The Morning Stream - TMS 2933: Mom Mothma

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Luke and Leia Butthole. The Littlest Mermaid. Mrs. Mad Max. Scott and Brian are the new Statler And Waldorf. Out Of Mothers. Hot and Boring and Slow. I'll do 9 holes if it is the right group. Taking Another McCllunky. Ellen DeGeneres Ripley. Half Bloated Corpse of a Cow on the Street. Banana-rama-ding-dong. Sideways fishing. Scott loves to Bait. Planning for the Unplannable. There's always a bigger AI fish with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Littlest Mermaid. Mrs. Mad Max? Scott and Brian are the new Statler and Waldorf. Out of mothers. Hot and boring and slow. I'll do nine holes if it's the right group. Taking another McClunky. Ellen DeGeneres-Ripley.

Half-blooded corpse of a cow on the street. Banana ramadding dong. Sideways fishing. Scott loves to bait. Planning for the unplantable. There's always a bigger. i fish with tom and more on this episode of the morning stream it's a weapon it's really powerful especially against living things i'm gonna head down to the corn dog shack and watch the girlies

make lemon aid the morning stream don't eat the morning stream don't eat it's pluto Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Wednesday, December 10th, 2025. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Good day to you. Happy Wednesday.

Happy middle of the week. You know what? If there's a month not to screw up the year, it's December of the end of the year you're in. You know what I'm saying? Like up in May, I could go. You've had 11 months of practice to get the right year. Yeah, in like May or April or whatever, I could have said 20, 24 by accident, nobody would

need to think about it. Sure, sure. Because it's like, yeah, of course you're used to its habit, whatever. But 2020, the end of 2025, getting that wrong. Here's the deal. I would argue that it's, there's a likelihood, depending on what you do and how much time you spend working on stuff for next month, you have a tendency, a potential tendency to say 2026. Yeah. Oh, yeah. in December, 2025. Like, I, there have been times that I've said, all right, well, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's like, oh, no, it's 2025. Next month, next year is, uh, 2020. Yeah, I had some, I finished a drawing the other day and I almost signed it with next year's year, which would have been really weird.

So I am preparing for it. All the daily music headlines are, are this album slated to come out 226. This person's world tour slated to start in 2026. So that's all, you know, it's, it's fresh in my head. That's true. that's how it's that way for us with core as well it's like all the releases everything that we talk about is now pushed the next year sure nobody's talking about a big release on the 22nd of december no right i don't think anyway um well um well um it's good to see you all hope you're all

well yeah i uh i finished the video game dispatch last night oh video game okay i was thinking it was going to be a um a movie or tv show or something no it sounds like one and actually is may as well be a show. It's so good that it's essentially like the best TV show I've seen this year. Yeah. But it's in video game forums. It's the one I recommended to you a few episodes ago. I think you would... It's like cut scenes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would eat this. You would eat this up, Brian. You'd love this. It's on my list. Basically, it's

I need to get some time to work on Clear Obscura. And then once that is done, then I'm moving to dispatch. It's my next thing. Yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna, I just am beside myself with the, the characters and story. I need it to continue. I hope it turns into, at the very least, a sequel, it should. It was very successful. But it's hard for me to, it's in my top three of the year, like, without any question. Wow. It's arguing with first place, to be honest. That's how, that's how good this game was. So dispatch, clear, obscure, what would be your, what would be your other? I didn't see that episode of core you guys did recently where you gave your well i did but i didn't uh watch all the way

through to see what the the full lists yeah and we've got we're gonna do that was some of that's kind of preliminary like we're not totally done with our list yet but i think if i had to pick a third i guess i haven't done that yet i would probably go um it's a toss up between probably donkey con and blueprints probably oh blueprints so good and you're talking donkey con switch to banana ram a ram game i never remembered but yeah banana wait but but i can't remember what they call it it's a cruel summer when we can't remember donkey conanza bonanza that's right that's spelled you know with extra manna with a z in it yes yeah um probably that would be what i'd pick there's a lot of the really great games this year

that i just didn't get enough time in like i didn't get any not near enough time in kingdom come too, which is, by all accounts, as good as any other game this year. There's a few others, but I also have weird categories like my Chor Core game of the year right now is a power wash simulator two because you clean shit with it. It's fun. I like it. I know. You love these Chor car games.

The ones you've recommended that I've tried, I like, so I get it. I totally get it. There's something about the gamifying of mundane tasks that I really get into. It's hard to explain. Right. But anyway, if Kim were to say, hey, could you go out and wash the car? You'd be like, can I just do it on the simulator, please? It's like golf. I don't like playing real golf. I find it hot and boring and slow. But I love video game golf. So it's the same. It's the same thing. I think I've talked on this story about how Peter Arpeg and I got a copy of PGA Tour golf that we played on the Mac. Like we, you know, this was back in the days when I was at the newspaper software company. And we were on a land and we both had copies. a PGA tour golf and you could play two-player golf with each of you on your own machines, you know, taking turns doing your hits, if I remember correctly. And we thought, you know,

this looks easy. Let's go across the street to the golf course and learn to play golf. And we spend an entire like multiple summers because we had a golf course right across the street from the office. And so we could go there at five. And, and, um, we could go there, uh, at five. And, There was a deal if you went after 5 p.m., you got your greens fees for 50%, and no carts, though. I think you'd have to still pay extra for a cart, so we still walked it. But we paid like $12 each or $8 each to be able to play 18 holes. And we thought, oh, it would just be so easy because we figured out when to swing and get it to hit the ball right when the little marker is right in the middle of that little swing. that it does back and forth.

So, of course, we'll be good at golf. Oh, yeah. Because we've figured out, like, well, you gauge it based on, you know, this, and this has to be a seven iron, but this you're going to use your driver for. Sure. Yeah, we sucked. But we got out there and did it. And, you know, I still have the golf clubs to prove it.

That's why I have beef with, like, people who say call of duty or doom or whatever is a training ground for violent kids or whatever. Right. And I always think, have you really tried, yeah, have you really tried to fire an M4 from your shoulder? Do you know what that's like? It's not what you think it is. But, yeah, I'm definitely, there's one, there's one thing in games is kind of mundane that I would rather do in person, and that's fishing. I don't mind fishing in games if it's handled, right?

I don't like to kind of wait forever for random pulls in, wow. Or wait for the ripples to appear or, yeah, it just becomes very, very boring. If there's a really good reason to do it because your character and an MMO needs it or something, fine. But I'd rather fish. That sideways fishing game with the guy's name in it, Fisherman Sam

or something like that. What am I thinking of? It was a game where you catch fish and then you sell the fish to buy lures and better... Oh, the VR game. What was that called? Was that VR? Bate. No, I thought it was a side... No, no, bait is good. I love bait. But no, there was a side-scroller a side-scroller

Steam game, not side-scroller, but you were fishing with a side-view. Was it the one with you build up your ship over time and get like new... Yes. Is dredge? Is that it? Oh, Dave the... Oh, maybe it was Dave the diver. It could be.

