The Morning Stream - TMS 2850: Big Dusty Items

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Woah, Black Manta, bam-ba-lam. Ground Beef Oreos. With Great Power, Comes... Oops wrong Franchise. Superdoo. Martha Graffiti. Woofsbane with Chorizo. They Changed the Frequency, Kenneth. Rabbit Ears Up, V-Hold Down. Brolin's Burnt Taint. All moustache all the time. War-Rig Envy. Flies, flies, millions of flies. The most expensive $10 dress shirt. Hootie and The Book Fish with Amy. Visceral Astin Hatred and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I like the hump and I don't like to drive. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Tuesday, July 8th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibit. Yes. Very dramatic. You get 20 points for Gryffindor.

I like it. I like it. Hey, everybody. Cash him at the prize closet. You get a nice eraser or a pack of chewing gun. Indeed. By the way, that clip I played, I played it because I just think there is, it's wild in today's perspective where all TV is a paid experience. there was a time where they were like

you still didn't get terrestrial your locals are still terrestrial if you have an antenna but you need a special not something you have to pay monthly for but you need a special box to like one of those big flat antennas you can put on with a cable thing that goes into your yeah because at some point

they change the kind of the signal yeah frequency or something no rabbit ears anymore it's got to be one of those weird flat antennas some of you people never have that experience, your dad getting up off the couch and yam, I push it on those things and hitting it. Like, oh, I think

we got the channel to watch the football game. Isn't that crazy? Oh, it's so weird. And it seemed normal to us at the time. It's just like, yeah, you got to deal with it. Vertical sink, not vertical sink. Vertical horizontal, whatever those were called. Right, because the image would go schloop, shloop,

yep. Shloop, shloop, shloop. We got, our childhood had just a big fat meal of that and then it all changed. And I think we're Okay with the change. I think we're fine with it. I think it's good that it got better, in my opinion. I've spent my entire morning, let me tell you something. All right. Kids are great. You love your kids. You support them. You help them when they need it, you know.

Yeah, be there for him. Right. Yeah. My youngest, Nicholas, he's in the other room over there right now. He's moving to a new place or another place. And been helping him. It's so nice when they leave the nest in their own nest that they've already left. to a new nest. Yeah, because what turns out is we are an interim nest between nests. So for about 15 days now, it's three extra people, one's an infant, but, you know, three extra people living under the same roof, starting to get a little crazy and cluttered here. And slowly but surely, this is what I was helping with this morning,

we are moving big, dusty items from the old place here, temporarily. because as soon as the other one opens up this will all then move there. But I guarantee you, come the 15th when the big final part of the move happens, there will be shit here still that isn't supposed to be here. I guarantee it.

So I am right now deciding, I'm making an executive household decision that when that day comes, it either goes with you or it goes to the D.I. or the Goodwill. That's what we're doing. Yeah. What's the D.I.? Desert Industry is basically a local version

of a, it's like a Utah version of Goodwill, sort of the same idea. Yeah, it's run by the LDS Church, so it's just got a different name, but it's the same idea. So we're taking all that shiz out, or you're taking it with you. I'm laying it down, Brian.

Tristan is down, as far as what we're storing for him, he is down to one cardboard box, kind of a fairly tall cardboard box, a plastic tub of Legos, full of Legos. And it's like, we can't get rid of these he's like i just want to you know uh take these to the

or want to put them on ebay or put them on facebook marketplace i'm like what if you know what about kids if you guys have kids later on i know you're not thinking you even want kids right now but what if you change your mind and you never know you want them to come and play with these right um and then a an ikea lamp that he bought um that he was going to put up in his room bought it brought it home and then realized oh this is the kind where i actually to do a lot of wiring to actually install it. Like, this is not one of those that you just plug in and, you know, mount on a wall. This is one that hangs from the ceiling and has to be wired to stuff.

Ooh, that's a thing that takes time and effort, you know? Yes. And a semi-permanent place to put it. So, yeah, that's going to take them a little while. Here's, yeah, you're dead right on just, like, if it's a little thing like that we're left with, I'm fine with that. but right now it's stuff I can tell they don't need and it's going to sit here and I'm like no it isn't I'm making this decision now Kim and I are aware of one accord on this if shit gets left I'm like well you can leave it

but it's going to the D.I and then they'll be left with oh shoot we better figure out what we're doing and the thing is maybe they want it to send it to the DI and we'll take care of that I don't have a problem taking it there I kind of like going there sometimes you go there and you're like they've got a perfectly working $2,600 for $4. I'll buy that and take that home and plug it into a TV or send it to Brian Dunaway. There you go.

Here's an old queen record that's not even out of the sleeve. Maybe I'll pick that up. You know, sometimes you've got reasons to go to these places. And I don't mind going. We'll see how it goes. Hey, Brian, we got a voice from your neck of the woods, Andrew in Colorado. Oh, let's hear it.

He piped in, says this. It's about Superman stuff. He says, Dear Brainiac and Solomon Grundy. Again, two. two villains that make Superman more interesting because they're interesting. I agree. Here's how you make Superman interesting and that's why I think

James Gun's your right guy. Because I think you're right about villains are important and what he has to do are important. But also focusing on Superman's status as an outsider, literally an alien. Yes. Right. And what he has to do internally to maintain his

rightness because he is inherently a good dude part in large part because he was raised by this wonderful family in the middle of iowa or whatever and he he's just a good moral dude but that conflict of that morality that much power that much responsibility and then add to it you got these psycho villains right it's that's how you do it and i think that's what james gunn's going to do i hope so because yeah unlike you know uh Bruce Wayne, secretly he's Batman. Peter Parker, secretly he's Spider-Man.

Superman is Superman, and secretly he's Clark Kent. Right, the other way around, yeah. Exactly. His secret identity is his human thing, as opposed to the opposite. Yeah, and I'm all here for it if they can pull this off. I'm pretty excited. Anyway, he says, Dear Brainiac and Solomon Grundy, which I take a little issue with, because isn't he just like a zombie man?

He's kind of dead. He's kind of, yeah, he's basically... born on Monday, killed on Tuesday. Lumbering, gray-skinned, oaf. Is he a zombie? Something like that. Something like an kind of undead vibe going on.

I just remember him, you know, from the old super friends and hanging out in Black Manta's, uh, uh, helmet ship in the swamp. Yeah. You know what's funny about that? As I watched some of that recently, and Lex Luthor's kind of a dick to, um... To the other villains? Well, to the one that owns the damn helmet building. He's mean to him.

Really? Yeah. It's like, hey. He's kicking. about. You can use my swamp fortress. Ah, thank you very much. Now, sit down, Dick. I'm going to take over this. Like, he's just a pud.

And he lets him, Black Manta, just like, okay. Anyway, with Superdue, Super Dues, Superman Doo out at the end of the week. This is the week, isn't it? Superdue. This is the week, yeah. You're going Thursday, right, early? Going in two days, baby.

I'm excited. I'm excited to hear your reaction and then go Saturday and find out. Spoil Everything on Friday. On Friday, everything shall be spoiled. All popcorn spilled in the lobby on Friday. That's right. I haven't seen any crazy Superman popcorn buckets, and I think about it, right?

Like the Megan Head Split Open thing and the Jurassic Park dinosaur thing that Brian Dunaway showed us. But I've not seen any wacky. I'm surprised at it. What would you do if you were in charge of the Superman bucket? What would you do? I would do a Fortress of Solitude bucket that, separates open, you get your popcorn inside it, and it glows, like it lights up. Would it have big shafts of crystal...

