The Morning Stream - TMS 2852: Sidewinder Wiggle Tip

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Neither Take Nor Leave 10 Bucks. Swamp Crotch Alarm. Moist on Pizza. Cranking it in the shower. It tastes like chalk made a wish to be food. Aftermarket Sugar-Free Boba Pearls. Do you double rainbro? Is it Preshow, 'cause I like really wanted to know. Deciphering superheroes. Kirby Your Enthusiasm. Dirty Banged-up Hole. Sterile Cheryl. The Konami code for sleep. My math is not involved with your hotel room. Stuck in the cheese with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Konami Code for Sleep. My math is not involved with your hotel room. Stuck in the cheese with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to witness for the first time on any screen. A preview of things to come in your car of tomorrow. His name is Brian. He's on a bus trip to the zoo. The Morning Stream.

All the ladies love for lure. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for Thursday, Jewel, Jewel, July, Jewel 10th. Jewel 10th. Smoke your Jewel 10th. That's right. Today's a big day for Tony Hawk fans. Tony Hawk's remake of 3 and 4 is out today. Oh, cool. Yeah.

like a little tricky, uh, tricky business doing an ollie off of a, a rail. I don't know what any of that is. I'm making that up. A, uh, a side, uh, side finder, uh, wiggle tip. There you go. Wiggle tip. Well, wheel spinner. There you go. Yeah. You know, listen to Brian and I. We know what we, we're with the kids. I'm a big skateboard person. This is a big day. This is a big day for folks who like really shitty reality TV shows. Because Big Brother is back from the summer baby. Oh, fantastic. I heard there was some catch this year, some kind of gimmick.

Oh, there are always some stupid gimmick. Last year's gimmick was that stupid AI thing, which was like the most, like, it was just so shoehorned and horrible. They did some deep fakes of some of the players giving, you know, lying to the other players kind of stuff in one of these weird. Have you seen those boxes that look like a, they look like a. a person is inside them, but it's really well done to look three-dimensional. Oh, yeah, I've seen it. Jimmy Kimmel's used it a few times. That's where I saw it, I think, is a Kimmel clip.

Yeah. It's really cool looking. Like, it looks like, I think they used it with Tom Hiddleston or something. It's very weird because it makes you feel like they're there, but they're not. And the only sign that they're not is that they're in the box. Right, exactly. Yeah, they did that with the Big Brother thing last year. Listen, you're a fan, though, right?

You can check it every year and watch the whole. I'm a fan and I feel as gross watching Big Brother as I do sing bros, Dutch bros. They should call it Big Bro. That's what they should call it. Oh my gosh. Maybe I have a brother complex. Oh, my gosh. That's where it's all stems from is like, I always wanted a brother.

I wish I had a brother. So I'll watch Big Brother instead. I've never seen a single moment of Big Brother. I have no idea with it. I know I get the basic idea and the surveillance and the whatnot from the. the early seasons, but I don't know. Here's what I, you know, I watch Survivor. The challenges are great.

The, you know, the strategy behind the show is good because you've got to think about, all right, how do I keep these people close, but only close long enough to get rid of them at a point where I can make it to the end. It's really, you know, it's a very cool little sociology experiment. Amazing race. Love seeing different countries. Love seeing like, oh, this is what makes that country great. Or here's the kind of cheese they make in that country or whatever.

And the challenges. Yeah, the challenges in particular are great on there. I love watching that context. They are. I care so little about the whole, I didn't come here to make friends dynamic. And that is all that effing big brother is. There are these stupid challenges that kind of try to make it legitimate. But it just, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it is the very definition of guilty pleasure.

There's nothing wrong with that. Everybody's got their trash TV. I think that's fine. I watch, you know, I don't say famously, but I've talked about it on the show before. I watch every season of Jersey Shore when it was on. when it was new. I haven't seen any of the spin-outs. I haven't seen any of the newer ones.

It's like Alabama Shore or whatever the hell it is. I haven't watched any of that. So I can't, you know, I'm not like a dyed-in-the-wool fan. It's just sometimes garbage hits right and you just want garbage. Exactly. You know what? It's the same with food. Sometimes you've got to have a really crappy burger from a...

Yeah. I might want one today. They can't always be five guys or smash burger. Sometimes you just got to go Carl's Jewish. Who we never get as a sponsor for this show? Jack in the box. Never jack in the box. Jack in the box.

Good. They're never doing it. And I like their tacos, but their burgers are something to be desired. I'll tell you what. Blah. Or they leave something to be desired. All right. Well, we're going to get to it.

We got a lot going on. I got to do a math thing with you that has been driving me freaking nuts. Now, understand that I have not done too much deep dive on this because I wanted to do that deep dive with you. Oh, good. Like fresh. Yeah, love it. So this may be completely embarrassing for me, and the answer is stupid. It may just be a basic trick people are playing, but I cannot figure this out.

Oh, good. I love these kind of things. This has a visual aspect. I'm going to put a $20 right here. Okay, a $20 bill right there. And I'm going to put another $20 right here. Okay. Now we have $40 there.

It's really the same. One of those is counterfeit because they have the same serial number. Right. Now, what happened? Oh, good point. pretend these are separate bills there's still only $20 on screen pretend these are separate bills just for the sake of experience so so I put down that 20 and what Brian did we're going to pretend is put this 20 on top of it so now we have $40 of our combined $20 each right right then let's see if I make sure I get this right so then I give you another 20 here give me directly another 20 I give you well okay let's call this the the the pile. And I'm going to go ahead and say, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pay you 20 plus 10. Here's a 10. So that's 30. It's like one of those Harry Anderson ways that you can make money by

asking people for change. Maybe. Kind of. Yeah, kind of. Maybe that's the vibe I was getting. And I was kind of bugging me. So all right. So now I've, I've said, hey, I'll pay you 30 for the stack. Right. Which means you only pay 20 into the. the stack, right? Correct. So you're 10 bucks up on the deal. So I'm 10 bucks up on the deal. And I am also 10 bucks up on the deal. How? No, you're not 10 bucks up on the deal because you've put in, you've put in 20, you put in 50 basically. Right. Right. Because you've given me 30 and you've put in 20 into the pot and you're taking 40. So you're 10 bucks down on the deal. Okay. So if I put in, well, I put in, okay, so I put in 20, then you put in 20. We both put in 20. Correct. Correct. Yes.

then let's see then you say hey i'll sell you this stack for 30 which is a pretty good deal right because it's 40 i'm going to get 10 dollars for free correct so i say okay here's my 20 and my 10 that's my 30 bucks right you're not giving me the 20 from the stack you're giving me another 20 from your pocket a new 20 so you've out so from your pocket you have pulled 50 bucks right you've put your original 20 from the stack oh right 20 40 10 plus 40 30 to me so you've put out you've you've you've you've you've you've taken $50 out of your wallet and you're going to put $40 back in when you get that stacked. Right. So what I've done is nothing. You've given me $10. I've given you $10. Correct. Okay. Why didn't that make sense to me last night? I'm like one of those people that should not watch the dudes with the three cups or whatever. I'm going to get fooled.

You're one of those people that Harry Anderson would make a killing. Yeah. Would have made a killing from. Yeah. We exactly. That's exactly what. what this trick is. And I kind of know in my bones that that's what this is, but I couldn't figure it out. And I took it around. I go, Kim, help me with this. She goes, I can't think about stuff that's like this right now. So she was like two out of it. She had a very busy day. So I didn't use her. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to do this on TMS tomorrow. And we're going to do it with Brian, who's used to dissolving shitty quizzes like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So you knew right away. So there is no, if the money had not been mine to begin with.

Which, which money? The 20 that. The 20 I laid down. Then I would be up on. the deal and you would be up on the deal. Correct. Correct. Yes. But because it's my original 20, what this trick does is quickly make you forget. It makes you forget that you have 20 in that stack already and you're paying me 30. You think you're getting 40, but you're really giving up 10. All right. That makes sense now. Jeez. I'm glad I can put that behind me. Completely unrelated question. Is Kim going to be doing the negotiating for the hotel for Nurtacular 2026? Yeah, actually yes. In part. yeah they're gonna go now look now we give you we give you 150 rooms and you pay us for half of those

and then we pay for that's what's going to happen yeah right we're going to pay for the other half but we'll buy both halves of the rooms for yeah her or karenn or someone else uh some help from uh barry's got some contacts we're going to do it without we're going to do it without my mathematical input i can promise you that yeah good good yeah it's good for everybody uh Thomas called in, had something to say, and we're going to hear it. I don't know what this is. Something about Superman, I think, and he is from Missouri. Here we go.

