The Morning Stream - TMS 2926: Pop Tart Inception
Episode Date: November 26, 2025Pull the lips apart and blow. Every kid needs a whoopie cushion. Straw tart blow berry pop torch with Dunaway. Appropriately sized Grinch. Every fart is funny when you're six. Cushion Regrets. Christm...as village appropriation. Three Holes In A Bottom!! Always call the garage door guy. International Eating Holidays. What is the apple jacks flavor? Shoe breakfast. Paprika dump. Three fume sleep. Whipping Buggys with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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pull the lips apart and blow.
Every kid needs a whoopee cushion.
Straw tart, blueberry pop torch with Dunaway.
Appropriately sized cringe.
Every fart is funny when you're six.
Cushin regrets.
Christmas village appropriation.
Three holes in a little.
bottom. Always call the garage door guy. International eating holidays. What is the apple jack's
flavor? Shoe breakfast. Paprika dump. Three fume sleep. Whipping buggies with Tom and more on this
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Hello everybody and welcome to TMS.
It is the morning stream for Wednesday, November 26th, 2025.
I'm Scott Johnson.
That's Brian, Ibit.
Hi, Brian.
Happy Thanksgiving Eve.
Thanksgiving.
Yep.
We should combine it.
Just called thanksgiving.
Let's do it.
Just a two-day event.
It's all good with me.
I slept like garbage.
I have maybe three fumes left in me.
I had the worst sleep last night.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know why.
I don't know what that was about.
Actually, I do know why.
It wasn't great for me either.
We had a little girl on the floor and the thing.
And whenever the kids are over and they sleep over, they, I worry about them all night.
So I think that's it.
I think I just sit there and stress about them.
But you didn't sleep well, you say?
I didn't sleep well.
either. I woke up at a little after one and was able to get back to sleep pretty quick. I took a little
melaton and gummy and then woke up at five and I said, this is it for me. I'm up. But one to five,
baby. Last night started Tenet and then middle of the night watched the 30 more minutes and then this
morning finished it up. Can it, it doesn't, how does that go? Because like it, the way that thing shifts
gears in this whatever it is in the middle of it does that throw you as a multi-parter a little bit it is such a
it's such a weird i really like it i feel like it's uh it is a it is it's a complex film but it's
really really well done and um but it what's cool about it or what helps me sleep with it is
the fact that it's i'm so busy like thinking about wait a minute all right that guy is
been inverted so the stuff he's going to be doing is backwards he's already experienced this
and now he's doing that going backwards and stuff and it's like um a lot to keep track of on
purpose it helps to be fall asleep it's like okay let me let me sleep on this i love that legend
legend uh would have been a good movie also to help me sleep just because it's so damn boring yeah
it's pretty boring you got to wait a long time until tim curry starts tearing things up you know
really i know totally all that vangelis music just putting you out tangerine dream oh i always say
vangelis why you do because you want it to be chariots of fire scott why do i do that you want it to
be blade runner tangrene dream oh that's right because vangelis did like risky business blade runner
that's why i confuse him that's why you confuse him yeah and on my head it's like oh he just
rolled into his next movie with his favorite new collaborating music guy partner and that's
it would have been nice i think i think uh you know brand talked about um
Howard Shore, I think, was the musician and the director's cut that he has.
Oh, no, that was Jerry Goldsmith.
Goldsmith, that's right.
Howard Shore, it's a little bit newer.
Goldsmith, I swear, is in almost everything we see.
Kind of, yeah.
He comes up a lot.
I think it's once a month.
Like, if we do four film sack movies a month, one of them is going to have Goldsmith.
That guy was all over the place back in the day before he died.
Hey, guys, I got a, I have a recommendation.
Oh, good.
Last night, all the kids came over.
Kim made this, this Asian bowl bar thing where you could come put whatever you want on it.
And there was two, it was basically a sushi bar, but for bowls, for rice bowls.
Nice.
That sounds amazing.
Yeah, it was great.
It was great.
Some of the kids are not going to get to see on Thanksgiving.
So we're like, because it's their year to go to the in-laws.
And so we're like, well, I'll come over early.
We'll bring the kids and we'll do this thing on a Tuesday night.
So we did last night.
And it was great.
We had a great time.
But I've had this gift I've been holding on to for Van for a while, which is as old as time.
It was a whoopee cushion.
And I thought, you know, that's a funny little jokey, funny little toy he could have, you know?
Sure. Yeah.
He's not going to go crazy or lose his mind or anything.
What could possibly go wrong?
Yeah.
He's only, you know, he's sick.
So every fart is funny.
You know, just that age.
and all that.
Unlike,
unlike 56 where every fart is so funny.
I mean,
it's the funniest thing I hear every day.
I laugh at my own farts for hell's sakes.
Sure.
Anyway,
so I'm like,
yeah,
I'm going to pull this out.
You know,
this is like,
it's like ordering off the back of a comic,
I'm waiting eight weeks for it.
Kind of toy.
This is like this weird old school thing.
They still make these.
And so I give it to him and he's super excited.
He doesn't know what it is.
He's like,
what is it?
Pops?
How does it work?
What are you do?
I showed him,
you got to blow in there and you'll be fill it full of air.
when we put it on a chair and then we and then Carter pretended like she didn't see it and she says oh I'm just gonna sit down over here and she sits and it goes you know big old like our buzzer thing like a big huge fart in the kitchen I have never seen it was like a simultaneous light bulb going on and laugh unchecked laughter joker style laughter out of this kid and all night long it became where's van and where's that freaking whoopie boy what's he doing
Where does he have it hidden now?
Yeah, and sometimes it wasn't even just, I'll put it under a seat.
It was come up behind his mother and squeeze it in the back of her head.
Like, it was maybe a mistake is what I'm saying.
I may have made an error with that thing, you know.
But I don't know, every kid needs a whoopee cushion at some point.
I think so, exactly.
And we, you and I, we had to work for it.
We had to find it in the back of a comic book and we had to order it with our x-ray specs.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And wait four to six weeks for delivery.
a self-addressed stamped envelope
with our whoopie cushion.
We had a hard.
We had a hard back then.
So he'll never understand that part of it.
But it turns out you can very easily hop on to yield Amazon and find an assortment of whoopee cushions.
There's a ton on there.
Now, when you think about it, are you not grossed out a little bit by the fact that you have to put your lips on something and blow it up after somebody just sat on it?
So great question.
I have actually a method of this
And I was the first one to blow it up
So I showed them how to do it before anyone touched it
Other than the lips of some factory worker
I don't know who makes these
Yeah, right
But what you do is you pull
Okay, it's going to
Jamie, go in the other room for a minute
You're going to pull the lips
I cut any of this out
No, you're going to pull the lips apart
All right, just kind of pull them apart a little bit
And then you don't actually have to put lips to the to the hole
You can be like this far
and just blow really hard and it will fill.
So you never have to make lip contact.
