The Morning Stream - TMS 3029: Big Medical Fork

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

How About a Bobby? Brian be illin'. Sucking Down a Coke. Heel Cheese. Logan says sorry this time. Feeling the Warmth of Another Man. Bee prisoners. Robert is my Alternate Name. Dudewarming. There are FOUR NEEDLES!! Hard vibing with Niki and Huyen. You can RENT BEES! Half Scott's Frontal Fell Off. No Dudes Allowed. Victory Pancakes with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Logan says sorry this time. Feeling the warmth of another man. Be prisoners. Robert is my alternate name. Dude warming. There are four needles. Hard vibing with Nikki and when. You can.

Brent B's. Half Scott's frontal fell off. No dudes allowed. Victory pancakes with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. It would seem that a power much greater than mine has decided that mankind must live. What in the world are you doing? The Morning Stream. Save it for the French.

Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for June 30th, 2020. I am Scott Johnson, and I am joined today by guest sit-in-er, Lord of All Life. I think I said that because you look like Jesus. I think that's what happened. I was about to complain about guest sit-indinder, but then you said, Lord of all life. I don't know why I did that.

My voice, I went, look, I went to the gym, and when I go to the gym prior to the show, I'm both a little shaky because I did arms today, but I'm also a little stupid for some reason. And I don't know what that means. Why is that? Do you think it's like endorphins? I was about to say, it's got to be endorphins. Every time I work out, hi, my name's Bobby. Oh, this is Bobby Frankenberger, everybody.

Join him. See him? Have him. Anyway. Join him. Yeah. And whenever I work out, like, go on a run or. or any kind of like that.

I feel awesome for at least for a couple hours afterwards, often for the rest of the day. Yeah, me too. Like, there's two days in a row now that I'm trying to get back on the regular wagon, not just once a week or whatever. Not the bandwagon, the regular wagon. The regular wagon.

And today, the best part is I got there and the two bits of equipment I liked the most were available to me. That was great. That is a good start to a day. Yep. That is great, because it's always full.

or was it, did it have sweat all over it? No, no, it was pretty clean. And the only issue was, well, which one do I do first? Because if I get on one, surely the other one will get taken. So what was I more interested in at first? So I decided to do the cardio bike thing first. It was my exact position, location, and the brand of bike I like. It's one of those that's like powered entirely by the pedaling.

So there's no cables or any of this. It's not plugged in anything. And I really like that. And then that may be more. common than I think, but I know there's some that are plugged in. There are there anyway. So I did that. And then the other thing was this, this weights thing where it's a machine, but you put on all the weight you want. And then you got to pull it way back above your shoulders and kind of to the rear. And it's supposed to work here like, whatever these are called,

not triceps, whatever this is. Traps. I think it's, I don't know. I don't know if it's traps. I don't know what it is. I don't know muscles. But, so I do that one next. And by the time I got to that another dude had been there in the interim and it had it wasn't sweaty but it was kind of warm you know what I mean like it could tell a dude was just sitting there and the hand things were hot and it was just like and he was canned things yeah and he was over there grunting I wore headphones this time so I don't hear people grunting but I could still hear him so anyway the gym what are you gonna do everyone go to the gym uh you're gonna go because you need to another note about so I talked about us on the Monday show.

Oh, I should mention why Brian's not here. Brian is ill this morning. He came down with something. His throat that was bugging him yesterday. Not the 90s good kind of ill. No, no, no. Or that new ill video game, horror game coming out. Not that either.

It's just Brian caught something while he was here in Logan or developed something or who knows what. It got worse. And then overnight it turned into a full-blown head cold. So he is taking the day, which is the exact thing we should do. We're a health and family first organization here at Frog Pants. and Bobby was very kind to sit in. And caught it in Logan.

So Logan says sorry this time. Yeah. Logan. Sorry I'm Logan. No way. Something like that. Inside joke, everybody. Anyway, I wanted to talk a little bit more about the nail thing I had done yesterday.

See here's some photo evidence. I went to a nail salon. Place was packed. They had people lined up on both sides of this building or just covered in these chairs. That's Kim next to me. That's me looking dumb. That's my brother-in-law Richard who looks really weird in this pick, but

if you see him in real life, he's this massive human and he would scare you. He would intimidate you. And that's his wife, Audra, on the other side. Anyway, he's growing a Johnny Ringo mustache from, what do you call it?

Tombstone. So he's working on that. It's got the little, like, poiny chin thing, and then the mustache kind of curls out. He's working on that. Anyway, that's not part of this story. Let's get back to what's happening here. that's me, sitting there at the place. And the reason I'm sharing this is because yesterday,

I thought I was like, you know, I did it. I talked yesterday about kind of how on the Monday show, anyway, I talked about how this first real professional pedicure of mine, the lady was like super fast. She was like done before anyone else. I couldn't understand if that had something to do with me or if she was just efficient that way. Still not really totally sure,

but I was like 15 minutes ahead of Kim and her brother and her sister-in-law. Fine, whatever. I sat there drinking my Coke Zero that they had, or as they called it, cock zero. They did not say that. It's an accent thing, all right? Everybody working there.

They're all from Vietnam, wonderful human beings. Wonderful in every way. And most of them had excellent English skills. And it was great because if I had to say something or answer something, I feel like I could communicate. So I didn't feel like a dummy. But you can't help hearing what you hear. I can't help what my brain hears.

And what she says to me is, she says, she goes, no, how did it start? She goes, you're like, you want to drink? And I said, oh, absolutely. That'd be very nice. Thank you. And she says, what kind? And I said, do you have Coke products?

And she goes, oh, you want a cock? Yeah. And I said, yeah, can I get a, I almost said it, but I said, can I get a Coke Zero? Right. Coke Zero coming up. And she went and grabbed a cock zero and brought it to me. Yeah. Good.

How was it? How was the cock? It was. You know, it was the best low calorie cock I've ever had. All right. It's starting to sound bad. Anyway, that's just a little side note. I wanted to share with people.

