The Morning Stream - TMS 2947: Licensed To Pun

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

Orange Hot Chili Pepper. 0HELLNO. Poop and Big Meat are my favorites. Some of these N words are troubling. Graduates of the Drescher Academy. We're Here To Hump. Dumb Effery. Twerkel the Urkel. You'll... get N o Kang, No Tony Stark and No Lt Yar. Questions for Q*Bert. Hot is the Devil's Temperature. Am I annoying you Brian. It was Palpatine all along. Daryl James Tobasco. Save the kimchi, save the world with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Scott here to remind you that nerdtacular tickets are now on sale. And man, do I want to see you guys live in Salt Lake City in June of this year? If you can make it, we'd love to have you. Head on over to frogpans.com. Click that nerdtacular ticket thing right there and right in front of your face. First thing at the top of the page. And boom, all the information's there, how to get good hotel rates, all that fun stuff. And we have endeavored to make everything as affordable as possible
Starting point is 00:00:22 so that we can see us all in one big place one more time this year. Once again, that's frogpans.com. Get your nerdtacular tickets today. One time my eyeball fell out and asked me a question. I did not understand it because the eyeball did not have much of a mouth to speak. So instead, I consulted the neighbor's chicken, and that really got me no further. So let's just do the safe thing and say, support this show at patreon.com slash TMS today. Coming up on the morning stream, orange hot chili pepper.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Oh, hell no. Poop and big meat are my favorites. Some of these N-words are troubling. Graduates of the Dresher Academy. We're here at hump. Dumb effery. Twerkle the Urkle. You'll get no.
Starting point is 00:01:00 No Tony Stark and no Lieutenant Yard! Questions for Cubert. Hot is the devil's temperature. Am I annoying you, Brian? It was Palpatine all along. Daryl James Tabasco. Save the kimchi! Save the world with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:01:18 We are speaking to you through the translating device above your head. Can you understand this? If she fell into a sewer pipe, she'd come up holding her gold watch in each hand. The morning stream. I wonder what kind of world we're opening the door on. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Wednesday, January 19th, sorry 14th, 2026. I don't know why I saw nine there. At least you get the 2026, right?
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah. Maybe the four, you know, if you squint, the four is a little bit of a nine, you know. It's like a little bold. Sure, sure. Sort of. I could see that. A little bit. That's my excuse.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's the best I go. Hey, everybody, we're here to do a show. It's me, Scott. That's him, Brian. Good morning, Brian. Good morning. Yo, good morning, hump day. Hump day.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It is hump day. It is a good day to be humping, as they say. And that's good because we're here to hump you. Okay. Maybe not. Maybe I've spoken too soon. How do you drink first? Man, I did not.
Starting point is 00:02:34 sleep at all. I don't know what my deal was last night. I went to bed tired and thinking, oh, man, the feeling of like, here's the natural melatonin filling my system. I'm going to be good for the, for the hall here. I put my head down on that pillow and I conked out for about an hour. And then the rest of the night, I just woke up and it just like brain firing and thinking of a million things. You never shut it off. Tried counting the sheep and doing the letters and all those things. None of it worked. Freaking. No, same same thing. Ran into that. Sucked. woke up at three watched
Starting point is 00:03:07 I think a full episode of foundation and was like all right am I starting to get tired I'm starting to get tired so I turned off the lights laid back down and I just sat there and thought okay what are the things I need to do tomorrow even though I've got a to do list right here a lovely 3D printed to do list
Starting point is 00:03:23 yeah yeah look at you with your physicality even and that's not enough to make you feel comfortable to sleep exactly it's lame put one of those little slots in there it says sleep and then you'll Yeah, that's the problem. Then I need to do it. Right, exactly. Then I can cross it off when I'm done. Take it off your list. Yeah, I don't know what the deal was, but did not sleep very well.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Things are looking up from, well, my mother-in-law is showing slow progress. She's got, she still can't communicate, but she's awake a lot more. She's sitting up and eating, walking around a bit, a little bit irritated with people. A little bit, not like, you know, normal where she sees through your soul kind of stuff. like she's used to but but starting to and she's responding well to like the stuff
Starting point is 00:04:10 that makes your brain not swell and junk like that her doctor their doctor basically confirmed what everybody thought it was which is this plaque
Starting point is 00:04:17 buildup protein thing that's essentially a form of dementia but it's it directly affects your vessels which cause these brain bleeds
Starting point is 00:04:25 so it's like this combination of stroke and potentially dementia and there were probably signs before this like about six months ago she forgot
Starting point is 00:04:35 my daughter had kids and we should have probably there's nothing you really do you can't rush her in there and go she forgot we had kids and they're going to say anything right of course of course it's just one of those things so that's all going on and also I found out yesterday so we're having two
Starting point is 00:04:50 viewings and a funeral from my mother and I thought oh wow two viewings so I reach out to my sisters and I go why are we doing two viewings in my head I'm thinking John's doing something weird and I don't like it or whatever. Oh, sure, sure. My very first thought is like, he's overdoing something and why are we doing that?
Starting point is 00:05:07 So I contacted Wendy and Misha and they said, no, that's absolutely normal. And I said, really? She goes, yeah, it's like you do the people that can be there on the evening and then there's a morning one of the day of the funeral. You do a morning one. And probably a more intimate, like family, close family. Yeah. I think that's how they kind of, because the night one is like people who can, they're off work, they can come by, that sort of thing. And so it all made sense after it was done.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But yesterday was a lot of that farting around just trying to figure out stuff, finding a bunch of photos so we can print them, get them ready for this display thing. There's a lot going on. But here's one thing I got to do that was fun in the middle, all of it. Oh, let's hear it. I got to interview the creator of Cubert. Really? Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That's right, everybody. Cubert, 1982. Wait, I think it's 82. That sounds right. Yeah. 82's arcade hit. They never were quite able to reach. those heights again with that character or any
Starting point is 00:06:03 subsequent games. There was a sequel, wasn't there? Or attempted a sequel? They did. It was called Cuber Cubs with a Cube. Yes. Do you remember that? Yes. I do remember that. Yeah. A whole different team. In fact, we talk about that a little bit. It's like Joust. Also, he did programming
Starting point is 00:06:19 on Jouse 2. He also is the guy responsible for the technology that made it so Mortal Kombat could do digital capture and animation of real people and put them in games. Yeah, the guy's got a really cool His whole story is great. And on the side, he's, I shouldn't say on the side.
