The Morning Stream - TMS 2887: Bacterial Slurry
Episode Date: September 16, 2025Calc Dooku. Square Day. I don't like Bacterial Slurreeeeeeeee! Fart Blood On A White Wall. Divatude. Sundance Sundown. Word To Your Mother. Doku Doku Panic. Photo Blue is a Magical Thing. Rundle Fly. ...Respool Me by Ed Sheeran. Crawl space man. You Have To Cut The Car In Half. Concentrated dark matter turd. Kids Love Floor Chocolate with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Square Day.
I don't like bacterial slurry.
Fart blood on a white wall.
Dividu. Sundance, sundown.
Word to your mother.
Doku, doku, panic.
Photo blue is a magical thing.
Rundlefly.
Respool me by Ed Shearin.
Crawl Space Man.
There you go.
You have to cut the car in half.
Concentrated dark matter turd.
Kids love floor chocolate with Bill and more on this episode of the morning stream.
You know, I'm not going to piss in another man's sandbox.
Fair enough.
I think people are perverts.
The morning stream. You are listening to Adel DeZem.
morning stream for Tuesday, September 16th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson, and that's Brian Nibbitt.
Hello, and today is a bunch of squares. Three squared is nine, four squared is 16, five squared
is 25, so three, four, five squared. We got a good, weird number today, and I love them. Yes, yes.
Had a bunch of people reach out. In fact, I'm noticing every time there's a weird number possibility,
get like 20 messages. Yeah. Telling us, hey, did you guys know that if you divide this and put it over
that and then take it to the third level then suddenly the date means monkeys are smarter than us or
whatever because we all you know we're drawn to that sort of thing we like seeing those weird like
oh here's a weird thing that'll never happen again how cool is that yeah we like our patterns man
we do uh anyway we're here we got a show to do we got all kinds of stuff going on we're just
talking about the i'm not going to call it untimely the timely death of robert redford a legend
yes yes and my mom's biggest like whatever crush you all have for for current
day actors or actresses
take that times it by 10
that's what my mom had for Robert Redford
who is just older
than her by a couple years as all
and he died
at the age of 89 up there in Sundance, Utah
and that's the end of that.
And my mom was sad.
I talked to her. Yeah. I said, hey, you hear
about Robert Redford? She goes, oh, I know.
Get me more breakfast.
She's kind of in a mood
to eat a lot right now because she's
I don't know why.
She's just hungry.
Maybe she's building up some strength.
Maybe we move her today to a facilitai.
We got John talked into it because after it took four,
I think it was four grown men trying to help him walk.
Because remember, he's recovering from this brain bleed thing.
And realizing that it will take four men to move him anywhere,
he went, yeah, I guess it's time.
We probably.
Yeah, good.
Wow.
Good.
Yeah.
And Wendy was like, Wendy was like sweating this.
like, how am I going to convince him?
It's been impossible up to this point,
but this moment of truth was like
him trying to do anything and he can't.
And he went, I don't know what else to do.
We're like, yeah, dude.
So she's moving in there today
and it'll all be good.
That's going to be so much better for her.
And, you know, she'll always have a phone nearby
in case something goes wrong.
Yeah, maybe the charger could be right here.
Yeah.
I guess that place will have a phone, phone, but, you know.
Yeah. It's a really nice place. It's like five minutes from her. So all her friends and their neighbors and people who love her, they can all come out there. It's still a bit of a drive for us. But we know she's in good hands and we don't have to worry about, you know, months of what's going on. So it's all good. It's expensive, though. Yeah. You got to worry about though. I mean, that's the, you know, it's the tradeoff. The facilities, I hear from teen all the time about when she goes and checks out a facility. It's like, well, it's an inexpensive one. And here's why.
Yeah, you give what you pay for.
Yeah.
Like, I don't want to do one that's like, hey, this is a couple grand less,
but everything smells like a peed on mattress.
Have fun.
Exactly.
And they frequently have cases where the women, you know, the residents.
I'm thinking about an elderly woman who this happened to at one of the facilities Tina had to investigate.
Went out a door that locked behind her and nobody saw her do it.
Nobody saw the, you know, monitors, the cameras, whatever.
And she nearly froze to death outside.
because it was winter, she went outside,
the door locked behind her,
and she couldn't get back in.
Damn, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
That's something I'd do.
When I'm old, I mean, not now.
When I'm in my 90s.
I do that now.
Yeah, in my 90s, I fully plan on, like,
locking doors behind me and tripping on shit and dropping stuff.
It's going to be great.
Brian, yesterday, it's so much fun with your puzzles.
Can we have another one?
Can we do another one?
You can have another one.
And I decided, rather than, you know,
tell you oh here's another one where we just kicked blood and knocked it out of the park um i'm
going to tell you about the one that nearly killed us the dreaded puzzle seven this is the one that
um most of our other puzzles we did in like 30 minutes and 25 minutes and 40 minutes and that sort of
thing this is the one that took us 84 minutes i think is is what it came out to 84 minutes to complete
and here's before we start putting stuff on screen here's the here's the setup all right
um we're given uh four sheets of of of of paper of the puzzle and um the last one is just
kind of a demo thing i'll ignore that but but each of the three sheets has either four or six
puzzles up there's a total of 14 puzzles okay stretched across these and these are all of your
classic um sidoku sudoku um there's variations that are called uh that use
loops or walls.
And Sudoku uses numbers, right?
It's a grid where you've got to put the numbers in.
They always have to satisfy
a criteria of like, all right,
no more than one
version of each number, one copy of each
number in each row, column, or
square.
Does this category have a name, like this
kind of puzzle? No. I mean,
people, I call them just pencil puzzles
because these are kind of the thing, you know,
you just grab a pencil, you start filling it
out kind of thing. Right.