Hello, Scott and Brian. This is Thomas from Missouri, and I just wanted to disagree with something that Brian said a few episodes ago. He basically said that Batman is Bruce Wayne and then becomes Batman to fight crime. Whereas Superman is Superman, but he's Clark Kent, and it's as guys he puts on to basically, be able to walk around. I disagree with that. I actually see it the other way around. See,

Batman is the persona that he has all the time. He's all about fighting crime all the time to prevent the what happened to him happening to other people. And Bruce Wayne is just a disguise he wears when he's convenient for him. You can see it in the comics and the movies and the animated shows.

It's just something he puts on in order to get something done. But anyway, I love the trail guys. And I'll keep listening. thank you good well let's see if you still keep listening after what i'm going to tell you thomas i mean i for my initial impression is he makes a good point but brian i'd like to hear your i absolutely know what he's saying he's basically instead of saying that you know the batman is the is just a costume he puts on he's always been the the the vigilante inside right and

basically bruce wayne is the act that he puts on outside of that the millionaire billionaire playboy act that he puts on outside but he's always his his his um uh his his inner soul is batman it's always bubbling underneath the surface just waiting to be you know uh got to be i got to be in this meeting but later i know what he's saying but what i'm talking about is that you know it turned it on its head spider man puts or i'm sorry peter parker puts on a costume and becomes spider man bruce wayne puts on a costume and becomes badman those those things you can't disagree with Thomas, right? I mean, whether or not he's Batman deep inside, which I agree he is, at least when he fell down a well and saw a bunch of bats, or was in an alley with his parents? I don't

know. They really need to explain that. Oh, I hope they, yeah, we need that. Somebody tell us how it started, please, because we don't get enough of that. We don't ever see that. Exactly. I think we're going to get a, we're going to get a Superman origin again, aren't we like sending from Krypton? I don't think so. I think it's supposed to pick up right where he is. I heard something that I don't, that I'm not going to say. Maybe it's flashbacky, you know? Maybe, okay, maybe.

I heard about a cameo, an actor cameo. Oh. Yes. Hubba, hubba. Yeah, that might. Okay, anyway, so. The corpse of Gene Hackman. Rest of soul.

Got to get Superman. All right. So Bruce Wayne puts on a costume becomes Batman. Peter Parker puts on a costume becomes Spider-Man. Correct. I believe in this already. Bruce Banner changes when he gets angry, don't make him angry, and becomes the Hulk. Call L is that hero coming from Krypton, but puts on the disguise, his disguise is the other way around. He is Superman from Krypton, but, you know, he...

To blend in with humans, he has to become kid from Iowa, has to become Clark Kent, the reporter. Exactly. You know what? I agree with Brian. I'm going to go ahead and side with Brian on this. I think that is the differentiator. Now, to him, now, in world, though. Syrenx sums up what I'm saying so much better than I did. He says, oh, I see what Brian means now. Bruce adds a disguise to become Batman. Clark takes off a disguise to become Superman. That's kind of it. That's kind of it. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way of saying it. I think that on the ground, though, in world, in lore, if you're someone in metropolis and you see, Clark Kent or Superman. To you, it is that. It's a guy who puts on a suit and becomes a thing. Right. But if you look at the whole of it, then yeah, no, he comes as that thing and disguises as one of us, or doesn't disguise, but becomes one of us so that he can mill around with us and then reverts to his natural self as enhanced by the yellow sun when he's not being Clark Kent. So it is, there is a difference. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. You know, yeah, somebody says, like Martian Manhunter, too, Laurentio Roman. I think Wonder Woman is kind of the same thing.

You know, she is the, you know, Amazon, what's her, I know her, her, oh my God, why am I blanking, well, she's Amazonian. I know her disguise is Diana Prince, yeah. But what's her, what's her, she's not Wonder Woman among the Amazons. They don't say, hey, Wonder Woman, what do they? They just call her Diana, I think. they call her real name is dying yeah that's her real name so she that's what was not sounding right to me for whatever

but when she comes down here and she isn't wonder woman is she like selling is she work for Caldwell banker like what does she do like I don't know what is her yeah she does she because we never hear about that that's the way go job like the the daily planet reporter I mean the movies may have had something but like in the com from a comic's point of view I don't remember if she had a specific like it's iconic that Clark Ken is a reporter right we all know it and think it and he puts the glasses on, takes them off, all that stuff. But Diana Prince, I think she just, I mean, based on my childhood knowledge,

she just spins around a lot and turns into herself. Right, exactly. Yeah. I mean, you know, there's so many discussions back and forth going on in the chat right now about, well, you know, Superman was not born Clark Kent. Batman was not born Batman, right? They were, you know, they were personas that they took on. Right. Really, it all comes down to, and it's, it's the argument.

that Thomas was making of who the character is inside, not just the outward persona. Superman has been Superman from the point whether he was Cal L. coming to Earth. If you believe Bruce Wayne always had that vigilante spirit in him even as a child, then yeah, he's always been Batman. Same thing works for Superman. They all, you know. Exactly. So, yes. So I mean, you can easily, easily make both sides of of the argument if you take that factor of who they are inside. But I'm just talking about outward appearance.

Bruce puts on a mask, becomes a Batman. Superman takes off his Clark Kent costume and becomes Superman. One of the weird things about Marvel, specifically of the MCU, one thing that they did was they got used to the concept

of not having to have secret identities so much. So they're like, I am Iron Man. Oh, now Tony Stark's the same guy. Peter Parker has his moments. Different characters. That's a different genre. That got all wiped, right? That got all wiped because of Dr. Strange and created the Phase 5 multiverse saga because of that.

Sure, sure. But they're just a little more loose with it, whereas DC is, for whatever reason, DC is hardcore about secret identity. Every character's got to like, oh, no, keep it quiet. It was like it's a trope they just could not let go of. It had to be a thing. And that is like the, you know, when you're dealing with movie characters, because actors want people to see their faces, you've got to do weird things like say, well, I guess everybody knows that Natasha is Black Widow and everybody knows that Tony Stark is Iron Man so that we can, so that we don't have to have him fully in costume every time he's interacting with other people. Yeah, and you don't have to keep trying to retell those stories.

You just go for it, hit the ground run, and I actually think it's a good way to do it. I think so, too. It's also a great way to end Iron Man 1. It was a fantastic ending, so. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. It really was like a, oh, I guess we're just doing this. We're just saying who we are now.

Okay, cool. The weird one for me was always Thor. Because in his origin story, the actual original origin story, Dr. Don Blake, you know, gimpy Don Blake, or Don Blake? Why doesn't that sound? This sounds wrong now. I don't know. finds a staff, uses it as a walking stick, but then taps it on the ground and it turns into Mielner and he becomes Thor.

Oh, shit. I didn't know this. Yeah. And then... I hate that origin. Yes, for sure. And then they said, ooh, we hate that origin too. Yeah.

Rect-Con. Yeah. Exactly. Let's make him the Norse God and he just assumed the role of Don Blake when he was on Earth kind of thing. Wow. Tapped a stick and became Thor. They really kind of pushed that whole thing to the side and said, that's not going to be our real Thor origin story. No, you have to.

You have to push that aside. Yeah. Yeah. It's so like, oh, a staff that was secretly moulder the whole time? Yeah. What? Do you know that the Simon & Schuster guys, or not Simon and Schuster? Siegel.

Seagel. Yeah, those two guys that made Superman sold it for $130.30 to Detective Comics. Yeah. Idiots. I mean, that's just ridiculous. Not detective action comics, right? Oh, is it action at the time? Superman.

Yeah, you're right. So essentially, you know, DC or future DC. So they do that. And then they immediately go make a new character. I saw this little documentary about it. That new character was just like a comedy guy that had like a honking horn nose and he would open his chest and like a punching glove would come out on a thing and punch a bad guys in the face.

It was the stupidest shit you've ever seen. It was really dumb. Who was the, I'm sorry, it was Siegel and Schuster, not Simon, who was? Simon Schuster is the publisher. That's a different thing. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's what was confusing me.

