The Morning Stream - TMS 2972: Salmon Hands

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

The Cat Came Back. She's got neon shamrock eyes. It's Ours! We Invented It! Flav o Flavocol. Popcorn Boogers. Captain Invoice. I want to be a cursed 3D printed object. I Did a Thing. You can smell rice!! Raiders of the Lost Ibbott. I'm Not Buying The Blush. Happly Apply Day. What If Myself Into A Corner. Clean and Functional like a black website. Going back to the Pitt with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In space, no one can hear you scream. You also can't dance or build Lego. But on Earth, you can do all that. Plus, support us here at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning's dream, the cat came back. She's got neon sham rock eyes. It's ours. We invented it. Flavo flavicle. Popcorn boogers. Captain Invoice. I want to be a cure-cursed 3D printed object. I did a thing! You can smell rice!

Raiders of the Lost Ibit. I'm not buying the blush. Happily Appley Day. What if myself into a corner? Clean and functional like a black website. Going back to The Pit with Dan and more on this episode of the morning stream. She said a bowel movement came out of him as long as from her fingertips to her elbow, as big around as her forearm.

She said that once it was in the toilet, they couldn't flush it down. Her husband had to get a shovel out of the garage and chop it up. up. So get ready. The countdown to June 13th has begun. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream. My name is Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hello, and I am the new budget-friendly Apple Iibbit. Oh yeah, look at you. Celebrating Apple Day.

I like that. Yeah. Supposed to be, so I forgot to tell you this last week. I went in to get our phones replaced finally because I put it off forever. Yeah, get the new 17. Yeah, because we're on the yearly

and we just got busy in funerals, my mom, all that. So we just never got time to get in there. So we go in there to do it. And our same guys there always helps us and he's awesome. And I said, hey, man. He goes, hey, and his name's Devin. And he says, he says, I bet you're here finally for your phone.

swap and I said yeah I think it's time and he goes it may not be time and I said why is that he says next week so this is a week ago he goes next week I think it's Tuesday Apple's doing an event where the rumor is they're going to shadow launch their first foldable phone and do it mid-gen uh meaning you know between the year yeah and that the new cadence will be the foldables in uh spring spring and then and fall you get your regular regular mainline business. And he says it seems really, really, really, what's the word? He says these rumors coming from what I'm hearing in the places he talks to within Team Mobile as a carrier.

Yeah. He says, I'm pretty sure they're doing something. So just wait a week. And then if it doesn't materialize, come in here and swap them anyway. And so that's what we're going to do. It did not materialize. Yeah. I mean, it's going to happen today.

Do we know? I don't know. They haven't announced anything yet, have they? No. No, I thought that they just. just announced a cheaper, like the 17E is the only thing that really... Oh, I thought they hadn't even done anything yet. Have they already talked?

Have they already done a... I thought that they'd already talked. And I didn't find out... I found out about it until... I'm sorry, I found out when D-brand announced... New iPad and budget iPhone 17E, I believe it is. Let's see. Everything Apple announced today...

Oh, you're right. Okay. Oh, well, it's already, I thought this thing hadn't happened yet. Yeah, 17E was announced yesterday. MacBook Air today, new MacBook Pro, new MacBook Air, new studio display. And the new airs are all G5 or M5s, right? Yeah, M5 Pro. Okay.

Yeah, so. Well, I guess I can go in and get my phone swapped. There you go. It's a bummer. It's not affordable, though. I mean, I've been excited to see what Apple does in that space, but... Yeah, you've got to figure their work. working on something. I just, the way, the way they usually do things is they, they let the rest of

the industry deal with fold issues and breakage and all the problems that come around this stuff. And then they swoop in at the end and go, now that, now that it's kind of perfected, here's ours. And we've invented it. We invented it. Yeah. So, but they, but the point is they, they, they're kind of right in that they hold up at that stage. You just had to wait a lot longer and pretend that Apple invented it. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm hoping that also the thing that gets announced or release this week, and it's not going to be one of these big showcasing things, but for the last three or four weeks,

their solo loop bands. Like I like the silicone solo loop. This is one of the ones that just clasps. Oh, yeah, I like those. But they've been impossible to find. The only ones at the local Apple stores, you know, Tina goes off to Alta or something like that, I'm like, I'll pop into the Apple store because that's what we do. That's mad.

Sure. And I go on and say, hey, what color solo loops do you have? Because the one I have is dark blue and there's a tear in the middle of it. And I know that if I wear it for too long, the tear is just going to get bigger and it's going to pop off my wrist at an inappropriate time. And they're like, oh, yeah, sure, they pull out their phone. Wow. Only thing we have in every size and every band length is blush. which is like a weird pink store or pink color.

Yeah. And then they say, well, usually what that means is Apple's about to come out with a new set of colors and a new set of solo loops. So I would wait, don't buy the blush now. I'm like,

don't worry. I'm not buying the blush. Yeah. You're not into the blush, as it turns out. Not into the blush. But so we'll see. Maybe,

let's see. Let's hopefully see that, you know, along with all these really cool new things, they just quietly say, oh, yeah. by the way, we also have some new solo solo loop bands. You think these packs they do have like,

here's an eight pack for the ultra? These ones you get on Amazon? I look at those. Like 20 bucks for eight of these? That seems like these are going to be shit, right? You know, I've had good luck. I bought a metal, magnetic black metal one on Amazon for, you know, a tenth of the price that Apple charges for it.

And it was fine. Really? Yeah. So I could easily just go the right. out of going, you know what, I'll just take a solo loop 8-pack. I mean, you and I could go in on a solo loop apex, divide the eight between the two of us. Yeah, pick our favorites. Pretty good, exactly.

Yeah, it's not a bad idea. I might try it. My, my, uh, my ultra came with is a good band, but it's starting to wear, starting to wear out. So I got figured out. I don't know. Anyway, happily, happy Apple day. No foldables, I guess I'm going to, I'm going to team mobile in the Costco. Wee. Yeah, exactly. All right. We did, I did a thing. Okay. All right. Tell me the thing you did. Kim and I, Kim's really good at this. I have a harder time with it. I look at my phone and go, do I need all these apps and I usually don't, right?

It's a bunch of stuff I don't need or even in some cases stuff I use but shouldn't. Like, do I need an X on here? Do I need freaking Instagram? I really don't, you know, on my phone anyway. Like maybe. You're so much better at this than I am. So, yeah. So there it is. On my phone. and I'm like, I kind of feel like clearing some of this off.

And Kim goes, yeah, me too. And she just goes in and deletes Instagram without even thinking, Pinterest without even thinking, just starts deleting these apps. And I says, it says to where I says. I go, why are you doing that? She says, because they're just distractions and they're a waste of time. And I went, how do you have that kind of, like, I don't have that. I always wear it and go, well, no, now if I need.

But what if I go? what if I beep, beep, what if myself into a corner, about things I need to have access to. And she's like, nah, you don't need it, and deletes it. How is that? Why can't I do that? But then, yeah, it's a whole other thing. But aside from that, here's my question,

does anyone use next door for anything? Like, other than just, oh, did you hear that lady up the road's yelling at somebody or something? You know what I mean? Yes. When a crazy neighbor lady lost. like one of their cats disappeared for three days. We thought, well, he's coyote food. You know, there's no way.