But, for example, there's a, there's a version called Calcdoku, and I think that's going to be the, um, the first screenshot. Count Duku is what it's called. Calc. Calc sounds like, uh, big math on that one. Right. So if you want to show the, the screenshot. Sure. Let's see. Calcdoku is like, um, there it is right there. It's like Sudoku. Same, same requirements, right? One, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. And this right, the one we're showing right now is an easy one. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um
example, the numbers have to add or subtract or multiply to the numbers you see in the box.
So, you know, that top box, those three numbers have to add up to eight. And so if you know,
well, all right, we're working with one, two, three, four, we know it's got to be four, three, one.
There's no other way to get.
Oh, I see. So the total of eight, these numbers have to add up two eight because that's the
plus. If it's the two and the divide by over here, that means.
whatever's in these two stacked on the right they have to divide by two divide no it'll divide
two oh divide into two whatever the answer is is two but so you find out what the numbers have to
divide into two I get it exactly yeah wow and so we had one of those we had something called
futoshiki which is the next screenshot with a little greater than less than symbols I think
futu shuki is that I say it again putoshiki so this is same kind of thing Sudoku
one two three four no number no common numbers but whatever is in a square a square with a greater
than symbol has to be bigger a bigger number than the one and that's next to it where there's a
symbol so in that second row where you've got greater than greater than less than it's got to be
you know four three one two or i think that's the only way that one can work um four three or
three two one four is possible on that one but you've got to figure that out
Oh, wild, dude.
Okay.
Each of these 14 puzzles, and you can start pulling them up, just throwing them up there
willy-nilly.
Each of these 14 puzzles had to be completed.
But here's the kicker.
For the 14 puzzles, there were seven solutions.
So that kelkdoku that I showed you.
Yeah.
See?
That calcdoku, those numbers would be in the same place as one of the ones.
of the other pencil puzzles.
So the one, two, three, four arrangement would also work on another puzzle.
Oh my gosh.
Is this for just the Einstein's in the world?
Or who's doing these?
It is.
And because of that, they give you far fewer numbers than you need to complete the puzzle.
The ones we're showing right now, these are examples I found online where you can solve
this puzzle just with the numbers, just with the information that's given.
But with all these other ones, you don't have.
enough information to solve these puzzles. For example, the Sudoku that they gave us was really literally just, I'll just show it here. It was four empty squares where we had to basically fill out the numbers. If there's no requirements, like it can be, all right, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, but we had to figure out what other puzzle those numbers would work in. Right. That's, that's wild. Yes. So we had, well, see, here's the thing.
Red Fraggle's like, can you send me these? I could, but I have to, there's a lot of erasing that I have to do. I mean, look, these are wall puzzles. So it's like, oh, it's all scratched in. It's all scratched in and stuff. So, um, yeah, that's why I wish they would upload these separately because I think you would get a kick out of them. But, um, I wonder if there's a way to some software to let's just scan it and ignore all pencil work. I don't know if there is. I know. It would be, I mean, it would just basically be setting, figuring out where the thresholds.
is to capture black, but not 90% black or something.
It's never great when you have to do it that way.
Never great. Exactly. Oh, if it was blue, if it was blue though, photo blue, oh, that'd be good.
Photo blue would be perfect if we did. Right. Yeah, repro blue, non-repro blue. Back in the day
when Brian and I were doing like, you know, typography and shit, it was like the magical thing to have photo blue on stuff because you could just block it out entirely.
It was great. It's why, and those of you, you know, who unfamiliar with that, it's why when you look at comic book
art original comic book art you see a ton of blue lines all over the place
that the artist used to like sketch out muscles and stuff and instead of having to
erase them it just doesn't get just ignores them yeah so yeah it was great we used to
use that all the time for all sorts of things but it's essentially the not technology but
it's the essence behind blue screen and green screen and that sort of thing it's just all
about just getting rid of stuff you don't want to see exactly exactly so anyway
So this was the one that killed us, and we had to basically figure out, we had to complete the puzzles.
Here's where we failed.
Here's what we did wrong.
We focused on that very first calc doku puzzle.
And instead of saying, oh, well, we know that one of these other three puzzles on this page has the same pattern of numbers, let's try and solve all four of these simultaneously with what we can do.
And then we'll be able to say, oh, this three is here.
there's a two in the same place there.
So these two other puzzles must be the parallels, must have the matching numbers.
Oh, okay.
What we did incorrectly was we focused on the very first puzzle and tried to fully solve that.
And when we couldn't, didn't have enough information, we're like, well, let's plug in a one here and see if that works all the way across.
Oh, it does.
You know, and then let's move on to the second page.
Oh, does this work?
So if we would have done it, and once we figured that out, we'd already.
already spent 20 minutes on the first sheet of puzzles.
And if we would have figured that out or determined that that was the way to solve the other
pages, we would have zipped through this, I call it this puzzle, but I looked up Calcducu.
Oh, there you go.
And it gave me this where he looks like he's doing math in his head.
it's amazing that somebody has already come up with somebody has come up with calcut duke yeah
well done internet you did it again you took a thing that we were just talking about and you
already made it amazing so anyway so that's um that's the the the nightmare that we had to deal with
now if you want if you want to know if you want to look online for examples of all the puzzles
we did um get ready to make a list i'm going to read them off right now and you can pause
and find all these online.
I was able to find almost all of them
while I was taking screenshots
and I didn't look for the other ones,
but Sudoku,
Kalkdoku,
Futo Shiki,
skyscrapers,
those are your number ones.
Your wall ones are canal view,
Lits, Tapa,
cross the streams,
Nurikabe, and Yin Yang,
and then your loops
where you have to draw one continuous line
through a whole crap ton of squares.
Yeah.
Country Road.
mid-loop, Masu, M-A-S-Y-U, and Yajalin, Y-A-J-I-L-I-N.
They're all fun, and I'm almost over the PTSD of looking at these again to where I'd love to start,
you know, do a couple more of these now, but.
This is like going, it sounds like a dim sum place and you just read the menu to me.
Like I just ordered, you know, KT-Data just ordered for us for the table.
Oh, that's funny.
