The Morning Stream - TMS 3027: Chris Browne's Final Form

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

Twist a Testicle. Are you HAPPY? Fletcher's Special Sauce. For a hundred bucks you can buy things that cost a hundred dollars! Supergirl: Fury Road. The Satanic Golden Girls. Got a Burning Sensation from Nevada. Incidents of Towers and Iron. Tina was born in the darkness. It's the little moustache what does it! DCsplaining. Heartbreak Feels Good When You Won't Shut Up. Ask Your Doctor is Flipadapazeepatoid is right for you. Floss Rage with Wendi. All Sweaty Corn and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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For a hundred bucks, you can buy things that cost a hundred bucks. Supergirl Fury Road. The satanic golden girls. Got a burning sensation from Nevada. Incidents of towers and iron. Tina was born in the darkness. It's the little mustache. What does it? D.C. Spla-Splaining.

Heartbreak feels good when you won't shut up. Ask your doctor if flippa-depa-zepetoid was right, is white blitha. Ask your doctor if flip-a-depa-zepetoid is right for you. Floss Rage with Wendy. All sweaty corn and more on this episode of the morning stream. There are hundreds of different uses for calculators at a surprising variety of specially designed calculators to do certain jobs. No doubt you'll want a good warranty so that if your calculator goes bad, you can send it back and get it repaired rapidly and

economically. So don't become too dependent on your calculator. Why? You know why. Hello everyone. Welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for Thursday, June 25th, 2026. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibbott. Hello, it is. It just reminded me, too, that tomorrow, when I'm gone again, but it'll be play date,

is going to be a 2626. And I'm going to miss it, Scott. I'm going to miss the 5th, 26, 26, or I'm sorry, the 6th, 26th, 26 of the year. You're going to wait until next month. Yep. Yep. I'll have to just enjoy, well, June 20, or July. 26 is going to be a Sunday. Oh, fate, why are you so cruel? Yeah, nothing but cruelty out of this

particular fate. Yeah, you'll be driving, I guess, during the playday, right? I will be driving, or riding is more, more accurate. Oh, okay. When you're actually driving. We're taking George's vehicle. Oh, you're probably driving. He's driving. He's driving. He's driving. Yeah, he's got a, like, you're not riding your bike from Colorado. Oh, good Lord, no. I don't know why I even let the thought enter my head. Oh, my God. No, it's not the MS 700. No, we're taking, because they've got like a Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid or something,

and so we're going to take advantage of the fun of that. Yeah, that'll get you there. Seven passengers, those things. We've got lots of room in there. Yeah, really seven. Yeah, I think so. I think that's one of those larger capacity family deals. interesting

deals. You might be able to lay out a little bit, pull out your switch. Right. Tell Aunt Barb to shut up up there. Just kidding. She was so great at the event, by the way.

I love talking about it. She's fantastic. They both are. George was great up there and helping me out and really quickly writing a second tiebreaker on the fly in case I needed it.

Yep, that was great. He was an unsung hero. Also, the real Chris Brown just absolutely killed it. I mean, look, there's no shade on Fletcher because I think Fletcher's very good of being ref. Sure, sure, absolutely.

Some special sauce with Chris Brown. Yeah, Chris Brown, he, you know, when I said, boy, I created a monster, that was an exaggeration. Like his, the power went right to his head. Oh, yeah. He used it well. He used it, you know,

responsibly. But, I mean, you know, flagging Bobby for double dipping. flagging me for too difficult to question at one point. Come on now. And he really got right to it. You know what I mean? Like there was no easing in.

There was no like, oh, here are the early stages of Chris Brown being a ref. No, no, no. We went full evolution. He went straight from Pikachu to whatever Pikachu evolves into. Right. Yeah, it was like to start you or whatever. I can't remember with Pikachu.

I think Pikachu evolves from Pichu, but I think Pikachu is its final. Is it final? Okay. No, no, no, write you,

right you. Oh, right, is your, yeah, right. All right. You never know

what these things. How can I forget, right you? No, he even disagreed, initially, well, he even disagreed

with my ruling on something because I had, I had been a stickler with you and, uh, you called it origins,

Origins Wolverine, instead of X-Men Origins Wolverine. I didn't give you points for that. You still ended up getting it because you, you got enough of the other huge Actman things. But when Randy started belting out Star Trek titles and not including the word Star Trek,

I was like, I mean, I can't, I can't ding Scott for this and not ding Randy because it's only fair. Right. But I was overruled by the judge. I was overruled. And in hindsight, you know, there may have been some confusion about the way the question was written. I never looked back actually to see how that question, how I read it.

Oh, from the, yeah, the video, I'm supposed to be up yesterday. I got a little busy, but I'll send it. I'll put it up today, everybody. Don't worry. You'll be able to see this whole debauchery that we did. Here's the way that's, here's the way that question's phrased. In the Star Trek film franchise, there have been 12 theatrically released movies that were not called Star Trek. How many of them can you name?

And y'all are nerds. I expect full titles. Yeah, I feel like that should have been our cue to do full titles. Yeah. In fact, that's a hint that these are going to be, that the Star Trek part is part and parcel. like you have to remember to say it. Yeah, yeah. I think you were in the right there.

It was more, you know, it was more that I didn't want him just to go, the wrath of con, the search for Spock, the Void Home. I wanted to make sure he got numbers. But, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Well, Star Trek, what are you going to do? Anyway, what can you do? It came out fine.

Amy and her team won handily. So I'm glad it didn't come down to like a, you know, five point difference on that one question. Oh, yeah, there was no. let the record state. There would have no question as to one that final game. This guy's freaking rocked it. She's man.

She did great. Her team did great with the clues for for movie poster taboo, but Amy was on a wavelength with them. And like getting three of them, I think, with one, just one clue. I think it was three, at least two, maybe three. That was crazy.

Space, gravity. What? How did you do that? There's so many movies about space. Oh my gosh. That was amazing. I would have said, Push.

Clooney. By Sapphire. Yeah. By Sapphire. Guys, I hate it. The smoke is bad right now. We got a couple of burners that are real gnarly and one in particular in Nevada that's blowing over on top of us. And then, so thanks, Nevada.

You and your free love and you're gambling. That's finally paying off for you in the form of smoke. That's what it is. It's the prostitution is what's causing the fire and the flames. That's what gets you every time. But they, that's all blown over here. We have our own fires blowing on ourselves.

We have a nasty one in Eureka, this town that's not too terribly far, but it basically, it's kind of green and brown compared to the white smoke coming out of Nevada. So it's like we're sending over some nasty ass freaking looking fart your direction. So it's like here, Colorado have some of this.

And it looks like it's reached as far as like, parts of Kansas, crazy. Anyway, yeah, I've had about enough. So last night, I was thinking to myself, saying, self, aren't you tired of this? And myself replied, yes. A little schizophrenic moment I had with myself. It was fantastic.

