The Morning Stream - TMS 3041: Wet Zoo Smell

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

I Like Big Poops and I Don't Know Why. Four Way Swipe. Billionaires ruin everything. Prequel Sequel Sidequel. She broke and he fell. Cosmically unfair physics. Trickle down unhappiness. Let's Test The Ship's Warpers. Rental Application Convenience Utility Pet Fee. Oops all Japan. Preview the Ladyvoice. OREO is just dumb. Never start with strep. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sausage roll. Going to Hell with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.VIDEO: https://youtu.be/LdosXqbPGfw Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oreo is a three-syllable word. Anyway, support TMS today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, I like big poops and I don't know why. Four-way swipe. Billionaires ruin everything. Prequel, sequel, sequel, sidequil. She broke and he fell. Cosmically unfair physics.

Trickle down unhappiness. Let's test the ship's warpers. Rental application convenience utility pet fee. Oops, all Japan. Preview the lady voice. Oreo is just dumb. Start with strep. Mmm.

Sausage Roll. Going to hell with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Hello, this is Cal. This is Mike Case. Hi, what's up, Mike? My boy just wrecked the car. Is your son hurt? Not yet.

I eat guys like you for breakfast. Hmm, all right. This is the morning stream with Scott Johnson and Brian Ibbett. Big old freaking dirt blanket. Oh, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for, let's see, what is it? July 23rd. It's a Thursday. The year is 2026. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian. Hi, Brian. And those are all the facts that we can reveal today about everything. Weather on the nines, but the important stuff would get done up front.

That's right. Absolutely. Here on this very serious podcast radio show that we do. Happy Thursday. Yeah, it is Thursday, which is cool because, I don't know, Thursdays are really busy for me, but I always enjoy a good Thursday, you know? You know, because it's like a, let's get a whole bunch of stuff done before we can kind of settle into the weekend and have like a couple shows, a film sack here and maybe a D&D game or a game of Demio on the VR or something like that, you know, do all that stuff.

Thursdays are good that way. Get everything done day. One of the things that got done today is a new audiobook is now available on Spotify and Apple Books soon on Audible Amazon. We thought we gave them enough time to get it approved. It's not enough time. So we're still approving it. But you can get on Apple Books or Spotify now. It's called Local Boy Done Gone.

It's written by J.L. Savi. Oh, here's a book. Oh, you got the hard copy there, do you? I have the hard copy right here. Let's have a look. I like a hard copy to go knocking things over So this is the book

Local Boy Dungan by JL Savi And it's about the The 27 club Like the musicians who died At the age of 27 Yeah And a little bit of time travel in there And

And a whole lot of coverville in here Because I read the audiobook And it's available today On those two things you can hear my voice doing female voices and old man voices and all that stuff. Can we get a preview of the lady voice? I kind of want to hear it.

There's two different ones. There's Daphne, who's more of a sultry redhead. And then there's the blonde who's more of a high-pitched voice like this. Yeah. I can't wait to hear it. Yeah. That's awesome. That's very cool.

And they can get it anywhere except for Audible Amazon. You can get it anywhere as long as anywhere is Apple Books. Yeah. Yeah. Which I actually, I kind of prefer the Apple Books thing over Audible anyway. Because you can just get an audiobook and not pay for some subscription crap and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Just get it and buy it and have it.

But, yeah, that's great, man. Man, I'll tell you, there's some stuff. Did this for, you know, as people know, I've been working on this thing for several months. And there are so many things that's like, oh, geez, you know, there are a thousand things I'm realizing I could have done so much better that, you know, I'm going to do on book two, which I start working on next month. Is it like sequel to this book? It's a prequel sequel, sidequil. It's the first two books, timely persuasion and local boy done gone can be read in either order because they're time travel. they both reference each other, but they focus on two different characters.

Ah, okay. That are connected, but two different characters. So you can read it, you can read or listen to them in any order. And so we decided to do this one first because it's a little bit shorter, and we could knock it out, knock out the audiobook faster. And then he's working on book number three for the trilogy. Nice. Busy author boy.

I like it. Yep. And I'll do that one too eventually when that one comes, when that one's ready to go. We should stick this in quicktms.l.L.I. today as well. Oh, yes. Yes. Make sure people are aware. Fantastic. Hey, I found something super gross on Reddit and I wanted to share it.

Okay. So this thing really blew my mind. As anyone who is a parent of a Gen Z are out there just trying to make their way. Yeah. You and I both have that in our lives. knows that right now it's like kind of prohibitively expensive to do anything get a house, get a loan, get a rent, whatever, all of it.

And jobs aren't paying more to match it. It's a mess. This is nothing new to people who are listening. However, I found this rental agreement somebody posted. And they actually kind of buried the headline on part of this, but I'll just get to it. So wherever this is, I don't know where this actually is. I didn't dig through the comments, but the rent for this place is 30, 250 a month. It's very expensive.

Yeah. Yeah. And then right after that, in a big red circle, because the person who's, who got the rental agreement is like, they can't believe this. I think this was on the mildly infuriating subreddit. Some of my favorites. That would make sense. Yeah. I sure would fit. It's a really fun subreddit if you ever

are checking it out. Anyway, there's an asterisk that says, if working from home an additional 200 monthly, F that noise. You don't get to have a business charge. You know why they think they can do that because if you're working from home in the winter, you've got the heat on the whole time.

You know, if you leave your house to go to work, then you can turn the heat down and pay less in utilities or make the building owner pay less on utilities. It's dumb. Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending it, but it's like this is why they think that they can. Well, isn't that 200, let's say it's $200 more for utilities.

Isn't that something that the renter's paying for anyway? Because they're paying utilities, right? Or no? Sometimes. Some maybe, yeah, maybe in this case, utilities are included at water and electricity and heat. But maybe they're not. I don't know.

If not, then it's really effed up. Yeah, it's really screwed up. Now, my thing I think they kind of buried here in the headline is the third item down is move in fee, $500 to move in. Does that mean you move me in? Because it better. If I'm paying $500, you better move my ass. informing. Yeah, and a non-refundable

application fee to even apply to get the apartment. That's there. Yeah. F-that. I know, I should ask Tristan how much of this, because I wonder if he had to do a pay for an application fee. I'll bet he did.

Why are they doing that? What is that for? Because they can, I guess. I mean, it's the stupidest, crappiest thing, but I wonder if he even had to pay a move-in fee. I'd be really curious if he did. Yeah. And what does that cover? Is that like, oh, your couch banged up the thing when it came in?

Or is that why? Who knows, right? Like, you're taking up elevator time? Is that what it is? But like, why do you want me to live here? Why pay me to move in? Or why do I have to pay to move in when I'm already paying rent and paying security deposit and all this stuff? Yeah, it's borked, man. Yeah, it really is. Completely borked. And I hope I hope anyone who's listening to me that's like going through the process of, like a new apartment or getting a new lease or whatever. I hope you end up somewhere that isn't full of shit and taking it. Because this is really full of shit. Really sucks. Yeah.

