The Morning Stream - TMS 2920: Pass

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Tickled Out of Existence. I Need More Proteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeein! Pink Johnson. Scott's love of meat is renowned. You WILL DRINK your warm milkshake!! The Better End of the Baseball. The Kingdom of Utah. Spitz It Out. Nurri is not a paid sponsor... yet. Is This a Soda For ANTS. Best Dam Bikeride. Sheep Dip Mountain: Taste the Wool! Hank Seinfeld and Jerry Hill. Fresh Hot Dunaway. A Whiff Of An Aroma with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It is the morning stream, I am a multiverse agent. 12th, 2025. I am Scott Johnson. That is Brian. Hello, Scott. How are you? Don't forget to turn off the little pre-show brand here. Oh, yeah, good idea. I'm tickling. Oh, there it goes. Tickled that out of existence. Yeah, all it took was a little, little, look at us. Coming back for more. I'm glad you saw that. Hey, everybody, welcome back. It's a show. It's a Wednesday. We hope you're all doing good. We got a pack show. All kinds of fun stuff coming up. Yeah. It's been a crazy week. I got a, it's been a crazy week. I got, lunch today with Kevin though with the KT data oh that's nice yeah looking forward to it we've been

very cool I had to do it last week I had to put it off for stuff stuff with my mom and then now now it's it's holding today it's holding we're going good you go and do uh I know you can eat dim some place and just uh put the place out of business or something I think we're just going to go to this uh Greek place called oh spitz oh cut I know it's a terrible I'm sure it is spit z because it's you know because the liberal use of the letter z in the greek it is absolutely a z but it's still kind of gross to say right yeah yeah like it like uh the idea is they got all kinds of meat on a spit you know yeah that whole thing but uh it's a good place i like it a lot i just hate the freaking name i hate it i hear next door is a place called swallows uh it should be

they're best of friends ice cream place yeah they're best of friends they're connected like an a and w and a KFC. That's how works. Right. Yeah, right. Exactly. A window where they can pass food back and Yeah, there you go. Perfect. That's what you want in this life. Hey, I got to, speaking of food, I got a recommendation. Oh, let's hear it. Costco has these things. You buy them in a case because it's Costco. It's a dumb thing to say, of course they're selling a case. I'm not big on like, hey man, you want to really beef up your protein intake, get this big old barrel of stuff, powder and put it in a drink and stir it up and drink it. Like, I'm not really one of those guys at all. Of course.

But I found this thing that was recommended to me. However, when it's pre-made and it's in a can, I don't mind it. So this is not a paid sponsorship, but I like this Nuri brand. They make strawberry, chocolate, vanilla, and I can't remember the other one. Strawberry is my favorite. But basically, one gram of sugar. Okay. So hardly any sugar.

30 grams of protein and other good stuff, not a bunch of weird names. you can't, you know, say it's like zinc and magnesium, phosphorus, vitamin A, potassium, blah, blah, blah. And it's an energy drink or? No, more like a, you're trying to not necessarily put on muscle mass. I guess it could be because if people want to do that, they're taking a lot of protein in. But for me, for whatever reason, I'm a little protein deficient,

according to my doctor. I don't get enough of it, even though my love of meat is renown. I love the meats, you know. Sure. But, you know, just a little low on that. So she recommended trying, you know, try to beef it up, try to get something. So I found these and I was like, zero or one gram of sugar. That's nothing.

Yeah. And these are great. So they're called Nuri and they're taste amazing. That's the other thing. They taste great. They normally they're chalky and terrible, but really, really good. 150 calories, 10 vitamins and minerals per can, one gram of sugar. Lactose free, grade A lactose free.

Wow. Yeah, no farty farts for those who suffer. No farty farts. Yeah. Yeah, which one? So you were holding up a chocolate, or was that the strawberry? It's hard to tell in here. But they have strawberry, chocolate, and vanilla.

All of them are quite good. We got a case of each. They're not too expensive. And they're kind of the tall cans, you know? Yep. And refrigerating, though. And it's a little kind of red bowl. Oh, yeah, no, we can't.

Listen, it's a thick and liquid. this boy to the yard i yeah yeah i don't think i would want you to drink this warm in the room that would be bad but um i'd have to put i have to put all the headphones down but if you're like hey it's i'm rushing around in the morning i need some calories also i need protein whatever it's just a good good little thing so i really like him i might have to go and uh try it out every once in while you find something and you're like oh this is nice i like these and that's you know was uh yeah um interested in checking out ben stiller apparently has a soda line what's it called I think it's called stiller soda oh yeah there it is stillers uh natural soda uh Shirley temple lemon lime and root beer so it's kind of like a similar um all natural no biotic zero guilt sodas for real soda lovers 12 uh what's this there's the sugar like low calorie low sugar kind of thing right something closer 30 calories looks like yeah there we go 30 calories that's not bad yeah that's not too bad I mean what it's normally it's normally

For a can of Coke, it's like 75 or 100 or something. Exactly, yeah. So, um, oh, look at this picture, dude. Oh, my gosh. I know with Ann Mera and, uh, and Jerry. Look at Jerry. Look at that. Oh, so dude looks exactly the same 50 years ago.

You know, he's just got to look to him, man. He really does. That's great. Who was, uh, who was his mom? Is that his mom? Anne Mira. Yeah. I didn't know Ann Mera was his mom.

