The Morning Stream - TMS 3030: Basically Lube

Episode Date: July 1, 2026

Up your axel with Dunaway. Oops, All Buttholes! Everything's a Musical now. Femergy. Chucking a flapper. Tuberculosis is my favorite. LOOK, A GIRL! Moisturize me!! Geriatric mother stock. Gimme a 243 with Extra Sparkle. Yes and vibe. Dirty feet run in family. Soup of Theseus. Beliefs with Old Man Merrit. Hornets are much worse than BEEEEEES and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.VIDEO: https://youtu.be/dHUmLPGfy2E  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A tree takes a really long time to grow. So does a daily podcast. Help it grow by watering us with your support at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, up your axle with Dunaway. Oops, all buttholes. Everything's a musical now. Femmergy. Chucking a flapper.

Tuberculosis is my favorite. Look, a girl! Moisturize me. Geriatric motherstock. Give me a 243 with extra sparkle. Yes, and vibe. Dirty feet run in the family. Family.

Superfeasius. Beliefs with old man merit. Hornets are much worse than bees. And more on this episode of the Morning Stream. If you can't fly continental, you might as well not fly. If you can't fly continental, we'll miss you in the sky. If you can't fly continental, who will treat you the way we do? If you can't fly continental.

We're going to work that time for you if you can't fly continental. Try to have a nice trip anyway. I'm a big boy. I'm a real big boy. The morning stream. The whole damn shelf is breaking off. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for Wednesday, July 1st, 2000, 26. I am Scott Johnson joining me today covering for a still ill, still convalescing Brian a bit.

Amy Robinson. Amy, hello. Oh, hello. Good morning. Listen to that, you guys. There's a girl on the show. Can you believe it? A girl.

I saw a girl on the show. I mean, we get Amy every month, but, you know, it's kind of a dude fest on the daily. And it's nice once in a while. I get some more female voices on the show. So I'm actually... It's some feminine energy in here. Yeah. Amy reached out to me.

yesterday and said, hey, if Brian's still out, just, I'm available if you need anyone. And I said, I said, okay, cool. So I locked it in. And then I talked to Brian. He says, I'm pretty sure I'll be about 70% tomorrow. I said, okay, cool. So we just kind of were going to let it ride, see what happened. And then this morning, apparently, it was not a good night for Brian. His cold has not been kind to him. Honestly, I think part of this is like, you do that MS-150 thing. And you run yourself just ragged. So like all your, the intensity of your overall body's ecosystem for a day and a half is just so on fire. And then when you let, when that ends, it's like you just like open up the goal to the ball coming in and you're going to get it. And he got the ball right in the face. There's like 10 metaphors in there. Yeah. No, but I got it. It's like he overclocked.

Yeah. There you go. Overclock your body. And then, yeah, for sure. I like to think that Logan, he left here. Logan, Utah, gave him a little something extra when he left. And I don't know who it was or who patient zero was, but somebody here said,

hey, Colorado, we've heard you. Here's a disease habit and take it home to you. Is it something like a cold or is it just like his throat is all icky from the smoke? It sounds like a combination of things. I think he's got, I think it's both though. I think it's just exacerbated by the smoke. And it's a little bit like what I did to my voice at Nurtacular because I was already sick coming into it. I had gotten over it, but then my voice was already kind of haggard.

And then I just wrecked it talking and doing stuff. And it took days for that to go away. Oh, same. I was convinced, actually, when we were at Drag Brunch, I was starting to feel like not great. And I was like, it was just my throat was just on fire. And I was convinced that I had caught, you know, the Concrud. But no, as soon as we landed in Atlanta, and, you know, they start depressurizing the cabin. You can literally see the vapor coming in. Yeah, the moisture returns. Uh-huh. And I was like, I was like that character from Doctor Who, you know, was like,

moisturize me. Yeah. You know, and I mean, honestly, within like half an hour, my throat was like, oh, we're fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. We are a very dry climate.

I don't know how people who live in the South make it here at all. I don't know how my wife survived the, you know, 30 years she's lived here after Mississippi because she still basically daily baths in like moisturizer just to just to keep the cracked skin at bay you know but I'm used to it I don't even use chapstick I'm a desert creature I'm a lizard on a rock man don't not me I always have have my lip balm handy well it's probably smart three different kinds in my purse at all times and I yeah you're a fellow Gen X or did you grow up with that whole like everybody had to have CarMax in their car in their uh in their pocket. Do you remember that stuff? So yeah, I remember like car mix really like they it was marketed as like a cure for cold sores, but really what it did was highlight your cold source. Yeah. It makes them shiny. Yeah. It was like a video game where you'd highlight their red glowy spot on a boss where you're supposed to shoot him. It was like that. But my friends and I, we all thought it was there was a moment there where it was actually you were not cool if you didn't have a little circular, you know, container of that in your pants and your pants. And you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh, uh, and you. And you. Uh, uh, and you. Uh, and you. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh.

You carried it everywhere. You took it to school and you were always pulling it out and putting that stuff on your lips. Put your finger on it and just go, you know. Yeah. Yeah. That and bonaca. That was a thing for a hot minute. Little breath spray stuff.

Oh, yeah. We never had that really. But yeah, I'm familiar with such. Yeah. I've had that stuff before. It tastes horrible. It's pretty bad. It is awful.

Pretty bad. Well, I'm glad you're here. No puppets, everybody. Just Amy. Yeah. I mean, if you really want a puppet, I have them within arm's reach, but, you know. Your husband didn't even know you were going to be here. I know.

He was shocked. It was great. I got a text from him right as we were getting going. And he's like, you're on TMS? Yeah. I love that. That's like walking into a airport and seeing your, I don't know, your wife on the news, sort of. We don't have that reach.

But you know what I mean? It's that feeling. That would be disturbing, I think. It would be very disturbing. I don't think I would handle it. very well, to be honest. Guys, I got a follow-up from yesterday. I'd like to share with you fine folks at home.

We got this email or a text pretty quickly after we did the show, and it was about my trip to the pedicurist. Is that what they call them? Nail salon. Whatever. Nail tech. Nail tech. The nail people.

Anyway, I went there and had a great time, and I talked about it yesterday and got a little bit into it. Well, this follow-up came from someone named Trash Mother. Love that name. Not a patron. I tried to see if they were, but Trash Mother wrote in. It says, Scott, dot, dot, dot, I can't let this go. You went to a nail salon and got a pedicure and did not get your toenails painted. Or I'm sorry, did not get your toenails painted?

