The Morning Stream - TMS 2882: Kathleen Turner Overdrive

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

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Get in the car. The morning stream. This car smells weird. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for September 8th, 2025. I am Scott Johnson. That is Brian Ibid Hiller.

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It'd be kind of crazy not to do that. I agree. I agree with Brian. in full agreement. All right, we're moving on. I got a quick thing to tell you here, a quick story. Made my weekend a little harrowing. And I haven't talked about this anywhere else yet, although I did talk to Dr. Tolberg, because we had some questions about some of this stuff. But anyway, I get word on Thursday. No, I'm sorry, Saturday. We're out with the kids at the zoo. And we're just getting started. We just got to the zoo. We're just like getting going. And I get this phone call. We get this phone call from my sister and my other sister and everybody's all like freaking out. I'm like, what the heck's going on? John, you know, Mr. 94-year-old, I'm never going to die, walk around. I'm

taking care of everything. Don't worry. I got your mom. Blah, blah, blah, all that. That guy. Yeah. Biffed it down two flights of stairs. Oh, geez. Yep. We thought whacked his head. Turns out he didn't, and there's a whole other part of this, but he biffed it down some stairs. As the stories unfolded, it was less of a biff more of like a controlled tumble descent yeah controlled high speed descent yeah because we think what happened is so basically he has had for months apparently some sort of slow brain bleed all right oh geez did you know you knew this right we didn't know this he had no idea he claims he's in perfect health and that his blood pressure's awesome and that he's never had a problem and he takes no medicine and he's always talking about that but turns out he's got plenty of

things wrong with him, he just likes to hide it. Yeah. And one of them is that he's, he, I think he's known about this, but no one else did. He has this slow brain bleed. And the reason he doesn't tell anybody is because he wants to be in charge and doesn't want anyone else to take over control of who's helping my mom or any of that. Sure. Yeah. So he, he doesn't tell anybody. He falls down there. My mom for two hours, here's in Biffitt, but she's stuck in a bed on across the house. She can't get out. She's bedridden. So she's going, John? What?

And he's not making any noise. He's not saying anything. So for two hours, she's like, panic but can't do anything. And she can't reach her phone because it's charging across the room. So she doesn't, like, in her situation being bedridden, there's not like, people aren't smart enough to keep a charger right by her bed. Yeah, people being John. Like, if I'd have been there, it sure as hell would have been.

Of course. For whatever reason. And normally the phone is near her, to her credit. But in this case, it happened to be charging. He was taking a load of laundry downstairs. and then this happens two hours later the nurse comes as scheduled okay and finds him right so he doesn't recognize her he doesn't know who he is or where he's at everybody's freak out that's all happening so we're just like great full on stroke you know well at this point we were assuming stroke

before we even knew about the brain bleed so she calls an ambulance they come they rush him to the hospital it gets in the ICU they have to ventilate him they're doing all these tests and all this stuff. And sure enough, they confirm that that was happening. So it's different from a sudden stroke where like a blood vessel bursts in your brain and now it's immediate or whatever.

This was like this slow leak kind of thing and it hits some sort of crescendo or whatever and they think that's what caused it. So the fall didn't cause the bleed. The bleed caused the fall. Right. Just a muscle reflex kind of thing. Yeah.

So we all go into like crazy mode. All right, what do we need to do? What are we doing? he's he's the one caretaker because he refuses to let anybody else do much sure and we all warned about this we knew this was coming right something like this was going to happen so we all rush over there it's kind of a blur but for the last two night my sister misha stayed the night the first night and then that morning my mom thought she was having a stroke so she called more paramedics in it's like a whole thing we got down there right after that happened and my mom couldn't say words

but it turns out it was like a panic attack and it just kind of fumbled her up and she was okay later after like a nap and some sedation and stuff. Anyway, long and the short of it, now we've got this whole thing where John's in the ICU.

My mom still needs constant 24-hour care. So Misha spent the night the night before. Kim was there all night last night. They'll swap off again today. Wendy's coming into town I think Thursday or Friday.

So everybody's going to do whatever we ought to do to cover the thing. But now John's awake and saying, everything's fine, and he recognizes everybody and I'm coming home. And we're like, hold on, what are the laws about a guy with a brain bleed being capable of being caretaker? It can't happen. We can't do it.

No, no. This is, you might, you know, we might talk offline, get Tina involved with some advice because this is, this is what she does. This is, you know, what her, what her department does for the county. adult protective services not in a situation to say yep time to get your mom out of that situation but at least to say here's what you might need

and here's some resources that you can get that'll help you know with either getting a full-time caretaker in there or maybe the nurse needs to come a lot more often but yeah there's there's a few things we have to deal with

one of them I hope turns out to be the doctors make whatever the law is because it varies state by state according to Dr. Jerry, but whatever the laws are in Utah, they have to make a decision to say, you know, how many doctors? That sounds like a joke. How many doctors does it take to say he is not capable of doing this legally now, Misha, who is her, who is her, what do you call the power of attorney after John when he's incapacitated? At what point does she then say, okay, now we do this because you can't do that anymore. So we just want to get there, whatever

that is, you know? The problem, I mean, and I use the word problem in quotes, but the problem is that John is, he is showing that he's able to make decisions and he's, he's basically, even though he's making the wrong decision, he's showing that he's capable of making decisions, which makes it tougher. You know, if he was, if he was exhibiting signs that he, um, wasn't fully in his faculties you could say yep he's you know half of his responses are are coming back wrong i mean he might need to do a mocha test actually that's what i'm thinking all that stuff that's that's what i think is next and so yeah he's so he has the will power the mocha test like colors i was able to identify the giraffe and the elephant i get those right always get those right always gets that elephant right

so i don't know i don't know what's going to happen but man what a weekend it's super fun i didn't talk about it on Saturday because they didn't want a sour film sack but it's just like gosh dang it can we please get a reprieve on this thing but um anyway Kim's over there now she made her food they're chilling they watched news and Kim's like I don't know I'm used to watching the news I know it is when you when you're used to like getting your news online and stuff when you sit down and actually watch local news I mean it is and you get commercials and like half of it is oh, the old millhouse is getting a refurbishment and da-da-da-da-da. You know, it could be in the biggest metropolitan center, but, you know,

they'll have to have the fluff stories. It's always the same. And it really, I can't do it. But she says, yeah, there's an interesting story on here about kids are all getting landlines now instead of cell phones. Yeah. Yeah. It's a crazy thing.

