The Morning Stream - TMS 2977: Bartholomew Cheesecake
Episode Date: March 12, 2026Are There a lot of Cherries in the Black Forest? Zee Coconuts. Letter swaps to Anus. The Ancient City of Zubba Zubba. The Romulans and the Capulets. Gotta get down on Pi Day. The All Day Bird. Marky M...ark Removal Specialist. Kip-Bo Spaghetti. Bask In The People. The General Geezer Area. Brian likes pina colada. No Mermaid Left Behind. A Very Limp Biscuit. Being A Jerk About It w Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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are there a lot of cherries in the black forest?
Z. Coconut's.
Letter swaps to Anus.
The ancient city of Zubba, Zubba.
The Romulans and the Capulets.
Gotta get down on Pi Day.
The all day bird.
Marky Mark removal specialist.
Kip Bow Spaghetti.
Basque in the people.
The general geyser area.
Brian likes peanut cola.
Oh.
Brian likes me Nicolada.
No mermaid left behind.
A very limp biscuit.
Being a jerk about it with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
San Canyon.
Yes, you know, the place we used to go on picnics.
I can't hear you.
Okay, I like it, Picasso.
The Morning Stream.
You are listening to Adele.
deem.
Hello and welcome to TMS.
This is the morning stream for,
uh,
what is it?
March 12th,
2026.
I'm Scott Johnson.
That's Brian Abbott.
Hello, Brian Abbott.
Hello.
We're inching ever so close to pie day.
Too bad pie day will be on the weekend.
Oh.
Uh,
we'll have to go eat pie after we record film sack on Saturday.
Do we ever get a pie day on a Friday?
Cause that'd be cool.
It would rhyme.
Sure.
Yeah.
Should average out about once every seven years.
Oh,
a Friday pie day.
I don't.
want to wait that long. That sucks. But you can have pie on this Friday on the 13th. That's true.
There's nobody stopping us from having pie anytime we want to have pie. Yeah. Have pie anytime you
want. I feel like unless there's a bespoke pie shortage, we should be able to get whatever pie we need.
I think so. Yeah. Pies are easy to come by. You know what? Here's a question, though. Yeah.
I'm partial to berry pies of various sorts. Blueberry pie, raspberry pie.
blackberry pie.
I like all the berry pies.
Not really a huge fan of,
we've talked about before,
but I don't like the pumpkin.
Right.
And I don't like mince meat,
don't like rhubarb.
I'd be fan of mincemeat.
I like rhubarb.
I like pecan.
Becon's divisive, right?
Because it's that really chewy,
molassesy kind of gelon
that keeps the pecans in place.
And you kind of have to do that
because the pecans are kind of chalky
and better if you don't.
Yeah, you need something to,
to balance them out.
For me, it goes
apple, pumpkin, peach,
and then your cream pies.
Peach is good.
Yeah.
Peach pie is.
I'm also down with Apple, but yes,
peach, there's something about a peach pie
and are also the most,
I feel like those are the ones I see the least.
I don't see them.
No, you don't see them often because
I'm sure in Atlanta, you know,
down Georgia, you probably see them all the time,
but you need, they've got to be fully ripe,
which means mid to late summer here in the in the mountain west um so then you got a you got a
you got a shorter window for good peach pie here in colorado it seems like um uh but then the cream pies
and the bottom of the barrel for me i'm not a fan of coconut cream pie no i'm not a big fan of coconut
me neither in general don't like the flavor don't like the texture not into it yeah mostly the
texture i don't like the i don't like a shredded coconut if you made a drink or something
that was not a sort of coconut flavor.
Yeah, like a pinia colada.
Yeah, that's fine.
I'd answer that ad.
Yeah.
About the liking pinia colladas.
But yeah, no, exactly, which is one of the reasons that I'm not a fan, not as much of a fan of German chocolate cake is with the pineapple or the coconut on it.
Oh, right.
Because that it doesn't, so I love that cake without the coconut, but then it's not German chocolate cake anymore.
Then it's chocolate cake.
Yeah.
I think it was, which coconut, you don't think of as being a very German thing, but it does.
It feels like, like, you know, making a cake with chocolate and coconut is a German chocolate cake.
And you're like, oh, I'm going to Germany for the coconuts this summer.
Yeah, it's supposed to be a really good.
It's a very weird thing.
Like, where do you go in Germany to get your fresh coconut?
I don't even know.
You have to import all that, you know?
Yes, yes, exactly.
But, no, give me a, you know, a banana cream pie.
I'm all over.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Love a banana cream pie.
I love a chocolate cream pie.
I love a moose style chocolate pie.
Yes, yes.
Totally fine with that.
So there's, there's a pie.
Now, if we're talking to cake, for me, Black Forest cake, there is no, you know, there's a long distance from number one to number two.
No, I'm with you.
That's available.
That's all I'll have.
I love a black forest cherry cake in particular.
Yes.
Well, yes.
I think Black Forest implies the cherries.
Oh, does it?
I didn't know that.
I thought that was an add-on.
Yeah, no, it's.
My mom used to make it without and with, and I always thought.
Oh, really?
Yeah. But maybe that was just because somebody in our family didn't like cherries or something.
Maybe I'm confused. I always thought Black Forest was chocolate cherry and whipped cream.
Oh, that sounds so good.
I don't eat things like this anymore, but I can sure dream about them.
Oh, I want to look up Black Forest cake.
Yeah, let's see what's in there.
Is there a lot of cherries in the Black Forest? Is that the deal?
I also like any time, anytime somebody claims they got a death by chocolate configuration, I will eat that.
That was a fad that I never really cared about was lava cake.
Yeah, not into it.
Like you just didn't cook your cake all the way through.
It felt like uncooked batter and it was too warm and where it shouldn't be.
And maybe there's a way to maybe you go to some five-star restaurant and they do it best or something.
But every lava cake I ever had just felt like an unfinished cake.
Uncooked. Exactly.
We pulled it out of the oven too early.
Lava cake.
Yeah.
Yep.
Classic German dessert.
Black Forest is also German.
Give me that instead of your German chocolate.
Layers of chocolate sponge cake, whipped cream, and cherries traditionally flavored with Kirsch,
which is a cherry liqueur, and decorated with chocolate shavings and fresh cherries.
Oh, that sounds so good.
Yeah.
We had clarification.
It's German, so German chocolate cake is called German chocolate cake, not because it's from Germany,
but because it's German processed chocolate.
Oh.
Oh, it's like the other way around.
We're getting the chocolate from Germany.
Kind of like the fortune cookies, right?
Like where we, yeah, where we kind of adopted it.
I had no idea.
It's a rich American chocolate layer cake.
It says it right there.
Sweet.
Known for, oh, why to click?
Okay.
Known for its distinctive coconut pecan frosting,
not its German origin named after Samuel German,
who developed a sweet baking chocolate used in the recipe.
So actually, even a well actually to that well actually,
it's named after a dude whose last name was German.
Are you kidding me?
Has nothing to do with Germany.
Well, that's an impossible thing to carry through time and not have people get confused.
Totally, yeah.
There's nobody's kids are going to grow up going, well, it's because there was a guy named German.
Stephen German.
That's crazy.
Samuel German.
Samuel German.
That's funny.
Yeah, that's absolutely wild.
