The Morning Stream - TMS 2915: A Oui Argument

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Weenis Penis Dingle Dong. Red On Air Deaf Woman. What The Fork!? How About the LA Law Way: Dr Pulaski Down the Elevator Shaft? I love a lil'whip. Most Science Is Out of Spite. Pecker inspired drone. I Don't Like Goats With CTEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Harry Dean Stockwell. Pinball Dreams. The Over Under Chicken Sandwich. I am aware this is murder, but... Those Damn Poutines. Creamy Heist. Spite Science with Dr. Niki and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A hog tricked three cows into opening the gate, then ate all their slop while they argued about whose fault it was. What a waste of time. They should have just signed up at patreon.com slash TMS and avoided all that mess. Coming up on the morning stream, we need his penis dingledong. Red on air, deaf woman. What the fork? How about the L.A. Lawway?

Dr. Pulaski down the elevator shaft. I love a little wept. Most science is out of spite. Pecker-inspired drone. I don't like goats with C.T. Harry Dean Stockwell. Pinball dreams. The over-under chicken sandwich.

I'm aware this is murder, but... Those damn pootines. Creamy heist. Spite science with Dr. Nicky and Moore. On this episode of The Morning Stream. I'm the ramrod around this place, and you better start giving me a yes, sir. You're going to get the roof of this house pulled down on your head. You are not one of them.

You have not the taint. The morning stream, he's taking a dump in a can. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for November 4th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbottai. Hello, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. We got any good T-Mobile things today?

Do we know? Oh, nothing's dropped yet. but um i never did i forgot to use that free spicy chicken wendy's thing from last time i think my wife did but i didn't get to partake so that kind of somebody got use out of it yeah that's the thing right you want to you want to take advantage of these guys for sure let's see if i never they have the the the slurpy stuff every uh every week you get you know it's part of it you get a free large slurpy at 7-11 never never used those i've never gotten the free slurpy i should because there's, you know, two 7-Eleven's pretty close to my house.

Yeah, not too bad. Just don't get the drinks there because, according to my Pepsi guy, they're disgusting. They don't watch the stuff. They don't watch the business. Okay, here it is. Team Mable Tuesday's KFC free three-piece tenders box. Okay. You have to spend five or more to get it, though.

So it's not really free. I mean, you go get yourself some fries and a drink and you've probably spent the five bucks. Yeah, that's not bad. Although I guess it comes with fries. Oh, is that? Yeah, it is fries. get something for a spouse or a friend. They still do the...

Or a partner. Was that thing called the over-under or... The double down. Double down. The over-under is the... You know, the chances you're going to get a heart attack from that. Yeah, I remember at the time it was like 1,700 calories or some ridiculous amount, like full day worth of food.

Don't eat that. Exactly. Yeah. Stay away from that shit, everybody. Yeah. Don't do it. A couple things last night. I've said this before on the show,

but our French Canadian neighbors have been, when they moved in, we were really friendly and outgoing and they were very kind of like didn't, it's not that they wouldn't talk to us. They were just kind of, they kept to themselves.

Totally fine. We're not the kind of neighbors that bug you, but just be like, hey, if you guys need anything, let us know, and then occasionally on a holiday

we'll bring by cookies or whatever. Yeah. But for the most part, it stayed nice and quiet between us and the French Canadians. And last night, I heard the unmasalienable, mistakeable sound of adults yelling at each other in French.

Oh, gosh. Okay. And I don't know French, so I couldn't. It was Merd? Was the phrase Mared used at all? You know what? I think the word Mered may have been used now that you say it. I think that's the only French swear word I know.

I mean, French Canadian is essentially French, right? There's not a bunch of, I know there's some dialect differences. I'm sure there's some differences, but yeah, I imagine all your basics are the same. Yeah. But I've never really heard French people. fight. I know they do have heard of that revolution. I know I heard about that one time. That was a big deal for the French. You know, they fought all kinds of things then. They put people, they chop their heads off and whatnot. So I know they have the capability to fight and yell. Sure. But I've never heard

it. So hearing this last night, it was late. It was like 1130. The window or I let the dog out to pee and I just hear this like, oh, hey, wrong. And the lady back and forth, like really mad. Yeah. And now I'm all worried about these people. I'm worried that, you know, I mean, everyone has their little arguments. Sure, of course. Of course. I don't think, as far as I can recall, I've never had a shouting match with Kim. So that's, that's the level I don't know about.

So I don't, I don't know if I'm supposed to like, should I go, I probably should do nothing, right? You probably should do nothing. Unless you see physical harm being done or, or that sort of thing. I mean, it really depends on how friendly you are with the name. neighbors, like, you know, pop over there with a plate of cookies, say, hey, you guys okay? Heard some yelling last night. Cookies are good. Cookies smooth things over. Sure. Or just, you know, like, maybe I just go over there and go, hey, just thinking about you guys, hope you're doing okay. You know what I mean? Just like kind of like Pokemon and have

them realize. I don't want them to, I don't want them. Yeah, have her realized that everybody in neighborhood heard them yelling. Good plan. Good plan. I don't know what to do. Only good can come from that. I'll just let it. I'll let that sleeping dog lie. I'm not going to worry about it. I would. Unless, you know, if it becomes a regular thing, then maybe. Yeah, this is the first time I were even, I mean, they were barely ever there. Maybe they were both yelling at the dog. It could have been. They have a little, they have a little yippy dog. I'd yell at that dog. That dog sucks. Yeah. Nothing wrong with your dogs. If you have little yippy dogs at home, I'm not ripping on listener dogs. I'm ripping on the general idea of a tiny yippy dog. Of the tiny yippy dog, yeah, which is those deserve to get some shade.

Yeah. Speaking of which, my dog, Rainer, Jim Rainer, the female dog, getting old. She's getting old. She's almost as old as her breed gets. So it's a little sad. We're all just sort of watching her get a little creaky and slow. But if you take her for a walk, she still has the energy of a puppy. You don't know where she gets it from.

She just loves it. So this morning I'm out there. It's cold. It's like 36 degrees with the wind and everything and kind of walking the dog. And the dog's loving it. And then I notice she's doing something new now. So when she pees, and this is, I think this is an old age dog thing. When she pees, she'll squat down to pee.

And then when she gets up, she'll retain the squat position of her legs for about six steps. Looks like a crab. So she'll walk, I got to get video of it because it's hilarious. Like a little sort, like, yeah, not standing up as quickly as she used to be able to. Yeah. All the kind of shit where you and I are going to have to deal with as tall old men who can no longer care. the when we get off the toilet we're going to be walking like squatting like a little bit for

a few minutes like just getting the legs working again yeah a little yeah as long as our wives aren't trailing us with little bags we'll be okay oh gosh please yeah if that's ever the case i give tina just put me down yeah yeah i feel like that's what i feel like i feel like if i like my mom is you know we're she's in the decline for sure it's been since march or whatever and uh we keep hearing back for the nurses yeah there's this now and there's this and so we're hearing these like notes of like okay this is progressing she's you know she's never gonna walk again so that's not even on the table anymore so there's all that kind of stuff but as the longer i hear it i just go yeah just push me off something mm-hmm like find a cliff i know this is murder

I know you can't do this But I'm aware that this is murder Yeah, here's how I'll do it I'll talk the kids to take me like I want to go to the Grand Canyon one more time And they'll say okay dad whatever So they take me the Grand Canyon And then I just get up high in a wheelchair somewhere

And just forget to lock those wheels And then right off the edge Yeah sure At some point like I'm just saying if I can't get around anymore I mean I don't mean men We're, we're wussies. I know that. You know, my family wouldn't want me talking like that.