It's something I learned forever ago about whoopie cushions
and it still works today.
So you do not need to put your mouth on the lips
of the whoopie cushion.
There is no way any of this is going to get isolated out
and put on YouTube.
Yeah.
It's so safe.
It's so safe.
And I knew it as I was saying.
It's just going to be trouble.
But yeah, you make no contact with the lips.
describe the opening of the whoopee cushion as lips. I think that might be problem number one.
Yeah, I don't know what to call it. It's like, it's flat, right? So you have the two sides.
I don't know. When you blow up a balloon, what do you call the, uh, well, that thing is round. So that's like a
button, right? Sure. But it's, but an opening is an opening. And now that's out there.
Yeah. Thanks a lot. That's another quick, quick buck there for Jamie. But yeah. And then he didn't
know how to do it very well. So what would happen is for the rest of the evening, when
van would explode the thing behind your head or whatever, you were getting little spittle things
because he couldn't do it right. And he's not, you know, he's got the lungs of a six-year-old.
Yeah. Yeah. He thinks he has to put the fart sound into the whoopee cushion. Yeah. Yeah. It's
not good. So there are regrets and I'm feeling it today a little bit. But his mind, I told his mom last
night, I told Tay, I said, you know what, you can keep it here if you want. You don't have to take it
home. But she says, no, take it home. It's fine. So it all worked out.
immediately it got put in a closet out of reach and only given to him for two hours a day
in the middle of the day when nobody's nobody's uh mom where's my whoopee cushion gosh i don't know dear
where did you put it that's one of those deals anyway what's going on with you what did you do
last night well uh so last friday um i'm coming into uh the garage uh pull my car in and i hear as it's
closing the garage, I hear this loud crack. And I'm like, oh, crud. Actually, it says I was as I was
lowering the garage door after I pulled the car in. And I look up and sure enough, you've got the two
springs above the door. One of them had snapped. One of them had broken. I was like, oh, crap. All right.
Do we have to call the garage door guy? Maybe. And so I go into Tina, I say, hey, we got, where's the
ValPack coupon list? You know, who's the guy? Who is the company we used last time? And she's, I don't know,
but we'll see if we can find it.
So in the process of finding it,
I reach out to Crazy Neighbor next door and say,
hey, you did your own garage door springs, right?
Like what, just out of curiosity, what did that cost?
It was like, oh, actually, you can get a pair of springs for $70 or $80.
It really takes two hours.
You just, you know, if you follow safety rules,
if you're very careful and you follow things to the letter
as far as the safety of the whole project, 100% fine.
good because those are scary springs if you're not doing the safety stuff right absolutely you can cause
like you people people have died yeah they're bad this is one d i i project a DIY project that can
kill a person um because you're dealing with these springs that have hundreds of pounds of
torsion on them because they have to lift a several hundred pound garage door um you forget how
heavy those garage doors are until you try and lift one that is not connected to
to the spring that makes it a lot easier and a lot lighter.
Right.
So he's like, no, we'll do it.
We'll do it together.
Just order the springs.
Here are the two numbers you need to know.
You need to know the length, which is usually the number of springs coiled.
Or is it the, he gave me two numbers.
He said, look on the existing springs for two numbers.
And it's going to be something like 250, 29, 35, 32, 40, something like that.
And I said, oh, yeah, 250, 39.
Cool, awesome.
One of them's the length and one of them is the number of coils, I think, in the spring or some deal.
Okay.
So I order it, hop on Amazon, order it.
Cool, awesome.
Get it here.
And then we find out, and he knew this, but he forgot to tell me that there's a 1.7 inch, 1.75 inch diameter ring and then a 2 inch diameter ring.
quarter of an inch difference on these damn things
but if you put the wrong one on
again you're asking for trouble because it'll bind up
it has a higher more chance of breaking
so of course I bought the damn two inch
I need the one seven five
so immediately
Amazon bought the wrong item by mistake
okay take it to your UPS store
do that order a new pair
the new pair arrived yesterday
Tina's happy because
we've had to park outside all week
week. Yesterday was trash day, so we're like, oh, my God, hopefully we can get the garage open
because we've got these two big lugable trash cans that we've got to get to the curb,
trash can and a recycling bin. And we don't have to take them through the house. So we get them.
The springs look great. They're the right size, everything. Crazy neighbor and I are up on the
ladders. We're taking the old ones off. We get the bearing in the right place. We get the bar
kind of cleaned off and ready.
We put the springs on there,
match them up in the middle
to where they connect up to the bracket.
He starts ratcheting it closed
and the damn thing breaks.
Like right by where the bolt goes in,
there must have been a fissure,
some sort of fracture in the
gasket, the ring that holds
the bolts on there.
Because they hadn't even been tightened yet
and they came apart.
That's not good. It's not good.
And so now, guess what?
It's Thanksgiving week.
You think we're going to get one of these anytime soon?
No, it's going to be another two or three days before we get a replacement.
You go like a Home Depot or something.
They're not going to have this, are they?
Or are they going to have money?
They don't.
No.
No.
First place I looked for Home Depot, Lowe's.
No, the places that have them are the places you can get them are your, you know, your, your repair guys get them, obviously.
but you have to pay for repair
and they have a full set like they all
whatever size you need
otherwise you have to special order
and have them delivered and that's the big pain
in the ass
I hate this part of home stuff
I hate it. I do too
now I love the fact that
yeah look at that
S14 Wanub says I think we paid
$2,000 to have ours replaced
yeah it's a lot
I think we paid maybe $900
Wow. Four or five hundred bucks is what I've been, like, seeing for average, average price.
Two car garage, about four or five hundred bucks, but, you know, whatever.
Dr. Callihan says, how much is your time worth at this point?
Still, still not worth four or five hundred bucks.
No.
Still okay with parking the car outside to save at least $325.
Yeah, we're not Elon Musk in.
his family. No, exactly.
Not really his family. He abandons his family.
He does.
Hey, I know a secret.
This.
Yeah.
Look who it is.
Our old pal Brian Dunaway.
What's going on, man?
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
Thanks for not segueing into speaking to someone
to the band and as their family because I felt like that was coming from that segue.
No, hell no.
You're not that guy.
You're never been that guy.
Hey, are you at home today or at work or what?
Oh, I'm still, I'm at lunch break right now.
Yeah, tomorrow, Thursday, Friday, and then next week, I'm off, off, offless party.
Yeah, dude.
That's awesome.
I'm glad you getting some time off.
That's great.
Also, Scott, were you buying your novelty items?
Whoopie cushions haven't had to be inflated in 20 years.
They all have sponges inside of them now, and they just self-inflate.
Not the one I got, really?
Is that true?
That's what I was talking about.
What are you buying them from?
The hobo market?