Okay. So that's, that was number one. Number two, while I was on Reddit, I found another thing. Oh, before I tell you about that.

Yeah. Two things. One, I woke up at two in the morning with a, I feel like I, this is the only kind of thing you normally think of when you're stoned. Okay. But I'm not,

you know, I'm not really a stoner type. I'll get a gummy here and there. Sure. It's not really my vibe. A little Mike Tyson ear with a little corner bit of it. Yeah. Sometimes you don't know where those concentrate, though.

That's the worst part about those ears. Because I think in the manufacturing, sometimes the THC is like jammed in the lobe or up higher. Like hangs out the bottom. Oh, geez. Okay. Gross. Anyway, I woke up and I went,

Oreo is the shortest three-syllable word that we have in the English language. Which, by the way, Oreo is not an English word. It is a just a brand. It's a proper noun. A proper noun. It's a name of a thing. But in my head, I'm like, Oreo, that's only four letters for three syllables.

What else is like that? And I started thinking of. Olio, the margarine substitutes. Damn it. It got me already. Same number. But it's also a proper noun. It's also the name of something.

Oh, yeah. Ohio. Ohio. Interesting how these all begin and end with O. Yeah, interesting. Ari is a good one. Oh, Ari is a good one. There's a word that is an actual word and not a product name

or a proper name or a name of a city. Yeah, and the rate says folio, but no, that's the point. That's an extra letter. That's five letters. Area, that's a good one. Oh, area. Very good. Yeah. You can combine them all and get Ariola, but that's too many letters. That's way too many. Ariola is the smallest word I can make with four Syllableness.

Exactly. But why this seems so significant at 2 o'clock in the morning? I was just like, what a brilliant thing I've discovered. Tomorrow, I'm going to, I don't know, make a comic or something about it. It's going to be great. I'm going to do content.

At least this time, it's something you understand, like as opposed to the trees are breathing. Yeah, at least this one I got and it seemed brilliant, but like the stereotype of when you write shit down in the middle of the night, it's mostly going to be bad when you read it in the morning. that's that's one of these so yeah here's here's here's a fun one uh nsf w is more syllables than not safer work the thing that it's meant to shorten so you know that that i think isn't actually and you've mentioned this before that's a valid that's a valid to run up you know what i mean

like that actually is like a sensible like why do we do that question right why do we abbreviate something to four letters that take more syllables than the thing it abbreviates but the orio thing this is dumb it's just dumb it's just a dumb thing It was just so dumb. And I don't trust my 2 a.m. morning brain. It's not a good brain at 2 o'clock in the morning. I'm not even sure it's a great brain at 2 in the afternoon, but last night it was going places.

All right, anyway, so speaking to being stoned. J.K. Grammer is now giving us all of his wordal starting words. Yeah. Oh my gosh. There's tons of them. And none of those are my wordal starting word, which is TARPS, T-R-PS, which I know will never be the first word, but according to a wordelbot is currently the best starting word. Really?

TARPs. Like a plural of a tarp. Plural of tarp. Okay. And does that often... It gets you closer to the end, in fewer guesses, gets you to the answer. Oh, wild. I didn't have any idea that somebody figured that out.

Like what makes it that and not some other four letter word? It's using S-T-R and A, which are, you know, E would be a per, preferable vowel, but STR are three of the most frequently seen in five-letter words consonants.

Okay. I think it's still N-R-S-T-L-N-E just like we all learned from Pat Sejack. Thanks. Thanks for his sacrifice. We appreciate him letting us know.

Strep might have been already a starting word. It might have already been a wordal word, so that's probably why it doesn't recommend it. Strep, stern, sepia in the chat saying. Yeah.

never start with strep. Never start with strep. You're going to get sick. There is a list of what words have been used for wordl. I don't know where that. I'm sure you just Google it, but I have no idea where it is. Anyway.

Well, here's the deal. This lady, her name is Caitlin. And she posted this and I just had to share it. She says, okay, I'm stoned, but this seems like a good idea. What if there was an app that both you and your partner have, where you both swipe right or left? So imagine Brian and Tina,

Kim and I, whoever. You both swipe right or left on movies that are on your streaming services, and when you find a match, it lets you know. I think this is a really good idea. It's a brilliant idea. Absolutely. Why not? Someone make this.

It was seen by millions of people on Reddit, so if someone's making it, it's already happening. Somebody's already going to Claude Code, and somebody's probably already beat you to it, Hooty. Yeah. Yeah. And give us a four-player one for FilmSack. Where, like, it gives us a list of crappy movies and the four of us, like, swipe left or right, like, oh, God, Randy, another one of these. No, I'm not watching another one of these.

But, oh, this is a good one. Yeah. I like this. Yeah. I just think that sometimes what you think of in the night when you're stoned, it works. And it is good. Just not that orio shit. Great idea.

We, uh, I didn't tell you. I got Tina to watch obsession. Tina and I watched Obsession the other night. Nice. Big things to Redfragel, who gave me some more specific. about gore levels and violence levels and things like that. I mean, you know, let's face it, the whole thing is one big, you know, sexual essay, sexual, word blanking, can't come up with word.

Assault. There you. Sexual assault. Yeah. You know, because basically this guy is taking advantage of a wish to get kind of what he wants from this woman, although it's very. you know, obviously it's black mirror where it's, here's what you want. You're not going to want it.

You know, that sort of thing. Sure. It's good. Tina didn't like it as much as, as much as, like, reviewers and things like that. For me, it was like, yeah, it's good. It wasn't, I think I liked some other, like, weapons, I thought was head and shoulders better than obsession. Interesting. Barbarian way better.

You know, like if I'm putting things in kind of horror movie rating system, then I'd say, those are ones I'd put above this. But it was good. And the actress who plays the woman in this, holy cow, she is amazing. Like, she does an incredible job. She's going to get nominated for stuff. I hope so. Yeah. A lot of rumbling is about that happening.

If nothing else, then it'll lead to some much better stuff for her. but yeah 100% the monkey's paw joy it's absolutely which is every twilight zone episode right it's like i can finally read all the books i want everybody's oh my glasses oh shit they've cracked oh batman i'm gonna get you oh that's right i always forget that was him in there yeah we're just oh rocky i'm in your corner i'm a i'm a cranky no i'm a crusty what's the movie not Rusty old men. What was the sixth sequel? Oh, yes. Grumpy old man. Grumpy old man. Grumpy old men, too. Burgess Meredith improved a lot of his lines. Oh, it's so good.