And good thing Wendy's on today. So anyway, that's going on. And then the clouds, suddenly the wind picks up. The clouds start rolling. I'm like, a miracle. We're going to get rained. All right. And it rained.

And now everything I own outside, has a nice thick coat of goo on it. Oh, no, it's like the combination of the ash and water. It's like, ugh. I don't even know what to call that. It's like a smudge, sludge, uh, yeah, fire sludge. Like a fire paste. It's very pasty.

Yeah. It's a good way of putting it. It has the consistency of paste. And then when it'll dry, we got to go out and hose it before it dries too much. But it's just every car, if their car is parked outside, ours isn't. But if it was, it'd be covered in this stuff. This lady's white car across the street just looks like, it looks like a gray van. Oh, no.

Yeah. Oh, geez. But anyway, lots of, lots of that. You guys missed that by a freaking inch. No kidding. Well, looking at Logan, I mean, air quality, the, the AQI, air quality index is like 51 to 100 in. So, woo, terrific. Yay, that's good news, breathing all that in, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. Let's see. Air quality index. Logan, uh, currently an unhealthy level for sensitive groups. I'm a very sensitive person, Scott. I was going to say,

you will cry in a Pixar movie. Yeah, yeah. I cried during a Toy Story 5, right? I, I tear it up during Toy Story 5. Yeah,

and if you did, well, then Logan's not got nothing for you. This isn't bad. Exactly. Here we go. Logan, Utah,

Air Quality Index. Yeah, it's not as bad as it's been, but I think this storm helped. So it should be, it should, it should help. And it looks like a majority of it because that, what is it, the Smith, Smith Field.

No, what is the, what's the one down south in Utah? Oh, Richfield. Richfield, that's the one. That's it. Yeah, that one is. It's bad. That one's bad. Yeah, that's where all the Nevada smoke's going.

It's really bad in like St. George and stuff. And Hastings and iron, what's called. Iron incident, Utah. Oh, it gets just iron. Oh, iron. That's really weird. There's Iron County. Okay, so that must be it.

Because they tell this one over here is the Hastings Incident. And this one down here is the Tower Incident. Weird. It's like, it's like bones episodes or something. Yeah, very weird. But yeah, that's bad down there. There's a lot of retirees in St. George. So there's a lot of old people trying to breathe smoke.

But there's also a lot of students. So it equals out somehow. It all pays for itself. Great. Great. They can breathe the good air for the old people. Yeah. In place of the old people.

Yeah, I'm sure it'll all work fine. No one's losing any old folks today. Sure, sure. Anyway, thanks a lot for the continued smoke monster nature. You're great. And let's see what we can do about that drought. All right. Yeah.

Brian, a couple things. Let's talk about Supergirl. You went on soft last night. We'll talk about Tina first. Oh, yeah. How's Tina doing? Tina's doing great. She had a cataract surgery yesterday morning.

went without a hitch. I mean, the actual procedure took eight minutes. It's super short. It is. And she had the big old funky bingo-dobber sunglasses that, you know, you got to wear leaving that place. But what a trooper, she said, yeah, I'm still fine for a movie tonight. So we kept the plan to watch Supergirl.

So she's recovering. We've got all the lights off in the house upstairs, just getting the ambient light from outside, which is just fine. Because the way that stuff works is those particular level of eyedrops that create the, what you call it, dilation. The dilation. They're like extreme.

It took me three and a half days to come off of this. Like three and a half days of seeing, with full dilation. It was crazy how long that took. They never took that long. We've got another appointment down way down south in freaking Parker Colorado today this afternoon.

And then in two weeks, we do the other eye. and that's going to be, I'll need to talk to you about that because that's going to affect two days of TMS. So we'll figure it out. Figure something out. It's good to do them that quick back to back. Because then you're not spending months waiting for the other eye to catch up or do all of it's bullshit.

It's good. There will be a nice overlap of four weeks where she's putting, she's got six drops or six weeks of the drops that she's currently got for her, for her right eye. And then it's going to overlap with the other one. So for four weeks, she's going to be putting these drops. in both eyes four times a day. Yeah, it's mostly antibiotic stuff,

but it's, uh, there's one of them. I talked to her, I texted her and she, she had said, um, that one of them, and I think it's the one I had.

One of them you can taste and it's terrible. Yes. Terrible. Like you taste in the back of your throat when you, uh, and you, and it's a, and this awful reminder that when you put liquid in your eye,

it's got to go somewhere. Guess where it goes. All right. Right to the back of your taste buds, dude. Oh. Yeah. Exactly.

So nasty. anyway. So you're, you know, you're drinking Vizine every once in a while when you use that stuff. She getting the sand in the eye sensation or no? Fortunately, no. She told me that you had mentioned that to her and she's not getting that. So nothing yet. That's good. So thank goodness.

Yeah, it's usually just the sensation of the flap healing that they cut. Yeah. And then that's you and it just feels like they're sand in your eye. It only lasts a couple of days, but it sounds like she cleared that hurdle. That's great. She did. Yeah, so far so good. So, all right. Big, big things

to premier eye care of Colorado for doing a great job with her and gave me a chance, you know, it's close enough to the mall that has an Apple store that I was able to drop her off and then go and try and get a solo loop band for my Apple Watch. Dude, they are sold out freaking everywhere of the solo loop silicone bands of almost every color except blush. Ew. The one that looks like your own arm? Gross.

Yeah, yeah. So they said, well, it's available online. I'm like, well, great. I kind of wanted to try a couple of these out and just see how they look with my watch. But I don't know why solo loop bands are so hard to find right now. But I guess I'm buying it online. But anyway. Wow. Yeah, I don't know why that is. Why would they be so rare? That's weird. I don't know. Yeah, don't know. Colorado, man. They're all running. They did do sizing for me. So I basically know what to order when I hop on the Apple. Although now I'm thinking, all right, Apple store or Amazon where I can get probably a five-pack of different colors for $12 bucks. Or get one from Apple for $39.95 or whatever they charge for a solo loop. So it's like, yeah, I think I might be, you know, maybe it's fortuitous that they were sold out and sent me away. Yeah, sometimes you win when that happens. Yeah.

Never know. A solo loop, braided solo loop, good lord, $99 bucks. You know what you can buy with a nine, you can buy a steam controller, the new steam controller for $90. Yeah, yeah. You can get a pretty decent, uh, what else can get for $100 now? Yeah, things that aren't. Things that are $100.

Things that are, yes, things that are $100. My gosh, that loop's too expensive. Holy shit. Yeah. Why a braided, that's insane. It helps subsidize those cheap MacBook neos they're making. I guess so, yeah. Here we go.

Amazon three-pack braided sport loop band, compatible with Apple Watch. Three pack for 1278. Ah, yes. Free delivery tomorrow. Some of those are sketchy, but some of them are great. Yeah. You know, for 12 bucks, you could try it. And if it doesn't work, you're not out a hundred bucks.

