The Morning Stream - TMS 2981: Never go full pie
Episode Date: March 23, 2026Dig Your Own Grave & Save! First dead, first served. I don't like cups with cat PEEEEEEEE! We taste with our smell. Douche Noodle. None Of This Is Live. None Of This Is Real. It ain't legal until ...its done in Mississippi. Cat Urine is an Acquired Taste. Nobody goes to secret pizza because its too busy. Playing the Leo Moment. He Ordered A Virgin. He Didn't Get A Virgin. A Nice Healthy Pork-Based Breakfast. Toe-to-Toe with Crow. Perfect diner food. His Name Is Balls w Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, dig your own grave and save.
First dead, first served.
I don't like cups with cat pee.
We taste with our smell.
Dush noodle.
None of this is live.
None of this is real.
It ain't legal until it's done in Mississippi.
Cat urine is an acquired taste.
Nobody goes to secret pizza because it's too busy.
Playing the Leo moment.
He ordered a virgin.
He didn't get a virgin.
A nice healthy pork-based breakfast.
To toe to toe with crow.
Perfect diner food.
His name is Balls with Nicole.
And more on this episode of the morning stream.
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That guy sneezes into the moment.
meet. The morning stream. I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle. Hello everybody and welcome TMS. It is the morning stream for March and Monday, March 23rd, 2026. I am Scott. That is Brian. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome. TMS. It is the morning stream for March. March 23rd.
2026. I am Scott. That is Brian. Hello. Hello. Welcome to another brand new week of TMS. Yeah, baby.
This is not a recording. Yep. I mean, look. I mean, it might be a recording, actually. If you're listening to this as a podcast, this is a recording.
Oh, that's true. Yeah. Anybody who hears this after we're live, it's a recording. It's a recording.
It's a recording. Actually, you know what? Everybody, we even are on a seven second, six second.
Oh, that's true. Even they're technically hearing it as a recording. The live people are hearing a recording. Yeah, it's true.
None of this is live. None of this is real.
starting to feel existential dread.
It's only live to us.
Like, I'm hearing you live, or you're hearing me live.
We're the only people here in each other live.
Yep.
That's in there, and there it ends.
Good night, everybody.
Just kidding.
We're here.
We're here for a full day.
We got Dunaway coming up.
We got recommendals in the cold a little later.
Excited about all this stuff.
Another rough weekend here at the Johnson House.
Had another funeral to deal with.
And went fine.
Funerals go.
But, boy, I'll tell you, doing.
two of those in two months is not a
that is not a thing I'd like to repeat.
No, I'm sure.
Now,
frequency sucks, man.
It feels like there's probably,
there's got to be some relief that,
because she,
you know,
was going back and forth for so long,
Kim's mom.
And,
and,
you know,
you guys were doing all your grieving
during that whole time.
So there's like probably a little bit of,
all right,
you know,
a little bit,
yeah.
Kind of passed all the,
the horror.
I mean, I know Kim is headed out to Mississippi.
Yeah, she leaves on Thursday.
All the siblings are going and her dad.
And then they're going to go lay her ashes to rest down in by La Cray, which is this area they all grew up in.
And then be there for a funeral, another funeral, and then sort of, you know, see family and all that stuff.
So there's a double funeral.
Another funeral for her or?
For her for the locals there.
Gotcha.
Yeah, just did like a second funeral.
It's like our wedding.
We got married here, me and Kim, and then we went to Mississippi for a second wedding.
Oh, did you really?
Yeah.
For all that half of the family.
Like a second reception?
Did you guys also do the vows thing there too?
We did a ring ceremony type thing, but it was a little different than the one up here.
It wasn't legally binding down there.
Although, you can bury your sister in Mississippi, so.
It's all allowed.
I mean, it's all, yeah.
Just kidding.
That's not true.
They have some laws.
They do have this thing that's crazy down there.
You can, if you need to have a grave, you don't have to do the thing like we did up here for my parents or anybody else where you have to like register ahead and buy a plot, even if it's years ahead and you own the plot and you have the ownership title and all that stuff.
Down there, there's just this big community cemetery in their town and you just grab a open spot.
Really?
Yeah.
It's like going.
It's like flying southwest before they changed it to the sign seating.
Exactly.
Finally open spot.
There's your eternal resting place.
Isn't that weird?
Wow.
That is weird.
I still think it's kind of wacky.
But they're like, no, it's partly because I'm, you know, it's a very small town.
Yeah.
There are people buried there.
It's like old west rules kind of thing.
And there'll be like a body there that's like, you know, a buried in 1831 and then six feet from something from last year.
It's like really, really weird that way.
Wow. Wow.
And a lot of them are mostly ashes because if you bury, it's true in New Orleans.
The reason everyone always wonders why in New Orleans, everything's like big on top mausoleum looking stuff, like that cool.
Those cool, yeah, those cool cemeteries.
Yeah.
Like huge stones and giant sarcophagus looking things.
It's because the rain or the water table is.
Ground water, yeah.
Yeah, it'll just, the bodies will float.
Yeah.
Oh, geez.
Can't have that. Anyway, it went fine. And Kim just wanted me to express on TMS her thanks to everybody for all the kind of words and nice thoughts. It was very nice for everybody. And she's... We love you guys. And you've got our hearts for this stuff that you've been going through for such a long time.
I got one of the hearts someone gave me as a little fatty. I'm a little worried about them. Yeah.
Is that the... I'm not sure whose it is. They didn't put a name on it.
Okay. I thought you're talking about the pie, which, man, what a great time for pie.
Like the last thing I ate before my colonoscopy.
So like it was the Monday night.
Like, all right, no food after 7 p.m.
It's like, all right.
Well, you know what?
In 6.55, I'm having a slice of pie.
Yeah.
Thanks, but you all like you.
The man.
You rock, dude.
You know what I really like?
These little half pies that he sent.
Oh, you guys get a little half pies?
Yeah.
They sent us the little like in the, well, they're packaged.
I guess Costco has them too.
Yeah.
But they're packaged like as a half moon of a pie.
Okay.
And that's great because.
because I shouldn't have a whole pie here.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I can vouch for that.
It's too tempting.
I'd want to go get it all the time.
That's funny.
Wow.
Anyway, it's a thing you can do.
Hey, everybody.
Let's get to it today.
We've got a few things going on.
Brian, you had some fun last year over the weekend.
So Saturday night was a Cardo Mammoth game.
We are like, I think we were fourth in the league.
We might have moved up.
close to the top. We've clinched a playoff
birth. I mean, this is going to be hopefully
a really good postseason for the
Colorado Mammoth who've gone to
the final several times, won the championship
a couple times since we've been
since they've been here in Colorado. We've had
season tickets almost from the beginning, so
it's been great. But kind of
a ritual that we have
is that we'll go out to dinner with the
crazy neighbors because Crazy Neighbor Dave
has the seat directly in front of me.
It's basically
the aisle and then this little
space where they just happen to jam
two padded folding
chairs and
one right in front of the other.
Nobody to our left, nobody to our right.
There's a nice little bar where we can
rest our arms. We can set our drink
on the floor next to us. It's like really comfortable.
You guys plan that?
Like you were like, we're getting tickets as close or whatever
in seats. We
so the first season we went,
we actually got invited by
a friend of Dave's name
Jeff Scarborough. He's like, well, I've
got two extra seats. I bought a six pack of season
tickets. It's me, the wife, our two
kids, and we've got these two extra seats.
So, you know, if you and Brian
want to come, take those seats, if
the kids don't want to go, bring the wives, etc.
So that was our first season.
We're like, oh, this is great. We're having a blast.
We're getting our own season tickets the
next year. And so we did.
And we've been,
we basically got the
four seats next
to his. He gave
up his two of his, and then we
got two more. So we were on the aisle,
Jeff Garborough and his four seats, then we're on our left.
And then we saw, well, there's those two
seats up there that like
those have got to be available
for season tickets.
So for a while, we had
two on the aisle for Tina and Kerry.
And then on the other side of the aisle,
it was me and Dave,
you know, a single file
facing the right on the glass.
We're basically, he's on the glass, I'm right
behind him. They're fantastic
seats right in the corner. Yeah, they've always sounded really
Good.
And then the ladies said, you know, we don't need to go all the time.
And we said, cool, we're going to get rid of those two seats we've been putting you in.
So now it's just our two season ticket seats.
They give us freebies every season.
So basically we can bring them to a game or two.
And then they get to come to at least one game of season.
But for the most part, it's just the two of us.
Nice.
So beforehand, we always grab dinner.
And sometimes it's just me and Dave on the way to the stadium.
But sometimes the ladies go with us.
And we'll usually go to, go next door to the crazy neighbor's house,
have a drink in the basement, glass of wine or whatever,
and say, oh, where do we want to go for dinner beforehand?