So anyway, if you want to try those, they're, they're, they're, they are, they are, they are, they are
fun but man it's uh oh you know it's fun i just did so i just did a test i did a
trans i did a transcription of what you said in real time yeah and then and then i asked
a i to make me a simple list and it did it so i've got the list all ready to go yeah get out
tell me if any of this i'll paste it in the chat tell me if any of this looks yeah because some of
it may be wrong i don't know if they heard it right or you know yeah yeah yeah shit can happen but
that was really uh well done it's kind of impressive
here you go boop you're putting in our discord
chat or in the chat chat oh discord because
it won't work the main chat won't take it
for some reason oh it's too much that's why
oh I'll put it in discord
it's uh
this is ruining the fun of how fast it
it was
because now it's taking me forever thank you
all right here you go
let's see
Sudoku calcdoku
Futo shiki skyscrapers
yeah I mean calcdoku is one
Foto Shiki is one so
Canal View Lits with
It should be with an S.
But other than that, Nurikabe, Yin Yang, Country Road, Midloup, Masu, Yajelan.
Wow.
Did pretty good, right?
Not bad.
Or transcription.
Yeah, it was a little of both.
The transcription is non-AI, but the conversion is AI.
Anyway, AI is good at some stuff.
Yes.
Well, there you go.
And that just burned down a rainforest.
That's right.
Entire rainforest is now without water because we had that list.
And those ants are dead, no cancer fix for us. Oh, well.
Listen to film sack.
Real quick, we got a call from Dr. Jerry Tolbert, who likes to call in, be our friendly neighborhood doctor, and correct us, fix us on in certain issues, whatever.
Tell us what we're doing right or wrong when it comes to medical terminology.
And he's got one for us today.
And this isn't just for one.
This is for a series of episodes.
They've been piling up.
Here it is.
Good morning, gents, your friendly neighborhood family doc swinging by to respond to some recent pages, specifically from,
the 10 September pre-show and the 11 September Friday show. On 10 September, you were wondering if
RSV is a bigger issue now, since there is more talk about it. The truth is that within the last
couple of years, we got our first really effective vaccine. So, RSV has been an issue causing
upper and lower respiratory infections for young and old alike for a long time. But since we now have
a safe and effective vaccine, we can prevent some of the more heinous complications. So especially for
folks over 65, if the pharmacy offers the vaccine, it's definitely a good idea. Go ahead and get it.
Scott, you also mentioned the cold air helping with symptoms. And I'm going to bet that that advice was
actually for a virus called para-influenza, sometimes called croup. The cold air causes the swollen
tissues to shrink somewhat and improves air movement so you can breathe better. And yeah, it's still
advice that we give today. Also for the 10th, Brian's Hungarian grandmother mentioned staying in wet clothes
causing bladder infection. And well, she may have heard that from a medical professional because
it has some truth to it, but it's usually more true for people with short, not narrow, erythras.
Since the moisture allows a bacterial slurry to form that can get to the bladder more easily
and cause contamination and infection. Most men are probably safe.
But why take the chance?
Quick note here.
Yeah.
Bacterial slurry. I don't ever need to hear that ever again in my entire life that term. I played base for bacterial slurry back in the year.
That is so gross. All right. Anyway, continuing. Change out of wet clothes if you can. And finally on the 11th, you both asked about vaccines. And though I know I answered you on Discord, for everyone listening, this season for respiratory illness is upon us. And especially with kids back in school and more people spending time indoors, we are all spreading our germs around.
So I definitely recommend everyone that's able and willing go get their influenza and COVID vaccines.
No better time than the present.
And if you need anything else, don't hesitate to page me.
Yeah, the only issue I've got, the only thing you didn't really address is what we're waiting for some meeting of the minds at the CDC to determine whether COVID is going to for sure require a prescription or not outside of certain classifications or whatever.
And I don't know what the answer to that is yet.
He may not either, but that was annoying.
although I don't you know what if I'd have walked away from there with five shots yeah excuse me that
would have been total of six shots because one of them was doubled okay that would I mean I already
wrecked myself I wasn't gonna I'm kind of glad I can do COVID separate you know what I mean
yeah we we're looking at it so um governor polis here um I you know I love governor police he's
made some kind of dumb decisions but he also uh is is really good in a lot of places but
Basically, he just said, yeah, no, no prescription needed.
Come get your COVID.
You want COVID test or vaccine?
Come get your COVID vaccine.
We're not, we're not following the CDC's requirements for prescriptions or things like
that, which worried, Tina, because she, she, even with her cancer or post cancer, having
cancer in her history, she still wouldn't have qualified to get a COVID shot.
It's so dumb.
It is so dumb.
I mean, it is nice that the doctors can override it and just prescribe it.
But this is what's so funny.
We're there and they're going, yeah, we don't know what they're going to do with that.
Anyway, here's flu A, 15 other things, and also 40 bucks to spend at the store because you came in.
We got free all of that.
And then here's a $40 gift certificate to just buy other stuff in this store that's part of this pharmacy.
It was like, okay, well, on the one hand, you don't want me to do a thing.
It's not them, but there's this weird cloud over that because it's literally COVID is nothing but a political football at this point.
Yeah.
But I flew a freaking, because Farras Fee, give me that pneumonia shot.
Like they don't, it's so stupid.
It is stupid.
It's totally stupid.
It makes me want to fart blood onto a white wall.
All right.
Oh, oh.
I took it too far.
It took it too far.
You might be able to sell that as a bankruptcy or something.
Well, let's see.
