The Morning Stream - TMS 3050: El Guapo's Guaco

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

Mourning the Loss of the Pickle Dog. Top or Bottom --- The Debate Continues. This is Why My Fries Are Never Hot. A Long Way to Go for a Chile Verde. Low Prices? Your god damn Right. There Are FOUR Joes. Slow Motion Pigeon Master. People want stupid articulated dragons. Speaking Roman. Cartel franchising. I need the LARGE tips. Don't Think of Oasis. Kiss the Chicken on the Lips. Less ass more Jack. Four Lefts with Travis and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.VIDEO: https://youtu.be/2DPhLBs0KsY Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for Tuesday, August 11th, 2000 and 26. I'm Scott Johnson. That is Brian Ibit. Good day to you. Tuesday. A good old Tuesday. Yeah, Tuesdays are all right. You know? I'm fine with Tuesdays. Except my brother, my brother's coming over today and I'm a little worried about what he's coming over for. Oh, no, really? Yeah, I don't know if that's just me. Like, 2026 has been filled with, you know, multiple deaths and issues and problems and all this.

Is it, uh, did he say, I need to come over and talk to you guys or is, is it like, uh, well, it's close, but see, part of this is, so this is my adopted Korean brother. That matters in the case that he's never fully culturally 100% matched what you would expect from most conversations. So sometimes he'll say something and it's easy to either take it right or wrong or whatever. And it's not because it's because he's not talking or speaking or conveying it in a way that you're used to. So it's one of those things kind of hard to explain. But here's what he said to me. He said, he says, hey, what is your schedule this week? And I said, where is it?

I said, hey, I'm actually good tomorrow if you want to swing by for lunch. some Kim will make lunch we'll hang out I got about two hours we could hang out and I'm very flowery in my reply not flowery but very descriptive you know yeah yeah yeah giving him the information right and he writes back says okay see you tomorrow or he says all right see you tomorrow exactly yeah it's it's right so I don't really know I know there's a couple of things going on that that he may want to talk about it may just be him going I'm trying to get my views up on YouTube but let's talk about what how people do that or you know it could be any of these things yeah i actually really don't know but uh anyway

that'll be today it's also you know there and obviously he's older than this but but it feels like the the current um millennial and gen z thing where if you put punctuation in it reads totally different and they get freaked out when like tristan gets freaked out when Tina use punctuation even if it's a period just saying okay see you tomorrow period right yeah like what's wrong yeah they all think something's bad right yeah yeah they all think something's bad right And they don't like thumbs up anymore. This was famously talked about somewhere on news or something, but they don't like the thumbs up anymore because they think it's always sarcastic.

It's like somebody, you know the thumbs up that Jennifer Lawrence did in that interview? Or she's like, that's my favorite. Yeah, that, okay, all right. Yeah, I think they have applied all of that emotion into the thumbs up emoji and they won't take it anymore. Which is annoying because I use that all the time. It's like, no, I love what you said. I don't want to do a long sentence saying that. I'm giving you a thumbs up.

To me, that's the most innocuous, positive sign. Exactly. Unless you're in what ancient Rome, it was flipped. This meant. Oh, did it really? I thought that was just, you know, whether they brought in the lions. I can't remember now. He survives.

No, he doesn't. Or kill him. Save him. It doesn't make any sense. But there is some thing with that. I can remember what it was. But the whole deal was that Ridley Scott got it wrong, Gladiator. and people are annoyed.

Because it was at the end when what's the one with the he got a lip scar. Joaquin Phoenix. Joaquin Phoenix is doing his whole like middle here. Yeah. And then the crowd, trying to see if the crowd wants him to kill him

or let him live. And when they say they kill him, he does the whole thumbs down. Well, a bunch of historians freaked out and said that would have been the opposite of what he would have done. He would have done a thumbs up in that culture. Well, I don't know how you even know that.

Yeah, no, okay. Well, I mean, obviously, there's got to be records. Like, here too far, the way you shall use the thumbs up to decree that we're going with the crowd to kill somebody. Yes, crowd. You're correct. I'm going against you. He lives. He lives.

It doesn't, you know, and they would intrinsically understand that thumbs down meant he lived. But because in a movie for a modern audience, we're not going to get it. Right. So I think he probably made the right. It's the right choice. Yeah. Just like it's, nobody's speaking.

Maybe, Roman. Maybe not so many of those right choices in Napoleon, but the right choice in Gladiator. Never did see that thing. Did you see it? I did. Some theaters and I enjoyed parts of it.

And then enjoyed less parts of it after I found out what was accurate, what was inaccurate. And I found it, you know, it was a very entertaining film. Speaking of Walking Phoenix, but, but, I don't know,

he didn't need to take, many liberties that I read about. Right. I mean, the whole, you know, the, the urban legend of, what was it? It was something to do with the shooting the Sphinx nose off. That was. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

That's right. Like that never happened. That's almost like a joke. Like every movie likes to make historical jokes about when the Sphinx's nose fell off. You see cartoons and all sorts of stuff. Like a spaceship hit it and knocked it off. That would immediately make me not be able to take your movie seriously after that. I'd just be like, unless that 100% happened.

Right. Don't put that shit in your movie, you weirdos. Yeah. Because that's just a parody. It is. Oh, it totally is. Yeah. Just even if, even if it was called or a historically accurate, leave it out.

Just because it's, it's distracting. It's like the, it's the, um, uh, will helm scream. Yeah. Yeah. Or other U. Cases I hate of this. The somehow, this is how the leaning tower of Pisa is leaning. Or.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Yes. This thing happened. That's what made the Liberty bell crack. Or whatever.

I freaking hate that shit. I think so, Monica's like, can you only enjoy things that are historically accurate? No, no, that's not what we're saying. We're saying that it just became a trope in the 80s and 90s, especially comedies, zany comedies, to make up funny ways that the Sphinx nose got taken off or the leaning tower pieces of start leaning. It's, you know, we're not saying. It's just sort of a joke. But also, I would say this, if the movie is positioned to say, here is a history lesson on this guy.

Here is a biography of Napoleon. Then please stick to the facts. Yeah. And then we're playing it as straight as possible. And you're going to have him shoot the nose off the freaking sphinx? Exactly. Go the other way, all whole hog. Make me another Bill and Ted and another one of the guys they find is Napoleon.

Let's go shoot some noses off. Like that fits. I mean, they did find Napoleon and he greatly enjoyed the water slides. He did. That's true. That waterloo. That's true. I like that actor I got for that.

I did too. He was great. He was perfect. Yeah, it really was. So if you, I don't know, I'm just saying for me personally, we're not, we're not going to prescribe this for anyone else. No. We're not saying how to feel or look or do.

But we're just saying, that was a dumb thing to do. That's all we're saying. If you want me to fall out of your movie, then either stick to the script to keep it historically accurate if you're doing a biography or go the whole other way. And Napoleon invented the happy face. He invented tennis shoes. He created ice cream, all that stuff. You're going to Forrest Gump this thing?

Exactly. When you've spent $300 million on your biopic. Gosh, dang, man. That just seems crazy to me. But all that said, I'm excited about his movie coming out next week with the dog stars. That book's so good. Cool. That's the only thing I'm worried about is just adaptation and how they're going to fit it all in there.

