The Morning Stream - TMS 2930: Hobo Sardines

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

The Internet Comes On Computers Now. Heavily Nude. Curdy and Chunky. How many moons does Tony Hawk have? Just Fishy Enough. 26 Bones Burger. Spindle Bindle. Is it Too Early For a Sardine Taco. Fire Up Up. Lord of the Tears. Uncooked Egg Stuff. The Key to Good Gift Giving --- KIM. Do trivia properly, come on it's not rocket science! I assumed a dude. Poop Or Die with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Don't trust anyone who gives you a bottle of yogurt soda. But do trust people that tell you how good it is to support this show at patreon.com slash TMS. Those are your best friends. Coming up on the morning stream, the internet comes on computers now. Heavily nude. Curdy and chunky. How many moons does Tony Hawk have?

Just fishy enough. 26 Bones Burger. Spindlebindle. Is it too early to get a sardine taco? Fire up. Lord of the tears. Uncooked egg stuff. to good gift giving, Kim.

Do trivia properly. Come on, it's not rocket science. I assumed a dude. Poop or die with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Time. Leisure time. Did you ever stop to think how much leisure time you really have? Some of us put our leisure time to good use. And some of us spend most of our leisure time just moping. Moping. and schmeckon The morning stream

Talent in the can, ladies and gentlemen I love that one. Hey, everybody, welcome to TMS. It is good, right? There's one where he kind of crashes out. is also a favorite. A strawberry pop-dart blow torch. Yeah, there's a few where he just can't get it out.

And I don't think he ever intended for those to be intros, but... No, but they're the ones that we kind of all like this. Yeah, we're keeping that torch lit, Scott Fletcher. That pop torch, we're going to keep that pop torch lit. That's right, buddy. It's good to be here, everybody. It is a TMS Thursday, December 4th, 2025. We're almost to a 525.

We'll get there. almost there. Yeah. 1-2525. That's not bad. I like these. It's all right. But we're, you know, hurtling through this month like nobody's, nobody's business. I mean, four days since we were complaining about the end of the last month. So, uh, right. I know exactly. It is, you know, I am, uh, Jose at Panera bread asked me, because we chat every day. Sure. Uh, he asked me if I'm ready for Christmas. And I blurred it out. Oh yeah. As a matter of fact, I can't wait for this holiday like this year to be over yeah truth is i'm not at all ready for christmas i don't even know why i said that why when he asked me that question why i didn't take a second to think about my

answer and say no i'm not ready for christmas i'm i wish there were four more weeks of november before we hit december yeah i don't feel ready either i'm with you yeah i would have told him the same and and then wondered what the hell i was talking about because this is like this is one of those years where I feel I don't know how to describe it I don't have like gift stuff I haven't worked that all out although we're on the

on like the frog pants front and stuff I'm sending all the co-hosts and producers and all that stuff we're well ahead on that but that's because my wife's in charge of making sure she I let you know keep her in charge of that because I use that smoky salt every morning

on my eggs I do like either like fried eggs or today I did scramble. Today I did the method of scrambling where you you scramble the eggs in a different container. You pour them into the pan, hot pan, oil on the bottom of the pan. And then when the eggs start to solidify, you take your spatula and you slide everything over to one side

and it kind of takes all the uncooked egg stuff and moves it to the center where it cooks. And then once those solidify, you slide it the other direction. and you just keep doing that until your eggs are done, as opposed to, like, you know, constantly moving everything around with your fork. For whatever reason, this seems to make things lighter and fluffier, this weird method. I'm a big fan of a good, a good scramble, so I'll try that.

Yes, yes. I'll try that. I usually do it the way you're describing the bad way, which is I put it in. With a fork. Yeah, and then you just kind of move it. Yeah, exactly. And it ends up being kind of curdy and chunky, you know? it's it's really um it's something i saw online let's see

the internet you say oh my gosh the internet believe it or not um i don't do the um i don't often do the sour cream but the sour cream mixing that in as your eggs are starting to solidify that actually is really good too when you do that because that adds a little bit of flavor like a whole extra tangy flavor to your eggs and counterbalances with the salt and it's really, really good, but, um, well, I'm sold. I'm doing this. Yeah. Yeah. I can't find the video, but there was a video of like this person doing like, oh, that's interesting. Okay, I'll try that. It's about the only thing I cook that I feel okay about is eggs. Like I, I know what I'm doing and yeah, have never tried that. So, uh, that is the opposite of weird eggs, actually, by the way.

It is. It's very mellow eggs. Yeah. So we now have that we now have the range. We have weird eggs. all the way to what you did. Right, right. In between is up to you people at home. Figure it out. Exactly. Yes. That's great.

I'm going to try it. Maybe tomorrow. Cool. Try that. Yeah. Guys, we got some stuff today. Wendy will be here later. Been a while.

She's been off for a few weeks since, I think, since the Vegas funeral thing. She hasn't been here. Oh, wow. She hasn't. Yeah. No kidding. Maybe once.

I can't remember. I know we missed a Thursday because of something. Yeah, one Thursday where a doctor. Oh, this is it blood drawer or something, right? Oh, for me. Yeah. And she had to be gone. She's had a couple things. Yeah. So we've all just been nuts. But today should be back. We've got a great question. We're going to answer that today. I wanted to start with this, though.

Trivia last night. You told me to remind you to tell us about the cheater trivia that you went to, although you didn't detect any cheaters. But you were going to talk about it. I didn't detect any cheating. Yeah, this was less about the cheating trivia. This is more about, all right, we go into the final question with a sizable lead. This is a, so there's a couple of reasons that I'm not a fan of this place that we go for trivia. And it has nothing to do with the place. We're going to a dining hall. They have Cedys wings and they are some of the best buffalo wings I've ever had. There's a great pizza place.

We got pizza takeout for lunch yesterday, which was excellent. The Mexican place is run by Padilla. Oscar Padilla, who was a winner of chopped or he was a winner of some reality cooking competition. And is the food is excellent. I'm not exaggerating when I say, and I've said this before, they make a burger that is maybe the best burger I've ever had. I think this is the guy right here. But it's, that's the guy, Oscar Padilla. So it's worth the 26 bones.

Jeez, that's expensive. It's worth the 26 bones. It is an expensive burger. but it comes with these really well-seasoned steak fries. They're almost, you can't even call them fries. They're like, they're frets. Oh, man. That sounds awesome.

But it's juicy. It is a thick-ass burger. What I need to do is for science, I need to go and get one of these burgers and video the whole experience. Yeah, you should. Because hearing about a $26 burger sounds like, well, Mr. Hoyty-Toydy, Sherry Niles. No, the only other time I think I've had one that expensive and that good was that time we went to Gordon Ramsey's burger place. That was really good. I'd eat there again.

You would get to love the name, by the way. You think about Gordon Ramby, Gordon Ramsey's burger, it's just BR, G.R. right? Yeah. But the GR stands for Gordon Ramsey. Yeah. It's BR Gordon Ramsey. It's brilliant. Some weirdo on his team was like, wouldn't this be funny?