They've lost cats before and the cats have never come back. And so after one day we're like, yep, nope, she put a post up there. We kind of shared it as well or followed it and tracked stuff and kept an eye on people's posts and stuff to see if anyone said, oh, found a brown tabby. That's about the only time I've gone in next door. in the last year. But it worked. They found it. Most of the time.

They worked. They felt. Oh, the cat just came back. The cat had completely unrelated to next door. The cat found his way back home and was fine. I gotcha. Next door. Benjin, 006, almost has it, has it correct.

It's, here's what next door is. Oh, my cat is lost. Please keep an eye out for a brown tabby. Oh, no. That's very sad. I will keep an eye out for it. God bless you, and I hope you find your cat. I'm praying for your cat. Next one is, why do you let your cat outside anyway? You know the area is full of coyotes and another person. You know why the area's full of coyotes? Because Governor Polis let, brought the wolves back to southern Colorado, and that's chased all the coyotes up forward.

That sounds right. That is the level of escalation of a next door. post. Okay. Well, that actually answers my question why I don't need it anymore. You don't need it. I don't need it. I really don't. But I will say, you know, there's some entertainment to be had there. But for the most part, it's just like, why do I have this? So that was an easy one. I get rid of that. Check that out of there. And I was going to ask you, of all the apps on your phone, if you had to do it, someone said to you right now, Brian, delete five apps and you went. Oh, it would be so easy for me because I have so many. Basically, my home screen is everything that I use on a regular basis. Yeah. And then my next page is some things I occasionally use.

And then there is no next page after that. That's great. Just their list of stuff. So basically, if I stop using something, if I think to delete it, I delete it. But chances are I just take it off my home screen. It still resides on my phone. And there are so many times I'm like, oh, yeah, I need to. I need to adjust this, you know, I forget the brand of some app powered light switch or search protector that I bought.

And I looked on the bottom, see the manufacturer, and then I pull it up on my thing. Oh, that's a wise. And then it's like, oh, yeah, downloading your wise app. And the little thing will fills in. So bottom line for me is, I'm not running out of space because it apparently. offloads. I have the thing turned on to offload unused apps. And then

when I do need something, it just really quickly downloads it. And it's like, you know, this works just fine for me. There's never a time that I'm like recording a video that it says you're almost out of storage. Yeah, that never happens to me either. So I just, it's an out of sight, out of mind kind of thing. I just

move, I move apps off the home screen when I don't need them anymore. I think that's a good. I think that's a good idea. I've got this problem where I've got like I got a folder called games to play, not just games. Games I need to get to. Like, once you haven't gotten to. Yeah, and it's just sitting there and I'm not touching them.

There's also old games. One of them is called Pirate Outlaws. I'm never going to play that again, but I'm afraid to delete it because I think, well, what if I did want to play it again? Yeah. It's stupid for me, so I got to just clear this whole out. You're really good at that. Like, I noticed, you know, our TMS folder gets the clear-out treatment all the time. And, um, uh...

Wait, which folder? Or TMS music folder? Or a TMS music folder. Oh, I don't do any of that. Someone else moves that stuff. I don't move those out of there. Oh, really? Like, I'm sorry, not the TMS music folder.

IceWorm does that. But, like, for a while is, like, my recommendals would disappear the day after we do the show. Oh, right, right, right, right. And these would be cleared out. And, like, you know, long, worst-go clips. Especially files. Like, I am a hardcore desktop. I wish I could do this with my actual office.

Yeah. I'm so orderly. Yeah. With files, tab usage even. I get real weird about it. I don't know what that comes from. I get very meticulous about computer storage and where everything is and that it's all labeled properly and all this sort of stuff.

But I don't do it with my phone. My phone's just a nightmare. It's interesting, yeah. I don't know. I should delete like, I don't know. What is this? What even is flip-flop plus? I don't know what that is.

It's probably some game where you have to flip things or something. I don't know. Yeah, like there's just a ton of crap on here. I don't know what it is. So whatever. I'll get better at it. But Kim was just like, yeah, I don't need Instagram. It's just distracting me. Is that okay? See, and that's another good use for it. It's like, oh, man, why do I keep this, you know, I keep playing this game because it's right on my home screen.

Why do I even bother with it? And so I'll delete it and be like, oh, well, there we go. There's a nice little distraction-free thing. Yeah. And sometimes I'll be like, keep data just in case. Just in case. Come back to this game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The data part, that part I do usually do. If I even know if I had to delete a game, I'm like, can you ever know if I'm going to come back to it. probably never will probably never will i've come back to games you know what game i come back to are those dumb um oh man i could find them if i had to but it's the games where you've got the it's almost like breakout but um you are aiming your ball and it no matter where it lands down below you don't have to have a paddle that catches it it just stops wherever it lands down below right so it bounces

around destroys a few blocks and then you aim it somewhere else and destroy a bunch of blocks that are all coming closer to you and a tan something like that something tan oh uh yeah i don't think i have it now but i know the game i was thinking you were talking about that uh ball x pick game that came out last year but not that oh yeah no uh um yeah there's a it's uh let's see if i can find it now that i remember it has tan in the name it's a card card crawl solitaireica and motion or Potion, what's that one going? No, what is this called? Anyway, there's a couple of games where I just love

A Miracle Merchant where you make the potions for people. There's a couple of games that are still like premium games. They're not some free-to-play bullshit that are just great. They're great games, so I keep them, but I just don't play them. Dude, I still, I still, well, obviously it needs to be downloaded. But look at that.

Motion Quest or Poker Quest for Motion X, which no way, there's no way that's going to download. It's gone. Like Flappy Bird. I still have Flappy Bird for that reason. I don't want to lose it. Yeah. Because it's long gone.

It ain't in the store anymore. I hope we need to do a quick wellness check on Stephanie. Stephanie, you're doing okay with all this? Oh, she's, her eyes have rolled into the back of her head. Back of her head. She's now like a zombie. She's like a pre-cog. Use her while you can, everybody.

Exactly. That sounds terrible. Hey, the fans have spoken, Brian. Tell me what they've spoken. What words have they said? Yeah. So, boy, I talked about, does, anybody even really use quicktms.l.li anymore and my gosh dms messages on uh email and other methods

people reached out and be like oh no we i totally use it at the you know i go there if there's a song i really like it's great that you have a way to get to that um bobby said you know sometimes i'll forget when um what movies or tv shows you guys have recommendled and i'll go there and check those out after I've finished a series, finished binging something. That's great. So it's back. It never left is what I'm trying to say. It's back in pog form.

It's back and better than ever in pog form. But yeah, so it, don't worry. It's here. And after we talk with Dan, there's a bunch of links to all of his, all the games he's going to recommend. It's going to be a big,

a big day for Dan. Big day for Dan. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if we've ever had a bigger day for Dan. I don't know if we have either. There are so many games he's going to talk about. You and I are going to basically have to just shut up for like 20 minutes and let him cook.

That's right. So bookmark that shit. QuickDMS.L.I. Get in there. That's right. That's right. Still working on the redesign. But right now it is at what I call a clean, functional level where every post, it's basically every day is a post. And you'll have the song and then you'll have whatever else we talked about if there are links.