And Tina's like, well, I'm going to drive, so just give me water.
So they grab like this little plastic, like a cup that you get around Easter time
from a fast food place for your kid's meal that has like little bunnies and eggs
around the outside of it and put some ice and some water.
And Tina starts drinking it.
She's like, God, the water.
tastes a little funny and they're and and Dave takes a taste he's like well the water tastes fine
but the cup smells weird and then he puts the cup up to his nose and says oh my god our cat
peed on the cup and it's it's Carl this territorial orange tabby with one brain cell um oh that's a
bad combo dude is a bad combo who just like sprayed the bottom row of these plastic cups because
Dave's like, yep, that one.
Yep, that one.
He's like smelling all of them.
Tina, this point is, has run up the stairs and is now like, I think I didn't see what
she's doing, but I assume it was taking a bar of soap and going, ah, yeah.
Yeah, I went Tina 100% on this.
No, she, you know, she put her lips on the side of the cup, which is probably where, you know,
where the taste came from.
Well, I'm part of it.
Ofacturally, we taste with her smell, right?
Yes, we do.
It's very possible she actually ingested no significant.
She may not have ingested any ket urine, but may have smelled it while she was drinking, which is just as bad.
That's horrible, dude.
It was.
It was horrendous.
All right, Dave can no longer do cups.
We're done with cups.
No, we're done with Dave's cups.
We went to this place called the McCoy family restaurant.
And it's like a Denver staple.
It's off the highway.
I-70 right at federal.
I've driven by this thing a billion
times in my life, and I've never
gone inside. And
Tina's like, oh yeah, I went with one of our investigators
a few years ago, and it was actually
pretty good. And so we said, well, let's go there. We've
never been. So we go in, and
it's your typical diner.
Big lung bar
seating with the, you know,
the chairs that swing around.
Big fan.
In front of two giant TVs playing Fox
news.
They're like, okay, that's where we're at.
All right.
But, you know, food was good.
Dave had a pot roast.
I had a, I had a breto called the Federal Grande, because it's kind of, it's, you know,
it's in a more Latin, focused area of town.
And the brido was fan-freakant-tastic.
His pot roast was good.
Tenaed chicken fried chicken, which was really good with the white gravy and mashed potatoes.
Oh, this is all such good diner food.
Perfect, perfect diner food.
You know what, though?
Here's what I would do.
If I owned a place called the McCoys, every hour, I'd have a little dinner play where the Hatfields come in and threaten everybody.
Right, exactly.
You all better get out of here.
The Hatfields are showing up.
You McCoy's better.
And then people come out of the kitchen.
Pew, pew, pew, pew, and just have a whole show.
And then when they bow and leave and do it every hour on the hour and like dinner.
You know those 10 cards that they put on the table, sometimes a little triangular-shaped block with a, you know,
Here's our specials.
Here's our happy hour.
They had one of those.
One side said,
Halffield's menu,
and it looked like the exact same stuff
that was on the regular menu,
and the prices were the same.
I was thinking,
oh, that'd be really funny
if it's at Hatfield's menu,
and the prices were like $20 higher for each thing.
But it looked like it was identical
to the regular menu.
It's like,
maybe the fact that it was only eight things on the list
is like, all right,
if you had Fields,
you get your choice of these eight things.
Yeah, they're just one way or the other.
They're screwing the Hatfields.
Exactly. But Tina's, you know, made name is McCoy.
So it's funny that we finally got to go there.
She have any like history in the family that goes back all that far?
She, she, not to her knowledge, I'm sure you go back far enough and she does because her family's been here forever.
But her dad worked with a guy whose last name was Hatfield.
And he carried the grudge.
He refused to talk to.
Oh, my gosh.
Not as even as a joke. He was serious. He was dead serious. And this was like the 1970s.
Jeez.
This wasn't like 1856. No, this is like 1975. This guy was, you know, this is like 1975.
This guy was, you know, doing this whole. That's crazy to me, dude.
Yeah, exactly. All that time. Like what's even the point?
Right. Right. Especially, you don't live in West Virginia where the fight is real, you know? You're just, you're in Colorado.
Right. Right. Exactly.
It's not even home base for the feud.
Yeah, I don't get that.
That's really strange.
But yeah, like, that stuff that the idea of like eternal family feuds that go on forever and ever.
I find it fascinating.
Oh, for sure.
Just as a thing to know about or study or learn.
And if people haven't there haven't, here's a little extra recommendal today on recommendals day for you.
If you haven't watched that mini series that have pills and McCoys, it's so freaking good.
Bill Paxton, Kevin Costner.
uh, Costner co-created or co-produced and all that. Uh, he was the head of the catfields, I think.
That's how it went. I forget who the McCoys. I can't remember. I can't remember.
But Bill Paxton was amazing as like rival family guy. Yeah. It was really good. A bunch of smaller,
uh, well, actors have gone on to bigger things since, but it's so good. It's so good. And you don't even have to like westerns to like it.
In fact, if anything, it's kind of anti-Western. It's more like it's setting it at a time like that, but it's,
It's really not about that.
It's not really about the Western side of things.
Yeah, exactly.
So,
yeah,
bury your feuds, folks.
As Chris Brown told me this weekend,
uh,
forgiving somebody only takes a second,
but carrying your grudge is a daily grind.
Oh,
man,
Chris,
the real Chris Brown dropping big old wisdom bombs.
He's a wisdom bomb machine.
Yeah.
Hopefully,
hopefully we get,
we get him to nerdtacular.
He's planning on it.
Oh,
that'd be awesome.
I'd love to meet him.
Have I met him?
Have I?
I don't think.
Vegas?
I think he might have been, he might have been at the Vegas thing when you met.
I'm trying to remember who you met at, um, uh, oh, that one year where we met up at Cesar's.
I think Chris Brown might have been there.
That might have been him.
Now that you say it, it's ringing a bell.
Yeah.
I remember that day very vividly for, for a couple reasons.
One, it was extremely hot.
Yeah.
Like Vegas is, right?
Like, yeah, like Vegas is.
And I remember.
being just so sweaty even in this now cooled off place we got to right to that hotel i was so hot
and pitting out dude i was pitting out that yeah yeah i don't know why i remember but man that was when
the the palm had that great appetizer happy hour like for one hour or an hour and a half or something
you could get all their appetizers for like three four bucks each and it was like enough you get a
bunch of those it's a meal for five six people oh yeah easily yeah they were great though that those
sliders were insane.
What else did I get there?
Oh, it was memorable.
It was so good.
And it might have been my first
actionable
Brian Ibitt-Vegis
recommendation thing.
You know, you've always got
these little things like secret
pizza and all that.
Like secret pizza now, I feel like
it's less of a secret than ever before.
But when you first told me about it, it was still
pretty weird.
Yeah.
You've got to go down that hallway of albums.
And so when I, yeah,
So when I went in there for the first time, it was like, oh my gosh, this is the greatest thing ever.
Do I even want to tell people?
Wasn't that you, me and Randy getting pizza?
Yep.
That wasn't that same year, though.
That was, um, oh, what were we doing?
Oh, that wasn't the secret pizza.
The first time you went to see it was in that time.
I don't remember.
Maybe it was.
I think it might have been.
What was Randy there for?
It wasn't a TMS Vegas thing.
No, no.
Was it a.
Yeah, I mean, what would it have been?
I forgot all about that.
Yeah, it was, and I have photos of us there holding a pizza box from secret pizza somewhere.
I can find it in seconds, if you want me to.
But, yeah, no, it's, what was the reason?
Was it, did we do just a meet up there that was a pre?
Because I know you were there for the very beginning of the Iron Man overnight or thing that I did.
You left that.
I was there.
Yeah, I went there for, we were there at least a couple of days, but it was before.
before you left for sure.
We may have got,
or no,
did I,
maybe we did a whole thing
in St.
George or something
the day before.
I don't remember.
But we were there
for a chunk of that
where there was golf
and we did the big golf thing.
What's that called?
Yeah.
What's the golf?
Top golf.
You know,
it's a real hard name to remember.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
But you remember the golf thing
where you sit on top
and you hit balls?
You hit balls like golf,
golf balls up there.
Yeah,
no,
I remember we did all that.
And then when we left,
you went,
it was like this moment of like, all right, I'm still going.
I'm going. I got this.
There's still fuel in the Ibit tank.
Yeah.
So I can tell you the date was January 5th, 2013.
Weird.
At 7.33 p.m.
I don't know what we were doing there, the three of us, but sent you a picture in our Discord.
Oh, let's take a look here.
Look at young.
Oh, my gosh.
Look at us.
Scott Randy and Brian.
Look at these smooth, smooth-faced young boys.
Oh, it's so skinny then.