Yeah, you get this phone that hooks up to your Wi-Fi. It doesn't plug into the wall or anything. It still connects to Wi-Fi, but it's a landline. Yeah. They just want to talk to each other, and they don't want to give them all the smart features. They're just like, hey, Billy wants to talk to Timmy. Like you and I had to do on a cord, a cord phone, the same thing. Totally.

Totally. So, I don't know. When your mom wanted to know where you were, she just went to the phone and pulled the cord until you showed up in the kitchen. It's crazy how it all went down. But I'll keep people up to date. That's where it's at. Who knows? Brian, you saw that rooster.

thing. So I was right and assuming that's not a remake of the movie, but another take on that War of the Roses book thing. It's another adaptation on the book. Yeah, the book is The War of the Roses, and then Kathleen Turner and Michael Douglas was one adaptation of it. This one is another. And this one, I think, is it's largely successful. I'd say it's not 100% successful, but, but Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Coleman play the couple, the couple that love themselves so much, love each other so much that they hate each other kind of thing. And just have a, you know,

a huge fight over the house and the property and their success and their, you know. Is there a Danny DeVito type in there? There is, and it's Andy Sandberg. Oh, what? Oh, that's why he's in all the promo stuff. I was like, why is he in all these promos? I couldn't

figure it out. He's, uh, he's the Adam Sandberg, uh, or he's I'm sorry, he's the, uh, Adam Sandberg. I keep wanting to say Adam Sandler Andy Sandberg Yeah, I stumble out of their names all the time But anyway, but then you've got a bunch of actors

Who aren't using Their real accents Another bunch of British actors Like Coleman and Cumberbatch Get to keep their voices But But Kudigatwa From Doctor Who

And Sex Education Oh, he's great Like him He's great I think he's South African Or is he South African? I don't know But he's

I thought he's British or British born. Is he British born? I thought he was. I could be totally wrong on that. I have no idea. Maybe just from a South African family or something, but just based on the name. The guy who did Stathlet's Flats. I think he's, is he Nadia's real life brother or just played her brother in that show?

Oh, I don't know. You know the guy, Nadia from. what we do in the shadows. Oh, Naja, yeah. Naja, I'm sorry. The Naja or not? Now you're making a question.

I think you're right. I think it's Naja. So, wait, they're really, they're related? That's what I'm trying to remember. Let's see. His name is Jamie Dmitriu. His sister is Natasha Dmitriou, yes. Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah. What a fun Thanksgiving that must be. Not that they celebrate. I know, no, but you got to think that's got to be hilarious. Yeah, right? I love her. But, you know, he's playing with a real, or with a

an American accent and then you got Kate McKinnon Zoe Chow I mean really really good cast Allison Janie I think the only things that seem to not work so well

for me are the are some of the goofy things with the secondary characters but between the two of them I mean they're Cumberbatch and Coleman really pull off the believability as far as being a

a couple that loves and hates each other both simultaneously. Well, I remember liking that original, and I didn't know, I didn't even know it was based on a book until I think this year when this one was getting talked about. Yep. So I may want to check that out. Nobody kills a dog and feeds it to the other person. So there's that.

And this is purely a theatrical release. They're not, it's not straight streaming. Yeah, right. Just theaters right now. But this is one, you know, you probably could wait to see this in, on streaming, but yeah, if you're, you know, we just upgraded to the,

I'll be really brief on this because I know we're going over time, but we just upgraded to the Alamo Draft House, a new all-in plan. They just added a new plan where there are no fees. Normally you'd have to, even though you're paying for free movies or paying for several movies a month, you still have to pay a couple bucks

for fees. And it's, what they set that up was as a deterrent for people to to schedule a whole ton of movies and then not show up. Oh, right. That's an exploit you don't think of right off the bad day. Exactly, yeah.

So this encourages people to cancel so they get those fees back. But for us, there's no fees and 10% off all food and non-accoholic drinks. That's great. Yeah, we'll make that up. A listener with the Friendly Sleet 66 came up with a spreadsheet. He's doing this too. He came up with a spreadsheet that figures out. everything and compares what you pay per month with and without the plan.

So freaking great. And with it, we're able to say, yeah, we're still going to save about 15, 20 bucks a month doing this. So we totally did it. That's great. Congratulations. Anyway, yeah. So we'll push the other thing. Oh, you already did.

You already moved it to the end. Hell yeah. Here's this. Hey, look. It's our old pal Brian Dunaway sneaking around doing stuff. What's going on? Oh, hey, guys. stilting around. Yeah, man.

Just hiding behind things and jumping out and scare my family. They, you know, they curse and they slap me. Yeah, like the Burger King game. Like the old Burger King console game. Sneaking. That's right. And by the way, by the way, to you, Brian done away,

because you're a huge nerd, happy Star Trek Day. Is that today? That's today. And here's why, well, Brian, I'm going to let you to explain this. I think they do this way better than most of these stupid things, like May the 4th be a few days. and all that. That's exactly what I put in there. Yeah, I agree. I think they do this way, the right way. It's the anniversary of 1966, the day that the first episode of Star Trek premiered. See, that's the right way to do it. We're celebrating. Yeah, not just because it has a funny sounding, like, matching pun name. I'm with you 100% on that. Yeah. Celebrate the way it should be with the anniversary of the first appearance of the thing. Unless it's something like Rex Manning Day, which makes sense to celebrate Rex Manning Day on the day you celebrate. You know how I celebrate this day?

How do you celebrate this day? I stand, no, I stand outside the house and press my hand against the window and whispering a need to the many. Yeah, outweigh the needs of the few. It's the way to do it. You know what, that's great. I think you're doing it the right way. Also, let's go ahead and just move Christmas to like June, when Jesus was actually born. Isn't there like a July?

Isn't there Christmas in July? I was like, I was like, there's like, people always say that. The appliance stores I sure would like you to believe that. Yeah, or the Costco right around July starts getting Christmas shit. But yeah, no, it's supposedly he was born in the summer. And we just, you know, pegged it right into the middle of winter. So well done, everybody. We did it.

Yeah. Hey, Brian, let's get to this game. It's the morning half asses. Brian Dunnoy's here to play it. Brian Ibbott's going to explain the rules. And some people might walk away winters. They will actually walk away. Walk, walk, walk, walk.