I forgot to talk about it on the show yesterday. it on the Monday show. So some of this may be new, but let me just say I'm a fan. It was a very lovely kind of a intense rub down of your feet, shins, and calves. Oh, they're the best. It's incredible. Like, for any of you dudes going,

I ain't going on there, it's for girl, that for lady. If that's where your head's at, first of all, why are you listening to this show? Why are you listening to us? Second of all, you're missing out, man. Get in there and let them work it. This is like Yeah. This is like, almost felt like sacred ground in there because it was kind of quiet in a good way, like library quiet, but packed with people. The lady in charge, I forgot her name. It's like Joy or something. She's walking around. She has cropped blonde bleached hair. She's older. She's from Vietnam. I think she was a kid at the end of the war and came over with their parents. And there's a whole documentary about it. It's called Nailed It, I think. That's all about the advent of Vietnam-owned nail salons in America after

the Vietnam War. It's fascinating stuff, super interesting. But this place is packed with dopey white people like me sitting in these chairs and these incredibly efficient, like knowledgeable, hardest working people are just running around getting everybody's feet done. And all I'm thinking is, sorry about the left one. I know it's got a weird thing on the toe there and also that nails weird. And I'm just,

I'm all like so self-conscious in there. But man, I walked out of there with us, just bringing my step. But anyway, jump a day, though. That foot hurts because I think she cheese-grated the heel a little deeper than maybe the manual recommends.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do worry about that sometimes. Stephanie will use like a, like a,

it's like a, almost like a belt sander. Yeah. For, for, for, her feet at home and she has gone too far before and said, talked about how it hurt. It really hurts because it shreds those little nerves once you get to them.

And you think your heel is kind of impervious because it's sort of numb like your elbow. It's like, you know, it's built up and it's not super sensitive. And it's your heel. Yeah, but you don't realize it's, it's so, uh, the lack of sensitivity is mostly because there's, um, there's a callus. Like your, your heel is like a giant callus. Yeah. So if you're not a little kid, you've been building up this callus over time.

And as adult, you don't really think about it until, you know, what's, I almost called her a name that was not correct. Anyway, she, I almost called her Joy, but that wasn't who did it. It was a different lady and I forgot her name. Anyway, Joy, we'll call her Joy. She took that cheese grater and it looks like a cheese grater. Yeah. Yes, Stephanie has one at home too. So, yeah, it looks like a cheese grater.

Yeah, she just was cranking away, did the right foot first, no problem. Left one she's doing it. I kind of felt a little like, ooh, and it burned a little bit. Okay, and then it was fine. And then it took a night and then a day. And then yesterday I was just like, what is going on with my heel? And it's just this bright red pink little hamburger patty back there. Yeah, but you wonder, is it because she went too deep?

Or is it because this is the first time those nerves have felt any sensation in like 30? years. Oh man, I didn't think of that. That's possible. I have stepped on a nail on that same heel. One time that sucked. I had to get a tetanus shot for that. I think I was in my 20s. And then in my late 30s, they found a weird kind of thing that was growing on my heel and they couldn't figure out what it was. So the doctor's answer to that was to numb my foot and surgically, just in office, surgically removed this area. Yep. That was going to be their plan. The doctor was like, I don't know what that is. Let's get rid of it. Yeah, it was weird a little bit.

You never want to hear a doctor say, don't know what that is. Yep. And especially when the only solution is cut around it and when it could be, that could make things worse. It kind of actually did. I couldn't walk on that thing for weeks, it felt like. But anyway, here's how he does it. Now, you might think to yourselves, oh, what is that? A little tiny, little tiny pinprick to the heel, numbs up your foot. You're fine. Yeah. No. It's a syringe this long. It is a thick syringe, big gauge on that bastard. Mm-hmm. Inserts it into the flesh of the heel. Deep, injects its murderous concoction, pulls out, and then your foot goes numb. I can never, I can't quite express the level, I've never experienced it before or since this. The level of pain that that thing gave me is undefed.

Describably, like I, listen, I know women have given birth to five, six babies and they look at me side-eyed when I say stuff like this. Sure, sure. But I am telling you from my perspective, my limited perspective with pain, with extreme pain, nothing has hurt worse than a needle through the heel. I thought I was going to die. But it was brief. It was like the most shooting horrible pain for about eight seconds. And then he went to Diggin. And now my foot is whole. Are you the kind of person who likes, if you get a vaccine, you look away or are you what? I look away. I don't have so much.

I've seen, I've looked before, but if I look away for some reason, I'm just less, I just kind of care less. So I don't, any needles are fine. I can't self-inject, though. Oh my gosh, no. My body won't let me. Like if the plunger, thumbs on the plunger, things on the leg, whatever shot it is. And I'm like, just go. Like there's a force field?

Yeah. Just like, yeah. Like just push it. push it and I'll push and I'll try but it's not moving and I'm like what is this but in the meantime yeah Kim has to do it for me and as long as if I just turn away it's fine I don't when they take my blood I don't care about that as long as I'm just not looking it's fine. Stephanie just went to the to the plastic surgeon because she's getting you know reconstruction on her um mastectomy that she got and they have to start filling the

there's like a bag inside there that they fill up to stretch the skin and um and she said the needle that they used that they used to fill that up is is this crazy science fiction horror-looking gnarly needle gauges thick gauges like you're talking about because they have to push saline through it yeah to fill up them and it's but it's a needle with four it's like a thing with four needles sticking out of it and then they jam it in there right at her chest and uh but she said it's great because she had a mastectomy all the nerves are gone so she she can't feel it. Oh, really?

Yeah, but it still bleeds, she said. So it's like really this weird thing. A big medical fork is what that is. By the way, glad to hear that that went well, that she's doing good. Everyone holding up okay? Everybody doing all right. Yeah, everybody's doing great as far as we can tell. Stephanie especially.

So yeah, quick update, because I know we want to, we've got some people coming. Yep. But a quick update is that at the time of Nerdtacular, I got a bunch of people asking me about it. and she hadn't had surgery yet. She hadn't had the mastectomy yet. But when I got back, it was like, it was like arrived. Then the next day, in-laws came to watch the kids. And the day after that, it was the mastectomy.