And he goes, eff and do it, or whatever you would say. Why don't you just shut up and do it? which you don't care uh that's great now piss off all of you back up to your dorms find two people that your team would be better off without i've never it's funny i've never seen a full episode of that but i know yeah i've seen so many scenes that i feel like yeah that's all you need to it's all you need to see anyway so so we go into the last round oh yeah that was the other complaint i had i was getting to my complaints um number one complaint is that that just seems to be the place the place uh where cheaters run rampant the only trivia place where we're

cheating where people feel like the rules don't apply to them and they'll come and cheat. The other thing, the other complaint I have is this trivia company has more of a focus on and it's a business. I get it. Their job is to make money, but their focus is on the bars as opposed to the players. And they don't realize that, well, if you don't make a good experience for the players, it doesn't matter if you make a good experience for the bar because the players, because the players won't show up they won't spend money and the bar won't make money right and if you go to the company is called not rocket science trivia and even if you go to their website because when they start popping up in colorado we're like oh let's go check out this new trivia company that's

doing stuff all around the city um the first three fourths of the page is is plugging it for bars and saying here's why your bar needs this and it's all these weird recorded videos of all there are different quiz masters who feel like they're in a cult going not rocket science trivia is the best thing that's ever happened to my bar and it's da da da da da da wow but it's the quiz master's saying it like we have a full house every Thursday night when we do trivia and look at all these people here's the problem with that or here's the problem the other problem with their game though it's um six rounds of three questions each so if you do the math that's 18 questions Why am I going to a bar just to answer 18 questions?

Geeks who drink gives me eight questions, seven, eight question rounds, 56 questions for my night. Yeah. It's more than double, which you get at, uh, uh, I want questions. I'm not, I'm not going to play just one no screen of jeopardy, Ken Jennings. I want double jeopardy as well. Give me all the questions. They need a guy like you running this, by the way. They do.

They really do. Because clearly somebody's just got a bad. I don't know. They got a bad idea how this is supposed to work or something. Yeah. And clearly, um, clearly the, uh, the, uh, the, the one thing I need to add to my plate is running a, a trivia company. Yeah. But if they gave you, you know, if they, if it paid good or something, you could do all this remotely. You don't have to do too much. I could easily do it remotely and just hire quiz masters and, and stuff like that locally. I mean, I, I know a guy who, who does that for another company, and I could easily, excuse me, work with him and say, let's just start

our own company and take the best things from all the other trivia companies and say, here's our trivia, and here's why it's better. Yeah, just disrupt that business, whatever it is, you know, however it works. Now, the other complaint I have about not rocket science trivia is their final question is a wagering question, and normally I'm fine with that because you've got other companies who do your last question is a wagering question but um on this one you can wager anything so even if you go into the last round with a nice lead unless you bet at all you really run the chance of of uh run the chance of second place team overtaking you so we kind of have to go into it like well we're seven

points ahead of of second place we kind of need to go all in and it's one of these where you have to make a wager before you before you know the questions so you have to you hear the category which in this case was general knowledge and then you make your wager and then you then you take your answer up all right so general knowledge general knowledge thank you for that yeah like movies uh tv something just give us general knowledge it's a great it's a great rank in the army but it doesn't work for uh trivia you know exactly so um our final question here's here's our final question i'm going to give you the requisite 20 seconds to answer. All right.

And it is a math question. Oh, great. My strong point. Okay. Your answer is going to be a number. Okay. And it is going to be the sum of these three items. Okay.

Tony Hawk's age, current age. Okay. The number of Jurassic Park slash Jurassic World movies. And the number of planets that have moons. You have 20 seconds. A number of planets have moons? Oh, geez. Okay.

So 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 plus 58, I think is right. So I'm going to say 68. Okay. 68 is your final answer. Yeah, that's off the top of my answer. Tony Hawk, 58 is your... I think he's that much older than us? He is that much old.

He's 57. He's pretty close to that much older than us. All right. That was where we screwed up. There are six planets with moons, basically, because Pluto's not a planet anymore. Jerks. But Mercury and Venus don't have moons, but all the other planets do. There are seven Jurassic movies.

Oh, that's funny. I'm mixed in. I've got one less on that. Did you flip those? I didn't flip them, but my answers look like they're flipped. I thought it was six moons or six planets with moons. and four, or no, no, I'm sorry, I thought it was four planets with moons

and six Jurassic Park movies. Oh, funny. See, you had low on both of them. Okay, yeah. Seven Jurassic Park movies, three, three Jurassic Park, four Jurassic World.

And Tony Hawk's age is 57. So the answer they were looking for was 70, but they were going to take anything, uh, between 67 and, uh, 73. So a three point range in either direction.

Okay. So I actually made it on the low end, I guess. You made it on the low end. And, we thought Tony Hawk might have been 54 no 53 so we were one under the range oh man we lost oh it's too bad yep that's a hard one though like how would you who the hell knows Tony Hawk's age off the top of their head like that exactly yeah I still

got it wrong I said 58 but I was still wrong but you were one off you were really if you were in part of our team you would have been able to come up with the Tony Hawk age we had the other stuff nailed we knew exactly how many Jurassic movies. We knew exactly how many planets, but... I feel like I only knew this from just knowing when I was playing the games that he was slightly older. That he was that much older.

Yeah. It wasn't by much, but, you know, I knew it was a couple years. But, yeah, that's great. So, do you like that kind of question? Like where it's like a... I don't. You have no time and you got to hurry up and find numbers and smash them together. I like it as a tiebreaker.

I think this is the right way to do a tiebreaker question because whoever's closest to the pin gets the prize right like if the answer is 70 and this team says 68 the other team says 64 then it goes to the 68 team i don't like it as a final question because there's no way to plan for the wagering on this there's no you know it's not it's not as much clever trivia knowledge as it is here are three random numbers that we came up with at them together yeah it's a little you know you wouldn't ask you wouldn't ask you wouldn't ask how old is Tony Hawk as a regular trivia question? So why make it

part of your final question of the game? I don't like it. Yeah. I don't like it. I mean, I'm happy I was in the range, but that's all I'm happy about. Yes, you did great. Yes. Well, nicely done. Well done. I have a recommendation. Okay. Everybody have a daughter named Carter who makes

canned sardine tacos. Wow. Now that's going to sound nasty to some of you. Maybe even Brian. I love sardines. I'm, I'm a I'm an anchovies on pizza and sardines in, I guess you put anchovies in a Caesar salad dressing as well, but I'm not opposed to a sardine. Me either. I'll take a sardine. I don't mind the high in what's the thing you get out of those.

Omega-3s or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I don't mind that here and there. It kind of depends on how they're made, but she made these insane tacos last night. and they were so freaking good but now I want them all the time so what else please tell me what else is in the taco

because it's sardines on their own I'm not a open the can oh right just put the fish in there sit around with the other hobos around a barrel with fire coming out of the top of it that's what I always visualize with sardines is this is the food of hobos

sitting around you know this is the romanticized 60s, 70s. Yeah, hobos have powers. They had powers, man. They had powers. I'm not referring to the unhoused. Yeah.