Yeah, basically looking like the... All I can visualize, I have no idea what the Porteous of Solitude looks like in the James Gun movie. I'm sure it's been in the background, one of the trailers. But all I visualize is the crystal stuff from the Richard Donner. What's a good point? I think all they've shown is it growing a little? Yeah, and the inside of it where he's getting, you know, Sunray treatment, Sunray spa treatment.

Yeah, getting his sunny... his taint or whatever they do now. I'm sorry. Is that still a thing? The perineum tan. Is that a thing still, chat? You guys can all look that up. Was it Brolin who burned his?

Was it? I didn't know it was him. I thought it was some influencer wrestler, somebody. Oh, I could have sworn it was. James Brolin, really? Oh my gosh. Please tell me. Josh.

No, I think it was Josh. Or Josh, not James. James would make bacon. He can't do that. Who was it? Who was it? We did a whole. news story about this

two or three years ago. I don't remember. Somebody prominent and I can't remember if it was someone I liked or didn't. Burland's burnt taint. Nice title. Was it John Perlund?

Calhoun says, yes, Josh Brolin. All right. Dr. Calhoun, you're a Ph.D. We're counting on your word being correct. All right? Yeah, yeah. If you're wrong, you're in big trouble. Anyway, it goes on to say this.

Feels like a good time to remind people of one of my favorite Superman images of all time, first published in the 1950s. It shows Superman with a diverse cast of kids reminding them being non-inclusive is not American. The lack of girls and LGBT representation do date it, but it is, sorry, its heart is in the right place. My wife had it printed and poster size for her school when I was, when I first came out, or when it first came out, I'm not trying to out this guy. It sounds like I just outed Andrew. That is not what I'm

doing. Anyway, when she changed jobs, it came to live in our garage poster, on our garage poster wall. I hope we're going to see this kind of Superman this weekend and not the one that tells us dad to die in a bus tornado. It's a nice little slight there at the end toward the Snyder's. Let's his dad die in a bus tornado, but I still like the tells his dad to die in a die. Die, dad, die. So yeah, here you got this iconic image where he says, remember boys and girls, your school like our country is made up of Americans of many different races, religions, and national origins. So, if you hear anyone talk against a schoolmate or anyone else because of his religion,

race, or national origin, don't wait. Tell him that kind of talk is un-American. Nice. And then keep your school all-American. Well. I feel like we're missing, he's right, and it's little dated. Yeah, the first part of it's good, right? It's made up of, you know, many different races, religions and national origins.

But by the way, America first. Yeah. It starts out. That's something different less. It starts out in a really good place and kind of goes to a bad place. Oh, this is great. I clicked a 404 link, a link that goes nowhere, and they just have a picture of the riddler when that happens. Nice.

Oh, that's great. Yeah, I like that. A couple interesting popcorn buckets for Superman, if you'd like to see. I'm putting them in our chat or in our Discord. Let's see what you got. This first one I really like. I mean, it looks like a giant popcorn. Oh, is real?

Yeah. Oh. This is Regal. I like this. Yeah. Why is he, does he get tiny in the movie? something i don't know not not to my knowledge but uh that's a weird one crypton on crypton the popcorn poppers are massive and you cook it with your heat vision oh i like the one with

crypto uh how much how much a very similar similar one with um what you may call it a stitch they should make you pay in cryptocurrency for this you know what i mean it feels like there is a it feels like there's there's a joke to be made maybe in the in the movie that we're going to see where superman says i'm looking for crypto and uh you guys says oh i could sell you some man i partially part of me hopes they don't but part of me kind of hopes they do um it looks like he's x-ray visioning the popcorn to heat up and then pop that's the idea on there yeah he's using his heat vision to cook it so is it a 3d or is it painted on the sides i can't tell what they're doing kind of want it though oh i think you mean what part of it

Well, see how it's a 3D box, right? And you've got popcorn on all sides. Is it, is it? Because to put popcorn... The popcorn is inside it. So is this the popcorn that you're eating? Yes. And how are you...

And you're getting it out of the top up there? I'm guessing so, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's a question. And then you have to fend your way around the little popper apparatus in the middle there. Yeah, I'm curious about that. I'll look for it at the regal. I think the regal has all these weird.

things maybe they'll have one. So the AMC has that has regal right on there. Yeah, it's the regal one. AMC has that great Galactus 80 dollar popcorn bucket. No, thank you very much. But, um, although it sounds a little like if I had to guess, hey, will Brian get the Galactus bucket? I know. Yeah. It seems like something you'd at least think about for a minute. I would think about it. You know, and if it was 40 bucks, I think I'd say yeah. Yeah. I totally would do it. I guarantee you that's, that's more what it's worth than 80. yes for sure material-wise it's not like you get some titanium sweet bucket or whatever it's going to be plastic uh let's see uh regal also has the fantastic car popcorn container which looks really weird that's cool um that car is ridiculous it is ridiculous i guess they've got i don't know look at this weird popcorn bucket i kind of like what i get what they're trying to do here this is uh a popcorn bucket where you've got

each of the characters represented by a portion of the bucket so I guess Mr. Fantastic's there at the bottom and you got the thing then you're a human torch and then a transparent section

at the top for the Invisible Woman It's a little odd It's clever I kind of like it You know what I want? I want that as a drinking glass So shrink it narrow it and make me a glass There you go

Yeah That would be cool Because you're never going to use this for anything of popcorn, right? No, no, probably not. I kind of like these little figures on the drinks. They look kind of cheap, but whatever. They look all right.

Yeah, yeah. And basically, I was going to say Funko Pops. The first one, Mr. Fantastic is super Funko. Yeah, their eyes. Actually, all three of them, but the, yeah, their eyes actually have whites. Yeah, I was going to say they got pupils on the whites, which is unusual. But the thing is so, he's dokey compared to the other three. Yeah, he looks like a little lizard.

I don't look like that thing. Exactly, yes. And Johnny Storm is just a massive red goo. She looks cool, though. Yeah. I'm excited about it. Somebody took a bunch of shots from the trailers and took his mustache off. Oh, really?

And it looked really weird to see him without his mustache right now. Oh, really? Because we're so used to it. Yeah. Everything we've seen him, and I don't know if we've seen him without it. I've seen him in old stuff, but from Oberyn in Game of Thrones forward, I think it's all mustache all the time. Oh, right. Yeah.

I don't think I mean I think Kim and I saw him as a lawyer and the good the good wife It was a small role for like three episodes no beard no mustache and but he's also really young and just that I don't think you can count that So I don't know anyway there's that hey check this out too oh I forgot to no I did show it all right win megas called in Good old win megis often in the chat sometimes sometimes not but today it's a call and he has this to say right here. Hey, Scott, it's Winmegas, long-time listener, sometimes tadpull refuter, and first-time caller.

I was listening to the Thursday show and wanted to ask, if for some reason they came out with a Mad Max war game, would you buy it? Follow up, would you actually play the war game? Despite recent events,

I still find joy in your daily orations. Okay. Bye. So he's basically saying if they made a 40K-style war game. Like the Warhammer. Okay, because those are quote-unquote war games, I think.

That's what he's, that's the genre. Um, yes. Today. Of course. Yeah. I mean, obviously you'd buy it. Would you, would you play? Hell yeah.

I would play it. This is the kind of motivation I need for my IPs. If you give me something. But I say that, but I also love, uh, Warhammer. I just know what a money sink Warhammer is. Yeah. If you really get into Warhammer, you're going to go deep and you're screwed. It's a little like Magic the Gathering.