Oh, so like, it just spunkes.
brings like basically there that pushes the outside and so oh that's kind of see oh yeah look at this
you can hop up and down on your scene go yeah you have to buy it says you get well you have to look
for self-inflating one so it is a different thing but the one I got was just the one that flat and
folded up in the package and yeah just the way that you had old school yeah I should have done that
I can't wait it we're gonna me and Scott are talk about the pre-show tonight too
toys that annoyed our parents yeah perfect timing for that yeah yeah
Whoopee cushion is right in there.
Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Half the crap
at the back of your comic book
was right in there.
Yeah, totally.
For sure.
Guys, guess what?
It's time for a game.
Brian David here knows the rules,
knows who's going to win what,
and it can explain to us
what we have to do.
Brian, take it away.
I don't know.
I don't know who's going to win what,
but I'm going to tell you what they could win.
It's time to play the tadpooly feud.
I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics
and Scott and Brianning and I have to predict the answers
that they gave us.
It's their job to see how many of those answers
they can guess.
at the end of the game we'll add up all the points
and Scott and Brian's
proxy players will win the prize
is Scott you're playing for Dan Razmussen
Sweet love it
Brian you're playing for Holly Cuppie
Oh
Holly Cuppie
Holly Cuppie
Holly have a holly holly holly
Cupby
And in that best time of the year
I'm sure she's never heard that
All right sweet
I'm feeling good today
All right do it
Good let's let's do it
It's you know we're coming on
the eve of, at least in America
here, an eating holiday. You
in Canada had your eating holiday about a month
and a half ago, you lucky... Every day is eating
holiday. Well, it is.
And I don't know, Brian Dunaway
feel like you might have an advantage in this one,
but we'll see... Oh. We asked
472 Tadpoolers.
What is your
favorite? Pop-Tart
for you. Oh.
Brian.
Whoop-D-D-D-D-D-Do. Do you want to say
Pop-Tarts this morning. And I
chose... Gross.
Cherry.
Cherry.
Cherry.
All right.
Show me cherry.
Number five.
Four answers will beat it.
Got to be that brown sugar thing.
People always get.
The brown sugar ones.
Show me.
Show me brown sugar.
Sorry.
Somehow I triggered S-I-R-I.
Yeah, number two answer on the board.
I know too many pop-tarts.
That's the problem.
I know.
That is the problem.
It's almost like you have too many answers where Scott might know just a few, but they are the most
popular.
Yeah, I barely know.
but I'm going to do my best here.
Yeah, so Scott has
controlled the board, two points,
and what is the Tadpool's
favorite Pop-Tart flavors?
There's probably a
what's
the thing you do when you camp?
Shit.
Shit in a hole.
That's it. Pop-Tart
If I say marshmallow,
gram crackers and chocolate, is that enough?
I don't remember what you call them.
Nope.
You got to say it.
name.
I think that's enough.
Is it enough?
All right.
Brian's giving it to me.
I like it.
Well, if you have less of that, you probably want some more.
Oh, shit.
There's smores.
Brian, damn it.
I feel like an idiot.
All right.
Smoors, Brian.
Well, way to get him there.
Show us smores.
Yeah, frosted smores.
Number two answer on the board.
My kids like those.
It doesn't taste like smores, but they are interesting.
I'll give them that.
They have a, I don't know if this is popular, but I've had it
before it's a peanut butter and jelly one
um it's like sure
p b and j yeah p b and j flavor
let's do that
frosted p b and j
show me frosted p b and jay
oh
that's a good one
that is a good one
yeah i do you should have had it
everything's better with peanut butter
you guys
do you guys actually toast your pop tarts
do you pop them in the
you pop them in the in the toaster
and they pop
I might not let them go the full amount of time that they need to cook,
but I will absolutely put them in the toaster oven because I want a little bit of golden brown on the edges outside of the frosted area.
You know what I've tried in the microwave, try it in the in the, of course, the toaster, but air fryer, anybody?
Oh, I can see that.
That would work.
Do you spray it with a little thing?
I don't know.
I've never done it.
I've never done it.
But the air fryer is right next to the pop tarts in the break room.
I'm going to always think about it.
I'm like,
you should do that and tell us if it's good.
I'm sure it is.
Air fire is like kind of good at everything.
So like,
yeah,
wouldn't surprise me.
Wow.
Okay.
So whenever they bring in the wall of pop tarts,
they always bring in eight boxes of the strawberry.
I love the fact that,
uh,
that you're at your office.
It is like we,
uh,
you know,
you get a 401k.
You get paid vacation leave and we supply pop tarts.
There's a,
there's a lot of Debbie cakes.
but those always get gone.
There's always Pop-Tarts and crackers.
You can almost count on it.
Yeah, if you can eat your body weight
and Pop-Tarts here at Jensen and Jensen,
we're happy to have your work here.
Exactly, yes.
That's great.
Pop-Tart meeting, everybody?
Pop-Tart meeting?
All right, let's go.
That will Pop-Tart coming in the conference room.
Yeah.
All right, so you're saying strawberry?
Rollberry.
It's probably number one.
Damn it.
Show me strawberry.
Oh, my God.
Oh, that's what to say.
Number one answer for us to strawberry.
No, I was replying to somebody in the chat room who asked, who asked,
how come Brian didn't get control of the board?
It's because Scott picked a more popular answer.
For the tip-off, it's always who picks a more popular answer, but scores are based on.
Yeah, that's how regular family feud works, too, right?
Same thing.
It is.
Try to beat the whatever one they got.
These are Richard Dawson rules is how we define our tip-off.
Frosted Strawberry, number one.
All right, Dunaway.
You still have control.
Like I said, this morning, I was in a hurry, and it's a day before we go on a holiday.
And I did look at the frosted cherry, but I ended up going with, and the reason why I didn't say, because I couldn't remember exactly what it was, but I'm going to say Apple, because it was an apple, it was like apple tart or something like that.
Anyway, it had the Pop-Tart guy on the front of it, and he was emboldened or emblazed.
What do you want to say there?
Emblazed on the front of it.
It said, eat me.
And I was like, all right, Mr.
Mr. Pop-Tart, I will.
It's the anthropomorphic Pop-Tart with the face on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is, eat me.
And I was like, okay.
Okay.
So I dug him out of the middle of the Pop-Tart and ate him.
Does he have a name?
The Pop-Tart guy?
He's just the Pop-Tart guy.
Okay.
P-Torke.
Do you eat his eyes first so you can hear him scream?
Or do you eat his mouth to make the pop-tots not screaming, Clarice?
to muffle the sounds of his screams i i ate his hand because in his hand he was also holding a pop-tart
so that was really confusing oh yeah that's inception pop-tart i'm assuming he's eating his babies
i don't know what he's doing it totally is uh all right show me apple
oh my god geez the uh thing it's just taking a while to get the crap out of me there
apparently it's also been sitting outside apple cinnamon was number 12
we'll send them and that's what it was.
An apple strudel was tied for 20th.
Yeah, strudel's good.
It's all right.
Discontinued flavor.