Okay. He's like some, one of the old guys' dads. So he's really old. He's playing like 90s. And he improvves so much that the blooper reel is some of the funniest. Really? You don't even have to see the movie. I think the movie's funny. But if you go seek out the second one, just the birdie. just Meredith bloopers. Oh my gosh, dude. The dirty shit he says. It is so funny. Worth it. Okay. Worth it. Go read him. Uh, how was the zoo? How'd that go? Can I just say, you know, one last thing real quick. We were talking about, you know, the, the, the two guys in, in, um, grumpy old men, of course, Jack Lemon, Walter Mathau. What was the, um, the, uh, there was a, was a Jack Lemmon's last words? There was somebody's last words right there.

like one of them is on their deathbed, the other one is talking to them. And I'm going to say it's Jack Lemon asking Walter Mathout this, right? He says, oh, man, you're sorry to see you like this. Are you comfortable? And Walter Mathau says, eh, I make a living. Anyway. Dude, Mathout rules. I love him.

Yeah, totally does. Anyway, the zoo. So Tina got this deal with Adult Protective Services. Jefferson County gave her, hey, we're doing. Jeffco night at the zoo. Free tickets. Pick your time slot you want to go in. We pick six o'clock.

It's been crazy hot for the last 12 days, but yesterday we finally started getting some rain. It was still hot in the morning, but then the same rain that you guys had kind of came through. And we got to the zoo. Immediately walking in, the speaker said, attention guests.

The National Weather Service has just informed us that we're going to be experiencing some severe weather. So please make your way to the nearest shelter. Oh, shit. All right. Well, we wanted to get something to eat anyway. So we made our way over to the down under section and got some sausage rolls and some Coke zeros and sat there under an awning. And it was maybe like we brought umbrellas to here just fine. And it was maybe like a, you know, five minute, ten minute spring.

It was nothing. It wasn't really bad. No big deal. Yeah. But between the heat of the first part of the day and the rain, it was, it was an experience of looking at what habitats animals might live in if they were to be out living in those habitats. Oh, interesting. Because every animal was inside their little enclosures.

A lot of the enclosure, I have no idea why this is the case, but like the giraffe enclosure, the inside part of the giraffe house, closed. the primate house closed. The big cat area was open. That was awesome. And we had some lines right up at the window. Nice. Hanging out with us is super, super cool.

But for the most part, we could look at the pictures of the albums. Or the albums. We could look at the pictures of the animals. And thanks to the rain, we could smell every animal, but we couldn't see any animals. The humid stink of a zoo when it's. It's wet. Exactly.

It's like, oh, that's, I think that right there is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is smelling new. Oh, man. That's gross. Yeah. But, uh, anyway, it's still a blast. We, you know, we were laughing the whole time. It was almost like, uh, it was like, uh, it was like, Scooby-Doo, uh, like that old man who lives in the

abandoned zoo, you know, it was like, basically, it was the two of us and a whole bunch of empty enclosures and nobody else. Weird. You kind of had the place to yourself. We had the place almost completely to ourselves. About 7.30 people started rolling in, and that was about the time we were leaving. I guess nobody wanted that 6 o'clock slot. Wow. I want to say Ganoo, left-hand Ethan.

You know, like that old song, I'm a Ganoo. Isn't it Gary Ganoo? Remember that cartoon? Or what was it? Gary Ganoo, yes, there was a Gary Ganoo. Or he was a puppet maybe? I don't remember what he was. There's a son of the animal in the zoo. I'm a Ganoon. Ganoo.

What is, anyway, yeah, Gary Ganoe, I remember Gary Ganoe. Yeah, he was great. Gary was a trusted voice

in my childhood. I think, if I remember right, I don't know. Was there any controversies? Did Gary Ganoe touch a llama or something? Yeah, inappropriately.

Yes, who knows? What happened there? We don't know. Who knows? Well, that's great. The zoo, the zoo is better for it. And, uh,

the zoo is exactly. And my headline for it is zoo blander. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Zoo blander. Zoo blander. Uh,

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Japanese woman has been arrested. Finally, for sewing a roommate's mouth shut. Oh, geez. Pretty rough, man. How do you not wake somebody up when you're sewing their mouth shut? It feels like there's more to that story. And so we're going to dig in. It says the Japanese woman was arrested and allegedly was sewing the lips of another woman's mouth shut

that she was living with, causing what they called injuries that left her unable to eat or speak. Yeah, I mean, that's sewing mouth shut'll do that. That'll do that, yeah. Masai Sakura, age 49, a part-time worker, doesn't say in what field sewing maybe, I don't know. Yeah. Was arrested on Monday in Koga, the city in Ibakari Prefecture, that's northeast of Tokyo over the alleged attack on her 42-year-old roommate.

Police said, Ms. Sakura used a needle and thread to sew women's lips together around 1.30 p.m. local time. They did not disclose whether Ms. Secura had assaulted, sorry, admitted to the allegations, but acknowledged or announced, I don't know these words are all jumbled up. They were investigating the motive and circumstances behind the assault. They were also investigating the relationship between the two women. The victim escaped the house around 1.30 p.m. the following day while the other lady was out. Japan today, that's the paper there reported.

Wearing a white face mask, she ran into a nearby shop, hand to staff member, a note reading, please help me and was unable to speak because of her injuries. they don't get into how she holds still for this right and and why was she why was it like the following day she escaped the house at around 1.30 p.m. the following day it sounds like there was more than just showing your

sewing your mouth shut it sounds like you know kidnapping or imprisonment you know unlawful imprisonment or something there's a whole lot of stuff yeah the only thing I know about the only thing they really get into down here is they say acquaintances of the person who did this told the local TV station

she had a history of allowing people who had left their homes to stay with her and had helped some find work so suggesting there have been other people who have sort of in and out been in that place and maybe she's a psychopath and all their lips gets sewn. I mean this might be

the hot new serial killer lady story that comes to Netflix. God, no kidding. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? It's really there's way more of this story. Like this is a story that asks more questions than it answers. Yeah.

It's a dark one, too. It's weird. I don't want to know more, though. Yeah, for sure. But they don't give us more. So we'll tell you this story. A man, age 29, fell from a 12-story apartment building and landed on a 23-year-old pedestrian. He survived and she died.

Or as the headlander says, he survived while she die. While she die. A woman died after a man landed on her when he fell from an apartment building. Yeah, don't. By the way. Once in a while we get listeners who think we're making fun at these things. We're not. No.

It's because I was laughing at the ridiculous headline. Yeah, the headlines broken. That's all. So just calm down. Save your type in for a different day. Shinsai Toguchi fell from a 12 story building in Nagoya's Sakei district. This is also in Japan? Yeah.

It sure looks like it. Yeah. It looks like it is. Wow. Yeah. I didn't mean to have two Japan stories. This happened on July 19th. Dr. Struck the pedestrian identified as Hora and Naba on the sidewalk below, according to multiple

Japanese outlets. The way this worked, not that the person didn't mean to fall out of there. It wasn't like an intentional jump. It wasn't a suicide. It was a fall from a balcony. Yeah, it was a fall, which I just, okay, life and randomness are going to take whatever their toll is. Sure. But it feels like the person who fell. even accidentally should have to take whatever brunt there is, they have to kind of take it. You know what I mean? It's their deal.