I think I'd much rather just be smothered by a pillow in my sleeve or over-medicated than, you know, than the seconds of scorching pain of watching myself in shock as I descend into the Grand Canyon in a wheelchair. I feel like, you're not wrong, but I feel like there's something to the trip that's like your final, this is the last exciting thing you're going to do and you shouldn't feel it because you're going to hit so hard that you're not going to have any

there's no going to mean no pain. No, you won't feel it, but boy, the time before you don't feel it is going to be something. Yeah. So you have to be willing to want the thrill of that and also know that

the end is no good. If you're not ready for that, then yeah, probably a pillow. Although I don't want somebody putting a pillow on me. It would suck. Because I'd fight against your natural inclination. is to squirm and fight it.

Sure, sure. Whereas if I go rolling off that hill, there ain't nothing stopping it once I'm rolling. Yeah, that's true. All right. I'm just out there. I'm just free falling like Peggy Hill at the end of season three,

just letting it rip, you know? I don't know. I don't want that either. If I don't want the pillow, I don't want the Grand Canyon either. I think just a little, a little Drano in my metamusel or something. Yeah, something to have me fall.

All asleep on the couch and not get up. Right, right. Look, we like these morbid discussions, everybody. We hope you do, too. It really, hopefully gives you an insight into who we are as people. Yeah. What is in our psyches. That's right.

Hey, I'm glad you started a show that I really liked. What did you think of this? Started and finished. Freaking awesome. You're ahead of me. I'm two episodes to the end. You actually started and laughed to me before I could finish the damn thing. Yeah, well, we, you know, we're the, this was already on our,

list just because we love mayor of east town but it's but it's you know we we do the thing where we wait until all the episodes are right available usually like for um sci-fi stuff alien earth or marvel stuff or things that we know there's the potential of getting spoiled we'll do that week to week but um for other things like you know we're waiting until i think all of the only murders new season is now available um we usually just that's quick wait and batch everything yeah so um holy crap what a great what a great show yeah it's task whatever they so this is task we're talking about right i'm sorry yeah we never did say shit i like dot com task is the name of the show HBO max joint uh and HBO original it's very very very good and um i think it's maybe i already

really like ruffalo and tons of roles he's great and most anything you see ruffalo in i think this might be some of the best work he's ever done certainly in tv or long form like this i think so yeah it's certainly i mean what's the one with that where he plays the two brothers that we talked about a few years ago oh i love that one too yeah that was that was also really good forgot the name the um uh let's see what's the name of the other guy i know it's a guy that we've seen here we go tom pelfrey who plays robbie yeah amazing with the with the beard uh um he is great and i'm trying to figure out what else we've seen him in um the beard makes him immediately familiar.

Ozark. Oh, it's Ozark, right? Right, right, right. Oh, yeah. Plus, he was the bad guy in Iron Fist. So that explains where you might not have seen him. Yeah, I did not see him in that because I never saw that. But yeah, no, he's awesome.

He's amazing. Oh, one of the brothers in Outer Range. That's right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's very good. He's really good. I love Martha Plimpton in this.

She's a small role, but I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's just really good, guys. If you're like, wait, what is it? What is it? it's like this it reminded me of justified

in one way the story of the villains and the story of the heroes supposedly and it's complicated who's who's you know heroes and villains and this world it's complicated but following them separately almost so it's like you get

to see the justified thing is like you get to see Boyd Crowder and his life and his crime family and all that stuff but also his personal side and the parts of him that are actually kind of good and all that. And then you have the whole flip, which is Raylan Givens, obviously the good guy, but that's also complicated. His life is complicated. He has to kill people, all that. It reminded me of that, because it's very good at telling these two tales and then having them come

come to meet in the middle of the show. Yeah, yeah, for sure, the anti-hero. The hero and the anti-hero kind of thing. Yeah, it's really good. Really good. So, highly recommend it. And Tina and I have now moved on to season three of the diplomat. because the way two ended we couldn't wait to jump back into that that's good to hear that's a full netflix season out already right it is yeah so they're they're you know they're good about some things like giving us the whole business all at once but um british bake off no not giving us the whole business all at once nope you have to have fresh baked goods not that's right no day olds or week olds or month olds or whatever it's uh it's all part of the the mythology of baking i love it

It keeps you from getting the soggy bottom, if you know what I mean. If you know what I mean. Oh, I know what you mean. All right. Oh, and a quick shout out to Jamie. I went ahead and went back and listened to that 14-minute mashup yesterday. Oh, yeah. Good Lord, we said.

Stellar work? Who said, beans a lot. I thought it was just going to be me. It was like a ton of you and it was a ton of. Oh, really? Yeah, it was a ton of film sack. There was a little bit of core thrown in there. Do I say weiner a lot?

Is it all just the word weiner? Weiner, penis. Okay. Dingle Okay Dong made an appearance It was surprising But 14 minutes of that

I'm not sure I'd recommend it to most people I'm just saying it exists And it's at the end of yesterday's show So if you want to hear it, you can hear it Interesting That's about how much time it takes me To go to the Panera bread in the morning And come back

Like to go out and come back with my coffee From the Panera bread Oh my gosh I'll listen to it tomorrow morning During my Panera bread coffee run I look forward to your review It's going to be great the yearbo hanging out at the panera bread.

Yeah. I miss that show. All right. Let us now dive into today's news. It's a news day and we're here to give it to you. So here's the news. It's brought to you by. Brought to you by Daily Music Headlines in addition to finding out about radio stations that are now

till the end of Christmas or till the end of the year playing nothing but Christmas songs. That's right. Starting November 1st, you have a lot of state. in the country that switched over their format to all Christmas all the time. But you've also got the story about Billy Elish's brother, Phineas O'Connell, and something that he recently did that you're going to be hearing on your Apple TVs starting now-ish. Really? Yeah.

Music-related, documentary. New Apple TV. So Apple TV Plus has rebranded to just plain Apple TV, and Phineas has produced three different music stingers that you hear. when you see the new logo, the new Apple TV logo. Oh, cool. That's cool. Produced by Phineas.