Oh, they don't even make that anymore.
Okay.
No.
There's a few discontinued ones that popped up in the list.
No.
Popped up in the list.
Ha!
Didn't even try on that one.
I don't, I could not tell you the last time I even had a Pop-Tart, but that's why this is getting
hard because I don't remember any anything else.
I'm going to say chocolate.
Okay.
all on its own
yeah show me
chocolate
oh geez
frosted chocolate fudge number four
no no marshmallow no graham cracker
right just chocolate
chocolate just chocolate fudge looks like
sick people
like the little
the little hole in the back of the pop tart
where they inject the the flavoring
I guess they don't do that it's not like a donut
no
you're thinking of strudels
I think I'm thinking of a toaster struly.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm thinking of Phil Donuts is what I'm thinking of.
Yeah, or a Twinkie.
They got a little hole in the back.
Yeah.
Three holes in the bottom.
You're right.
Yeah.
They got like a three holes in a bottom.
Do you guys, do you guys hog all the, uh, that ice and stuff in the strud?
You took like two.
Oh.
Two packages.
I mean, I used to.
It's one for one, man.
I used to.
I used to give half.
Takes more than one.
I would give half to my brother.
because he didn't like sugar as much
and I would
I would just bury mine
in the one and a half
would be slathered
Yeah
I want to have to melt so fast
Like a pop toaster struddle
Bukakis
What that would end up looking like
Yum yum
Let's do
Sorry Logan
All right
We're going to do
I don't know
Uh
I don't know
The board all taken up
That's so weird
Lemon
Some kind of lemon
Lemon, sure.
Lemon.
Lemon.
All right.
Show me.
Show me Liz Lemon.
Damn it.
No, no lemon at all.
They're wrong.
They're all wrong.
I don't know if they ever made one, but that sounds awesome.
Like, lemon-filled donuts are amazing.
They're my favorite thing in the world.
Yeah.
I think lemon flavored anything is great, and I would think a Pop-Tart would benefit from lemon,
but apparently I'm wrong.
Yeah.
All right, Dono-way.
It's on you.
I know there's one.
I'm trying to remember if they hood.
hooked up with with Oreos or if it's just cookies and cream like did they get the official would
you take either yeah yeah cook cookie pop tart it is called it is officially called cookies and
cream okay all right all right show me cookies and cream come on yeah i mean it may be official
but uh number 15 number 15 on the list was cookies and cream come on okay that ourselves
a real barn burner of a game here scores nine to six in favor of scott um each
player has one strike
hold on a second
be right back
I got to run
to the break room
yeah
get to take a
look at what's
in the fridge
there
or I guess
you don't
keep them in the fridge
I don't know
where you keep
no no
we don't keep
well are we weird
let's do
let's do another
berry
it's good like
raspberry
probably
there's a good one
okay
show me
raspberry
oh frosted raspberry
the 11
which means
you get a bonus
bonus guess
good gosh
um
oh my gosh
of cinnamon
oh cinnamon
pop tarts
just cinnamon pop tart
yeah gross
sure
show me cinnamon
that's insane
to the main stage
cinnamon to the main stage
there have been cinnamon
cinnamon roll
and there was another one
cinnamon pretzel
which was discontinued
oh really
Those both popped up on the list, but neither of them high enough in the list to
To give any points.
Brian, it's up to you.
You need three points to tie, four points to win.
Any correct answer on the board will get you points and we'll get you the way.
Okay.
I didn't just run to the break room, but we got sticker doodle in there, Apple Jacks, some left
over pumpkin from Halloween, I'm assuming.
And what is that other kind?
Oh, I forgot.
Well, it was the other thing.
Did we say raspberry?
You just said raspberry, didn't you?
I wasn't listening.
Yeah, I said right.
Apple jacks are great, though.
Apple jacks are pretty good.
But I don't want to say that.
Will I win if I say Apple jacks?
No.
The Apple jacks flavor?
Isn't that just cinnamon apple?
I think that's what that is.
No, no.
There's actually, it says Apple jacks in front of it.
I mean, it would say Apple jacks.
if you've ever seen them.
Oh, right, right.
It's like a tie-in with the
with the actual cereal as opposed to.
Right.
They crossed over.
I get it.
What was the other flavor in Apple Jacks?
Like, it was,
it's not,
doesn't taste like Jack.
What is,
like it wasn't just apple flavor.
It was something else to them.
Oh, they talked about this before.
Yeah,
they talked about that.
I thought it was just apple and cinnamon, no?
Is it animal?
It is Apple.
I thought it was,
but I may be wrong.
And the apple jacks is something else, right?
Are they?
That's what I thought Apple Jax is something else.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Anyway,
I don't like that one that I bet somebody put on here.
Is that stupid gross blue or whatever that crap thing is?
It's like wildberry.
It looks disgusting.
I never get that one.
Yeah.
So no wild berry.
It's like a mixture of all the berries.
It's not here.
Right.
Yeah.
Is that your answer?
Is that your answer?
Not now.
I'm just waiting for you.
No,
I'm just waiting for you to make it official.
Not the way you're asking it.
All right.
Wildberry.
All right.
Wildberry.
Show me your wild berries.
Yeah.
number eight answer on the board and that will that will lock you in for the win but you uh there's still four more answers on the board if you want to go then i'm going to go uh playing apple jacks apple jacks apple jacks okay show me apple jacks
no there we go there's our third strike there's like unfrosted but what's inside the unfrosted is it different fruits i'm trying to remember yes is unfroasted was that one of the answers unfrosted was that one of the answers unfrosted
strawberry was one of the answers when when Pop-Tarts first came out it was all
unfrosted strawberry yeah brown sugar cinnamon I've worked here for so long
that's I remember when they first came out yeah Quran or current oh I love a
current that was that was a popular flavor back in the 40s when was and the fourth
one I think might have been like raspberry or something here yes it was
It's with sweet hair
Aluminum
But unfrosted strawberry
That's I was thinking
All right well they're seeing all these that say frosted
Maybe they'll try and unfrosted
But there you go
I don't know what kind of heathens
Just want to watch the world burn
And eat a unfrosted pop tar
They're so
Like if you really look at them
Look at photos of them
Yeah
They're gross
I mean they're really
They look like
They were made by a robot
Who doesn't know what tastes
Frosted or anything
Any really any of these
Like here's, look at this one.
Like this thing right here, I don't know what flavor.
Yeah, that's your wildberry right there.
I mean, it's like a, it's like some pop art.
Like it's, yeah, pop art.
It's like, you're just throwing them out there.
Jeez, I didn't even realize that one either.
But it's like.
Why is it like DNA?
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, now they got these, they got these.
They got these crunchy poppers.
They do.
Oh, I did.
I had some of those the other day.
