 150 and if you were already hurting then you wouldn't have made it and my back you the big problem was my back I for the last 10 miles before the lunch stop George was watching me and saying dude you're all right because I was not I could not find a comfortable position from my back leaning too far forward was hurting upright was hurting 45 degrees was hurting every position I was in my back was probably
some magical little space in there where it's hard to find it when it's that granular it's like yeah i think
so like the the the sweet spot and i just didn't didn't have the energy to find it so so uh well
done though i did 123 miles total and i'm fine with that so i'm telling you right now so is the universe
that is plenty you did it you nailed it you got a great haul for the for the cause uh you got it
you dealt with no water you dealt with warm to hot water
uh you know who a snake oh exactly fortunately missed the snake it was probably in the bushes next
to me and i didn't even know it probably uh you know sure radio attack so uh so next year 150 but uh and
hopefully better temperatures next year that's really the kicker right you never know what's
going to be this time year end of june could be raining could be cool could be blazingly hot you know
and as you know from utah as well similar kind of thing at uh
And it can change in a day.
Like it'll be 103 for a week and you're like, we're going to die.
And then it'll be 80 for the next two weeks.
You're like, sweet.
Exactly.
A little bit of wind came and took it all down to Texas or somebody else.
Right.
Yeah, yesterday.
So Saturday and Sunday were hundreds and 90s.
And then yesterday, freaking yesterday, the day after, 70s and 80s.
That sucks.
It's like, come on.
Yeah, that sucks.
So.
Well, all right.
Well, all right.
Well, done.
Congratulations.
another year, done, done, and done.
Yes.
And I'm going to try to not just let my bike sit for the entirety of July and August.
Sometimes it's hard because you're just like, I just did all that.
I don't want to sit on that thing again.
Yeah.
I get it.
But Gooch butter was great.
And, you know, Mike Pacholic sent peanut butter packets of, like, you know, protein stuff for the ride.
And he sent some shammie butter as well.
And big thanks to him.
Oh, one of the person.
and I got to do a shout out to Nate.
First year working the MS-150.
I walked by his tent on Sunday, like a little support tent.
And he says, are you Brian Abbott by chance?
And I'm like, yeah, he says, oh, long-time TMS listener.
This is my first year working the MS-150, and I was hoping I'd get a chance to see you and say hi.
Oh, that's awesome.
Oh, dude, great, great meeting you.
Very cool.
I was trying to get off my feet.
So I didn't talk for very long, but it was great meeting you, Nate.
and thank you for everything you do with the MS-150.
Very cool.
All right.
You want to know where I was at all weekend?
I want to tell me about your trip.
Because normally I'm just here going, all right, checking in on Brian.
Oh, it looks like he's okay.
He's still alive.
You know, that's usually my MS-150 weekend.
Usually nothing going on.
Right, right.
But this weekend, I took Kim to, and I say I took her because it was originally my idea to do this if you can believe it.
Oh, really?
Wow.
It's because I know how much she would want to do this.
It's on her bucket list.
and we decided to go see Dead Mouse live in Las Vegas.
Hilariously, the day before he performed for us in Vegas,
he was here in Salt Lake City performing.
Oh, really? Oh, funny.
But it was a better venue to see him at probably.
Oh, for sure.
But it was also the X game, so you had to buy all the X game shit.
We weren't into that because they're doing those things here.
But anyway, we go, we went to Vegas.
All right.
So now I'm going to give you the very brief look at the three things, the three phases.
of Vegas as far as I'm concerned.
Because I saw some weird
shit this year.
Sure.
More than I've ever seen, usually I'm in Vegas
with you guys and with you guys.
And we're,
the weird things are usually,
ha, ha, ha, that lady's got no bra on or whatever.
It's like no big deal.
Or the nun has no top.
Whatever.
It's like that, not that big a deal.
But we go to this concert.
It is a very schmancy.
It's in the Wynn Hotel.
It's this really, really fancy nightclub called
the XS, two letters X and
Ex-S. Yeah, I've never been in there, but I know of it and it's a logo.
Very, very fancy. They use it a lot for the EDM week and like it's a popular place for DJs like this to come do like electronica and stuff.
And it's cool because it's got one half of the thing is this giant space with lots of fancy leather booths and stuff that's like an indoor place that you would see in like a Sinatra movie.
Yeah.
And on and then the stage, which could face either direction. And then it's then after that it's outside venue.
to that same stage, which is where we all were.
This was not an inside one.
This was all outside.
So outside are all these, like, there are a bunch of booths and stuff outside,
but they're all like $1,000 to $12,000, these booths.
We found out.
You couldn't just get a booth.
You can't just sit somewhere.
They're all reserved for probably an average of $6,000 or $7,000 some of these.
The one bias was about $20,000.
Somebody told me the guard there, the security guy.
And it had a bunch of UFC people in it.
so like if anyone watched ufc because the ufc was there for the weekend
uh if anyone watched any ufc coverage
the announcer for most of the matches
was standing over there with a girl
a quarter of his age
of course yeah
rubbing all over each other fantastic stuff to see
and he looked like polly from the soprano
just old old italian guy all right yeah anyway
that part's neither here nor there
uh we're at the concert
it was great we got VIP access huge thanks to Tanner he has contacts there made all this happen
about that at D&D like he was telling us yeah I hooked up uh I hook Scott up because I know a guy
I know a lady there yeah her name was Coco and she was awesome to work with she was very nice
Coco with a K which is very cool you know one K or two so it was one it was K-O-C-O-C so you got a little
oh really yeah a little taste of K a little taste of C you know in there interesting yeah
Anyway, so we get in there.
Thank you, Tanner, once again, because it was fantastic.
We had such a great time.
But I was a little worried because I was like, how packed is this?
You see these shows, and they're just people mushed up like sardines.
And I don't love crowds, you know me.
I'm not a fan.
So I found a trick to that.
You get up front.
Oh, yeah.
Then you only have people on three sides.
Yeah.
Then when you, well, if you get right up front where we are, we kind of got to a corner where the left side was nobody except us.
And then the, and then the expensive 20K people sitting over on the other side of it.
But then there's Dead Mouse and his openers are right in front of us.
And then on the other side, I'll get to him in a minute.
But anyway, that's a great place to be because the only time you feel like you're in a huge disgusting crowd is when you look behind you.
And then you go, oh, my Lord.
Like, there's so many people.
And they went all the way back to the hotel pool part of the place.
It was insane.
So anyway, we're in there.
And I got two drug requests from strangers.