Keep your emails to yourselves. We know there's a difference out here. Yes. They got bindles. Not a term I'd refer to refer to the unhoused today, obviously. Of course not. Never.

But these guys, they travel, they travel by plane or train. They got a cool spindle, bindle thing, whatever it is. Yeah, they got a bindle on a stick. It's basically a bandana with, their 12 belongings. They gather around

by the train tracks around a barrel that has fire coming out of the top of it. It's a choice to live this way. They have magical powers where they can discern. They are, they know what's...

They leave mystical chalk marks on the ground to tell you where somebody's friendly to hobos and where they're not friendly to hobos. They're like shaman, really. Kind of, yeah. At the end of the day. Yeah. So now,

once again, keep your emails to yourself. We've explained us. We've explained ourselves. Not a term we would use to describe anybody today. No. Because it's not good. Now, how she prepared these, I'd have to ask her. But I know that they were pan fried up with something.

And then on top of it later, it was fresh radish slices. So she got actual radishes and did the whole that. Yeah. She did homemade coal salon on top of that. Some mayo that was like cute. Coupy Mayo sort of, but it may have been like that Korean Mayo stuff. Yeah, love the Coupie Mayo. I'll try to get an actual list of this and put on the Discord or something so people don't have to wing it with my bad descriptions.

Because there's a picture of a Coupie doll on the Coupie Mayo, was that where Coupie dolls came from or did Coupie dolls inspire Coupie Mayo? Oh my gosh, dude. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, please continue. Can we get an answer? We need some stat answers. Someone out there let us know. But it was so, so good. And just the right amount of. I think it was like some kind of pepper jack cheese or maybe it was white cheddar, I'm not sure.

Soft flour tortillas. Some, something else. I can't remember, but, dude. I had three of these things. I could have eaten 10 of them. They were so freaking good. And they were just fishy enough and not too fishy. Because you can fish tacos are a thing.

You get fish tacos. Absolutely. Usually it's cod. It's usually it's fried cod. Yeah, a little milder, right? Than a canned sardine. but the sardines in that form are just enough of a kind of fish bite. It's hard to explain that flavor, but it's the thing you like and that I like.

I like that kind of... Totally. And you basically can't really add any other salt to the taco because the sardines will carry the salt level. Yeah. And they did. And they are very high in sodium. So you kind of don't want to eat those too much if you're not watching other sodium intake in your life. But, yeah, yeah.

Oh, man. I just can't say enough about this. That sounds amazing. It sounds really, really good. Yeah. She did a killer job. way better than I would have. All right, we have time for a little bit of news

before we have Wendy come and join us. And so we're going to get to that now. Here we go. Today's news is brought to you by Brought to you by Coverville, where today we're doing an Alex Chilton cover story. I think it's my first ever Alex Chilton cover story. Now the name, you probably,

when you hear the name Alex Chilton, you think of a song by the replacements called Alex Chilton, which is about Alex Chilton. but what more do you know about Alex Chilton? Did you know that he was a member of the band The Box Tops? He was the lead vocalist for the Box Tops who had the big hit song with My baby just wrote me a letter

D-Dun-Dun-Dun-N-N-N-N-N-N-A. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know that song. The kid was just 16, and the producer said two things to him. Sing it with a growly voice, which is why he says, you know, lonely days are gone.

I'm going home, but he was 16. And he also, the producer said, pronounce it aeroplane instead of airplane. Okay. Give me a ticket for an airplane. It doesn't sound right. Arrowplane. Yeah. That ground made him 20 years older, it feels like.

He just got older with that girl. They really did. Yeah, for sure. And then also, after the box tops, he was a member of Big Star, lead vocalist of a band called Big Star, which is another one of these bands that inspired so many of your favorite bands. So, and Big Star has one of the greatest songs of all time, two of the greatest songs of all time, but the big one is the Ballad of El Guido.

And that is, that's a song that would be one of the first songs that I learn on guitar. It's like, I want to be able to sing the Ballad of El Guido. Anyway, so there you go. Nice. So it is, the Alex Chilton cover story. It's going to be coming up right after TMS today and be here and listen and realize how much stuff you know by Big Star

and Alex Chilton that you didn't realize you knew on Alex Chiltern. That makes two songs now that I've learned about that I didn't know was him, so. Yeah, yeah, Twitch.tv slash Coverville. Very nice. Here is a quick story for you. Oh, you know another song you know by Alex Chilton

that you don't realize you knew? What's that? He goes, hanging out down the street, the same old thing you did last week. Yeah, the theme song to that 70s show is an adaptation of big stars in the street

by Cheap Trick and they add their own We're all all right, we're all to the end So that's a big star, that's a big star song. Wow, I wouldn't have known that. That's crazy. More trivia for you about, okay, so now we can go on to the road. Well, next time I'm at the cheating trivia place,

I'm going to, I hope they bring that up. Yes, that'll be a question for sure at the cheating trivia at the cheating trivia at the cheating trivia it's a fun name actually the cheating trivia uh door dash driver hit with felony charges after allegedly recording and posting video of semi nude customer oh geez oh boy this driver was hit with serious charges after she was arrested not a dude so all everyone assumed a dude yeah i did this i did assume a dude sometimes it's ladies you know this is this is kind of a dude thing yeah it's very i mean if we're to be honest, the vast majority

are going to be dudes and stories like this. This happened to be a woman. She was arrested for recording a partially naked man while making a delivery. Content creator Olivia Henderson was making a delivery in residence in Oswego, New York. By the way, a keyword there is content creator. Yeah,

exactly. Oh, boy. I'm a DoorDash driver who's really a content creator. And I chronicle my naked men, I see. Yeah. Last month, when she filmed a customer passed out with his pants and his underwear around his ankles. I'd call that more than partially. Yeah, that's

geez, okay. That's heavily nude. That's heavily nude. That's all the way nude. Anyway, this is all according to the New York Post, the door was allegedly wide open when she arrived. That's a bit of a problem as well. As much as we're going to throw the book at this lady for her doing this, maybe that guy shouldn't have his door open and his pants down. Just saying. Yes. Yes. When you order your food, maybe have the wherewithal to keep your pants on

at least for the duration of the food delivery process. Yeah, and shut your door. And shut your door. Because you're supposed to drop the food off on the porch and get out. GTFO. Take a picture of it on the way out to prove you did it and then GTFO. Yeah. Or at least like some of the,

I've seen videos of those guys that drop off a delivery of any kind. Take the picture and then grab the thing and leave. Really? Yeah. Assholes. I know. It's the worst. I'm sure they don't last long

at any of these delivery jobs but still it's freaking sucks well anyway it says the 23 year old contacted police almost said contracted police that's weird and claimed that she

was lured into the house by the man and described the incident as an instance of sexual assault however ring camera footage taken from the residence purportedly showed Henderson letting herself into the home and police reportedly stated the man in the video hadn't given her

any indication to enter oh my god so we'll see so she showed up sees the door partially open pushes herself in and starts videoing the guy passed out on the floor with his pants down yeah that's the that's the current evidence so we'll see how it goes in court she'll she'll have to prove any uh you know yeah the other thing she'll have a whole new location to create her content that's right that's right And if I had just a word of advice for all the fine gig workers out there, if you see a naked dude on a couch with an open door. Yeah, yeah.

