The Morning Stream - TMS 2919: Shake My Face
Episode Date: November 11, 2025Puke Once, Shame On You, Puke Twice, Shame On Me. Did he do aqua ducts? Bookends on the Barf Journey. Garbage but not in a Band way. In case of Gorilla break glass. May Your Balls Be Perpetual. A tast...y Dupars pancake. Big Stoopid Buttons. Religious Sixes. Is that a mosquito D? Cracker island has a shit beach. Scatter like flies! he can't get all of us! Smothered burrito, hold the botulism. It's rough when you're a monkey. Big Bulbous Eyes with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, puke once, shame on you.
Puked twice.
Shame on me.
Did he do aqueducts?
Bookends on the barf journey.
Garbage, but not in a band way.
In case of gorilla, break glass.
May your balls be perpetual.
A tasty Dupar's pancake.
Big stupid buttons.
Religious sixes.
Is that a mosquito,
D.
Cracker Island has a shit beach.
Scatter like flies.
He can't get all of us.
Smothered burrito.
Hold debauchalism.
It's rough when you're a monkey.
Big bulbous eyes with Bill and more on this episode of the morning stream.
Smart mouths turn me off.
And I'm beginning to suspect you have a smart mouth.
You suck his finger in the end of your what?
Would you shut up?
Everybody would be looking.
The morning stream.
Yes.
I'm not easy to get along with, am I?
Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS.
It is the morning stream for Tuesday, November 11th, 2025.
Scott Johnson here.
Brian Abbott there.
Hello.
Hello.
Good morning to you, sir.
How's Denver?
What's going on there?
You know, it's fine.
actually warm, supposed to be, like it was, I didn't even need a jacket when I went out and got
coffee to 57 degrees right now.
Yesterday, it was 30 degrees warmer in Denver than it was in Atlanta.
Whoa.
That's crazy.
What's going on there?
That is crazy.
It was like 40 there and 70 here for a high.
And that, that is absolutely crazy to think about.
I woke up at, I don't know, 630 or so, and it was about 32 degrees.
This is about freezing.
And I was like, all right, I know what I'm looking forward to.
And then it got warmer.
It's 45 now.
It's going to be a high of, let's see, 62.
I mean, you know, yeah, it's all right.
I can live with that.
No, it's not bad at all.
It's kind of weird for fall, but, well, no, I guess 62 is much closer to fall weather than 70 something.
I mean, we had 80 degrees over the weekend, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah, that was weird.
You guys in your high temp that day.
We didn't get that for some reason.
Over the mountain, we were like, no, we're still.
staying cold.
Tough poop.
Interesting.
Vegas is supposed to be,
we were looking forward to like 80s, right?
Like low 80s, perfect weather.
It's super stoked.
But literally the day we leave,
the temperatures dive and the highs are about like here.
It's like 60.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
The whole time we're there.
Cold and cold, well, cold for Vegas.
Well, you weren't planning on laying out by the pool anyway.
I mean, this is going to be a, you know,
not a recreational trip.
No.
There's no real good time to be had.
Although, we are staying, let's see, I think most people leave the afternoon of Sunday.
We leave Friday, or Monday, sorry.
Monday morning.
So we are going to have a little extra time, but we're not going to do anything.
What are we going to do?
Go out to DePars, get a tasty pancake.
Dude, I think I might do that.
Yeah.
Oh, and don't send me photos.
I don't want to see it.
I don't want to know, Scott.
I might well do that.
We're actually closer to that end of things anyway
when we exit the place.
So maybe we'll do that on our way out.
And I'll try to ignore the staff
who are angry and pissed all the time.
Well, they're only angry and pissed
when we bring 43 people to DuPars.
Even though we try to tell them ahead of time,
hey, we're going to be bringing 43 people to DePars.
Yeah.
Then we do it.
They go like, we have to seat you.
You can't pick seat.
I'm like, they're going to spit in our pancakes.
These people are best.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so good and worth it, though.
It's still delicious.
You know, spit and all.
Yeah, best pancake in the West.
I'm putting it out there.
All right, I thought I was going to, I thought a streak was going to end yesterday.
Let me tell you a tale, Brian.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, and it would have been the most ironic day of perhaps my life.
Because here's how it goes down.
Yesterday for lunch, Kim's like, what do you want to do?
I'm like, let's go some more close.
I don't have a ton of time.
It was right after the Greg thing
And I was kind of pooped from that
And that was a little gnarly
Because that's our last one
And it's a whole thing
So we are just running around there
Close to the house
And she's like
Well, there's this pizza thing
There's this, there's that
What do you feel like?
And I said, you know what?
We haven't had
Cafe Rio in a long time.
I've only had it one other time
Since 2005
When I got food poisoning there
And barfed
Oh geez.
And I haven't barfed since then.
So they're responsible for my last barf.
They're the ones.
They were the ones that at the other end of this streak.
Yeah, both, by the way, both.
At the end of the streak.
Exactly.
And both trackable moments of the last time I vomited are food-related born illnesses, like
a food poisoning.
So 2005 and then back in 98 was the time before that.
Before that, I don't remember that.
But that was also food poisoning from a banquet I went to.
And so that's how I get screwed.
Generally, I'm not a yacker, as everyone knows.
We are now at a 20 year run as of July, 20 perfect years of no yakken.
Beautiful thing.
I'm proud of it.
Actually, I'm not really.
It's probably not good for me.
But whatever.
I mean, it is, it's just a, like, it's just a thing.
I mean, it's, you know.
It's more of a show talking point than anything else now.
Right, right.