They'll just wipe it off like they didn't threaten that cool.
that really cool and they just did in London and it got all scraped off you bastards
yeah yeah I know it was a little incendiary but it was nice
because he's good we have one in Park City they got
somebody put a protective glass thing on it and it got shattered yeah oh really
yeah but it's still there it's still protected but it's got this like
yeah yeah yeah oh geez one people have to be dicks one day we'll know who that is
do you think it'll be in our lifetime if we'll ever know who banks you think we'll know
find out who banks you is I think we'll know find out who banks you is I think
so i feel like we will yeah i hope we do i'd like to know him uh all right everybody
that is going to do it for that let's let's dive into some uh some news because i feel like we
have uh we've you know we've let the information go a little too long without sharing it with other
people for sure so here it is now well that's one way to do it hey it's the news brought to you by
Brought to you by Daily Music Headlines. Find out what's going on in the world of music by going to daily musicheadlines.com.
For example, today you'll be happy to learn that Ed Sheeran finally knows the name of his last album.
It's going to be called Eject, and he's instructed his wife, Cherry Seahorn, to release it after his death.
She gets to pick the songs, and she's going to release the last album after he dies.
It's going to be called Eject.
Oh, my.
all right
so this isn't him saying
he's not going to make
him more albums in his lifetime
he's saying
he knows what he's going to do
or is he retiring
from he actually is
he's got four more albums
so he just released play
yeah
he's got
rewind
pause
stop and
um
I remember what the fourth one is
forward maybe
forward
be that would make sense right
it's really going with the tape
the tape metaphors here is that's basically
yeah it's
his previous one
were all
ones were all
arithmetic symbols
or math symbols
plus minus divide
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does he have one
in the middle there
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So find out about all that and some other weird and cool stuff going on in the world.
Bad Bunny is going to be live streaming his final concert this weekend.
And same day, you can go by, oh, last concert of his tour.
Okay.
I was like, why is everybody retiring at like 22 or however old these kids are?
The last concert of his current tour, he's going to live stream on Amazon music this weekend.
On that very same day, you can pre-buy tickets for Mariah Carey's short Las Vegas.
Christmas residency. And by golly, I know we're all going to line up for that. Yeah, I'm going to
get right on that. Yeah. I mean, no, I'm not at all. That's what I meant to say. That's right.
I told me until he sent me a text about it. I said, I don't think I'd even take a free trip to
Vegas if it meant that I had to go see that. I don't think I would either. Like, it depends on
how free they're saying. Like, if it's free and I can also maybe not go to that and I'll just do
other stuff. No, see, that would be the requirement. You would have to go to the more I carry
Mariah Carey show.
Yeah, forget it.
I have no hatred toward her,
but I don't care about that show.
I would not care about that at all.
Like zero.
He said, what if it was at the sphere?
And I said, oh, interesting.
You know, I'd have a lot of other things to look at.
And she would just be this little tiny speck down on the stage.
So maybe then I would go see the Mariah Carey Christmas show.
What if all they do is put a camera on her up close?
And then it's just her in the dome.
Fill the sphere with it.
I'm sure.
Just giant Mariah Carey looking at it.
She's not a very, what's the word, vain person.
So I can't imagine that she's going to want them to put a big camera on her for whatever concert.
Oh, yeah.
The last thing you hear about her is vanity.
You never hear about that.
You never hear about that sort of thing.
So, yeah, no diva or anything like that.
I guess when they call you a diva in the music world, there maybe is something to be an actual diva.
Yeah, there is definitely some diva too.
I think probably the least diva of the divas
is either Lady Gaga
seems pretty chill in interviews
and
hello from the other side lady
I can't think about Adele
Adele yeah Adele's a very good example of a
of a reluctant diva
like she you know
she'll be the queen when she's up on stage
and I think same with Gaga
Gaga is able to separate her personas
from like yep I'm just definitely
Germanotti here. And then over here, nope, I'm Lady Gaga and bow before me. Yeah. I think it's
an interesting mix. She fascinates me. I like her a lot. For sure, yeah. Probably the most,
though, like this now that I think about it is Sia, because Sia spends most of her time in that weird
wig when she's doing the Sia thing. And she's older. She's like our age. Or close to it,
you're a little younger. But she's got that presence. And at the same time,
nobody really knows what's going on
in her personal life. Otherwise, once
while you see a photo over at a food bank or something
and she just looks like anybody.
Just like this normal pretty blonde lady.
I like that. Yeah, I mean, she didn't start
doing that until her more
recent albums like her
the stuff
when I was getting her music
like clap for hands and the album
before that. It's just her on the cover.
It's like, okay, this is what she looks like
and now it's like, oh no, now she's a Muppet.
Now she's a lampshade, everybody.
she's the black and white cookie lambshade enjoy it's right exactly yes uh all right well check that
out daily music headlines dot com everybody kind of where that was going uh all right we got a
story here about a man arrested for living in a crawl space of a condo complex for quote an extended period
of time wow don't be doing this uh a man in organ it surprises me the movie coming up with tatum channing
uh oh yeah yeah or he lives in a toys or us or something when he's wanted yeah he's he's like
on the run, on the lamb, and he's hiding out in a Toys R Us or a Target or something like that.
There's a Toys R Us and I think so, and it's Peter Dinklage is the manager of the place.
Yes.
And it's based on a real story.
It's a real guy or something, I think.
Is it?
That's great.
Yeah, I can't wait to see that.
Something like that.
Anyway, it reminds me of that.
But a man in Oregon was arrested for living in a crawl space of a condominium complex for an
extended period according to the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office.
Clackamas.
Clackamas.
I love that.
Clackamas, Oregon.
It's pretty cool, right? Benjamin Booker, age 40, was arrested on Wednesday after officials investigated a suspicious circumstance at a condominium complex in Clackamas County, your happy valley. That's what we call Utah Valley. Call it Happy Valley. Because most people are oblivious to the world's problems and just live in their little. So it's like blissful ignorance valley. Yeah, they should call it that. Although that's where that shooting took place last week. So it's not as happy at the moment. Anyway, the sheriff's office said in a.
press release.
Wednesday around 11 p.m., a witness reported seeing a man who was, quote, not known to live in
the complex, parking his car and walking to the back of one of the buildings.
Upon further investigation, the witness also noticed the door to the crawl space was open
and a light was coming from inside.