They're disgusting.
yeah
they look gross
and you don't toast them right like
you just no no they come a little bag
because they'll get stuck in the toaster
yeah
crunchy filled snack pieces
like to see like you bit like
sprinkling them in the toaster
because they're like little bitty
it's like why's the toaster on fire
Ryan I was trying to cook some
pop tarts
they just aren't food to me
they just are
blah
anyway
you weren't the only one have felt that way
my significant other does something interesting she only eats the inside part so she like cuts the outside like the bread crust off your p b and j so that i come in behind her and i'll eat i'll eat those i'm trash right i'm trash so basically she cuts off the edge so that you can separate them and then what does she do like scrape it off of the fork or lick it like an orio how does she get no no she just she just no she just cuts the uh the edge the sealed part like where they seal the
The seal part off and eats the rest.
Okay.
She's not eating technically the inside of Pop-Tart.
She's eating the center of the Pump Tart.
If the bite does not include some type of gel that comes from the Pop-Tart, she's not having it.
Right.
Whatever that stuff is.
Have you ever done the Make a P.B. and J with Pop-Tarts as your brain?
I've seen crazy people do that, but I've never done it.
No.
It just seems like you're asking for a...
I have some...
I do occasionally see people coming out of the break room.
And, you know, we have the regular packs, which is two in each pack.
sure and they'll just and they just like
eat both them at the same time they just
kind of like just murp eating both them like you
one of the time dude yeah
one of the time I like the sound you made
murp I'm eating nothing
MIRP
Looks like some of the answers you guys didn't get
Number six
Frosted Blueberry
Blueberry do we say blueberry no
no nobody said blueberry
This is the other one when you said
Chocolate Fudge Scott I was like
gonna ask you to be more specific but this one's
different enough
Frosted hot fudge
Sunday.
Yeah, that one's a, that one's got everything.
It's all dark chocolate looking, the whole thing.
Yeah, right, exactly.
Yeah.
We're really just teaching kids that anything's for breakfast.
Anything's on the table.
Hot fudge sundaes, uh, s'mores.
Your shoe if you'd have to, like, whatever.
Right.
Gross.
And finally,
frosted vanilla milk shake.
I don't think I've ever seen that.
That is wild.
But, uh, people said vanilla in the chat or in, in the, the survey.
And I was like, well, what vanilla have they had?
This is the only vanilla I could find.
I never heard that.
Did they mean plain, maybe?
I don't know.
They might have meant plain, but I couldn't find a plane.
Like, everything has a flavor.
And if you want unfrosted, it was like unfrosted strawberry, blueberry.
Some of the other choices, people said chocolate chip.
People said, don't eat them.
Another person said unfrosted brown sugar.
Actually, a lot of people said some version of none or nethered.
never had one because I'm not American.
That's dumb.
By the way, they can be bad for you, but it doesn't have to have anything to do with being American.
I mean, exactly.
Well, no, I mean, they just don't have them in other countries.
Oh, I see.
I'm not part-tarts in other countries.
I can order a frosted villain milkshake from, uh, from Publix that looks like.
So, really?
Okay.
So maybe it's not, maybe it's not, uh, discontinued.
Interesting. Uh, birthday cake, Boston cream, brownie, burnt, frosted rape, uh, frosted,
Spideberry. I guess they had a Spider-Man tie-in for a little while.
I would rather die. Somebody said. Kim-chee spice. Pumpkin spice. Salt and vinegar. And
finally, toaster struddle. They have something called frosted lemon, blueberry crumble.
They have that. Really? So you guys. Yeah, I'm looking at their website. Some of these might be brand new, though, like new, new. I don't know.
Chocolate, chocolate, around the front. I forget. Yeah, lemon, okay. Around the back lemonade is made.
no that's right that's it backwards frosted cookies and cream you did that one girl scout
frosted coconut not from where i'm standing done away yeah they got two girl scout variations
uh thin mint taste of thin mint version oh yeah i forgot yeah they did have they're going crazy over there
that's that peppermint yeah kind of peppermint mint chocolate chocolate yeah actually look that one
looks pretty good actually it's going to be an all pop tart thanksgiving at the done away has that's
That's right. Turkey-flavored.
Gravy for your pop-tarts, past the gravy.
Somebody somewhere's done that. You just know it.
Oh, by the way, a bunch of people said strawberry pop-tart blowtorch in honor of the Fletcher clip.
Oh, good. I should have had that ready to play. I didn't even think about it.
I should have. I didn't think about it either.
Well, that's good news. So somebody won some prizes, Brian. How'd that all play out?
Yeah. Congratulations going to Holly Cuppie. You're getting a copy of Disco Simulator.
Ooh. And Cardboard Kings Card Shop Simulator.
Oh, that's a big, that, that's popular.
People like that.
I haven't played it.
Is it like a, it's like a diner dash with a card shop?
Not really diner dash, more like, I don't know, you run, it's 3D, it's first person.
You run and improve a shop, but it's like, oh, yeah, well, there's card tournaments and unpackaging aspects.
It's like a whole, it's very focused around the card shop stuff, yeah.
Okay.
If it's the game I'm thinking of, I'm pretty sure it is.
no anyway um the uh the runner up uh dan rasmusin you are getting between horizons also on steam
and all of these courtesy of king kimazabi that's right very generous uh dude with his codes and
you guys should know that you'll be seeing these in your private messages over on our patreon so
that's how you get on the list if you want to win codes if you haven't done so don't worry we'll
be doing that again when we get through our current batch uh but congratulations to both of them
and to Dunaway, I would say, come back later tonight, 4 p.m. Mountain Time, me and you, hanging out. You're doing stuff. You know? Playing some retro. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that greatly. But also, kiss our butts. Oh, I hung up on Tom because he got out so quick.
Damn it. Tom. Tom was there and waiting. Hold on. Join again. And my fingers hovered over Dunaway to say kiss my butt. He leaves
before I click and then Tom's in his
place and it clicks him out. Of course.
Damn it! That's
annoying. Sorry, Tom.
Yeah. Well, he's not coming back too. He's angry.
He's like, nope, screw you guys.
Yeah, I'm going home. You get one shot
with Tom once a week. If you blow it,
you got to wait a week. Oh, here he is.
Okay, he's back. Let's go ahead and see
if it's all. I know, right?
I know. Right. Let's touch the bullet.
All right. Let's play a little theme and then we'll talk to him.
Isn't technology wonderful? Oh, it sure
is. But only when Tom Merritt's here. Hello, Tom.
who I just cut off and then brought back.
I heard kiss our butts and
and I realized, wait a minute, I think I need to rejoin that call.
Yeah, normally it is not you.
I would like to kiss our butts.
But today, you wouldn't know.
It's good to have you here.
Tom Merritt comes on the show.
We talk about tech and lately we've been answering your tech questions.
And we've really been enjoying that.
In fact, you guys keep sending them.
So we're going to keep answering them.
Yeah, good stuff.
Yeah, we're going to dive right into this one.
Check this one out.
This is from Yorbo.
Let me sure I get this right.
Yorbo 66 is his name.
