The Morning Stream - TMS 2896: Donkey Sean

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

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Hello everyone and welcome to TMS, the morning stream for Wednesday, October 1st. 2025. Oh, man, October is here. We're here. We're a brand new month. I've replaced. We'll see your calendar. Let's look.

Let's see it. It's, uh... Oh, it's your thing. Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy guitars, and isn't that the same thing? Oh, that's adorable. That's my, my October calendar page. You know what? It's funny.

I think of, um, this is a weird thing. I've never really thought about it until just now. I think of October as good acoustic guitar month. Hmm. I like that kind of music in, in the month of October for some reason it matches up. I don't know why. It's interesting. I've been listening to it.

I've been listening to it. I've been listening to, like, guitar instrumental stuff. I've been listening to old, like, folk music from the 70s, 60s that is, like, mostly backed by, you know, string guitars. I don't know why that happened, but every October, I start doing that. Maybe there's something, there's some sort of subliminal, the warm sound of the wood and, you know, in the, in the guitar, the acoustic, the crunch of leaves. There's some combination there of something. Yeah, there's something there. And also, I think that's kind of...

Yeah. Summertime feels like it's more of the... Yeah. Yeah. More electric. Right, exactly. Deeper grooves. Yeah, for whatever reason, I think maybe I was just raised on it more. Like, during that time, my parents would play that kind of music, maybe.

So now it's just something I just naturally gravitate to. And I haven't this thing with music lately where I just don't know what I want to hear right now. And this right now, and this is now filling kind of the hole. But prior to this, I was just bouncing from one genre to another, one decade to another, modern, old, everything in between, every genre you can think of, and just not finding what I needed. And that's a weird feeling given how much choice we have, you know? Yeah, it's almost like we have too many choices right now.

Because I'm finding that, you know, one of my favorite artists put out an album a couple weeks ago, a release that I'd been waiting for, and I listened to it, you know, three or four times and then it was like oh crud you know now this um lola young's brand new album just came out or um new ed shiren just came out and the new sabrina carpenter and i'm finding that's like i can't keep up with all the things i want to listen to and that favorite artist album is like is languishing like oh no i need to get back to it i want to listen to it some more yeah it's weird it's weird you'd like it very acoustic guitar it's uh rainy sunday afternoon or right rainy sunday morning Randy Sunday afternoon by The Divine Comedy.

Oh, I bet I would like that. I will check that out. I think you would like it. Yeah, I'll check that out. Is that the same Lola that just passed out on stage and now she's canceling all her stuff? Yeah. I'm worried about her, man. She all right? I am too.

I know. Like, this was a big festival for her and to have her do that. I hope it's not something chronic that she's not paying attention to. Because she doesn't look like she's, she looks like she's more the punk rocker type that is like, is like, ah, whatever, I'm feeling crummy, but I'm just going to keep on going, get through it. Yeah, it seemed like even like she was feeling off in the thing and just kept going and going and going to go and they passed out.

Exactly. Yeah. That video was rough. It was hard to see. But I like that, you know, I like her whole vibe. She's great. Yeah. That song, Dealer is just fantastic. Dealer and. What's a really popular one? Let's see. It's the one where she's doing the video where she's in a room. And they start breaking a cake apart. yes I'm right

um she's I don't know to where I've been right that's exactly the one I can't think of the stupid song

um exactly yeah she's arguing that her her love interest keeps wants her to be too smart but she's being

she then calls her too dumb and does this yeah you're too clever you're too dumb messy messy messy something clean and then there's a radio version

and a F word version and the radio the radio version is Van's favorite song Oh really? He loves it Freaking anytime we're in the car Oh there's two songs he loves

That and Outfield's Your love? Yes He wants to hear that All the effing time in the car He loves it so much That's because the lead singer Of the Outfield

Actually has the vocal range of Vans oh there you go yeah he's got this thing let's say the dick clark balls never dropped for that guy that's right but man that that new lola young album is great and um the the song that gives it its title uh it gives its title it's not it's not the title track

as it doesn't use uh effing myself but it's it's not like that anymore that is such a great song that was the song that got me hooked on lola young i saw it uh cochella or something she's really good i I hope she feels better, and this isn't anything serious. Yeah, let's hope. I forgot garbage day, and I feel like I'm going to get in trouble later.

Oh, no. Yeah. Kim comes home today. The great Kim inning happens today. She comes home. And we're very excited. It's all good. I did the dishes.

I've kept the place intact, all these things. But then it hit me this morning. I went, oh, crap. I've got cans full of garbage and forgot Tuesday was garbage day. I totally spaced it. week of trying to fit more garbage into full cans basically nothing she hates worse than when we miss garbage day she hates it she loves when we're on time with that that's a big deal around here and now we've got you know excess three three dog night dog poo i haven't i've nowhere to put

except in a can let it fester for another week oh i mean i put it in bags but still yeah yeah yeah of course anyway we'll see how she does brian big day for brian today you guys what's going on Yeah, this is the official launch day. I've been teasing this thing. I even talked about the soft launch a couple days ago. But today is the day. Rock Puzzles Monthly is now officially live. Patreon.com slash rock puzzles monthly.

This is a deal where you get five, at least five puzzles a month from me, handmade, handpicked, hand-designed, all themed around music. And this just kind of marries two of my loves, music and puzzles. and trivia and making people think and that aha moment. I mean, I talk about how I had a games magazine with me at all times when I was a kid and I'd

do the, you know, I'd race to do the cryptic crossword first or the searches, the word searches, things like that. So it is up and running. There's a free sample puzzle. If you go to patreon.com, I've basically moved or added

the same thing that was on rock puzzles monthly.com over at patreon slash or patreon.com slash rock puzzles monthly so you can download the puzzle there and join the discord and all that stuff so go check it out sign up be you know help get me out of the uber people that's really the goal of this is too i'd rather spend if i'm going to spend three hours doing something a few times a week i'd much rather use that time designing cool puzzles for you guys than driving Joe Schmo to the Trader Joe's. That was no pun intended. No, no, no.