Be prepared to spend way too much money on a bunch of plastic and paper and it's just the way it is. that a Mad Max game is a singular thing. It's like they're not going to make 30 years of iterations on it, and I'm not going to go to a store and find a billion minis being added every month for Mad Max. Exactly, like the, well, now we've got the multiverse version of Mad Max where... Yeah, they're not doing that. So if they were, no. But if they, if it's a one-off and it's like a real special set and whatever,

hell yeah in a heartbeat and i'd play with all of you somewhere at some event that'd be great um what i really want is like metzen's setup he's got this rad thing in his basement that is basically this huge array of terrain super hyper realistic terrain and figures like a table that's built basically here's this is the room where we play warhammer yeah and it's large um and it's just covered in like the best stuff you can think of like he's He's obsessed with it, which makes sense if you, if you just spend any time with StarCraft, you're like, I wonder where some of these ideas came from. Hmm.

Yeah. Interesting. Almost entirely Warhammer 40K stuff. But that's okay. That's fine. They put their own spin on it. Jim Rainer's cool, all that. But, yeah, it's clear that he has a, he has an obsession.

And when you, you know, when you're Chris Metzen, you can afford that obsession. I can't. That's right. Yeah. So I will not be enjoying that obsession. Well, you, you know, we're talking about minis and little things. like that and 3D printing and painting and assembling, you would send me a link to this Mad Max war rig a couple weeks ago. Did you see how many pieces are in that thing?

No, I didn't dig that deep. Let me pull up the thing I sent you. Pull it up and then I'd like you to scroll through how many pieces. And listen, I love you, man. You know, I'd print this for you in a heartbeat. Well, for the record, it wasn't me asking you to do it. So just so people know. I totally. I know. you totally weren't you were saying like oh my god what would it take to print this yeah um but do you need do you have the link i'm looking i can't i thought i had it soon we talk a lot it turns out we do um if your eyeball i got it right here link coming in our discord and you found it a lot quicker than me well because uh here we yeah because i i had it queued up all right so start

scrolling down and know that each line in the spreadsheet you're about to see is a different part. I'm going to hit show all and be really embarrassed. Oh shit. Oh, keep going, my friend. Oh, keep going. Oh, keep going. Why so many? Like, 200 or more of many parts? What's the scale?

One-sixth or what is this? It is one-16th scale. So, I guess it's just the detail, right? You're getting every little spike, every little rivet. Every, exactly. each of those things like each skull is a separate print each you know the uh and if you if you um go back up to the top and yeah there you go what you're doing hitting the button to look at the right um through all the oh the photos yeah yeah the photos when you start getting getting to the parts you'll see like oh my assembly instructions and then i don't even think this includes this the tank does it

it doesn't it is not no it is just the war rig truck just the oh my gosh that's so my dude okay there's the pieces this is like going to the hobby store and your teens going i'm going to build it yeah shit yeah i looked at this and i said i was really i was really considering printing this for you for your birthday and then i said i'm going to send him a box with 400 parts in there and that box is going to stay wherever he opened it uh unpainted unglued together everything Oh, it's a lot. It's a lot. Oh, did I tell you, I finally come to a decision on how I'm doing this Batman?

Here, hold on a second. Oh, really? One of the first things I printed for you, like the, yeah. I'm going to bring it over here. Hold on. Okay. Oh, I love the head. I love the head over there.

Sorry about that, but anyway, the head, the head sits on top. Yeah. Here's what I'm going to do. So it's a torso and the head of the Batman. all right this is we're talking about the patents and business the matt reeves movie um i've made a decision because i've really struggled with what i want to do here okay and i was like do we go hyperrealistic it's not that exciting but if we did something more stylistic and then i think well that's just everybody does that so what could i do that's different i'm going to paint it as if the joker's

painting it oh like so i'm going like smeary makeup on the mouth yeah yeah green splottes is a paint, big swatch, but very, like, chaotic and angry, as if this is like a bust that the Joker's, like, got a hold of and is just being a dick about, you know? I love it. Kind of like, was it one of the Arkham games were in his basement, he had a, a robin suit that was covered with Joker graffiti or something? Yeah, there was something like that. I think that may have been actually what inspired it because I was looking at it,

or maybe it was a cartoon or something, but whenever he gets all defacey, or even in the comics where you see Batman graffiti by the Joker or his people, and it's just kind of wacky and big grins across, you know, it's like propaganda almost. It's hard to explain, but I want that,

and I want it to be really, like, bright colors and graffiti-like spray and that kind of thing. That's cool. Oh, that was in Batman v. Superman, okay. Oh, was it? it? Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go then. Anyway. What made you say that? Graffiti?

Yeah. Martha Graffiti. All right, you guys. Thank you, Winn-Megas for the call, and the answer is, yes, I would play that game to get back to. Play that crap out of that game. It's time for us to do some Tuesday news, and it comes at you fast. It's the news brought to you by. Brought to you by Daily Music Headlines.com,

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Yeah. Love it. I want to make the hats that say keep music real. Yeah. Make music real again or something like that. Yeah. Do it with comics. Do it with movies.

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You know, we don't get a lot of traffic, or not a lot of traffic, a lot of posts on our Reddit, But if you find a story that's like, dude, I want you guys to cover this. It's one of the places that we look. So we always check it even though no one's ever posted anything there. But we have a subreddit. Daily Music Headlines is the subreddit, as you might guess. And we'd love to get your suggestions for stories now as well. Nice.

I always think we should do more for TMS on Reddit. But then I think we kind of do it on Discord anyway. So I don't know. Yeah, I know. It's kind of weird. I don't know if we've set up, have we set up a daily? Have I set up a Daily Music Headlines Discord? I don't know if I have.

I guess I need to. Yeah, and you could even... Oh, we do have one. Oh, you do? It's right there, yes. Oh, okay, cool. You have one. Yep, we just need...

Yeah, maybe that's where people should post. Gosh, I guess we should... Maybe have something on the website that lets people get to the Daily Music Headlines Discord. Maybe that would be easier for folks. Sure. It's funny, you and I were talking about... I don't remember the context was we were talking about Anne Wilson

and early... Heart. And I don't know why we were talking about them. I can't remember the... crux of our conversation but at a listener send me a message and say have you seen this live performance of stairway to heaven in front of those guys in front of the band yes at the at the oh my god what is that um beautiful theater a regular award thing that they do every year oh uh yeah Obama was there because it was a presidential performance thing or whatever Lincoln Center that's it

Lincoln Center, thank you. Yeah, that thing is absolutely amazing. And the, you know, just the look on Robert Plans' face hearing this, Hart started out as a Led Zeppelin cover band. Yeah. Before they released their first album, they were playing in bars as a Led Zeppelin cover band. So to kind of come full circle and then perform, Stairway to have it in front of the two guys that wrote it.

Yeah, and he was all tearing up. and it was which is i think more meaningful given that that's their most overplayed song they were probably pretty sick of it in the day you know just because everyone stairway to heaven's like playing smash mouth rock star or something or all star yeah it's like what's that's the point of doing that they got they got a deeper library although that's a bad band to compare them not comparing i know of all bands like you could have said radio heads creep there you go that's better that's way better i don't know why i did that uh but but yeah like it was that that is a a remarkable performance. If you haven't seen

it, go seek it out. It's really something. Kennedy Center, not Lincoln Center. Oh, is that the one they're gutting and doing weird shit to? Is that the deal? I think it's the one, yeah, that the current administration is changing things up or something. There's some... Make everything gold in there?