Yeah. I didn't know that. What do we know? Like, what did we see her on it? Was it match game? It was some game show. Maybe it was really just like tattletails where they all looked like Arnhem Zola with their husband's face in their chest.

I forgot about that. Bert Convey's, uh, tattletails. Oh my gosh. That is a thing I've not heard in a long time. Right. Wow. That's awesome. I would try one of them.

I'd try a stiller soda. We'll have to see. I'll have to try stillers and I'll have to try Nuri. Yeah. They're all over the East Coast it looks like where you can What do they have actual? These are locations?

Weird. Putting classic soda back on the map. Find them in the tri-state area. So here's a, so Amazon has a 12 pack of all three flavors for 20, for 30 bucks. It's a little on the high side,

but, wait, all three flavors. How many total drinks? Total 12. Like it's, it's not 12 of each. Yeah,

it's 12 total. It's way, we're talking about the nerrier, the sodas. No, the distillers. No. I got a nice little Costco right by me.

I'm going to go get that there, but... Yeah, that's too much for those. That's way too much. If I can find it, yeah, I mean, there's no... We'll have to see if there's... We got it. You know what, if we've got some East Coasters who just want to grab a can

and send one to us to test on the show, we'd try Stiller's own, lemon lime, Shirley Temple and root beer. What's a Shirley Temple taste like? What is that? A Shirley Temple is, isn't that you're seven-up and cherry and Grenadine? Oh, I don't know.

Oh, yeah, yeah. If I hover over it, I get, duh. I ask you this question, and then I immediately, so there it is. And then I'm like, oh, let me, oh, shit, there it is. Cherries and Sprite-ish. As a kid, I used to think it was cherry, like basically Cherry Coke, was Shirley Temple. I was so wrong. Yeah.

And I asked for it. Oh, I like how the message from the founder is like a 1990s era. Oh, this, yeah. Yeah. This Windows 95 looking thing. Netscape Navigators. gator looking yeah it's really I'm surprised that's not real player

and this is stillers oh shit okay geez damn right in the face um with ben stiller also it looks like a I don't know this feels like a weird offshoot like a like one of those viral sites to help sell the next season of severance or something

right like it's fake like uh right something about it I get the notification that that new orphan black thing is coming this week it's the one with um oh i hadn't heard jessica jones uh ritter christin ritter oh really a new like a return to it yeah like a new a new offshoot of the orphan black storyline i had no idea oh here we go orphan black cat let's see wait uh see with the cult series now streaming on netflix okay that's not it i liked that

show i did for a while um i may have petered out too what was the problem there the end. I don't know. I think it just got repetitive. I mean, I loved all the different characters that she was playing, but then it just, you know, it just got a little too, I don't know, repetitive. Let's see. Orphan Black Echoes. Is that the new one? What's the, um, I don't see it anyway. Dr. Calhoun says, didn't they come out last, like last year? Is this, so is it just coming to Netflix and it was, oh yeah, there we go. Kristen Ritter. Oh, okay. I thought this was new. This is, um, just, New to streaming?

Just new to Netflix, I guess. AMC, AMC Plus. Oh, all right. Cancelled after one season, as Calhoun said. No wonder we've not heard a thing about it. Yeah, it's funny. Netflix didn't, they failed to give us all the information that we needed for this. I did a Google search and got orphaned black bear cubs released after rehab.

That's pretty good. All played by Tatiana Maslani. Yeah. Well, she's really talented, Brian. She's so versatile. It's She-Hulk and she's in that new Osgood Perkinsdale. Perkins deal, yeah.

I don't know about that one. I'm nervous about it. I am too. I don't like people being trapped and can't get out and tortured potentially and all that. I don't like, I'm not into it. We'll see. Got to be better than that weird Nick Cage performance in his last one.

Oh my gosh. The long leg, long legs. Well, I hear tail. I hear through the grapevine. There's a plan for the MS-150 next year. I have a plan, Scott. Yeah. So, all right.

So the MS-150, Colorado is turned out that moving, you know, having Lertacular earlier in the month bit me in the butt with the fact that, oh, that's when MS-150 decided to move theirs up, too. There was, we had a MS-150 top 150 donors dinner last night or happy hour, yes, it was, not really a dinner. And so she and I went to that right before Puzzled Pite and had some drinks and chatted with some of the other cyclists and the woman who is head of the Colorado MS-150, a woman named Erica. She's fantastic. She's really, really nice. And so I said, so I got some bad news. I've got a conflict for a conference that takes place that same weekend. She's like, well, what is the conference during this? a day, is it at night? I said, well, most of the stuff I'm doing is at night. She's like, so could you do the ride in the morning and then fly out to Salt Lake City and do the night stuff of the conference? And I said, well, actually, no, I can't do that. None of that actually took place. But she did say, well, as an alternative, because I was saying, but I'm going to find another, I'm going to still train and fundraise like I'm doing the ride. And she's,