Maybe Dave the diver. Did Dave the diver do fishing as well? Did he just dive? Well, he dived and then fished. He didn't fish off the boat. He fished in the water, but it's kind of the same principle. And he'd sell the fish to get better bait and better lures and stuff like that yeah and then you'd go yeah dredge was 3d keeps talking about yeah then i'm thinking then i think

i'm thinking about dave the diver then dredge is also very good for those out there wondering if you should get because they they they make fishing into something wholly different there's like a whole supernatural element to dredge and oh yeah then it's definitely dredge isn't what i was thinking of i think it's dave the diver because i remember there was the name of the dude and the title of the game but it's it's pixely you may you may you may You made me think, though, yeah, very pixely, Dave the Diver. Yeah. You made me think of that, that one, the bait game.

I loved bait. Yeah, bait was great. Partly because it recreated what I like about actual fishing. It felt like I was in the space and, you know, and it was still gamified, so still fun. But making that in VR was really cool, I thought. And half of, maybe even more than half, but half of the experience of fishing isn't the actual putting, A worm on the hook, throwing it in the water. It is the sitting there, relaxing, being there with your own thoughts, not having, not having something else to do and distract you and keep your mind up.

You were just basically at the lake, at the, off the pier, whatever you were doing, wherever you were doing it. Yeah. Just enjoying the sounds of nature and. Yeah, I love that. Drinking a, drinking an, uh, uh, apple, angry orchard cider with your friend or a crystal Pepsi, if maybe, if you will. And we mean no offense to actual golfers. I'm just saying we're playing video game golf. There's two things that play here.

Playing video game golf does not make me better at real golf. Right, right. And real golf is hot and boring for me. Sure. For me. I don't want to blanket everybody who loves golf out there. Kind of, you know, I'll do nine holes with a cart if I'm with the right group. Because, again, it's less about the actual hitting of the balls than it is about the

the hanging out with a with a bunch of friends playing golf. But yeah, no, after nine holes, I'm really bored with it and I just want it to be over. Yeah, yeah. That's how I am. And doing the idea of doing 18, freaking what are we talking about for? Yeah, exactly. Because let me tell you, nine holes, there's at least nine times that I'm going to be walking around outside, off the greens, off the rough, maybe close to the equestrian trail. half a block away looking for my ball and holding up the game.

Yep, yep, I'm doing, not McGuffins, what are they called? Mulligans, doing lots of mulligans, man. That's what I, I'm the best at. McClunkies, is what they're, yes. I need to take another McClunky. I don't know where my ball went. Do a McClunky. That's awesome.

All right, guys, you know what time it is? It's this time right here. That music can only mean one thing. It's time for a game show. And in that game show, it will feature one Brian Dunaway. Hello, Brian. Oh, hi, it's gotten, Brian. Hey, man.

Hey, man. What are you doing, man? Hey, man, just trying to survive. You know, it's only like a couple weeks away from the holiday holiday. And so just trying to every day, it's like, I know I'm forgetting something. Yeah. Oh, what is it? It's kind of chaos around here.

Holiday holiday. I don't like how much stuff is being thrown at me right now. There's so much stuff. It's like, here's three parties. you didn't I wasn't told about okay I guess I'm going to those well that is going to screw up the plans I had for this other thing so let's see if we can push that and it's just like constant changes of scheduling I hate that yeah that's what I've been kind of dealing with like this past week it's like okay got my normal stuff do do do do and then Friday it's like oh we got this this

and this we've been invited to this okay I forgot it's the holidays I cannot plan on anything other than the unplannable yeah you can only plan on the unplannable and jeez I don't get stressed in stress eat when all this great food is around me either yeah yeah i know right it's a problem yummy saying it's a problem oh and then we uh somehow because we got a scream and deal on it for some reason we're having our countertops refinished next week no wow okay yeah that means a a group of noisy people hammering and sawing and uh yeah looking at it all wrong ibbett Scott is

providing some workers the ability to buy Christmas Oh is that what it is? Look at that I think these guys do fine I think they're What a wonderful

silver lining you've put on that Look it's a great It's just great Go get me a goose In the window All right Ibitt Sure

Goose in the window Kim's had Kim is supposed She was you in the window You should goose me in the window It's my favorite thing to say to a girl Goose me in the window baby

Yeah Hey, let's play a game. Let's do this thing. Brian, you probably have all the info. So you should explain it to us. Oh, let me see if I can find it. Just here, it's just been handed to me. Oh, awesome.

Great. Yeah. All right. Oh, no. Did I just spoil the whole film set for we work? It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tad pool on some nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian have to predict the answer that they gave us.

It is that a job to see how many of those answers they can guess. At the end of the game, we're going to add up all the points. And the winner will actually be winning prizes for. for their listener contestant and contestants will be pulled from our supporters on Patreon at patreon.com slash TMS. Sweet.

Go support us today. Scott, you are playing for Stephanie Norton, aka Stephanie in a pets. Oh, we love Stephanie. I'm happy to play for her. Okay. Technically, you're playing for Kyle because Stephanie won't play the games.

She will give them to Kyle. I forgot about that. She's not a gamer. But you know what? I will watch the littleest mermaid or some shit after just to celebrate. Terrific. Yes, please do. Brian, you are playing, what's that?

All right. Did you say littlest mermaid? That's the wrong. It's not right. It's the little mermaids. Is it even the? Hold on. Is it even the Little mermaid? It is the Little mermaid. It is the Little mermaid. Okay. It's starting to sound wrong no matter what we say. It's called Pretty Little Lying Mermaids.

There you go. Nailed it. Little mermaid fires everywhere. Perfect. Brian, you're playing for SunBun. Oh, we love SunBun. We got two legends. Yeah. Love it.

Love it. All right. Let's get to it. Put your hands upon. Okay. All right. Okay. There it is.

Who keeps reloading. Who keeps reloading? Me? Because if it doesn't, if it doesn't work there. Okay. Put your hands on your buzzers and give me your best answer to this. Who is your favorite mom? from sci-fi TV or movies.

Scott. Oh, the alien queen. Perfect. Show me the alien queen. Get away from her, you bitch. No way. Number five. Four answers will beat it, Brian. How about Beverly Crusher?

Show me Beverly Crusher. Oh, no. Oh, shit. Nice job, dude. Nice. Well done. Holy crap. Yes.

now we we actually had a who's your favorite tv mom question in this same batch of tadpully feuds it's funny because they ended up right next to each other in the survey so i like did that one and then i'm like i'm waiting six months before i do who's your favorite mom from sci-fi tv or movies so gotcha okay that was smart i think yes otherwise it would be kind of silly doing one right after the other uh all right brian you've got control of the board but you've only got one point one measly sad little point is by the way is this the clip oh no no that's not it that's not her oh no it's not her at all oh no trying to find i can't find it anyway sorry done away all right it's your turn to do good well i'm gonna go because she's been i've been watching on uh it's not

it's not a spoiler is it no everybody knew that knows she's on there right i mean okay i'm going with sarah connor because she's been in the netflix and she's been in the The stranger thinks, can I say that? The actress or the character, Sarah Connor. No, no, the actress, of course. Oh, man, that's lots of implications if she was. You really had the psyched to watch Sarah Connor. Jeez, man, come on.