I didn't know we were going to learn something today, but we did.
Dallas, he was the earliest known recipe was in 1956 in the Dallas newspaper, the Irving News record.
ever go there
yes
oh man
I spent
so mostly at the Dallas
Morning News
and the Dallas
I was in Dallas
for like a week
Dallas morning news
is like the big one right
that's the big one
yeah
and then Dallas
yeah I guess the Dallas
the Irving
I guess Irving News record
maybe I didn't go
the Irving News record
because that would have been
that probably wasn't one of their
is it a town
I think it's a town outside of Dallas, a suburb of Dallas.
That makes more sense.
I like that.
Yeah, the Dallas Morning News, yeah, absolutely.
That'd be funny.
It was a dude named named after me.
I'm Irving.
Right.
I'm Irving, yes.
Let's have some German chocolate cake from Samuel German.
Samuel German.
Look at that.
We've all learned something.
We really didn't learn something.
I hope so.
Some people on the chat are probably like, I knew this.
Well, good for them.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Good for them.
Hey, a bit of news.
Good news.
Yeah.
Tell me some good.
I'm ready for some good news.
We've calibrated the math, did some math, and made a determination that for those who, because there are a lot of people who can't come to an artacular until a certain time happens or they are approved to leave for work or whatever it is.
Right.
A work thing.
Waiting for a paycheck, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah.
And it occurred to me.
I'm like, well, I don't want those people to have to pay higher ticket prices just because they needed more time.
So we did the math and we'll be okay if we leave tickets alone, leave prices at the lower price.
So good news.
If you waited, you do not have to eat the extra.
I think we were only going to pump them up by 10 or something.
Oh, that's not too bad.
20 or something.
But they're staying where they are.
So what they are on the site right now is what they will be all the way up until the first or, you know, up until the 11th of June.
up until you show up.
Until you show up.
Can you get tickets at the door?
You could.
You'd have to order them.
You'd have to pull out your phone, order them, and then show your phone.
Yeah, you won't get it.
You might not get a swag bag, because I'm sure that's based on a certain number at a certain date.
Yeah, and we'll have some over it, so we'll hopefully be able to fix any last minuteers that come.
That's the goal.
We always try to have enough to cover any slack if we can.
But anyway, just letting you know, view over to frogpans.com slash nerdtacular today.
hit that ticket button.
It's even still listed as early bird pricing.
The birds came early and the bird stayed.
It's the early midday and evening bird is what it is.
He's an all-day bird, all-day bird.
He's the bird who won't leave.
He never stopped catching the worm.
It's all day 24-7.
That's right.
So anyway, please do get your tickets, though, and come.
Get your hotel room nights.
They're amazing deals right now.
and we want to see your butts in chairs and see your happy faces.
Yeah, we do.
Come June.
It's certainly a thing where I'm looking forward to it so much.
And I got to make sure that, you know, the stress of the prep of the trivia bit
doesn't take anything away from me, just sit and stopping and saying,
let me bask in the fun of just being part of this great community.
Same. I have the same. I got the same goals this time.
I want to, you know, because as far as far as,
as I know this, maybe the last one of these of its kind that we do. And if it is, I want to have
that time. I want to meet everyone. Bill's, Bill's planning for 2027, apparently. Bill's got
robot wars planned for the next year. Exactly. Yeah. Doing it at Bill's house. But, but yeah,
like, my goal this year is to be so, so prepared ahead of time and early and so rock solid on what
I've got to do with wiggle room, because there's always wiggle room. So that that can be the case,
because I'm with you.
I want to,
I want to bask in the people.
Yeah, for sure.
I want to be where the people are.
Something, something.
Something.
I'm in the water.
What's it called?
A fork?
I hate that.
They walk on what?
Feet.
I hate it so much.
I mean,
I get it's a song.
It's whatever,
but,
you know,
sea,
undersea schools just really don't teach the basics anymore.
No,
they don't.
It's the problem.
They don't.
Are they like fish where they just don't know what's going on up there?
Maybe it's that bad.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Can't imagine though.
You're lobster singing.
It's the schools, you know, the government setting the school's teaching criteria.
Yeah.
Well, if we don't teach them about feet, they'll never have to know about feet.
Exactly.
That's a dark time in the life of the fish people.
I like that it's schools, though, because there are schools of fish down there.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a funny joke on two levels, but I didn't think of.
Yeah, see? Look at all this workshop and paid off.
Anyway, get your tickets. That's all I'm saying. We want to see you guys there.
Let's get to some news before my sister rolls in.
Okay. Rollin, rolling, there again.
Another rolling reference. We can't get away from it.
Nope. My biscuit is very limp today.
All right, here we go, everybody. Where the hell is it right here?
Let's do some news brought to you by.
Brought you by Coverville, that will take place immediately,
midiashly after TMS today.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announced their voting slate.
Now, before they figure out who their inductees are for the year,
they come out with a list of several artists and bands who qualify
and who are on the short list, the nominees, if you will.
And this year, it's a great crop like Joy Division slash New Order,
Billy Idol in excess, Melissa Etheridge, or Melissa Etheridge,
or Melitha Estridge.
Mariah Carey, Jeff Buckley, Black Crows, Oasis, Pink, Shadeh,
Shakira, Luther Vandros, Wutang Clan.
Jeez.
Quite the, quite the, uh, it's quite the slate.
Yeah.
Uh, and, and so people have to sit and vote down,
they have to take you down to just seven votes out of those 17 artists.
And, uh, uh, I say, let's do an episode of Coverville where we listen to a song,
a cover of each one of those 17 bands.
Great idea.
So, of course, things like The Trooper and Bizarre Love Triangle and In the Air Tonight and
come to my window by the great Molitha Estridge and, uh, lover you should have come over.
The one of the greatest songs ever written.
Uh, it just happens to be by Jeff Buckley and, uh, Gravel Pit by Wu Tang Clan.
Yes, I have a cover of Gravel Pit by Wu Tang Clan and you won't want to miss it.
Yeah, no, that's great.
How many, how many total inductees then?
17, 17, uh, nominees.
Nominees.
which will get paired down to, paired down to like six, between six and eight inductees.
They do six to eight at a time per year.
Yeah, yeah, per year.
Wow, that's a lot.
And then they have your non-musician inductees like Alan Freed, who coined the term rock and roll, you know, producers and folks who aren't necessarily musicians who get inducted in the Hall of Fame.
It's like your, George Martin.
It's like your lifetime achievement stuff on the end.
Exactly. Yes.
Do you think there's any of those names you mentioned, is anyone a lock?
Oh, that's a good question.
Like 100% going in no matter what?
I would say Billy Idol, surprisingly out of all.
Oh, Iron Maiden.
I think Iron Maiden is a lock.
Oh, this is their year, is it?
This is their year.
They've got the chops.
They've got a huge library of music.
they are rock and roll.
I mean, they're metal, but they're rock and roll.
I feel like your outliers,
it's almost easier to say who the outliers are.
Like Luther Vandros, I think, is an outlier.
I don't.
I say there's less of a chance that Luther makes it into the,
makes it in the final slate.
I'd love to see in excess because the more,
the more you hear from NXS, the more it's like,
okay, yeah, there's,
A little surprised they didn't get in before now, but yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
I think also Phil Collins is probably a shoe-in.