So yesterday we do this.
we say, you know what, it's been 20 years.
We can go here.
Right, right.
And, you know, it was probably like a fluke.
It was probably not something specific at Cafe Rio, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Well, it was.
I mean, it was specific to them, but it wasn't something, it wasn't,
you wouldn't think it would be a regular occurrence.
You would think, all right, well, they had a bad,
I had a bad piece of chicken or a bad piece of beef or something in my.
Yeah, all it would take is just like, we, we think it was the lettuce and those salads,
but because all the kids, we all had this.
Everybody who had the same thing all got violently ill.
Oh, okay.
And lettuce was the common denominator between everybody's meals.
Yeah.
And the other one was a burrito, so it was fine.
They made good salads there, so that's a bummer.
It's their number one thing.
It's so good.
It is, yeah.
So you can see why I avoided them for so long.
So yesterday I go, all right, let's go there.
We're doing this.
Yeah.
Now, I opt not to get the salad.
I get the smothered burrito because I'm not feeling quite that.
It just doesn't sound good to me because I had this experience.
So I'm like, all right, let's just get that.
And I get this smother burrito.
Kim gets these enchiladas or something.
And it's all fine.
We leave.
And about an hour later, I start to feel really bit rotten.
Like, uh-oh.
And for a hot minute,
I thought I was going to break my streak with the place that...
With the very place.
Yeah.
I mean, how ridiculously 20 years apart,
ironic, can you get in your lifetime?
Then if that was the case, right?
It feels like, I mean, it feels like,
like, okay, I guess it's pretty much a lock that this is the problem.
Yeah, I mean, I would have said, it would have at least proof something out in my head,
whether it was true or not, I don't know.
But I at least would have said, oh, it was you guys the whole time.
But here's what happened.
I come home, I'm like, oh, I don't feel good.
And I decided to just lay down for a bit.
And I was fine.
Everything's fine.
Not sick.
I just felt a little nauseous.
I think I just horked it down too fast.
That's all.
Okay.
Well, or I was going to say, do you think,
that the that you dreaded yourself into a little bit of nausea or could be could be totally psychosomatic for
all I know yeah you know I do I do demarcate the moment pretty hardcore so why not why wouldn't my
brain even subconsciously do a little bit of you know backflip there it just seems so freaking
weird though like you know is there maybe there's a thing that they do with their sauce that
there's like an allergy kind of thing or something.
I'm sensitive to something they put in there, maybe.
Yeah, that could be.
Maybe there's less in the salad, or sorry, in the burrito than there is in the salad or something.
I hadn't thought of that, but the whole family had it, so I don't know, it just seemed.
Yeah, and nobody else yesterday got sick.
No, it was just Kim and I, and she was fine, so.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are you ever going to go back?
You're never going to go back.
You should never go back.
I think I'm done.
Yeah.
Like, even when I was in there yesterday, this is a side note, and maybe it may be,
Maybe this helped spawn the feeling I felt later.
Sure.
Which again, cleared up, no problem, no issues.
But as I walked through the line, I'm like, oh, beans are kind of crusted over.
And why is that lettuce everywhere?
And how come that sauce is like three-fourths of it slopped into the other sauce types?
Like, you guys aren't doing a banger job here.
All right, let me ask you this.
Is the, is the, it's the same location you went to?
No, no, no, no.
Different location.
Different location.
Damn.
Oh, I thought, well, maybe it's just the.
you know the management at this location is lackadaisical in their in their cleanliness well i think
they are i think i think two things are true here i think they just sound like they are yeah yeah i think
i feels like i dodged a bit of a bullet and and generally speaking the the current like review
culture around this local establishment which used to be everyone's favorite place to go yeah everybody
kind of says now something changed we don't know what happened the owners changed nobody likes it
anymore so they're like in the downs in terms of opinion um but 25 years or 20 years ago they weren't
they were like popping 20 years ago yeah you should look at their uh their yelp or their open table
like as if they're on open table but maybe their yelp scores and just see if like all of a sudden
they've they've tanked or something let's see yelp uh cafe rio and they expand like crazy so
you'd think they're succeeding wildly yeah um i mean we've the one here close to arvada is
is good.
You know,
it's not a place
I typically think of
when I think of like,
all right,
I'm in the mood
for some fast,
casual Mexican.
I will go to Kudoba.
I'll go to Chipotle.
Both of which have really good salads.
I had the Kudoba salad a couple days ago,
taco salad.
It's really,
really good.
Yeah,
I should go there.
Do you guys have one?
Do you guys have one or two?
Yeah,
we do have,
I think we have one or two.
They're not super close,
but we do have those.
Okay,
here we go.
I have an hard time
finding eating better
to two out of five here.
Yeah, no kidding.
Is that the location?
These are locations nearest me.
Two, two, two, three.
Okay.
We got a three.
That one.
Yeah, but still three is not, three is, three only looks good.
Ooh, one and a half.
One and a half, guys.
One and a half again, these are, it's not looking good.
So it used to be these guys were the place.
And everybody loved them.
And then there was some nasty divorce in the family that founded it.
And then some new owners or something.
And then half the people went.
possession of the cleaning tools and he maintained possession of the steamer trays.
She has all the rags and cleaning products and.
Well, somebody, I don't know what you came from, and I'm not sure I have the story right,
but one half of this couple or family or whatever, they went off and started a competing restaurant called,
I forgot the name.
It's not Costa Vita, is it?
Yes, Costa Vita.
That's it.
Okay.
Yeah, I love Costa Vita.
So they popped out of that and Costa Vita is pretty damn good.