That's funny. Finn Wolfhardt is really John Connor. I've got to go back in time and save him. Oh, no, I don't want to save him. It's fine. Show me Sarah Connor. Yep. Damn it.

And poo on whoever came up with the name for a TV show called Sarah Conner, Cronica. Sarah Connor. It's horrible. It is. And the show was a great show. It was fantastic. It was really good.

I loved it. I was way into it. And then they canceled it. But I'm like, you shouldn't have called it that. Call it something else. No, exactly. Sarah Croner, chronic, chronic, or just say Terminator colon, Sarah Connor. Or something like that.

Or just Sarah Connor. Just call it that. Exactly. Yes. name yes anyway done away agreed you're still on a roll here buddy seven answers left on board brian and one button with sci-fi i mean i hate just what time is it 1119 you got lots of time you're not gonna pull the timer out yet come on you keep pushing keep pushing me man keep keep pushing her brother all right so i have been watching netflix stranger thing season five and

it still it still fits in because i think she's the baddest ass mom of all when on her rider Uh, mama, mama buyers. Mama buyers, sure. Sure. Mamba buyers. Feels like it's a shana, nah, like, you know, we should be singing. It's part of a shahna-na-na-na song. Mama-briers.

Mama-mab buyers. All right, show me mama-buyers. Oh, man. Let's just get that out of the way. Um, now, even though this question was asked, Joyce, by the way, is her first name. Even though this question was asked long before the new season of Stranger Things came out, this, this, this, this, this, the survey was from spring of this year. She's always good.

Yeah. So Sarah Connor just is in general was a good mom. Okay. Yeah. She in general was a good mom. But Joyce Byers was 15 on the list. It was not like she was way down. She was pretty close to the top.

People love her her wackiness and her ability to Christmas decorate year round. She's wacky. She is wacky. Wacky is good. I like it. All right. So I've got to I got to put my. my uh my heart in this here yes you do please put your heart into uh science fiction mothers

yes and that space no mother mother just tv and movies tv and movies right so no oh tv m oh you know i didn't yes i did say a tv because it's kind of okay i'm trying to think how cheeky the chat room is going to be or the tadpool so i'm just going to try it and say cheeky um let's say mother the ship from Alien. Sure. I like that. Mother. Mother.

Sure. Show me, Mother. Shit. Also, very high. 21. Six people said, mother the ship from alien.

Ship AI stuff. Yeah. Really liked it. And did you end up seen in Predator Badlands or no? I can't remember if you saw it. Yeah, I saw it. You did see it. I saw it when it first came out.

I like their featureistic version of her. It's cool. Anyway, it's not a spoiler. The Wainland Utani's all over that movie. It's in the trailers. There's no surprise there. All right, back over to Bride Guy. What you get, Brad Guy?

Since Scott can't think of anything other than Alien, I want to cut his feet. I'm not cut his feet and go ahead and say Ellen Ripley, because she did get Pregors because they wouldn't eat her num, num, but she didn't really get to prove any. anything about being a mom? But don't forget, there was also a deleted scene from aliens where where she says goodbye to her daughter or something or

there's something. Oh, there's a cut scene, yeah. A cut scene. I don't know why you said it like that. Paul Reiser talks to her about her daughter. What do you say? When you say a cut seam, what do you say? I just said, what do I say? I don't say it like a cut scene.

You did say it with a lot of path All right. You say sabotage, I say sabotage. All right. Show me Ellen DeGeneres Ripley. Oh, nice. Oh, man. Is that her bill?

Number three. Cut his feet. Cut his legs, are you thing? Now what you got? Frick. Brian, taking the lead, but only by one point. Scott's just got one, but his one is still just barely less than it's a beefy. You have.

The beefy one. But nobody's touched anything on the right side. Come on, guys. Oh. It needs a little bit on the right side. I was trying to think if it was I want to say Mad Max's wife was a mom

and I want to take that from Scott too even though it's not right. Mrs. Max from the first. Yes. Mad Max. Miss Max. Cool. All right. Cool. You all with that? Okay. All right. Show me Mrs. Mad Max.

sometimes it's just better to take the timer Brian there are many so here's the problem with bad max though there are many mothers there are many mothers yeah but this one is mine yeah um they go they're literally trying to go to the land of the many mothers um i mean technically mad max has a mother too we don't see her but she but he has a yeah must have one um okay well i'm gonna steer clear of that because i'm nervous about what people wouldn't do and so i'm gonna say sure we don't have enough tv on here think. So I'm going to try to dig. I'll bet that's how we pass. The question's on their right hand side. Let's see. Let's go with, um, uh, uh, what's a big sci-fi thing. Oh, shit.

Uh, the lady for, the mom, the mom from, shut up at the mom from, uh, lost in space, lost in space mom. Oh, she's great. What's her name though? Don't check to know her name. No, you don't. Do you? What? I've been working way too hard. I knew, well, I know, I can just say mom from sci-five film easily. Can you give me a last name, Scott? Robinson. Oh, there you go. That's good.

This is Robinson. God bless you, please. That was the song, right? We had a Ripley song and then we had. That's right. Show me, uh, Maureen Robinson from Lost in Space. Yeah. Oh, my God.

That's some good points, Jorgeson. Played very well by both June Lockhart and then who was at Molly Parker in the 2018. Molly Parker is underrated. She's so. absolutely is she 100% is yes love her uh all right what am i missing and uh i always want to say mon mothra was a was a mom that's just because her names art horses this week uh actually let's let's try that though and say uh uh natalie portman's character uh pad may don't help him princess padmay i'm sorry well he would have got there i know i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm

She had two very important children, so. She did. Who were those children, Scott? Luke and Leah, butthole. Oh, look and lay a butthole. That's not right. Their last name is Skywalker. Oh, I see.

A Skywalk her. Skywaker. Skywaker. Show me Padme, Amadala. Yeah. Yeah. Number eight. This is, this is racking up 22 points for Scott so far with six.

I shouldn't have taken, I should have let him linger with those other stupid ones from alien, thank it. Did you have to let him linger? Yeah, I had to. What about, I wonder if any comic book stuff made it in here, because they're sci-fi technically. Oh, yeah, Captain America's mom. She's sweet.

Actually, I really like Peter Quill. She's not a mom, though. Well, I mean, she brazed him. I'm going to go with Pat, I said Padme again. Brian's messing me up. Hold on. Who was it going to say? Oh, Peter.

Timer. Mrs. Quill, Peter Quill's mom. All right. Peter Quill's mom, sure, from Guardians of the Galaxy. He gives him his Walkman and a cassette tape that he listens to all throughout the galaxy. Yeah. Two volumes, I think, of great music. Yeah.

