The Morning Stream - TMS 2883: Hole Milk
Episode Date: September 9, 2025Blueberry Bacon. Yo soy Groot! Is it too early for 18000 waters? Did you ever lose your favorite Sean Connery quote? Solving the Wendy Malik Mystery. I like bad monkeeeeeeeeey! What rhymes with cheese... sandwich? Chewie's Bits. Sluggish Doorbell Prankster. This Star Wars game is the Hoth-ness. Tktktktktk. Do It On The Nines. Lotsa Little Bummer Games. Sending a Labor of Love for Todd. Stop dragging your weiner around with Dan Dan the Tabletop Man. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, blueberry bacon.
You so a Groot?
Uh, is it too early for 18,000 waters?
Did you ever lose your favorite Sean Connery quote?
Solving the Wendy Malick mystery.
I like bad monkey!
rhymes with cheese sandwich. Chewy bits.
Sluggish doorbell prankster.
This Star Wars game is the Hothness.
Do it on the nines.
Lots of little bummer games.
Sending a labor of love for Todd.
Aw, stop dragging your wiener around with Dan, Dan the Tabletop Man, and more on this
episode of The Morning Stream.
Yes, Toddy, the chocolate malt in a can.
It's so good hot.
It's so good cold.
It hits the spot with young and old.
Yes, Toddy pleases everyone.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for September 9th, 2025. That's a 9-9 we got today.
That's right.
Wasn't this a PlayStation release day, 9-9-19-9-19-9 was the Dreamcast?
Dreamcast? That's what it was, okay.
And then Mortal Monday was just a Monday.
There was another one with, oh, 11-11-11 was Skyrim.
That was their big deal.
PlayStation, I don't know.
But, yeah, I remember the Dreamcast was a big deal to get the triple-nines, or the quadruple-nines, I guess.
There were four-nines that day.
And I was in line at 5 a.m. to get one, like some kind of weird dumbass.
But I did whatever I had to do.
Yeah, PlayStation was just the boring.
Oh, no, here it is.
Nine September, 1995.
Oh, 95.
Look at them all gone for the-9-95.
Everybody wanted the nines.
Do it on the nines.
Like weather and traffic.
Japan, December 3rd, 1994.
But then North America, 9-9-95.
Nice.
I think I was up at 4 a.m. for that one, too, like a weirdo.
Yeah, pre-orded it with Ridge Racer and Battle Arena,
Toshendon.
Oh, yeah, baby.
They said that fighting games would never be the same.
And it turns out they were sort of the same.
But anyway.
Sort of the same.
Exactly.
But it was cool at the time.
It was all right.
It was just fine.
Yeah.
Nobody ain't nobody can complain about that.
Speaking to Ridge Racer, let me just play a little something for you here.
If I can find it.
All right.
Where did it go?
Oh, didn't I save it?
Yeah, I did.
Okay, here it is.
It is.
Ray Racer.
So there was a fall.
follow-up called rave racer.
And when you put a quarter in, this lady would go,
Raive Racer.
Oh, geez.
I feel dirty.
I know.
It's kind of sexy and not at the same time.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, maybe more not than...
More knot, yeah.
Leading towards not.
The needle is pointing more towards the knot side of things.
Absolutely.
Brian, I got a hot bit of knowledge to drop on you.
A big knowledge drop.
Give me some hot knowledge.
Drop it on me.
Big old drone over your...
your head, clamps let go.
Knowledge right on prime.
Boom.
I didn't order this knowledge, but I'll take it.
I didn't know this, and you may have already known this, but in the MCU, the MCU is now
famous for having the most money ever paid out for three lines of dialogue.
Oh, sure.
And when I heard about this, I kind of glommed on to, oh, that's who it is.
I figured it out.
So it's I am Groot from Vin Diesel, right?
All he says in those movies is I am Groot.
He never says anything else.
there are a couple of grunts, I think, or something.
Doesn't he say something different at the end of the First Guardians of the Galaxy?
We are Groot, he says.
Oh, we are Groot, right, right, right.
So he mixes it up a little bit.
So to be generous, I'd say there's probably four or five total words he ever speaks in some combination.
I am, Groot, we are.
Those five words right there.
And the N5 fan was misleading because it kind of made this claim that he got $15 million to say three words.
But that's not true. He was in a studio, and maybe it was only a day, but he was in a studio maybe later for postwork or something. Just saying those words in bunch of, bunches of combinations, different kind of emphasizes and yeah. Emphases. Enfaces. How would you say that? Emphasies. Emphasies. But that's it. Actually, I think that's there. Sure. Why not? But 15 million, you could do a lot worse.
Yeah, no kidding. Did he? So did they just read.
use, like if he recorded a full
day's worth of, I am Groot, I am
Groot, I am Groot,
or whatever, did they just use
all of that for the next
two movies as well as the first one?
I would think so. I would think so, except didn't in the second
movie, because he's the teenage Groot
or, you know, the... Oh, he's got a younger voice
and stuff. So I wonder if that had any
effect on all that. Maybe, yeah.
Because he was kind of teenagery about it, I am Groot
and stuff like that. Right, exactly.
Right, it's like snarky back at, yeah.
Either way, if that guy, if all he did was I Am Groot for three movies.
And it took three days of production for the guy because they didn't do mocap or anything.
No, no.
Let's say that's all it took was a day of recording for each movie.
And I guess you got some for Infinity War and Endgame and the Christmas special.
Oh, right, right, right, right.
Let's say six days of recording.
Yeah, let's say it's six total days.
Let's assume they didn't reuse any of it, which they probably did.
But let's assume they didn't.
I think that's a pretty good living, you know?
That's a very good living.
You can say what you want about Diesel, but, man, he, that one was a, that one was a perfect landing for, uh, for him.
Yeah, well done, Vin Diesel.
Oh, he also did the other language recording.
So, you're so, Groot.
Oh, shit, really?
Well, still, I think 15 million covers it, you know.
Yeah, I think so.
And he probably gets money on the back end.
There's always residuals and stuff, so.
For sure, yeah, and video game, I wonder if they use it for the video game stuff.
I guess they had a little bit in Love and Thunder, a little, yeah.
Is that him in the, uh, that Guardians game?
I wonder if that's him doing the voice.
I don't know.
Because no one else is.
They're all different voices.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They probably just punish somebody to do it.
Probably.
Cheaper than $15 million is what I'm thinking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
That game, by the way, for the world to hear, that is an underrated ass game and people
should play that game.
It's so good.
It is.
It's a lot of fun.
And it's, and it's, uh, yeah, no, no complaints.
As a matter of fact, that could be,
one I go back to now with the PS
portal too, too. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that would be a great one on there, I love that game.
That game is underrated and is way more
comic adjacent than it is movie adjacent.
