The Morning Stream - TMS 3015: Hoity Floity

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

Etch-a-Sketch Bike Path. Olympic Vomiting. Take My Car Keys, Ladies! Wasp-Occupied Hot Tub. I don't like sweating PEEEEEEE! Eating Darts and Bowling. Quarters, what a scam. TSA Approved Chode Butter. ...TINA, where's my cycle suit. Pickling Balls with Dunaway. Heavy Millenials. Shoot Potatoes. Allen QuarterScam and the Lost States United. The Thickened Plottening. Big Tech Stuff with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you guys know that Batman's original suit was bright red in color? What a big mistake that was. Don't make big mistakes and instead support TMS today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, Etch-a-Sketch bike path. Olympic vomiting. Take my car keys, ladies. Wasp occupied hot tub. I don't like sweating.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Pee! Eating darts and bowling. Quarters. What a scam. TSA approved chode butter. Tina, where's my cycle suit? Balls with Dunaway. Heavy millennials. Shoot potatoes.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Alan Quarter Scam and the Lost States United. The Thickened Plottening. Big tech stuff with Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hi folks. This is Don from Don's Guns. Have I got a deal for you? Normally a membership here at Don's Guns is $100. I'll give you an American-made gun worth $80 as part of the membership.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Why? You know why? Because I don't want to make any money, folks. I just love to sell guns. Mankind has always been the poison. The morning stream. It's not the end. It is not the beginning of the end.
Starting point is 00:01:22 It is the end of the beginning. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream. For Wednesday, May 27th, 2026, I am Scott Johnson. And that is Brian. Hi, Brian. Yes. Live from Vermont.
Starting point is 00:01:42 That's right. It's Brian. How in the order of statehood, do we know where Vermont lands? How quick were they in? It's really on. They're within the first five or six, right? Because you got Virginia. Like, basically it was like all the settlements over here on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I want to say, if I'm guessing, and then we can look it up. I'm going to guess that Vermont is, was like, fourth or fifth? It sounds right to me. If I was going to guess, I'd say under 10. Let's see if we can get it. Definitely under 10. Let me do a quick look here. Vermont was admitted.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Oh, later than I thought. 14th. 14th, says Ms. McPyrrick. Okay. Yeah, 14th state, March 4th, 1791. Still pretty early. Yeah, I guess that's right, right? Because they did, you know, your, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia.
Starting point is 00:02:33 all up and up and down there. Trying to remember when the quarters, what order of the quarters all came out years and years ago? Oh, yeah. There was a quarter for every state and they released them in the order that the states were. When was that? Is that 80s that we got that?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Right around the centennial or something? Yes, I think so. Or, yeah, late 80s. I remember. September, it was 76. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it would have been later. but I just remember my dad being, he was convinced that was a scam.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And I, and I would be like, yeah, because I'm like, every, every, every, no, every, every quarter getting a state. And I remember, I remember going, well, that's weird for him to think that. So I asked him. Yeah. I said, dad, I says, why is this a problem? Or what's the deal? And he says, it's just to get everybody to collect a bunch of stuff. We're just going to, everyone's going to grab a bunch of quarters, going to hold on to him.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And I still, to this day, don't know what the scam is, though. Right. people are going to spend $12.50 on a collection of corners. I mean, it's one thing if it's like, you know, I don't know if the current administration made a run of dollars with his stupid face on him or something. Which, please, don't think that that idea hasn't been floated. Oh, I'm sure they're trying if I had to guess. I love that the current administration's phone, I'm going to say the squat goblin's name, but the current administration's name, but the current administration's phone, branded, name-branded phone that's probably made in China, almost definitely
Starting point is 00:04:06 100% made in China. That's already been proven out. That thing is not made here. Came out six months late and has already been hacked. Yeah. Already had data stolen. Yeah. And they're not what they were promised. They don't have the OS things. They said they would. What a bunch of suckers. Like two million people bought that freaking phone. Yeah. Idiots. Dummy. Dummy. Dummy. You get what you get, man. well done everybody uh hey uh quick note this morning uh as we we lean into our uh discussions uh we heard from our pal hooty in our community he's uh part of the pumpkin cottage bookstore and all that you hear his name here there great guy local to me uh just nicest guy you'll ever meet uh their their dog passed away and i wanted to give him a little shout out because their dog was named philip j fry and i love that i do too that's great because partly because there's that great because there's that great because there's that great episode of Futurama where
Starting point is 00:05:02 I forgot the name of the dog. Yeah, whatever the name of the thing was. But that, you know, it still makes Carter cry. Right? Seymour what? Oh, Seymour Butts was the name of the dog. Of course it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Right. Duh. She won't watch that episode over again, but she knows all the details about it. No, I won't either. That gets me too. Yeah. So this, when I heard this, I just got a little bit of that feeling, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Anyway, just hope you guys are doing all right. Or sweet part of our family. And in many cases, I like animals more than people. A lot more sometimes. Like, I won't say there aren't some exceptions. Of course. I mean, listen, I like my wife more than I like my cat. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Is there anybody else? Well, just kidding. Here's the thing. Present company excluded. Yeah. I had this revelation, but I had a feeling not long ago, and I expressed it on Facebook. but I truly believe this.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I think most of the people I trust in my life are women. And that's a weird thing to come to a conclusion on because I'd really ever thought about it before. But if I really... It's good thing, Scott, because you're in a house full of them. Well, that's true. That helps. But there's just this, I don't know. I just had this realization the other day where I went,
Starting point is 00:06:25 we were talking about some other... I came or what it was. I was talking to Kim about something. And it just hit me. I'm like, yeah, most. Most of the, like the truly trusted individuals in my, really my lifetime were all women. Sometimes they were teachers. Sometimes they were relatives.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Sometimes they were friends today. Sometimes they're just people in the community or whatever. Obviously, it's not like that black and white where it's all women, no men, obviously. But it's like a large portion of the people in my life that I would trust with things. They're women. Yeah. And I think that's interesting, right? Like, I don't know. I don't know what it means. It just means, you know, I think of the people that are closest to you, your wife, your family. I'm obviously Nick and Dylan are among the family men that you trust, but, and your brother, of course, and sisters and stuff like that. But I mean, you know, I look at, I look at your circle and that absolutely. tracks. That sounds right to you? Yeah, it does. It does. Yeah, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm not saying there are some people out there that maybe had the opposite experience. Their mother was the worst. The grandma was worse than her. I'm sure there is some form of this where, you know, I don't have the perspective on it, but I don't know. Sure. You want to hold my car keys? I trust the ladies. Trust the ladies. Please take them. Take my car keys. All right. Let's get to what happened yesterday. I was all excited to hear about Bryant's lunch and his first ride and all his stuff. I'm scared. Because like where we left off yesterday, it was a great, you know, great setup for all this stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Got up yesterday morning, ate breakfast at about 6 o'clock in the morning because I'm waking up earlier here naturally. Sure. Do daily music headlines. Wait a couple hours. Do TMS. And as you know, it's like, all right, basically, as soon as the show ended, I needed to get on the road, get into Burlington get my bike and then I was going to get something to eat along the way along the ride.