They went to the scene, so they noticed a door in the space was damaged and now locked,
so broken into and then locked with a long extension cord running through a vent.
This is the part I respect.
You've got to get your TV and your whatnot.
Oh, yeah, your hot plate.
like all the things that you need
to be able to do what you need
to do with this for sure. Yeah, how are you going to live
in a condo crawl space that isn't yours
if you don't pull somebody else's power in there?
Deputies reached out to the owner of the complex
who said nobody was supposed to be down there
they said
and they had heard strange noises
coming from the crawl space before.
Here's the sound they heard.
Anyway, he's busted, he's out of there
no more living for free in the
I mean, that's just the state of housing
prices here in the state. You can't afford anything. See, live in somebody else's crawl space.
If I was single and couldn't afford an apartment or house or something, I would 100% try to do
something like this. If I wasn't, if I wasn't bothering anybody and the only thing I was doing
was just slurping off of the electricity that the apartment complex is using, kind of, you know,
I would do the rooftop, live on a Toys R.S rooftop.
If I had to, in the crawl space, the attic of something like that.
I don't even know what I would do.
If I found a guy, might even be willing to say, I didn't notice you for six months.
My bill didn't strike.
You go, you know what?
Chill, dude, you're good.
In fact, here's some brownies.
I might do that.
Right.
Totally.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd have to ask, you know, if this is just me alone, I could make that choice.
But, you know, I'd have to ask my life.
Kim may not be into it.
Do you mind making some brownies for a seller man?
Yeah.
She may not be so into it.
Crawlspace man.
May not quite be as into it as I am.
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there's still something wrong isn't there bill
well that's the rumor old bill joining us once again i don't call you old bill you're
like a cowboy or something old bill yeah the cool thing about bill is he can make his own crawl
space that's true oh yeah yeah you would too right if you had to you'd make a crawl space and
survive the zombie apocalypse that's how you'd survive yeah and it would be it would be nice
yeah it'd be the nicest crawl space oh yeah
you've got all the intimidating fake weapons you know and scare all the all the stragglers off and say hey can we come in there no as you aim your mass effect gun at them it would probably be more like finding someone's stash and fall out like where did they get all this crap I love it dude it is Bill Duran he runs all things punished props up there in the Pacific Northwest he comes on here so graciously and talks about cool maker stuff everything
from what's going on with the 3D printing world
all the way till something red he took
to a convention and everything in between.
Even sometimes he drops us a bomb and says
hey Adam Savage came to my house
and he and I made you know
cookies or whatever. That's also exciting.
Anyway, Bill, enough about me.
Let's talk about you and what you're doing this week.
Well, I did make something rad and I did bring it
to a convention and that's what I want to talk about
today. Sweet.
So I'm still coasting off
it's been a couple weeks, but coasting off the
Dragon Con after Glow.
For sure.
Right and high.
Oh, yeah.
No one deserved.
Good one this year.
So I finished up Bender.
Well, I got him to have finished enough state to take him to the show.
I got my Bender robot out to Atlanta and he partied all weekend long.
It was amazing.
How did, uh, this is always a question I have with anybody who has like a separate thing.
And I guess you've done this before with the Starcraft, uh, probe and all that.
but how do you do this in the space that is so overly occupied by human bodies?
How are you getting around in that crowd?
That seemed crazy.
So there's an area where the bots all hang out in the Marriott there.
And I hung out there a whole bunch.
And people kind of understand that that's where the bots are.
And kids like to go hang out there because I like seeing the robots.
So I hang out there.
But also just during the day when it wasn't crazy busy, I just had them on the floor.
and it worked it worked fine um when it started to get really busy i put him away um because i didn't
want people tripping over him and you just can't see him he's short enough that if the crowd is too
tight you just don't see him at all so yeah right you also got about not just somebody not just people
not see him but falling like tripping and falling on him and destroying all your work in the space of
a second yeah so um but but i did get to bring him out a lot like we were there for five days and i brought
about, I think about five hours each day.
So he got a lot of a lot of play out on the floor.
That's great.
How loud is his voice so that could you, could you have people behind him go,
ah, it's a freaking bender behind me?
It is not loud enough for DragonCon.
I definitely need to upgrade his sound system.
Now, in the elevators, you could hear him great.
And I had programmed a lot of lines that killed in the elevators.
So I was having a lot of fun.
Every couple floors, I got a new audience, and I can use all the lines over again, and they just slayed the whole weekend.
Oh, my gosh.
You can find it in here.
That kills me.
There's little kids all squatted down looking at him while he's talking.
That's adorable, dude.
So the kids would sit down and look him right in the eyes, and I could puppet the eyes to look at them, and they were transfixed.
It was amazing.
One kid had a little digital camera, and he took a picture of Bender.
and then he turned the camera around so we can show Bender.
Oh, that's cute.
I love that.
I love it that there are kids of an age that are way into it
that probably have never seen Futurama, but they don't care.
Right.
No, the robot in the little car is just really cute,
and they wanted to talk to him.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Now, after doing this and showing him off and that sort of thing
and spending the weekend with Bender,
a weekend with Bender, do you, is there a little George Lucasy kind of thing,
going on where or James Cameron maybe where you're like oh you know what there's a few things
now I want to add to it or there's like some extra things I want to do many things I want to add
so so many things and I and the last video I put up on YouTube I asked for more ideas too
like I want to make a little beard I can snap on him a little rusty beard for you know when he's
sober oh right I love the rusty beard it's one of my favorite things I do in that show
And there's just a myriad of ideas like that little Futurama thing.
I want a little stack of cash I can put in his mouth or a cigar or a little jet of flame that shoots out of his mouth.
Love it.
Yeah.
Hats.
I want more like features for his car, like a party mode, a little exhaust maybe.
I don't know.
I got tons of ideas.
That's great.
You can put a little tiny civilization on him.
Do you remember that episode?
It's one of the greatest episodes of TV ever, not just Futurama.
It's so good.
Oh, incredible.