Not 65, not 67.
No.
There's either 65 more of him or he was born in 1966.
I don't know which.
Sure.
So with RAM prices going absolutely insane right now, he says,
because AI companies are hogging all the supply,
do you think regular people are just going to start using cloud PCs
and streaming setups instead of building their own rigs,
or will this whole thing blow over before we really have to give up on local hardware?
It's an interesting question.
I've been covering this a little bit for core because it's mostly affecting the consumer market.
And in August, you could buy 64 gigs of RAM for about 150 bucks, a decent kit of 64 gig.
And today, it is $5.99 for the same kit, from the same suppliers.
Most of the retail places, like if you go to MicroCenter, they no longer post prices out in front of their product.
They now make you talk to a sales guy because it's changing that quickly.
it's like lobster you know market market price please ask your waiter yeah usually not quite this volatile but
honestly we've been around long enough tom where i i remember ram being crazy in the 90s and up and up and down
and god it was always a thing so how to his question though how serious is this one then is this demand
different and you know all those kind of questions yeah no it's a great question uh in fact a prescient
question because ars technica has a really good write up about this that we're going to talk about on d tns today
Andrew Cunningham did a great job documenting all that stuff.
He posts 64 gig from Team Delta at $700.
So if you're finding it for $5.99, so nap it up.
Wow.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of assumptions in Yorbo's question,
but of course, Yorbo's not supposed to be a journalist,
so he gets to make those kind of questions.
I don't consider AI hogging the market any more than any company
that needs a resource goes and buys it.
And when you don't have enough,
of that resource it drives up the price. The reason the price goes up is so that you make sure
that the that there's an incentive for people to make more of it or discover more of it.
Thankfully, RAM is not something we have to dig out of the ground. It's something that you can
build more of. Unfortunately, if you want to significantly make more RAM, you have to build a
big old factory. And that takes time. So it's not something you can immediately go like,
all right, just turn on the RAM faucet.
Let's get more RAM pouring out of there.
So, yeah.
The other part of this question I find amusing is like,
so if RAM's expensive, are we all just going to do cloud PCs?
That just tells me that Yorbo is a gamer
and thinks of things in the terms of, well,
you either have your PC that you play games on
that is optimized to your preference,
or you just give up and stream from the cloud.
I think there's a lot of gamers out there
that just go buy a computer from Alienware or somebody like that.
Granted, those are going to get more expensive as RAM goes up to some extent.
But there's a bit of a price pressure, and we see this with tariffs as well,
where a company doesn't want to just raise its price because the customer won't buy it.
So they sometimes will take a smaller profit margin.
So you may be better off going and buying a pre-built PC than building it yourself,
which is not usually the case.
Usually you save quite a bit of money if you build it yourself.
Good news is other parts like GPUs have come back down to Earth.
Solid state drive prices are going up, but they're not skyrocketing as much as RAM is.
Just because the underlying reason for this, and your both properly identifies this,
is building out all these data centers to handle the demand for training and inferencing for large language models and things like that.
You are going to see pressure.
on companies to supply more RAM for the customer,
and I'm curious how they try to solve that,
short of building new factories,
which they are also doing.
Companies are a little loath to build too many new factories
in case the demand goes away at some point.
Like, yeah, the bubble could burst.
That would be one reason the demand goes away.
Or we just kind of tail off and reach our capacity,
and we don't need all that RAM anymore.
You know, this is similar to the shortage of car chips that we had right after COVID, where
companies were a little tentative like, well, I don't want to build a bunch of factories
to build these old car chips because eventually we're not going to need those old car chips
anymore. And eventually that market balanced out. So my short answer to Yorbo, all Yorboes,
one through 66, is hang on, this will probably level out. There's other
factors going on here. The transition to DDR5 is putting pressure on this because while you have
all these data centers buying a lot of RAM, you also just have a lot of people in enterprises and
consumer markets upgrading to DDR5, which means they're buying a lot more RAM at this part of the
cycle than you are in other parts of the cycle. That will start to tail off as well. We don't know
what's going to happen with tariffs, but that's complicating factors. We also have a lot of companies
moving manufacturing around, moving it out of mainland China, building factories in Vietnam
and India and Wisconsin and, you know, all over the place. That changes the logistics and the
supply chain. So as that starts to settle out over the next couple of years, that will relieve the
pressure. But the biggest pressure is the demand for buying all of this stuff by the people
building out these data centers. And two things will happen. That will slow down at some point,
whether there's a bubble or not, it'll either slow down really fast or it'll slow down
slowly. And manufacturers will want to meet the demand because you can make money selling
ramps. So manufacturers are going to get really creative about like, especially the smaller
ones. Like I can steal a bunch of market share from Samsung and SK Hynix if I can figure out
how to solve this problem. Usually that starts to happen and then you start to see the prices
mellow out. If people switch to cloud gaming, I feel like it's just more out of convenience,
not because they don't want to spend the money to build a PC.
Sure.
But this is just like the GPUs were a couple of years ago,
where it's like, ooh, maybe wait for this to level out before you build your PC.
But also, don't overreact.
I mean, yes, 64 gigs is $700 right now.
But if you only need 32 gigs, you're still spending less than $200.
Granted, you would have spent less than $100 back in August.
But the sticker shock, you know,
You know, you should still look at it as like, if I build this PC exactly the way I want it, is it worth the money I spend on it?
Right.
Not, oh, I could have spent less money in August.
Forget August.
It's gone.
You can't do anything about it.
Yeah, it's the OEMs I worry more about because the smaller, the smaller makers are the ones that are already on really thin margins and they're going to have to figure out, you know, how to eke stuff out in the meantime and not overcharge their customers or whatever.
I was talking to doghouse systems about it.
And they're like, yeah.
Yeah, we don't love this.
This is not our favorite thing.
but like we were saying earlier, he's also seen this trend.
You know, this happens.
Every once in a while, Ram just goes, and then it goes down again.
And it's always some weird reason.
I did some homework on this because I was curious about it from a gaming perspective.
It turns out the DDR5 stuff is all about HBM or high bandwidth memory.
And the high bandwidth memory is very beneficial for AI workloads because it is extremely fast compared to previous forms,
previous standards of RAM speed.
So it's all about bandwidth and throughput.
Like you were saying,
LLLM's really benefit from that and other stuff.
So that's why they're buying that stuff.
It just so happens that that DDR5 stuff is your premo memory
for your PC that you want to build.
So, you know, we're cross paths a little bit on the two needs.
Yeah, and DDR4 might be sufficient for you,
but a lot of people are like, yeah,
but then eventually I'm going to have to replace it again, faster.
So, you know, I want to go with the maximum,
technology that I can get right now.
And that makes sense,
especially because because of the pressure on DDR-5's prices,
DDR-4 prices are also rising as well.
You know, a 16-gigig of DDR-4 that cost you $34 bucks in August,
now cost you $89.