Get some Timo gold paint and paint that up. That one pisses me off so much I'm not going to do as impersonation for that one. That change triggers me. Yeah, it's because look, you love you love music you love the heritage yeah it's like fantastic

Led Zeppelin smash mouth same thing yeah same thing exactly anyway it was really good so next Kennedy's center honors is gonna be Kevin Sorbo Kevin Sorbo we love him we love him Sorbo

like sorbet I love Sorbet raspberry sorbet she wore a raspberry sorbet isn't that what Prince sang yeah we think you would let's say let's just say there's no way Trump knows who

Prince is well that's true that's true but if sorbo was actually honored there what would sorbo do on that stage like let's just imagine he would he would do hercules shit right come on now

gosh probably yeah yeah you know who doesn't like her like him at all is uh who what was the other who's what's her name played uh the spinoff lucy lawless can't freaking stand the guy really i'm not surprised

yeah just like he's a douche yeah uh all right here is it's scream disappointed Disappointed. Disappointed. Billions of flies are going to be dumped out of planes in an effort to fight flesh-eating maggots known as the man-eater. Whoa, here they come. Yeah, they're going to eat you up.

Watch out, boys. It's a bunch of flies. U.S. government is preparing to breed billions of flies and dump them out of airplanes over Mexico and southern Texas to fight a flesh-eating maggot. That sounds like a plot for a horror movie, says this article. This so feels like there's no, like, there's, this thing just screams, what's the worst that could happen? Yeah. Well, also, our flies lay eggs and have more, I guess they're not the same maggots.

So maybe that's the thing is they got to get. Yeah. I wish this was. I guess I didn't realize flies ate maggots. I didn't know that either, or maybe certain flies eat certain maggots. They just fight them. Yeah. Fight!

This is the thing. Bobby may want to follow up on this next week. I don't know. I know he's in the chat. Oh, yeah, for sure. That sounds like a plot for a horror movie it says, but it's part of the government's plan to protect the U.S. from a bug that could devastate its beef industry. So you've, so let's three, two, one on the vegan freak out in the chat. Let's see.

There we go. Just waiting for one in particular. Yeah, you know the one. There it is. No, not yet. Not yet. Oh, man, I'm a little surprised that's taking her that long. Perhaps she's on the shitter.

anyway isn't this how they got the snakes out of ireland or when the snakes came to get the they brought in snakes to get rid of the mice or something i don't know that's what you always worry about right yeah and this always happens it's like we're going to get rid of the flies now yeah we transplanted a tree that was native to africa and put it here oh no that tree is now strangling the roots of this other tree what do we do bring in the dogs oh no the dogs are from africa and those are bad dogs so hurry up bring in the monkeys you know what i mean like when does it stop yeah i know this is a uh this is an old woman who swallowed the fly kind of situation yeah yeah yeah well perhaps perhaps perhaps we'll all the maggots will die we're all gonna die

uh let's see it says here the sound or see blah blah blah where was i okay it's an exceptionally good technology says edwin burges an assistant professor at the university of florida who studies parasites and animals particularly livestock it's an all-time great in terms of translating science to solve, or sorry, yeah, translating science to solve some sort of large problem. I mean, sure, I guess. Target pests is the flesh-eating larvae in the world, are known as the New World Screw Worm. How's that sound? The New World Screw Worm Fly.

Yeah. The U.S. Department of Agriculture plans to ramp up the breeding and distribution of adult male flies, sterilizing with radiation before releasing them. Oh, that's interesting. So they're irradiated flies. Screw worms. Screw worm. I don't know what's worse. Into the marigolds, eating flesh and then-da-da-da.

Something else. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if making them radioactive is helping me. You know what I mean? Too many comics for us that, again, what's the worst that could happen? Yeah, it's weird. So it says the way this, so this has a part in it. That sterilizes them.

They then mate with the females in the wild and the eggs laid by the female don't get fertilized and therefore don't hatch, which means fewer larva and over time that'll hold the whole population dies out is the idea I still get your swatters out southern Texas get ready

yeah yeah if your floods aren't bad enough now you're going to have a freaking fly problem I mean the term flesh eating I kind of agree with the whole nuke it from space when you bring in the word fleshating the hyphenate the poly hyphenate

flesh eating or whatever it is right whatever it takes get rid of it so if it is dumping a bunch of radioactive flies whatever it takes to have maggots not eat me at night yeah yeah I think I might be okay yeah I think I'm cool with that too

I mean we you know we are the dominant species who likes to dick around with nature it's what we like to do yeah exactly and by the way me I wasn't trying to give Claire shit for being a vegan I was giving Claire shit for piping up immediately when she hears the word vegan. That's all that was.

I wish I could do the vegan thing. It's hard for me. I struggle. I would like to do it better. I'd like to be more of at least a vegetarian, if not something closer to a vegan. It's hard for me, though. I struggle. I see a hunk of beef and I go, oh.

I want to eat that. I do. It's really hard. I've tried a couple times and I've failed miserably. But maybe, you know, who knows? A lot of people change later in their life. You never know. At some point, you and I are going to be eating Selena Gomez Oreos, which I think

contain Selena Gomez. Oh, sweet. Well, I think they're non-vegetarian. Yeah, non-vegan, but definitely, I don't know what they would be. They'd be murders in the building or something. Oreo murders in the building, yes. I'm excited about those. They haven't arrived yet, though.

I checked it this morning. Oh, I saw your text. Sorry, I didn't reply. That's right. Moving stuff. Yeah, yeah, you're doing stuff, yeah. They haven't arrived yet. So hopefully today.

These, I'm excited because here's what I love about it. They're like red velvet, right? They're horchata. I think. Oh. Chocolate and cinnamon cream. But here's what I like is that the box is a bunch of two-pack cookies. Like, you know, instead of opening a sleeve and having, you know, those ones we got last

time, which are five, four or five cookies in each one, which is more than you should eat in a sitting. Yeah. Two cookies in a sitting. Perfect. Totally can do that. Perfect. And you know what?

You give me a pack where I open that pack, eat everything in the pack, throw the pack away. Exactly. That's a lot. That goes a long way. Yeah. And me, she's just going all the way. down the line of the sleeve. Right, exactly.

That's great. I didn't know that's how those are coming. I'm excited. Yes. A taste of Selena Gomez. Instead of opening a sleeve, you could open five of those packs. No, we're not going to. We're going to stop at one.

Yeah, we're going to stop. We're trying to find, we're just looking for help at stopping at one, and I think this does. Too much, too much work. Yeah. And Claire reminds us they are, they are vegan. Are all the Oreos vegan, like every flavor combination of vegan? Orios, because I know the, the rest of, you know, the rations. Original Oreos are famously vegan, but...

Right. I think just about every flavor is vegan except for ground beef. That's the only one that's not... The ground beef flavor. Ground beef orio. I mean, you say that, and obviously we say it in jest, but I wouldn't be that surprised if they've tried to do that.

We get some weird shit. I'm waiting for, you know, with the pickle craze going on, I said this in TMS chatter. People are talking about, like, how there's all these new things coming out. Sonic has a new pickle, slushy. this pickle and that pickle and mixed drinks you know more bartenders

are making pickle flavored drinks but chips potato chips sure I would not surprise me if they come out with a very very brief flash in the pan pickle flavored Oreo

I would be willing to try it on the show how about that? I would too I'm not going to rush out and buy these I'm not going to eat them on purpose except for the show

we'll do it for that we'll do it for the show We'll do it for the show. For science. Yeah, for science. We'll do it on Monday when Bobby's here. It's great. Yeah, there we go.

Yeah, when I say original Oreos, I mean, like right now, you go buy a pack of, quote, unquote, originals. With regular vanilla cream filling or white cream filling or whatever it is. I know those early way back in the 50s days, they were not that, but they are now. Yeah. Okay, so lots of flies. Watch out for that. Here's a final story for you. A boy, age eight, rescued from Thai drug den after,

being found living with dogs and only able to bark his only means of communication pretty gnarly right i mean i'd make a mowgli joke but this is so sad yeah it is very sad authorities in thailand have rescued an eight-year-old boy found living in a with a pack of dogs and reportedly only able to communicate by barking the severely neglected child was discovered during a welfare check on monday i feels like they took a long time to do that welfare check you know yeah right get in there get in there a little sooner guys and god keep the kid from barking his way up the life. Jeez.