Uh, show me Peter Quill's mom, Mrs. Quill. Uh, there's a stretch. I thought maybe. I don't even think that made the, I don't even think that made the list. no no i'm not seeing done a way you should say whistler from um that's perfect from blade yeah yeah um perfect i was actually thinking either mom because that's hilarious

futurama oh oh or or princess lea but then she did birth kailorin so i don't know it's kind of but you know yeah that doesn't make her a bad mom no it's not her fault doesn't it no if your kids turn out to be shits it's not always the parents fault. I mean maybe people like Tyler Wren. He fell in with a bad crowd. And he came back

around. He came back around. Give me to mom from Futurama. All right. That's a good pick. Mom from Mom Corp. Sure. Show me Mom. Yeah. Yeah. Number seven, some good points. It's starting to be a game here. We got 13 for Brian, 22

for Scott. Her and her kids are underrated moments in that show. Yes, they are. They're so. The two brothers, yes. Love it. Three, I think, but yeah. Two, three. How many kids are there?

Oh, yeah, the dumb one. Yeah, it is three. Because one time they did the whole see-no-evil, say-no-evil, hear-not-eval thing. Oh, sure. That always sticks out in my head. All right, done away, you bastard, you're still on. All right. You're still on.

Yes. Three answers left on the board. I'm going to say, Princess Leia. Okay. all right I think that's the appropriate that goes with

Padme Amadala but holes this is what that goes with right there show me Princess Leia Organa oh yeah gonna be close

it is close Brian gets answer number six for 19 points to Scott's 22 in a three point game I kind of given up here for the field goal

or are you gonna are you gonna yeah where you're gonna oh I don't know oh man i'm trying i'm like i'm pulling blanks hair i'm pulling because i was trying to think like oh i know because i was thinking the mother from that wolves movie well i mean the tv show the HBO thing sure i was like no what's better is mother a drags but it's not sci-fi oh but the tadpool no yeah that's a that's a good that's a good one yeah right i i understand

your pain on that but i would probably choose it but i'm not trying to trying to tell you what to do you just want me to lose well that's true too but how about how about just let's go something simple it's kind of sci-fi but it's more super eh this is incredible okay all right oh i like that helen uh par helen par helen parr speaking of golf all right miss is incredible that's right she's a par ten that's show me elastic girl oh number four brian takes the lead by one point oh my god there is one answer left on the board. It is number 10. Oh, my God.

Okay, if you get 10, I'm just, I retire from. Oh, man, but I'm out of mothers. You're out of mothers. How about one strike? How about Space Lord, Mother, Mother for Monster Magnet? I'm sure.

I don't know what that is. You don't know. Yeah. Those are totally words. They're absolutely words. There's no question about that. How about Danzig mom? She's pretty cool. Danzig?

Did you say Danzig's mom? Danzig? Danzig, mom? Heavy metal. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's a song. Yeah.

Sure. Okay. Stalfer time. I love it. Tim Tim timer started. Uh-oh. Timers going. Go.

Um, um, um, uh, it's smurf it. Okay. I'm going to die. yeah i'm dry i'm dry just like uh oh my gosh just like smurfette that that about killed me holy shit have your pick of several men none of whom know how how to please you uh all right scott one answer left on the board yours trailing by one point you need this okay the only only one i got left i'm trying to get prominent wives in science fiction this is going to not If this is it, I'll be thrilled.

But I'm going to say the, I don't know her first name, though, but it's George Jetson's wife, so Mrs. Jetson. Oh, me. Oh, my gosh. Can't you sing? Can't you sing through the line credits? His boy, Elroy.

Do you marry to his daughter? Is it Judy? No, Judy's the daughter. It's George Jetson. Judy. Jane. Oh, Jane, his wife. He got there.

He got there. Show me Jane, his wife. Oh, I got it. Nope. No points. But it, uh, so think, think, uh, slightly more popular than Jane, but slightly less popular than Maureen Robinson from Loston's face. Oh my gosh, dude. Uh, I don't know. I'm out.

Timper's play. Ren and Snippy had a mom. Uh, shit. Queen Calisi of the dragon people. Oh, there you go. Good choice, yes. A good choice. Yeah.

Uh, no. That was on their Deneres Targaryen Mother of Dragons was number 28 on the list. Nope. Number 10, I'm surprised you didn't go here

because you did go Beverly Crusher the other big mom from the Star Trek universe. Oh, Troy. I almost thought about Troy. Yeah, I love her. Lot of Troids. Yeah.

She, for some reason that I was thinking nobody else had kids on their Picard famously hated kids Right It was like There's no other family In Star Trek

But you're right How much you didn't want Wesley on the bridge Wesley Exactly He's just a child Angel Barrett Let's really quickly run through a couple more of these Just because they're great

Molly Weasley Lady Jessica from Dune Beth Smith from Rick and Morty Including Robot Beth and Future Beth Or Space Beth Yeah Lorraine McFly Martha Kent, Aunt Beru, who's motherly, even though she wasn't a mother.

Amanda Grayson, Spock's mom, Joyce Summers Buffy's mom. Aunt May. Oh, that's run a writer twice for Spock's mom, right? Oh, it is. Yeah, she's a popular mom. Amy Pond, from the Doctor who reverse. Oh, Godzilla, as we learn from the, from the, from the, from the 90s. Yeah.

Yep. Jackie Tyler, Janet Van Dine, Wasp's mom, Mortisha Adams. I guess she was also the Wasp. Queen Ramanda, the Mandalorian, what? Mom Mothra. A couple people did actually put Mom. Did they? That's great.

That's great. I feel less stupid now. Thank you for that, everybody. I love how somebody just put Barbarian. B, B, B. B. Caitlin Stark, Corbin, Dallas's mother from the Fifth Element,

Dexter's mom. Ellen Griswold, not really sci-fi, but okay. Jane Rogan from the last Starfighter. Oh, that's good. Keiko O'Brien. Let's see.

Marky Post from Buck Rogers. I don't think Marky Post was not Aaron Gray. Yeah, that's not. Aaron Gray and Marky Post. That was wings. Mom and Dad saved the world. The mom from Poultergeist.

Mother Brain. Mother from raised by wolves is the one you were thinking of, Brian. That's it. Ah, that's it. I love that show. Brimmer's mom from Red Dwarf, Sally Jupiter from Watchman, Shmi, Skywalker, Stifler's mom, that one mom that turns into a robot, somebody said, and finally, your mom.

Your mom. Your man. You knew that was going to be on there. Well, that's great. I think that's awesome that Brian won, even though it was, I mean, that was a hell of a fight. That was close. One point difference here at the end, one point. One of the closest, I mean, the closest one we've ever had, we've had them a few times.

means congratulations to sun bun you're getting a copy of the dark side detective a fumble in the dark and grime deluxe edition crime's real good yeah but stephanie yeah kyle is going to be getting a copy of revelations two i'm sorry yes revelations two oh sorry resident evil revelations two deluxe edition nice all of these courtesy of keith hicks thank you keith hicks you're great uh wonder if he's married to braxton hicks just kidding probably yes Hey, let's tell everybody what we're doing tonight. Tonight on Play Retro at 4 p.m. Mountain Time. We're going to be talking about Star Wars Dark Forces.