I always say that when I think of it. There was a company that turned down Superman first before they went to D.C. I guess, oh, I'm sorry, you're right, detective, because they were detective comics at the time. That's what the D.C. stood for. Yeah. And they bought it for $130. Yeah. but there was a company that turned down like said no we don't think the superman thing is uh has got legs uh maybe go go sell it to somebody else who is that and why was 130 bucks too high a price i mean i realize we're talking like the 20s or whatever it was 30s i guess but still geez louises it's probably i know i mean somebody got somebody got fired i mean what is that like somebody never worked in this town it's like a thousand bucks today or something still too low like what are you doing

Anyway, to go look that up, you guys, you want to see that stupid comedian thing, comedy man or whatever they call them. That's funny with a honking nose. Yeah, nobody, nobody read that. They were like, what? This is so dumb. You miss the, I mean, look, those guys had a moment, a lightning and a bottle moment. They sold it for $130. And the lightning was done.

And the bottle was empty for the rest of their career. Done. No offense to them. They should get money for all the, you know, their families who want money for being the guys that started at all. Fine. They deserve it. Just like, you know, anybody who created any characters that are a big deal, you probably ought to pay them a little bit of your billions of dollars.

Will somehow James Gunn work Funny Man into a future? Let's hope not. DC a movie. Let's really hope not. I mean, I don't even know who owns rights to it. It's not a D.C. thing anyway, so I don't know who we would even have to get it from. Oh, right, because it wasn't D.C. This is after they left D.C. and created a new thing.

Yeah, and they weren't even. with DC they just sold oh that's right yeah they that's so that's crazy yeah they just sold it to them and then moved on because back then i think that's all this one this comics world was just i got an idea what do you think of this here's four panels and he's oh well buy it five hundred dollars see you later i guess i mean i feel i guess it's a different thing when you've got kirby and um detco and and those folks they actually worked for marvel they would basically do the things that somebody came in and sold the four panels to and said all right yeah we'll turn that into a Turn that into...

Yeah, their 130 came in the form of pay for a month's work or whatever. Nobody treated these guys right, in my opinion. All right, moving on. Let's get to Dottie about the MS-150. Oh, okay. Dear Simone and Buxton. I don't know where that comes from. Do you know the reference?

Simon & Buxton, yes, that's Peewee's big adventure. Simone is... Everybody's got a big butt. And Buxton is the rich kid who wants to... who wanted to buy the bike. I have clearly gone too long without seeing this film. Buxton. All I remember is the, what did he say on the mic?

Paging Mr. Herbin. Paging Mr. Harbin. That's all I can think of. Because nobody can do it as well as Dunaway. Dear Simone and Buxton, in my mind, Brian is finishing the MS-150 on a red-swinn-like pee-wee dream in the tour to France. Best of luck on the ride.

We got this prior to the ride. And also best wishes to the aunt Barb, this was actually. after we heard about her accident. So I thought this would be, it was very nice, Doddy. Thank you, Doddy. Thanks, Doddy. I see where she's going. What, I don't know if that's a real name or not.

Then the file is anonymous, so who knows. But that'd be great if it was. But do you know if how she- I'm a lone wolf, Doddy? How is Aunt Barb since the accident? She's doing better. I don't know if she's been back on her bike, but she took that whole week off to recover her PCP,

told her and confirmed that she had a concussion, which they didn't pick up or didn't do the tests for when she was in the, um, the ER. Uh, so, um, uh, so it's good, it's good that she didn't ride. She was really bummed. Like she was, she was tearing up. She came, she met me at the, she saw us off at the starting line. She met us at the finish line both days. And like everybody on the team, she, you know, waved them in and cheered them on. And, and, and that sort of thing. So she was bummed to have not have ridden, but she, you know,

obviously it's better for her that she didn't. Yeah, she needed to convales after her accident. She needed to convales, exactly. Now, I have not been back on the bike since the ride, but it's only been two weeks, and so I'm planning on getting on tomorrow and doing a ride.

Maybe even today after, God, it's already 84 degrees. Shit. I hate riding in the heat. I don't like it either. I don't like doing much in the heat except just chilling, like sitting in it. Like a beach, great.

Even an amusement park that's got water rides, terrific, or even a water park for that matter. No problem, but... I do a hike, I think, but I wouldn't do a bike ride. I don't know if I do something that... Depends on the hike and elevations. I guess if it's a hike in the mountains, you've got shade from the trees and stuff like that. Yeah, and usually about a 10-degree drop in temperature and stuff like that. Yeah.

Brian, you got a little something here. What's this about? I do. So tech drums and rock and roll or tech drum rock and roll sent me a message. on Discord and said, here's an interesting topic. I'm going to read what he put verbatim and then we'll talk about it. He says, as I'm sure you know, there's always an intense debate about pineapple and other non-traditional toppings on pizza.

I think there's a bit of racism in this. Hear me out. Have you heard these same criticisms about tacos or sushi? There are tons of varieties that have no basis in anything close to their roots. Just a thought. I don't know about racism. Yeah, unless you're maybe. Because I don't think, I mean, obviously there's racism against Italians, but not to the degree that there are against some other countries, including Latinos and tacos.

Sure. Is it, are you suggesting that it's selective racism against Italians? Well, by saying we're putting pineapple on pizza, we're going to get the, that's how we'll get those dirty Italians. I don't think that's how it works. I think what it is is people go, hey, what if we put pineapple on there? That might be all right. Oh, I kind of like it. let's do it. And then it gets tweaked and reformed and whatever, you take traditional foods

from other places and you put them in other cultures and those cultures have their way with it. You know, I ate a Korean burrito the other day. Right, right. Bogogi burrito is so good. It's fusion. It's a place over here called the Asian Cajun, and it is a mix of those two kinds of food. Yeah, this is that whole fusion thing, right? So I don't think, I mean, unless you have some specific examples, tech drum, rock and roll, I don't know where the actual racism would be.

Now, that isn't to say that cuisine and racial issues can't come up, or in the case of Italians, regional issues, because they're not really a race. But, you know, these things can happen, I'm sure. Right. But, like, you know, like, the creation of the fortune cookie. It happened here in the States. It was Japanese people.

Right. Which is also weird because mostly you eat these fortune cookies in Chinese food. right right so that's all complicated but i don't think any of them were going ah you damn japanese are you stupid i don't think that was it i think it was just this just way stuff evolves and changes my my thinking is that the hawaiian or the pineapple on pizza became so controversial because it's so gross that see exactly there we go because of that because of the the people who like it really like it and the people who don't like it really don't like it yeah as opposed to to a Bogogi

Taco or a which like a ground beef sushi. I don't know. That's a really bad example because I don't think anybody would want that. I'd try it. I'd give it a shot. I would try it too. But there's none of those things have received the level of of popularity on the side

that likes it versus the side that doesn't to make it controversial. I think it's just more that it's it's really well liked by the people who like it and really hated by the people who don't like it as opposed to tacos or sushi having it's a point of our argument and that's it i think that's simply it and i and i'm just going to go ahead and plant my flag once again and say pineapple on pizza is disgusting that's again and i will take your slices and send them my way i'll have your share even my brother like this angry korean place they do really they have really good traditional ingredients, but they do it in these fusion ways. And my brother, Matt, who was kind of a purist on Korean food and is from Korea, I said, hey, Matt, I got that Bogogi burrito over at the angry Korean. He goes, oh, they don't have anything over there that's real Korean. Like he was getting all grinchy about it. And I'm like, all right, well, whatever. Eat what

you want to eat is the bottom line. If you want to put, you want to put fruit on your freaking pizza, you go right ahead, Brian. Do it. Was Greek, so like, one of the of the places near us makes the what guy was it, Gumbas makes this incredible Greek pizza with with feta and

the shaved lamb beef meat and and peppercini's and stuff like that. It is absolutely amazing. Now, Greece being so much closer to Italy than America is, did Greek, like was there Greek

adoption of the pizza, the flat bread experience before it made its way over to the States? I have no idea. Is there more of a reason that Greek pizza feels the more allowed? Yeah.

Yeah, why is that? Yeah. That's a weird thing. We have any Greeks? I bet we do. I have a Greek listener or too. Oh yeah, I'm sure we do. When you said Gumbas, I just thought

with this guy here. I know, yeah. He's a little, little Mario Gumba. They're bastards. I don't like a Gumba. And I don't mean, I don't mean the Italian. Why do they look like a little short? Short penises.