Oh, like asking if you wanted them or asking if you had them?
Asking me if I had them.
So first guy...
Because you look like...
First guy taps me on the shoulder and goes,
You got any Molly?
And I go, no, I don't have any Molly.
This is before things got real loud in there.
So we were kind of able to just talk like that.
So I go, yeah, I don't have any of that.
And he goes, cool, bro.
And then he kept moving.
Went somewhere else.
But then later, some guy touches me on the back,
taps me like this.
Just kept doing it.
And at first I ignored it.
because I'm like, maybe they're dancing too close.
This is during most of the set, tap, tap, tap, tap.
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
And I turn around, the guy goes,
gets up close to my ear, grabs me by the shoulders,
gets up to my ear and goes,
Hey, man, do you have any poppers?
And I went, I don't have any poppers,
which sounded like, I don't know what the hell those are.
Right, right.
Because I don't, or I didn't.
I know now.
You had some of the packing material in your pocket,
and you're like, oh, these, yeah.
Yeah, these I get some of these.
Are you trying to send, is it international or is it just, you know what I mean?
So I said, so he says, do you have any paupers?
I go, I don't, not knowing what those are.
And I turned to, our friends were with Riley and Lauren, had a great time with them.
I forgot to mention we were there with some friends.
And asked Riley, I said, Riley, what's a pauper?
And he wasn't exactly sure, but his wife knew exactly what it was.
She goes, oh, those are like these things, they're almost like, you know, when you're going to wake somebody up and you open a thing and they smell it.
Oh, yeah, like smelling salts, those little vials of...
Yeah, it's like that, except what it does is you get like a five-minute high
or a two-to-five-minute, like some kind of crazy high.
They're not legal, as far as I know.
Sure.
But you just like, do that.
And then she goes, but the gays really like him for a different reason.
And I said, why?
And I regret asking.
Oh, really?
And I'm now going to tell everybody why.
Oh, okay.
Dr. Headbutton, the chat knows.
She does.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
You know what? I'm not even going to say it out loud.
I'm just going to make this for the viewers and for Brian.
And then everyone at home, I'm not going to burden you with this.
So, Brian, it makes this go to that.
Oh, gotcha.
Like, loosens things up a little bit.
Let's put it that way.
Dilates you.
There you go.
That's what she told me.
And all I could do is laugh my head off and then never decide never to have one.
That was my moment of never having a pauper.
Dang, I feel like I could have used one after the, all the, the, the,
The Nature Valley granola bars on the ride.
I was going to say, it's not a terrible idea for some of us in certain situations, but this was
a night one.
Do you have any poppers?
So I was like, I don't, I'm good, buddy.
I don't have anything.
So he, he leaves.
Okay.
All right.
Next thing.
Guy next to me, super hopped up on what my friends say was obviously Molly.
They're like big rave goers.
They see this stuff all the time.
Oh, really?
Okay.
So there's like a tail-tale thing where their little jaws kind of slag.
and their eyes are super dilated
and they're really talky and touchy
and lovey or something.
Oh, well, that was like the ecstasy based on that, but...
Is that, I wonder, I don't know,
are those two different, they're different then.
I think they're different.
You know what?
I don't know, actually.
Molly and Ecstasy, Md.A.
Maybe ecstasy, maybe they're all saying
the same names for the different names of the same thing.
I have no idea.
They might be, but I guess they're really,
they're highly euphoric and you just feel better
than you've ever felt and all that sort of stuff.
Oh, Molly is meth.
And, yeah.
Molly's meth?
That's funny.
Dr. Jerry Tolbert says Molly is meth,
but other people are saying basically the same that Molly and ecstasy.
Molly's a methamphetamine.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Okay.
Well, obviously, there's a lot of people.
Yeah.
There's not garage meth, but it's like, you know.
Right.
What does MDNA stand for?
The MA for MDMA stands for methamphetamine.
But I don't know what the MD stands for.
All right.
Well, that one tightens.
up your uh anyway yeah you don't want to take that and the poppers because you're just basically
canceling each other out yeah it's a neutral neutral experience anyway mdMA says no name says
is ecstasy so they must be separate molly and md mdma is are not the same i don't know benjamin says
mdmali ecstasy is synthetic drug so according to benjamin they're all the same all right well as
usual the chat room is a mix of information i know i love it this is uh yeah well i'm not counting
on any of this i'll look it up later but
Anyway, the point is, this guy's clearly on it and heavily.
Yeah.
And he's going, he kept looking over to me and putting his arm around me and going, hey, man.
And I'm like, hey, dude.
And then he would go back to going, oh, and he always had, he did this.
I have to step away from the mic for this going to be loud.
He would do this every eight minutes or so, almost on the dot, he would go.
Woo!
Like that.
Nice, nice.
Almost every eight minutes or it was about like that.
interval and it was very loud in my ear and it drove me crazy but whatever he's over there doing his
thing and he's got a friend there with a mustache and he starts going my friend here he's getting
married in a month I'm like that's awesome you guys and they would grab me by the shoulder and go yeah it is
awesome and then you go back to watching the thing so just out of his mind and uh at one point he looks to me
and he goes you guys are making me tear up and Kim goes what and he goes I want to I need marriage advice
I've been married four years and you guys look so happy.
How long you've been married?
We're like, well, you've been married this long and he goes, what's the secret?
And he wants to know the secret.
I said, oh, just, you know, always communicate and we're yelling because we're right in front
of dead mouse is up there going.
Yeah, so we're going like, yeah, you know, always make each other laugh.
Don't go to bed mad.
You know, all the stupid stuff you say.
Yeah, of course.
And he goes, oh, man, just keep it up because you're an inspiration.
You're an inspiration.
And then he began to, not violently, but in a very exerted way.
Enthusiastically.
Enthusiastically groping the girl in front of him, who's not his wife.
Oh.
It's just some girl.
Here's some marriage advice for you.
Don't do that.
Yeah, I felt like, I told Kim after I go, you know what I should just said, yeah, my best advice is don't cheat on your wife.