Yeah.
Wild.
Man, I wish I remembered what that trip was for.
I don't know.
I want to say, I want to say Sam was there, the baby, you know, will.
Was there a, um, was there awards or something now?
Oh, shit.
Was that it where Leo gave, uh, gave, did the awards that year and gave a early ones because
Todd advanced the thing.
Might have been.
Oh, and maybe he was there for a film sack.
Maybe that was nominated too.
Yeah.
And there was a Star Trek convention that was coinciding with it all?
Was that the same trip?
Was this?
Looking to see.
Was this Krusty Space Hands trip?
It might have been.
Might have been.
Oh, look at this.
Wow.
Here's, uh, sorry for this walk down memory lane.
Sorry, Donaway.
Uh, no time for you today.
Well, as it turns out, actually, I was going to just tell you, uh, we forgot.
Brian told us a while back that he had that meeting.
Yeah.
So he's not actually here.
So we're just, we're just kind of burning oil here.
Yes.
This was the year with Leo Laporte.
I just found the photos of Leo Laporte.
But check out, uh, uh,
Oh my gosh.
It's your kids, Johnson.
That's when Carter had hair.
Yep.
Lots of hair.
And Nick.
A little tiny neck.
We went to serendipity for that.
Oh, yeah.
I recognize it.
I miss that place.
Yeah.
Hell's kitchen's fine, but I like that place.
Yeah.
Serendipity was great.
That's when Carter would never not wear her bunny ears.
She loved them.
Yeah.
She didn't wear those anymore.
But there was a time where I thought maybe she would never.
It was the best.
It was the freaking best.
It was a pretty good time.
And we're talking how, what's that now?
About 13 years ago?
13 years ago, yeah.
Time.
How does it work?
I mean, Randy looks like a child in that photo.
He totally does.
Here's the photos of Umi and Leport too.
Oh, let's see.
Copies.
Someone we were like spread them on the wall or whatever we did.
Somewhere of those photos, but I can't find
I know that's like that should be right in that grouping.
Yeah.
At some point we were like all we were like looking like we were getting arrested or something.
Here we go.
Yeah.
That's the trip.
Yeah.
So we were there for to accept some sort of award.
It was January and Vegas was like a great time to be there.
I think you coverville.
It was another one of the Todd one.
So you were up for music.
I was up for the instance for games.
Well, that might be why Randy...
I think FilmSack was definitely on there, too.
Yeah.
We kind of had one in every category, I think.
And it was one where Todd Cochran, Fat Fingert, and went...
Yep.
You know, and divulged the winner before he read the nominees.
Like twice or three times, actually.
Something like that.
Yes.
Kept advancing the frame.
And it's also, I think, the one the time where Leo called you Ibbotson.
Oh, was that during that trip?
I think so.
I thought that was just on a little radio thing that he did.
No, it was like a remote, like somebody held a mic to him thing.
I think.
That's really, really funny.
Memory Lane.
Yeah.
This is great.
You know what I'm going to find that?
How do they work?
I want to play it.
Let's just play the Leo moment.
Please do.
Let's remind ourselves of this great.
Where is it?
Yeah, here it is.
There you go.
Brian Ibbotson.
Right.
There is right there.
Oh, that sounds like a background.
It was at a trade show for sure.
Yeah.
It was so good.
And then let us.
Never forget.
Where is it?
Wait, is it this one?
Brian Ibbett.
Oh.
Wow.
That's the sultry one.
Is it this one?
Scott Johnson's got quite the unit.
No, no, no, no.
Well, anyway.
Oh, and then the time Shatner sounded like Leo.
Let's play that.
I love it.
Okay.
All right.
That's basically Leo Leport.
It's so weird.
Just one more photo from the same trip.
This was Tina and I getting breakfast at Monomie Gabi across from the Belagio.
Oh, I love that place.
It's so good at the Paris Hotel.
And early in the morning, right?
Like this is taken at, you know, 10, 30, 11 o'clock.
Oh, my Lord.
Is that Chucky?
What is that?
That's a dude in a Chucky costume, you know.
Ugh.
Getting ready to...
In the morning.
In the morning, start posing with people.
There's a 50-50 chance that that bottle is Gatorade or his own urine.
There's own urine, right, exactly.
Holy shit.
I think at this point it's Gatorade, but at a certain time of the day,
it's going to switch from being Gatorade to an empty container,
and then it's going to slowly start filling with urine.
I'm going to do a favor for our listening audience who can't visually see what we're talking about.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm going to stick these all in Discord.
I will put them on the TMS,
Blue Sky account and then we'll also stick him in the in the Patreon today so you guys can
enjoy this this walk down 13 year memory lane all right oh what a great time yeah good time actually
that but that restaurant huge recommend if you're going to Vegas you need a breakfast place
that's actually kind of weirdly reasonable yeah it is and it's and it's and it's still there
like you know we can recommend places like holsteins where you had a delicious uh uh boozy shake
or Kim had a little sample of it.
I tasted Randy's...
What was it?
Captain Crunch, something.
Yep, I have a photo, actually, that too.
It was pretty foul.
Yeah, it was.
It was the first...
It's the first taste of real alcohol outside of my trip to...
Oh, no, that was a year and a half later.
That might have been my first in-state alcohol taste.
Oh, that's right, because you accidentally drink at a Mexican resort, right?
Yeah.
They brought you, yeah, yeah.
It's supposed to be better.
Is that virgin?
Oh, yes, yeah, take it.
It's a bad virgin.
Virina.
Yes.
C, see, see.
But yeah, like, I think Brandy broke my record or whatever that day.
But, yeah, it was nasty.
I didn't like it.
Broke your street, yeah.
I didn't like it, not one bit.
Oh, here it is.
Did you put a photo?
Yeah, that's right there.
Let's show you guys this.
Look at this here.
But Holstein's is gone.
It's not at the, it's not.
at the Casamapolitan anymore.
Is it in Vegas at all anymore?
No.
No.
Oh, shit.
Sometimes those places are moods, but.
Yeah.
So here's a great Vegas tip.
If you find a place you really like, go there.
Even if it's like, well, we'll go there on our next trip.
It might be gone by your next trip.
So go there.
There is an ephemeral nature to that town that you need to take advantage of while you're there.
For sure.
Because somebody somewhere said, oh, you should really go to the sands.
It's amazing.
It's my favorite hotel.
The sands.
Spend time at the sand.
And every year you put it off and you put it off.
Guess what's not there anymore?
The sands.
Gone.
All gone.
Bye.
Bye.
Giant hotel gone.
Pooh.
Right.
Exactly.
Anyway, we found, we were doing a deal with, uh, we're trying to get a deal on a potential
Vegas trip.
We're not even sure when, but we're just like looking at what deals are.
Uh, I don't know what's going on at the, uh, Luxor, almost at the pyramid.
They, right now, there's some.
weekend we can get rooms for two bucks.
Really?
Plus resort fees, whatever those are.
Yeah, of course.
The resort fee.
Yeah, but it's 25 bucks resort fees.
Yeah, so we're probably looking at, you know,
27 bucks a night or something for if you include resort fees.
And the resort fees, I'm not even sure those are daily.
Do those compound?
Or are they, is that just one?
Yeah, they're daily.
Yeah.
Yeah, you pay one.
They keep trying to pass legislation to get rid of that stuff and they never do.
Uh-huh.
What's going on with those guys?
I know.
It'd be nice if they could finally get rid of the resort.
a fake fee. It is. Oh yeah, absolutely. Resort fees. Hey, guys, we got a podcast fee. It's like,
it's like convenience fee. Like when you see that on, uh, on receipts, uh, like when you're buying
concert tickets or movie tickets where you buy them online and they charge you $3 convenience fee.
It's like, oh, it's a fee for my convenience, but really it means you don't have to hire another
person to sell tickets online for me. It's,
Their convenience.
Right.
Exactly.
It's not convenient for me, and it doesn't cost them more.
It costs them less.
Exactly.
We know how the internet works.
We've been around it for a long time.
We're not dumb.
Oh, that reminds me.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll tell us fast because we've got to get Nicole in here.
Sure.
Although I haven't seen her.
Who knows?
My wench, sometimes she's a little bit.
Yep.
Oh, she just said, is there a link for the call?
I'll put one in there while you need.
Oh, yeah, just stick it in there.
And type it's always the same.
And then she'll always know.
Yeah.
So, I just realized it sounded snarky.
I don't mean it snarky, Nicole.
All right.
So what I was saying is we go, oh, I went and saw Project Tell Mary.
Loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it.
Oh, good.
I was going to ask you if you saw it.
Good.
So we went to see it.
Brand new theater that's near us.
We're like, yeah, let's go use the good place.
Let's see how this goes.
And we had, plus we had a credit there.