But all the Joe's in the world, they have to go to Trader Joe's. They have to at least once a month or else they lose their Jonas. Yeah, you lose your Joe card. Yeah. Yeah, you should put links to all that on this main page to the Patreon. Yeah, I haven't done the, the, I did Facebook. I did like, I did Daily Music Headlines this morning, then raced over to do Tad Pooley feud and figure out everything, all the different.

ways people type the same shit come on people um and then i had enough time to um do a post on the patreon page and do socials pointing the patreon page but yeah now i need to do rock puzzles monthly dot com and say oh i also need to do the hub spot all the people who signed up for the the email i need to send out the mass email oh right let everybody know about it right right lot going on check it out rock puzzles monthly now live now live uh patreon dot com slash rock puzzle monthly. Monthly. Exactly.

Thank you, sir. Yes. Let us now move to a bit of a thing that we do. Although there he is here. Oh, great. We can just pull them right in. This will be fantastic. Let's get that going.

Let's see if we can go ahead and hit this button here. All right, here we go. Join us in welcoming Brian Dunaway back to the fray. Been gone for a couple days. How you doing, man? We missed you, buddy. Yeah. You work today?

Where are you? I'm going to work. Yeah, I work today. I'm not at work, but I work today, yes. Oh, I'm going to set this to the lower. There we go. Set that right. Where did you end up going? You were somewhere. I can't just write puzzles, you know, and make a living.

We all can't do that every day. Yeah. We'd like to. Yeah. We're set to go a J job. Where'd you go? Where'd you go? Some were fun or boring?

It was work. It was work related. No, it was exciting. It was about a cybersecurity and the state of IT. Oh, that's what I do during the day. That's very exciting. No wonder you're so good at trivia. I don't know what that means.

I'll just go ahead and say it. No wonder you're so secure. Yeah, no doubt about it. Well, it's good to have you back, man. All my cybers are secure. That's right. Keep your cybers in during the ride or else you'll lose them. We're not responsible if you lose any cybers.

By the way, too many people are shortening cybersecurity to cyber, and I don't like it. Oh, I don't like that at all. No. No, let's put an end of that. all right i don't like anything shortened to cyber anything short to cyber cyber sex cyber uh space don't call anything this is the problem i got to know is it cyber sex cyber security yeah now you have now you don't know because they say hey you want to do some cyber and you're like excuse me no no no i want to do security yeah right right all right brian

explain these rules so we know what we're playing today how is this going to go if i can i mean geez what level of patron is that that's right to get the rules you have to be patron level three it's time to play the tadpooly feud I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics and Scott and Brian can have to break the answers that they gave us it is their job to see how many

those answers they can guess the player with the most points at the end of the game wins the prize for their contestant and I've pulled contestants from our supporters in Patreon at patreon dot com slash TMS I say I have really Scott has Scott you're going to be playing for

Luke McKeon. Luke and then Brian, you're going to be playing for Robert Queener. Robert Queener. Is Robert Queener are one of our male postal workers? I think. Oh, maybe he is. Maybe that's one of our guys.

I know, I know we have a Robert that is a, um, let's see, maybe not. Robert Queener sounds like a guy that wins every chess match he ever does. He ever plays, you know? He's queen and her. cool well anyway there we go those are who you're playing for now let's do let's commence the playing excellent um put your hands on your buzzers and give me your best answer oh hold on it's trying to reconnect to the server there we go and give me i have my hand ready okay hold on okay all right you get a cramp yeah you getting a cramp uh we asked 472 tadpoolers name a way to say thank

you in a different language scott German. Let's see if it's up there. Show me, Donka-Shane. That's funny. Your name's skip through me because I'm like, oh, wait, skip and bragan. I don't want to skip this one, but very good. That is the number one

answer, Duncan. And thank you, Wayne Newton. And congratulations. You have control of the board. The board is yours. Let's see here. Now it gets, this is a thank you. It's not the same as hello or welcome.

Yeah, so you can't, you can't depend on your, uh, your Apple, uh, start. No, that's what I was thinking of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's literally what I was thinking about when you're shutting down. Exactly. Shutting down. There's always a little part of me that worries when I do that, that if I don't, um, click, continue while it says hello in English. Yeah.

That whatever language it's in is what language it's going to set my phone to. Yeah. Wow, this is hard now. Um, hard. Harder than I thought I was going to be. Well, let's start that time. I'll see if it gets easier.

Oh, oh, the French. The French say merci be very much. Very much. Very much. All right. Show me. Melsie Bocut.

Yep. Number four answer on the board, taking you five points. Moshamp. I'm all out. I'm going to say, Domo auregato, Mr. Roboto. I don't know.

Okay. All right. Show me. Domo arugato. Oh, what? That's thank you. Is it? Okay.

Thank you very much, Mr. Robato. That's right. Exactly. Yes. Arigato, uh, on its own is thanks. And then you can couple it with domo or gozaimasu depending on like the, um, I'm going to get this wrong, I'm sure, but like the level of, of respect or the level of respect or the, not a respect, but the level of

formality that you need to have in there. Gotcha. Okay. I should know the Korean one, but I only know dirty words in Korean. Give us one of those. It's all my brother ever taught me. Just give us a dirty word. I could. I could say bracha, or I could say poji, or I could say

Bangu. No, that's fart. Anyway, I know all the dumb words. Let's see. In China, what do they say? I think that's please. I had to learn some basics in China when I was there so I could communicate.

Timers getting what happened to it. Oh, look, I just clicked it. There it is. Thank you, Brian. Freaken, but Borca, Borka, Borka. I got, there you go. Borka, Borka, Bork, show me Borka Borka.

Amazingly enough, it's not on there. Wow. All right, Brian. What have you got? Yeah. How about some, how about some grassy ass? Yes, yep. Muchus scratchy ass. Carcius.

Show me. Gracias. Now, duh. Number two. Duh, that's Russian for, yeah. Damn it. Wait, Russian. What is Russian?