Of course, he got in when Genesis was inducted as well.
But he holds some ridiculous record.
It's like him, Michael Jackson, and I don't know who else,
hold this record of like selling, oh, Paul McCartney, of course,
selling X amount of billions of dollars as a member of a band and X amount of billions of dollars
also as a solo artist like Paul McCartney, Phil Collins and Michael Jackson are each in that
that top echelon.
And to be honest, you know, poor Phil is not doing well.
It would be nice to get him some honors while he's still, while he's still with us.
They could probably still wheel him out and have him accept and everything, you know.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I really hope that happens.
And all these people can recycle into new nominations later on, I assume.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I think there's some bands who have been in this nomination.
I think the Black Crows have been in this list for maybe two years.
Oh, man.
I think they might have been in the voting slate last year.
But it's fascinating.
Yeah.
Wild business, that.
We'll watch for that.
We'll do a raid.
Coverville, Twitch.com. Yeah. Twitch.tv.TV slash Coverville right after the show.
Yep. We're right over there with our lives and everyone else.
Tune in, coverville.com.
Yes. Oh, here we go. Michael Jackson, Paul McCroney, Phil Collins, are unique in music history is the only three artists to have sold over 100 million records, both as a solo performer and separately as members of a band.
Wild. Just those three. Those three are...
That's some hallowed ground right there.
It is.
two of them have performed together.
Paul McCartney, Michael Jackson, with, of course,
you know, the girl is mine and say, say, say.
Yeah.
But no, no pairing of Jackson and Phil Collins or Paul McCartney and Phil Collins.
Well, there's still time, Paul and.
There's still time.
Like, yeah, exactly.
For Paul and Phil.
For two of you anyway.
Yeah.
Right.
The two P's.
Yeah.
Call it the double P tour.
And there you go.
You got what you need.
Here's our first news story.
A tour guide was arrested after drawing stick figures.
on a 4,000-year-old pyramid.
Oh, my God.
The tour guide should know better.
I know.
I understand if there's some dumb teenager on, like, school, what do you call it?
You know, a field trip kind of thing.
Or, yeah, exchange program, whatever.
Some idiot from, like, Wisconsin, who happens to be in Egypt.
But no, that's not it.
An Egyptian tour guide arrested after allegedly sketching a stick figure onto the side of a 4,000-year-old pyramid of Eunice, or Unis, probably.
Unis.
I'm not familiar with that one.
I'm not either.
It's hopefully it's just a couple swaps of a letter away from anus.
Yeah, you anus.
While leading a group of tourists, video of the incident, which circulated widely on social media.
I feel like they don't need to even tell us that anymore.
Of course, that's where it's circulated.
Where else would it go?
Video of the incident, which was shown on several local news stations.
Yeah.
So dumb.
Anyway, shows the man leaning toward a lower section of the pyramid's outer casing while tourists stand nearby listing.
he has then seen attempting to wipe the markings away with his hand,
though remnants remain visible in the footage.
In a post on X, Egypt's interior ministry said,
the guide damaged in antiquity by drawing on the outer casing of one of the pyramids,
like the article just said,
while explaining the site to tourists,
although the initial report mentioned the general Giza area,
but that's where, I mean, all the great pyramids are in that area.
Pyramids, all the ones he care about in the Seven Wonders of the World are the Pyramids of Giza.
Those are the only ones that matter.
Yeah, I played,
I played Assassin's Creed Origins.
Oh, yeah, civilization or whatever.
Yeah.
And Assassin's Creed Origins had this cool tourist mode where
you, it was not, so there's the game, right?
Where you're assassinating and doing all the story and everything.
And then there's this switch you can flip over and basically,
you get to walk around in all these virtual spaces.
And then there's these little highlighted areas.
You can walk up to them and click them like a museum.
And a voice will come on and go,
the ancient city of Zubba Zubba was doing the thing with the deal and they'll do a whole like you know description of the history of this area and it's accurately depicted in the game it was so rad.
That's really cool.
Like what a great way to reuse your maps and also kind of shows how how accurate your maps are, your game maps are.
Yeah, they really adhered to like the geography for the most part and it was really cool.
and then they stopped doing it.
And they could have done it with the next two, at least,
because those were very historically accurate as well.
But Odyssey would have had a great tour mode, but they didn't do it.
Odyssey was also huge, so I don't know.
Yeah, that's cool.
Anyway, it says here the ministry said the investigation was launched after the video spread online,
prompting an antiquities inspector to file a report with the Sakura tourism police station identifying the guide.
Officials said the markings were later removed by specialists.
Okay.
Marking removal specialists.
It's demarky mark is who they brought in.
That's right.
He said, yo, yo, yo.
Unmarky mark.
This feels like something, I mean, you're destroying something that is so, you know, such.
It's a massively protected part of our world's history.
It feels like this guy better get more than just like, you know, slap on the wrist in a week in jail.
I mean, he feels like he needs to lose a finger.
Yeah, like old school.
Like old school punishment.
Like what would the pharaohs have done if, you know.
And then you mummify the finger and keep it under glass somewhere.
That's right.
Joe Block carrier, like decided to carve his initials into it.
What would have happened to him?
He would be buried in the pyramid.
Oh, yeah.
He'd be gone the minute they saw it.
He'd be mortar.
But they'd probably just turn the stone around that had the drawing on it.
Right.
Exactly.
Great. Now we have to put the, oh, I didn't like the way the other face of this look.
There was some marks on there, a little bit of a chip.
I mean, I know there's some, there's still some mystery as to how these things were built.
But I think we won't, isn't it, wasn't it more kind of recently figured out that it wasn't slaves like everybody thought.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I thought it was slaves. Okay.
Yeah, there's some, I don't have it in front of me and I'd have to go dig around, but there's some, some recent finding suggesting anyway that it wasn't on the backs of slaves necessarily.
They still don't have all the physics down about.
how they did it.
I heard a guy in a video.
I remember the pictures of it being like on logs that they're pushing it.
And then when a log comes out the bottom, they have guys who run it up to the front and just
basically keep adding, you know, keep pulling the backlogs to the front.
That would make sense to me, right?
That would make sense.
The ramps and stuff to get to the upper areas.
I saw the dumbest video where this guy asked AI to make a video of how it worked.
And the video that came out were a bunch of giant robots.
moving blocks around.
So it's ancient Egypt, right?
All the sand and dirt and everything.
But instead of, and there's little dudes in like traditional Egyptian attire directing these robots,
but these huge robots are like grabbing a block and setting it down and just, and that's how it was done.
And that made me go, what are we doing, man?
Yeah.
I mean, that's a fun idea.
It's a fun idea, but yeah, not, not historically accurate.
Plus, AI, I went to, so yesterday I decided I was going to Uber for a while, and we had movie theater Jeopardy last night.
So I was like, well, I'll just, I'll start Ubering later so that I can go right from Ubering right to Jeopardy.
And when I Uber, I wear my Oakley meta glasses so that if somebody gets on their phone in the back seat, I can tap my glasses and transfer the music from the car just to my headset.
So I can keep listening to music and they can talk on the phone and interrupt.
uninterrupted without any noise they have to talk over.
Plus they, you know, they're transitional,
so they turn into sunglasses when it's bright and it's bright.