Nope, you just send them back. Take that, Bezos. exactly although i think just throws it in the uh throws it in the bin it's what they do yeah in the bin chuck it in the bin with peace and love all right hey so how was supergirl let's give you a review of supergirl last night a very a very okay superhero movie oh all right we're not

yeah okay all right uh i wanted i was going in there are three aspects of this i really like millie alacococ is is fantastic perfect perfect choice for this and it's such a refreshing change from the goody two shoes carbon copy of Clark Kent um uh female miniature version to just be a

uh you know we had a blip to just be basically like a miniature Clark Kent Boy Scout kind of thing gotcha um so I'm glad that wasn't the case Millie Alcock has a lot of sass she's you know she's um

I don't know. She's just got this kind of I don't care attitude, very punk attitude, which is great. The bad guy is so two-dimensional. It's unfortunate because you know, he's a really bad, bad guy,

and he does every, like every single thing he does is to tell you, hey, I'm a bad guy. Here's something I did that's really bad. Oh, mustache twirl time. kind of thing. Is that this Krem character? It's Krem, yeah. Okay. I don't even know who Krem is.

I don't know if he's so not necessarily, Stephen be able to tell us this for sure, but not necessarily a real DC. Oh, you think he's a made up one, maybe. I don't know. No, I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know either. He's nobody that I recognize.

Yeah, I've never heard that name ever. Yeah. it may be made up for this movie. Matthias Shodanarts? The hell what kind of name is that? I guess so. Well, what kind of name is coarse sweat or corn sweat and al-a-cock? You know what?

That's a good point. What's going on, D.C.? Jeez. Everything's got a weird name over there. Oh, Incredible Sausage says in the comics, he's a handsome swashbuckler. This crem guy. Okay. All right.

Mamoa is great. I've never been a big fan of Lobo in the comics. I'm probably one of the rare few, but I, like, Lobo never felt, he always felt like a sort of a punisher, Wolverine kind of, I don't know, rip off or,

or attempt to, to get some of that. And I know I'm, I'm sure I'm in the minority of feeling that way. But Momoa's take on the character is great. Like, I want a, I want a, a,

um, a Lobo, like HBO series or something, kind of like, a peacemaker. I think it would be great. He's the first DC actor to double dip like this? Certainly

in big roles, yeah. I mean... Can't think of any others right now. There's got to be like somebody who is in you know, like one of the original Superman films, Christopher Eve, Superman films who

had a different role in a Zach Snyder or something. There's got to be. But he's certainly as far as like the big like your big characters for sure. Yeah, like one of your mains. Yeah.

And go right from that generation to this generation of films. It's kind of crazy. Oh, Stigma says the dude who played Sinestro was also in Shazam. Oh, that was, isn't that Mark Strong, right?

Is it Mark Strong was Sinestro? Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah. I think so. Incredible sausage confirms. I think that's, that guy's great

and he could do anything, but his Sinestro was hilarious because he put that little mustache on him. Yes. I love it. Yeah. So they do, you know, they do try and make it more than a superhero movie. It's, it's, we talk about this all the time how the reason MCUs, some of us, MCU's best films are so good is because they're, they're a combination of not just a superhero movie, but a heist movie or a, um, a political thriller or a space fantasy, that sort of sort of thing.

This one is about 80% superhero movie. and about 20% John Wickey and Revenge movie. Interesting. Yeah. Lots of getting drunk on the Red Sun, I assume. Lots of getting drunk on the Red Sun.

Right. You know, the fight scenes are great. Oh, here's a little bit of a complaint. What, you know, one of our favorite James Gunn things, and this wasn't even a James Gun directed film as James Gunn produced, obviously.

But one of our favorite James Guns, gun things are the needle drops, right? Like, you know, uh, um, doing the whole, oh, here's the song and we're going to play it while supergirl fights in

slow motion and kicks people's asses and stuff like that. Um, it's almost like they said, how can we put seven needle drop songs in one, one film? Really? Yeah. It's a little,

it's a little overused. Yeah. That's a bummer. Rotten tomatoes reviews are kind of, a lousy. 57 is all they're getting yeah bums me out I'd say it's a little better than that I will say this

there it feels like whoever wrote this directed it also was a big fan of Mad Max Fury Road so I feel like there are going to be some elements in here there's there's wives like there's you know a storyline about

crem having a bunch of wives prisoner oh wow keeping them keeping around it to continue his line or something? Kind of, yeah. More for selling, but yeah, but still like, very

similarly dressed to the mothers in Mad Max Fury Road. Wow. I know the story of the comic this is based on, the run that this is based on. Yeah, Woman of Tomorrow or what is it? Yeah. There's a bit of that. Yeah. Fury Road, you know, Mad Maxie stuff, so it's good to hear that made it over.

Yeah. I mean, I want to see it. I don't know if I want to 50% see it. Yeah. I mean, I'd say if you're going to see it, you definitely want to give it the benefit of the biggest screen you can see it on. So I'd say try and see it in theaters if you can. But have expectations a little bit lower. All right. I can do that.

Now one of the things that I enjoy about the movie going experience at Alamo Draft House is there's zero tolerance policy for people talking in the film. Indeed. And I've only ever had to use that once. It was during Wicked or maybe the sequel to Wicked where somebody next to me, I can't tell you, Amy, it's an important plot point. So I'm not going to say one way or the other, especially not going to say on this show. She's asking a question in the chat room that would be a big spoiler because it's a major

plot point. Anyway, so, you know, I've had to like pull out the app and say, hey, person next to me is talking or back then I guess when it was wicked it was writing it on the piece of paper and sticking it in the thing but the couple next to me sat down and from the moment they sat down during the the Alamo pre-show all the way up until like through about 20 30 minutes into the film through the credits through the thing through the two videos that Alamo shows you that say this is now a quiet time this is now time to stop talking no texting put your phone away unless you're ordering food blah blah blah I talked through all of that

and and not in whispery tiny tons no it was like like oh did you know the green sun can hurt her oh did you know you know ne ne ne neen like he's he's de-splaining DC splaining to his wife or girlfriend everything that's going on the film right finally I had enough and I pulled out my phone and I like you know said bring me bring me a manager bring me someone to help bring me a buff young man exactly so um so they come and and kind of do it not under the auspicious of of picking up our popcorn bowl but they do pick up our popcorn corn bowl and she kind of leads for it and says did you need did you need something else and i'm like yeah the the couple next to me and i say it in i say it in a tone that i

can make sure the the the server at almo can hear me but i'm also not saying it and quiet enough that the people next to me can't hear me. I'm being pretty blatant about, yeah, the people next to me have been talking ever since the movie started. Yeah, yeah. And she's like, okay, sounds good, sir, I'll take care of it. And so she takes three steps to her left. And she says, hi, you know, we've had some complaints. But she'll never guess where they come from.