With four question works. What is even going on, says Trash Mother. Well, all right. I'll tell you the truth. They passed around this big chart. It wasn't even a chart. It was like a 3D sample. block and on it was every single nail color and every single nail type. So like the gel type that you're,

you know, you're actually getting nails and they're permanent-ish and then the colors that you would do them and then just the colors you could do them and like everything and like every possible option all lay down on this big chart. And somebody had meticulously gone through. It just put one physical nail for every color or every design and just did this thing, which I guess is normal at these places. It's how people pick what they want. And they had numbers associated with it. It's like, oh, yeah, I'll take the 243 and let's add a little sparkle to it or whatever.

I don't know how this stuff works. Sure. So they're passing that around and I had it for a second. And I went, ooh, if I'm doing this, what would the kids laugh at? Like, let's think about something stupid. Let's go with this. Let's go black or like super goth black or something. And so I handed it back.

And then in every single case except my lady, the people asked, are you doing nails or color? And my wife said, yep, not the gel, but let's do the color of this. Her brother did this, whatever. He said, no, I just want clear. His wife got red or something, whatever. My lady never asked me. So I wasn't going to go, excuse me, I think you've forgotten to ask me which color I'd like.

Like, she just assumed, maybe I just look like this guy that would think this. But she's just assumed from my RBF that I wasn't interested in. having any nails. I'm too much of a man in there or something. I don't know. So that's the answer. I just, I was not given the opportunity and I didn't press the matter, you know? Chuck has gotten his, his toenails done a few times, actually. We've done that. We've gone with our daughter. We did a thing for the Joko cruise where they have an event on that cruise called dress night, where, or rather dress party.

And it was not required, but it was strongly encouraged for you to wear a dress, no matter your gender. Just everybody come wear a dress. Did Chuck wear a dress? And he did. And like we did this twice, actually. No, three times, three times. So the first time we just grabbed kind of, you know, just a cute 50s style dress, you know. And it was like, I was cute.

And then the second year, he was like, okay, I'm really, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to really do it. And he got this purple, like long gown kind of thing, you know. And so he got his, and he had like strappy sandals. And so he got his toes done for that. The third year, he went all out. Oh, my gosh. And he had a, like this silvery flapper dress with a wig and the little headband and everything. It was fantastic.

You don't have photos handy of this anywhere, do you? I do. I do. I'll be glad to send you some photos. I don't think I can read. readily pull them up. No, just whenever you get a chance, the idea of chucking a dress is something I need to explore. He was the bell of the ball too in that flapper dress.

Let me tell you. They have, you know, they always have like a little highlight reel, you know, for encouraging people to sign up for the next year or whatever the stuff they put on the internet to, you know, the ads. Yeah, he's on that year's highlight reel.

Yeah. That's good. That's good. He always ends up getting on those kinds of things and he also gets kissed by drag queens. I think that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And he has some kind of energy that just tells the drag queens that, you know, he's safe. You know, he's like he's not going to, he's not going to be upset or anything. Because he kind of looks like a safety inspector from somewhere.

And he's like a little kind of a fish out of water a little bit. Like it doesn't necessarily strike you. When you see him, you don't go, oh, yeah, a regular at the drag brunch. Like he's just not that vibe. So he probably just got the most like, I'm down for whatever vibe to him. Yeah. Fish out of water,

but down for the down for being on land. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he's like, he's got a very yes and kind of vibe to him where it's like, yeah, I, whatever.

Throw me in and I'll, I'll, I'll swim. Yeah. As long as that was the drag, can I ask a question that maybe he hasn't answered and maybe it's okay if you don't want to answer it. But was that drag,

drag queen a good like did you walk did he walk away going that was a good kiss like they know what they're doing I think he was more shocked in anything he was like that queen just full on kiss me on the lips and I was like really it's a little shocking you don't go in

expecting that kind of direct contact you know yeah it was wild yeah that's great but he wasn't offended or anything he just thought it was really funny well I agree I think it was extremely funny so Chuck keep getting kissed by strangers. I love it.

Guys, we've heard you. I've got to quit doing that. We have, we're going to bring Dunaway in here, I believe. Oh, he's not in yet. Let's see if he, hopefully he doesn't think we're not doing this because of the arrangement. Oh, because Brian. I'll say you coming? I forgot to check with him last night.

It's a lot to manage, guys. Oh, no, he just hopped in. All right, here we go. Let's do this. Let's have, let's go. Let's try this. All right, here we go. Oh, that's quiet.

Let's turn that up. There you go. There you go. Yeah, that music can mean only one thing. Mr. Brian Dunaway has joined us on the line. Hello, Mr. Brian Dunaway. Oh, hi. He's gotten, Amy.

Oh, Amy. Oh, hey. Hi, Brian. How are you? Haven't seen you two together since, what, two and a half weeks ago when you shared a stage. Oh, is that right? Yeah, we did. We did share a stage.

And we also shared chicken candy. Yeah. Oh, ho. Yeah. Never forget. That was repulsive. There should be some kind of, I don't know, some kind of a threshold for calling something candy. For whatever reason, I felt like if it had been beef, like roast beef flavored, it would have been better.

Beef is worse for candy. And that's a weird thing to say, though, that beef would have been better, but I still say that that chicken stuff was just about the worst thing I've ever tasted in my life. If you did, if you hand it to me and said, here, here's our new beef bion for your soup. Here you go. I'd be like, oh, cool, this is good. Yeah. It's kind of sweet. And if I'm not mistaken, well, Joy just said it in the chat, like half the frontal part of the audience.

So if you were in the first couple of rows, incoming. You smelled it. It was bad. Like, who does that to themselves ever? Why is that even manufactured? What does that factory smell like? It was like we had a splash zone, but for smell. Oh, so bad, dude.

Yeah, it was like a Gallagher concert, but vapors. With the vapors. We had a case of the vapors. Right, right, right. The chicken vapors. All right. Hey, we're going to do something a little different with Brian being out. Oh, hey. Oh, hey. Amy has made a contest for us.

But before we get to it, I'm going to tell you what players we're playing for because we're still doing that. And I'll tell you right up front what the winner gets and what the runner up gets. So we... The patron. Yeah, exactly. We have two patrons. One of them's name is very weird, but this is literally what they're in. They're registered as this name on our Patreon.

This person's name is... So it's on you. Yeah, it's on them, not me. Absorbable sexual arousant. Okay, okay. A sponge. Is that what that is? No.

I don't know. I don't think that's an arousant. Is it? No. Absorbable. No. So a sponge is absorbent. So absorbable.

Like that's the thing that being absorbed. Oh, I got you. Yeah. Oh, now I'm just grossed. Now we're just grossed out. Yeah. It's basically just like, you know, lube. Yeah.

I think you might be right. This is just this person's name is Lou. Thank you for putting the fine point on it. This person's name is Lou. I love it. All right. Well, Loub, you're going up against Annie Cast.

