The Morning Stream - TMS 2987: Double Patty Business

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

My Crunch Wrap Was Not Supreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme! Hey Dooby Brother! cut that hair! Buck Fiddy Glizzy. Crazy Rich Neighbours. I am no Chuck! We Have Stuff... & Things! Is it too early to get a walleye sandwich? Cod Adjacent. Too much meat for Brian. Web-based Nar. Chuckfusion. In n Out, the experience. All your schedule holes are belong to us. College, the best time to be poor. Pooping On Your Yum w Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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there are a number of ways we can make fun of her name like Kong Pau or I suppose Tid Poo. So let's have none of that. It's very important you fully prepare yourself for what you're about to see. The morning stream. They're coming to get you, Barbara. There's one of them now. Hello and welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for April 2nd, 2024, 5, 6.

I know I did that. I wasn't expecting the April, the 2024, to come into play. I know why I did it because I was looking at a comic I did and I put it up on all the socials today. And it was when I drew in 2024. And it's right here and I'm looking at the date like a dumbass while I were reading the wrong date. So yeah, don't do that. There's a podcasting tip for you folks. Don't look at other dates when the real date is somewhere else.

Don't do that. For sure. No, that always messes you up. Yeah. But we're here. It's me and Brian. We got stuff. We got stuff.

It's a Thursday. Stuff. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit less stuff for me. today. No coverville today. I know we probably will cover that later, but cover it. But

got a Patreon meeting and then I've just got some stuff I've got to get prepped and worked on. But there will be a guest the connection tomorrow. Oh, fun. Yeah. So right after we're done with Friday. Right after TMS Friday. Yep. Awesome. Look forward to that. Patrons.

Well, everyone. It'll be live to everybody. So yes. The whole world can see it. The whole world can see it. Let's get into it. We've got a lot to talk about today, and we've got, like I said, Wendy coming up later. Oh, you know what? Let's see if that text isn't her. Hopefully it isn't.

I think everything's fine. I think it's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're good. No answer. All right. Let's start with this. I want the world, at least just the restaurant world, the quicker food world, fast food, you might say.

Yeah, yeah. I would like, call it that. Some people call it that. I want them to get it together and just all you have to do is pay attention to what they're doing at In-N-N-Out. Now, In-N-Out, sometimes a little divisive. Some people love their food. Some people don't care for it. It's fine.

I think it's fine. Like if you put an In-N-Out burger next to a McDonald's and a Burger King and a Wendy's, I'll go to the In-N-Out. If Freddy's happens to be in that mix, I'm going to Friday's. Yeah. I'm the same. So, but even Freddy's could learn something from these guys. So it's like you go there and you get good food, consistent prices. Of all the places that jack their prices up to ridiculous levels after the pandemic,

they're like the only ones that haven't. Yeah. And when they have, it's been minor, you know? There's just no chance that they're going to do anything with those menu boards, which haven't aged, haven't changed since 1983. No, they've been, I feel like there's even a brand new one. I swear they go. Now make sure that sign adheres to the 83 aesthetic that we're trying to nail.

Exactly. Impact bold. Four items. Yeah. And they're not going to go and make them all electronic or any of that. Right. It's just like, here's what we make. Here's why we make it. Yeah.

I don't even think like all these other places, I think you can pre-order on your phone. I know you can. I've done it with Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Freddy's, all of them. It's true. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, by thought. But I don't think you can't.

I don't think there is an app for In and Out. I think it's just we are doing things the way we did them in 1983 and we are never going to change. Yeah, it really feels that way. And they lean into it so hard. There's also the insane level of customer service. They train these people like I've never seen anything quite like it. Yeah. In like front facing customer service type stuff.

They take really good care of their employees, which helps that, I'm sure. They got college fund stuff they do. They pay them like a living wage. Like it's actually like great to work there and kind of hard to get in. You don't just wander in there. Some teenager going, oh, can I work here? Like they'll. They do a vetting like a big vetting process.

Yeah, they're going to, they're going to, they want good people. It's my understanding. So it's not so simple. You just get in there and get a job and then, you know, pee in the fries and leave or whatever people do. Well, thank goodness for that. Yeah. They're always fast and correct.

I've never had a order to go wrong there, not once. Yeah. And they won't take a tip even if you want to give them one because they have a rule against tips. And they're always very nice about it. I'm sorry, we can't take tips, but thank you. That's very nice. But they won't do it.

And part of that is because they're actually getting paid well. So why can't they all do this? Because when I go to a Taco Bell and I'm like, hey, I'd like to whatever. And I order my thing. And he's like, hold on a second. Did you want? No.

Okay. Did you say diet? Yeah. Right. Okay. And then they finally get it to me and it's like half unwrapped. The beans are tumbling out of the back end of my burrito. Your, your country up supreme is really a soft taco. Yeah. There's nothing supreme about it. Yeah. Nothing matches photos. They have jacked their prices. Like, yeah. I understand that I understand that there's a difference in like the way franchising works for say Taco Bell McDonald's, whatever. versus what Jimmy or In and Out does because In and Out still owned by the same family that owned it in the first place and they Are they not like You when you go to In and Out you're not going to somebody's Somebody's owned

franchise you're going to somebody's managed Correct I believe that's correct by the family but yeah I believe that's correct I'm not 100% sure on it recently Like if anything's changed but for the longest time It was the reason that took him so long to get out of California and spread around as they were just, you know, very tightly controlled in terms of, you know, menu and how we do it and everything else. So however they do it now, and with all this expansion, maybe that's changed.

But man, they've got it down to a science. I just think it needs to be studied. Like, can the rest – because we got it yesterday because we were in a hurry. We had to, like, grab something quick. We're like in and out's right there. Let's go there. And every time you go, you just walk out going – It's a good – it's always a good experience.

Everybody's friendly. Everybody, like, you know, you don't feel dismissed when you place your order. You're going to the counter or going through the drive-thus like, oh, what can I get you?

Hold on. Hold on. I don't really want to be here. What did you want? Exactly. It's always like, hi, what can I get for you?

I mean, if, you know, if Chick-filet didn't have that one thing. Because everything else about Chick-fil-A, their service, their friendliness, all that stuff.