But I'm not going to take those into movie theater Jeopardy because, you know,
I don't even want somebody to think that I have the potential of cheating if I go in there.
So I left them in the car.
Went and played Jeopardy, came in third.
They let you keep your phone or no.
You have to use your phone to enter in answers.
So yes.
Okay.
But they just was like an honor system now that you're not going to go.
There's an honor system, but there's also a 30-second timer that if you tried to Google something, you probably, it would be very hard for you to get the answer you're looking for in the time to be able to Google it, get the answer, get the answer, and then type it into the answer and submit.
Gotcha.
So it's, you know, it's pretty fast.
But final jeopardy was in from 2020 to 2025, every best picture winner, every best picture winner.
is a one-word title except for one.
What named the movie that was a non-one one-word title.
Oh.
And struggled with this one because I could think of Oppenheimer and Coda and,
oh, parasites too old, but.
Yeah, 2019.
Anora last year.
And Dr. Calhoun has it.
It was everything everywhere all at once, which was 2020, I believe.
and um...
So good.
Yeah, exactly.
So when I got in the car, I put the glasses back on and I said,
Hey, Meta, tell me the last, just to see how long it would take.
If I decided to take these into the theater and try to cheat, people would hear me
talking and they'd know immediately.
But let's say I sat far away from everybody and I kind of whispered.
But I said, you know, hey, Meta, named the last five best picture winners.
And the first time it went through, it said, well, you have, um,
Coda in this year and you have
Oppenheimer in this year
and you have Anora which won
for 2024 and 2025.
I'm like, no, that
didn't win for both years. That doesn't work
that way at all. And then her little
Kristen Bell voice came back and said,
oh, you're absolutely right.
That winner, 24 winner,
was Zone of Interest. I said, no,
zone of interest didn't win that year.
And she says, oh, you're right. Nope.
It was Oppenheimer
starring Cillian Murphy. And I said,
It's not pronounced Sillion.
It's Killian.
She's like, oh, you're right.
Sillian's first name is actually pronounced Killian.
Your, your AI that day was hallucinating everything.
It was everything.
It was like, it was the worst, the worst Kristen Bell chat I'd ever had.
It was just constant, constant FX.
I don't understand simple hallucinations.
I get the more complex ones, right?
But if you're going to say, give me a list of the last 10 winners of Oscars.
Yeah, last 10 best pick.
That feels like a thing that it can easily verify before it gives me anything.
Yeah, here's my thought on how it got confused by things is because they, um, uh, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I mean the film came out for the year that the
Oscars were held the following March and saying, okay, Anora won for 2024 and
2025 because it came out in 2024 and then also one in, and then also won in,
2025. You know what I'm saying? Like, because Anora came out in 2024, it attributed Anora to winning
both years. Oh, I see. Like it said, oh, I see Anora came out in 2024. And it also won the
Oscar in 2025. So therefore, it must have won the Oscar in 2024 as well. That might be it.
If that's how that works, they got to fix that shit. They really got to figure that shit out.
That's really dumb.
So it just was hilarious about how many things wrong.
And then to call him Sillion Murphy.
And then when I corrected that, oh, that's right.
Sillian Murphy's name is pronounced Killian Murphy.
He's from Cork, Ireland.
And that's where his accent comes from.
I was like, well, of course that's where our accents usually come from the place
where we used to live.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what a wild.
What a wild thing.
It was, you know.
And there was like, again, 30 seconds, st.
during the thing in Jeopardy?
Nope,
that was a two-minute conversation
I had to have
with a fake Kristen Bell.
Yeah,
that's the other thing is
there are times
where you go,
man,
this LLM I'm using
is magical at making the thing
I needed.
And it was so good at it
that the next day you're like,
I'm going to come to you again
with another need.
Yeah.
Here's my need.
And then it goes,
I'm stupid.
Exactly.
It's like, oh, okay.
Well, glad I'm not paying for you
or anything.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
So thank you.
Hopefully, it works for the things I need, which is turning into sunglasses and transferring music to my head.
Yeah, yeah.
I do like that, though.
That's a cool feature, swapping.
It is a cool feature.
Yeah, and the noisy room voice focus thing is really cool.
I've only used it the one time on Tina's birthday, but when that worked, it was really cool.
I can also do translation with it, and I haven't turned that on yet, but that's one of the beta features.
So if there's somebody speaking Spanish to me, I can turn on translation and I hear, like, I hear them, but then I also hear what they're saying in English.
Oh.
But it doesn't help me.
Like, I can hold up my phone.
I can say an answer back and hold up my phone and it'll complete the translation back to them in Spanish.
We're getting there.
Star Trek.
Usually if people are speaking Spanish in my car, it's because they don't want me.
Yeah, they don't want you to hear.
Exactly.
You respect their privacy.
Right.
Fortunately, the word Uber driver still is said in English usually.
Yeah.
Hard to avoid that.
Among a whole bunch of other Spanish.
Yeah.
In Japan, it's Uberda driver.
Yeah.
That's right.
Let's get into some helpfulness.
Something wrong, Batman.
Has anybody seen Wendy?
I have.
She's right here waiting on the line.
Hi, Wendy.
How are you?
Hi.
Hello.
Doing all right.
Good.
What's going on?
Minnesota feels like we have less news.
about it, but I'm sure things are still pretty weird.
Are they weird?
Do you just, the algorithm got changed for everybody?
Yeah.
That's all it is, you know?
You go to your phone and go, oh, it's all about Jim Carrey and a, and a, and a, Iran thing now.
And are we just going to forget some of the other things?
I don't know.
It's always been this way.
It's just a larger scale of misinformation now, right?
Yeah.
Well, and it just gets your attention and other things got missed and now other things are
getting attention and it's getting missed.
I don't know. Maybe it's conspiratorial and it's just trying to.
Yeah, I'm starting to be a conspiracy terrorist myself.
I can't be attention to certain things. I don't know.
Yep. I'm flat earthing by the end of the week. That's my plan.
I'm getting all in. I'm going all in, man. Why not?
When you can't beat them, join them. Right. Is that the deal?
Right. Yeah, you should just be a jerk.
Yeah, let's be a jerk about it. Well, Wendy, it's good to have you here.
Wendy is, of course, a real therapist who helps us with your problems on Thursdays.
in a little segment we call Therapy Thursday.
And we got one today from somebody who needs our help desperately.
And so we're going to read it.
Here it is.
Hello, all, says this person.
I am 53 years old, never married, and never had a serious girlfriend.
I've suffered from severe social anxiety my entire life, along with depression and anxiety.
I lived in Utah for 10 years, but recently moved back to Missouri, the place I grew up, to be close to family.
I didn't make it any connections in Utah.
I wish I'd have known he was here.
We could have gone to lunch or something.
Mm-hmm.
Anyway, over the last couple of years, I've suffered from panic and anxiety attacks so frequently that I've had to quit my job and stay at home most of the day.
Now I'm jobless and feel more alone, even though my family is nearby.
They, sorry, they have been understanding, but a little fed up with me.
My self-esteem has always been low, but it may be at its lowest now.
Let's see, you know what I'd love to do?
Go to Nerdtacular, but it feels like an impossibility.
In social situations, I go numb and mute.
No one wants me around because I don't say anything.
I just feel terrible.