Yeah, that's awesome. Billy's like, I'm too busy being controversial about giving money away to poor people. I don't have heard about that, but. I haven't heard about that. A bunch of people are mad at her

because she called out billionaires and just said, what do you do? Why don't you spend your money? Oh, I didn't realize she was, yeah, I've heard about a few celebrities doing that. I didn't realize that she was one as well. Yeah, and then she had some,

her last tour or something, she gave all the proceeds to charity. So I don't know what they're mad at her about. All she's doing is saying, hey, even if you gave away 99.9% of your wealth, you'd still be a billionaire. So maybe just, you know,

shell it out a little. That's all. We're all in a society here. Exactly. That's DailyMusikadlines.com. Forget to give the website. Oh, yeah, URLs. There you go. Yep. All right. His first story is about a deaf woman who survived

being hit by a plane that crashed into her as she walked her dog in California. Geez. Yeah, got to be careful, man. How small is this plane that hit her? Yeah, or how large is her dog? Not really. Deaf woman survived being hit by a small custom-made plane

that crashed into her as she walked her dog on a soccer field. She was seriously injured by the freak accident in Long Beach, California. On Tuesday, October 22nd, had to undergo surgery. She says she's in her 40s, which shouldn't matter. Didn't hear the home-built two-seater aircraft approaching as the field

or, sorry, approaching the field as the pilot had to make an emergency landing, her sister Brittany McFall. Oh, that's an unfortunate last name. We know a McFall. We know Charles McFall, who's the head of podcast. He does the podcast track now at the

DragonCon. That's right. You guys used to do something together, right? We used to do the Pokemon Go show. Yeah. Pokemon Go podcast. Anyway, let's see. This happened. Oh, it's very traumatic for her. She's probably going to have PTSD because a normal person wouldn't just walk into the park and have this kind of accident. She told the...

Probably you're going to have some PTSD from this. I mean, a two-seater custom plane. My brother being one of these, I think. It was like a... Really? Yeah, parts of Arizona, you can just do this. It's not that you don't regulate it. And it's not those one-seater things with the hang lighter type.

The ultra-light kind of thing. Yeah. This is a different deal. Something different. And this is so long ago, I'd have to talk to Mark and figure out what I'm explaining. There's a photo of it. Okay. Oh, is it in the article?

Let's see. It's in the article about halfway down. It's a picture of it sitting in the park. This is something Bob you might know about because he does plain stuff, but I don't know what to call it. Oh, there it is. Okay, so that's the crashed.

Oh, interesting. That's like from a kid or something. Yeah, it's from the evil-kineval kit, clearly. Yeah, these colors. I don't think I like it. Yeah, she's... Anyway, that would suck. Also, I...

Okay. I realize this is... I wasn't there, and I'm not trying to blame the victim. However, oh gosh, okay. I feel like I would, if I was in a big open space like this park clearly is. Yeah. This is a motorized vehicle, so you're going to hear it. Yeah.

I feel like I would see this thing. Read the first word of the headline again? Oh, deaf woman. Shit. You're right. I forgot that she was. deaf. So if it comes up behind you, you're, you're, uh, yeah. Yeah, you're not going to hear it. You're not going to hear it. No, because she's deaf, Johnson. That's right.

My gosh. All right. Well, there's that. She's going to be okay, though, it says. Did she okay, good? Yeah. She's just going to have PTSD, but, uh, her sister thinks so. I mean, I don't know. Maybe her sister shouldn't say that until they know. I mean, I know, you know, you like to label people. You like to. Right, right. assume things but let's let's let's hope that brittany knows her stuff or that that uh reputable doctors told her that she's going to be okay she's just going to have PTSD i'll tell you what the the the people i know in my life that are deaf most of which i'm pretty sure all of them were born that way or born deaf are some of the most resilient tough human beings i've ever met in

my life they're afraid of nothing and i don't get it i would be well it's because i have hearing if i lost my hearing i'd be a puss absolute pus for sure i would just be a melted ball of yuck it wouldn't work it would wreck me uh because here's the problem i'd fall asleep no matter what you show me to watch if i'm reading subtitles i'm falling asleep in two minutes yeah that already i can't watch i can't go see movies anymore right i can't uh you know i'm ruined either blindness or deafness just freak me to f out but if you're born with it you have this resilience it's all you've ever known and sure you've got such great acuity with your other senses and stuff that i feel like we just you know they deserve more credit than that i'm not saying i know her sister any more than she does but

maybe don't assume she has PTSD just yet. That's all I'm saying. Right, right. Because that's an actual clinical thing. You got to, like, get diagnosed with that, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. By a mental health professional. Is it going to be PTSD when you encounter soccer fields or dog walking or?

Yeah. What's going to trigger? What's the trigger going to be? Oh, man. Let me think what that would be if I was deaf and I. And I guess just. Yeah. My dog, maybe.

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I think just that particular place, you would like, time to find a new route to walk the dog, something with a lot more trees and buildings and stuff like that, something that's got a little more protection from the sides. New Park, who-d-is, kind of thing.

Yeah, exactly. A man in Germany, well, a flight from Chicago to Germany, I should say. Okay. Accused of stabbing two teens with a metal fork on a flight. That's not good. Oh, geez. Yeah. I guess they weren't giving you metal forks anymore.

I guess it's not metal knives anymore on planes. Yeah, now it'll be forks because of this probably. That'll be forks. Great. Now they're taking away our forks. The Lefonsa flight. Ooh, that's the flight that the guys in Goodfellas robbed. Was it Lufthansa? Yeah. They called it Lufthansa heist.

And it's the one that got them in the most trouble because Robert De Niro's character got paranoid and just started killing off people he thought were going to snitch. Oh, wow. That's a huge part of that movie. It's been a long time since I've seen Goodfellas. I think since. movie rules so good uh i could watch that right now i don't know what it is about that movie and i don't feel that way about a lot of his movies a lot of his movies are one and done for me but yeah irishman i'm good never seeing the irishman again yeah i liked it a lot but i can't

i'm not doing that casino casino i could watch again yeah only part of casino i need to skip past the parts with what's her name and it's not because she's bad she's actually amazing at it sharon stone yeah yeah she's so good in it that's part of the problem because her character sucks so bad. She's the worst human being that she's playing. She's fine as a regular person. She's so good at her that it makes me just want to

scream. All the rest of casinos, some of my favorite stuff. But man, she just really nails it. And unfortunately, in a way that makes me just, I get put off by her character. Just a hot mess, red flag, walking red flag, man. Everything about it. Interesting. All right.

Anyway, this flight from Chicago to Germany diverted to Boston after a man stabbed two teenage passengers with a metal fork those damn teens Panith Kumar oopser my gosh Usura Polly age 28

was charged he's barely not a teenager himself Carter's age yeah exactly yes wild anyway charged with one count of assault with a deadly weapon with intent to do bodily harm in a connection with an instant Saturday according to the U.S. Attorney General's office in Massachusetts

he was arrested after the plane landed in Boston's Logan International Airport, the prosecutor's office said in a statement, and it was not immediately clear whether Yerisipali has a lawyer to speak on his behalf. Spokes him for the airline did not immediately respond to your request for comment. I don't know. You know one thing they don't get into is whether maybe he brought his own fork. Maybe it is plastic forks. Yeah.

Never given me real silverware in there. Which airplane transgression triggered him? Is it the reclining the seat into you or taking off your shoes? and resting your feet on the back of the armrest between the two seats in front? You'd have to think about what would drive me to take a metal fork? Well, for me, nothing would drive me that far. Yeah, but... It'd take a lot.