Anyway. I know, exactly. You said, duh, duh. Yeah. That's Russian. They never, I was just thinking, in Russia, Russia, Russia, in Russia, we don't have word for thank you. F off is what we say. That's right.

All right. Is donk? Is it that like, is that short for Donkey Sean or is that Donkey Sean? Donkey Sean. I was trying to read it at the same time when I was looking at it because I was trying to think.

We have three donkey shons in the chat room right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, season one of all. How about, oh, I know, I know. How about thank? Just the word, just the word thank. I'm pretty sure we didn't come up with thank you. so I think somewhat it's got to be a derivative right probably okay yeah probably

somebody says tank I guarantee you somebody says tank or tank or something tank tank well what are you using what are you what are you giving me you've given me three answers you're going with thank or tank well I like the fact that you recognize this I'm going with tank all right okay show me show me tank I'm kidding I would have given you a strike on both of those by the way. I just wanted to. All right. What do we do when we're in, uh, we're in, uh, Italian country. People say, when you're in olive garden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You say, hey, hold on. I got to get in the right brain's place for this. It's like, forget about it. It's a, it's a, hey. Oh, shit. I'm, I'm starting to think that I don't hear enough, uh, other language that's

telling me, thank you. I think I just know, you don't get it. Is it grot? Grot. Gron. right hey gratsy that's congratulations oh it's not the same as thank you it doesn't matter well in my case it doesn't yeah we'll say grotzy I think that's wrong what is it badpool think yeah what is the tadpole think I'll say grotzy right exactly

all right show me good at see it totally is thank you yeah I thought it was congratulations all right like gratsy on your way you're thinking of grats you're thinking of grats in internet's Yeah. Barron's chat. Yeah. Yeah. Gratz, man. Gratz. Gratz. Gratz on your ding. Yeah.

All right. Wow. I'm a little shocked. I know. Surprised me little. I know. The side of the board is full now. Congratulations. You guys have gotten the top five. Scott's got 13 to Brines 2 for those of you listening without watching. All right. There's a thing the Chinese. When I was in China, there was a thing they would say that sounded like they were saying the N-word. I'm not going to do that one. Well, it's kind of pronounced like you'd say N-E-G-G-A. Yeah, like the actress Ruth Nega. Yes, thank you. There's the use case that we can say out loud without. I just feel like I'm, there's a like a, the slope has never been more slippery where I'm standing on when I try to say that.

Yeah. So I'm going to say that the other thing they would say, they would say that twice. No, they'd say, let's say she-she and then that word twice. And I don't know if that was what I think it is, but I'm going to go ahead and put. it in there, Chinese Shee Shee or Shee She or I don't know how you spell it. Show me the name of the Shannon Sharp podcast. Shea Shee Shee, Club Shea, yeah, Shaysay, Mandarin Chinese.

Oh, they really, they phonetically did it there. Yeah, phonetically, yeah. I don't know how it's spelled. Some people, some people did X-I-X-I and some people actually copied and pasted the Chinese characters, which entered a whole new level of me having to copy and paste that into Google and make sure that that was what that was because there were a lot of funny characters in the

the survey responses that I had to see if, okay, is this the same thing that, you know, somebody else put? I'll go, I'll go Norwegian, not we're Norwegian, but I'll go like up there. Nordic, you know, area zone. Scandinavian might be the word of looking for it.

And I don't know who would have it, but let's say, let's just give you, I'm making this up. It's going to be, uh, door coot. Dorcute, all right. No idea. Show me, Dorcuit. Didn't make the top 11, but, uh...

I'm sorry. Did someone say, or Dorcout? Please tell me they did. I'm looking to see. I'm looking to see. If that happens, I'm going to be stoked. Nobody said, nobody said doorcute. Damn it.

Actually, I'm looking to see here. If there's anything that could, could translate to Dorcute. Nope. just pulled that out of my ass uh it was it was a nice pull brian back over to you scott's got 20 points to your two you need to start making some points here it's no problem i'm super desperate so i opened up the chat room while scott was rattling on you bastard and uh i can't pronounce any of these things these people are saying so i'm gonna go with cheers because i actually can say that one so thank you chat room cheers ah cheers it's not really a different language but it

kind of is hey and you're literally being filmed before a live studio audience right now so this is great That's right. Cheers. I've been watching a lot of it. Yeah. All right. Well, it's the tadpull. It doesn't matter if it's real or not.

Show me. Cheers. Didn't make the top 10, but it did. It was an answer from people tied for 19th place is cheers. Okay. I'm so out. You guys have two strikes each. Scott, again, leading 20 to 2.

We did Spanish. I wonder if there's a Portuguese version of the Spanish one. Or if there's any of these have multiple. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Timers start.

It's time for timers. It's time for timers. Heidi ho. Heidi ho is my answer. Show me. Heidi ho. That's what I say when I'm thankful. No, I'm afraid not even anywhere in the list.

Brian, you've got one more guess. Well, you've got one strike left. So, and 18 points to make up to get to the tie. Ironic name says Icelandic is Tuck or T-A-K-K-K. I don't know how to say it. Taki. Tucky. Tosk-y.

Did you say that one? Hot little sticks. I don't know what it is. Is that what you're going with? Do Icelandic I have another guess? All right. quiz master quiz me this

all right show me tech yeah it's number six Swedish is what a lot of people put so I assume

that it it's Swedish I don't know if I see that as I'm checking out at IKEA but I think I do but they

spelled a TACK I've seen it TAKK don't don't well actually Mimi because I'm not saying

I know for sure but I took it so I think it's Is it all the Scandinavians or a lot of the Scandinavians go up there that do tack? I don't know. I've never heard it. So somebody says tack, I'm actually.

Norwayan, Norwegian. Okay. I should take that as a compliment if someone says tack to me. Tack. Yes. All right. I'll remember that. Dutch, Swedish, says Nicholas Carlson.

Okay. It seems so aggressive. Yeah. Tuck. I'm like a fallout game. Scott will remember this. Because it comes with an exclamation point like, wham. Oh.

