The Morning Stream - TMS 2890: The Crapture

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

How To Moisten Cat Hair. They'll be, maybe, probably fine, with Stephen. It's A Good Dumb. Sorry, Boggle! I Don't Want Cottage Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese! Manning the invisible table. A Sleeping Bag With Sleeves. Gelatinous Globulars. Celery is a Waste of Time. Dayquil Dunaway. Neon Itchy Bum. Thumbs Up On Friendship. Elevator bras. Cranked up awkwardness. A fine line between Sexy and Sexist and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Standing in the rain with his head hung low, he could get a ticket to patreon.com slash TMS and support his favorite morning show podcast. Coming up on the morning stream, how to moisten your cat hair. They'll be, maybe, probably fine with Stephen. It's a good, dumb. Sorry, Boggle. I don't want cottage cheese. Manning the invisible table. A sleeping bag with sleeves.

gelatinous globular. Celery is a waste of time. Dayquill done away. Neon, itchy bum. Thumbs up on friendship. Elevator bras. Cranked up awkwardness. A fine line between sexy and sexist and more on this episode of the Morning Stream.

You are a stupid, selfish, oxy-smoking gutter turd. Tell me you're shitting me. The Morning Stream. Stir whip, stir whip, whip, whip, stir beat. Hello everybody. Welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream from Monday, the September 22nd, 2025. I am Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. That's right. Did you remember the 21st night of September, Scott? I did. And someone's still supposed to wake me when September ends next week. So that's right. Yes. Let me know when that happens. So many September songs. And that, you know, that Earthwind and Fire song. Taylor Swift covered it, but she changed the lyrics to the 28th night of September.

So you still have a week for the Taylor Swift one, too. Why'd she do that? Do you know why? No idea. Yeah, I don't know. It's an interesting question. Like, uh, weird. There's got to be some significance to September 28th for.

Yeah. There's probably some conspiracy about, you know, end times or something. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Speaking of which, we're supposed to have somewhere between now and Wednesday, we're supposed to have a legit rapture. Yeah, they finally

rescheduled a rapture for those who couldn't make the last one. Yeah, and I'm going to make a commitment now. I did it on social media already, but I will eat two pounds. We'll weigh it to make sure that's how much it is. Two pounds of wet cat hair on live stream

if there's a rapture and assuming I get left, right? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously. Assuming I'm a leftover. Yeah, I have to be a leftover. If I'm a leftover and there's still people running, you know, Twitch and YouTube servers, uh, I assume they'll be leftovers also. I will on a live stream eat two pounds of wet cat hair. How we moisten the hair is up to the listeners. They can choose. Oh, they can choose what,

what substance is used to moisten the cat hair. Yeah. Anything they want. I'll go with whatever they want. So, uh, you know, that's how that's how little I believe that by Wednesday there will be a rapture. And I'm sure, like always, Brian, these gold posts will be set in stone. They'll be dried cement. Nobody will move them. No. Right. No.

This is the one. I'm sure. This is it. Right. After this one, if this one isn't right, there won't be any future rapture dates planned. This is your last chance to see the rapture live in concert. Yeah, all those other thousands of them that have come before. Those were just tests to see if you're ready.

This one is the one. Okay. So 50% of you see you. actually some of you who think you're going not so sure you would be if it was real and also there's also some of you I wouldn't mind see and go so yeah yeah go as part of the crapsher actually oh the crapsure damn well I hope I'm not part of that whole different whole different set of folks going to the crapsure well speaking of crapsures I went to a bit of a crapture it's not true I went to so this place is nice so it's not like a big stinky place but you know It's a quote-unquote old folks home. Sure. The facility my mom's in. Assisted living.

Now they call them assisted living. Back in the day, we're like, that's where people go to die. Old folks home, yeah, right. But we went there to visit her, took the littles with us. They have a coy pond and some rose bushes. And it's like this nice, you know, they have a really, a pretty nice place. And the place is packed. I was like, wow, this is when people visit on Sunday, I guess.

Or the parking lot was packed, I should say. It was nowhere to park. So we go inside, though. and it's empty. So I assume, all right, well, all the cars that are here are all in the rooms talking to their family. Nobody's out in the common areas. And they have this one big common area

where you can get a little ice cream cone and a fresh cookie and just sit there, you know. And they got a TV blaring Fox News. And they got this one little old blue-haired lady. She looked about a thousand and ten years old. And she's sitting there. there just all hunched over her table just screening and looking and listening to that thing like it was the like it was just a magnet over there just like r her she looked 60 before she started

watching fox news yeah that was just a week ago so yeah yeah anyway she's in there just so focused on fox news of course and she was so into it that i said to the lady uh right while i was up front i said of the lady i said we change that to like nature programming or something like for these kids and and she goes oh that lady over there will not like that so i went okay i guess i see what's going on okay great so let's take your ice cream your cookie and get out unless you want to unless you want to hear how uh yeah so i went to my mom's room where she is watching reruns somehow she's getting reruns of uh america's got talent oh okay she really likes that yeah you know what yeah good wholesome entertainment she

she's not a news person she'll watch like um you know morning news local stuff sure which is that 24 hour thing yeah 24 hour thing forget it she's not into it yeah and that's good probably it was good for us anyway growing up although growing up we didn't have that we didn't have these 24 hour news network CNN came around what late 80s early 90s something like that we were about done we were exactly we've moved we'd we'd taken a step away from tv to go do fun stuff outside of our lives or outside of our homes only to return later to like plug ourselves into the TV for binge sessions of of this and that but yeah no that all happened that that that's kind of what I attribute some of the the great shows that I missed in life were because they came around

the time that I was like nope I'm going I'm hopping in the car picking up friends we're going to southwest plaza mall to the cruise chicks or something like that I miss that I loved mall going. You know, it's like a, it's like a stereotype of the 80s, but man, malls were awesome. Yeah. Those of you who missed out on that whole culture and just see it from things like stranger things and, uh, clueless and stuff like that, man, it was, uh, it was a whole event. It was a vibe. Friday nights, you go out, you pick up your friends, you, and you just walk up and down the mall. Yeah. And you see the same, you smile at the same girls that are passing by every, you know, Every lap, and you do nothing about it.