And it's very similar.
it's kind of funny that um they took a lot of their ideas they really did even i don't know for whatever
reason it feels like branding and color and lay out of the store and all that stuff is very similar
between the two so yeah and they have the salads and the whole you know make their own tortillas and
they basically do the exact same kind of work they've tried to skirt around some of the naming and stuff
to not get sued or whatever but you can tell there was like a there was a real break there and
they were like well we're going to go do what's good here and we're going to do it somewhere else
And now that's the preferable place.
That gets good reviews on Yelp.
So we should have gone there.
We have one just as close to us, just the other direction.
I should have done that.
But the bottom line is the street continues.
Yeah.
I didn't get sick.
Everything's fine.
Just a little nauseous.
Nothing.
Well, we're all relieved, although probably not nearly as relieved as you are.
Yeah, that's true.
Although, I got to tell you, dude, I was prepared.
I was like, if this is it, this is the greatest.
story I could tell on the show. Oh, totally. Right. Like a revisit to the place that started it all or that
ended it all. I don't know. Like, yeah. The book, there would have been the bookmarks at least, right,
or not bookmarks. The book. What are they called? Bookends. It would have been the bookend of my
barf journey. Right. You know, my 20 year journey from Milan to Minsk. So,
anyway, so there's that. Hey, I had a quick self-promotion that I'd like to shamelessly get out of the way.
Please do. I'm going to start.
writing more um we live in an internet period where everything is two seconds long and is meant to
grab your face and shake it around and all that uh you and i still big believers that long form
uh podcasting and audio is still a great art form and so we pursue it all of those things and one
thing i don't do near enough that i used to love doing is write more so i'm going to start writing more
and i'm doing it at frogpants dot club and that'll take you to it's just a substack and it's the frogpants one
and I put up an article about what I think of
the first two episodes of
Pluribus, third comes out today, I think.
Oh, does it really?
I think so.
Yeah, that would make sense that it's a...
I can't wait.
I don't know why the day that we assumed it,
I thought it was like, oh, well, that's going to be,
this is going to be the day that every episode comes out.
But of course it wouldn't be.
Yeah, yeah.
Same.
In my head, I was like, oh, okay.
And it's also, it can be one, which sucks.
I want it to be another two.
I know, I know.
I don't want him to hurry,
anything, but I do, I just,
I just love it. I wish, you know, this is the
thing, it's like, I wish this was Netflix where we got
pretty much everything all at once.
It would be nice. It would be nice.
But I did, I did get hooked
on the new season of that. Oh, sorry,
let me let you finish on the
Oh, yeah, right. So I'll just give
you the address. It's frogpant's dot club, and in there, you
can, it's free, just go read it.
But you leave comments, tell me what you think of the show
so far. I'm going to start doing this more often.
and just like stuff I find interesting,
whether it's a movie or there's something TV show I'm into
or something that we even talk about here
might expound on it more there, that kind of thing.
So anyway, go check it out and become a free subscriber today
at Frogpants.com.
All right, cool.
Sorry, what are you going to say?
No, I was going to say that I got hooked on,
re-hooked on the reality competition that's based on Squid Game.
I think they call it Squid Game the Challenge.
Oh, yeah, I saw the first season of that. I liked it.
Yeah, and the new season just came out, and it, you know, it does this thing where it really does, it reality shows it up, right?
Like, the things that I kind of like that Amazing Race and Survivor don't do, this thing definitely does by saying, oh, we're going to make this guy look like the villain with, with, you know, capturing or only showing the audio that really puts them in a villain kind of light.
and showing reaction shots from them that are completely different to the thing that they're really reacting to and that sort of thing.
It seems very obvious with this, but it's also funny that this is the reality show that does weird, fictional, dramatized interstitials between things like constantly do the shots of all of the pink jumpsuit wearing dudes in the back room sitting at what looked like giant arc.
arcade machines just randomly pressing buttons
why they look at the screens.
It is the dokeest thing.
And they're big giant buttons, like ridiculously oversize stuff.
They're big, fat, stupid buttons, exactly.
But I'm still in for, like, all the, uh, the competitions and the thinking that goes
in behind that.
And the, I think they're pretty good.
The human stories are pretty good in this one.
There's a great father and daughter couple that, uh, that, uh, that I really like.
but uh anyway i'm totally totally hooked in that garbage uh again so that's my that's my before i fall
asleep i'm taking a break from uh neuroses of the week fraser and uh yeah and uh and watching that
although i think yeah yeah i was going to say i think i need to go to foundation pretty soon
oh yeah i loved foundation yeah i think you would also really like foundation i think i would
really like foundation i like you know i like all the actors a lot
And I like, um, I like this level of sci-fi.
So, some pretty twisty stuff.
The first season is a little uneven, but I blame it on the pandemic.
It was like disrupted in filming.
All these kind of messes were going on.
So I, you can kind of feel when that happens.
But it's still solid.
And then second season is a freaking banger.
Oh my gosh.
Cool.
Good.
All right.
So good.
Totally in.
Third is also good.
Uh, let's, uh, let's get to some news.
All right.
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Did Demon Hunter's thing
make a big splash this year on that whole deal?
It did, yeah, it's up for record of the year
and I want to say
a single, Golden is there for the single of the year, I think.
Okay.
And they do, they have a soundtrack category
or is that?
Oh, I don't.
That might actually be, yeah, it might be more of an Oscar thing when they do that.
It might be the, well, score.
You know, it's funny, the article, I was looking at this horrible article from Billboard that list everything,
but it doesn't list everything cleanly.
Like it's a bunch of garbage and then a listing of who's in that category and then more garbage and that sort of thing.