And I stayed with her overnight. But they took it out. And they tested the lymph nodes. They took two lymph nodes. At the time of the surgery, they tested clean. But we found out later from the pathology report that one of them had a, what they call a micrometastases or micrometastatic carcinoma

which basically means there's cancer cells less than a millimeter in one of the lymph nodes which at first we were like oh no because we thought we might not have to do chemo but they told us the doctor told us well she was going to have to do chemo anyway because she's so young

40 years old you know she's you've got a lot longer that you can live so they're going to they want to do chemo anyway just in case there's cancer anywhere, right? Yeah, it's usually. So we, yeah,

that's normal. That's typical. So we're waiting. We just haven't been to the oncologist yet. Actually, tomorrow, we're going to the oncologist to find out what the next steps are. But everything's going great so far. She has not,

she got an entire body part chopped off, and all she's taken is Tylenol. Jeez. That stuff doesn't even work for me. I've impressed. That's fantastic. Yeah, she's always been that way. When she got C-sections for both the kids,

all she took was she never took any of the hard drugs afterwards. She always took just ibuprofen. Wow. So she's got some kind of crazy pain tolerance. The women in our lives. She's doing great. She's up and moving around. Yeah, I know.

I don't get it. If I stub my toe, I'm like, where's the oxy? Yeah. Yeah, give me some of that oxycodone. Listen, my wife gave birth to two of my three kids naturally on purpose, like chose to. I don't get it. Yeah. I don't freaking get it. Like, to this day.

She chose to do this. She chose it. And then did it again. She was like, hey, what do you want to do with the second one? Because that first one was, that was pretty rough. I think I'll do it again. I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? Women, man.

They're amazing. Anyway, well, I'm glad. I'm glad to hear that we're on the road here. That's good. Yeah, she's up and moving around and like almost like normal. She was telling me last night, I don't know why they cleared me to be out of work for so long. I could go back to work right now. She's not going to because I reminded her that she gets tired very easily. Body's still healing, but she feels great.

So we're still positive and everything's going great. Good. Thanks everybody out there for all your well wishes on her behalf. Yeah, for real. That's the one silver lining about all this is I've been made very aware of how great the community is because so many people reach out and share their stories with me. and ask me how they can help, and that's been really wonderful.

They're kind of the best. Everyone. Well, got some good news for everybody. What does this sound mean to you? Ah, that means somebody we're used to having around here occasionally is here again. It's Dr. Nicky, not just her, though. Well, Dr. Nicky, let's say hi to you first. Hi, how are you?

Whoops, I muted you. Say something again. There you are. That's my sheep impression. That's really good. It's pretty good, right? Yeah. I thought there was a sheep on.

Tell me if my mic sounds like a professional mic, because every time I come on the show, I sound like I'm calling from a urinal or something. You actually sound great. It sounds like a professional urinal, though. It's using your Shore MV7 right now, it says. Yes, that's the mic I won on ANTP. Oh, well, nice. Oh, really? That's fantastic.

Yeah. I feel like we're working with a bit of history here. It's like, really? We really helped podcasters, didn't we? Yeah. Here's some other good news before we tell everybody why you're here. Huen Tadau is also here. Am I saying it right?

Please correct me, Quen. My husband doesn't even say it right. So it's totally fine. It's Huyen-Dwe-Dat-Dao. Yeah, I'm getting me, so it's hard. It is hard. And tones and things like that. So you can say when.

You'll forgive me this one time, right? We're all right with this? Of course. I'm going to work on it. I'm going to work on it. Hey, it's fantastic having you here. And of course, Nikki, here's the reason we're doing this, guys. You guys have something in the work.

You've been concocting something. And Nikki reached out to me and said, hey, we should talk more about this. And I said, well, come on the show and tell us all about it. So whoever wants to start, tell me what you guys are planning. Why should we be excited about it? Well, thank you for that, by the way. It's nice to be able to just message you and you'd be like, yeah, okay. Yeah, hell yeah.

Get in here. I mean, you're part of this big, wacky community as much as anybody. And I don't know. I like when people are doing cool new stuff. So let's promote the hell out of it. Yeah. Take it away, one. Yeah, well, actually, it's kind of because of this community that we started doing something because we met for the first time in person, like at all at Nerdtacular.

And we enjoyed each other's company and chit-chatting and doing the panel so much that we decided, hey, like, I think actually simultaneously we were like messaging each other afterwards, like, you know, should we do a show? Should we do a show together? This has happened to all of us here, I think. Oh, yeah, no. In fact, the best things that have ever come out of this network are almost always from something like this, whether it's like, I played a game with a guy and he really impressed me. And now I'm going to reach out and say, do you want to do a thing together or whatever? Like, it's always always comes kind of organically.

And it feels like this is perfect. So what you guys have described, I think, is on the, it's in the rulebook of how to make a new show somehow connected to frog pants in this small way. Yeah. And we have two thirds of the, or no, three quarters. I can't do math. The science panel here. So at Nurtacular, Tom and Bobby and when and I, was there anyone? Oh, was there anyone else?

No, that was us. No, that was us. Four of us, yeah. Science versus Tech panel. And I think it was really fun. You can go back and listen to it. And then we thought, let's do a show, but like, but we're both busy. So we're like, let's do a TMS style show, but for kind of like women in STEM.

And that's like kind of casual. At least that's where I was coming from. I wanted to listen to a show. that I would like to listen to about people kind of in my demographic. So, yeah, I don't know. I think Wend's vibe was the same. Yeah, pretty much the same. I've actually done interviews with people in my industry throughout my entire career.