Severely. Oh, see, where was it? Oh. Okay, it was living in a rundown house described as a drug den in La Play district in Thailand's Northern Ultradit. Oh, ultratradit. I don't know how to say that. Sorry, I was getting my, I was getting the song ready.

I'm going to find it. I'll help you out with the word. Perfect timing for me to find a bad word. And then. Exactly. Oh, I'm still, there it is. Uttra. Oh, Thailand.

Uttradit. Uttaradit. Uttaradit province. Uttaradit. That sounds right. Sure. He was found with his 46-year-old mother and 23-year-old brother, both of whom reportedly tested positive for drugs. Drugs!

Okay, so he wasn't, I mean, I'm not at all defending this. It makes me feel better that he just wasn't like abandoned in a room with dogs and, you know, thrown the same food that they're throwing in for the dogs. Part of me thinks he'd be almost better off without these people in his life. Oh, for sure. Yes. Get these, get this kid away from these people. Because they're definitely not helping. Yeah. The house is in a red zone for drugs. The boy had no one, just the dogs to play with. The child is believed to have had attended school only once, despite his mother receiving the government stipend of 400 bot, which is around 9 euros, to support his education, according to cow sod English.

That's a website, I guess, or newspaper. Cal saud. Anyway, do not let your kids just live with the dogs. Don't be doing that. Yeah. All right, that's not cool. Horrendous. Not cool at all.

I don't care how good the drugs are. Obviously, they're addicts. I mean, this is the dark thing. Yeah. Here on the morning stream, we try to have a little fun, you know? We do not condone the use of drugs at this level where your children only have dogs to play with. That's right. But we do recommend that you listen to cool music when we take break.

and Brian's got one today. What do you got? Yeah, let's go to New York City for this one with an electronic post-punk band called Public Circuit. They've got a new album called Modern Church, which doesn't come out until September 12th. It feels like a lifetime away for this album. But you can pre-order it, and you can listen to the brand new song from them. This is the first single. It's called Samson. Here is the band, Public Circuit. I have been in prison

I have been in prison I have been a boy again Touch my head I'm going to my body Don't talk don't dick When you lie to me You look so dark Keep my name out of your mouth

Let me ever put me out Strengthful Shurtson Shurtsin Shurtsin I'm doing body no time don't think

Skin's just soft, I've been feeling I'm doing my body, no time, don't do it, no need for comforting. Yeah, you're not so dumbed up. Goodbye, me, I love your mouth. I am needed prison I am I need a prisoner No need for your heroes

No time for your guide Take me up With me out Playing down for another Time by the mind Play free to my soul Ready up? Go ahead.

Give my name out of your mouth. Let me in, put me out. Ow! I need a prisoner No need for your heroes No time for your guys Take me up With me out

Take me down right up Jack about love Could it free be my soul Oh No need with you hear on No time for your guys Take me up Stay down to another

Jack and back the shirt This is a silkenny This is a silo shirt A fabric of It is a special shirt It has a special collar that feels soft, but stays in shape A feature many $16 shirts have. It has seven buttons instead of six, so there won't pop open at the waist.

A feature some $20 shirts don't even have. The J.C. Penny $10 dress shirt, probably one of the most expensively made $10 dress shirts in America. Where's the shitter? And yes, if you thought that was Christopher. Reeves, you would be correct. It was. Wow. J.C. Penny ad in the 70s. Hey, we're back and there was a song there, so now Brian will tell us what it was again.

I'll tell you again. This is the back announce portion of the show. Public Circuit is the name of the band. They've got a new album called Modern Church coming out in September, but that is the first single. Expect to hear more, probably. That's the song, Samson. Nice. And keep your emails to yourselves. I know it's Christopher Reeve. I say Reeve sometimes.

It's just the thing you do. It's fine. Calm down. Save your emails for later. Um, well, actually, Sky is Reeve. My favorite thing in the world. Um, okay, let's get, uh, Amy all up in it and, uh, see what she's up to. Okay. We're gonna, we're gonna talk about a couple of books here.

We're gonna play this though first. If I can find it, where is it? One of the things that I enjoy also is reading. Ladies and gentlemen, join us now in welcoming Amy to the program. Hello, Red Fraggle. How are you? you're muted is what you are oh there you are you are you no you're good now you're good hear you now that was a weird start to a thing but you're back hey look who it is it's amy what's

going on how are you hi hello i'm doing well how are you guys doing you got an achievement what's that t-shirt new achievement says new achievement what's that about there is new there's new dungeon crawler carl merch available in the teahop shop and this is the t-shirt i got hold on i'll show you the back hold on all right let's take a look how um oh my gosh how often you get suckered into stuff on the ticot shop because it happens to me all the time oh look at that that's a good damn it donut yeah how often you do that amy do you get you get to you get hit with the algorithm once in a while you're like damn it i got to buy that thing so i have a strategy for that um because I was getting a little carried away with some of those things.

So whenever it gives me an ad and I'm like, oh, I think I might like that. I put it in the cart. Oh. And then I don't buy it until like, you know, the cart has several items in it.

And then I go back and in retrospect, I go, oh my God, that looks like garbage. I don't need that. And you know what I mean? And I, I root it out.

And then if it's been in the cart for like a few weeks and I'm, it's still there, chances are pretty good that I actually want the thing. I'm actually interested in it. So then I will go ahead and purchase it. I do the same thing with my emails that I send to Scott. I write them and then I like wait several hours and then say, ooh, yeah, maybe, maybe I shouldn't call them.

It's a good idea. It's a good idea. Yeah, never, it's like never fight drunk or whatever it is. Well, there's the only time I do fight. Well, yeah, definitely don't shop drunk or. or on, you know, I used to have a big problem. I would shop on Ambien and it was bad. Like, I would buy stuff I didn't even remember having bought and it was like, you know, so.

Yeah, I never tried, never had Ambien, never had to prescribe to me, but I've always heard just like nightmare tales of the things you do while on it. I know. I would have to be strapped to the bed if I took Ambien because I, as a kid, I was a sleepwalker and sleep talker. And I can just imagine the kind of crap I would do if I was on Ambien. Yeah. My sister, me, you know, you guys know my sister Wendy comes in here on Thursdays and gives us all that advice and everything. Yeah. She sleptwalked and talked so bad as a kid. I stopped her from jumping or walking off the roof of a second story house once. Oh, geez. Yeah. There's no medication in both. She's just a sleepwalker. And she's up there walking around on her nightgown. And I see her in my room. We go running up there on the edge, get out the window. And she is literally about to walk off that freaking two-story house thing. And yet here she is today. all I can do is picture

Oh my God What was her name from Arquette From the Dream Warriors The Nightmare and Old Street 3 Right Where she's like Rosanna Arquette

Oh no Patricia Patricia Patricia Where she's like the marionette She's about to jump off the side of the building It's always like 12 Arquettes It could be at any given time Right exactly yes That was Sean Astin's character

Wasn't it the Marionette guy Oh you know it was That was Sean Aston. That's right. But she was the one was, I guess she was, yeah, so Sean Aston that was in the window. She was the one. Patricia Arquette was the one with the special powers where she could go into other people's dreams. Like she was the key to defeating Freddie in that movie.

Look at you with the knowledge. I had a friend who loved horror movies when I was a kid. And like, so whenever I would have sleepovers with her or whatever, we watched all those movies. and I've seen Dream Warriors many times. Yeah, Dream Warriors is a good time. I like that movie. It's fun. It is.