Excuse me, Annie Cast, A-N-I-C-A-D-S-T. Man, I'm all bursue all of a sudden. That's what happens when I talk about absorbable sexual arousance. The runner-up, or sorry, our main winner is going to win Bloodstained Night, Ritual of the Night, fantastic side-scrolling game by the original. original,

um, uh, uh, Castlevania dudes who made that PlayStation 1 game. And the witness, uh, award winning puzzle, first person puzzle game by that dude that made braid.

His name is Jonathan Blow. I know a lot of things about that game. Uh, the runner up, whoever gets, say you knew a lot about Jonathan Blow. Okay. I was sake for that taking that lift.

Actually, I kind of do know a lot about him too, but, uh, runner up gets super hot. Super hot. If you know what? Also, yeah,

game's amazing. If you haven't played super hot, you're in for a treat. And someone's going to win these codes, but we have to play the game. Amy has prepared some sort of retro contest for you and I. We'll see how this goes. How do you want to do this? Do we take turns, or what do you think? What do you want to do?

Yeah, I think we'll take turns, and then I'll give you guys the opportunity to steal. You know, it's just going to be very simple, just some retro movie trivia questions. Nice. Retro movie trivia questions. Yes. I'm into it. And, yeah, so let's see. Brian, go ahead and pick a number between one and 20.

Two. Oh, two. Okay. That's close enough. I picked three, so I think that's pretty close. So we'll let you go first. Wow. I don't like my chances suddenly.

Jeez. Oh, it'll be okay. All right. Some of these are right in your... My wheelhouse is they? say? Your wheel hole. Yeah, my wheel hole.

My wheel spike. No, my axle. Right up my axle. There you go. I don't want to know what goes up your axle. All right. So Brian. Yes.

So first question. John Hurt starred as Winston Smith and Richard Burton as the Sinister O'Brien in what literary adaptation which came out, as was appropriate, in the mid-1980s. I don't know.

Yeah, you just said a bunch of stuff that didn't. There's a lot of things in there. Yeah, didn't click a single will in my wheelhouse. So it was a book. It was a book that was adapted to a movie. Okay, so it was a book. Gee, I can't think of any movies that were based on books. But how about it was in the 80s?

Yes. Came out in the 80s. Charlotte's Web, I don't know. Incurs. Well, that's a shame. Scott, would you like to steal? Yeah. Can you give me the full question one more time?

Yes. John Hurt starred as Winston Smith and Richard Burton as the Sinister O'Brien. In what literary adaptation which came out, as was appropriate in the mid-1980s? Oh. I mean, was there an adaptation of Orwell's? 1984 was it that that's probably because how appropriate she just she just say how appropriate

it was the end part that I missed that was the greatest clue okay I didn't know I didn't know John Hurt was in that I had no idea I love John Hurt, big fan yeah I do too if you've never seen the movie The Doctor with him it's really good I like I mean he's great an alien

because he's the first one to get a chest buster so that's fun and then he's Hellboy's whatever you call it. He's like his Gandalf. I always think of him as the storyteller because he was on the Jim Henson's storyteller. Oh, yeah.

He was great on that. Somebody else, who was the other one that did it for a while, too? There were two. Oh, yeah. I didn't like the other guy. The other guy was someone famous, but no one liked him. Yeah. He just wasn't as good as John Hurd.

Totally forgettable, apparently. Was he Michael Gambone, the second, Dumbledore maybe. It might have been. It might have been, yeah. The other Dumbledore. Maybe that guys just made a whole career out of like, you know, coming and stepping into a role that somebody else already established. Yeah.

So, all right. Next question. This one's for Scott. Okay. After seeing her stage show, author Alice Walker personally chose Whoopi Goldberg for the role of Seeley in what 1985 literary adaptation that got a 2023

musical movie version. Whoa. Oh my gosh, dude. What year? 84, you said? What was the year? 1985. 85.

85. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. I'm going to say, oh, thanks, babe. A musical. That's wrong. The musical didn't come about until 2023.

Yeah, and that's the part. It's not ringing a bell that I even know what or when that happened. Just assume every 80s movie has a musical now. Like, that's what they're doing. Everything's becoming a musical. I don't know why, but that's what's happening. I'm going to say, I don't think this is true, but I'll just say it. I think it's, there's no way it's the sister act.

I've been to say, oh, there you go. Incorrect. Shit. That's the only thing that came in line. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, Cisteractor first, and I was like, no, that was 90s, because that was just on the 90s channel I got on the freaking stream of service that is. Only the other thing I could think of during the 80s,

Killer Purple? Correct. What? Yeah. How did they make that a musical? Racial. Any quality. All right.

You got it. I thought it was strange, too, but I've actually seen the stage show of the musical, the color purple. It was pretty good. Wow. But that's my first thought, too, was sister act. And I was thinking, no, it's too late. Yeah, why did I think sister act was? I didn't see sister act in high school.

That's what I was thinking. I also, I don't know why in my head I was accepting this idea that sister act was a book, a famous book. Yeah, yeah. Actually, that's what I was thinking, too. That's so dumb. I promise these aren't all literary adaptations, but, you know, several of them are, but not all of them. Just front-loading a couple of them. It's fine.

80%. All right. We're currently tied, by the way. Yes. All right. So, Brian, this one is for you. Give me it. Which 1987 war drama directed by Stanley Kubrick starred Matthew Modine as Joker Davis and Vincent Donofrio as Homer Pyle Lawrence.

young Marines during the Vietnam War. Gomer. Was his name Gomer Pyle? Is that right? His name was Gomer Pyle Lawrence, apparently. I don't remember that part. But, you know, ignore the parts that don't make sense. And still have a guess, you know?

Is it the full metal jacket? It is the full. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Easy. That was actually an easy one. Yeah. Thank you for giving me finally an easy one, because those first two were.

Yeah, there's a few. There's a, there's a very, varying difficulty level. Private Pile, something, something private pile. I just hear him yelling at it. I didn't know it was Gomer. That's great. Yeah. That's great. And Vincent Ninoffrio also is Gomer. That's kind of weird. He was really good in that. And it was kind of his first, it was his breakout thing. It's, it haunted me. That movie still to this day. That movie. Yeah. Every time I watch it, it upsets me. And when he's, the scene, I don't want to spoil anything, but anyone hasn't seen. It came out in 87.

been a long time, but the scene in the bathroom with the shotgun. Oh, yeah, terrifying. Good Lord. I never got over it. That freaked out. Yeah, no, no, right?

Never got over it. I was never really, I don't want to say aloud, but I was discouraged from watching Vietnam War movies because my stepdad was a Vietnam veteran, is a Vietnam veteran.