And we went on Saturday night.
Right.
Shit.
Friday night.
No, Saturday night.
The night of the funeral, we wanted to get away and get away from everybody and go do something.
Do something fun.
Get away.
Yeah.
That's what we did.
So Kim and I go, we get in there.
And as the previews are coming up, and they did do a Dune 3 trailer,
although we didn't get a, didn't get the Spider-Man or the,
Okay.
Doomsday or any of that.
Yeah.
I guess there's no Doomsday trailer.
Yeah.
It's all wishful thinking on my part.
But anyway, we're sitting there and then right up where it's about time for the movie to start, you hear a voice talking over something.
And when I'm not paying attention because it's like interspersed with like local commercials and stuff.
Sure.
And the lady goes, something, something, something, something, something.
For your reading pleasure, something, something, close caption, some, some, some, some, and I went.
What?
Oh, did you guys get with.
What is she talking about?
Yeah, and she goes, I don't know what she said.
And I said, I don't either.
Oh, well, whatever.
Then we settle in.
The first thing on screen is, in big white text, heavy breathing.
Oh, no.
Describing the opening scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I went, we're in the freaking subtitled version of the movie.
We're going to have to sit through this thing with giant subtitles I don't need for the entire thing.
And I'm glad this exists, by the way, for people that are hearing impaired or otherwise like to have it.
or whatever your reasons are, it's fine.
Thank goodness they still crank up the sound
and you get the full deal there.
And it's like an IMAX junior size screen and all that.
But it was just subtitles.
And then, you know, jaunty happy song
or pensive music begins and those sort of thing.
And for the first few minutes, I was so mad.
I was just like, I can't believe we did this story.
So I'm sure I missed it on the little panel
when I chose the time and I just didn't look.
And there was something there that said,
this is a closed caption viewing or whatever.
Yeah.
I just didn't see it.
But I think this is a credit to this film.
Maybe all movies I'd get used to it.
But this movie very quickly had me so in its grip that I just forgot.
Didn't even see it after a while.
Yeah.
No big deal.
Yeah.
It was all right.
Good, good, good.
Oh, yeah, so freaking good.
And that hot dog was not worth $7.50.
I remember you.
I went to, so we were working on the fence between our neighbors and our non-crazy
neighbors on the other side of us.
And by working on it, the deal was, he'll do the fence.
I go and get the materials.
So the concrete, the posts and those cardboard tubes that you put the concrete in the post in.
He's like, if you don't mind taking care of that, I'm like, oh, dude, not only will I take
care of that.
He's like, and I'll pay half.
I'm like, not only will I take care of that, it's on me.
If you're doing, if you're putting up the fence, let me buy the materials.
100%.
We're totally, totally even.
But as I'm going there, that's great.
The guy selling hot dogs in front of Home Depot is just about to wrap up shop.
And he's like, free hot dogs, free hot dogs.
I'm like, well, I'm going over to the crazy neighbor's house in just a few minutes to go eat dinner.
But sure.
So when I got free hot dog.
But, you know, it was a little on the pretty well-cooked side of things.
Sure.
But it was delicious.
I'll always go for one man.
I don't know what my problem is.
I've got a problem with hot dogs.
I really do.
I know.
I wasn't hungry.
That was,
here's the thing with me.
And I got to really stop this because,
you know,
I'm gaining weight.
But, uh,
that's how it gets us.
Don't offer me something free because I'll eat it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I was raised not to,
I was told a bunch of starving Chinese kids existed.
And if I didn't finish my plate,
then I was wasting food.
So if you tell me something's free and I don't take it,
then I'm contributing to the,
problem. That's how we were raised.
Exactly. It's how we were raised.
Yeah. No, I go to
Frigant Panera like, oh, you've earned
enough for a free cinnamon roll. Oh, have I?
Okay. Give that to me now.
Give it me. I'm not even hungry.
Put it in my... Exactly. Put it in my face.
That became my breakfast. I ate that for
breakfast and didn't eat anything else. So there's something.
Nice, healthy pork-based breakfast.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, we still don't see Nicole, but I'm sure she's coming.
No, but she responded that she
got the link.
She says he-he-snarky, but I can't hear without subtitles.
So she's listening to the show.
So Nicole, click that link.
Yeah, click that link. Yeah, I got to click it to get in.
Do it in a, do it in a chromium browser because you can't do it.
It's a fairy.
Oh, is that true?
I didn't know that.
I've never tried in Safari.
Yeah.
Safari doesn't like clean feed.
It works in Firefox.
Or not a duck-duck search engine, Firefox.
Firefox, yeah.
No problem in there, which is not.
Yeah, I use it with Brave.
I'm sure works in Chrome.
Any of the chromiums should be okay.
I didn't know that about a web kit.
That's not good.
I don't like that.
No, sir, I don't.
A lot of people on their Macs.
Can't do Zencastor, can't do
Streamyard.
Why do you think they shouldn't,
they should be quicker to like address some,
I don't know if the WebKit standard,
which is what they use,
which is an open source thing.
I wonder if that's a,
yeah, that's what's behind or something.
It could be.
It could be.
And they're so stubborn.
They just refuse to like,
like the open source
Chromium is not Chrome.
Chromium is the open source browser
engine that Chrome
uses, but it's
chromium is not Chrome necessarily.
In the same way that, you know,
brave is chromium,
but it's not Chrome.
Right.
So I don't, I think,
if I was,
I bet you Tim Cook's like,
well, that's a product.
We're just not willing to,
we can't have that name on there,
you know?
Right.
I don't know.
I don't need that.
Anyway, well,
While she makes her many attempts to join the call,
I think I'm going to just start it.
And then we'll start.
And then she'll join.
That's my thinking.
I think it's a great idea.
I think so too.
So here goes.
I just have to find it.
Where is it?
Everything's going great today.
Where the hell is it?
Oh, she says, sorry, Discord is updating.
So there we go.
Oh, Discord.
Yeah, that's where she gets the link for.
Oh.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
And if you haven't updated Discord in a while,
it's not the fastest thing.
It's not,
no.
Update three of seven.
It's not the speediest of experiences,
has been my experience.
It is not.
Why is it always eight updates?
What is that about?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's like they divide their updates
always into eight.
It's such a strange thing.
So there she is.
She's in clean feed now.
She's here now.
Let's play the thing.
Oh, I already lost it.
Well, what do you recommend?
Oh, yes, time for us to do recommendos where we talk about stuff we've seen on streaming services,
and we think you might like it too.
On the line with us right now is Nicole Spagnolo.
Hello, Nicole.
Oh, we don't hear you.
You might hear us, but we do not hear you.
My guess is.
It says that her, she's using the browser setting.
Oh, I saw a little, I saw a movement.
Blip?
Did you see a blip?
Oh, there she is.
Hi.
There she is.
Hi.
I just wanted to hear you say balls.
So it works.
Yeah.
Are you there?
You're here, right?
Hi.
Yeah, I'm here.
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
Totally can hear you.
I started playing Fortnite and boy, do I have a potty mouth.
Oh, no.
Oh, wow.
I remember playing with you and Mark deep into the night when we would play Call of Duty
Modern Warfare, the first one.
Yeah.
And you would, she would cuss more than all of us combined.
For real.
It was insane.
There's just certain times.
where, you know, I think I'm doing good.
And then especially if I'm, we have two other, we have another couple that we play with.
So there's four of us.
Yeah.
And I have been resistant to playing Fortnite for years because I've had such a bad experience with it, with my son.
And like, but my friends like slowly chipped away me.
I'm like, fine.
I hope you know what you're getting into.
Yeah.
So now it has become.
it's become my whole personality now.
And it's funny, it's just like shooters or I think when we played the multiplayer version of Uncharted 2.
I don't know if you remember that.
We did that bunch of that.
Yeah, that was so fun.
That was so much fun.
Assassin's Creed.
Assassin's Creed.
Oh,
Yeah, the Brotherhood.
The Brotherhood multiplayer was so cool.
But Nicole, anything where there was competition?
Because when we did this in, wow, she never cussed in there.
You were fine.
We would raid and do stuff.
I would be quiet.
I would be quiet.
Yeah.
But then we would.
You know, you're, I'm comfortable with you if I cuss.
Oh, yeah, no.
But that was the other thing.
We all felt very much like, all right, she's, none of us are intimidating her.
In fact, she's intimidating us is what's happening.
Hey, he, guess what?
What?
We might be coming to Nurtacular.
Oh, good.
That would be amazing.
Yeah, I'm talking to Mark about it right now.
And Mateo is getting better.
I'm a lot better.
The kids were going to Kansas City Planet Con.
this weekend.
And Mateo is dressing up as Hornet.
I three, you printed him a cool mask.
Nice.
