The Morning Stream - TMS 2860: Turtle Boobs

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

The Three Sides of the Coin. Shoes Stay on, Bra Comes Off. We actually like these BEEEEEEES! I want to pleeeeeeead the fifth. The Lick of Death. Accidental Podcast. Right Up Your Cheese. Giant worm god. Heroes in a bra shell, turtle power. Tested the food, not the sound. RELIGIONS IN SPACE with Amy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Our crusade will prevail. But the whole place still smelled like bananas. The morning stream. Let's do the time warp again. Hello, everyone, and welcome to TMS. is the morning stream for Tuesday, July 29th, 2025. This month is nearly over. I'm Scott Johnson. And this is Bobby Frankenberger sitting in for Brian a bit. Hello, Bobby. Bobby? Bobby. How about Brabber? Brian's still in D.C. is in our nation's capital. Yeah.

Picked a good week. Speaking in the Senate, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's being questioned for his role in various scandals. And, you know, I think it'll be okay, though. I think it won't be too hard. You can take the fifth. pretty often is my understanding. You can do that all the time. That's what I hear from TV and movies is that all you have to do to protect yourself from legal trouble is plead the fifth. Yeah, my all-night C-SPAN bingges that I do. Lots of fifth pleading. It's just how it is.

But anyway, we're glad you're here. We're glad you're here, Bobby. I'm mixing all kinds of words up today, but it's good to have you here. Bobby's often a seat warmer when Brian's gone. How is his seat today full of farts and happiness or what? What do we got going on? Surprisingly clean, but a little cold because you guys took a day off yesterday. So I'm doing my best to warm it up and stink it up.

And we're going to work on that for his. Is he returning on Thursday? You guys have a show on Thursday? He'll be back for Thursday show, yes. So tomorrow you'll be here, two days of Bobby. Brian will be back Thursday. And then the next week, here's a little Johnson poll for you. Some tweaks coming to the formula here on TMS.

Nothing crazy. Uh-oh. Nothing crazy, but some stuff that we've been thinking about for a long time. We're going to finally do it. And it's kind of exciting. And a little bit of prep going on, getting ready for it. But it's going to be great. In all sincerity, Scott, I have to say that I'm always impressed that you guys, as long as you've been doing the show, you don't, you do tweak it a little bit every now and then.

Here and there. You don't just say, this works. Do it forever. Yeah. Yeah. You evolve with the time. You try to tweak where needed. You make changes where you have to. And sometimes you make a change that at the time seems massive. And then two months later, you're like, oh, that was nothing. Sometimes you make a tiny change that you think won't affect anything. And then six months later, you have to readdress it. Because you're like, oh, shoot, we should probably change that or bring it back or tweak it or whatever. We're nothing but we're nothing but if. No, we're not anything but what has the phrase go when you say, we're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're. We're not. We're. We're. We're. We're nothing, if not. If not, is the phrase I was looking for. If not, flexible.

Fluid, if you will. We're all fluid. Yeah, we're like 70% water and we're all fluid. Oh, man. See, now the science guy comes out. It pops right out. Sorry. That's fine.

I'll take him anytime. I like science. So it works for me. Hey, we had a, I had a great time at the fantastic four viewing. Saw that with some tadpoolers. We did that on Saturday. Yes, it was Saturday. day. We had to wait a couple of days. We had a really good time at that movie. I'll say this

spoiler-free comment about it. I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it nearly as much as Superman, but I have the same beef with it as I did with Superman, which is my only beef. It needed about a half an hour more of stuff. There's just too much to cover in your quick two hours and you're out. And it's not a complaint. It left me wanting more. And I look forward to more. But I think that this is the right tone not just for fantastic four but for uh this this phase or this next jump in the MCU uh kind of progress to get away from all the multiverse crap and get back down to you know close in earth six one six down a little bit and quit having all these leaks and holes in it um and i think that uh everybody was extremely well cast in their roles and i

love the 60s future retro future aesthetic that they decided to go with and i can't believe they made galactus work so 616 that's been that's the that's the that's the that's earth prime i believe i think that's the right number the universe that we've been seeing all the mc u stuff in so far i think so and also well good question marvel mc u universe let's find this out universe number because maybe I'm mixing the comic one up and the chat probably. Okay, here it is. Earth 616 is currently the MCU timeline. Okay. Let's see. I don't know what the current, well, the current, there's a bunch of comic universes, so I don't think there's a prime in the comics right now. But essentially the MCU one is considered prime. And yesterday, in Fantastic 4, or as I keep calling it,

Final Fantasy 4 by accident. I keep doing that. Um, it, they show at the beginning, Earth 10,000, something, whatever. It's like a whole different, you know, Earth version. So, uh, that explains why Jim from the office looks like, uh, Oberyn from Game of Thrones. That's a reference. Some of you guys will get. It'll take a few of you a minute, though, but you'll get there. Keep working on it. Anyway, I had a really good time. Did you end up seeing it this last week? No, I haven't seen it, but you know what? I am glad to hear that, it you know there's two types of complaints of the type that you just did there's like two sides to that complaint coin that you had which one is what you said which is it needed a little bit longer because there was a lot of stuff the other is that it went too long and it could have been cut down and if i had to choose which one i wanted i think it would be it needed to be longer yeah just a little longer a little more character development i could have used more honestly

one of the most compelling things about it was the thing that i usually don't give a crap about And that's Silver Surfer Story, whether it's, whichever universe they're doing, in this case, what's her name, Ball? I forget her first name from the comics. She's great. She's from the, I want to say the ultimate universe in the comics. But anyway, she's, she was not only great, but I was, I longed for more of that. I thought, I thought she killed it. Yeah. I also longed for more Ben Grimm's story. Didn't get near enough of the thing, in my opinion. It's hard. It's an ensemble cast. It's a lot to get in. there's a lot of little threads to get ready for the next big phase of things

it's all good though again I'm not complaining but they did not make a bad Marvel movie this was a great time and I really enjoyed it Brian you're allowed to critique it that's that's true Brian was supposed to send in or at least attempted a couple of times to send in his review via voice cast

and it kept giving him errors and we're not sure why we think it might be his hotel Wi-Fi or something weird like that so we're working on that I'm going to try to have his little audio review sometime in the next day. Hopefully if it comes through, we'll play for you guys because, you know, he's the Marvel nerd of all Marvel nerds among us.

Yeah. Now, I would fail miserably if I tried to name everybody in the tadpool who showed up for this thing, but I'm going to make an attempt to name most of you. Guy from Springfield, or Springville. I always forget your name, but dude from Springville. Or no, Pleasant Grove? Anyway, you came from South, all right?

You're awesome. Love that guy. seeing him. A dude who can possibly get me tickets to the Utah hockey club slash the mammoth game next upcoming, not mammoth. What is mammoth? Right? The mammoth. Right? Shit. Whatever our hockey team is now.

I'm going to, that guy. You and your wife, super nice. Thank you for showing up. You were great. He had to go right after but he saw him for a minute. Ryan from down south also brought his kids. Kay K. K. Katsumi, always great to see her. KT Data, A.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K. A. Noel. It's the other way around. Noel. She goes by Rose Kitty. They were there. Oh, I'm going to forget people. Oz was there. I got to meet him for the first time. Tall guy. Big tall guy. Didn't expect another tall guy. But that was great. See, just know I'm not alone. And then my wife, my daughter. Who else was there? There were other people. Shit, I'm going to forget somebody. Lots of people. Oh, Cindy. Cindy Parkhouse was there.

Not only, whenever she looks at me, I'm always afraid she's looking into my eyes because she works at the eye doctor I go to. So I always worry she's diagnosing me when I look at her. Just kidding. I love her. It was so good to see her there. She doesn't often get to come to the local stuff, so that was really nice. I am sure I'm forgetting people.

I know I am. But to you, I say apologies, but also thanks for coming. That was super fun to all get together and hang out. I only have one beef about my experience. It's not the movie. It was the theater. Let me tell you about this. Brand new movie theater.

built it's got bowling lanes it's got uh some kind of i don't know if they've laser tag but it's like a more full experience if you want a giant arcade all this other stuff and it's connected right up next to the new ballpark out here for our uh triple a team the bees we don't like be actually we do like these bees and it's not far from us so it's like kind of only about a mile and a half two miles away and everybody met up there but it's really nice that this amphitheater and bands out there playing and all this cool stuff. So we're excited because they also now offer in this theater, your own little booth.