And it's those movies that gave me, like real actual anxiety about being in my 20s when the Gulf War was happening. Right. And being of age for like a draft or something. And no knowledge of current military things freaked me out. What freaked me out was things like full metal jacket and platoon and shit like that. It just stays with you, man. I don't like it.

Thanks a lot, Vietnam. You really messed with us. Yeah, I know. Vietnam and taking down later generations as well. It's the word that kept on giving. The good news is those guys have amazing nail technology for your feet in your hands. I'll tell you that. Anyway.

Oh, goodness. All right. Let's see. Okay, so Scott, this one's for you. Before Denis Villeneuve's 2021 mega hit adaptation of Dune, there was the 1984 box office bust starring Kyle McLaughlin, directed by whom. Oh, that's...

That's... I thought it was going. Oh. That's... Wait, whose turn is it? Mine? Yours. It is your turn.

It's all you, baby. Well, that's David Lynch. It is. Good job. Good pull. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look at him doing a bad movie and then wanting his name taken off. He was pissed. Can you take my name off that, please? Please take my name off the film. That's my impression of him. Right there.

It's beautiful. You did a thing. You did it. Good job, Johnson. All right. So, Brian, this one's for you. What 1985 teen comedy features a dream sequence starring dancing hamburgers and French fries

filmed using stop motion animation. I know this one. Oh, I don't. Dancing hamburger. Wait, wait, dancing hamburger and fries. What? Yeah, I know this one. Why don't I know this?

It was a Van Halen song was playing. Wow. How do I not know this? This is going to be one of those things I'm going to have to have TVs. Travis made me watch probably because I don't know that reference. How about I will go with Ghostbusters? No, totally not. Still, why not?

Definitely not Ghostbusters, but I can steal this and say Better Off Dead. You are correct. What? I watched Better Off Dead. How do I not recall? It's the most. That's the thing I remember the most. There's hardly anything else I remember about Better Off Dead.

The thing I remember almost entirely is that stop motion sequence. I haven't seen it since, like, back in the 80s probably. So maybe I just completely forgotten it. We should do that. That's one that's, uh, it's comedy adjacent, but it's one that we probably could sack. I think there's enough there we could sack it. We should do that. Yeah.

Yeah. I thought I remember the, the rampant racism. I don't remember much about the other. The dancing, singing food. You don't remember that? No. I remember they're like, oh, it's a. shame when people be thrown away a perfectly good white boy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just remember a booger was in it from... Yep. Bougar. And apparently, like, the big sport of their high school was skiing. Yeah, yeah. How do I remember that, but not a freaking dance in a ween?

There was a little bit of that where I grew up, but it was a, it was, that movie made it seem like, wow, that's the main thing. Like, it's either football, soccer, or in some places it's golf. or whatever, but the fact that a school would have primarily skiing as their main sport is a crazy idea. It is weird. Whatever.

All right. So I believe, Scott, you stole that one, so now it's your turn. Yep. Okay. According to the title of a 1989 movie directed by Oliver Stone, on what date was the main character born? Born on the 4th of July. Dang it! Correct.

Tom Cruise in that one. Tommy Cruz. How appropriate this week. I'll rip from the headlines. Right. Yep. What? I figured I was like through that one in because it's the fourth of July coming up.

I thought Tom Cruise did something I hadn't heard of. Yeah. Yeah. He's celebrating the fourth. Yeah. He's really drunk. Gets drunk, sits in a wheelchair, and yells at people. Yeah.

I love it. Is that counts a Vietnam movie? That was disturbing. That one definitely counts as a Vietnam movie. Yeah. Yeah. It was dark. It was dark.

All right. All right. Brian, what pizza restaurant? I get dancing. Wiener. I'm sorry, go ahead. I mean, would you like one? What pizza restaurant located on Main Street in its namesate, Connecticut Town, was also the name of a 1988 romantic comedy directed by Donald Petrie. I had it right in my head, and then just like, it vaporized.

Holy crap. Wait. I know I can see his Marco's pizza in my head. I know it's not that. Stop. It's not Marco's pizza. Wait, wait, no. I know this one.

Tagov it. Oh. Ooh, I can't remember. Marco's pizza. It's Marco's pizza. Incorrect. I just had to steal. I'm going to say that's mystic pizza.

Dang it. Correct. All right. Dang it. I've eaten there. It's good. It's close though, right? They both have, yeah, Marco and Miss.

Kind of similar number of letters. Same first letter, yeah. I don't know. Sometimes your brain just does that. You just get stuck and there's no getting it back out. Plus, I really like Marco's pizza. So shout out to them. I like their pizza.

It's good. There you go. When it's hot, once it gets cold, Marco's pizza is one of the worst ones. But while it's hot, I don't know what that means. It's probably terrible for you or something, but hot, hot, melty Marco's pizza. I should, I will tell you,

if you have left over. pizza and you want to reheat it, don't microwave it. Do yourself a favor and put it in the oven at 400 for like, you know, five to 10 minutes and it comes out nice and crispy on the bottom. All pizza is better when you put it in a toaster oven or a oven or somehow a convection style oven and you do it. Otherwise you get rubber pizza. Yeah, forget it. Pizza rolls too, all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Unless they come with those nice aluminum things that you stick them on, you know, like you put in the microwave. It's got the aluminum tray inside of it. Whatever that magic is. Yeah, whatever that is. How does that avoid all the sparks and the problems? I don't know, but it works. It's not probably aluminum. It's probably some kind of painted paper that gives you cancer.

It's magic. Cancer-causing paper agent. Mm-hmm. Cancer pizza. Delicious, delicious, cancer. All right. I'm realizing from the time that I put way too many questions in here. Oh, that's okay. We're going to just like, we're going to speed down to the bottom here. See why?

All right. See why Ibit has to give us timers? Go ahead. That's right. Let's do one last one. See if we can give Brian another shot here at a point. Yes. All right.

So wait, no, that was Brian's. Oh, it's my turn again. It's your turn. That's right. This last one's worth 50 points. All right, go ahead. As Air Force Colonel Chappie Sinclair, Lewis Gossett Jr. helps a teen gank a couple of F-16s for a...

Destin Rescue Mission and what definitely not Top Gun 1986 movie. Why, that would be Iron Eagle. Oh, you bastard. Correct. 50 points. I got 50 points. All right. You know what that means? I'm doing the math here. One, two, three, four, five, six to two. I'd beat you six to two.

Nice. If you just got three, if it was six, three, it'd be my height. It doesn't have nothing to do with nothing. But that means that we have a winner. Congratulations. Our winner is absorbable. sexual arousant. I just wanted you to say it again.