It's a pretty thick book. But it's really good. So looking forward to that. Get more of that tall kid. A little of that. Quali, Thanos. They're all there. Okay. Good. Good. Brian, would you go? Oh, I have a, I have a theory. Can I share a theory real quick? Please, tell me your theory. Yes. I've mentioned this before. There's this Mexican place that we like to go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm always jokingly saying, I think they might be run by or an asset of the cartel, the Mexican drug cartel.

Yeah. And I always have to explain to people, it's not because it's all. being run by very nice folks from Mexico. That's not what I mean. It is. And they appear to be a lot of family lines and stuff. But it's part of what I love about it. They're absolutely, it's wonderful to be there. There's just so nice every time we're there.

But every time I go, I have this question. I go at the busiest possible nights before. I've been there the busiest possible days before. Like days where you'd think a place like that would just be packed for either lunch or dinner or whatever it is. And every time I've ever been there, which had kind of been all times of the day, including breakfast. They,

uh, it, there's, there's usually us or me. Usually came with me. And maybe three other tables in this very big place. Mm-hmm. That is immaculate.

No way the rent here is cheap. Uh, the way they have it decorated, the kind of chairs they use. All fancy top level stuff, clean as place you could ever go. Okay. And somehow,

yet the menus are really really reasonable. So they're still selling. They're still selling a smothered, what do you call the smothered burritos with the pork? Chimichungas? Oh, like carnitas breed, like you're talking to a regular burrito? Are you talking like a...

Basically a regular burrito, but it's smothered in... And a salada? No, what's it called? Like a smothered burrito is smothered in. Chat, come on. Help me out here. I mean. Wet.

Yeah. I mean, all right. So it's like, you're talking about what it's smothered with? We call those, yeah, smothered britos.

Yeah. No, it's not that. It's like the... Is it deep fried? Is it not a tortilla? Is it something else? What is...

It's not the red sauce. It's the... Green chili? Green chili? That's... I think that might be where I'm headed, but it's called... Uh...

Shit. Chili Verida. Oh. No, that's it. Chili, Verde's Mother Burrito. That's it. Which is just Spanish

for green chili. Yeah, it really is. I could have gotten there so much quicker. Anyway, so they make these and they still only sell them for like six bucks.

And then they're bigger plates and everything. Totally reasonable. Like maybe maxing out at around 12 or 13 for the higher end stuff with steak or something and then medium things

anywhere between 8 and 10 for full meals. And it's just, wicked, reasonable, and it didn't go up during the pandemic. Like, it just stayed the way it is. And so I'm saying, and I've seen, okay, and I've seen a number of times where the door will swing open and a bunch of guys in suits and sunglasses will come in and go, really?

Yep, yep, this is true. And they'll go straight to the back. And then later come out the front. And they seem fine. They're not like looking gnarly. They're just, they're smiling and talking and mostly in Spanish. and and I'm just, what I'm trying to do here is not let my,

you know. Keep in mind, the ingredients to make your green chili smothered burrito is probably a dollar 12. That's true. No, that's true. So even with three people in the restaurant, if they're selling six of those. That's true,

but everybody, nobody's selling them that cheap. Like the cheapest I've found for that thing, I think is like $9.99, 12 bucks most places for just the basic one. So I don't know why. I guess what I'm saying is everybody else decided to jack their prices. They didn't. Yeah.

The interior has done nothing but improve. The kitchen's just immaculate back there. You can see it. I've never had better service in my entire life. I'm just saying like gobs mountains of drugs money go a long way to build a rad restaurant that never fails. Do you know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm probably dead wrong. and I have no proof of this. I think there's something, there's something to it. You know, the Heaven Dragon, which is the Chinese restaurant closest to us, it is like two blocks away. We can walk there. And it's really good.

We call it the Heaven Dragon just because that's funny. But dude there actually was somehow affiliated with the mob or the Yaku. Well, wouldn't be the Yakuza as Chinese, but some sort of connection. Maybe, yeah, something. and um wow uh yeah and so the owner still owns it and it's still the same owner but he's just not there the rest of the family runs it and uh i see how that goes the hand it's exactly he's a friend for the hand yeah the hand's got lots of friends and may as well be one of them now that's that's interesting so it's just i'm not even saying this is a bad thing i think you know i think the drug trade has a lot of

problems. It's not what I'm saying. But let's say I found out for sure or could confirm that what my suspicions are are true and that it's just sort of a laundering front or it's something else, whatever it is. Even if I found that out, I still feel like I would go there a lot and support them a lot because the people there are so nice. Like there's a, the place is kind of run by this lady in her 60s and she's just like our little Mexican grandma we get to go see every couple of weeks if we eat there. Yeah. And I want them to be great and everything to work out, even if El Guapo or whoever it is,

bankrolling thing, right? Sure. Just a little, little side note. Brian, you have Apple stories. I have ears to hear them. You do. Oh, very, very clever. Yeah.

Yeah, yesterday, while I was working, I'm like, oh, you know what? I need to clean my AirPods in the case. I mean, those things just gets gross. You can take the best care of your ears, and somehow your AirPods start looking like, like hell is what they start looking like. So I've got a little kit. I don't have it here next to me, but I have this little kit that's got a little brush, like some Q-tippy things with like a pointed end,

and then a little, like a really fine brush to get into the mesh areas and stuff. And basically what you do is you just get your AirPods out and you clean them. AirPods Pro out and you clean them like that sort of thing. Well, you know, you've got those rubberized tips now that go in your ear and have a little softer interface. This thing right here, right? That's that right there, exactly. And so you turn that inside out so you can clean behind that.

And then what I like to do is take that whole thing off. It comes off and you can get in there with the Q-tip or whatever and kind of get the gunk out from deep in the center of that thing. But if you're not careful, Scott, you just basically rip the whole rubber piece off of there. And then you're kind of stuck with a tip on there that just doesn't do anything. So I'm like, well, crap. I guess I got to go to the Apple store and just get a replacement. Good for that.

And decided to Uber yesterday afternoon, but I ended up right by the Flatiron's Mall, which is perfect. That's one of the closest Apple stores to me. And walk in there. And it's Darian. Darian, you may remember, worked there years and years and years ago and helped you get an Apple Pencil, the first Apple Pencil you got. Oh. Before the newer model with the fancier. That's right.

Because we couldn't, they were, they were really, you couldn't get them. They were really hard to get. And so he set two aside for you and me or did something to where he let us know they were available so we could pay for him. And then I picked it up and mailed it to you. Yeah, that was awesome. That guy, I still owe that guy a lot. That was awesome. Yeah.

He was still there. Whoa. This many years later, he's like, hey, like, oh my God, Darien. It's great to see you, man. And he actually tried to initially just hook me up with giving me, you know, oh, we've got extra, what size do you want? We've got extras of those in the back. And he checked and was like, well, we don't have any large.

So I ended up having to just spend the $12 and get the box of, you know, all the different sizes, just to get one size that I need out of there, but that's all right. 12 bucks. It's annoying. It's, you know, for as much use as I get out of those things, all right, a little maintenance. And then I can replace both of them. Sure. Yeah.

Why not? So the default, do they come with the default outer cone thing? And then you can choose the size that fits you best, right? Isn't that the idea? It comes with all four. When you buy it initially, it comes with all four sides. Okay. So you get to choose at the point of purchase.

You open that because I only use the other ones. I've never had these ones at the tip. I assume you've got to like a selection. of three to four, where do you land on, like, what kind of ear do you have? I got big ears, Scott. So you do the big, the big hunker. I do the largest. So do why.