And it just kind of made sense. Just talking to each other, seeing what cool things we're thinking about, what we're doing. And hopefully talking to other women in STEM to talk about what cool things they're doing as well. Yeah, I love that. At some point. I don't feel like, do you feel like there was like a whole? to fill out there? I mean, my personal exposure to anything like what you're describing

is pretty low, but I might also be in the wrong demographic or I'm just a dope. That's entirely possible. But do you feel like there's a niche to fill here? It's hard to find podcasts, but I've looked and I haven't found the vibe that I'm looking for. There's lots of great shows that are either

very technical or very like scripted, kind of like NPR style, but there's not like a that I'm sure there is one, but like not one that I've found. That's just like a chatting. kind of just, you know, what's the vibe in the field, what's going on, and what do we find exciting? Kind of like TMS, but I mean, we even, our first episode talks about farts, so I feel like Oh, yeah, you're in the neighborhood for sure. That's fantastic.

And I should say, the reason we're doing this is because DTNS is doing Experiment Week next week, July 6 to 10th, and we, our show is going to be promoing on Monday. So go over to the DTNES. feed and listen to. Oh, you've already, so it's already in the can then, right? You guys have already done it? Yeah, we recorded it last weekend. We got a question from a TMS listener from CAP, so thank you, Kapp. And maybe one wants to say more about, like, what this one's about.

I don't know, or if you guys have questions. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we kind of sort of taking inspiration from the panel a little bit, but we kind of decided on picking a couple things that were a vibe in our respective industries or just something that we thought was interesting or uplifting. And we kind of went from there and also tied that into these requirements. I think we really edited. It's also really funny because we just met, what, two, three weeks ago. And I think also the way that we, that we approach subjects and we approach, like, expressing our opinion and things that we're excited about are very, like, synced up. We kept, like, kind of, I mean, we're different people, obviously different interests and different fields, but we seem to be, like, we seem to be, like, vibing very hard in a very good way. So, yeah, hopefully, hopefully people like it. It's just, and that's just us chatting about things that we're, excited about.

Well, having, having, having, having, having, having, having, having, having you guys, uh, I've only known you for about the same three weeks and, uh, known Nikki for a few years now, I could totally, like I can sense the vibe already. And I can tell you this, in my little business, there are not enough female voices out there. And part of it is because, uh, you know, it's just, I don't know why it's so male dominated. I'm really glad, though, because I, this sounds like a show. would really get into and totally check out. People in the audience or in the chat are saying similar

things. Ashline-N-S says, I would love this show. I'm a writer, so not in STEM, but a woman-hosted show about women is awesome, and I would listen to this, or this isn't always listen for me. That's exciting. Yeah. Well, even if you're not, even if you're not in this, like, you don't think you're into STEM, one of the really great things, having been on the panel with the two of you, one of the really great things that I like about both of you is that you're both very curious and very excited about talking about things. We actually came here just to get compliments. I love it.

And that's what makes it so fun to listen to you guys talk about things is that curiosity and that excitement is there, present, very forward, and it's cool. Yeah, there's an energy to the both of you that I think will translate extremely well. And I mean, that was on display at the event. When I first sat down to talk to you for the first time, it was the only real free minute I had to even do this. And I went, oh, man, she's just part of it. She's like one of us.

Like, what's going on here? I felt the same way, yeah. Yeah. And so having, having, you know, these two very smart, capable folks get together and make a brand new show is just super exciting to me. So I'm really jazzed about it. What's the plan for frequency? and, you know, is it a weekly?

You guys doing monthly? Is like, what's your plan? Well, first of all, I've been going around telling people that I'm breaking the glass ceiling because, like, I'm totally starting a podcast, bro. I'm almost embarrassed. I'm like, listen, I'm starting a podcast, but it's like good, okay? Yeah. Okay.

The plan right now is to test out experiment week on Monday, kind of see where people's feedback is. We've listened to the draft and we both were like, it's pretty good. Like, actually, I would listen to this independent of it being good. me who's recorded it. Sure. We were thinking to do monthly, and we'll have to talk to Tom about whether we put that in as like a segment within DTNS or a separate feed.

The DTNS feed is really has a lot in it, so we were thinking about maybe a separate feed. And then we also don't have a name because it's hard to come up with names. So we are the untitled Juan and Nikki at Nikki Huan show right now. But please send us names or Q&A questions. Honestly, we're findable everywhere, but. Yeah, or any other feedback on what you guys want, yeah, sorry, whatever you guys want to hear and anything, or let people know that you like us, I guess.

I feel like, because it's experiment week, we feel a little bit like, are they going to keep us around? Does the experiment succeed or fail? So, yeah. Tom's got some kind of chopping block and Tom's about to cut people or whatever. He never does that. Tom is just like, do whatever you want. I just want to help you. Yeah, he's great about that stuff.

That's why he's also overall kind of one. of a kind. I think he's the best. And so doing this is so rad. You say it's Monday, or no, sorry, next week's kickoff, uh, new show will be this. Yeah. So that's July 6th. Okay. Sixth of July, everybody. And the DTNS main feed will certainly carry it. Um, yeah. Keep your eye on that and, uh, and, uh, and give it a listen. I can't wait. Yeah. And like, tap into the jury method, I guess, and like, tell everyone about it and that how much you liked it and recommend it to your grandma and all that. That's right. That's what he does. Yeah. He hacks the system is what they do over there. We got to do that.

Yeah. Yeah. They, what do you call that? Social engineer? Good reviews on things. Even though it's the thing that should get good reviews, but, you know, sometimes you need a little push. We're happy to help do that too. So whatever you guys need, you let us know.

And, you know, maybe in the future, we'll be asking me come on your show because it's so big and so rad. You can't. You're a dude. No, I'm just kidding. No dudes allowed. Keep the dudes out. We haven't decided yet if dudes are allowed in our. in our little like treehouse or not.

Well, if you ever let one in, I think Bobby is willing. I am too. I'm just teasing. Yeah. Nikki, always a pleasure. Go watch some goats punch each other. And Juan, a huge thanks for being here as well. We'll talk to you both soon and good luck to everybody.

Very exciting stuff. I'm happy for them. Aren't you, Bobby? Me too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also happy. Oh, no.

Your video's caught up now. For a while, your video was like all off from your audio and it was fine. but now it's fine. Now it's even more fine. Sometimes the video bites are, they're not as athletic as the audio bites. They don't run as fast sometimes. No, no.