I haven't been able to find a therapist since I've moved.
So will you be my therapist today?
Thanks for all you do.
M. in KC. Missouri, Kansas City, go chiefs.
So, or not.
I forgot Wendy's got an NFL team.
Wendy has an NFL team.
Go Vikings. Just say go Vikings.
Go Vikings.
Yeah, even though they were very disappointing to share.
Anyway, this is a dark, kind of a dark one and probably somewhat relatable.
And I'll bet so many of us in the community probably experience this to different degrees, right?
Like, you know, I probably have about 20% of this.
Sometimes it's like I see a group of people playing a board game and I walk up and I'm like, oh, I don't want to interrupt them.
I don't want to, you know, I don't want to jump in.
They're already in the middle of the game, but, you know, I'll play the next one or something like that.
Sure.
Yeah, you'd be surprised how, like I've talked about on the show before, not in a great detail or anything.
but, and it's not nearly what it used to be, but about 10 years ago, I was having panic attacks
probably a few times a week. Like, they were bad. And I didn't really talk on the show much,
but they, for whatever reason, they're lesser and less now. And, but they happen once in a while.
Like, I had one right around the time my mom died and it was a gnarly one. Oh, geez. And the good thing
is knowing what they are helps, because then you're not panicking about not knowing what's wrong with you.
If you know what a panic attack is while it's happening,
it's incredibly helpful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can say this isn't real.
This is,
you know,
I mean,
it's real,
but this isn't,
this is something.
A little pass.
I can deal with this.
Yeah,
I'm not actually dying.
And also,
right.
There's also some freedom and going,
being able to say,
this is one of those panic attacks.
I know that.
And even if it isn't,
it's okay.
It's a weird thing to find peace with that.
But that's where I had to kind of find it.
And again, this is like a weird chemical, like, bring, who knows why I got him.
But I don't really get him that often anymore once in a while now.
So him describing himself as suffering from panic and anxiety attacks, that alone is enough for you not to want to go around anybody.
I get it.
Like, it's kind of like the anti-social gene when you have those.
And then you're like, and now I'm going to go to a party with.
Two people I know, but like eight, I don't know.
And I need to be fun and responsive and know what I'm doing and try not to have one of these panic attacks while I'm there.
Like it's a really, that's hard as crap to do that.
So anyway, but Wendy, where do you want to take this before I?
So real quick, I did not get consent to treat you today, but can I ask you a couple questions about your panic attack history?
Prior to your doctor prescribing you Xanax that one time and you, you're getting off.
Yeah.
Those real quick.
Yeah.
Did you have panic attacks before that?
No.
Uh, that's not true.
I had one in Las Vegas once in the 90s and I had one at a dinner party.
Oh, the one you had was that the one you had in Las Vegas?
Was that at the, um, podcast expo?
No, no, no.
This would have been way before that.
Although not that far from that because that was 0.8.
Um, and the withdrawals and the, and the cold turkey from my bad doctor's advice.
Who by the way, did I mention Wendy?
Uh,
isn't you?
Uh,
he was stripped.
What,
what happened to him?
They took his license and then I can't remember what else.
There was some other impact of it.
I'm not surprised.
And then he died eventually of some other,
I don't know what,
but,
um,
anyway,
this guy,
basically I'd gone in,
here's the short story.
I go in the guy,
uh,
with headaches,
it's having headaches at work.
They're just tension headaches.
But I don't know nothing.
I'm like 34 or something.
I don't know anything.
And he says,
well,
here, take these.
And,
and it gives me this.
bottle and I don't know what they are. And it's not even, Xanax isn't even the name. It's like,
yeah. But it's a benzodiazio. Yeah, it was a generic version of that. So I didn't even recognize
the name. And he said, and I wasn't doing any research. He says, here it is, follow the
instructions. The instructions said, take three of these a day every day. And so I did that for a month
and then started to feel real bad all the time. Wow. And I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me.
And I was experiencing tolerance withdrawals. I had hit the tolerance level.
And the only point or the only choice there was to get more of the stuff or to stop this.
I didn't realize what I was doing.
I had no idea.
I feel so stupid about it.
I mean, you were trusting.
You were trusting what a health professional told you to do.
It's what, what.
Yeah.
You know this memory, Scott?
My memory, as you said to me, yeah, I was on these benzodiazepies and I just stopped.
And I remember just going, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Well, by the time, by the time I told you.
It was two months into it.
And I would never do that again.
Here's another dumb thing I did.
I should have talked to someone who actually knew what they were doing, probably Wendy,
and said, hey, what's the way to do this?
And they would have come up with a weaning plan.
And, you know, you'd go with a longer half-life version and you work your way.
I know about all these things now.
But at the time, I just was like, I need to be rid of this.
This wasn't a thing I ever wanted in my life.
I am dumping this as hard and as fast as I can.
Well, as a result, I ended up with a whole bunch of crazy side effects that lasted years and years and years.
And even today, some stuff still comes up where it feels tied to that.
So yes, chronic panic attacks and anxiety attacks, those didn't start till after this.
Yeah.
Before that, it was a random thing.
Yeah.
So that was so, again, the chemical thing, I'm not saying it came out the womb like this.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, I know.
But you have, there's some sort of pre.
pre there's words today i'm really not going on
predetermination is not the word
it's like someone was trying to i was trying to say that
the romulans and the capulets i was trying to talk about
shakespeare i would watch that
my clients like i don't know what you're saying i'm like
you know like the sharks and the jets but it's the romulans
romulan oh romulan we're far at the romulan
so i'm doing
great today. Anyway, but you had a pre-predile addiction? What's the word?
Predile predisposition. Predisposition. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. It's not even a hard point. Anyway. Fred 818 in the chat or 819 in the chat.
Oh, someone got it. Nice job. My brain frog is real today. Anyway, brain, brain fog.
Yeah. So, you said brain frog. Sure. Brain frog. I am so sorry to M and Casey. This is going to be full going. Anyway. No, but the reason I wanted that like,
establish that because so often, you know, we think we have maybe the, the situation of our
genetics or our neurochemistry or growing up, you know, we're just kind of primed for it or something
or another. We're all going to be a little bit different there, right? But typically, we do not,
you don't get panic attacks just like out of nowhere for no reasons, right? It's because your
nervous system has absolutely, it's ready to like, you.
you are going to die, you must do something now.
It's like the very extreme of having fight or flight or, you know, anxiety just peaking, right?
And so social anxiety is often an easy target for the panic attack situation because if we're
having social anxiety and so much of life requires some social energy, right?
I got to go to the store.
I've got to talk to a stranger.
You know, all of those various things.
And then, and now in modern life, we have so many ways to not.
actually interact socially so that we are less and less and less practiced, which means we are
inadvertently telling our whole system that people are scarier and scarier and scarier, right?
You actually have to have experience where they're not scary to increase this feeling of safety.
So it usually comes from somewhere.
And then we have what you had, and that's why I wanted to ask, because there is really like
a biological bump into that territory.
and cold turkey off of benzo will do that to a lot of people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a bad choice.
It was 22 years ago, by the way, when I started them.
It was only a month of taking them.
So for a month of that, thinking I was doing what the doctor ordered and feeling pretty
stone the whole time, I'll have to admit.
Yeah.