So I think if I look at Grammy Awards 2026, then,
I hate when they don't just do a simple list.
It drives me crazy.
I do too.
I know they're trying to get links or clicks and have extra stuff.
What they don't understand is the best links and clicks will come to those who simplify their damn list.
Right.
Right.
That's where I want to go.
Yeah.
Start with that.
And then if you want to put, you know, I get it.
They're not going to get people reading their stuff.
If they just give you the thing you want at the very top of the article, they reduce their engagement.
But it just still ticks us off.
And it's like, well, great, now you've, now you've made it so I don't really want to go back to your website.
Yeah, so do more around it that I could stick around and read, but give me that one thing.
I don't know.
It seems obvious to me, but.
Me too, Scott, me too.
I am no Hollywood reporter.
Let's get to this story.
Mosquitoes have been found in Iceland for the first time ever.
Oh, no.
After record heat.
Okay.
Yeah.
Mosquitoes.
Yeah.
Mosquitoes have found, we're found in Iceland for the first time after the country experienced record-breaking heat this spring.
Insect enthusiast Bjorn Haljitzen, I think.
He'll, he'd say that.
Heltison.
Heltison?
There you go.
Yeah, I don't know.
I see that H.J.
And I want to go here.
Chelteson.
I see that H.J.
and I want to go to Iceland and slap them all in the face.
Just kidding.
You guys are great.
They encountered the mosquitoes over several nights last week while using wine.
soaked ropes to observe moths, according to the local media reports.
Seems like a weird thing, doesn't it, a little bit?
It's some weird signs going on in Iceland.
Halgitzen found two female mosquitoes and one male were later confirmed to be the Colossetti annulata.
One of the few species that can cessfully survive winter, so they're known as being a little bit hardcore, but they still don't ever see them there.
Let's see.
one of only two mosquito free havens in the world prior to the discovery, partially due to its
cold climate. The other recorded mosquito free zone is in Antarctica, and they found one there.
Did they really? Wow. So they're everywhere. They're everywhere. Yeah. This global warming might
be something to it. Maybe. Maybe this is, it feels like one of those things that if you're not,
if your body is not used to mosquitoes, what does a mosquito bite do to you if you're in Iceland and
you've never been stung by a mosquito before? True. Also, it says it was in the southwest of the
Icelandic capital of Reykjavik and something called the glacial valley called Khajos.
I don't know if that means people, they don't get into whether anyone got bit.
So I don't know if this is them just going, hey, here's our wine-soaked ropes.
The wine-soaked ropes are getting a lot of mosquitoes.
Fortunately, the mosquitoes here don't know how to attack people because they're brand new.
Right on.
It's really weird, but it says, here's a quote.
I could tell right away this was something we'd never seen before.
said in the post, which was screenshoted and shared by Iceland.
I'm not going to be able to read this. Iceland's, Morgan Blow.
How would you say that? And what are those accents? I don't know. See, yeah, those, those,
that weird, it's almost like emoticons at the, uh, yeah, the end of the word. What are you guys
doing over there? Look at this chat. We make a big version of it. Look at that thing.
Someone in there is going to know how to say. Morgan bladded. Is that, are the, do you pronounce
those as D's Morgan Bladded? I don't even know.
know are those ds i know i don't know i don't know what those are they're like sixes that
are religious they got crosses on them six is getting a uh a vasectomy yeah circumcision
clear my clear demarcation where to put the blade that's right exactly uh anyway weird weird
stuff going on over there here's another story about we're we're all into the animals and creatures
today yeah uh i saw a video of this separately so
it's interesting to see the story.
Guerrilla has slammed into glass in the San Diego Zoo,
leaving visitors screaming in shock.
Jeez, do we have video?
We do.
I'm going to pull this up.
See, it is.
At least I think there is.
Oh, yeah, here it is.
So we're going to play a bit of this.
See what happens.
So here is kind of slow motion coming up to the glass.
And then, oh, that's a terrible shot of it.
That camera person's slow.
Yeah.
Anyway, it came up there and just slammed it.
Wow, and cracked it.
Which, yeah, I know, I'd be like, shit.
Grab the kids.
Okay, let's go look at giraffes.
Giraffes aren't going to break anything.
Wow.
It says, visitors to San Diego Zoo were startled when a 10-year-old gorilla.
I don't know how long they live.
Do you want to know how long a gorilla lives?
Oh, I don't know. Look it up.
Got to be longer than like a dog, right?
It's like kind of human-ness.
35 to 40 years.
Okay.
So longer than a dog.
It's like the 1850s, basically.
That's right, exactly.
Long enough to turn out a bunch of really good albums and then that's it.
That's it.
That's all you're going to get.
Although I did notice, speaking of gorillas with a Z,
new single out today.
Yeah.
Oh, today, really?
Okay, cool.
Or yesterday, maybe today.
I heard something was coming out.
So nice.
I saw a little sneaky video about it, but no song.
So I don't know if it's actually there, but I'm stoked.
I'd like more, please.
That last album was awesome.
Yeah, some of the beach.
What was it?
I forget the name.
Turtle Beach.
It was, uh,
it was them doing the,
Rockaway Beach, that's the Ramones.
What was the last Corrillas album?
I can't remember the name.
Isn't there a Corrilla's album?
Like rickety beach or shit beach or it's like,
it's like a caustic word at the top.
Yeah.
Plastic Beach.
Luz's last album.
I'm a look at it.
up because I'm annoyed. Cracker Island. Oh, not even a beach. Cracker Island. Yeah. Okay. I mean,
you know, islands have beaches. You were close. Yeah. I like where you went with it. Anyway,
there's a beach all around that island. Come on. Right. That's how islands work, damn it.