And we have a zero tolerance policy about speaking in our theaters. And the guy still looking straight. ahead at the screen says, well, aren't you talking now? Oh my gosh. This is enough for me to get up and twist a testicle off of him and throw it somewhere. Totally. F that shit. Exactly. And so she's like, we have a zero tolerance policy about talking. If I have to come back here, you guys are, I'm escorting you out without a refund. Yeah. Do you understand? And he apparently shrugs or something. And she says, No, do you understand?

And then the girlfriend or wife says something, and she says, do you understand to her? Wow. And the guy says, yeah, fine. And then she leaves. And then he turns to me and goes in this loud of voice, are you happy? Oh, F this piece of shit. And I turn to him and I say, I will be. If you shut up, I paid just as much to see this movie as you did.

And then I look back forward at the screen. Did you ever make another peep? Never made another peep, and when the credits started rolling, they got up and walked out. I was totally expecting. I was like, ready if he had one more thing he was going to say to me. I was ready. I was going to say, wow, no matter what he said, here was my response. Wow, you had an hour and a half to come up with what you were going to say to me, and that's all you came up with.

You got some good responses all in the chamber. I had an arrow in the quiver, but I didn't have to use it. It's too bad there wasn't a big, like, popcorn battle or something, you know? brawl in there. No, I just, you know, and I know the people, because the people on the other side of them were looking at them, like, when they were talking, because I gave a, I gave a glare as well and saw them looking from the other way. Tina was getting irritated.

The guy next to Tina was getting irritated. So it's like, you know, jerk. Who does that? Who does that? Yeah. Especially the part where he's like, well, aren't you talking right now? What are you five? Right.

Exactly. And not only are you five, do you have shitty parents and you're a terrible five-year-old? old? Exactly. You know what? Go to AMC. Go tell Nicole Kidman you want to go talk during her movies. Totally fine. Enjoy it. AMC doesn't care about that stuff. Yeah, they don't have a strict policy.

But I was really like they did still continue to whisper and I could only tell that just because at the corner of my eye you see him lean towards but I didn't hear anything so I'm like, cool. Whatever volume you're doing now, that's perfect

because I can't hear you. I can tell you're talking but I can't hear you. But I was ready. I'm like, if he was going to talk again, I was not going to hesitate about pulling out the app and saying, yeah, sorry.

And then as they would have escorted him out of the theory, I would have said, now I'm happy. Yeah, I'm happy now, buddy. We still paid the same amount, but you're not getting the movie. You're not getting the movie and you're not getting your money back.

Oh, I don't know why. That feels so damn toxic, that guy. It does. It does. And, you know, it, it, um, it distracted me from, you know, from a part of the movie. Not just they're talking, but that whole having to deal with that.

And, and then just kind of, you know, your adrenaline is up from having a confrontation, which I don't care for. You know, it's like, just be cool. Can't you be just, why can't you just be cool? That feeling is cool. That, like, fight or flight, I'm going to freaking clobber somebody feeling. Oh my gosh. I hate that. I hate it, too.

Totally hate that. Well, I'm glad you made it out of there without any other incident. Oh yeah, totally. Yeah, I'm with you sci-fi. Whispering every now and then is fine. I'm, I will absolutely not, you know, request. I will not care on a manager if somebody's next to me whispering. But when they're, when they're talking, and it is seriously, it was, it was nonstop throughout the first part of the movie. Yeah. Until I, until I called someone. So I would have looked at that girl and said, get out while you can. Well, she was, she was just as bad. Oh, yeah, and he was doing dumb things like, repeating lines like, not going to end well for you. Like, you know,

like whatever she would say on screen, sometimes he would just repeat it like, you know, gross. And then she would, yeah, yeah, I hate it,

dude. Yeah. That makes me want to, I hate it. We have a society. We have rules. Exactly. Don't break the social contract.

All right, speaking of social contracts, we're going to break one with Wendy. Okay. Wendy's going to be here and we're going to talk about things about, life and the world. So here we go.

I hope you've hydrated for this letter. That's Dan, not Wendy. Something wrong, Batman. Has anybody seen Wendy? Yeah, we have seen Wendy. She's right here. She's my sister and she's on the line. Hi, Wendy, how are you?

Hey, good. How is this breaking the social contract? We were talking about Brian at a movie theater where somebody was just being the worst talker and then when they were confronted about it, they were like, well, aren't you talking now? It's like, yeah, exactly. It's like, I'm amazing.

I mean, the woman that came and talked to him really made, like she got stern. And I think she was inches from just saying, you know what, smart ass, you're out. Get out of here. I wish more theaters were like this because I've had similar experiences and it never ends that well. It's always just the whole movie. I had to deal with it. What am I going to do? Sometimes I'll get up and move.

The only other option is like confront these people. And if they're like this where they're confrontational. Yeah. You don't want to be the next viral video on TikTok. No, no. And I don't want to disturb by confronting them. I don't want to now disturb everybody else around us by having to do that. Yeah, it's freaking awful. But anyway, I'm glad you made it through relatively unscathed. Yeah.

Well, Wendy's good to have you here. We got to do the Therapy Thursday thing. And I don't know, one day maybe we'll, we should tackle what is it about some people in movie theaters that are, where they just lose all sense. of, you know, we... Decorum and considerate. Yeah, what is that in people? It's, you know, it is a...

Do you think they just lose it there and that they have it everywhere else? I think they have it everywhere, probably. I think exactly. I think it's with that main character syndrome where they, they don't see other people in their life. They just do what they want to do when they want to do it. Yeah, yeah. I think that's it. I feel like you have to give someone a substance to really change their personality in

dramatic ways. I think they're probably doing that. elsewhere. And then the theater is just one more place where... That's true, right? You cut down on your... Backer self-awareness. Your self-awareness goes down when you're either stoned or drunk or whatever it is you're doing.

It could be that. But then there are those people who are just naturally terrible. And I think that's what Brian had is that guy. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Yep. Well, let's get to today's therapy question.

This comes from a friend of the show, someone you talk to briefly, I believe, at the event as well. Yeah. Yeah. I hope I talked to her. She didn't introduce herself as, as that person. I mean, yet she says who she is in the... Yeah, she says it's fine to say her name. It's Cindy for the eye doctor's office.

Yeah, and I'm bummed that I'm sure I met her. I'm sure at some point she, you know, came up and said hello, but I don't think I connected. She never said who she was, you know, how we know her from the eye doctor. Yeah. Well, I saw her very briefly. I think it's great she got a chance to talk to you, but here's what she said.

And she says it was okay to use her name. She says, hi, everyone. Apologies up front. This is a long one. She says, this is Cindy from Scott's eye doctor's office. That's true. I go in there all the time for my prescriptions and checkups. It says, Wendy, we chatted briefly at Nurtacular about menopause.