I threw the whole thing just so you could do that. I wondered about that. Brian, you may have lost, but our winner still gets super hot. That will go out to Anna Kast. And if you're both just paying attention to your private messages over on Patreon,

that is where you'll see these pops. So watch for those showing up here shortly today. Brian Dunaway and I getting together tonight at 4 p.m. Mountain time. And we're doing play retro. And then we roll right. We're doing devil may cry. I should mention that for play retro.

Yep, yep. And then we roll right into watch retro right after that. It's a night of entertainment. And don't forget about the pre-show, because we're going to talk about the 50th anniversary of the Bicentennial. Who was alive in 1976? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, baby, I was.

I was there. I was six, but I was there. I was zero. I was born in 1976. Whoa, you were born on our nation's 200th birthday. I'm going to start calling you Freedom, Amy. Who knew how? Picentennial baby.

Who knew how weird it would be to celebrate the 50th version or the 250th version of it? Anyway, we'll get to all that a little bit later. Brian Dunaway, one last thing. Kiss our butts. All right, he's out. Bye. Got him. All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, gather around because now is your chance to hear something technical. And we'll do that now. Isn't technology wonderful? It can be, but only when Tom Merritt's involved. Tom Merritt, welcome to the program, sir. Thank you for having me. How are you? Doing good. How are you, sir? Beep, boop, beep. I am not a robot.

Oh, good, because we've had enough of those lately. Here, I'll prove it momentarily. Oh, yep. This is his flesh and blood visage. Are you going to identify a bus? There is. That is a motorcycle. That reminds me of something. I still say this, and I know this isn't part of today's question, but I'm going to die on this hill.

I think the worst, people have a lot of opinions about what they think the worst part of the proliferation of Gen A.I. is in modern society. Whether it's like, oh, these crappy, sloppy images or bots yelling each other online or whatever their reasons are, all of them have merit. Oh, see what I did. But for me, it's the false positives. It's the ones that are real that then people now have a plausible out to say, no, that somebody made that. It's a lot like the Photoshop days, except a little more intense. That's the hill I'm dying on right there.

False posits are worse than fakes. My grandpa, who was born in 1882, said, I don't believe anything I read and only half of what I see. There you go. And that was before Photoshop. Yep. He died in the 50s. A long time before Photoshop.

Yeah, and you know what? He was right. I like old man merits stance. I'm going to integrate it more in my life. Tom Merritt is always a pleasure to have you here. I know you've had a whirlwind couple of weeks. You went right from Nerdtacular to Austin to, I don't know what else. Yeah, I'm about to head to London on Sunday.

Oh, that's right. You're doing a meetup and stuff, right? Yeah, doing a meetup in London on July 9th and one in Munich on July 10th. Damn. It's a world tour. What takes you to these far-flung regions of our... BTS concerts are taking me to Europe. Well, that's good.

That means you and Eileen are going together, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We are world hopping, globe hopping. Yep. You guys wanted advice on how to keep the marriage together. There's a bunch of ways we could give you advice, but one of them is attend all the BTS concerts around the world. I mean, honestly, going to concerts together is one of the most fun things we do. Yeah. I can tell from a distance. That's fantastic. I look forward to stories from that whole time, but today we're going to settle in with a question we got from a listener named Grendel's horse. Yeah, what do you think of that? But earlier we got a text from someone named Trash Mother, so now we're talking to Grendel's horse. Grendel's horse says this. Grendel's horse doesn't get enough attention, so thank you. I agree.

Grendel's getting all this. Everybody's talking about Grendel. Yeah, what about his horse? Anyway, here's how the email goes. This is a tech question, of course. That's what we like to field here on the show. It says, I have a question for Tom. I just heard about Anthropics Clawed science announcement.

They say it's a AI, and this is a, kind of a subquote, an AI workbench that gives scientists one environment to do computational research, sparing them the hassle of bouncing between databases, pipelines, and tools, unquote. Personally, I like this idea, and I hope we see more model development in these kinds of specific areas. The question for Tom is this. Is this just branding to get people excited about new things in AI, or is anthropic tapping into use cases we actually need or want? Thanks and hope to hear this on the show, says Grendel's horse. Thank you.

Thank you, Grendel's horse. All right. Well, Grendel's horse, we heard you. Brian, Tom is now going to tell us the answer to this. Well, the good news is I don't think that Claude Science is just horse hockey. There's something to it. It is not a model change. It is using the same clawed models that you can use right now.

So there's nothing new about how it works under the hood. the probably closest comparison that anybody listening might have is to something like ClaudeCode or if you're in the OpenAI world Codex where you have an interface you have a tool that says hey instead of just a chat window

like you get when you go to chat GPT.com let's give you the ability to access your GitHub and all of the things you need to code in one place and I the agent will be able to make use of those. And it's a little more beneficial because it's got access to your hard drive because it's running locally. And so it's able to coordinate all of the resources you have and make it easier to

use them. It's more than just an interface, but that's probably the better way to think about it. It's not a new model. It's a new interface. And Claude Science is that for science. It's saying, hey, we know you have a lot of tools at your disposal, a lot of databases that you need to access. We're going to make it easy to access all of those and query all of those and give you information you need faster. And I think probably one of the more important aspects of cloud science is that it is focusing on keeping a good record of what you asked, what you got, and how you changed it for reproducibility reasons. So that someone else could come in and go, well, I need to do the same thing if I'm going to reproduce your results. So how did you get that? And also to be able to fact check.

interestingly clod science has a fact checker but i've seen a lot of criticism like yeah i mean the model's checking itself it's likely to catch some things but maybe you know not everything so don't rely on it for everything that's not a bad thing to have as a you know first line of defense uh so yeah i think i think this is more than just marketing but it it is not it is not what i like the best which is something very focused and trained on your work it's still using the general purpose clause underneath. Oh yeah, that's a good point. That's kind of what I, where I was hoping this conversation would go, because in comparison to what other models are doing, and by that, I mean like Open AIs and Gemini from Google and everybody else, like the big names in public AI access, LLMs and whatnot. This feels a little more general than I would like it to be. And by that, I just mean, like you're saying, like having something on device, on machine specific to what you, do or if it's we're talking an industry specific to that industry. Yeah, yeah.

And not kind of a catch-all. And that's why they said kind of- It still can run locally in your enterprise and stuff. So it does bring that aspect of it. But the model underneath is still a general purpose model that is prone to occasional hallucinations, not as badly as when it was telling you, you know, to put rocks on pizza back of the day. You know, they've gotten a lot better since then.

But still something you have to guard against. OpenAI has one that is specific to biology trained on biological materials. That is much less likely to hallucinate. It's still going to hallucinate sometimes, too. Don't get me wrong. But it is trained on biology. That, of course, is more limited because if you're not a biologist, then you're like, great, call me when they do chemistry, because that's what I do.