Speaking of a Star Wars thing. If you remember this. I just learned this this week. It's not a Doom clone. I thought it was. Nope, not at all. It was a thing all of its own. It used a very different engine.

Used an in-house engine there, LucasArts. Beautiful, beautiful game. Even today, I think that game looks good. It's where you first see the Dark Trooper, isn't it? That's right. It made it into the real lore. That's right. It came from the game. I forgot about that. That's a little like a bounty hunter guy getting taken from the cartoon and made...

Right. Right. BobaFet. BobaFitt. Anyway, that's tonight, 4 p.m. Dunaway. I can't wait to talk about this with you. Stoked. Are you excited? I hope so. I am so excited. I'm about to dark force my pants. Gross. Bye. All right. Well done. That was awesome. Super fun. Now, everybody. Sit back, relax, and enjoy as we do this. Isn't technology wonderful? It can be if your friend Tom Merritt shows up and spreads his technology around like manure in a fresh field.

Oh, look at that. Technology. I like that. Technology. Hey, that's not bad for a book or something. Yeah. I don't know if Tom's in the mood for doing that just yet. Yeah. Do another book, Tom. We call it technology. Yeah. Can you get in on that? How do you feel about that? Yeah, I can just make the other book in a different order and just call it that. Sure. Yeah. That's what people do these days. A piece of cake. Yeah. It's like how we do film sack movies sometimes. Yeah, it's just a different chapter order. Ooh, new book. I like it. You're here. That's great because we love this.

It's a Wednesday tradition here on the show where Tom comes on in and we answer your hard tech questions. And we got one today that you said to me that you don't love these kinds of questions, not because they aren't good questions, but because why, actually. Why do you not like to? I just find them hard to answer. Sure. it's it's it's it's it's like uh these questions the question that we're going to answer today are kind of like the questions of like uh what stories do you think didn't make it into d tns that should have and i'm like none or i would have put them in that's a really good point um so it's one

of those that and then i feel like a lot of these questions this kind of question this sort of thing rolls in toward the end of a of a year as you're about to launch a new year as if somehow the January demarcation is this like new tech plan ahead of that, you know? Time to take stock and look forward to the new year. I get it. Kind of weird how that goes. But I'll go ahead and read this. This is from listener Stratus 88. I think I've played Overwatch with this guy. He says, hi guys. One for Tom. What's one tech trend from this year, 2025, that you think will actually matter in five years versus just being noise? Because I think I know where he's coming from. It's like.

Sometimes we hear stuff and then poof, it's nothing five years from now. Yeah. And the reason I say these are hard for me to answer is I tend to approach every episode of Daily Tech News show as like, let me make sure I don't give you noise. Right. And so I'm like, well, that's what I talk about every single day as far, at least, you know, I like to flatter myself that I'm trying to do that. So it's tough for me to be like, you know, oh, these are the things we've been talking about that don't matter. And these are the things that do matter, especially because predicting the future is a fool's errand. you will you will it's fun to do and that's why we do the predictions results show because it's always so much more fun to look back at how crazily wrong we were and you know celebrate the few people who are like oh yeah you nailed that one well done because that's almost impossible sure so so going five years from now I'm like I don't really know um I in thinking about how to answer this I was tempted to say the augmented reality glasses Google just announced project with XREL will be coming next year. I've been calling 2026 the year of AR glasses because even

though meta already has, and when I say AR glasses, by the way, I mean everything from the meta ray bands on up to Applevision Pro, right? And everything in between. We're going to get a ton of announcements of new products of that in 2026. However, I don't think that is the product that's going to take off in 2026. And I don't necessarily think it fits his question because there hasn't been that much buzz around it. And when I came down to it, I'm like, you know what, it's large language models. In five years, we're going to know what large language models are good at. We are going to be using them for things and we're going to be like, oh, yeah, these really matter for these things. And it won't matter what people promised they could do today, which is in many

cases over-promising, it won't matter what people think is bad about them because people are exaggerating what they can't do and their ill effects and how over-hyped they are. I think in five years, probably, we'll look at LLMs like we look at a web browser and just be like, oh, yeah, the web. That's pretty useful thing. Because if you think back, think if you've been alive that long, to the mid-90s, the graphical web. I had an internet account without the web. because I thought it was too much of a hyped up thing with graphical interface, who needs it, right? I can use the links browser if I need to.

That's who I was in my 20s. And I feel like a lot of people feel that way about LLMs now. Like, you know what, that's just a bunch of hype. That's a bunch of companies trying to sell you something. And eventually we figured out, oh, no, the web is an incredibly useful thing. In fact, when we think of the Internet now,

we basically think of the web. I'm not sure we'll go that far with LLMs, I think in five years, we'll look at LLMs and go, oh, yeah, that's what they're good for. This is what they're not good for, you know, and this is what they're good for. Kind of will depend on how they're implemented in people's daily routines. Because like you said, the graphical web, there was a point there where you were on, you know, text heavy message boards and, you know, other things that weren't part of that. And then we witnessed the rolling in of all that. Like it just made sense that now these forums have headers and images and stuff.

And, you know, and that was just going to evolve and it still does that today. I think that this is going to be a similar thing where at first it's going to seem like a separate thing, like a part thing. And for a while there it really was because a lot of these LLMs didn't do web search wasn't part of their functionality. And now it is pretty much across the board. That's a giant change in a very interesting direction because now you're digging into people's usual day. and use cases, right? You're saying, well, you're already on the web and you're in there looking for stuff anyway.

What if I gave you better research results and a better description and a blah, blah, answer your question faster than you digging for 16 hours on a site that may or may not be favoring results for ad reasons or a million other things that are part of our modern day search engine.

And yes, the people that are incorrect anyway. I know. Everyone's always got an issue with stuff. Wikipedia got raked over the coals forever. I think unfairly in a lot of ways. You can't find anything on the web, and the sites are really boring. They're mostly text, and it's a bunch of under construction gifts. Like, what's it good for?

Yeah, exactly what we were saying back then. What's a web ring? Oh, that's to tie everybody together. Why does everybody need a website? Yeah. And we're not, I don't think this is like just, you know, so we can say this to people. I don't think what we're saying. I don't think I don't want to speak for Tom, so tell me if I'm wrong.

But I don't think we're saying, we need to champion it because it's inevitable. we've seen this before and now we're going to see it again. Definitely. Definitely not. No, I'm just saying from a casual use perspective, I get, I just, it's just, this is just true, okay? So you can hate on it all you want, but the truth is I get better results when I use an LLM to search

for what I'm looking for. Almost 100% of the time. Really? Yeah, probably 99% of the time I get there quicker, I get better instructions, more accurate instructions, which is crazy because LLMs are, you know, known to hallucinate and screw up. So I think this points to what you're saying. In five years, we'll know what they're good at,

and we will have settled into using them for what they're good at, just like the web. The web is not good at cleaning your car for you. But there was a time where everybody claimed that the internet was going to solve every problem like that. And then we crashed and we changed our, you know, we settled into what it was going to be. Soon you'll do everything on the web.