Is it menopause? It's not meadow pause. No, man. I wish it was meadow. We just lie in a meadow. Meadow pause. Metapause. Metapause.

Google's new metapause. I think I say meno. No, I say menopause. Mena? It doesn't matter. Anyway, I'm having whatever version of that is. Speaking of me of meadow, you're in the weeds. I'm in the weeds.

So for anyone that's not comfortable with some of TMI regarding women's health, too bad, that's the menopausal gen X are speaking, she says. I am currently 57 years old. I went through full-blown menopause at 44. I did the whole hot flashes thing for the first couple of years, but over the last two to three years, it's the brain issues that have been affecting my life, especially at work. I've been an ophthalmolic tech.

I hope I'm saying that, right? For 18 years, so I know how to do my job, but I was forgetting to do really basic things in my charting, et cetera, to the point that my manager started threatening my job. Geez, Louise. I've been with my current company for 25 years. I've done a lot of the jobs, i.e. receptionist billing and patient care. I'm also the person everyone in my department comes to when they don't know how to do something,

so I ended up being pulled in a lot of different directions all day. I do see a certified hormone specialist, and I'm on estrogen, patches and cream, progesterone, and testosterone. I've also been using tricepetide since December for weight loss assistance, and it's been really helpful for that. A little over a year ago, a couple of my coworkers were talking about their ADHD meds, and one of them turned to me and said, what do you take for your ADHD? I said, my what now? the more I thought about it, the more things started to make sense as a child of the 80s, ADHD, wasn't a thing. Neurodivergent kids were considered lazy, dumb, or were labeled as troublemakers. That's true.

I can care. I can testify about this. Yeah. I fell in the lazy student category. My parent teacher conferences with my parents, they were always told, she's not dumb. She just doesn't apply herself. Oh my gosh. I'm flashbacks.

Yeah. The third grade teacher made me, what's that shit? made me sit with my three seats within three seats of her of her desk. So she couldn't hit me on or could hit me on the head with the yardstick when I started daydreaming. When I got older, I realized this was actual abuse, but in the 80s it was acceptable. I met with my primary care doctor a little over a year ago. And of course, she had to explore depression and anxiety before venturing into the ADHD world. And when she had me take that test, I don't know what it was called, but I think I scored 44.

or if you score, if you have a score of 44, it means you have ADHD. Anyway, I got a 77. I'm on Vianz currently, but I'm still having brain fog issues. Vance. Vance. Vance. Is that you said? Bivance?

I hate all these names. They're so dumb. I forget everyday words. I still walk into a room and forget why I'm there. I feel very easily distracted. I feel like something is still missing in my brain function. I feel like I'm losing my mind most days. I don't know what my next step should be.

Thank you so much for all. all the help you give everyone Cindy P. It's okay to use my name in parentheses. Thank goodness she didn't end that with, by the way, please don't use my name. That would have been a problem. Don't use my name. So where do you want to go? I assume you guys talked about this very thing a little bit, right?

On site? Yeah, well, we just menopause raged with each other for a second and then it was pretty quick. But the ADHD part, I don't know if we specifically talked about that. But yeah, she is in a very, very, very. common situation. I think a lot of folks will wonder like, oh, I think I talked about this on the panel at Nurtacular, but just is, is it just more people actually being diagnosed with ADHD? Or does everyone just think they have it because they've been online and everyone has it? And it's like a

large social experiment where we. It's a word for that. You know, you're like, me? Do I have this? What's that called? There's a, it's like a, what's that called? Somebody will say, uh, my leg's itchy. And it turns out I have this and now everyone thinks, well, if my leg is just I have that. Yeah. I can't remember the term, but the exact thing happens in every abnormal site class. You are just convinced you have schizophrenia. Simply. Yeah, it's basically like your mirror neurons get activated and you're like, I see this in me now.

Right. Yeah. And I see this in you. Yeah, totally. Okay. So just very, very common. And I think, you know, I think a good analogy when people say, oh, there's just more autism. It must be the Tylenol. A great way to think about it is, are there actually more stars

or are telescopes just better? And it's just that our telescopes are better. Right? We have a better sense of what we're looking for, especially in high functioning individuals, whereas the high functioning spectrum folks and ADHD folks were just like she gave all the exact labels that were given to those kids back then, right? And they were disruptive or they were, you know, In our dad's generation, they were left-handed. So they were beat. You know, we haven't handled it very well historically. And so now we're just getting better at diagnosing and treating.

And, you know, some of these drugs really work wonders for folks and for others. You know, it's still a process to figure out what is the best thing for her. So that's actually what I'm going to get to what she can do with her ADHD meds because she's only a year into this. And some people, it's like putting on glasses where they like, I can see. And then other people, you really do have to figure it out a little bit with your provider. Maybe it's the drug itself isn't the best fit for you or the dosing needs to be altered. So she should, my first thought with her Vivance, she should talk to her provider again. Yeah.

And just let them know if some of these things are still happening. So she's doing the triple whammy, right, which is all the menopause brain stuff at the same time as being diagnosed with ADHD as, as, you know, some of the ways we've compensated when we're younger, we just don't have the same energy to do that. So in the, you know, vernacular, it's called masking, right? You put your mask on, you go to work, you act like you're functional. And then you're exhausted. And the term often used in various circles is spoons, like having so many spoons in a day. And it starts taking more spoons to live your life and by, you know, maybe three o'clock in the afternoon, you're out. You've used up all your spoons. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So you'll have more symptoms and problematic stuff

happen in relationships and like things just start to fall apart. So there could be a number of things. There's also burnout. She didn't mention any specific things with burnout, but she has been doing the same job for a long time. And maybe it's awesome and she loves it and there's no such things burnout in her life, or there is also a possibility that there are elements of burnout. Because all these things, if we've been diagrammed them, it would be a big mess because there's so much overlapping. It's kind of hard to tell. So I think, I mean, she and I talked about we should have a whole episode on menopause, and this is not going to be that episode, but we really should. We really ought to. Yeah. Yeah. Because the fact that you can't pronounce 90%

of the words that are the treatment for menopause is killing me. Look, I'll admit it. I'll admit it. But also, to be fair, rattle off 10 medications for me and I wouldn't be able to pronounce them. It's kind of a problem. It's a problem no matter what for me. Well, and also I know Kim isn't doing home run replacement. She's doing other things.

But I bet you can't name half the supplements she takes. No, but I can tell you that there are these times of unexplained. this is what frustrates her the most. Times of unexplained emotional or sensations that are like like too much anger for something that happened. Somebody said something or whatever. Like exaggerated emotions, Kenneth.

Yeah, and she can recognize it. Yeah, it feels very much like that Star Trek thing. And she'll recognize it in herself and go, I don't know why I'm so mad at that. I shouldn't be this pissed. This is stupid. That's like a dumb drive-by thing. I don't even need to think about it again, but for whatever reason, I'm on fire about this. So she recognizes it.