And at the time, it got a bunch of heat for having
constant snarky dialogue, but then you have to remind people,
this is Guardians of the Galaxy, what you expect?
Look at the source material. Yeah, exactly.
And what, you know, it was probably getting residual heat
because didn't the Avengers game come out shortly before that
and people were, you know, that...
After that, I think.
That was poop.
Oh, did it was?
It was after, but it was poop.
Okay.
That was poop.
It's like, it's hit and miss, right?
The Spider-Man games are fantastic.
The Gardens of the Galaxy game is great.
Midnight Suns is great, but man, they've been some, lots of little stinkers mixed in.
Lots of little bummer games.
Brian, speaking of a game, we've been playing a game for years now.
Yes.
I think.
Has it been this long since you've been trying to find this lady?
No, it's not.
Okay.
I can't remember what we last talking about it.
You're just not going to let me set this up, are you?
No, you go ahead. I'll give you wide, wide, Brian, you get the full runway. No other planes are allowed.
Fun roasty is what I just gave you. Some fun roast. Fun roasty.
All right. So a little over a year ago, the date was May 28th, 2024. I came on this very program after having a dream.
And I didn't go back and listen to the audio from the dream, but the essence from what I remember was that I went to, oddly enough, a cost plus.
with Daniel Kaluah and a mysterious brunette woman
that with a nasal voice that I kind of recognized.
And I kind of like, oh my God,
woke up from the dream like,
all right, Daniel Klua, all right, makes sense.
But who is this mysterious like brunette nasal voice
kind of looks like Wendy Malik?
As a matter of fact, I guess let's look at some of these.
Yeah, there we go.
There was the first thing.
I guess I could have screenshot of that better.
and made it fit widescreen
a little bit better than I did.
It's all good.
I'll read it for those who can't see it.
Brunette Act is what Brian says,
and this is back on 530, 24, so about a year ago.
Brunette actress,
longer, darker brown hair,
slightly nasal voice,
a Wendy Malick vibe,
similar age, facial features,
but with darker,
more striking eyes,
the characters are remembering her for,
sorry,
remembering her for is a clueless booking agent
or someone in an industry
where she takes people's requests
and in her case fills them badly,
not a known name character actress.
And so you were, this was the initial like stab in the Discord.
They're like, let's find this lady.
Exactly. Yes.
And people created a spreadsheet and they gave me 58 versions of Kate Walsh,
saying, you know, maybe it's Kate Walsh.
How about Kate Walsh?
Is it Kate Walsh?
And then I did this follow up.
Yep, that post right there.
Yep.
And she's the one from, in fact, I think that's a Seinfeld capture screen, isn't it?
Or it could be one of those sitcom.
It might be or just shoot me.
It was either just shoot me or Seinfeld.
Yeah. And basically I said, all right, here's a close photo.
Obviously, this is Wendy Malick, but the version, the actress I'm thinking of looks a lot like Wendy Malick in this photo, but with darker staring eyes and straighter hair.
Right.
Last night or yesterday afternoon, I'm watching the new season, I think it's the final season of Upload, the Amazon Prime show, about uploading yourself into the cloud when you die and that sort of thing.
and Scott, she appeared
and I was able to like
trace her back to where I saw her
initially as this clueless agent
and she was on 11 episodes
of the show episodes.
Oh, you even sent video.
You want me to play this so we can go see her?
Play the video. This is her
and this is a good example of who she is
and good close-ups of her too.
All right, here you go.
Well, obviously
it's incredible blattering.
And if it were just me,
do it in a heartbeat.
Well, maybe we can get Bev on board.
Oh, my gosh.
I know who that is.
Wendy Malick.
Like a sister.
Nasal,
nasal long straight hair.
Sooner, the better.
No, I know, but I think if I broach it in,
she looks like your sister to me.
She's less likely to reenlist.
God, they're still making you shoot those.
Is no one looking out for you guys?
Who's representing you here?
Oh my gosh.
That's dead on for the comparison.
Like, now I know I'm not crazy.
And I, sorry.
Jeannie, I think you might have been the one who said,
Brian, I think it's an
amalgamation of several different women
or you've just imagined her and da-da-da-da.
I'm happy to say
I did not lose my mind
a year ago.
They say, you know,
they say mysteries are never solved, but I say
today we proved everybody wrong.
Yes, exactly. So
carbonated meat,
your time is up.
You're on deck.
Yeah, and everybody who keeps sending me the same
fizzy beef
photo.
That is not it.
That same recipe
on how to make
fizzy beef.
I get it all the time.
It tries me crazy.
But anyway,
she doesn't done,
there's not a lot
that she's done
that we know
that we know her for.
I'm sorry,
I never said.
The woman's name
is Andrea Rosen.
Oh,
okay.
She's known for episodes
the 10.
Stella, squirrel.
She's on 21 episodes
of upload,
which is probably where I have seen her most recent.
Well, obviously it's where I saw her most recently,
but even those previous seasons I saw more recently
than when she was on episodes.
But she's a director as well,
and she was in that Wet Hot American Summer.
Oh, the 10 years later thing, yeah.
The 10 years later thing.
Get Shorty, the TV series.
I forgot they tried to make it Get Shorty series.
You know me too.
That's a bummer.
didn't work out. I loved, uh, it's another, um, uh, justified author. What's his name?
Uh, Leonard. Leonard. Uh, Elmore Leonard. Yeah. It's another one of his joints. So I, I was
super jazz when I first heard it. Then I forgot all about it. Well, watch a bad monkey for that vibe.
Oh, I like bad monkey. Yeah. Or I want to watch bad monkey. Yeah. Watch bad monkey.
Generally, I like bad monkeys. So, so. Except Mickey Dolan's. I don't like him. Is that, is that, is that the
collaboration between, oh my God, I'm going to blank on both showrunners, but when you combine
the showrunners of bad robot and stupid monkey, Seth Green, and, um, J.J. Abrams.
J.J. Abrams. You get bad monkey. You get bad monkey. Yeah. Or if you're in Indiana Jones
in the Temple of Doom and they open up the skull of a chimp, that's bad monkey. That's bad monkey, too.
Yeah, don't be. And then a solid goes, oh, bad monkey.
Bad Monkey, Hindi.
All right, well, we did it.
Well done, everybody.
One quick note before we jump to news.
Yes.
I'm very sad about this.
This hit me kind of hard.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, this is a bummer.
We have a lot of fun at his expense have in the past.
We've had our, you know, our little issues with the game, with the podcast awards and all this stuff.
Todd Cochran passed away.
Yeah.
Out of kind of nowhere, literally died traveling.