So, and it still works though if you want to say, oh, only show me recommendals. You click the tab at the top and it'll only show you posts that have recommendals in them. Nice. Yeah, I just was getting really tired of the weird. There was like a weird visual bug where it was showing the previous audiobook for the new audiobook link for Redfraggle or it was showing a previous song album cover and blah, blah, blah. Sure. Well, we're on our way to better times. We are. We are definitely on our way better time. So quicktms.L. Nice. Let's do some quick news before we get to said Dan, who's coming up here in a bit. Here you go. It's time for the news and it's brought to you by. Live on Quick on Kickstarter all month. Lichen, Solomon's Odyssey Chapter 4. Lichen is award-winning graphic novel series about the world's first werewolf, horror, mythology, and adventure all in one. In chapter 4, Solomon heads to ancient Egypt searching for.

a cure seeking help from the gods themselves, but he'll face new weaknesses, bloodthirsty monsters, and plenty of chaos along the way. Find it on Kickstarter or head to Lycanbook.com. That's L-Y-C-A-N-book.com. Nice. I'd love to hear when you guys are making cool projects.

It's very cool. And help promote them on the show. Yeah. Happy to do it. You hear the sad news about essential tremor passing away. I don't know if you ever met him. No, no, but I remember us looking for, like we were trying to find. him and uh yeah so mostly mostly on the wow side of things the instance and stuff and he was very active in our guild up until recently and then just disappeared one day and nobody could find him and

we had no contacts and so there was a big as good as search as we could do was yeah enacted and then found out finally found out that uh that he had passed it was super sad i hate it when we lose one of our own i don't like it for sure um i don't like it was he was he older was he older guy yeah i want to say 60s, I think. You know, as we start getting older Scott, it's going to happen more and more to us. I don't like it. I remember this thing when I was growing up, my mom would be like, yeah,

I'm lost another one. Yeah, you go look in the paper and you find out what, you know, all your friends are dying. Basically, you go down the obituary list with a red Sharpie and say, oh, yeah, okay, knew her, new him, new him. It becomes like the crossword puzzle for them. They like, they like seeing that.

And I'm like, I think that's horrible. I don't want all my old people are weird. All right. Let's get to this story about an Irish hospital panic. Okay. They freaked out over there. They went, ah!

There's a mom's eyes, so this mom is in there. Her eyes turned alien fluorescent green after the eyedrops they gave her. Oh, geez. Okay. We got photos of this. Where can I get these?

Oh, really? Oh, gosh. I'll see. The problem I have of these photos is they're, it's really hard to tell. Yeah. If that's real or not. Right.

It easily could be doctored. It could be. This is on, by the way, this comes to us via the Irish Star. I don't know what that website is. I don't know that. Sounds like it might be a newspaper, the Irish star. Yeah, like it might be a rag of some kind. I love this name.

Derek McDunner. Yeah. And Gavin Quinn. These are real Irish people for sure. Yeah, for sure. Anyway, Mother of Three has recounted her astonishment upon receiving her discovering rather that her eyes had transformed into her florist and green shade after a mishap during a visit at a Galway hospital. Margarita Wargola.

Wow. Sure. I had a, one of my alts was a Wargola. Wow. Yeah, and they got rid of that class for some reason. I don't know why. It's too bad. It's a bummer.

Yeah. Maybe they'll bring it back. They were good of hunting. I was playing last night. They have a new version of, uh, um, uh, sorry, Shadow Moon, the city for the Blood Elves. Oh, okay. It's a whole zone now, and it is in this expansion.

Completely redone. It's like not even close to what used to be. It's incredible. Really? Visually, you're like, what in the hell am I looking at? I'll have to, I saw you post it on Twitch. I'll have to go and watch it. That's wild, man.

Yeah. Anyway, she says, this Margarito Wall, Wargola, describe the chaos that ensued following the blunder, ultimately leaving the hospital medical staff and facility and making her way home with glowing yellow eyes, yellow green eyes reminiscent of a horror film. They say, the artist and photographer originally from Poland

turned to social media to document her experience in the immediate wake of the incident. This is not a filter, she declared in the video clip, displaying her luminous green eyes. Mrs. Wargola revealed that the nurse had neglected to inquire whether she was wearing contact lenses prior to the administering of the drops, which contaminated her lenses with fluorescent dye.

So that's what it was. It reacted with her lenses. With her probably colored contacts, right? Yeah. Which is the part she didn't really get into the colored part. She just said that they reacted here or contaminated them. I mean, there's some stuff on the newest season of the pit where they inject some fluorescent dye. I guess it's UV dye that you have to look at under UV light to see if there's a leak that's going out through somebody's wound.

But different thing. Waiting for those to pile up. I'm going to binge like hell. We were. And then we said we just can't wait any longer. I don't blame you, dude. I know it's so good. You got like a head start though.

So you got some piled up. We've got eight episodes. Let's just get into it. All right. Cool. Yeah. We've done that before. We're like,

we're going to wait until it's done. We're going to avoid spoilers. And then usually don't. We finished the traitors. Ellen Cummings. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's a traitor in your mist. And there's some kind of controversial.

around that? Somebody won that cheated or there was something going on with that, right? I mean the guy, the person who won without being ugh, yeah, I kind of don't want to I want to be careful about spoiling it for anybody that hasn't watched, but the person who won did use some very

fully allowed within the rules but nefarious methods. Interesting. Yeah, I read something. So it wasn't that they cheated. they just, no, they just were a little skeevy in there. They just were,

they just were, they did some things that if, if this is the way this person is in real life, then, uh, then, uh, then,

I don't want to, I don't want to know him. Yeah. I don't want to know that guy. Yeah. Well, anyway, uh,

make sure you tell your doctor you have contact. Watch your, watch your eye drops, I guess. Yeah. You don't want to be green. Also, where can I get fluorescent dye for my eyes. Yeah.

I mean, if it didn't, it sounds like, It sounds like it didn't hurt her and she left. Yeah, why not? I mean, dang. Wear that for a while. Just a color thing.

You look like Mountain Dew Lady. Or what was the Futurama episode? The slurm episode. She's got slurm in her. She's got slurm in her. Yes, for sure. Scientists have created tomatoes that smell like popcorn. Okay.

Finally something we've really needed. I feel like I like the tomato smell, but okay. Yeah, I don't know why you'd want to do this. But anyway, scientists in China have developed gene editing tomatoes or edited tomatoes that produce a distinctive popcorn-like aroma. That would just make me not want to eat your tomato, by the way. Yeah. Unless you fooled me.

And here's the thing. Is it a popcorn smell or is it a butter smell? Because most of the time when people are like, oh, my gosh, that popcorn smells good. What they're smelling is the butter smells good. Yeah. The popcorn itself, what order does that even have without butter? It's got a little bit of one. Like, I've smelled, when I worked in the movie theater, we do the popcorn.

you know, long before we added butter to it. Actually, I don't think we wouldn't even add anything to it until the customer asked for it. But there was some seasoning flavacol or something that we would put into that metal. So you've got your big clear bin of popcorn and then the metal thing, you put your oil in there, you put your popcorn in there.

And then you also put in a scoop of what's called flavacol. Not to be confused with flava flavacol. No, very different. You have to swallow a whole clock. That's right. But then it would come out. It would have a smell that would attract people. And then you'd add the fake butter, that gooey motor oil to it to serve it.