She knows what it is. Like there's some healthy things about that. But it still doesn't change the fact that she's suddenly filled with rage about a thing she doesn't need to be. And she hates it. So I know all of these parts. But if you say, what's the name of that cream? I'd go, I don't know, flip a zapidiptoid. I don't know.

All right. I'll give you a free pass. By the way, could we please have. Flipidepa zepaoid as a show title, please. Yeah, get that in there. Get that in there. Yeah. I mean, it does illustrate just slightly.

I mean, I'm not going to test you, Brian. But, you know, literally half the population is medically castrated at age 51, right? And if it was the other gender, you better believe this would have been solved a long time ago. And we are one of only, what, three species that actually lives past menopause? Oh, really? and some little whale. Come on.

Someone help me out. I don't know. I would guess pigs because it seems like it's always you know, pigs and humans are the only ones who can get sunburned and whatever.

It's like, you know. Well, that is gross and true. Yeah. Why do we have to be so much like pigs? Can we be closer to something else? It is helpful though because we can use their valves for stuff.

Yeah, that's true. Pig valves are pretty good for heart replacements. And, Beth. Is she nastiness they have? Yeah. We have.

The only problem we have. The only problem we have. have, or the only thing we don't, or that's the reason that these feral ones are such a problem. I don't know if you guys saw John Oliver this week, but I did. Yeah, I had no idea that it was such an issue, but man, these roving bands of feral hogs. Yeah, it's bad. It's because they're so smart. They're like, they're more like us than we care to think. Anyway, they're going to start walking on two feet and that is going to be weird, man. Anyway, sorry, go ahead. Hey, real quick, do you remember what the topic is?

It's menopause. And, uh, yeah, see, see, ADHD, isn't it? Yeah. Actually, it works both ways. I know. But if you had like the brain fog that comes with menopause, I promise you at one point, you would have no idea what the previous top. Sure. Yeah. And it makes you feel so crazy. And this happens.

Okay, one thing to note, I mean, my 20 year old yesterday forgot. And now I'm forgetting the name. Dang it. Oh, there it is. You know, the artist with the soup cans? Oh, Andy Warhol. Yeah. Andy Warhol.

Yeah. He couldn't remember. And I was like, oh my gosh, I need to, I need to film this. I just need to remember that 20-year-old brains forget things. They just don't worry about it. Right. Yeah. But we feel as you get older, you start to go, oh, no, this means I have dementia or whatever, right?

And so it's a lot more obvious. But there really, truly is a huge uptick in brain fog with hormonal shifting for female bodies, right? And so that happens. That looks a lot like ADHD. and when we're running out of energy to mask all the time and maybe we're a little burned out and we've grown children doing weird things, whatever. You really have a, the worst storm. And it is really tricky. You don't feel like yourself. All of the hormones that made you like your spouse are dropping, like tanking. And so now they're just annoying. One of the most common things

I have been experiencing is it's misophonia with one thing in particular. When Adam flosses his teeth and I am, there is a level of murderous rage. I did not know I was capable of. What part are you hearing? Are you hearing like the floss go? Just popping out. Yeah. Yeah.

And a little bit of breathing. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, you have to leave her. I'll kill you. And he has now, it's so funny. and every time it's time to floss, he'll just literally go outside. But I don't have it with the eating,

which I think a lot of people do, and that would be much worse because that's a lot of time as eating. Anyway, so it gets weird. You can have itchy ears. You can have an itchy tongue. You can have, in my case, I got vertigo, and now my ears are clogged all the time.

I have the hearing of a 30-year-old, but my ears are jacked. Like, the list goes on and on and on. And suddenly you just don't even feel like yourself. And it explains why, you know, when you see an old lady who's ready to kill everyone and has a been a chin beard, you're like, oh, that started at 49, you know. So it's a difficult, difficult phase. The fact that her co-workers just diagnosed her ADHD is pretty funny. But it is also one of those things that like you're just living your life.

You do it how you do it your whole life. You don't know. And then suddenly you realize, okay, there is this thing that explains it. And so getting diagnosed, getting on medications, all good. But there might be some other things, again, check dosage and is it the right medication and talk to a provider about that. The other thing is it's, you know, it could be some of these other things all happening at once. And it might be sleep.

Sleep is another massive thing that changes during their hormonal shifts. And the loss of sleep waking up in the middle of the night like your, you know, hearts racing or night sweats or, you know, all of the things that can happen. and sleep will absolutely rock you and make everything worse. So I would ask her about her sleep and work on what they need to adjust so that her sleep is better. I know she's on progesterone. That tends to help with sleep. If she needs more, maybe magnesium, other things, there are ways to get your sleep better.

And so that be something to pay attention to. Obviously, the hormonal stuff she's working on. And that is, it's a little bit of a roller coaster. She, and, you know, she's a little bit past that. So some of it should be leveled off. So making sure that is, you know, what it needs to be. And then another thing to think about is this. And this is just for anyone listening who has ADHD and it takes medication,

especially if they were diagnosed later in life. The medication is supposed to help your executive functioning. So we always talk about it's like a distracted problem or a focus problem. It's not actually a problem focusing. they everyone can focus and when they do they can sometimes hyper focus which you guys are probably familiar with that idea of like you are cannot be torn away from something multiple things at once or something yeah yeah all your attention is sucked in so it's not that you cannot focus it's more of this executive functioning thing like being able to to start a task complete a task you know be

motivated by anything other than an emergency um you know really a lot of things going on in an ADHD brain that are really challenging to control just on your own. And so there's two things. Medication is often really helpful for folks. And there's also ADHD-specific kind of therapy and guidance. There's lots of really good books where you really build structure and create systems in your life that allow it to function. So some of the people I find do the very best with their ADHD have, you know, they sort of will eat the same thing in the morning, wear the same thing. You know, like they, whatever the thing is they've created that reduces decision making and reduces distraction. So maybe it's a rule like you do not go into a room. You do not leave a room.

There's a basket by the door or something. So anything you need to go put somewhere else, you would just stick in the basket until you're ready to leave. We all do that, right? We're all in our room and we're like, I've got to put that somewhere else. And when you have ADHD, you're going to forget why you left, what you're doing in the other room, etc. She did mention the door effect. And we all have this, the doorway effect, where when you change a setting,

it just interrupts working memory. And so we all have it. We walk into another room. We're like, okay, why did I come in here? And you walk back in the other room and remember? Is that what that is? Because I did this yesterday. I went upstairs and went,

this is really important what I'm going up for. Like, go up there. I only hit a few minutes because the show was starting. I went upstairs and I stopped. And I went. What did I come up here for? I don't know what I came here for. And then I thought and thought and thought and thought.

And I'm like, I don't know. So I come back downstairs and I'm like, it's too late to go do it. But then my brain goes, oh, yeah, that was to get water, dip shit. Right. You see your like empty cup on the desk and that's a reminder of like what, uh, why you did it. Yeah. Duh. And water.