Yeah.
Oh, speaking of which, yeah, the new season just started back up on Hulu this week.
I'm so excited.
Yeah, excellent.
I got to catch up.
I got to finish watching the rest of it.
Yeah.
I'm behind by about a season and a half.
So is the next step, like, I know you've got the tribes thing you're doing on cults, right?
Uh, what is it?
Printables, there we go.
Printables, printables.
Is this something that, like, you could do a version of this that people could print
themselves, take apart an RC car, print the pieces, and kind of have a non-verbal version of it to
write around? Or is there too much that's not 3D printed that you used to make this that
that wouldn't quite work for? It's tough. The car it's built on is like a $300 RC car that you
have to cut half. And that's kind of a that's kind of a huge barrier to entry. I think is
Yeah.
But maybe I can make a version of him, maybe of just the head in the car that's maybe a smaller version.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe where the wheels don't, or maybe where the wheel, it's just regular wheels, you know, it's just regular wheels.
You can push him around.
Yeah, maybe I can do that.
That'd be fun.
Yeah, that's cool.
I like that.
Well, this is awesome.
Does it make you want to do anything else in the Futurama universe, like something with the ship or something with Lila?
I don't know.
I've been watching the show.
There's an episode where he's flying around.
It's just ahead.
on a little UFO.
I could just build a UFO and just swap the head on it.
Yeah, modular, modular, bender head.
That's great.
Yeah.
I could build a robot body, a bender body that's like a statue,
and the head could pop on there and it could just talk to you.
I could have a motion activated, so when you get near him, he yells at you.
Oh, I love it, dude.
Oh, yeah.
So many good ideas.
Love it.
There you go.
This is what I love about doing all my work on the internet is I can then,
I can do all this work.
I have this platform now, this robot,
and then I can put it out and say,
hey, everyone,
what ridiculous things should I do with my robot?
And I get just the weirdest ideas.
That's awesome.
I told you I wanted to upgrade his speaker.
I want to animate his mouth.
The eyes could use an overhaul.
The version one's pretty good,
but I've got some ideas for the version two.
Yeah, this is a project that just breeds more projects,
and I'm really excited to do more to it.
Um, I noticed a lot of the, you showed a lot of cuts from the event where others have, you know, there's Wally and there's some Androids and droids and all this stuff. Is that a growing part of the event, uh, remote, you know, a little set of side. Cause plays of robots. Yeah. I don't know if it's growing. There's always a lot of them there. Um, there were two wallies and I really, really want to build a Wally. It's just, it's just a ton of work. Yeah, that one's a beast. Sure. Yeah. Oh yeah. Someone says Nibler and
his ship. Imagine a little nibbler
ship driving around. Oh man.
Now I want to do that. Yeah. See?
Oh my name. A little trailer
for him, a little, a little
U-Haul trailer. You could
have the concentrated
dark matter
turd come out the back of the thing.
Yeah, a little hard, heavy
lead ball that's all black.
Yeah. Or it could be like, it could be like
chocolates. He could poo our little chocolates. Oh, it's
great. Yeah. That means you're still picking up
a piece of chocolate off the floor and eating it.
I mean, not.
me these are for other people yeah of course of course yeah that's never for you all those all those
kids those kids love floor chocolate well this is awesome now something we didn't do last time because
we're idiots uh before i just tell everybody where to go by the way it's punchprops dot com it's also
the punch props youtube channel and all that but last time you were on i completely spaced you
giving us a bonus link as the tradition that it is and somehow i just spaced it and kicked you
out of here so not today what do you got uh drop a link in the chat there for
for James Bruton,
uh,
maker out of the U.K.
He's been around for forever.
He builds robots,
but the robots you can ride on.
Oh,
wow.
Right now,
he's building a four-legged Walker robot that you can,
or that he can ride on.
Uh,
and it's just,
it's,
everything he makes is ridiculous and awesome.
Like,
nobody asks for this.
He's just going ham on his,
with his printers and building the craziest stuff.
I was going to say it looks like a lot of,
uh,
regular 3D printed gears and stuff and yeah and then aluminum extrusion just like that's the
stuff you used to make the 3D printer oh man that's awesome so he'll have he's this is just one in
a series and it looks like it's he's not quite there but he's getting there so keep your eye on this
guy it is uh james brutton b r u t-o-n yeah i know right man all right Brian you got printers
come on now yeah uh-huh uh get that going get that project going sure sure sure
Sure. I'm all over it. Yeah. Yeah. Happening soon. The STLs are on their way. Well, Bill, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. I'm glad you didn't get the concrude or did you.
Yeah. I got a, Brittany, I both got a little bit of a head cold, but we're over it.
Okay. That's not bad. Nasty stuff this year. So I'm glad to hear it was mild.
Mm-hmm. It is Bill DeRan. He is punished props. He is chin beard everywhere you go. So look for that as well on all the socials. Bill have a fantastic week. And we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.
Always good to hear from Bill.
Always, always.
Love hearing from, Bill.
Yeah.
Bill.
Uh, all right, guys.
We got some emails, texts, and stuff to get to.
Seab wrote in.
Or would you say Seab?
I don't know.
Seab.
Oh, Seab.
Might be short for Sebastian, but maybe not.
Oh.
Seab.
So that'd be S-E-B.
Yeah, be, usually it's S-E-B.
Usually it's short is Seab or C-B or whatever.
Seba or something.
But this is S-E-A-B.
And that might even be a typo based on the rest of this.
Yeah, I just, I'm only reading this because this is the most nonsense thing I've ever gotten,
but it's said so earnestly that I really, I want to explore this.
So Sieb, S-E-A-B, sent this message in.
He says, when did you guys have that tree, when did he, or sorry, it's so messed up.
I'm going to mess up.
Yeah.
When did you guys have that tree, when did hey?
Question mark.
When did hay, yeah.
Do you have any interpretation?
of what I just read, Brian.
I'm guessing this was spoken into a phone with dictation
by somebody from Wisconsin.