It's cheesy, but it's a fun one. Every time you say Sean Aston. Monica says not Sean Aston. Really? Okay. Well, I trust Monica way more than me on a horror movie. Every time you say Sean Aston's name in any context, I'm reminded that his dad is John Aston.

He played the original Gomez in the Adams family on the TV show. And his mom was Patty Duke. Yeah. And he's still alive, John Aston. That guy's still walking around at like 150 or whatever he is now. I don't know what he is. Probably 90 something. Well, I mean, you know, Mortisha keeps him up.

Yeah, it's a whole part of being kind of a weird undead family. Hey. I haven't told you guys about like Chuck's visceral hatred of Sean Aston. No. Why? Oh, my God. So Chuck like, okay, when the Lord of the Rings movies came out and everybody saw them and Chuck is one of the bigger Lord of the Rings fans,

I've ever met. Like, he's read all of it. He's read the Silmarillion. He knows all the lore. He revisits Middle Earth every few years or so. You know what I mean? Just he knows all of that stuff. So when he saw the movies, was really excited about seeing him.

He mostly really liked him. And then Sean Aston wrote a book about his experience filming Lord of the Rings. And Chuck went out and was like, hey, you know, cool. I'll read a book about this. all he did was gripe and complain and like about how difficult it was and you know the the conditions of filming and all this stuff and at one point he actually like complained about the scene at the very end where he kisses rosy you know and he was uncomfortable with kissing her because his wife was on set that i thought it was his wife isn't that his wife i thought that was famously his wife and his kid at the end. No. It might have been his kid, but it was not his wife because he wrote about that in the book about how he was like, how uncomfortable he, and he just looked at me and he was like, Chuck looked at me and said, let me tell you, if I'm doing an acting gig and part of it is I have to kiss a pretty girl, I'm going to enjoy it. I think we need to do another take. Can we do a few more takes? I don't feel like I got it just right. Yeah. Well, and the one story that really pushed him over the edge was.

was that, you know, that last scene where everybody is like the actual, you know, like not the last last scene, but like one of the last scenes where they're on the dock, you know, and everybody's getting on the boat. And it was days and days of filming that. And they were right at the end. And, you know, it was a really emotional scene. So it was hard for them to get the takes that they needed and whatnot. And they ended up like, first of all, they were not, the actors were not supposed to have their phones on set because, duh. And so they had to stop filming because Sean Ashton got a phone call in the middle of the tape. I mean, these were boring phones back then, too. We're talking brick phones. Yeah, right? And like, so he goes offset to take this call and takes his vest off and then comes back to finish the shooting. And then continuity catches it and is like, you know, Samwise doesn't have his vest on. So they had to reshoot the whole thing because of his dumb butt.

So, yeah. So, Chuck hates Sean Aston with like the fiery hot fire of a thousand. I mean, you see him hanging out with the original hobbits all the time. They're all still close and buddies and everything. I figured things went on. They do cons together all the time. Yeah. I mean, I don't think he didn't get along with people shooting.

It was just one of those things where I think Chuck was reading it going, dude, you have the best job right now. What are you bitching? You know, and like, so he wrote an entire book. book like bitching about you know doing the coolest role in cinema history you know um and like yeah like he complained about his salary in like he got i mean the man is rolling in residuals oh he's doing fine work again if he doesn't want to you know he doesn't he never has to make rudy too you know which would be hard to do if you know about rudy you know i've never

watched rudy so i i don't know uh don't know the what's what happens we should Film Sack, Rudy. You've never seen Rudy? Oh, it's actually really good. I really, see, I don't mind Sean Aston, but I, this is literally like Chuck is the one who has this hatred of him, but I really like, I really like the movie Rudy. It's very heartwarming. It has John Favreau in it also.

So if I saw, okay, hold on, if I saw Chuck in a public place and I went, potato, he'd get mad. Would it trigger him? No, he would, no, he would not get mad. We use that all the time. We use that all the time. And, like, there's, he still really enjoys the movies. There's just a couple, like, number one, you know, when it gets to certain scenes where, like, particularly that, that end one, you know, he'll kind of, like, folk fun and, you know, he'll have a comment here or there. The other thing that he doesn't like about the movies is that he feels like they did fair or mirror really dirty.

Yeah. As compared to the books, which, you know. You got to shorten stuff up. It's just what you do. Yeah. But, but, yeah, no, he likes the movies. feels like they're, I mean, he wouldn't have bought the book if he hadn't enjoyed the movies initially, right? So, um, but no, he's, you know, he's fine with all that. It just, I don't know,

it's, you know, how sometimes like, um, when you have either like an in person encounter or, like you read somebody's biography or whatever, something like that, uh, it just kind of leaves a bit of a bad taste in your mouth and then you don't really see that person the same again after that. I think that's, that's kind of what it is. Christy, Christy Spacehands, John Delancey. You can't, you can't now see a next generation episode with Q in it that and not think yeah like I wouldn't even wouldn't even like go a dollar you know I didn't have change she wouldn't even go a dollar less on an autograph yeah I'll never get over it it was literally a dollar because it's all I had in cash and he wouldn't do it still shook my hand which I guess was worth it. I got to eat breakfast with

John Delancey once did you yell at him and say you cheap bastard you should have given Scott the signed thing for a dollar less than usual I didn't know that story then but it was um yeah we just It was like one of the last days of Dragon Khan And he looked like he had been road hard and put up wet And I was like I am not giving this man like the fan experience here over breakfast So we sat around and talked about like what kind of hot sauce we liked on our eggs That's good. That's nothing wrong with that. I actually like that But at any point did you say it was a human connection as opposed to here

Scribble your name on this piece of paper at any point did he say I buy my breakfast and do not be a dollar less than You know, cheap bastard. All right, well, let's get, so two things. One, we're going to get to books. But two, thank you for clearing up a nearly 24-year misconception I had that that was his wife in those movies and not Sean Astin's or just some actress. I thought it was his wife this whole time. I thought that was a thing.

Yeah. All right. Because someone told me that. And I just believed it. No, I think it is possibly his kids. It is his kid. Yeah, that's not. Rosie is an actor.

Okay. Not his wife. I had no idea. All right. Well, hey, let's get to your books. We've got a couple here. You want to recommend this week. Start us off.

What do we go? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So the first one is, I will say it is an interesting take on time travel. And Brian, I think you would probably dig it. I mean, Scott, I think you would too. But I know Brian is particularly picky about time travel stuff.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's find out how this goes. Here we go. Mommy. I hear a little voice behind me. say. I turned in my chair, and before I can even make sense of what I'm seeing, I feel the tears well up. My heart is dancing and crying all at once. Can you help me with my transformer? He asks.

I can't speak. My lips are trembling, and my mouth won't form any words. My son, Sam, is barely four here. Are you crying? My sister asks, and your face is really red. I'm fine, I said. I said. I wiping my eyes. A flushed face is a common result of the time travel, but this feels like more than a side effect. I watch him play, and in this moment, I'm the one transformed. I'm free from all the worry that I wasn't the best mother when he was little, that I was always too tired, or not paying enough attention, or never enough fun. I bring into this moment that this stage in his life will end all too quickly, that I won't be forever worn and weary and wondering what I did wrong or if I could have done better. And that's when I see the beauty of it all, the joy of his giggles

and his love for me that knows no bounds, the littleness of his body that once exhausted me, but now I desperately cling to. In the future, I no longer get to buy sippy cups or crayons or children's toothpaste. I have a bunch of that in the house right now. Tell us more. If you wait long enough and it comes around, then you get to be the grandpa thing. But yeah.