I have to do that too. Yeah, I don't like that I have to do the biggest. It annoys me. It makes me feel like I'm John Bernthal without the paycheck. That's what it feels like. Right. But you know, because you feel like great, as I get older and these things get bigger, what am I going to do then?

If I'm already starting at the top, I've got nowhere to go. Yeah. Plus, I got this fat head of mine. It's already bigger than most. And so I already have to do. weird things with hats like if the future is going to continue to be weird little interchangeable cones for your ears then i'm yeah i'm not sure i'm prepared for the future did you did you did you find yours i remember seeing still i haven't seen i'm recording did you used the find

i did and it said they were last seen here or you know gave me my where i was in the house location uh yesterday at like five okay they were fully charged so i know that had i checked before i would have You know, I don't know why if I was the last time I had any meat from the thing. But it never left any car or anything. It didn't go anywhere. And I tried the beep thing. Yeah. Can't if it, if it worked, this thing is lost somewhere where I'm not hearing it because I never heard the beep.

It also took forever to go, oh, it didn't beep. Yeah, because we can't find it, but we'll beep when we find it. And then I walked around for a while and then it either just timed out or I don't know what happened, but it never beeped. So it didn't, it never did that thing to where it's like. like, okay, six feet in this direction or shows you the arrow, walk this way. Right. Kind of thing. Right.

Oh, bummer. And it's never done that thing where, like, I have a set to do the thing where it says, you are now apart from those. Like, what's I called? Same thing happens with my iPad. You've left this device behind kind of thing. There you go. Yeah.

And it's never given me that, which tells me that my theory that it's here somewhere still hold. I just, I don't freaking know. I have an air tag in my in my Kia. So that when, you know, if something, something God forbid were to happen to it, if somebody were to use a USB cable to steal the damn thing, then I'd know.

But every time I park somewhere and walk away from it says, your soul has been left behind. Oh, that's great. Yeah. That's great. You didn't even have to like change the name. It was just in there. It just was in there.

It's like, yeah, your soul has been left behind. I just had to give the air tag your name. I just said soul. I like car puns when it's your car. Totally is. Yeah, exactly. Stuff you have to do with your own car. I love that.

You are no longer carrying your soul with you. Yeah. You are soulless. All right. Well, we've got some news to cover. Yeah. Only a little. But we'll get to as much as we can because we got Travis coming up a little bit later,

a little trivia for Brian and I. I'm hoping all of his questions center around green chili. That's my hope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. get real lucky if we get that or I'll get terribly unlucky it sounds like I won't know what to do. I think I'll be very lucky if we get that.

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A McDonald's customer sues McDonald's. And this may sound a little familiar, except this time it's not coffee. Anyway, this customer sues Microsoft, McDonald's, over burns from extremely hot, in quotes, fries. Yikes. Yeah. No coffee this time. Just fries.

Let's see. A New York City woman is Suey McDonald's allegedly sustaining serious and severe personal injuries and burning burns to her mouth and her tongue as a result of being served extremely hot fries. This is a civil complaint obtained by the Independent in it. Catherine Luongo, right? Would you say that? I would say Luongo. Yep.

For sure. Blames the March 5th. incident, which occurred at McDonald's restaurant across street in Manhattan's Bryant Park on the employees who failed to provide her with a safe order of fries. I'd like a safe order of fries, please. Yeah, it's a weird thing to say, but.

Super safe meat, please. Yeah. She probably has a case. Remember the coffee one. Everybody. The coffee one, right. And everyone thought it was such a frivolous thing. And it really, you know, really wasn't.

This woman really got some severe burns. And she didn't even get the money that, you know, that the loss. suit one it was almost all of it went to a major portion of it went to the the lawyers and stuff yeah I think there was some whole thing where she barely broke even like it barely got her medical expenses covered and stuff yeah yeah which I'm glad of at least that but geez always all right so the fries come out I've seen them make it a million times right the fries are in the basket they dump it out onto that metal well they pull it out of the oil and I think they're supposed to hang it

there for a little while to let the oil drip off and maybe they didn't do that. Then you dump it on that, that metal thing where you cover it with salt and then use the little scooper to put it into, into fry boxes. And maybe they didn't just allow enough time for the oil to drip off.

And wasn't really the fries hot as much as it was the hot oil that was still on the outside of those fries. Well, in part of her case here, she'll have to provide evidence sufficient to say that this was out of the normal, right? So if they were just hot fries, which a lot of times I like,

I'm like, sweet, these are right out of the prior. Let's go. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, maybe she's got more, like medical reports and say, oh, no, her tongue was eviscerated or something like that. Exactly. That's what it's going to come down to is photographs of her tongue and her fingers. And I guess it wasn't, they're not talking about her fingers,

but mouth and tongue burns and then medical reports and stuff that say, yeah, these, you know, the burns are long, thin shapes that, are fry-shaped. In the courtroom, you can take a fry and walk up and go, open your mouth. This fits the scar exactly. If it fits, you must acquit. That's right.

I want a big surprise witness to be the McDonald's fry guys coming in the back. Like, Your Honor, I don't have them on the list, but I've got one surprise witness and points to the back door, and then the fry guys come in. Oh, man. Or grimace comes in, hey. Yeah, no, grimace would be good. Let's have grimace, and then somehow the hands.

burglar has to be in the court the same day or something like that. Robble, robber, robber. I'm in trouble again for some bullshit I pulled off. Right, right. All right. Let's do one final story. Okay. The Seattle police are searching for two men who parachuted from the space needle.

Oh, man. Wow. Brian's done something like this, but he was strapped. I was tied. I was connected to a cable the entire time, a guide wire. Yeah. I have a photo here somewhere. I don't want to.

I'm sure you do. It's one of my favorite... The Jesus pose with the hoist, like, right up my... Yep. I'm trying to see... Right up my netheres. See if I can find it real quick. Did I call it flying a bit?

Hold on. Jump. I think is what I called it. No. Strat. Maybe stratosphere. Maybe strata. That could be. I got to get better with my naming conventions.

Well, anyway... Oh, I can just... Let me narrow it. Okay. I think I found it. no. All right. I don't know why I don't have it.

I'm sorry. D. You know why? Because Brian looks cool in it. That's why I want to show this. You're up there in the sky. You know. Yeah.

Damn it. It was impressive, though. 2019. Catch it. Exactly. Yes. Anyway, let's see. They're searching for these two men and climbed over the glass of the

Wall City. Iconic space needle on Friday. Flipped over the edge and parachuted down 650 or 650 feet. of distance. That's a high, that's a high needle. It's a big needle. That's a big needle. Yeah. That would be bad if that needle dropped. It feels, I mean, it feels more dangerous. I mean, it's definitely more dangerous than skydiving because you've got less time to pull your shoot, right? You've got 605 feet. Yeah. Compared to being dropped out of a 2,000 foot high plane or something like that, like where you've got more time to pull your shoot and get your, get your whereabouts and get further

away from the structure and all the stuff there. But yeah, no, that's seems a little dangerous. It seems a little crazy. I wouldn't do it. Let's see. They bought regular Space Needle like tourist tickets at 850.