He is going like, and when I say grope, I don't mean just like hands on.
the back or anything. I mean like up the booby front, bum, squeezing the bum, a little down
front, a little booby front, all that, just like all over this poor girl. But I say poor girl,
but she was into it. So, you know, whatever. She seemed to willing, she seemed to willing drug
partner in this. Yeah. So they're doing their thing. And then I just, I look at them like,
all right, well, I mean, don't say ignore my voice or my advice, I guess. You're not really that
interested. He has a kid and everything. And he says, so he's still doing that. Well, you did specific
typically tell them not to do that. You just said, you know, make each other laugh and don't go to
bed angry. You're right. Which I think if his wife were to find out about this, she'd be going
to bed angry. I just feel like it was implied and this guy didn't care. I don't know. Apparently you needed
to not go so high so far ahead as the don't go to bed angry start with don't grope strange
women at concerts. Yeah, who are clearly a lot younger than him. He's about 35, this guy. She's
about 22, 23.
So he's much younger.
And I know that on that particular
drug, it's known for you get
real touchy-feely. I understand that.
But this was like, he was clearly,
it wasn't just,
it was more like,
so he's really getting into it.
But then every once in a while,
would stop, put his arm around me and go again,
you two are just,
you guys are killing it.
You're just showing us all how it's done.
I'm like,
okay, you don't know us,
It's fine.
Cool, but don't grow up me, dude.
Yeah.
You know.
And when I left, or by the time we left around 3 a.m.
It was right during the very last track because I'm like, Kim goes, hey, you want to beat this crowd.
And I'm like, yeah, let's beat the crowd.
So we start weasling our way out.
And he goes, hey, man, I never got your name, man, like that.
And I went, it's Scott.
And he goes, Scott, we love you, man.
I'm like, all right.
Now you're the best friend I ever had at a concert.
Thanks, buddy.
Awesome.
All right.
Then there was one other guy who had no, had a shirt, a big open shirt with only one button done down by his pants.
Of course. Okay. Yep.
And he came, kind of slithering through the crowd at one point, and he's very confidently just moving through people, doesn't care.
He's not following the social contract.
As Mitzoula says all the time, he has main character syndrome, and he just didn't care.
But at some point, he comes past me, and he puts his hand, I need a thing to put my hand on.
Here, we'll use this moon.
Pretend this is one of my butt cheeks, which is fairly accurate, to be honest.
I don't have a big butt.
But anyway, it comes around and he puts his hand on my butt.
Just fully.
Like, like an accidentally met Romney brushing against it, more like a full-on.
Exactly.
That was I was trying to think.
I felt this before, but it was different.
And the time with Romney was a mistake.
This thing was like, grabs it.
And I thought, oh, he's just bumping me or moving me.
But he goes, slow.
Holy, like that.
Oh, geez.
Like that, and then kept walking.
And he was kind of looking over his shoulder at us.
And I went, I mean, some people turn around and go, hey, what are you doing?
Where are you going?
And I'm like, no, I'm going back.
I'm probably read my book or play my switch or something.
You want to go to my place?
So that happened.
That was fun, getting touched by a dude.
And then the other thing I was going to tell you was one of the ladies that was really nice.
She was very nice.
She kept passing champagne to people who weren't in their fancy.
area. Oh, nice. It was some
housewives of one of the places
parties. Oh, really? Yeah.
So some of them were famous, famous women
from one of the housewives things, but
then some of them were just their friends. They're all
kind of moms. Yeah, they all seem
very nice. They seem sweet.
It depends on what
stage during the night they started fighting
and throwing things at each other.
That's how you'd be able to tell if it's the Orange
County versus the Beverly Hills, versus
the New Jersey versus the Salt Lake City.
Yeah, definitely wasn't Salt Lake City
ladies, I can tell you that.
Anyway, they kept hand of drinks around.
We're super sweet, but then at one point, my buddy Riley, I didn't see this, so I don't
know exactly how the situation looked or whatever, but he's, he's a pretty non, you see
Riley and just think, there's a nice guy who's just, he's a normal dude.
You don't, there's nothing about him where you're like, I don't know, he's just a kind of
an average cool dude.
Yeah.
He turns apparently, and she, this lady who's been all like almost motherly and sweet and
kind of letting other people have the stuff they have there.
Just goes, whart, lifts up her shirt and shows him his, her boobs.
And he's like, I don't think I was supposed to say.
I don't think that was where, I don't know, I don't know what happened there.
I'm like, she liked you, dude.
She thinks you're a hobby.
Nice.
Maybe give her some marriage advice too.
Yeah, I felt like, hey, I got some great marriage advice and I should have given it to this guy.
I'll give it to you.
Maybe don't cheat on your husband, unless he's an asshole.
I have no idea.
Anyway, we left at like 3 a.m.
I wanted to give one quick shout out to the opener.
Callie Reef is her name.
She is, she opened for him,
and I think she's part of his Mousetrap Records stuff now.
Oh, really cool.
She was awesome.
She was so freaking good and kind of adorable,
and she's just like this cool.
She's just cool.
Look her up.
If you guys are trying to track down some stuff,
she sings some stuff.
She does a lot of her own,
well, she does her own music.
but a lot of this music was stuff she was mixing and mashing from other stuff
anyway she was fantastic and when dead mouse came out uh it was clear that he you know
kind of under her his wing sort of relationship helping her get started and all that stuff it was
just kind of cool and he kicked ass long dark hair by the way yes long she got like uh veronica
style bangs yep i see i see her right here yep okay i may have a picture r eifff see if i've got a
picture right here of her from my camera i might
No, I don't. Maybe I do. Wait.
I can't find it. That's all right.
So that was cool.
One of the thing I wanted to show you if I can find it,
and I'll do that in a minute because it has to be converted,
is you think, wow, Scott, sounds like this crowd must have not been too bad.
It was, I wouldn't say it wasn't bad.
It's just that it was big.
Yeah.
And so here's some video.
Is it going to show it to me?
how maybe not let me see if i can
that's loud all right hold on
let's bring it up all right you guys see this
oh yeah there we go did you hear that sound when i played it
i did yes okay i'll play it again this is short but here's the picture of the crowd
behind me i held my phone up behind my head here we go i can see the top of your hair oh why is it
going there we go there we go i don't know why it's so there we go yeah
it was massive
wow
and it was the only time
I dared look back
yeah yeah
you know what I mean
because I was just like
like the
the blissful ignorance of like
I don't want to know how many
like what see of people
are behind me
that I'm going to go through
to get out of here
yeah or how many more people
are going to touch my bum
for no reason
or ask me for Molly or whatever
and I kept thinking
am I some
am I a genre of man
that people are into right now
because that's all I can think of
and Bradley goes
where you like a silver fox. I'm like, I don't think that's true. There you go. Yeah.
I look like a toe with a little bit of gray fuzz on top. And he's like, no, I'm telling
you, some of these, some of these especially men, they like these, you know, older guys, middle age.