like well let me tell you something we've got a brand new ride or one that that she's going to be brand new to running so she's going to be running Colorado and hopefully running this one and guess where it is Scott it starts in Logan Utah oh and it actually is on the last weekend of June 27th and June 28th starting in Logan Utah it's called the Harmon's best damn bike ride because I guess it goes over a dam yeah and Harmon's as far as I know Well, maybe I don't know. Harman's is a huge grocery store chain here, so I wonder if that's them. Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. It's like it's sponsored or something by that. Maybe. I don't know. But it's the last weekend of June. That's a place that I can drive to with my bike and then do the ride the next day. So like I, you know, I drive there on Friday, relax in the hotel, get up Saturday morning, do the ride, go back to the hotel, crash, get up the next morning, do the ride, do the ride again and um and i think barb and george probably i can talk them into doing this one since

they want to come to nerdtacular as well uh i've got hopefully you know a couple cheering sections that'll show up at places along the route depending on where it uh where it goes so uh anyway that is the plan right now i'm still gonna fundraise for the denver ms 150s so i start my page on that pretty soon and um so you guys you know when that starts up you guys you guys you know when that starts up you I'd love it if he's still donated to my page, but I'm going to do the training and do the ride. It looks like at the Harmon one. And the day two stuff isn't as scary. So day one, they've got 35, 47, 73, and 100 mile routes, and I would probably do the 73. And then day two, there's only two choices 19 and 50 1950 um and uh I think I would do the I think I would be okay

doing the 50 honestly yeah I mean and that's basically what I did last this last year is I did 75 the first day and then I did 50 the second day and because I just got wiped out so so Logan's about I don't know hour and a half north of me are they I think the right I'd have to take a look and see where the ride goes, but it might go down into Salt Lake City. Yeah, I was curious about that. Yeah. Let me know as you know more.

We'll figure out something cool to do because that's kind of awesome. It's also beautiful. And that time of year, this is the kind of place I would never send anyone during the winter months because Logan is miserably cold and windy. But in the summer, oh, it's beautiful there. Really?

Amazing. Oh, looks like it goes north. So goes, um, starts out here. I'll give you a link to the, um, the map.

The map, the map, the map. give me the map and the map then the map an RTMS discordant folder right there excellent here it is 73 mile there we go click it yeah okay

so it goes oh it goes north first way up north to like close to the borders I'm guessing that's Idaho right probably Idaho I'm thinking here it's not loading for me for some reason oh really okay

I don't know why it's just hanging there. I'll figure it out. But yeah, I'm guessing that's the border. That should be the border of Idaho, I think. It looks like the border of Idaho up by Lewiston and Cornish and Parkston and Trenton, Sheep Dip Mountain. Oh, man, I never get up there. I've always worried about a place called Sheep Dip.

Just a little word. Sheep Mountain, yeah. And then comes back down south and then goes east to Logan. So, yeah, looks like it is, looks like it doesn't go any, further south than Logan so it wouldn't come down to Salt Lake City unfortunately but it's cool so they expanding just in general like are other cities getting things there's there's been a lot of other cities the one I was thinking about doing was New Jersey New Jersey it's called Coast the Coast and it's um that's probably awesome yeah it's a ride down the the coastline of new

Jersey past all the boardwalks and the beaches and the casinos and all that stuff and that would be ideal if it wasn't a matter of getting my bike out there right because i'd want to use my bike i don't want to rent a bike for this yeah and um uh i don't want so you know this one being a drive just to drive over the mountains just drive past uh uh green river because it'd have to go the north way to go to logan yeah but um yeah piece of cake yeah right grab a little sushi on the way and you're all set right exactly yeah all right well more details as we get closer but yeah exactly the important part Right now, that's looking pretty likely. All right.

There you go. Because I need, I'm going to get, I'm going to be a fat pig if I don't. Frikin start changing my ways and preparing for a ride. I feel the same here. I got to come up with something new to, I've plateaued again. I got to find a new way to, I know what I have to do. Listen, I'm glad you've plateaued. Oh, you have frozen for, you've frozen for me too.

Oh, did I freeze? To open that, yeah, whatever you did to open that bike ride. path. That's weird. Yeah, it must have been something. It might have actually been tied to that. Let's see what happened. Connect the device. It says I've disconnected from my video. Why? How come? What's the deal? Yo? What's the deal? What's the deal with the camera? All right. It's funny how my, my Seinfeld is half Seinfeld, half Hank Hill. What's the deal?

Okay. Oh, look at that. You've turned into a bowl of coffee. A swirling bowl of coffee. Never had that happen before. Okay. Connection was lost. Please plug in. I did. And now I look weird.

Okay, great. Oh, you just... I think I look a little pale. I look a little paler than I did. Yeah, your color is slowly starting to come back. Well, thanks a lot, Internet. Yeah. Oh, there we go.

Cool. That's good enough. I look more pink there. All right. Hey, guess what, everybody? We got Brian Dunaway coming in hot. Let's play his thing and get him going. Yes, that means it's time for welcome this weirdo in the room.

Hello, Brian, Dunerway. What are you doing? Oh, hi Scott and Brian. Oh, hi Scott. Pink colored pink. Pink Johnson? Yeah. Pink Johnson.

You like a little pink Johnson? That was really weird. I've never had my camera do that. But I honestly, I do think it was trying. There was something in the JavaScript on that site. Something in trying to load that thing that just said, I'll take over from here. Don't mind me. Yeah.

Oh, was you, I'm just going to take over and use your camera. Totally not going to peep on you. Do we heard of peepers? Well, I'm going to peep on you. Yeah, Mr. Johnson. A little bit of peepin. I think we're safe. It is the ride with GPS website.