It's like, well, you do a lot of things on there. But yeah, yeah, if I can, make one of my historical analogies that always proved to just be close enough to get the point across but not entirely accurate. I feel like when Chad GPT launched three years ago, that was HTTP. Yeah. And now we've just gotten to the point where we're starting to experiment with JavaScript and cascading style sheets. But it doesn't quite, we're like, yeah, I don't know if I trust JavaScript. Does it work all the time? These cascading style sheets, they certainly help the layout a little, but they're kind of complicated and they don't work all the time.

And we haven't, I think we'll get to 1999 faster, but we haven't got to the really good implementations of all of that. And we're still several years away from Web 2.0, where you had Ajax and dynamic websites and all of that. And so, you know, we've got to fine-tune LLMs up. What they're good for today is probably not what they'll be good for in five years. They certainly won't be what they're promising you they'll be good at in five years, that's for sure. because nobody knows, you know? It's a stopped clock phenomenon. Somebody's predicting the thing that they will be good at in five years by accident, but nobody actually knows. But they are really powerful tools that are good at a lot of different things. It's funny you talk about search. I find myself

going to a search engine when I know the site, but I can't remember its domain name, right? I'm like, oh, I know, I know I need this. Where is that site? Oh, yeah, there it is. Great. I go to a search engine when I'm like, I think this answer is out there. Can you go and try to find it? And then it goes and finds it. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's the source that I needed for that. Right. I will also use LLMs if I am like, is this true? I'll ask the LLM and then I'll go to its sources, kind of the way I used to use Wikipedia. And actually still use Wikipedia, where I'm like, I trusted enough to be like, okay, that that seems to make sense from what I know. Where's the source that I can verify that it didn't hallucinate? And every once in a

Well, I catch it hallucinating it, but I'd say seven to eight times out of ten, it's not. Yeah, that's about where I'm at. And so what's happening for me personally is I'm settling into that use groove. The groove that I'm going to settle into and be in as far as what I think it's good at for my workflow, for what I need, or whatever. Like yesterday, I needed specific steps on how to make this plug-in for OBS do what I needed it to do. And I couldn't find them anywhere in any of the old ways. I'm searching Google, I search duck, duck go, I search Bing, thinking maybe the engines would all give me a different answer. They did, but none of them gave me the answer I wanted.

I tried YouTube videos, which is often a go-to. None of them covered what I was trying to do with this kind of little known plug-in. So I almost gave up, and then I went, well, let's just see what, like, Claude says. So I went in there and said, hey, I'm just looking for step-by-step on this particular thing. And it immediately gave me 10 steps, and they 100% worked, and I was done. So sometimes it's like, it has the knowledge of a thing. it's obscure and weird it was trained on it maybe i'm the only guy that ever pulled it out again but it did it and and so for me that's that's like crazy leaps forward for what i want out of tech

but but all these you know caveats they're getting better at like an lLM is just a random word generator that makes words that make sense but an lLM with filters with machine learning you know with other tools combined suddenly is useful but the more narrow you make them, the more useful they are. And that's why you see these tools like Gemini getting better because they're like, oh, people seem to use it for this. Let's focus them on being good at that, of finding information and being accurate with it and all of that.

Yesterday I was pulling Eileen's TV off the wall because we're going to paint her office. And I couldn't remember how to detach the TV. I took a picture. I asked JetGPT and it was like, oh, it's the little strap thing. And I'm like, oh, right, I looped that little strap thing up there so it wouldn't hang down. I forgot it was there.

Okay, you know, it took, yeah, it took me two minutes. It's almost like we can use this to start replacing keeping manuals around. Yeah, a little bit. It used to be I'd keep a PDF folder on my hard drive of like, all right, here's the, you know, here's my printer instruction manual. Here's this 3D printing instruction manual. Right. And you spend 20 minutes paging through the manual until you found the right thing. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Now it's like literally, I did exactly what Scott was describing. It's like, all right, I need. how do I change this hot end in this 3D printer? LLM actually describe the process

a chat or whatever Safari uses. Google AI is what it uses because I'm on Google. And it told me the whole process and let me get to a video and it's like, all right, I don't need to keep manuals around anymore. But sometimes if you say so this illustrates Tom's point

because you're absolutely right and that's a perfect scenario where it often is correct. if you go, hey, what's the name of the movie with these three dudes in it? I can't remember the title. And Jim and I'll come back with some of the most ridiculous combination of things you've ever seen. Yeah, because it's not good at that stuff. Yeah. And you can tell it. That's incorrect.

That guy's that actor's not in it. Oh, you're correct. Sorry, here's the real one. And so you can make it like relearn and all that. But it's bad at some things. You think it should be good at because in our heads we're like, well, this is the computer on Star Trek. We're just talking to the computer. Right, exactly.

But it's not how it works. It's not the... Well, this is beta software. I think you have to remind yourself that. And what it's bad at today, it won't be bad at tomorrow. Right. That's the other thing. It's like, well, I tried it once and it was bad at that.

So it's always bad at that. Because in March, me and some friends were staying at this place that had a TV that wouldn't get out of demo mode. It took us about 15 minutes on Gemini because Gemini goes, well, that's obviously a Sony. And we're like, it's not a Sony. Oh, you're right. That's a Samsung. Well, the Samsung menu.

does this. I'm like, menu doesn't do that. But eventually we got the answer out of it. Yesterday, I was just like picture of the bracket. It's like, oh, yeah, here's how you do it. Here's an illustration. Do do, do, do, do. It's continuously improving over time. And it's improving at different things. So the, who is in this movie thing? Pot shot. You might get it right. You might not. But you're going to want to go look it up. It's going to get good at that stuff too, though. And there's, I think there's going to be a lot of smaller LLM. that are no longer like, we're clawed, it's going to be, this is a tool that's good at, you know, fixing electronics, right? And it's trained specifically on that to be really good at it.

It's a little bit like Gemini does with its very, with various Google services. Like, this one is good for docs. And while you're writing on things, it is good for assisting you. And if you try to do anything outside of that, like, I've done this. It's like, I don't really do that. Yeah, I've been in docs going, hey, what's the best burger according to everybody? And it will come back and go, get the F out of here. I don't do that in here.