Ava has never seen a husband hotel,
but she does listen to the music.
She's dressing up as nifty,
and I'm dressing up as Charlie Morningstar.
Nice.
That's awesome.
So we'll bring our cosplay to Nurtacular.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, we're doing a showcase, as Bill calls it.
That's right.
We don't want to call it a competition.
No.
He's no wagering.
This is not a competition.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yes, he did.
Oh, I miss Dave.
I guess he still lives, but whatever.
You know what I mean.
Well, let's get to it.
We got some stuff to recommend.
We got some clips all lined up.
I guess so.
Yeah, you think we'll just go ahead and do that?
Why not?
I mean, here's what's funny about yours.
I'm more into what you're bringing than I thought I would be because I need to know so I don't.
So I can make a decision because I'm kind of terrified to watch it.
I'll be honest.
because it seems gnarly
and I'm surprised you got through it.
Well, I have a son.
That's true.
Yeah.
He's the target.
We'll get to it, guys.
We'll get to it.
Yeah, I need to learn what it is,
but I need to learn what more of this is.
Yeah, because it's either going to make me really mad.
It'll probably just make me mad,
is my guess.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, I kind of want to talk about it.
I'll talk about it when we get to it.
All right.
We'll get to it.
Brian, let's start with you.
We got a clip, as always.
How do you want to set this one up here?
This is a brand new film.
Came out in theaters at the end of the year.
Tina, I really wanted to see in theaters,
but there was too many other Oscar things
that we knew we needed to see.
And this one kind of fell by the wayside,
but it is now streaming on Hulu, so excited that we finally got to watch it.
We actually watched it last night,
and I switched up my recommendals at the last second
to be this.
Oh, wow.
So you're gonna hear the main character confessing something
to his friend.
All right, here we go.
I've been doing stand up.
Oh, I don't know how that is.
That's a crazy handle. What is she based?
No, no, no, no. I've been doing stand-up comedy on stage downtown.
Okay.
What?
Is it like a hobby?
Well, I'm not about to quit my job and go into her.
Okay.
Yeah, it's just, I mean, I love it, man.
It's great.
You know, it's actually pretty amazing, and it's terrifying, but I love every aspect of it,
and it's just it's something I look forward to it.
What?
Just like, you've always been the funniest guy in the room forever, right?
Ever since college, and now that you're actually pursuing it.
I'm not pursuing.
You're going to kill it. It's inevitable.
And it kills me that I hate it so much because I have always gotten comfort in knowing that you settled, that you're a settler.
And I'm the guy who, even though, you know, is going for it.
It's my thing.
Jesus, Balls.
I know.
It's been a lot for me to carry around.
Oh, man, I've been wanting to see this.
I forgot the name.
Tell us what this is.
It's called Is This Thing On?
And that's Will Arnett, who's your main character here, along with Bradley Cooper, who
is not only plays his best friend Balls, but also is the director of the film.
Is his name really balls?
His name is really, I mean, his name, I don't know what they say.
In the movie.
name in the in the movie his name is balls yeah his character name is balls see i was just saying
his name i know you totally weren't you came on i was like wow you just said balls that's awesome
um yeah no it uh it's about um Alex and his wife test played by um laura durn kind of splitting up
kind of you know this amicable end to their their marriage but they've got two boys and
they're really trying to figure out how they balance their lives and and the two boys and and
and kind of maintain this thing.
And in kind of a fit of depression,
I said it.
Wicked kitten, I said it's called,
Is This Thing On?
But I'll say it again.
Shit out of luck.com.
In a fit of a little bit of a depression,
he goes into a bar.
There's like a cover charge,
but they say,
well, it's no cover if you go up on stage
and do,
it's an open mic night,
improv or a stand-up comedy improv,
improv, or open mic night.
So he's like, oh, okay.
And the preview kind of gives you a little bit of that first night where he goes up there and says, yeah, I think I'm, think I'm divorcing my wife.
I live in a completely separate house without my wife and kids.
So I think that was my first clue.
And the idea is he gets laughs and is probably a little surprised that it's working out.
He gets laughs. It's like, it's kind of like he's going up there to kind of work through it.
Be some therapy just to save $15 on a cover charge.
But when he starts getting laughs, he realizes that he actually is really funny.
And he starts talking about, like, working it into his, working his life into his stand-up comedy.
And he uses that as this great, like, venting and dealing, coping mechanism for all this stuff that's going on in his life, both with Laura Dern, but also with these other pressures and things he's got to.
his life. Will Arnett is freaking awesome in this. This is like this, you know, he was great in
a rest of development, obviously. He's been a great Batman in the Lego Batman stuff. So good.
Yeah. But this is like, this proves to me, it's like, all right, he is, he's got some acting chops,
because this requires a lot of drama, a lot of emotion on his face, a lot of reaction and stuff
like this. He is so freaking good in this. And it's not, you know, it's not always the happiest story.
But it's comedy throughout, a layer of drama, but, you know, comedy throughout it. So it's never like,
just straight up sad. A lot of comedians in this thing. Amy Sedaris plays like the manager of the club where he
Oh, I love her so freaking much, dude.
She's, she is so funny.
Like, ever since that weird, what was it, Strangers with Candy,
where she had to maintain that face throughout the whole show.
Such a weird, very funny show, yeah.
It was great.
Uncomfortable, though, I'll tell you that.
Yes.
Chloe Radcliffe, Dave Attell, you know,
you see all these people's like, oh, I know that comedian.
Oh, he's hilarious.
A very weird appearance by Peyton Manning in a, in a,
serious role where he's not playing like Peyton Manning.
Wow.
But he's actually acting and he does a really good job.
I've never seen him do anything but interviews.
I didn't know he had it in him.
Yeah, he's actually really good.
And Christine Ebersole.
Oh, Karen Hines from Game of Thrones.
Oh, I love Karen Hines.
That guy.
Plays his dad.
Can do anything, anywhere, anytime.
I love him.
And it took me sad, I'm embarrassed to say how long it took me
to recognize him because he had a full-on beard,
mustache and beard,
and he's playing Will Arnett's dad,
and he was unrecognizable for the first little bit.
So good.
It's really, really good.
It's like in the high 80s on Rotten Tomatoes,
and it deserves that.
That is a perfect level for it.
I agree wholeheartedly with the Rotten Tomatoes
scoring on this one.
Nice. I want to see it.
I feel like there aren't a lot of these, you know?
These kind of quiet, more,
I don't know. They're not big spectacles at the theater.
Yeah, exactly. And I don't know where this fell. It got released at the New York Film Festival in October, but it became widely released in mid-December. I don't know if that put it out of contention for the Oscar period.
And if it did, I think we could see maybe Will Arnett get a nomination next year. But it'll be a long time. So the Academy will probably forget, even if it is up for content.
but it's um it's so good it's really good it's called is this thing on it's on hulu and um
it's uh worth checking out sounds fantastic yes Nicole let's get it over to you on uh one of the
one of the one of the sometimes documentaries come out that feel like they're important and i
should watch them but i can't make myself do it so you bit the bullet for us uh do you want to
set it up at all or whatever you want to do um let's just say uh uh this
This documentary targets mainly young men, but it impacts our whole society.
And it makes me want to just burn the internet down.
Yeah.
Like something is just wrong.
I feel like we're going in the wrong direction now.
Like I, my whole life, I've been like, yeah, technology.
Now I'm just like, is this really where we want to take this?
So I, as a parent of young kids growing up in this age, I worry a lot about their future and the influence and AI.
And they are the commodity.
We are the commodity.
We are the product.
Our attention.
You know, if you're not, if you're not race.
someone to critically think about something.
And even like, I've even seen interviews with like CIA agents that are trained to know when they're being manipulated,
how easily it can happen to you.
And then you feel shame.
So I feel like there are very nefarious people out there that do not care.
care. They're just looking to manipulate you. And this is just kind of pulling that back on a very
specific type of influencer. Um, that honestly, oh, oh, what? Let's just play the clip. Let's play the
clip. Yeah. Let's hear, uh, Louis Thoreau, Lewis Thoreau, who you all know is the guy who did that weird little,
rap on TikTok.
That's how I know him.
Yeah.
That's the crazy thing.
My money don't jiggle, jiggle.
It folds.
Doobo do, do, do, but do.
Anyway, British documentarian.
Here you go.
Here it is.
I normally train a little bit earlier in the day.
I'd start my day off.
Working out doing hard.
Who are you talking to?
What, do I not talk to this?
Talk to you.
We're not on social media now.
What would you say is the message?
I coach boys, how to make money.
Wow, this is a nice spot.
How to be outside the system.
How to be proper guys.
Shut up, Bernad.
Would you see me that way?
Um...
Did you look at my arms?
The stature's not saying too much.