That's right. It cracked one of these thick panels. You see at zoos, they look like they're never
going to break. Like, you know, quarter, half an inch thick or something. Yeah, pretty gnarly. Zoo
officials say Denny, the, I don't know what I said the monkey. The ape.
Denny was injured and remains on our observation while the damage class is replaced.
Yeah. Yeah. The added that such displays are typically for young male guerrillas who often
burst into energetic behavior like charging, dragging objects or running sideways as part of
normal adolescent activity. And it's still, 10 years, it'd still be considered an adolescent.
So, yeah, happens. Yeah. Jeez. Yeah. I like, you know the videos I like, it's the ones when
there's a baboon in there. And one of two things,
happens the person does a magic i love these where you do a magic trick in front of the the baboon real
simple one like take a thumb off and put it back dumb stuff like that yeah and the baboon the baboons
freak out and get real close and stare at you as if they've seen the most amazing trick of their
of their existence those are really fun videos the other kind i like are when baboons see you
you make a face at it it just slowly turns around and mushes its nasty freaking but up on the
thing. Yes, right, exactly.
Pressed Fruit Bowl or whatever we used to call it in high school.
By the way, Gorilla's last album was called Plastic Beach.
Oh, what are we thinking of?
So Cracker Island was...
Was that the single?
It says Gorilla's last album is...
Oh, 2010. I'm sorry, 2010 was Plastic Beach.
Oh, that's what you were thinking of, though.
That's what I was thinking of, yeah.
Gotcha.
So you're even more correct.
We just got the wrong time.
Well, according to this,
latest album was Cracker Island 20203.
Eight that studio album, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, like, I'm off by like eight albums
or something that they've released.
They also did a song with Sparks recently.
Oh, no way.
Is it part of that out?
The Cracker Island?
No, no.
This is like in the last month.
They did a song with...
That's cool.
Yeah.
Maybe that'll be on the album.
You never know.
Oh, maybe.
yeah certainly could be i hope so i look forward to whatever art is on the front because that's a thing
you look at with those guys yeah um anyway i hope the gorilla the gorilla makes it and everything
yeah i hope so too geez that's uh it's rough yeah it's rough when you're a monkey or a ape
i mean to hit it to slam against it so hard though that you're you injure yourself geez but
that sounds like something a kid you know because they're dumb kids at 10 right they're dumb adolescent
kids like you're saying these are this is the you know like you're saying adolescent years but still
teenagers doing stupid shit at night hey guys watch this oh no i'm bleeding what do we do i don't know i'm
running because that's what you did if something got real bad you'd run when you were a kid i
remember a couple of times i got we were throwing snowballs at some cars out in front of a church
and in this church was a baptismal font and some other stuff but it was completely empty and dark in there
but we knew how to pop the door and get in there
if we needed to. Oh, geez.
So me and a bunch of these friends are out there in the snow
on a kind of a hill rise
throwing what were essentially
ice balls at these cars because it was wet
snow. Uh-huh.
And most of them would just kind of
meh, meh, meh, meh, and keep going.
Sure. One guy, though, looking like
in a Ford Maverick or some scary-looking ass,
70s-ass looking scary car.
Uh-huh.
Hit him right in the side windshield
or the side window with one of these ice balls.
It's his brakes, backs up
All the way up on the hill
So what do we do?
We scatter like flies
Perfect
He can't get all of us
No, that's how it was
There was no care for your fellow man
Nope, it's every man for himself at that point
No Marines saying no man left behind or whatever
We're just literally like
Go where you have to go
So me and this one guy ran into the building
And hid in the dark in an empty baptismal font
creepy as hell it's like a horror movie
and I we hear the front door
of this church go
just broke open
and somebody comes and goes you effing kids
we're the eff of the burp a bear
and he's freaking out and he
and then we hear one of my friends
Matt Kellogg go
I get him doing it
and then you hear this guy cussing him out
and shaking him
oh God
and then the guy leaves
so we finally decided to sneak out
he never went further in the church
came out there
and my friend Matt is on the ground holding his throat
in pain because this guy
didn't strangle him but grabbed him by the throat
and threatened him. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. And we're like, oh man,
that sucks, but none of us. Yeah. And all of you are like,
that sucks, Matt, but thank you for taking one for the team.
Yeah. If he wouldn't have said anything, do you think
was he in a place that was more hidden than you? Like would they've,
what do you've found you guys first? I think it would have taken him a while,
but he would have to, like, really hunt around the place.
Yeah.
Because it was dark, and I don't know.
Maybe he had a flashlight.
I don't know, but it was a wild thing.
And this kid, Eric, wanted to just keep going.
He's like, let's go throw some more.
I'm like, you're an idiot.
Oh, God, really?
Yeah, you're an idiot.
I'm going home is what I'm doing.
Exactly.
We dodged one ball.
It's like, you know, not trying to keep angering the bear.
Yeah, that's some horse shit.
I ain't sticking around for that.
All right.
Well, here's what I am sticking around for.
This guy.
There's still something wrong, isn't there, Bill?
Well, well, well, if it isn't Bill Duran of the famous, the wonderful, the extremely cool thing he does.
Up there, punish props.com.
Hey, it's Bill.
I think you're muted, Bill.
Are you there?
I think you muted yourself.
Billiam.
Which is totally fine.
Billiam.
It says muted.
I mean, it's fine for a little bit, but.
Oh, there he is.
Hi, Bill.
Hello.