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So I get down there and I go and I get the bike and I'm already a little bit late. I think I got down there just because there were a couple things I need to do here, change into my bike outfit and stuff like that. Did not bring any chode butter. I know that's a question in somebody's mind. I wonder what, I don't know if you, would you think the TSA would have any issues that showed butter? If you flew with it, I mean and not picked it up while you were in Vermont.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I mean, if I checked it, no problem, obviously, because they don't care about. liquids in your checked bag, which is what I would do, I would check it. Yeah, they'd probably have an issue because it's like a lotion. It's still considered a, you know, more than three ounces would be an issue. But I wouldn't have any reason bring more than three ounces. I've got little, little packets of chode butter that I could bring. Yeah. And they would probably, even if they asked, it'd be fun, though, because they'd say, what is
Starting point is 00:09:20 this? And you'd go, well, I'm riding my bike. We're doing some training. Oh, what do you use that for? Guarantee. That's my chode. every TSA agent there has seen saddlebutter or whatever they
Starting point is 00:09:32 whatever the brand name is I'm sure that they've seen it there are people who ride bikes who travel oh they'd have to right they would have seen it yeah yeah be fun to it would be fun to listen to you explain though you know what I mean yeah would be so I get I go get to the bike place they give me the bike and they say you know I said well I'm planning on
Starting point is 00:09:50 just riding down south is there are there some really good paved path south and he's like well I mean you should do the causeway. It's like our, you know, it's the big, it's the really cool ride here. I'm like, well, yeah, but the causeway, the bike ferry doesn't operate on weekdays. It's only on the weekends. He says, oh, that's not a big deal. You just go up there. It's still a great 10 mile ride or 20 mile ride round trip. I'm like, you know what? All right, why not? It's, I don't have to go across to the other side of the causeway or to the other side of the path where the boats come through.
Starting point is 00:10:25 so sure, why not? And he, absolutely right. Absolutely gorgeous ride. I put a photo in the, in our Discord. And it's just this gorgeous, like, look at that.
Starting point is 00:10:38 The first part of it goes along the coast, and then you go through a couple neighborhoods, and then you get to the causeway, which is this strip of land, rocks on either side, basically enough that if you, if you had to you could ride three bikes across, but I would recommend two bikes across
Starting point is 00:11:01 and I would say probably just do single file because people are coming the other way. Pedestrians and cyclists and things like that. It's just rocks on both sides for most of this. Rocks on both sides and you can't tell there. That is at the end of the causeway before, I know it's gorgeous. So pretty.
Starting point is 00:11:17 That's the end of the causeway that building you can kind of see the edge of on the left is where you wait for the bike ferry. Yeah. By my nose. There it is. Yep, by your nose. So that's basically the turnaround point.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And I looked down and it's like, oh yeah, almost just about like 9.75 miles. So almost 10 miles. Great. All right, let's start heading back. Now what I didn't remember or didn't realize on the way out is that the wind was at my back on the causeway. And it was a strong wind. And I'm riding head into the wind. like, okay, well, now we've got a little bit of a workout here. It's still flat. It's a flat
Starting point is 00:11:58 road with no hills or anything through the causeway. But it is definitely a lot, you know, by a factor of two, a lot more work. And listen, I've been busy with stuff, with freelance, with prep for Nurtacular, with this, with that. And I've been doing practice rides at home, but as I think I've mentioned on the show, they have not been progressing in the way I'd like. And the longest ride I've done up to this, up to yesterday was a seven and a half mile ride. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So it's like, all right, well, it's a little bit longer than that. But so far is so good. I get pedal my way through the, the wind, get back to where the causeway connects back to the land on one side. And fortunately, there's enough trees and homes there on the coast that, breaks up the wind. And so I'm like, all right, this is much better and I'm back to back to where things are going. I get about three miles from Burlington. And I start getting a little bit of a stomach cramp. And it just hits me like, oh, yeah, it's about three o'clock. And the last time I
Starting point is 00:13:15 ate something was yogurt and a frozen, like in a reheated pancake at six o'clock this morning. So let's see. What is that? Nine hours? is, oh, man, maybe I should have eaten something, even just like an energy bar or something. And keep in mind, I also, there's no cage on this bike, so I'd nowhere to put my water bottle. Long story, but there was a miscommunication
Starting point is 00:13:38 in packing between Tina and I and there, and because of that, no jersey. I have no bike jersey, which is the other place I'd put a water bottle if I needed to. Right. So I'm like, all right, well, that's all right. I can make it back to Burlington, no problem.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And then get something to eat right away. right away as soon as I turn the bike in. So I get out there, you know, I'm making my way back towards Burlington. I get to Burlington and I go up the hill that's like, oh my God, I didn't realize this was such a massive hill back into Burlington. The ride along the coast, flat is a pancake. The ride from the coast into Burlington, the one goes right by the town hall, is this uphill thing. So I get up there and I'm like pushing and finally make it get to a flat road.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Okay, this is a lot easier pedaling street to street. Man, that bike place should be coming up any time now. Oh, no. And I'm starting to feel a little lightheaded at this point. You get dehydrated and underfed. A little dehydrated. I start looking around, all right. Well, and my watch just because it's doing the tracking for my right as well is dead.
Starting point is 00:14:50 my Apple Watch ran out of juice just as I was getting back to Burlington. Normally I'd look down and see my path and it would say, oh, turn left here. So I stop. I pull up my phone again, which has to be in my, you know, in my pocket because there's no place to put it otherwise. And I look and see, oh, okay, I've totally overshot it. That's all right. I can go back and go past it and it's actually one block over, which is why I didn't see it. So I go turn around, head back the other way.
Starting point is 00:15:22 No, I definitely should have passed it by now. And I'm getting more and more lightheaded. The edges of my screen are starting to turn gray. Like, you know, like I'm on my last half heart. Yeah. And now I call your attention to picture number two. I'll pull that up here. We get a little map image here.