I love it, all right.
When did you guys have that tree, when did hey?
Yeah, when did hey?
For a second, I thought maybe it should be Wendy Day,
that something Wendy Day, that free Wendy Day.
Okay, no, I like this.
I don't know. I mean, this is...
We're doing detective work.
best we can. Yeah. All right. So I put it up for the chat and anybody at home, again,
the sentence says, when did you guys have that tree? When did hey? Question mark from Sieb.
If you can interpret that, tied to Wendy somehow or I don't know. Maybe we'll hear from the original
author. That'd be great. Seab, Seab, let us know. Let us know. What, uh, what exactly were you
trying to say? I could send an email to Sieb at gmail.com, but I don't know if it would get to them, you know.
Really weird.
Anyway, chat seems to have zero ideas about any of that was, but that's okay.
They don't.
Yeah.
Here's one from, doesn't say who.
Yeah, we don't have a name, but some are from New Jersey.
Hey, borough and suburb, it starts.
I like that.
Okay.
Yep.
Regarding your discussion of townships and such, in New Jersey, we have boroughs, townships,
and cities, and the distinctions come from their forms of government.
And here's how those break down.
This is, I did not know this.
This is great.
Yeah.
Townships often include different named sections, like the Leonardo section of Middletown Township, or Lindcroft Village in the same township.
These actually come from earlier towns, and then were combined, and they're governed by committee.
Oh, that's interesting.
Usually it's separate.
It's like, it's opposite of that here.
A small community will grow so much that it will get incorporated as its own city or town and then split out.
But this sounds like a different consolidation kind of idea.
It says boroughs are similar, separate towns, governed by mayor or council.
Cities like Newark or Ashbury Park are governed by a council and manager.
Not mayors, interesting.
They're just different names for similar types of municipalities.
Hope that clears things up.
Do they all have comptrollers?
Is that the deal?
Only boroughs.
Comptrollers just work in boroughs.
I wish we had a borough.
Burroughs would be cool.
Those are cool, right?
Yeah.
We don't get those out here.
Not in the West.
I feel like we bailed on you guys in the 1800s and said,
ah, we're moving west, is big, wide open, whatever.
And we're not using any of your words, your fancy East Coast words.
F off, we says, says us.
I'll pile on to that because somebody did send in a well, actually.
And we're not going to want to cover this a second time.
But let's see, Joshua Hilton wrote in and said,
Town, well, actually, towns and civil townships are not interchangeable in Indiana.
I live in Deer Creek Township and Miami County.
We're not only elected county officials, but township boards and trustees as well.
Indiana has 92 counties and over 1,000 civil townships, each with elected trustees and boards.
The closest I could find of this in Utah was what they called metro townships.
Those only exist in Salt Lake County, and that practice ended in 2024 when they became towns or cities.
Oh, interesting.
All right, well, that's a perfect place for this well-actually.
We're not going to save it for Friday.
Yep, exactly.
Thank you for that.
That's awesome.
No, no point in re-well-actuling that since we've already well-actually.
No.
Got another one.
This just in, Hey, Spunger and Ballatroon?
Ballotroon.
Ballotroon.
Sure.
I don't know what that is.
I imagine we're going to get the context of whatever he's pulling those names from.
Yeah, I feel like I'm going to feel dumb like I missed something.
But here we go.
In TMS-28.
67 earlier this week. Bobby kicked
things off by saying he wanted to cover something
lighter. And then
immediately dove into an invasion of flesh-heating
screw worms.
Glad he kept it cheerfully
says. It reminded me of a book I read called
The Lost City of the Monkey God.
That's familiar to me.
I don't know why. It's true, anyway, it's a true
story about a modern expedition into the mosquito
coast of Honduras in
search of a lost civilization, including
or sorry, using LIDAR, the team was able
to detect what lay beneath one of the densest jungles on Earth.
Oh, very cool, actually.
Scary, dude. Yeah.
I won't spoil the details, but the history and expeditions are fascinating.
The book also takes a darker turn when flesh-eating sandflies, like responsible for wiping
out past civilizations, enter the picture.
Even today, they have spread as far north as the United States.
I didn't know about these.
No one told me about no sand flies.
Sand flies? I mean, sandflies, we saw a ton of them.
We went to Rootan, which is an island off the...
coastal Honduras.
They call them no seems and they
bite and you never see them.
It's like, great.
I've got a little, I've got a bunch of little bites
all over my legs from these sandflies
and I didn't get to kill a single one of them.
Yeah, dude. That's wild.
Yeah.
I don't want any of this.
But knowing that they've spread up to the,
to the U.S. kind of freaks me out.
Well, in our dry climates, man,
it seems like a thing called a sandfly
might flourish here, you know?
night, yeah. We can't grow coffee, but we can get
Sam flies.
Anyway, he says, I think Bobby and others
would really enjoy it. I wanted to pass that along. I love the show. Justin. Justin
recommended the Long City. Sorry.
You know, the Long City.
The Long City of the Monkey, Gord.
It's the new Justified
Offshoot single season.
That's right, yes. Justified, colon,
the Long City.
the lost city of the monkey god and that's available on amazon so go check it out if you're so inclined
toward things like that uh thank you for your emails your questions your thoughts you guys can send
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because you can just go to the website frogpans.com slash tms
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includes other stuff
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like my birthday's coming up
Brian's gonna play me a song
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you'll find
you'll find our list
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you'll find all those links
we put it in one place
right that's right yep
you lazy ass mother efforts
I can't remember everything
I need to
need to make sure
I link to Bill's video
I'll do that
I'll do that after the show
that'll go up
putting it in post
also
someone says something in the chat
and I made me want to ask this
I haven't seen Claire in the chat in a few days.
Can somebody do a wellness check on Claire?
Yeah, I know she's, her new job now doesn't work because she's working at the time that we do the show.
And she basically gets off of work around the time that we finish up.
And so she never gets to hear us live anymore.