If you pay up to it, and we decided to splurge a little because we're like, why not? Let's try it. So Kim and I got this booth thing. It's basically like an enclosure behind your head and on the sides. It's in two seats. And then, you know, the legs go up and they recline and all that.

And they're kind of midway before the thing. So they're not too close, not too far back. And you push a button to order food up to 20 minutes before the showing. 20 minutes into the movie you can still order and then you can do something after I can't remember what the deal is anyway this food that they bring you

is not on the menu out at the concessions this is stuff they make special just for these new seats so better food like there were these sliders and this pizza that were way better than they should have been like the food is good

no issues there the people there very nice took care of us all that's good here's the problem somebody's not an engineer or I should say somebody's not a sound engineer because these

booth things, which gives you this weird sense of privacy, like you're in your own private movie theater with the high back and then the high sides. So you're looking out of this horseshoe kind of space. They didn't account for the fact that surround sound and movie theaters are about not only sound coming from all directions, including from the rear, but the stuff that's happening in front should come past you, not into you and then get stuck around you. So we would, I could tell I was hearing a mix of this film that was not the way it was meant to be a little bit. So muffily when it shouldn't be a weird sense of this stuff's not just behind me, it's too far behind me. That's because sounds being blocked or bits being

bounced off the back of this wall behind me. I don't know who thought, I don't know who was in charge of that, but like freaking. It wasn't tested. No, it wasn't the tested guys. Or it wasn't, no, I mean, it must not have been user tested. You've had like Adam Savage and his tested website. It wasn't the tested crew. No. There wasn't Adam Savage who made it. No.

I mean, I'm sure they tested it for all the other reasons that it's in an amenity there, but they didn't test it for sound clearly. Or they just said, maybe it was people who don't care much about the sound. Maybe it was too small of a group. Yeah. If you took a girl there on a date,

you just make out in there, you know? Like you're not even watching it. You're like Seinfeld watching, And what was it, Schindler's list, not remembering anything about it. What did you think of the black and white? Oh, the black and white. Yeah, that was something like that. That's probably why.

But I just was like, oh, man, I know my ears would, if I could just put my head up out of the thing, when that would look stupid. But if I did, I would have gotten the full Monty there with the sound. Right, right. So that was kind of a bummer. I thought of you, though, because I thought of science while I was sitting there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm always thinking about science. Yeah. I almost sent you a text and said, Bobby, let's talk about sound next week. Get that going.

Anyway, you saw a movie, though. You saw the Happy Gilmore, too. How was that? Yeah. So if I told you there are two things, the two sides to the coin, right? There's the, you didn't get enough and you wished there was a little bit more and you were left wanting. The other side of the coin. That's three sides. Keep going. the one side is what you experienced you you you wish there was more yeah the other side of the coin being it went on too long that's what happy Gilmore too was oh i've been i've read some pretty good glowing reviews of this but this so okay let me let me let me say i did enjoy watching

it um but i did go in with expecting it to be bad okay uh it was just a fun thing um I've always, I liked the, you know, I love, Happy Gilmore is a classic, so I love that movie. It's funny, and, and Stephanie and I both like it. So we were like, oh, we're going to just, kids are gone for the week. They're with their grandparents, and we're just going to, we want something to watch with dinner.

We're going to watch it. So we sat down and watched it. Didn't expect it to be very good. It had its moments. It was okay. It did surprise me in the, you know, I don't know how much people care about spoilers for Happy Gilmore, too, but um for uh for those people who do care about them i will respect your your desire for no spoilers um

it's it the way it gets into uh basically being a happy gilmore movie where he's playing golf it's it's interesting the way they do it um it's it's it's not you know it there are parts of it that were just i mean most of it was just kind of a constant reference to the first movie, which got a little bit irritating after a while. It does do the thing that I find annoying sometimes or pretty much every time that a TV show or movie does it, which is it just kept inserting footage from the first movie. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Like he would remember something or a character would appear and it was clear that this person was either supposed to be the

child of a character from the first movie or was that was an old version of the person from the first movie and they felt like they needed to remind you who it was so they'd show a quick like five second clip from the first movie. I see. That was kind of bad. There's only one movie or one thing I've ever seen which does

that kind of flashback well and it's been a cobra Kai does that well. Oh yeah. I agree. I agree. That's a pretty good. I don't even like that show that much, but I think their use of that is pretty good. Yeah. They do some of the, so it's really a mixed bag. If you go into it thinking it's going to be bad, then you won't be disappointed. It's not great, but it's fun. It's a fun movie. If you like Happy Gilmore and that, also that's the other thing. You need to only watch it because you're a fan of the first movie because it's not, it's not a good movie by itself. It's only, it's completely fan. service and it's that's all it's obviously all it was intended for sure and if that's what you're consuming then then then success all right uh that's good to know i i think i'll watch it i'm glad it's just like hey it's here it is on netflix go for it right i don't it's not like a big

thing hinging on box office revenue or whatever um i have heard that it's see maybe this is a low bar and you can tell me because i don't know how much of his other recent stuff you've seen but outside of some really wildly good dramatic roles Sandler's had in recent years Uncut Jems is a good example of that his comedies have all been kind of terrible like there hasn't been a great run

this seems like maybe the best of those right I don't know I haven't seen the comedy is seriously the best way to describe it is if you if you're you're a big fan if you're a fan of the first happy gilmore and you like that movie this is just this movie is intended just to stroke that nostalgia okay right so if you want more happy gilmore

this legacy sequel they like to call them now uh is right up your cheese is what you're saying yeah i core says never actually seen the first happy gilmore then don't watch this movie you're probably not going to like it i mean i think i i will see it because i really did like the first one I happen to really like Adam Sandler, generally speaking. I think he seems like, in real life, kind of a nice guy and a decent dude, and he's good to his friends and even some who kind of chose. Yeah, and so that's another thing. I did watch this movie with that in mind, like, oh, like, if you also view this as a movie where it's just Adam Sandler getting together with a bunch of people he came up with because Happy Gilmore was like one of the movies, that and Billy Madison. and put him on the map, right, in terms of a movie maker.

And it's just like him getting together with those people and just having a really good time. That's also true, and that's another way you can look at this, and I think it's great. But it's okay. It's all right. You know, just, you know, if you want to kill some time and you want to fondly remember the first happy Gimler, they really did pretty much bring everybody back. A couple of exceptions, right? Richard Keel's son is supposed to. be in this, but obviously Richard

Kills dead. Eminem plays somebody's brother or something like that. Yeah. These might be spoilers now that I'm saying the Mountland. No. So far, no spoilers. But there's not really much to spoil, honestly. And the other thing they did was they, you know how a lot of these legacy

sequels like you were saying they pretty much just take the movie and do it completely the same again? Yeah. Yeah. They kind of do that. That's kind of what this is, but they, I will say they changed enough to make it feel like you're not

just watching this. Like it is the conceit of the movie is a little bit different. The motivation is pretty much the same, but the dressing is different enough that it feels updated and and yeah.

All right. I'm going to watch it. I'll see it and I'll see it with fresh eyes and also will carry your opinion in there as Bobby says this, but I'm going to try and see this and see how I land and then perhaps we'll come back to the burning fires of TMS and talk about our experience. How about that? Yeah, there you go. Sounds good. Travis and St. Louis, I hear you, literally, because I'm about to play something you sent in. So he sent in a text that's

actually converted to an AI voice call, his choice, not ours. I'm going to play it. This is all about bananas, specifically the Savannah bananas, not the kind you eat. And the, uh, the And tickets getting to see the Savannah Banana because they keep coming up on the show. We've got T-shirts now. They keep coming up. So here's what he has to say. The bananas do a ticket lottery.

You enter the lottery. If you're lucky, you will get a chance to buy tickets. They limit the number of tickets you can purchase based on the stadium. I saw them in St. Louis and I was able to buy five tickets for $40 each. Definitely an amazing experience and the best baseball experience I've seen. Shove a hobo. Travis in St. Louis. All right.