Starting point is 00:15:43 This, so you can see the coast. This is the path I took through Burlington. Burlington. Oh, shit. The green dot is where I picked up the bike. And you can see all of this like going back over my line and then going around this other block way up there and then doing this little zigzag thing. And where the lines are darker. It's like I'm going back.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So you backtracked over all that? Backtracked over all that. Oh, my gosh, dude. Went an additional five miles of riding through Burlington. And like, okay. Okay, sure. Hope I find the bike store soon. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Finally get to it. I turn in the bike and I'm like, oh, crap. I've got to get back to the house before the lost luggage podcast. Because, you know, I've got, you know, three other people who are counting on me to be there on time. Sure. Okay, well, no problem. Plop in my phone. Boop, boop, boop, boop.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Path to the house. Great. and now, or the drive to the house. Now, boop, boop, any fast food places. Wendy's on the way. Perfect. Good, okay. Quick carb load on the way home.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Quick carb load. So I hit Wendy's. I get some well-needed water and a diet Coke and a junior bacon cheeseburger. Shove that down as I'm driving back. Get back to the house or, yeah, get back to the house with like five minutes, 10 minutes to spare. jump in the shower just to kind of wash off and then do the show. And like, all right, well, no problem.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I've got food. Good, good relaxing day. Boy, I can't wait to get into that hot tub. Get some hot water, some bubble jets on me. Get those muscles worked out. So I start a load of laundry, do the dishes, clean up the kitchen, and I head out to the hot tub, flip the thing open, the cover on it open
Starting point is 00:17:45 and I see a wasps nest that I don't know how I missed yesterday if it was there or if they just built it today but there's like a wasps nest and a wasp just sitting on it like what's up dude? Oh shit. What are you doing? What's what you got going on?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Now my folks showed me where a lot of things are stored in this house. You know, new garbage bags, where the recycling goes, where this is where that is. What they didn't show me was, oh yeah, we've got some bug spray. Because I am not getting in that hot tub.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And I can't even really close the hot tub back up because to do so puts me right back over where that wasp is. Yeah. And I'm in my swim trunks. I'm wearing nothing because everything else is in the washing machine. I've got a towel and I've got my swim trunks and every other piece of clothing I, own.
Starting point is 00:18:43 My lord, dude. He's in the washing machine, or at least on this side of the country. So I start going through the garage. I'm like, all right, where's, you know, there's got to be some bug spray. I look through, he's got a thousand cabinets in that thing. Finally get some bug spray. Spray the heck out of that thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You know, dows the nest. Yeah. I didn't get, amazingly enough, did not get like 18 wasps all flying out of it. It looked like this guy was just like, all right, guns. make a little house here for the queen. She's really going to love my work. Can't wait for her to move in. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He must have just started it because you were, because you would have noticed the day before. I would have noticed it yesterday. Yeah. I would think so. For sure. Yeah. I mean, bees of any kind, I noticed.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, exactly. So, got the thing dealt with and got some, some hot water and some bubble jets on my back and feeling a lot better today. Oh, good. What a run yesterday was for you.
Starting point is 00:19:45 That's really dumb. Oh, shit. Come on, Brian. Pack a freaking, you know, even a granola bar or something and, and, uh, uh, a water bottle. Maybe that's it. I just need to spend five bucks, get a really cheap SpongeBob backpack or something and put those things in there. I hate that feeling of, I've, I've done this before. I wrote in too hot of weather with not enough water.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You get the tunnel vision and you're, you're basically sweat and pee because that's, all you got left. Right. It's the worst feeling. It is the worst. Yeah. You just feel sick and just like, well, I'm glad you're all right.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You end up on the side of the road in a ditch somewhere. That would have sucked. I didn't end up on the side of the road. I mean, there was a point where I did have to get off the bike and go sit down on a little bench while I looked at the map to figure out where I'm supposed to go. But, um, man. This whole thing just gives me anxiety.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Amazing. All right. Well, you know what we- Lydia asks, does Tina have me on her find my app? Yep, she does. And it probably would have been a really funny thing for her to watch me going all over the town of Burlington trying to find a bike shop if she were to watch my little dot. Yeah, you got your extra five in just for funsies, just for the heck of it.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Exactly. Well, on that note, let's dive into something that's less dehydrating and more fun. And that is way more fun. I think more fun anyway. And that is this right here. Well, well, well, what do we have here? It's one Brian Dunaway who's ready to go. What's going on there, buddy, boy.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Well, well, well, look who it is. Scott Johnson and Brian Ibbott. That's right. Well, well, yeah, the Tunnel Vision, pals. Welcome to our show. Hey, it's good to have you here, man. We're going to play a game with you. We didn't have Monday, so I feel like we missed you a little bit, but now we're here.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, I played at home. Oh, you did. A little home version? Yeah. Yeah, just to my head. Okay. I lost. I lost oddly, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Oh, sorry to hear that. Was there a tiebreaker? Yeah, and it was no tiebreaker. I just lost, just every one of them. They got a 24-hour channel of Steve Harvey doing the feud on, what is it, Amazon's free thing. You go watch that, yeah. You can go watch that if you're bored out of your mind. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Brian, speaking of games, let's make it, let's make it sense of it. Can you tell us how it works and what we have to do? Yeah. It's time to. play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers they gave us. It's got it's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now at the end of the game, I'm going to look at all those points you guys earned. And the winner will actually win prizes for their listener contestant. And I've pulled contestants from our supporters of patreon.com slash TMS. Scott is playing for
Starting point is 00:22:39 Bob Finnegan Jr. The mailman, Cliff Clavon's mailman, I believe. That's right. I think he's Dill is, I think. Or maybe he moved. He moved. Ratsenberger moves somewhere else. Yeah. Okay. Someone else is delivering his mail. That's right. And Brian playing for Ryan
Starting point is 00:22:55 King Sella. Brian for Ryan. Yeah. King Sala. King Sala. I like it. For that King. Yeah, no kidding. Well, let's
Starting point is 00:23:05 let's go for it. Let's see if we can win somebody something. All right. Well, put your hands on your buzzards and give me your best answer to this. We asked 455 tadpoolers to name an event that should be in the Olympics. Scott.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Professional ESports, professional video game ESports. All right. Show me ESports. The number one answer. You know your audience. I think you for your question. Let me think about it for a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:37 That was not that long. I ever think about it. I hit the buzzer before I had an answer. That wasn't that. Starcraft was the most common answer and a couple of people. I mean, a lot of people just said e-sports, but if somebody was specific, Starcraft was the most common answer with the League of Legends.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Is East Sports not E-Hifference Sports? Or is it just East Sports? I think it's just E-sports. I think it's E-Copal S is probably. Or even sometimes you see lowercase E and then big S just because it looks cool. Yeah, it's probably exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I went with what, came up in numbers and just said copy and paste. Yeah, that's all good. I'm going to say, why don't we go with, let's do pillow fighting. You know, that's a pretty, that's a pretty low number for number one answer at a point, 25. So that's interesting. There's a lot. This one had a lot of answers.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And so I'm hoping, I'm going to see how you guys do. And if I need to give some hints around Strike 2, then I might do that. but show me professional pillow fighting, as Scott said. Oh, really? Oh, I'm sorry. I must have been talking to you. I didn't hear that. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Professional pillow fighting. Right. I will say, to help you guys out, is that, you know, it's the tadpool. They come up with jokey answers. The top 10 are things that I could see added to the Olympics, if that helps. Okay. That does help, actually. These are more realistic answers than the tad pool is typically.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I have a feeling I'm going to say some things. You're going to be like, Brian, that's already. Yeah. In the Olympics. Curling. I would have never guessed beforehand. I'm like curling? Come on. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:24 10 years ago. Like there have been a lot of things that have been demoed at the Olympics that either got, got added or didn't get added. And some of these even might have might be that. I don't know. I don't know the list of what's been. Yeah. I feel like any, I feel like Olympics needs to. I feel like, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:25:42 I feel like tennis people really hate pickleballers. So I'm going to go pickleball. Sure. I'm a little pickleball needs to be in the Olympics. Sure. Show me pickleball. Number two answer. Doubling.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Doubling Scott's score. My brother-in-law would be thrilled about that. He just put in a pickleball court and is obsessed with it. Obsessed. Have you played it at all? Yeah, we messed around out there. I'm terrible at it. And I don't fully get the rules.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's weird. I've played tennis and I've played ping pong. So basically I've played pickleball. It's made him super skinny and ripped very quickly. Yeah. He's lost a toned away. He's all like his gal toned up. He's our age and he's looking great.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And he swears, pickle ball, greatest sport ever made. It's the way to live. I'm like, all right. Whatever, man. I look forward. I feel like racquetball was like our thing back when we were growing up. It was. Everybody wanted to play a racquetball.