Maybe don't hang around there very long. Maybe leave the Shake Shack stuff and get out. No matter who you are, just get out of there. You know, that's what I would have done. Exactly. I think it's just, you know, you just leave it on the porch. Isn't that the deal? At least that's the way the deal has always been for me.

It's like... It's contactless like it was in the pandemic, right? Didn't that kind of stick? Right? That idea stuck. I think it kind of stuck from there. And, you know, you ring the doorbell. You put it on the doorstop.

You ring the doorbell. You take a picture of it. If they come to the door, you say, hey, thanks. There's your food. Have a good day. And if not, you go back to your car and you drive off. Yeah. That's what I say.

Now, let's, if, just for fun, pretend that whole story was a dude so that Claire won't be mad at us for the rest of the day. okay pretend that was a dude and everything's okay uh hey let's talk about uh not doing anything else except talking to my sister let's talk about not talking about anything yeah i just realized what time it is so we're just gonna we're just gonna do this we just jump right into uh we may as well right like go all the way in uh all right let's play this and we'll get her in here something wrong batman has anybody seen wendy well i don't know has anyone Wendy are you there I'm here Hey what's going on

Hey we're going to moms We're going to moms on Sunday for a Christmas hangout Get Together thing Do you want to fly one more time this year And just get in a plane And you know fly again Do you want to do that?

I do not But maybe you guys could I don't know if you've heard of the internet But you could just have a camera on or something Yeah we're going to do that We're going to come at we're going to get there With a camera on On your head

Yeah A GoPro. Yeah It's all going to work out great for everybody. Anyway, it's good to see it. It's been a while. Lots of in and outs and travels and business here and there. And finally, Wendy's here for an episode.

Yeah, finally. She's back. Everything going okay. You're having a fun, you know, pretty Christmas time and all that. Yeah. Yeah. It's when all the elf behavior has to kick in, you know, you're going to make Christmas magic. Is Elliot all healed up?

He is. He's got a pretty wicked scar. though, and we're trying to convince him it's cool that everyone want one. It is cool. It is. It's a war wound.

Yeah, it is. And they do it right on the collarbone, like the top, right? So eventually you'll just have, you know, I don't know, it'll look like you've been damaged. So it's like a whole,

like it goes from the shoulder all the way back up to where it connects. It's pretty long. I'd say it's four inches. Oh my gosh, dude. It's decent. I mean,

they reconstructed a lot of stuff, but he's doing great. And as soon as he could rip that, It was very funny. He had, like, the brace on, like, it's all Velcroed. And he just, like, rips it off, like, the Hulk. Like, oh, I'm done. Everybody wants, everyone's all, everyone's going to want him for their boyfriend, though.

That's how this works. He's seen some stuff. He's kind of a door. He's a scar man. The other day, we had this very funny moment trying to leave a Walmart, and the door wouldn't open. And we were talking about my worst nightmare. someone had left a bag like on the ground and I was like what if there's a bomb and as we're leaving the door wouldn't open I'm like this is my worst nightmare dying in the entryway of a Walmart oh my gosh yeah it was super funny anyway he laughed so hard and loud and I was like is that your real laugh and he's like I'm a kind of quiet laugher I'm like I know and it was very weird wow you tapped into his loud laugh now it's really funny now it's there yeah I'm glad that didn't happen to you I'm glad that you're here instead not blown up in a Walmart.

Yeah, geez. Well, let's get to this question. Of course, as you people at home know, Wendy is an actual therapist. She helps people all the time with their real problems. And she comes here on Thursdays and helps you with yours. And today we're going to hear from an emailer named MJT, who sent us this relatively short one. Hopefully there's enough info here for Wendy to, you know, say some stuff.

But here's what he says. Dear Wendy and the boys, that's you and me, Brian. I don't know if you knew. The boys. Yeah, which I'm a definitely a hollander. Yeah. Oh, that's probably got better. Yes.

Yeah, I've definitely. Wendy Darling and the boys. How are those maggots, Michael? There you go. Yeah, good. Perfect. Let's go. Where is it?

Oh, here it is. I'm 47. I haven't cried since my grandfather's funeral in 1989. I was 14. Not at my dad's funeral. Not when my daughter was born. Not when my dog died. Nothing.

I never know about it. Sorry, I never thought about it until last week. I was watching some dumb commercial. and felt this pressure in my chest, like something trying to claw out. It scared me, and I left the room. My wife thinks it's unhealthy. She says, I'm bottling things up.

He put that in quotes. But I feel fine. I function. Good job. Decent relationship with my kids. I exercise. I'm not depressed. At least I don't think so.

Is something wrong with me? Should I be worried? I can't cry anymore? Or is this just how some people are wired, how some people are wired, respectfully MJT? Well, Michael Jordan. Thomas. No, we don't know his name. Mary Jane Thompson. I feel like this guy and I

could get along because I also think it's weird that prior to Luke's funeral, I haven't like really cried in a long, maybe a decade of time. Maybe get a little choked up for a movie or something

here or there, like a Pixar like during the pandemic, the Pixar movie where the van got destroyed. What was that called Onward. I love that movie. And when the van was sacrificed, I got choked up during that stupid scene. But I also feel this way. Like when I was young, I was, I could be quick to emotion. These days, I'm like a rock with too thick a crust on it. And I don't feel like I can bring it out very well. So then when it does happen, I feel like the biggest blubbering idiot of all time, like I sort of felt at Luke's funeral. I just kind of lost my mind there. But it was very cathartic.

So why is that, Wendy? Why do some, maybe specifically men? I don't know. It seems like this might be more prominent with men. Why are we so tamped down with the stuff and can't let our emotions out? Okay. Let's just first identify what crying is. So think of it.

Like if, no, it would take only a couple days to a week. I don't know. if you never pooped, right, you'd die. Yeah. It would be there is certain processes the human body requires or death ensues, right? And you would not feel good, okay? So I'm not comparing pooping and crying exactly together, but there is a similar, better out than in problem that you have.

I did both during the first time I watched Love Actually, by the way. So there's a little bit of comparison. Yeah, cry pooping is the worst kind. Anyway, but if you think about like expressing, right, like getting out, our tear ducts. Our emotions. Yeah, our emotions. Our teardocks are different than sort of what you think of them. Like we have our eyes can get watery for, you know, trying to get something out of your eye.