You'd have to really... You'd have to come at me with a metal fork, and then I would have to defend myself. I'd need to defend myself with a metal fork. I don't think there's anything that somebody could do that would make me go so far as wanting to stab them with metal fork, but still... I think there's more of the story that we... that we need to hear which is the what was the what was the instigation what uh what's our what's our motive here yeah exactly getting going to detective mode uh a thief oh do they catch those uh loove the whoever was the big oh there was something about that yeah that they have um they had a couple

of them in custody over the weekend right are they partially they they said they partially confessed is the last i heard about it partially which That was the thing I didn't know, didn't understand, is, uh, wild. Yeah, we stole that, but we didn't steal all that. Yeah. I just remember from the photo, they were, like, ridiculously handsome. Oh, really? Which made me feel like it was a movie almost.

Thomas Crown Affairs. Yeah, like really good-looking guys. Yeah. And I'm not really into the dudes, but you know what I mean? Right, right, right. I can recognize a handsome man when I see one. Of course. We as we should be able to, yes.

If we're not, then who are we? Right. You know, if not normal, red-blooded Americans. Anyway, so we don't know how that'll go, but we'll watch and find out. I want to keep an eye on that and find out to see if they reveal what the trigger was for the stabbing. Well, the second biggest heist of the year has to be this one. Thiefs make off with $80,000 in whipped cream during the Ontario trailer heist. Can't imagine how much whipped cream is.

$80,000 worth of whipped cream. It better be a lot. Yeah. Like, I mean, that's got to be, well, maybe they'll say here. Let's find out. Guelph police. I don't know where that is, but it's... Well, yeah, it's on Canada.

Guelph, I think it is. Guelph? We had a newspaper in Guelph. I didn't go there, but we had a newspaper in Guelph. They should redo that name. They should... I don't know what you do as a city, but it's bad. Right, yeah.

They're looking for a suspect who allegedly whipped up a creamy heist earlier this week. I haven't had one of these in a while. No. There's a very good one of these in that mashup that's very funny. Oh, really? Okay. That's also tied to the Jamie's theme, but it's also like this where it's one of these articles where they try to pun their way through the story. Yes. Okay. Gotcha. You'll enjoy it. It's an old one. I don't know when we did it. Probably 2012. We probably both sound like, you know, fresh face little, uh, okay, now we're going to do the morning stream.

Hi, everybody. It's like four mics ago or whatever now. Right, right, exactly, yeah. It says just 4.11 a.m. Wednesday, police set a manager from a business on Speedvale Avenue, wherever this is, reported a trailer had been stolen early in the morning. A white, wabish refrigerator trailer was hooked up and towed away. A trailer was loaded with 30 pallets of Gay Lee branded whipped cream. 80 grand worth. Wow.

I've never even heard of that brand. Okay. must be all the way they describe it's all the canisters right like you have on the store shelf like the ready whip uh yeah i haven't had that so long i never have a wish i loved i used to love some whipped cream but sure oh yeah the only the only time we get it is uh around the holidays right now on on uh pumpkin pie or whatever kind of pie they get sir if i'm having pumpkin i have to have it on that yeah and they make you know they make light whipped cream it's still fat what you know what makes you know what makes it whipped because you're whipping up the dairy fat still gets it gets a little thinner with the light one but it's still it's doable less sugar yeah but i don't eat that pie very often so i can always justify it it's fine there you go give me a can kill the ozone layer i don't think it still does that let's go ahead i don't know i don't feel like they still use what do they what's the um not aerosol but just uh um the little co2 cartridges or whatever it is oh right i we used to

get that we used to do the stuff where you like you you've got the the container and you put cream in it and then you use you you plug in the CO2 cartridge and it makes whipped cream oh that's cool that's a thing yeah you could do that yeah do your own whipped cream at home parents had that yeah that's awesome yeah I don't remember what was in the aerosol cans like the hairspray stuff in the 80s but whatever they did to get rid of it it's the ozone layer healed but then today if I go buy a can of anything spray something that's compressed in a can, am I doing something different than we did in the 80s and that's why we don't hear about that anymore or does it actually still affect things? I don't know. Science! Next week with

Bobby Frankenberger. We need to ask you about that. Yeah. Nitrous. There it is nitrous cartridges. That's it. Oh, yeah. Like you put in the back of a, what those called? Do you ever do this? I don't, the, the derby racers or the, what was it was called? Those I thought were CO2 cartridges. Those little, yeah, those little metal ones. I thought those were CO2. I think so. Or at least, I know you put them in the rockets, right? The tester style of rockets.

All the stuff you'd play you as a kid, you'd go buy a rocket kit, and it would come with like one of those cylinders. And my dad used to act like those were C4 ready to blow up anytime and you had to be so careful on the house with those. I don't know why I was so hardcore about it. Be like, Dad, we've got to get this ready for the Pinewood Derby. Well, that's what it is, Pinewood Derby. Pinewood Derby.

And he'd be like, oh, careful what those. cartridges why oh but one of those blew up you'd know it because half your hand would be missing and i'd be like i don't think this is happening i think that's how that works i think there's only the only part that can blow up or or is just where you bang the pin in at the very end of it is the only part that's thin enough to blow up but i don't know maybe yeah i don't think he was right either i think he i think he was just like overly cautious about it but i don't know he was always blowing shit up. So what did he know? Yeah. Well, there's your

news for today. Brian, I have something kind of special today. I haven't even told you about this. I scrolled ahead, so I did get kind of spoiled. Oh, well, that's all right, then. I'll still fain surprise. You'll tell me, and I'll give my surprise, my McCauley Culkin surprised face. Well, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to play an intro, and then

we're going to bring in somebody who's sitting in today for Dan. Dan had some stuff. He was traveling. Couldn't be here. Uh, So now we have this. It's your intro, Dr. Nicky. Great intro. Yeah, it is Dr. Nicky, though. I've been wanting to have her on forever for just any good excuse.

And hot damn, here we are. What's going on? Yay. Hi. Hi. How's it going? I have video, but I don't know what to do for you. Oh, here.

I'll send, you know what? I'd love to have you on. Let's do that. I'm going to send you a video call on Discord and I'll just mute it. But your video will show up. So here it comes. I probably didn't, like, arrange my background, especially for this or anything. You don't have any sheep sprains or anything behind you?

I actually do. Oh, really? No way. Let's see it. Oh, it's smaller. Wait, I've got a skull over there for you guys. Oh, look at that. And then I've got some Scott Johnson art.

I don't know. Oh, yeah. That's great. Very cool. I forgot about it. Oh, my gosh. I think he printed it and put it up in my office. That looks awesome.

You look great. This is so professional. I'm not sure. were worthy. I know. Totally. Yeah. My home podcasting area does not look this cool. This is my like work office. I grab my my podcast arm and my fantastic. Yeah. Look at it. There's professional stuff behind her. This is. This is amazing. Don't worry about what's on the other side of the screen.

That's all my junk plant. Okay. Fair enough. Well, that's great. I'm, I'm so happy to have you here for two reasons. One, we think the world of you, so having you here is just a treat. Absolutely. But number two, you're going to talk to me about something that caught my eye immediately when you said it. And it's called, whoops, where my notes go. I don't want to say it wrong. Biomimicry. Biomimicry.