It's a site, you know, used by. No, safe. No, no. No, not safe. Not safe. Okay. All right. Done away.

As soon somebody is watching. Done away from his, his, his IT professional position telling us to watch out for all websites. All right. I'll do our best. Hey, man. It's good to have you here. going to play a game. Brian Dunner, Ibit rather, is going to explain

who we're playing for, what we're playing for, all that fun stuff, Brian taking away. I'm a hibbet, rather. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian, you can have to break the answers they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. The player with the most points at the end of the

game wins a prize for their contestant, and I've pulled contestants from our support is on Patreon at patreon.com slash TMS. Well, Scott did, really. Yeah. That's true, but that's fine. We do it jointly, you know? I, you know, I read this stuff the way I wrote it years and years and years ago. Scott, you're going to be playing for old hands while you're going through.

Jeez. Yeah, right. Right then. Okay. Scott, you're going to be playing for Barry Folk. Oh, Barry. Hold on. We're going to play a little Barry just because it's required.

Barry. There you go. Barry. Brian, you're playing for CHAP. Chapp. I don't have a good chip. It doesn't quite have the same. You bet it's not Chet, but I'll take Chip.

Chips, okay. Hey, I know a Chet. He lives up the road, and his name is Chet. I've never known a Chet. I know Chet. You know Chats? I don't think I know any Chats. He's a twin with his brother, Chris.

Chris and Chet. Well, Chris got the better end of that baseball. Not a phrase. Not really a phrase, but it works, I think. The better end of that baseball, sure. Let's get to the game here. Put your hands on your buzzers. We asked 472.

Padpoolers. Buzz in, buzz in and say, Brian, what are you afraid of? Yeah, what are you afraid to do it? It's chicken. You need a little bit of chicken?

I'm chicken after last week. Hey, here's a topic that will make you squirm. Here we go. Yes, what? Right. Tell me the most offensive.

Yeah, tell me. Tell me the most defensive thing you've ever seen. Nope, this one's a lot easier. Put your hands on your buzzers and give me your best answer to this. We asked 472 tadpoolers, which character from the office would you be,

most willing Brian. Most willing, Jim. All right. Show me Jim. Number two answer. Oh, look at this.

I'll repeat the whole question for Scott. Which character from the office would you be most willing to bank? No, I'm kidding. Would you be most willing to work with? Oh. Oh, Jim's great. Pam.

All right. Show me Pam. Number one answer on the board. We just watched Pam a few weeks ago. on film sex. We did. Yeah, she had a brief role in that there. Slither. Slither. She was dating the dude, dating gun. We're married. Married. I think. Yeah, I think they're married. I don't know what happened there, but it seemed like it should have lasted. All right. Well, let's, let's see. Who do I want to remind me that I've been wanting to do an office rewatch. So this is perfect. Yeah, this is good. Good.

This is good. Too bad you hadn't already started your office rewatch. It might have helped. Yeah. Might have helped. I want to, I'm going to go for some of the deep. deeper points here and say, Kevin, I hope Kevin's on. Kevin, okay. Kevin dropping his chili. It's the only thing anyone thinks of is the chili. It's so iconic. It's one of the, like, I'm not a slapstick fan, but that was some brilliant.

I know a slapstick. Show me Kevin Malone. Good job. Number eight answer on the board. Good points. Now I take a risk here, because I think a joke pick would be a good pick. Sure. Saw him on a recent episode of Smiling Friends.

Let's go with. creed are you on season three i am on season three it's an amazing season a member of the band the grassroots if i remember correctly creed brat right the guitarist for uh for the band uh should it'd be better if he was a member of the band creed show me creed oh number nine good job your your strategy is paying uh yeah because there are many people right like it's how deep down this rabbit tempted to go. It's not in like a forever list. And also, I guess I need to ask, maybe you,

what you say will tell me, but is this U.S. office only, or is this British office or any other? It is a tadpool. I'm pretty sure. It is what character from the office would you be most willing to work with? It's not a non-specific to this or the other side of the pond. All right. The Kimmy Schmidt girl, I can't remember her character name.

Oh, we can't see the, what? Oh, they can't see the board. Oh, I'm sorry, chat. There you go. release the board files whoever the Kimmy Schmidt actor is her character. Can I do that or am I? Judges

All right, we're going to allow it. Because the judges apparently didn't disagree. Ellie Kemper is the actress, by the way. And the character she played was Aaron Hannan. Show me Aaron Hannan. That is the best you could do. It is. I know.

It's like, that's why I was hesitant. It's like, well. Is there even any way for me to, at this point, three, four, five, six, seven, one, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Ten, eleven, twelve. Yes, if you run the board, and you can still win it. I don't see how he couldn't run the board. There's like, I know, I know.

There's only so many, right? Right. Okay, I'm going to go with, uh, um, uh, um, well, let's, let's do David, not David, Michael. That's the guy I work with on products. Uh, David. brent or not david brent not the michael david david brett yeah what i'm mixing him up michael's shut up somebody reboots scott he's stuck in a loop dunaways dunaways ruining it

hold on i'm gonna tie he's gonna tie back in a second michael scott is it michael scott there you go there you go is that you're gonna say i don't know i can't remember it i'll say korel michael's you got it i'll say michael's no it's david brent no hey michael's Shut up. David Brent's the British one. That I know for sure. Why can't I think of Steve Ferrell's character? All right.