Let's see, that morning. They were seen on camera at the top level of Linneal, went to a restroom, came out with helmets on and went for it. Yeah, I mean, basically, once you've got your helmets and your gear on, you've, you've, you've, You don't stop. You go straight from the bathroom to the edge there. There was a, yeah, you mentioned it a stigma,

the Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie. We kept seeing trailers for this thing, and I don't think it's my jam comedy-wise, because I didn't laugh at any of the... What's the premise? It's based on a, what, a YouTube series or some sort of social media series with these guys and but one of the one of the bits that they do in the film kind of like jackass but more

staged not not as much stunty but more like youtube comedy scripted kind of comedy stuff oh um and one of the things is them talking about and and doing a jump off of the uh space needle with parachutes to land in the um uh whatever the the Seattle center um oh where the Supersonics used to play. Yeah, whatever that is. You used to know this. I know, I did too. Unless it could have changed hands too now.

Different name. City Bank Center or something. I can't remember what it was, but yeah. I forgot where they play. Yeah. Seahawks play there too? Is that a separate state? That's a different state.

That's a, yeah, that's a, that's a open, I don't know, actually, I don't know if the Seattle, where the Seahawks plays an open state, but it's a different place than the, than the basketball stadium. I wonder where the Seahawks get all their their bulk version of green highlighter to soak all those

uniforms and to make uniforms. Their color rush, it's so bad. I really don't like it. Honestly, it feels like you're playing a bunch of pens just out there highlighting the shit. Is it really called Climate Pledge Arena? Oh my gosh. Is it really?

Yeah. Is that an organization that fronts the name? I guess. usually what you do, right? Yeah. Ours is back to Delta Center after years of Delta leaving, but then they came back. But we just kept calling it that.

Key Arena, that's it. Oh, key, like key bank. Yep. Okay. Yeah, where the Cracken and the Storm play is the Climate Pledge Arena. The and I don't know what the stadium is called.

Lumen, T-Mobile Park. Could be. Or Lumenfield. Something's ringing. Field. Oh, yeah. Maybe Lumen is to help luminate the terrible suits they wear now. T-Mobile Park is where the baseball stuff is, the Mariners play.

Yeah. And Lumenfield is where the Seahawks play. And I can get no Verizon coverage when I'm in there. The irony. Yeah. How weird. All right. Well, that's your news.

And now we will, Sally Forth, I've got to find out where I'm at here. Here we go. We're going to bring a guy in here that you know and you love. And he goes a little bit, something like this. Where is it? This is Travis, and you'll do well to listen carefully to what he has to say. Don't tell me what I know, Travis. Travis is here.

Travis, what's going on? Hey, how's everybody? Hey, there was no high there. I was blown away by your change there. What happened there? You're not doing that. Oh, there you go. Wait, that's all.

Okay. The suspense. Patience is a virtue. Anyway, hey, look who it is. Travis. He comes here about once every three weeks, and we do a little trivia against Brian and I. Brian offers up plenty of trivia for you guys. I do. I'm a provider of trivia.

Yep. Now he's a consumer of a... No, you're a... Let's say, you're a fixer. No, you're a... Well, whatever. You're going to get a question. You're going to answer it. Yeah, exactly.

I don't know what the word is for that. I'm a trivia customer instead of a trivia vendor. There you go. Yes. So, Travis, where are we at on the standings, like the leaders? So we are, after the month of July, we are at 4 to 3 in favor of Scott. So it is close. Okay.

All right. Nobody is mathematically eliminated yet. This is a Brian... Yep, being the key term. Yeah. This is a Brian starts month, by the way. Oh, nice. Let's do it.

Just so we know. Cool. Okay. So we're going to start with what we always start with now, which is describe the movie using the wrong characters. So, Brian, I'm going to give you a description from IMDB of this movie using the wrong character names. I want you to tell me what movie that is.

All right. Corrupt police officer, Johnny Blaze, and Naval Commander, Lieutenant. Dan joined forces to investigate both the assassination of the Secretary of Defense and the disappearance of a beautiful stranger. Okay. Well, I mean, I know the actors you're describing. However, the movie, boy. That is one of those like 90s or 2,000 things that had a very generic sounding. action title. I'm going to say,

I mean, it's, I don't want to say, I don't want to say names. I'm pretty sure Scott's going to have this. If I, even if I say the, the actor names that I,

that I know. But, um, uh, let's say, I don't even have a, I don't even have a bad guess. Uh,

let's, let's say, uh, uh, John Q, even if I'm what's with that, because that's Denzel Washington, but right.

Yeah. That is incorrect. Yeah. Scott, for a steal, do you think you know what it is? Can I get the names one more time, just or the characters one more time? Johnny Blaze and Naval Commander, Lieutenant Dan. Okay. I could have made it a lot harder by just going by Dan Taylor.

Yeah. Nobody would know who Dan Taylor. I don't remember who, I wouldn't remember Lieutenant Dan's last name is Taylor. Yeah. Is that even true? That is his last name? It is. That's how little I knew it.

I had to question it. Yeah. Okay. I'm just going to. Brian's right. This one's hard. Johnny Blaze. That's fantastic four character, right? So, huh?

Maybe. Is it you said? I don't know. That's Johnny Storm. Cause Sue Storm. Oh, Johnny Blaze. See us where I'm hung up is on Johnny Blaze. All right. I don't know. Mandy.

Mandy. Oh, well, right. Right. Right actor. Right actor, wrong movie. The movie we were looking for is the Brian DePoma classic Snake Eyes. Wow. We saw that, or no, we haven't seen this for film seconds.

It keeps coming up as a possibility. It just never did it. Yeah. I forgot that that was the premise of Snake Eyes. I really, if you would have told me to describe what Snake Eyes is, because I saw it a long time ago, I would have said, Nicholas Cage is a gambler and does something in a casino. Yeah.

And I mean, it sort of is, but also isn't exactly what that movie is. But I'm always using what is in IMDB under the title. Right. So, all right. Scott, now you get a movie with the wrong characters. Castor Troy, Garth Algar, and Jay Sherman have their plans to rob a bank on Christmas Eve foiled by the residents of a friendly Pennsylvania town. Okay, well, I'm seeing a pattern here because you just mentioned another Nick Cage character. I'm Castor Troy.

I can't pitch for hours. It's a heist movie? I mean, never let a horse pick your winner. That's it. I want to see a movie with that title, though. Yeah, yeah. I don't know who should be in it or who should make it.

I don't know what it would be about, but I just, I green lighted on the title alone. It's very, that was the story of Zach and Mary make a porno, by the way. Oh. Was that Kevin Smith was like, yeah, I'm working on this script. Oh, what is it?

Zach and Mary make a porno. Yeah, all right. Really? Don't you want to hear what this is about? No, no, no. The title says it all. I never saw that movie. Is that movie good or is it dumb?

Well, yes. It's like a Apatal style comedy, right? Yeah, I mean, it's a Kevin Smith movie. But I enjoyed it, but it is pretty silly. All right. All right. Brian, do you have a guess? So tell me, I might, I'm,

Dana Carvey is in this thing? Give me the names again? Yeah. Caster Troy, Garth Algar, and Jay Sherman. Okay. So, Jay Sherman, it stinks. It's John Lovitz. Oh.

I love him, so. Oh. Is this hot to trot? Oh, hot to trot. No. No. Okay. Damn it.

Nope. The movie we were looking for is trapped in paradise. Trapped in paradise. I don't know. that movie at all. Yeah, it was 94, I think. I think it was right after Cage did guarding Tess.

And I do remember that. Yeah, I remember Garing Tess. Yeah, if you were to tell me this movie, I'd still don't believe you that there's a movie with Danny Carvey, Nicholas Cage. Yeah, and they're brothers, and they go to rob a bank. Really?