Which you suggest it just kind of out of the blue and I went, I don't even know what it is. I have an idea of where you're headed with this. But I'm excited about it. Yeah, go ahead. It's when you have a loot, like a treasure chest in D&D, and you open it and then teeth come out and it bites your arm. Yes, because it was actually biological all the time, right? Yes. No, maybe not that so much.

But it'd be like if I, I'll give you an example and then Dr. Nicky, you can A, tell me how wrong I am and B, give us the correct answer, which I'm sure is much more complicated than I'm about to tell you. But let's just say, I want to mimic a video game. I want to sound like Pac-Man all day. So I just walk around and going, waka, waka, waka, waka, gulp, waka, waka. And then, so that's me. I'm a biological creature trying to mimic the thing, right? Is that even close to what this says? I'll give you 0.25 points on that.

No, not at all. Right? Like, they'll mimic the sound of another bird. Okay, this is not where we're going. I got to fix this before we got too far. Put the train back on the tracks. Since you're talking about trains, that was my example for Scott. Brian, when you were in Japan, did you ride the Shinkansen?

We did. Oh, my God. Did you hear about what, like, animal it was. based off of for the engineering? No. Okay, I don't know if we have train nerds in the audience. They probably know this. So the Shinkansen has that really pointy nose.

And the reason that it has that is because before they put that on, it was going so fast that when it went through a tunnel, it would like break the sound barrier and bust everybody's windows who live near there. So it was creating a problem. And one of their lead engineers was a birdwatcher and observed kingfishers that dive into the water and like use their beak, I guess, to break the water surface. whatever tension. And so they put that beak on the shinkansen to help break the sound barrier. Biomimicry is mimicking biology, at least in the context of engineering, which is what I wanted to talk about.

But you're not wrong about birds and stuff. Those are called mimids because they do mimic other sounds. But this is just context. Okay. We'll save mimids for next time. So it's us figuring out as humans, even with all our ingenuity, sometimes nature has some of this stuff figured out. So, you know, it's kind of good idea to kind of, I don't know, figure out where it works best. Yeah, learn from what nature done taught us. How do you do that? How do they know that, though, without making the train first?

You know what I mean? Okay. So here's where my problem is. So the reason I wanted to talk about this randomly is because I wrote a paper about it out of spite. Because engineers, and I'm sorry for engineers in the audience, most science is out of spite. I'll let you know. They're bad at biology, usually, which is not their first. fault. They're not training biology. So the, like, for example, the person who wants to make a train and saw a bird, great job. But like nobody ever asked a biologist if that, like, works in the birds in the first place. And that happens a lot with woodpeckers. Like, you must have heard about this. Like, recently there was a drone that came out that I covered on DTNS where this drone is crash proof because it's inspired by a woodpecker's brain because woodpeckers peckers peck trees and they don't get brain injury. And nobody ever asks the woodpecker biologist, me.

if that's actually biologically true. So I wanted to figure out like, yeah, there you go. There it is. Engineers mimic woodpecker skull to build drone that cuts 70% of collision impact. So this actually works? I don't know if there's anything wrong with the drone, but the woodpeckers do get brain injured. Go and see if that figure is on there with the bird brain

because there's a figure in this paper, oh, never mind. I don't see it. Where the brain of the woodpecker is a human brain, and they didn't even ask a biologist to make the brain, schematic. So this is just people going, there's just people in an office going, hey, man, what if we put like a woodpecker head on there? They're pretty good.

They're bang on stuff. Except they're like engineers who have PhDs. So like my question was, who's the first Wackadoo who started asking like, oh yeah, like, woodpeckers probably don't get brain image because why else would they hit their heads? And like, it makes sense to think that. Sure. But like, do some research. I mean, this is, but this is part of science, right?

Just try and crap and then throwing it against the wall in a doesn't work, then you... Literally. You go back. Look, you even got a slow-mo woodpecker. Hell, yeah. Yeah, look at that, dude. Damn.

Man, they hit it hard. Is this eyeball? As far as I'm concerned, like, not a single biologist has looked at their brain because it's hard. To see if they have brain damage, I think they have brain damage. My lab is working on that right now. It's really hard to research woodpecker brains because they're hard. No way.

Hold on a second. So you're going to figure out a way to go, these woodpeckers are giving themselves freaking freaking... I'm pretty sure. I mean, I might be wrong. You can save this recording for when I get proven wrong. I'm happy to be proven wrong. But we prove this with the big horn sheep.

I've got my big horn sheep skull in the background. Oh, right. They get brain damage. They get like hardcore brain damage. And I discovered that. Okay. Hold on a second. I don't feel worthy to have the kind of scientist on the show on TMS, of all things,

who discovered that sheep that banged their heads together. We've all seen it in major documentaries or maybe even in a person. And they all say it wrong in the nature documentaries. all go, it's amazing that they're naturally protected against brain image. And then I'm at home, like, yelling at my TV. Like, no, it's not true. They're not. The discoverer of the sheephead injuries is with us today. And I don't feel, it's the only thing I discovered, though. So that's all I got. Well, unless this woodpecker thing works out, you know. Yeah, in the next, like, 10 to 20 years, I might find out. So, can I ask you what the value in knowing? Well, let's, let's

stick to the sheep one for a second. Sure. What is the value of knowing that they create brain damage. It's just a fuller knowledge of how these animals work or is there something else there? So for me personally, I just think it's cool. But the value for the public and what gives me grants and money is that a lot of brain injury, like we study brain injury because brain injury can lead to brain damage, which can lead to Alzheimer's disease and other types of neurodegenerative diseases. And there's a lot of money in curing Alzheimer's disease because we have no cure relatively right now. So a lot of people are writing grants to cure this. And about 20% of Alzheimer's disease is caused by

chronic brain injury all this to say that we don't understand very much about how you get Alzheimer's disease because it's really hard to study. You can't just like take brain samples from people while they're alive unfortunately. I don't do that anymore. We used to do that. I mean, Hannibal Lecter did it.

Yeah, you know, he was onto something. Sure. But you can do it in animals and so my whole thing is like if we understand how these animals like do they develop brain damage over time we can understand humans better. That's one thing. The other thing is you have people who will try to market devices.

So if you've ever watched football, the helmets, obviously, you see the guardian caps, and then some of them have this cue collar. It's like a collar around their neck that presses against their jugulars. I have a whole paragraph about this in my paper because I hate it so much. This is a billion-dollar device

that is based off of bullshit nonsense about Big Horn Sheep Biology. The author is a, I think a human doctor who was just like, big or cheap, they're like in the mountains. And that's like altitude. And like probably the altitude puts pressure on their brain. And like probably they don't get brain damage. So he made this device that got FDA approved.