He just died suddenly.
they say in his obituary um i'm just i was really taken aback by this
really through me this morning so i just the best to his family and everybody close to him
and he had uh we regardless of the fun we used to have with him he was one of the most
passionate early podcasting voices that ever existed absolutely was and he started that you know
we obviously we we had fun with the podcast awards both um winning the podcast awards
and also poking fun at the podcast awards but he started all of that himself did it all you know solo
initially yeah because of his love for podcasting and um uh you know he's a he's a voice in the industry
that uh um we're definitely going to miss yeah i hate i really hated this news um and i shared it with
brian as soon as i saw it i was like are you kidding me like this just felt like out of nowhere
but anyway best to his his family he had some kids and grand
kids and um i think they all lived in hawai for the last
15 years or something six just 61 years old i mean you know it's older than us but it's still
relatively young yeah and he was just traveling back from the west coast seeing some
family uh to see to get back home until hawai and and he i think he passed maybe even on the
flight but anyway just awful and one of the um you know we're in the podcast academy
the honor hall of fame and uh he was he was one of the first people inducted rightly so because
I think you may have been the very first, right?
The first batch, the first year, I think.
It looks like he may have been even the first that was handed to him.
I'm not sure about that.
Oh, really? Okay.
But, yeah, no doubt.
Like, what a impact.
So, hats off.
We had our fun with you, but it was all a good fun.
I don't know if we want to step up an offer to take over the podcast to words
because it sounds like it's a labor of love.
Yeah, I don't feel like it's a labor of love this year.
I don't feel like we're going to love it.
No, we're not doing that.
All right, everybody, time for some news.
Sit back, relax, and let it wash over you.
Brian, the news today is brought to us by somebody.
Brought to you by Daily Music Headlines.
Find out today about the new records set by K-pop Demon Hunters.
I mean, it feels like this soundtrack is setting records every single day.
And it kind of is.
Yeah.
It's just, it's a juggernaut of crazy proportions.
Um, the Eagles find out about them extending their Las Vegas residency.
They're not going to, they're never going to stop.
No, no.
Find out what nine inch nails is doing with the, uh, Tron Rides.
What?
What?
And, um, and, uh, Taikua Titi working on a new brand new musical about the fire festival.
Oh.
So get ready for that.
Uh, we'll all find out what rhymes with cheese sandwich and styrofoam.
So wait, it's a musical, really?
It's going to be a musical.
Yeah.
That's great.
I know.
It's going to be, I mean, I'm excited all of a sudden.
Regardless of how it is, it's going to be better than the fire festival.
Guaranteed.
Go watch one of the documentaries if you haven't.
They're all great and they're all hilarious and they're all devastating how bad that thing went.
Just insane.
I promise, no, I promise everybody here, nerdtacular won't be that next year.
Okay.
We'll do better than cheese sandwiches.
We'll definitely do better than cheese sandwiches.
is it's styrofoam and
water you have to do what to get?
All right, well, let's get to it.
Wild pigs in the news.
Okay.
This is very weird this story.
Wild pigs.
It does sound like some ridiculous punk band.
Rock band, yeah.
Something you'd have to put on Beavis's shirt
because Metallica won't let you have their rights
for a movie or something.
Anyway, wild pigs turns neon or turned neon blue
in California.
And triggered a bunch of warnings.
So these are actual pigs.
Okay.
And their guts are neon blue.
It's the flesh inside the pig.
This triggered a bunch of advisory statements and potential contamination.
Dan Burton says,
I'm not talking about the little blue owner of Wildlife Control Company or a company that does that.
Told Salvador Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times, quote,
I'm talking about neon blue, blueberry blue.
I think those are maybe two different blues, but whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, exactly.
Blueberry is a little bit darker than neon blue.
Neon blue is, you know, your Labats sign in a liquor store.
I would call this image here.
You can see it here.
They're looking at the inside of this pig.
I'd call that blueberry.
That looks blueberry.
Yeah, I would also call that gross red hand.
Yeah.
That looks like that dude's got a middle finger and that's it.
I know he's got more than that, but, gee.
Yeah.
But that is, I mean, that is.
Yeah, I would go more blueberry blue than neon blue.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's a live pig and that doesn't hurt, you know.
I'm guessing that's a dead pig.
Probably.
I don't think you hold a pig open like that.
Yeah.
A wild pig open like that.
I don't know.
Maybe.
I remember put my hand in a cow that had a hole in it and that was weird.
You ever done that?
No, I've never put my hand inside any sort of livestock, actually.
So sometimes I don't know the terms for this.
we're going to have to have some of our farmer folk call in farmer folk but it basically they put
because cows have issues with like gas build up and sometimes this I guess they have more than
one stomach right so they have to do special things to deal with that and one of them is one of them is
one of the biggest creations of methane is is livestock is you know oh that's right for years there
was all that worry about they were killing the ozone layer or whatever or maybe that was
hairspray I don't remember what we did but anyway uh I saw I
I saw one of these once and I got to put my hand in it,
but basically it's they cut a hole into the side of the cow
and I could reach into this hole.
Oh, geez.
And like express its stomach farts or, you know,
like basically squeeze out the gas kind of thing.
I think that was it.
But I remember seeing like it was during the pink slime documentary
about McDonald's fast food that I saw them putting a hole in the side of a cow
or something like that.
There was like some reason that they were,
um,
oh,
I found it,
they had a hole in the cow.
I found an image.
Does this look like what you saw?
Because this is what it reminds me of.
They had a little cap on it and you would take it off.
Oh,
wow.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Like a little bored and milk.
Like you could pour milk out of that,
out of that opening if you tip the cow sideways.
Yeah.
And this is essentially what they let me do.
Um,
when I was there is.
And I bet you made a face just like this kid too.
Oh,
I think it was way more grim.
It was probably grinned.
It was probably grinned.
missier. I probably, it was like more of a frown than a smile, but, uh, yeah, it gross, it legit grossed me out.
And by the way, the cow didn't seem to mind at all. He's just chilling. You didn't care.
Wow. They're either too stupid to say or it doesn't hurt. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, Tina had a
port. When she was going through chemo, she had a port. Yeah. You're reaching there sometimes and
never reached in there. No, it was a little too, it wasn't big enough for me to put,
put, uh, any part of me. And it was a little tiny port. But, uh, well, I guess, uh, uh, I guess,
if you're a cow, you may end up with a port.
It feels like it's a, what's the word?
Like a potential viral infection zone, right?
I know the kid has a plastic bag on his arm when he's sticking his arm in there.
But just an open hole in the side that just has a little knobby turn to close.
It feels like, like, you know, there's the inside of a creature.
Yeah, I don't, I assume the porthole or the cover is probably partly there to do just that, right?
To protect against stuff?
Yeah, to keep flies out and stuff.
But I still don't, I still don't see how it's like sanitary at all regardless.
It just seems gross.
Everything about it.
Exactly.
This is the whole, if I was a cow, it's the hole I'd want right here.
Just right through me.
Perfect.
Just right through it.
Yes.
Big cartoon hole.
Exactly.