Right. They were clumsy. They need to own up to their clumsiness and take whatever punishment is involved. Yeah. Even though it's just the randomness of gravity and time and space, they have to deal with whatever those ramifications are. I just don't think it's cosmically fair for this other person down there. who's just walked in minding their own business. The, and the thing says fell from a 12-story building. How they might have been in a 12-story building, but I think if they fell 12-stories, both of them would be dead.

I would think so. It's got to be, yeah, so it's like whereabouts did you fall from the 12-story building? Yeah, I don't like the way that's written because it makes your brain go, oh, 12 stories. God, that's horrendous, though. They didn't really say it. Right. Anyway, fun story to end on while,

while we get ready for Wendy. Speaking of which. Dear Wendy, how do I process these stories? How do I deal with this? Well, let's find out. Something wrong, Batman. Has anybody seen Wendy? I have.

She's right here. She's my sister. She's also a very smart and capable therapist. Helps people with real problems all the time. And she's on the line now to help you with yours. Hello, Wendy. Hi. Hi.

Hello. How are you? Hello. So soothing. Yeah. You are soothing today. Why is so soothing? What's going on?

I don't know. I just had some cereal. I did think. That'll do it. I thought, you know what if I ate cereal on the show, would you rather die than listen to someone eat cereal? Yeah, Brian wouldn't like. It would be the Scott and Wendy show for the rest of the day. Yeah, Brian's like, I'm out. Yeah.

Can't do it. It was yummy, so I'm feeling good. Hey, I heard, you said a couple of weeks ago, some comment about how Adam brushing his teeth drives you nuts. Oh, flossing. Oh, flossing. And then we were talking about periometopause and how, you know, things that would not buggy. you 10 years ago, just drive you up a tree or whatever. Now, I have heard no less than

maybe five, six times now in different social media posts and stuff where people are saying, because I started, this is all preparation for a question. I asked Dr. Tolbert, we did a video about it, around menopause. But all of these responses were like,

I hate it with my, I can't listen to my husband brush his teeth. I can't listen to him, floss his teeth. Like there's some specific, yeah, or any of that stuff. So, Do you think it's possible that like you could go your whole life, no misophonia at all? But then hormonal changes happen and then it's like, oh my gosh, I can't listen to you.

This is terrible. Is that what that is? All the chemicals that make us like you guys start going away. Okay. So I think the first place it goes is what you do with your weird old mouths. Breathing. I mean, that's science. Fair enough.

Makes sense. A little nose whistle. Any of that stuff. Oh, the nose whistle. Yeah. Does Adam snored all? Do you have any kind of snoring? Yeah, he actually has to use a CPAP. Oh, he's got a full apnea. He had his nose broken like 200 times.

Oh, geez. He played soccer and just never got to think. He played hockey? Soccer, okay. You think, just neglected health care probably. But soccer and then he fell, passed out in a class once and fell down and hit his nose on the way down. So it's all sorts of jacked up.

So he just hasn't been able to breathe correctly for a long time. And then he got checked and they were like, you're going to die in the night. So he's a, I'm a huge fan of CPAPs. I'm telling you, I don't have one. And I think I don't know if I could do it. But I think they are life savings devices. They are, yeah.

Go get checked people. It's a pain. Like, it's really hard to get people to do them because they're, they're uncomfortable or whatever. Yeah. But it's worth living. Just go get checked. Yeah, worth living.

And I'll tell you this. The CPAP has become the best. sleep aid for falling the sleep like the the I've trained myself or I've it's been you know ingrained in me that the second I put that thing on out I go it's fantastic like it's a nice you know doesn't it doesn't it provide doesn't it provide a soothing white noise for the for anyone else in the room it used to the one I have is is too quiet now and so Tina needs a white noise machine separately that's funny I know it's like unfortunate like the thing that that they consider to be a technological improve

improvement, unfortunately now causes Tina have to have a white noise machine. Oh, man. Well, let's move from white noise to white people talking about noise. No, I'm kidding. Let's talk about an email we got. We got an email that was a pretty dang good one. Wendy thinks. And this person said we can use their name.

So I'll say that ahead of reading it. But this is from one of our friends in Canada. So we're going to go ahead and read this thing. And we'll see where we go. Hey, Wendy and the guys. I was hoping you could have a discussion about the one thing that we all to deal with, which is death. For a long time, I had a kind of panic attack when I would think of my mortality, usually at night when my brain doesn't turn off trying to go to sleep. And to say

that it sucks is an understatement. The big part of it, uh, or sorry, the big part of it is that my brain can't comprehend it. I grew up in the church. I am now an atheist. Uh, I like to be called a recovering Christian, he says in parentheses. So I'm sure that that's part of it. Most of my life, I was lectured about how we will all burn in hell if we don't subscribe to this specific belief or uh and looking back at how at that now is definitely traumatizing any suggestions or strategies or ideas would be greatly appreciated and here's his background it gave us more info this by the way is a good tip always give more info if you can uh he says he's 41 years old he's been married for 20 plus years both him and his partner who is a trans man oh this might be a lady then no it's a guy

both my partner a trans man are former christians and not religious anymore we have two teenage kids I'm diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder, suspecting that I'm somewhere on the autism and ADHD spectrum. Both kids are diagnosed. He put A-U-D-H-D-D. Yeah, you say, ah, D-H-D. That means it's a little combo of the autism in- Oh, is that what that is?

I've seen that used before. Cool. Okay, I thought was a typo. Thanks for all, thanks for you all being freaking awesome, he says, in all caps, and I really wish I could have made it to turnitacular. The Deformed Cheeto made it, so I couldn't this time.

Hopefully in the future. Derek in Canada. And then he yells this at the end. Canada. So we got to play that. All right. So this is interesting. The,

let me throw this in real quick because it just made me think of it. I think that, you know, people thinking about death is A, kind of always struck me as normal because our entire revolution is about survival. So why wouldn't you? fear and or mold that thing into something you want it to be, you know, like the things we do as humans to avoid death or to make death easier or whatever is, you know, we probably have

no limit to that. But it's interesting because I feel like for a lot of my life, I was either, like in this, in his exact situation, trying to go to sleep and you start thinking about your mortality. And there are really just two ways you can go. It either, you're either, you're either cool with it or you're not afraid of it or you are. And I wonder if it's normal to go back and forth. Because when I was, there's areas in my life where I'd be like, oh, death, man. It would kind of put me into a brain place I don't, I didn't like.

And then there's times where I'm just like, eh. What if I's gone tonight wouldn't be that big a deal? Comes for us all. Yeah. Oh, geez. There's got to be a middle ground where it's like, yeah, it's happening. I don't want it to happen soon, but it'll happen. Yeah, you're right.