Then they get stuck there and hilarity ensues. It has one of my favorite lines. It was in every trailer for it. So maybe that's why it's so burned. into my brain because I saw the trailers for this like all the time was they're going to leave and he's like well what did you do? He said I just

followed the map I made four lefts he goes you idiot four lefts is a circle all right there's some rings a bell in that line I don't know why I know that line but I don't know this movie at all hot to trot had Bobcat Goldthwaite well as I'm visualizing it again as a a crime movie where you've got

Dana Carvey a crime comedy where you've got Dana Carvey and John Lovitz and a horse, but apparently, apparently I've got different movies in my head than actually exist. Yeah. These have been, these have been both been pretty tricky. They have. I want to do a little deeper cut.

Good challenge. Yes. So we've got our round three musical round. We're going to do kind of what we did last month, which is songs in reverse. Okay. So I've got five songs. We'll go back and forth. Brian, you're going to start.

So you will get to hear it first. If you don't get it, Scott can steal. We'll do best of five. So here's your first. song, Brian. Okay. Is that cocaine by Eric Clapton?

That is correct. All right. Damn. Not sure I'd have had it. Yeah, that was really good. All right, Scott, you get to start this one. This is your song. Okay.

Sweet Home Alabama. Exactly right. That is correct. That was Leonard Skinnerd with Sweet. home Alabama. Nice. All right, Brian. Your son.

All right. Oh, that is, can I get it one more time? Sorry. You may get one more. Okay. Yeah, that is some 90s thing that was, uh, um, it is right there. Um, it is right there. Oh, my God, I'm not going to be able to pull it out.

A sparkle horse. I don't know. Sparkle horse. Sparkle horse. Sparkle horse. Sparkle horse. Incorrect. Scott, do you have a guess? I can't be some favorite.

That's it. That is it. Yes. Do I need the band or the song? Yes. Well, that's Goo Goo Goo Dolls. I got to remember the name of the song, though. I don't know that they'd understand. I don't know the name of this damn thing. That they'd understand.

the song So close You got the right band It was Gougu dolls The song is Iris Frick I don't even know if he sings That word in the sun does he

Maybe in one of the verses or something It's not in the chorus Yeah No it's not in the chorus at all All right Travis coming in with hard mode On his head today Yeah

Geez Louise To zero Scott Here's your song You get to start this one Oh Byrne Dant

Dun, dun, dun, dan, dun, dun, dun. Some. Need name. Yeah. It's good melody. I like that melody. Name and band again? I will give you name.

If you don't get the band, I will understand. Something, something, something. Oh, low rider. Is that it? Very good. Very good. By war. Yeah.

War, right? Yeah. Yep. If he wouldn't have gotten that, because I was thinking, I was thinking it was one of two things. I was thinking it was low writer by war or I was thinking it was rock and roll lifestyle by cake. Oh, wow. No, you know what? Yeah.

No, you're not wrong. Here's what's funny, though. I wouldn't have got it if I had to do the band. I would have lost that point because I don't know who war is. I had no idea. Most people don't. That's why a little lax on that one. My favorite song by war, which is just so funny is why can't we be friends?

Right? Because your name is war. Yes. It's those same guys. Same guys, yeah. I got to do some studying about war. Taken out of context. Oh, right.

Brian. Yeah. Brian, the final song in this round starts with you. Oh, Jesus. That is... I got it. I'm sure I get the song, though. You might get gents to steal,

because all I'm coming up with is, is Don't look back in anger by Oasis and I know it's not that. Make you guys work this month. You really are. I got nothing. I'm going to say,

I know it's not, don't look back in anger by Oasis, but I'll just say it just to get it out. It's always tough when you start down a road and it's hard to like a lot of that. It really is. It totally is exactly. It's like,

nope, get Oasis and that out of your mind. mind and then that's all you can think of is oasis and don't look back in anger all right scott i think that was elton john and i think it was i think it's rocket man i think you're right correct that was rocket man who very good well done uh so if you haven't figured out the theme by now it's pretty obvious it is august which is cage pelusa month for me Pulooza. Yeah. So cocaine by Eric Clapton was used in the movie, Lord of War.

Oh, great movie. Yes, it is. Sequel coming. Oh, what? Him and, what's his name? Both of them? It's on his list as in post-production. Okay.

It's called Lords of War. Okay. And so Eric Clapton's cocaine. Then we had Leonard Skinner with Sweet Hope, Alabama, was featured in Conair. Okay. Gougu Doll's Iris was featured in City of Angels. Oh, I kind of liked that movie more than I should have. It was actually pretty decent.

I do like the video I saw where somebody recut the trailer with horror music. And that movie is a horror movie. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. Lowrider by War was featured in Gone in 60 Seconds. And then Rocket Man was mentioned in The Rock. Oh.

When he blasts Tony Todd out a window calling him The Rocket Man. That's right. Nice. I always forget that's Tony Todd in there. Yeah. That movie's stacked. I love it so much. John Forsyth in there being a butthole. The guy from what's it called?

I can't think of it. West Wings in there. It's great. Great movie. Yes, it is. Anyway, sorry. So Travis, where are we now then? What does it stand?

We are in a deadlock tie with nobody winning either of the first two rounds and you guys going two and two. Two, two, and one in the music round. So we have two rounds left. Round four, we're going to do a movie. I'm going to give you cast members in this movie, none of which will be Nicholas Cage. Okay.

And then you have to tell me what movie it is. So let's see. Scott, you will start our bidding. I have five other cast members of this movie that are not Nicholas Cage. What do you think you need? I'm going to try for... Wait, remind me, if I say a number, then Brian can say, I'll do it and blah, and I can come back and say name it or I'll do it.

Right? Correct. Okay. Two then. Then I'll say one. And I'll say, do it in zero, Scott. Do it in zero. Oh, yeah, it should have been three.

Yep. Well, I'll say two because that's what I said. All right. So, Brian, you get one actor from this movie. All right. See, you can get it. Aaron Taylor Johnson. Oh, geez.

Okay. Can I steal if he doesn't get it? You'll get a second actor. Okay. And then you can steal. Yeah. I'm just trying to think of a film. All right, trying to think of a film with Aaron Taylor Johnson from, I mean, I think I know the TV show that he was on.

That's all I know him from. But something with Nick Cage in it. Let's say, honeymoon in Vegas. Yeah, I didn't think so. Scott, you get a second actor. You can tell me, I think I know it, but go ahead and go ahead and do it. Second one you'll get is Mark Strong.

Oh, yeah. So this is kickass. Kick ass. That is correct. Yeah, I knew it at the very beginning. And I always forget that it was, he was, what did he play? He played character Big Daddy. Big Daddy. Oh man, that was a weird role. Yeah. That was about

that time. That was about the time we said, oh, maybe Nick Cage can come be part of us again. You know? And then he starts seeing him and stuff like this. This is all very adjacent to like Spider-N-War, at least the cameo was. And now it got its own show. But like his roles like that, they all spun

out of that big daddy business, I think. So I forgot, like I knew Chloe Grace Moretz was in that movie, Christopher Minzplas. I forget that Evan Peters is in that movie too. Oh, is he really? Who's he playing? Evan Peters.

He plays like the best friend. Speed runner. Yeah. He's like his buddy. That's how they do that in these things though, right? Yeah. Their names like Speed Runner and Flight Man. Right.