Boy, they sure do. don't they? Tech. Do you ever remember that? Oh, that's a whole other story. I can't tell it now. Go ahead. Continue.

Sorry. It was a story about Wham. Were you planning on waking me up before you go, go? Yes. It'll happen later when you're asleep, so it'll all be fun. All right, Brian. Three more answers left on the board. Yep.

Obrugado. I don't know. Obrugado. I have no idea what language it is. I just see people thrown in chat room. And if I get any points. All right. All right.

Show me. Obrido. It is in Spanish. It's your number 11 bonus bonus answer. More like a, oh, a much obliged kind of thing, but also in Spanish. Like, thank you for that. All right. Damn it. I've heard that Aloha means everything in Hawaiian. Yeah. Yep. It means spam. It means Portuguese people are saying, okay, good. Wait, what? So they're saying, Obrugado's. Oh, Obrado. I thought you meant a Hawaiian thing.

Anyway, go ahead. That was something. I directly pulled from somebody's answer. They put obrigato Spanish, so I just used that. But okay, sorry, you were saying, Brian? Oh, man, I don't know. Everybody's screaming at me in the chat room now. And I don't know. They're saying Mahalo, but I don't think that's a word. Max says, domo obrigato.

I love it. It's fantastic. It's not Mahalo? Try it. Something broke. What was that? I don't know. I thought that was you guys. No, it wasn't me.

Wasn't me, wasn't Brian. Must have been you. Tech. Too late. You've already used it. Timer is starting. Timers going. Mahalo.

All right. Show me. Mahalo. Mahalo should have been up there because that is, you know, the Hawaiian wave saying thank you. Mahalo, oddly enough, Aloha was number 19. Aloha was higher than Mahalo. Yeah. Surprise the heck out of me.

Let's look at what these. Scott beat me even without the chance. chat room. I feel a little bit. Totally, totally did. Let's look at these last three. I thought for sure, once you start talking about Russian, you would remember. You would remember. Speciba. No. I would never remember that. No. Okay. No. In Finnish, apparently it's Kiltos or Kitos. Good Lord. Why you hide number nine, though? That's because I'm coming back to number nine because it requires visual description. The American science. language yes that is that is putting your hand your your your open palm on your mouth but I didn't and then coming forward yeah how would you if you would you have taken if we just said as the ASL yes I would have okay yeah dang it I thought about that and I thought there's no way this is on here shit yeah it's one of those and what's cool is that's a directional verb in sign language so if you're standing with a group of people and one person says something nice to you you point to

that person or you you do the the hand gesture towards that person so thank you so the whole room doesn't think you're thinking them right yeah we can't if you're up on stage you know when we're doing nerdtacular we're gonna go yeah all just constantly

it's constant with our both hands you all are gonna be so sick of seeing that by the time that thing's done some of the other answers just something I noticed here is the only finish word that can be pronounced by other people

is this word ketos the rest of it's all like effed up so I'm just saying hey I love our Finnish listeners you guys are amazing Congratulations. Thank you's your only pronounceable word. All right, Brian, continue. So I'm going to try and do these

as well as I can. Number 12 is just plain bowing, so bowing to somebody as opposed to saying anything. So another visual. Dankjul in Dutch. De Kudju in Czech. Deoch in Welsh in Welsh. Go rab meal math I got. And nobody put what language

that's from. Somebody put hola, or I'm sorry, Ola.la. Ola, Kenichiwa, and Aloha, which are hellos and in one case goodbye. Hello, hello, goodbye. And on Alan and Senderan, Bindank, by a donkey. I don't know what that is. Cheers, mentioned was in there. Chukran in Arabic.

Don Javad. Do you think about these questions before you toss them out there and think, oh, we're going to pronounce all these? I don't. Clearly, I don't. Diakuyuvan is Ukrainian. F-off in New York. Oh, okay. That's good. I like it. Foster's Australian for beer. And thank you.

Buddy. I love it. I love the idea that you'd say, hey, thanks for, or you did my lawn, Foster's. Right. That's how you say thanks. You are with honor. Oh, cling on.

Kling on. on. Gorn somnida. I'm sure I did that wrong. Gomsomni da. That's Korean. That's Korean. Damn it. Kamsamni Das, hello. Or, ah, shit. In Irish, it's thank you. And then finally, somebody wrote, my love language is gift cards.

Nice. I love it. That is great. Nicely done. Well done away, I think you made an avaliant effort. And I'm impressed with your prowess as a serve of names. I cowered back to the chat. room. I don't know if that was, but the chat room was amazing. That a lot of help that did did you. Yeah. Did you know good? It did you, it did get you tack, which is

great. Yeah. Congratulations, Scott. You won prizes for Luke McKean. I think it might be his barbecue Luke. I can't remember for sure. But anyway, I'll probably be corrected on that as well. He's getting a copy of Necro King and Heroes of Lute. Both excellent games. From good old games. But don't worry, Robert Queen, or you're not going away empty

handed, you're getting a copy of let's school. That one, I don't know a thing about. I'm sure it's good. I don't know, I love the title, though. Let's school. Yeah, let's school. I don't know. Who knows what it means, but he's about to find out because I'm going to send these codes to you via Patreon, watch for your DMs on there

and you'll get those shortly. Brian Dunaway, what a treat. Tonight we're doing Cuberd on the play retro. That's right. A little cussin guy. He's going to have a swear word. We'll find out if that is even a real word or not. There's a lot of deep dive stuff to talk about with that weird character. I love Hubert, so I'm excited.