Shove a hobo, everybody. You heard it here. Uh, yeah, I've, I've heard nothing but good. It's obvious their popularity is, you know, they're having a moment, so I can't deny the people, the people and what they love. Yeah. So will I see them if they come through town? Probably not, because the tickets are outrageous. Uh, Brian looked up, what, Stubhub last week, last Thursday, and they were like 800 bucks.

Yeah, it was nuts. Just, I mean, that's just like sanctioned scalping over there. It's ridiculous. Uh, but, you know, maybe it'll quiet down. they'll have their little globe-trotter moment and then it'll go down a little bit and then I can then I'll make it maybe they'll come to the bees stadium over here the bees the bees that's all right all right well thank you for that Travis we appreciate the call let's get to some news Bobby let's try to inform these people as well as entertain them today all right yes you think you think that's a decent idea I agree okay it's time for the news and it's brought to you by the daily science briefing Bobby tell me more about this fantastic daily science podcast show. Yeah, so I do a new podcast, which is Daily Science Brief. It's 10 minutes of science news every day.

Well, it's three days a week, but we're going to be moving up to five days a week next month. And it's just four science news stories in 10 minutes. And if you want to keep up to date with science news, then that's the place to do it. I think they should check it out. Also, your weekly show. We'll talk about that later. and a little surprise later we're going to at least hint a little bit some people know about this but we'll hint today collaboration coming up with bobby and possibly the core podcast yes that's right

you heard it here first well maybe second we kind of talked about it probably second yeah but we got some we got some cool ideas so uh watch for that all right let's get to the news a woman died from a dog lick oh my gosh yeah pause for shock yeah she died from a dog lick here's how it went a woman woman has died after a dog licked her wound, according to a court. Now, keep in mind, the dog didn't go, and then she died. That's not how it works. All right? That would be impressive. The headlines suggest such a thing, but I think it's probably deeper, and we'll find out now. June Baxter, age 83, also a little older, right? Yeah. Cut her leg after. Was it the dog wound? Was it the lifelong 83-year-old life? Anyway, she cut her leg. She cut her leg.

after falling from her commode on June 29th. That's a code for toilet. Yeah, quality news writing. Yeah, some of you Jen Alphas out there may have never heard anyone call it toilet a commode, but that's what's going on there. My grandparents call it that. Do they still?

No. Oh. I was just, you know. Stephanie's grandpa. Are your grandparents still around? Or either of you have grandparents still out? No, I was going to say, that's what I was going to say. No, they don't still because they're dead,

but I was trying not to bring it down. We always got to bring death in it. Yeah, I was trying to think of anyone I know that I work with all the time that still has grandparents. Brian did, but then his grandma died, what, a month ago, two months ago? I'll just make it sadder. Let's just make the sadder. Anyway, the retired legal secretary who was alone when she fell, pressed her community call bell. Almost said cowbell.

To alert her granddaughter, Caitlin, who access her main carer. It should be care provider. I don't think carer is correct I mean it is it probably is like if I looked it up it is I don't like out sounds okay if somebody says I really care about the environment would you say you are the biggest carer

no no you wouldn't say that I would say I'm their biggest caregiver you'd get kicked out of your out of your building anyway she arrived at the house in Adelboro with her dog which licked

to the wound that she got from falling off the commode. Mrs. Baxter told her granddaughter she felt unwell the following day and was taken to a hospital on July 1st. Texts or tests, rather, revealed the presence of pasturella multi-coda, caida. Coda? You almost had it. Multicida. Multicida.

It is a bacterium commonly found in the mouths of animals. Her condition deteriorated despite treatment, and she died of septic shock. So what happened here is, dog, got the old pasturella modicida there, lick this poor lady's leg, and it all went bad from there. So don't let, the lesson is,

don't let your dog lick your wounds. It's a myth. It's one of those myths, right? People think that you can do that because dogs and animals do that to clean their own wounds. But a couple problems with that. But first, what else is a dog supposed to do to clean their own ones?

Right. Like, they don't have first aid. No, they don't go, excuse me, hold on a second, owner. I need to go in and get my first aid kit and wrap this. Yeah. They don't do that. Second, the bacteria in a dog is different than the bacteria in a human. So you're not supposed to, don't mix them.

So, yeah. That's good advice. I like that. Also, it's kind of a problem, though, because there's this episode of Mythbusters. And their whole job is to bust myths, right? yeah they did one on dog mouths and human mouths and the test basically showed that you had a dog lick a petri dish and then you had a human lick a petri dish and then you put those same excuse me petri dishes in a petri dish incubator thing overnight i don't know what was it just sucked all the air out or something and just let them grow on whatever no outside influence the whatever was going to grow on these dishes grew in this environment incubator is the right word is that the right word okay yeah they grow in there The dog one had nothing, had like a couple of dots that were just maybe starting to be a little mold balls. But the human one was overflowing, just covered in garbage.

And so, and by human, I mean, I think it was like Adam Savage licked it or Jamie or somebody else on the team licked it. And the dogs looked like, oh, man, not a lot of stuff going on here at the dog. And I think if you saw that, you may have the false impression that it's just fine. Let the dog lick everything. Let them look my mouth, let them go for it. But we say nay. Don't do that. Yeah.

It's not about how much bacteria. It's about what kinds. So we, everybody has bacteria. And so you have bacteria that live safely in and on you. And it's when you're invaded with foreign bacteria that you have problems. Yeah. Also, more science. See, I just can't stop.

You can't leave it. You just can't. Here's, here's, this reminds. me if I'm gonna you know nobody gets to pick how they're gonna go necessarily but if I had to go I wouldn't mind it being for me falling off a toilet and having a dog lick a thing and then get infected and then go the next day really oh that or if you're saying hey how do you feel about 13 straight months of horrible cancer deterioration I see or how do you feel about dying in a fire how you feel about you know what I mean Scott if if your choices are yeah give me give me five

choices and if one of them is a fire or basically anything else then I'm going to chip pick the other thing yeah not to fair point I didn't really think of it but yeah okay here you here you go let's do this you got three choices mm-hmm this is all a little morbid but just stay with me everybody all right massive heart attack just non-recoverable heart attack number one. Or stroke, swap them out, it doesn't matter. Whichever one, it's just a massive stroke or heart attack, like one of those deals. But you're on the toilet, okay, when that happens.

Number two, you get the wound and the dog licks it and now you got a little infection and you deal with it for a couple days and then, you know, you're comfortable because they've taken good care of you at the hospital and you die and you pass away. Or third, you slip off the edge of the Grand Canyon and fall. fall 400 feet or however high it is to your death, which of those three scenarios, if you could pick them. Like three cards, death walks up and goes, hey, what's up? Take a card and you pick one of those cards. You get to choose. Which one do you take? That's a really tough choice. So my instinct is to fall off the edge of the Grand Canyon because it'd probably be really fast. And kind of fun if you got the right

attitude. Kind of fun if I know it's coming. And you just said death is telling me it's coming. Yeah, it's coming. He told you. He told you. that this was going to happen. I mean, I would hope that if I fell off a giant cliff or a building or whatever, I would have, even if I didn't know it was coming, I'd have the mind that would go, well, this is done, you're done. So stop panicking, freaking out, yelling, screaming, and waving, and just enjoy this final ride.

That would be great if you could have the presence of mind to do that, right? Because you're right, if you fall off the edge of the, If you just fall off like one of those cliffs where you can just free fall for like 10 seconds, for some reason, I don't know, I don't know this for sure. I've never talked to anyone who's fallen off of a cliff to their death. But for some reason, I imagine your instinct is to, in those 10 seconds, figure out how can I get out of this one? Probably. Yeah, I think human instinct is always to, I don't even think it's voluntary. You're just going to, you're going to try.

Now, if it's long enough, see, here's the trick. Make it 10,000 feet. Yeah. I will have enough time in the first couple thousand feet to kind of start to get over it a little. You might even have time to pull out your phone and like update your will. Yeah, do a quick status update. Guys, I'm about 8,000 feet away from the final moment. I just wanted to say, thank for all the left.