And when I just get in there and I'm like, okay, I guess so, but I'm happy and good. Everyone leave me alone.
Anyway, a couple guys want to find you and give you some marriage advice. It was good, though.
It was really good. And I kept wanting to yell at Joel Zimmerman, aka Dead Mouse. I kept
Wanted to go, hey man, do you remember calling into the Diablo show in 2016?
That's right.
I forgot about that.
And I never had the guts to do it.
But he has cool tattoos like Zelda hearts and they're only half of them are full.
He's got like a spy or one of the space invaders on his neck.
Oh, really?
Oh, that's cool.
It's clearly like a big game heard.
Yeah, like a retro game.
Yeah, he's super into it.
All right.
Now I want to talk to you really quickly about the wisdom.
of Mitsula. Okay. All right. There is, which there is, which there is a plenty. Oh, there's so much of it. You don't even know what to do with it all. Yeah. Because he's so wise in every possible way. We saw him the first day. We went to breakfast, by the way, Mona Mi Agabee, which I know you've been to. Fantastic brunch in the Paris. If you're ever there, that is a real good deal there. That's, and what's great about that, we did that at the end of the very first, the prototype TMS Vegas, which was the overnighter that the, the,
The no hotel room going to go all night long, do everything and not crash.
That's where we ended up was Mone Amit Gabi.
It's very good.
It's part of it, I guess, a larger restaurant company thing where they have a bunch of stuff on the strip.
But they're all known for being awesome.
Except the name.
I think it's Let Us Entertain you is the name of the company.
Oh, really?
And it's lettuce.
Lettis.
Yeah, sure.
That makes you want to burn stuff.
I don't like that at all.
No, I don't like that either.
But that was really good.
So we were hanging around with him and he says, hey, do you want to go see the poker tournament?
Because the world poker, world series of poker, yeah.
At the Rio?
Yeah, no, it was actually at the Paris.
Oh, at Paris.
Oh, really?
Which I didn't know that was happening over the weekend either.
There's always something going on, right?
But you had UFC, you had that.
So he says, let's go just look.
I'm like, we can look?
Like Vegas charges you for everything.
What do you mean we can look?
And he's like, no, it's just the thing you walk through.
And so sure enough, we go to the big convention space they have there, which is
Massive in the Paris, massive.
Never been back there before.
And I go walking around, and there's 18,000 people on the floor at that moment playing the first few games of the tournament.
18,000 people at these tables.
And you can see them for as far as you can see them.
And here's the best part, Brian.
You'd think it'd be loud, like a lot of talking or whatever.
Instead, all you hear was this rad, almost like, rame.
rain at night
sound of chips being moved
around. Yes. Because everybody
is playing with their stacks
of chips. They're doing that thing where they have the two
stacks and they shuffle them into one
or you know,
click it's like a little
nervous habit that keeps you from
giving a tell, right? Like, you know, it gives you
something to focus on it so you don't react to stuff.
Yeah, and I've got a little, now this is not
good because
this is still, you can hear the
crowd too much. There's still a lot of talking in that. I tried to find, I tried to find somebody
who went and got some, because this is ASMR for me. It was the most relaxing, chill feeling I have
ever maybe had in a public place. It was really neat. And so it was like this. But take away
that, the human grumbling behind all that. Yeah. And just keep the chips. It's just the chip. Yeah. And
have the chips be so far away that it may as well just be a little sprinkling rain. It was wonderful.
full.
Anyway, that was really neat.
Kevin, Icor says he can do
the chip shuffle with a two five chip stacks.
That's cool. I can't.
I've, um, I did a poker tournament.
Definitely not the World Series, but I was in a,
a 10 table poker tournament
at, um,
uh,
Excalibur, because it was a nice
inexpensive one to buy in. It was like 60 or 70 bucks to buy in.
And, um, made it to the final table.
Uh, nice job.
But didn't, but didn't win anything.
I was like first or second one.
final table but um but that is like you know i felt compelled to do it because everybody else was
doing it just clicking their chips and making noise with them so yeah it's just a feeling i can't even
i don't even know what to call it but they had you just talking about how you know the buy-ins are
like anywhere from the two hundred dollar buy-in to thousands 10-thousand-dollar buy-ins and then um over
the series of days people worked their way to the top and everyone of course roots for underdogs and
you know some guy that no one saw coming and
not the usual faces, that kind of thing.
So it was pretty intense.
Phil Ivy, yeah, who knows?
I wonder, I wonder if any of the ones that I know of by name,
not know personally, but like Phil Helmuth or Phil Ivy or Jennifer Tilly,
really good at poker, yeah.
Wow, I liked her in a family guy.
Oh, Bound, or Chuckie's, bride of Chucky.
I like Bound.
Bound, yeah.
There's a scene in that.
With her and Gina Gershaw?
Sean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so we go back and it was all good. And then I got the biggest
wisdom bomb from Mizzula. And I don't know why I think this is, I've not stopped thinking about
this since he said it. Okay. All right. Because I said, we were talking about UFC being in town.
And I said, why is Dana White, the founder of the UFC and the current CEO or whatever? Why is
Dana White such a prick? Like, he's such a jerk to people, punches his wife in public.
Oh, geez. Just an ass in almost every way. Big Trump guy. All this stuff, right? Just just wears
it out loud and he is who he is. And this is not a complaint about the UFC, by the way,
everybody. I just think Dana White's a bit of a jerk. And I says to, I says to him, I says,
why is Dana White? Why do you think he's such a jerk? And he goes, he said it in a way
that it wasn't like sarcastic to me, but he says, well, gee Scott, I don't know why a guy who
made his fortune holding human cock fights would turn out to be such a jerk in person, in a
in a personal life thing.
He's right.
Yeah.
He's right.
Your entire world is based on making people fight each other to the, to the final
moment of the eyes are bleeding and everyone's spitting everywhere and whatever.
It's such a funny way to phrase that the human cockfights.
Yeah, they're human cockfights.
He was right.
That's it.
That's it right there.
And I'm not even saying it's wrong or bad if you like UFC.
I like UFC.
It's fun to watch.
I'm just saying maybe the guy who thought that he could make the most possible money by having
people beat the living shit.
out of each other.
Yeah.
Maybe it doesn't have the greatest moral compass of all of us.
Maybe that's all that is.
Who knows?
Yeah.
All right.
Two more quick things.
Yeah.
Our hotel, we stayed in the, the, uh, TI.
TI.
liked it a lot.