I was entering the Manosphere, a wild frontier of streamers whose behavior is reshaping the culture.
People ask me, wild Miami.
And I'll tell them, because if it was 120 years ago, I'd be on a horse on the way to California and dig for gold.
That makes no sense.
My favorite line of these guys, so this is a...
into the manosphere, Louis Thru.
And it's been getting a lot of coverage.
And that's why I was like, do I recommend it?
I'm sure everybody listening has probably heard of it.
It's on Netflix.
But he's he, so Louis, I kind of dove into his other documentaries.
He's really good about asking questions and giving the person he's talking to space.
he's really good at that.
Like, he just will ask a question.
And all of these guys just dig their hole.
Like, he doesn't even have to do anything.
Good.
Yeah.
They just, like, he's comfortable with the uncomfortable.
So, like, historically, he's had interviews with, like, Nazis and Scientology and all these things.
And so once, so as you're watching this documentary, because it's social media, these guys,
are live streaming Louis and his chat is like saying this guy is friends with blah
blah.
What's his face?
He did a document or he did an interview with the UK guy who turned out to be a pedophile.
Oh, the prince.
Prince Andrew?
No, no, no, no.
Sal, what the hell was his name?
I'm sure the chat will tell me.
Oh, Jimmy Silva.
Oh, Jimmy Seville.
Salva.
Salva?
I thought it was Saville.
Whatever.
I don't know.
28 years later bone temple told me it was Seville, I thought.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway.
Anyway.
Soville.
But it was interesting to watch in like real time like his the, the.
So you heard on that clip, it was his name is H.S. Tiki Taki.
Yeah.
Fucking hell.
And his name is Harrison.
His name is Harrison.
And so you get pulled in.
He lets Louis come in.
But he's on the run.
He's a total douche noodle.
He's on the run because he's, he was in a car.
He was in a like a car race and it crashed.
And so the law is after him.
So he's in hiding.
But somehow Louis gets access to him and he brings him in.
And through and you just see.
Just the insecurity in these boys, really.
And how they talk about women, almost every single one of them.
I don't hate women.
I love women.
Your actions speak differently.
Your words actually speak differently too.
Because you hear I'm talking about, you know, oh, the one that cracked me up,
he interviews, I think, like, four or five different far,
right influencers. That's what they're kind of in. And their big thing is to find young men
that are really trying to better themselves. So it's a, like I said, it's very easy to fall
into this because you might look for how to get in shape, how to earn money, how to get
girls and the algorithm pushes you to these guys and it might start off as innocent as I just
want to get in shape right but these guys take that and then manipulate you to oh buy my course and
buy I love that Louis with this HS tiki-talkie guy he talks about how he hates
Olean fans but he owns like this whole production
thing with only fan girls.
So like the hypocrisy is right there.
And then he also does this like thing where you invest money in his his recommended
sells stock trading.
So Louis actually invested $500 at the beginning.
And then at the end he's like he lost all of it based on his recommendations.
So yeah, Red Fraggle.
it terrifies me too.
And I think it's important not just for this kind of thing all.
Like if we're allowing our kids to be online, because I'll let you in on a little story.
When Matea was in fifth grade, they had a police officer come to the school.
And the police officer said to the kids, how many of you play Roblox?
All the kids raise her hands.
Well, not all, but a good majority of them.
And said, you have terrible parents.
Are these kids?
And the tail came home crying.
Because he was told by this authority fear that we are terrible parents.
Because you allow him to play Roblox.
Because we allowed him play.
But the cop is not wrong.
Yeah.
in the sense that Roblox is a horrible place.
That's one that didn't, I know one of them did, like, had put some safeguards in for chat that you have to submit a driver's license during your certain age or something.
Well, Roblox does, did this thing where they have to scan the kid's face and they determine the age of the kid.
Which nobody wants that either.
It's so gross.
No, it's so crazy.
Really gross.
Every day, every day I think about, like, Nick barely skirted out of this age.
range. He just missed getting the
Manosphere explosion of influencers. The Roblox
thing is not his realm at all. It was all Minecraft for him.
And he just missed it by this much. And we were talking about it the other day. I said,
do you feel like you would have been susceptible to this?
If you were 16 right now, how would this stuff hit you? He's 25 now. And he says,
he says oh dad there are times of my life and every kid's life as young men where we're
absolutely susceptible to this stuff and he said he made me think hard and long about well if i
if i'd have had this growing up when i was an insecure kid it was really skinny i didn't think
i was all that cool whatever you're in this position of easy easy target you know you're an easy
you're a mark and he he seemed to understand that really well and i thought just another two years
behind and you would have been stuck in this.
You would have at least, at least it would have hit you or affected you in some way.
Well, and I think about when I grew up, I was like in IRC chats all over the place talking
to random people.
Oh, yeah.
Like I, I look back and go, what the hell was I doing?
Right.
I was talking to comp you serve like in message boards and then AOL came around.
Sure.
But I don't know.
I guess because I've watched the social media content, all of that, I mean, we have had the
privilege to have a front row seat to the evolution of podcast, you know, influencers.
I hate that word, but that's what they are.
We're influencer.
You're an influencer.
So it is, you know, you like, I think the first generation of quote unquote, influencers.
had a good heart.
What I'm seeing, even in our space, in the woodworking space, there are people that are not
woodworkers, but they know how to sell, and they know how to manipulate, and they know how to
game the system.
And so it's pushing out, like, authentic people for the rise of, like, fakeness, I guess.
I don't know.
And I think that's the case in this, this is the case in this manosphere, too.
Tell us where the money is.
Like if you want to, you know, I don't know if I told you guys, maybe I haven't talked about it on this show.
But I talked to somebody who works for one of these agencies that reps a bunch of influencers, TikTokers, really popular Instagram people like this.
That's their talent.
The talent agency focuses on those managing those.
And I asked him, I'm not going to use his name because it was a confidential conversation.
But I said, what if you were to come to me right now and just say,
we're going to take you on, but here are the things you would have to do to really explode.
And I said, what would those be?
And he said, this is something I don't want you to do because I listen to your shows for the opposite reason.
But from a professional standpoint, I would tell you to go hard negative.
I would tell you to dig up dirt constantly, constantly say things that were controversial.
Yeah.
But, you know, beyond me yelling shit potatoes when I'm playing a video game.
like really go negative.
He says that would grow your audience overnight.
And it would be.
And then he says that would be an audience you wouldn't want to be around.
It would be,
you wouldn't be able to sleep at night because I know you.
Like he says,
this is not a thing you should do.
I'm just telling you what this business is telling people to do is that.
Yeah.
And it really hit me.
I was like, oh my God.
And you see it in the documentary,
all these young men that know all of these guys.
I'm like, oh my God.
Because I look at them like, I don't know who these people are, but in their world, they are huge.
And they have the attention of young men.
And they blur out the teenagers, but there are men, grown-ass men that are just like, oh, you guys are amazing.
And I'm like, are they?
You're just believing what they tell you.
One guy was like, oh, yeah, I'm worth, you know, $40 million.
and he goes to his house and he's like, he's not worth $40 million.
But they all tout the same thing, which is even though they're in relationships,
they can go out and be with whatever woman they want to be.
So it's the woman takes care of the house if they have kids and that's her role.
And then he can do whatever hell he wants to.
and there's no respect.
There's no like, to me, I look at a marriage as a team.
That's why I love you and Kim.
You can see you're a team.
Brian, you and Tina, you're a team.
You're navigating this crazy-ass world together.
We like to say we're a team with benefits.
That's how we think.
But to see these, you know, guys, I don't know.
don't know what to call them because I don't anyway to see them in you know influencing hundreds of
thousands of young men to think that's what a relationship what they think a relationship is it was
like oh god so much toxic masculinity and when louis starts to dig deeper into these guys they all
have a similar theme they come from broken homes they have situations where like
like H.S. Tiki-Toki, he was raised by a single mom.
And so Louis starts digging in deeper into like their background.
And there's a lot of pain in these men.
And while I want to be like, oh, they're the worst, they have, they're, they're, they
probably didn't have proper guidance.
They're trying, like, you start kind of stripping away.
like what's really going on here?
Why do they feel like this?
And I think that's the key to not just men, but also women,
but I feel like men are feeling like
they're being stripped away of their rights
in some situations because women are getting more rights,
but that's not how that works.
Just because I get more rights doesn't mean you lose your rights.
It's not a pie.
Exactly.
Yes.
It's like, so, so anyway, it's a good documentary.
I didn't, it wasn't as cringy as I thought it would be, but it is something that will,
like I've been thinking about it since I watched it.
Yeah, it'd be hard to, hard not to, I mean, I've been thinking about watching it.
Every time I'm about ready to pull the trigger, I'm like, do I want to be mad right now?
I know.