This is my last post on social media. Yep. Yeah. Do a quick video. Selfie. make a tick-tock post yeah i don't know man like if you give me far enough to fall like at some point like if gandolph had fallen through that little middle earth hole when the when the boulog pulled him down after he said fly you fools if the boulog would have just

fallen into a different hole or died on the way down and it was just gandolph floating forever yeah that wouldn't be that bad after a while is all i'm saying you'd get used to it yeah you get used Like anything, any extreme situation, you would eventually, you would get used to it. I like the idea that you'd be falling for so long that eventually you'd start complaining about being hungry. Oh my gosh. Okay, now that's a gnarly way to go. If you are falling forever. Starving to death, falling through a boy.

Oh, my gosh, dude. That's bad. Yeah. I don't want that. I'm watching foundation right now, catching up on it. And I really like the, they've changed a lot about the books, obviously. but the books were really hard to read. They were so deep and thick, like that is some thick sci-fi going on.

You have to really focus on it. Anybody with even a little ADD should probably not read the foundation novels. But the show is good at, you know, like shows are, they're good at boiling stuff down and even whole cloth creating ideas that are just easier for audiences to glom onto or whatever and get the point across. Anyway, I'm really enjoying it, but there are a couple of things about it that, that you know star trek does this sometimes but that just makes you think real hard and just opens your mind to like oh if that's how we could do that with time and space oh my gosh that's

insane and they mess with time in ways and like hibernation like cryo hibernation that lasts a very long time but then somehow 138 years later the person who was asleep is still like chiefly in charge of the effect of what happened while they were dead or not dead but it's a whole thing and my brain just starts farting left and right like oh my gosh I don't know what's real anymore

that show is really good though I like it it is good I love I haven't watched the most recent season because there's a new season out right there is I don't know if it's finished but it may still be coming out because they do week to week but that's where I'm at I'm just finishing

the second because I wasn't caught up first one had some issues but you could tell right when season one got disrupted for COVID stuff because it was right then and they had to stop and then come back and you could just feel you could feel the shuddering of

where the show was. Yeah. And it bugged me for a while but then I got over it and finished it and then season two has been a banger so far. It's really good. Season two is good. There's the current one for the fourth season? Third. Third season. So season two, there's

only been two seasons up until this current one so we're on the third one right now. Yeah. And two Two is sort of delayed because, again, COVID, just getting everything back together and making it happen as far as I know. But I love that, like, I need, okay, here's what I need out of the streaming services from now until you're all gone. Or whatever the world changes again, we all do something different. Keep somebody there focused on acquiring and or producing quality sci-fi content. That's all I need. everything else

can come and go and be great and dumb and everything in between, whatever, but just keep taking risks and spending budget on smart, well-made sci-fi. And right now,

I will say, Apple TV Plus, kind of leading the charge in that way. They have some, like every one of their sci-fi series is really good. And there's multiples and you're missing out

if you haven't seen them. I wish we'd get more of that kind of stuff out of like the net of the world they have their fair share but a lot of their stuff is imported or they buy it from you know a foreign market and repurpose it or whatever i just want that to be a mainstay it's the stuff that makes humans think it makes us dream it makes us reach further you know yeah instead of getting all bogged down on our poop i find of sci-fi is where they build like

they where they create a whole world where you know this one like conceit this one idea and they just extrapolate on it for like hundreds of years or thousands of years and love it and like see where it went and it's just like a little little thing like like foundation does that with the how the leadership in the galaxy or whatever works yep and um and uh what's that one silo silo silo's great yeah silo does that with with the way that show work like the the whole yeah conceit behind that show yeah i love that too it's the dune dust because dune does this. I feel like Dune, the book, is like the OG, like, what if a thing happens and goes on and is connected for millennia? Just go, keep going and going going. People forget at some point

that book series jumps 10,000 years and there's a giant worm god. Like, it's some wild stuff, man. And I love it. I love it. More of that, please. That'd be great. Okay. Our next story. Anyway, thoughts and prayers of that lady. I hope your family's okay. Yeah. Florida woman caught trying to care. Oh, there's another Florida lady. I didn't mean to do that.

But let's do it. A Florida woman caught trying to carry turtles through the airport security area in her bra, according to the TSA. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. I could probably do this in my bra. It makes sense, though. Yeah? That you would try to, that's where you would try to.

I mean, no. Because the shells, the big round shells. Sure. shape. I mean we're not, there's no comment about anything other than if you are trying to smuggle through the TSA living turtles, where else are you going to put them? Shove them either in the back of your pants, where your butt cheeks are. Yeah. Or where your breasts are. Sure. Feels like breasts are a good choice. Unless you're a dude. Unless, unless, you know, TSA exists with their machines that can scan you. Yeah. And they do. Yeah. Turns out. Anyway, the

administration, the Transportation Security Administration, the TSA, checkpoint Miami International Airport. This is where this happened. The woman who was not identified had the turtles wrapped in what appeared to be gauze and plastic wrap. Oh, my God. According to the photos posted on social media by the agency,

TSA did not identify the breed of the turtles. One turtle died. Yeah, if you wrap it in plastic wrap. It was the left one. Just kidding. I don't know. I don't know how you. designate which one you know what I mean

because in context there's a right one and a left one because that's how they were smuggled in which of those two died or if you're in total if you're in total recall universe there are three turtles and if you know that reference we can be friends

anyway the surviving reptile was turned wait their reptiles yeah they are yeah why is that always hit me wrong why what have I why was I raised in a way that would make me question that every time I You're a turtles or reptiles.

I think when you think of reptiles, you think of lizards. I do, yeah. And, well, snakes are reptiles, right? Yeah. Yes. Starting to question everything now. Okay, so snakes, lizards, and turtles. There you go.

They're all in there. I guess, you know what it is? I don't think of reptiles as creatures that have structures attached to them. Even though I know it's an organic structure. I think of it as like a crab. Or not like a crab. like a, yeah, like a crab that's got a shell on him that he crawled into and then made his house.

I think of that. Right. You know? Well, some species can sometimes, like the groupings of species can sometimes and reptiles not a species, but I can't remember what the taxonomical word is for that grouping. But the grouping of those things can sometimes be weird. Like a lot of times we think reptiles versus amphibians, right? so amphibians are like on land and in water and turtles and tortoises seem like they would be able to they would fit the bill yeah they all kind of hang out but but they fall under reptiles and I'm not totally sure why I'm not an expert on that but sometimes it's just weird the way that those categories were described originally just really disappointing to have this science expert on who's not sure about you know yeah I

Well, I aim to disappoint, so. Just kidding. Future topic, though. Why? Like, why? Okay, so they're all cold-blooded. We know that. All the things you just mentioned, amphibians and reptiles.

Right. One of them is in mortal combat, reptile. Yeah. That's it. It's all I got. Oh, sorry, it looked like the show is ending there. Hey, let's get to the rest of this. So this is what the TSA said.

this was all the surviving one got sent to the Department of Fish and Wildlife so that's cool. Quote, friends please, and we cannot emphasize this enough, stop hiding animals in weird places on your body, and then trying to sneak them through airport security, says the TSA on social media.

Can you just hear the frustration? Oh yeah. Totally. God, please. You think they're probably happy the shoes don't have to come off anymore, right? I mean, I think everybody's happy with that, yeah. Yeah. But thanks to

This lady, now the bra's got to come off. I do. I mean, you know, that's the 60s all over again. Burn your bras. So here's the thing. We don't talk about this very often. But the shoe thing at the TSA, it was probably always dumb, right?

To base an entire procedure, security procedure, on a failed attempt by one dude one time to do a thing that probably in the end was only going to hurt him anyway. And then we just... I mean, we could have a whole conversation about how the TSA stuff is just security theater anyway and whether or not it actually does anything. I got a buck knife through Salt Lake City International, took it all the way to California. No one noticed it on the way in or the way back.

No one saw this knife that I had. And I didn't do it on purpose. Yeah, same thing happened to me one time. I had a small pocket knife, which was harmless. but they didn't know that because they didn't even notice it somehow. Yeah. So the fact that they're not catching, and mine was bigger. Mine was probably, it was a lock knife.

Is that what they're called? Yeah. I think so. Where you pull it out and the locks and you have to click it to unlock it. Anyway, it was a pretty big knife, fully extended out of its things, probably like that. And it was just sitting in one of these pockets in my bag. And I'm not looking at the screens. I'm not noticing it because I'm not thinking about it because I didn't think I had it in there.