We can't control that either. That's a nature thing. Science. How does it work? Hey, a quick note about some news. A news today brought to you by NerdTacular 2026 T-shirts are in the store again for limited time. So if you were one of the people that were like,

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Wear it proudly. Quick story before we bring Bill in here. Millions of bees. This is kind of sciencey. That's all you needed to say and I'm already clenching my butt cheeks. Yeah, you were having to fight that while you were putting your deck together or something, right?

bunch of bees. Everyone knows. Am I thinking of something else? You're thinking of something else. We don't, we don't get too many bees around here. Oh, I know. I was thinking of Brian in Vermont

and the beehive trying to get into the hot tub on the deck. That's what it was. Right. I knew it was connected somewhere, but just where was alluding me. Anyway, millions of bees escape after a semi-truck

hauling beehives overturns. This happened in Orange County, California. I like how they say millions of bees escape as like, like sort of admitting that we're holding them prisoner. Yeah. You know.

Man, think about that. That language is awful projecting, isn't it? Yeah. They escape from their... Yeah, and when they say escape like that, it makes me think like, kind of like, like, well, good. Yeah.

Like we are captors. I'm glad this happened. I hope the truck driver's okay. Get out. Bees. Let's see, here's what happened. Nearly two million bees. They escape Sunday after a semi-truck calling Beehives overturned in a rural part of

Southeast Texas. Sorry, Orange County, Texas. Orange County Emergency Services District 4, shared posts on Facebook warning residents to stay indoors. Well, that's a call you want to get, isn't it? Yeah, really. Mr. Frankenberger, please shelter in place. There are two million bees out there.

Yeah. Is that a weird thing to hear? Yeah. I don't know how I would react to that. If someone cold called me, I might assume that. that it was a scam. Yeah.

But then later, I would think, but what were they trying to scam me for? Yeah, what were they trying to get you for? Yeah. Big B. That's just Big B working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The be hives will be taken to a local honey farm. So they will be saved.

How? I don't they escaped. Yeah, it's a little confusing. I think what happens is a lot of the bees, like the beehives go tumble it out into the road. Oh, there's video? Hold on. Oh, boy. I'm sorry, but this must be shared.

Here we go. Okay. That's them driving past. Oh, my gosh, there's the cloud of bees. Look at them flying past the car. So many bees. Here, go back and see that again. Here it is.

So they see the wreckage. And then bees! Oh, my gosh. I would die. Oh, look at this. This is a nightmare. This is my worst nightmare. That's a lot of beehives.

Yeah. It's, I didn't know they transfer. transported bees around like that. Well, so I did know that they do that. The reason they'll do it is because, well, first of all, we don't have enough bees anymore because they're all dying off, probably because they're on semi-trucks that are tipping over. Right.

But they will be keepers who have hives. They will, farmers want bees to help pollinate their crops, right? Sure. So they will rent bees, basically. from beekeepers and put them on their property temporarily to help pollinate stuff. I didn't know that was a thing. That's interesting. That's an income source for beekeepers, yeah. Oh, wow. Well, there, so you can see this in these photos. This is just a absolute swarm.

They all gravitated to the tree right next to the wreckage. And the people who are cleaning it up, like, they've got to be people who are experienced with that. They've got the bee suits on, you know, that are helping. And imagine, I imagine it being like, Sort of like, you know, in, in, what's the movie with Bruce Willis and the, in the, in the, in the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the asteroid. Oh, Armageddon. Yeah, so they call up, yeah, from, it's like an Armageddon situation, right? Like, you're sitting at home. You're like, you get a phone call.

Uh, Mr. Johnson. We need, we need your, your, your expertise. There's been an accident. And you're like, you're like, I, I'm, I'm retired. Yeah. I don't do this anymore. Yeah. Yeah, and they're like, but it's a truck and millions of bees and local people are in danger and you're like, fine, this one last time.

Yeah. And then you suit up and go and then you're in that picture. This Hollywood script writes itself, honestly. Yeah. I think this guy right here, this beekeeper here, that marking there is, I think he pooped himself because there's so many bees. That's what I think happened there. Yeah. See, they didn't call you.

or the they didn't call the retired beekeeper no no they did not and I'm then they're not better for it uh guys it's time for us to bring bill in uh you know him you love him and if I could find his stuff here we go I found it it's time for this oh wait it's time for this there's still something wrong isn't there bill well if it is an old bill toran up there in the pacific northwest holding it all down at punish props dot com. I think it is. Hi, Bill. Hello, good morning. Good morning. Got and Harry Brian. Harry Brian. Yeah. I like it.

This is great. It's like a, it's like a reunion of the, of some of my favorite people that I got to see in Utah. That's true. Oh, yeah. It was great having you there, Bill, as always. I mean, it's not like we didn't, you know, Bill is a familiar face of the nerdtacular scene. Oh, yes. But it's all of them since 2010, I think. Yep, 2010 and forward, I think. That's crazy. Miss the Vegas or two. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, the nerdtacular, I can't even, like, there's still, there's something behind me right now. Let's see, where is it? That, can you guys see the duck? Anyway, Bill made that for me in 2011. He printed giant, giant version of Steve the duck, and I still prize it and dust it every week.

I can believe it. I got to keep this stuff clean, man, you know? Well, I've been eating delicious victory pancakes for the last two weeks with my syrup prize. God, for me. Nice. Nice. Oh, yeah. Okay. There we go.

There it is. Yeah. But also, though, I just want to, I got to tell you, there's a lot in the world that's crazy. Yeah. And I think communities like the Frog Pants community are exactly what people need. Well, you need more of this sort of stuff, don't you think? No kidding.

And it can't be big. It can't be a huge community. No, it needs to be like this. It needs to be small. It's got to be a tribe, right? Yeah. And that's exactly the way I felt when we were there, me. it the whole time. Yeah, there can be, there can be, there are certainly examples out there of

when there's like, there's a threshold. And I think I know what that threshold is like for an event like that, the threshold's about a thousand. If you had a thousand people there, it stops being personal and kind of becomes like any other thing that you'd go to. You can have your fan fun and your fan moments and maybe your occasional photos or whatever, but it's just way less easy to manage. And then one thing I do like about the Frog Pants Network is that we've got, or this community is we've got like a kind of a personal connection to everybody

as well as a larger group. Yeah. The line between producer and fan is extremely blurry. In fact, anyone listening right now, there's like a 50% chance you'll end up a guest on this show. Yeah. You know the truth?