Treasure Island's actually pretty great right now.
Very clean, nice rooms, all that stuff.
And inexpensive, not bad at all.
Decent, you know, decent pool.
And one of the, one of the only hotels with free parking still?
Right.
It's not part of a chain anymore, too, is it?
It used to be part of like, uh, I think.
it gets its own deal.
That might be why they don't have the parking charge thing.
I think so, because it's not part of MGM or Caesar's groups.
It's its own thing.
So we love that as someone who stays there or even visits there.
That's just a great place, park your car and walk around the strip.
So that was great.
I really liked it.
The food there was good.
We went to a couple of restaurants in there.
All that stuff was good.
So actually, huge thumbs up for the TI.
But here's my only problem.
Yeah.
On the way to the parking area where we would go,
which was also the same.
direction is just getting out to the strip, there was a lady at a store that sold perfume, I think,
or skin care products, just one of those stores.
Vinevira.
Something like that.
Yeah.
You're in a hotel, by the way, where no one goes to these little shops, and when they do,
they spend too much, and then that covers your monthly whatever.
And most of the time, they're subsidized by the hotel.
So it's not a big deal.
But for some reason, these guys are on hard sales over there.
And every time we walked by, regardless of how many times, five, six, seven times,
this lady way over there would see Kim and go ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am she'd say ma'am a hundred freaking thousand times and Kim would just like ignore her and I said on one of them I said hey just so you know like this is that I know you know you've seen us because you keep doing this to us this is she's still the same person when we come back this direction and she's still not going to be interested in whatever it is you're selling and I said it really not
nice so as to really get under her skin right so we leave we come back sure enough ma'am ma'am ma'am
I feel like calling the ti and going your rooms are awesome everything was really cool
your people were great you treated as well I love the place you guys are great keep doing what
you're doing fire that fn girl get rid of that don't don't renew their contract for a booth
for yeah exactly and then finally we're in the crystal shops food court
Lady feints.
Guy sitting across from him.
It's a bunch of bags and, you know, private, not private, what's the word?
When you're supposed to keep your stuff with you at the airport, belongings.
Belongings.
Yeah, okay, yeah, belongings.
Yeah, like nice camera bag over there and all these other luggage and stuff.
And he bolts.
We're like, where do he bolt to?
And we get up and we look, oh, my gosh, lady, lay in there, fainted.
It's his wife.
And then we find out, no, it's his friend's wife.
But he's there in the same group.
So he's over there checking it out.
I'm like, well, that's the right thing to do.
What's our thing to do?
Kim and I think to ourselves, we think.
And we say, we're going to watch his table because all his shit is over there.
And now he's left it.
And this is a public place where anybody can walk in and grab things.
So we're like, we're going to help them out by just looking.
At one point, Kim walks over and says, hey, if you want, we're over to watching your stuff right now.
But if you'd rather, we can bring it over here closer and you want to worry about it.
And he goes, nah, I got my eye on it.
You guys are fine.
Don't worry about it.
We're like, are you sure because, you know, I just don't want to see anything get taken or whatever.
Nah, it's fine. It's fine. We got food over there, he says, which is a weird way of saying it's fine.
But anyway, he says, I said, okay, cool. We get, you know, we offered to guard his stuff.
The food will protect my belongings.
Yeah. The food will stand up and fight for its rights.
Yeah.
So we turn our heads for a second, look back at his table. And right then, a homeless dude, a man without housing, what do they call it now?
Un housed, unhoused human being.
I don't know. Maybe he has a house. I have no idea.
A guy who's super disheveled. His hairs everywhere. He looked like Yahoo's serious, but in a bad part of his life or something.
He walked up there to the table, look down, look to the left, look to the right, grabbed this big giant footlong sandwich this guy had bought.
Oh, no. Took a bite, made a face like, hmm, and then took off that way.
And we said, ah, ba, blah, bat, bat to the guy again, we go, I hate to tell you this, but you know how you didn't want us to watch your table.
some guy just ran off with all your food.
Yeah.
Oh, geez.
And this guy went,
ah, shit.
And I went, well, I mean, we offered to help.
We would have sat at your table.
We're trying to help you.
She was, she got sun exhaustion from walking the strip, and that's what it was.
They were new there.
Jeez.
Anyway, it was a fun-filled wacky weekend.
At least it was, you know, what is the camera, right?
It was just the $5 foot lung that he could have gotten back to the summer.
He could have gotten way more stuff.
And right after we did that, this dude ran over.
and grabbed his stuff and brought it closer to him.
The thing we offered to do in the first place.
Yeah, of course.
And he doesn't know us, you know?
Right, right.
We could have been shafted him as far as he knew, but we put it out in the universe.
That's good enough when we walked away.
And that guy, you know, and that guy probably doesn't eat that well very often.
So actually, maybe he's the, the winner is the unhoused man.
Yeah, right.
Mr. houseless man.
He got a, he got a nice sandwich out of the deal.
He sure did.
Anyway, we had a great time.
Super fun.
rides down and rides back, we're great.
Can't really explain why that was so good.
Also, if you're in Beaver, Utah, stop at the...
Because Kim drove.
Yes, because Kim drove, basically.
Go to the creamery if you're in Beaver.
My gosh, I've never had better ice cream of my freaking life.
So if you're near Beaver, just take that Beaver exit and go get you some Beaver ice cream.
Nice.
Beaver cream.
Wait, wait a minute.
Chode butter.
All right.
That's going to do it for today's nonsense.
We're going to come right back with Bill here in a second.
And when we do, it's going to be fun because he's making stuff and we're going to hear all about it.
But before we do, Brian, let's play a song.
Yeah, this song, by the way, brought to you by Don and Tyler Kwan.
I forgot to mention them earlier.
They live in Loveland, Colorado, and really close to the path and the route.
And when I went by them, or I stopped because I saw them, they were holding up big signs.
It said, go Brian, and you rock Brian and cheering me on for the ride.
And it was just super nice of them.
They had a great time hanging out there and watching all the bikes go by.
And it was the fuel I needed that first day at that point to see those two.
That's awesome.
Super cool, super cheerful and was just what I needed.
Okay.
Nice.
Let's get to the song.
This one comes to us from which, Interscope.
Oh, yeah, we know Interscope.
Sure.
Um, this is a, uh, a singer who debuted a Coachella, uh, Bonaru.
She was part of the system of a down tour.
You're going to hear more of her stuff this summer.
But, uh, the, the singer's name is Wisp. W. W.I.S.P.