I had it in there from a camping trip with the same bag. and it was just in there and it went through the deal and it had a guy going durber durba dur looking at it and then it came out the other end and nothing on either side of that trip to BlizzCon

or it may have been my more recent one I don't remember but it just it left me with a feeling of like what are we doing then? What is this? Yeah whereas when we went to Canada recently they confiscated our our maple butter.

Oh my lord. What did they think that was about like a little bomb material? The guy was really nice. not, I don't want to, you know, disparage any individual TSA agents. He's just following the rules. But because of the nature of what it is, it qualified as a liquid, I guess, and it was in slightly too large of an amount. And so there was nothing he could do about it. Stephanie was like, will you, will you at least eat it? Oh, the guy, let the guy take it and eat it, hopefully.

Yeah, because he had to inspect everything and look at everything. He was like, well, you can't take this. It's, it counts as a liquid. I'm sorry about that. And she was like, okay, we get it, I guess. But will you at least take it home and eat it? So it doesn't go to waste. I've had that happen with shampoo or something once. But that's my point. It's like you caught the shampoo.

Well done, guys. Yeah. My knife got through. And it was a knife I could hurt somebody with real bad if I wanted. I wouldn't. But I, you know, they don't know that. Yeah. They're the TSA.

But meanwhile, there I am, taking my shoes off, getting those scanned. Better make sure these freaking Chuck Taylor's aren't loaded for bear, you know. Yeah, and that's the one, I mean, the one place, the one thing, taking your shoes off that really took so long to, that was like always long. And did you have, no, half the time you would go through TSA, they'd just, I guess, in a morning meeting decide we don't feel like this. going to take too long today let's just let them keep their shoes on you notice that sometimes you go in and they're like yeah don't take your shoes off yeah it feels like they're just busy or something yeah just keep them on yeah the rules only matter when we want them to yeah it's honestly yeah because they don't say that they of course make it seem like maybe something's going on or yeah you know

whatever but they really all they're saying is we're a little slam today uh larry left early and never came back so don't worry about your shoes we need i i've always that what they really do is in their morning meeting is they have like a deck of cards and they just like like okay these are the things that we're going to have them do today yeah uh shoes on belts off uh electronic devices in multiple bins uh except your your hoodie can be in with your backpack yeah there you go anything they want anytime they want although okay i'll say this. If I'm in prison or I'm in that room, the holding cell, there's like a toilet and like 50 people in there waiting for their, you know, we see it in movies and stuff. If I'm in there, guy goes, you know, what'd you get in here for? And he goes, I killed five men in a fight in a bar or whatever. And the other guy goes, oh, yeah, I stole a plane and flew it somewhere. And then they get to the lady, I smuggled two turtles into my bra. It just doesn't have the same weight, you know. all right that's going to do it for today's news we're going to take a break and when we come back we're going to spend a wee bit of time with amy she's here for read this and she has a book recommendation also an answer to a question we got for her so we're going to be doing that in a second

in the meantime i'm going to play a song a break song that brian provided for me big thanks to him for doing this the question is did he send me any info let me just make sure i'm not missing anything before i do this uh let's see nope It's Wednesdays. It looks like I just have the name of the song. Here's what I know for sure. It's going to be great. All right.

That I can promise you. So we're going to go ahead and play it. This is a song called, let me find the name. Do, do, it's in the dis, it's in the thing. Oh, Scott. That's why there's two of us on the show. So he usually does this. Okay, here we go.

This song is called I Love This by Punch Bag. So the song is, I love this. And the band is Punch Bag. Is it good? Well, you'll have to. listen and find out. Here it is. We'll see you on the other side. It feels like that gone It's been tough too long

It's like that gone It feels like that gone It feels too long It feels so good To finally feel I self again This shit is real It feels so good

to feel alive It feels so good to see the I I love this I I love this I love this

I love this It's in the skin, it's in my pulse, my chromosomes, trivial thoughts, it's in my duvet and unwashed cups, it's in the dead, I say too much, binge in the shows on BBC, we all get none to some degree, in every promise that I crash, and when I'm there, don't give me a lot, like I go, Because the light back on It's been dealt too young Because the light back on For the light back on It's been dealt too long

It's been dark too long I got a of dopamine I didn't feel it since 17 I got a bus It feels so good I didn't feel it since 17

I got a ball Oh I'm going to blow It feels like It feels like to find out. It feels like to find out This shit is real There's no way to be my life.

I love this. There's nothing about my wife's activities that I do not know. Masturbation. All right, we're back. That song, once again, is I love this by Punch Bag. Go check it out wherever you get your music. Let's get to some time with Amy. Oh, I just realized I didn't send her a link.

That'd be important. She's going to want that. So I'm going to do that. Oh, no, you know what? I do her on Discord because she likes video. Never mind. Never mind, everybody. calm yourself down all everything's fine and it's not calling her though okay great discord you're

doing great discord keep it up i'll reload discord and see perhaps if there's an update or something there's always an update yeah there really is they update a lot i don't know if that's i think i think that's good or is that bad um i don't seem to notice the updates very much so i guess that's good Yeah, I think it might be good. They're not impacting my experience very much. Yeah, well, that's all that's all that matters. All right, here it is. I found it, everybody.

Off we go into the thing. Where is it? One of the things that I enjoy also is reading. Well, well, well, what do we have here? It is one Amy Robinson, aka Red Fraggle. Well, well, what do we find? Amy, what's going on? How are you?

Well, well, well. Hello, friends. How are you? How are you? Good. It's nice to see you. We got video working right? Yeah, there it is. Oh, I'll send you video as well so you can see our happy faces. Oh, that would be nice. Look, we're all, we're all friends here. To assume that my face will be happy. Well, your face, I don't want to get into it. I'm just saying. It's happy now that Amy's here. Yeah, there you go. Amy, it's good to have you here. Go ahead. My daughter was in here a few minutes ago and, you know, Bobby was up on the screen and my daughter said, oh, he's the science guy, but not Bill Nye. Yeah, that's an accurate representation. That's my new...

That's my new social media profile description. Did your sign off on the show now? But not Bill Nye. Yeah, but not Bill Nye. Hi, I'm Bobby, but not Bill Nye. Hey, it's good to have you here. We're going to get into recommendation before we do, though. We're going to start with this letter we got for you, a text, if you will.

This is to Amy from Jen. I'll read it real quick and then see if you've got an answer for Jen. I'm not sure which of our gens this is. this is a J-E-N-N, so there's probably like eight gens I'm aware of. Is it the-gen or just a different gen? Just a-gen? Yeah, it could be a-gen or A-gen or D-Gen. We don't know.

Recommendation needed from Amy. Me and my friend are reading quirky sci-fi books this year, and I'm looking for a recommendation. We've done ones like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, dungeon crawler Carl, When the Moon Hit Your Eye by John Scalzy, and we're just kind of stuck on what to read next. Do you have something fun in your back pocket that you would suggest? It would be greatly appreciated, says Jen. Well, Amy, what do you have? I do. So I made a little list here because, you know, I don't know, I don't know what all she has and has not read.

So I made a little list of potentials here. So obviously, she starts with Hitchhiker's Guide, Douglas Adams' other novel called Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency would be a good choice. Also, she mentioned John Scalzi. So starter villain and Kaiju Preservation Society, both by John Scalzy. If you haven't read either of those, those are both good choices, completely fit in the realm of quirky sci-fi. And then branching out from there, these are all books that I have recommended here before, but fit into this category. So I would say an absolutely remarkable thing by Hank Green that has like a giant alien robot that lands on earth from seemingly nowhere and but all in all kinds of places at the same time. And nobody really understands that much about it.