All the kids who work there who don't who subscribe to the the horrible practices of the owners of the thing it's you know

it's if they had that if they fix that one thing they'd be as good quality wise they're pretty good too they're a really good experience when you go there and I know that they

they're more franchised like I think they're a different kind of are they deal because our one down here we know the couple who I think own the franchise. Now I don't know for sure. I'd have to go back.

Okay. But anyway, I'm not sure how they do it. But I really like that. And I'm just saying if they can do it, there's no reason in the world that Burger King can't do it or Wendy's. Like I took a recent trip to Wendy's. That was a freaking nightmare.

They just don't want, nobody wants to be there. They're all miserable. There's no respect for the jobs they have. They don't pay them enough. Like, it's just, but they're probably. prices keep going up.

I don't know, man. Right. Freaking. I get the, like obviously all that stuff is really just getting dependent on the management at the local location. The McDonald's by me is like that. Like they couldn't give two craps about you. And it's evident when they, you know, they come on the speaker, have you done an order with the app? Okay.

What can I get for you? Yeah, yeah. Like, you're putting them out because you didn't place your order on the app and you're just picking it up. But the Wendy's by us is like, it's like they must have gotten former in and out or chickfil-a people. That's good. Dave Thomas would be thrilled to hear that, actually. Yeah. The Taco Bell, sadly, is, if there's a spectrum between those two, the Taco Bell leans more towards the McDonald's apathy than the Wendy's experience here.

Travis says Wendy's is either fine or absolutely horrible. There's no in between. He says, there probably isn't. Yeah, it's true, right? It's like they probably shuffle people around stores to say, well, we've got 14 really good people at this Wendy's. And we got one really good person to this other Wendy's. We'll move the really good person over to the 14 good people Wendy's.

Yeah. And the problem is the ones where you know they're good like that are too far away. The Taco Bell in St. George is amazing. There's a Wendy's in Centerville that's very good. But these are all hours away from me. Yeah. You know? I don't know.

I'm just saying if we want, I understand the food's shit for the most part. You should eat something healthier. I get it. But you know what? It's not much better at these other places. Sometimes. The Kidoba guy doesn't look real happy either when I talk to him. we got to take better people better care of the people that's the lesson here exactly it's clear the people

in and out are actually being cared for that they matter that they're considered an important resource for the company they feel they feel valuable by the valued by the company and i don't i don't ever go in there and go look at these loser kids with these hats on i never do that no you know you know maybe hot dog on a stick or whatever it's called but um but certainly not uh in and out yeah yeah um yeah um yeah I just, you know, I just, I wish the, the, the, I just wish the burgers were on par with, with Freddy's and I don't know what to say, what it is that they need to fix, what they need to do to them because, oh, and I'm not a fan of the fries. I'm not a fan of the fries at either in and out or Freddy's.

I don't like the little skinny fries. Give me the fat Wendy's fries. You're like a big fry, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the Wendy's ones, again, if done right, they're amazing. Yeah, because they're potatoy and, you know. Yeah, you've even got some potato skin on the outside edges of them. But half the time they came out kind of wet.

Right. Not fully cooked. Dark in color, which means they've absorbed the oil, but not crispy, which means they haven't been fried long enough in the oil. And the chat kind of has this right. A bunch of people are saying this. We're talking about publicly traded companies versus curated, owned, non-public companies. And so if you wonder why, you know, Costco takes such great care of their employees. or these guys do or how great things are at Valve.

You always hear what an amazing job it is to get a job at Val. It's almost impossible to work there. But it's like they're the only gigantic gaming company in this industry that's worth billions upon billions upon hundreds of billions of dollars that isn't public. It's just a privately owned thing. And they don't have shareholders pulling them 20 different directions. Not right.

Exactly. They don't have to answer to them for like say, well, you need to hire some cheaper employees that, so that we can make more of a profit, folks. It's hard to think of a company that went public that didn't just crash out or didn't get worse because of it. And there's probably some examples of where it's been fine. But, oh, Costco's publicly traded. There's one right there then.

Oh, okay. I didn't know that. They take great care of their people. And I know that founder went to bat for that buck 50 hot dog. When he dies, whenever that is, what are they going to do? We're going to lose it. of his death that they can re-evaluate the price of the buck 50 glissie it sounds like he was so hardcore about it that that may be the case like you're not under on my dead body are you changing

that and the shareholders are like all right yeah i like our Costco a lot culvers you know what fred fred the 13th says uh our local culvers gives you the in and now experience i will i will back that up yeah the culvers not too close to me um but close you know i can get there if I need to in 15 minutes maybe um you like the food I do like the food the burgers are good right now because they they hold they totally do the lent things so um you can until good Friday until tomorrow you can get a a really good uh fish sandwich and what is it it's walli i think oh that's that's supposed to your standard cod yeah or cod like material cod like yes exactly uh but their burgers are good they do the custom

thing as well for their, you know, their shakes, their ice cream is the custard. So they're, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll back up that Culver's is a good experience, too. It's too bad they were too far when I did my driving around to all the fast food places for a fish sandwich. It's too bad that Culvers was so far away because I would have, I would have put theirs up against any of the ones I had. I may have to, I haven't been in ages. Like, just don't remember. I used to love Smashburger, for example. and they're not as good as they used to be.

No, they're not. As a matter of fact, I don't even know where the closest smash burger is to me because the one that was five minutes away is gone. It's a, I don't even know what it is now.

Spirit Halloween. Yeah, probably. But today, it is, it is burrito day. Oh. You know, national burrito day. So if you have a kudoba near you, it's buy one, you get one free.

So you go there and you buy one breeder, you get a free breeder. Wow. Yeah. That's not bad. That's not bad at all. So do that if you've got a cute opening. You take advantage of that. I think Cafe Rio has like a, oh, that'll give you. You got sick at Cafe Rio. That was the last time I barfed. Yeah. The whole family got food poisoning at Cafe Rio. Okay. So maybe don't go to Cafe Rio, but they've got another, they've got a deal there. Anywhere that serves a burrito is probably doing some burrito deal. So. But they're a good example of they were insane when they started. They were small. They were family owned. Yeah.

They started here. They were incredible. And then an investment firm bought them out and everything went to shit. Just downhill. Locally anyway. I don't know about their expansion to Arizona and other places. Maybe it got better. But here, everyone's just like, don't go there.