You might get a little slice of cheap pizza in the food court. You might go to the arcade for a while. Orange Julius, sure. All the places you love. I guess for us, I'm trying to think what it would have been. Probably, I think we had a software, et cetera, while I was in high school still. Oh, sure. Yeah.

We had Walden book, like some of the more popular Walden books and B. Dalton. Smart girls hung out. Yeah, right. Exactly. Spencer's still around. Yeah. They still, I noticed the one near us has a... Isn't it funny?

Oh, go ahead. Isn't it funny that of the three that I named? Like, Walden Books, B. Dalton, and Spencer's. The one that's still around is Spencer's. I know. It doesn't seem right. It doesn't. Those other two were reputable bookstores, damn it.

And Spencer's, which is like, they got a beat-it-off area full of dildos. They got fart jokes and... Right. Every incense burner you could ever imagine and 48 knockoff, shirt. It's fantastic. Some kind of metaphor there. I don't know what it is. Metaphor for the degradation of society. Yeah. That's an old guy thing to say. I won't say it again. But it's, but it's so true. What did you get up to this weekend? Anything fun? We, you know, for the most part, kind of stayed in, took care of some house stuff. I finished a build, sort of a Lego build,

but it's not officially licensed Lego that I videotape that I'm going to put on YouTube, hopefully soon. I did the time lapse thing because this thing came in 28 bags and required a lot of work. So it's like, all right, let's turn this into content. It'll be fun. And then we watch Final Destination Bloodlines, which

is pretty much everything it says on the package. It's a final destination. There's bloodlines on it. Yeah, there's a nice little homages to earlier parts of the series. Tons of them, tons of references. Would you think of

that trash compactor business, that really stuck with me. Oh, geez. That was hard. The practical effect on that one, I think if they would have made her eyes move a little bit, it would have been sold even further on that, but it's a pretty rough business. That's so gross.

I liked it, though. I had a great time with that movie. Yeah, for sure. I was surprised how much Kim likes it. Kim's like, I don't want to see it a long walk. And I'm like, but you like Final Destination? And she goes, yeah, but that's ridiculous. And I said, you know what?

You're right. It is ridiculous. It's torture versus. is, you know, in some cases, it's like, oh, that person's a snub. They're probably going to die. That person's a real dickhead. He's probably going to die, too.

Plus it's so over the top. It's just dumb. Yeah. You know, good dumb. It's a good dumb. It's a good dumb. But it is like, you know, bio cow nails it.

It's the Rube Goldberg device deaths. It's like, you know, the kid in the tattoo shop and these 11 things have to be perfectly aligned in order for this one thing to happen that. Yeah. It's a good twist with him, though, I thought, at first. You know, because you were just sure that, especially because his whole sequence was featured in the trailers. Right.

And so we were all just convinced that this D bag at the tattoo shop was going to have, I don't want to spoil it, have happened to what happened. But the way it twists is interesting. But don't worry if you're, if you're worried he lives on is going to be in a bunch of sequels, don't worry about that either. Right. Exactly. Then this might be your first time seeing a Final Destination film. Yeah. And next time you see an MRI machine, just, you know, be careful.

just walk away just walk away um we also watched a movie called friendship this is one that we'd seen trailers for and then kind of forgot about but it's uh tim robinson and paul rudd um the very like an extraordinarily awkward tim robinson who's usually pretty awkward this is like cranked up to full power um awkwardness his his capability towards awkwardness knows no bounds he can find it really really does and basically you know a couple guys uh paul rudd moves into the neighborhood um he's really cool uh tim robinson kind of idolizes them a little bit and and um through some uh bad decisions on paul on on uh tim robinson's part uh kind of develops a man crush on a guy who kind of doesn't want him around anymore um think like um kind of the

Zach Alfenacus character in the Hangover movies or maybe Cable Guy except in Cable Guy I was trying to nail this down because in movies like what about Bob and Cable Guy it's only the main character that you connect with that is

that you that like sees this person as a real annoying jerk that they are everybody else around them sees them as like oh you're so funny and like cable guy invites all these people over for karaoke and was it was broderick wasn't it yeah yeah matthew broadwick broderick is like our proxy of like no this guy's irritating and annoying um monica it's funny it's funny to bring up i love you man because it's kind of the reverse sequel of this because paul rudd and i love you man was the dude who had the man crush on jason seagull right um

as kind of the alpha as the alpha dude so you know what i think is funny about these guys this photo right here in particular for some reason Paul Rudd looks like he has a massive head for that body like proportionally something's weird going on and then what's his beak looks like he's got way too big a body for that little head it's really funny yeah the park is uh the two like you look at the different sizes on those two parkas and that's what does it like yeah Robinson looks like he's wearing a sleeping bag with sleeves yeah yeah

It looks like one of those, what do you call it? Snuggies except it's made for camping or something. Right, exactly. Anyway, so thumbs up, you say. Thumbs up on friendship. I think it was Paramount Plus. It's streaming, if I remember correctly. Sounds right.

Yeah, so take a look around for it. It's definitely worth a watch, and it goes places. I like going places. Yeah, go in places with that then. Yeah, going places is a good time. Hey, everybody, check it out. We've got this fun thing to do right now. Hey, look who it is.

That's our old pal, Brian Dunaway on the line. I'm going to play a little morning half-asses here on the Monday. What's going on, man? Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hey, man. You're at home. You know how I can tell? Because you're on a nice microphone.

That's right. I'm at home. I'm not feeling the best, so I took some medication. I'm on day cool right now. You know the stuff that keeps you awake, but you get to feel just as miserable? It's awesome. Yeah.

The best. They differentiate it by making it orange versus the green or purple that the NyQuil is. Yeah, that's right. I heard. It makes you feel like you're playing the Matrix. Do you ever, do you find that, what, do you react to like ibuprofen or Tylenol when you take it? Because Tylenol does nothing for me, like zip. Never does.

Never even attempts to remove a headache or a problem. It's a waste of time for me to take it. So when I take Dayquil, I'm mostly taking it for the other stuff, the antihistamines and all that. So does that work on you? Because it's just worthless for me. I take pain medicine so rarely. And I take all this medicine so rarely, it's just whatever's on hand.