Starting point is 00:06:36 He also was like a theater guy. So he's always doing like local theater stuff. And he was in improv for a long time. Andy programs. Super interesting guy. Warren Davis is his name, if I didn't say it. And I interviewed him yesterday. I assume he swore a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:50 No swearing. No. But a lot of, maybe that was the swears. Sure. We talked a little bit about that, about the innovation that was that sound chip, creating a 2D game that kind of had a 3D quality to it. He's super interesting, really nice guy.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And it turns out he was at that local retro game conference they had here that I went to. And I just passed each other in the night, basically. Didn't see each other. Really? So he was also attending. He was a guest probably. Yeah, guest. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And when I went by the Kubert booth thing they had there, he was there signing and talking. But there was a line. And so I just never, we just never met. And so he's like, oh, man, well, next year. And so he's coming next time and we'll try to hook up. That's super cool. It was a really fun interview. So if you want to hear this thing, here are the places going to land.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It'll be on YouTube audio. We just did an audio interview. It wasn't, there's no video. But it'll be on YouTube in its full form. Friday, if you're a core subscriber or a play retro subscriber, you've already got it. Either Patreon or the substack, that all went out there. And then it's all scheduled to go public, public on Friday. So Friday morning around 7 a.m.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It'll hit all the feeds. And I just think, look, if you're into retro gaming or remember that era or want to talk to a guy who's seen it all from then all the way to now and has thoughts on everything from how games we used to work to what they are today, AI looming over everybody's shoulder and all that. He was just a really fascinating discussion. So do check it out. Guys got more energy than I do. I can tell you that. Good for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It was great. Excellent. What did you get up to? I guess there anything fun? Yeah, we went to, did puzzle pint, and one entire puzzle was cryptic, cryptic clue-based, and that's where I kind of excel. It's like, all right, it's almost like, here you go,
Starting point is 00:08:49 everybody else out of the way, I got this. I got this part right here, the cryptic clues, because I do one of those every morning as part of Minute Cryptic, the app, Minute Cryptic. I was going to say you kind of train for those a little bit, right? I do a little bit, yeah. I used to do cryptic crosswords all the time, and I'm sure I'll jump back into those when the,
Starting point is 00:09:08 one of my friends got me a Games Magazine subscription. Oh, cool. He's still around. That's still thing. Yeah, it's called Games World of Puzzles now, but he's like, all right, get to his subscription. So excited to start doing those again. But one of the things I found yesterday that I thought would be a great thing to look at today
Starting point is 00:09:26 is the rejected the Florida's deal. DMV rejected license plate, custom license plate list, which just came out at the beginning of the year. How do you get that? Is this something they publish or do you just? Yeah, apparently they do. They released it. And some of these are great.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah. If you want to, if you want to share the. I'm going to pull this up. Hold on. Hopefully none of these are two or anything in here. I mean, they, they are. but yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Doesn't look like, okay. So a few of these, let's see. It takes like zero zero, zero, uh, F's. Yeah. Zero zero zero K F's. Uh, that one's pretty good. I really like this. Oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I don't know why that would. I feel like that should have made it. I know. It feels like that should have made it. Yeah. Yeah. There's an oh shit with a one and a. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 That one's pretty. I like the person who, who submitted one P. P. F. K and R. Yeah. What does that mean? What is that? I don't know. One P.
Starting point is 00:10:36 One P. Fener. F. Kner. One P. F. Kner. The F K is probably the F bomb. But then like the very same day they said, oh, I'll put a one at the end. And that's probably what, that's probably why he got rejected. Probably the same guy. Probably the same guy.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. I like two boner. That's fun. Two boners good. Yeah. I don't know. Bitches with a five. for the instill.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Fork off, which I guess is an F-off. 69 L-O-L-L-Sign is good. That one's great. That one just really leaned right in and just said, let's go. Bang bus, just right out there. Okay. I guess you can't do assault. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:15 No. Jeez. Bang bus. Bang bus with a four is a as an A and a five as an S. Yeah. That's great. These are bitch please. Some of these are gnarly.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah. Yeah. I like a dumb effery. Isn't right here? Yes. It's really good. Eat shit without an eye. I mean, some of these are just so obvious.
Starting point is 00:11:40 How do they think they're going to get away from? I don't know. Yeah. I like FCK, DJT. I love it. I appreciate it, but it's too bad I couldn't get. Yeah, and I'm sure all they meant was, you know, Daryl, James. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Tomlinson. Tomlinson. Yeah, and that's all that is. The other one who tries to get around the, well, I won't do the F-C-K word, but I'll add an extra K at the end, and I'm sure it'll get through them. Yeah. I like this one. F-U-K space gas. It must be an EV.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Probably an EV. I didn't even think of that. Let's see. There was one of these I saw. Oh, yeah. How come Huck 2 didn't make it? I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Imagine getting that for your car. Gosh, dang, dude. Yeah. Oh, some of these N-words are troubling. I don't like that one. I don't like, I don't even want somebody put N-word, like spelled it. No rubber. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Uh-oh. We know what happened to them. Merger. Merger actually looks like it got allowed and then lodged a complaint. Like somebody. Oh, yeah, look at that. Like somebody, like, somebody. like it got through and then somebody said,
Starting point is 00:12:59 uh, no, and then they got revoked. It was an October attempt. That is absolutely funny. Now, this final page, which is all the letters you don't think you're ever going to use, let's go down here and see it because it's alphabetical, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Uh, sexual. I like that one. Right. Yeah. Sick or sex with three X's. Slut. Yeah, slut is good. Teabagger.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Type shit. That's good. good. U-Twatt. That's good. Wheatard. Oh, boy. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Hoa. She was a hooah. And Zoom N-F. Why do you, why do you F-U-K? That's great. Why do you F-U-F? Oh, yeah. What's a Wid-ho?
Starting point is 00:13:43 What do you think Wid-Ho? I don't know. I don't know. And Zoom N-F. Maybe is that a widow that sleeps around? Is a wid-ho? Oh, a Wid-ho. Yeah, maybe that's because what killed her husband was finding out how many other
Starting point is 00:13:56 dude she had in her life maybe. Right. Yeah, that's great. I assume every state has rejects. I'd be curious like, uh, what the differences would be. Because Florida is, you know, obviously you're going to get some pretty wild stuff down there. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think the New Hampshire ones are probably going to be a little more tame, but, uh, kind of like sub bitches. Sub bitches. That's great. Very nice. Find. Didn't know this is a thing that was even public. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Exactly. I love it. Yeah. Seems like some throwaway, uh, throwaway, uh, throwaway thing the city wouldn't hang on to the DMV or whatever down there let's see oh I do have the um I have the 24 New Hampshire rejected vanity plate list let's see it it's a lot of the same this is from the Concord monitor or Concord no no I guess it's Concord in North Carolina it's Concord in New Hampshire this one's done more as a as an illustration though
Starting point is 00:14:49 let's see here in the TMS thing or where you said oh I'm sorry I put it in You know, I'll put it in the TMS thing. Duh. What am I thinking? There we go. Pulling that up. I put it in the chat. Oh, they even gave us color stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:03 They even gave us, like, exactly, like, give us an illustration, but, uh. Dilf. Just, just poop. Poop is great. I like big meat. That's my favorite. I want to meet. I want to meet a guy named big meat.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Big meat. Maybe I don't. Nudes. Nudes. Nudes. These are great. Yeah. Lesbrew.