All right, Brian, round five. I'm going to give you a movie cast members that do not include Nicholas Cage. Okay. And you're going to guess. So how many do you think? you think you're going to need. This is cast members. Okay. Um, I will, you know what, I'm going to do too. It did, yeah, feels like the right, the right number. Scott? Uh, let's say do it in two. Let's see how this goes. All right. Okay. Okay. Now, bear in mind, Scott, you will not get an

extra actor name. No, I know. To try and steal. Okay. I'm good. So, Brian, here's your two actors that are not Nicholas Cage from this movie. Okay. Rain Wilson. Russell Brand. Jeez, Louise. This one was a little deeper cut, I will admit, but... Is it pig? No, but similar era. It's in that era.

Scott, you got a guess? Rain Wilson, Russell Brand. What's that newish one called where he's in the car? Oh, the one with Nicholas Cage in a car? Is that one where he comes back from hell? No, not that one. The one where he's more recent. He's sitting with Pedro Pascal's in the car.

Oh, the unbearable lightness of being. That. Or the massive weight of unbeatable talent or something like that. Unbearable weight of massive talent. Massive talent. Is that the answer? Shit. Nope.

The movie we were looking for also features Will Saso, Paul Shearer, and Wendy McClennon. Covey, that was Army of One. Oh. Oh. Which was roughly the same era. I don't either, Brian. That was a,

I want to say that was directed by David Charles. Really? I don't know. Never even heard of it. I am looking at this movie poster and saying this was a real thing.

This is not AI generated. No, it's real. Terrible folk cover. Really awful. Oh, yeah. No, it's bad. Wow. For sure.

And it's, guess where it is, everybody, Tobe. That's right. To be. I guess it was a couple years before Pig. That was 20.

I mean, same, like you said, same era. Yeah, same, invention time for him. You could have told me,

you know, giving me all the pieces to the movie where he's in somebody's dream and he keeps showing up in their dream, which I recommended on recommendals.

And I still couldn't tell you the damn name of it, though. Dream scenario? Yeah. Is that what it's called dream scenario? Yeah.

That was a really good one. It was a really good one. But, yeah, again, a really weird role for Nicholas Cage. And it seems a strange thing, a weird role for Nicholas Cage. Right. This is the standard for that guy. Yeah. That is what I like about him, though.

And that's why I do Cage of Palooze every year, because you get something like Dream scenario, and then you also get, you know, snake eyes. Right. Right. You know, it's fine. But, like, that was the movie that kind of killed his mid-90s action run for a couple of years. Where does Wicker Man land in that? I always thought that was the thing that killed it.

I mean, that was 10 years later almost. Oh, was it? Oh, was it? Oh, so that's actually during his rebuilding era. He's not... Yeah. And it's been ebbs and blows, but the thing is, like,

that was around the time where he just started cranking stuff out. He was doing five or six movies a year where he would be in them. Direct the DVD stuff, all that stuff. A lot of that. I think that was in his... I got to pay taxes.

Yeah. He had some weird tax stuff and debt he had to do. Debt. You know, well, when you're buying million-dollar comic books. Yeah. And then you're not making million-dollar movies. Right. You better turn that around.

Yeah. Well, Scott, that means that you take a five-to-three lead. How did that happen? Because you were the one to win around. I can't believe I got a music one. You recognize kick-ass. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that one came right away to my head, but I don't know why I associate them so easily.

And I'm getting my, I got my Aaron Taylor-Johnson confused my Aaron Taylor-Thomas, is my problem. Oh, wait. Well, Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Because you said TV shows. Oh, he's the kid from. Yeah.

Yeah. So I was visualizing exactly tool time. I can't think of any words today. I know. Somehow I won. I don't go to it. That's what I was getting confused there. And I'm like,

okay, God, it must have been some kids movie where Nicholas Cage is like a dad or something. And so that's where I, Craven ruined me for Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah. Like,

I don't trust anything. from him anymore. It did kind of smudge things a little. I thought he was great 28 years later, and I think he... Yeah. Oh, he was. Yeah, really good in that. He's getting lots of things. And honestly, he's just... He's not the problem with Craven. No, he really isn't. There's a lot wrong with Craven. Yeah. But he's not... He shows up and plays the role, no doubt. Yeah. But, um, just, yeah. When they had the whole scene in Craven where they, uh, they basically used a static image and animated the mouth clutch cargo style. Yes, yes.

Oh man, that bugged me so much. And I saw that in the theater. And it like my reaction was just what now? Hold on. Can't bring it back for reshoots. We'll just do this. It was the woman, right? It was the, yeah, it was yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I can't think of her name. I could either. Ava Mendez? No.

No. No, but it was. No, too, too young for Ava Mendez. Yeah. reminds me of her, though. Yeah. Like a young her. I didn't need the tiebreaker, but I want to play a quick over-under tie-breaker, just because I thought this was fun. So Nicholas Cage has, to date, not counting in production or about to come out,

120 acting credits. What I want to know is, Brian, I'll have you put our guests and set the line. What is this collective rotten tomato score? Oh, it's going to be a bad average, I think. How many times do you think he's played a character by the name of Joe? Oh, interesting. Okay. Oh, I like this a lot. Yeah. Because there's at least one because he was in a movie called Joe.

Joe, yeah. All right. I like this a lot. Out of 120 films, I'm going to say he's played a character named Joe 18 times. All right. Scott, do you think it was higher or lower than that? Brian picked a very reasonable number. Like it's a logical, rational answer if you don't know it.

I'm going to go a little crazy. We're going to kiss the chicken on the lips or whatever they say for good luck. I'm going to give this more. I'll say it's more than 18. More. Shit. Believe it or not. And this surprised me.

Is it just the one time as Joe? The movie Joe. Four. Oh, what? That is so much lower than I thought. It was lower than I thought. Yeah. What is that?

Is that like a kind of a Mandela effect thing where we were, uh... It could be. Also, like, he's got credits where he plays characters like The Surfer or Longlegs or the general. I mean, I would think that, God, there's going to be a lot of Joey's and Josephs and, you know, and stuff like that, but... Yeah, but going through it, I only found four. It was Joe in the movie Joe.

He played a character named Joe in a movie. movie between worlds that came out on video on demand. Like it was a straight to video and it was, it was, don't, just don't. Trust me on this. He played Joe in Bangkok Dangerous. Oh. And we saw that one.

We did. I think we did. Joe Enders in Wintockers. Oh, wind talkers. That had, that was a John Woo Deal, right? Yep. Yes, it was. Yeah, I kind of like that.

It was a weird pick for him, though. It's like, hey, we want to make a really cool biopic of the history of the Native Americans who translated all the codes and everything. And help us win the war. And you're like, you know who should do it? Slow motion pigeon master freaking John Woo. That's a weird pick, but I still love his movies and I don't care. I'm just putting it in. And that movie's a lot of fun.

The thing I like about Cage is he give it and he taketh away. Like, you can watch him in, you know, leaving Las Vegas. And it's worthy of the acting. Oscar that he gets are Lord of War and then he'll turn around and do between worlds or gunslingers. He got paid.

Vampire or something. Yeah. Or that what was that not accountant? It was the it was like that. Was it? The weatherman? No. The John Moom, no, the John Mu movie he did with when I say he. Who am I talking about?

You're thinking of Aaron. Aaron, maybe? No, Aaron, who played Harvey Two-face? Aaron Eckhart. Aaron Eckhart? It was a John Woo thing. No, you're thinking that's Affleck. That wasn't...