Before I lose you guys, are either of you picking up, have either of you pre-ordered the Atari was a game station, the little handheld. This thing looks really cool. The new one, yeah. The new one that's got a knob and a rollerball

and a D-pad, a ton of buttons, and the number pad. Like every, every 2,600, 5,200, 7200, everything you could possibly want. looking at this thing saying, dang, I might have to pick what these. I pre-ordered that one and I pre-ordered the Atari Pac-Man. Oh, did you really? Plus. Yeah. We also have. There's some

there's somebody that was a very good impression of the way that things out. We have some people on the inside at Atari also who may be sending us some of that plus some of the BCS stuff and a few other things. So we're waiting to hear. We don't know yet. We have a connection who knew a dude at CES who may or may not be able to get us review units we'll find nice do you need do you need a very temporary coming for one minute

third host of play retro there are three hosts damn it send us three units well done away I can't wait to see it today at 4 p.m that's at frogpants dot TV and if there was only one other thing I would say to you it's kiss our butt all right he's out all right everybody well done I look at that thing

and man the the knob for playing Tempest but warlords also like I loved warlords what paddle on Atari 26. Yeah, it wasn't bad. It was a better version of that. Unlike the Pac-Man port, which was the garbage. God, it was just garbage. Garbage. Gar-Baggio. Really, really bad. All right. Hey, guys, guess what? It's time for us to bring our old pal Tom Merritt in here and play this for him. Isn't technology wonderful? I'll tell you what. It sure can be, but it requires one Tom Merritt. And when he enters the fray, boy, howdy, do we not know what we're doing? Tom Merritt,

welcome to the show. How the heck are you, sir? Oh, I'm glad you didn't say speaking. of garbage. It's time to talk to... Speaking of trash. No, not true at all. We love Tom. We love it when you're on here because, I don't know, you get your finger, you get your finger on that big, pump and pulse of tech. You're like, I don't know why. We just do. Yeah, you just do. You know, have you heard about AI? Yeah. It's a hot new thing, everyone. All the kids are talking about it. It's the thing that allows companies to up their prices. And now includes AI. and is 20% more expensive.

That's right. Yeah, sometimes that's true. Open AI has put out a new video creation model that it tops Google's V-O-3 by two seconds. V-O-3 can only do eight-second clips. Sora can do 10-second clips. So take that. Wow. And they have an app for mobile where you can share your creations.

with each other, as well as create a version of yourself to put in your own videos, and then you and your friends can put each other in each other's videos. So I've been having a little fun making videos with virtual versions of Justin Robert Young and Brian Brushwood and Andrew Main, and they have been doing that as well. And it's got that feeling of anything from Plurk, to Facebook in the early days, which is like, wow, a lot of people are doing this and sharing a bunch of stuff. But I have no idea if it's, you know, just a flash in the pan because it's new or what. It does show some pretty impressive capabilities in the ability to just say, like, make Brian Brushwood the Joseon King of ancient Korea and speak perfect Korean to me. And then I'll

be surprised. And then it doesn't. You know, it's, it's, it's pretty interesting. stuff. I had a Pokemon turn into a rocket and shoot cheese balls out of its butt. You can do all kinds of things. What else can you ask for? Here's the question I always ask about these things. Do you see, other than the novelty that it is at this stage, like it's, oh, wow, you can share this a friend and we can all be in the same video and like it has those hooks, right? But do you see any like, what are the long term applications? Is it just, hey, here's more data to train on, also here's some funny stuff you can look at, and this will, you know, nobody's really going to use us any workflows or figure out a way to harness it and any, you know, special business way or

whatever. What do you think about that? Sure. I think that what I, hmm, so that is a very complex answer. It is a very deceptively simple question, but it's a very complex answer. Yeah. Because we're talking about the SORA video model and this little app for you to share your creations. I think the app to share your creations is a way to get enthusiasts to mess around with this more and see what it can do. And one of the things, Andrew Main was saying this on the attention mechanism podcast, one of the things they have found is people want to put themselves and other people they know in it, which is why you often saw early unregulated versions of this making videos with public figures in it. it. And now they're trying to play by the rules. And trust me, I've played around with SORA enough that I've gotten dinged. I tried to say Brian Brushwood in a video. And it's like, no, you can't put a public figure in there without their permission. I'm like, but he's on this platform. I had to use

the proper At Shwood to put his little avatar in there. So it's very strict about that. But because you can do that, because you can bring others in, you're like, oh, well, let me make a funny, you know, a progressive insurance ad. with Justin and Brian in it and, you know, throw stuff together. You're more likely to make more of these and start to see what it's capable of. And that's the second part of my answer to your question, Scott, which is, once you do that, then people start to see, oh, I could use SORA in this application. I can see what it's good at and what it's not.

And it would be great for this 30 second commercial I'm making or a short piece in this short film that I'm making or stuff like that. Right. So the cynical among us might say, well, this is just giving them more training data. And while I'm not taking that position necessarily, that is a side benefit of this, right? I don't see how this is giving them more training data. Well, I guess what you're saying is because I scan myself in. Yeah, you're scanning yourself in. You're also including prompts that tell you what you want your dude to do.

I mean, you're essentially providing it. The prompt thing's the one that I object to. I'm like, so don't use any of them ever because that's exactly what all of these tools do is take your prompts. They have to. You know, that's sort of like saying, Google Maps is tracking me. It knows where I am because it's giving you navigation.

Yes, it has to do that to get you, you know, driving directions. To me, it's like, well, okay, so they're taking your prompts. Yes, that's, that's how, they have to take your prompts to do that. They don't have to, you don't have to scan yourself in to do this. So maybe there's something there where you're like, oh, they're going to ingest my face. and then that's going to be training data. But you may object to that, in which case, don't use this, right? Yeah, just don't use it.

But I don't know how much that is a concern. I guess where it could become a concern is if these are improperly used in a way to impersonate you, right? I don't think they're good enough to do that, honestly, at this point. And you control what, you know, do you just want friends of friends to be able to use you? Do you want everyone to be able to use you? Right. You have some controls over that. But that would be a question for OpenAI is like, if I am willing to say, everybody can use my thing to remix and use me in their videos, how do, what are you doing to prevent that from being misused?

Right. Yeah. Like I guess, yeah, I'm sort of just playing devil's advocate here. If you had somebody say, well, what's to stop, what is to stop somebody, I already know the answer to this because they're not allowing this sort of thing. But what is to stop somebody with a model like this of saying, all right, I'm going to take Scott's face, I'm going to put it on this dude, and now it appears that he's making out with a horse on the moon. And now I'm going to put that everywhere. That's probably not a good one because everyone knows. Right.