Still relatively inexpensive, but not as inexpensive as it used to be.
So back in, I went ahead and did a little math.
In 1998, if you needed 64 megabytes,
of RAM, it would cost you about 100 bucks.
If the industry had decided that RAM should always be a certain amount per
megabyte, and that would just scale however large it got, you today, for 64 gig, a 64 gig kit
for your new PC, you would pay 102,236 dollars.
So just, I'm not saying that's the like the silversed lining in the cloud, but a little bit
of a perspective center though.
yeah yeah because it's just this stuff changes and it changes over time and it changed quickly
it'll change back and i think your bow is going to be okay i don't think we all suddenly
are going with dumb terminals tomorrow because of this particular volatile moment yeah you don't have
to uh and and and look at at doghouse systems and alien wares and all of that and and see if like
well maybe this round i buy i buy pre-built um because they they are going to you see this happening
right now. There's a lot of companies that are giving screaming deals because they know
consumers think prices are too high. And so they're like, we can capture some consumers by
giving them deals. So look for that, that sort of thing in the pre-bill market, the OEMs and
stuff, because they will have an incentive to figure this out. And like you say, I don't envy the
people at Doghouse Systems who have to do the figuring out. They're like, yeah, easy for you
to say merit. But the pressures usually make it so that somebody's like, oh, what if we do
this? Or what if we source it from this place? Or what if, oh, this new manufacturer popped up.
That's always easy to say. And maybe it doesn't happen this time. But usually that kind of thing
happens. And a year from now, we'll probably not be talking about RAM prices anymore. We'll be
talking about something else. The way a couple of years ago, we were talking about GPU prices.
And now GPU prices are back to normal. You can find them even under retail sometimes.
Yeah, some of this will affect SSDs too.
Maybe not as harsh, but I was reading about that.
SSDs are going to go up.
They're not going to skyrocket like RAM,
at least that's all the people who follow this really closely are like,
yeah, there's less of an advantage for the data centers to go with the same kind of
SSDs as consumers.
So they'd rather get specialized SSDs and other kinds of components.
But the pressure is causing them to use some of the consumer level SSDs a little more often.
And so that is what's pushing the SSD prices up a little, but not as extreme as RAM.
RAM is crazy.
So if you do, if you want another glass half full scenario, look at it this way, the exorbitant fees that Apple charges you for RAM upgrades when you're building out your Macs suddenly seem reasonable for a minute, just for a minute.
They're just market price now.
Yeah, just for a brief window of time, it's going to seem like that's normal.
Wow, what a deal.
I can get this 64 gigs of DDR5 for less than $700.
that's crazy why is it usually a thousand uh well anyway this is interesting i hope
yorbo uh takes uh away from this uh what he needs and what he wants i get the frustration though
i'm like it just seems like man consumers always getting the raw into the deal that article
that just came out that said uh i remember who wrote it and it was obviously a little pokey but
they said uh people are buying less new devices they're holding around to their phones longer
their computers oh cnbc yeah there was a research article
out there. CNBC is where
I saw it reported, but there's a research company did
that survey and
found that people are holding
on to devices longer.
Their takeaway was, well,
that could have an adverse effect on the economy.
And I'm just like, yeah, don't blame consumers
because they're hanging on to their stuff. Also,
these things are getting better and better. And we're also at the top
of this curve. And at the top
of that curve, the innovation is slower. So you're not,
every year isn't the new phone it used
to be like in the mid-2000s.
Also, you know, the reason
firm isn't blaming anybody the research firm is saying hey people are doing this
that's going to have this effect why people right exactly yeah yeah but that article
loved pointing out that they did they knew what they were doing they knew what I saw
people taking advantage of that and and trying to stoke outrage and all that and yeah
that's that's silly people holding on to devices longer is going to mean that a certain
sector is not going to sell as many devices that's just math right and and so that is
they slow down on the economy because you sell fewer things. That doesn't mean the economy will
tank. People slow down on buying things all the time. And, you know, we don't, we don't sell as
many buggy whips as we used to, right? Gosh darn it, the economy seems to have survived.
What's the deal with that? You can get one of those for about 700 bucks, I think, a good, a good
buggy whip. A good quality. It's not as fast at cashing as DPR5. That's the trade-off.
Yeah.
The response time is going to be a little bit shorter.
It's not what it used to do.
That's amazing.
Well, Tom Merrick, great answer.
Great question.
You guys.
Keep those coming.
Just go to the website.
You'll find all these ways to send us questions.
We'd be happy to pass them on to Tom on a Wednesday.
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is there anything you'd like folks to know about or do?
Wow.
You know, we usually have an answer at the ready,
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All right.
Fantastic.
Very cool.
Excellent.
Yeah, this RAM thing is for those who are wondering why Valve didn't announce the price of the new steam machine, I can tell you right now.
That's probably why.
They don't know how much, yeah, RAM is going to be at the time of.
Yeah, it's not like they've already bought.
at all. Hopefully they have. If they have, it means
maybe they'll come in a little lower and people will be
stoked, but I don't know.
Don't know.
Let's move on to this.
I got a, oh, I got an email from somebody we know.
Okay.
All it says is I am Sieb and I have returned.
Ask me anything.
Carrot, at symbol, at symbol, at symbol, double exclamation point.
Do we even give Seeb any more of our time?
Do we care?
I mean, you just did.
So I feel like we're obligated to give a loop more.
Do we do?
Do we poke this bear?
Or is this our moment where we just never bring him up again?
I think we give him one chance.
And we say, all right, who are you?
We're asking you anything.
Who are you?
If you can't give us a straight answer, although he's going to say, I'm see, but I told you.
Yeah.
So hold on.
We need to think of our one question that we're giving him a chance with.
And if he blows it, that's it.
I like this.
like this. What do you think it should be? Like, um, uh, I'll even write it in here. So we
remember it. Yeah, let's see. Um, if he just turns out to be like free hotel room or
something, I'm going to fart. No, he's way too jolly. Look at all those weird symbols. And he also,
uh, free hotel room is very precise. That's true. And he's really, this guy was really big
whoop about. Yeah, typos misspellings. But see then, but then, but then,
It's like that mega preacher told everybody not to be gay and don't do drugs and then got caught with drugs and a gay guy.
Maybe, I'm not saying it's the exact same, but maybe he's secretly, he wants to be just a dofus like this.
Pre-hotel room is mixed up with drugs and a gay guy.
No, no, no, I'm just saying maybe he love, maybe he, this is his kink is to like send us misspellings and broken sentences.
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe.
All right.
What's our, what's our question for Sieb that?
Chad says, have we not realized this is, this is Claire, this is Claire.
I don't know that this is Claire.
could be
I don't know
what is
is C
banana gram
for something else
like
Abe's
Abe's C
B's
Bs
Bs
Bs
Bays
Bace
somebody played bass
for something
Ace of bass
Oh we found it
The culprit
Terey
Is an Ace of B
Saba
Saba
I don't know what to ask
What do we need
We need
some kind of
proof of life
basically is what we're doing
What was
because we had questions when
he first started messaging us
and the questions were
what are you talking about?