Right. But I like that approach better. In fact, this weekend, DTNS interview with Tanner. Stringen is going to be out. And he's updating us on the Twitter. that he uses at the nuclear power plant he works at. And what's cool about that is it was trained just on their materials, right? And that's the kind of approach I think in these situations will work better. Not that I'm not saying cloud science is bad. It's not. But but it isn't as good as if it

were specialized. Yeah. Speaking of that, this is not giving anything away. I was told by him, but I'm going to show Tanner's one of his workspaces. And that looks like a, it looks like a chore core video game to me where I need to know everything. Everything's on the line. This place is going to explode if I don't pull the right lever at the right exact moment. It actually gave me anxiety to look at this image. Whereas I immediately visualized, you know, Tanner in the Simpsons universe working at Homer's plant. I'm sure. And we mean no negative connotation toward Tanner. No, yeah, no, Tanner would be an Excellent employee. You would not be able.

The reality is somewhere in between your two visions. I feel. It's a good way of putting it. Well, it's interesting. I don't, the more, do you think this gives them many? What is the specific, I don't know why I always have to look at it from these eyeballs,

but I always want to think about what's the specific competitive advantage that suddenly gives Claude or does it at all? Like I get so wound up and like, oh, they're one up in each other all the time. Who's winning between Open AI and Claude and Google? Yeah, well, it is a, a more widely appealing tool, right? So again, if I'm not a biologist,

OpenAI doesn't have something for me in this space, but Claude does. They may not be as specialized, but it's helpful, you know, and it's going to be able to tie in all my databases and stuff and speed up my work and make things easier to access, maybe making some images and models, models in this case,

meaning like protein models or something easier to do. Google has the advantage of OG, deep mind protein folding programs that were specifically designed to discover new things. And in fact, Claude Science can call on those. So it can work in tandem with that kind of thing. I don't think it's a question of, well, now Claude's ahead or Claude's behind. It's more like, oh, Claude picked a different lane to go down first. It feels like they've always kind of, their vibe is that.

they are picking a different lane. That's always, like even just from a purely graphic design standpoint, look at all their logos. Their logo is the most like, yeah, man, freaking, let's go. Isn't it funny that if you ask any of us, what do you think of marketing? You're like, oh, it's baloney. Just tell me what's really going on.

But then we always talk about this stuff of like, oh, but Anthropic uses flowers and smiley faces. And I like that. Yeah, it's like kind of animated and kind of cute. and they make a big deal about how their logo was made by people. It works. It kind of works. Also, I don't want to freak anyone out.

This is just a side note. But I thought about this the other day. I looked at a whole grid of all the stuff, not just the big players, Anthropic and Google and Open AI, but every little LLM you've ever heard of, anybody doing anything in AI, all of their logos, including Anthropics. if you think about it too hard,

they all look like buttholes. So next time you're looking there, I'm just saying, this feels a little like a Roar Shock test. It is. You see what you want. It is. And you may actually see what you want

or what your brain, you know, where you default to. I think they're a bunch of buttholes. They look like a bunch of butt holes. Every one of them. Little swirly buttholes. Anyway, enough about buttholes. Tom Merritt, this is very interesting stuff

and as always, but enough about me. Some people are like, hey, if I ride in, does it have to be a question about AI? You sure get a lot of those. No, it can be about anything around the tech. Isn't it funny, though? Everybody's like, I'm tired to hear an AI, but I have a question about AI. Yeah, yeah, an AI question. I mean, there's no way to sort of avoid its overarching influence on the discussion right now. So we get it if you've got one and it's okay if you do. Like, the questions we get from you guys so far have been very interesting in this space. It's not just simply like, is AI bad?

I mean, no one's asking that. No, these have been excellent questions. Yeah, I agree. So keep them coming. In the meantime, Tom Merritt's up to all kinds of stuff over there. What do you got going on right now you'd like to mention? Yeah, well, we kind of mentioned it earlier. The meetups, if you're in Europe, will be on July 9th at the Cross Keys Pub, Grace Church Street in London at 3.30 p.m.

And then July 10th, I'm flying to Munich. and then we will be meeting at the Motel 1 bar in Munich. Details at patreon.com slash DTNS. And that will be at 6.30 p.m. So July 9th, July 10th, if you're able to come out, say hi, take a hand, talk about tech, whatever you want to do, meet some other listeners. I know we've got a handful of people coming to both places. It's not a specially booked situation in either case. one is a weather spoons.

You will get to see Zoe brings bacon and R.W. Nash. Oh my gosh. If you go to the London one. And some great folks meeting up with us in Munich as well. So come on out. Yeah, get out there. Watch out for the Germans, though. They started two World Wars.

I don't know if you know that, but two of them. And they love it when you bring it up. Yeah, they really do. Don't mention the wars we learned in... I think Germany is saddest right now about the World Cup. Yeah, probably. a little bit. So I won't bring that up either. No. Not while

you're there anyway. So, technology. Yeah, technology. Yeah, you guys want to talk AI? Hey, Tom Merritt, it's always a pleasure. Have a fantastic week. Everybody listens. Oh, the other thing, I don't know if you even knew this, but... No, you know, I'm an idiot. The biggest thing that I should be telling...

Just what you want from your tech correspondent. The biggest thing I should be telling people is that we have brand new Patreon tiers for the first time in like almost 10 years. Oh, my gosh. So there's there's all new stuff, new perks, especially at the higher levels, which I don't feel like we ever really did a good enough job thanking people for supporting at those upper levels. So we've got like a producers room show and we're going to do hangouts called The Progress Bar. We can all sip a drink, alcoholic or non-alcoholic, whatever you want and hang out online.

So check out all the new perks at patreon.com slash DTS. And check out that new show during Experiment Week from Dr. Nicky and from Gwen that. They were on yesterday. We did a little preview or just had a conversation about what they're working on. Experiment Week starts Monday. And in honor of Experiment Week with that great show, Patrick Norton has a show. Roger has a couple of shows. Amos and Hammond have a show about producing.

That's all coming next week on DT&S. And in honor of that, we're actually giving everybody 26% off of new pledges. If you're a new patron, just use the code, experiment. Nice. Experiment Week's always awesome. So go check that out. Tom Merritt is the man and he is out of here. Ace Detect on all the socials. We'll see you next time.

Grandpa Merritt. Old man, Merritt. I don't believe nothing I read and twice on Sunday. What was the saying? I already forgot the saying is great. I don't believe anything I hear and only half of what I see or something. Oh, there you go. Was that it?