Was it Affleck? Affleck was the accountant. Yeah, the accountant, but there was also paycheck. A paycheck, that's what I'm thinking of. I almost said payback, which is a whole other movie. It's a whole different one. But here's the beauty of paycheck. It's terrible, but visually striking.

Like, it's like, wow, look at the direction on this thing. But man, what a shit movie that was. it's incredible to look at Cage's filmography and just pick a year in the 2010s and you'll find like 2016 he made one two three four five six five movies and he voiced himself in a video game.

Damn. Wait, what video game did he voice himself in? Can I guess? By daylight. Oh yeah. Oh, interesting. They did a whole cross. That was so dumb.

Really? They did a whole crossover with Nick Kay. because normally Brian, this is a game where it's like asymmetric five of you or four or whatever it is versus the killer. And the killer is can be skinned like Jason or Freddie or they have cross-os or all. Jocelyn plays at a ton. You've probably seen her. Didn't they make a, they made a movie too recently. Or there's announcement of one or something like that.

Maybe that's it. Yeah. Until dawn, you might be thinking of which is a different game. But it's very similar. But anyway, it's more of a multiplayer thing and it's like four on three. You're just trying to survive the night. And you have tools and he has special. tools or he or she whoever the serial killer monster is and they decided to do a

crossover where it was freaking Nick Cage yeah and I to this day don't understand who's in charge really weird yeah really really so weird anyway go play it I guess everybody Jay Fungastic said Nick Cage would have made a great Vincent Vega thoughts I think I think about his character in Wild at heart and that's you know that's yeah that is tangential that is borderline Vincent Vega. Yeah, but I think we're missing Jay's joke here.

He would be a great Vincent Vega who played Vincent Vega. Yeah. It's a faceoff joke. Oh, oh, oh, gotcha. There's layers. I did not pick that up. Jay, Jay, we're, it was too,

it was too good to let go, man. That was really good. I went right by me and I just went straight for visualizing him and eject that symbolizes his individuality. I liked it. You were the artsy review we had to.

Yes, exactly. Exactly. It was good. Combining Nicholas Cage and David Lynch, genius. It really was, yeah. Although, man, I saw that in the theaters, and the scene where he bashes the guy's head against the marble floor over and over again,

still haunts me. Like, very few times do I have to turn away from the screen in the theater? And that one I had to was like, oh, can't watch that. Oh, yeah, that sounds awful. I felt it. Every funk and the squishy sound and everything.

Yep. Ain't nobody want that. Oh. Also, I remember watching that movie for the first time and after seeing Willem Defoe in it, I was like, I need to go take about 17 showers. No kidding. Like Purell City. Oh, gosh. Yeah.

I love how he plays that stuff. He's really creepy and good. Hey, Travis, before we cut out of here, can you tell people where they can find all your content so they know where to go and what's up? Absolutely. Go to TVsTravis.com. It's got the links to all the podcasts that I'm doing. I'm in the middle of Cajapalooza, 2026, the 8. 8th annual Cage of Palloo,

I can't believe they've done this year. And I'm nowhere near out of movies yet. So that'll be fun. There's also, you know, other shows, including lost luggage. There's a link to it from there and all of that. And if you're going to be at DragonCon in a few weeks, come find me. I will be there.

I've got a bunch of panels I'm doing. Including watching, I'm making some friends of mine watch Project Elf for the first time. What is Project Alph? Project Elf was a made-for-TV film based on Elf. on Alba. The sitcom. Oh, I know what Alph is. That's weird.

I never did it. A couple years after. 1995 made for TV movie. And it's got... Miguel Ferre is in it. Miguel Ferre. Ed Bagley Jr. Martin Sheen.

Ray Walston. I don't have cameos in this thing. It's incredible. All right. I didn't know any of this was the case. That's crazy. That's the movie that I'm doing there. And I'm going to be on a bunch of other panels, including I just got pulled into one on a box

office bombs. So, nice. I have no idea what, what exactly they want to talk about. They were just like, hey, we want you on this panel.

Another, another shocker for everybody before we let you go. Project Alfe is currently streaming on Tobe. No, surprise. Yeah.

Tube should just rename itself to Cage. Yeah. They really ought to. Well, Travis, don't, don't you go renaming

yourself to anything else. Stay out of trouble and we'll see you next time. Bye. Always good to have him here. I get to record with Travis and Phil and Redfraggle today.

We're doing another lost Loss Luggage episode. Nice. How far is today? No, tomorrow's Wednesday. Today is, yeah, we post it tomorrow and the tomorrow episode that's getting posted. See, I can never remember because we're several weeks ahead to allow for editing

and post-production, all that stuff. So I can't know what episode is about to get posted. But we just watched the other 48 days, which is previously on the other side of the Island. Yeah. It was an amazing. That's a trick. That's a trick. A lot of shows you use now, where you don't expect it. You didn't know where you were going somewhere else. You didn't know the world expanded in this way. And so at the time, Loss does this. I feel like no other shows were doing it. And it was just like mind blown. And now I see it in everything, everything from

breaking bad, a better call Saul. These shows all use a similar trick. And it's, you have to just credit loss for a lot of that, I think. Totally. There's like a formula for a while there with, um, even Apple TV shows, it seems like the penultimate episode in the series. Like you've got this great lead up to the climax. And then the second and last episode is a total flashback episode or history episode saying, oh, what took place before the first episode of the show? And then your final episode is, oh, picking up from where we left off with that climax. Yeah.

It's, I think it's a, they deserve credit for stuff like that. And there's more than just that, right? Like there's so much misdirection, mystery box, all of it. It feels like it just innovated in so many ways. Yeah. Guys, we got a quick email to do because I held it from yesterday. I'm going to do it now. Okay.

Let's get it. Let's get it out of here. All right. This is about the jugs of pee. Dear Sax and Banjo, when bands do covers during concerts, I'm assuming it's easier to get permission from the original artist or label, but also perhaps avoid some level of royalties because it isn't recorded and released, right? Does it get more complicated if they are recording the live performance and or releasing it as a cover album?

Even more complicated if they include the original artist on stage for a collaboration, i.e. Zach Brown Band from the road, which includes covers from Metallica Queen, the Beatles, Beastie Boys, The Who, Aero Smith, and Jimmy Buffett, to name a few. Most fondly of your recorded proceedings, though, Road Rashing Canada. Nice. Brian, this is a big question for you. no idea how this stuff works, but I find it fascinating. And that Zach Brown band album is fantastic. It's all there, like every show they do live covers,

and so they just put one album out. There was live, all their live covers. That's from the road, just so I mark, I want to put this on my list. All right, yeah. Cool, I'll check it. So here's the cool thing. If you're a band and you're putting on a concert, you can cover whoever, whatever you want,

without getting licensing. the venue is who pays for the ASCAP C-SAC, BMI, royalties. They're the ones who they report. So basically every gig, the band gives the venue, whether it's Red Rock's Amphitheater or Joe's Good Time Saloon, which has a stage in eight tables, the band gives the venue owner a track list, a song list. And just as part of their,

If we're going to have live music, we have to report these things every month to, every quarter, to all the CSAC, BMI, ASCAP, all those labels. I never would have guessed live music was getting that tax on it. Not tax, but their chunk like that. That's crazy. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, unfortunately, it means these venues have to pay these, you know, these agencies a certain amount to have live music in their, in their bar, in their concert venue, et cetera. Now, if the band wants to then release that, then they do have to pay.