Hi, how are you?
No, I'm not muted.
that's how I am.
Well, you're not now.
Yes.
Yeah, it's good to hear your silky voice.
What are you doing, man?
Yeah, things are pretty chill out here in Seattle.
Yeah.
Last month, though, I got to go out to San Francisco and do a little project with my pals that tested.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Do tell.
I know whenever you go out there, something rad happens.
So I assume this is true here.
Yeah, and we kept the streak alive.
So Autodesk hired tested.
to do a video showcasing
some of their products. And since I use
Fusion 360, Adam
and Norm hired me to come in to work on this
project so that we could put a whole project
of video together. There's
a video over on Tess's
YouTube channel.
It came out a couple weeks ago
for this project.
And it was really fun because
I was given a lot of the
design choices
and very little oversight.
You kind of got
Free rain, it sounds like.
Exactly. It's kind of the best way to go.
Yeah.
So the brief was they wanted to make like a mechanical eye moving model, which is great.
Now I'm seeing the right video.
All right.
I just did Bender's Eye Mech, so it's kind of been on my mind.
And they sent me a high-res 3D scan of Adam's head.
Yeah, which I have now.
Which now you can use that for all the nefarious purposes you want.
Yes, very good.
And they said, go nuts.
So I drew up some designs.
They gave it the thumbs up.
The idea was it would be a hand-puppetable eye mechanism.
So you just move it with your eyes or with your hands and it would move the eyes.
The challenge was fitting these moving parts inside of an organic face.
So none of our eyes are perfectly symmetrical and neither are atoms.
So part of the challenge was getting the mechanical eyes to be in the correct place so that it would fit in the geometry of his face, but still move around without poking out in any weird places.
So that was the fun challenge.
Yeah.
Now, I'd see you brought your, you brought your Benderhead with you in the early part of the video.
How do you scale that?
Because obviously he doesn't have giant bulbous eyes.
Right, yeah.
So for the mechanism, I started with Bender, but I ended up going with a different mechanism for me.
moving the eyes.
It's actually a much simpler mechanism, since we didn't have to attach a bunch of servos
or anything to it.
So I went with a simpler mechanism.
And then I was able to print and test all that stuff here in Seattle and get everything
working, and then I sent the files to them.
And then I flew out there.
So I flew to San Francisco to film this video and to put the whole thing together with
Adam.
But what was really fun is I did all the CAD work and the print.
printing, but Adam wanted to put some sort of analog touches on it.
So the eyes, he has scans of his irises, so he printed those on paper and he put them in
the 3D printed eyes and then printed on a resin printer a clear lens to go over it
and then covered the whole thing in a glossy epoxy to make it look like a shiny eyeball.
So it was fun because while I was there for the day to film this, he did all of that work.
So I was mostly watching him do all that.
Oh, that must have been fun, just sitting him watching him do his craft.
That's amazing.
So, yeah, he's got the eyeballs.
He's covering them in a resin.
You tried an epoxy.
You try to UV-curing resin.
And it's such a cool effect because it makes the eyes.
The eyes look real when they're wet and glossy.
They do.
That's the whole thing.
They look gross and real.
Yeah.
Yep.
The goo covering them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it was fun because we each had a thing
to work on for the project.
He did a similar thing.
We ended up making a bigger head as well.
He made, there's a knob to control the whole thing and he turned one out of
walnut on the lathe, which is also very fun.
So we were able to combine some more traditional methods with, um, with that 3D printing,
which is great.
That face is freaky as shit.
Isn't it?
I have one here.
Yeah.
I printed another one here.
It's in my house.
And it's just like giving me side eye all day.
Yeah, you got to keep that around.
You should do one of these for you, man.
Get your head in there.
Why not?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did they use polycam to do the scanning, the face scanning?
This scan was the people at BFX did this, and they probably use some really, really high-res, cool 3D scanner for it.
Also, the 3D model of his head, someone clearly went in and touched it up.
It looks really nice, but it looks a little sculpted.
So a professional digital artist went in and made it look.
Really, really good.
Sure.
But I can do the same with my own head as well.
Oh, he made it even bigger one?
Yeah.
Wow.
That was a fun surprise.
Oh, my gosh.
I had the 3D model.
It was a little, a bit of extra work, but I was able to scale it up to 2.5X, which doesn't sound that big, but it's enormous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that's freaky as hell.
Oh, that's cool.
So that's how the, I was looking at the, those, that double ring, that double O ring thing back there.
that's amazing
that's how you get the
eyesore
yeah the eyeballs
are so damn weird
yeah it looks stoned
in that shot
totally
it's like
so he did the same thing
with the big eyes
he made them all glossy
he even put red yarn
like thin bits of yarn
in there to make look
like the capillaries
in the eyes
yeah
it's really effective
wow that's amazing
so you didn't know
that was coming
he just sort of sprung that on you
uh
the big head
the big head I mean
like the
yeah did you know that was coming
I mean, I modeled
All of it
Oh, okay, so you did the big one
I'm sorry, misunderstood
I thought you were saying that he surprised you
With this giant or his head
No, no, no, it's all part of the planet
It's an extra like day or two of work to
To make the model the big one
Yeah, I imagine this thing is not
Doesn't look like a small project
I'm going to stare into its eyes all day
I know, I can't look away
It reminds me of the creature
That the album cover for Queens
News of the World
Yeah
Those eyes
Oh my gosh, dude.
It's totally good.
I was staring at that thing for days, right?
As I was 3D modeling in and I printed it.
But until you put the irises in with the gloss, it looks like a model.
But when you put the eyes in there like that, you breathe life into it.