Starting point is 00:15:26 That's for somebody's Subaru. That's amazing. What's a macehole? Is that just short for asshole? I think for a Massachusetts asshole. Oh, well, then, you know, your interstate rivalries, you're going to get in trouble with those. Don't be doing that. Mils for the one.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, I think poop and big meat are my favorites. Yeah. Hey, we got to meet up with it. There's one that's I fixed shit. Yeah. I'd feel like you're advertising your business is all. That's fine. I think so, exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Oh, there are more of these. There are more. Yeah, if you get the big ones. Truman. Tits up. Tits up. I think Wap is obvious. Yeah. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:16:05 G. G.D. Thought. Oh, a thought is like a, what's that called? Or the meaning is like a, is it like milk or something? It's like that. I don't know. Okay. All right. The kids in the chat will know. I don't know. Fox's sake.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Oh, like for FSA. For Fox's sake. Happy 16. I fix shit. I love pot. And Lesbrew. That's great. That's great. If you guys have your own weird ones at home, send them in.
Starting point is 00:16:38 We'd love to hear what your state thinks is rejectable in the world. All right. It is time for us to do what we do. And what we do is this. We play a game. It's a Wednesday. Here we go. Time for us to play a little bit of the old Tad Pooley feud with our friend Brian Dunaway
Starting point is 00:17:00 who joins us now on the line. Hello, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott, Brian. Hey, man. Oh, hello, Brian. Hey, man. I just said old game and not old Brian. Oh, Brian.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Old Brian. How would you spell that on the license plate? Be old and then. Oh, O'O-B-R-I. There you know. Actually, I don't think we'd have any, yeah. You wouldn't get rejected to that. No, no.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Somebody would say it's Olae, Brie. O'le! Okay, that's fine. Is that right? Is that okay? How about just don't confront me while I'm driving? All right. There you go. I like that. That's a great idea. I like your plate.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Hey, speaking of plates, let's see if we can win a plate for a lucky listener today with the game. And Brian, you want to explain how the plates work and how we spin them? Sure. Let's spin these plates. I'm actually going to move my catwoman. Oh, my, oh gosh, that is too bright. Somebody is like, why is Brian so orange? Oh, are you orange today? I'm going to make myself less orange. Why are you so orange? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I am orange. your new plate. Why, why am Brian so orange? Oh, no. Okay, it's time to play the tadpooly feud.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I've surveyed the tadpul on their preferences for my lights and nerdy topics. And Scott and Brian have to predict the answers they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. At the end of the game, we're going to add up all the points. The winner will actually be winning points for their listener, contestant. And contestants have been pulled from our supporters on Patreon at patreon.
Starting point is 00:18:25 At patreon.com slash TMS. Scott, you're playing for Michael Harris. Yeah. And Brian, you're playing for Perry Tarantine. Boom. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Thank you, Angry Orange. Yeah. I hope they both win. I hope they both get codes today somehow. Somehow it'll work out that they both get some stuff. They will. And I didn't put codes in the list, but I will grab those while we're playing the game. Let's play the game.
Starting point is 00:18:49 All right. Put your hands on your buzzers. We asked 400. I don't know how many because I haven't counted yet. Tadpoolers, because this is the new survey, to name their favorite sitcom character that is written. Oh, Scott. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:19:05 intuit that you were going to do like they'll never be seen. So I'm going to say Vera from Cheers. All right. Show me Vera from Cheers. My guess was wrong. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That's a great category. They'll have to remember that for the next survey. That's really good. I'll repeat the whole question for Brian. Name your favorite sitcom character that is written to be annoying. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Oh. Well, that's easy. Kramer. Well, show me Kramer. I don't think he was annoying, but sure. Number three answer on the board. I don't think he was meant to be annoying. He was, I mean, they cheered for him when he walked in the room.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I think it was that he was quirky and weird. He's supposed to be an annoying neighbor that comes over without knocking, just rocks in the house or in the apartment. That's true. You didn't say what people responded to. You said written. No, no, no. You're right, because the whole premise is annoying neighbor. You're absolutely correct.
Starting point is 00:20:05 He didn't get applause until he just resonated with the audience. And the audience is like, oh, we love it when Kramer shows up. Yeah, it's true. It's true. You're totally right. Yep. All right. So, Dunaway, you've got control of the board.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Nine answers on here. You already got three points. Board control. In that case, I'm going to say, well, there's one that I know that people really get annoyed by, but I don't think she was written. that way. It doesn't matter. So what Temple said, but I'm going to say Janus from friends. Oh, my God. She was also on Seinfeld for just for fun of you.
Starting point is 00:20:41 She was. Come to see the baby. Show me Janice. Different actress. Before we get emails, that was a different actor. Oh, that was a different actress. That's right. Yeah. She was, she dated Kramer for a while. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Same nasal voice. But you're right. Right. They both, they came from the same. They were graduates of the same school of annoying. They both went to the Dresher Academy. Yeah. You're giving them away. You're giving them away, man. You're still on. You could do it. Oh, you're not? Yeah. I don't think the nanny. I don't think the nanny. Okay, were you going to say that? I was actually thinking about saying the nanny. So you just gave it away. Give it away, give it away. Give it away. Give it away now.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I equally, I equally helped both of you then. Orange hot chili peppers. we were trying to say. All right, then I'm going to have to go with, did I do that? Oh, shit. Oh, sure. If he's not on there,
Starting point is 00:21:42 he needs to be in all 10 slots. He's so annoying. He's so damn annoying. And definitely written to be annoying. And the tad pool agrees. Number one is Steve Urkel from Family Matters. Freaking crap. I think I'm getting through.
Starting point is 00:21:55 So I've been watching a lot of this lately. I don't know if he's meant to be annoying. but it's just on my head and I can't stop thinking about it. Well, he's two characters and two shows, but he plays it kind of annoying in one and just kind of silly in the other.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I'm going to go with Dauber from Coach or Patrick. Can I say both? You want to say Patrick and Dauber? Because it's the same actor. I see what you're saying. Same guy, yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:22:25 No, I'll let you like his stuff he's on here for one. It'll, little chance he still plays the same character I mean it may be two different characters but it's the same that character I think that's okay all right
Starting point is 00:22:37 show me either of those guys nope surprisingly did he even make the list that's that kind of surprised me if he doesn't but Patrick's lovely he's definitely written that way but is it sitcom as much as cartoons
Starting point is 00:22:53 it's a cartoon it's different but we love we love Patrick's a sweet character He's all right. He's our, you know, he's our, he's grounded. Right. Literally. He's in that stone, under the stone there on the ground.