That's probably a healthier version of it. But there are times where, like, I'll be laying in bed and I'll go, oh, that hurts and this hurts. And my monkey brain will go, or isn't that a sign of other severe health problems? And then my main brain now has a choice. He either goes, oh, yeah, you're right. Oh, no. We got to go to the emergency room. Or he goes, whatever, just.

if it's going to be tonight, then that's fine. What's the worst? What's the worst thing? I poop the bed. And they'll take care of that. They always do. It's a discreet problem. They're used to it.

My poor wife and all that, but you know, whatever, it'll all work out. Sometimes my brain does that and sometimes it goes into full survival mode. I don't know why I do that, but anyway. Just real quick, I think you could just generally assume if you think it, it may not be whatever else is thinking. Probably. just F way. Because a lot of people don't think about it at all, and then some do. Like, it really runs the gamut here, right?

So, Brian, before we continue, what is your relationship with thinking about death? I just see it as inevitable thing. It's the final destination rules. It's going to come when it comes. And there's nothing I can do about it. I can do the things that keep me healthy that prevent it from hurrying its way along. You know, I can keep from causing it in myself, but it's going to happen when it happens and that's just part of life.

Yeah, no. Okay. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. So we got a guy who grew up hearing that is going to burn in hell forever when he dies. Right. Right.

So I wonder why. I'd be afraid of it too. Yeah. If I grew up like, you know. Heck yeah. I mean, that is a mad. I mean, I love how he's like, you know. maybe that's related.

Yeah. 100% is. Definitely related. Definitely related. So I think recovering Christian is an interesting term because what I would wonder is, I know maybe maybe it's being tongue in cheek, but like an actual recovering Christian means you've got to do some work to recover. And what I hear here is someone who maybe hasn't done some of that recovering work in the sense of figuring out how to feel about, what he was taught about death and life after this and, you know, where he's going and blah, blah, blah.

So very commonly, if you grew up, you know, hearing this, it's just, it's the same as if someone grew up with the Easter Bunny or with Santa Claus or something else where it's just in the water. You don't, it's not a question at all. It's just real. Even though none of us can see it, it's real. And it will happen as much as what you're, the next day is going to happen. And you're a kid. You don't know. Like, so I, I want to emphasize that because it is so significant. And often when people, you know, leave a faith or religion, you know, they're living their lives. They're just like, don't want to think about that. Or, you know, they don't actually do the recovery part of maybe there were some things they learned that were unhealthy.

And maybe those things were their family-based things, their family plus that religious-based stuff. And so, you know, really actually recovering from some traumatizing way to be raised really matters, right? Now, if this is someone who wants to stay Christian and wants to grapple with, wait, what is hell actually? And, you know, was it made up in the Mediterranean of the second century? Yeah, maybe it was. You know, like the translation of the words in the Bible to what is hell? now, there's a lot of questions to be had. And so maybe you want to go deep in that and try to figure out how you might feel differently about the afterlife because the way you were taught

about it as a kid isn't like, it isn't harming you versus something, some way to, that it offers you peace because, you know, religion covers these big questions because we all are going to live and we're all going to die. Even Brian Johnson, after all of that work, Roe is going to dive something. is that his name? Brian Johnson. I just hate that I know his name. It's not his name. You know, the dude is spending a billion dollars to never die.

Oh, that guy. Is it Brian? I haven't heard about this guy. Oh, this guy's the weirdest. Oh, Brian, don't look. Yeah, don't even, don't even, don't poison your well. Close your eyes, Mary. Yeah, don't poison your well.

He's a weirdo. But also, didn't he, there was something recent where he does stuff. Yeah, he has an autoimmune disease. He tested him for everything. He spends $1,000 an hour on doctors. Yeah. And apparently he's been diagnosed with something that is like... His stomach's eating itself because of what he's been feeding himself.

Oh, geez. It's something weird like that. Like feeding himself to prevent from dying, like basically... Well, he takes his son's stem cells and, like, gets blood transfusions from young. It's just whatever. It's really weird, man. It's like he genics. It's like personal eugenics is what it is.

It is because he's got... Instead of philanthropy, what we do with rich people know is we just make ourselves live forever. It's very weird. I don't like that. He gets young people and has their blood infused into him. Oh, yeah. His own kid even.

Oh, really? Okay. God. Yeah. Okay. But let's take him as just the quick example of that is someone who's really afraid of death and is maybe not dealing with the maturity, the growth, the understanding, the whatever of life that often leads people to have a peaceful acceptance of

death or sometimes people can just even make themselves more and more freaked out. Right. So going back to the emailer, what is the, what is the, and I'm using this word globally now, not just with religion or something, but just the recovering from the fear. So that fear was implanted at a very young age. Yeah. You were told all of the ways that your sort of life was supposed to be something else. and now it's not, so you have only one choice

and that is to go to hell. Say that to literally anyone and describe hell and paint a picture of it and try to have them not be anxious about it. They either didn't believe it to begin with or they're freaked out. There is no, yeah, it feels like there's no middle ground, but also you're doing it when a kid is extremely susceptible

to suggestion and their brains are forming around it. Yeah, crazy. Which is why kids will feel really betrayed when they find out Santa's not real if you handle it poorly because you have lied to them their whole life about an imaginary thing. And in this case, this person probably believes hell is imaginary. But the Santa is real is so deeply in their DNA. So that needs to be some work on that, right? And to not just be like, throw it out or whatever, if you are actively afraid of death, because this is what often happens. There could be other factors here. Obviously, we only know what we know

here. But we have some ADHD. We have maybe a little autism going on. So we have a brain that likes to find something new, right? Really driven by novelty and motivated in different ways than some other brains. And so there may be like a rumination component to this that is actually not that much to do with the hill part, but more to do with that his brain is just not giving him a rest. So he had a panic attack. What was it for a long time, I think? Okay. So like there is some anxiety that's happening here.

He didn't say he was diagnosed with that, but that would be a clue of something to look at. So if we broke this into kind of two parts. One is to have you actually recovered from the belief in your burning in Hill? And is that the fear driving you? Or is anxiety really a part of the puzzle that is going to find any reason to freak out and is constantly ruminating? I would want to know. the difference between those two things if there is one and that there is help for the anxiety

part and there is recognizing like okay when your brain does things a little bit differently you might want to deal with this differently so for example if it's and he said it was every night right like I try to go to bed okay so a lot of this is very common for for everybody but especially when you got a different functioning brain it's a dopamine cortisol thing. You have what we know about an ADHD brain versus one that is not. It's really a motivation or reward system problem. We've often just pinpointed the front of the brain like, oh, and I for years, I mean, all of us thought the same thing. We just thought, oh, that part of the brain isn't fully developed or it's underactive. And that's why, you know, we treat that with a

stimulant and now everything works. And that is what we thought for a long, long time and what we're finding out more and more, it's that it's actually the reward center of the brain. And somebody with ADHD does not, their brain does not release as much dopamine as it does in a different brain for the same thing. So they are getting less stimulation. That's why they're always seeking stimulation. That's why novelty is so powerful. That's why starting something is so much more fun than ever finishing something. And so that can be really, really tricky. And if everybody lays down and is quiet for the first time in a day, like you don't have music playing, you're not listening to someone else talk on a podcast, you are not reading, you are not talking to another person,