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All right, let's get to this story here. A record setting, oh, speaking of fast food, I didn't mean to do this. That's funny. Yeah. They're kidding. Record setting Big Mac eater underwhelmed by McDonald's new Big Arch. So we've talked about this guy before. This is that Wisconsin dude.

Oh, he's the dude who has a Big Mac every day, right? Yes. That's the guy. Donald Gorsk. Am I saying it right, I think? Sure. Where is that? Yeah, Gorsk.

Yeah. Gorski. You'll probably recognize him people because he just, this is the photo you always see of him. He just looks like this. He eats a Big Mac every day and he hasn't cut his hair or. even looked at, I don't know, how to get it styled since 1973. No one, has no one said anything? Like, do you think, do you think no one?

Like with all this notoriety for his record setting Big Mac consumption, nobody's ever walked up and said, hey, dude, Donald. He do me, brother. Maybe do something with that, maybe do something with that hairdo. Oh, it's very doby brothers. Holy crap.

Yeah, he locked in and never changed. but yeah anyway it says he holds the seemingly unassailable rural record after eating nearly 36,000 Big Macs over his lifetime has found McDonald's widely publicized new offering the big Archburger underwhelming during he did a brief interview on Sunday on his landline telephone Wow are you shocked the Guardian dot com throwing some shade well he's got he's got landline hair So may as well have landline internet or landline phone communication. It does feel like a guy who's kind of unwilling to, you know. Yeah, change.

Catch up. Yeah. Like that time X watch or whatever is he's wearing. Oh, sure. Yeah. Is it a Cassio that has a lot of little buttons? Oh, that would be perfect. That would be perfect.

This one just got dials, but it looks like something like my grandpa would wear. Quick, what kind of card is you drive? Oh. I'm going to say, I'm going to. I'm going to say it's a Oh shit. It's a VW Microbus. That's pretty good.

What was the Gremlin? The Gremlin? Yeah, Gremlin's a good choice too. Yeah, I'm going Gremlin. Hey, I said it before you read links. Yep, he did. I didn't take no credit. I saw it.

El Camino is also unacceptable. El Camino's, yeah, especially if you got to move a lot of big match around. During a brief interview on Sunday by his phone, Donald Gorsk said he found the white cheddar cheese and tangy sauce that came on the big arch. His son brought him to try on March 8th as less than preferable to him than the fixings of the Big Mac. He has eaten twice daily since May of 72. So he's still doing that since we were two-year-old kids.

Is he the best person to judge a new burger at McDonald's? Like when you've had 36,000 Big Macs and somebody brings you the Big Arch Burger, do you feel like after all that time you're going to say where has this been all my life or do you think it's like oh this isn't a big neck? Yeah, he's got a taste. If you've had 36,000 of anything, you're going to have a taste for it. So when something else comes in, it's going to be, it will be an acquired taste now to try anything else. It feels like he's eating two of those a day. I mean, my gosh.

Right. I mean, if you did nothing, if you watched only. Star Wars, a new hope, day in and day out, felt like, you know what, this is the perfect movie. I'm never going to watch any other movie. And then somebody said, hey, let's go see Project Hail Mary. You're going to be like, yeah, but there's no lightsabers. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point.

If all you do is one thing, how would you ever be the guy you'd want to test something new? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. He's clearly only does one haircut, one burger, one car, or whatever we've made up for this guy, one watch. He's had. So he's, he's had sex at least once. Yeah, at least one time. Oh, the poor lady.

Just kidding. Just used to the smell of Big Mac is what she is. She's used to special sauce, and I don't mean that as a euphemism. He just like, just reeks of the Big Mac. Gross. Let's see. The last paragraph. Have you seen the video of the McDonald's CEO?

Oh, yeah. I love that thing. Takes a bite of it and it's like, okay. And barely, like, nibbles the edge of it. Barely gets a bite. And he's like, now that's a great product. It's like, are you, are you Tim Cook? What are you doing?

Right. Yeah. That's so dumb. It's just fantastic. I haven't had one. I kind of'm curious about it. I've been thinking about maybe grabbing one, but. Isn't it?

It's like a double paddy business, right? It's a bigger burger. Yeah. But not a double patty. It's like two quarter pounder patties as opposed to two big Mac patties. Correct. The two big Mac patties are the good thin jobbers. Yeah, you do this thing.

You're actually asking for a whole lot more meat. Also, it's wider. So it's more like a, more like a wopper style. More of a disc, less of a stack. Less of a stack. Yeah. I don't know if that's the way to say it or not, but. I am tempted to go to McDonald's and get their new K-pop Demon Hunters Media.

Oh, shit. What's that about? What's in there? It's chicken nuggets and fries and two different, like, demon sauce and Hunter, Hunter sauce, Cajun demon sauce. Ramion McShaker fries, so the, like, the ramen that they scarf down, that they warned kids not to scarf down your ramen. Oh, right. Yeah. So it's in a, it's like a happy meal variant.

It's like a happy meal variant, but it's, it's, it's, I feel like that's, you know, that's the happy meal that's made for adults, sure, kind of thing. Sure. And then I guess a pack of cards where... Yeah, it looked like collectible cards or something. And I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure you're just getting the three cards of the three, the three demon hunters.

The three ladies. But you can also do the Saja Boys breakfast. Oh, really? Yeah. Which is, uh... Tell me that comes with one soda pop. It does come with one soda pop. Of course.

Of course it does. Yes. What a dumb thing. You know what? That'd be fun to get, though. And you know what? I could give all the extra crap to the kids because they love that movie. There you go.

Because I don't need it, but I would love to just, you know, be a part of the pop culture. Yeah. If you do one of those big arches, you let me know how it is. Like it said, it feels like too much, too much meat for me. Yeah, I'd probably just do it all at a card. I don't want a whole. Yeah. The fries are what kill you anyway.

Or pull the patty off, pull one of the two patties off or something. Yeah. Plus, these are still the kind of fries that you can have in your car for 22 years and then... They really don't change, yeah. And they hold up, man. They stay, they stay whole. I don't like it. Josh over at Chip Theory says that Raven said the sauce is pretty spicy for McDonald's.