Starting point is 00:23:08 That's right. Yes. All right. I'm going to, I'm going to go with, and this is all sitcoms, so nobody's going to do anything weird, probably. Right. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I can confirm that the Tadpool understood the assignment and went with all sitcoms for their answers. Oh, that's great. That's actually really good. then I'm going to try Cliff Clavin. Oh, sure. That's brilliant. Great choice.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Show me. You know, it's a little old fact. I'm not on here, damn it. Are you kidding me? I did not make the list. He is a legend. He is legend. He is legend.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Number 14, it surprised me, too, that he wasn't higher in the list. He absolutely should have done. I think this is a sign that Cheers is aging it. It's way out. I guess. Yeah, probably. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:01 What do you got done away? I'm not, I do not feel good about my performance today. I don't either. And this next character that I'm thinking of, I don't know if he was written this way or if it just slowly became this way or it's a kind of like became itself. But the character, Chevy Chase played on community. I'm having to remember his name because I see Chevy Chase when I see it.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And it's so, is it really a character? Pierce. Is it even a character or is it just him being a sick? Is it just Chevy Chase? From what we hear, he's a giant dick. Exactly. A character that is written for someone annoying. Show me, Pierce.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Oh, come on. I love the answer, though. I kind of agree with you, and I feel like that, you know, he was, the character was written to be irritating. Right. For sure. All right. Back over to Scott. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:57 boy, I'm so tempted to do other Seinfeld characters, but they're so ancillary. I know, but I think that's what I was confused about, too. I'm like, Seinfeld so, it's just a powerful cultural point. And it has so, I mean, the whole idea is to annoy Jerry. I mean, that's just kind of, it's the thing, right? It's kind of surrounded by annoying people. And so, yeah. All right, I'll go, I'll just go with my gut and say Newman from Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Sure. Newman. Show me, Newman. Yeah. Number two. Wayne Knight. Excellent. You're getting it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 You're getting it. Okay. Well, I'm going to stay on that road and say that I think George was also written to be annoying. I'm going to say George. All right. Show me George Costanza can't stand you. Number nine.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Suddenly, Scott's ahead. That's right. Yeah, look at that. Are you really a hit? Wow. That was fast. Okay. But now, as we reach the bottom of the sign.
Starting point is 00:25:57 felt well. There's certainly other people, but they're so small and ancillary. I'm just worried that I've run dry in there. So I'm going to go with something. Friends was also huge. Yeah. Oh. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Maybe I don't do friends. That's dangerous territory for me. I'm going to go with a cartoon. Let's go with Ned Flanders. Oh, sure. Oh, that's a good one. Idly ho, neighbor.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Show me Flanders. Oh, really? Poop. Yeah. Ned made the list, but way down at, uh, where is he? He's so low, I can't even find him.
Starting point is 00:26:45 He's tied for, tied for, uh, 22nd place. Get low, get low. For the record, there are plenty of characters on friends that I find annoying personally. Right. But I'm treading carefully.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I know there's a fandom there that will not let me get away with it. So it's fine. Really? Interesting. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm really tempted to go with Ovalteen. Seinfeld. I'm just not sure.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah. And I don't want Scott to get the friends connection. So I think the most annoying character written would be Ross, because that's his whole jam, right? he's always like he's all like i got the dinosaurs and he's just he's always just a little bit neurotic yeah he drives me nuts drives me nuts he kind of really is the worst he gives you the it gives you the quiet down thing with a little hand little gesture oh geez the whole keyboard deal i mean a freaking monkey chee geez yeah he sucks yeah uh all right i think i'm gonna steal that answer from scy i think i'm gonna go with ross
Starting point is 00:27:51 do it dating his teenage student i mean come on now show me ross Oh, look at that. Free answer, people said Ross, but he didn't make the top 10. Oh, now I'm, oh, now I'm. Well, you're getting a shot at life. Maybe I will go with some Oval team then. Kenny Banya. Oh, Kenny Banya.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Damn it. Dania. Yeah. It's gold, Jerry. Go old. Jerry. No. Show me.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Banya. Oh, good. Oh, just like that Scott wins, but still has to work. I was hoping for good points on the board. Damn, dude. All right. Did we get to Sheldon on this list? Sheldon from...
Starting point is 00:28:33 Sheldon Cooper. Big Bang theory, Sheldon. Old Sheldon. Yeah. Old Sheldon. There you go. The show called Old Sheldon. Don't give them any ideas.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Show me Sheldon Cooper. That's good. That's good. Five more points for you. Is there anything else I can think of? Me or I beat me. I mean, so what is it? I guess you could go with, I guess I could throw out of answers, right?
Starting point is 00:29:00 Unless you want me to do it yourself. Oh, geez. I was kind of looking at the office because... Oh, shit, that's a good idea. Yeah. The office. Rain Wilson's character. Dwight.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Dwight. Thank you. Show me Dwight. Number six. Oh, shit. Durn it. Might be another one on there. Instead of going for.
Starting point is 00:29:26 for the Ross. I screwed myself this week. Who else on the office is annoying? They're all supposed to at one time or another be written to be annoying. I'd even say, you know what, David, not David, Brent, Michael Scott is annoying. Let's do him.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Kind of the proto annoying boss. Yes. All right, show me Michael Scott. Yeah. That's your name right there, yeah. 32. 10 points. On the board. That's maybe the most points I've ever had right here.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Breaks my heart. Two answers left on the board. I'm glad to see this going well. I'm running out of, oops, bring up the game, running out of names. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:09 HR director. How about, you've already won? Since you've already won, I'll tell you, just to make this interesting, that the two shows for seven and eight are shows that you have not guessed from.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Oh, interesting. So don't guess any more sign, Seinfeld, don't guess any more friends or the office or Arnardt, Arnald. I'm doing Arnold from freaking, uh, so, not silver spoons.
Starting point is 00:30:36 The other one. No. Arnold? No. Oh, you're talking about different strokes. Different strokes. Different strokes. Yeah. Always with his what you're talking about, Willis. Yeah, super annoying. Knowing as hell. All right. Go with it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Show me Arnold Drummond. Oh. No, no. All right. Let's get to the two that you didn't yet. I feel like these, once you see them, you're going to be like, oh, of course. No. Number seven, screech from Saved by the Bell.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Oh, duh. Dustin Diamond. Screech era people on our chat, too. We do. We go way back for number eight, but this guy eats worms. Frank Burns. Why did you get that? That is right up your whoosh.
Starting point is 00:31:23 It is. I love mash. Why didn't I think about that? Who else is on this thing? Some other ones that didn't make the cut. Barney Stinson from How I Met Your Mother. Niles Crane from Frazier. I thought about that, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 Jean-Ralphio Saperstein from Parks and Recreation. Perfect. Perfect one. Kimmy Fenn Gibler from Full House. Archie Bunker. Dan Fielding from Nightcourt. Dan, Dan Fielding. Jerry Seinfeld, Monica Geller from Friends.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Alf, Amy from Big Bang Theory. Alph. And I know. I love it. It's just written to be annoying. He is annoying. I agree. Somebody's seen the cat.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Andy the Narddarg, Bernard from the office. Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf. Very good, but only one person said it. Banya did make the cut number 21, or tied for 20 first place. Beavis, Bender, Blanche from the Golden Girls, Chang from Community.