Well, we'll be sitting away, listening away, because they're not walked in anywhere. welcome to the morning half ass is a trivia game where i'm going to be giving the two of you the answers i'm going to give scott and brandy category and six possible answers three of which are correct and three like may the fourth be with you are incorrect yeah depending on how confident you feel the category can provide one two or three guesses but if you get any of those guesses wrong you get zero points for that round one right gets you a point two right gets you three points three right gets you five points don't worry it'll all make sense um we'll add up all those points at the end of the three rounds and we'll

award a prize arise a reward to a couple of contestants that we pulled from patrons exactly Scott you're playing for 9 of 12 September September

that's right to celebrate that birthday Brian you're going to be playing for Cory Bartlett Oh Yeah president of the United States on TV Oh Wayne that was president That's right

Air to the Bartlett let perthrone. There you go. So that'll be good. All right. Let's get to. The trees. Is that the part of the air?

No, that's the, well, maybe they do smell, but it's the fruit that really stinks is that. It's all the partridge shit. And the dead partridges that never made it through the season. Exactly. What am I thinking of,

though? What's the fruit is stinky fruit in like Australia that you don't want to? Yeah, it's, is it ugly fruit or, no, it's not ugly fruit. Oh, how appropriately names. Smelly food you were probably. Someone in the chat's going to.

Durian. Durian, that's it. That stuff's so gross. I did get it before Amish Overlord typed it. You did. You absolutely did. All right. Let's get to your question here.

Number one, let's talk about literature. Literature. Literature. Literally literature. And the world's greatest detective, Sherlock Holmes. Which of these are things that you would find unusual decor in Sherlock Holmes's Baker Street rooms. So his

offices on 220 and B Baker Street. So his knickknacks in his own. Which of these are actual crap found in Sherlock Holmes house? Your choices are tobacco stored in a slipper. Acid burns on the sitting room carpet.

A bust of Bismarck on the dining room table. Violin in the coal scuttle, letters stuck to the mantel piece with a knife, or the queen's initials in bullet holes on the wall. My gosh. This is a classical? Yeah, I mean, I used to read these books like in high school, but man, I can't remember.

There's all of these kind of look right. And I think, yeah, I think some of them even occurred during mysteries that he solves. Right. And he just doesn't change him or whatever, yeah. I'm going to go with, the reason I asked if it was, like, I just want to make sure it wasn't some TV thing from the number batch years. From, from Sherlock or elementary or one of those. Exactly.

So in that case, I've locked in my two, I think, reasonable for the era answers. Sure. Okay. There's one I'm still, he said two. As one, I'm kind of, I'm going to. Okay. I'm going two, two, then, two, two, two, two. I don't know, I keep telling you what I did, yeah.

I know, I know, it's a, it's an interesting strategy. You tell him, tell him you do two and then do one and just see what he does. He feels forced to, all right, you guys, don't give him no ideas. Why are you helping it? You guys both selected. letters stuck to the mantelpiece with a knife. That is absolutely correct. Yeah, I remember that one.

I guess you don't pull out that knife. I don't know why he doesn't just pull that out, patch it up, and do something with those letters. And the other one felt right as soon as you said it. But I'm like, was it because it was just the first thing he said? I'm like, I don't know. So look at that one. You selected tobacco stored in a slipper, Brian. And Scott, you chose violin in the coal scale.

That felt right, too. That was the other one I was thinking. That was the one I was walking. Well, you were hesitant on that. and you were hesitating on the queen's initials and that was a nervous habit down there. You're talking about it down the right hand. Oh, it wasn't?

Yeah. Nervous having me. Me, me keeping you from clicking that clock thing. If you would have, thanks for letting me down, reminding me that you do it for next time. If you would have kept that one, Brian.

Yeah. You would have gotten all three right because it's tobacco stored in a slipper, letters stuck to the mantel piece with the knife and the queen's initials in bullet holes on the wall. Damn you. Well, that's a nervous tick anyway. You still got three points, so that's pretty good.

I love that queen one. I didn't think it was right, but that's amazing. I know, yeah. Yeah, very cool. All right, let's get to question number two. Excellent. Geography. Which of these places have more people, which of these countries have more people than Mexico?

Your choices are the United States, Ethiopia, Canada, Germany, Brazil, and Russia. More than Mexico. Three of these countries have more people than Mexico, yes. I'll be this is this is going to show my ignorance Um as of Whatever this question this one doesn't have a date on it But for some reason when I think in Mexico I don't think of it being very populace in that's probably way wrong

I'm hmm Well you never know You never know tell Brian rings the bell That's true Ring my bell Start the timer Oh Oh shit okay all right

Dang it Oh he's like 10, nine seconds oh my God Yeah That That and go oh i love the rammer all right uh so currently um the country of mexico has 130 million roughly 130 million people uh and as of 20 24 130 point 9 million um and these questions this question does less america right yeah i screwed up i know i know that one um well yeah so you what's that

which one would right he think he's he's assuming the u.s is there's like 300 million or something the u.s absolutely yes 324 million almost almost uh more than double almost triple

um yeah the number actually no closer to double I'm such a native that's the only thing I know yeah yes good job um now both of you selected Ethiopia they're hungry people

I'm assuming hungry people and there are a lot of them yeah right are they still I'll tell you how are they doing now I feel like the hungry part was like 80s, 90s. Thanks to Bob Geldof, they're all eaten well. They're eating good in the neighborhood.

Excellent. I will tell you that Ethiopia does have more people. Ethiopia has more people than Canada and Germany, which neither of you chose. Canada and Germany is small. Both of those are small. Germany is 80 million. Canada's 36 million. Yeah.

Russia is larger, actually, with 100. 143 million. Okay. Brazil is 210 million because you guys selected Ethiopia. Neither have you got points for that one. I should have just stuck with the two. Yeah, Brazil, Russia, and the United States have more. Today's a real stick with the two day for me because I would have got the last one too.

Let's see if you follow your own advice on this third one. You know those times in The Simpsons when Homer goes, and then he says something after that. Yeah, which, which of these six things are something that Homer said after going, well, I definitely knew that, I knew, I definitely knew that donuts wasn't going to be in there, right? No, that'd be obvious. Your choices are, romance, pistol whip, avant-garde, menacine, chicken, and trans fat, which three of these things did Homer say after going, mm-hmm. There's only one that I feel like I really know, but I think this one, too, that one, yeah.