It's really.
Yeah, it's amazing how we are so, you know, we're evolved to see eye movement and see patterns and to read people's emotions.
And so when you do this to inanimate objects, it's like, oh, that thing's kind of got a weird life to it now, you know?
so now you just need to make the robot part and you got a giant orange robot head walking around yeah yeah
and then you could um uh you could even attach servos to this thing and and run it remotely if he wanted to
it's pretty cool that's rad now you just need some blink he needs to blink his little orange eyelids
yeah oh that's it yeah that's the next thing you're uh yeah eyelids that's great that's pretty
awesome we could cast it in the face in silicone so that it's flexible and you can make the
put a little mech in the island that would be really fun
if you pull that double o ring thing back
can you make his eyes cross
I would have to
modify the mech but yeah you could definitely make his eyes cross
well that's really cool
latest video up on tested dot com as well
as their YouTube channel and I'll put a link
in quicktms.lis as well
yeah definitely worth watching that
anything you always give us a little bonus
something at the end what do you know yes yeah I got a good one
I just threw in the YouTube chat there.
Perfect.
ClickSpring is a, speaking of mechanisms, this guy is the guy.
He is a machinist, clockmaker, and he's been building the anti-Kithra mechanism using traditional
techniques from, you know, 2,000 years ago.
Oh my gosh.
And he has a new video out in the series.
He's been working on this thing for years.
And this new, the new one is a banger.
He starts adding a lot of mechanisms and putting pieces together so that they,
move in concert, which is, again, it's been years, so I'm getting pretty thrilled at the progress.
I like his lamp.
His lamp alone is cool.
Look at that thing.
He made that.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Kidding me.
This level of nerd, they're just.
And his videos are gorgeous, and he's got an amazing Australian accent.
I can't keep up with this guy.
Yeah.
I mean, if you were, I know you're into the ladies.
He married one, but I did.
I'm just saying, how about, how about this guy.
well that's great bill have a fantastic time until we see you again and i'm gonna i'm gonna rue the
the intervening moments because i love when you come on thanks for being here and uh we'll do it again
soon don't forget everybody punish props dot com and of course punish props on youtube stay out of trouble
thanks friends bye see you get a little fan going in the background a little bit yeah it's bill's
biggest fan i know it's really cool and this guy dude what a freak click spring i know these
the guys that do this whole thing where they take apart watches and clocks and things like that
and figure out the mechanisms inside that uh no pun intended make him tick yeah it's just it's just so
cool yeah just wild and he got i don't know almost 200,000 views for that it's pretty damn good
yeah uh well there you go let's do a quick email uh this is from grand master jeff
oh it's jarf isn't it or is it jeff i guess there's another one that's
a jarf. It might be him.
I don't know. It said Jeff in the thing, I just copied
and page there. He says,
Hey, Scooby and Scrappy, he
says. Where's the B?
You've got to have a B one is the idea.
Yeah, I know. That's all right.
That's fine. We'll let this one slide, Jeff. There was no
B, there was no B Scooby Dog. It was all
had to begin with us to be
to fit. So I am
just now listening to Monday's episode
Reese's Piser
and just heard Nicole
say that St. Louis has no cons anymore.
I am also from St. Louis, and I have to correct Nicole.
St. Louis has the Angine, St. Louis, which is the area's biggest anime con and has been running for 20 years strong now.
It always has famous voice actors from anime and stuff here.
Have her check it out.
Love the show, though.
I think what she meant was more of like the general not focused on just anime kind of cons.
Like the, right, like the fan X and stuff like that.
I'm more, right, as opposed to a specific anime con.
Yeah, lots of superhero stuff and Artis Alley and your typical thing that we think of when we say Comic-Con, I think that's more of what she means.
And I'm still surprised that doesn't exist there in a city like that.
Because St. Louis is big enough that it should be able to support a regular general pop culture convention.
Yeah, if they can have a baseball team, they can have a, you know, a Comic-Con.
They can put a man on the moon.
That's right.
But they can't have a Comic-Con general pop.
Filture Comic-Con.
But I did pass this on door just in case she's interested.
I'm not sure she's super into anime.
But her son is, so we could do it together, I suppose.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he'd love that.
Yeah, I'd like it.
Here is a phone call from June, not from the month of June, from someone named Jane.
All right.
More recent than June, is what you're telling me.
Yep.
And she has this to say about, we had a whole whole conversation about getting your lowers done if you're transitioning.
Oh, okay.
How much pain?
How long does it take to heal?
Oh, God.
Yeah.
All that.
I'm curious about this.
Well, she gave us a 13 second look into that world.
Here you go.
Hey, Scott and Brian.
My name's June.
I'm a trans woman.
You were talking about stuff down there healing.
Got mine done about a year and a half ago.
Healed up super fast.
Personal experience, definitely heals up real fast in that area.
All right.
So you've got to, you know, quick heal.
Oh, because we were talking about, right, how areas where things heal really quick.
We're talking about, like, the inside of your mouth has to heal really quick.
Because if you can't eat, you die.