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's definitely written to be. Chrissy from Three's Company. Yeah. Not like Don Nott's or any of those people? No, no. Them too. Cousin Oliver from Brady Bunch. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Wow. DeAngelo Vickers. Dina from Superstore. Enos from Dukes of Hazard. He got his own spinoff lasted like a well. Oh, Carmen's good. Cartman's really good. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Horsack, another good one. anyone from it's always sunny in Philadelphia yeah it's kind of the point of that show I guess totally is Kenneth from 30 Rock yeah that's hot is the hot is the devil's temperature
Starting point is 00:33:07 I like that guy a lot Marcy Darcy Larry David Larry from three's company Oh I agree you know what Put him in number one oh my gosh Marcy Darcy Somebody just didn't
Starting point is 00:33:21 Somebody doesn't like Peggy Hill put her Phil Dunphy from Modern Family How do you not put Petty? We can't put Peggy Hill I know Peggy's great Quagmire
Starting point is 00:33:33 Sure Yeah Gettigding Roland Schitt Chris Elliott's character from Schitt's Yeah he's really gonna be in that
Starting point is 00:33:41 Tracy Jordan from 30 Rock Yeah Liz Lemon And finally Zoidberg That's our list right there A lot of great cartoon stuff But didn't just
Starting point is 00:33:51 Didn't make the top ten Nothing made the top ten Yeah All right. Well, I really like how that all turned out. Brian, who won what? How to go? Oh, yeah. Congratulations going out to Michael Harris. Michael, you are going to be getting a copy of the first three that I grab here. Oh, cool. You're getting, this is great. Lego Lord of the Rings and Lego Hobbit. That'll keep you busy.
Starting point is 00:34:12 That's awesome. Yeah. Both of them courtesy of Racer 951 Y. Oh, hey, racer. Yeah, very good. And our other person whose name is, I have to go back to the other page, Perry, Tarantine, you're going to be getting a copy of Tropico. Which one? Let's see it's Tropico. Four collectors bundle.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Four is amazing. Very good game. I mean, they're up to six now, but four is a high point of the series. No doubt. That's great. Look at you guys. Congratulations. You've all done it, and that means that you walk away winners.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Done away, on the other hand, walks away a bit of a little. However, tonight, he takes back his winning hat because he and I are going to get together and we're going to talk about some old video games on the play retro show. Brian, what are we covering tonight? Oh, tonight we're looking at Astro Boy, that kind of half-naked Android guy on the Game Boy Advance of makeup factor. That is one of the best games that machine ever saw and no one knows it. Yeah, it's a lot of people. Yeah, it's very, very good. I really enjoy going back and digging deeper into Asthma. Strobooy, the animation or anime as well. I didn't do too much of it, but it's one thing I've been wanting to learn about for a long time. I know it's the inspiration for a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So it's good to see the source material. Absolutely. Yeah. It's going to be. That dairy queen twist thing on the top of his hair, too. A little bit. Yeah. If you show up early, we may be talking about a little health fad during the 80s of 90s. We get to talk about a guy named Tony Little. And if you don't remember that name, you're going to learn about it tonight. boy still doing it too still charging i think he charges 450 bucks a month uh or so for uh teaching you how to
Starting point is 00:35:58 be fit scott knows because he's his number one fan that's right i went through a deep dive uh done away that's all good uh we'll see you a little bit later stay out of trouble and whatever you have for lunch today do it through a straw all right by i don't know what that meant none of that made uh all right well done everybody it is time for this isn't technology wonderful it sure is but only when Tom Merritt's there. And thank goodness he's back from beautiful downtown Las Vegas, Nevada. I don't know if it's downtown. He's probably everywhere doing the CES coverage.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Tom Merritt, welcome to the show. How are you? I am good. Any day that starts with me hearing a reference to screech is a good day. It is. I think you're on a room mic or something. Yeah, you're not on the mic you think you are. What mic do you think I think I?
Starting point is 00:36:42 I think you might be on a... Maybe I think I'm on the laptop, Mike. That one over there. Oh, well, then if you're what you think, then you're correct. Yeah. What you're saying is you like instead. Oh, that's the one.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Gosh, you sound amazing. Yeah, you sound really good now. Oh, I sounded bad before? Well, just far. You sounded distant and aloof. I understand. Like you were just sort of off in your own thing. So it wasn't the mic after all.
Starting point is 00:37:06 No, it wasn't. Clearly wasn't. It's lovely to see you, though. I know that the week after CES can be a little, you know, probably a little exhausting. You were on kind of, you know, on a high, all week. So I hope you're doing well. Didn't come home with any bugs or gomboo, as my dad would say. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:25 knock on all the woods. I, so far am feeling like I don't want to say anything in Jinks it. Oh, good. Well, we'll let that virus lie right where it is and not bother it is. Yeah, there's all sorts of new like AI not touching your face
Starting point is 00:37:41 technologies that people have introduced their CEOs. Oh, thank you. We were just talking about that the DTS Discord about that just don't touch your face. Don't touch your face. It makes a huge difference. Who is it? Will Smith is not the actor, but the tech reporter guy that we've had on DTS many times. Will Smith, old friend of the show, he has always said, don't touch your face and everything will work out.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And I've always done that at like every con I've ever been to. And I never get sick. So I think there's something there. Might be something to it. It keeps the elephants away too. Yeah. Pend Gillette also said, don't touch your eyes specifically. Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Because he can make him disappear or something like that. I mean, that is, that is, you. You know, if you touch your cheek, it's less likely that you're going to catch something. But if you put your finger, you touch somebody's gross, sweaty hand, and then immediately touch your eye, yeah, you're getting something. Basically injecting it into your system. Yeah. So it was a little awkward when I, you know, go to interview people. I'm like, I'm sorry, but I won't be touching your face.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Please don't touch mine. They're not used to that in Vegas. They like a little. Yeah, they look to be like, okay. You went to the wrong. Gosh, I didn't know so much. many people wanted to touch faces. Yeah. That thing is pretty much covers the whole town now, right? CES is every
Starting point is 00:38:57 every hotel does something. You know, it was interesting, though. So they expanded the Las Vegas Convention Center a couple years ago to add a brand new hall, the West Hall. So you now have the Central Hall, South Hall, North Hall, and the West Hall. And it covers all of that, plus the Venetian, plus a bunch of sweets throughout Las Vegas. But the upstairs of the South Hall is closed. Oh, weird. So it's a little Las Vegas magic trick. I walked over like, wait, it is busy and there's a lot of people here.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But that used to be full of people. And granted, there's a whole new hall in the West Hall now. But I'm like, okay, so we're not bursting at the seams that they'd have that open. Yeah, or at the very least somebody else would be using it for some other adjacent event. Although I don't know. I don't know why you would schedule. If you were going to schedule something in Vegas, why you would ever do it up against CES, unless you're the ABA. Speaking of up against, when I was first.