Hello. A basic human need. You know, that's not a thing you're supposed to forget even when you're just going upstairs. So anyway, I mean, I'm not. So it's called the doorway effect. And it really is. is just changing. You give your brain an entire new environment to look at. And so working memory

gets interrupted. And it's now like, oh, I got new stuff to work on. And that's why going back is when you remember, because it's in this space, the thought came in the space. It was working memory in that space. So it doesn't mean anything's wrong with you. But if it's happening more and more and more and more and more and it's really bothering you, you should obviously, you know, get checked out to see what's going on there, but that's the doorway effect. Or you could just wait for someone you know to say, oh, what are you taking for your ADHD? I mean, that's the way. Exactly. That's how you'll get your diagnosis.

Yeah, right. But here's where I'm a little more concerned with what, not so much is the medication working right now or she's having some of these things. It's really a before and after, right? So, you know, if you forget a word here or there, there's other brain fog things. There's a little bit of that is normal in life, and that's maybe where you're at now. I don't know. But what's the before compared to now? And that would be my one question I would have asked her.

What does she notice has improved? And she did mention some things that haven't. But what is the before to now and then know that you're still trying to put these pieces of the puzzle together? Like sleep, reducing stress, that would probably be a big one. most people are not very good at knowing how to reduce their stress. They think it's just like taking a break and watching TV or something. But actually to reduce their overall stress in their life, a lot of people maybe aren't doing what's necessary there.

So I would look at her sleep, her stress, her hormones, medication, anything. And look at the pre and now. And then I'll just throw it in. We did not talk about this. This is not related to her at all. But just for anyone, is there any sort of underlying sort of back? that we're carrying around because of a late diagnosis, a lot of emotional scars can come from decades of being told that you're lazy and that you don't try hard enough or you're smart,

but we don't understand why you won't just do the thing. You know, like that that's on the mild end and it can go all the way to the very bullying end or the really deeply shameful things, right? So what we have wrapped around tasks and executive functioning is some real baggage. and you're so used to it, you may not even realize that's there. So that is something to look at. So when someone comes in for treatment, they've got ADHD as part of the component, I'm always looking at how did you get hurt by living in a world that wasn't built for that kind of brain? And working through some of those can really add a lot of relief to somebody.

So that would be how I'd sum it up. What is kind of lingering that might be psychosocial or emotional there? and then let's double check our medication is the right one and the right dose and then really work on some of those other puzzle pieces like stress sleep and hormones. Yeah. And get a support group. Wendy, Wendy does this.

You do a lot of promotion of the whole sleep stress cycle. Yeah. No matter what the situation, it seems like that's often a component. And if I'm honest, the only times I've really seen an improvement in a place that even maybe doesn't feel even like connected to sleep or stress. When I focus in on that, like you've said, some of the practices like, you know, don't go into, don't go to bed till you're ready to sleep or, you know, don't be reading or watching something all night or, you know, the blue screen stuff and all, all those little

tips and tricks. Whenever I've tried those and I've been, you know, committed to doing it, it's one of the only times I can actually say I've seen marked improvement. in whatever it is. And so there really is something, something there. And I feel like you were saying earlier about how when we're younger, we have ways of masking this better or dealing with it or whatever. We're more chemically, you know, resistant to that.

But then things like menopause, just aging in general, has a way of stripping that away. And then you're suddenly like, am I suddenly bad at a thing, but I'm not actually bad at it? I just don't. I just never had to manage it. in this way. So anyway, I only say that because that stuff really helped me. Yeah. And burnout is real after working so hard to, you know, I'm assuming Cindy with her

lifelong diagnosis of ADHD has done extra work to do well in life and maybe has never thought about it that way, right? Because that's just how she had to do it. Right. And so and often when folks get a good medication going and really start to see differences, they're like, what? Is this just how everyone gets to be? And it's, yeah, they don't have to work this hard to put, you know, to start something and finish it, to clean up a mess after they've made it to, you know, and everyone's got a varying degree of this, right? But the amount of effort is truly what is, is sort of staggering. And so exhaustion, um, it's not, working the same way anymore. There's more to this than just, oh, I got this magic pill that then

makes me able to, you know, sort of get more done, which is often what people experience is they can get a lot more done. But then you've got to deal with the ramifications of a lifetime of sort of having it not work that way. So welcome to getting the help that you're getting. I'm really happy for you a year in with ADHD meds and it is about where you should be except for maybe there's should be slight more improvement. I'd like to see a little more improvement. So I would talk to your provider and just find out if I advance is really for you. Yeah. It sounds like just some tuning might be needed or whatever, you know? Yeah. Yeah. We'll see how that goes. And deal with the bigger outside issues, right? If if you take your ADHD meds too late, you're not going to be able to sleep,

you know, it sounds like she's she's doing tricepotide and that's helping with maybe some other elements of this. And you can just, you know, you're tweaking and figuring it out. I think my favorite meme I've seen recently is just, you got all these women out here just doing single double-blinded medical studies

on themselves because we just don't have good medical care for women. We just freaking don't. The first time women were required to be part of medical studies officially was like 1993. Yeah. Remember? I was a junior in high school.

It's kind of ridiculous. It is. It totally is. Yeah. On one hand, I get the fact that because of the hormone situation with women, we are way harder to study. So it's much easier to study boring old dudes. Yeah.

Those days are over. Scooch over. We got to figure this out because we're going to make all of you real miserable about age 51. Yeah. I just put all the way. I could kill at him with this flossing. You guys.

If he's dead, you know it's because he flossing. in front of me. News out of Minnesota today. A woman killed her man. Her boys didn't know. She just took the whole thing and wrapped it around his neck. They're blaming it on mesophonia mixed with something else. Well, anyway, I'm, I hope this, I hope things improve for Cindy.

Cindy's one of my favorite people. She's a total sweetheart. And I'm excited for what she can, she can find with all this. So good luck with all of that. Let us know how it goes. Wendy, anything happening on know better you.com we should tell people about right now. Well, soon enough.

I'm in the middle of my other class. And man, I'm learning more. I had to stop learning. I feel like that's part of it. No more learning. I'm going to add. No,

I know that's like you said that about the time management, like that you're, you know, you learned so much doing the class that you didn't. Yeah, that's really good. That's really fun. Yeah, no,

it's good. So I'm thinking, yeah, I will let you guys know soon enough, but probably around August, I think is one will do the happiness class in August, September. So I will keep you posted.

Oh, and a reminder. If anyone wants to write in. Yeah. Oh, go ahead. No, I was going to say Dr. Tolbert wants people to be reminded that they are offering, there will be a, what do you call it? A scholarship offered for that class. Yes, yes.