That they call butter. Yeah. Yeah. At least Alamo. We'll say this about Alamo. They use real butter. And this is how you know. If you don't finish that popcorn before it cools,

you have a coagulated slurry at the, bottom of your bowl of old maids and butter. It's not, it's actually pretty gross, which is, I assume this is partly why they don't use real butter and a lot of, a lot of popcorn.

Yeah. So it's good to know that, that if you're going to go natural or have the real stuff, you're going to end up with like, you know, boogers at the end. Finish it quick.

I mean, that's, you know, they offer free, free refills. We've never done unlimited refills on popcorn. The crazy neighbors have. But we haven't.

And so I'd say, you know, if you're going to do, if you get it to the point where it's starting to cool off and your butter's starting to coagulate, just ask for a new bowl. They'll bring it to you. I'll bet your crazy neighbors have put like, uh, what's that?

What's that? CBD oil. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Probably. Seems like something David try. Speaking of oils, this is a funny story.

I wasn't going to tell, but I'll tell it now. See this right here, this bottle? This is a, uh, salmon oil. Yeah, salmon oil. Yeah, salmon. Put it in your, your dog's food. It's good for their fur. That's if your salmon squeaks.

Yeah. If your salmon's a little squeaky, apply some salmon oil. Here's the funny thing. That bottle looks an, well, to me, without seeing the front of it. Oh, no. And where it was positioned in the kitchen, it looked an awful lot like hand soap. So I reached over. Its proximity to the sink was not favorable.

It really shouldn't be right there. That push top on the top would make me think that it's, yeah, absolutely. And it was extended, like, and that one's locked in, but it was extended up. And I went, and then wash my hands. And I went, what does the smell? Lathering up Why are my hands Like yeah

There's no lather A B The water was not cutting through it Like it was like Really oily And I grabbed the thing And look at it And I'm like I put salmon oil on my hands

We have to have a talk We have to have family meeting Because that shouldn't be where that was Yeah It's too bad the word oil Is it prominent on that Yeah it's too bad It's not the hugest font ever

But yeah I didn't see the front And I was in such a rush I just went Yeah! It smelled like fish. I've an urge to swim upstream. It smelled like dead fish,

but it's all good now. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Tomatoes smell like popcorn. Oh, yeah. Tomatoes smell like popcorn.

The main thing is it's like, they say it's a, it's, so the way they did it is that literally they made it more like popcorn by increasing the levels of two acetyl one prior pol poline. I'm sure that's right.

This is a natural compound associated with the scent and fragrance of rice and buttered popcorn. So a little bit of rice too. You can smell rice. You can smell rice is right. It says here. Oh, there it is.

It says, the work aims to improve flavor and scent, which often decline after tomatoes are harvested and transported. Yeah, but make it smell more like a fresh tomato and less like somebody who's making popcorn. Exactly. Tomato smell is nothing wrong with the smell of a tomato. It's subtle,

but it's especially like a fresh, freshly cut airloom. Oh, hell yeah, dude. I'm with you. I don't know what they're doing over there in China. But do it different. Yeah. All right, we are...

Tomatoes smell like popcorn. They're not supposed to smell like popcorn. I just think if I smelled a popcorn smell of the tomato, it would actually be concerned and I wouldn't eat it. Yeah, no, exactly. Kim, these tomatoes smell like they've gone bad. What happened? All right.

Time for this. Here's a tangent for him. Woo! Be careful. May he cause drowsiness. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome one Dan Patrice to the program. Hello, Dan. Greetings programs. Hey, man.

Hello. It's so good to talk to you guys. Feels like, yeah. Can we, can I back up for a couple of stories for you? You can back up as far as you want. Back that truck up. All right. So first of all.

Glowy eyeball stuff is I'm guessing what you're going to back up to. Yeah. We're going back to the pit too because I got some cool stuff. But just, okay. So let me just tell you, as somebody that, it's more so as somebody that's more in contacts for like 40 years. The first thing you think about with contacts, if somebody's going and put a drop in your eye, the first thing you think about is, hey, is this okay since I wear contacts?

I don't even have to be a health care provider to know that if somebody's going to throw something in your eye, you're like, you're going to ask. I feel like you should ask, yes. For sure. Yes. But maybe she was just like, oh, they must know what they're doing here in Ireland. You know? Right.

And it also kind of couldn't it to go along with that. that my my little bit of a tip here for you uh just a tip is that it's early march now and i know that not everywhere is snowing so if you are in certain areas of the country you may not see the green and yellow crap everywhere but it's starting to be out there and that sometimes is the most like irritating to some people not everybody but to some people like uh you're talking allergies and yeah i'm talking palin allergies okay now if you're somebody which i like to recommend. If you're somebody who only uses, you know, the allergy

medication as far as your satirazine or, you know, your Lauradity and satircine, well, things like XerTech or the not the over-counter stuff, but the prescription stuff. A lot of them are over-the-counter as far as the tablet go. Almost all of them nowadays are over-the-counter. It's just

maybe the strengths are a little bit different and sometimes, in many cases, it's the exact same. If you're somebody who only takes the oral medications during allergy season, you may want to start gearing up before it gets too bad, because sometimes you want to get your histamine just a little bit lower, and that does help to start a little bit. That way during the season, you know, you're a little bit better.

Because I can kind of tell that it started down here in the south, because we keep getting this very, you know, very North Carolina will have two days ago is 75, and today it's 40. So this is what happens in North Carolina a lot. And you're starting to already get some of that invisible stuff. And within the next week or two, it'll be yellow everywhere. It'll be insane. So you might want to get ahead of it.

It would be my recommendation to people, there if you do normally take it. And like I said, I always recommend that people don't take it every day of the year so that it does work. And a lot of times rotate your anhystamines too, you know, for a few months or year to year. How often, just as a related question, I think it's weird that when I was younger, I would get hay fever certain times of the year, basically just really bad allergies. We called it hay fever. Yeah, absolutely. But why do I not get any of that now? I get none of that now. Many times, there's a few different reasons. Well, I know you've probably live close to where you grow up.

So sometimes, like me, I went from Long Island to North Carolina. And right away, when I first came down here, it was really bad. And then your body does acclimate quite a bit, two different areas. And as you get older, not only do you acclimate, but sometimes your responses aren't quite what they were when you were kids. I think, I mean, we like to think that when we're 10 or 15, we've been around forever. But really, your body is very, very new to a lot of this stuff. So it's like a... I don't know. It's like anything. You move to you just, you're in new environs,

and those environs have different levels of stuff and your body hasn't, yeah, you're just not used to it. Exactly. Yeah. And sometimes you'll have different types of pollens, whereas some people may be worse with grasses or certain types of trees and things like that. So you'll have a lot of different, like I said, I don't know how far you are from where you grow up, but you may still have different trees there that you weren't exposed to constantly from where you grew up. We had this kid in our neighborhood who was like 12 to 16 when we knew him. and he was deathly allergic to peanuts.

Just one of those cases where if you opened a bag of peanuts in the room, he would have, he would immediately have reactions. It was bad. And so we were always having to be really careful

about what he ate, a couple times, something slipped through a little piece of a brownie or something, had peanut oil in it, had him go to the ER as this kid around the corner.