And then there's the second book in that series called a beautifully foolish endeavor. Nice. And those are, you know, all one one big story. story. So I would recommend reading them back to back. Then there's also a book by Dennis E. Taylor called We Are Legion. We are Bob. Where it's a near future sci-fi where it's available to people of a certain wealth bracket to be able to sort of save your consciousness. And this fellow does so and then is immediately hit by a car and uh yeah and then gets gets loaded into a computer and all you know hilarity ensues i've heard good things about that one yeah i've heard i've heard great stuff

about that book it's supposed to be good it's really funny honestly it's really very funny and he starts i yeah i don't want to give too much away but it's it's really funny because it's very much he's just kind of he he understands tech but he's not like technobes Babble Super Nerd. You know, he's just a regular guy who suddenly finds himself without a body. And, you know, and it's, you know, so he reacts the way a normal person would react to that. And it's, it's kind of hilarious. So she says quirky sci-fi, would you include, because it's not quirky so much as it is a little less, it's a little more lighthearted, but that Hail Mary book is kind of.

That was the last one on my list, actually. Oh, good. Project Hail Mary. If you haven't read Project Hell Mary by Andy Weir, now is a great time. The movie's getting ready to come out soon. And, yeah, it was great. And I would fit it in the, you know, if somebody asked me for quirky sci-fi, I would not exclude that book. Simply because, again, the voice of it, the narration of it, it's told him the first person.

And he's very much a regular dude, you know. And so if you've read the Martian, it's kind of similar to that, you know, where, you know, in the, if you, those who haven't read the Martian, the first line of the book is, well, I'm effed. But he doesn't, you know, he spells it out, you know, but so like it's, it's like that, you know, it's very, I'm a regular guy having a really, really weird experience. It's a really good trailer just dropped for the movie. And also, Andy Weir talked a bunch of San Diego Comic-Con. is if you can find that discussion or that panel, totally worth checking out. That guy's great. Gives a ton of insight into what his process is,

why he writes the way he writes, the kinds of books he's chosen to write, that kind of stuff. And it's all very cool. So definitely check more out on that. The hilarious thing that I realized, this is just like apropos of nothing, but when I was making this little list and I was typing it up,

I realized that Andy Weir's name is weird without the D. Oh, weird. I mean, literally. And I just realized it because, you know, how sometimes your fingers get used to typing a thing a certain way? And then, you know, you have to backspace like, oh, no, I didn't mean for the D to go on there. I'll bet he gets auto corrected all the time as weird. It's got to be, right? I would say so.

Maybe his phone will get used to it. But geez, Louise. Yeah. Never thought of that. Make sure he has Andy Weird.com. Yeah. Get on that right now, Andy. former Blizzard employee

and have on Warcraft 3. Yeah, yeah. Well, all right, there you have it. We also have a book recommendation for the week. I'm excited to get to this one. You have a little setup for it. We do. So I wanted to kind of set this up

by talking about a post you made, Scott, and I'm really fascinated by this thing that you said. You said that all good sci-fi has heaping helpings of space religion and I'm paraphrasing because I don't have it up in front of me but that was

that was basically the gist all the big classics if you think about like Dune the foundation series Irobot pretty much anything from Asmov pretty much anything from most of the big classics

they all have some kind of big and it's usually based on like something scientific happened but then years later everyone went nuts and lost their minds and now they kind of worship it and they have a whole church around it but I love that stuff I don't know why so this is more of a thing for me and less of a statement that everybody you know should only have sci-fi with giant space

religions in it but for whatever reason I always find that stuff just delightfully fun in sci-fi well so yeah so I wanted to kind of revisit that because then you know I I kind of replied and I was like and I gave you a whole bunch of examples yeah and And, you know, Mad Max and, you know, a few others. And it was like, okay. And when you countered back, you said, okay, this whole thing, like the stand, for example, like all based on really. And I'm like, yeah, but there are earth religions.

Like, you said space religion. No, that's a good point. That's a good point. Did I misunderstand or? Yeah, no, that's a really good point. Like in the Mad Max case, they are very religious, but it's a hodgepodge of stuff. It's like Immorten Joe promises that his warboys will meet him at the gate. of Valhalla, if they die in battle, like it's all very pulled from, you know, other myths,

other ideas, and then applied to their apocalyptic time, you know, the history men, the guys that write all the little bits all over their bodies, history men and women, they are in a way, they're a religion unto themselves. They don't get super into it, but it's kind of, you know, world-y that they have a special job to do, and it's a very holy job and all this. But you're right, it's not in space. And it's also very derivative of stuff you could point to here, like Catholicism or ancient, you know, Roman gods or whatever. And so, yeah, my thing is like, if you're talking sci-fi that is, I guess it's a genre of sci-fi.

It almost crosses into fantasy because like Warhammer 40K, the Dune series, like I mentioned, Foundation, Red Rite. that series. I loved it. That's got big religious overtones, but most of it comes from long, long futures into space where everyone's forgotten about, nobody knows what the Methodists are, right? Nobody's talking about it that way. But instead, now we're like, the red sun of the whatever quadrant is the Lord, and we are all looking to it for advice or whatever. I love that because it's such a great way to take religion out of the modern context so that it's less divisive. We're not having an argument about, you know, atheism and Christianity or something right here. Instead, we're far flinging it and making it abstract and going, all right, now we can

talk about these things and what societies do around it without you freaking out because you think we're talking about your church up the road. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. No, and I completely agree. And I agree, like, good, good fiction in general, but specifically good sci-fi, I think gives us something to reflect on our lives, but with, you know, at least one level, if not many, removed from reality, right? So it's a way to think about these things where it doesn't have to feel personal, but you can recognize. the patterns you can you can see like oh this is like this thing is like that thing and so maybe we should think about that you know kind of thing um yeah so that's i i completely agree i think i just got hung up on the space thing yeah because i was like i was like but but all of that is like terrestrial earth religion you know like no it's a fair point tallia and the chat just said something that's interesting in the expanse a fantastic series of novels and

great TV adaptation in that story, the dominant religion that has usurped all others and become the biggest thing with all of the resources and all of the mindshare are Mormons. And that's fun for a bunch of reasons, one of which is actually kind of sensible. They're hoarding hundreds of billions of dollars right now. They have so much money. So the concept that they could parlay that into a future of being able to be dominant because they've got the most money of any organized religion is possible. But aside from that, having grown up around Mormonism and in a state with, it's not really

done, people think it's all Mormons here. It's not. But, you know, a large percentage. They're more in California than there are in Utah. But the point is that growing up in that, I know enough to know that that juxtaposition is also kind of funny. Like, it's sort of ridiculous and over the top. And I have to assume that this is how Catholics feel. sometimes when they're in everything, like Catholics are in everything. Hey, you have an

exorcism story? You get somebody possessed by a demon? Call the priest over. All the Catholics. Yeah. Well, and like dogma just got out of, what's his name? Not Epstein, other perverted guy that's in jail. Oh, Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein. Yeah. Because like Harvey Weinstein or like the Weinstein Company, whatever. owned the rights to Kevin Smith's movie Dogma. And so for years, you know, us Kevin Smith fans, we were like, where's Dogma? Why can't I buy it or stream it or anything? And it's because the rights to it were owned by the Weinstein Company.

And so just recently, Kevin Smith got the rights to Dogma back. And so now you can go and watch Dogma. I think they actually had some, you know, screenings in local theaters and things like that. I think Travis actually might have mentioned he was going to go see it in the theater. But, yeah, like, it was in, it was in, you know, stupid ownership rights jail for a long time. Sure. The vault. Very exciting.

I love the vault. Yeah. I loved, I loved everything about that movie, including the fact that, like, when people came out and protested it. Kevin Smith also himself came out and protested with them just to see if anyone would notice. So there's like actual news footage of him getting interviewed, like protesting his own movie because he's, he's that guy. But yeah. So yeah. So I think all of that is a really, really cool discussion. And I think that there's a lot to be said for like what religion, you know, pro and con, right?

it why do we as people why why do we feel drawn to that sometimes and you know and what what the nature of belief and and gods and all of that sure so this book that i brought with me today uh dovetails right into that um but this clip is going to make it sound like it doesn't but this is just the introduction and um it's just really really well read and it's It's really funny. So see if you could recognize the voice of the narrator. Oh, very nice. Real quick, I realized the elephant of the room that we haven't mentioned is literally a giant space religion was founded by a sci-fi author in the form of Scientology. So that's a big, that's a fun crossover that one, you know, or they just went straight to, we got all kinds of ideas in our books and let's just do this right here as well.