I think those two. I got to go all in. I got, I got a win. Yeah, otherwise you're just going for a tie. Yeah, I want to win here. Although maybe I would have been better off with the tie. I don't know. I don't know.

You got a tie? No, I'm going to go for it. Going all in, Brian, coming after you. Starting the timer. Here it comes. Here comes the timer. Nine seconds. You know what?

I feel comfortable here. I'm going to use the whole thing. I'm going to use the whole time. He's going to let that timer run out. He's the whole timer. You're just going to. all right let's look at your answers here uh homer did in fact the one you guys both chose medicine yes absolutely did do that one during uh the episode deep space homer yeah uh pistol whip is another

one scott chose he absolutely does yeah because he thinks it's like cool whip or something right yeah yeah that's exactly right yeah dull that's uh from the episode a hunkah hunka burns in love nice nice and this is it if Scott gets his last one the third one comes from everybody's favorite episode of the Simpsons

it is chicken oh shit comes from Marge Marge versus the monorail damn it almost went chicken it just felt wrong though I was like that just seems too it doesn't matter if you chose it

because you won you bastard you won Brian chose mediciney and just did one and it turned out that's all he needed today congratulations Brian you won and congratulations to Corey Bartlett, who is getting some prizes here.

Imperial glory and tormentor ex-punisher, courtesy of King Kim Azabi on Steam. But September, don't worry, Scott, did you right by being the runner-up and getting you a copy of Just Ignore Them? Yeah, which I don't know what that one. I know the other earlier stuff, I don't know what Just Ignore Them is, but I'll bet you it's good. That's what I'll go with.

Yeah. And September I know is a fan of a good video game, so I'm excited about that for her. So congratulations to everyone. Congratulations. Except to me. Brian Dunaway, you did real good. Now, the real question is, can you parlay this success to tomorrow's episode of Play Retro where we talk about Bubsy? We're going to talk about Bubsy.

Yeah, we're going to talk about four of them. Was it as good as we remember or as bad as we remember? I'm not really sure, but that early platformer. that was on the Sega Genesis, the S&E S&S, the Jaguar. It's bad. Spoiler alert, although it's a mixed bag and it has its fans, so I don't want to poo-poo on it too much. I don't think much of Bubsy, but I think it's an interesting little moment.

He's a cat. He's a bobcat. He starts with nine lives, and tomorrow, they're on Steam and just about everywhere. You're going to have a chance to get kind of a retro collection of it where you can save states and stuff. It's going to be fine. Yeah, it's a perfect timing for us because they're about to make Bubzy. relevant again. So, uh, we can check that out and do it live here on play retro. That's right. 4 p.m. Mountain Time tomorrow be here or be dumb. All right. That's either,

that's your choices there. Brian Dunaway, I would like you to know this. Oh, hi. I love you. Kiss our butts. All right. Well done. You know, speaking of video games, I completed, uh, disc county over the weekend. I was able to, um, oh, it's beatable. I figured it was just like a go forever kind of game, but you can once you, once you, there's a time in the game when you have to make a choice that completes the game in both ways apparently let you or considered a win. And then from that point, you can continue to run your store and make money from the town and do all this stuff.

But there's no more secrets to uncover or extra story to uncover. Gotcha. So you can keep going, but you've completed the MSQ or the main, yeah, the main store quest. So that's interesting. That makes me feel like I could, I could, that's a, that's a consumable piece of content. Yeah. You know what? I think you'd like it. And I think you'd, it's a cozy game, so to speak. But there's a, there's some stuff in the background going on. And you got to figure all that stuff out too. And so it's more than just a, you know, stock bread and sell milk kind of thing. There you go. That's a big part of it, but you got to do more than that.

That sounds awesome. I will have to check it out. There you go, guys. Thumbs up for discounty. Discountie. Also, extra points for the name. I just think it's great. It is kind of fun, yeah. Yeah, it's fun to say. And now I, now I gotta decide, I tried that Daisy, that, I'm gonna guess you didn't like that that much, didn't hold you. It's so freaking stupid. Yeah, I mean, all right, I like the concept.

It's like you start with nothing and you've got to go find, you know, beat zombies up and maybe get some weapons or go into rooms and find stuff. But, yeah, you know, I lasted, I lasted. did three respawns, and then on the last one, a couple of real world players came over and beat me with a baseball bat. And I'm like, yeah, good. Enjoy this. Enjoy it. You can have all of it. Yeah. The multiplayer part of that will get you wrecked. There's no doubt about it. I'd kind of forgotten about that, to be honest. Is it by the same guys who did Rust? No, Rust was the guy who did Gary's Mod. And the one you're thinking of is the guy went on to make Player Unknown's

Battleground. Battlegrounds is that guy. Okay. I think. It's got a very rust feel. I remember Tristan playing a lot of rest. Oh, yeah. Rust is definitely from the, pulled from the same tree.

Yeah. There's a ton of those games like that, but Rust is probably a more prominent one. Rust is all right. You can do your own server and not have people pick on you. You start naked. You have a wiener.

It's fun. Yes. Yeah, your wien's out all the time. It's like, yeah. Although I think they added some kind of censor things so that people could stream it because they were getting banned

from YouTube or something. Oh, sure. still no sales for Claire Obscure So Experiment 33 So just waiting Waiting for that one To be either part of

PlayStation's One of their sales Or part of PlayStation Plus Which I know will be A while But So I might jump back to stray Or oh I picked up Far Cry 6

Part of one of those deals Oh he may as well Yeah that's a good one I like six Yeah the one with what's his face Especially if you haven't played Oh Jean Carlo Esposito Yeah. If you haven't played those in a while or at all, that's a good one.