I'll say David Brent. Let's try it. Oh, don't do that. No one wants to spend time with him, but do it. Show me David Brent. David Brent number 12, by the way. You literally said Michael Scott. That was perfect.

Did I have it right? You had it right. Yeah, you had it right. It's hilarious because my name's in it. And I couldn't think it was right. All right. I think, yeah,

I think Michael Scott's good. I think that's, is that what you're going with? Yeah, let's go with the mouse. Show me Michael Scott. That's what she said. Yep.

Number six. Okay. 28 points for Scott, eight points for Brian. Still, I know he's the butt of the joke. Actually, no,

there's no way you can win. There's 19 points left on the board and you're trailing by 20. That's okay. That's okay. We want to win some prizes for these people. So that's what's important. I'm,

since I don't really have anything to lose. I think Dwight. I kind of actually think it'd be fun to work with Dwight. It'd be fun to, it'd be fun to do all the horrible crap to Dwight. Jim Halpert stuff, right? Yes, exactly. Yes. Your Bears beats Battlestar Galactica. Show me, Dwight Shrut. Number four. Okay. All right. And I got to say, I can't, I'm going to go, I'm going to go a warehouse, Daryl. I think, because he's like, he's one of my favorite people. I love him in Brooklyn, 9-9. He's hilarious, yes. Yeah. Oh, Robinson. What's his name? Oh.

Robinson. Anyway, his name is Robinson. Something, Robinson. I can see his name of the credits. I can see him in the haunted hot tub right now, the time machine or whatever one. Very good. Show me, Daryl. Daryl Philbin.

Yeah, Craig Robinson. That's right. Oh, Craig. What did you say? What name was? Craig. Craig. That's it.

That's it. two answers left on the board that'd be pretty impressive to run the board with only one strike making sure I'm not being a jerk here Pam's at the very top she's a lady you've got Aaron at the very bottom that's fine

we got a girl sandwich going on in the office that's what she did um maybe have Michael Scott in the middle that was perfect go ahead that's perfect it's perfect uh I personally just Stanley makes me laugh every time

because he's my spirit animal he's my spirit animal but I don't want to because we already talk talked about another character last week. Go ahead. Do it. Let's see. Let's see if we got Stanley up here. Stanley. Show me. Stanley's over the corridor doing his crossword puzzle. Number three.

Answer on the board. Nicely done. I think we're going to fill this out. 22 points for Brian, 28 points for Scott. One answer left on the board. And I love everybody else in the middle. But I got to say that Oscar playing the straight man

in most of this. I know. I know. Kind of a funny, funny phrasing. Ironically, right. We talked about them last week. So Oscar, I think, is maybe our last one up there. The only character who went from the office to the paper. That's right. Show me Oscar Martinez.

That's it. The gentleman that's running the board right there. Well done. Nice job, everybody. We haven't cleared the board a bit. Look at it. Oh, it's been a while. 28 to 27.

I know. That is, I think that might be the closest you can do. wild because you can't I don't think there's a way to tie well maybe there is a way to tie there probably is now that I look at it you probably could let's look at some of the rest of the answers you already got number 12 David Brent your bonus answer would have been Tim Canterbury oh Tim is the the British gym exactly yeah he was great but I also did bump down don't know or never watched the office I haven't seen one episode all those people All those answers got grouped into. I don't know.

Well, because I forced them to answer the... Okay, I get you. They have to put something instead. And I tell them, just put the word pass. It's easier for me to sort. It's easier for me to find. But do they listen? No, they don't.

Never listen. You know what. It's easier for them to type, too. I know. P-A-S-S. That is not a hard thing to type. That's all you have to type. 52 people.

So more than the number of people who want to work with Stanley Hudson have never seen the office or don't know. Also, none, or I hate all these people, or I can't stand that show. 11 people said that. So more than Aaron. I do not love Meredith. I mean, she's such a weird no intraction, and I love it. I don't, that's a weird, that is one of the most popular sitcoms in American television history.

Maybe that's a problem. And I'm shocked how, yeah, it's probably the problem. People don't like overly popular things, yeah. 15 was Phyllis, 16 was Toby. A lot of people said Toby, the reason they'd want to work with Toby is because he's quiet, keeps to himself, and he just gets things done. Yeah, that's true. Toby's great. Yeah, which is also why some people said they want to work with Dwight Shrut because he just gets things done.

He may be, he may be horrible, but he at least he gets things done. Yeah, in a real situation, I would hate Jim, and I would love Dwight probably. Right. Karen Filippelli, who's your Quincy Jones's daughter, Rashida Jones. Oh, Rashida, yeah. Kelly Kapoor, number 18, Angela, number 19, all our cats, Asian Jim. Oh, I just forgot about Asian Jim. Yeah, I'd love him, dude.

Don Tinsley, who's your British Pam, even though Pam is really the British, or the American Don. Gareth, also from the UK office, Holly Flacks. Did you say Jan already, or no, no, Jan? No, no Jan. Jan was not on here at all. I know, I'd like to dig. Jamba, Hubba. Holly Flacks.