You need something that somebody could believe. Everyone knows you actually. Somebody doesn't know you. Yeah. Forget about the moon. Let's just say I'm on a farm and boyhouty and me and this horse going at it. You know what I mean? Or you saying, I eat babies or something like that.

Yeah, or whatever it is. Yeah. And you're actually eating a baby. Right. Right. How does, how do, I don't worry about what Open AI and Gemini and some of these guys do about that because they will have some rules and do already. But open systems that will continue to grow in advance, won't have that. Well, that's not the story.

I know it's not the story at all. I'm doing a little bit of a Roger here. But I guess what I'm saying is there's, I don't think there's a way to allay those people's fears as my, is my bottom line. Oh, sure. This thing is the thing you either use or you don't use. and you're overriding feelings about AI in the direction it's taking kind of it doesn't kind of matter what story we bring to the show you're going to probably feel that way I'm not trying to discount those concerns

but I'm like that those are other that those are first of all that's a concern with every technology is that somebody will make a version of it that is easy to misuse look at email we still haven't figured out how to stop email from being misused and I almost said but people haven't stopped using email, although people kind of have stopped using email in some ways. But not for that reason. It's more just from the actual legitimate emails you get being useless, I think, that causes people to stop using email. But my point being, you can misuse every technology. So if you're a concern about SORA is that something like it might get

misused, that's a concern with technology in general, not a concern with SORA. Yeah. The good news is if you thought Google's V-O-3, eight seconds, were not enough for you. Yeah, now you get 10. 10 seconds. Here's the thing with that V-O-3 stuff, and I wonder if it'll be true of SORA. I can recognize it within a second.

It doesn't take anything for me to know what I'm looking at. I see a TikTok video, and I go, I immediately know. I already have a visual vocabulary for Sora, and I've been using it for less than 24 hours, but everybody's a little too smiley. Their faces are a little too bright, You know, like their complexions are a little too dewy, I think. You know, like, and the movements, not always, but they're a little jerky sometimes.

Sometimes they're pretty smooth. Sometimes they're not. I made a video of myself coming out of a spaceship saying, I've done it, our cheese is safe. And I just, I look kind of like an old man, just like kind of jerkily walking down the ramp. Is that all cheese are just the one that's coming out of a Pokemon's butt? Which cheese? No, no. The cheese, that was a prequel to the podcast. Oh, okay. Well, I can't wait for the sequel. Yeah, it's interesting. I think that the, it's, what, one of my favorite things about this particular era of seeing this stuff advance. We went from the horrible Will Smith spaghetti eating to like what looks like actual Will Smith eating in his kitchen in very short time, right? Like it took about a year for us to go from, that's ridiculous to, that's too realistic. scary yeah um one of the fascinating bits about it is seeing how good human beings are at catching

patterns and recognizing these as artificial without having to do much other than see a few of them and you and and you start to we're just really good at that and i didn't realize how good we were so i know i know the race is to like make it so we can't someday like that's the i don't know whose goal it is but somebody's goal is that is to make it indiscernible but so far we're We're just catching it. It's not that hard. It's basically like as the prompting, the people's ability to create prompts is growing, their ability to recognize AI is growing to.

And thank goodness that it's kind of operating on the same level because you create your own AI stuff. And you're like, that's AI. I know it is because I created it. And you get the ability to recognize it. Well, think about this. When you see a clip from a movie, do you think that's real life? Or do you immediately go like, oh, it looks like it's from a movie?

No, exactly. realistic and as well done as it is there is something just about movies like there's a visual language around movies and we don't worry about the fact that we can make incredibly convincing looking movies be a problem and i think that's what this is going to be like is it's going to be very convincing we're going to think it looks great it's going to make entertainment better it's going to make video games movies tv shows better but hopefully there will still be a part of us that goes, yeah, but I know that isn't the same as, like, a real thing that happened. Yeah, ironic name of the chat says, Grandma on Facebook isn't good at it.

Yeah, we know. We know they're not good at it. But guess what we won't be good at? When Tom, me, and Brian are all 90, there's going to be something going on with the kids. And by kids, I mean, people under 50. And we're going to go, well, look, did you hear about the thing? And I'll call Tom, I can't believe. And he'll say, I know.

And we just won't know. Because that's age, that's what happens. Well, first of all, There's a live action Tupac Shakur in my assistant living room. Be careful saying grandma on Facebook doesn't know the difference because grandma on Facebook might be hacking you. If I were grandma, I'd be like, oh, you're underestimating me, fantastic.

But someone on Facebook may not know the difference, but they also don't know the difference between the text stuff, right? Like, that's a whole problem on its own as well. Yeah, and we need to do a better job as the grandchildren of Grandma and Grandpa and not letting them hack us. Yeah, and teach them. Show up, go to the

assisted living home, and sit down with them and go, that's not real. We have to train AI and we also have to train our grandparents. That's right. Stop spear fishing me, Grandma. It's not funny. Yeah. P.H.I. Grandma, spell it right. Anyway,

hey, we always enjoy these little chats, of course, about tech, emerging stuff, things that are going on, trends and whatnot. All of that is happening on the Daily Tech News Show Network. Tom, tell us more about what's coming up, if anything at all. Yeah, Jason Howell just went to Ireland on the dime of Enterprise Ireland, which is a division of the Irish government, in order to meet with a bunch of Irish startups in medical and sports tech. So we had the first of his segments in yesterday's show about a company that is making. a smart device that you wear behind your ear to help detect head injuries when you're playing

sports and protect you from them to say like you're at risk or this or that or your protection is working, your protection is not. And he's got a couple more startups that are interesting in that that sort of field of like tracking your health for sports reasons. We've got another one of those coming later this week and then one early next week. That's just one of the many great things you get when you subscribe to the daily tech news show. Look for it where fine podcasts are vended. We're going to do that, and I can't wait until I wear a football helmet that tells me, ah, you should be more careful when you're down there in the end zone. You know what I mean?