Starting point is 00:26:42 We're going to play record ball. Yeah. But it was such a, it was such a corporate thing, right? It's like, let's, let's take the last hour off the day and let's go play some racquetball. That's how that's how pickleball feels. It feels like, hey, we don't want to do some real sports. No, no.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Pickle ball is, hey, we're retired. Let's, we're 75 years old. Let's go play some pickleball. Right. Okay. So this is the one that we love playing. on the college campuses growing up. I'm not sure if it's still there.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh, yeah, Frisbee. Did they ever make it to an Olympic sports? I mean, because... I don't know. Got to pick your answer, not ask questions. Yeah, I'm going to say Frisbee. I could ask questions. Like, uh...
Starting point is 00:27:25 Did that ever make it to the Olympics? I can't ask that. Just like throwing a frisbee back and forth, or is there anything specific? Frisbee ball. I don't know. What is it? Something specific. You heard him.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You heard him. You heard him. Frisbee ball. Frisbee throwing. I know where you're going. Oh, I'm going to give you disc golf. Oh, man. That's what they call it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That's right. Yeah. Ultimate Frisbee disc golf, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, catch is like, catch is going to be added to the Olympics if you just say throw it in a frisbee. But I know, I know where you're going. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:59 How about some, I was always sad they didn't add this to the winter Olympics in, oh my gosh. Well, I'm blanking on the name of Epic's game. How about some hacky sack? It was in the summer thing. Summer games, yeah. Why not bring it to the Olympics? Show me. Hackysack.
Starting point is 00:28:21 That was a long, that was a long wait. Did anyone say hacky sack? A little surprised that was not there, yeah. That might be showing our age a little bit. I don't think the kids are into that. Yeah, nope, I'm not saying. Oh, hacky sack. One person said hacky sack.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I was trying to think of, I was trying to think of the, well, I was trying to think of the tad pool because, you know, Most of them are our age, right? Yeah. I think we got a heavy millennial deal. Okay, heavy millennials. Yeah, there are, we got a lot of heavy millennials. Heavy millennials.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Rude. Rude. All right, what do you got? It's your turn. Oh, it's my turn. You got a buzz. Yeah. That's how that works. I know what I really want to be on there, but ain't going to be there.
Starting point is 00:29:06 What do you really want? Tell me what you want, what you really, really want. really, really won't. I would love to see actual, like, they built a little fake city for this. I'd like to see actual, like, parkour, competitive parkour. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah. It would be cool. Like a judged. I mean, they do break dancing, and that was hilarious this last time around, right? So, I mean, why not? Why the heck not? Poor, poor Raygun.
Starting point is 00:29:30 All right, show me, parkour. Oh, good points. Look at that right ahead of me. One point. Oh, I'll be honest. I'm a little shocked. I thought it wouldn't be there. Maybe I should do more things that I like.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Maybe you should. Do more things that you like. Oh, gosh, you guys. Laser tag. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. It's called laser tag, right? Yeah, yeah, Lord, laser tag.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah. Show me laser tag. Oh, really? No laser tag. And I don't think anybody said it, surprisingly. That's another one that feels. like that's a great that is a great suggestion. Yeah. Especially you get your your,
Starting point is 00:30:16 your, um, uh, American gladiators style. Yeah. That would need every, everything in American gladiators needs to be in the Olympics. I mean, Olympic sport. At least the big, like the big Q-tip fight they do. That would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But that made me think when you said, when you said, um, laser tag, that's out of, of, you know, out of fashion. How about, how about some paintball Olympic style? How about that? That's good. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 All right. Show me paintball. Oh, I'm surprised for you, dude. Yeah. That's crazy. Surprised too. That'd be another good one because it'd be very easy to see who's winning paintball. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You know, the colors. So, no, no cheating. Yeah. How about, um, right. they already do kickboxing, right? I don't know if that's true. I brought it up just playing off of the sport of the future thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Once again, it's got, you know, whatever the taboole said. Yeah. All right. The thing from, this is out there. Maybe I'm wrong. Probably wrong. The thing from Squid Game where the ladies and they'll run a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It's like stop or what a free red light green light thing they do in that. Sure. That except no deaths, but that. Of course, yes. All right. Show me red light green light. Oh, man. Potatoes.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Gosh, dang it. I'll leave if that got more people saying it, though, than paintball. Funny enough. Wow. Yeah, a couple people did say red light green light. All right. All right. I'm only one point behind.