Like the Cajun demon sauce is pretty spicy. Oh, I wouldn't have guessed. But, yeah, if you don't like spicy, maybe avoid the Demon Hunter meal at McDonald's. Yeah. Or just use the hunter sauce and not the demon sauce or whatever it is. Yeah. And here's a third idea. Something wrong, Batman. Has anybody seen Wendy? Talk to Wendy about fast food. That's even a better idea. Yeah, even a better idea. Hey, Wendy, what's going on?

Hi, for real, you guys went and got the demon. No, we're thinking about it. We're talking about it. Yeah. Just for fun. I'm more likely to get that than the double, the half-pounder are a big Archburger. Yeah. Archburger. Yeah. You saw that CEO video, by the way, Wendy? It's amazing, right? It's so good. And I love the Wendy's Twitter handle or whatever that's like,

who even buttons their top button? Yeah. Yeah. The Wendy's social media accounts on all social forever have been like the most sarcastic, rude. Very good. I don't know if Dave would like it. I don't know either. Or it's the ghost of Dave getting back at everybody for screwing his company up.

Oh, wow. Yeah. But Wendy and I have a special connection to Wendy's because when we were kids, that was the go-to if you were out with dad or whatever. You'd go to Wendy's because he loved it there. And he would call it, he just called it simply the Wendy Burger. So he'd go, you guys want to get a Wendy burger? And we'd go. And sometimes it wasn't even Wendy's.

We'd go to like McDonald's and he was still saying it was a Wendy burger. And then when they asked what he wants, he wouldn't go Big Mac or Wendy's double or any of the things that are on the menu. He would say, give me your deluxe burger. That's what he would say. every time. Really? Yeah. I used to annoy me as a teenager.

Now I miss it horrible. It's cute. And I mean, the thing I remember most is the frosty, man. That was like the greatest thing. And you would be freezing cold and it would have, remember those atrium Wendy's that used to have the... Yeah, like a little greenhouse in the front. 100%.

And you would sit there and freeze your butt off while eating a frosty. I love that. Yep, I did too. I got a lot of fond memories of that. And if you were just traveling with dad for any reason, Wendy's was his first choice. We might end up into McDonald's if there was no, it wasn't a Wendy's around.

Yeah, but it was always a deluxe burger. Man, that's really funny. And what would they say like, oh, sorry, you're saying. Yeah, every time they would struggle. They would just say, just give them a big mac. It would probably good. Lettuce and a pickle, it's deluxe.

Yeah, a real with cheese. No, he didn't ever do that. Well, anyway, Wendy is here. She's here each Thursday that we're on the air anyway. Last week we were gone, but she's here today to talk about stuff dealing with mental health. She's an actual mental health professional, and you people at home are getting the free benefit of listening today and hearing her advice. We have an email today that Wendy approved prior to this. And per usual, I'm going to read it.

Wendy, anything you want to set up before I read it, or are we good? All right, here we go. Dear Wendy, I have a situation that is hard to describe. I have a cousin I love dearly. We've been best friends most of our lives. we've never had a falling out, though I did distance myself from her once for my own well-being. It's interesting. Now that we're older, I'd like to think we've grown and learned to embrace the people I love despite our differences.

We recently moved across country and now live about 15 minutes from her, the only person I knew when I arrived. But I've noticed a pattern that it's increasingly frustrating me, and I'm not sure how to handle it without damaging the relationship. Simply put, she puts down most, sorry, she puts down almost everything. we invite them to a concert. The answer is just, isn't just no, it's we don't like that band. They come to a movie with us, and she mentioned she prefers watching it at home. Or she has something negative to say about every restaurant. Nothing seems to land in a positive frame.

I have a theory. I think she may feel less than in certain situations and compensates by, quote, unquote, winning. If she can't afford the concert or dinner out, it's easier to say she doesn't like it. Beyond activities, this spills into conversation, too. she dismisses what I say or reframes it as if she said it first, I often leave feeling put down or dismissed. I suspect there must be some jealousy involved, though I go out of my way to avoid making her feel that way. Our financial paths have been very different, and I'm mindful of that. One thing that puzzles me, despite living there seven years, she has no social life outside of

her husband, same pattern as her first marriage. Meanwhile, I've been here five minutes and I'm already building friendships. When I bring her into those social situations, though, she's warm, engaging, and personable. So what's holding her back from, or sorry, what's holding her back on her own? Our dinners together at least, sorry, at each other's homes go well, and I treasure that, but I find myself hesitating to reach out otherwise because I dread being smacked back. I know some of this is on me, but any suggestions on how I can improve my own response to her, thanks in advance. L is what we'll call them. So what do you think there?

Familial, I guess it's a little different with cousins, right, than siblings, but we may get it into some of that. Yeah, like it's family and there's maybe more friend vibes, right? Less obligation, a little more friend, which is fun. Okay, well, I think she revealed the secret to why her cousin doesn't have a social support system. And that is she poops on everyone's young. I think it's yuck on everyone's yum. Yeah, but I like poop on your yum. Don't poop on my yum.

Exactly. Don't yuck on other people's yum. And that is honestly the fastest way to like ruin a connection. But there's reasons people do it. It's not like, you know what I want to do when I grow up. I'm going to yuck everyone's yum. And then I'm going to love me. You know, it's not like a, it's not something she's obviously trying on purpose.

But it has this sort of vicious, self-fulfilling prophecy problem, right? Where I yuck on someone's yum and they're like, okay. And then I think what they're doing is dumb and I have my story for it. And then they're just, they didn't talk to me again because they're full of their gross yum or whatever. Like you have a built-in reason why I'm disconnected to this person and how you're not wrong. Right. And that is problematic in that it's really hard for. people do want to sign up to hang out that way. And so here's this person who's coming in and building

a life. And I mean, just look at the list of inviting them to all sorts of things. And, you know, like that is, it's an extender, a person who's bidding for connection. And, you know, it's working. And people respond well to that because everybody wants to be invited and everybody wants to feel included, but I think the emailer is correct that we've got some insecurities that are maybe on display. Okay, so let's just take a few she's mentioned. I think it's a she. Yeah, I think so.