We were always trying to watch out for him. He turns around 18, 19, and his peanut allergy, gone. Really? Never had it again. He's an adult now. I mean, he's in his 30s or something.

But he's never, you can just no problem. He can eat peanuts. He can walk around a five guys and, you know, whatever. How would he find out? Right? Like, he had to obviously. I don't know. I don't know.

He was around and he didn't ever reaction or something. And then he's like, all right. I'm going to nibble. Maybe. Yeah. When he was 19, somebody was eating a peanut butter or a jelly sandwich right next. Somebody was like, huh. It lifted.

It broke the spell. Yeah, I don't know. Very odd. Your body when you hit 18 for whatever reason, I mean, it's, you know, often when you talk about adulthood. But when it comes to a lot of, whether it be disease states or, you know, other things with the reactions of the body, a lot of times your body just kind of changes as you get to adulthood. And again, it gets used to it or doesn't see it as a threat anymore. And what's interesting with peanut allergy, there's a lot of, there's actually shots now monocon antibodies that you can take, which has very, very light amount of that kind of peanut. and it kind of ramps up.

And it's kind of, you know, way to desensitize somebody. And even with things like penicillin allergy, if that drug is going to, you know, not every drug is like this. However, they found that with things like penicillin allergy, if you needed to take a penicillin derivative, basically to save your life, you can desensitize somebody to those allergies. There's like a process to doing this. I mean, it's just fascinating. The body is just, like I said, I always like, we know so much, but we know nothing.

It's kind of how crazy the body is. Yeah, we learned little bits and pieces, but the big picture is pretty wild still. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. So my pit story real quick. So yeah. You remember, so we're all old, you know, and I've been out of pharmacy school now for 25 years.

When I was in pharmacy school, we used to watch ER, and it was pretty cool to watch how realistic a lot of, they went out of their way to be very, very realistic with a lot of the drugs and a lot of the things they were doing. It was one of the first shows that were really that crazy realistic. And now with the pit, it's taking it to even a new level. because I did, you know, rotations through the ER and through different parts of the hospital. And it is, there is so much realism. You'll see there's a million doctors that, you know, they make their living now on YouTube. You can watch some really cool videos of doctors responding, you know, reacting to the realism. You know, the stuff that they kind of fudge a little bit and stuff that they, you know,

fudge for TV reasons. My only complaint, now this is minor and it's very biased because I am a pharmacist. A new hospital, you know, or a very cutting-edge hospital would 1,000% have a pharmacist working in that ear. Now, I haven't watched season two. yet. Season one was great. I don't know if they maybe add a pharmacist or something, but a pharmacist would be pretty much on rotation 24 hours a day working in that ER, whether it be helping the dose, helping to draw up things. A lot of times when they're, you know, needing to give high level, you know, antibiotic stuff at that date. The doctors wouldn't be sitting there going, oh, this is

what we would use this. No, they'd have no idea what those doses are. Even in the ER doc is me like, hey, Dan, I need you to give them, you know, I need you to give them gentemitis and just get his labs and dose it because that's what they do all the time because you want to make sure you know nowadays with collaborative practices how much we have when you're on rotations you've got you know you've got doctors pharmacists nurses you've got people from all disciplines working on those rotations and stuff you know going around on rounds yeah so that's my only complaint but it you know again simplifying it and you can only have so many people on yeah on staff in a show and maybe Pittsburgh they're just like screw those guys you know I don't know

Pittsburgh is a hotbed of pharmacy. I mean, between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is a hotbedder of advanced pharmacy. It's crazy. Really? Yeah, I almost went to, I think Temple is outside of Philly. Philadelphia has its own Philadelphia College of Pharmacy. I think Duquesne is up there. There's a ton of great schools that are right around that whole area.

And even Pitt, I believe, has its own pharmacy schools. So there would be people rotating through like crazy or even on staff, you know, as a full time. I wonder if they just thought they went narratively. It's like they thought it was just less interesting to have a drug expert on hand all the time or something. It's probably just you have to write in reasons to use them. And that kind of becomes problematic when you're writing things. You know, why do you have this person just following you around when you're only going to use them every now and then? You know, and then you have to write the one episode where pharmacists save somebody, you know, stuff like that.

Yeah, that's true. But you know what? Let this producer call Noah Wiley on the phone. I know you have his number and just say, hey, buddy, Dan Patrice, ready for season three of the pit. Let's get you in there. You have to be a consultant. A consultant? Yeah, absolutely.

Great. Yeah, well, that's cool. That's something I didn't notice, but now that you mentioned it, that whole first season, I haven't seen the second yet, but the whole first season had no, no pharmaceutical experts on staff.

Yeah. And so, again, I say how realistic it is. They, of course, they put a lot of the crazy things, you know, that you wouldn't see every day. They had to, like, cover a lot of things that were like, of course someone's an addict. Of course you have.

Yeah. Yeah. Of course, somebody's just diagnosed drug-seeking behavior. And you know, there always has to be one of the staff is going to require the services of like is going to be need to get treated in the ER. Yeah, or yeah, you'll get a call that somebody's head of whatever. Something's relative or an accident or something or whatever. And my favorite thing is that that show says, and because we're HBO, we're also going to have like full-on catheters sticking out of real penises while we're here. Yeah. They're into it.

Oh, yeah. Wait until you watch this season. I've heard rumor. It's got nothing on heated rivalry. Heated rivalry. He's got nothing on this season. Well, anyway, well, let's get to our board games. We got a list, man.

We got a thing going here. Before we do that, Dan, because you've got a Sunday who plays hockey, have you watched any heated rivalry? No, you know what? I saw advertisements for it, and I wanted to check it out, but I don't even know what it's on. So what is HBO? It sounds like HB.

We don't have access to the time. So I'm waiting for all of the pit to be released. There you go. Okay, then you'll sign up and watch them both. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I don't know what's going on when, if that buyout's ever going to happen or if it's going to be folded into Paramount Plus.

I don't know if you guys have news on any of it. Yeah, I said the latest I heard is the, so the executives at Paramount who now have won the bid, so Netflix is no longer in the thing. They're going to make one streaming app for all of it. whether or not it will be called what you know paramount plus or paramax paramax paramax paramax positive parabo max yeah that's a real i mean it's a question of branding issues but they're rolling in they're all going in together yeah yeah it's a lot of good stuff i mean whenever house of the dragon comes back i want i'd love to watch that that new you know uh whatever it is a

game of thrones light whatever that show is oh yeah that i need to finish it but it is very good so far. Oh shit. It's a call. A Night for All Kingdoms. A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, that's it. I need to put that on my list to watch after Fargo. People really like it.

A Night for All Kingdoms, that's probably a hallmark movie. Yeah. That I might have watched in December. Probably. Probably had four different ladies that are always in all of those. Yeah. And Lanterns is coming out to summer, which everybody needs to watch. Oh, yeah, dude.

The Green Lantern Show. I'm so excited. That guy playing John. Stuart is one of my, he's, he's one of my favorite new up-and-comers. I'm so excited. Aaron Pierre. Is that his name? Aaron Pierre? I think so. Yeah, he's got a very thick British accent, but you'd never know it because then, um, what was that one he did with Don Johnson that I liked so much. Yes, that one is excellent. So good. Yeah. Oh, that was good. It was like Rambo, but less mental illness. You know what I mean? It was like, uh, whatever, the breakdown or whatever it is with

the rock. Yeah. Yeah. It was very good. I cannot recommend that one enough. And also, If you even just remotely like Don Johnson in like small evil roles, oh man. He's so good. Knives out. Oh, he is. He's so good. Yeah, he's great. Racist bastard.