You say Ryan Novak, the showrunner? No, B.J. Novak, not even, did not even make it on the list. A computer was number 25. Andy Dwyer, Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration. Oh, I love Bob Vance. That's a good one. Michael Bolton, somebody got confused with office space. Moes, Dwight's brother, Moes.

Robert California, who I think was the Will Ferrell character. Oh, no, was that James Spader. I think that was Spader. I think that was Spader. Sue? I don't know. I don't either. Did they get, oh, wait, Sue was, what's her name?

No, it's what's her name with the dogs, right? The own the paper or own the office of the company for a while. Oh, Kathy Bates. Kathy Bates? That right? It might have been. Sue was it. I don't know.

Maybe it was the Edress Elba character. His name was Sue. We all forgot. It could be. And finally, the documentary crew. Good job, everybody. Very nice. Nice, everybody. You did it.

So that means people won some prizes. Brian, tell them what they've won. Well, let me tell you. Barry, it was our big winner today. He won a copy of the Night of the Rabbit and Liberated on Steam. The Night of the Rabbit's like, isn't that a kind of similar to King's Quest? What is that, text adventure kind of thing? Oh, I don't know. Sierra style. That one I'm not familiar with it.

I think it's newer, but it might be that style. I'm not sure. Maybe that style. I don't think it's by Sierra, unless I'm thinking of something different. totally different. Liberated is the other one that he won, so congratulations Barry. But don't worry, Chip, you are also getting a game that we were all warned about as kids. It's called

Talk to Strangers. Oh, yeah. Comes complete with a theme by Rick Springfield, I hear, so that should be great. How good. Well, he's still out there kicking it. So be like Rick Springfield and quit picking on Jerry's girl or, no, Jesse's girl. Jerry's girl. Don't pick on Jerry's girl either.

Yeah, don't be doing that. All right, well, Dunaway, here's the good news about all this. These people have won, but you and I also so win because later today, 4 p.m. Mountain Time, you and I will be doing an episode of Play Retro where we cover the great Max Payne. That's right. The 1990s. No, 2001, the same year

as last year's Halo that we or last week's episode of Halo we did. So 2001, man, doing some Max Payne. I'll play on the Xbox again. But I want to also just get a little tease. We'll be talking about assignment, the electronic handheld game. Remember that thing?

Oh, nice. If you show up early, You'll get to hear it, or if you're a patron supporter, it's pretty good. That's a pretty good Simon impression. Holy shit. Didn't know you had that in you. Yeah, come early and stay late. That's right.

It's play retro today. 4 p.m. Brian Dunaway, I would like to require you to do the following. Kiss my butt. All right, he's out of here. All right, everybody. Well done. It's time for us to do a little tech.

Isn't technology wonderful? That's right. It is. It can be, I guess, is what I would say. but only if Tom Merritt's involved. Tom Merritt, welcome to the show. Well, thank you for having me, Brian, Brian, Brian Scott, Scott.

Oh, man, it's good to have you here. Brian, Brian, Brian Scott, Scott. Still too many Bryans, but it's fine. You know what we need more? Tom's. How many more Tom's can we get? There's been a few. I'm just saying. There have been a few Tom.

What? There are other Tom's? What? This one is ours, though. This one is ours. There are many like it. Yeah, this one is ours. Well, Tom has been coming on the show forever to talk about

technology news and interesting stuff going on. He hails from the Daily Tech News show, of course. But recently, we've been taking some of your questions. Yeah, this is a fun new wrinkle. Yeah. Yeah, I'm enjoying this one. This is pretty good. Yeah.

And this one's a pretty solid one. I'm going to go ahead and read it here. This is from, let me scroll down. Pondar the Great is his name. Thank you, Pondar the Great for this. I would like to know what makes you great. He says, that he wrote in.

This is what makes him great in my book. Yeah, in our book, you're already, great, but, you know, I'm curious about your name. Anyway, he says, how should businesses adapt, given the general data protection regulation or GDPR in Europe being reportedly weakened by some upcoming amendments? What, oh, and what does that mean for U.S.-based tech firms operating internationally? Does it impact individuals much? Love Tom's segment, says Pondar the Great.

Tom, we've talked a little bit in the past about the GDPR and its impact and what it means and what companies had to do and all that. But we haven't. Honestly, this question came to me and I went, oh, there are amendments coming. I didn't realize they were going to do that or there were some changes maybe proposed. And when I talked to you over text,

it's more complicated than that. So tell us more about this and how it affects our European neighbors. Yeah, this is one of those stories that is both really simple, but if you want to fully understand it, more complicated. And if anybody doesn't understand GDPR, it is, as Scott said,

the General Data Protection Rule? Now I can't remember. What is the... General Data Protection Regulation. Regulation. Regulation. Thank you. And essentially, it mandates privacy. It says if you're operating in the European Union with European Union citizens, you have to follow these rules.

And we won't go into the rules. But the rules are about getting consent to collect information, minimizing the amount of information you collect, informing people. what you're doing with their information, those kinds of things. It's the reason why at a lot of websites, you go and you get a big pop-up that says, hey, we want to collect information. Which one of these do you want to let us do? That's a result of GDPR and other rules like it around the world. California has a rule like that as well.