Like the Tasmanian devil just ran through a cow or something.
Well, speaking of places that take some of that.
old beef and turned it into something.
Sure. Taco Bell is rethinking
their AI drive-through
after a man ordered 18,000
waters.
Oh, that's great because
water's free and he just like said,
all right, let's have some fun with this.
Yeah, and the AI said, sure, here you go.
And the waters are, this isn't
bottles of water, mind you, this is cups
put under a thing,
a drink, lid, straw, potentially, all that.
18,000 of them.
So here's what happened.
They're rethinking their use of
artificial intelligence to power drive through restaurants in the U.S. after a comical video
of the tech making mistakes was viewed millions of times. In one clip, a customer seemingly
crashed the system by ordering 18,000 watercups while in another person got increasingly angry
as the AI repeatedly asked him to add more drinks to his order. So some of this is the system's
not ready. Not people, right, exactly. It's people finding exploits because the AI hasn't
been fully bulletproofed yet.
Yeah, they started this, I guess, in 2023, and they're in 500 locations.
I don't think I live near one.
I've never had these happen.
The Wendy's near me, two blocks away from me, has AI ordering.
And the first day I saw it, I pulled up and I said, oh, because I was grabbing breakfast
for Tina.
I said, all right, let me get a bacon and egg biscuit because their biscuits were a buck
for breakfast.
It was like, oh, let's try it for a buck.
right um bacon and egg uh croissant please or biscuit and uh i'm sorry we're out of those could i recommend
a bacon and egg biscuit instead and i wish i had something to record it with because the look on
my face it was a very bum bum bum do you're doing that like exactly yes that's great um the taco
bell technology had this guy named dane matthews uh says sometimes
it lets us down, but sometimes it
really surprises me. He said the firm
is learning a lot, but now are
thinking more carefully about where they're going to go with this in the
future. In particular, he said, there are
times when humans are better place to take orders,
especially when restaurants get very busy.
So that makes sense to me. Things are
slow. Let the robot take your simple
order. Totally. No big deal. But when they're
crazy, this is interesting.
Because I think the idea is
from the corporate level, the reason they want to
do this is multifaceted,
One is you pay less if you have less employees.
I don't want to get into that today because Claire will surely do that in the chat room for us.
But the beef or the thing that I would see with this is if you were going to implement something like this,
your whole goal would be how do we maximize productivity during those times that are slammed?
Yeah, is it better to have the drive-thru employee working the line and assembling burritos
rather than having them sit in the little booth with the register and taking orders.
Yeah.
And I, yeah, obviously, that's not working out the way they wanted.
Also, 2023 was kind of early for this implementation.
It was, yeah.
I remember, you know, 2023, I don't remember any AI being used like this.
But we had the recording, and we still do, I think, at our local Taco Bell that does the,
Hi, welcome to Taco Bell.
Can I take your order?
And then it's like, yeah, let me get, um, uh,
the taco salad and a diet Pepsi.
Okay, pull up to the first window.
Yeah, like, hang on a second.
It's like, well, hold on.
There was a nice lady here before.
Exactly, yes.
Who are you?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm curious about this because I do think it's here,
it's here to stay in that business.
They're just going to have to figure out to implement it.
Yeah.
God, what do you do?
If you're a programmer, do you,
because they're going to be legitimate times that somebody does,
they're going to do a football game,
a kids football soccer game or something they're like oh we need let's just get 100 tacos and they're
going to say let me have 100 tacos yeah how do you how do you pick out the times when it's a
legitimate order versus somebody who's ordering 18,000 waters i mean yeah they're you know 18000
tacos red flag right i mean i guess if you order all those waters on a normal day a person at a
drive up and a person is taking your order yeah person taking the order would go even if they're new
and a little bit inexperienced,
they'd go, oh, hold on a second,
and they'll go talk to the manager.
I mean, there's that trigger, right?
Maybe the AI says, you know,
if you get any orders that are larger than this sort of thing
or request something that isn't usually done,
say, let me hold on while I grab a human being
or let me get a manager or something like that,
and then bring the manager to like override and say,
yeah, they genuinely want 100 tacos.
Yeah.
Or they genuinely, they're trying to,
of trick us and do 18,000 waters. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Kibush this guy, uh, flatten his tires
while he's in line because he's ordering. He's, he's punking us with his 18,000 waters.
Like I always said on DT&S, the, the thing with this AI stuff is that there will always be a test
bed of people who want to break it. And so no matter what you do, no matter how well you implement it,
somebody somewhere is going to find a way to break it. It's actually good for the technology. Again,
take aside all the ethical.
questions. Yeah. It's like white half hackers. Yeah. It's that you have to learn. This thing's got to learn to do better. How's it going to do it? People trying to break it. So. Right. Well, all right then. Playtesting is basically what they're doing. Yeah. They're playtest. There you go. They're play testing. I like that. Here's an interesting one. We'll go to Germany for this one. Okay. All right. A doorbell prankster that has been tormenting residents of a German apartment complex for for a long time. Like people are like, what the hell's going?
on. We got to stop these kids. Yavor, yvort, yvort, nine, shnail, like all that.
Turned out was a slug.
Just passing over, just crawling his way over the button.
Yeah, just a slug. The slug had been sliding up and down the bell plate, creating havoc
in the building, because it's one of those buildings where you ring it.
Oh, it's like multiple. Oh, it's like one of those where you buzz from the entrance.
Yeah, you got to buzz in and or are you, I assume they're, I mean, this doesn't get that into it,
but I think it's like a bunch of numbers.
That's what it sounds like, yeah, bell plate is, I think, one of those where it's like, like the New York apartments where it's like, all right, B-13, yeah, hey, it's me, I get your door dash, all right, bz, open the door, go in kind of thing.
It says the people were waking up at midnight, they couldn't sleep, they were pissed, they called police, all this stuff.
My favorite part of the story, though, is the German word for bell prank, and that's, oh, clingles strait.
Klingle strike.
What happened last night?
Oh, we had another Klinger strike.
Do you think, so do you think was this thing inside the buzzbox and was like just going down the line of?
Yeah, real slow.
And then so there'd be nights where it didn't touch anything and then nights where it would touch multiples, right?
Oh my God.
I love it.
I really love this.
Yeah, this is one of my favorite stories.
Anyway, they figured it out.
Oh.