That's it. I think that was it. That was pretty close. Either way, I think it was full of wisdom and we should all. take a note from yeah a healthy dose of skepticism always good oh yeah if i did anything i hope it was gave my kids uh at least a value of skeptical thinking you know yeah i tried really hard to do that and i hope it worked uh all right quick thing quick note speaking of kids can i just share something real cute real fast yeah look at that so yesterday we took romona to the park and she just for the first time ever

wasn't afraid to go down that gnarly slide. She did all by herself. Look at that confidence in that face, ours. She was pretty stoked. Oh, man. But look at those feet, dude. Look at the feet.

I know. That's the first thing I saw. It was this dirty feet. I love it. It's just like her dad, and maybe more so like her Aunt Carter, who still has the dirtiest feet you've ever seen, because she's just not a shoe person.

She just go out and hippie it around in the dirt, and that's kind of what Ramona did. But anyway, I just wanted to share that because she's a sweetie. Also, this picture I found on Reddit. This is a lady getting lit back down. That is less awesome. Yep.

Made me laugh, though. Like, out loud. I don't, these days, nothing on the internet really makes me laugh that hard anymore. That made me laugh. So, well done. See, your dogs are even laughing. I can hear them back there. I think that was my daughter.

Oh, was it? Oh, sorry. I assume any time I hear any kind of like distant sounds from your mic, I always assume it's a dog. So tell her. Well, fair enough. It was the dogs were barking at stuff earlier. mute myself. Well, it is what it is. I wanted to share a quick news story with you that just kind of made me laugh or made me think. Most of us cook food and then we eat it and then

we're done and we move on with our lives. Not this family. This family in, let's see, where is this from? They're in Taiwan. Thailand. Hold on. Where is it? Bangkok. Yep, they're in Bangkok. They have been overwatching or keeping or keeping watch over, I should say. A 52-year-old pot of soup. Look at that thing. That right there, 52 years old. And they just keep adding to it, maintaining it. It's never totally gone. And they don't want to ever have it happen.

So you know, like the Italians, they sell cheeses that are aged up to like 18, 20 years, something like that. French butcher, they give you steak sold enough to apply for driver's permit. These Chinese or the Chinese tout century eggs that are in reality preserved for a few months. but they call them century eggs. There's probably one or two that are century old. I would never put that in my mouth or anywhere near my life, but whatever. No, no. Here's what's outlived them all,

a beef broth simmering at a Thai restaurant since 1974. 52-year-old broth is four years older than its current guardian. Natapong, Kawini, Atuakawan. Pretty sure. Exactly right. Pretty sure I nailed that, yeah. You're welcome, everyone. The restaurant tour is the third generation of his family.

to run Watanah Panish Panic. I'm not sure which. Famed for its geriatric, or sorry, famed for its geriatric motherstock that forms the backbone of its signature beef noodle soup. We almost never take vacations,

he says. I can't leave the broth alone for too long. That's, look at that thing. Would you eat that broth? I'd be nervous. No, I don't think I could do it. It's weird. Like, it's too old, man.

You got to, You got to change up your broth more than 52 years, I would say. I mean, it's kind of like, what is it, Thesius's ship, right? Like, if you've, you know, if you've replaced every piece of the ship, eventually, it's not the same ship anymore, right? Yeah, or our bodies. Or is it? Yeah, it's a... Our cells regenerate so often that we're not the people we were when we were born.

Exactly. It's like that. So, I mean, I guess you could feel better about it in that regard, but I still, I don't know. I would still be kind of nervous about it. It looks sketchy. Yeah, I agree. Look at that. I just sent you a photo of one of the photos of Chuck in a dress.

Oh my gosh. Sweet. I'm trying to find the flapper one. Hold on. But, uh. Let's see. Oh, it's in Discord. Hold on. Yes. Sorry.

No, no, no, you're good. I forgot to check the right place. Okay, there it is. Oh, my gosh, dude. There's so much better than I had not thought it was going to be. Who's he with? Who is that? That is Drew Westfall, aka Scarface.

All right. He's, you know, uh, Joe Co's assistant, basically. Yeah. Yeah. That's a real, uh, that's a real look. That's a real choice. Right. Isn't that great?

Oh, Chuck. You can, you can look and see. He does, in fact, have his nails painted. I love it. Yeah, let me zoom in there on the nails. Hold on. Let's get this. Oh, yeah, you can kind of see it.

He's probably got his arm around here. That's easier. Oh, you could see his toes. Oh, look at those, dude. Oh, Chuck, the lengths you go to make sure it all happens. Fantastic. I love it. I may not have any of the flapper dress just because I actually,

I did a dumb. and I was wearing platform stilettos. And that was a stupid thing to do on a boat. And so I turned my ankle a little bit. So I had to leave the dress party a little early the year of the flapper dress. It was because the boat was rocking or is it because the floors are? Well, yeah, because it was at night. And, you know, cruise ships at night, they go faster.

I hate that, by the way. You want to go. Because if you can't sleep very well with rocky, splashy, whatever, stuff, it's awful. I hate it at night on chips. Oh, Chuck loves it though. Chuck is like the best sleep of his night, man. Best sleep of his life. It knocks him out, does it? I wish it did. I just cannot, the rhythm, I can't get my mind off of it. It doesn't, I don't get sick or anything. I just can't sleep. It's just like, especially if you're closer up to the front of the boat. And it's like, yeah, and Kim gets really sick, so she doesn't like it for that reason. Yeah, you got to stay towards,

If you do have motion sickness or sensitivity to that, the middle of the boat is usually your best bet there. But yeah, that was. And so the dress party was like the opposite of that. It was like the top deck, you know, of the boat and then, you know, not so much towards the middle. So. And there was also water because it was on one of the pool decks, you know. And so, I mean, it was just a stupid thing for me to do. but I turned my ankle, so I had to leave that party a little early. There are plenty of pictures.

I just don't have them in my camera roll, but I will find them. One day, she will find them, like the last of the Mohicans. I will provide them. I will find them no matter what occurs, she says, by the waterfall. It's a very specific reference. Hey, Talley in the chat just said something. I just want to read because it sounds, it's the most tally sounding ass thing you've ever heard in your life. Tired to these twinks thinking throwing on a dress makes them a dress.

drag queen winky face it just sounds just sounds like something she'd say and i just wanted to mention that so thank you thank you telling well that was that was definitely not what was happening with that in particular dress party it was literally just like put on a dress yeah and come hang out to it you know so um also i'm naive i thought twinks were the characters you made in world of warcraft that managed your bank and stuff didn't we call him that? I always thought it was like a like a young skinny gay boy was a twink. Well, I think it is. That's what I thought. But for what, am I thinking of the wrong term? Someone and some other wow player correct me because I, I swear we used to say I had a bank twink.