Hey, let's get into some games. Let's do it. Let's start with. No way I don't use up all my time just naming them. What I'll do, Brian, Scott and everybody else, I am going to, I will go down my top five games of last year of few different characters, the Johnson games, the Ibit games. and then just my Dungeon Crawlers because I absolutely love all these. We have, coming up, we'll have the Geek All-Stars top 11 because as we know, Brian,

everything's better that goes to 11. Way better, yes. We're going to do the top 11 of last year and we get those by all the different All-Stars, people that have been on a show, former guests, former hosts. Now, the way I did this was just kind of my list for you guys. Now, this is from last year. Now, my fiscal gaming year, we are, I am American, and I think the world revolves us, revolves around us.

So when games come out at Essen a couple years ago, they don't really get to the U.S. until January. So there's going to be a couple of 20, 24, quote, unquote, you know, technically 2024 games on this list. But really, they weren't here until last year. Fair. And there is one that's a total cheat. I'll mention that really quick as you get to it.

So what I'll do is I'll run down those top five. And then you guys, if you want me to mention anything more about one of those, and a lot of these games we have heard about in the past from when I've kind of brought them up. So who would like to, which list would you like to, go first of it. Let's do the, let's do the big thick, fat, heavy games first. Okay, so we got the Brian game. So number five, now these are in kind of, these are five to one order, but honestly,

these games are all so good. You can put any one of them. I tried to tailor it to the person. So Brian, this is one that I kind of mentioned in the past. It's more of a Brian, you know, was the game I think you really need to play. And, you know, I don't, what would you say, can you say off top of your head what the heaviest game you kind of like, the heaviest euro? type game you like?

I mean, probably I probably Gloomhaven. I mean, I know it's not super heavy, but it's... I'm not some like terraforming Mars or any of those type games. Never played, never played the board game version. I played the, um, the, um, the, uh, Oh, the online, the online version, the Steve version, but I'm never played. Like, like Woff Rooms of Arnack or anything like that.

No. Okay. Trying to think of what the game is that we have that has the thickest rulebook. I mean, it might be ghost buzzer. That one's pretty involved. Yeah, but I'm looking more at Euro games rather than kind of those Ameritrash games. Yeah, domestic. Maratrash.

Is that what we're going? Yeah. Well, actually, since nobody likes to put the word trash, we can't offend us, Americans. See, I still say Ameritrash, but it's Ameritrash. Those are basically crazy games where, you know, games where there's just crazy cards and crazy rules. Okay. All right. That's kind of like, you know, I would put Ghostbusters into kind of the Ameritrack type games.

Yeah. It's still a great, great games. games. I say that lovingly. I use that term. I can tell. I can tell you love it. I hear the love. Yeah. Now, these are almost all Euro games. Well, these are all Euro games with different things, different levels. So the heaviest one on our list is actually happens to be number five. That is Galactic Cruz. This is about making their cruise in space. I kind of covered us a few shows ago.

It's actually amazing. It's really good. It's very freaking long. Brian, as much as I think it's a game that you would like, it's going to take you like four hours. So I don't even know if you even want to try it unless you get some, you know, two other people that really go the rules. People that aren't Tina. Exactly. No offense, Tina, sorry. Yeah. The next one, number four, El Paso.

Now, this is a game that is kind of, this is the only game on this list that I think straddles the line between Brian and Scott game, because it is so easy to learn and easy to play. It may be just a little bit heavier than your normal Scott game. But Scott, you would absolutely love it because it is very much a distilling down of Great Western Trail. It's really good. That is El Paso. The next one is Galileo.

That game is great. Again, I think this is a game that Scott would still love, but Brian, you would absolutely love this game. It's kind of like an action selection wheel where you're kind of just exploring space. And as you do an action, it kind of goes to the end of the line. So you have your own what's called like a rondel of actions where you're kind of pick, you have to pick an action next in line. But when you do it actually goes to the front of the line, you can upgrade your actions. You're fulfilling, not conquest, contracts is what I'm going to. Oh, contracts.

I love the look at this art, man. Yeah. It's amazing. Such a good game. Number two, these two are almost two and one. You can kind of flip-flop. Actually, again, like I say, all three, all five of these can be number one, except number five.

I wouldn't put number one. Anyway, number two, Shackleton Base. Shackleton Base is so good. This is crunchy Euro that, again, neither one of you guys need to read the rule books, even though the rulebook isn't really all that bad. It's not hard at all. But if you had somebody teaching it, I believe you would both love it. What's really cool about Shackleton Base is you're only using three different corporations.

You're kind of putting different. you're kind of putting different bases on the moon and then you're putting different items on a moon or getting different resources and building things it is so good and you have the three different corporations that you're using they change every game i think the base box has seven so using three different ones and even though you got a quote quote learn them they're not hard to learn you know the new ones aren't hard to learn if you haven't used it it's so good you'd absolutely love this one brian this looks good yeah i love the i love the board board's awesome yeah yeah big ground board with all little space stations all over the place.

Really cool. And what's cool is you're taking stuff off your own board, putting them out there. And depending on what you're building and where you build it from, that's going to either unlock other things, unlock special powers that you can use, like discounts on your maintenance and stuff like that. And also a different income when you do put some of those astronauts on to your base. All right, number one. How many, how many people, by the way, can play that Shackleton base?

I think it's two to five. I mean, it's at least two to four. My caveat to these type of games is... One to four, this one says, somewhat. It looks like you can solo it if you had to. Oh, you can solo it.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, almost all of these nowadays have a solo version. If the expansion that's coming out adds a fifth player, I have a rule that when you play medium and heavy euros, never, ever, ever, ever play them with five players. It just adds...

There are exceptions to every rule, like Pillars with the Earth, which is probably my top five favorite game. It's probably my top five favorite game. It's Earth based on the old book series is one of the best games that you can play at six I think it even goes up, I might even go up to eight with the expansion, but it goes six players. It doesn't add anything more to the, you know, to the length or complexity.

It's just great with that six player expansion. It's awesome. But anyway, Shackleton base, don't play with it more than four. All right. And then you've got, now we've got the number one game. This is, I covered this a couple of episodes that I go to, Covenant. Brian, I think you would absolutely love Covenant. It is so stinking good.

And it has that really cool kind of, you know, fantasy theme to it. So it's a Eurogame with a fantasy theme where if you don't like Euro games or you don't like fantasy, you can probably like this because it's got both. And it doesn't make you feel like you're doing either one of them. So it's awesome. That is by the year game. How come all the pieces look like Trump, whatever those things are called in France? The, the Arc de Trails.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you're building a few different things you're building basically. I can't remember what they're called, but there was three different buildings that you're building underground, you know, like a workshop and then like something else, and then you even have the towers that you're doing, and they'll score in different ways. You've got a little bit of area control in there. You're fighting some monsters, which doesn't even have like, quote, unquote, fighting. It's just you get a certain amount of attack, and then you're taking out some of the monsters that you'll see some pictures of that on there with the round pieces.