He should have any proof for any, any no signs behind it. Nope. And and like that could potentially be dangerous to the players because like, I mean, they've tested it on people, but they haven't tested the whole principle that is based on, which is like squeezing your. jugular and your artery help you reduce brain damage, which I really think is bullshit. I hope they don't sue me because they're very

rich, but um... Well, you all should have to fight in a ring or something like a... Yeah, I mean, all of this... Science smack down. Yeah, but then I would get brain damage, so... Yeah, yeah, and you bonged heads inside the octagon. So that's my rant, um, but ask more. Okay, let me ask you this question. Let me ask you this question.

If, if you know that the brain damage is happening to the sheep or the, the big horn sheep, and that's proven out. And we assume maybe, you know, these birds also experience the same thing. Do you think these animals also experience a form of mammalian Alzheimer's? Like, if they didn't have this all the time, would they also have degenerative head stuff? So what we know is in domestic sheep, they show some of the cellular markers of Alzheimer's disease. I'm not allowed to call it Alzheimer's disease because the criteria for Alzheimer's disease is,

is based on, like, asking people questions and you can't do that, too she. And I don't, I'm trying to chase this more and figure it out. There's certain, like, tests you can do on the brain tissue and in the blood, which is what we're doing. I have an anecdotal comment from someone at the muscox farm in Alaska where I've been trying to get brains from them for decades now. Who had an 18-year-old musk ox who just, like, stared out into the distance all day. They headbutt by the way. You say you've been bugging them to get brains? Are they just like, oh, my gosh, it's that girl again.

Don't answer the phone. No, they were okay with it. I did a talk for them and everything. But this 18-year-old muscocks, they were telling me, like, yeah, he's really old. He stares and he does nothing all day. And then I saw in the news that it died and they wouldn't give me the brains. And I'm so mad. Yeah, no, it's like, let me study that and see if it's there for the markers.

Is that why they didn't want? I'm pretty sure that one would have had, like, signs of something similar to Alzheimer's movies. But we don't have like a behavioral test to test goat dementia because I'm the only person studying it. And I don't know how to do behavior work. I have one student working on it right now. The term goat dementia is just fun to say. Yeah, and the thing is, like, they reproduce before it gets to be a problem anyway, and then they get to pass on their genes.

That's the point of life, right? It's sex. You reproduce, you pass on your jeans. Who cares if you get dementia later? Right. Right. No, that's true. So there's no real, there's a survival imperative for them to be smacking each other hard on the head.

Yeah. But there's not a anti-brain disease thing. It's like they don't die immediately when they hit heads. And if you think about it, like, someone has to lose the fight. Maybe they don't die immediately, but like they get kind of wonky after a few years. It sounds like they both lose, actually. Yeah, I was going to say, nobody wins that fight. Are you, are you, where do you stand on, like, families owning their own little goats?

Like, is that fine? Who cares? Yeah. As long as they take good care of them. I have seen everyone sends me this video of a little kid wearing a helmet who head butts a goat. Don't do that. Oh, geez. Yeah.

Oh, that's my professional recommendation. Don't do that. But you can have pet goats. They're kind of assholes, but whatever you can use. Yeah, they seem like jerks. And also, I was, the reason I was thinking of this is I saw a bunch of recently, I saw TikToks of goat compilations. And it's often a kid in a helmet.

Yeah. Pet budding their pet goat. Don't do that. Brain image is actually like serious. And as a kid, you can probably heal from it. But if you get multiple, you're, you're really signing up for some bad stuff. Yeah. for sure yeah i kind of want one though they went the way they run into the kitchen on their

little feet doing like that they're cute but they escape everything this is why i pay people to take care of my goats i don't want to deal with them always breaking stuff they ate a tarp they ate our we put accelerometer trackers on them that were $500 and like specially made in europe they ate two of them oh my gosh dude that's amazing air tags Apple air tags a lot cheaper i should have really ate a whole tarp that means they pooped a whole tarp let's let's be Unless it had to be surgically removed. If Pete is listening, no, they didn't. No, yeah, Pete is listening at all.

None of this happened. Just go away. Scott, you know, Kirby are craving by just going to goat yoga or see if the goat yoga place over here does goat movies. So you can, you just get in a lawn chair with a handful of food. You watch back to the future and goats climb all over you for the whole thing. That actually sounds really great. It was a lot of fun. I would do that.

I kind of want to go to those, but it would be. so awkward because I'd be like, what do you do when your goats die? Can I have them? Can I have their brains? Well, plus you, you're always going to have this. You're going to have a different eye for any of this. So you go see a goat, you go to just a zoo or a petting zoo. And my time there is just, aren't they funny? That one pooped. And you're going to be going the Thalmus of the upper quadrant of the D. No. No, no. I'm just like, yay. They're doing. Actually, that's me when I watch football. Which is why I don't watch football. I'm like, oh, brain damage. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you get a little, you'll notice it more in the places where we're, I mean, they've gotten, they've gotten pretty, they've gone some lengths, right, to try to reduce that?

NFL, don't sue me, but yeah, when it became public, if you guys have watched a movie concussion, by the way, it's excellent. Except there's a part about Big Horn Sheep that they get wrong. Oh, no, really? Oh, shoot. But when it came out in 2005 that CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, was a thing. The guy who discovered it, they tried to, you know, get. killed. But they, you know, they show that they're trying stuff. But like if anyone, everyone tells me at the university that I'm at like, oh, you should work with the football team. And I'm like, what am I going to tell them? Don't play football. There's only so much you can do to not

hit your head in a game that revolves around hitting your head. So there's no, it's not like there's a middle ground where you're going to say, okay, well, as long as you do this and this and this, there's not. Yeah. You just basically, it's like, yeah, the only way really to prevent this is not to do it. Yeah. And some people here are mad at me for that because they're like, pro football because it's good for community because our entire community in this town revolves revolves on football. And I'm like, I get it. I play roller derby. I hit my head two weeks ago. I understand playing sports that you love. But also like I'm not going to tell you it's not going to, you know, cripple you for life potentially. So hold on a second. So you do roller derby. Like the whole like throwing each other over the wall and no. So okay, it is extreme in the movies. I'm going to say we're playing flat track. So it's a little bit less dangerous. We're very strong about concussion protocol. I'm on the health committee. Okay. But I did fall on my butt and hit my head on the floor.

Most of the time when people hit their heads, that's what it is. It's less violent. People like to portray as like, angry women and gays doing angry stuff. Angry women and gays, yep. I mean, it's mostly gay women. Let's not. Come on. But it's more, it's like the most fun sport ever.

So if I get a concussion, I really, I can't. It would be so embarrassing. Do you want to? No, please don't. Yes. Do you want to run a nerd? spectacular roller ball tournament you want to yes okay roller ball oh yeah even better i mean i'm already doing the nature walk but hell i'll take on roller derby too oh man you got everyone has to wear helmets

jena pride will come and ref yeah because because she does that and so uh yeah that's fantastic everybody message me yeah everyone someone everyone figured that out so i don't have to uh hey it's this was awesome having you here um what else you up to thank me rant about my job absolutely yeah I find it fascinating. Before we go off that topic completely, LC Knight wants to know, what's your roller derby name? What's your nickname?

Yellowhammer. It's our state bird. It's the woodpecker. Of course. It's got hammer in the name. Yellow hammer. And we know you love birds. So perfect.