So yes, this is a book called the Memory Collectors by D. Ah, shoot, I forgot who the author is, I'm a bad person. Okay, Diet Miserve. Oh, I see Fiona Harper. This must be the wrong one.

Let's see. Oh, yeah. the memory collectors or collectors yeah oh that's why i've got on quick t ms dot ill if you want to follow the link there okay i'll grab it there anyway tell us more it's really it's really good basically um you know it's a it's a you know a sci-fi uh story where it it's kind of what is it called when it's like it's not far future i guess near future sure is that a term near future okay so yes mostly the world, as we know it today, but with this one edition of this technology that allows people to sort of project their consciousness into a previous version of themselves. And you can't,

it's very, it's very well known that it will not change anything. Like, you can do whatever you want while, while you are sort of re-experiencing this piece of your past. But it's not going to change anything, like your future's not going to change, right? So everything, you know, everything that happened already happened. That's Brian's vibe, right, Brian, you like that. That is the, that's exactly what I look for is you can't change your past, but you can, I'm sorry, you can change your future, but you can change the future of the alternate timeline. Right, right. I like that. Well, in this case, it's not even really that. It's more like you're just projecting your consciousness into your past self. So it's more like an observer role. Yeah.

And you're not an observer. Like you can actively do stuff in there and, you know, you're there. But yeah, but it never, it doesn't change. It doesn't have any effect on the present or the future. It's kind of scaldzy like idea here getting played with. Yeah. And it's really, really interesting to me because it brought up so many, so many cool questions. And like, you know, so there's four different.

people that this goes through. And it's all told in the first person, but it's, you know, the first person of these four different people. And they all, it's like, it's one of those things where it's this new technology. And so only like either wealthy or, you know, VIP type people get to go do it. You know, that's, that's kind of part of it. It looks, you know, that's, they make commentary about that as well. But so there's one where it's this woman that we just heard who goes back to sort of visit her son, which you find out pretty early on that it sounds like her son has probably passed. And so that's why she's so affected by going back and seeing him. And then there's another guy who we know just goes back in time to like be able

to do things like hike and surf and climb, you know, do rock climbing and extreme sports and stuff like that. And then you find out why. And then there's another guy who goes back, who got, he got ghosted by this girl who, like, he was completely in love with, basically felt like she was the one. And then she just vanished out of thin air. And he never understood why. And at first you're like, oh, my God, dude, she just wasn't that into you. But then later, you kind of, oh, maybe there's more to it. Okay. And then the fourth person is somebody who deeply regrets something that she did and can never take back. And all those four people end up going back to the same time period at the same time. And so they kind of start encountering

each other and they realize that they're all what they call jumpers. And so they start kind of investigating like, hey, wait, why am I here at the same time as you? And what, like, what do you have to do with this? And what, you know. Oh, there's a conspiracy afoot is what it sounds like. It's, yeah. And there's this whole, you know, sort of mystery surrounding like, why are these four people who previously knew nothing about each other seemingly connected?

Why did the system send them all back to the same place? because initially they tell you that the technology has no control over when it sends you to. It just sort of sends you backwards and then you experience something in your past. I need to see what this Diet person looks like. I need to know who gets named Diet. It sounds like you're getting the mosquitoes. Don't use. I had to go and listen to like the introduction on the audiobook before the.

the show so I made sure to pronounce their name correctly. So it's not Dete or DT or anything like that as far as we know. Okay. No, it's it's deep. That's great. Yeah, but it's a really interesting story. Like I found it, I found it really compelling and it raised all kinds of really interesting questions and like one of the things that was just like kind of simple, but, you know, easy to overlook is that, you know, people who get sent backwards, like let's say, let's say, you know, I, if I were like in my 60s and now all of a sudden I get sent back to my 20s, right? Like, oh my God. Like, look how this body can do stuff, you know?

Like never appreciated this body while I was in it. Great, great do-over. You know, I'm so bendy, you know, that kind of thing. But, you know, and then there's, and like I say, just the little things that you overlook while you're living in that moment. But then when you go back to re-experience it, you suddenly are aware that you need to appreciate them. And it's, you know, and again, there's a whole other host of, it does what good sci-fi does, right? It raises questions. It makes you ask questions about, you know, kind of the nature of things and how we experience the world.

This woman, D.Meserve, by the way, kind of a crazy resume. She's not just a best-selling author. She's the CEO of Wind Dancer Films. She's a television production person. This lady gets around. She gets some stuff done. That's great. Yeah.

Love it. This book was recommended to me. It was one of the ones I got recommended to me by, you know, something else that I read in the past. And it was that right place, wrong time or wrong place, wrong time book where the woman keeps going back in time, like further and further back in time to figure out why her son got murdered or why her son murdered someone. Yeah, we talked about that here, right? That was one of those. Yeah. Yeah, that was one that I recommended here.

So it was one like, hey, you liked this book, so you might like this other one too. So, yeah. So if you happen to have listened or, you know, listen to that show and then take that, taking that recommendation from me, then you might like the memory collectors as well. Nice. That is our first book. Let's talk about your second recommendation. Yes.

So the second recommendation is, uh, it's. It's, we'll just say it's more sci-fi, but also, like, it's a little hard to listen to. Oh, goodness gracious. Oh, okay. All right. Everybody put on your temporary caution ears or something. Here it is. Afterwards, he takes some of his sweat and wipes it over her chest where she can feel it, cool and evaporating.

Gross. He nuzzles his nose into her neck. They have to figure out how to make you sweat. He says, that's the one thing. The next morning, he is reaching for his coffee at the machine when he accidentally hits his head on an open cupboard door. And when he slams it closed, the cupboard bounces back open and a cup from inside falls out. Annie gets up from the table. Are you all right?

What do you sink? I hit my fucking head. He kicks the ceramic shards so they fly across the kitchen floor. Then he shuts his eyes and presses his hand to his forehead. Would it kill you to clean up around here sometimes? She does a quick scan, left to right, and notes all the things out of place. Doug opens the freezer. No ice?

Fuck this. Are you sure you're all right? She asks. Just be quiet, he says. And then, when's the last time you washed the floor in here? Friday at 7.38 p.m. When I reminded you. Yes.

Okay, look, I like my place clean. That's why I got you in the first place, and now look at it. She rapidly scans the living room for out of place and dirty items, finding 36. You're a person who shares this space and you're home all day. The least you could do is keep it clean. Why is that so hard? His displeasure with her is a five out of ten, and she must fix it. Getting companion vibes out of this a little bit.

Yeah, there you go, right, yeah. It's it reminded me of. Anyway, what do we have here? What's this book? Yes. So the name of this book is Annie Bot by Sierra Greer. And it's, excuse me, it is told in a third person limited, limited, omniscient, but you're basically following around this bot whose name is Annie. And, you know, it's, again, kind of a near future sci-fi where they've invented, you know, human, humanoid, android type things that look and feel and behave for all intents and purposes like humans.

And there are three different models that you can get. There are cuddle bunnies, which are just what they sound like. There are Abigail's, which are sort of, you know, like maids, basically. They go around and clean up your house and do cooking and cleaning and things like that. And then there's a nanny bot setting where, you know, so if you have lots of kids and you need help with them, you can set your bot to nanny mode. and then she can take care of the kids. And there's also a mode, and this is where Annie is in this mode called autodidactic, which basically means she is, she learns as she goes.

She doesn't have a strict programming. She is a learning machine. And as she gets more and more human and she becomes more and more curious, you know, When she starts stepping more into her humanity, it becomes more and more uncomfortable to listen to her interactions with Doug, her owner. By the way, I love the vocal treatment that she gives Doug. I love it. Yeah, right? I mean, you can tell right off the bat, you're like, this guy is a dick.