Because they, I think they're pulling our leg over there. I think they, it was always a penis. That's what I think. Okay. Thanks, Shiguro Miyamoto sitting around going, how can I put a penis in here? And we don't just mean Bowser. All right. Hey, everybody.

Let's get straight to some news. We got some news to cover, not much because we don't have a ton of time. We got Wendy coming up, but we're going to get some of it in. So enjoy. It's time for the news brought to you by. Brought to you by. Girl, you have no faith in medicine. Well, you need to listen to the medicine.

show a weekly look at modern medicine in your role in your own health straight poop from dr tollbert and scott episode three is out now in the first six episode season and get it all at the medical dot show yep go check it out we had a great discussion yesterday about the changes that this bill introduced that got past oh good the big beautiful the big beautiful bill it's beautiful yeah there's some garbage in there and specifically stuff that is will affect a whole lot of people when it comes to insurance and availability of medical care for elderly, the poor, all that sort of thing. So we break some of that down, but we also talk about the new schedule for the,

they call it the schedule, but they basically recommendations for this year when it comes to vaccines, for kids, adults, everything else, break it all down so it's understandable. And you're not just having to rely on some shitty headlines to try to understand what's going on in the world. All right, let's get to this first story. Very cool. Yeah, I got to listen to that. People with swamp crotch keep setting off TSA alarms. This is a thing.

I mean, this is setting off a lot of alarms, really, swamp crotch. Every alarm I have is being rung right now. Yeah, yeah. People with swamp crotch, they call it, are setting off these alarms. A woman flying for the first time in 15 years, she may not have showered in 15 years, recently shared that both airports she passed through flagged her groin area during the screening scan

or security scan she has no piercings no medical devices no pockets while her pockets were empty she was one pocket she had one pocket the only possible culprit

her sweaty crotch says the article she posted about the experience on Reddit quickly found out she wasn't alone other travelers chimed in with similar stories pointing out that one security

officer allegedly called swamp crotch the term might sound ridiculous but it lines up with how the scanners work. So here's the deal. TSA's millimeter wave technology, that's what it's called, doesn't just detect metal. It also detects country and bluegrass and just it responds to anything that disrupts the signal. That includes moisture. I hate that term. Yeah. Moisture. I really don't like it. I don't like it. I'll take moisture over just the word

moist. Growing up, hey, fellow, fellow Utahans, a bunch of you are going to relate to this. Growing up, You hear a lot of adults go, we're so grateful for this moisture we're having. I hate that term. It makes me want to burn things. Good thing there's moisture to put the fire out because I want to burn stuff when I hear moisture. I mean, they'll say, you know, the weather guy will say, well, there's a lot of moisture in the air today. You're probably going to see some rainstorms in the afternoons, blah, blah, blah. I'll take the word moisture a hundred times before I hear the word moist.

That's true. Give me the tour over the list. I don't want moist on pizza, okay? No. Keep your moist off my pizza. No. A moist pizza will set off an alarm at the TSA. Yeah.

It says here, TSA expert Shana Malvini Redden. That's a cool name. Told Reader's Digest. I'm sorry, what? Reader's digest. It's still a thing. Excellent. Holy shit.

Good for you guys still doing it. I mean, my mom used to have stacks of these by her toilet. She loved, loved those things. They're the perfect toilet read because, you know, you can get through funny oh god what like like there was the whole one about military it was like military little little um anecdotes about funny things that happen to people in the military oh right life in these times or something like that i can't remember what the the segments were but uh or the sections but um they would some i sometimes have like a like a little short sci-fi story from

some up and coming author it would be an abridged version of a right like either something written specifically for Rita's Digest or a humoring uniform. Thank you, Dr. Calhoun. That's the one I was trying to remember. But sometimes they'd have like a... Is that like a whole section in there? Like the uniform? Yes, humoring uniform.

It was like one page of funny military anecdotes. Wow. Yeah. Well, it'd be like, ah, this grenade fell in my pants. And before you knew it, like that kind of thing? Yeah, exactly. This guy in the mess hall, let me tell you. They never started with, I used to think these stories were fake.

I never thought one of these, never thought I'd be writing into humoring uniforms. Never, yeah, I never thought it would happen to me. Anyway, ask your parents, everybody. So anyway, it says here, the only thing, so it's not the only thing that can set these things off. So apparently a lot of kind of build-up, moisture, whatever business can be a problem. But it's not just that. It says that feminine products, snug clothing, even body shape can trick the scanner. Geez, why doesn't mind set it off every five minute?

It says it is supposed to accommodate a range of body types, but the reality is some people, especially those with fuller figures, get flagged more often. Now, I do have a friend who's a fairly large, large dude, big old dude, just the way he's always been, just a big guy. He went through TSA once, and it went off,

and it was because he was a big dude. That was his whole thing. And they said to him, And they say, hey, you're just a big fella. Sorry about that. And he's like, thanks. Thanks for rubbing it in. Anyway, it's a fun story.

It's like you don't need that kind of, that kind of humiliation and stuff, right? Yeah, I don't. They don't. Nobody should. Yeah. Although you don't have to take shoes off anymore. Do you hear about that? That's the thing.

Yes, yes. As of yesterday or day before it, yeah. I feel like that also messed with the quick line, because that was part of the advantage of the quick line so we get another benefit to swap in for the quick line or is it just well now nobody quick line there like whatever it is the yeah TSA precheck whatever is the priority thing you pay 80 bucks a year for yeah it used to be one of the eight bucks for five years oh is it really yeah I never did it it's cheap that is cheap and it gets you through some other things like you get you get other lines shorter lines and that sort of thing but I mean the the not taking

your shoes off was a nice benefit yeah and now uh despite the lawsuit that has been filed by Quentin Tarantino, it is now no longer required when you go to the TSA. I'm looking forward to my first flight route. I have to take off my shoes. I'm stoked because that also means I don't have to bring open toes. I don't want to wear. You can wear some piece. I wear whatever I want to wear. We're real shoes for once. Because usually there's slip-ons because I don't want to be bothered with all the tie in the laces and stuff. Now I can just go in there with some freaking combat boots on, man. Yeah. I don't have a pair. I don't know on those. uh snake speaking of planes

snakes on a plane was a movie it was a movie it was very meamy you know probably I think the memes around it were better than the movie itself I think they were counting on the memes propelling the movie to better success than it got it did not actually succeed in the theater

even though the internet thought it did well a snake on a plane delayed a flight to Australia or in Australia oh an Australian domestic flight was delayed for two hours after a stowa snake was found in the plane's cargo hold. I think we have a video with this. Not video. Oh, really?

Photo, sorry. Okay. Let's pull it up and take a look here. It's an AP article. There it is. Not much of a snake. Oh, my gosh. He's a little tiny. He's a little tiny fella. Yeah. For an Australian story, I was hoping for a big old fat python with like...

It's not a snake. I'll show you a snake. Yeah, I want like Lucky Phil's leg hanging out of that thing. That's nothing. No. There are spiders there on that plane that could eat it. It's no big deal. They're Australians. that shouldn't have affected the flight whatsoever.

It's like, oh, we got another snake on board. Excellent. Everybody say hi to Wrigley. Hello, Wrigley. You know what I really don't like about it is I don't like the way the cargo area looks. It gives me the willies, and I can't explain. I don't know why that is. Something about the just a dirty, banged up hull.

All the scuff marks on the side from people's bags all constantly banging against it. Like, I get a real claustrophobic vibe out of that shot. I don't like it. No, sir, I don't. Well, anyway, that was the thing. People are upset about the RFK picture on the side of your, on the side of that. Oh, let me tell you what I have no control over is what the AP puts over there. I don't know.

It's not me. What's the article? I don't know. We got to keep the snakes out of the cargo holes. I'm going to go gargle some toilet water. Will that fit in my brain? RFK Jr. promoted a food company. He says we'll make America Health.

their meals are ultra-processed. Well, okay. Ultra-processed. Wait, are you saying Raisin Man's full of shit? I can't believe it. Yeah. He is trying to get food dyes out of our food.

And the candy companies are like, uh, people don't want a bunch of white skittles. No, they don't. Also, it'd be nice if he actually had some proof that the dies are a problem.