There's a 25% chance it'll start as a fitness segment. Exactly. Yeah. and then evolve into something about making things. Speaking of which. Yes, sir. I'm just glad we all found each other, and I hope I never miss a Nurtacular.

Well, I hope we never miss any chance to see you. So thanks for that, man. Let's talk about your week in making. What are we up to this week? What are we doing? This is a project I finished, and it's funny, as I finished it before Nurtacular didn't really have a chance to talk about it.

That was less than a month ago. I made a huge thing from Borderland, There's a video up on our YouTube channel. The folks at Prusa Research, they make 3D printers, they reached out. We've worked with them in the past. They're great. They have Printables.com as their file repository website, and they've been working deals with big companies like tool manufacturers,

and they did stuff with Borderlands. They have official 3D print files for, like, Festool tools, and Borderlands guns and all sorts of cool stuff. on the printables website. So they hired us to make a video and promote that by making something cool from Borderlands. Nice. It seemed like a perfect fit.

What they wanted me to make was this loot crate. Portland has all these awesome like the anime. Yeah, they pop open and you get your guns out. Oh my gosh, dude. I thought you were just going to make a gun here. I'm going to lose it.

And I've made lots of Borderlands guns. Don't get me wrong. And I would have very happily made another one. But I've been jonesen to make something like this from Borderlands since I played the first Borderlands. And it is specifically that the crate is closed and you push a thing and it opens to display everything. That animation is so cool. It is good. So they sent me the in-game 3D model, the real one from the game.

But the 3D model from a video game is not printable. It's got holes. The geometry is missing and has overlapping faces. So you got to go in and make the whole thing watertight. So it'll print. And you could do that in any 3D program. I show how to do it in Blender, which is free. It's very tedious.

It's a lot of work. I was about to ask, how long does that take? It seems like a lot. Does the whole thing printed as a single print or multiple? No, no, no. And to add that on top of that, the in-game model, it animates, right? It opens. I had to make it do that for real.

But the in-game model does not have to follow the laws of physics. It can just clip into one, pieces into one another. So lucky, not having to follow the laws of physics. Yeah. Lucky bastard. So I had to invent the mechanism to make all of that work and design a 3D model that would print in pieces because it's quite large. It's about three feet wide. And I did that.

Nice. And the Prusa XL did the whole smear, obviously, because you're... Yeah. So they sent me that printer for this project. It's awesome. It's got five toolheads. So you can load it with five different colors or five different materials. Yeah. And I like the swapping toolheads compared to other multi-material solutions because it uses a lot less waste.

It doesn't eject poop out the back like some other printers. So I really dig that design of printer. And it's huge, which is perfect because the prints for this were really, really big. It looks like it's a cyberpunk looking printer. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, with all the tubes coming off. Yeah, like cassette futurism kind of vibes and all that stuff I love about that. Here it is. What a good, what a good thing for like what a good model for people to want to get because like it looks like you can put this on your wall and it's like a shelf. I actually put stuff in it. Yeah. In fact, I forgot

to mention that you can go print this for free. The files are up on printables. Anyone can go print it. I see you've got some filament behind you there, Bobby. Sure deal. I might have to check that out. Yeah. Oh, boy. It's a lot. That's a lot of filament. Holy crap.

That's what? That's like four rolls. Four rolls. Yeah, that'll do it. Damn. What's really cool, I did print a test piece in full color just to see if I could do it. I did not print the whole thing. I ended up painting it, but you could print the whole thing in full color, which I think is just really, really cool. Yeah, that is rad. So you're, but the, but I, the, but I, the,

painting is going to be half the fun with this one, right? Because you're doing all that distressing and that kind of cartoon. Yeah, Borderlands has a very distinct look. Yeah. So, of course, first I had to sand everything, which is my life. So I sanded everything nice and smooth. And then we did the painting. And I did do a base coat with spray paint, but everything else I painted it by hand.

Just hand and brush to really get that Borderlands look. Like the stuff in Borderlands looks hand-painted. It looks- Yeah. Yeah, it looks hand-drawn and also distressed like a realistic thing. It's a weird combination. I always feel like when I watch cosplay videos or something of like, oh, here's DragonCon for the year or whatever. I feel like half of it is people continually mastering or one-uping each other or iterating on Borderlands style of-of-cosblank. Yeah, I have two friends, my friend, Stephen K. Smith, he's got a YouTube channel.

He's painted probably hundreds of Borderlands masks. He's really nailed the style. Then my friend, Brittany Blanken on her last name all of a sudden. Brittany Blanquin. Brittany Genoa, she's on Instagram. She is a master at painting, especially the Borderland style. So those two people are my inspiration for this. And I tried to hold a candle what they can do.

Your hand cut freaking stencil. You like that? That's awesome, dude. That is, I love the, I was, I'm assuming here that you, like, put letters, I don't know why I thought this, but like letter decals on there, but no, it's like the opposite of that. I have a vinyl cutter too, but I wanted it to look a little bit handmade, right? Yeah, a little bit. That's the idea. And then, of course, you got to finish it off by outlining everything in black.

So I used a little fine liner brush and some black acrylic paint and did all the outlines on that. Of course, they all had to go together with the mechanism. them. There's a couple of springs in there. The way it works is you hit the button, the bottom swings down with a couple of things on it, and the top is spring-loaded, so it slides and opens up. Okay.