They are different financial situations, right? Yeah. So this one is a really common, tricky one to just feel really different from somebody else. And because it shows up all the time, if you need to save money and you're, you know, trying to cut down on grocery bill or you don't want to spend money on the gas. I'm naming two things that have gone up or rapidly in the last two years. Anyway, that is like how do you do that when this other person is saying,

yo, let's go do a thing that is gas money, is food money. And then, you know, and so. Ticket prices or whatever. Yeah. It's expensive to do one night. Yeah. And maybe that's not in your budget and you feel stupid about it and you wish you could go and you actually want to.

And so you might have 10 strategies you're not even thinking about, but you're using. And there are things like that band's stupid or, you know, look at you with all your money, just doing whatever you want, you know, whatever the way internally this feels. And then it's coming across. And you're trying not to create that. But that is there. So you think you think part of it might be, well, I don't make as much money as them. I don't want to let them know it's a money thing.

So I'm just going to say I'm avoiding this because I don't like that band or I don't like that movie or like watching movies at home better. Yeah. As opposed to as opposed to saying, oh, sorry, can't afford it. Have fun. Right. Right. And if you're with somebody who you're a similar financial situation, this is what

college is so fun and why I feel bad for rich kids in college is that it's the best time to just be poor. Yeah. And the best time to be like, how do we? scrounge two bucks so we can go get a weird hot dog. Right. And share it. You know, like the greatest food I've ever eaten has been junk garbage in the middle of

like an adventure that nobody has any money. Like that is bonding 101. And so as you get older and things diverge and, you know, it's hard to click unless you're in a sort of similar situation because you're just not aware. truly people are clueless and so I'm going to speak to the emailer because this is the one asking for the help right you're clueless you don't you're you're and I mean this in a lovely loving way but like you really don't know what this is like and so but you are aware of it enough which is great so you've done half the battle and but you don't know the feeling the feeling you're having is I'm very bold today so everyone

forgive me but the feeling you're having I like it boldness is good let's do it yes It's not, I usually allow, but it's happening. Go move on to Extra Bold. I can't help it. Oh, Extra Bold is like the, your font now. Now your font. My font.

Anyway, so is this idea of like trying to do things to connect and like that's the need you have right now. So your need is to connect, invite, have this like, this is, you know, adding to your social system. You're building like a wonderful life. Awesome. them, but guess what you don't think about is how you're going to pay for groceries or gas. And so you have a different deal going on and you don't feel what this person feels. Okay.

So if the other person was emailing me, I'd be like, all right, girl, we got to stop with the negativity. You're not going to have friends, right? So I would be just as harsh the other way. But this idea that I'm going to do it all right or I'm going to say the right thing or I'm going to be careful or I'm going to keep inviting or I'm, you know, I'm the good guy here is going to backfire if you aren't careful with just maybe a little humility about I don't really get it. So maybe you've had a time in your life where you didn't have a lot of money. And so you can kind of remember and then think, yeah.

But that is very different than your adult world when people around you are doing really well and you are not. Right. It's different. So some humility of not that you have to have this experience or be this person or but to stop thinking maybe you get it. And that is tricky for all of us, right? Think of any like online dispute between two people for any reason,

or random strangers usually or bots. I don't know what even is happening anymore. But you are so there is this tendency to be like, that's not my experience and you're just ready to go to blows because you've had a different experience than whatever the meme is you're both looking at. And money is a really strong one here. Let's think of some other ones. Religion.

It could be politics, obviously. It could be what other ways. It's clearly that she doesn't really have like a fear of being around people she doesn't know because apparently when he, you know, he says when he brings her to social situations with other friends, she's warm, engaging and personable. Right. And it's not going, I hate that band and yucking everyone's young. Right.

So not an introvert issue. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad to brought that up because I was going to say. that is that this is reserved for you a little bit and why? Is it because you're cousins and it's easier? Or is it because you're being clueless? No offense. I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea. But I know I've been the poor girl before and the people are absolutely clueless. When they, when money is not a big deal. They don't think about it. It is not, you know.

The crazy neighbors, you know, do pretty well and they like going out to really fancy restaurants and they'll invite us. And so we, you know, we do have to come up with answers that aren't, oh, sorry, can't afford it. I mean, sometimes we just flat out do that one. It's no big deal. We don't, you know, we don't make as much as they do. But we'll, you know, we'll maybe invent another excuse every once in a while so it doesn't always feel like the same. Sorry, yeah, You tend to pick too expensive restaurants, but it's never, we hate French food or, you know. I'm so sick of escargo. Exactly.

Downtown on a Friday, forget it. You know, it's always, you know, 90% of the time, I'm sure it is the, yeah, sorry, can't afford to do it. But let us know how it is. Maybe we'll check it out on Restaurant Week or something. Exactly. And if that, if the grumpy cousin, we had her on the line, we would say, hey, we got a, we got to, We got to check in with some of this feeling scarcity. Yeah, like let's work some of that out, right?

But we're talking to the person who is initiating the contact. And I think, and this is something powerful for anyone to think about, is what is your agenda, right? Like, what is your goal here? And my guess is I'm going to speak for them, because I'm already doing that, is my guess is it's for closeness and family, right? You've moved across the country and you're now 15 minutes from your cousin. That's awesome. Like you want it to be something and that's your agenda. The hard part is so and most of us walk around with pretty good agendas.

Like we want a thing. We want connection. We want closeness. We want fun. We want whatever. And when it doesn't happen, we've got to look. We're often looking at the other person, right? So obviously this other person is not responding well to this dynamic and it's frustrating.

But then look at what you are maybe accent. accidentally creating because of your cluelessness. And I'm being harsher on you because it is not, you have to feel it to really get it. And you're probably not going to feel it. And so if, if you can understand maybe when someone else has been clueless to you, it's not quite the same and as fundamental sometimes as somebody's financial status or, or if people think they're dumb. That's another one that can have a really strong visceral like, well, you know, I went to college or, you know, whatever, right? There's ways to just make people feel less than that you're not meaning to do. And you might be doing it every time you invite them to something. They cannot

afford. So is there an alternative? So again, keep with, I don't know what their actual agenda is, but think about it. What is your outcome you are really hoping for? And then let's work ourselves backwards. So I just want closeness. Okay. Well, let's take the, the only way to be close with this person is, let's just for fun, say you can't spend any money doing it. Right. It's got to be like, come on over for dinner. We'll cook and that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. So find ways to meet your goal that do not put this person in that position of needing to put down everything. Right. And this is, And I'm saying it to her because she's the one asking and listening. But the other person, let's say if there's anyone out there doing the other person's

thing, is to figure out for yourself, like, how to get, like, what's your goal? Is your goal to make your cousin feel bad? Is your goal to, like, say, well, I'm sorry that you move 15 minutes away from me, but I'm trying to figure out a way to tell you I don't want to hang out with you. Yeah, exactly. If that's your real goal, well, we should talk about something. If your real goal would be to feel close to this cousin too and that you, wish this would work better.