That's the problem as he doesn't. Right, exactly. You're sterile. Cheryl? Cheryl, I call her. Uh-huh. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back from said break we'll talk to wendy we got an email we got some stuff and she is back in her

homeland of minnesota i guess technically it's her homeland here but uh she went there right anyway uh we'll check in with her and see what this thing's about before that though a song brian you have a little selection yeah if you are a fan of the traveling band a band called the traveling band t t b as a people in the know call them um joe dutteridge who is a member of that band has got his first solo album as the band named Later Youth. So you look for it under Later Youth Not as Joe Dutteridge. It's got his brand

new debut solo album. It's called Living History and it's really, really good. It is some straightforward fun power pop. This is the first single from the album. It's called Make It Right. Here is Later Youth. Bye. Right

There's a dead elephant in the room Singing all your favorite tunes I'm starting to choke on the fuse It's spoiling the atmosphere Honey, I know that I lie And that's why the elephant died I can only apologize I'm a poacher, baby

Six years and we're still holding on Till the little spark in our eyes But it's fallen from the skies I just want to make it right I just want to make it right I just want to make it right I just want to make it right I just want to make it right

I really want to make it right I just want to make you mine I know we've been here before and there is no point in our skin the stars to align once more if we're not going to be serious honey I know you're turned tight and that's why the elephant died

I'm here to heal the divide I've approached you made it Six years and we're still holding on Now the day goes past it on side We were holding up too tight But I just wanna make it right I just want to make it right I just want to make it right

I just want to make it right I just want to make it right really want to make this right I just want to make you my mind future hoops maybe we should make a plan i hope you understand that i'm trying to be a better man if we can live without it then it's time to talk about it there's nowhere left you hide i just want to make it right i just want to make it right i just want to make it right i just want to make it right I just want to make it right

I just want to make it right I really want to make things right I just want to make it my mind I wonder how many vampires have been run over by people that just use their mirrors to back up their cars. You're my best friend forever. And we're back. Who is that one more time?

Sure. That is Joe Dutteridge, better known, in this context, as later youth. A brand new album called Living History just came out last week. Make it big, everybody. Go listen to it. Support it, stream it. It's excellent. It's really, really good.

That's the song, Make It Right. What are you listening to right now that you would, that is like your go-to at the moment? Do you have anything where you're sort of like doing certain places? I mean, I've been gravitating back to First Aid Kit a lot because I like it. I've been listening to, it's something I played earlier this week. Let me jump back to my home page, or home in Apple Music, because it shows me what I've been listening to a lot lately.

That electric avenue, the Moon Runner 83. Oh, yeah. That glycerin. Really? Oh, my gosh. That's good. That whole album is really, really good. it's really trippy 80s

genuine 80s sound doesn't feel like somebody just trying to sound like the 80s so that thing is really good let's see what else have I been listening to that was for the show that was for the show

it's kind of it like everything else has just been me putting in stuff for doing work for the shows yeah I've got I just have not been able to get enough of classic 70s rock right now and I don't know

Oh, really? I don't know what that's about. I think it's just this nostalgic, take me back to my kids. Oh, yeah, you were listening to Fleetwood Mac when we talked the other day. Yeah, I crank it when I'm in the shower. Yeah. Well, here you go again. You say you want your freedom.

Exactly. This is all correct. Hey, we have on the line with us, my sister, who was just here, but is now not here. She's back home. Wendy, what's going on? How are you? How do I sound? You sound fine.

How are you doing? I'm just happy every time at work. Are you on your phone or a computer, or where are you? my computer oh i think you're okay what's what mic are you on tap tap the thing that you think is your mic yeah i think that's your mic yeah that sounds like it sounds like it sounds like you uh okay good to have you here how how how how how how was the trip home and everything since everything good good good uh my elbow is so weird thank you dr colbert for your concern and it's good more ways to go but good i mean you want to get injured ill on a trip nobody nobody nobody wants

nobody wants that yeah did we talk about this on the show when you got like a weird we did talk about it yeah oh yes yeah she got this crazy infection when i saw her her elbow was like a elbow was like a big old tennis ball on the side of her thing and it got better the very next day i saw it so obviously the the antibiotics were working but uh yeah no matter how clean your hot tub looks Perhaps avoid stuff. Right. That hot tub might have something in it that's going to kill you. Two down to 11 to find out what it is.

Get this. So yesterday I was with a friend who's a dermatologist, and I just had him look at it. And he goes, I think it's actually bursitis. I think you hit your elbow on the hike. And it sprung a leak because the way it's formed at the end, now it's just one ball at the end. And that the antibiotics were just creating anti-inflammation. Oh. So I got multiple opinions going at this point.

And I'm just glad I'm not in a hospital on like liquid antibiotics. No kidding. Except you'd still be here and we could hang out and stuff still. That's true. Because that was fun. We had a great time. We did. It was super fun.

I don't know how you played pickleball without that elbow hurting more. Yeah, I'm right-handed, so it was fine. Oh, that's true. At your left. Yeah. You know what? I say that about life. I'm right-handed, so it's fine.

I say that a lot. It's fine. I don't mind if something happens to my right hand. My left elbow, who cares? Yeah, who cares about your left one? Screw that thing. Well, anyway, it's good to have you here. Hey, do me a favor and, like, flick your cable.

I think something's got power on it or something. Yeah, it's like. Now it's moving. There we go. Is that better? Yep, that's further. It's better. Yeah.

You got something close to a power supply or something. I don't know what I was. Are you talking to me? Yeah. Yeah, we're talking to you. I don't see anybody else here, so you must be talking to me. I haven't done anything, so I don't know what you're talking about. No, I just met that here.

Oh, really? Is it a wireless, well, I know that, but is it a wireless headset thing you're wearing? Or is it like a plugged-in thing? Move here. Oh, there you go. That's better. Okay, I put it on full repair. So, prepare something is being repaired.

Keep it on full repair then. Yeah, we'll leave it right freaking there. Sorry, got it. No, you're good. It's all good. This is why we have the technology. Damn it, I dropped my thing. Hold on.

Oh, no. It's all right. We're good. Hey, let's get to it. We got an email here, Wendy dug up, and we're going to go ahead and read it. this is let's see dear scott and brian it starts how'd you get this one if it can't i guess you can still get emails with our names they can put whatever they want in the dear uh part that's true everybody can put whatever they want you're right you're absolutely right i just texted

the top isn't texted it to you i did not know what you're talking about well the top says dear scott and brian not dear windy so that's the part i'm trying to figure out oh yeah yeah yeah well i get those too yeah you know you know that's true anyway it says i'd like to submit a tale a little tale for Therapy Thursday, otherwise known as how I tried to fix my life with a book and ended up apologizing to a chair. All right. That's pretty interesting way to start. We got a writer on our hands. I'm already fascinated by that. Yeah. Kind of don't need much more. But anyway, let's go on. He says, so here's what happened. I bought one of those radical self-love meets executive functioning books. You probably know what that is, Wendy. I have no idea what that means. I do. Oh, yeah. Because I thought it was time to get my life together. Spoiler, I was not. Or it was not. The book told me to speak kindly to myself all day out loud. So I did for a week, like a deranged yoga instructor trapped in a target.

I don't know why it's a target. This person's working on a tight five. Yeah. I like it a lot. Anyway, it says, then it escalated. I started arguing with my inner critic in the car, praising myself for making sandwiches. And once I said, you're doing great to my own reflection in a tinted car window, which turned out not to be a window, which turned out not, or sorry, turned out to have a

live human behind it at a red light just staring honestly you should write books is real good yeah um i was spiraling by day 10 i had fully gaslit myself any bad mood you're not really sad you have you just haven't had enough electrolytes any failure this is just a growth opportunity i was in a toxic positive positivity spiral of my own creation eventually i cracked i had a good ugly cry in my laundry room, the best acoustics, and scheduled, this guy's cracking me up, and scheduled a real therapy session where my therapist asked very gently, quote, have you been talking to inanimate objects again, unquote? Anyway, I'm fine now, mostly, that I think the chair still wants an apology.