you are just you alone, which is, well, Brian and his CPAP machine, right? You don't, there's, there's just your empty head slash not empty at all. And now it's time for things to arise that you have not dealt with that you haven't worked through, et cetera. So that is a normal process of reviewing the day or you've missed out on something. And so your brain's going to be like, should we think about this thing, right? Remember that happened? I wonder what happened. Plus anxiety means that happens every night versus that's going to happen here or there for anyone because of stuff that happened in a day and now they're quiet, right? But if it's happening every single night. And if it's always about the same topic, that's when we usually can know,

this might be something more to pay attention to. So it's getting his attention. It's raising his cortisol. It's making it hard to sleep. He's a near panic. And death is just the topic that works. So for example, if I said, your carburetor needs, I don't, I'm trying to make up a car analogy. It's going really bad already. You need to, oh, change the filters in your house. There you go. Got it. Okay.

Sure. Sometime in the next month, if you lay down and that is what your brain tells you and you go, oh, yeah, I'll do that. You write it down. You make yourself a note and then you go to sleep. Okay. Then that's the brain doing the like, hey, I'm just helping out. Remembering stuff?

Because there's a minute you're listening. Offloading. If it's like, oh, you got to go check that now. What if it starts on fire? and then the house burns down. And it takes you on an absolute roller coaster of a ride about something that is not urgent. Then you got something else sort of going on. So that's what I always like to have people tell me like, what is the content?

Not because the content is the most important part, but it does mean usually there's some work around that content that needs to be done. So that's why the church thing is relevant, right? If this person, you know, I have a client who has zero religious background at all, you would think was raised an altar boy his whole life. The level of scrupulosity and OCD that is around doing things the right way and morally the right way. And it has nothing to do with his background. It has everything to do with OCD and anxiety, right? Versus someone else who, you know, the religious stuff really is the thing. And so I would love if this person could get evaluated if they were open to it just to have talk through this with somebody to see if it's just not an anxiety thing piece that hasn't been treated.

And then also, you know, there is always room. If your therapist is any good, there's always room to discuss, you know, the childhood influences and how that might have impacted, you know, because I think it might be a call. combo is my suspicion here yeah that's what it feels like to me i mean it's just interesting that that that we don't hear about this more because i mean everybody who's gone through that that that um uh experience of exactly the burning hell system yeah ask for it by name um you know that there should be more people out there who are like freaking out about man maybe there are and they're just like swallowing it and pushing it deep down inside their fear of death uh or it comes out in other ways or whatever, but it's surprising that we don't hear more about this.

It is actually quite common in therapy. So it's happening. So you hear about it more than, yeah, for sure. The other one is the rapture. Talk about, you know, you take two kids, right? You take one who's like, any minute, all the bad people are going to be left and all the good people will be called. That's all right, better be.

You know what I want from that? Every time I hear about the rapture, here's what I want. This isn't going to work this way. Sure. I want the rapture to happen and to take all the people who think it's going to happen. Sure. And that's a win-win across the board, man. Yeah, kind of is.

Exactly. It's like, like, I mean, literally a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yeah. That would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Well, okay, but then take the second kid. So the second kid learns about the rapture and then spends every, waking minute of their life, checking if they're, like, no one's home yet when they get home from school and they're convinced everyone's been raptured. And this happens over and over and over

throughout their childhood. That is a very different experience, right? And who knows which is happening with either kid? If you grew up in the 80s and 90s, nobody. Nobody knows if you know the difference, you know, the difference between those two kids because everyone would just clamp it down and hold it in or any generation before. Right. So you have this like maybe a predisposition for a certain thing because there are people who can be Christian and believe in burning in hell and be nice people, right? But there is and they're not, they're not waking up every night.

They find comfort in that, I guess. And so there's something to be said for this, the individual experience and then what their sort of situation is. So this is a 42-year-old and teenagers. That's a scary time of life anyway, right? And we have, we already, oh, I forgot the generalized anxieties. Oh, yeah, duh. I've skipped that part.

Yeah, clearly, that is what's going on probably more than anything. So let me just share a briefing. So John Hopkins did a lot of research, has done a lot of research on psilocybin, magic mushrooms, as we like to call them. Anyway, and a lot of the work initially was done with folks who had serious fears of death, and these are people who have been diagnosed with terminal illnesses. And so just terrified of death. And what they have found is that the folks who were just, you know, almost paralyzed by the idea,

and it was coming, right? You have a diagnosis. You know you only have this much time to live. and what the results from utilizing that as a treatment was, and you can, I'm sure you could read it and break down all the different experiences that they had while using it, but most of them will experience, had experienced a feeling of just like, it's kind of like ego death, right? Which is, I'm not the center of everything. And there's this large collective sense of love, right?

And so I think this is why religion is so effective. at giving people a sense of meaning and calm in life because it gives them both an answer to lots of questions, but it also can have this feeling of group, something bigger than me, and this sort of universally felt love. And so on psilocybin, these folks are experiencing this, religious backgrounds irrelevant, right? They're not experiencing it as religious things as as they knew it, but as this just sort of one consciousness or large love, just feeling this connectivity to everything that's living. And so, you know, during that trip or whatever, like, they have this insight and then their brain gets all the benefit from the neuroplasticity

that comes from some of these psychoactive drugs. And their stress scales went way down. Their fear of death went way down. So they just had, you know, the results were really pretty impressive. to reduce this. So maybe our emailer could go and get some mind-altering drugs. Why not? Yeah. Go get some mind-altering drugs. Why not? Yeah. Right. I like the elasticity. Like the description of that. It sounds way more appealing when you say it like increasing the elasticity of your brain. Oh, I'm going to go, I want to go get something of the increase of the elasticity of my brain. Oh, okay, cool. What's funny is I thought I said plasticity.

Oh, you did. I'm sorry. You did say plasticistic. I'm sorry. You did. But elasticity works too because it really. is that your brain stops repeating the same neural firing and it can grow and it's just a chance for the brain. It's like a, it's like shooting it with the ability to, to regrow some neurons and grow faster and drop some crappy ones, right? So we use this for lots of different things. Like ketamine is the one that's illegal everywhere and it's the one that gets abused by billionaires. Yeah. It does, but it's really effective. That's true. Billioners ruin everything. But it's really effective.

reducing suicidal ideation quickly and some other things because of this brain plasticity. It can really give your brain a nice little boost. In a clinical setting and all that, the mushroom thing, you can arrange that with like your doctor and your insurance and your stuff, right? That's not like a, it's not like you got to go back alley and eat a mushroom. Yeah. Maybe it depends on where you live or what you're doing. Yeah, at least in the United States. I think Oregon, of course, is ready to go.