Since April, Politico particularly has been bubbling up these sources that there is a movement to change the GDPR rules. Now, on one end of the scale, and that's the scale Politico operates in, it's described as knifing them, gutting them, watering them down, you know, all of that. On the other end of the scale, if you ask people in the EU and you could get them on record to talk about it, you'd hear them say, they are too onerous right now. It's causing businesses to have to move slowly. It's one of the reasons you see every time there's a big announcement of a new feature.

It's not launching in the EU yet, and it takes several months for it to launch. And now that they have road tested GDPR, I think reasonably feel like, hey, we should make some adjustments. There are certain things that may not really protect people that we're requiring people to do. Maybe we can change those sorts of things. What really gets people up in their feelings is the idea that they would change how this works for AI companies and training data and things like that. And training data is really interesting because if you put data in a training data set, it doesn't actually live there. It doesn't get stored there. It gets broken up into pieces and stored as relationships.

And then you can reconstruct it, which could be a privacy risk, but it doesn't actually sit there in its original form. Anyway, there is, this is the short answer to the question is nothing. companies should do nothing yet to prepare for these changes because these changes haven't even been proposed yet we don't even know what the changes are actually going to be what we have is Politico getting a hold of some internal documents of the debate over what the changes should be and among those would be softening up the rules on what can be included in training data, refining the definition of what counts as personal data and maybe loosening up what companies can collect as basic data versus sensitive data, changing those.

And if you're Politico, you're looking at this and you're saying, I think these are bad changes. And some people may look at them and say, I don't know, they're reasonable. If you're me, you're saying, I don't know what they are. This is a bunch of emails and draft documents of people like, like, what if we did this? What if we did that? The draft proposal is expected to officially be put before the European Commission next week, November 19th. And then once that's presented, then it has to pass muster with the EU countries and its lawmakers who are likely to kill it. Because a lot of these countries already, just on the whiff of an aroma of possible changes, have said we would be against it. We don't think there needs to be any changes to the GDPR. So that's why I say, don't worry. about it at this point. Wait until next week if you even want to see what they're proposing, and you're going to have to wait quite a bit longer before you find out what they might actually even try to put to a vote. So we're quite a ways away from anything getting changed.

Estonia, France, Austria, and Slovenia are firmly against any rewrite of the GDPR, and especially France there, has a lot of influence overvoting. Germany is kind of behind these changes, which Germany are usually very privacy protective. So that is interesting to note that there's a little bit of a change in Germany's stance on this. But don't forget that even if it makes it through the proposal and the voting and gets put forward as a new EU regulation, Max Schrems and his group out of Austria are the ones who pushed for GDPR, who have challenged exceptions to the GDPR, who are constantly taking these things to court if they don't think they protect consumers. So it would have to survive that legal challenge as well.

Okay. So this is going to show my weakness and understanding European governance currently under the EU and its rules. But if let's say France in the way that California recently kind of said, we're going to have our own privacy laws about, you know, some state laws about AI stuff and privacy. We're going to, could France say that? Could they say, we're going to have our own little thing, sub-thing in the union? Yeah. Yes and no, and I'm not well-versed enough on how the EU system works to tell you exactly where the borderline is between yes or no. I know that countries can put their own regulations that are a little stricter. France has got a few like that. But there are,

also being a member of the European Union means that you agree that when something goes through these regulations that you will abide by them. So there's limits on what they can do on their own. And I don't really know exactly how to characterize those limits, honestly. But it's probably less than what the states in the United States can do. Yeah, I would assume so. We're real big on, we're real big on at least saying states' rights are important. It just sort of depends on the issue.

In some ways, the countries of the EU have more sovereignty. And so there might be situations where France could make something happen that I'm unaware of. Usually with these kinds of regulations, they tend to want to harmonize them because that's the idea of the common market is that you're playing on one playing field. It's kind of like when you have a U.S. federal law and then you say like, hey, the U.S. federal law trumps all the state laws. The reason California can have its own law right now is there isn't a U.S. federal law. In this case, there is a EU-wide regulation. I'm not sure how much that plays into it. Probably it varies too depending on this issue because like there's a federal law against marijuana, but there's not, there are many states where it's.

legal. Yeah, it gets tricky when you're like, well, is it a federal law that says no state can violate this or is it a federal law that says federal agencies must, dot, dot, dot, dot. Because it's not like states can just say, you know, we're going to institute something against the Constitution or, you know, we're going to do something that's entirely different. We're not going to be a democracy anymore. Utah is going to be a kingdom now. Like, you can't do that, right? There's limits. The Kingdom of Utah. I'm all for this. Scott is king. And the UK just sort of just doing their own thing right now. They're not. Yeah, the UK is not part of the EU. So they tend to have similar movements and similar issues.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the EU did change the GDPR, that the UK, which actually has the GDPR from when it was in the EU, but it's now the UK's own version of it, might want to modify its own to follow and would probably modify it in a slightly different way. Well, I hope like me and Brian, you all at home learned a little more about how the UAEU operates or more importantly, how nothing's really happened yet. Yeah, that's the biggest takeaway is like don't just keep an eye out, you know, look on November 19th if you're really interested to see what actually gets proposed. If something gets proposed, because there's a lot of heat on this issue, but there's no adaptations you need to take yet or could take because you just don't know what's