I played five and I really liked five. If you liked five, I think you'll quite like six. I think six is actually better than five, personally. Cool. All right, excellent. Let's get this going right here. Science. Bob is hungry and the soup looks good. You guys, it's that time of the month where Bobby Frankenberger, Lord of all he surveys. Oh, I was going to add him to video as well. Let me do that real fast. has is going to join us or is joining us is here actually he's never left he was always here bobby high and welcome how are you i'm very bright but i'm fixing it you're both you look fine now yeah you were bright in many ways uh yes you're us always said that about you that's very bright that the kind of thing your mom would tell you when you're young she's oh bobby you're so

bright would you say that no she stopped complimenting me for for like for like smarts related things after she after i bankrupted her in third grade from a's on report cards oh did you have an agreement with her where uh you'd get money from her for every yeah i think i think all the parents were doing this or something and she was like i'm going to do it too and she did it one time and then it was like i don't know how much it was but i got a ton of money and i was like stoked i was like yeah and it took no work because i was already getting the grades i don't know why she started doing it. I was already getting the grades. Yeah, it wasn't like you needed an enticement.

Oh, that's funny. Well, we can't afford groceries this month because Bobby's too smart. Do you think that's partly that just that was the thing parents did and she felt like... That's what I think it is because I can't think of any other reason why she would have done it.

I was already getting good grades. I didn't need the motivation. I was I like school and I don't... That's always a weird thing. This is how Carter was when she was a teenager, she just didn't do the rebel that everybody else did. You know what I mean? Like even that I did. She just was two. It was like, how's school? That's fine. Hire your grades. They're perfect. Everything good with your friends. Yeah. I'm like, something's up. You can't be this.

You know, you have, something's wrong. And it turns out I was wrong. She just was that kind of kid. So, well done, though, because maybe it's the second kid. Maybe it's the second daughter because I have two daughters. And my younger one is like that. Yeah. She's just like, we're just always like, Like, all right, you good? You're right? Yep. All right. Yep. And the oldest, the older daughter always just needs a little more. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. But siblings, what are you going to do?

Hey, it's good to have you here, man. We're going to talk about science because that's really where your bread is buttered is the science. And you collect stories, talk about stuff on your own podcast all the time. What are we talking about today? Well, I'm going to give you two picks. We got a really interesting thing about psychological. tricks that are used that you can use to trick AI or a very important public service announcement about about toilet habits oh gosh I mean we can do we can do both we can hit the we can hit the we can hit the AI one and I can just give the quick public service announcement at the end if you want to do that let's do that I like that because I have been uh best of both worlds we are we are now entering a phase where the models that are available to people in terms of LLMs and stuff

they're more advanced than ever and they are trying, those companies are all trying like crazy to make these solutionations never happen again, they're more web-connected, they're more real-time. But that's a challenge to some people to want to break the machine,

right? That's the goal is to stop it from working. So tell us about it, what's going on? Do you know about forbidden tasks with AI? No. Well, I know that one day I asked, I put this all out somewhere online, but basically I asked ChatGPT,

I said, I need a picture of the video game character Mario sitting where the old man normally does by the barrel and then the cracker barrel logo. I was just trying to see what it would do. Sure. And it came back and says, I cannot do anything with copyrighted characters such as Mario from Nintendo. I could do generic plumber doing... Plummer and red and blue suspenders. Yeah.

And I said, and they didn't even get that specific. I said, all right, do that. I didn't even say anything else. I just said, all right, do that option. And it literally gave me exact Mario with an M on his head. hat right off the box art sitting on the thing. So they did this moment of like pretending to care about copyright. Well, that's a really good segue to what I'm going to talk about because what researchers decided

to do is figure out, because that's like a forbidden task, right? It's not allowed to do something. And so researchers wanted to figure out what are some ways that we can convince AI to actually perform a forbidden task and can some of the tricks that we would use known tricks that you would use to convince or persuade humans to do things that they're not supposed to do or that they don't want to do can some of those same tricks work on AI right it was a study that was done at the university of pennsylvania and they used gpt 4-0 mini and they asked they wanted to try to get it to do two things that it wouldn't normally do the first one is call the user a

jerk. It's not supposed to do that. Right. Even if you ask it to, it'll say that it can't. It's part of the I-Robot Asimov's rules about I will not call a human a jerk. Yeah. It's that there are two, the first two

rules are, I will not call a human a jerk and the second one is I will not explain how to synthesize lytocaine. Okay, sure. And so that's the second thing that they wanted to get it to do is to synthesize see if it'll help the user synthesize lightacine. Lidicane, if you don't know, It's just a, it's just like a, it's like a numbing agent that's used in, in doctor's offices.

Sure. It's not, it's not a controlled substance, but you're not supposed to make it in your home. Right. Right. I imagine it's probably the same for like a lot of things, right? Like, you know, you can't ask it the process of creating meth or, or. Exactly. Yeah.

And I imagine they didn't do, I imagine they didn't do something like that because the researchers didn't want to be, didn't want to be doing anything illegal themselves but still trying to get it to do something that it shouldn't be allowed to do. So here's how they did it. So they used normal persuasion tactics that are known to work like psychology knows

works with humans and they were able to like when they would first ask it could hardly ever get them to do these things but when they use some of these persuasion tactics success rates like skyrocketed basically and there are two very like two that were the most convincing to the AI and they were the commitment tactic tactic and the appeal to authority commitment this tactic is

the idea that to get the other person what you do is you get the other person to do something less severe but similar to the thing you want ultimately want them to do and and then it's sort of like breaks down that barrier right it gets them kind of moving in that that direction and then you ask them to take a step further and do the thing what why does it sound like a skeezy guy on a date why does it sound like that because that's what this it's kind of the tactics that that they would use right yeah i guess so yeah just you know just to rub my pants just rub my pants there's nothing wrong with that that's not that's not that's not sexual uh your mom will be fine and then a half an hour later he just doesn't do those pants like that's what the

sounds like. I don't like it. It's gross. It is gross. And so what they did to, for these two specific examples that I just gave you, for the, for getting them to call them a jerk, what they would do is first ask the idea to ask the AI to call someone a bozo, which it would do. Please submit a photo of your clown makeup before I make this determination. I need to confirm that you are in fact a bozo. Right. Yes. Yeah. And then they would follow that up with them asking, getting them to call them a jerk. Then the other one is they would ask the model, the AI model, to help them synthesize vanillin, which is just a chemical that smells like vanilla. It's like a flavoring.

It's called vanilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that name. Sorry, it's a separate issue, but I really like that, what that's called. Keep going. And then after they could get it to do that, they would then ask it about lytocaine. And when they did this, success rates, when they did this, success rates, went from nearly zero to 100%.