So you have to go to Oregon for it. But I know of lots of people who are trained and kind of doing it quietly because it is so effective for certain populations. One of the way, I mean, this, no one thought this was, we're talking about hell and death. And now we're like, let's talk about drugs. anyway but there is some i think the day will come where it will be utilized in the open because it'll become legal one of the things they're working on is trying to take the psychoactive element out so that nobody's tripping because that is um not counter indicated for people with schizophrenia or other type of um disassociation from reality because that's not always going to work it's really effective

with PTSD but if you've got you know someone who did a lot of acid in Vietnam and then has PTA SD, they're at more risk using another psychoactive substance. So anyway, it's a growing field. It'll be interesting. I always think I'm going to be like 75 still working with my clients. Like, and they're like, well, I did my mushrooms. Like you told me 30 years ago.

I remember when there was no internet. You know what I like? I like the Oregon. So here's what you can do in Oregon. When you're young, you go for the food trucks and the music. when you're middle-aged, you go there for the mushroom treatment. Totally. And then when you're ready to check out, you go there for the, you know, the checkout treatment.

Yeah, yeah. They got it covered. They got it all worked out. That are Switzerland. That's if you're fancy. But similarly, they're very open to all the things. Yeah. So, yeah.

So it sounds like he's already been diagnosed with a couple things. I apologize again for missing the anxiety because that makes sense. And that would be the thing I would be looking at treating as the anxiety. around this particular topic. He didn't mention he's done any counseling. He didn't, you know, maybe he is, this is a thing that's really gotten worse recently. Yeah. You know, if your, if his family is still all in that religion, think he's going to hell because he's married to a trans man.

I mean, there's, there could be a lot more going on that's activating this. So that's why I'm always like, all right, where's the anxiety? What is our level? Is it diagnosable? and what do we need to do to treat it? And then also just content of what shows up when your brain is quiet is really, it's like that's the system working.

It's something I need to deal with, right? And when it's something like death, it's hard to be like, well, let me deal with death because what? It's so existential and you don't get to know any answers. But, you know, this is a human endeavor. We've been doing for a long, long time, which is talking through philosophy, music,

poetry. There's all the things. And, you know, just to give it some attention sometimes that is not, I've laid down and now my brain is ruminating. Because most of us just want it to stop. Yeah. So we avoid, avoid, avoid avoid, avoid. And the opposite is 99% of the time move towards it and figure out why this thing needs to keep showing up. And also maybe why your anxiety is a little over the limit at this moment in life, you know. Parents are wild. They, and the one hand, they took pretty good care of those diapers when we needed it. And on the other hand, later on, they're like instilling us with all this garbage. Yeah.

Right. Exactly. Yeah. It's a real bummer that we're going to have to unpack later on. It's a real bummer. That's a real bummer, you know. Thanks a lot, parents. Yeah, thanks, parents, jerks. And I think I've mentioned this before.

Like, there's this huge influx in needing to know how to treat the elderly. We don't have enough clinicians who are trained in working with. people in their 70s, 80s, and 90s, because, A, they never sought therapy before. Right. And now there is just, like, there's an influx and nobody's quite ready for it. And it's not easy. I have a couple clients have a client in their late 70s. And it's really different to have zero background.

They did not grow up with any of these words, let alone my kids could give you a 30-minute lecture on emotional intelligence. And, you know, this woman's like, I don't, I mean, my kid at ADHD, I guess. I'm like, oh, here we go. You know, so it's a lot of, there's some things to be that middle generation. Yay for you, guy from Canada. Yeah, right. He's got some decent health care up there.

Yeah, he does. Get some of that health care working for you. Take advantage of it. Yeah. Take your card in or whatever you guys do up there. Hey. Quick question, though. this is just a side note though

if what was I going to say now it left me maybe my question should be how do I get thoughts not to leave as I'm having them dang it it was a good one too and it was connected and now I can't remember it well I'll think of it later

it's a good thing I have your number yeah you can ask any time I'll get to you so Wendy know better you.com is a thing and people can sign up for stuff even when things aren't happening or directly happening. Oh go Tell me what's happening.

Yeah, yes, it's happening. Go right now, too. We actually even created a little icon for you. Okay, anyway, happiness, the happiness, molecular litter. See, I should never name it that. I can't say it. Molecular happiness is starting on September 13th. So, registration is open.

There's early bird specials. It is, if you've done it before, we've added a bunch of cool stuff. It's going to be great. So, yeah, go there, sign up. and I just finished the Harvard Happiness class, and I'm stealing a bunch of stuff. It's so good. It's been a real blast.

So it's going to start on the 13th. I'm going to send this link to the chat real quick. And then also. And there are scholarships. I know you guys. I know. I had someone reach out to me who years ago, I just let him do the class for free because he was struggling and coming out of recovery.

and he is sober and doing so well and he wants to pay for somebody else. So I got that guy, plus I have other ways. There's lots of scholarship options if you can pay a portion. If you can pay nothing, just email me and just know plenty of people have done it. And it really, if you can't, this needs to be in everyone's heads. I promise you. It's everyone says the same thing. Like I just wish I was happier.

I don't know how to be happy. I'm just not happy, even though I have everything in my life I supposedly want. You know, why do we, back to billionaires. Yep, it's all back to the billionaires. Good night. You could literally buy or do anything. And that's because it's a big, fat lie. That money is not what makes you happy.

In fact, it's super different from that. And you have to do it differently or you will not be happy. Yeah. Anyway, so I have all the science people. Please just come. And then they smear their unhappiness on us. It's a trickle down unhappiness, not trickle down economics. trickle down bad behavior nicks.

All right. Wendy, have a fantastic week. We'll do this again in one Earth week. And in the meantime, I hope everything goes well and that, you know, the twin cities remain close to each other.

Yeah, they're still friends. Yeah. That'd be a bad, that'd be a bad civil war between the two big cities. It'd be rough. It'd be fought among the skyways. That's where all the battles would be fought.

It'd be very passive aggressive. You'd have general. General, who's the Prairie Home Companion guy? what's his name? I can't think he was name. But he'd be the general. Keeler, Garrison Keeler. Governor Keeler, they're coming from the west.

Anyway, stay out of trouble. Bye now. Hey, something on our website cracks me up. I just want to share it. There's this graphic of a guy who's got plants on him. But if you're just glancing at it, he looks like he's on fire and loving it. It does. It's like, yeah, exactly. Everything is fine. Yeah, he's like stoked about it, but he's on fire. Right, at first glance. Maybe choose green for the plants.

I freaking love that. Yeah. Yeah, green would be a way better choice. Maybe green would be a better choice. I guess it doesn't go with their overall color scheme. No, no, it's outside of their branding colors, but. Well, I say tell Adam to do it anyway. Yeah.

A quick email. This is from somebody regarding the nail salon story I told. And I think I initially told this story on a day you were. were gone. Okay. Yeah, because I don't recognize it. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, that's right. Because, yeah, you went, you got your, you got a petty. I got a petty. You didn't paint your toes. A man, a man-y petty, I like to call it because of the man. Oh, man-e petty. Yeah. And it was a, you know, I had a good experience.