All right. Anyway, here is your. They went straight to, like, you know, being a joke by themselves. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, they've got, there are plenty of jokes around that organization. But anyway, here we go. Oh, and just a reminder, Utah's weird.

Don't come here. Our prices are too high. Okay? Don't come here. We're all weird. All those beautiful skylines are just green screen. Oh, my gosh. All of it.

The canyon lands, all the beautiful vistas, the nice dry, but warm weather in the summer, the beautiful snow in the winter, all that stuff. Forget it. It's not good. Everyone's got 50 wives. You should see all mine. The other 49 you never see. What a mess.

So I'm just saying, don't come here. Housing is too expensive as it is. All right. Here is your clip. It is about two minutes along. Enjoy. Consider the tortoise and the eagle. The tortoise is a ground living creature.

It is impossible to live nearer the ground without being under it. Its horizons are a few inches away. It has about as good a turn of speed as you need to hunt down a lettuce. And then there. is the eagle, a creature of the air, whose horizons go all the way to the edge of the world. Lightning death on wings, talons and claws enough to make a meal of anything smaller than it is and at least take a hurried snack out of anything bigger. And yet the eagle will sit for hours on the crag and survey the kingdoms of the world

until it spots a distant movement, and then it will focus, focus, focus on the small shell, wobbling among the bushes down there on the desert, and it will leap. And a minute later, the tortoise finds the world dropping away from it, and it sees the world for the first time no longer one inch from the ground, but five hundred feet above it, and it thinks, what a great friend I have in the eagle and then the eagle let's go no one knows why the eagle does this

there's good eating on a tortoise but considering the effort involved there's much better eating on practically anything else it's simply the delight of eagles to torment tortoises but of course what the eagle does not realize is that it is participating in a very crude form of natural selection. One day, a tortoise will learn how to fly.

All right, I think, can I guess who it is? Yes. I'm not looking at the chat. I have no idea what they're saying. I think I just finished a listen through a Return of the King that was read by Andy Circus. I think that's Andy Circus. It is. Okay.

It is indeed, Andy Circus. Did anyone else get it? A whole bunch of people got it. Oh, yeah. Not a whole bunch, but yeah. I think Sean Bloom was the first person that I saw. I was feeling very smart. I was very smart for a hot second and then you all were already smarter.

Good job. It took them a hot second. So yes, this is small gods by Terry Pratchett. And it is narrated by Andy Circus. And also the audio book also features Bill Nahi. So, yeah, like, I am also not a science guy. No. I am very excited to actually listen to that.

This is one of my favorite, favorite Terry Pratchett books. And I've read it several times. And I am excited to actually listen to this audiobook because, I mean, it's Andy Circus. Yeah. And talk about your quirky sci-fi lord, this guy, you know, got to put him on your list for sure. Well, yeah, I mean, so I didn't mention any Pratchett for Jen specifically because it's, I think of Pratchett more of like quirky fantasy. But yeah, I mean, if the quirky is the main thing you're looking for, then sure, yeah, go for, I mean, Terry Pratchett all day long. And in particular, you know, people who like Douglas Adams, that dovetails right into Terry Pratchett, right?

But since she mentioned sci-fi, I figured, okay, but absolutely, absolutely right. Terry Pratchett is wonderful if you like, you know, quirky, kind of tongue-in-cheek. Mostly fantasy. There's a couple of sci-fi books, right? Doesn't he have like, I don't know, isn't it? I thought he had some, like, explicitly sci-fi books. Maybe I'm wrong about that. I thought there was something, like Long Earth or some name like that.

I mean, all, yes. So I have, the stuff that I've read by Terry Pratchett is all the Discworld stuff, which is all, that's very fantasy-based. But, yeah, so I think, and good omens, but also fantasy. Good omens also fits into that, the theme today of, you know, weird religion. So this book is really fun. So it takes place on Discworld. And if you remember, anybody who's read any Discworld or has heard me talk about Discworld, one of the key things about Discworld as a whole is belief makes it true, right? So children who believe that there's a boogeyman under their bed, there is actually a boogeyman under their bed.

And the more that you believe in a thing, the more true it becomes. And so this book really deals with that and like how how powerful belief is and how really like we and our as potential believers, we are the ones who give power to the gods. Like self-fulfilling prophecy, a good example would be like if enough people are end times believers, we will self-fulfill that by just destroying. everybody and each other, right? That's kind of the idea. I mean, that's the parallel. Sort of. That's some of the stuff that can come up is like,

if we talk about it now on the ground, everybody's going to be annoyed that we're having an argument about, you know, people's religious beliefs that we are in the end times and that that means destroy your enemies. Jesus is coming, blah, blah, blah. But you take it out of that context,

move it into a fantasy or sci-fi realm and talk about some of those sorts of things to my original point. You can still, you kind of can have those conversations. Oh, for sure. affecting people and so yeah

this is it's it's it's kind of that it's it's less I would say it's less a cautionary tale about that and just more it deals more with like hey these these beings at least in this setting right in the setting of disc world

there are literally billions of gods and that's why it's called small gods they're these little tiny whispers in the desert and they only gain any kind of form when someone believes in them. Gotcha. And so, and it, the whole story starts in, you'll love this, it starts in a desert.

And there's a weird cult who, and this is, this is hilarious to me, there's a weird cult called the Omnians. And they believe in the great God Omnian. and they believe that the earth is round and they're weirdos for that because of course, disc world is in fact flat. So like it's really it's right there in the name.

Yeah. Right? Just flips that whole thing on its ear. But they are they are this like really. It's it's it's almost a retelling of like the Spanish inquisition in a lot of ways. Like they have they have inquisitors and like they torture people. So, in fact, the blurb for this on Goodread is, in the beginning was the word, and the word was, hey, you. For brother, the novice, is the chosen one.

He wants peace and justice and brotherly love. He also wants the Inquisition to stop torturing him now, please. So the interesting thing about this is, and the reason why brings up the whole parable of the tortoise and the eagle, is because the great God Alm, who has these big, huge church. churches and this, you know, really well-known following, nobody actually believes in him. Oh. They all go to church. They all do their thing because they're afraid of the Inquisition. I know these people.

I know some of these people. They exist in real life. There's only one person who actually really believes in Alm anymore. And so, and as his believership shrink. so does his form. So Alm is now trapped in the body of a tortoise. This is the most Terry Pratchett-ass thing I've ever heard in my life. Right.

Right. So, yeah, it's, and like I say, I just, it was, it's just a really, it's a really great read and it's really interesting because, you know, yeah, like when a whole bunch of people believe in a God, he gets humongous and he has great power, right? then, you know, it feeds on itself. But then when that wanes, he becomes smaller and smaller. That's the, isn't that this chief conceit or concept in American gods, kind of, right? Like everybody is, or Odin and all these ancient gods are, they don't have the power they used to have because nobody believes anymore. It's kind of, nobody believes in them anymore. Yep, exactly.

That's exactly, that's exactly right. So, yeah, and he's kind of, he's just, he's kind of the janitor at the, you know, he's a, you know, he's a. novice. So, you know, these are, they have monks and they have, you know, acolytes and whatnot. But he's a novice and has always been. And he's, you can, you kind of get the idea that he's a, he's maybe a little slow, you know, um, like intellectually. He's not the smartest. Uh, he's not the smartest cookie. But he is genuine, right? He is, he is just a pure, genuine soul. And he, he, he is, he is just a pure, wholeheartedly believes in the great god om and yeah so then um has to find him and and see if he can you know get back any of his believership is the arm thing the om thing feels like a nice joke toward omnipotence am i not wrong in assuming that probably probably yeah okay i love it very terry pratchett uh below you have it recommendations a hoy everybody oh give in the name of the book one more time, this particular book.

The name of the book is Small Gods by Harry Pratchett. Nice. And go back and, yeah, go ahead. Yep, go get that from the Pumpkin Cottage, our lovely sponsors who are sponsoring this segment. I've put the link in the chat there. I don't know if the link for today's book specifically is up yet, but that gets you the...