Thanks for being the best background noise I could ever ask for while spiraling, spiral cleaning my kitchen. Your fan in the land of 10,000 emotions, JPS, tell Brian I tried that powdered peanut butter he likes it tastes like chalk made made a wish to food to be food i i disagree that stuff's good brian's right i disagree that i like it i think it's good i don't know where jake up the impression that i like that stuff but i've got some and hammond sent me a bunch and i'll use it i actually use it more in other things like so i'll have greek yogurt i'll do a little bit of powdered peanut butter in there to to give it some fun flavor but um but as far as like saying oh i'm

making a P.B. and J sandwich, let me start with the peanut butter powder. No, I don't do that. Yeah. And I, and I don't know. Can you even do that? Just get it wet? I think so. Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. That's how you do the powdered peanut butter. It's like rehydrated. Yeah, you're supposed to rehydrate it. It feels very MRE, you know, it's like army food or something. But I've had it and I like it. I think it's all right. But I may be the weird one. Anyway, Wendy, we're talking about a little bit of self, gaslighting going on here. Yeah.

Well, self-help stuff a little bit, right? It feels like it's still a good thing to do. Like you're, you know, pumping yourself up with positivity is so much better than the alternative. Yeah, but then you, the worry is you go so far with it, you end up being that dog with the coffee in the burning room, meme, saying, this is fine. Yeah. Or this is fine.

Yeah. And I think that's maybe the worry here is that he, you know, if the house is burning, you can't go, I'm okay, everything's fine. Too many things are slathered over with fake peanut butter. You don't see the cracks underneath them. There you go. Basically. Yeah.

Right. Right. I mean, okay, the sentiment is common, right? Which is like, I got to get my life together. So I'm going to try a new thing or do a thing I've heard about. Or, you know, the algorithm 100% is tracking you and knows you're not doing well. So then provides advertising to you that's going to fix all. your problems, right? So, I mean, we're, we're, this is normal. It's normal to have different times

of our lives be difficult and different, right? I mean, we're all walking around as that dog with a coffee muck with the fire behind us. That is absolutely happening, at least in this country at this moment, right? Sure. And so what you are doing or what you need, it's hard to know. We are not awesome at self-awareness. Some people are more self-aware than others. Some people really wish they could turn down their self-awareness. Other people have zero we've all met them you know so our ability to really see what is going on for us or what we need can be hard especially if you were sort of trained that that was a selfish thing to do or you know recently having some conversations with someone who could really use some therapy

and had a really difficult childhood and you know the thing we talked about was yeah but therapists are going to therapy or for anyone but me and my family because that was the message you know so we could joke about it but to actually go get over that hump and have somebody else enter your world and think how handy that is if you grew up in a dysfunctional family to be like you know what the the few people who could ever help us are devils so you just restrict that as a concept and now here's this person in their mid 30s going I can't get help because it's so deeply ingrained in me, that's not the place to get help, right? So I'm not saying everyone turns in self-help books when that's the case, but often the most accessible

kind of help when I don't feel like my life is good is to go to the self-help aisle. I just want to make one obnoxious comment about self-help books written for men are called business books. So just FYI. Self help is usually targeted to women, and then we just don't call men's self-help books what they are. Is that true? I guess I've never really looked at the aisle at Barnes & Noble or whatever, but is that how it's weighted? I don't know. Have you read any business books? I've never, you know what? Good question. I haven't read any since the 90s when it was, you know, seven habits of highly effective people. You tell me that's not self-help. Yeah. Oh, totally 100%. It's just sexism, guys. I'm telling you about misogyny. Let me explain to you.

And that's some home, that's some sweet home grown Utah misogyny and that seven habits does. Oh, heck yeah, that is. Local boy. Yeah. Yeah. And James. Covey, is that right?

Covey, James Covey. Covey, that's right. Covey is a different guy. Yeah, a different guy. James Comey is not. He was the former whatever with. H.BI guy. Director.

Yeah, yeah. That's a fun reference. Let's not go there. Okay. Stephen Covey is who you're looking for. And that's, yeah, he's a local, local guy. But the idea is that, oh, you need help and how do I get help? Well, the ones marketed typically the women are in the self-help pile.

And then the business books are just cover for self-help is all I'm saying. I'm not saying there aren't good business books. I'm just saying how to be effective and have good relationships is hidden in their business books. Because, A, there's like, I don't need help problem, right? So when you feel like things are really falling apart, It's like, what do you do? So a self-help book in this case, what did they call it? Oh, I mean, that was a joke, but how did I try to fix my life with a book?

What did they say? Radical self-love meets the executive functioning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's kind of tongue-in-cheek of like, you know, imagine actually people love themselves. And it would be radical. It would change a lot of things, right? So tongue-in-cheek would be awesome if we were all doing it harder to get. there just by saying out loud all the things that you're doing well, right? And Brian, you

mentioned this. And it's true. There is evidence that how we say things to ourselves and obviously how we even say things out loud matter. And so whatever this book actually was is probably referencing this idea that you need to change the way you talk and the way you interact in the world, right? We have a negativity bias. This is a human survival instinct to see something bad coming predict something bad you know you get 100 compliments one insult you're going to remember the insults our brain will actually it's sticky why do we do that by the way it saves us why i understand i understand the idea that we there's a lot of things about our behavior that has to do with our survival but what why that why the negativity thing is it just a way to say

well it because it's all bad or i only remember the bad one to be safe from that i have to hyper focus on that so i don't experience it again yeah i think that's it exactly you're your brain is basically saying, oh, I need protection. You don't need protection from when somebody compliments. You need protection when somebody insults you. And protection from what? What do you guys think you're actually needing protection from?

Oh, my gosh. Hurt feelings. Yeah. Probably that, but also, I mean, from a... Did you just sing the hot pockets? No. I was singing the flight of the concourse, so I have a comfort feeling. Either one works.

Either one is great. Herod Felix. I'm trying to think. It's like a lot of things. There's just like primal survival stuff that in a modern context is almost like the appendix. We don't really need it, but we think we do because we're evolutionarily that way. So instead of saber tooth breathing down our neck, we get panicked because some place is dark and maybe there's a saber tooth there and our ancient mind still feels that way, even though the risk of a saber tooth being in there is really low. And then we apply it to things that are also low.

what if there's a serial killer in the basement and he could be down there you never know like I think it's all just in service of I need to breathe another day you know yeah so that is probably like the global function yeah but when we narrow it down which is also still survive survival response is that you need your tribe to live you can't get food enough alone you can't create shelter enough alone even take that into modern context we need other people to thrive and so the thing this is actually protecting you from is rejection from the group right because rejection from the group meant death and banishment abandonment any of those words work and so what we have often in somebody's childhood is um this is why therapy's like different from say life coaching or a

self-help book is they might be able to ask some of like a health self-help book would ask questions maybe to be curious about your younger life but therapists and psychotherapy in particular is the training is to go help find out where these wounds took place and how to heal from them because they set up a pattern of responses and reactivity from that moment onward. So you hear, you have a weird face in third grade and you are, I mean, that is like a permanent inscribed in your brain when anyone's looking at you, well, they must think have a weird face. Like it's, it's like an imprint on a blank page. Okay. And, and, And it meant, I may not be loved or wanted or needed or part of things or, you know, it has that

flavor to it. Even it may just be a one-off. And maybe it was a kid who has issues with his own face and was trying to project on you or hurt you. We don't know, right? But the stickiness has this motive. The motive is if I remember the negative, I can avoid that trap in the future. I can manage, because I know the threat, I can then adjust versus a compliment like Brian's saying

just meant you're one of us and we're happy you're here. So there is no threat there. So our brains don't need to remember that. If you only get negative and then somebody gives you a compliment, you'll remember that. It will hang on to a positive thing if it's scarce because it needs so desperately. So it does the opposite with a limited amount of positive. that will mean a lot. So when you meet people who are like,

you are the first person who said this to me or your kindness to me meant so much, that's really telling about how much maybe social precariousness they have been living in and group precariousness. Yeah, that's why when you read like, I don't know,

you do some post in some social place and it sort of takes off and you get a ton of comments and most of them are positive. It's like, oh, yeah, there's congratulations or whatever it is, you know, Facebook post. And then you get one guy, one guy out of like a thousand pops in and goes, your face looks like a potato or whatever.

Yeah, it stays with you. It sticks with you in a way that doesn't make sense because the thousand other people should be the ones that you go, but a thousand of you love this. One of you thinks I look like a potato. Why is he so stuck in my cheese? You know? I've never understood that. So this is good for me too because I'm, you know, this happens a lot on the internet.

The internet is all about tribes and these reactions and our stupid preservation and all that stuff. And none of it's actually real in the sense of like no one living a continent away will be able to not let you get the food at the store, right? Like our biological safety is not at play, but our brains are, this ancient brain, it will not know the difference. It cannot know the difference. I don't know. Maybe in another couple thousand years it will know the difference. Maybe it doesn't take that long. I don't know.