Whatever's in the cabinet is what I take. And then I deal with the consequences later. Yeah. You're old school. Exactly. It's like, oh, we've got Mucinx. Great. I'm taking Mucin.

Sweet. I've got Benadryl. That's what I'm taking. Yeah. NewsNex is great because you've got that green little booger guy in your head. That's awesome. Yeah. That's right.

Yeah. Well, speaking of green little booger guys, we're going to. He's the brother of the, he's the brother of the Kola Gunn Box. Oh, yeah. Which you may have to do after taking the first. I was going to say that fits real good. That's an actually perfect relationship. Slimy.

Brian, but will you explain the game we're about to play? Who's involved and what they might win? I'll try, but man, I don't know. Who came up with this damn scoring system, but boy, is it confusing? Anyway, welcome to. the morning half ass is a trivia game where i'm going to be giving scott and brian the answers i'm going to give him a category and six possible answers three of which are correct and three like uh that little bugger guy in your nose that's all i could come up with on short notice are incorrect

depending on how confident they feel with the category they can provide one two or three guesses but if you get any of those guesses wrong you get zero points of that round one right gets you a point two right gets you three points three right gets you five points we're going to at all those points up and then declare a winner at the end. But it won't be you guys. No, it'll be members of our Patreon team. If you go to patreon.com slash TMS, you can join the Patreon group and win prizes like these two people.

Scott, you're going to be playing for Derek Wyman. Ooh, cool, Derek. Yeah, and Brian, you're going to be playing for Josh Haskins. Oh, man, he's cool, too. Josh Haskins, yeah. They're both super cool. They both sound like 80s kids. you're hanging out with before all the trouble starts.

Ah, where's Haskins? Oh, shit. He dug up the bone or whatever. That definitely feels like a king story, doesn't it? Yeah. Did you hear what Haskins did at Derek Wyman's party last weekend? Yeah, it was epic. Let's go to the mall, just like we were talking about.

All right, let's get to the first question here. Your first category is the Time Magazine Person of the Year. Which of these were Time Magazine's Person of the Year? your choices are u.s artists you the polar ice caps the twin towers the computer and the endangered earth oh man these all sound these these are not real people though except for one of the two actually two of these are real people sort of yeah groups of people are yeah groups of people not single it's not a person um right used to be like you know here's a person and they are our person of the year or for a long time it's just man of the year and then that yeah

sexist. That got a little sexy. I mean sexist. It was time for a change. It's such a fine line between sexy and sexist. All right, Dunaway. How are you doing over there? You got the clicky click. Do I need to start the timer? I'm starting it right now. You got 10 seconds there. I'm in the future because I'm on dayquil. Yeah. One day early. That's how that works. All right. You guys both locked in and you both locked in on the same one. So it's either you die, you live together or you die together um first off you both selected you absolutely this is yeah time magazine included a little mirrored square on the cover no isn't that clever you are a person of the year yeah well it must have been tough year that year it's like i don't know if i remember right it was it was like

hey the social net the social media world was like kicking off and now we're all we have the power and they didn't realize how shitty social networks would feel it was yeah 2004 you You were the man of the year, a person of the year. You guys also selected the computer. Also a person of the year. So congratulations. Do you remember, do you want to guess the year that the computer was? No, I'm going to say it was after YouTube because there was some kind of YouTube symbology on that cover.

I want to say it was 2007. Brian was two years off. It was 1982. Oh, shit. Yeah. I'm all wrong on that then. The other one was the Endangered Earth. That was the person of the year in 1980s.

And the endangered Earth is on the cover like for Mad Magazine's like, who me? Right, you fold it in and it's Alfred E. Newman. Right. All right. Let's go to question number two. Number two is board games published before 1950. Board games published before 1950. Your choices are, sorry.

Boggle. Scrabble. Uno Risk and Candyland. Three of those were published before 1950s. Sorry, Boggle, Scrabble, Uno Risk, Candy Land. These are also names of future Jordan Peel movies. I don't know, but I like how you say it. Sorry, Uno Boggle, Riss Scrabble.

Sorry, Boggle. And don't break the ice. All right, you guys both locked in on two of them. And once again, you locked in on the same two. Get out of here. The Mensey's fully in sync. You locked in on Scrabble and Candyland. Let's look at Scrabble first.

That seemed old. Scrabble was published in 1948, two years before. Yeah, look at that. A little later, I thought those. Candyland was published in 1949. Yeah. 49, baby. What was the other one?

Sorry was the other one. We had bubble technology then? Is that, you know, that's trouble. That's trouble. Sorry is the other one. Exactly. Yeah, sorry is just dice and meeple. meepas. When did risk

get? That seems like for risk. Yeah, that seems like right on the start of the war game type of board games that started, right? Yeah, yeah. Stratigo and all that. Yeah. Uno, surprisingly, 1971, I thought I was way more aware of

when Uno became available like it was in the late 70s, early 80s, but it was so colorful. Uno was published in 1971. Boggle, 1972. Oh my gosh. Let's letters in Boggle have been around forever. 72. That's crazy. That's Peggy Hill's favorite game.

Yeah, it seems like you would... The reason why I didn't go a boggle because I thought it has to have plastic, and I don't know if we were putting a lot of plastic in board games before the war effort. Yeah, I think early on, like Scrabbles all wood, like across the board, even the boards used to be wood, so that one makes sense.

Oh, yeah. But, yeah, boggle... That one boggles the mind. It does. It does. All right. get to let's see if we can break this tie with question number three all right uh discontinued flavors of jello believe it or not three of these were actually real jello flavors your choices are

cream of mushroom oh my god coffee seasoned tomato celery and licorish so jello these really were so not just gelatin gelato jello the brand is what we're even for here actual jello the brand so the gelatinous globulars that's what's getting me like cream of mushroom is If it ever existed, that's disgusting. It's very disgusting. Man, we've never had a six-on-sixth tie at this stage. This is nuts. No, no, it's pretty...

Well, not only that, I guess we've never had us choose the same exact answers to rounds. I know, yeah, you guys, in the first two rounds. We'll have to see if that happens a third time. Weird. All right. Brenn's still deciding. He's the decider. Oh, am I waiting on me?