Okay. Well, then my suggestion to that person was like, let's have a real conversation then. Yeah. And it's hard. I'm curious about something that they say at the beginning of email that, you know, we've never had a falling out, though I did distance myself from her once for my own well-being. And I'm sure if it was directly related, like, because she was doing this before, they would have said that in the email.

But I'm wondering if they, if it's something that they did that's kind of tangentially connected to this. Yes. And they don't realize that they're not making the connection. Yes. So that would be a therapist. Brian has a really good point. You guys listen to that. And it's very good, Brian. It's very $175 for the hour. Hey, you're cheap. That's pretty cheap. Yes. This is free everybody. Anyway, but that idea of like there's something else. I wonder if that's connected. What was it about? I mean, of course, they should have told us that part. But I think. And now, give us on the deep. And ages for this would have been good too. Because if they're, you know. Yes. If they're 25? Are we? Right. Right.

Or their 50s, yeah. Yeah. What is the story? I think the other thing to whatever that was, and their cousins, right? So they have a parent who is brother and sister or something. And maybe there's some weird dynamic there. And it could also be. And here's the other thing.

Here's my turn to rip on the other person. Is that there are people, this isn't a money thing at all who are just negative, right? They're still going to go by, go to that French restaurant and rip it apart. There still has to be a reason, though, right? They're negative just to be negative or they're negative because they feel like, you know, if I'm a critic of something, it sounds like I don't just automatically love everything and I'm a simp. Right, right. Like I'm more interesting if I'm criticizing everything.

Right. Well, it's like an intellectual mask sometimes of just like, I think this and I don't go with the flow or I'm not like others. Like you're doing it for a reason. So I would get curious about that. We're picking out the money part because the person wrote that money was an issue. Maybe it has nothing to do with that. Maybe it's just they really think your band choices are stupid. And it's the yucking of the yum.

So some of this is a social sort of norm that gets broken a lot. And some folks really struggled to even know they're doing it. So I would just assume this person doesn't quite know how negatively they're coming off. I've met many, many people who do understand why they don't have connections. And then when we dig into it and, you know, start to, you know, one of my jobs is to practice a relationship with somebody. So I am in the relationship with this person now. And I'm like, well, anytime I speak, you cut me off. So we practice like they get to show me a little bit of how they're behaving.

or, you know, and then in a real life setting, I can, it's much easier for me to go, I mean, you did pay me to tell you the truth. And here it is. Like you, your eyes blaze over if I say one sentence. That feels, you know, so then we're looking at is there some ADHD going on? Maybe some other kind of neurodiversity where you're just not, you're talking at people and you aren't reading the room or picking up on someone's cues. You know, we can do a lot of digging. But when you're just out in the wild live in your life and there's no one who's willing to connect and talk to you, we got to figure out maybe why. And so she's got a history, this one cousin, of only her partner is her person. And that there's nothing wrong with that, especially if she doesn't want anything

else, that's fine. But it sounds like she actually repels a lot of folks maybe who get close to her, except for the partner. But she can pull off these social situations. if it's if it's not deeper. So here's the cousin who is trying to make it deep. And maybe this is how she handles anyone trying to get too deep. So we got both people could use a little bit of help, right? Yeah. And so my final advice, though, for this person is to forgive me for being so bold,

but also just to check your, check your cluelessness, you know, maybe, maybe. See if there's a pattern to the things that she yucks. Yeah. Yep. And look around all your connections that you're making. Like, how are you doing that? And is it because you're all eating at a nice restaurant or money is a currency between you because you're in similar situations, probably based on your neighborhood or wherever

you congregate or whatever? So you might be just missing that. And so ask yourself, what is my ultimate goal here? And then work backward with your, the programming, right? which is, okay, keep it free and keep it connected. And here's my ultimate advice is just talk to this person. And start with my end goal when you talk. Say, I just, I want to be close.

And here's what I hope for. Maybe that's not even what you want. As opposed to the coming on say, why are you so negative on everything? Yeah. That's just going to make them defensive, like right from the get-go. They invite them over for lasagna. And if they say, I don't like flat pastas,

then then you know it's just something that they've got inherent in them and good luck yeah and if they're feeling jealous of you or you know you're there five minutes and have a bunch of friends and they've lived there forever that's that's hard right yeah yeah and so you might you might want to be a little gentle here that your life is awesome and maybe there's isn't as as as awesome and it wasn't 15 minutes away before so like some kindness and some humility will go a long way and and to you know, check in with this cousin. I mean, I would love to know what happened when you did distance before. Was it because of the negativity?

Was it because of some other thing? And then if it is, this person is it just a negative Nelly forever, right? The Debbie Downer, whatever. Then accept it, right? Stop trying to make this person something else too. That's where you're going to find peace. You're going to find that this is a cousin that it's fun to be close to, but this is this is kind of the arrangement that works well for us rather than and maybe letting go of

wanting it to be something it's not right that's kind of my final thought on that's a good I like it I like the boldness today I like the answers yeah and it's also like it's less stressful if you if you're trying to come up with all right what's the way I'm going to change this person by asking the right questions to get them to be the person I want just say all right you know they're they're you know they're going to occasionally yuck my yum I just have to find the right yums that we have in common. Yeah. Yeah.

And if you've got, I mean, I've got a situation with a couple that we used to hang around with all the time that I can barely set up a time with

anymore because they are super into round and brown people up into vans and taking them somewhere. They love that. They think that's great. Really? Oh God.

That would make things tough. And it doesn't come up a lot or anything. That's a young for them that I'm happy to yuck. Yeah. And that's the point. I'm never going to yum. I'm never going to yum.

I'm never going to yum that yum. I'm going to yuck that yum and I can't help it. And so just knowing that, it's like I just, we just can't. It's like, oh, we have to make excuses. I can't go or we're not, you know, because I just can't do it. So this is, I think she's got an easier path, right, than that. And it's family. So family does, makes it a little complicated, right?