Like it has multiple purposes, but it really has this like definitely one of its main functions is to squirt out water when you're really sad. And it's interesting, right? it's a it's it has to so laughing i mean maybe you fart sometimes accidentally but like you're not this is a bathroom episode everyone sorry that's all right you're a job that's all right yeah welcome welcome to the morning stream everybody yeah um anyway and this like you know the the it's it's serves a purpose so like scott when you said you cried at luke's funeral you felt like it was a lot and it wasn't i was a witness i saw you you seemed you were a normal level of teary. But when you're not in the habit of it or feel like you can like not like when

he says it feels like something crawling out of his chest, that is someone who doesn't cry because that's the feeling if that would be new or you don't experience it for how many years is that goodness, right? That's a long time. And so it is going to feel like you're out of control when really you don't seem out of control, you're not out of control. And doesn't even mean you should or shouldn't be out of control. It is a natural process that we have to manage the experience of being a human. Now, you alluded to this. And let me ask the two of you, do you have memories and anyone out there can be any gender, but probably more male presenting folks, like memories of being told not to cry or names were called if someone seemed to be emotional, right? Like that stifling of the male

emotional bandwidth is is pretty universal do you guys have memories of this or i have one one specific memory from a i'll just say family member um it wasn't my dad my dad was pretty he was pretty teary he was pretty teary yeah thank goodness he was okay letting that stuff out but uh there was someone in our family who i can't remember oh well without getting too specific embarrassed me in front of a bunch of friends and it and I'm probably 11 or something maybe 10 and I'm so embarrassed by it that I start crying and trying to leave and this person I remember saying oh don't cry they only babies and girls cry or something like that some kind of comment like that and I remember that very distinctly because it just made a very

embarrassing situation like 50 times worse because now I'm being told that my reaction to what was embarrassing is completely off and and then you go into the rest of your life and you're with friends friend groups in school you know you're in junior high and and none of none of your friends want to see each other cry because or you don't want to be crime front yeah they've all had the same messaging so they all continue through life like this yeah thinking that they should never let it loose. But for me, I think that's the point that I could point to, because I still remember it

like super intensely. Yeah. How about you, Brian? And notice the insult was a girl or a baby. Yeah. First of all, both adorable things. Yeah. Through you.

Especially baby girls. We got Phoebe's upstairs right now. She's adorable right now. She's got a colon. She keeps coughing in my face. But other than that, she's great. But if you hear what it is, first of all, saying anything's like a girl as an insult is why the world is so problematic. I won't carry on

on that topic. But it's the, like, built within that statement is there is permission for girls, right? Like, they're allowed. But baby's allowed and a girl's allowed is within that statement, right? And so, you know, there is a lot more leeway for women to cry and girls to cry than there has ever been for boys. I don't know if it's like full freedom because then you're like, ah, you're crazy. So you're either crazy or you're allowed to some extent, but it can't ever be too much. And it kind of depends on the person, right? So whoever did this to you and whoever, Brian, your story is about also had the same training and probably from a generation worse than them too. So that's the other piece. Okay. So Brian, you got a story?

Yeah, similar. I mean, again, family members never put that, put that stigma on me with like, you know, equating it to babies or, or whatever, but probably in elementary school or, you know, right around that age being told, you know, only girls and babies cry. And it was, you don't grow up with the name Brian with very few things that rhyme with Brian without the fear of forever being labeled as crying Brian. So you, you know, once the first iteration of that hits, you like kind of lock those, those feelings up. But, you know, it's so ingrained. And imagine you're going to speak to this, probably the same thing that's happened to MJAT. I would not have a problem at all with crying, you know,

right now in the, for the last 25, 30 years. No problem with it. I'm of an age where it's like, yeah, no problem. Probably cried during the beginning of up. But other than that, I didn't cry when Tristan was born. I didn't cry when we put Daisy down or put Ruby down or put any of our cats down that we had to do. But I definitely got choked up and it wasn't a matter of saying, well, this is all I'm going to allow myself. No, I would have been fine crying. It's kind of like Scott and puking. Bring it on. Happy to puke. Yeah, it's true. I'd be happy to cry. Happy to cry. Happy to barf, happy to cry. Happy to barf, cry. Whatever you need to do. Right. Exactly. But But I think it's so the the roots of that tree are so deep, even though a tree's been cut down, there's like, nope, can't cry, Brian. Here's why. I can't do it.

Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So I'm assuming MJT, if you're listening, I want you to think about that. Where, where you taught the, not the ethics of crying, but the availability of crying. That is a. as a thing to be a shame of or a sort of useful tool or a welcomed relief. Because if you think about often why we're crying, so maybe you'll see something that touches your heart and your emotions come to the surface. Often there's crying about things like that, then crying about happy things. There's a number of ways we cry and or need, have the feeling of crying, but a very common one. And this is often when kids run into and then they're treated so poorly for is crying out of overwhelm or frustration or build up, right?

And that's adults too. We're walking around stress balls and we are not letting it out in healthy ways. And so we do it in other ways, but that if we could actually let ourselves cry, we would feel better. And that's probably your experience, Scott, right, recently when you said you felt relief or talk about it. It was cathartic. Yeah, it was very cathartic.

It was like, actually really hard to explain. Going into that trip, I had been experiencing since I heard about Luke's passing. The worst shoulder neck pain thing that I just thought I was sleeping funny or whatever. But also in the back of my head, I'm like, this is the one you always get when something's real stressful. Like when your mom broke her leg, I had this for a while. When Kim's sister died, I had it for a while. like a lot of life's hardest moments it sounds like this weird it sounds like i'm saying i got a bum leg or something but it's it's just this tension i get and it's so bad that i can

almost like not stand up or like look straight i get blurry vision from it it hurts so bad and i had that for the whole three weeks or whatever it was between his death and and the funeral until i got up there and then said my thing and then sat down it went away I'm like, poof, gone. And I haven't had it since. And that's a physical indicator of the stress that it relieved. Yeah. But also I just, I felt better about the whole thing.

I felt better about my relationship with Mark and trying to learn how to be the brother I can be for what he needs in this time. You know what I mean? Like, and before me doing that, I didn't know how to how to handle that or do that. and I think I even talked about it while I was standing there. And since then, we've had these really great interactions that we haven't had in forever. You know, we're in two different worlds in a lot of different ways, both, you know, literal and hypothetical. And somehow the act of getting that up there and getting that out of me just relieved all that. And so it made me kind of mad that I can't, I mean, I guess I cried when,

Tay was born like an absolute freak at three in the morning. Just lost my mind. But when Carter was born, I was like eating Chick-fil-A and chilling. It was like no big deal. I don't know what that was about, but I was just way chill about it. And then when Nick was born, super chill about it. I guess you get done with the first one. It's like, all right, well, now we just do it again and it's not a big deal.