Sucks. You know, like, yeah, like, this guy is a complete dick. And it, but it's fascinating. And I love the way that this book sort of handles it in that at first, you're like, okay, but, you know, she's, she's a machine. So she, it doesn't necessarily bother her that he treats her like that, but we know that he's a dick. You know, we know how awful he is. But it's almost a, it really is a really good allegory for what. it feels like to be in an abusive relationship because you don't realize it at first.

You know, it is so easy to be like, oh, well, you know, this is just what he's like. This is just our life. And, you know, like, and everybody who's ever been abused thinks that their situation is unique and they never are. And, you know, there's even a scene where when he takes her in for her regular service, which kind of, it almost makes it sound like, you know, when you take your car in for service, it's almost exactly like that. But then it feels like the way that they handle the narrative is that it feels like a doctor's

appointment. Sure. So anyway, so she goes in for this appointment and she's there and they have to get him on the phone and, you know, because they have to, oh, this part is worn out. So we have to replace it. Is that okay? You know, kind of like you do when you get your car service. And he's like, yeah, that's fine. And while you're at it, can you make her tits bigger and like shrink her waist down also? And, you know, like, and then she says to the tech who's with her, she's like, but I don't want to change.

Yeah. You know? And like, you realize, like, she doesn't have a choice. Like, this guy just is able to just change her body for his own whim. And she has no agency. But she, and previously, she wouldn't have. wanted to, right, because these bots are created for that, like, their primary purpose is to keep their owner pleased, right? And so, and you noticed at the end of the clip there, she said,

she, she could tell his displeasure was at a five. And so they're, they're engineered such that displeasing their owner actual causes them what, you know, the analog of physical pain. Oh, jeez. Okay. Yeah, it's bad. And so, you know, but when she's there with the tech and she's telling the tech, like, I don't want to change. Why do I need to change? And the tech actually says to her all the stuff that like people on the outside of a domestic violence situation might say if they don't recognize what's going on, you know, because of course, Doug is not a dick to everybody else just to her, you know? And so they, you know, the text says to her, oh, but you're so lucky. You've got such a good owner. Like he doesn't hit you or anything, right? I mean, literally like she says that. So it's, it's really, really, it's a really fascinating way to kind of, if you, you know, if you've ever been interested in, wow, what is it actually like to suddenly one day realize that you're in a,

an abusive and dangerous situation. It is that, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's that much of a thriller, I would say. Sounds up by alley. I'm totally going to check this one out. It's real good. It's got kind of a, you know, because it's like these sentient robots, you know, it's got a bit of a blade runner vibe to it, you know, but, um, yeah, it's, it's real good. I, I really enjoyed it won the Arthur C. Clark Award, which is no small thing. That's a, that is a big deal. It's prestigious. Yeah. That's very, that's very, Very, very cool. I want to check it out. That again is Anibot by Sierra Greer. All of these, by the way, can be found at the Pumpkin Cottage. All right. And those links.

To give us love to our friends at the Pumpkin College. That's right. Hootie and his wife run a ship shop shape, awesome bookstore out there in Springville, Utah. I need to get out there. Hootie and the bookfish. Hootie and the bookfish. There's bacon, cheddar. Yeah, I was going to, originally I was going to save Anibot for like October because that is Domestic Violence Awareness Month. but I decided to instead do it this month in July because this actually tomorrow marks the anniversary of my sister's death. So there you go. Nice.

Do check it out and get it. These are great books. They're up on quicktm.s. If you were looking for direct links, you can find them there. And it's always a pleasure hanging out and talking to you, Amy. Anything else going on you want to mention before we go? No, everybody say hi to Mama Fraggle in the chat. I finally got her all connected.

And she's not chatting very much. She has a sinus infection. So she doesn't feel good today. Oh, I'm sorry, Mama Fraggle. Is she in there as Mama Fraggle? Yes, she's in there as Mama Fraggle. So if she types in high, it should show up as, you know, hint, mom, go ahead and type in hi in the chat there.

We're giving her a video, yay. And then everyone should just swamp her with at tells in there and let her know how much we appreciate seeing her in here. All right. So do that. We're all winners now. Congratulations. All right.

Hey, Amy. Well done. good to have you here. It's fun to talk to you. As always, have a fantastic couple of weeks, and we'll see on here soon. Okay, bye. Bye. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. There's that. We did it. We did it. We did it. So, what do we do now? We do other things. We get out of here. Before we do, though, a couple of things. So we were supposed to do a medical show yesterday. Got busy, like I said, the stuff going on in the house. It got pushed to Wednesday. Sure. So Wednesday, that'll happen.

after DTNS. Today. That's not when you do streaming anyway, right? No, it's just recorded, yeah. We just put it up and put it on the feeds. There is a video version of it, though. It just is pre-recorded. That's a show is so much easier to do

without a distracting bunch of freaks. Oh, 100%. And we may do, occasionally here and there, we may do some Q&A streams or something, just some extra content or whatever, but we're trying to keep it real focused, and I think it's benefiting from that. tonight uh 4 p.m mountain time me and brian done away whip out our chains and

doesn't sound good at all doesn't just said chains yeah uh we do that on a live episode of play retro which will be at 4 p.m at frogpance dot tv so i hope to see a bunch of you here today for that and i think that's everything brian you got anything else going on today got nothing else this is a big uh like this is this is the day that if i had a 3d print farm i'd be done with my work a lot sooner because I'm I've got some refrigerator parts I'm doing for one guy. I've got an opencade, one of those

portable Raspberry Pi arcade machines that I'm doing for somebody else. I've got stamps going for Chuck and Amy. Nice. Have the first versions of which I'm holding up right here, but there's a modification I need to make for Chuck's.

And yeah, it's a busy freelancey day for that. Busy, busy day. But don't worry. be back tomorrow we got tms tomorrow we got recommendals and tom and all the fun stuff we do on wednesdays so return for that if you don't mind in the meantime let's play a song and get us the f out geez yes let's do that j wrote in very short and sweet no specific date or event recently heard this cover and just wanted to share it wow great you know that sometimes you don't want to say a lot and that's just fine yeah um this is great this i'm so glad they wrote in and uh suggested

this because i was fully unaware of this band and this This is, I got this confused with what I was playing yesterday. They're both on the same vibe. This is a little bit more electronic, a little bit less steampunk. But this is a band called Moonrunner 83. And the 83 in the name is very apt because that's the year this music sounds like it's from. So cool. Came out with an album in 2023 called Electric Avenue.

And on there, you'll find a couple of covers. Not a whole lot, a lot of new and original songs. But this cover right here that I'm about to play is excellent. It's cover of glycerin by Bush. skin, oh, I'm sick in it must be for real, because now I can feel, oh, I didn't mind. It's not my time, it's not my time to underlie. Oh, everything's white, and everything's great. Now you're here, now you're away.

I didn't want this, remember that I'll never forget when you're at. I'm never alone, I'm alone all the time, and are you with wine, and do your life? We've never been a wheel where everyone steals, and when we arise, it's like strawberry bells, or tree that you're bad you bruised my face i could love you more you've got a beautiful taste I needed you more, you wanted us less, couldn't I kiss, just raven grass, you might just be clear, simple and plain, and that's just fine, that's just one of my nights. Maybe you can run, maybe you can hide, you can escape right of. Maybe you can run, maybe you can hide, you can escape my love. Maybe you can run, maybe you can hide, you can escape my love.

Maybe you can run, maybe you can hide Because you can't skip my dog. Those pants are made for froggin. I actually don't. Frogpans.com Luigi with the squeegee.