Oh, I'm sorry. Apologies. Apologies. I don't know. You're the great decider. that's right okay I chickened out I chickened out

you did you did I know that I know that licorice was very popular during the what like 30s until the 50s or so so yeah

I just assumed oh yeah you go to the local concern and get you a licorice whip yeah you know yeah like the you know my dad's got Bursitis but I've got

five cents to spend I'm going to the town thing I learned that while I was doing that big league dive for the play retro show for the let's go all to all go to the lobby thing oh yeah that's why i learned oh yeah yeah have ourselves all right all right let's see what you guys chose uh scott you

risk things with two brian you uh played it safe with one let's see what happened here um scott you chose coffee as one of your choices coffee indeed was a discontinued flavor of jello and brian you you clicked it thought about it yeah chickened out pure pure guess there just seemed like a weird thing they would do. That's right. Let's see. I guess the, the other choices, Scott, you chose seasoned tomato. Brian, you chose licorice. One of you is correct. The other one is incorrect, which means we will have a decision on this game. Holy shit. Let's see what happens. The answer is Season tomato, Scott got it. Good job. Got two and each round. Celery, the other option, by the way. There was a discontinued celery. I had celery and coffee, but I just couldn't do it. I should have

got away from licorice. I almost chose celery because here in Utah, we're famous for shredding celery and carrots. And putting it in our stupid jello. And growing up, I hated both of those things. Terrible. Yeah, celery's practically a fruit too, right? So I mean, come on. Kind of. Practically.

I mean, it's not tangy. I don't know what celery is. It's a waste of time. It just adds texture. That's the thing. Jello has to kind of be bland, right? And so celery is about as bland as you can it. Because he's a tomato surprised me, though. Why put anything in

jello except for mandarin orange slices? Really? I mean, come on now. Bingo. Do not put marshmallows in. No. Do not put shreds of vegetables in there. And please, for the love of God, do not put cottage cheese in there. That's right. You psychopaths.

I think I grew up with all these 70s ladies, like my mom, my aunts. They all loved that shit. And they were making it every day. There is a tray of some form of this and none of the kids wanted it. None of us. Yeah. Maybe the jello one. The jello one

maybe, right? But then you see the plate after the kid was done and it would be nothing but a bunch of carrot shreds on the side. You get all the jello and spit out the carrot and the only use case I actually like for celery is celery salt on a hot dog. I like that. That's it. Forget it. What about marching ants? You don't like the celery. I like the

marching ants. I like, I like peanut butter on or pimento cheese bread yuck no all of that all of that makes me gag it was a thanksgiving tradition when I started dating Tina that we'd go to her grandmother's

house for Thanksgiving every year and one of the things they'd always have was these sticks of celery filled with pimento cheese stocks spread stocks thank you I'm just kidding doesn't matter no of the stocks And when they moved, when she had to be taken to a assist living place,

we did the clean out of their house and I got the fridge and open that thing up and there were no less than 18 bottles, half used bottles of pimento cheese spread because every year she would just go buy a new thing of pimento cheese spread, but she'd never throw out the old jars of it. gross so it's like well these are all going boom right in the trash yeah i'm guessing those don't hold up very long probably uh open it and they looked exactly the same color as they did all of all like even the one from 18 years prior looked the same color as the new models he couldn't tell yeah my i just had two things growing up i just refused three things three things i could not eat uh root beer floats we've talked about that i love what you guys just described i think any of these celery

combos, forget it. Celery and peanut butter, celery, anything. And any kind of sweet potato at the time. I like sweet potatoes now and the right combinations, but as a kid,

I'd rather be stabbed in the eye. Marshmellas and sweet potatoes? No, yams? What do you think? What do you take on yams? I don't like yams. I mean, I did like yams.

I mean, I do like yams now. You like yams now. Especially if they're prepared. What are those prefabbed? Same thing, right? Except sweet potatoes are yams. Yeah, aren't yams and sweet potatoes the same device?

Well, they are, but this is how I always distinguish it too. One of them always think of as an actual potato and the other one comes in those gelatinous circles, right? Yeah, right. Like the cranberry sauce kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's nothing

natural about them. Kind of foul. But you know what I did like? The little Vienna sausages we get at Thanksgiving. My mom would put one at each thing. Again, it's such a 70s-ass thing to do, but she assumed everybody wanted Vienna sausages. So we'd all end up with a little can of it, with the lid off, and without fail

at least three kids cut their fingers on that eff and can and bleed into their into their buns. So, by the way, let's stave off the well actually's yams and sweet potatoes are different, but there's a lot of similarities

to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're very close. Let's talk about these Vienna sausages. Did you guys get all this? Viana, Vienna, Vienna sausages. Viener sausages. Did you guys get the, did you get the flavored ones,

like the barbecue and all that stuff oh no that was a thing i didn't know that god god you'd be puking in a minute i didn't know that was a thing man oh yeah you don't have a pigly wiggly never mind all right then yeah let me look it out flavored vienna sauce yeah look at this chicken uh what's wrong with vienna sausage flavor uh right yeah we're struck with that actually a lot of things but do you like do you like the uh do you like the little gel like the little gel it comes in that no that's why i couldn't understand why it was the thing my mom put out for everybody it's like It's like sardines, right? It's like, I don't know.

It's not right, is what we're saying. It's wrong, and it shouldn't be done by anybody ever. By nina sausage, yes. Anyway, these hot and spices, though, aren't bad. I've had these. Oh, hot and spices aren't good. Yeah. But I don't want the goo inside or the blood that my cousins would put in there from their fingers getting cut.

Oh, yeah, sure. Anyway, hey, Brian, Dunaway, well done. You fought a good fight, but in the end. But for me and my guy, Congratulations. Prime, what did they win? They won a copy of Injustice, God's Among Us,

Ultimate Edition. Damn, that's really good. Fantastic. And Fear, the Ultimate Shooter Edition as well, courtesy of Grievous, both of those on Steam. But Brian, don't worry. Josh Haskins isn't going to walk away empty-handed.

He's going to get a copy of Middle Earth, Shadow of War, definitive edition. Oh, great games. Yeah. Grievous really loaded us up with some Great codes. Man, Shadow War is a... I think he won.

You might have won. That's pretty good. Yeah, fantastic game. Everywhere. Played the hell out of that. Well done. All. Everybody did it.