Whisp. Why are you singing like that guy?
Wisp. Um, it is, uh, her heaviest, grungiest single to date.
The song is called Save Me Now. And it, uh, it comes, not, not what you'd expect to hear from somebody
name Wisp. Her brand new album is coming out August 1st. Go check that out. And here is Wisp and
Save Me Now. Give me just one day with your face beside me. Will you make me feel okay for running
me from this
all that I've been stuck in
know it's
time for me to go
please don't
say the things I know
already turning into stone
and paralyzed
with you one of mind
I feel
too
because
it comes across
my side
I'm being
to know
because you
save you
know
I
know
I'm
I'm
that I forget
I know the ways in which you spoke to me
bruising but I need to show the way I love grows
Deeply there is nothing else in me
I'm paralyzed
With you one by my mind
I feel too
It comes across my side
I'm going to know
Because you save you.
Could you save me now?
Our emperor shall awaken soon.
Hurry, friends.
You've come.
Friends, the door of fate shall open.
I've been waiting for you, friends.
I still don't want to be seen with you.
And we're back. Who was that again?
That was Wisp. A brand new single from Wisp, Wisp, Save Me Now. Not easy to say, her name, apparently.
She's got a brand new album coming out. August 1st. It's called, if not Winter. So check it out. She's also going to be a new world headlighting tour.
And it should be a really, really good show. She also support, like I said, System of a Down. That is a song called Save Me Now by WIS.
Nice.
Hey, look who we got here.
There's still something wrong, isn't there, Bill?
Oh, my gosh, it's Bill Duran joining us all the way from the Pacific Northwest.
Bill, what are you doing, man? How's it going?
Sweet.
I am not in fact in the Pacific Northwest today.
Oh, where are you today? What are you hanging out?
I am in rural upstate New York.
Oh, wow. The whole opposite ass end of the country.
Visiting some family, I assume, some sort of deal like that.
Yeah.
Yeah. Friends and family out here.
So we are enjoying nature today.
That's nice.
I hope your folks are doing good.
Everybody's good out there.
Is your brother there?
Is Jamie there hanging out?
They aren't here yet.
They will be out here next week, I think.
You tell him, he looks an awful lot like his brother when you see him, will you?
Sure does.
You let him know.
We've seen it.
We've noticed.
It's not the big secret he thinks he's keeping.
Well, anyway, it's good to have you here, man.
been it feels too long but it's been a month
I guess so it hasn't been that long sure
let's get into it
even remotely what are you making these days
what are you going to inspire us with
we we finished
recently a really
cool project
a little something from the
Borderlands franchise
cool so our friend
Frank and Polito he runs a company down in
Los Angeles called Thinger G
they make stuff for movies and TV shows
and big installations especially for video game
companies
they are hired to make five life-size statues of the characters from Borderlands 4.
Ooh.
Right?
This is a huge project.
I think 50 plus people ended up working on it, including me and Britt.
Nice.
So these are giant figures, these statues, and they all have Borderlands Blasters, of course.
So we made just one of those blasters that was contributed to one of the statues.
We played a small but significant role.
role, which was really fun.
That's fantastic.
Of course, there's a video up on our YouTube channel if you want to see the whole process.
We got the high-poly 3-D model directly from the video game, which is a real treat.
Pretty rare that they'll do that, too, like give you assets that actually get used in the game.
Right.
Now, the 3D model from the game.
is not 3D printable.
It's wild.
The things you can get away with in a video game,
you can just have pieces clip through one another.
Sure.
The pieces don't have to be manifold,
which means they can have just empty faces that you'll never see in the game,
but a 3D printer doesn't know what to do with those.
Freaks out.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
And I've tried to print stuff like that,
and the printer does freak out.
Is it because, so you have to go in and like a, okay,
So I'm imagining one of these guns is, if you're looking at it from underneath, it may not even have an underwall because it's never going to be seen.
Like a missing wall.
Yeah.
So why go through all that work?
So what do you have to do?
Go manually add that back in there?
How do you do it?
Yes.
Well, Brittany did all that work.
She's amazing.
Pieces had to be made manifold and then blueling together.
She had to figure out how to fit a metal frame on the inside.
of the model, the blaster had to get attached to the statue on its wrist. The statue is going to have
a metal armature inside of it, but this metal frame needed a place where we could put bolts through
it to attach to that statue. So that engineering had to happen ahead of time, and then the frame,
this was so cool, the metal frame, Frank modeled it and then had a company laser
cut it out of aluminum and then mailed the frame
to us. So this perfect
metal frame showed up. Oh, wow.
And the parts that Brittany printed
snapped onto it. It was
such a perfect fit. It was so
satisfying click. Yes.
Oh, it was really neat. It was
so cool that we were able to do all this work
remotely. Because we had
he sent us the 3D model, we knew exactly
how big it was going to be and we could accommodate for that.
Oh, man. This is awesome.
So where are these going to end up
and like am I going to see these in some promotional thing from from gearbox or something or
there was an event I believe down in L.A. recently where they were shown off but I think they're
going to end up at Pax West this summer I'm pretty sure that's cool perfect perfect place for
him oh yeah totally yeah so anyway I printed all that 3D work and then printed all of the
parts and nothing fancy with the printing we just used our normal FDM
3D printers.
We just used PLA.
Britt had to cut the
blaster into smaller pieces so it would
fit on our 3D printer, and then we
had to put them all together.
And like I said, we had that aluminum frame, so
that acted like a guide for snapping all
these pieces and gluing all these pieces together.
That's awesome.
Yeah. And like I said, it went so well
because that
like the frame was perfect.
Yeah. Then, of course, like
most of our projects, lots of filling
and sanding.
To fill in all the 3D printed layer
lines, we used, basically it's
like Bondo, but it's more of a liquid that you can
spray. So we sprayed
some body filler all over the whole thing.
That fills in all of the little seams
and all of the little layer lines.
We sanded it all.
Britt also,
including that frame, of course,
it had to have LEDs in it. So we had
spots for LEDs and spots for running wires
and all that.
and then once
it was all put together
we had to paint that Mammajama
which took us quite a few days
lots of different colors lots of masking
and spraying waiting for paint to dry
what's so great about YouTube
is you
so much happens in a very short amount of time
because of editing but I could tell
that you guys had gone through
weeks yeah yeah I'll get
I'll be watching a YouTube video
where someone else is making something and they're getting to
a step that I know was tedious and took forever
and I'll still start to feel
like a little anxious for them
and then I remember oh I don't have to do that
they're going to time lapse it and then it's done
that's awesome
we didn't get to do that
that build entirely or that entire
build so far anyway is over on the
YouTube channel so in 15 minutes you can see
many many many hours
probably hundreds of hours of work
in a very short amount of time
so go check that out if you're not already sub to the Punished
Props Academy YouTube
channel you should be get in there punish props
Bill anything else going on
Any bonus links you want to send us?