Yeah. You're a bit of an expert on all animal things when I have questions. Oh, yeah. Bring me all the questions. Yeah. I feel like we're, this is what we got to do. We have a little slot opener.

There's a story hitting that it's like, hey, we found out today that ostriches can do math or something. I'm going to bring you on. I did this literally for my job. Someone emailed the biology department. They were like, does anyone know anything about badgers? And I was like, I don't, but I'll volunteer.

Well, what do you know now? Do you know anything new about badgers? Nobody ended up asking me because we were playing a team that had badgers as their mascot. I don't know, football stuff. And I was like, yeah, I can Google stuff about badgers and like translate the biology for a journalist. Yeah, I love that. Well, where can I? I think I've got a Wednesday, what do you call that?

fix what you said Wednesday about cows. Yeah, we do our whole... What do you call it? What do we call it? What do we call it? On Friday. On Friday, the thing we do.

Oh, well actually. Sorry, well actually. Well, actuallys. Okay. Like we do TMS Friday? Yeah. She, I have a PhD and I can't make real sentences. Yeah, but when you have like,

anytime you have like a, if we screw up science stuff, which I promise you, we probably do daily here. Yeah, but it's fun. You should always pipe in and correct us. I have no problem with it. I usually do if I can't. I can't usually keep my thoughts to myself.

Well, good. Dump them. You got to dump your thoughts. Don't hesitate. Is there anywhere I can send people to, like, check out anything you're writing or doing or got going on? Yeah. My website, Nicole Ackermans.com, it's got the stuff that I cover on DTNS. I try to post it as a blog over there.

If you want to hear about that stupid drone, that I'm sure works very well. And then it's got my research too, if you care about that. I do. I think it's awesome. Here it is right here. I even spelled it right and got it right away, so you guys should have no trouble. Nicole Ackermans, just like it's spelled or says or sounds.

Dot com. Look at those two sheep getting the head pain. Getting the brain damage right there. Later they're going to be going, do I know you? Anyway. Job security right there. There it is. Well, it's wonderful having you on.

I hope we get to do this again soon and take care of the animal. I'll see you probably at Nurtacular. I hope so. Make it more than a probably. Make it definitely. Yeah. It's like 90% locked in unless like the world explodes, which is possible between now and then. Because you don't want, you don't want me or Scott running the roller derby tournament.

No. It would be fun. Come on. Oh my gosh, you kidding. You guys in a tutu and like it would be great. Yeah, finally. Fishnets. Finally us in a two to who we couldn't have asked for more.

Dr. Nikki, take it easy. Stay out of trouble. And may all your sheep be horny. I don't know what I'm saying. It's not really where I wanted to go, but, uh, no. no i give you by the way through some video on our discord in the tms discord um uh of the uh bullet train going by grabbing it right now is this you i think it's 10 seconds yeah it took this when we were in

japan in 2015 and uh this is before we got on one this is the one that went by and it's just amazing trying to get it to open for me as fast as you think they go they go faster really yeah okay and you can see and you can see the king fisher snout or the king Fischer beak on the front of it. Wish it would, for some reason, won't open. Is it not loading? It's not your fault. Something's up on my end.

Maybe. Oh, here we go. Just took a minute. Okay, here we go. Pulling it up, moving it over, sticking it in. Don't know if people hear audio. Hopefully they do. Either way, it's cool.

Check this out. It's loud, so be ready. Yeah. That's how you want them, though, right? That's how you want it. You want some loud trains, yeah. I'll move that down. It's a tad.

Yeah, I'd probably a good idea. so that's got the beak of a yeah you're king fishing man why don't we look at Tina's stoked dude I know she's she's looking at that like we're about to get on one of those are you kidding me

yeah look at that that face says it's like a little kid I'm both excited I'm a little nervous totally totally there's Kristen there to the left too oh that's Tristan that's great yeah his hair with long man it was really long then yeah

that's great Um, you ever seen Bullet Train, the movie? Yes. I really like that movie. It's a recent one with, uh, with, uh, Brad Pitt, right? Yeah, Brad Pitt and, um, other people's names are escaping me. Tons of people. Yeah, and some great music.

Yeah, great music. I watched that again with Kim because she hadn't seen it. And you know what? I'm here to tell you. That movie got a little bit mistreated in the reviews. I think that movie's better than people think. I think so. Yeah.

And it's worth watching. So there you go. Who is the, who is the woman? we don't get we don't see her until the very end of the film but Sandra Bullock Sandra Bullock that's right it was like a big reveal like we're here in Sandra Bullock throughout the film like who is that I recognize that voice but yeah and then also who's oh Michael Shannon shows up as the villain and nobody knew he was in this there was some other character like that anyway yeah they were real big on the on the

cameos yeah who am I think of oh Tatum Channing or Channing Tatum is like This is very brief cameo, like a two-appearance cameo in it. Movies great, though. Super fun. It reminds me of this because that train. Although the ending is kind of a cartoon. The ending is the cartoon. That's the part I remember being like, okay, well.

Took a little too far, boys, you know? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Dr. Headbutt. We appreciate you being on. We're going to do a quick email. Oh, funny. From Jane of Pride, who I just mentioned.

Yeah, oh, yeah, this is from, that is funny. I didn't plan that at all. Hey, Swiss T's and Brian. Jane of Pride here. Love the Star Trek and Quantum Leap Talk. You didn't mention my favorite fan theory. The Quantum Leap Continuance Theory, since Sam Beckett never made it home and leapers can jump to any point in time.

Every Scott Bacula role since the series ended is just another leap. Enterprise, men of a certain age, even Major League, back to the miners. AI got home, or Al, sorry. I'm so used to reading AI these days. I know, yeah, exactly. can't help it anybody named al i apologize here you're you're now a i sorry um al got home sam sam kept leaping ziggie slow bro bye um here's the problem with al going home love the ziggie slow bro yeah it's really good uh he was in uh battle star galactica so does it count that he that is it connect

at all or is the guy who played sam just not sam um who played wait who played Ziggy's the robot or Ziggy's the computer. Sam's, what's his name? Sam Beckett is Scott Bacula. Okay, so who's Al is, Al. Yeah, Al is, Al is the guy who was on Battlestar Galacta. That is, so does that count as a crossover with this thing somehow? No, no, because, oh, I mean, I guess technically, if you're, yeah, Dean Stockwell,

technically if you're saying that, that every, every role since Quantum Leap, that's Scott Bacula has is connected to Quantum Leap, then anything that Al, no, I guess, no, because it's not. Because he's not leaping. It doesn't apply, it doesn't apply to other actors who are on Quantum Leap. Okay. Okay. Do you subscribe to this theory? I mean, it's obviously for fun, but do you like it?

I love this theory. And yes, I think it's fantastic. Although, technically, we wouldn't see Scott Bacula, because to everybody else, he looked like the person into which the body of the person he was leaping into. Right. If he was Elvis, he looked like Elvis.

He looked like Elvis, right. When he was Dr. Ruth, he looked like Dr. Ruth. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, dude. That was a moment. So, so, yeah, there you go. Yeah, I don't know.