Right. But in your case, I think, and I think a lot of people can relate to what you're saying is it feels like condoning. Yuck. And it feels like like it's a little. an almost a moral imperative of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no. But I think there's this other piece and it's asking that same exact question.

Like, what is your goal here? Like, what do you need? I mean, they, I think I know the people you're talking about and I think they need you and Kim because you guys are freaking rad. And so for them to lose you, but they don't truly know that it's hard for,

you to be with them, right? You haven't talked to them about it. I mean, they have to, right? They have to know that you lean. Oh, they definitely know I'm not into some of that stuff. Sure. Like that I, you're not into concentration camps? I think what they, I think they avoid talking about it in the same way I do. Yeah. But I see their Facebook pages. I see their, you know, I see what they're doing. And it's just hard. I haven't really like had a big confrontation where I'm like, hey, I don't like, I don't like. where your heads are at on this. And to me, it's just, it's just simple human stuff that bugs me. It's not about party.

I don't give a shit. I just am like, oh, you're, you're super into this. I am so not into this. How can I go to a movie with you? And when we grew,

when we were coming up in our 20s and we were very close, none of this was an issue because nobody was thinking about that stuff then. Sure. We hadn't gotten old and weird yet. So they, we were just like, dude, that new album's awesome.

I know. let's go pick one let's go to the record store and do they like there's the the things we cared about were the things we cared about and nobody was getting hurt and now it's like I don't know it's just like rah rah and I'm like no no and I just can't I can't go any further than that well okay right right right right and this is going to be so many people have experienced this it the question then is do I just need my that old friendship and then facing the reality of I may not be able to get that yeah but There's another piece to this is the people in my life that we see things pretty differently now, but we were connected a long time ago. You really just have to be face to face.

It's astounding. Like I had a friend say, I forgot how much I like you. And I was like, yeah, because I'm awesome. And it's because you think I'm something on the internet. I'm not at all. I don't even write anything on the internet. Like so, but your assumption is because you know, I don't believe that the Cheeto should be president of the United States, that you, you've got in your mind this whole separate monster in your world. And this is happening everywhere.

And that's why face-to-face matters so much. And that's why a real conversation matters. I know I'm asking a lot of people when I say, just talk, just have a real conversation, just go to lunch, you know. So I recognize avoiding is really fun and we all love to do it. but I don't know you take him to lunch and have a real conversation you know why people get more radical is because they only talk to people who think like them

or listen to things that say exactly no you're totally right yeah totally right I'm part and I just love some purple spaces people so it's good that you've got them you know it's yeah look at it that way actually the way I look at it is it's actually a little bit kind of my fault

because I feel like I'm so swamped and have enough, I have so much bandwidth for people that I'm like, man, I can't even, I'm not, that's just, there's no room in this for them right now. Yeah. Yeah. And that's very dismissive of me, right? That's me saying, I'm not going to deal with it because I don't feel like dealing with it. So now I'm not dealing with it. And that's probably not great either. Um, it's probably slightly better than wishing that a bunch of people get rounded up in bands. Well, and put into concentration camps, but you know what I mean. It's a little less, a little less if we're, if we're going to give

some severity rankings to these things. Well, anyway, I hope this is helpful to many people who heard it today. That's why we do it. And they should all be going to Know Better You.com for whatever's coming up. Do you have anything you want to mention that? Yes, on Sunday, Easter Sunday, I figured it was a great day to start. Health and PE starts. So you can go sign up there.

Also, if you, I did a, I can't say webinar anymore. A web-based gnar. Sure. Oh, yeah, there you go. Perfect. Seminar is on the web. You dodged it beautifully. On Tuesday night about being

neurospicy and I used a lot of physics examples. It was very fun to do. Oh, cool. Had a lot of people. It was great. So I'm going to actually post that on the website when I get five minutes so you can find it there.

Or if you want to email me, I'd be happy to send you the link. Or I can just give it to you right now. Can I do that? Yeah. Sure. And I'll just give you that. you the the YouTube link. I put it on YouTube like a moron. And I forgot that people would actually see my description. Oh, you were supposed to, plus you weren't you supposed to call me this

weekend? We were supposed to talk. Yeah, bro, we were supposed to talk Sunday and we had a lot. I don't know what happened there. That's fine. It's all good. So I sent you the link. There it is. I'm going to open that up. And I apologize to the people whose faces are showing the whole time because I didn't know how to make it not do that. So you might recognize yourself. It's pretty funny. No, but we had a great time. And I've got a lot of emails and feedback. It's been really fun.

So we start on Sunday. So I'd love to have you. And if we have scholarship still available, so we haven't had any takers this time. So please feel free to reach out to me and easy peasy. I don't think it's fair that when I turn 50, I'd look like a sock. Wendy still looks. You look like 33. I don't understand.

Yeah, yeah. How'd you work that out? It's because I don't yuck anyone's yum. Is that why? Your cortisol levels are all under control. That's what's going on. Bro, I have to say this, though. She doesn't eat in and out and Freddie's.

I don't know, but listen to our childhood diet, we're like, oh, frosty. Yeah, right? You're all going to die. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Those frosties will catch up to it, I'm sure of it. But right now you're aging like one of the Koreans. I'm just not comfortable with it.

Yeah. nicely done. All right. Well, best to the fam and we'll talk soon. Stay out of trouble by now. All right. NobetterU.com, everybody is the place to go. So sign up today. All right. Let's see. We got, I think one or more. Oh, we got to play this call. I didn't put it in the thing. No, I did. You did. Yeah. I'm sure. Oh, there it is. So good. Yeah. All right. We finally have some closure on something. So we hear this guy. Like every freaking day we hear this. This is about the jugs of pee. All right. Now, there's been some, like, oh, it's Chuck. No, it's not Chuck buyers. It's different Chuck, but not Amy's Chuck. Which Chuck is it? Turns out it's no Chuck at all. We assigned him a Chuck name, and he's no Chuck. He's no Chuck. But he is here to clarify, so here's his call. Hey, boot and scoot. This is about the jugs of P. My name is Cody, not Chuck. And I go by Fat Turtle. Love the show, though.