So you have your own round pieces, which are your dwarves, and then you'll have the other round pieces, which are the monsters with it are trolls. I think orcs and goblins, I think, depending on... What are they saying? Or short and squat, and I call it. If I was a dwarf, I'd be mad about that. That's fine. Now, these are fantasy dwarfs. Oh, okay.

Well, now we revere them. Yeah. No, this game is also one to four players. We've got a lot of one to fours going on. Yeah, most heroes, they're going to be one to four, maybe go up to five. And almost everybody nowadays, with people like me that you just love to play things solo, when you can't get, you know, can't get your group together. it's really good. I haven't played either one of those solo. I have played

Shackleton Bayes. I actually have played Shackleton Bay solo. It's amazing solo. I haven't played the other one solo on our list. So Scott, let's hit your list. Oh, sweet. Wayne, didn't you miss one? Galactic Cruz? Isn't that a thick one? No, that was the first one I mentioned. Oh, you said it's in the weird order and it threw me off. Sorry. Yeah, I kind of put them from one to five when I emailed them when I texted you them, but I'm going backwards. All right. You're all good. Okay, so number five, For Scott, Coy, I think, even though I think you might enjoy this one the most because of the theme of sitting around a Coy Pond, just chilling out. I think this is a number five game.

It's so good. It's easy to learn. Those clear, clear pieces, the acrylic pieces. Oh, yeah. It's pretty neat. It's pretty neat looking. So stinking good. This one is great.

That is my number five. Number four, Citizens of the Spark. This is basically just a tableau building with empropomorphic animals. You're basically tablo a building with the, uh, the, different cards. You're basically drafting cards, putting them your tablo and deciding whether you want to use them. Scott, I just taught you the whole game. Let's go play. Sweet. Let's go. Those are short rules. I like that.

Yep. In each card, you know, each, depending on whether you have one, two, or three of those cards, their actions are going to be more powered up, and you're going to get different points. This game plays legit in two, I mean, I'm sorry, in 20 to 60 minutes. This one you can play with five. All the games that I mentioned in now, Scott, you can actually play

all these with more than four. If they are, you know, if the player count is there, they'll be fine. They're not going to really bring any more, you know, problems to the game. This one will go up to five on this one. Okay. Yeah, and it plays just fine. I played this one actually with five. Number three is Alibis.

This is kind of the one of the two real party games that I put on your list. Got this is kind of that code names meets just one, where this is perfect for playing kind of while you're waiting for your dinner or if you're, if you like to go to breweries and things like that, it just plays so well. This is an absolute great, great game. This should be on a lot of people's top, top of level. This I love the look of this one with like, yeah, right, like the like the alternative to code names. We've played so much code names.

It's like, all right, I'm ready for some different variation. A new twist, yeah. Yeah. The art is awesome. The art is like like, like, like, I don't know, like punk comic art. Yeah. Yes, very comicy. Alternative comic.

Yeah. Love that. That's awesome. All right. Okay. Number two, Pazetano. And this is, uh, it's not Italian city where you're kind of, building kind of 3D buildings there.

And this one, this one does only go up to 14, I'm up to four. And I think the sweet spot is actually four players, but it's not going to increase your playing time at all. You can play this in 45 minutes to an hour, very, very easily. You're basically, again, you have a hand of cards. You're going to take one card of one type,

one card of another type, and that's going to be basically your bidding, your kind of blind bidding for the round, and that's going to determine each row of the game, what you're drafting, when you're drafting, and then you're going to be using that. You're going to be building buildings. One kind of part of it is where are you building a building?

Another part of it is how high your building is going to go. And another part of it is going to be the ceiling or the roof marker because it's either bronze, silver, or gold, different roof marker. That's the whole game. We can go and play. I just thought this is what's great about this. Man, these are great. I'm going, take that. Everyone who has long stuff to read, not me, not today. And what's interesting about this, it's made by Slugfest games.

And their games are generally like the Red Dragon Inn. Not that there's anything wrong with their other games. It just doesn't fit the same theme as what they normally put out. But it doesn't matter. I mean, this game is great. It is, again, one of my favorite games of this year and probably one of my number one kind of very much to introduce into novice players or people that don't even really say they play games

because you don't have to teach anything. You don't really have to set up much, and it's just the overhead teach is so easy. And Scott, the number one game, you probably already own this. I do. You're going to see different versions everywhere. Flip 7. There is no doubt.

This is one of the best games that has come out in the last five years. Flip seven, they even put out the Grinch version. There's another version. I can't remember what it's called. It's like Flip Seven Redux or Flip Seven in your face. It's like something where it's even more take that cards added to it that's out now. But this is a game. I feel like you can give this to any person in your life who just, even if they don't play games,

if they ever, you know, have people over or ever just looking for something to do, it's one of the best games ever. So when the game says three plus play. players, you know, what does that tell you as a... So that tells me you can really play this with like 20 people, you know, because it's a big deck of cards. Okay. You're really just going around. It doesn't really matter.

There are some games like Welcome 2, which is rolling right. They say it's like you can play from three to 99. And that's kind of one of these things they sometimes will do at Gen Con is they'll have like break the world's record for most game players in this game. Yeah. And they'll do like a whole room full of like 60 people. You're basically just telling people on, you know, with like, welcome to you just flipping over two cards and people are just basically picking one of the two and filling it

on their little sheet. And flip seven, you've got a big deck of about, you know, what, 200 cards that it comes with. And you're just basically just playing it almost like, you know, black stat jack is the best way we like to, you know, explain it. Is you're just basically giving one card to everybody and then the next person, hit or stay, hit or stay. And then you're having to take an add up their own points. So you can play this with like, again, you can play this with an extended family very, very easily. I'm sure there's probably something, something written up somewhere where once you get past a certain amount of players, you probably want to get a second copy of it.

Oh, right. There's so many cards in it. You know, all you're really doing is after a couple of rounds, just shuffling them up a little bit. This is eight years and plus, so you can start pretty young with this one. I mean, really? Here's a little inside baseball for things like games. Whenever you see whatever number plus, now sometimes it's for, you know, the complexity. Oftentimes it's because whenever you put younger numbers on there, you have to do more testing.

So when you put like three and up, you have to like send them off to certain places to be a lot. allow it to say that. So you'll have to do testing on whether things can be ingested, whether things will be choked on, whether they'll poison you. So a lot of times, you'll see just numbers that are just safe. So like eight and up, obviously, flip seven, you can play this with a five-year-old easy. Yeah. You know, just make sure he's as a little as he's smarter five-year-old. Right. I mean, in the internet, one, you could just say, your number is this. If you got any dumb, five-year-olds, push them to the side.

They give them a regular deck of cards and tell them to go for it. Yeah. I challenge you, Scott. Play this with your grandson and see how he does. Yeah, I bet he'd do great. He just turned seven. He just flipped seven. Oh, there you go. What I need to do is distract him as often as possible because he did the whole I was six and now I'm seven and six seven and all that shit.

Oh, yeah. And he loves it. He thinks that's the funniest thing of the world. So now it's going to be flip seven. Uh-huh. He will, dude. He's coming over Friday. We'll see if I can finally get these people to sit at and play because I would love that.