But we have this just large scale experiment where we are taking the fragility of survival egos because our egos are responding to that, right? To survival, to can we make it? And why do we feel so good when we're accepted and loved? And then why do we feel so bad when we're rejected? Well, it's because of this, right? And then we just play it out on. on a global scale behind, hidden behind screens is pretty nuts and I think it's harmed a lot

of people. I think, I often think about, like, famous people or whatever, just don't read anything as a strategy because it's, can you imagine every day actually reading what is being said about you would be just agonizing. I don't, I don't know how anyone has actually ever done If they have, I think they, to survive or have mental health intact, they must stop or something. Anyway, so it sounds like this person is like, you know, I'm going to figure my stuff out and I'm going to do it by saying positive things out loud all the time. So it's just very funny writer, obviously, saying, you're doing great to a random person

in a car. It's hilarious. But notice, and this is the thing I think is fascinating about this email is, like I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it all day. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to congratulate myself. I'm going to be proud of myself. It's like a counteraction to maybe an inner voice that's a critic that's saying you're doing a terrible job. You just got to be louder. You got to talk to yourself louder than the critic. Yeah. Right. And then finding they finding themselves feeling totally gaslit by themselves of like I just need more

electrolytes. That's not I'm not sad. You know. And that it's that positive, toxic positivity, it doesn't work, which we'll talk about in just one second. But I do love the actual answer was not necessarily doing a formula that maybe works for someone great. I bet someone else could read this book, do these things, talk out loud to the stuff and feel the difference and it works for them. Awesome. I hope that's true. But there are definitely many people that that does not work for because it doesn't address any of the reasons they need to talk that way for themselves. It doesn't address why there is a critic in their head screaming at them that they're bad. Right. And so that's what self-hab can't do. So if it works for you,

kudos. Happy that exists for somebody. But for others, it usually maybe has to go deeper. So I love that the actual thing that made them feel better was to cry in the laundry room. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to ask you of this entire email, what do you think is the most healthy, obviously a lot of its tongue and cheek, but what's the most healthy thing here? And I was guessing you'd say the big, to having a good cry in the laundry room. Yeah. And there's a reason. A, because the acoustics are satisfying. That is, there's, they're not wrong, even though just being funny, right? They're not wrong about getting a feel good need met and a good cry is one of those things. Right. For most, people a good cry makes everything feel better and usually you're holding it in for so long that it's a really big cry right or um like that is our body's way of releasing stress and tension that it's been building and holding like that's one of it's few things sleeping really deeply is another one another one is screaming another one is you know these rage rooms go go do one of those um being in water being in nature like we have a lot of versions

of where our body will lead us to, like, its needs getting met will actually lead us to our emotions. Oh, do you hear the dog? Yeah. Got it's a dog. He forgot his name. Jason? What's the name in the dog?

Oh, that's how it wakes up? Like, huh? Yeah. I mean, surely someone's at the door or something. But, no, his name's Tommy. Tommy. Why do I always think it's Jason for a dog? He's hilarious.

That's a great name for a dog, Jason. Jason, Jason. Jason, get over here. Anyway. So that idea, though, of like meeting your need. So, okay, so we have a need of we've got some internal dialogue that is really negative and needs some addressing. And so I would, it sounds like this person already has a therapist. I would be like, yo, it's time to talk about this. Like, let's work on where is the source of this inner critic? Okay. So really quick, I had a client the other day who is on the spectrum and has some other neurodivergence. And we were talking about, her inner voices and she's got an echo voice that like she'll be like oh i'm hungry it maybe a sandwich and then the voice immediately is like jimmy johns uh i bet there's a subway nearby like it just is like a google on fire in her head and it means she can't maintain conversations very well because she has this voice jumping in with lots of ideas yeah and it's not mean it's just

like an obnoxious a i response or something right and so we're talking about how to navigate that. And so, and her boyfriend is a lovely human being who has no voices at all in his head. And so he's very patient, but he literally, we joke that he's Emmett from the Lego movie. It's just prodigiously empty in there, right? And so this might be helpful for people to hear. Everyone has a very different experience with this. And you might have a good friend.

So ask, ask the people in your life, what did they hear in their head? and you might, you know, bite off more than you can chew here. But some people just really don't. There's not a lot of things happening. And then I had a client after that who talked about how hers is not thoughts. It's like if she has to try to create something in there, it's like words. She might see words. She's not going to hear any voice or hear a conversation, right?

So everyone's really different. So you should find out with the people in your life, especially the really, really happy ones. they probably don't have many voices in there all the way to, you know, we get all the way to the far end of that spectrum and those voices are so loud they're taking over and we would call that schizophrenia or we would call a multiple personality disorder is where one of those voices sort of takes over, right? Those are really, that's rare, schizophrenia is slightly less rare, but we're all on the same brain spectrum in various forms. So this person clearly has a very negative one and that would be the first thing I'd say go to your therapist and talk about can we

get to know this voice understand it see if we can quiet it see if yeah instead of trying to instead of trying to scream louder than it yeah out yell it then figure out how to quiet it right right and the crying in the laundry room really reminds me of just the strain of trying to fix yourself alone right we're not meant to do that we're meant to be witnessed right we're meant to be in healthy, good company. And sometimes people will describe, like, I'm the first one getting healthy in my family system, and I'm so alone.

And that's hard because no one else understands what you're even talking about or what you're going through. I think about people who are generationally breaking the chain of abuse or trauma or, you know, they're going to feel very alone as they're doing that because the people around them maybe aren't in that same category. So you can find your people.

Let's see, the Internet's good and bad, right? You can find your people online. You can find other sources of folks who have done the work you're trying to do so you don't feel as alone because we need each other. So talk to your therapist. Don't maybe go talking to car windows and. Car windows that aren't car windows. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, this is, you know, we've talked about the voices, your inner critic or your inner guide or whatever before. Just the place that it's most prevalent for me that I wish I could get it to shut up. Is it 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock in the morning when I wake up? And it's saying, you know, you probably should get this project you've been thinking about doing. You should probably get started on that. Like, it's all, that's the time that it takes over and it's got the most.

It's a pass master. Yeah. Yeah, and it comes flooding in, too. It's like suddenly at 3 o'clock I'll wake up. It's like, I just have to pee like a normal person. right and but my brain's going no what about 400 other things to think about right exactly I know this is on your to do list already but let me remind you what needs to get done today it's like no I'll I'll deal with that when I sit down at my desk thank you very much because I use the the no better you time management system and I prepared my to do list the day before that's right yes and maybe what you do to do in the middle of the night is use the sleep whiskey oh yeah the sleep technique of giving it a confusing story right because you're right right wakes up to this already formed thought, it feels so real

and, like, I have no choice but to follow this. It's like turn off that channel and turn it to the white static channel. It's like when you... It keeps your brain away. Right, right. Yeah, it's like when you had me do or had us do the thing where you wake up, you come up with the word,

and then you come up with words for each of the letters, to begin with each of the letters in that word. Yeah. Yeah. Just give your brain nonsense. Because it... Basically give busy work. It would have been working on this for a while. Okay, and there's a new one. I haven't told anyone this yet, and I have tested it enough times.

And I'm not kidding it. TMS exclusive. Knocks you out. So I'm worried you guys are going to fall asleep right now when I do it. But, okay, this is so weird, and I don't even know who I saw do it. And then I tried to follow up on some research on it to see if it was legit, and I couldn't find any. So I don't know if this is actually legit. But, I mean, eye movement is a big thing because it's,

part of how our brains process, right? So I think I've told you I know my kid's lying because he looks up and to the left every time. Or when someone's recalling a story, they look down to the right or whatever. You hope he never figures out that you know that, by the way. He is so obvious. He knows.

He stopped lying because I can play poker with that kid. It's a dead giveaway. Okay, so it's eye movement. And so what you're going to do is, so you wake up and you've got the, Brian, shouldn't you be doing your paperwork or whatever? Right. And you can just be like, yo, friend, what's up?

I'm going to do a cool trick now. And what you do is you, so your eyes would be closed, right? So don't open up for that. But you're going to do it. I don't know. You guys on camera, but you could show everybody. Yeah, we are on camera. First, I want you to just follow my instructions.