And then that and then these withdrawals happening.
And to have a thing carry forward so hard.
so long for 22 years still to this day there are aspects of it that i can that are still part of me um
that is a wild thing to think about that you could do a thing for a month and then for the next
however many months 22 years is you you have to it has to be a part of your your day like right now
the nice thing now like i said i got i got some great advice and help and stuff on how to recognize
real things from panic attacks and that sort of thing.
And now I can shut them down real quick.
I can get one because just stress piles up or there's a lot going on or like I said,
right around when mom died, I was having one.
And for obvious reasons, feels like that's a stressful thing.
And I see it and I know what it is and I can breathe through it.
And 20 minutes later, I'm back.
So that's where I'm at today.
And I'm three years older than this guy.
Yeah.
So maybe that's somehow, I don't know, maybe it's this.
Yeah.
Well, you, I'm so glad all of that is, you can do that because that is, you figured out the answer.
And there's a couple of things I want to talk to him about specifically that he can do that have the answer built in.
And in the case you're describing, you have learned to breathe through them.
And you're not just breathing through them.
You are actually breathing in a way that tells your system you're not dying and that there is no reason to be panicking.
So you're establishing biological safety with your breathing.
So just real quick, I want to tell everyone this.
I know we do our fun breathing every once while I'm here.
But one of the key components to why breathing works and why, you know, when people would
hyperventilate and breathe into a bag on TV, it's actually not helpful.
So don't do that.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Unless your exhales are longer than your inhales.
But I think of a breathing in a bag where you're like, I can't breathe in this.
You're going to panic more as my thought.
But it's that your inhales isn't what is actually calming you.
Yes, you want more oxygen.
That's important.
But think of panic.
Think of running, thinking of running from a tiger.
You are inhaling plenty quickly, getting, you know, right?
That fast pace.
And you think of what a panic attack is.
It is more inhale, right?
But when you exhale and you exhale slower,
that is the thing that activates our parasympathetic nervous system
that's like, and let's calm this bad boy down, or our sympathetic, right?
Calm it down.
We are fine.
We're in a position where we can breathe out long.
And it just does biologically what we need it to do to tell our system that we are safe.
So anytime you can get some oxygen and then breathe out slower.
So like I was on a field trip with a bunch of little kids and this girl had a panic attack.
And we just work through breathing out long, like breathe with me.
and we would breathe and like hold hands and just breathe as long as we could out of our mouth.
And it calmed her right down.
And that's because you need those biological signals to essentially reset what's happening.
So that's key.
So it sounds like Scott, you figured that out.
You know how to, you know, think about it.
Yeah.
It's an intensely, it's an intensely unpleasant experience regardless.
Just very unpleasant.
It feels like you're the, it's the worst feeling ever.
when you know what it is.
But you
what you've described
is how I handle it now.
Some of the chat says something interesting.
Scott's describing his present,
a bit like my present,
and slowly becoming
RE panic and triggers.
There are triggers.
Triggers for me are things
I can't control,
like things in the world,
you know,
bombing a country
that I can't help do anything about
or awful stuff happening
in our own streets or whatever,
those things.
But then, like today, Kim's mom's probably going to pass today.
So we got all new levels of that, right?
And I just mentioned the last time this happened to his mom passing a few months ago, a couple months ago.
So it's when things pile up.
And at the meantime, it's like, well, and plus I got to maintain the status quo.
And I think I told Wendy a private message a while ago that one of the hard things about this problem can be or is that I,
I got to get on here also and kind of smile and joke and have a good time.
You know what I mean?
And when you're not feeling that way or when you're feeling these intense other feelings,
very hard to make sense of all that.
And that sometimes will add up to a panic.
It's like a full-blown panic attack.
Absolutely.
And then when those happen, Wendy is absolutely right.
Your instinct is like, need more air.
What you should do is blow that crap out and just fill the room with your freaking
fish breath or whatever you got going.
because that really makes a difference.
Like, it's crazy.
Sorry, just wanted to reiterate that.
No, that's great.
And also,
you brought up something that I think many people are going to relate to,
and that is masking.
So you're going to get on and smile and tell jokes.
And some of that is like authentic, right?
And you've got to warm up to it or whatever.
But it is also, if you were going to just talk about what's really happening,
it wouldn't be jokes, right?
So there's a mask we put on,
and a lot of us have to do this in,
in a lot of areas of life, you go into a meeting and do a presentation. You're not wearing your,
like, my pajama, home comfy self. I am masked up as a professional or I'm, I got my mask to handle
whatever. And our emailer is talking about this exact thing in social situations is there,
there is my real self is not safe here. And I can tell because my nervous system is telling me. So
that comes from low self-esteem. That comes from, you know, some other source here. And,
And so the mask I'd have to put on is like, I'm fine and I'm here to be your friend.
And it can be an exhausting attempt to mask in front of others to be loved and accepted.
And it doesn't often work because people are meeting a mask.
They're not meeting you.
And so you can be incredibly lonely in these social situations and develop very strong sensitivities to being rejected, thinking everyone's looking at you.
And so this social anxiety is like a vicious cycle.
Every time you go into one of those without, you know, with the mask on,
maybe the mask is skewed.
Maybe you reveal a little of your real self and the record scratch happens,
whatever, right?
You have all sorts of ways that society is saying, no, don't be yourself.
So you are not.
And that is exhausting.
And so that is part of what leads to, like you're saying,
you mask up for any reason.
and have to function, that is exhausting.
And if we're doing that and then we're bombarding ourselves with the news and terrible things we can't control and maybe one of our relationships is slipping or, you know, you pile things on.
And then our system is just like, are you freaking kidding?
I mean, I'm done. Ready?
Panic, right?
Heart racing, sweaty, clammy.
You get the whole nine yards of a heart attack, right?
That's what happens.
Yeah.
Tingly fingers, pain in your chest.
Like all that stuff comes with it.
If it sounds horrible,
if it sounds horrible and you've never had one of these,
freaking it is, dude.
It's the worst.
It sucks.
Absolutely sucks in every possible way of describing it.
Cold sweats.
Like all that.
Yeah.
It's really bad.
Kim's had like two in her entire life.
And she's like,
that's what these feel like?
And I'm like, yeah.
She goes,
oh my gosh,
I'm so sorry.
And you do this.
How often does this happen?
Yeah.
Back then it was like weekly for me.
But yeah.
Yeah.
And one,
we should just say,
one thing for like a quick PSA.
When you are having
a heart attack,
there is like a
crushing, radiating pain that
worsens over time
and is often triggered by
some kind of exertion. If you're just sort of
sitting there, it's a little more rare, but you know,
it does happen. Whereas a panic attack often is
sharp, stabbing, localized chest pains.
Which often will prompt the
in the moment. The panic part, right?
Right. Right. You may be getting
that tightness just from being stressed
and then your brain goes, oh no,
what if that's a heart or not? Exactly.
Yeah. And the location
for a heart attack,
it radiates arms,
next jaw back, panic is typically
stays in your chest.
Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes that's just a helpful
thing to know.
And also if you've experienced this,
you've, you know, already you've experienced it, right?
Most people first panic attacks,
they go to the hospital. Really common because
they don't know the difference. But so
obviously takes serious the experience.
Yeah, it is very uncomfortable.