I still have this game. I took it on two different trips and I still haven't opened it. I don't know what's wrong with me. Yeah. I know how it goes. Everybody gets talking. You forget, yeah.

Yeah, you just don't end up getting to it. So think of how many times you brought like a game onto a trip. Now, picture you're me. How many times you brought a box of games? I was just saying how many games do you bring on a trip typically? Yeah. Probably all or, well, many, right, is the answer. You do many?

Yeah. But when we used to go to go to the Outer Banks with my kids for like a long week in October or whatever, you know, for vacation at the beach, I would bring like a crate and maybe I'd be lucky enough to convince, you know, my wife

and our friends to play one game, one or two games throughout the week. And meanwhile, and then eventually as an adult he's kind of gets smart, like, yeah, we're never playing these. I'm all going to bring like a couple of really small things that'll fit in a backpack. Yeah, I used to bring, I used to do

the same thing with consoles back in the 16-bit I would bring my SNS and my Genesis to everything. Both. And what I realized was, same kind of problem. It'd be like, well,

why don't you just bring one and focus on one or two games on that one? And everyone will be happy. Otherwise, you're just going to be mad that nobody plugged in one of them or you spent too little,

you know, it's just going to, and then you've got to pack it all up. So this is a good idea in matter what you're packing around. Take less than you think you need. We need to send you photos of everything that Brian Denaway brought

to the southeast Oh my gosh, I'll bet. Where it was basically like a CRT TV and a VHS and a thousand video cass and this video game and this retro video game system. And this is like he brought everything with him. Yeah. And big CR, lugging big CRTs like that. That takes a certain kind of man, you know? It really does.

And I am not that kind of man. I'm not that man either. Sweet. Well, this. Boys, next episode, next time I'm on, I will do the dungeon crawlers. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's save them. Because I've definitely talked about just about all of these before. And we can go into a little more depth because I know that's kind of more up our wheelhouse, especially Brian's.

And my number one will probably come as no secret to people that listen to TMS. But I have some others. And I can actually might go out to seven on this one just to go, you know, to give us a little more content on that one. Because there's other games worth mentioning that don't necessarily fit into the length of some of the other ones. But anyway, I'm getting long-winded again. How are you? How excited are you? This is my final question to you today. How excited are you for Slay the Spire 2 this month?

Oh, man. So this month, man. I can't believe so. Being that my bonus is coming for work, I've already been looking up at Lenovo and some of these other places to get a new computer. I haven't got a computer. I crap you guys not 10 years. Jeez.

Wow. So I've upgraded stuff. I've got plenty of RAM in there. I've got an SSD in there, but still, like, things are just not running very well, like if they're not. So I got Titan Quest 2, and it's just not optimized yet. You know, it's in early access. It runs like crap. And a game like that should not run.

It's not that intensive. No. It just runs like crap. So it's time. So hopefully, I'm sure, you know, Slate Aspire won't run bad, but I'm excited to test it out on a new rig. But Slate Aspire, I can't tell you how many hours I have in those type of games between Monster Train 2, which is put out at the LC. Oh, so good. Oh, so good.

Yeah. Monster Trend 2 is so awesome. And Slate the Spire 2, like if I was making an indie card battler deck builder game right now, I would hold off on releasing that because the seismic explosion that is a new Slate the Spire game is going to make nobody want to play anyone else's. It's going to dominate for a year. The only negative that I see about the new Slate Aspire is that they keep advertising how it's got to like, it's a co-op-op-hole, you know, a big thing.

Like, no, I don't play these games because I want to. I don't want to be, I don't see anybody. I just want to sit there, zone out, and draw cards and beat monsters. I'm okay if they have the mode. I don't want to ever feel like I want to do that mode, because it doesn't sound like a thing for me at all. I will be single playing a single player game. I can probably do that.

And I will say this for a quick tangent. One sense here. The board game, the Slate Aspire, the car game, the board game, that with multiplayer, with two players, is excellent. It's great solo, obviously. but that's one where I'd say, oh, yeah, we can play it. It's a commitment, and it's a bit long. You know, you can save for each act.

It is great with two. I just don't think I want to play the PC game. No. You know, with two. No, I may try it because we want to talk about it on core, but I don't want to, that's not how I want to play that game. Hell, half the time I don't want to play wow that way. I just want to play by myself.

Well, anyway, Dan, it's always good to talk to you. Tell people about your shows so people can check you out in the meantime. Yes, you can find the Geek All-Stars podcast. We just put out a show where we talk about just kind of getting back into, you know, normal shows where we talk about board games, car games, TV, movies, a little bit of everything as usual. The next show will be our top 11 of 2025. So that'll be coming out in a few weeks. It'll be a great show, as always, and we'll talk about a lot of games. Sweet.

It'll be a blast. That sounds awesome. Dan, Patrice, stay out of trouble and don't spill any pills that you have to count and put back in the models. Three second rule. Yeah. I should ask next time he's on. Is there, if you drop some pills, like some oxy for some old lady on the floor, do you feel okay?

Like, what are the rules? I must know what the rules are. Right, right. Can you pick them up real quick and throw them in there? Or do you, is there a rule that says, nope, shove them to the side? Try not to do that. That's expensive, whatever. I want to know.

So next time he's on. Perfect. We'll find out. Excellent. All right, y'all, we're done with the show today. I want to thank everybody for being here to listen, to watch however you consume it, we appreciate it. Go to frogpants.com slash TMS for all your TMS needs.

That aforementioned quicktms.L.I link is linked there as well. So super simple. It's got all the stuff Dan talked about and it's got the ending song, all that stuff. So yeah. Yeah, if you like resources for things you thought you missed or can't remember, hot damn. We got you covered. Darn right. Tonight there will be a watch retro with me and Brian Dunaway at 4.

Mountain right here on the Twitch channel. So come check that out if you are so inclined. And Brian, there is a new soundography up all about the band Venus Hum. You might know them from the I Feel Love cover that they did with the Blue Man Group. Well, they're also just awesome on their own without the Blue Man Group. And they're fantastic. What was the name again?

Name of the man. Venus Hum. Venus Hum. I don't think I've ever heard of them. Electronic female fronted electronic. group that is and she's got a voice like that's a weird combination of biorke toriamus and uh nico case she's amazing you're selling me here okay she's she's great i like that she looked from from the neck up she looks like she's gonna ask me if

i have a library card and from the neck down she looks like a rock and rock and roll lady yeah yeah no she this is a singer who would fit right in at nerdtacular tms vagus or something so that'd be awesome yeah All right, very cool. I'll have to check that out. Anyway, let's play a song for him now. What do you got? Yeah, this is courtesy of the syndicate.

Thanks for letting me know about this one. Bowling for Soup have a brand new cover. They released it today, I believe. Yes, this morning. This is their cover of Simple Plans, Emo Anthem. I'm just a kid. They're getting ready to hit the road with Simple Plan this summer for bigger than you think tour, The sequel.

So go check out Bowling for Soup on the road. Here's their cover of Simple Plans. I'm just a kid. I woke up, it was seven, I waited till 11, just to figure out that no one would call. I think I've got a lot of friends, but I don't hear from them. What's another night all alone? When you're spending every day on your own, and here it goes, Tonight.

And when the night is falling to my... Thanks for you. For listening, the Frogpants Network lives at frogpans.com. Damn it, Brian.