Starting point is 00:32:06 So any of these crappy answers would actually. probably work sure yeah um oh man um all right let me you know what i'm behind's my last last strike i'm going to go to the chat room oh i see how you are hey this is way i always play i know i never if i'm down to my last strike and i'm losing i'm calling a friend i i say it's perfectly they don't know what's they don't know what's number one so they're i mean they can't they can't give me the answer but i can use the common knowledge of these people. Ooh, dodge ball or
Starting point is 00:32:45 kickball. Ooh, those are really good. I'm seeing a lot of people saying those. Dodgeball's good. Yeah, I'm going to have to say dodge ball. I think that's a good answer. Yeah. Like the family always does off to the side. Good answer. Good answer. Let's see. Dogeball on there. Yeah. Number eight answer.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You bastard. Take that. You've won now. Yeah. You want to take that. You got four answers, five answers left on the board. want to get all right then I'm just going to go mud wrestling I feel like you've been holding that one okay just basically like let's let's well that was my my options were my options
Starting point is 00:33:22 were check the chat room or say mud wrestling I think I made the right choice I do too I like it yeah all right show me mud wrestling please do oh man no mud wrestling let's go through your rest of your answers here I'm sure this was demoed at some point
Starting point is 00:33:39 bowling is Is bowling not in Olympics? I thought it was too. Why did I think of that? It was probably demoed, maybe even made it in a year or two because it does feel like
Starting point is 00:33:52 bowling would be a good Yeah, bowling some skill-based play there, man. It's like curling, but not on ice. Wild. This one had a lot of, I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:04 14 people said it in one form or another. Competitive eating, your Joey Chestnut. Hot dog competition. We have news about that guy if we ever get to the news. It's true, yeah. I guess they don't want a sport where you're probably going to vomit. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's anybody to, I mean, it just seems like a, it just seems like such a juxtaposed audience, right? Because, I mean, people watch the Olympias are kind of like, hoity floydie. And then people who watch eating competitions are like. Very different audience. Yeah. Yeah. Voidy floydie floydie. Hoydy floydie.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Boity, Floydy, Floyd. I'll make up some words now. Yeah. Sure. Spelling bee. At the Olympics. Spelling bee, do it. No, do it.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Spelling bee. I like that. 9 of 12 says, Boiling was once done as a demo in 1988. Did not get approved. Did not catch on. Number five, Darts.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Darts. Once again, I thought it was in the Olympics. Right. It's like, all right, give me three sports that you can do while drinking a beer.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah, I like those. Eating darts and bowling. All of those have beer. Show me number six. Football, American-style football. So it is kind of funny that, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:22 there aren't any American football. That probably, yeah, I was going to say, probably another one that got demo. Probably, yeah, I remember a demo of that,
Starting point is 00:35:30 but I don't remember if it, I don't think it's stuck at all. I get, yeah, that is such a, boy, but that is such a setup. I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:36 you really had to, that takes a lot. that's just a lot. That's not like darts. Can we put darts in here? Sure. What's you got to board? Right.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But this you need a big field for with the stripes and all that stuff. It's like, yeah, all right. It makes sense. Yeah. Hello Kitty Pez. Flag football is going to be in the next Olympics. So there will be a form of American football. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:35:56 1932, Los Angeles and 1904 St. Louis games both had demo. Both demoed American football, but never took off. That's back in the leather helmet days, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, 2028's getting the flag back, though. Flag football. Oh, really? Okay. Look forward to that, L.A. Excellent. The prize will be a red on air light. Number 10. Shit, really. Baseball. Who said it? I didn't hear it. I felt bad. I read Hello Kitty's thing on, on air and said, okay, so flag football, so people will get, you know, a form of American football. You just did it too. Damn it. I just said it. I hate those. Yeah. I don't even have a good plausible excuse for missing that one.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Except I was looking up the history, I guess. Right. Baseball, your number 10 answer, again, probably one that got demoed and just didn't get accepted. But it feels like that's, that feels like it's got the most likely chance. And then finally, your bonus one is roller derby. That was one of those I was wanting to do as well, roller derby. Yeah. Herbie would have been good.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah. That's a future sport, basically. It really is. Yeah. It is. Because future sport is basically. Well, you throw a ball or something in there and it's basically, I guess they died in that, but. It was the same.
Starting point is 00:37:08 It was like go around a rink and skates. Try to kill the guy that played Superman one time and now is kind of an ass. Can't think of his name. Anyway. Just a few of the other ones. We got our start ELR. What? Dean Kane.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, we did a lot of Dean Kane stuff back in the L. It is. That's true. But he's turned into something weird. He's kind of been, yeah, exactly. Chess, Cornhole, cricket, jousting, juggling, chess, chess, which is where you alternate playing chess and then boxing. that is great
Starting point is 00:37:38 I love it Jiu-Jitsu, lacrosse, skateboarding, billiards, Cabratas, Hema, which is historical European martial arts,
Starting point is 00:37:47 tug of war, which was absolutely an Olympic sport for a while. I was to say that was. They pulled it. Armrested, cross-throwing,
Starting point is 00:37:56 ballroom dancing, beer pong, board gaming, and then dog agility. We'll just wrap it there. Dog agility. Dog agility. Let dogs play the Olympic
Starting point is 00:38:06 too. Yeah, let them have their puppy bowl and eat it too or something. Uh, well, good stuff. Hey, uh, done away. Guess what? That means you won for your, your guy. Brian will now tell us what they won. Ryan, you're getting a copy of Mordheim, City of the Damned and Shadow's Awakening. Excellent games, both. Uh, from courtesy of Sun Bunn. But, uh, boy, Bob Finnegan Jr., you're getting something pretty cool too. You're getting this war of mine and the stories season past D.L.C. It goes along with it. So good package for both of our players. Yeah, this war of mine, fantastic management game. A very depressing story behind it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Not the making of it, but the actual game world is hideously depressing, but it's a fantastic game. It's very, very good. And what you call it again? I bet you said it was a good package, just like when you're riding your bike. That's right. It's a good package. It's an oiled up chode package. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Well, well done, everybody. You'll get those in your private messages over on Patreon here shortly after the show. and Brian Dunaway, you and I are meeting up today at 4 p.m. for play retro. And then right after that, a little watch retro. Get your retro on tonight, hardcore, baby. We're going to play some ratchet and clank. No, the first one from 2002. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Can you believe that's more than 20 years old? It's good. It's really great game. The guns in there, still very memorable stuff. And I love the ad campaign they had for it. It was really inventive stuff at the time. We'll talk about that today. Our first PS2 title that we've talked about on the show.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, very excited. Yeah. Can't wait. A day of firsts. Done away. In the meantime, kiss our butts. All right, he's out. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You heard that. Now you're going to hear this. You're going to hear this now. Where is it? Isn't technology wonderful? Oh, guys, let me tell you something. I say it every week. It can be.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But only when Tom Merritt is involved, who is also in some kind of hotel somewhere, I think in Austin. Oh, that's right. It's BTS Week. Yeah, or something. Oh, he froze. Oh, he's there. I don't hear him.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Oh, now I hear you. Now I hear you. Now you're saying words. Hello, Tom Mara. How are you? I am in Las Vegas. Oh, what do you do in Vegas? What's going on? We're here to see BTS. That's a tech conference short for... Big tech stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, big tech stuff. That's great. No, you're there to see the band. Is that how you write it off? Is it a business script? Business tech stuff. There you go. Oh, that's great. Have you already seen them?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Or is this an up to me? Yes, we have. Yeah. How are you feeling in the aftermath of it all? Yeah, no, they put on an excellent show. And in fact, in a way, we got to attend the American Music Awards because the opening of the show we saw was then used as the opening of the American Music Awards. Oh, really? Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Because they had the show and they had to accept that award. They did it there. Right. That's cool. They just excerpted part of their concert from the night before and put. it on to the top of the American Music Awards. Oh, man. I love an excerpted section, segment.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I love, by the way, the shot of Tom with a pair of naked legs coming out of his neck. Yeah, look at that. Oh, no, I think it was far better when we didn't know if there was actually clothed, a clothing woman behind you. I mean, it is Vegas. You never know. It is Vegas. Yeah. I'm going to say that's, uh, is that
Starting point is 00:41:26 hold on. I'm going to guess that is the Rio. No. I don't know what you're sticking. I guess. I want to guess. I want to guess. You're in the Paris.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Oh, good guess with the legs. Neither of you are correct. Damn it. Where are you then? The Mandalay Bay. Oh, Mandalay Bay. I like Mandalay Bay. They got that weird fish life thing you can go watch.