It just feels like, oh, this is just going to feel so gross watching this.
Here's the thing.
You know, it's exposing it.
Yeah.
Even though Nick has got.
through it.
Man has not.
No, I know.
That was my first thought when you and I were talking.
In fact, that came up in the conversation.
I'm like, we need to be, you need to be the best, you need to be the uncle he needs.
I need to be the grandfather he needs.
His dad has already being an amazing dad.
Like, we're, we're going to do all that the best we can.
But could the world slow their role on how they want to influence our freaking kids?
You know what?
Every generation has something.
I get it.
They all always do it.
The problem is right now it's just a scale thing.
It's just so much bigger and more broad.
because everybody's got a phone and some parents are giving their kids phones at eight
and nine years old.
It's too damn early, dude.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to tell you this.
It's about connection.
And with the introduction of AI, we're seeing marriages kind of fall susceptible to the other partner,
not feeling like they're connected with the partner.
So they're turning to something like AI.
Kids, it's all about connections.
I read an amazing book by Gord.
Newfield called Hold On to Your Kids.
And it's about the parent-child connection that you build.
Something as simple as leaving your phone in the car when you go out to dinner,
forming that connection, taking the opportunities.
I love taking, like, that's why I was like, oh, let's go to Nurtacular,
because it builds those connections up, those memories up.
it makes it harder for them to be susceptible to jack holes like these guys.
Yeah.
I'm full of all the words today.
Yeah.
They're the right words.
Can you tell my brain's working again?
Yeah.
You got back to Nicole brain.
Drop a couple of bombs.
I lost myself for about a year.
I'm glad you found yourself.
I know you guys have been through with me through some crazy stuff.
stuff. So I'm happy to be back.
Well, it's good to have you back in your full, sweary Fortnite form.
Yeah, let's play some Fortnite.
Yeah, let's do it.
All right, I got one quick recommendation.
This is an amazing thing I saw also on Netflix.
Are we all Netflix today?
No, Brian's was.
Oh, Hulu.
Oh, Hulu, right.
Sorry.
Oh, no.
You didn't get the memo.
Two out of three, ain't bad.
Didn't get the memo.
This just happens to be there.
I don't think it's an original or anything.
I watched a movie that didn't get a lot of play at the Oscars or any of that.
I feel like maybe there's a couple of things that could have been recognized.
Were they nominated?
I don't think so.
I don't think anything got nominated for this film.
But I really liked it.
Here's my clip.
Justice Jackson?
That depends on if you have a good reason to be banging on my door at Turing the motor.
They captured Herman Goring alive.
Where?
Austria.
What are they going to do with it?
Well, that's the real question, isn't it?
Can I come in?
No.
But it's raining.
I can see that.
Are they going to shoot them?
Not that I knew of.
Well, for a long time, they were going to shoot them.
Yes, sir.
Churchill and Roosevelt sign the order themselves.
Unorderly you opposed.
I'm a Supreme Court justice.
I tend to frown on executing men without a trial.
That's what I'm here to talk about.
All right.
That is the amazing Michael Shannon.
That's who, okay.
I was trying to place that voice.
Jeez.
It's obvious.
Not even the biggest role in this.
He's a supporting actor in this.
by long shot, but he's, but he's very memorable in it. He plays Justice Douglas Kelly. He is the
the dude what ran most of the Nuremberg trials, or at least he was kind of the head guy that
worked with the other countries and they all kind of funneled through him or kind of tag team is
a better way of putting it. The movie is Nuremberg. It is all about those trials and about
specifically about the trial of Herman Goring, who is, or Gering, who is played by Russell Crow.
and if you think that Russell Crow can't do
an aging Nazi fat guy
German accent vibe
with a bunch of twists
you are wrong. He's so good in this.
It may be my, it's close to my favorite
Russell Crow performance. It's very, very good.
Ramey Malick is your star in this. He plays
forgot his name.
What is the character's name? He's over at the top.
Uh, it was at the top.
Oh, right.
Uh, no, he's Douglas Kelly.
Sorry.
Michael Shannon plays Justice Robert H. Jackson.
I get the two mix up.
Doesn't matter really, but, uh, yeah.
I mean, from a historical perspective, it does matter.
Uh, so I shouldn't, I shouldn't say that.
But anyway, it is, uh, uh, one of these things.
It's like full of actors, you know, John Slattery's in this.
I talked about Richard E. Grant's performance in this a couple of weeks ago.
He's so good in this.
Very small role.
It's called Nurember.
Oh, Nuremberg. Yeah, it's based on the Nuremberg trials right after World War II.
and it is a wild ride and most of it is fairly accurate.
I say that because they did take a couple of, I did a deep dive on the history and they took
a couple of interesting artistic licenses here, but kind of all movies do that.
Most of the beefs I've heard about it are people think Marimi Malick was maybe the wrong casting
for this, but I think he was very good in it.
I think that he can be distracting.
he's got those eyes and that face and he's just kind of a I don't know he's he's very when he's on
screen you see ramy malloc and it's kind of all you see yeah right so I get why some people have
issues with it but I think he did a great job and I think he went toe to toe with crow really
well but it's all about trying to get ready for that trial trying to understand like ramy
malick's a military psychologist and he's trying to get to to the bottom of what makes herming
garing work, how much he may have actually known about the order for the final solution.
He is the one that signed off on the camps, but he held very strongly that he didn't know what
they were being used for and that that was Hitler and some other people working behind him.
And then it turns out that wasn't true.
But it's just this complicated thing.
There's a brief appearance by Colin Hanks, who's also very good in this.
Slattery's amazing.
He plays this like old.
War veteran Americans general guy that kind of has to facilitate everything.
He's very good.
He's always really good.
But if you like historical courtroom drama stuff, awesome.
I loved it.
It's very Hollywood though.
Okay.
Right?
Like none of this is going to feel like a, I don't know, this isn't Schindler's list or
there's a lot of crescendoy music, which I thought was awesome.
Like it's just kind of older Hollywood ideas applied to an event.
And there's a middle in the middle, or there's a thing.
thing in the middle of it where they show a bunch of actual footage from when they found the
camps and there was the footage presented at the trial like exactly how it was shown that's super
sobering and it really adds a level of like oh right we are this isn't just a movie we're talking
about like one of the worst historically the worst thing that ever happened to anybody and they
they don't shy away from that stuff um the acting's incredible and i just think it's worth seeing
for russell crow's performance like alone he's so good in it
So I really, really liked it.
I know that it didn't get any nominations.
It wasn't like a giant splash, you know, outside of maybe people who saw it and liked it.
But I think you guys should take the couple hours to see it and decide for yourself.
It's called Nuremberg.
It's on Netflix.
I think still.
Yep, still there.
I hate how everything changes.
Like somebody could be listening to this like a month from now.
And they're like, what they said was on Netflix.
I know.
I know.
I hate that.
The only time you get lucky with, like, your documentary is a Netflix original, so that'll stay there.
Brian's thing, I think, is a Hulu slash Disney-owned thing.
Or an Apple original.
It's probably going to be there for quite a lot.
Yeah, this one's probably going to bounce around.
This felt like the kind of thing you'd find on, like, HBO or something is how it felt to me.
But I really liked it.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Like it a lot.
Hey, I heard you talk about Project Hail Mary.
Yeah.
And we, Matteo and I went to see it.
We're currently reading the book.
but we decided to see the movie before finishing the book because I don't I don't look at movies as spoiling the book for me.
I don't know why.
Sure.
It just it doesn't.
It actually I enjoy it probably more.
It doesn't bother me either.
I heard you talk about subtitles and all I could say is I can't hear without subtitles most of time.
Oh, you need them.
Does that make sense?
You would have liked it.
Oh my God.
I would have loved it.
So there's times where I'm just like, I can't hear it.
Where's the subtitles?
Yeah.
For me, it was perfectly coherent without them, but I didn't.
I honestly, I'll be honest.
I didn't know they did this.
I thought that was a surprise to me.
You could go to a movie and say, I think it's really cool.
Yeah, I want tickets for.
There's some theaters where they've actually got a thing in the armrest that you can plug in.
I know this isn't for people who can't hear at all, but for people who have more difficulty hearing,
there's a thing you can plug into the headrest that does,
headphone out of you.
Yeah. Oh, really? That's cool. I heard about something where it was like an arm that lifted up and put an
overlay in front of you. I've heard of that. Oh, that's kind of cool. Wow. That seemed crazy and
that seemed excessive expense-wise. I mean, it seems like you could do different. You could do
something that wouldn't cost that much, like the headphone or the subtitles thing. Maybe that's why
ours did it. Did you see the interview with Ryan Gosling when he said, what was your
favorite Rocky moment.
What do you say?
And he said it was a Rocky hate Mark.