going to end up being proposed. Yeah. Like, you know, just sit tight. It's fun to speculate, though, which is kind of what we're doing today. So we appreciate this call, Pandar the Great. Maybe you could be King of Utah. Yeah, it was a great question. Yeah. Come to the Kingdom of Utah. Take the crown of Pondar. You've already got the Great in your name. We're all set. That's right. Tom Meridian, anything else going on in your world you'd like to tell folks about? Well, you said the words know a little more, which reminds me that I have a book out called Sinked. This is the print copy, which you, I don't think you can get. quite yet, but there's e-books available that you can get. They're on the Amazon Kindle store,

and it is, it's just me going through all the tech topics that I know about. These are adapted from my know a little more episodes, but there's a lot of new material in here. Cell phones, security, chip, software, and productivity. If you just want to understand a little more about technology, check it out. It's called synced, and you can get it wherever fine e-books are sold or at Daily Technewshow.com slash store. Nice. Put it in a reader. Are you going to do a voice or a audiobook or anything or no? Yeah, yeah. I intend to do an actual human red audiobook of it. Oh, nice. Look at you. Take that AI. Tomton Town.

Before we let you get in your inferencing. Oh, we do have one other thing to talk about today. Oh, we got to promote that. Let's do it. Yeah. Yes. This evening at 830 Eastern, 530 Pacific, we are doing a live Daily Music Headlines Grammy discussion the nominations just came out and by golly we want to talk about them who got snubbed

who's going to win who do we want to win who does Hammond want to win and why does it run with schmeme smearter but uh Eileen wants something that rhymes with Smatsai to win

oh okay did you see my cat's eye thing by the way Tom I did yes my video but right here cat's eye cat's uh beautiful Sorry, that was me. That was me. Don't worry. Ignore me.

Sorry. I wanted to make sure. Chaos. Chaos. Chaos. Chaos. So that's going to be today on our brand new Daily Music Headlines YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com slash at Daily Music Headlines. Excellent. Tom Merritt, have a fantastic day. And if you're all looking for him hanging out in the various social media places and whatnot, look for Ace Detect. Bye now. See you. All right. There he goes. There he goes. We got a quick email to read from an anonymous listener who starts it with this. For TMS, why keep the Quantum Leap DVDs, he says.

Because it's not streaming anywhere, he says. Currently, it says only one season is streaming on Philo, whatever that is. I love how he said that, whatever that is. Whatever that is. I feel exactly the same way anonymous. I don't think I've used Philo. yet. I like Philo. I see it every once in a while, like, you know, you're looking at the Just Watch and it says, oh, it's available here, here,

here, and Philo. Okay. Like, who are they? I mean, I'd have to, maybe they'd blow my mind. I used to say this about Tubey and I really like them now, so I don't know. That's right. Now you're, yeah, sure. Kind of a tuby guy. Anyway, movies and shows come and go from streaming all the time, this show was produced by NBC.

So you'd think it would always be available on Peacock, but it's not, says, anonymous. Actually, I'm not sure that that's correct. What happens a lot? Like, Frayers, you would assume was produced by NBC. It wasn't. It was aired on NBC, but it was produced by Paramount, exactly.

And at the time was a CBS company, ABC, CBS, CBS, CBS. And so where do you get Frasier? You get on Paramount. So it's weird how that stuff works. Like Friends was some other thing. Belisarius Productions, right? Was the studio behind it? Right.

Is that Don Belisarius, Belisarius? so I don't know. I don't know who he partnered with. Sometimes it's Fox. Yeah. I mean, it is lame that it's not available. It should be streaming somewhere. And I guess what I need to do is just pull out handbrake

and just rip all the DVDs and then store it on my external hard drive and clear up the space or something. Gosh, handbrake. I forgot about that. Handbrake. Handbrake. I'll see if I have the latest version of that. I don't.

It's been so long since I've had to rip a DVD or anything. like it. Yeah. Wild. All right. Keep your emails coming. We love them. You can find them all,

all the ways to contact us, voicemails, emails, all of it, text, whatever you want, frogpants.com slash TMS. Let us leave them now, Brian,

but with a song. With a song, a musical number, if you will. Make sure that I'm picking the right one. I believe I am. Yes.

Okay, good. Carl from Idaho says, it's my brother Richard's birthday. Please also dedicate this song to Hammond, your soundography co-host. It's so awesome that your podcast is now and it's 10th year.

Actually, we just recorded the first episode of our 11th season last night. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. I didn't know. Was that long? That's great. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Listen, and we're in our first big episode, our first band episode is going to be Depeche Mode. So we're going to be listening from all the way from Speak and Spell, their first album,

all the way to the newest stuff. 15 albums, one right after the other. Dang. Pick the highs, the lows. it's going to be a black celebration and violator are going to be the highs without a doubt for me. Oh, they're 100% the highs,

right? Yeah. Yep. Anyway, also, I know, he says, I know Indiara's YouTube channel is an advertising vehicle for her harmonical lessons, but I don't care. I don't care. Her cover of ACDC's Thunderstruck is just so amazingly fun. That is exactly what he's requesting.

So, happy birthday, Richard, the brother of Carl from Idaho. Here is Thunderstruck by Indiara Stair. Nope, I'm sorry, Indiara Svair and Tiago Juk. Yes, those are the names, folks. That sounds fantastic. We'll be back tomorrow.

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