Or it's not as big a deal as I thought I was going to be or whatever. I cried at Tay's wedding. Like, there are moments for me. And they seem like good, important moments when you're supposed to let it out. but man i would love to i don't know turn on so do it on the reg yeah let's let's give it let's help you figure it out okay you're you're speaking to a lot of things first of all the body will 100% keep score and we'll hold on and will show itself um and when you're younger you don't feel it is badly in your body because you're not as old and as you get older like

it it's so much more obvious um the strain and the stress like that we're holding in And so it is, there's so many versions of what crying can do for you. And one of those is just relieving stress, right? Or relieving the built-up tension or relieving. And people have found other ways to do that besides crying. But crying is definitely an option. I'll have clients who just know they need to cry and cannot. And so we end up working on, you know, when that thing that feels like it's clying out of you shows up, you know, have some privacy.

Or what I've often done is I'm doing telehealth, right? So we turn our cameras off. So they don't have to have me watching them because it's really hard for them to let go because someone is looking at that. Interesting. I didn't realize that was, it makes perfect sense to me during it. Yeah, but I didn't know that. That's wild. And we're all practiced holding it in throughout our lives.

And then when you meet someone, if you guys ever met anyone like this who, they just cry and they don't hold it back. and they cry, it's not, it always makes sense why they're crying. It isn't like crying all the time for a reason or something. It is just easy for them. And they're the most emotionally healthy people I've ever met. I think it's because they just are not holding it in. And they can be safe enough in the world to do that because maybe they were not told they were not allowed.

They've accepted that that's, that they're more teary or something. Like I think there's a lot of self acceptance that comes with that. Because some people, and like MJAT is asking, like, are we all just build different? And there is some of that, right? I am not a crier myself. I love a good cry. It's like once a year and usually for good reasons. Or it's like, you know, maybe a great, I mean, isn't Pixar 100% just to make you cry?

So like you can find things that can make you cry. So that's actually what I would recommend to him and I would recommend to you is on purpose, go to something that my, might tear you up, especially when you're feeling like a lot or you're stressed that will help initiate the cry and just like be by yourself and let yourself cry. And so you can actually practice relieving that, that tension and not fighting it. But sometimes this like training goes really, really, really deep. So I love that MGT is like, I think I'm a normal person. I think I'm okay, you know? And guess what? You are okay. Maybe, maybe 1989's a long time. That's a little too long. It does seem like a long time. A little long. Yeah. Here's the other fear, though, like, all right, let's say, let's say I do what you're

describing. And I go and I just say, you know, let's go over to Disney Plus. Let's fire up up, fire up up. Fire up. Watch the first 10, 15 minutes. Love it. And, um, and get myself to cry. There's a little tiny bit of fear that once I just say, hey, this. we're taking down this wall, Mr. Gorbachev, will I ever be able to stop? Like, all of a sudden, will it now be, oh, my God, this McDonald's commercial is so touching. You know, there's a little bit of fear there. All men out there as your testosterone drops over time and as you become more sentimental and developmentally more mature, you will naturally cry more.

Like, this is coming for you. 47, you're still young enough, son. it's coming. That's why you see old man tear up every two seconds about something and you're like, it's a lifetime of crying coming out. So I would recommend starting now. But Brian, your question's a really good one. I don't know if I've ever had a client not concerned about that exact thing. Really? Okay. Good. I would assume so, right? Like, Eric, if I start crying, will I not be able to stop? It's like Pringles all of a sudden. That and even things like if I cry or if I go to a certain topic that I've been protecting for so long. Sometimes it feels like Pandora's box. I'm going

to open this thing and I'll never be able to shut it. If those walls come down, I'll never recover it. And think about what we're actually saying. What we're saying is, I've had a protection in place my whole life. You're asking me to pull that protection down. There's a reason it's there. And so if it's a big, big reason, you might want to chat with someone about that before ripping all your walls down. But there's also just the mathematical improvements. probability. You cannot cry forever. Sure. Sure. But everyone believes it. I got to run out of body liquid at some point. Yes. Yes. We might be 96% water, but you know, right. There's still a finite number there somewhere. You know, like we're going to show up to Nurtacular and it's going to be like,

oh my God, they're the Fletgers. I cry every time I think about Fletcher. No, okay, but there is something I should probably point out. We're talking about all of y'all without chronic depression or in a major depressive episode or often in major depression people will actually stop crying. That can be an effect. There's also the emotional ability is like you cannot stop. And so you need to talk to someone and get some help. If you cannot stop crying, that is a different story. Then I cry frequently because I see lovely things or I'm sad about a friend or whatever. It's you cannot stop. So our biology can be affected by mood disorders in ways that show up as never

crying ever and being totally numb or being unable to cry. So I just want to throw that out. One thing I really love about when you think about crying is that I just love that someone studied this at some point. It's probably been around a while, but that tears are different depending on why you're crying. So the sort of chemical makeup of a tear, first of all, they're like snowflakes. They're unique under microscopes. They look different. To each person. But you're saying even like the cry I have over a McDonald's commercial is going to be different than the cry I have over pudding.

Absolutely. And the shape and composition of it will be like depending on the temperature of humidity and the reason you're crying. So the reason you're crying. So we know this at least, which I think is so crazy is that emotional tears have a higher protein concentration than tears we get from like irritation or something like our onion chopping an onion yeah yeah different totally different chemical makeup um like so you drink all that protein guys and it's coming out of your eyeballs you got to replace your protein like a GNC factory coming out of my face all of a sudden great excellent yeah that's why it smells like protein no uh no but it is different, which I think is so interesting, like our bodies are crazy, impressive. And when

you think about trying to take a biological process and stop it or training half the population that they are not allowed to do this thing is just crazy when you think about it. So I would love for MJT, you know, his wife sounds like she might be able to do this with him, but talk it through, right? Like, where were these original messages? What was modeled to you? So, Scott, it's interesting because we both had, dad was very, his emotions were available to him. He cried.

I really appreciate that about him. I married someone who can cry. I have boys who can cry. Like, crying is a pastime around here. I'm not, I'm the non-crier. It's a little weird. And I wasn't raised with like, you shouldn't cry. It just doesn't really happen very naturally for me.

But when it does, man, it is the greatest. And sometimes I have to remind myself, like, lean in. This is like a gift. And I have friends that cry, and I'm always a little jealous. Like, they just seem so relieved all the time. So there is biological benefit. There is emotional benefit. It actually helps stabilize your mood.

That's the irony, right? Like, I feel so terrible. And if I just cried, I will feel better. So, Scott, you experienced that. Like, you're a stabilizing of your system. So it's powerful stuff. So we should make a compilation of videos that make people cry. And then you could share those.

Sure. Do you remember any old cotton commercials? Oh my gosh. Every time. The what commercials? Cotton. Yeah. The fabric of life.

Yeah. They used to be. There was some real tear jergers back then, like late 80s, early 90s. I don't remember those. I remember like the, um, was it Coca-Cola commercial or something? Is it the mean Joe green one where he threw them the shirt? It feels like it was similar to that, but that one, that one doesn't make. he cries like here's my sweaty gross stinky shirt enjoy yeah i never quite got why that one hit so many

people the way it did but i guess you're a giant football fan or i just green was your guy i don't know it's weird yeah right um i think i think sometimes there's just judgment that's still exists around this no yeah that you're like i should cry at a wedding or i should cry when a baby's born like right so there's both don't cry and then you should cry at the right time Like, it's so weird. What? None of us are talking about each other's poop that way or you should only, well, you maybe shouldn't burp at the table with people.