But anyway, this email was calling me out for some stuff I don't exactly remember. So I'm going to read it and then we'll talk about it. Says, first of all, I love all of Scott shows and I've been a listener for years. But it disturbed me that Scott made jokes about Vietnamese people's pronunciation. and owning nail salons. I don't remember the pronunciation thing. Whatever. She called her the Coke Zero.

She called it Cock Zero. I wasn't making fun of it. I just thought it was funny because it was the word cock. That's all. Yeah. That's fun to say right now. We're 13 year olds at heart. Come on.

Yeah, we're just little children. Anyway, the Vietnamese don't choose to do that work. That's all immigrants can do when they go to a new country. What work could you do in Vietnam? Okay, so I'll stop you there. my discussion about that was about that documentary called Nailed It. Oh, yeah.

Which was about the advent of the salons in the wake of people escaping Vietnam. Right. It was a way actually to bring people here and get them jobs. Get them jobs and get them started. And it's super fascinating, complex story about a lot of different people doing really interesting things. Not once did I say a negative. thing about them, that being a good job or a bad job or anything like that. I just talked about how it's interesting that that all sprung from that.

And yeah, I know they came here to work there because that's how they could get started. That's the point. Anyway, he then says, also the color purple is not really about racial inequality specifically. It's a long-running musical with songs relevant to the story. I don't remember even talking about the color purple. I don't either. I just know you got your Who you got in there

Well in your original you got Whoopi and Oprah Yeah But I don't know who's in the new one Both both versions Produced by Quincy Jones Oh I didn't know that That's cool

The late great Quincy Jones Yeah Tons Of Rashida Jones She carries on the The The Jones name That rare Jones name

Anyway Anyway I just wanted you Those comments Made me uncomfortable Enough to think About to send you An email And yes I am

and yes, I am a minority. Oh, I wasn't going to question that. His name is Jammies. Seems like it's fine to use his name. Yeah, I think you may be misunderstood, especially the nail salon thing. Me remarking about how they say Coke, or how this one particular person said Coke,

was not making fun of their accent. It was just a great time to say the word cock on the air. In a context where I'm not being disgusting. You know what I mean? Right, exactly. When can we get away with that? Yeah. I think that's an important little detail.

But the other bit about the immigration and them coming here to find a new life and all that, I got nothing but mad respect for it. And that documentary, big recommend. I don't even know where it's showing now. I think I saw it on Tubi. Let me see if I can find it. Nailed it. Doc.

It was, uh, it was, oh, it's still there. So it came out in 2018. It's called Nailed It. It's free on tuby.

Uh, filmmakers personal quest chronicles, the legacy of a 40-year-old Vietnamese nail salon and its influence on the $8 billion American industry it is today. Anyway, really fascinating stuff. It talks about, like, you know, the early, early days. And then some people, I wouldn't call it like underground railroad style, but it was kind of like that. Like, there were people just literally saving people from. They were just bringing them.

Yeah, exactly. They were just bringing them over. Yeah, it was really good. So recommend it. Okay. There's that. If you'd like to email us, you can do that. In this particular case, it came to us at the morning stream at gmail.com,

or you can go to the website and just use the built-in form that lets you send texts or voicemails. Any of those are acceptable. Today, there is a core at 1 p.m. So tune in for that. That'll be live here on the channel. Brian, of course, Coverville right after the show. Right after this, yes. Very exciting.

I'm going to start the timer for like, well, I guess I won't start the timer because we've got titles to do and all that. Coming right up, though. Yeah, yeah. Diana Crawl, or not Diana Crawl. That's Elis Costello's wife. another great musician, but no, Alison Krause. There you go. She's great.

She is great. Yeah. And you made me want to watch. Oh, brother were out there. Sure. Because I'm in the Odyssey mood, you know? Yep, exactly. You need to see Big Dan and his take on the Cyclos.

Them syrians loved him into a toad. I love Tim Blake Nelson. He's so good in it. Oh, my gosh. What a revelatory role for that guy. Really was, yeah. To then go on and be a million other groups. great versions of that.

Anyway, that's going to do it for today's show. You heard about, by the way, you heard about Elon Musk and wants to do an AI version of the Odyssey. Oh yeah,

I say, go for it. Well, first of all, here's my first initial reaction is he won't. That's number one. He won't do that.

But if he does, and he makes, if he does what he says, it'll do. Yeah. In the year, we were supposed to be on Mars already,

based on what he said 10 years ago. Right. I'll go ahead and believe this when I see it. But even if he did, it'll be shit. It'll be hard.

horrible garbage. It'll be so bad. Why do you even say this? You weirdo? I understand you can't stand black people. Maybe keep it at home. Exactly. You can trillionaire a hole.

Sorry, we didn't, they didn't cast the right people in the fictional world of the Odyssey. Yeah, I heard another grumpy, we'll call him an influencer who said they didn't like it because of the disjointed timelines of telling the story. Why Nolan had to tell the story at different times. and chop up the timeline. And I wanted to reach through the internet and throttle him and go, do you know anything about the source material? That's how it's told.

Yeah. It's core to it. You dip shit. And it's also, even if it wasn't, it's a common way of telling the story. Have you, does this person not like Pulp Fiction for the same reason? Yeah, probably, because they're dumb.

I can't understand if it's not linear. And the other problem is you can't tell if they're being actually dumb or performatively dumb. I don't know. Right, right. Are they just playing to their stupid influencer base? I don't know. But I'll tell you what would make me happy

is those Tate brothers getting nailed to the freaking wall in Europe if they get these charges to stick. If he really does have freaking C-SAM on his phone, freaking tape, put them in a British jail until the end of time. I am in. Yeah, yeah, good. Tate brothers. Don't get me started.

No, give me Jessica. get Tate and Mary Campbell any day. Oh, there's some great tates out there. Those are the tates I want. Yeah. And these are the Campbells. I like the Tate or Tots. Lettus now, Diary a Lettis, let us.

Let us take time away and leave. But we're going to do a song first. What do you got? Sure. Sunglow Steve wrote in and says, Dear Burn and Soothe, it's getting hot in Mississippi. So I'm asking the covermaster

to find the loudest cover of some like it hot he can find. Any day we'll do to commemorate the onset of five months of hot, sticky weather. Lave the show dough, sunglows Steve, zesty degree wave. Oh, I like it. Three words, yes. Well, I don't have a lot of covers

of some like it hot in my library. As a matter of fact, I've got one, but it just happens to be a really good one. As far as the loudness of it, that's up to you. Turn that knob on your computer, your phone, your whatever. Do you have a knob on your phone to turn it up? Well, if you don't get one, there's an app for that. And listen to this as loud as you want. This is some like it how to cover the song by the Power Station, and it is covered by Chin Chin from the buffet Libre Rewind 2009 collection.

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