Yes, a couple of things.
So I got to deliver this in person.
I flew down to L.A.
I had the blaster in a guitar case, which felt pretty cool.
And even with the metal frame, any problems getting it under?
No problems.
Nope.
They didn't even inspect it.
Yeah.
Nice.
I got to deliver it in person.
While I was down there, I filmed a couple of, I filmed more videos with Frank.
And I filmed a video with our friend, Ali Spegg.
That's right. Cool. Yeah, you last time you told us you were gonna and then now I guess you've done it. We've done it. So those videos are all up on our YouTube channel. The recommendation I have for you today is a guy, his channel is called Eric Beck Effects. If you watched indie mogul or backyard effects way back in the day, Eric was one of the guys on that, kind of one of the OG prop makers on YouTube. He was tapped to make a rig that would hold a 3D camera or a 3
360 camera inside of a bowling ball?
Holy cow. Yeah.
For the guys at Corridor crew.
They have a video up, but I implore you to go check out Eric's video and subscribe to him.
Like I said, he's one of the OG prop guys on YouTube, and he's been doing more and more
on his own channel now, including a behind the scenes on how he put this camera inside of a bowling ball.
That's amazing because of how much it has to stay put, how much it has to stay centered and
focused on the same thing.
Yeah, I'll bet that's a huge part of this build, right?
Just trying to get that camera from shooting 400 different angles you don't want and staying where you want.
That's what it does.
It's a 360 camera.
It just films everything around it.
Wow.
And even though the ball was rolling, I think it auto-stabilizes.
So you could get any angle you want, really, because the footage is fully immersed.
Wow.
That's awesome.
It's bonkers, yeah.
That's cool.
I wonder what that looks like in VR.
Probably a nightmare.
Probably the worst thing he could do yourself
Well that's cool
Go check it out
That is Eric Beck FX on YouTube
And you can see that entire build
Your thine own self
Hey Bill
I'm really glad we could talk to you
While you're on your little trip
Hope you're having a good time out there
Yeah sure I am
Stay out of trouble over there
And you know if
I'll do my best
If it comes to worse
You can pretend to be Jamie
And now you've got two kids
Congratulations
Bye now
Nice
shoot me that link by the way when you get it oh sure absolutely sorry i forgot you don't have that
um add it to uh the quicktms dot l i can do here it is right now
thank you sure all right you mother effers let's get into oh i got to share something real quick
i just yeah i realize that this is a bit of a uh pride thing for me but i'm doing it anyway
um you know sometimes we we get excited about things we got going on for sure yeah projects or
you know moments of our lives or whatever and so brian i'd like to share this with you now as you
can tell i'm killing time when i get these files here it's a nice vamp we're very well done all right
here it is so van had to go to the dentist and his little sister was so worried he did fine he
was great he braved right through it um but his little sister was so worried about him
so she's holding his hand there and then look at this one she turns around looked at her mom like
i'm worried about him oh look at that little furrowed brow i know she
She was so scared for him, but he did...
That is absolutely adorable.
He did great.
He had no issues.
He just like, let it go.
All right, let's have it.
And she was just like, she's the opposite.
She's terrified of this crap.
Anyway, cute, right?
That's super cute.
Yeah.
All right, thanks for indulging me.
Quick thing.
I just wanted to say, you know, the other day we did the villains, the Simpsons, or sorry, the AI villains.
Drawvotter and stuff, yeah.
Yeah, I found another great one.
This is Simpsons characters.
And at first glance, you might say, oh, it looks like it kind of got it right,
with someone's a little smudgy but look at these characters homer he thinks marges selma patty millhouse
mr burns bemithers bemithers be mithers mo abe okay sure all right uh a pooh is totally wrong
skinner yeah skinner edna is this dude i've never seen really willie and willie yeah dr hibbard
is a white man suddenly yeah wiggum okay that's wrong is barney yeah ralph ralph is just this guy
Ralph, Ralph is like the morph of Apu and Wigam.
Yeah, it's so dumb.
Then you got Kang, which is a combination of actual Kang and Krusty, which is very weird.
Frank, instead of Flanders.
Otto, Otto.
It really goes off the rails.
Like after Homer and Marge, it's like, you're...
Yep.
Frank is totally wrong.
Iofo.
Oifo, is that it's it.
Look at Kang here.
that's another yet another king yeah side show me
quimby martin nelson dulf dolf and jimbo fantastic
good job a i we love to make fun of you well that's fantastic uh all right everything got
moved because of our weird schedule so the monday show is today at one so today is tuesday
but don't let that fool you today at one p.m carter and i the monday show watch for that
today at four p.m normal time will be me and brian dunaway talking about robocop video games at
4 p.m.
Yep.
New medical show on Wednesday.
Me and Jerry will record Wednesday and post that same day.
So watch for that.
We're going to talk about weight loss.
Drugs, like Zepics and...
All that stuff.
Plus, probably some...
What's the word?
Some myths around weight loss drugs and how to.
And we'll debunk them.
Nice.
Looking forward to some debunking.
And then a quick note about the 4th of July playdate that is happening.
It's happening at 9.30 a.m.
Yes, yes.
Mountain time.
Mountain time.
Correct.
We have to be a little weird with it because it's just the fourth.
It's a little crazy on schedules.
Yeah.
But 9.30 and it will go until 1130 because I have a thing at noon.
So it's a little short and also starting at a weird time.
Well, it's the same two hours we usually do.
They just time shift at 30 minutes later.
Oh, that's a good point.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's super easy.
So anyway, 9.30 a.m. to 11.
a.m. 11.30 p.m. a. A.m.
Shit. Maybe I had some... This going
so well. Had some second-hand
MD&MA. Yes, exactly.
Anyway, that'll be on this
Friday, which is normally the fourth here in the States,
but it is still the fourth. We're just going to
play games during it. Brian,
anything else you got going on?