So if you're interested, we don't know how that will work yet, but that's a thing. That's floating out. Yeah. All you do is reach out to me. And I just. And you take care of it. Whopper to boom and then you're there. Wapada boom.

What was the word we used before? Wippoo-a-Zit-Zit-Zi. No, I don't know. But I did want to say one thing. If anyone is in a romantic relationship with a menopausal woman, I'd love an email. If any of you are chronic flossers out there and you're scared. No, I would love to be giving men some advice. So somebody write in so I can riff off of it, please.

Because I think there's, besides flossing outdoors, there's a lot of really good things. Floss out to take it outside. Adam. Go rent to hospital. hotel room, do your flossing. I'll see you later tonight. Soundproof booth. That's amazing.

All right. Well, Wendy, have a fantastic week otherwise. And say hi to everybody, and I hope nobody bugs you with their floss sounds. Bye now. All righty. All righty. Brian, we're going to do a quick email. Cool.

I'm going to whip this one out. It is from Jason R. This is about the jugs of pee? Here's what he says. I was worried you were going to jump right to the email without playing that. I always got to play it, man. Good, good. Jason says, hello, Scott and Brian.

This is Jason R from Pennsylvania. Just wanted to comment about Scott's turmoil and the toy box conversation from yesterday. So I did a little stream yesterday. Oh, I did. I listened to while I was waiting for them to wheel Tina out. Where my book went? There it is.

This book. And I did some readings from it. We used it as a chance to test the blips and all that. And anyway, he says this. I'm a Christian. I grew up under all that stuff. But now looking back on it, I think it's so hilarious and hypocritical

that they talked about, the magic and all these other properties, but completely ignored Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia because they were written by quote-unquote Christians. Not that they weren't, but it's just funny that some of the same magic violence all happens in those two, but that's okay, sorry, but that's okay because it has Christ's image in it.

So funny, so dumb, have a great day, guys, he says. Yeah, I also think that's annoying. Yeah, a little part of my complaint. Double standard there kind of thing. Yeah, like they were all worried about He-Man, or Dungeons and Dragons or all these things that don't have Care Bears.

Yeah, care bears. The thing in here about care bears is crazy. That is. It sounded like it was absolutely nuts. They also don't like the Golden Girls. There's a whole thing. Really? Yeah.

I can't find it. It's something about... Is it particularly Blanche or whoever? No, they should be living with... No, there's some of that, but it's like they should be living with men to take care of them and junk like that. Oh, geez. Okay, Phil Phillips.

Just horse shit. Yeah. And correct about there was an American Idol contestant named Phil Phillips. There was also the guy who did the song Sea of Love, the oldie song Sea of Love, I believe, was also named Phil Phillips. Do we know that song? How's it go? Come with me, my love to the sea, the sea of love. Yeah, that's a one-hit wonder right there.

Yeah, it is. Yeah. Honey drippers did a great version of it, though. That might be the one I think I know. You probably know that one. Yeah. I don't think I know. Rubber plant.

Thanks, rubber plant. Oh, that's right. That is the one I'm thinking of. That is the one you're thinking of, yeah. I like that. The oldie actually has some, bum, bum, bum, come with me. Like it has, you know,

not a cappella because there's musical instruments, but there's some additional vocal levels to it. Well, there you go. Phil Phillips, his name is everywhere. That's right. Wicked kitten, you might be thinking of Beyond the Sea for Bobby Darren. Oh, Beyond the Sea. Somewhere.

Beyond the Sea. They're waiting for me. Finding Nemo, I think. It is. It comes up as a plot point in the TV show Lost, we found out too. Oh, and the rewatchy-watching. In the rewatch, yes. Nice.

All right, that's your email for the week. That's a text, actually. Thank you, Jason R. And if you guys want to send your own, go to frogbands.com slash TMS, and you'll find ways to do it. Today, there will be a coverville. Brian, tell us what it is. Kurt Smith is turning 65 this week.

So, time for something. some tears and or fears all your favorites mad world pale shelter everybody wants to rule the world shout mothers talk i'm doing this all for memory i don't have a list i'm now i'm pulling up the list now that i've now that i've distracted myself i actually have to pull up the list um but yeah no all your favorite tears for fear songs covered by other artists you're going to hear people like um georgio marauder brother tiger uh let's see paul young yeah every time you go away paul young does a Believe it or not, does a Tears for Fierce cover, as does Lucius, who I just love. I love the band Lucius.

So tune in for that. It'll be right after TMS today over there at twitch.tv slash coverville. Very, very nice. Underrated, not they're a rated band, but it's an underrated moment in time. Yeah, it really was. I mean, they, you know, they combined some incredible hooks. Head over heels is just so laden with great hooks. with some really good lyrics.

Yeah. Except for my mother and my brother used to breathing, clean air and dreaming I'm a doctor, I think is the line, and dreaming I'm a doctor. Oh, yeah. But it's hard to be a little when there's a girl in your hand. I got to fill my life. What does that have to do with falling head over heels?

Anyway, yes, tears for fears coming up right after stuff today. Excellent. So watch for that. And core 1 p.m. today. We do have a big full core. We got to talk about these steam machine prices. There's a lot to break down in that. Plus, I finished Resident Evil 9. Lots to say there. So please tune in and check it out. That's a 1 p.m. today. Finish, finished, right? Like, would John agree that you finished it? Or did the credits just roll and you didn't do any of the after the credits? We did the credits. There's a stinger and there is no other gameplay. There's no disc to like the remake of two. which is where he claims I cheated and only played half the game. I'm telling you, if there is a whole credit roll, I beat your game. Done. All right? That's why I'm dying on that hill.

Fair enough. Anyway, more at frogpants.com. You can also get film sack this weekend. We're doing a roundtable as well as a play date tomorrow. Brian will be on the road, but we will be rocking some games in the morning. So if you want to be a part of that. Play some games in my absence, in my memory. and he's stead.

Brian's dead. Play game of blah the round and think of me. That's right. Namy will dominate it like she always does. All right. That's going to do it for us. Let's play a song and get out of here. Yeah.

Chris wrote in, said Friday, June 26th is my birthday, 53. Did I just write 53? Good Lord, I'm old. It is also my first day of summer vacation after my 20th year of teaching seventh graders. Dude. Damn. Good for you. seems like a tough age to have to have to manage kids.

Seventh graders, they are like, they are experiencing emotions. They're experiencing ponfar and they have no idea what to do with all those. They don't know what to do with any of it, but you probably help shape some pretty red kids. So I think that's awesome. Totally. He says, so yeah, schools out, not necessarily forever, but at least until August 27th. Wow. Fair enough.

Yeah, how about a good cover of schools out that we haven't played before? Um, Soul Asylum, uh, recorded a version for the movie that we covered on film set called The Faculty. How appropriate. Uh, 1998, the Alice Cooper song here are Soul Asylum. Thanks for listening. The Frogpants Network lives at Frogpants.com. Under there is a maze of shit.