Starting point is 00:41:54 An aquarium? Weird fish life thing. No one else has it. You know, and it's almost like they have a word for that sort of thing. They should come up with a word. Yeah, they really ought to. Well, I'm really glad that you're taking time to stream into this today and take this question. Your tech question of the week, Tom, Merritt.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Here's how it goes. It's from someone named George. And George says, Dear Tom, if he'll have me, that's what he wrote. Oh, and I will, George. Oh, good. He says, I was wondering if there was any real difference between the various LLMs, the large language models. They all claim to do the same stuff, but I have to think I would be better off with something that was more tuned to the work I do, which is systems analytics for a large corporation,
Starting point is 00:42:39 and parentheses he said, I wish I could say more. Sounds like it's top secret stuff. Anyway, are there clear differences between, say, Gemini, chat, GPT, Claude, etc. Love the segment. George. So what do you tell George on this front? I mean, the short answer is, yes, there are clear differences. However, they may not matter as much in the kind of situation you're talking about as the implementation.
Starting point is 00:43:04 of them. And the other thing is these models are evolving so fast that what I say today won't be true a month from now because they keep improving and putting out new models and getting better at this and getting better at that. Gemini is generally considered to be the best at context. It has a huge context window. So you can put a lot of really complicated things in there and it'll be able to remember everything you asked it.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Claude is considered very good at logic. If you've got very logical problems, it can follow them step by step. It's also, I think partly because of that very good at writing and that sort of thing. And ChatsyPT, hands down and Codex, you know, which goes with it, is the coding giant. Claude very good at coding as well in a different way, but ChatsyPT very good at like sandbox coding and all that sort of thing. But really, it kind of depends on how you. you integrate it into your enterprise. And that's why I'd throw in something like retrieval augmented generation or RAG.
Starting point is 00:44:10 That is going to make a bigger difference than which model, honestly. Because what you do with RAG is you say, I want it to use my data, right? If you're doing analytics, you want it to use your data. Go take my data, retrieve it, and then implement it in your answers. there's a lot that's way more complicated than that way beyond my pay grade and explaining it but from from what I've read and what I've seen out there that kind of thing is going to make a big difference especially when you talk about like I want something tuned to my work you're going to be able to take any of these models and do a rag implementation and have
Starting point is 00:44:50 it tuned specifically to your work so so look up that look up R-A-G and and then you can kind of just go with whatever one fits best in your workplace. If you're Google Cloud users, Google Workspace users, you might just want to go to Gemini, right? Because it's already fitting into your whole work system. And that's going to outweigh any of the other considerations on which ones they're different, especially because they keep evolving and keep getting better at all these other things. Large language models are very, very much generalists, too.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Like what they're good at is, I don't, I mean, some of the companies want to tell you it's by design. And I think by design, they're trying to nudge them in certain ways. But a lot of this stuff is just an emergent property of the way the algorithm works. Is the Google context window you referenced? Is that because of their many, many decades of search and just all of that context feeds in somehow? How does that work? I don't know how much that plays into it. I mean, I think those are two different things is what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Context window is like how many tokens it can handle at once. and they just have a really big window. But that's an arms race. You know, the context window is just a matter of priority and development. But I think you hit on something that's not necessarily part of the context window, but it is an advantage of Google, is that they've been able to train on their own search data, which gives them a really good advantage in being able to access certain kinds,
Starting point is 00:46:19 synthesize certain kinds of data. But I don't know that that's a determinative or definitive advantage to them. It certainly means that when you do Google search, you get really good search result answers out of AI mode. Interesting. So when one of them says, we have the best image model or the other one says no one codes like we do, they're all aiming for that generalist crown that you're talking about. Be good at all the things that these things are capable. Yeah, that's a way to position yourself in the marketing.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's not a lie, but it more reveals what they think is a better target market for them. and then it is any kind of definitive lead, again, because these things are evolving so fast. And just in coding, right? Like OpenAI has the reputation of being great at coding, and it is because of codex and all of that. But Claude is also ahead of them in certain kinds of coding, a certain kind of implementations of coding as well. And that's just a horse race that keeps going. Now, I know this is not tied to this so much, but I'm just curious about it. I've found that searching, if you're using an LLM as kind of a search, like I may say,
Starting point is 00:47:33 I need to know the top ranked retro games for me and Dunnoy to cover on Play Retro that came out in the year, 1991 platform and whatever, I'm kind of doing a search, right? I'm not doing a, I'm not asking it to do logic or anything else. I'm just saying, go find the stuff. do you think Google and Gemini are best positioned in the market to take advantage of the fact that they are a search company at their founding and that having this hooked into that as integrated as possible will give them a clear advantage over. Although I guess the others are just searching Google too.
Starting point is 00:48:12 So I don't know what advantage it gives them. But do you think that gives? The others are also indexing the web themselves and creating their own databases. So this is getting away from George's question. But yes, I think Google has an advantage. I don't know if I'd call it a definitive advantage, but they're a little ahead because they've been doing search. And people think of them when they think of search, right?