It's another German word in here
that I'm surprised you weren't
as equally excited about
German for naked snail
which is knoxninky
Nakhshniki
What's that in the fridge
That's a knack schninky
That's amazing
Fantastic
I love German
Man
If it wasn't for those two world wars
You guys are the best
Yeah
Yeah you guys would be our favorites
If we're for that
Yeah if it wasn't for that
Now you're pretty good
Yeah I like Volkswagen
Sorry about bats
yeah sorry bomb bats
Volkswagen's are cool
his insistence on people
numbering their podcast
is a little bit on point
for the Germans
it's a little too
oh does he does he does he loves it
he doesn't like it if you don't put a number
TMS has that but like film sack
has always been a little bit weird
and I've stopped yeah and we've stopped
because there's a lot of confusion
because we do the extra bonus shows
and round tables sometimes the numbers are just wrong
often I screw it up so it's just like why we even care
like it just shouldn't matter anyway I know how many
we have because I can go do a file check and go
oh we have 800 whatever episodes
but you know the Germans they like
things orderly really is what it comes down to
yeah uh all right let's take a break when we come back
no we're not doing a break what it's like old days
we're not taking a break at all there's no break there's just this
there's me pushing a button hold on here we go
there's me doing this here's a tangent for him
be careful may cause drowsiness
that's right we are bringing to the to the foray here
uh mr dan uh who is
always here. Dan, Dan, the Tractenberg, man. What the hell's wrong with me?
What? Dan, Dan, the tabletop, man. I've been thinking about, I'm trying to get Tractonburg
to do an interview with me, because we used to talk all the time, but now he's a big high flute and
director man, and he's making... Yeah, good luck with that. Predator movies, so I've got these emails
and it's on my mind. Let's at least try and get it to come to, uh, to an attack. Oh, I'm, I'm
absolutely, he is on this list with a big question mark next to it. We'll see if we can make it happen.
Anyway, Dan, Dan, the tabletop man is here. That's right. Geek Jock himself.
this program. Hey, man. I hope I have a big exclamation point next to my name.
Always. Of course you do. You have more than that. You're on this whole other list of
like producer types of people we want to. Oh, I love it. Yeah. So don't worry. You're a special,
you're a special snowflake in our storm of. Oh, I love it. So I hope, hopefully the,
she's calmed down now. We just got a new puppy and we're trying to crate her. So I had to put her up
in a crate for a little while. Maybe she could take a nap, but she's been howling. And she's a,
she's a chocolate and yellow mix lab and uh only seven weeks old yeah she's a swirl but we still
we've had her for a week now and we still don't have a name for her it's just because our other dog
is winnie and she's a golden retriever so we're trying not to have any names with like the i.e or why yeah
because they'll be confusing might i recommend uh andria rosen call her Andrea rosin
yeah there's a couple of great reasons behind that number one
It would be hilarious at parties.
This is my dog, Andrea Rosen.
Would you like to meet my dog, Andrea Rosen?
Please refer to her by her full name.
Well, anyway, hey, Dan, it's good to have you here, man.
And also happy puppy getting.
I was loving a new puppy enters the life.
Oh, I appreciate it.
Yeah, I have a few names for you.
Just to get your opinion on these names.
Okay, and do it.
Oh, cool.
So I've been wanting something like Moka or even Nala.
I kind of like that name for a female dog.
my wife is she just keeps going back to like dolly i'm like yeah but that's the ie we can't have
like a dolly you know so maybe she also likes puddin for for uh i like puttin is great
yeah puddin yeah very uh harley uh exactly so we thought about harley too which was not really
which is not quite a badass you know chocolate labs are not really badass where you want to think
of like with harley but button is actually a pretty cute one that would be cute but it's so hard
man, it's so hard to figure out
the good names because that's so permanent.
Yeah.
We were really excited about Salem, Massachusetts,
our cat until we realized
how many freaking black cat
salams there are out there.
It is, I think, the most common
name for a black cat. And it's like, well, all right.
Yeah. I like, but you added the
Massachusetts. You gave us... We had the Massachusetts.
We even, if I looked up the zip code,
we even added that too, but I don't know
it off the top of my hand.
Well, that's awesome.
Well, good luck, and it's a girl, right?
Yeah, it's a little girl.
Now, this is why that matters, because if you get a boy dog, they drag their weaners on everything.
And that is the truth.
I've been, I've sat on neighbors' couches where the dogs never pee in the house or anything,
but their back of the couch stinks, and you're like, what the hell's going on to your couch?
Well, the dog drags his little red weiner on it all the time.
So get girl dogs, is what I'm saying.
They're the best.
You know, I had that problem for the longest time, but eventually once I got married, I kind of broke myself of that.
of that little thing because I stopped
I'm dragging my wing around. You stopped doing it? That's good.
Yeah, it's good.
It's really good. You know, it's usually the
second or third year marriage that we stopped doing that.
So it takes a little time.
It takes a little time.
Yeah, but by the time you're established,
you get new furniture anyway.
Well, she just kept spraying water on me
every time I did it. So that just kind of eventually helped.
Yeah, I get it. And I'm glad you've come so far.
Dan, you're here to give us some recommendations
in the board game world, which is always exciting.
What do you got for us this week?
So I got two IP games, which is rare because usual IP games aren't that great,
but I do have two from two of the best trilogies out there that you have.
So can you figure out which one thing?
Well, I've already looked.
Oh, true.
I mean, neither of these are still trilogies.
Oh, that's true.
That's fair.
How about, okay, I'll just go with the easy, low-hanging fruit because I haven't looked.
Lord of the Rings.
That is one of the.
Well, throw up with that one, and then I'll let you guess the second one.
So the first one is Lord of the Rings fate of the Fellowship.
This is a new kind of hotness right around Gen Con.
Now, this is basically Lord of the Rings pandemic.
So you're basically trying to get the ring to Mount Doom and you're controlling different characters, obviously, as you're going.
And it has that same familiar feel.
So this is, both of these are kind of, I want to call them like Scott Bryan games because they're both kind of, you know, where they do have a little complexity.
This one being co-op, you can have somebody kind of running the game.
So, Scott, you don't even really need to listen to rules or read rules.
You can just have Brian run the game.
Yeah, I can do my usual, let's just play.
And Brian will say, okay, cool, here are the rules as we go.
Here are the rules.
Exactly.
You can be glossy, you glass-eyed, yawning while we're explaining the rules.
It doesn't matter.
We can just tell you, all right, pick a card and go and use your couple of cards and use your different characters.
But it also comes to a really cool kind of its own little dice tower that it comes with,
which is really cool, kind of the way it's putting together.
it's basically like the eye of sauron and the tower that you're using as a kind of a little dice tower so a lot of fun this one that's cool has a very familiar feel it man boy does it look great on the table yeah i like the uh that dice tower that thing is so cool yeah there's like one of those like single sheet press board um
well flat pack just a flat pack dice tower that assembles into an eye of saron dice tower and i like how the dice come out there it is
No, I'm sure. And the dice tower, like the dice come out like in a little stack or like a row so you can...
Yeah, well, and you're not really rolling that many generally.
It is hard because a lot of times the dice, they just kind of fly wherever the hell they want a lot of times anyway.
But being that it's a little bit lighter of one, no, you're not like a full wood one.