What is this
this word you've obviously
dispelled?
Yeah, we gave him the benefit of the doubt
with the first one because we were like,
if you just said this wrong,
come back and say what you meant to say.
Right.
So I think if we say,
I don't know.
All right,
Sieb, if you're listening,
we need
a paragraph
that describes your motivation and what you think we're supposed to get out of it.
And if we are satisfied with that, when we get it, maybe we'll let it, you know, stand.
Two, three sentences.
Yes.
Super simple.
Tell us, tell us, what would you like to be in five years?
No, tell us what we're going to get out of this.
Yeah, what is the, because there needs to be sort of a point to this existing.
exactly to this interchange there must be a point all right we'll see what happens like two people in the chat
that gets claire yeah i've heard that before there's been many who said claire i don't i don't know why they
think for sure that it's claire or why they're so convinced i mean it does sound like something clear might
do i don't know yeah i don't know it's claire in here today she's not is she she's not no
unfortunately she's verkan uh well all right let's move on a couple things to mention frogpants dot com slash
TMS. Also, there's a big coverville
today. What's going on? That's right. Today is
the annual Thanksgiving double
shot Beatles episode. Listen, I'm
not going to do a podcast on Thanksgiving. What am I?
Some sort of monster? No. I do
every year
on Wednesday, the Wednesday before
Thanksgiving, do a big show with Beatles
covers. I save them all up for the year.
This year, it's the 60th anniversary
of one of my favorite Beatles albums,
Rubber Soul. Such a great
great album.
And so we're
going to have a lot of focus on covers of songs from that. But other things, you're going
are covers by Randy Bachman from BTO, Lucinda Williams, the tallest man on earth, Natalie Don
from Pamplamus, Pamplamese, Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze, Scala and Kolokney Brothers, Jim
Lauderdale. I mean, it's going to be a massive, massive show. And it's going to take place
shortly after TMS wraps today.
Let's probably say it's usually 10 minutes after TMS wraps.
I'd say give me half an hour after TMS wraps.
Yeah, give me a little time,
but Twitch.tv slash Coverville is your destination.
That's right.
Oh, wait.
Might actually be,
might actually be first thing this afternoon
because Tina needs me to go to Costco
and get some stuff for tomorrow.
All right, let's say,
we're going to lock it in at 1 p.m. mountain time.
And that way I'm done long before Play,
retro starts.
Let me tell you how.
You do that at four, right?
Yeah, at four.
You got plenty of time for that.
Let me tell you what is the worst thing in the world.
And that is a Costco on the day before Thanksgiving.
Tell me about it.
I am, my heart goes with you and I wish you nothing but fair seas because good Lord.
Shoot me in the butt is what I prefer to go into Costco the day before.
Costco does an amazing job, by the way, managing it.
Their people are great.
I love a Costco.
It's not that.
It's everyone goes that day.
We share a Sam's Club thing.
Maybe I'll do that for stuff we got to get
because they don't get as crazy in there.
There's a Costco that's not too bad
about 10 minutes further than the other
two Costco's that are fairly close to us.
Less people, though?
Less people.
And I think that's the one we're going to go to.
Worth it. Worth it.
Totally worth it.
Yep. That's the way to do it.
Quick note, you heard us talking about Ram with Tom today.
From a gamer's perspective,
I wrote like a whole article about this.
up on the new core.
Show website, yeah, the substack.
So if you are interested in that,
go to core.
dot show, it'll take you straight there.
And it's public this article.
You read all my hot takes.
I even put a little art in there,
some great comments happening.
It explains the whole thing and kind of,
you know,
although the prices have already gone up $200,
so my $5.99 no longer holds.
But other than that, it's,
I think it's a good read.
So if that sounds interesting to you
and you want to see what's going on
at large with Core these days,
go to core.
show and check it out. That is going to do it for us. We need to play music. So Brian, we do.
You have it. And we will. This one is going out to our friend Tom. Tom says, greetings and
birthday cake. I'm sorry, greetings S and birthday cake. Sorry, you just got an S. That's fine. I'll take it.
I think he started and he just didn't come up with anything. He forgot to go back to it and add something.
Yeah, I can't think of any birthday adjacent things with an S. Hold on. Surprise party.
You're right. He could have done that. He could have done surprise.
party. Tom didn't try is the problem. Yeah. Tom didn't try.
Today is my beautiful brides from her birthday. It's been a crazy year for us with her mom
dying, then her dad, then her dog. Oh my God. I didn't read ahead. Then her mom's cat and now
waiting on the IRS so we can finish probate. Cheese Louise. I read the end of this to figure out
what song he wanted and then didn't read the middle part. Holy cow. Yeah, it's a story here.
If not for your antics and K-pop demon hunters, we probably would have gone crazy.
uh if this cover doesn't work please play another k-pop demon hunter's cover for her and his request is the soda pop cover by uh jonathan y music uh basically the dude who does these great metal covers of things jonathan i think it's frog leap oh is uh yeah he's he's awesome all his stuff he is awesome and this cover is awesome listen it's not hunt tricks it's the saja boys here is soda pop by jonathan
Don't want to be nice, hey, I need you, I need you, I need you, feel me, yeah, I need you.
Feel me, yeah, I'm going to meet you, so much, yeah, I'm gonna be in the middle yet,
can be everything that I need, taste so sweet, and he still makes me one more, yeah.
Looking like sex, you gotta like that.
You've got it like that.
He's a big fight, wanna bite, yeah.
Boy, you're about to know I'm not,
wanna play.
Oh, I've got to go through boy, want your way.
When you're in my arms, I hold you so tight, so tight.
Can I go or go?
No, not tonight.
Now, but you got up there's got up.
You're going, I'm going to be.
Because I need you to need me.
I'm mad.
I think you'll feed me so refreshing.
Ready to go to pop.
Girl, I can think of every time I drink up
You're my sort of pop, my love's sort of pop
Cool me down, you're so high, put me in a bubble-up
You're my soul-up, my love's all-pop
My little sort-pop
My little sort of pop
Oh, maybe want to send the top
I'm going to come and hit the fly
Every little trap me drops gets the pop
What is it not?
Yes, I'm stepping red and then it's done
I need a second round and pour a line
You don't stop to my soul
And I'm pop, here's no now
Ooh, so gay can know what you know
Not until day no chase of so
No morning, come out,
wait it's so long for a taste of sour
So the weight is over, baby
Come fill me up
We just can't get enough
You're all I can take up
Every time I drink up
You're my sword-up, my little float-up
Goom me down is so hard
Put me out my one's die
You're my son-upap,
My little sort of pop
You're my sort of pop
My little sort of pop
You're a foot apart
Got to drink and get me drive
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