Starting point is 00:48:37 So I have found that when I want to just find a list like that, that Gemini gives me a really solid answer that I don't have a whole lot of doubts about right off the bat. But I also am going to Google to search. Right. So I don't always go and like put the same exact search in chat, GPT, and then Claude and then perplexity and try it out. And we should throw perplexity into the conversation if we're talking about search because they're very good at that sort of thing. And I know Jason Howell's a big user of them and says, you know, a lot of times they feel like they're giving him better answers than Google. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. I hadn't even heard of until you mentioned it. So that's. Yeah. Perplexity has a, they have a, I think they have a market, marketing issue, or just no one's heard of them. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 An awareness issue. Yeah. All it will take is one. Like I feel like hardly anybody talked about Claude until Claude became at various points. There were some, you know, there were controversial stories that involved. Right. So they got in the mainstream news. And it was like, what is this claw?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah. It was like example of there's no such thing as bad publicity in their case because now they're, now everyone talks about Claude. Yeah. Now they don't have enough compute to serve all of the people who want to use Claude. Yeah. There you go. Oops. Oops.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'm sure they'll talk some poor town. Utah and the... Well, they signed a deal with X, X-A-I to use Colossus. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Getting in bed with the queen himself. I don't know what that means. All right. Hey, Tom Merritt. He's there all week for the big tech systems show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 There's seven major points of the big tech systems show. Yes. That's right. And if you're Tom's accountant, no R-R-M shortage here. No.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Ariram. Very nice. Very nice indeed. Well, I'm glad you're having a good time, though. And I wish you nothing but safe travels on your way home. Of course, we'll see Tom here in Salt Lake City for Nerdtacular coming up pretty quick here. On the 11th is when people first see them. And then who knows when you'll last see you.
Starting point is 00:50:40 We're doing the great debate, tech versus science. Oh, yeah. We'll finally decide which one wins. Yeah. I bet you, I'll bet you, it'd be fun if it was a draw. And then me and Dr. Nicky are going to arm wrestle. Yeah. Then headbutt.
Starting point is 00:50:55 You got a headbut like her, like the goats. Yeah, I'm not headbutt with her. She knows what it works. She knows exactly. She knows exactly where and how it hits you. Yep. Yeah, I'll lose that really fast. Is there anything else going on?
Starting point is 00:51:07 You'd like folks to know about in the meantime? Yeah. If you're looking for something to do after Danticle at the end of the month, check out the Wizard Academy. Just look up the Wizard Academy. It's in Austin, Texas. It's a nonprofit business education. resource. Brian Brushwood, myself, Justin Robert Young, and Andrew Heaton all teaching a class together
Starting point is 00:51:28 at the end of the month. I think it's June 23rd, 24th. And you get like all-inclusive, like a place to stay at their little retreat. You get food and drink included and get to hang out and talk about doing weird creative stuff for a couple of days. So you can check that out at wizard academy.org. Very cool. The building is amazing. It is a place. A castle with a secret whiskey vault and a library with one of the, you know, the shelves turns into a door. Oh, very much like the Magic Castle in L.A. Yes, yes. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Look at that thing. Anyway, yeah, and you guys are right here. Upcoming classes. June, sorry, 2026 June. Do your weird thing, it's called. That's cool. I want to see Tom do a weird thing. Yeah, he will.
Starting point is 00:52:14 His own, though, not somebody else's weird thing. No, no, just Tom's. Yeah. Well, that sounds awesome. Do check that out if you are in the neighborhood. for that as well. Tom Merritt, always good to talk to you. Tell Eileen, we think the world of her. And may all your, may all your BTSs be, I don't know, not in Army service and with long delays. Right? Isn't that the deal with them? They're always... Yeah, they just...
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah, but Army is also the name of the fandom. So it's confusing. Military service. There you go. They're in service of the Army now, but it was the military before. That's right. Very good. Yeah. See, look at me. I'm a true K-pop. fan. Tom Merritt, everybody, watch him as he goes. All right,
Starting point is 00:52:54 he's out of here. That was the end of that. Hey, Brian. Yes, sir. I've been thinking about your no food 25 mile ride. It was just dumb.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Just dumb. Like, let's go nearly 10 hours without eating. And all I ate for breakfast was, like I said, two re-microwaved, reheated pancakes
Starting point is 00:53:15 and a thing of yogurt. No protein. No real protein, really for them. No, and for that kind of right. That's what you need. You need car bloat.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You need all that stuff. I was dumb. I feel you, is what I'm saying. Yeah. I have felt those feelings. And I have sympathy pain for you right now. But you'll be fine today, right? What are you doing today?
Starting point is 00:53:36 You're riding a day or no? No, no. I'm sore today. Tomorrow, yes, it'll be tomorrow on the peloton downstairs. And then the weekend, I'll rent a bike again. And maybe I'll do the same ride because I really, I mean, I'm sure going south along Lee Shemplain is beautiful, but it'd be really hard to compete with how how beautiful the ride up north was. It was just really, really nice.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah, that picture on. Yeah. That's beautiful. All right. Here is a question. Oh, yeah, we got an email. I'm going to read. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I'm going to do at least one of these. This is about the jugs of pee. Alex Kay wrote in. It says, hi, I was just curious about your opinion about the mass firings at Disney and April. I'm replacing artists with AI. for me, this is inhuman greed and is enough to turn my back on Disney. I don't really want to hear anyone talk much about.
Starting point is 00:54:26 He doesn't really hear anyone talk about. Oh, doesn't hear anyone talk much about it with a lot of people still looking forward to seeing Spider-Man and the Avengers Doomsday like nothing has happened. Scott, as an artist yourself, how does this make you feel? Love the show, Alex. Well, Alex, I did some digging. Yeah, as did I.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And I almost replied to an email directly. Instead, I thought, why don't I just read this on the show? Yeah. So here's what I was going to send you, and I'll read exactly the email I was going to send you. And it was this. Hey, Alex, thanks for the note. The situation is pretty nuanced. The April layoffs were primarily a massive long-planned corporate restructuring aimed at consolidating Disney's marketing and operations.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That said, the industry is definitely using AI to automate the grunt work of production, which is making people understandably anxious about job security and the value of human artists. It's a messy mix of corporate downsizing and technological transition, but it's not quite as simple as a direct artist for AI swap. That's what I would have told him. And that is the nuance of the thing. It's not as simple as you artists, get out. Exactly. And everywhere I looked, you know, the original Guardian article, the variety article that nailed it down to like, okay, 15 people from Marvel's visual division got laid off. Like 200 people from their ABC News and TV division and TV division. And Washington Post, 100, you know, 100 people from that and, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But there's nowhere that says they're actually replacing any of them with AI. That came from Evangeline Lilly talking about it in an Instagram post with nothing. Nothing was cited. But she does have a friend at Disney or who was at Disney, one of the people who got laid off. And so understandably, she wants to support him and defend his role. but she kind of made the assumption that they're firing him and replacing with AI. Here's the other thing. Marvel, for a while, was putting out three movies a year, four movies a year,
Starting point is 00:56:31 and a bunch of TV stuff. They're down to like one or two movies and a couple TV things, so far less. So it kind of makes sense that they'd have to downscale this. Yeah, I think they needed to, it's like, this is true in the gaming business too. There are a few companies that this was inevitable. Their output got to a point where they over swung during the pandemic, especially. We're still having effects from that.