I have like a really nice wood dice hour that it just throws them out and depending on if you're using the bottom to it or not, they may just throw fine.
Yeah.
Look at that, though. That layout there? That's super nice, man.
It is.
That map is pretty intense.
I can tell you that.
It is.
And you know,
it's another one where I like to say this a lot,
where once you speak the language of the game,
it just makes everything just kind of come and focus.
So like when you a lot of times when you have symbols and a lot of terminology and stuff,
when you don't know what's going on,
it's just so overwhelming.
But once you kind of get the terms and realize what's going on and what the different areas are
and what you're trying to do,
it's like,
oh,
yeah,
piece of cake.
Yeah.
There's still some complexity in depth to it.
But it's not as overwhelming as it.
as it may look on there as well.
So you said IP games sometimes are tricky,
and it reminds me of that being true in video games sometimes
when you base something on IP,
especially a popular IP,
the games often just can't live up to it once in a while.
They exceed your expectations, and that's great,
but the percentage of those that do that,
maybe it's better than ever,
but the percentage of those that do that are rare.
Is that the same in the tabletop world where these are real hit and miss?
I think you're right to because nowadays,
I think they're handled with a little bit more reverence.
You know, back in the day, people just wanted to get a license and just slapped it on any old game and they were usually crap.
And that was the same with board games.
And don't get me wrong, you still have some crap IP board games.
But nowadays, people are really doing a good job with their IPs.
That also depends on the company and whether it's kind of a big sprawling games.
There's a few companies that put, you know, some of the Cimon games that have, the cool mini or not, those CIMON games that have a lot of minis and a lot of cards and a lot of things, they're just kind of okay.
You know, they're just bloat a lot of times.
But depending on the company, like this one is really good.
But then again, you know what you're getting because it's pandemic.
I will strongly defend, though, after playing, we did Marvel Board Game Day again at the end of last month.
And we did Marvel United Galactus versus the Fantastic Four.
And you're playing against all of Galactus's heralds.
So Silver Surfer, Nova, Terrax, et cetera, et cetera, and Galactus himself.
And that was, it felt so different from any other Marvel United game that we had played.
So they're still injecting, you know, with these extra little expansions and things,
they really are expanding some extra life into the game.
That's awesome.
And those are, oh, I'm sorry, Brian.
I was going to say they've done really good job with those Marvel games.
You know, those are ones.
And there's actually the DC United as well.
Like they've done such a good job with those that they, that's what I said,
they put in some reverence into some of those where, uh,
You know, when they're trying to get things.
You know, like SteamForge has got another Eldon Ring game out on a game found with an expansion of it.
And those games, you kind of like flip a coin.
You know, if you like a lot of those things, some of those would be good.
But Seamont seems to put a lot more, you know, a lot more development behind some of those, you know, the bigger IPs.
They do, yeah.
I love the art in this thing.
Really into it.
This is cool.
Yeah, and it's a little bit different of the take on that art, too, which is what I kind of like.
It's not just it's not lifting from the film
It's more bookish
Some of these designs
And I'm all for that
I don't need to
I don't need Peter Jackson's vision
In everything they spin out from it
Right
Sometimes that's a little much
And it's like no no keep it in the movies
Give me more of the book perspective or whatever
That is called Lord of the Rings
Fate of the Fellowship
Now let me see if I can guess on this second one here
It's another trilogy you say
Yep
But not strictly one
Maybe expanded past it
but known as a trilogy.
I'll say,
I actually can't think of anything good.
So I'm going to say,
back to the future,
the game, the board game.
Actually,
since it's so many movies now
that I always think of this,
you know,
as old guys,
we think of it in their trilogies.
You know,
this is a Star Wars game.
So obviously there's nine movies,
so it's not really a trilogy,
but it's a Star Wars game.
I'm sorry,
Scott,
I kind of,
I kind of shot,
you know,
I kind of overshot it with the trilogy part.
I mean,
but whenever you see those memes of like the best trilogy,
of all time. You always have these are in, you know,
those are in there as far as how they're listed.
Anyway, this is another interesting one
because this is kind of a one-on-one. They listed
at two-to-four players. This is really a two-player game.
But it's more of a war game, but it
does not feel like a war game. Even though
this is Star Wars Battle of Hoth,
another one that was a big hotness
at Gen Con.
And it's just a, it takes the
Memoir 44
system. Wow, can you hear the poor
puppy? Can you hear it? Just barely.
It's cute. It's cute. I like it.
I definitely hear the chocolate more than the yellow.
So Memoir 44 was a game that Days Warner put out about about 20 years ago,
and it took wargaming and made it so much more approachable because it's card-based.
Like, it's still dudes on a map, and you know, you still have that war game feel.
But the way you do your actions is not just like, all right, well, I have a certain amount of movements here,
where I'm just going to move over here, and now it's your turn.
No, this takes card-based movement where you can only do what you have.
have in your hand and you have a certain amount of you know your deck has a certain amount of
orders and where you can you know certain parts of the map that you can activate people now that's
what you're looking at here in star wars battle of hoth where it's basically a one-on-one battle you know
a war game for obviously the battle but depending on what cards you have that's what units you can
battle and depending on how close you are and which units it is that's kind of be like what hits
and what doesn't hit or and of the extent and there's also leader cards you can throw in there it just
distills war gaming down to kind of what, you know, I love gaming. I don't know if I can sit
there for four, I mean, I can for four to six hours, but four to six hours of a war game or even
in a whole weekend of a war game just gets to be a lot. This, you can play this in like 30 minutes.
Oh, I like 30 minute games. And there's a bunch of different scenarios that are in there that,
in the box, which go from kind of like your easier ones introductory to really kind of complex
scenarios with a lot more rules, which you're kind of building up to that. So this definitely
has a lot much lighter weight
and again when this is the let's just play
game where you can just kind of shuffle up the cards
put two armies out on the board and then
you just be like Brian can tell you hey look at
these cards this is what they mean this is
what they're on the card now go
I'm a massive fan
it almost makes you want to buy it just for these
add-ats these are awesome
figures oh yeah but I love
how they're the
what's the word I'm looking for
the the size of the
soldiers as compared to the ad ads.
Man, they sure got some
super soldiers now out there. They'd write
it like a horse, basically, is what they would do
with this. Proportion, that's what I was
looking for. Yeah, this looks
awesome, and you say you can have a skirmish in
30 minutes, man, why wouldn't you want to play this?
This is great. Oh, it is so easy to play.
Again, if you like things like
this, or even if you don't like the Star Wars
theme, Memoir
44, and there's been other games that have
come out that have kind of used this system,
but putting this on Star Wars is just
genius by Days of Wonder and Asma Day, because it's just kind of going to bring in all
those fans. And, you know, it's not cheap. I think this one was probably about $100 or $125 at
Gen Con. But, I mean, you got a lot of game in there. And I think you can get, you can probably
get it for a lot, a lot cheaper than that, you know, depending on where you go, you know, where
you go to find your games. But yeah, this is a really excellent one for the, especially for the time
investment. Is it, before we go, is this the kind of thing? We always say you can get him
at Gen Con.