Oh.
Because Ryan's friend, Mark was there.
It was all, it was ad libbed.
Yeah.
That's funny.
Really?
Okay.
Oh, that's really funny.
I have a favorite line, but I don't want to say it because I want people to experience
it.
Oh, it's such a good movie.
It's so fun.
I highly recommend.
Loved it.
My daughter's going with her friends soon, I think.
And they're going to, she's going to ball her eyes out.
I just know it.
Did your favorite line involve a giant piece of glass, Scott?
No, it involved.
Have you seen it, Brian?
Because they have a, they have a 3D print of.
Rocky?
No, not.
Yeah, no, it's the, it's Ryan Gosling's character.
Oh, the little, a little guy.
You can put it on your, you can put it on your.
Yep.
Did they do a, did they do a bucket for this brand, do you know?
A custom bucket?
They did.
Poplar bucket?
Yeah.
It looks like an astronaut helmet or it looks like Grace's helmet.
Oh, that's interesting.
When I saw, it's a Rocky's cube with Rocky on top.
Oh, really?
That's even better.
Yeah, the Elmo one was a helmet, was Grace's helmet.
My first thought when I saw what Rocky was up to.
Yeah.
As soon as I saw Rocky do anything, I went, Brian loved this movie because he's literally,
it's a race of 3D printers, these people.
It really is.
Totally.
Everything's 3D printed.
Yeah, yeah.
And they kind of stopped at like rudimentary 3D print.
They didn't care past a certain point.
They're just like, it needs to be functional.
It's okay if it's got a bunch of shitty shit.
There's no aesthetic to it.
Right.
I love that whole vibe.
It was so cool.
It was great.
So all three of us has seen.
All three of us have seen it.
Thumbs up.
Watch that movie.
It's a movie recommendation.
Yep.
And it did really well.
90 million over the weekend.
You don't do that in March.
That's crazy.
They did really good.
What's the theater mental?
Theater mental.
Theater mental.
TV's trying to see how scary is undertone because, you know, the sign says the scariest
movie you'll ever hear.
And I want to see it, but Tina's like, yeah, no, no chance.
I don't think we're going to movies.
We're going to movies tomorrow night, too, because we've got a trivia league on Thursday.
And so.
Oh, Hoppers is great.
I core.
I saw that.
I loved it.
but I the other one I did either you watch iron lung no no no that was a big deal
he's a twitch streamer yeah I was gonna say independent horror movie like from Twitch streamer oh from
Markiplier right I haven't seen that no um yeah I only I only read the wikipa
I still do that I was just a little weird the idea of like seeing a popular streamer
And it's a one man movie, basically.
It's just kind of him the whole time.
But do you know what he did?
Do you know what he did?
What?
No.
Because his movie made so much money, he went back to the crew and gave them all huge bonuses.
Well, he's a nice guy.
Nobody does that.
I've heard, I've heard to people who know him that he is actually legitimately one of the nice guys out there.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Maybe he should get into the manosphere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the kind of person I want influencing.
Yeah.
Plus he's, you know, the ladies like him.
He's good looking.
Well, there you go.
Those are our recommendals.
They'll be up on quicktm.l.
And, you know, heavy duty today.
Look how late we went.
8, 10, 18 in the morning.
Good, Lord.
This is the longest TMS.
I've been gone for a year.
Yeah, there's a lot to come out.
Anything you want to mention on the woodworking side or anything else going on?
Mark just released a compilation video.
We're celebrating 20 years online of whispering wood.
This year.
and so he's doing compilation of so the last one is shot projects and a few months ago he did one on like easy weekend projects so and he kind of does a whole voiceover
you know about the projects as of today nice nice gives you a little recap of you know what we've been doing
where you're going how it's gone yeah I think that's awesome we don't know where the hell we're
going. Tell him, tell him,
Gratz, though. 20 years is no small feet for anybody
to do anything. So that's awesome.
Nicole, stay out of trouble
and may all your Fortnite matches
yield swearing. Bye now.
All right.
We did it, Brian.
Excellent. Excellent. Well, I'm glad.
I'm holding tomorrow's phone call,
A, because we're late, but also it's worth
hearing, you guys need to hear it. It's so
good. Good. Oh, I can't wait. I love
the tease. Yeah. Anton
with a call about drugs and underwear. That should be
enough to have you hooked tell tomorrow everybody all right tomorrow it'll be about the jugs of
pee that's right so stay tuned for that uh the drugs of pee
uh also there's a mashup in post today it's a classic called uh fireside stories hey burdom part
one i think brian's going to tell the hey burdom story excellent uh in today's classic mashup
so stick around for that right after the song speaking of which brian you got one of them
I do. This one's going out to Jennifer. Jennifer did not put a, oh shoot, did she? I am now just seeing that there's a, wait a minute. Why does this say?
There's like a whole extra column in here now that I did not put in here.
In what?
Ice warm! What happened?
Uh-oh. Someone right-cooked when they meant to lift-click. There's an extra column.
Oh, shoot. Yeah, she posted this on March 15th, but it's not until March 12th.
28 that I'm supposed to play it.
Well,
Jennifer,
I think we're going to get to it early
because I've already
got the song queued up,
so this is going out to you
a little bit early,
but we'll be thinking about you
also on April 28th
in over a month.
Jennifer says,
I thought about writing this for years
and never got around to it.
Finally made it for 40,
but you all were in Vegas.
Retweaked it for 42
and still keep forgetting
to send for a month now.
Not sure if that's my age
or the ADHD,
she says.
It's a little bit long,
but that's all right. We're going to go through it.
Ahoy, scurvy and barnacle.
To the morning stream, I do listen.
On my commute, my smile does glisten.
But much to my regret, each year I forget to send in a musical submission.
This year, I turned 42.
The answer to life, yes, that's true.
But don't panic.
I came well equipped, guide in hand, and towel tightly gripped.
She went from Limerick to just ABAB.
I like it.
Whether it's songs of pirates and rum or a sea shanty chorus to hum,
and he tuned with a comedic flip.
or something from Medieval Fair, the weird of the better, I swear.
Now it's A, A, B, B, B.
Like the M&M, man.
This is great.
Give me bold rhythms and laughter with hooks that will hit even faster.
The selection of song can never be wrong because, of course, I leave that to the talented
covermaster.
Back to a limerick.
We love you, Jennifer.
You're the best.
Yo-ho, the show, though, Jennifer, Assistant Cracking Negotiator.
See, she understood the assignment.
A three-word title.
Assistant Crack and Negotiator.
And look at it this way.
Look at it this way.
She delayed it so long to get it to you.
Now you're giving it to her early just to give a little bit of that time back.
This is all worked out.
Exactly.
Yeah, it all worked out just fine.
All right.
So this is fun.
This is a cover by Hildegard de Blingen, von Blingen, Hildegard von Blingen, who's known for doing these great medieval covers.
So this is something you would hear at a Renaissance festival.
It's less sea shanty, but more.
Renfair,
Renfair, and freaking this is awesome.
It's a cover slash parody
of Chapel Rhone's Pink Pony Club
called The Pink Pony Inn.
Here is Hildegard von Blingan.
I know wantest me to stay.
I cannot deny these maddening visions
of me in Calais.
There is a wondrous place
whereupon can be a queen
every blessed day.
I have these wicked dreams.
Do you know,
A-Lieving Anisee,
O St. Cecilia,
I swear she calleth me,
shan't make my mother proud.
The thought is too obscene
To see her darling girl
I know that she shall scream,
Love, thou'rt a pink pony maid,
Thou shouts be a nun,
The boars let on the wall
It leaks away, crying,
Thou shouldst be a...
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Once again, pull up a chair as Scott and Brian share a story by the fire.
What will they talk about today?
Brian got a voicemail, a Google voicemail.
Right, so I got my Google voice account, which, you know, I don't think I've ever used for anything.
Yeah.
I think I just got it because it's like, all right, well, I better pick up a Google voice account.
Came to email yesterday to the following voice account.
voice nail.
Hi, Burtum.
I just call you, are you feeling today, darling.
Have a good evening.
God bless.
Love you.
Boboy.
Buh.
What's that actually?
Boboy.
Let's just one more time.
Hi, Burtum.
Okay, wait.
Hey, Burtum.
So you're not Burtum.
I was thinking maybe it's darling, but you listen to it again.
It's not.
Hi, Bairdum.
It's Berdem.
Burtum.
Hey, Berdem.
That's just called you.
Are you feeling today, darling?
It's calling to see how you're furling today.
Burrum.
It's like punctuation for her.
I'd like, uh, well,
I need a fred ford and a, uh,
I get that with fries, birdham.
Oh, that's awesome.
All right.
If you get more of those,
give over, all right?
Sure, sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks for listening.
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