So keep your eyes open. But people, you would do this with your eye closed. Okay. So you look straight up. Now you look down. Are we moving our heads or just our eyes? No, sorry, just your eyeballs. Okay.

So your eyeballs go up and then your eyeballs go down. now your eyeballs go to the right and then rotate them like a sun like a half moon to the left like I'm rolling them like you're doing a yeah they're going up to the left

and now you're going down to the right so you're making a circle in that direction and now reverse it and go down to the left and then over to the right so it's up down right left basically A B

yeah yeah up down up down A B B A B A A. Yeah. I love it. Okay. So when you do this, you go up down, A, B, B, A. Okay. It doesn't have to be totally round. You can just go back and forth. I find the round really helps. Anyway, you do this. And I'm telling you, the first time you will do this, you'll be asleep, you'll be in your bed, right? Your eyes are closed.

You will feel almost like your blood pressure drop. You'll just go, and it will, like, put you in a different physical state almost immediately. Really? And you do it again. Okay, I'm going to do it right now So remember it's up, down, right, left It's going to make some... Yeah, you've got to do the rounding. I forgot.

You go right around to the left. Like a record, baby. Yeah, so maybe it's the circle and then do the other side. Anyway, whatever, you're moving up and down and then around a couple times. You do it the second time, and then you don't even know

what's happening until the sun comes up. Is it because you're... Are you telling your eyes to be like REM movement kind of stuff? Yeah, yeah. I think is what it is, and I didn't spend enough time to try to find it, but I am telling you, I've done it probably 10 times, and it knocks me out like I've never experienced. Give it a shot.

It's super weird, but I always have to do it twice. And I've done it three times, I think, once, but the very initial drop, it really feels like your body's like, oh shoot, we're supposed to be in REM. All right, drop the blood pressure, drop the heart rate, like everybody, go, go, go. it's really weird anyway so that's another thing you should do when your brain wakes you up to try to tell you a story again it's protectionism right it's like hey well if you get this project done but brian you're like hey yo i have a list for tomorrow i'm good and also watch what i can do with my eyes and you transform it optimist brine yeah yeah you're mimicking REM and you are creating the illusion that you're already dead asleep and your body just follows it's

very cool yeah you're basically saying here's all those things i do when i fall asleep i'm gonna do them right now yeah trick all right i'm totally you know to try it too yeah that seems i mean i never thought of it let me know and my eyes you know there's there's some just doing it here kind of chilled me out yeah like did you feel it it's i did i know it looks really stupid on stream and people are going to probably make gifts out of it but i mean that's that's clearly what suzana hoffs was doing in the video for walk like an egyptian by the bangles clearly right clearly yeah yeah she wasn't just beautiful for no reason she had these eye things going exactly yeah yeah yeah well well this is great it seems like uh one thing i like about our writers i think

he's uh got a built-in sense of humor that is clearly sometimes we use our humor to protect us in our primal ways maybe he's doing a bit of that but um but i like the i like the lighthearted take here it's nice yeah less doom and gloom send us your own thoughts your feelings anything you're going through that you might want us to address on the show and we would be happy to Wendy what is going on with no better you.com right now no better you.com just go give me your email actually go download the the sleep techniques uh I should add the oh there you go yeah yeah it's a good one so and then when you have my email eventually when I'm we're ready for the next stuff you'll give an email just hit that stay in the loop button right there it's simple big old button so stay in the

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Go there today and get signed up. Wendy, it's always hanging out, fun. It's always fun hanging out, is what I meant to say. It's always hanging out. It's always hanging out fun. Oh, my gosh. What just felt? Things have been falling.

and right what is that something else just felt you keep your shit on your desk i don't know what happened all right stay out of trouble say hi to the boys and uh peter should make something cool all right bye kids may always make it something cool uh really that's cool he's a little maker boy wouldn't be surprised if he got a maker boy printer stuff and all that he may at some point yeah that'll be his jam uh all right we got to get to a couple of quick things coverville today noon Yeah, noon, coming up in an hour and a half, a little under that. You know, Jack White, he's that guy who was in that band called the White Stripes, and then he was in that band called the Rackontours,

and now he was doing some really cool solo stuff. He just turned 50 years old today. That kid, that amazing talent, that, that young upstart. Yeah, I mean, this guy is such a genius when it comes to music. Anyway, so covers, you'll hear of all those things that I mention. and his solo stuff, his work with the Rackontours and his White Stripes, all coming up at noon, including some covers that he's done.

That'll be Coverville, and I'll play a new Fantastic Four-based deck. Oh, very nice. Marvel Snap. Perfect timing for that. Yeah. Will one of the songs be that bha-bhap-bap-bhap-bh-bh-bh.

Of course, yeah, most-covered white-stripes song. Most-covered Jack White-related song in my library easily is that is a seven nation army yeah that so yeah i was free i knew it's an army thing but i remember the seven or the nation you know i had it in my head when you were singing it and then i went roll your eyes brian roll your eyes quick oh now i know everything now i'm tired i could go for a nap anyway that will be at noon twitch dot tv slash cover nice hang around tell one because at one when brian finishes or so we will be starting core you can catch that at frogpants. TV. Today's a big one.

So please tune in. I say that every week. It's always a big one. It's a long show. But if you want to come check out Core and see what we got going on on the video game podcast to beat, then check it out. Frogpants.com slash core. And TMS Friday for Patreon, folks, will be happening tomorrow 9 a.m. Normal time. It's an hour-long bonus show you get once a week if you're a patron of this show. So sign up now if you haven't already and get it and all the archives at frogpants.com slash TMS or directly at patreon.com slash TMS. either one gets you there. And a film sack this weekend.

Lost World Jurassic Park 2. Watched it last night. Dino's Come to America. Yeah. Glass bus. Asterisk. Cracking glass bus danger. Those are the two things you'll remember the most from this film and not much else.

Peter Stormar getting attacked by tiny ones. By Comsignathuses. That's about it. I think that's all I got about that movie. Yep. First, it starts with the U. And then it turns into, oh, there's the screaming and the running. That's right.

Oh, and then there's a pool and a kid watching a T-Rex in the pool. I remember that. Isn't there a pool? Or the dinosaurs in the pool? Yes, right, when it comes to America. When T-Rex comes to America, the kid wakes up and sees the T-Rex drinking out of the pool. It would freak out pretty good, wouldn't it, if you saw that. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I think I was dreaming. Yeah, I would, too. Roll your eyes. Much like his parents did. Well, there you have it. Yeah, they didn't get up, did they at all. All those parents are dead to the world. Too much weed.

Anyway, so that's all coming up. Lots of content this weekend. We hope you fill your lives with some good fun stuff to listen to. In the meantime, frogpans.com slash TMS. Brian, let's get out of here with a song. Sure. TRPW submitted this one way back, August 21st, 2024. Email or texted me and or messaged me in Discord and say,

hey, did you ever get that request? He thought he'd send it much more recently. No, this is way back. This goes all the way back to the Tad Pooley Feud Girl Band round that we did. Name a Girl Band, right? An all-female rock band. I remember that. He said, I thought you might want to do Substitute by Clout, a South African girl group from the height of apartheid, which might not be a recommendation.

It's a cover of Willie H. Wilson's song substitute recorded first by the Righteous Brothers. Goodness. This is wild. Yeah, this is one that I had in my library. I, you know, don't know why I didn't see the request the first time or when he sent it, but I'm glad he did. This is a song called Substitute. It was the biggest hit for this band, right? This clout bigger than the hit that it was for the Righteous Brothers.

But this put Clout on the map, basically. You can find it on the best of clout. This thing was recorded way back in 1978. Covering the Righteous Brothers, here is Substitute. See you guys tomorrow if you're on Patreon. Monday if you're not. Sam, you've been waiting much too long now. It looks like she's not coming home.

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Wherever you need me Sam Every day you waited for her I've been waiting here for you Sam All this time I've been lonely, I know what you've been going through. I wait until my chances occur, because you can keep relying on her.

If she doesn't come back, she doesn't come back, I'll be your substitute, wherever you want me. Don't you know I'll be a substitute whenever you need me? Each day by your window you sit and sigh hoping to see her face. Oh, you might as well forget about her and find someone to take her place. She doesn't come back I'll be your substitute Whenever you want me

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Whatever you need me? Pants.com for more amazing, amazing, amazing. It's like a maze of amazing. Non sequitur.