That'd be great. Now have a spice bag with your Guinness. Spice bags, baby. Tom Merritt is always good to talk to you. Ace Detect on all the things. Go check them out. We'll see you next time. Thanks, y'all.

We should have told him to send us some of those videos that he's made of himself. Oh, yeah. Yes. I'd like to see the cheese is safe. Yeah, please. We need to know that the cheese is safe. Oh, yes. Brian, let's do some emails.

I'd like to do that very much. Good. We got a quick thing to tell you about, though. I don't know if you heard about this, but Colorado. We had this happen in Utah recently, and it was like a huge deal because it never happened here. But even more rare, a tornado in Colorado is crazy rare, especially hitting a mountain. Yeah, no kidding. Usually, you know, those things are low-lying, flatland kind of monsters.

And this one actually hit sawtooth or hit near Sawtooth Mountain, which is, um not too far from where i was last night playing trivia in boulder oh shit yeah yeah pretty crazy but uh i mean our weather lately is just nuts but yeah been weird here too we had hail like the size of quarters for for like 30 seconds where i live and then just regular rain the afternoon it's really weird oh yeah it was probably trying to hit those dickheads who uh were chanting uh mormon slurs at the b y u team yeah not nice job guys that worked out great look i'm all in on team rivalries sure i'm also all in on general ribbings but man that was brutal be respectful i mean oh you can't catch as opposed to geez this is uh like it's some pretty offensive stuff and to the point where boulder's getting fined for it which yeah um i think is the right way to do it exactly um yeah Red Fact says Mormons have slurs. Absolutely, man. Look, I grew up in here in Mormon town. And, you know, it's funny. Here's why I don't think, you know, there are a lot of fears around Christian nationalism. I don't like it either. But here's the thing. There are so many versions in this country of what they think a Christian is. And I mean, every sect has their own version. And they all think they're right. They all think they're 100% right. they'll never come to any kind of conclusion.

You know, it's like saying, well, we need to have the, we need to have the Bible back in schools. Right. Okay, which one? What about the Quran? What about the Torah? Well, even beyond that,

it's like which version of the Bible are you going to put in there? Oh, right. Old Testament, New Testament. And who are you going to have interpret that? Are teachers going to be free to do interpretation? Probably not. Are you going to have a whole thing about how you interpret certain verses that are

controversial? And then if you do, how do you enforce that across the spectrum so that the other sex who think they're right about their interpretation also get on board it's never going to work is what i'm saying there's no single like there's no single thing it's so dumb it is really dumb anyway be nice to each other is all i'm saying so anyway tornado uh in boulder yeah yeah be careful out there uh brian high school story it's a shirt the story from an email from joe from plymouth minnesota and he says this yeah that's not Minnesota.

Yeah, it is. Amen. Amen. Yep. Hello, Hello, seat and blade. Hmm. Okay.

I don't know what that means. A memory... It'll make sense in a second. The memory sparked by the hair metal quiz. This is the one we did on last week's Tad Pooley Feud, I think. Or maybe it was half-asses. No, it was a music scramble that TMS smash-ups did, I think. Oh, so this would have been our Friday, Friday episode.

Yeah. So for those that didn't hear it, if you're not a patron, we did a whole quiz. on hair metal band stuff. Anyway, in high school, if you went to a concert, it was cool to wear the t-shirt from the show to the school the next day. That's true what we did too. Yeah, absolutely. Metallica may have changed the album title, but

they still sold shirts with metal up your ass on them. I remember the cool kids showing up wearing these t-shirts and that slogan in a picture of a toilet with a hand holding a dagger coming out of the bowl. The cool kids were asked to wear their t-shirts inside out for the rest of the day.

Love the show, though, Joe. Oh, geez. Yeah, I feel like that was, we ran into this a lot. If we wore our metal shirts and they were at all, like I want to say it was mostly Iron Maiden stuff. Yeah. Like a beast holding an axe or something. Yeah, exactly. It was a little bit, right.

This is not appropriate for school grounds kind of thing. Yeah. So I had a day where I had to do that. I had to wear a shirt backwards, or not backwards, but inside out because the teacher didn't like with the messaging or something. I don't remember what shirt I was. Fortunately, I never had that problem with any of the Howard Jones or Duran Duran T-shirts that I would wear. It was, oh, my gosh, that woman's face on the Rio album cover is slightly provocative. Yeah, like doing anything in the new wave area was pretty safe.

You're right. And I did a lot of that, I did a lot of that too. It was like, oh, I have an Information Society shirt. No one said a word. Yeah. But you show up with Eddie the Beast and an axe and you're done. All of a sudden makes a big difference. I can't tell if the person on that culture club t-shirt is a man or a woman.

Please turn your t-shirt inside out. Ah, school. What a time. Here's another one from Uga Chaka. Oh, this is the half-asses one. He's calling him about the half-hast's country music names. He says, hey, Adrian and Barney. I assume Adrian Barney's like a singer or something.

I don't know who that is. I guess, or maybe it's, yeah, I don't know. Or two names, two different performers. I was looking to see if it was any of the performers that he lists, but it's not. It's not in there. He says, Morning Half Asces the other day got me thinking about country music. Additionally, songs were with hilarious titles. Here are some I've come across in my music travels, and yes, they are real, and they are spectacular, he says.

Drop kick me Jesus through the goalposts of life. I've heard of that one. By Bobby Bear. Don't know who that is. thank God and greyhound you're gone says Roy Clark he's a guy from heha right that Roy Clark yeah a banjo picker yeah correctly yep I remember as a kid sort of liking he ha yeah I liked

I liked aspect like there were parts of it I liked I was bored to death when it was the music but when they're all sitting there in the cornfield and they're popping up and down telling jokes yeah and there was like always that Ellie May looking a really tight t-shirt or tight shirt with a knot tied you get the belly exposed like yeah I could watch

this grandpa we'll keep it here for a little bit it's like country version of laughing yeah totally yeah felt like that's what that was all about she got the gold mine I got the shaft says Jerry Reed that's great may the bird of paradise fly up your nose little Jimmy Dickens that was a constant one on Dr. Dement

I remember that song. Oh, I don't remember that at all. Yeah. Maybe I do now that you say it. I bet you would if you heard it. May the bird of paradise fly up your nose. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was hooked on that show, so I know I heard it. I forgot all about it, though. It was all fishheads. Fishhead's song was on constantly. That was constantly. That was always in the funny five. That, uh, Laird-Tom-Layer guy. Weird Al Yankovic.