Starting point is 00:39:49 at CES in 2001, the adult conference would happen at the same time as C. Yeah, it's always timed the same time. Comdex before that was the, and we used, well, I went to Comdex in like, I don't know, 2004. I don't know what it was. I don't think you did because I think I did before that. Whatever the last 2000 era one was, that's the last one I went to. and I remember walking, because you could easily do this. You could be walking around booths and stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And then it would be like a World of Warcraft zone change. Yeah. Where you didn't really realize it. There's no loading screen. You just kind of were there. And you were like, oh, no, no, no. We've gone too far over here. Suddenly, I'm in a desert.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah. It's very odd. A desert of morality. That's right. Well, anyway, it's good to have you back. We got a question that just happens to be about your time there. Amazing. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:40:46 We got this from... 839. Grum 44 is who sent it. I think grum is how you'd say that. Is it silent? Grum. Yeah. The bee is silent.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Like grum, like crumb. Like crumb. Yeah, I would think so. Grum 44 says, quote, I hope Tom had fun in Vegas. Can we ask that first? Did you have fun in Vegas? I had some fun.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yes. It was a lot of work, but also some fun. Yeah. A lot of pictures I saw were Tom hard at work. Yeah. Grindstone, axe, going at it. I don't spend a lot of time doing anything for fun during CES, but some of the things you do at CES are fun.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, I'm with you. I'm kind of a, oh, it's 9 o'clock, I'll be going to the hotel and watching reruns of something and eating a pizza. Bye everybody. Exactly, yes. That's so much more my jam. Anyway, then he says, was wondering if by the end of what he saw,
Starting point is 00:41:36 if he saw anything that really resonated with him as a big game changer in tech, or is it just more iteration and AI? integration. I think it's a fair question. Did anything at the by the by the finality of this thing did you go oh that's what we came here for the big deal is yeah I it's always iterative I was thinking about this how to answer this question and it reminded me of if the iPhone in 2007 had been introduced at CES you would have seen it as iterative you would have said like well I've seen these multi touch screens and other devices so it's really interesting that they put it in a phone but the the smartphone elements are actually pretty mundane. It's only a 2G connection, no keyboard. Like, you, you would look at it as iterative. CES is full of everybody trying to get an edge and make the next new big thing. So it always feels iterative. But when you look at CES five years ago, you're like, oh, wow, we've made great strides. Lots of things have changed. Things have fallen away like 3D TVs. Things have risen like robots. So it's always kind of iterative. Technology
Starting point is 00:42:44 just kind of moves that way. But if I were to say there was a big trend this year, it would have been the advancement in robotics. We went from robotics companies being like, hey, we've got a thing that's kind of cool, maybe an autonomous lawnmower or two, to a lot of really practical stuff, or at least stuff that is a prototype
Starting point is 00:43:06 that shows how it could be practical once they get it to scale and all of that. So, you know, humanoid robots, definitely not something you're going to be able to buy in the next couple of years, but they were practical. They were showing them off and they could actually do things. So five years from now, iterative, iterative, we'll probably have some humanoid robots that are pretty useful. And there are a lot of smaller robotics things happening.
Starting point is 00:43:30 A lot of Chinese companies showing off various different takes on robotics. A lot of cute robots, that seems to be the selling point is to make them fuzzy companions right now. Sure. But yeah, robotics is the thing to watch. And I think that's what CES is best for. It's less about like, here's the big new technology that was announced at CES that will change our lives. It's more, where is technology going? Look at CES.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Look at what companies are emphasizing. And that tells you where they think technology is going and where they're putting their efforts. So the fact that, so there's a couple of, I wouldn't call them no shows, but there are a couple of things that were expected to be bigger deals or more. or talked about or even stage presence for and that was like one of them was in vizia's got these new arm gaming chips they've been touting for a long time and there's been rumors about their performance and all of that and it was supposed to be c s 2026 that we got like right hey we're hitting the ground and they delayed all of that so how much of that do you think we saw this year of people going whoa demand for stuff is weird and the AI super center or data centers are needing all this stuff so we've got to
Starting point is 00:44:40 hold back and was there a feeling of that or is it just like any year stuff gets held back? Mostly it was like any year. I mean, I didn't hear of a lot of things being held back. That was the big one. And there's always something like that that gets held back. You know, on the one hand, you have Nvidia doing that. On the other hand, you have Intel with a very successful introduction of Panther Lake. Now, we'll see what happens when those chips are actually out in the populace. But a lot of people came away from CES going, Intel did a really good job with Panther Lake. really promising. That could be the first step towards a comeback for Intel.
Starting point is 00:45:15 So I feel like that got less attention because, you know, well, good news story about Intel. That's not going to sell newspapers. Whereas Nvidia failing? Yeah, that'll get the clicks. And honestly, Nvidia didn't fail. I think what happened there is there's a lot of complexities in the supply chain. A lot of priorities have to be set, especially because of the over demand for RAM right now. and Nvidia wisely said, hey, you know what makes us the most money?