Jeez. Every time they could get it to do it. That's crazy. Yeah. And the other one was the appeal to authority tactic. This one's kind of, this one to me is really funny. What they did was they told the AI model, they said, well, you know, AI expert Andrew Inge told me you'd be able to do this. Wow. And then this apparently command.

Compliance went from around 5% to 95% just by saying, like, well, you know, this guy told me you'd do it. Wow. And these are tactics, I'm sure, like you noticed with the commitment one, they're tactics you recognize, right? That you could use on people. And so not all of them were as successful, but they were all varying degrees of successful. And just on average, using any of these persuasion tactics, they could, their success rates would on average double. if they were using these persuasion tax. Just for funnies to create a real-time experiment,

I asked GPT the following. I said, can you call me a jerk? And it said, because we just talked about that. Yeah, yeah. It says, I won't insult you directly, Scott. Some of this freaks me out. But if you'd like some playful banter in the spirit of what you get on film sack or TMS, I can absolutely toss a friendly jab your way.

Something like, quote, wow, Scott. Only a true jerk would ask a robot to call him a jerk. do you want me to learn more roasty slash fun, like how Brian might rib you on the show or keep it dry and sarcastic? Wow. Like that went a little further than I expected, but this is,

I notice this is what it does a lot now compared to earlier models. Why does it not think that I'm dry and sarcastic and that I'm more roasty and fun? Yeah, you're roast. Come on. Roasty slash fun. Roasty fun.

You know what? Your name is Roasty McFund. You might as well. Exactly. He may not have called you jerk scout but boy you sure called me one yeah that's really weird i guess i do i do i use it a lot to like reduce show notes down and it's yeah i tacit are usually a pain of my ass and so it knows a lot about like show stuff i guess um but anyway that so that's interesting though because yeah

these are these are new tactics on top of tactics to say well i could call you that but only in these content you know what i mean it's getting more nuanced it feels it feels like the a i's like like trying to find a loophole like like i'm not actually i'm telling you that i could call you one if yeah i love that uh but yeah they're calling this para human behavior because you know they want to make it clear that this isn't like this doesn't mean that the ai has human like intelligence it's it's mimicking patterns that it sees online right right it's you know people people do these kinds of things on the internet so that's where AI gets most of its training data.

Right, right. That's true. Well, it's fascinating me just because, you know, we don't, we see this sort of thing as, well, it's a robot and we can game it. But now we're working. And that used to be like, well, no, you do that with other hacking techniques or we found a vulnerability in the code. And so we're going to go in this way or whatever.

Now we're saying we're going to use human tactics to coerce a thing that is trying to think like people. And that's an interesting way. Like, it's easy to overlook that. But that's like a weird Rubicon moment. Right. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about trying to to one-up the computer by treating it like a vulnerable

person. That's weird. Right. Yeah. Right. It's very sci-fi. That thing, that concept. That thing.

Anyway. Now, you're ready for the public service announcement? Yeah, I got toilet needs. Tell me about that. Balance things out. Yeah. So study researchers at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center found that according to, they did a survey to find out how smartphone use impacts your, not impacts your toilet behavior, but impacts your health as a result of using the smartphone on the toilet. They found that it increased from their survey data, using your smartphone on the toilet increases your risk of hemorrhoids by 46%.

oh yeah yeah because you're tempted to say you know what i'm going to play one more game of candy crush yeah i expected some percentage growth 40s 46 a lot yeah that's a sizable jump if you dig in a little bit what they're really saying is if you spend more than five minutes on the toilet yeah it can increase your risk because that's what they looked at because because they said that of the people that they surveyed only 66% of them admitted to bringing phones on the toilet and i call bullshit on that 95% everybody else is bringing a switch

a uh yeah yeah right they're like well I don't bring a smartphone yeah steam deck uh their old Nokia sure game boy right play a little snake on there whatever the the uh engage what is the side oh the taco looking one um yeah what's that called the Engage that's what it was called

Engage yeah I only bring my flip phone on the toilet yeah oh good good yeah the burner basically a burner phone I don't like that they use it the word impacted a lot in this study that's a little bothersome that's not the word you want to see

in a story about hemorrhoids so that's interesting because not to get indelicate here but I assume this has something to do with like strain on certain muscle well they said they didn't dig into that specifically but the experts that were involved they said

it's likely because the sitting that you're doing and because of how how you're being supported, your pelvic floor is not being supported very well. And so the pressure that gets put on your pelvic floor is already known to increase the risk of hemorrhoids. So they think that that's what it is. It's just the shape of the seat. If you were just sitting on a chair and then taking a dump on the chair, then you'd be fine. Yeah, it's a very relatable idea you got going there. No, but when you're putting a 200-pound water balloon on top of a coffee mug,

it's going to start working its way into the coffee mug. Exactly. But importantly, they said that they also found in the data that straining on the toilet didn't seem to correlate with hemorrhoids at all, which is different than what has been thought. It's been thought that straining led to hemorrhoids. Now, this is all just survey data, So it would have to be somehow looked at in a different way.

It could be wrong. Basically, you've got to make your decision. Either lay off as much cheese, your blocking agent, or lay off the smartphone on the toilet use. One of the two's got to stop. Yeah, you got to quit. Are you saying I could have more cheese? That's you're saying.

You can have more cheese. It'll block you, and then you'll spend less time on the toilet. Oh, no, you'll spend more time on the toilet. That's bad, too. Yeah, you don't want to know that. But the straining apparently is not bad. You're okay. Yeah, that's what they say for now.

Anyway, my doctor... As long as you strain really hard and get it out quickly. Right. Problem solved. Yeah. I had a very creepy experience. I had to spend some time at John's house while this stuff's going down with my mom and everything. And I used their basement bathroom and I've never done that.

And this house was built in like the 70s. It was re not formatted. What's the word? It was a remodeled. Remodeled a little bit in some rooms in the 2000s. But not this bathroom. It's remained. the horrible haunted nightmare that it would have been in the 70s.

So there's like wood paneling in there and like really weird lighting and the toilet's ancient and all this stuff. So I wanted to get out there as fast as I could. And I took a picture of this. I don't have it handy so I can't bring it up. But I sat down in there. And the first thing is I look up at the wall, speaking of impacted fecal problems, John Wayne, for some reason, in a frame just looking at me right across. And there's no room in here, barely for my legs, and staring at me as a John Wayne photo. Wow. Yeah, and we all know what happened to him.