I don't know. I don't know. All right. You're going to make a, no, it's not tune. I know that. you're making another twink character low level Pimp out its gear Yeah That's what that is Right oh that's what it is

You get a character That you give a bunch of great gear to So they rush themselves To better level And better min-max But they still be called them twinks though And I always felt a little weird about it Because I also knew there was this alternate thing

You know Yeah Anyway It is what it is Guys we have an email real quick And then we will Head on Out the Door Check this one

out. Oh, got to get to the right place. This is about the jugs of pee. This is Joe and Canada wrote in. Oh, we haven't had a Canadian email in a while. Let's celebrate this proper. Canada! There we go. Canada. Joe wrote in and says, hey, senators and Bruins. That's usually for Brian, but

we'll apply it to Amy today. We'll call you the avalanche. How's that? There we go. Yeah, because these are all hockey teams. He says, about the hornet's nest in your neighbor's roof. That's my neighbor's roof next door. The NHL season is over, so I don't think your neighbor's going to be around for a little while. Plus this week is the NHL entry draft in Buffalo and that guy is definitely going to be there.

So it'll be a while before you can ask somebody, just kill the damn Hornets. It'll be fine. All right. Okay. Have you done anything about said Hornets yet? I was just yesterday sitting out there and noting how a couple of them were wafting our direction again. And I thought, I should just do this. So I think maybe this weekend or if not sooner, I'll get out there and do the 20 foot spray thing and just take care of. it. And I got to think. I even, look, he could be, how could anyone be mad that I got rid of a hornet's nest on your house? You know what I mean?

Yeah. I mean, as long as you don't damage the house in any way, right? Like, I would be mad if somebody, not mad, but I would find it a little bit irritating if somebody tried to do a nice thing like that for me, but then ended up, you know, damaging my house. somehow. Keeling paint or recommending. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, I mean, I can't, nobody wants hornets, man.

Hornets are the worst. Hornets are dicks. They are. They're absolute dicks. And unlike bees where, you know, they're self-sacrificing to try and protect their hive, no, man, hornets will just keep on stinging you. Oh, yeah. They don't care.

They are evil. They even know, they even know they're going to die with that stinger if it comes out. which is still weird to me that any of these things die because their stingers gone. I don't get it, but whatever. That seems like a cruel nature joke. It's like, hey, you're one form of defense.

We'll just talk about the lovely honeybee. You're one form of defense. The day you have to use it is the day you're going to die. What's the point of defending? Because you're going to die. It's a swarm, right? It's not to defend. Yeah.

It's not to defend the single bee. It's to defend the, the entire hive. It's all about the collective. Resistance is futile, says the bee. Yes. We will add your individual, what is it,

technological distinctiveness to our own. To our own. And then the queen will come out, put her torso on a body and freak us all out. That was awesome. I love that movie. It was great. Although you could argue some,

it created a bunch of Borg lore issues. So as much as I really like first contact, and I really like the Borg parts of it. It changed the fundamental truth about the Borg and did such a nerd topic.

I love this though. It created like hierarchical problems with what we assume the Borg was, which was this nonstop mindless collective with no individuality and no sort of mind of any

kind except a collective single-minded consume everything, destroy everything kind of thing. And it changed it. And it got weird. And you could say, well, the Hugh episode on TNG was really where it first started getting weird. Because that guy got his individuality. Certainly seven of nine on Voyager was some of that.

I don't know. Well, and I guess they had to kind of answer, right? Like, how was Picard able to be removed? Extricate himself from the collective? That was the word I was groping for. Thank you. Don't ask me how that word came to me. I'm usually dumb as rocks on here.

I know what that's about. But yeah, I mean, you know, I guess they felt like they had to answer that. Like, how was how was that possible when, you know, everybody else, it seems like it's a death sentence. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird thing. But I don't know. I like the Borg anyway. And that's where that's, that'll be the hill that we all collectively die on here on the show.

Yeah. We like the Borg anyway. We do. that is the it. That is the it. That is the show. We did the show. And a reminder that everything you need for this show is at frogpans.com slash TMS. And if you're looking for more content, check out the schedule at frogpans.com slash schedule where you will notice today at 4pm, play retro and watch retro. We'll start at that time. We'd love to have you here at the live stream. If not, we'll catch you later. Of course, patrons will get all that stuff in full. And the podcast will go out to the world.

So watch for that coming up a little bit later. I think Brian will feel better tomorrow. is usually a two-day thing. If I'm guessing, I don't know. But I'm very grateful that Amy sat in with us. Amy, thanks for doing that. We hope. We hope Brian feels better.

Thank you for having me. Yeah. I would also like to note, I think I'll check in with Brian because he's responsible for dropping our new episodes. But I believe there is a new episode of Lost Luggage dropping today. Oh, Lost fans, be ready. So where are we at now? Tell me with that episode.

Where are we at the series? Yes. Episode 9 is where we have dropped to. Of season one still? Of season one. Okay. Season one. I mean, we started recording it and then I took forever because of technical issues.

And so we've actually got, we're into season two where we're watching now. But yeah, we've only released up through episode nine of season one. That's great. And you guys are doing it an episode per episode of Lost, right? Yes. That's 24 episodes per season until you get to the weird strike season. Yeah. That's going to be interesting.

Yeah, we've already talked about that we're probably going to lump some of those in together because I don't think I can talk an entire hour about Nikki and Paolo. You know, like some of those crappy filler episodes. We'll jam all those into one. But Brian and I will discuss as the vet. veteran Lost Watchers. We'll put our heads together and figure out what to do when we get to that. That's good.

Good leadership there on what to do with Lost. I'll tell you what, the best part of the Nicky and Palo era was that Palo was played by the actor who played Xerxes on 300. He was also the very handsome man in Love Actually, who Laura Linney does not end up sleeping with. And I yell at her every Christmas. I yell at her to listen to the beautiful man. her bed and she never does. She could have slept with Xerxes, you know? Yeah. She always answers her phone

and it's very sad. More like jerksies. Something like that. Uh, that is going to do it for the show. Now you're always like saying to yourselves, well, doesn't Brian bring a little music to the end of the show? And the answer is yes, but I'm not playing a song he chose today. In fact, I brought something of my own. And it's a little bit of a cheap because it's just a thing I like. Uh, it's not, I'm not even going to get full credit here because I'm not sure who did this. It's something I found forever ago. By forever ago, I mean, the first Dune movie came out, these recent Villanou films.

And the first movie had this chanter dude who somebody made a remix and a song out of. And I just really like it. So I'm going to play it for people here today. That's just how it's going to be. I think you're all going to like it, though. So don't fret and don't worry. It's all going to be good.

But we'll be back tomorrow with more right here on TMS. Until then, enjoy. this little chant song, and we'll see you next time. Thanks for listening. The Frogpants Network lives at Frogpants.com. I'm sorry that all the men I know are such pigs.