And even done away, deserves a clap on the back. I hope you feel better, though, dude. I hope the day quill, you know, clears out, whatever else going on there. I am flying high right now. I don't even know. Where are we even at right now?

Yeah, who are you? What are we? What is it? But I will see you probably tomorrow night, I assume, that things go well. for play retro. What are we covering this week, just so people know what they're tuning in for?

Oh, we're playing the Star Trek, the 25th Anniversary Edition, which I loaded up on my DOS 6.22 machine, and it is kind of cool. Is this the one you play from the bridge? Like you're on the bridge, controlling everything?

Yeah, you got, it's kind of almost like a point and click, but it's got a little more to it. But you play from the bridge, you've got landing parties. It's really cool. I mean, it's old. I like it a lot.

So the new, there's a really, awesome. Not enough people played it and it required multiplayer to really be any good and if you had VR support, but it was this, I forgot what it was called, but basically you remember that mobile game where it's like, oh, shut down the

venters, okay, I've got the thing. What was that called? Climbing the Jeffries tube. It was the team, something space team, space team. Space team, something like that, yeah. I think that's right. It was basically a big 3D graphical Star Trek themed version of that. Very cool game, but

because it was limited, at first it was limited just to VR, then they made it playable everywhere, but then it really required more people. It's a bummer because it was a fantastic game, but this is like proto that in a weird way. Wow. But it's so cool because all your little characters are all little small sprite cartoonified characters. It's a lot of fun. Visually it's great looking. It's a lot of fun. He's got the real voice actors. He's got the real voice actors. Yeah, but they're all a little older so you can tell it sounds weird like Dr. McCoy is like, I'm really

freaking old. You know, it's like it's great. Damn it, Jim. I'm barely talking over here. Well, we look forward to that. That'll be tomorrow. It'll be a great time. Brian Dunaway, please kiss her, Oh, there we go. Wow. All right, guys. Settle

in. It's time for this. Where is it right here? And now welcome Stephen to the show. He's a huge freaking nerd. Dalla, dollar bills, y'all. Stephen Schleiker from major spoilers.com joining us as he does. in a while on a Monday. Hello, Stephen. How are you? Hello, Scott. Hello, Brian. I am doing fine for a Monday.

Yeah? How's school? How are the kids? How's the next generation doing there? Everyone okay? These kids will be fine, I think. I think this generation maybe will be probably fine. Okay. Oh, God. Okay. I hope so. I wish they... It just sounds like a glimmer of hope. It doesn't sound like a lot, but a glimmer. No, no, no. It's a glimmer. A glimmer of hope. Yeah. I need them to be able to clean up all our shit. That's what I need. Yeah, maybe. Maybe they will. Maybe you never know. But we're glad to have you. We have you on to talk about the latest in pop culture comics, movies, that kind of fun stuff. But today, in specific, you're going to talk about a thing that I'm excited about because I need the world of digital comics to find whatever future footing it needs to be viable to not be all consolidated or get messy with Kindles and stuff and all that. Like what we thought comicsology might be for. for our lives before it got kind of bastardized.

Tell me there's hope. Well, okay, so in defense of Comicsology, it's still around. You can still buy your digital comics and read them on your iPad or your Android device. You just have to use the Kindle app, right? That was one of the reasons why Comicsology sold to Amazon in the first place was because they wanted to ensure that there was some longevity towards digital comics. So that's kind of the good thing, right? Yeah.

Um, but of course, they've gone into a different direction. So two of the, um, minds behind comicsology have gone off and they have created, uh, their own publishing company distillery. And in the last six months, they have launched neon Ichibon, neon icch, I-I-B-A-N dot com. And this is, I mean, it does really, neon Ichibon. I mean, it kind of does, but it makes me go, all right, all my anime needs are solved or my manga needs, but. You've got a big, you've got a big neon Ichibum. Well, now I'm never going to forget it. Yeah, there you go.

Nice job. So, did now. Yeah. They have been in an alpha stage for a while. They are now, I think we're into week three of the public beta. I mean, not sorry, not public beta, closed beta. And I'm in on that. I signed up early.

And on the surface, it feels just like a comicsology experience. You've got your library there. You can buy your comics. And last week they announced like three more publishers signing on. So last week they signed on Titan Comics, Mad Cave Studios and Dynamite Entertainment. They already had DC Marvel Vault Comics. Codancho, which is your manga.

Your Shonen Jump Stuff here in the United States. Viz, I think, is part of this as well. And so they basically got all the comic publishers on board for neon itjibon. So the experience is the same. The reading experience is very good. They are taking care of bugs left and right on this. And when it launches,

it should be a pretty good experience for, for everybody who's looking for one place to get your comics on day and date release. Okay. That's good. Cool. Yeah. So that way you don't have to worry about going and getting the Dark Horse app or the DC app or the Oni Comics app.

Just neon Ichibon is the place to go. Now they have a stop shop. Yeah. Now, I don't think that they have launched their app yet. So right now, you will have to read it through the web interface. So, you know, open up your Chrome browser on your mobile device and go to town there. There you go. The thing that this is where I think people are going to have some controversy.

I'm sure there's people jumping up and down right now saying, yay, here's the comicsology replacement. So they have an option where you can download. some comics, if some publishers allow you, you can download your comic book in PDF form so you can keep it, do whatever you want with it when you have that. And then they also have the ability to

resell your comics. Saw that on here. That seems really odd, but very compelling. Here's the thing, Brian. You can actually buy comics that they call Remarcade or Remarked where you can get variant covers. You can get

sketch variants that artists create and put on this cover for you, artists of the comic book. Yeah, I saw some of those on their Instagram, which really cool. Yeah, you can have a signature. You can get a digital signature. And then you can resell those and they have a digital providence that goes with it. So essentially a digital certificate of authentication. It feels, I mean, I know it's not, but man, when you start getting into selling those.