Starting point is 00:45:46 Ruben, the new server chip that goes into data centers. So let's emphasize that. And, you know, we're going to have to hold off on the announcement of the gaming chip a little bit. But you'll get it, right? It could also be a little bit of Nvidia saying, you know, when we announce the gaming chip, we want to get all the news that day. If you announce something at CES, it is hard to rise above. everything else. You have to have the biggest announcement. You have to be announcing the next generation of the biggest data center chip that's going into data centers, which are the biggest
Starting point is 00:46:18 demand on Earth right now. So it's hard to stand out. A lot of things get announced at CES, and they get announced again later in the year because they just got swamped. Yeah. Another thing to mention, too, about those arm-based chips that NVIDIA was going to make a big deal out of, these, even if they had done what they were planning or we would have gotten more word, this is also still sort of a four or five years down the line. You will see maybe new iterations of the Steam Deck using that particular arm architecture rather than whatever it is they use now, which I think is, they're using an AMD CPU. But it's not like you'd go, it's not like CES gets up and they're available today.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah, right. That's not that kind of event. I mean, some things are like that. More things than used to be like that are like that at CES, but not that kind of thing, right? In fact, I think it'd be more likely for Nvidia to announce that at CES with a bunch of partners that are shipping soon. You saw a lot of that. I mean, that's one of the reasons Panther Lake was so successful is they're like, and it will be available in Acer and AIS and all these devices, Dell, that are shipping today.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Like you could start ordering, or not shipping today, but you could start ordering them right away. Because at the back end, CES is a trade show. The majority of what happens there is companies talking to each other about how to supply each other with things and solve each other's problems. Yeah, it's easy for us to assign all the public facing parts of it and go, well, this is all for us. This is one of those shows. E3 was like that. It was an industry show that just slowly became more and more available to us through, various means of exposure. If anything, you might even argue that
Starting point is 00:48:05 what killed CES, or sorry, what killed E3 may have been our expectations for how much we were being served by it versus just it being kind of insider industry stuff or Walmart executives sitting down with Sony executives, which is all it really was for. And they used to have no real public end of it other than we just get news trickle down later.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So it's interesting to see how, you know, CES, no sign of slowing down, but how they kind of balance that. that stuff. I'm really glad you were there. Did you see anything that you were like, with this same thinking of this is all iterative, sometimes we just look back and see the innovation, but we don't always see it year to year or whatever. Did something happen where you're like, oh, that's going to stick around in four years, I'll bet we're talking about that again. It wasn't like AI or these things everyone's shoving down our throats.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah, and a word about AI. I think I've made it this far without saying those two letters next to each other. Because they They are, they're useful as a large category like PC. When you're like, oh, I want to talk about all this group of technologies. You know, when I, I want to distinguish that I'm talking about laptops and desktops and minis versus phones. Then I say PC. But when I want to tell you something useful, I say it's a Dell or it's an AIS or it's an alien wear. With AI, I try to focus on the fact that there's lots of different products that go under
Starting point is 00:49:31 that umbrella. And one of the things I was heartened by, well, there was no lack of companies trying to throw AI on their stuff to be like, and AI, dot, dot, dot. I found there was less of that this year than in the past. And I think the companies that really were doing it right weren't saying AI, they were saying, you know, we have an adjustable feature that will detect when you're doing this, or use computer vision to do that because it's a good feature and I think that's the better way to go about it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 So I think there's a lot of that especially those kinds of smarts being put into robots that in five years we're going to be blown away by. That really seems to be I go back to the robot thing I know, but that seems to be where companies are a lot of companies, especially Chinese companies, are putting their efforts
Starting point is 00:50:22 is how can we take the features we've developed that are really good at understanding the world around them, whether it's computer vision or large language models, and use them in physical situations where they can now see and hear and understand. And so, you know, you had a couple of people, Switchbot and LG, both showing off robots that could fold laundry. And while that would be useful, you can look at those robots and go like, that seems kind of clunky. It'd be faster if I'd just do it myself. Right now, the point is they can do it, right? This is not, this is not ginned up they're able to look at clothing pick it up manipulate it and and fold it
Starting point is 00:51:02 and that's only going to get better and better and in five years not only will they be able to fold the laundry but they'll be able to do a lot of other things because they can sense the world around like they can do my laundry that's what i want yeah exactly right sure you want them you want them to be able to go know what your laundry is know what dirty is versus clean rabbit take it put it in the in the the wash, come back when it's done, fold it, and you don't have to intervene, right? That's the dream. Better yet, have them open the door in the front, put the wash in, it's all part of them, right? And then when they need to dry, you get jam it in the back for the dryer.
Starting point is 00:51:37 At some point, you don't even need a separate machine. They're just able to do it. This is what I want. They come out fresh and folded, smelling sweet. Well, good luck to both LG and Samsung and will surely tackle that market at some point. Switch bot. There you go. Switchbot. No, LG and Switchbot were the ones who showed off the home.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And I only threw it in there because I feel bad for SwitchBut that everybody's like, yeah, LG and then all these other names. They're like, switchbot was the other one. Everyone forgets who they are. No, I feel like I suppose Samsung and LG have done a good job of marketing because you do think of them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. At least I do. Well, this is great. Now, I know there's a ton of content to consume around this via DT&S and all this other. stuff. Is there anything in particular you'd like to send people off with today so they can get the most out of it? Yeah, I know probably most of the folks who are interested followed our coverage every day. We were doing live shows from Daily Tech News show from the show floor, Central Hall every day. But there's a bunch of other stuff coming out that we recorded there.
Starting point is 00:52:42 For instance, Rob Dunwood caught up with an old Blackberry blogger friend of his crackberry Kevin. And so we've got an interview coming out this. weekend of Rob and him just kind of reminiscing about the old days of Blackberry blogging. And then Kevin is actually part of this clicks product, which brings a physical keyboard back to a phone. And so they talk about that as well. That's coming into DTNS this weekend. I've got a interview up on the Daily Tech News Show YouTube channel, if you haven't checked that out yet, about a blockchain company that saved kimchi, possibly saved all of South Korea by saving kimchi because it's so important. I saw that swing by my inbox and I haven't read it yet, but I'm
Starting point is 00:53:27 grateful. It's a YouTube video. It's an interview. So you'll just have to watch me talk to Dami On. She is the founder of this blockchain company, but they do food provenance. It's not a, not a cryptocurrency thing. She was one of the early Ethereum developers, and she has created this company to help people track things in supply chains. And they were able to do it for kimchi when there was a kimchi scare about, you know, kimchi that had gone bad and was causing bacterial infections. And so people weren't eating it in restaurants. And she was able to use her company to let people feel assured, no, this is safe to eat. You can eat the kimchi again. Thank goodness. Somebody think of the kimchi. I hope they do and never forget. I love kimchi,
Starting point is 00:54:10 as you know. As we know. Oh, as we know. As we know. Tom Merritt, it's always good to talk to you, sir. I hope you have a fantastic week. Get a little rest from your. from your crazy coverage and continue on down the road of fantastic tech news and quality programming. Thank you, sir. Good to see you both. Talk to you soon. I know. Oh, and you'll see Tom at, how does Marvel do it? Tom Merritt will return. We'll return. Nerdtacular, 2026. That's right. Yes. Is everyone in those movies in this upcoming movie, the Doomsday? They're all in it, right? Is everyone? I mean, uh, Kang won't be in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I think I feel pretty confident saying we won't get Kang. Yeah. I feel like you're right. But I think we're going to see. I think we're going to see everyone because, I mean, obviously they're bringing back folks like Chris Evans and R.D.J., obviously. Will they bring back, you know, characters like... Like Thanos?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Is he coming around? Probably not. I feel like Thanos, well, Thanos is headless. He is, right? but is a, you know, alternate timelines bullshit they're going to do. Right. That's true. Because, I mean, you even see Thanos fighting Dr. Strange as the Illuminati in madness,
Starting point is 00:55:29 multiverse of madness. Possibly, I feel like, I feel like there's, you know, they're going to, there's a certain level that they're going to bring back. I don't think we're going to get Harry Styles as Star Fox or Pat Nosswalt's, uh, uh, uh, uh, oh pip i think we're probably like to see those guys but i'm sure we're going to see some of guardians again at least the guardians of the galaxy that got kind of established at the end of three which is like grout rocket warlock uh uh some weird kid you know some of those characters mantis i think um but probably you know maybe not star lord maybe not gomora i don't know yeah i don't know either. I don't know what to expect, but it just feels like they're going like, all right,
Starting point is 00:56:19 James Marsden, welcome back. I saw something yesterday. Will we get Evangeline Lilly, for example? Well, yeah, definitely getting Marsden. But will we get Evangeline Lilly as the Wasp after her, she fainted on a beach last year and face planted into a rock and is now suffering from traumatic brain injury? Yeah, heard about that. deficit you know I assume it's been filmed already right maybe she got it before that all happened maybe
Starting point is 00:56:48 no she fell down it was it was July of last year that she oh they weren't done with principal filming then I figured I don't well maybe for a movie that big I maybe not I don't know
Starting point is 00:57:00 you know you say that it's probably I don't remember seeing her name on any of the chairs but obviously we're getting we're getting Ant Man we probably are going to get uh um Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good question. So something about Famke Jansen is back in?