Weird Al-Yankevick, yeah. First weird ally I ever heard was on there. Yeah, yeah. How about this one? Going through the Big D, don't meet Dallas. Mark Chestnut. Maybe it's supposed to be don't mean Dallas, but I don't know. I don't know what that means.

Maybe you're talking about divorce going through the big D and I don't mean Dallas, but I don't know. It must be in divorce or the journey through your urethra. I don't think it means penis. Yeah, your narrow urethra. Right. All my eyes live in Texas. Exes, sorry? That's ironic.

My eyes are paying tricks on me. All my exes live in Texas. That's why I hang my hat in Tennessee. I've heard that one, George Strait. Yeah. And then finally, I'm going to hire a wino to decorate our house, David Frizzle. Frizzell. Frizzell?

Never heard of him. I've never heard of David Frizzell, but I've got to hire a whino to decorate our house. It's such a weird country song because it's, you know. It's very weird. Yeah. that specific with a whino. It's very odd. This is Nick in New England. He goes by Mixmaster fetus or

Festus. Mix master fetus. That's my DJ name. Mixmaster fetus. Little tiny baby going That's right. Anyway, he's on Discord in that name. So if you guys want to reach out to him you can. It's going to do it for today's show. Big thanks, everybody for joining us.

Frogpants.com slash TMS. We'll give you all the ways to contact us, voicemails, emails, texts, all of it. Today, oh, I didn't do it. I'm making a note. Today I'll put a link to the Rock Puzzles Monthly. Oh, thank you, yeah. So you'll find that there.

Basically, want to make it so the TMS site for anything we ever talk about is just available, all right? I appreciate that. And you'll be able to link off to that. Anyway, there's that. As I mentioned, me and Dunaway doing Play Retro later today. Do you got anything else today you want to mention before we go? No, I mean, it's really, today for me is really just going to be getting all the ducks in a row for Rock Puzzles Monthly. And just answering people's questions about it, the Discord, all that stuff, sending out a thing on HubSpot to let people know.

And then I have some more Film Fest prize stuff to get out. And we're good. Nice. Nice, busy, full day. It is. I've got all eight slots on my physical 3D printed to-do list filled. Wow. That's a rarity that all five of these things have something written on it.

That's good, though, because all eight of these, all eight of these have every something. And this is good because that's not only works as a way of saying, wow, I have a lot to do. I better get these done. But it also works as I'm only going to do eight of these at a time. I cannot overload my list. Right. That part is key, man. It is.

Because it's so overwhelming. If you look at a to-do list that's got like 12 things on it, you're not going to feel like even doing one of them. But if you know that, you know, as soon as I pulled this off, I've got a blank spot. And you keep another list somewhere else that, you know, that you don't look at constantly that's got your kind of stuff I need to do tomorrow or put on these lists when I get these things done. But you don't want it in a place where you're constantly staring at that. It's demotivational.

Yeah. It's like a choice paralysis, but in a whole different way. Right. Exactly. Yes. Hate it. All right. Well, that's that. Let's get out of here with a song.

Let's play one. You have one. Let's play. I have one. This one's going out to another J. Martin, who I had, I had run. with many, many years ago in the Rhino District of Colorado, along with the person he's writing about. He says, Hello, Spooky and Boo. October 1st is the birthday of my lovely wife, musical chemist, who I also called Music Alchemist, because it works both ways.

She's a huge fan of Halloween as well. She recently heard Mel Tourme's version of superstition, and I wanted to request it for her birthday and kick off the Halloween season with this swing and cover. Thank you, another Jay Martin. First off, happy birthday to musical chemist. Happy Thursday, do you. Congratulations. And just a little bit of trivia about this song. It originally was written by Stevie Wonder as a song he wrote for Jeff Beck to perform.

And Jeff Beck's version would have been the original and Stevie Wonder's would have been the cover. But Stevie Wonder's label said, oh, this is totally a single. Let's get it out there quick. And they beat Jeff Beck to the release of superstition. So it was intended to be a Jeff Beck song first, first and foremost. Wild. I didn't know that. And there's a great, I mean, if you go listen to the Jeff Beck version, it is fantastic.

It's on the Beck-Bogarton Apis, one of their releases. So, so good. Anyway, this is the version by Mel Tourmet, very different version from the Velvet Fog coming at you. From the Maisonet, here is Superstition. Superstitious, riding on the wall. Very superstitious, ladder's about to fall. 13-month-old baby broke a looking glass. Seven years of bad luck, good things in the past.

When you believe in things you don't understand, you're going to suffer. A superstition ain't the way. Very superstitious. Wash your face and hand. Rid me of the problem. Do all that you can. Keep me in a day dream. Keep it going strong.

You don't have to save me. Sad is my song. When you believe in things, you don't understand you're going to suffer. Superstition ain't the way. Superstition ain't the way. Two-slips and ain't the way. A very superstitious, nothing more to say. Very superstitious, the devil's on his way.

13-month-old baby broke a looking glass. Seven years of bad luck. in the past When you believe in things You don't understand You're going to stop a Superstition ain't the way Superstitian ain't the way

Superstitian ain't the way It ain't necessarily so It ain't necessarily so The things that you're liver To read in the Bible Superstitin ain't the way Superstitin ain't the way Look out for black cats

Avoid the number 13 Don't bust any mirrors Avoid walking under ladders It's witchcraft Charming witchcraft It's the exorcist all over again Superstition Soapstitian ain't the way

Superstitian ain't the way Very, very very very Superstitions Yes Stevie Wonder Thank you Thank you

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