It's terrible.
No one likes it.
And you can see where if you continue to maybe avoid all the triggers that got you
to that panic state, then the belief is you'll be safe, right?
But that would mean removing anything that maybe also had a lot of good to it.
So let's take the social stuff, for example.
So you just further isolate yourself and then,
now you're much more prone to not having a good experience the next time you're interacting
with people because you're not practicing, you're not getting to the core of what, you know,
maybe help you need in order to overcome certain things. And we just make it worse. That's what's so
cruel about anxiety generally is that the more we feel safe, the more unsafe in the broad sense we
we become. So a stimulus scares me. I avoid it. That is human. That's how we've survived for a long
time, right? But if that stimulus is friends or that stimulus is laughing in a group or if that stimulus
is feeling like I belong, that is to our detriment and we have to do something about it. So this is why
you often need help. Is someone helps you face that stimulus and learn to calm your body
and to take off your mask and to learn to love yourself? Like all of those components means you can
slowly begin to, you know, go towards the things that scare you and be okay. And our brains will
learn. And they learn like, oh, I'm okay, actually. Right. So you did that in 20 minutes, Scott.
That would have been a hospital visit for most people. It was for me early on. I didn't know what was
going on. So trust me, these ER visits happen. And like Wendy says, don't, you know, sometimes
take it seriously. Take it seriously. But after a few of those, I went, I'm not doing this again.
is this? Like why? You know what I mean? Like I can now take the thing that used to make me
have to not even be able to drive. Someone else is going to have to take me. Good thing Kim loves
driving me around. Let's go to the hospital. Hates how I drive. Imagine how much you'd hate how
I drive if I drove with a panic attack. Yeah. No kidding. I might. It's been done. I'm sure.
Yeah. But I go in there. Oh, I've driven with panic attacks. I can tell you stories. Anyway,
but you go in there and they, well, we can't find anything. And then you go home and go.
go, what the hell was that then?
Versus now where I can go, oh, here we go.
All right, you old bugger, how are you doing it today?
Oh, is it going to be one of these sweaty ones?
Okay, cool.
Well, anyway, I'm going to breathe through it.
Like, that is kind of the attitude I have now.
It's actually maybe a little too far that way because if something was actually going
wrong, if I was having an actual heart attack, I think I would still just be sitting there
trying to breathe through it.
I think that's what I would do.
Well, just real quick, a panic attack peaks at about 10 minutes.
If it goes longer than 10 minutes, then go to the hospital.
Okay.
All right.
Good advice.
And if the pain will move, it'll radiate out instead of just stay in the center of your chest.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's make this apply to M a little bit here.
He describes going numb and mute.
Okay.
So he's not saying, I'm panicking in these social situations, but he is a close second to that,
which is he's in absolute freeze mode, which is, you know, every guard is up, every, you know,
we got to save you.
We are in distress, fight or flight, right?
that he's got the freeze response, which no one loves the freeze response.
In fact, that's the one that makes us all feel kind of the worst.
Yeah.
You know, for a mouse who freezes in a, you know, a dog's mouth, it works wonders.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
But for humans, we tend to have a lot of bad stories about ourselves if we're freezers, right?
That we're not brave.
We're terrible.
You know, whatever, I could have done something and I did nothing.
And our trauma actually lasts a lot longer and goes a lot deeper when we're freezers.
We don't get to choose, though.
We don't go like, all right, I want to be a freezer today.
No.
And that's kind of what's happening here is he's freezing.
And then he believes no one wants them around because he's not talking.
He feels terrible.
Cycle continues, right?
So we're going to find you a therapist, M.
You send me an email.
I'm going to find you somebody in Kansas City because there's some great ones.
And I'll do half the work for it.
You just have to do the final calls.
But truly, this is very treatable stuff.
This has been going on a long time
And there are ways to help him
Live in his body and in his brain better
They really, really are
But then I'm going to suggest something that might feel a little crazy
And that is, and you two can talk about this
But I'm maybe going to Nurtacular feels way too soon
And way too fast, but I don't know a better place
I don't know a better place on earth
To go and see another couple people standing
watching numb and mute.
And feeling out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And everyone working on trying to connect and so many warm, lovely, lovely humans inviting
you in.
Yeah.
Right.
This is not.
Big agree.
It's not a board game circle of, you know, egotistical jocks you're trying to join.
Right.
Some of you are jocks.
Don't get me wrong.
Sure.
Right.
Like lovely kind.
Very nice jocks.
find the best of the best.
So if you're going to do any kind of exposure therapy with your social anxiety,
this is the spot.
And let us know you're coming.
Like,
meet us,
right?
This is,
this,
you don't have to do this alone.
And we get it.
And everyone gets it.
That's the difference between like this and maybe like a job convention or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you're saying,
I'm going to go to a dental convention for that kind of experience,
you probably aren't going to get it.
But.
Yeah.
And this, you know, I mean, maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe those are great.
And, but the, but this one is.
A tech sales bro conference.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
No.
They, they, they, they, I don't know, I have a story I'll tell later.
But they coming to this thing is that you'll never find a more accepting more, uh, ready to, to, to, to be friendly and helpful group of people.
Rich and hive of friendliness.
Of friendliness and civility.
Yeah.
And sociality.
Yeah.
That's a great way.
And people who get it.
Like, they don't need you to be.
talkative. They don't need you to be, you know, something that you're not yet.
No. That's rare. Yeah, it is rare. And that's why we celebrate it. And we'd love to have you there.
Plus, you've lived here for 10 years. So you kind of already know the area.
And the lay of the land. Yeah. We can hang out. But also send me an email because we can find
someone who works with this specifically and can really help. I have watched people over and over
in my career and in my life who when they have the courage to face a fear with support,
with good science, with, I mean, it's game changing. It is, it returns a life to you. Maybe you
never have had. And that is, I mean, you're 53 years young, dude. We got, we got a time and life
and things to contribute that have yet to happen. And part of this is this weird human,
glitch of survival, which puts some of us when it's practiced over and over into this position
of feeling debilitated.
Whereas, you know, someone else is going to face that fear and grow.
And, you know, and a lot of us, this starts in childhood.
And so there's some things to work through.
You need someone who knows what they're doing to be helpful.
So reach out.
Let's find you some help and, you know, please come to an attack.
Yeah.
And don't do like I did 22 years ago.
I literally am related to a mental health expert who,
could have given me all the right advice for dealing the stupid doctor stuff I was dealing with
and how to move on from it and deal with it in the time. But guess who I didn't talk to? I didn't talk
to Wendy at all because I was prideful about it. I didn't want her to think I was broken. I didn't
want other people to think that. I didn't want my problems to be other people's problems.
And that's a thing that makes sense in the moment because you're just like, well, I'm independent.
And I got to keep my independence. I can't just suddenly I need everybody's health.
it was the wrong move.
So don't do like I did.
You know, so.
And goodness, that dude lost his.
Oh, yeah.
That guy sucked.
That's crazy.
For sure,
way worse things happened than what happened to you if that happened, you know.
He also had the,
he had the,
had the,
had the fakesest eyebrows.
That guy put extra eyebrows on.
Just things I noticed.
You should have known.
I know.
Wow.
When do you talk about a mask?
Is the easiest place for him to go is the,
um,
no better you.com and use that.