I hadn't really thought about it before, but I both like it, but I think I'm seeing the holes in it. For sure. And Jayfongastic, not quite true. he says Al never leaped he was always home Al leaped once that was one of their little last season little fun

things is that they had Scott stay in the chamber and Al leapt and Scott had or Sam Beckett had to go you know help the rules got reversed and Sam had to go help Al for for an episode Was that good? Do you remember?

Or was that what did that feel shark jumpy? I think it was good because there was there was a time that that Sam had to help Al's wife like when he saved Al from dying and no what was it he saved it wasn't saved Al from dying

because Al was there there was some connection maybe it's time I need to do a quantum leap rewatch I'm fine with that yeah you're a big fan big fan still have still have the DVD collection although why do I need it I'm sure it's streaming somewhere

yeah but uh maybe it would be worth something one day you never know yeah maybe yeah no probably not probably not probably not if there's a shark jump it's probably more Dr. Ruth would be a shark jump than the swapping Al for

for Sam, right? What was the deal? There was a deal where he he leapt into Al Circa Oh, when he's younger, right. Right.

A younger version of Al. Yes, Benjin. He was a prisoner of war. I remember that. Al leapt into and maybe kept his wife from killing herself or something. There was some deal where she

he convinced her that Al was still alive and then in the future times then all of a sudden al's wife was still alive right and al it was a fake war though right it was a fake future war or was it a real war no it was a real war it was a war that al like this was i know what you're saying like is this like some made um because sam's were sorry al's way in the future right so no al's in the al's in the present oh i always maybe i need to watch the show place in the whole thing took place in some like close near future but the but but but al was in vietnam okay so he's still so so that I didn't know that I thought it's far flung future where Al was no it's like 20 it's probably

right around now like it's 20 25 or something when when Sam Beckett steps into the thing what is the year when they thought it was 97 was that it really that was just the year that the show came out wasn't it or no I guess not it's 80s so that probably seemed like a long time to go and so they I hate when shows do this. They need to go further out. You know, like 20, like Blade Runner, I'll let him get away with it because I love it so much. But 2049 is not that far away. The first Blade Runner's

already come and gone. Right. Back to the future. Come and gone. Come and gone. Yeah. Like, you got to go further out, man. And nothing and nothing looks as cool as it did in any of those movies. It doesn't, yeah, it just says in the very near future, but it doesn't say

what year Sam Beckett actually stepped into the quantum accelerator. Interesting. So that's a great way to do it because you don't actually age it, but it's also dangerous when you do a storyline where one of your dudes was in Vietnam because now you have aged it. You know what I mean? You've locked it

in, exactly. Yeah, now everyone just says the math and goes, oh, this is about mid-90s. Right. When was the last thing that they talked about? There was the series that came back in the in 2022. Let's see.

in 2024 was confirmed that the series had been canceled after two seasons. I thought that was, I thought, they put an ending on that thing, so I'm surprised that there was even a question about that. I thought there was talk about a follow-up movie or something to get Sam home. Maybe not.

Maybe not. Maybe they still, well, I guess they did the reboot. And that's enough, but I wouldn't mind a new touch, a new taste, a new idea,

you know. Makes me wonder what's happening with that community movie. Is that, did that get fully shelved? Okay, good. I read something that's, said they had to delay a couple of days of shooting because

childish Gambino was sick or something so there was some kind of delay but I think they're in the middle of production. Oh yeah sure enough yeah. Something about him getting sick or something. Let's see. Tentative shooting period for 2025.

Okay, good. Yeah, that's good. Let me finally get that damn thing. I, for, just because we mentioned Harry Dean Stanton, I at least have to make this comment. Yes. Yes. I saw him in Paris, Texas, not the town, but the movie. Do you mean Harry Dean Stalkwell or Dean Stockwell? Sorry, Dean Stockwell and Harry Dean Stan are both in this.

Okay. Those are two guys who I get confused sometimes namewise. I know. It's kind of hilarious that the movie has involved. Harry Dean Stockwell. This is a great movie. If you've never seen it, it punches above its own weight. It feels like it was just made kind of. It's very quirky and strange. And I thought Dean Stockwell was amazing as this character named Walt.

So good. So, a little side recommendation. I need to see that. That's like, who was the director on that? Do you know, can you, do you see it on there? When, win? Oh, Vim Vendors. Oh, Vim Vendors, yeah.

Vim Vendors. Yeah, I never saw that. That was always, it was always playing at the artsy theater. So I thought, well, that's something I'm never going to care about. So I, now you're older and you're like, hey, I should watch that kind of stuff. Exactly. Yeah, I need to go back and see that one. I would have been exactly the same.

I will take, I will take your recommendations, sir. It's very good. Highly recommend it. I just sad it took me so long. to see it. That is going to do it for today's show. Big thanks to Jane of Pride. Anyone else who wants to message or email us, you can find all the ways to do it at the website, frogpaints.com slash

TMS. We will now leave you with a musical number. Brian, let's hear you perform. Okay, here we go. Blue moon, Kentucky, keep on shining. All right. Let's go to Chicago. Remember Taylor Dane,

the singer from the 80s? Yeah, completely unrelated. related. This is Tanner Dane. Their names are similar. Similar, all right. So similar. From the band Holly Drops.

No, I'm sorry. From the band Holly drops a brand new EP called Bull Tarras. I love Holly Drops in the winter. Holly drops. I think that's a great name for a band, actually. The Holly drops. Not bad.

Anyway, this is a brand new song from Tanner Dane. I think you're going to like this. It's called Park Bench. Tanner's got some solo dates with Bartis Strange and the Benz, plus Holly to headline the fifth annual Holly Days celebration at Thalia Hall in Chicago on December 19th. So lots of stuff coming up for Tanner. Here's the song from his poll tabs EP.

It's called Park Bench. Little darling, if you knew I was guffy you, you let me go right now, oh yeah. I ain't the soft and sweet, the perfect man, I'm fooling you. Oh, I'll only let you down. Oh, girl. Oh, I'll only let you down on me. Oh, fighting my own mind.

All right, okay, I'm feeling good today. Oh, maybe I'll give you this. try, oh I Hold on, there's wrong, I'm just a foolish guy Oh, baby, I always like to know you Oh, because I broke my heart one time Oh, because I broke my heart one time Ooh

Oh my So grab your things and cross the line that's been holding you I'm not what you're looking for I'll be your last regret the stinging side that's hurting you. Oh, it's time you lay me down, little girl. Oh, I thought you laid me down. All right. You're still fighting my own mind.

All right, okay, I'm feeling good a day. Oh, maybe I give this a try, all right. Hold on in there's wrong I'm just a foolish guy Oh baby I'll always love to you Oh my Oh yeah I feel a good day

Baby like good as you try Oh Oh oh There's your I'm just a foolish girl Baby I'll always love to you Oh Oh

Because I've gone round for time Oh Oh This is a little bit more than Oh, I think I left it on a parkland somewhere Oh, I think I left it on a parkman somewhere Oh, and if you're family Bye

This show is part of the Frog Band Network. at frogpans.com. Well, I gotta go now, but keep a touch, okay? Bye.