It sounds exactly like what you were about to say. NFTs. Yeah. Okay. Good. Yeah. That's what it. Yeah. So, but so that's the thing. It sounds like an NFT, but it almost sounds like an NFT that's done right because when you resell your stuff, 30% of that transaction goes back to neon Ichibon, which then splits it with the creators and or the publisher. Yeah. People have lost sight of the value in the blockchain of digital stuff because NFTs became this quick scam of like, oh, look at this monkey. You'll never get another one. Whatever. And that all took a big dump. But what shouldn't be lost on all of this. And it's really unfortunate. The technology underlying, it has applications. And digital rights and payouts,

royalties, that sort of thing on digital content, which we currently don't have any other way of doing, is we need a way to do it. Like that we are definitely heading to a place where we've got to get to that. So I don't have a problem with this implementation like at all. This isn't them going. I'm only making 15 apes and you got to get your sad ape. That isn't this. Yeah. This is more like, hey, it's your work. And down the road, we're going to be, we're going to essentially, you know, we'll have ownership and we'll have, we'll be able to sell this thing. But you get a piece. Everyone gets a piece, whatever piece they should get. Now, whether that negotiation is the right level of, of peace or anything, like I don't know. I don't know if that, if they've done.

and all that due diligence, but, but the back end tech for this is not the problem. It was how people were trying to scam each other. Yeah, I was trying to make a fast buck off of it. And that's why I think that Chip Mosier, who's one of the people that it's involved with this, really feel like they, they know where they're going. Chip goes all the way back. If you guys remember back in the day, you used to be able to get like a thousand comic books on a DVD or a CD.

He was one of the people behind that idea of first putting comics. digitally onto a CD that you could buy. So he's been in this world for a long time. And again, for those of you that know what an NFT is, you're sitting there going to know what you're describing as an NFT. But if you are somebody that's lost track of NFTs, you don't care for it, but you suddenly hear, oh, I have this digital proof that this signature is from Jim Lee,

and that is attached to this comic book cover that he also sketched. And this is a unique or limited edition, very much like blind bag variants that we can go get at the store today. And I can resell that, maybe make some money off of that. Or if I'm done reading it, I don't want to read this series anymore. And I just want to get rid of it. But I could possibly make 25 cents off of it. That's great. And Jim Lee is going to get a cut.

DC will get a cut. Neonichi button, get a cut. Then that sounds like a legitimate use of that NFT token, that blockchain token that that's there. So I kind of like this idea. Ian in the chat says, I'm sorry, but reselling digital will never take off. I'd be curious why he thinks that. Send us a message because I'm really curious about that. As we as we eke more into a society that is so digitally based,

and I mean goods and services and everything in between. Your video games, you're not getting physically, you typically not getting physical media for your video games. Yeah, I don't. Wasn't there not too long ago, Scott, where you couldn't resell your video game DVD, because there was a digital something or other that the companies put on it? Wasn't that a thing? Yeah, there was, and there still is in some cases.

And the truth is, like everything you buy on, like, say, Steam or Nintendo's online store or Sony store, anybody's store, you don't really own that stuff. Right, it's a license. It's a license to play it, and they could pull it at any minute, and it's protected to the point that if you lost your account, or they canceled your account or banned you for some reason,

you would lose access to everything you ever paid for. You own none of that. So if the future is going to have more options for consumers, it needs to come up with ways to handle this. So the reselling of digital goods makes sense if this technology is applied to it because it's not only the tracking part of it, but it's also the scarcity part of it, exactly. So, yeah. And so here's the thing. Even if the reselling of the digital never takes off, you still now have a all-in-one comic book, digital comic book store, neon Ichibon. You can get your comics from and you've got it all in one app or one website as opposed to four or five different apps that are out there. Right. And think of it this way. So if I draw something, it doesn't matter what. Let's say I draw a zombie. And for whatever reason, it becomes popular. And I only did it digitally. And no prints. And I sell it. to somebody for $100 and they down the road that thing has become more popular and it's now worth $200. That guy can sell it for $200. He can make money on his investment. But because of the way that

blockchain stuff works, anybody else gets paid to that should get paid, including me. I will get some whatever that is, some original credit for that. Right now it's just willy-nilly. Take my JPEG and run. like it's just not there's there are no rights protections when it comes to creators and so I'm just saying there needs to be something is this it I don't know but it's as close as we have right now and because it has the stink of NFT on it people automatically shut it down and listen you'll find no greater hater of NFTs than me I freaking hated that shit and I would I would told everybody involved at every step of the way don't do it stay away from it this is all scam this is bad but that underlying tech wasn't the problem. It was dicks on the on the upside making it a problem. So I'm just saying there's got to be a way there will be a way at some point

whether it's this or not. I don't know. That's how it's going to go. Yeah. And I don't know again, I don't know if Neon Ichibon's main focus is the resellability because if you download your comic let's say Dynamite Entertainment allows you to download the

PDF version of that, you can't resell it. So that makes it sound like Neon Ichibon wants you to have control of your collection in the way that you want to have control of it, whether you want to resell it or if you want to download and keep it yourself. If they did, if they were only interested in the marketplace portion of this, then they wouldn't create an, uh, an incentive for people to be able to download the comic and print it out if, if it's a DRM free PDF. Right.

Um, so again, I think that this is probably for people looking for the next comicsology, this is the way to go. And if you don't want to sell your digital comics, you don't have to sell them. Yeah, hang on to them. Keep them forever if you want. I'm curious about this. They don't know about that. They don't currently have, they've shut down early access, the waitless. So apparently

got enough interest in that that they have it on hold right now. They're maxed out. Yeah, they maxed out on that. They need a wait list to get on the wait list, though. They do. You can actually, if you go ahead and like, if you click on the login button, it'll ask you to create an account and then it'll say, okay, we've got you on the list.

Oh, cool. And I think you still may be able to access some of their digital, um, exclusives on, on launch day with that. Okay. So there's kind of a way to literally be. Yeah, but let me tell you this. If you do sign up, uh, unless you clear your cash, it will remember you whenever you come back and still say, sorry, Scott, you're still on this wait list.