The contact there?
Yeah.
I think it's info or hey at no better you.com.
That's the best way to reach me.
Okay.
Yeah.
We'll do that.
And also go there too, everybody.
Everybody should go there.
And also, I mean, my heart just ached when I read his email.
I'm like, oh, we, you came to the right place, buddy.
Let's let's, let's help you.
Yeah.
Because normally I can't be like, here's your problem.
Also, there's this amazing community you should meet with.
Right?
Like, it's pretty awesome.
So I, he came to the.
right spot. But speaking of the right spot, okay. So we got some fun stuff coming up at KBU.
I'm going to do a webinar in a couple of weeks about neurodiversity. And if you got a little
neuro-spicy brain, little ADHD, little autism, little feeling like, I don't belong. That we're
going to do, we'll do a nice deep dive coming up in a couple weeks. So if I don't have your email,
please give it to me. Just go to Know Better You.com and you can just
stick it in that.
She will not sell your information.
I will not.
I even know how people do that.
I was going to say, you'd have to teach her how to do it before she's going to do it.
I don't know how to do it.
I don't know how to do it.
I don't know how to do it.
Yeah.
I think you're safe.
Yeah.
But it's going to be a,
it'll be a fun one.
And I think a lot of people have been asking for elements of this.
And I think it might.
Yeah.
Feels like time.
Get over there.
No better you.
That's K-N-O-W better than the letter you.
dot com and uh windy it's always good talking to you hope i hope all your words come back to you later
today i love that brain frogs by now brain frogs oh my gosh we're gonna make t-shirts or hats or
something i like brain frogs yeah actually you know what i want to do i want to do this i want to do a
shirt based on something you said you said where is it it would be a very nerdy star wars thing
you'll not find a more wretched hive of humility and kindness or something like that oh you have uh
friendship and kindness.
That's it.
Friendship and sociability or something.
Sociality is better because it's like closer to the word he used.
Social ability.
Sociality.
Sociality.
Yeah.
I think we should make a shirt, dude.
That's fun.
I love it.
All right.
Anyway, you guys are.
I have a cartoon idea too.
I want to talk to you off the air about it.
Oh, I like cartoon ideas.
I have this great idea for a cartoon.
I just don't have the skills to draw it.
And you do.
And I think it'd be hilarious.
I'm going to go ahead and make a statement that I don't think is controversial.
I think Brian does have the skills to do it because I've seen him draw.
He's quite good.
But yeah, it's true.
By the way, here's where my brain's at.
This is a comic I did yesterday.
I saw that, yeah.
The people aren't, we're not feeling good up here, everybody.
All right, we are going to now do what.
We're going to get out of here.
Thanks, everybody for listening.
We'll be back for a TMS Friday tomorrow.
Brian's appointment's not until next Wednesday.
That's right. One week from yesterday, I am up the pooper and out the back without any issues. It's going to be great. You're going to be like, you're going to. No nodules or polyps. That's the word that I was looking for it. Terrible word. I hate that word. Pestules. Pustules is what some reason was coming up with. Pestules. Festules. I think it'll go great. And everybody out there listening, if you're 45 or older or have risk factors, get in there.
and get your stuff done.
Yeah, get it done.
It's the best nap you'll ever have.
You'll wish it lasted longer.
Unless yours starts with a guy jamming a tube up your butt early.
But as long as he doesn't do that.
Hey, Doc, buy me a drink first.
I don't know why he got started early.
When I told this story to my general lady physician lady last week when I had my
checkup appointment, I said, yeah.
She goes, so you did your colonoscopy?
I said, yeah, I did it in March last year.
Everything came out great, no issues.
And she says, oh, that's good.
there were no problems and I said well other than the doctor starting early and she goes
what do you mean he started early so I had to explain the whole story and she's like well
they're not supposed to do that that is they're supposed to wait until you're asleep and I'm like
well I'll make sure not to get that guy next time I guess I don't know he was in a hurry
that guy had dinner to go to or something who knows like we mentioned earlier coverville
right after this will raid you and write to your channel I'll just pull up OBS right
now and have it open in the background because you know yeah may as well have it handy also uh speaking
of handies uh today on core uh 1 pm mountain time uh even though the time thing changed john's just
adjusting his schedule so the rest of us just still do it at one so 1 pm mountain time record today
film sack this weekend and as i mentioned tomorrow we'll have a tms friday at 9 a m it'll be live
kind of for everybody but the patrons get all the goodies so watch for that that's tomorrow and also frogpans
dot com slash schedule for any of your scheduling questions or needs.
We have one need left and that is to play a song.
Can you play it?
Yes.
This is fun.
Tom Robinson,
who writes us every year.
Hello,
boys.
March 12th is here again.
So it's time for my annual birthday request.
It's the big 59 for me.
Whoa.
Yeah,
no kidding.
And it's been after,
it's been a year since my wife passed away.
I've always been told to stay busy so you don't dwell on the past.
So I can.
refurbished my house and yard. I also decided to visit Eastern Europe going to Chisna,
Moldova, Riga, Latvia, and Krakow and Warsaw in Poland.
For this trip, that's cool.
Yeah, sorry.
Totally, yeah.
For this trip, I started to learn to speak Russian.
Funny thing, though, I only ever needed English on the trip, but I've continued to learn it as something to use my brain.
For Scott, please play a random film sack clip and try and guess the movie.
Oh my gosh.
All right.
When he does this.
Here's a random one.
Oops, here we go.
Nope, that is not it right there.
All right, here we go.
A random, I'm not looking.
Okay.
They're all going to laugh at you.
Oh, that's easy.
Oh, well, there you go.
It's Carrie.
Carrie.
Yeah, the mom and Carrie.
Piper Lori.
Mm-hmm.
It's a fun one because we turn that one on all the time with,
oh, I can't find my echo button here anymore.
used to have it very prominently
I always forget what's assigned to mine
Which panel it is yeah
I think this one no that's not it
Hello no
Yeah I don't know which one's mine
Voice disguised crickets
Oh
I don't think I have an echo voice on here anymore
This one I'm monster
Brian listen
Welcome to the new
Morning Street
People would hate us if we did a whole lot of just said, hey, how's it going?
Hey, man.
What's going on, man?
I love it.
Or just raise my pitch up a little bit.
Hey, hey, everybody.
What's going on?
That's terrible.
It's so bad.
I love it, though.
It's what we sounded like on film sack, you know, 10 years ago.
Sure.
All right.
We're going to watch the movie crawl.
Let's see.
It's got a guy throwing
glaves everywhere.
Yeah.
What's with all these
blades? I'll link up the robot.
Anyway.
Good stuff. That's all you're going to get this week,
folks, from that. I can promise you that.
Tom Robinson ends with
Vesely Villune,
or Leune, which is fun in June.
He's looking forward to nerdacular as well.
We'll see him there.
Sweet.
Yeah.
So Tom requested a cover of Not Fade Away performed by the band Foreigner.
This is Not Fade Away is one of those classic rock songs that everybody feels like they need to cover at some point or another.
The Rolling Stones did it very early on.
Stevie Nix did it just recently.
Foreigner did it.
They do it live.
And that's the version we're going to play today.
From their live collection, here is Foreigner covering Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Not Fade Away.
Thanks for listening.
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