They sell this stuff at Gen Con?
I always thought it was just presentation.
Yeah, I thought it was too.
Oh, no.
So you got a vendor hall at Gen Con that's giant-prican enormous.
That makes sense.
I don't know.
I didn't think about that.
That makes sense.
Oh, yeah.
So you've got gaming space.
You've got RPG space in different hotels.
And then you've got a big old vendor hall where you're demoing games and then you
use a lot of times you'll buy them.
Or maybe there are some games that haven't released yet that you can just demo and then
maybe go right to their Kickstarter or be alerted later.
But it's all about.
buying games there are just wall to wall you can just spend way too much money every
year in my two try and buy list my buy list is always like six seven hundred dollars you
know for for the top 11 to to buy it's just amazing how much stuff and then the uh what we call
the running of the bulls you probably see some of these videos uh where like 10 o'clock on thursday
all the people that are out of hall and then they open the doors and it is just insane we called
the running of the bulls we're just running for the booth where you just sell out so quick
Does it look like Black Friday Walmart when they...
Absolutely.
And it's been a lot better because they are hardcore now.
They're like, if I see anybody pushing, we'll just revoke your badge.
So, I mean, there is a little bit, but it's not quite as what it was in a wild west of 10 years ago.
One year, I can't find a video, but one year I actually, you know, having a press pass, the first, however many press people can get in there an hour early and you can kind of get a little bit of interviews and see some demos.
And then I would always park myself, like a certain amount away from the entrance.
and just take a video of people coming in
and it is insane
watching people come in there. I imagine.
The sea of humans.
They're more people than chits in that place.
And it's better at that time too because they generally
don't smell yet because it's the first day
of the con. So it's not like a wave
you. You do that on like Sunday
there's just a wave of B.O. coming
your way. Oh yeah. By Sunday they're like
okay can everyone, even
surrounding states like people next
to Indiana are going, what is that? What is that?
What does that smell?
It's really bad.
Well, anyway, these are fantastic choices.
The Lord of the Rings' fate of the fellowship and Star Wars Battle of Hoth.
And Brian will have these at QuickTMS.L.I as well.
Indeed.
So you guys can get linked right off to it and grab them.
As if we don't have enough cool stuff to buy in this world, we have more right here today.
No kidding.
And a lot of times you get them cheaper now, you know, when you go to GenCon, the prices are a little higher just because it's kind of like paying that premium because they're shipping them there already.
You're paying a little bit of a premium to get them first before.
or anybody else. And then later, you can usually get them a little bit cheaper.
Or be at your FLGS. You're from the local game store or from the, a lot of times from
the website themselves where you want to, you always want to support the, you know, you want to
support local, but you want to support the companies as well. So do one of those ways.
I mean, I know we always want to go to the retailers, like, you know, the good retailers out
there. But I know a lot of great publishers that, you know, this time, these days, the margins
are so small, you just want to support them in any way. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So support
indie business stuff regardless of where you find it all right everybody dan dan the tabletop man dude
have a fantastic time we'll see you next time for another one of these and in the meantime i hope
that puppy stops peeing on things that shouldn't and finds a name all right good stuff good stuff
with dan as always i love it i love it and he you know more than uh more than any of our other
guests he's the one who's responsible for me spending the most money yeah i was going to say i'll buy a book
here and there for Amy's recommendations
and things like that but
that I'll buy stuff that I hear Bill talk
about but my gosh you know it's like
oh yeah check out this new game great
just bought it thanks Dan
Dan's the guy that's what you get
all right guys time for some quick news
or some emails rather
oh that's the sound of emails let's see what we got in here
we got
on country music
this is from lawnmower
is their name no that's his that's his
his final two words
from his email. He doesn't say what his
I copied this and didn't notice where the name is.
I guess there's no name. Anyway, he says,
Hey, Scoot and Boot. On the other day, Brian was talking
about older country music, the good kind.
He says, I'm not a fan of
whatever is supposed to be country music today either.
Then he says, and mentioned
Tammy Wynette and George Jones.
We lived around the corner from their house
on the south side of Lakeland, Florida.
It's a huge freaking mansion,
as one would expect. There are stories
from the locals that George would regularly get
picked up by the local sheriff's office while drunk
on his quote unquote lawnmower
or dot dot dot lawnmower.
Love the show. So that's
the third of the first
season of that.
Oh, the Mike Judge thing.
Yeah.
The, yeah, whatever that
YouTube series is called.
Life on the tour bus?
Tales from the tour bus. That's it.
From Mike Judge.
And it is, he's not wrong about those stories.
it's insane what George Jones was up to
and the things that happened there
there were fires started by people nobody
knows some people think Tammy Wynette started
some of the fires
or a funny little side note
she went on to play Hank Hill's mother
in King of the Hill in its first run
so anytime Hank's mom would be on screen
it was Tammy Wynette
and that's awesome great episode though
George Jones a weird looking mother effort
that guy was a weird, had a weird face
a weird face and just
you know perfect
for country music because
he lived all those things that he wrote songs
about. Yeah. And I didn't
realize, they talked a bunch about how Elvis
Costello just worshipped him and just loved
him. Yeah. He's done a few
covers. I think
Good Year for the Roses, I think is
George Jones. Yeah. I think so.
Yeah. It's really, really good episode of that
if you guys haven't seen it yet.
Captain Ed about
window seats on planes.
Captain Ed says, you recently were talking
on the show about how airlines were billing
non-windowed seats as windowed.
The worst flight I ever took happened back in the 1990s.
I was flying home from a business trip since I tend to get air-sick on flights.
I got a window seat.
Oh, I like where this is going.
I didn't preview this one, so I don't know where it goes.
Unfortunately, this window seat was A in the last row of the plane, that's the worst, all the way back in the tail,
and B, was right next to the engine, and there was no window.
I hate that seat.
Hate it.
Yeah.
Also, you forgot to mention, closest to the toilet, so you get that smell every time.
somebody opens the door. Yeah. So you get the engine going right behind your head. It's hot there
because of that. No reclining. No reclining. Exactly. And like Brian said, the shitter's right there.
He says on top of that, the plane flew through a storm. So the tail of the plane went up and down,
up and down the whole time on my way home. He says, I'm very proud to say, I did not break my streak.
But it was a very close thing. My girlfriend at the time said I was very, very green when I got off
that plane.
I, so when I was doing the newspaper sales software, all those trips in the 90s and early 2000s,
and I was doing those, you know, having to fly out and do this, visit this state and then visit
this newspaper and this, all that, when I'd finish the newspaper early, because I'd always
booked the return flight for fairly late in the day back to Denver, but sometimes and often
I would finish at the newspaper a few hours early.