Right.
your tongue your uh oh and someone wrote in who i don't i want to give him credit they wrote in and said
the reason for this is the amount of nerves i think blood flow maybe it was bobby somebody wrote in
about this i want to say bobby posted or post on discord or something about it so maybe he also emailed
yeah i can't remember but anyway uh may have been two people but the uh the concept is that
why your ear is so slow to heal or and sometimes never will heal
because it is
It gets less nerves
Less capillaries in there
To like blood flow to bring healing
Not to bring healing
You know what I mean people
Sure when I say that
Bring the healing
To foster healing
White blood cells all that
And then
But then you have places like the inside of your mouth
That seem quicker
We'll think about how many nerve endings
And like blood flow and stuff
Is in your face and your mouth and everything
So yeah it makes sense
There's a lot of blood flow downstairs
If you know what I'm saying
At least you'll
hope there is burn. Yeah, give me that pill four hours later. Anyway, there's that. Let's move on now
to tell. Oh, and just to remind people, if you want to send us these messages, both voice and text
and emails and all that stuff, find all of it at frogpans.com slash TMS. All of it's listed right
there and click bam, boom, you're in. For real, a mashup today. Just put the file in the folder
with my covers and then, uh, it would be that easy. Grab the cover. Yeah, it'd be that easy. If I
then remember to do that each time. I guess you have to remember to do that. But I mean,
you're remembering this step to put in the show notes, just instead of putting the show notes to
do it. So look at that. You guys got to look at our show notes here. This is what I wrote.
Absolutely huge. I blew the font up and put red on both ends so I don't miss it today. Do not ask me
why. This is something I miss. I don't know. Does it not make sense. I don't get it. The files right
here. I have other notes. I have a checklist for everyday show. And it's on that list too.
And it's also highlighted in larger pink. I don't know where my brain goes.
So today will be the day.
All right.
There you go.
Jamie, if you're listening, we got your covered, buddy.
And I think that's it.
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Brian, let's get out of here with a song.
What do you got?
Sounds good.
So if you've heard of the band,
screaming females,
well, Dober is, includes a former member of screaming females.
Got a brand new album.
Actually, it came out earlier this year,
and I had this set aside.
I don't know what I was waiting for to play it on the show.
But the album is called Falling Down.
came out via dromedary records big thanks to them and clarion call media for letting me know
about the track the new song is called making mega moves here is dauber from their album falling down
Glow, but it don't matter how bright you can glow.
It's still the fact and everybody knows.
There's no more splashing in a stream that's gotten so shallow.
Everybody's acting like they make it make a move.
But that ain't never rain.
It's only done for you and me to lose.
I mean I lose
I'm the only say
Because I know
Like we've got to play the game
Like we're crooked carnies
In the crowd
I'll pay
But I'm not that stupid
I'm not gonna pray
You said it's no fun anyway
Everybody's acting like they're making mega moves
But back and I'm playing
It's only built for you and me that hurts
I'm only saying now
Everybody's acting like they're making mega moves
Of our back and I'm playing
It's only built for you and me to lose
So don't
You want to beat the machine
What you can spend every night
Pride in your teeth
Now
Everybody's asking for you
It's not for you and need a lose
I'm only saying now
Now everybody's acting like they make it make a move
Of our attacking and I'm playing
It's only good for you and me to lose
So don't
You wanna beat the machine
We used to spend every night
grabbed in your teeth
I won't be a cock in the machine
Because I can't see
It'll motivate you
you your best believe that it ain't that I'm going to make me
once again pull up a chair as Scott and Brian share a story by the fire
what will they talk about today I got a story to tell you you're going to love this
I'm in the car yesterday running some errands and I get to a light waiting like usual
on the other side of the lane from me,
kind of far from me.
Probably a good,
you could put another car between us,
but there's not one.
Okay.
It's just going to like...
Beep, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat,
like that.
Right.
And I look over, thinking,
well, what's his problem?
He's looking at me.
His window is down.
It's cold out.
He's looking at me out of his window,
and he's making the motion
to roll my window down.
Uh-oh.
And I go, oh, he's honking at me.
So I roll down my window,
and I sick my head out,
kind of like, with my ear out,
like, what's up, you know?
And he goes,
fart gas!
And I went, I'm sorry?
Fart gas!
And he kept saying, the best I can tell, fart gas.
Fart gas.
At the top of his lungs and looked really frustrated at me.
Like, fart gas.
Was he alone in the car?
Yes.
Okay, so he wasn't like a kid trying to impress his friends and be funny?
No, it was probably a guy in his, I want to say he was in his 50s.
And he's yelling, fart gas.
And he was more frustrated every time I was like, I don't know what, and I said, I don't know what you're saying.
And it's kind of loud out there.
I couldn't, you know, I thought maybe I was just mishearing him.
And he's exasperating.
And he holds on to the edge of his window and goes,
Fart gas!
I shrugged and went, I don't know, man.
And I rolled up the window.
Okay.
Now he's pissed.
And he's kind of thrashing around the car and he's banging on his thing,
going, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, and looking at me still.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, dude, fart gas, great.
That's great.
Fart gas.
I don't know what that.
Did you maybe have any sort of interaction with him before?
Like, was, you know, were you just hearing part of, you know, effing.
A?
Well, that's what I wondered.
I wondered.
I wondered, is he yelled to me because I did something.
I cut him off.
He cut him off, right?
And he's like,
everything, er, hole.
Maybe.
Maybe, but the way he was reenunciating fart gas over and over made it seem like I was supposed to hear that.
And he wasn't saying it angry.
And not at first.
Maybe he was saying frog pants.
Maybe he recognized you.
But why would he be so mad?
Like, at the end of it, he was just like, so frustrating.
He was never smiling.
Like, hey, how's it going to any of that?
It was always just like, something bad's going on.
And for a while, I'm like, what's wrong with my car?
There's some flame coming out of the back.
Or there's some terrible wheel half off or something's going on because I,
I may not understand what fart gas is, but whatever it is, it can't be good.
Yeah, I don't know what was going on, but I finally, I pulled away, he turned the other direction, and that was the end of it.
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