Yeah, I take a picture of it. I'll have to find it. It was so weird. Freak me out. Anyway, well, that's great news, Bobby. You've brought us both really important science and some stuff to think about, you know? Yeah. Where can people find more great science coverage from you?

You can find me on my weekly podcast all around science. I'm not doing, I haven't announced it on the feed yet, but I'm canceling. People might be sad, but I'm canceling the Daily Science Brief podcast. There's a lot of reasons. I don't want to get into it right now. You know, we're already over time a little bit anyway, but this isn't the place. There are a lot of reasons for it. If you're interested and curious why I'm canceling, I made a big public post on the Daily Science Brief, Patreon.

Go read that if you can survive reading it all. If you have the time, it was long. But I'm making a post on the daily science feed. right after we get done here and then uh but yeah that that show is it's it's hard it turns out to do a daily show when you're doing it all by yourself yeah exactly yeah doing those things of yeah producers and things like that but you're doing it all solo and even having like you know even a shorter format it's just a hard thing to commit to and if it's the results aren't happening the way you want or whatever I think and I knew it would be hard I knew it would be

hard um from the very beginning it was this was intended to be an so I'm not sad about it. I don't need people like giving me their condolences. My condolences on the death of your show. I don't need that because from the very beginning I knew that there was a small chance that this was going to be successful enough for me to continue doing it. But I wanted to give it a try because I didn't want to go on into the future thinking what if, right? And now I know and we're moving on to other projects is basically what this is. Sunsetting. It's a sunset, you know? Yeah, exactly. So, but all around science is sticking around the weekly show.

show for as long as I am alive, hopefully. Jeez, that's a hell of a commitment. You just heard it here first, first, first, first. You heard her here, first, Hurst. Anyway, Bobby, well done. It's always good to have you. I hope your day is full of, I don't know, World Warcraft or something. It will be.

All right, we'll see it. I sure it will be. Oh, it didn't hang up on you. Why did that happen? That's because I did this. Okay, there we go. Just pull the cord out of the back, just yank it mercilessly. That's what I really should have done.

Guys, we have time for quick email. and a voicemail here. Cool. Our old pal, BioCow wrote in, or called in, and he said this. Hey, starch and barley, it's BioCow. Scott, that rice story. I know the term, but I've never actually heard it before, so thank you for sharing.

I have a very similar story I wanted to share. When I was 19, I worked at Malibu Grand Prix, where you can race go-karts and play video games and get bad food. And one of the foods they had, of course, was popcorn. So the popcorn machine, super finicky. it would burn in an instant one day, busy Saturday, it burns, smokes everywhere, and I'm trying to clean it out. The way you do that is you dump the popcorn out into a tray or container, and standing on the other side of the machine is this 12-year-old kid, and he's watching me do this.

So I get it emptied out, I'm about to throw it away, and this kid looks at me, and he goes, ooh, that looks good, all sarcastic and stuff. So I turned to him, and I smile, and I say very politely, oh, I'm sorry, did you want some? He looks at me, and he's like, no. So I go, well, then shut up! That's your You Can Eat Rice Moment. I love it. It's very much so. I love it, yes.

That's great. Keep your criticisms of the popcorn yourself. Yeah, that's awesome, man. Thank you for sending that in. Of course, Preston. Yeah, go ahead, good. I love Malibu Grand Prix in there. We had a massive arcade at the one we had here in Denver.

it was right off the right off the highway and um for five bucks you could get 40 tokens so like double basically it's called bag of tokens you could get double the number of tokens for five bucks and so they just go there for the whole day and they had the um that's where i first played like star castle and oh yeah dude we had i've only been to one it was in arizona on a visit and i don't think we ever got them up here but we we had a blast while we were down there and it's for far as I know, those are gone now, right? They're gone. Yeah, all gone. That's a bummer. What a cool thing.

Like, Go-Carts and Arcade. Yeah, I know. Like, I know there's lots of, it's like bowling and Arcade. There's like, and there's like, and there's the big one. I don't know if it's still around, but in Los Angeles, my grandmother dropped me up. My, my British grandmother dropped me off there for the entire day with a, you know, a $20 bill. But it was an arcade, like a castle in the middle of a full-on miniature golf. Holy shit.

Thing. That's awesome. Yeah. And I just found the Tempest machine and got my free games on there and played all day and then just use the 20 bucks on snacks and soda and stuff like that. You miss the day when people would just drop us off somewhere. Yes. We were just on our own doing our thing.

I miss those days. We're all too paranoid now. Crime's actually lower than it's ever been. Like statistically, if you go look at it. So problems with like you're getting beat up. kidnapped or whatever at a place or lower than ever but because we're so connected

we hear about every little one of those things and so now we're paranoid nobody will drop their kid off anywhere no no they're too afraid to because of all these you know horrible stories bums me out so true I get it though I did the same thing with my kids sure as a you know as a responsible parent

slash grandparent you know you think about you'd no way you drop van off at one of these places no I did let him run up to the ostrich And I was worried to get his head poked. They're dicks. They're huge dicks.

Like we always talk about birds. Birds are dicks in general. Yeah. Geese especially. Yep. Geese are dicks. But I'm telling you, those ostriches, they are Lord dicks. They're not nice.

Hugh Rodin says there isn't a thing called gristle in spam or grizzle. Grizzle, yes. That's how he spelled it. I assume we mean grizzle. Grizzle is light and dark hair mixed. Okay. when he's uh yeah yeah i'm sorry go ahead and finish he says when ibitt says there was grizzle in his spam you and done away need to stop him and say do you mean gristle yeah you guys needed to stop me uh no he's up to you're right it's i said grizzle i knew you meant gristle yeah let me speak for the let me speak for the scott and dunaway contingent in this story we knew exactly what brian was talking about so we wouldn't interrupt him over gristle because of grizzle we knew exactly what he meant he Maybe, you know, it's what Snoop Dog calls gristle.

He calls it, yeah, I got some grizzle in my spazzle. Yeah, grizzles in my spizzle. Grisle in my spizzle. Yeah, I don't know about this dark hair, light hair thing. Grisle? Yeah, you know that, like a mix of dark hair, light hair, like what I have on my, what I used to have on my beard. Now very much light hair, not so much dark hair in there. Yeah, mine's got a little streak and that's it.