And so I would race to the airport and then say,
hey, can you put me on standby for the next flight to Denver?
And they said, let me look.
Let's see, we're Denver.
This is DIA, right?
Yep.
We're going to be PTSD with this.
I hate this process so much.
And they said, we can get you on this flight, but you're going to be,
and this was when I was doing nothing but United,
you're going to be in the very last row in a window in a middle seat.
Are you all right with that?
I'm like, yeah, okay.
And you can just, my friend Cliff had a joke about this where basically what they were doing is middle seat, right?
Closest to the toilet?
No declining seat?
Is that what you're looking for?
The only smoking section left in the,
entire FAA.
Exactly.
So far back that you may not get a drink from the drink cart.
Okay, you're all set up.
All they'll have left is margarita mix and warm soda.
Exactly.
What a nightmare, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
I hate that stuff.
But I'm glad the Captain Ed made it through there.
No kidding.
I'm impressed.
Yeah, that seems like the absolute worst situation.
And the fact that you came out of it clean on the other side is,
is damn impressive.
I feel like I'd break my streak that day on that point.
All right, let's get out of here.
Chicken or fish.
Neither.
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So there was a change.
We didn't do the Monday show yesterday kind of last minute.
I didn't know this, but while we were doing the show,
Carter was kind of bedridden.
She was sick yesterday, and I didn't know.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it's got caught something at the zoo or with, I don't know where.
She went to a fundraiser.
Did she touch the livestock?
Does she have Q fever?
I know, right?
That's what I said.
I said, are you worried it's not like some kind of, like the red panda, you know?
Right.
I don't know.
You get a turning red disease?
Yeah, you got something weird going on.
Anyway, so we pushed to today, but I'm going to go ahead and say I'm not so sure.
because she looked like trash this morning.
I'm not sure it's going to happen.
So just keep an eye on the schedule.
If it changes, it changes.
If not, right now it's set for today at one.
If it changes, I'll let people know.
Cool.
But just so you know, that's what happened there.
And I'm going to assume, and it's totally fine,
that we're not doing an Apple live stream watch along.
Oh, shit.
We were going to do that.
We were talking about it.
Do you still want to do it?
I'm good for doing it.
I'm totally up for doing it.
What time is that hit?
It's going to start in an hour, yeah.
So I'm coming. We're coming back for a live thing, guys. We're doing it. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Glad you reminded me. I completely forgot. Yeah. My pleasure. Absolutely. So watch for that today. 11 p.m. or 11 a.m. We will co-stream that. Talk about it. Talk over it. You know, all the fun stuff.
laugh every time they say aluminum.
Yeah, aluminum and product.
Yeah, does it, do they still, someone there still says aluminum now that what's his name left, right?
Yeah, I don't think it's Johnny Ive anymore, but somebody still has to say it.
Yeah.
And will we get, is it Phil, uh, running around doing crazy parkour?
No, that's Phil Schiller's not him.
It's Keith.
Yeah.
Keith.
Is it Keith?
I don't think it's Keith.
And so much more, that guy.
Yeah, that guy.
I have it right here.
Where is it?
And so much more.
Where is it?
I thought I had it here.
Federigi.
And so much more.
Ken, not Keith.
Ken Federigi, yes.
And so much more.
Yeah, we're going to see him doing parkour.
It's going to be some goofy, like, right.
What did he do last time it was like running like the flash through the campus or something?
Yeah, I hated it.
It was annoying.
It's always these dumb, like, interstitial bits.
You know, we laugh at them.
because they're so bad.
Yeah,
and then you know what?
Keep doing it.
I'm not saying stuff.
Craig.
Craig.
Craig,
not Ken.
Craig.
Thank you,
Andy Cass.
He's probably the heir apparent when,
what's his name,
retires.
So we'll probably have to get more used to seeing him jump on things.
I know,
I can tell you that there's two things I know about Craig Federigi.
He wears his pants too high.
Yeah.
And he needs a haircut.
And that's it.
That's all I'm,
that's all I would say.
He's in shape.
He's a good looking dude.
Otherwise,
very charismatic.
He understands the product.
Just a little.
little off the sides.
Yeah.
And those pants just park the pants down about four inches from where they are.
Exactly.
All right?
Can't wear them up to the nipples.
Apparently, by the way, TRPW apparently has a well-actually coming about aluminum.
Oh, excellent.
I can't wait for that.
That'll be on Friday.
Watch for it, guys.
A little bit of news about Thursday.
I'm not sure Wendy will be here because she may be on a plane.
She's coming here for all this stuff going on with my mom and John and everything.
She's going to be here for a few days.
So we don't know yet.
If she's not here, we'll do another call now.
We really enjoy that last time.
So we'll do that again.
But if she's here, she's here.
I'll let you guys know.
I just don't know yet.
There's a lot going on in my extended life right now.
It's a little insane.
Of course there is.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's probably why I have this dumb headache that won't leave.
All right, let's get out of here.
Brian, let's do a song.
We got a song to play.
Yeah, let's go with some Americana, some just straight up rock and roll.
This guy's a guy named Dave Howes.
He's all set to perform across North America with the bouncing souls in select markets.
He's also going to be UK-EU headline and festival performances announced for the fall.
So he's all over the place.
But for right now, this is part of a solo project.
Dave Howes leaves an unwanted relationship in the rearview mirror on his brand new single.
You're out of my hair.
Here's Dave Howes.
Sorry, here we go again.
To you sing called, I thought we were friends.
You'll get the amateur crowd to hang on everywhere.
You could have this whole world in your hands.
Jam yourself into your garage, she can.
They warned me once
And I was fooled
And I've heard
You're out of my hair
I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah
You're out of my hair
And I'm pretending I don't care
You're out of my hair
And I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah
You're out of my hair
And I'm pretending I don't care
I need the first bridge you left behind
You scorched a few before, now it's my time
Is it lonesome, no one you get, less than you get
Maybe I should ride this whole thing down in pen
I know I like to play some way back when
It's not so much I'll forget, I'll just forget
But now you're out of my head
And I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah
You're out of my hair
And I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah
You're out of my head
And I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah
You're out of my hair
And I'm pretending
I don't care
Drink your
poison
Wait for me to die
Dreaming
up your schemes to keep your little eye in life I did all I could but you knew I would
eventually just get tired the milk expired tried to bear but I ain't breaking my back
for your bullshit fools again you're out of my hair and I'm pretending I don't care
And I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah, you're out of my hair
And I'm pretending I don't care
Yeah, you're out of my hair
And I'm pretending I don't care
I don't care
I'm pretending I don't care
I don't care
I don't care
I'm pretending I don't care
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