Okay. Well, that's fun. So if you try to sign up under, you know, if you, uh, so I signed up under my personal email account. And then I tried to sign up again under the, major spoilers and it still remembers my major spoilers email account is the last attempted login it's like settle down son

we'll let you in when we're ready and it's like well if I log in under my other one I have access to them to everything you could probably VPN it and fool it but yeah it's doing IP checking and stuff so yeah yeah yeah yeah so I mean it's an alternative I don't know again it sounds like Scott you are

interested in this I don't I don't know what do you think Brian are you interested in this definitely interested in checking it out once it once it becomes I'm you know now that I know i can create a login at least see some of the examples of it the um having an app is going to be the the killer proposition for me i want to see how well the app works how easy it is to use but um but not being limited to just the stuff that i get in the marvel unlimited app and kind of moving over to something that's got a bigger base of um publishers uh love that yeah love that idea of

i like i like it too and doesn't we don't know about we don't know about we don't know what their model is for subscription or anything like that, right? We don't know if it's perfect. I haven't seen anything for a subscription right now. It's just a test out the single issue purchases. Yeah, which was what Comicsology's thing was. And then they introduced their, you know,

Amazon introduced the monthly basic thing. It doesn't give you a lot, but it's okay. It's all right. That's one advantage I think DC and Marvel have with their subscriptions is they have a huge backlog, but they're not great about new stuff. So maybe there's a mix here that'll work for everybody.

As always, getting this great information from Stephen is not only easy and fun, you can go do it yourself at major spoilers.com. What's going on over there that people should know about? Well, Scott, we are in the middle of spooky season. I know it's September, but, you know, that started two weeks ago. And so every week between now and the end of October, we've got a spooky trade paperback or series of comics to discuss on the Major Spoilers podcast. You can check those out every Wednesday morning wherever fine podcasts are served.

and there you go All right Should I drink This time of year Are we better on? Well yes We've got October Fest Coming up this weekend

Here in Hades So there's definitely going to be some drinking going on But I think what you're saying is Scott is that everyone Should drink some water And stay hydrated I think that's right

I think that is what I'm saying Even at your October fest Alternate beer water Beer water Brian when's your When's beer fest Soon right? It's no not till October

I thought it was sooner For some reason 11th October 11th So about a month a little, actually, yeah, less than a month away, like three weeks away. I guess that makes sense. I don't know why I thought that it was earlier. It's October.

It's like October Fest, basically. It's like October Fest, yeah. I mean, there's really does take place in October. It used to be Labor Day weekend, and they have slowly, like, over the past 10 years, moved it later and later and later and thank goodness. Sure. Makes sense. I got in the mood yesterday and drew this skeleton man with his skeleton dog.

Yeah. Funny you did that. Like, I was, we've got these skeletons. I went and bought the three-yard skeletons, not the massive ones that, you know, dwarf the house, but the ones that are like actual human-sized. And I've been trying to figure out,

all right, how am I going to arrange them this year? And we were at the store. We were at a place that sells a ton of Halloween decorations, and they had dogs. And I was going to do one of them walking the dog and the other two skeletons, like jumping in fear from the skeletal dog.

Maybe love it Like jumping into the arms of the other one or something We will require photos of your efforts Yes, there will be as soon as it's done You'll get that I like the huge ones I just have nowhere to keep those Yeah, that's a thing

They're massive So what are you going to do But you have to have special storage For these like 12 foot giant things There's somebody up the block Who has two of them And they go all out for Halloween They seriously must have a storage

locker somewhere where they put all their skeletons, their coffins, their, you know, giant bats. I mean, they have like a dozen massive things that they put out in the yard. Yeah. Our neighbors who do that have a shed they built just for all their stuff. And they keep all year stuff. And they do Fourth of July stuff. They do Christmas. They do that.

And then the whole neighborhood clogs up traffic right there. Yeah. Trying to get past kind of drives me nuts if I'm honest, but whatever. there's one about five minutes away from me that has the giant skeleton and they just decorate him they just redecorate him for different times of the year so he had a he was dressed like a leprechaun for a while really just like a green hat stuck to his head and and holding a clover and then they had back to school and now he's dressed up as Denver Bronco jersey like they're really creative in their massive clothing for this giant skeleton I love it all right guys we're going to do some of your email some of your feedback. Check this out. We got one from Sieb. Remember Sieb? Remember Seab? Yeah. Like wondering about the, when did tree something happen? Yeah. And you'd think, well, he'd write in and go, oh, sorry, guys, voice to text, you know. The kind of stuff really bumbles up. You never know. Auto correct. Really screwed me. Sorry. Yeah. Nope. We got something just as stupid.

Seab says, hi. His is Seab again. And you, period. know me period great all right I see you know we are no further down the seab no exactly than we were before

all right we know if anything we know less about seam now than we did before yeah so I tried to okay so his is sieb I think he means this again and you know me period know me so apparently thinks that you know him

you just don't know you don't know him as Sieb maybe maybe you know him as something else. Well and it came to the TMS one so I think he knows us he knows the Royal Wee yeah but I don't but do we know him I mean I don't know who that is though who do we have in the chat that's like close to Sieb right

Sirenx some other Sean Bloom is a Seab Shob feels like feels like Sean could be dinking with us a little bit you know could be who knows Getting shaned in the night?

I don't know. I don't know what to make of it. But here's another one from Gary of Lantronics fame. Oh, good, yes. He says, hey, it's Gary, the senior geek here. I'm glad to hear somebody is reading my substack columns at senior geek.substack.com. I do read them. They're great.

You know, he's ranty and it's fine. I like it. I like his rants. I don't ever recall dressing up as the character from any Jurassic noun movies, meaning any of the park movies. Park, World, Dominion, sure. I think you may be thinking of the time I dressed as Dale Horvath from The Walking Dead. That is what I was thinking of.

Yeah. Somebody did. Somebody did an Artacular one year dress up as the Jimmy Buffett character from Jurassic World running around carrying the two margaritas. Yeah, I don't remember who that was. Oh, was it, um, was it, uh, Daryl? Maybe it was Daryl. Oh, that could have been Daryl. Oh, I don't know.

I don't remember. Yeah. He only did that. I don't think he only cosplayed one of the years, Daryl did. And I think that was it. He did a Star Trek. He had a Star Trek uniform that I posed with him for a photo. Oh, I forgot.

Of course he did. But then there was a separate one where I think it was him. Yeah, Matthew Sarge. LeSargey remembers it. Says, I remember that guy, N15 or N17. Yeah, I don't know who it is then. Yeah. If it's you and you're listening, write in and tell us.