And it was a little fiddly, but I got it to work. Well, that's what you want, though, right? Because the effect of that in the game is like flung. It's almost the original loopbox. Like, it's... Exactly, yeah. That visceral feeling of, I just got some rad shite, even if there

really isn't, the box sure made it seem like it was going to. Yeah. So I designed some tool holders for the inside of my crate here. It'll hold a normal claw hammer and a tape measure and one of our one of our knives. That seems like a pretty good bet. And I have it hanging up in my shop right now, load it up. If I need a hammer, boy, it's right there. That's so cool. Now, are you going to put, I don't know how this, what this would take, but what would it take to springload some preset weapons in there? Not ones you can remove, but, you know, like you're doing with the tools here. Yeah, so the tool holders I 3D model I actually 3D scanned all my tools Dropped them in fusion so I could model the tool holders around them So I've got actually in the background somewhere there

There is a small borderlands pit Oh no, it's right in the front there the unkempt Harold I don't think it'll actually fit But there's some borderland stuff I could model different holders for it basically Ammo holders or whatever you need And just pop them out Gosh dang it

That's rad That's so cool This also seems like just such a great like you're going to go down a rabbit hole of other accessories that have this look exactly you know what I mean

yeah I want oh my gosh if every like container and hanger in my shop had this look that would be amazing I would love to walk into that every day yeah so cool you'd probably get Randy Pitchford to come visit and then leave a questionable memory stick

full of pornography while he's there sorry The side story, a whole different thing. Go look it up. Go look it up. It's the thing with him. Anyway, that's fantastic. You also usually leave us with a chance to see something else.

Do you have a link today? Yes, this one, so I got a video I just dropped in the chat there. Alton Brown has been a media hero of mine for like 25 years. I watched all of his shows like goodies back in the day. He's got a YouTube channel where he has been making, I think, some of the best. YouTube out there. I mean, he's one of the best presenters. He's amazing at

presenting technical information in a really fun way. He's got a team of people helping to make this that are just magnificent. The video I shared with you is him making pancakes. Yeah. The victory pancakes. I like that he's wearing

a robe like he just got it. He goes through a lot of extra effort to film and record and present his videos in a new an interesting way, and I've been inspired by that for the last 25 years. And I want to make my videos more like he does. Oh, I want to make pancakes, is what I want to do.

Pancakes. I haven't had breakfast yet either, so it's probably happening in that. Yeah, I think you may as well make that happen. Go look it up. It is the Alton Brown Channel, and of course, punish props as well. You can see this build that we just talked about, as well as a bunch of other cool stuff happening on that channel. Tons of shorts. I see those are doing

really well for you. That's fantastic. Bill, anything else you'd like to say before we kick you unceremoniously out of this phone call? I love all you guys. Oh, we love you, man. Go make something cool and print it or something. Bye now. All right. You guys know that I have his original.

I show this to Bobby, I think, when you were here. Way back when he was just starting. He had not. In fact, I think it was the first model he built and he made two of these. Gave me one of them. but it's Jim Rainer's pistol from the... I think you told me it was the first

gun that he made, right? Yeah, I think it's the first gun he made. And when he sees this or I bring it up, he gets very embarrassed and is like, oh, everything's changed. Like, obviously, you know, you progress or whatever. But I cherish this thing. I love...

Yeah, I think when I saw that, when you showed that to me, I was like, that's a piece of history, a Bill Durant history right there. That's really cool. Yeah. Plus it's Jim Rayner. one of my favorite characters in all video games.

So everybody won. Bill thinks he didn't win, but I won. I feel like I won here. So thank you, Bill. I'd feel the same way. You show me a drawing from 10 years ago and I want to throw up. I'd much rather redraw it now. You know, it's like that.

Wow. Creators get that way about their stuff. It's just how it is. Yeah. Guys, it's time for a quick email. This is from Jam the Ham. All right. Wow.

Yeah. I don't know this person. I assume they're great. because everybody we get on the show is great. For some reason, my screen's screwed up. Hold on, everybody, hold on to your butts while I fix something. Okay?

Why did that work and that didn't? Oh, I know. I'm not sure I want to know about jamming the ham. Jamming the ham is not something we'd recommend doing in polite company. No. Here's the email. Sounds like an accident. Yeah, it does sound like a mistake or an accident or something like that.

Oh, I jammed the ham. I jammed my ham again. This is about the jugs of pee? This game is a text, I believe. Jam the Ham says, in reference to Wednesday's show, I had an aunt and uncle who lived in South Carolina. Oh, funny, you're here today. That worked for Jim and Tammy Faye Baker.

And in the summer of 1985, I went up there with my dad and my sister, and I walked in the front door with my Dungeons and Dragons books, and she flipped the shit out. Man, it was hilarious. Wow. You know what, Jam the ham? I respect that.

I do. because we were talking about this, Bobby. I don't know if you've heard me go on about it. The fantastic book series, turmoil in the toy box. There were two of these. Yep, yep. By Phil Phillips.

And this is a... All right, Chad, you guys can see us. It looks like it reconnected to YouTube. Okay. Sorry about that. A glitch. The power went out. The worst part is that my mixer is not on the backup.

up UPS. So the sound that the mixer makes when it goes, when it loses power in your ears is deafening. Oh, it like pops, right? Yeah, it goes, ka! And it was just like, yeah. Half of my frontal whatever fell off. All right. Anyway, we're back.

I was reading this email. Oh, yeah. He went up and saw Tammy Fay Baker and the Bakers in 85 and the books and everything else. Anyway, that's what that was. We finished that email. I don't know why I pretended we didn't. Yeah. That means we're done with the show.

show. We got a, I have a call I need to play, but it's for Brian. So I'm going to save it for, for tomorrow when he's back. Bobby, I would like you before we do anything else to spend a little time telling people about your show, why they should listen to it, what you guys have covered lately. All that stuff. What have you covered lately? I have a podcast called All Around Science, All Around Science. I say that so, precisely because so many people want to say all about science, but it's while it is all about science,

it's called all around science. Do you regret that, wish you to said the other thing, or did somebody already? Well, we wanted to call it all about science, but that title is taken by some like non-profit or something. Oh. Having had an argument with nonprofits

about names of things that I thought I owned, I understand why you don't want to pursue this. Yeah, it's not a great position to be in to be trying to strong arm a nonprofit into giving you something of theirs. So it's all around science. And my co-host and I, Moira, who you've met before and many of you have met, we just talk about science, the things that mostly news and then just chat about what we think is interesting.