But you know what I mean? Like, it is a needed human thing and we have all sorts of judgment around it. I think it's because it's the most visual, obviously. It's coming out of our face. And it is also representing our okayness, right? And so overarching, I would love MJT to have chat with his wife about the history of this for him. What was his model? What was his dad like?

you know, what did he see other men do in his life? Does he ever want to cry and you just can't? You know, like kind of walk through some of it. And then what judgments does he hold? We all have some biases we kind of hang on to, you know. So I don't ever hear women say, I shouldn't cry. What I hear women say is I'm not like, I don't want to be like that girl. So again, girl being an insult, that there's some emotionally like manipulative or

crazy girl, right? So there's that version of judgment among women for crying. So anyway, kind of note all of it and see what's sort of sticky for you and then start, let's practice. What if, you know, because it's coming for you. I'm just going to say that. I'm going to go watch one of those ASPCA commercials. Thanks, Brainbo Bright for making me think about those. The animals in cages looking at the camera like, why doesn't anybody want me? It's like, okay, that's just, that's doing it to me already. So. Because everyone has their thing, right? That's my thing that kind of gets them.

That's the treatment of animals and, yeah, that's all. I wish I was more like Carter. Let me tell you about Carter real quick. All she has to do. She could sit right. She could be right here and I just say to her Futurama episode, Fry's Dog. Right, right. Which may not be a thing Wendy's seen.

But all you have to do is mention Fry's Dog from a certain Futurama episode, a freaking cartoon. Okay. That's mostly a comedy. Yeah. And she will start crying. Like she just, she, she is the thing you're talking about. She is so in touch with her emotional side and she's able to just kind of let that stuff go. And I admire it.

And when she does, and sometimes I will, this is a little manipulative of me, but I'd like to go, oh, here's a, here's a cartoon. She hasn't seen yet. And it's got a real heart tugger at the end. I'm going to, I'm going to watch it with her because it gets me some of that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I love to see. it's weird. Some people see

it as like, well, why you torture and her stuff that's going to make her emotional, but I actually do it because I'm proud of her. I like that about her. It's one of my favorite things about her. Also, as Wendy, Wendy's just telling us, it's important to get that stuff out. So you're making, your process is making Carter the healthiest of all

of us. Yeah. Carter's winning. She is winning. And it fulfills my, my tease quota for the month as well. I get to have a little bit of a tease in there, you know? It's not quite the same as chasing your sister with a cold, soldering iron, but it's close. No, but think about like the like the bonding that comes, right? Like when someone cries with you versus someone stares at you while you're crying, um, is, is tricky. So I'm not a

cryer, right? I don't cry with my clients. You would not believe the level of sad that I've heard in my life. And I think sometimes that makes me less of a crier because I really, like I hear a lot. So it takes a lot to maybe make me very sad. But I have a couple of times where I have cried with clients and they didn't all like it. They were like, I need you to be strong here, friend. At least the one was like, never mind. We'll find someone who our story doesn't break their heart.

And, you know, but it's because for the most part, we need someone to sort of hold us up. And then we also need people who are willing to be with us, right? So let your therapist be the one. He doesn't cry. That's fine. But let your friends and family, like, be there with them. And even if it's not tears coming out of your face, as long as you are still open to the feeling of it. So I am fascinated by this.

I wonder what research has ever been done. But the, and I love MJT's description of it clawing out of your chest. We all know what he's talking about, this feeling of like, I'm trying to hold it in because I'm in public, and it hurts your throat or it hurts your, it's a physical pain to restrain crying, right? Mm-hmm. Is this familiar to you two? Oh, yeah.

No, there's, you have like a headache. Your eyes are like kind of weird. Yeah, it's not great. No. And the like pain in your chest or your throat for me, and that's how it really comes across. And it's such relief to like let it out. So that's everyone's chore.

I usually call it homework, but I'm going to call it a chore because you have to to, you have to do it to get the benefit. You can't just like, what I mean is you got to practice it. So December is a great month for this, right? You're either getting sad for reasons. You're either stressed out for reasons. You are end of the year, the clement for reasons. You are worlds on fire reasons. In fact, we should do this sometime if anyone's open to it. I would love to do like a collective, let's process the trauma of the pandemic. Because the entire world was traumatized and we all just moved on. And some people have not just moved on.

And then some people have had to work hard to move on. And then a lot of us just store it. Just say, you know what? That's over. Good. Awesome. Let's go back to the way life used to be. And every once in a while,

they'll have glimpses of like little PTSD moments from it that I'm like, oh, that's still in there. Anyway, but that idea of like, December is a great month for a lot. lot of things to be conjured for people. It's why I'm very busy in January. Everyone calls in January. Sure. Right. I need to class us all that. Yeah. Exactly. Because you're about to have options show up that will make you want to cry or need to cry. So MJT, I'm going to challenge you to watch some crying, sad things. Watch something that I really, I get teary with hope and like, you know, it's probably what I love about the Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like, I

just freaking love when Gandalf shows up with all the Roherom. You know what I mean? Like it's the best moment all the time. He's all bright up there on the hill coming down with his staff and his horse. And I tear up every time. Right. So it doesn't have to always be sad, but find something that gets your tear ducts working. Let's get some of this protein out the right way, guys.

That's our circle. Here's the plan. If we don't do it now, then we'll do it in June and Ertacular. We'll have a session where we turn the lights off and up on the big screen. will show that episode of Futurama, the Hold the Door episode of Game of Thrones, the ASPCA commercial with Sarah McLaughlin singing, and the Christmas commercial with the Clydesdale's teaching the young new generation of horses to pull the beers for Budweiser. Oh, we're so easily manipulated by things. Okay. And they know it. That's the worst part.

If we get choked up, yeah, if we get if we get choked up, at least with up, it's a piece of, it's artistic expression that is meant to like explore emotion a commercial they know what they're freaking doing to try to sell us something those bastards but we'll turn the lights off so nobody has to see anybody else crying and we'll just do it uh we'll just do it right there yeah yes hey speaking of lord of the rings scott guess where your nephew is flying to tomorrow uh uh uh i assume i assume new zealand yeah i mean he's in australia right now right so his study abroad ends like yesterday and then he went to gizzard wizard concert in australia which is very fun because they're from there you know that scott which is a band that scott learned about

yesterday yep oh yeah just learned i call it lizard gizzard wizard dizzard i never say it right how is that coming up the day after you taught me about that that's insane what funny timing on that yeah i had no idea i'm and scott or sir adam and pete and abe are huge fans and i don't get it i like some of it then i'm like i can't believe these are the same people making 85 kinds of music it's wild anyway so he went to that concert and then he flies up uh new zealand but he is doing like we're watching lord of the rings at home and he is literally going to like eight lord of the ring sites and he's going to the wexa place what is it called wexa is where they make all the oh the yeah the you're talking about uh not wexa weta weta

weta there he's going doing a tour he's gonna tour that? I know. I think Bill went, right? Bill, our Bill Duran went. They totally did. Yes. We're doing it wrong, Scott. We're not going to the right places. Yeah. And you know what he said to me? He's like, oh, I'm sad. You didn't come visit me. I'm like, what? Yeah. I didn't think I was invited. Because I thought it was harsh in your vibe. And he's like, no, you should have come. I'm like, shut up. I wasn't going to come anyway. Still, it's always nice to know you were wanted to go. I know. Anyway, so it's fun. All right. It is great. But I can't wait to hear how that went for him. That went really fast.