So it's Fat Turtle slash Cody. He's right there in the chat room right there. Was it in here now? With a three for the last E. Awesome. I love it. Do you prefer we call you Cody or Fat Turtle? How do you prefer it? Yeah.

I mean, we'll call him Cody. I think Cody. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I love how when he said this is about the Juggs of P. He sounded identical to the clip.

I know. It's weird. Like usually like if I say shit critifter, it's not going to sound exactly like the shit critifter thing that we have the audio clip from. But man, he nails it. Yeah. I don't like you know

We can't emulate that every time to sound exactly No it's really amazing I'll play in fact I'll do it for you seeing here Here you go This is about the jugs of P That's the new one Here's the old one This is about the jugs of P

It's the same with just a little volume difference That's it yeah yeah Dude you you got consistent jugs of P You need to do an audio book sir Yeah This chapter is Achievement You've done a great audio book clip

Achievement chapters about the jugs of pee, he'd say? Well, Cody, thank you for the clarification and finally, closure on the Chuck confusion. Yes, thank you, Cody. And sorry to all the Chucks that we've been tossing Chucks left and right. Oh, I know. I know. We just really want to sign the name Chuck to people.

Now we don't have to. Exactly. Well done, everybody. By the way, one thing you're going to get out of Wendy is an amazing appearance at Nerdtacular. She's going to do, she's part of a big panel that she's part of all sorts of stuff that we can. but she's on a big science, mental health sort of like mega panel that will have everybody from

Dr. Headbutt, Dr. Nicky will be there. Chuck Tolbert. Chuck Tolbert. Chuck Frankenberger will be there. Yeah. Actual medical doctor Chuck Tolbert. I'm very excited about Chuck Tolbert being there. All the Chucks will be there.

It's going to be real good. I think that's day two. We're doing that one. And it's going to be an epic deal. So, nerdtacular or sorry frogpans.com slash nerdtacular. Get your tickets now.

All right. That is it for the show. Frogpants.com slash TMS as you mentioned earlier. No coverville today, correct? No coverville today. Taking a week off. You know, it's one I've been needing to take for a while to get caught up with some other things.

This is the first week I've had in a while that doesn't have a sponsor so it makes it a little bit easier to say, okay, this is the week. And really what it would have been is maybe a set of seals and crofts covers and yeah who knows what else yeah no that's great

so yeah this is a sometimes you gotta do that you gotta just take a little space catch up day yeah I'm with you there there will be a core though today 1 p.m. mountain time core this head cold notwithstanding we are gonna bow John and scott it up for a few hours so come check it out

nice we're talking video games today we're talking Sony's sort of ridiculous price hike in the Oh, yeah. PlayStation. Yeah. Like,

let me, I'm going to share something with you that I think you'll find interesting. Sure. Please do. PlayStation console prices six years after release. Did a little math on this. Console, PS1, launched at $2.99.

Six years later, you could get that device for $99, a brand new one. They go down, right? Yeah. It's what you'd think. Natural. Yeah.

Commodified and whatever. PS2, $2. $2.99 at launch, just like PlayStation 1. $129. later. PS3 launched at an astronomical 599 at the time. Wow. Yeah. That sold later, six years later. You could buy one for 269, the slim. PS4, 399, and then $1.99, six years later. Nice drop on that one. And then PS5, we're now at six years. Four 99 at launch, which is 100 less than the PS3 was. Amazing. Yeah. 649. And that's before tomorrow, or no, today's.

new price hike. Oh, that's right, because it's going to go up again. Yeah, that's insane. The pros push in a grand, like 900 or nine something. Whoa. I mean, I get it. We're at a weird time, but normally the U.S. doesn't get stung by this. Canadians would be like, yeah, whatever, Scott. We always get screwed. Six years after a console release, we're paying more because, you know, we're not protected from it because the way their dollar works and the way this stuff works. In our case, we're just not used to this. So suddenly, I think this is a real, this is a bad, cater is what I'm saying. Thanks, Sony. And AI and everything else. Don't set this. Yeah, this is a dangerous precedent. Yeah, I don't like it. And I know Nintendo says they're going to raise theirs too.

I don't know when that's happening. Microsoft already did. The series consoles are higher already. So I don't know what's going on, man. So stupid. I mean, yeah, I guess, you know what? I guess, well, just need to start doing that vote with your wallet thing, like for real. Like, yeah.

I already have a PS5, but I'm not buying a pro now. There's no way. Exactly. Yeah, no way. And if you were planning on getting PS5, don't. No. You know, get something else. Yeah. I'll keep buying less expensive games on my PC. That is it for the show. Let us get out of here. Brian, let's play a song, if you will, if you might. Yeah. Getting, even though I have a bunch of April 1st request to get to you, I want to make sure I got to this March 30th request because Matthew Bach wrote in and said, turning 50 this year. My birthday present to myself is a ticket to me. Nurtacular 2026. Also bringing tons of games and I hope to play lots with everyone. So yes, you will.

Yes. We can't wait. He's part of the board game effort as he often is. All the old Nurtaculars, he always was. And he brings a truckload. And I'm telling you guys, the board game 24 hour room is going to be freaking lit if you're into it. If you're into it and you can be there all night.

I'm into that shit. Yeah. And you can be in there at 3 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. And I will be looking for me there with my head down on a 10. table with people medging me like um it's it's your turn could you please roll yeah that chit's not going to move itself brian come on exactly yes uh please please please move your doctor strange to defeat dormamum uh brian you brought this stupid marvel united game and we're finally playing it so please

stop sleeping yeah and apologies to dr calhoun apparently my woo a second ago uh really resonated in his earbuds well you'll have to get another doctorate show dr calhoun come on now new doctorate First time here, new doc who this. Anyway, so Matthew says, any scoss stuff you would recommend. Well, there's just lots of scoff stuff that I recommend. And I also recommend frequently checking out the Hall of Fonics albums. They keep putting out brand new albums and they're always really good. So every year, you know, they come out with a new one.

But the one I'm playing is not from that album. It's not by the Hall of Fonics. It's by the Scandalous All-Stars. another band that is just always consistently good in 1998 they released an album of punk covers ska covers of punk songs and uh they included this cover of blondies one way or another here is the scall scandalous scaski's good a scandalous all-stars production find all our shows at frogpats.com

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