But we cover science news on a weekly basis. This recently, this past episode that just published on Monday, we talked about, there's There's a spider that catapults ants into the air. That's how it traps them. Jeez. Yeah, in order to avoid. Here's a little teaser. It's hard for a spider to capture ants because ants swarm, right?

Right. And to defend themselves, that's part of what they do. So this spider has figured out a way to single out and trap individual ants and pull them away from the group without getting swarmed. It's pretty cool. Spiders. I don't like them. They freak me out. trust them. They shouldn't be able to do that. What is this magic bullshit I'm hearing about today about these new spiders? This is something my daughter would save and take outside and let live.

That's what would happen. Anyway, that's my two cents on your topic. At the end of the episode, we also answer a thing of talking about, you know, there's a lot of talk about putting AI data centers in space. And someone had a question about like, I thought that that was not possible because of you can't really actually cool data sent, things like that in space. And I gave a little bit of detail on how that works. Oh, I need to hear that because I assume, so here's my assumption.

You can give me up or down on this, but you don't have to spoil the episode. But if they put them in space, I thought the reason that it was an issue was not about the cooling because that would work. It would be the latency to get data back and forth. Well, we didn't talk about latency, I will say. But the cooling question is complicated, and that's what the crux of my answer is, is that, you know, some people say, oh, well, there's no air or liquid floating around in space.

So how would you, you know, how would you conduct or convect heat away from the thing? It doesn't work, and it just wouldn't work. And I said, yes, but it's more complicated than that. And it's not, the answer is maybe surprising because it's not outside. It's not crazy of an idea to cool those things in space. It's just there's a very nuanced and complicated answer to that question. So that's what, if you're interested in that, you should check out this last episode of all-around science. What if I, here's a question.

What if, sorry, now I'm curious. No. Hey, curiosity. I encourage it. It's also killed a cat. But anyway, what if I took? I don't encourage. I take a 10-based T, you know, category eight cable or something, long enough to do this.

and I just George Clooney a server into space. Just push them out there like gravity. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. And it just head over heels, floats into space. And let's say my cable's long enough for it to, I don't know, go a couple of million miles away from our atmosphere. Yeah. That wouldn't work, right? Because the harshness of that cold is literally going to just all, everything about that machine is frozen.

No, it won't. Okay. I'll stop you there. It won't freeze because it's a miss it's a it's a misunderstanding that space is it depends on how you define cold, but it's it's space isn't so much cold as it is It has no real temperature Because how do you define temperature right temperature is about is about Energy in matter and and the the whether you feel the heat or cold has more to do with energy moving from one medium to another and rather than some absolute property of something. It's about energy. And so if it's a vacuum in space,

there's no real matter there to have the energy to make, to give you a temperature. So it wouldn't freeze. That's why we would freeze because we have the matter. We have the water. Because there's matter in our body. Yes, exactly. And we would be, the energy from our body would be, you know,

it'd be a problem. Yeah, but these machines, they're not sweating. It's not like you got a computer sweating up there, so it doesn't have these. Exactly. Exactly. But it wouldn't be good for the server if in the way you described it, you just pushed it out into space. It would not last very long. Sure. And like I said, I go into lots of the details on the episode.

Nice. Go check it out. All Around Science, everybody. That's all around science.com. Fantastic domain. That's probably the other reason. You got that name, right? It's good, no man. Yeah, it was a dot com.

Nobody finds them. Dot coms no more. If you're starting a podcast, there are a couple things you have to consider for your title, and one of them is, can you get the dot com? Because that's the best you want to get the dot com. All right.

Get the dot com if you can. If you have to, I guess you can deal with the dot net. Yeah, and I've done that before too, and it's kind of, you know, it's okay, but it's a little embarrassing. The instance used to be that.

The instance. dot net. I could never get anything else in the dot coms. And am I right? Aren't you like, you're always like, it's the instance. Dot net. Yeah. That's kind of like, eh, it's what I could get. It's the, it's the phonetic way of saying this sound right here. Hold on. It's what this sounds like. Dot net. All right. That is it for us. We're going to play a song on our way out of here, though.

And, oh, quick reminder, we got a couple things going on. says it's on YouTube channel now. I just want to remind people of that. If you're watching the YouTube channel live right now, well, that's because you already know this and you're already over there watching it. While we do the simultaneous stream on YouTube, we also put up the archives there. So whenever a show is done, it gets reposted in its final edited finish form and put up on that YouTube channel. So if you're using YouTube for podcasts or just prefer your content in video form or whatever, YouTube.com slash at the morning stream show. That's the morning. morning stream show on YouTube. And we would love it if you went and subbed over there. That would be

great. We'd like to grow that on its own. Um, I think that's it. There's lots of stuff coming up. Just go ahead and check the frogpants.com slash schedule if you're confused about any upcoming content. And let's get to our outro song. Brian sent this to me and said, uh, this came from Matt B, who wrote, Hey, Slayer and Baby Metal. Today is my 39th birthday. My two favorite bands are Green Day and Blink 182. And I would love to hear a cover of one of their songs. For this, Brian picked a very cool 80s style cover of 21 guns by Michelle Simoneal. Siminal. Simonal. Would you say Simonal?

Simonal. Simonal. Ask your doctor if Simonall is right for you. That is a fantastic song from the American Idiot album. I love that song. 21 Guns is fantastic. Wait, is it from American Idiot? You remind mixing it up? Anyway, whatever.

I love Green Day. And I love that song. So we're going to play this cover. And we're going to do it now. Brian might be back tomorrow. We'll see how he's feeling. You know, like we say, we're a health first organization here on the podcast, and we'd like him to feel better. So we'll let you know.

But either way, we hope he is feeling better and convalesing in his way. And we hope that Bobby has a fantastic day as well. Bobby, thanks again for sitting in with us. As I always say, anytime. Thanks, everybody for listening. We'll be back tomorrow. Bye now. Thanks for listening.

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