Yeah, maybe it was Sieb. It might be Sieb. Yeah. You never know. No. Yes, cosplay is a thing at Nerdtacular, Zoe. There'll be one this year or next year. That's all right. I made a big deal out of that of this thing because this hotel also houses a bunch of folks for FanEx next week or this week. And I said, so a lot of the time of the year, you guys are very businessy here.

And she's like, yeah. And I said, but then that comes. And then you guys got a bunch of nerds and black t-shirts or cosplay. People walked around like Spider-Man. She goes, oh, yeah. And I said, and how do you feel about that? And she goes, oh, we love it. And I went, okay, good. Because we're going to have a lot of black t-shirted people, maybe some dressed up as Spider-Man. We don't know. Glad to hear you say that, because as a matter of fact, but you know what? Yeah, no, I think somebody, it was the plaza folks said that we are so much more polite

than the typical convention groups that they get in there. Like we, you know, if we need something that they might have screwed up in our room, we're nice about it. And we're like, hey, my water coming out of my tap smells like sulfur. And instead of like, you need to move me out of this room right now. Don't you know who I am? We don't get overdrunk and break anything. We don't like wreck rooms. Exactly.

Exactly. I hear the Germans. Sure, there might be a bra left in an elevator here and there. But so what? I was going to ask, Stephen, about this. Speaking of Germany, the Marvel's moving all of Marvel Comics, like the comics division, is moving to Germany out of out of Georgia? Really?

Yeah. I just heard about this. I didn't realize this in Georgia. I thought it was still in New York. Yeah, no. I think, I know D.C.'s in New York. I don't know where Marvel was before this, but they've been in Georgia forever. There was something going on with that.

Yeah, I don't. I wish I knew the details, but I was going to ask him. I forgot. Anyway, he goes on to say, these days I am no longer Gary from Lantronics, nor am I Gary from the Woody Lot or even Gary from Batu. I am just mostly Gary the retired lazy bum when I'm not out. manning an invisible table at rally against fascism or waving a sign at a no king's demonstration dude's active he's a he's a he's a true hippie do you think he meant he wrote indivisible table

but i bet you're right manning an invisible table well no maybe maybe is it indivisible table i don't know oh is there a company maybe indivisible that he he mans their table for them i don't know no idea it's he capitalized it so maybe he does yeah he did actually yeah plus i does an invisible table need manning. Isn't that just sitting? I think it's just sitting. Yeah. I don't like you have to man anything, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, thank you, Gary. It's just always good to hear from Gary. This is always good. Yeah. It was an email I didn't want to let them slip through the cracks. Listen to post show today.

You guys are going to want to do that because after the song, there is an old 2020 mashup called What's His Power compilation, which is likely, I'm guessing I haven't checked it, but I'm sure it's me saying, hey, Brian, what's his power? And Brian telling me. Yeah, the Stanley impersonations. Yeah. So if you're looking for...

If you're looking for like three minutes of that, coming your way by way of Jamie. Big thanks to him. Yep, today's your day. Brian, let's go. If you're not looking forward to it, you better listen to it because it's hilarious. Yeah, it's real good stuff.

Real quick note, frogpans.com slash TMS. Big stuff coming in the nerdtacular site. That will start showing up today. Watch for it. I can now put all a bunch of details now that the contract sign. uh that i couldn't before and we're just going to start building that thing out and uh before you know it all hell breaks loose so uh watch for that it's uh don't forget community rules all right and you're part of it so we're going to make that happen uh all eyes on the nerd tacular uh

site frogpans.com slash nerdtacular uh brian you got anything else before we play a song no that's it we should play a song that's it let's play a song this one uh you know it's appropriate for colorado today we're about to get a ton of rain uh good good good Glitch wrote in and said, anytime this week is fine as my wife's birthday is the 26th. Hello, screech and bang, I get it. I try to expand everyone's knowledge of random

bands that you can't play, i.e. Ghost data, dream eater. Dang good song, though, but I digress. My lovely lady loves savior of my life is having another spin on this earth. So, let's hear a great cover of the band Garbage in her honor, and I'm so grateful for being able to spend

another year with her. Oh, love that. you know what I realized I did I might have put the wrong version of the song in let me see who I put in because I saw that he wanted a cover of Only Happy When It Rains and I don't know if I if I saw the note that he had on which version he wanted me to play oh gotcha um the version was yeah I put in the nickel bag version so you're going to hear only happy when it rains by leather strap um okay yeah all right then um and and uh and i'm just gonna get that in there before it goes over to scott to add to the end of the show i don't know who is this band tell me more you're asking me to tell you something that i don't even know oh you don't know

never mind you don't need to apparently they're not on iTunes oh this might be this might be difficult glitch why do you do this to me why do you pick stuff that uh well he's called glitch so he's called glitch. Here we go. Leather strap is they're with Cleopatra records. They're produced by Claude Larson. Sweet. There is a video on YouTube that is going to be the source of the audio if I can't find it on Amazon or iTunes. We'll see. You can't send

me a link if that's easier. I can pull it out. Oh, I will do that. Yeah, super easy. Oh, and they spell leather differently. It's L-E and that A-E thing. Maybe that's why I didn't see them on iTunes. Anyway, leather strip, only happy when it rains going out to Gug-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Gitch. The music industry is revolved with misogyny. I know I can't appreciate it

I'm only happy when it rains You know I love it when the hands is bad Why is so good to feel so sad I'm always happy when it rains For your misery town For your misery down One day For your mystery town

I'm only happy when it rains I feel like good with things are going on I only listen to the sad and sad songs I'm only happy when it rains I only smile in the dark. My only comfort is the night gone black. I didn't accidentally tell you that I'll only happy when it rains. You'll get the message by the time and through

When I complain about me and you I'll only happy when I raise For your misery town For your misery down On me For your misery town For your misery town On me

I'm only happy I'm only happy when it rains you want to hear about my new obsession I'm learning how you're going to deep depression In Caucasia I'm only happy wedding race I'm only happy wedding raised I'm only happy way in race I'm only happy when it rates

I'm only happy way and race All over some mystery town a bit I'm going to have been I'm only happy one and praise Happy what you pray For your misery town For your misery town Monday

For your misery town For your misery town For your mystery town Monday For your memory town For your memory town One day Go on your mystery town

Go on your mystery town You're your messer weekend Love me This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes, get more at frogpans.com. Greg, what are you so sore about?