Yeah, yeah. And there's something, there is something I like about the narrowness of the application potentially. It's not that these big ones won't exist for big, broad, you know, consumery, whatever. But there's always, but what's interesting about this business is the way it's moving into specifics. And, and applications that are just, like I talked about my dentist a couple of weeks ago and his AI assisted crown mold thing, which I won't go into again, but it's highly, highly accurate. it and he's very, very happy with it, and it's saving him money time and mistakes and a million

other things. But that thing is so narrowly focused for his specific thing. And it also runs on device when it's running and gets updates occasionally on training, which he likes, he likes the idea that he's not always, you know, having that thing fiddled with. He only wants to do it when there's updates or whatever. Anyway, those kinds of specific applications, I think we're going to see in the next five years, that's what's really going to take off. And it's not. It's not a like the internet where it's like, well, the internet's good for pictures and video and also text, but then also voice and then also video, this thing's going to be a more like, instead of it being a, and capture everything, even though GPT would like to tell you they're the ones

that are doing that or something, I think it'll be a little more, there'll be lots of lanes that you can take. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and to push my browser analogy farther, NetScape was the unexpected dominant winner of the browser wars in the 90s. Eventually, the company had disrupted Microsoft got its act together, made Internet Explore the dominant browser of the 2000s, but eventually it got disrupted by the insurgent Google, which had just been a search engine, which made Chrome. Sound familiar? Open AI is currently the amazing upstart that came out of nowhere.

to revolutionize LLMs, but Google, the incumbent, has raced back to the four and is making Gemini possibly a more popular product. Don't get comfortable, folks, because Chrome is in the offing from somebody in this analogy. We just don't know who it is. Right. That's really funny. I mean, it's true, right? This is this pattern every time. It's just new names and maybe new applications, but it's really the same. And sometimes the Netscape stick around.

Sometimes they don't. You know, it just depends on the scenario. Sometimes Andresen hangs around like a dirty rag. Sometimes Sam Alton missed Mark Andreessen. Sometimes he's not. Sometimes he isn't. You just never know, one day to the other. Well, this is fantastic.

See, we went way further on it. I'm so glad you answered this one. This is exactly where I was hoping this question. No, that's why I was like, I have a hard time answering these questions, but they're always worth thinking about. So I really, I really like that. Well, thank you, Stratus 88. If you got your own questions to send in, the morning stream at gmail.com, we'll get you directly to us, and we will read them here on a Wednesday,

which should happen again next week. Tom willing, I guess. You'll be here. Yeah, well, and, you know, the earth existing and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Assuming we're all still here and we have power and all that, we'll definitely have Tom back. Tom, anything else going on you'd like to mention?

Just, I know a bunch of you already have it, and I've even gotten some feedback from some of you that you like it, and I appreciate that. But synced, my book is available now. You can order it on Amazon, ebook. There is a print available at L.E. ULU.com, Lulu.com. So go check it out.

It is all of this kind of stuff we've just been talking about, chapter by chapter, processors, GPUs, there's a chapter on open AI, there's a chapter on the internet, chapter on how we got Ethernet, all that kind of stuff. Find it wherever fine books are vended. It's called Synced, S-Y-N-C-E-D. Nice. It is Tom Merritt, everybody. He is Ace Detect on all the social medias, which are also being disrupted a little bit right now.

Shattered. Find him there. Tom Merritt, have a fantastic week and we'll see you next time. Thanks, y'all. Bye now. Tell us.

Should have mentioned, I'll be on the predictions show this Friday. Oh, cool. And then I'll also be on a segment of his regular show talking about the game awards

after they're done on Thursday. So Thursday, we get the game awards, got a bunch of predictions about that. We'll see if any of it comes true. Sure. And we'll do a roundup. So a lot of,

if you're into Tom's side, stuff in terms of content, you will hear my dumb voice, maybe too much. And if you're not into it, is there something very wrong with you? Yeah, what's wrong with you, people? What is wrong with you? Someone asked in the chat, I don't remember who it was. Someone said, what is it? LLM, is that just GPT? And I wrote, so I decided just to throw that into one of these and see what it said. Sure. An LLM or a large language model is the underlying AI technology. Think of it as the brain or the engine. GPT is a product that uses an LLM, specifically open. Open AIs GPT models.

And then it breaks down how all those work. So there's the product versus the model. The LLM is the core technology like GPTClaude, Lama, Gemini, whatever. And the product is the application you interact with, which would be like GPTClaude. Dot AI, whoever. So yeah, there you go. That's a good, good way to understand it. Open AI has done a thing where they've established themselves a little bit like the Kleenex name and all this.

Yes, right. Yeah. And that's really good for them brand recognition wise. Right. all those yeah no one no one thinks of like i personally think anthropic is the best of the bunch i really like everything they do that's the clod one or their their their l lm is clod and it's just more like i don't know i just feel like it has more practical application than a lot of these do for me so i really like that one but it's not the household name that gpt is you know yeah that's the thing i just

picked up i picked up mcdonalds basically i have chat gpt is the one i jump into and i'm uh when i'm like working on a puzzle for rock puzzles monthly and I'm like oh wait I need I need a song title that's exactly 14 characters long give me you know give me a list that by the way perfect use case for these things what you just described for sure for sure I was trying to think of a better one during the conversation with Tom and I couldn't do it that is exactly it where you're like how many like the other day I wanted I was trying to work up a visual quiz for you it became too visual so I didn't do it but basically it was all about presidents and How old do you think they were when they...

Oh, I remember seeing your threads post about, who is it that... Garfield. James Garfield. That's right. He was 49 in that photo, and he looked 100. He totally did. And it's, you know, it's a mix of, like, clothes, styles, the smoking of the era, beards, all that. But, you know, fun little quiz. And so for me to do it, it was like, I need... I need presidents who had these photos.

I need to know when those photos were taken, and then I need to cross-reference it so I have this accurately. It was really good at that. Pooped it all out. That's so cool. That's really cool. We may still use it at some. I saved it, but it's just like, I realize it was. It would be a good Friday thing, right?

Yeah, definitely. Those tend to be like more video than video viewers than audio viewers. Yeah. And you could say, well, couldn't Brian do the math and figure out the number of characters in the song type of whatever? Yeah. Yeah, sure I could. But guess what he does? spreadsheet. I have a spreadsheet with 3,000 song titles on it, and I do formula stuff all the time.

But if I just need it really quick and I don't want to go in and do a formula and do a search and all that sort of thing, I put in chat GPT. I use up a water bottle somewhere in the world. And I get an answer in about 30 seconds. I mean, the good news is those water bottles, if you believe the companies and those who have observed it, they are getting better at that and they're reusing. I mean, like all that stuff's getting more efficient. Look, I'm not stumping for AI in particular, not like generative visual AI or film or any of that shit. Forget it. No. That stuff sucks.