Well, stay tuned to find out for sure what our
movie is for FilmSack, because the one that we were
planning on watching might have gotten pulled
yesterday and might not be available
somewhere new today. So we're waiting to find
out. So it's either going to be Bangkok Dangerous or Jurassic Park Lost World, which would be
great timing because rebirth comes out Thursday. I'm seeing it Thursday night. Or I guess it comes
out Wednesday because it's the Fourth of July weekend. So it comes out a day early.
Early reviews are a little stinky. Are they? Yeah. 54%. I mean, I don't know. It's probably a good
time though you know i think it'll be it's a good popcorn movie i don't care never tell me the odds yeah and i hear
mahercia ali plays uh he plays blade so it'll be great does he actually finally i wish finally gets the
blade that we've been waiting for sure um so so that'll be this week and we'll let you know for sure
what movie we're doing for film sack this week i think we're back to we're back to our normal
recording schedule at least for for a couple weeks i think so you got your washington thing but i think
until then we're in pretty good shape right we'll figure all that stuff out
Have you seen, I meant to ask you earlier, have you seen Iron Heart yet, the first few episodes or whatever?
Watch the first three and they're okay.
You know, it's, it's, the characters, even Iron Heart, even Rearie Williams, a little two-dimensional, but I want to see where it goes for the second, the second three shows.
The current, let's see, if I can pull it up, current Rod Tomatoes has it pretty good at 86.
That's full season reviews from critics.
Okay.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Which might explain why the 54 from Oz.
audience is just the first three.
Yeah, it might be.
I'm sure a handful of people in this
reviewing place are probably
dicks or just like, Iron Man isn't a girl.
What do you guys doing?
Yeah, exactly.
Why do they have to go woke with Iron Man?
Iron Man's woke now.
Is everything woke?
Yeah.
You know, that's why I put,
I look at 20 years later,
90% critics, 64% audiences.
Yeah.
So, you know.
That audience is, those audience members have forgotten what Danny Boyle does.
Exactly.
They forget about the punk rock style of directing videos.
If you go in Stitch.
71 critics, I agree with that.
93 audiences, which, you know, it's like, yeesh.
Yeah.
That's a crowd pleaser.
Oh, and I forgot the, this is Spinal Tap re-redux things out.
No, not yet.
It's not.
Isn't it?
No, that's, that is, this is Spinal Tap, the, the re-release.
of the original movie the oh that's what i meant i don't mean like redo it's like a just a re-release right
didn't they right right the sequel comes out later this year but that's a re-release of the original
movie i don't know if there's any extra content but i got notified that um what you may call it
alamo is going to be showing this as well and i kind of want to go see it in theaters again because
it's such a great time yeah because i read somewhere they really uh restored it up to the quality
of the presentation yeah don't wonder if they added anything new look at that night
Not that they need to.
It's pretty strong.
I mean, that's, you know.
It's classic.
It's an all-timer.
The greatest, I think the greatest mockumentary of all time.
I can't, you know, I love, I love everything else that Christopher Gess does.
Best in Show is fantastic, but for me, Spinal Tap is the top.
Yeah.
Best in Show and this kind of share the same seats for me, roughly.
Do they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I could watch either one right now and be happy.
And maybe I will.
Maybe I will.
Maybe you will.
I assume it's a limited, like limited.
theaters and stuff. Yeah, it's only in two
nights, according, the Alamo's
only showing it for two nights, so.
I probably don't have an option. I don't know.
Yeah. Well, anyway, that's going to do it
for today's show. Thank you all for listening.
Frogvance.com slash TMS for all other things.
Don't forget to check out today's daily
music headlines, though. There's probably some great
stories being dropped there today, right?
Yeah, we're talking about, let's see,
BTS has a live, their first ever
live album coming out.
Um, uh, thanks to initiatives by folks like Billy Eilish discarded or, I'm sorry, unsold tour concert
t-shirts are getting taken to Morocco, unraveled and turned into new, uh, tour, concert tour t-shirts.
So, uh, finally recycling all those unbought smash mouth t-shirts.
What do they, would they normally do with that stuff?
Do they just chuck them?
Throw it away. Or maybe they give them, donate them to a, uh,
uh to i don't know i don't know if they donate him because that would be
you know just wait for wait for two weeks after the concert and you're like i'm just
going to greet it from the thrift store for four bucks yeah you always hear about like target
throwing shit in dumpsters because it didn't right and you're just like what what are we doing
or the whole like when they do a super bowl and they have to have t-shirts for both teams winning
yeah they have to produce them both so they have them right away and then the other ones just
get discarded or whatever so incinerated or something yeah they should give all that stuff
boy, just put a big red slash on them or something.
Exactly.
You know, like, it'll say, the Broncos win.
No offense to the Broncos.
They weren't in the stress year.
But, you know, if they were the ones that lost, just put a big,
down the front.
X through the win.
Yes.
That would be fun.
And then you would celebrate the attempt to win, you know?
Right, right.
I think people are saying that those shirts usually go to Africa.
Well, now they're going to Morocco and turned into new T-shirts.
So that's kind of cool.
Morocco's wear, which kind, is that an European thing?
I don't know where Morocco is.
That is North Africa.
Like that is...
Oh, so they just went north.
North West Africa.
There you go.
Africa, getting all our stuff.
That's right.
Someone's got to wear it.
All right.
That's going to do it for us.
Thank you all for listening.
Let's play a song.
Brian, what do you got?
Yes.
This is going out to Trickster,
who says,
please play this anytime close to June 13th.
Would be fantastic.
Sorry, this is the closest I could get.
It's going to be my 40th revolution
around the sun, no particular request.
Pick a cover song that you've been wanting to play more,
but never have the opportunity to sign Trickster.
So happy 40th, first of all, to you, Trickster.
Haven't played this one yet,
and it's been in like a list of like,
oh, figure out a way to get this one on the show.
This is a cover of the Talk Talk Song, It's My Life.
You might know it from the Talk Talk version
or by the No Doubt version that came out a few years ago.
This is by a band called Allegories.
They released it as a single last year,
excellent. It's My Life by Allegories.
If I could buy my mind reasoning, I'd think to lose, one half one too, one too.
How much do you?
Commit yourself
It's my life
Don't you forget
It's my life
It never ends
Funny how I'm like myself, I never knew.
I've played upon
Afraid to lose
I tell myself
What can you
Don't convince myself
If my life
Don't you forget
my mind
it never
rest
it never
I miss myself, how much do you commit yourself?
Commiss yourself.
Hit my mind, don't you forget.
Caught in the crowd, it never raced.
It's my life
Don't you forget
Caught in the crowd
It never raised
It's my life
Don't you forget
Caughting the crowd
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