Starting point is 00:56:57 This is not to excuse any mega corporation for making any heartless decisions about losing people. When people do that, absolutely. It's, you know, it's sad and it should be. I just don't think it's all AI related. In fact, if anything, it's still your corporate greed position is 100% correct. these companies will still post record profits and yet dump good people this is this is the always the path though
Starting point is 00:57:23 I think the connection to AI is is a little tenuous in this particular case but some good points but it's not as simple as that as basically what it comes down to Nick from Western Massachusetts sent us a phone call 31 seconds here it is
Starting point is 00:57:38 Hey Scott and Brian Nick here from Western Massachusetts quick pop quiz both of you. Everyone's favorite actor, Billy Cruttup, had a small lesser-known job when he first got into the acting business. Do either of you know what it was? In any event, I'll leave you with this. Sure, gas might be insanely expensive, but the cost of a new Warhammer 40K model for Scott or some new 3D printer parts for Brian is priceless. Thanks, guys. Love the show. I don't, he didn't tell us the answer to the credit thing. No. No. So I'm going to find out what did Billy Fredup do these four?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Like what was his first gig in acting? Yeah. Because he said it was his first thing, like for a small thing you did in acting, right? Yeah. You're right. So it looks like, let's see, hold on, where is that here? What was his first foray into acting or Hollywood or? Wow, it sounds like you're using AI, Scott.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Maybe it is. It's Google. Let's see what it says. Okay, here we go. Professional debut. He was on stage. Oh, really like a Tony, like a, or like a musical or. Yeah, some kind of musical thing.
Starting point is 00:58:59 It says this is his breakthrough. Outstanding debut of an actor in the Critics Circle Award, something, something. And then the film, The Grind or Grind in 1997. It was filmed in 94, though. I don't see anything. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, I don't see anything in here where it's like, can you believe his first thing? Right, like, exactly. So let's see. Sleepers in 96. It's funny because even his IDB profile, yeah, inventing the Abbots. He was in. Everyone says, I love you. Sleepers. The rate says blue wiener model. I could see that. Well, yeah, exactly. Sure. That's how they, that's how they hired him from Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah, I mean, almost famous was the first thing I remember him in, and that was hardly a small, small deal. No. Neither was the Blue Wiener. It's not small enough. I never did here. I know he put performance captured for that character. I don't know if that meant his whole body was performed,
Starting point is 00:59:59 like if it was his actual crotch that we. Yeah, right. If like they, well, would they put a mocap dot on there too? Yeah. He did say acting gig, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that did. Or something that was like early in his acting.
Starting point is 01:00:12 career or something like that. Yeah, yeah. And there's other things in here like, okay, because of the delay of the grind, the 94 movie critics largely discovered him through his 96 roles and sleepers. Woody Allen's everyone says, I love you. Yeah, remember that one? Brad Pitt, De Niro.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Oh, yeah. Crime deal. Crime drama deal. Anyway, well, there you go. I have no idea. Oh, P. Crum, sorry, P.Crum 73 says, voice behind the iconic MasterCard priceless advertising campaign.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Oh, really? Okay. Oh, the one that was like, right, it would say, you know, a bunch of things that would list off all the things you're buying and then having the peace of mind of being in a foreign country and blah, blah, blah, priceless. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Okay, now that I add that to the search, it gives me a thing that says, oh, yes, he did that for many years, 1998 to 2005. Okay. The problem is it's not really the first thing because he was in that 94 movie. So I think we screwed up his question.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Oh, did he, he did say priceless in his message. Okay. Good. Thank you, Joe Guy. I didn't catch that. But yeah, he did, didn't he. Oh, that was the hint. That was the hint.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He gave us a little hint there. Durp. Oh. Yeah. Good thing that wasn't for feud. We had won nothing for nobody. Holy shit. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:34 All right. Well, done. Yeah, I didn't catch him that he said that. I just thought he was making a joke. And then we thought of. so many things after his call that it just woofed from my mind. Right, right past my synapses. I didn't get it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Anyway, thank you for that call. Nick and Western Mass. Thank you, Alex Kay, and you guys are awesome for contacting us. If you want to do that, go to the website, froggants.com slash TMS. You'll find all the ways to do it. A reminder tonight, play retro and watch retro starts at 4 p.m. There's also a brand new lost luggage up today. There is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:05 About episode four, where we get a little bit more about, Jack and a white rabbit. Jack and the white rabbit. Wait, that sounded wrong. Don't jack the white. Don't jack the white rabbit. No, no, no. One pill makes you watcher, and one pill makes you small.
Starting point is 01:02:27 The one. That song is so weird. It gives you doesn't do anything at all. Such a weird song. I love it, though. Yeah. That is it. Speaking of weird songs, not, I don't know if it'll be weird,
Starting point is 01:02:38 but Brian has one. Going to play one? No, it's very much not weird. Bob Decker wrote in and said, my son Robert is going to turn 30 on May 30th. By the way, you guys came in. You understood the assignment. Great job.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You did give me enough material to be able to fill out those folders. Scott talked about yesterday. So thank you for that. He says, my son Robert is going to turn 30 on May 30th. He's been a pooler since the beginning, thanks to dad, driving him around listening to TMS and FilmSack. He has grown into a fine young man, make us feel old. and his mother and I are very proud of him.
Starting point is 01:03:11 We love you, buddy. Have a great birthday and long live and prosper. May the force be with you, fart gas and other geeky things. Love it. Yeah. But that is funny. Like started out with his dad driving him to high school or something and now he's 30. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:03:27 That part I don't like. Because we're all so effing old now. Yeah, totally. I love it. Whatever. Anyway, wanted to hear a cover of the Beach Boys specifically, or no, you see, he just said song and choice by me. I decided to choose a recent cover I'd gotten by Stephanie McKeehan of, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:52 my favorite and probably everybody's favorite, a lot of people's favorite, beach boy's song, God only knows, such a, such a fantastic song. And this version, Stephanie McKeon from her EP, Here I Go. I may not always love you But long as there are stars above you You never need to doubt it I'll make you so sure about what I'd be without you If you should ever leave me
Starting point is 01:04:36 Life would still go on believe It's shown nothing to me should ever leave me though life would still go on believe nothing to me good one living do me I'd be yeah god thanks for listening
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