Don't send me your AI music and say, well, this, this version of September by a klezmer band that's totally done by AI is really good. I'll listen to it and I'll say, yeah, that's, you know, that's what it sounds like. And that's definitely made by a machine, but I don't care about it. Yeah. It's hard to. Oh, that's another. great way of putting it like AI songs like these ones that are breaking the top 40 yes yeah I'm trying not to old man this but there's yeah I feel it partly is because I know so so I have

I do have this question self self inspection question about if I'd heard that and was told it was just some band how would I react yeah versus me knowing going in that it's artificial how would I react and honestly I don't think I know I need someone to trick me so that I can experiment a little bit because I want to know will I be like oh this is so good where's the rest of their music yeah exactly or am I going to go man there's something missing here like I don't know I need to I haven't been fooled yet that I know of so I need someone to fool me so that's your job out there everybody fool me with with a song don't be obvious about it right yeah you got to wait a while because now we're thinking about it and now we're thinking that anything you send us is going to be AII

So you've got to wait at least a good three weeks to do this. Yeah, there's so much of this is that you know a thing that makes it not makes us not like it. Like, I know that that's a fake song, therefore it's soulless, therefore I don't like it. But maybe I'm not, you know, I've been wrong before. So somebody, somebody fool me, but do it like Brian said, do it like six months from now or I'm not thinking about it. Right, exactly. Yeah, Daniel Vera says, good quiz subject, real or AI music, like play a little kill for a song and we have to tell if it's AI or real. I like that. That's not bad. Yeah. That could be fun.

That's what, three water bottles worth a... That's right. That's right. It's fine. Has Jamie given you anything for this Friday? Not yet, but he... I know we've got Monica week from Friday, so we've got something for that one, but nothing... Let me double check. Maybe I have something for you this Friday. I don't know. Scramble on the Brit Pop one's still there. Yeah, that looks like I don't have anything yet. So I assume it'd be... He's apparently doing a new Britpop one to make up for the one last one. I think whatever he gives you

or whatever he does this week is probably for me, right? Doesn't he go back and forth? Probably. Yeah, probably. All right, we'll see. If he gives anything, yeah. Speaking of which, if you're a patron of the show, you get that TMS Friday thing and you should. It's a good time.

You should. It is a great time, yeah. Let's get out here. I'm going to read one quick message from Robert and Hender Tucky. Yay. I love when he writes in. He says, hello, Smith and Baker. You were talking about last names that are also jobs.

when somebody happens to do the job that is their last name, it's called a nominative, excuse me, nominative determinism. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, your name determines your job, in other words. These days, it's usually coincidental, although it would explain Anthony Weiner. Sure would.

It really would. Boy, you don't hear from that guy very much anymore, do you? Yeah, you really don't. Yeah. Maybe cancel culture is real. Maybe, huh, wow. Turns out when you're a douchebagging. Yeah.

There are consequences. Usually, there are consequences. Sometimes they're, sometimes it's only in history that you get to have those consequences, but... Right, right. I can't wait for history on some of these people. Yeah. History class can't come soon enough in a couple of cases. Exactly. Anyway, Robert, thank you for that message. And yeah, I don't, I guess today you wouldn't, you know, nobody's called Larry Software Engineer. Right? Nobody's called Zachary... Promptor.

secretary or whatever your name is or whatever your job would be even if it's like you know Jim Garbage Man nobody does that today I kind of wish we would that'd be fun

no but I mean nobody really comes up with their last name it's given you know it's part of your as opposed to like you know in these in these villages

where there was a Smith and where there was a a Cooper or a Fletcher you know where it's like oh that's that's Jim the Fletcher well we're just going to call Jim Fletcher now

but you know yeah I'd love to be See, people want time travel. Yeah, where do they, I guess it was immigrants coming over, right? And they were like, well, I want to distance myself from the family name. I'm just going to be, my last name is going to be this job that I've taken in this village. Everybody wants to use time travel for different reasons. I want to use it to go back to some of these points in time to the exact moment that happened the first time.

Yeah. Like I want to be there when they went, you know, I think we'll just call you a fletcher. You make the fletcher, you do the fletching. I'm trying to get away from the McGillicutty name. There's a lot of problems steeped in the McGillicutty name. I'm going to be... Murders and all sorts of shit. Right.

Call me Smith. Is the last name black also... Like, I know Smith is like a blacksmith, but is the last name black also come from that? Oh, I don't know. Separate thing. Yeah, I don't know. Or white, for that matter. Right.

Or, uh, you don't know anybody named pink, you know? No, I don't know anything pink. I know some greens. You know any oranges? I know some whites. I don't know any oranges. We know some jades. But that's also material, right? That's like a jade stone.

A gem, yeah. It can also be green. Lots of browns. Lots of my niece married a guy named Jared Black, who had the last name black. The etymology. The etymology of how language evolves is just fascinating to me because it just seems like,

Like there had to have been like one moment in time where if something flipped. Right. And they used to say, you know, words changed. Like awful used to be a compliment. Because you'd be, oh, it's awful. Meaning it's full of awe. Like, oh, full of awe. Right, right, right.

Yes. And now it's not. Now we peer it and go, man, that food was awful. You're like, yeah. Or, or not terrific. Fantastic used to just mean it was something didn't mean good. it just meant something out of the realm of normalcy, of reality, because it was fantastic. Right.

And now we just say, oh, breakfast is ready? Fantastic. Yes, you're a fantastic liar. It doesn't mean you're good at it. You're just, you know, really good at coming up with a fantasy. And that was obviously slow and over time, but it's still just wild. Sure. How that works.

Right. Anyway, feeling philosophical today like I am. Good. Go to Patreon or go to Frogpants.com slash TMS for all our links. Our Patreon is there. Our ability to submit song requests. fill out stuff that we do. Find Brian's QuicktmS.L.I site where we track all the cool stuff we watch and listen to and read. All of it's there. Frogpants.com slash TMS. And if there's something that isn't there and you think should be, let us know. I'm happy to add it in. Brian, let's play a song and bail. Yeah. This one, you know, I'm not going to go into detail on why I'm playing this for them, but this one's going out to Bombie, Bombats, in our community.

He's just had a rough time of things lately and told me this was one of his favorite songs. And guess what? It is my favorite Christmas song. This cover, and normally it's by Slade. The original is by Slade. But this cover is by Oasis. Came out on a compilation album in 2002 called One Love. Here is Merry Christmas, Everybody.

Hanging up your stockings on the wall. It's the time that every Santa has a ball. Does he ride a red-nosed reindeer? Do a turn up on a sleigh? Do the fairies keep him so but for a day? So here it is Merry Christmas Everybody's having fun

Look to the future now It's only just begun Are you waiting for your family to arrive? Are you sure you've got the room to spare inside? Does your granny always tell you that the old songs are the best? She'd be up and rock and rolling with the rest. So here it is Merry Christmas

Everybody's having fun Love to the future now It's only just begun What will your daddy dear If he catches Mama kissing Santa Ah Are you hanging up your stockings on the wall?

Are you hoping that the snow will start to fall? Do you ride on down the hillside in a buggy you have made when you end up on your eyes that you've been slay? So here it is Merry Christmas Everybody's having fun Love to the future now The song it just begun

So here it is Merry Christmas Everybody's having fun love to the future now it's only just begun so here it is merry christmas everybody's having fun love to the future now it's only just begun It's

Jesus Jesus. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes. Get more at frogpans.com. Stop acting like a dadgum, sissy.