But it still would be worth finding out if she's doing all right.
Yeah, I sent her a quick note.
I don't know when she'll get it.
But hopefully someone will hear something.
Hopefully she's okay.
I miss her.
annoying presence here in the chat room.
Right when I took a drink of coffee.
Yeah, perfect timing.
All right.
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This week is full of sorts of things,
all sorts of things.
We've got Play Retro tonight.
tomorrow we got a new word on the street with Greg Street
Friday we have core
Why is core on Friday because Thursday I go sign a bunch of contracts
For the freaking
Nurtacular deal next year
So that's all happening this week
Big week
And my mom's moving into a place that smells like pee
So it's all happening
Oh no
I don't know if it does I hope it doesn't
It's supposed to be really nice so
And I'm still hoping to announce my next project
The thing I've been working on for a couple months
Announce it Thursday so be here
be here for that.
I'm very excited.
Yeah, there is a show Thursday.
I won't have left until I don't leave for a couple hours after that.
So be here all week, everybody.
Wendy will be back home or will Wendy?
She says she is, but I told her don't stress if it's a problem because she flies home late Wednesday.
And she says, no, I'll be fine.
I got it.
And I'm like, all right, just we're easy here.
So if it's a problem.
We can do an episode with her talking about all the stress involved with signing contracts.
Yeah.
She's had her hands full since.
she's been here. It was really fun to hang out though
the other night. We all got to just sit and talk
and she did a trick. She refuses
to let me show the
video of this. So I'm going to honor
her request and not show it. Like a magic
trick kind of thing? Kind of, but here you got this
professional therapist, very grounded, very
educated, all these things that Wendy is and she exudes this
sort of professionalism wherever she goes.
But she has a side of her that is
basically me. All right?
Yeah, sure. And once in a while it comes out
like when we were growing up
during Thanksgiving, our goal was to
see who could burp or fart the quietest
so that no one else
around the table would hear it and the person who
if somebody eventually noticed
then that person had to do
I can't remember what we made each other do
it was like a contact
so I know she's capable of these things
well the other night we're in my mom's
little room there
and she goes oh do you know I can do this and I said what
she stood up I pulled my phone out she goes
you better not show this to anybody I said I won't
if you tell me not to do it, but I still filmed it.
So I have it if I ever need blackmail.
You have it.
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
It's the, yeah.
Yeah, I got,
you always have to roll.
The cold curling iron of blackmail.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
So she gets up and she stands across.
She gets a bottle of water and she stands probably eight feet away from a table that had a plant on it.
I think.
Yeah, that's what she did.
It was a plant.
She drinks a little water.
And then she proceeds to show us that the gap in her front two teeth.
I also have one, but she has a bigger one.
she takes this water and makes the perfect stream that starts and then ends as she wants it to.
So it's not like a bunch of extra drippy or drops.
Right, like she's got to work her way to figure out where the aim is.
She gets it right from jump.
Yeah, and it goes, and then all of it ends up in the plant, no spillage, no spray, no offshoot.
It was amazing.
Now, she's okay with you fully describing all this?
Oh, yeah, she's fine with me telling it.
She just doesn't want it on film.
Just no video.
Okay.
Yeah.
But if I ever need it,
I'm going to right here, maybe.
Wow.
It's in the cloud now.
Better not hack me.
I have an idea for the next taskmaster.
Oh, man.
It'll ensure her win.
It's the best I can tell.
For sure, yeah.
All right, but that's it for the show.
Thanks everybody for listening.
Brian, let's play a song on our way out the door.
What do you got?
Yeah, this one's not one of our happier dedications,
but hopefully it comes out okay.
September wrote in and said on September 4th, my friend Marianne had a stroke.
She's in the ICU, and tonight there's news of complications.
Marianne and her husband and children need all the good vibes we can spare.
Marianne is the biggest Depeche Mode fan ever.
I thought I loved them.
I had nothing on her.
I sent her condolences when Andy Fletcher passed.
Rob plays a Depeche Mode song when she comes to one of his shows.
She's beautiful, kind, caring, and fun.
one of those people that light up a room, any Depeche Mode song would be great, uh, signed
September. Um, so, uh, September, if you can get us an update on how she's doing,
hopefully she's recovering like she, the complications were, were, um, uh, minor or even, you know,
non-existent, um, and that she's recovering. So hoping for that. Um, now with Depeche Mode,
here's the, here's the tougher part. You don't want to have
something like enjoy the silence or um personal jesus when something like this uh so i pick
something that i've heard recently that i absolutely loved it fits uh with the theme and uh listen
if you love the album violator you know this song it's called sweetest perfection and it's a
hidden gem on the violator album oh yeah it's so good that album is so good it's hard it's easy for songs
to get overlooked but that one is really a banger you got those big juggernauts on that album and
these things kind of slip by these little um deep tracks that are so good uh sweetest perfection
covered here by the band color theory they actually put out an album five years ago called color
theory color theory presents depesh mode very um heavier electronic edm on that dance though electronic
music sound to them and they're it's really really good um color theory here's their cover of
sweetest perfection i know that nothing can stop me
The sweetest perfection to call my own, the slightest correction, the slightest correction, couldn't finally horn.
Sweetest injection of any kind
I stop and I stare too much
Afraid that I care too much
And I hardly dare to touch
For fear that the spell may be broken
When I need a drug in me
And brings out the thugging me
Feel something tugging me
Did I want the real thing not tokens?
The sweetest perfection to call my own
The slightest correction
Couldn't find me home
Sweetest infection
Of body and mine
Sweetest injection
Of any kind
Things you'd expect to be
Having effect on me
Pass on detected me
But everyone knows
No one knows what it's got me, takes me completely.
Touch is so sweetly, reaches so deeply,
I know that nothing can stop me.
An offer was made in a sort of collection that I wouldn't trade
The sweetly, touch is so sweetly,
riches and take me
The sweetest sweetness perfection
To call my own
The slightest correction
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