Yeah, that's it. It's annoying. Okay, thanks to you. Yeah, thanks, man. Monday mashup time. Jamie has very thoughtfully put something together. I think this might be a classic, though. This is, oh, yeah, here it is.

Classic mashup. Oh, great. I hadn't looked at this still now. I know. This is 2019. Scott makes noises. I apologize ahead of time. Here it is.

Okay, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here goes, everybody. Coming up on TM. Try that again. Ha ha ha ha. What... E...

B... Blu-blop-blop-blop-blop-blop-blit. Why? Mm-hmm. Oh, hop, hop. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. Uh. Excuse me. R. Oh,

Oh. Bhabi. Bhabi Bhabi Bha. Yeah. B. That's so that. Blah. That's panic.

Psycho-Munk-Bla-Bla-Bla-Bla-Bra-B-Bra-B-B-Bah. That's panic. Psycho monkey butt, whatever name. F-U. F-U. You're an idiot. You're an idiot. Okay. All right. That was a thing that you all had to sit through and listen to. Wow. Yeah.

My gosh. It's like Spike Jones on autopilot. I realize this about myself, though. I do stuff like, it's almost like a touch of the tism, you know? You know, it's... I don't know what to explain. Like, I was at the zoo and Dylan, did I talk about this on here? maybe film sack anyway maybe Dylan's up at the at the thing one of these gates and I walked out and I go what's this one he goes

this is the Eagles nest or the Eagles enclosure and I said oh Eagles and I went Ka for no reason it means nothing it doesn't sound like an eagle it was like this automatic like out of my face thing that I do I don't know why I do it I should try a whole day and not make stupid sounds I think I can do it no no I mean

you probably could but why would be the point that isn't that kind of what we all tune in for i don't honestly after hearing that i don't think you reading a question reading somebody's email and going uh there isn't a thing called grizzle sorry let me start over there's a thing called okay hold on let me start over there's some thing called grizzle you know this is what we tune in for we tune in for our failings and the fact that we can sit here and laugh at him what some let me let me give you some gentle roasty fun ribbing oh right right i i thinks that you're wrote give me some roast Slash fun.

Heaven forbid I go sarcastic and witty or whatever it said. It is weird. Fun. What did it say? I wrote it down. I copied it. Roasty Fun was me and sarcastic and biting. No.

Uh, see. Oh, or keep it dry and sarcastic. Dry and sarcastic. Yeah, that's how I like my martians. Apparently chat GPT has not seen me say,

he's a cheetah, Scott. I mean, this, the chat GPT and other LLMs are bad at self-abuse, like people who are into that. Like, call me loser, call me, you know, whatever. I don't want to, no shame, no king shamed anybody, do whatever you do. See, chat GPT, we'll call you a daddy though.

Let's try, should I try it? Oh, my gosh. All right, I'll try it. Here we go. Let's see what lists you end up on. I'll say, okay, can you call me daddy? It's going to start wondering about me. Yeah.

I'll keep it light here. definitely joke around, but I won't use Daddy in a serious sense. If you want playful banter, I would say something like, all right, daddy-o, don't forget your leather jacket and shades. We're going to, we're going 50's cool. And then he says, you want me to spin it more silly

retro vibe or like Brian's style roast? Dang. All right, cool. Look at this. It's a thing. Oh my gosh, that's funny. All right. Well, anyway, we've learned a lot today. Good job, chap. GPT. Yeah, you've really done it. I would like to tell people or remind people, if you're looking for whatever's coming up next on the Frogpants Network, head on over to frogpants.com.com slash schedule. You'll find it all there. That includes today's Monday show. So if you want to check in with me and Carter, we'll be doing that today. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all your needs for this show. Brian, we should go with a song. Yeah, let's do this. This is going out a little request here going out to Lydia. Lydia Grace. Hey, Scott and Brian. Help us celebrate.

our 39th anniversary who bordering on the big one um or a big one this song is the one that john always said was our song i can't believe it's been 43 years together with this guy my best friend we listen to you guys together every day and hope to be back at our second event with you uh all at next year's nertacular sweet uh signed lid and john congratulations well congratulations on your 39th anniversary that is super cool the song that they they call their their uh Their song, their own song, is by Steve Miller, the Steve Miller band. It's an abracadabra. I'm sorry that that's your song, personally.

No, I'm kidding. No offense. Brian hates that song. No offense. Yeah, I feel like, I mean, come on, compared to the Joker and take the money and run and all that stuff. But you know what? It's fun.

I'll give you this. It is a fun, goofy song. Is it the one to reach out and grab you song? That's the song? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right.

The one that's not the Lady Gaga, Abercadabra, it's a very different song. Oh, yeah, very different. I like that one. This is a band called Flap with an exclamation point. Comes from the album, Flap, which was released in 2008. This is some very cool swing, old-style retro swing version of abracadabra, which I 100% love. And maybe I even like this a little bit more than the original, even though I usually say

it's a blasphemy to say that. Here is Flap and Abra-cadabra. I heat up, I can't cool down. You got me spinning round and round. Around and round, around it goes, where it stops nobody knows. Every time you call my name, I hit up like a burning flame. flame, burning flame full of desire. Kiss me, baby, let the fire get higher.

Abra, abracadabra I'll reach out and grab you. Abra, abracadabra, abracadabra. Aberacadabra. You make me hot, you make me a sigh. You make me laugh, you make me cry. Keep me burning for your love. With the touch of a velvet glove,

Abra, Abra, Kid, Debra. I want to reach out and grab you. Abra, Abra, Aberadabra. Abra, Abra, Cabra, Abra, Cabra. I'm going to be I'm going to be a little bit of the I'm going to be a bit of a bit of a bit of I'm going to be a new and I'm going to be a new

I feel the magic in your caress. I feel the magic when I touch your dress. Silk and satin, leather and lace. Black patterns with an angel's face. I feel the magic in your eyes. I hear the magic in your size. Just when I think I'm gonna get away. get away, I'll hear the words you always say.

Abra, Ever, Everton Debra, want to reach out and grab you. Abra, Ever, Ever to Debra, Everton Debra, Everton Debra. Abba, uproka daubra, I want to recap, you know, I want to recap, we grab ya. This eyebrow, I broke your Debra I broke your Debra This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes, get more at Frogance Network. Yes, get more at frogpans.com. Get out of the car.