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the dogs have spoken yeah uh yeah no i uh bobby did you have anything you wanted to add sorry we i don't read very much unfortunately well i do read a lot but it's all boring science shit yeah I was going to say. That's like, where do bugs come from? I don't know. Do you ever have that problem, Amy, where you read a bunch in other parts of your life? And then when you sit down to read something, you're like, I don't want to read. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, I do. Although, you know, because I use audiobooks so much, it's now become, I think the neglected thing in my life is music now. because I constantly have like, you know, a podcast or a book. Or headphones on. I've got a podcast playing or I've got, you know, an audio book playing or something like that. I've got narrators for my life.

Same boat. Same boat for me. And I get music suffers the most for sure, no doubt. That's what I need to do, though, is I need to start doing audiobooks. Yeah, get in there, Bobby. Come on now. I'm sorry. Yeah, especially if you've got, you know, a long drive or anything like that,

audiobook is perfect for that. Yeah. It's great. That long drive from your kitchen to your. awesome studio room in there. I know, I have the same issue. I don't, I don't commute for work either. I don't leave the house.

Sometimes you got to go visit the fam or whatever and you got to, you know, yeah, but something on. Mays well be Terry Pratchett. Well, it's always good to talk to you. Amy, I can't wait for the next time we do this because we get great recommendations from you. Stay out of trouble and do me one favor and that is tell Chuck to eat it. All right.

That's it for Amy. We've completed our rounds. with her. However, got a couple more things before we go. Some housekeeping. Yes. One of them is very exciting, I think. But we'll see what people think. All right. So if you heard it on core, then you already know this. But we kind of have, so Bobby and I did six episodes of the instance on purpose. We brought it back for the new expansion that came. And we said, hey, we're going to do this. We're going to do a season. We're going to do six episodes. We're going to see how it goes. We're going to see what the cadence is. We're going to see what the news cycle is. We're going to see

what our response to it is. Moreover, we're going to see what our lives look like. How does our schedule apply to this? Like, it was a bit of a, it was a chance for us to learn a little bit and also prove out that we could host that thing well together, which I think we did. Sometimes, yeah, sometimes you do a podcast on accident. This one was on purpose. Yeah, this was on purpose. So all you accidental podcasters get some purpose in your life. Anyway, we did that and we've come lots of back and forth. I don't have to get into that because it's boring. But we are going to be bringing that world of Warcraft energy once a month or more,

depends on what goes down, when there's a big patch, when there's a huge thing about a new expansion or there's some big thing to talk about. We already kind of do that on core anyway because we talk about all big announcements on core, all around the gaming world. But instead of us just going,

here's a bunch of Warcraft news on core, we're bringing Bobby on to talk about it. He will join us on those days. And he will talk to us. to our faces via the internet and we will listen to him and we will all know what is happening in the World of Warcraft.

I'm really looking forward to that and I think we're starting on what? The seventh? Yes, the seventh because the new patch is going to be coming out on August 5th and so there's going to be World Warcraft news to talk about. We're going to need to talk about what's going on

and so yeah, I'm going to come on core and talk to everybody about that And then like you said, whenever there is, whenever there's a need or to talk about World Warcraft, whenever something's going on with World Warcraft, I'll come on. And that's where the spirit of the instance will live on. But you know what? One thing I want to make sure that people know is that as one of the biggest complainers of how Long Cor is, because I start an episode on Friday. And then I finish something. Sometimes I finish it before the next one comes out. I told Scott, you know what, I have an idea. Not everybody might want to dig through an entire three-hour episode of Core to get the instance World Warcraft content in there. Why don't we just, since people already subscribe to the instance feed,

why don't we just cut that out and put it on the instance feed? So if people who only want that can get it. You're going to get it. They can. You know, so whatever it is, however long we talk about it, it'll show up there as well. And so you can get that just that if you're not interested in the whole court. But you should, if you like video games, you really should listen to courts. I agree.

I agree. But there are still some people in this world. They're less than ever. But there are people in this world where they've got one game they play. And in that case, in this case, it's wow. It's not a problem. Totally get it. We want to service that.

So I'm glad you brought that up. That's a really key point of this whole thing, which is those people are subscribed to those feeds. You'll still get this stuff. All right. And we'll announce this on CORE this week for the following episode when Bobby's on, just so people can anticipate it there. I'll also put out a short little thing for the main feed on the instance to let people know to expect those there. So it's everybody wins, really. The big giant thumbs up.

The show lives on in spirit. The 20-year-on show continues down the path of enlightenment. Meanwhile, we adhere it to a more modern world where, you know, game. media has changed. Right. And we're right here in the thick of it. All right. There's that. That's very exciting. Also, we have an outro song to play today. Oh, before we do, though, Bobby, tell people once again about your shows. You got the weekly and you got the near daily. Tell people where to get it and what's going on. Well, you guys all know about my weekly podcast all around science, where Mora and I talk about science news. And that's the place to go if you just want to hear us having some

conversations about what we like in science and a little bit of that kind of stuff. But if you're interested in science news daily we've got daily science brief i just put one out it's going to be coming out in 25 minutes as of the time that we're recording this it releases every day at 1 p.m. oh my lord and that one we're going to be talking about uh neanderthals who probably ate maggots as a primary food source um vaccines are they're testing out delivery uh of vaccines using dental floss that's really weird. But the dental floss is made of maggots. Oh, maybe not. Yeah. Well, you'll have to, you'll have to listen to find out if that's true or not. All right. I'm excited. Your show's awesome. So check it out. More is great on there, of course. And we talked about the daily news briefing as well, or the science briefing. Check out all that stuff. Bobby, you'll be back here tomorrow. We'll have a chance to talk about it again. Yeah. Thanks for being here today. Thank you all for listening. I don't know if Brian's listening today. I doubt it. He's on vacation. But if he's listening, send me that review of

Fantastic 4. I almost said Final Fantasy 4 again. I almost did it. It's the F-F-4. Yeah. So it's confusing. Around the house, I've been calling it Fantastic 4 like that. Like not Fantastic 4, but Fantastic Fantastic 4. They're the Fantastic 4.

Yeah, I love doing that. It annoys my family, so that's why I do it. Anyway, we're going to play a song. We're going to get out of here. Chatroom, hang around for titles, and for all that fun stuff. We'll be doing that shortly. But for the rest of you folks. Let's get you gone with a song. I'm going to go ahead and pull up Brian's note on this thing. Here we go. And where did it go? Oh, gosh. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on to your butts. This is the part of the show that I don't do very often. Here we go. Tuesday's request. This is from Carl in Idaho. All right? Carl in Idaho says July 23rd is my birthday. Oh, let's give them a yay. There's a yay window and also a little song for you. Say, do you?

Anyway, he says, the 23rd is my birthday and of my creative-minded son, Eli. Oh, they share her birthday. That's very nice. He has decided to do an entrepreneurial thing to try and be his own boss rather than join someone else's payroll. I'm inspired by Scott making the same choice so many years ago, and so I hope my son achieved success. Brian, please choose any motivational slash inspirational song. That was the full quote. Well, Brian went with titanium.

You know the song, Titanium. heard of that? I mean, you know about the element, the metal. Yeah. Yeah, we don't have to tell you about that, you know. But he's talking about the song, a great pump-up song, he says, Callie Malpas, or Malpass, not sure how he said, is a British artist who started out doing session work, and this song came from the Umbrella Academy soundtrack. Big fan of that show. Hopefully some of you are as well. So we're going to play that song right now. It is called Titanium. It is from Callie Malpice. We'll see you guys tomorrow. I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose.

Fire away, fire away. Ricklechet, you take your rain. Fire away, fire away. You show me down, but I will fall. I am titanium. You show me down, but I will fall. I am Titanian You're coming down

But as you'll have further to fall And goes down And on in love Don't raise your voice Because sticks and stones May break my bones You're talking loud And say you much

I'm bulletproof Nothing to lose Fire away Fire away You ricochet You take your rain Fire away Fire away

You shoot me down But I want for I am tight to Titanium, you show me down, but I offer. I am titanium. I am titanium. I am titanium. Stoneheart, machine gun

Viaed at the ones who run I'm stone hard like bulletproof else You show me no But I will fail I am titanium It should be no But I will feel

I am titanium I am titanium I am titanium I am titanium I am titanium In the menu of life You make your main entree. It's delicious.

Delicious. Is it bigger than a man? Mouthpad?