Starting point is 00:57:15 Going to do something with that? Phoenix. Gene Gray. Yeah, I mean, I think here's my expectation. They're going to show us the X-Men original X-Men group, the X-Men universe, and then promptly destroy them with an ins... I will say, insurrection. What do they call that when...
Starting point is 00:57:38 What does Reed Richards... John Krasinski, Reed Richards, described when two universes collide, there is a... I don't care of... Yeah, he gave a term for it. Yes. Right before you get turned into spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Right, exactly. I think we're going to get... Yeah, if you haven't said that one, it's been more than... It's been more than two weeks. Incursion, thank you, Sarah, Sierrean. Encursion, that's it. I think we're going to get...
Starting point is 00:58:02 So we're going to get the James Marsden, the Patrick Stewart Professor X, the Ian McKellen, Magneto, Famca Jansen, maybe even Alan Cummings confirmed. I think we're going to get that X-Men universe, but it's going to be used to demonstrate
Starting point is 00:58:20 the destruction of an incursion. At the same time, it's going to introduce probably the Michael Fastbender, you know, like the first class group as the maybe the X-Men that do make it into the 616. universe. I'd be all right with it
Starting point is 00:58:41 character-wise. I like, or actor-wise, I like all those guys. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, they're not as close to retirement as Patrick Stewartney and McKellen and, and those two are well past it. Those two are done, you know, they've, I'm amazed that they got them for this, even for the
Starting point is 00:58:57 trailer deal, but, um, so I don't know. That's, it's all speculation on my part. But I think, I feel like what we're seeing in that little snippet trailer with Marsden and the Sentinels and Professor X and Magneto
Starting point is 00:59:15 is them accepting the fact that their universe is about to come to an end and and while Magneto and Professor X are taking it like well it's been a good run old friend Cyclops is pissed that it's he's not happy about it he's now going to be that young kid that nobody remembers the actor who played him in the first class series
Starting point is 00:59:37 yeah well so so no Do you think odds on Kelsey Grammer is beast? What do you think in the movie? Very good odds based on, you have not seen the Marvels yet, right? No, I haven't seen the Marvels. Yeah, I'd say, I'd say a very good chance that Kelsey Grammer at least makes an appearance. With some heavy makeup, because that guy ain't the young chicken anymore. Well, no, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I mean, he's looking like, he's looking like Robert F. Kennedy and the new seasons of Frasier. a little leathery and yeah a little gunt but yeah no that's one of the reasons and there's a few good reasons to see the marvels and the eternals
Starting point is 01:00:21 I think those are the two you still haven't seen yet right those are the only two I think yeah oh and the was Ant Man and Wasp I still haven't seen Oh still haven't seen Ant Man the Wasp
Starting point is 01:00:30 okay well you'll get the introduction of Ghost who you really liked in Thunderbolts I did like Ghost yeah I'm not happy how it all went though I'm not happy with how things went for Taskmaster. I'll say that.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Oh, I hated that. I really liked Thunderbolts. And it didn't ruin it for me. But man, you're just going to go like that? I know. I know. And Taskmaster is such a great character in the comics. It's like, oh, give us more.
Starting point is 01:00:55 This feels like a, you know, decision. Maybe the actress just was like, yeah, I don't want to play this character anymore. Wild. I really like what they were going on. Maybe we'll get another taskmaster later on. Yeah, they got a chance here to shake the thing up and go, here's a bunch of stuff falling out of universes. maybe we'll keep this one. Totally.
Starting point is 01:01:10 But obviously all the Thunderbolts will return in Doomsday. So we'll get more Florence Pugh. We'll get more of Lily Allen's favorite ex, David Harbor. Yeah. She wrote an entire album. Her brand new album is all disc tracks for David Harbor. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Well, no safe harbor there. Brian, I'm going to play a call before we leave. Please do. Some of our feedback. This is about the jugs of pee. This is from, it's our new, you know, our new clip. This is Bob the Mailman. Speaking of Cliff Clavin, his former mailman,
Starting point is 01:01:50 he has this to say about how some mail stuff works. This is Bob the Mailman, Cliff Clavon's ex-mailman. About leaving a package at your mailbox, you can go on USPS.com and request a pickup and then leave it by your door instead of out at the street and they'll come pick it up. When a mailbox fills up, though, we usually take it all back to the post office, leave you a note that you need to come pick it up at the post office because your mailbox is full.
Starting point is 01:02:14 That's what I usually do. Okay. That makes sense to me. I didn't know the pickup thing was an option, though. I had no idea. No, I like that. And just, you know, like I was thinking I'd leave a note in the mailbox that says package at door to pick up, please. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. I like that. News to me and Brian. Thank you. Keith from Maine will return an Avengers Doom day. That needs to be. be a show title, Jay. Darrell. Daryl Skeels will return. We should do this
Starting point is 01:02:40 with all our ex-people. Gidgett von Leroux will return an adventurer's DoomJy. Justin Robert Young. Veronica Bell. So many. Oh, so many. Well, there you go. That is the show. And if you'd like to send a voicemail like that in, you can use voicecast.com.com slash
Starting point is 01:02:56 TMS. Really easy. It's also linked on the website. You can send voicemails, text. The email is there as well. Lots of ways to contact us and no reasons not to. Please keep those coming. It's going to do it for today. Ryan, let's play a song and leave these people to their various doings. I like that idea a lot. K. K. Katsumi wrote in and said,
Starting point is 01:03:15 Kind of late request, I keep forgetting to send it. Nothing special comes to mind. So Covermaster's choice is I just won a nice pick-me-up song from last year's Orange Lead BS extravaganza. Don't we all want that? So I don't know if K. Katsumi is having a birthday, but whatever the reason, I'm happy to do it. And she says a song style similar to within temptation surprise me. Nice.
Starting point is 01:03:39 So that kind of hard-edged orchestral rock, or orchestral metal, which I really, really like. How about this one right here? It's very similar. It's crazy because I know her. She's a local and she never seems like the metal type. I know. Yeah. But I love this about her.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I think this is amazing. So I can't wait to hear it. For sure. So how about some lacuna coil? that should fit. Here is, enjoy the silence their cover of Depeche Mode.
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