I feel like you just got there. It did. But please call me Sunday. I'd love to see everybody when you guys. We will do that for sure. We're going to try to, like it's supposed to, we're trying to get all the cousins. All of it. If we can get everybody there, we're going to try to get everybody there.

That was very smart. Yeah. Yeah, it's good timing. Things aren't, you know, they're not improving. No. They're not rapidly declining, but they're definitely not improving. Anyway, well, we'll do that. In the meantime, MJT, let us know how we answered your question if it feels like we sent you down the right path.

And if anyone at home has anything that want to add to this or questions related to it, keep those questions coming. We love them on the show. Get them to us. Wendy, anything happening at knowbetter you.com? Yes. Oh, I forgot. There's now a tab for coaching if you want to do some one-on-one coaching with Coach Steph in between things. So you can sign up there. And then, yeah, more announcements will be coming.

But I'm a Christmas elf right now. So I'm not really thinking about that. No, you shouldn't have to. That's fantastic. It's windy, everybody. Watch her as she goes. And may your Christmas not feature anyone chasing you with a hot soldering iron or a cold one. All right.

We'll see you later. Yeah, any soldering iron of any temperature, right? Brian, that brings us to the end of the show today. Yes, it does. I want to thank everybody for being awesome. Oh, I don't know why that's in there. Don't read this text because we did that. Yeah, we already did that.

I don't know why that's in there at all. I must copy it over. No, but I will say this. Thank you to everybody who reached out about Xbox 360, 360 controllers. While I was working on, I was like, oh, I have a remote control like that we used for watching Netflix on it. So I bet I can maybe get to some of the settings that way. Turn the damn thing on. It booted up fine.

The first, well, sort of booted up fine. wasn't showing anything on screen. I restarted it and got the red ring of death. So I'm sending the whole kit and caboodle over to Dunaway, including three Connect games and the karaoke game sing with a couple of microphones. He's going to try and fix it and maybe we'll do like an auction or something. Nice. Very nice.

If he's able to fix it. Yeah, that's the trick, right? But he's a nerd. Maybe I should send him just the. xbox first and then if he's able to fix it then i'll send him all the other stuff it might be a good idea because who knows if it'll yeah there's no point in sending him all that stuff if like oh couldn't get it to work now i have your your connect your ring microphones these games which you could probably sell so just send him just send him the console and that 400

pound power supply stupid power supply so weird i feel like i should even send him that unless he gets it working because that's and that's another oh yeah he's got those yeah don't Yeah, don't even bother. Yeah, the console is all he needs is just the, just the console. It's so weird that when you, when you last used it, it was fine and a red ring somehow in its, and it's not being used. It's really weird. I know. Yeah.

I understand it breaking while GPU's overheating or something. Like while you're playing games and stuff on it, for sure. But now all of a sudden it's like, and I think I've, I think I've lived my life. Yeah. I've done. I've seen many Call of Duty reloads. well yeah good luck on that yes uh that's gonna do it for today core uh coming up later today one p m course coverville right after this at twitch dot tv slash coverville so check that over there and

learn about alex chilton yeah i feel like i would learn a thing or two if i went over there you would you would um what else there's film tech this weekend there is a tms friday tomorrow for patrons you'll see that on the patreon uh going live at nine a m and uh i think that's everything else brian let's play a song and get out. Okay. Caled 14-495. There's 1,494 other Caleds before him said, I reach out to the covermaster to play something for my wife's celebration of another

trip around the sun. I reached out a few years ago to play something like one of her favorite songs, Grown-up Christmas List by Amy Grant, and you couldn't find it in your heart to subject others to another tropey Christmas song. Yeah, that sounds like me. I love it. Another song that she really enjoys is call me maybe.

Do you happen to have any good covers of this? If not, I trust your judgment. Love the show though, and she can see why I like it. Chris, aka ITC, Calid 144995. I'm guessing that's probably, well, I was going to say that's a date, but there's no 14th month or 44th day. Yeah, that's a hard one to assess. I will play this for him though.

I can definitely see why you like it. I haven't heard that in a while. Excellent. Yeah. have a lot of great covers of Call Me Maybe by Carly Ray Gypson, but my favorite is this one right here, and it's only partially a cover of Call Me Maybe. You'll love all the rest of this, especially if you like bands that do live mashups, and especially if you happen to like that new Dochey song, Anxiety, you'll probably like this as well. This is Pomplamose, and

cover of call me maybe and um what was that song goatea and kimbra did uh somebody that i used to know that's the one yeah that's the one it's a mashup of those two performed as a song by a band as opposed to like booty mashups just mixing stuff up here is poplamos awesome real quick just my favorite use of this so call me maybe hang out here it is so call me maybe all right you and this is crazy so call me maybe all right uh thanks everybody for listening here's that song we will see you tomorrow i threw a wish in the well don't ask me i'll never tell i look to you as a bell and now you're in my way trade my soul for wish pennies and dimes for kiss i wasn't looking for this but now you're in my way

But you didn't have to cut me off Make out like it never happened If we were nothing And I don't even need your love But you treat me like a stranger And I feel so rough No you didn't have to stood so low Have your friends collect your records

And you'll change your number I guess that I don't need that though Now you're just somebody that I used to know somebody you took your time with the call I took no time with the ball you gave me nothing at all but still you're in my way

a bag, borrow and steel at first sight and it's real I didn't know I would feel but you're in my way But you didn't have to cut me off make out like it never I can't know if we were nothing and I don't even need your love

but you treat me like a stranger and I feel so rough No, you didn't have to stood so long Have your friends go like to record and change your number I guess that I don't need that though Now you're just somebody that I used to know Somebody

Somebody that I don't know Bye Before you came into my life I missed you so bad I missed you so bad I missed you so so bad Before you came into my life

I missed you so bad I missed you so bad I missed you so so bad Oh you didn't have to stoop so Have your friends collect your records and then change your number I guess that I don't need that though Now you're just somebody that I used to know

But you didn't have to cut me off Make out like it never happened. We were nothing And I don't even need your love But you treat me like a stranger and I feel so rough Now you didn't have to stoop so long Have your friends go like to record Change your number I guess that I don't need that no

Now you're just somebody that I used to know Somebody Somebody that I'm going to know That I'm going to know This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes. Get more at FrogPants.com. I ain't about to face a rap for murder.