Then they're going to be paying royalties themselves for every copy of the album that gets released or sold. I don't know about streamed. I think there's an alternate version of that for only streamed. There's something with small creators where they can create a cover of a song on their YouTube channel and not worry about it. If they're not selling it. Maybe that's it. And maybe it's YouTube that kind of intermediaries there

with any kind of revenue or something. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. It gets complicated with the internet in a big way real fast. Yeah, it really does. It's already complicated.

Which tell me about it. I know. I live that life. But I don't, you know, sometimes don't even think about it. I just pay these agencies every twice a year.

And, gosh, it seems like C-SAC, it just feels like is jacking things up $25, 50 bucks every year. It drives me nuts. Slow, slow flation.

or something. Yes, exactly. Like maybe people won't notice. Like a frog in a boiling thing. Exactly. I was going to tell you, I totally forgot about this before we go, because it reminded me of it. There was, I don't know if it was a glitch at Spotify or intentional or not. I did get a message saying something was erroneously flagged and we didn't need to worry about it. But anyway, normally with them, I might get once, twice a month, if that, a notice saying, hey, this, this, this, this, this. song was scanned or this episode of Scan, I found a song in there. And I say, well, we have the rights because it's the whole stuff you were just talking about.

I click it, hit submit, done. They don't want to ever bug me again. It's not a big deal. I don't mind doing it. They give you three days to respond or they delete the episode. They're just a little, it's all robots. So it's not even really people. Right. The other day, I got 1,800 plus take down song notices.

No way. 18. Yeah. Oh, my God. And they were all, like two of them were core for something we played, there, I don't know what it was on video, and then all the rest of them were TMS songs from thousands of episodes that we've done. And I'm like, you're going to make me, they don't have a way to go select all approve. I've got to go to each one. Yeah.

You have to explicitly do it. I had to do that. So, yeah, Spotify just flipped a switch on something. And I got them for Coverville soundography and lost luggage. Kind of all at once. All at once. So. And unfortunately, like, we've.

We've got, so for lost luggage, we've got this royalty-free music from, I can't remember the guy's name, but Amy and Travis found it. It's perfect. It's exactly what we need for the show. And it's fully licensed, and this guy even has on his website a thing saying, Spotify is going to do this thing. All you have to do is go in there. Kevin McCloud, thank you. TV's Travis, of course, Clive MacLeod, of course TV's Travis knows it. Yeah, duh.

All the McLeod's are clear with Travis. Exactly. like in each episode I then have to do that same process for each time the song or each song so some every episode has two songs the same two songs and I have to go click click click click click click

each one and go through and say this license this person this choice it's like oh it sucks it's easier it was terrible and I ended up doing all of them by hand took literally a couple hours I'm sure it did just turned on some TV show and kind of corner of my eyes

it, you know, as I did it. Yeah. But that sucked. And then I got a message saying, there may have been one or more messages sent out erroneously. If we did that, we apologize. I'm like, you sent me 2,000 of them almost. Yeah, yeah. You might have sent me 1,800 erroneous ones. Fucking psychopaths. For Coverville, it's like, well, I'm not going to go through because, you know, I get emails from the labels saying, yeah, you can totally play our music. And if it comes down to a lawsuit, boom, I've got that to show people. I don't, there's not an equal thing that I can just copy and paste into Spotify.

So for those, I just say, fine, pull the show. I don't care. It's, I don't get most of my listeners on Spotify anyway. Yeah, I'm of the ever-growing opinion that there are two S's in podcast history that have messed with the system and made it worse. One is Stitcher. Thankfully, they're gone in that form now. Thank goodness.

And the other one is Spotify. They do weird shit. Their approval stuff is weird. Their tools suck. Right. They're back in people. I can upload my ASCAPB of Mines CSEC license for songwriting royalties.

Just let me put that up there. And that would take care of probably 80% of these stupid things. Just garbogio, man. Yeah. Makes me mad. They make all their money off. You know, they have Joe Rogan. All right.

Well, how about the rest of everything else? Great. Brian, let's play a song. We got to play a song. Okay. Get out of here. Okay. Allow me to pull up my notes on what song we will be playing.

Okay. This is good. This is, let me make sure. Yes. good. Cynthia, Sam, Sedona Sam in the rare times that they're in the

in chat. I'm one of your olds. Turning 70 has really messed with my mind. I mean 70. How does Gary do it? Anyway, I just want to thank you for creating such a great community.

Growing up as the weirdo and the family, it's wonderful to find such a great bunch of people who understand. I'm the weird old lady that did the John Snow as my costume. I know exactly. Oh, yeah.

Yep. She's on. I wouldn't say she's not weird at all. She's awesome. I mean, she's are kind of weird. Yeah, you belong in our weird.

We're all weird down here. So much fun looking forward to the next gathering of nerds, Sam, I am. Very cool. So she says, as a child of the 50s and 60s, or as I am a child of the 50s and 60s, pick something from that. Or if all else,

Queen, because any cover by Queen is awesome. Well, you probably loved my episode a couple weeks ago on Coverville, which is the 95% of their final concert in cover form. So all these covers of Queen classics that you want to hear. So I won't do Queen.

I will do a song that is older. Originally, the song was done by Lloyd Reese, but probably best known by Johnny Tillotson. Those names probably don't mean anything to 99% of our audience, but they're going to be the olds out there that know this one. This is a band called Honey, Honey, and a song called Poetry in Motion. And if you're not familiar with the name or the original artist, as soon as you hear this song, you're going to be like, oh, I know this song, this is fun.

And hopefully Sam I Am thinks it's fun as well. Here's Honey, Honey and poetry in motion. When I see my baby, what do I see? Poetry. Poetry in motion. Welcome for the other episode of the T.M. Squeeze it out of the quail. Suck it out with your lips.

Here's the thing. Oh, God, don't do that. I'm not here by King of the Hill reruns. They make you happy, Bobby. Bobby, damn it. Blue hand. Does not come poop. Hey, look at me.

I'm half naked. You make your CPAC, CPAPs payments. What is it? CPAC, pap smear. What is it? Meep. No. Do snakes fart?

No. I mean, yes. No. Pizza. No, I can't. Look. I'm over 72. I don't want to accidentally touch prep boy penis.

Accidental penis is the worst. Nobody wants accidental penis. Choose your job. Choose your living. Choose your underwear. Choose your taco belt. Choose your coffee. Choose life.

Oh my gosh. You make me want to stand tall and walk high. Deluxe extreme. Mega double-decker. Chalupa sandwich. Yeah. Right. It's always got a wrap.

You've got to get in there and see what the stink is all about. Oh, no. I'm getting a little cheese on the back end. There's no way we'll ever hear that in a mashup. No, that'll never come up again. You get phone, worn panties, and a chaco pie. I'm going to be on his thing when I get home sometime. We've talked about that.

Hello. No way we'll ever hear that in the mashup in here. I can't say anything today, can I? Honestly, it's all busted in my head today. I got this by Diabolical weiner. There you go. One soil swims right next to us. Even an octopus in his mouth.

Pops right up off the surface next to us and then tries to chew up the league, but ended up sleeping our face. I love that he's whew-e-d-do-wh-wh-d-d-d-I-d-d-I-d-d-d-l. I know, I can't even then veered off into some weird Irish pirate. Yeah.

Weird Irish pirate. It's a great, great band name. Find all our shows at frogpants. com. Oh, how do you do? Oh.