The Morning Stream - TMS 3056: Freddy the 13th

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

Kick a Pack of Poo. Brian's Intolerant Box. Mel A, B, or C? Big old Mormon kid teeth. That made me tingle. Stiff, Thick, and Absorbent. Dunaway's monstrous head. A Gentile Throttling. My dinner with Weekend at Bernie's. I can bike 16 donuts per hour. Caution plate may be hot. Six Holes and One Peg, I'm In Danger. There's a hole in da roof! I would nuke that for a dollar. Slowpamine with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. VIDEO: https://youtu.be/lyDLGeIuNa8 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hall of Notes may not like each other right now, but in 1967, their two bands were both playing at the same Philadelphia concert. But it wasn't until a fight broke out and gunshots were fired that the two found themselves in a freight elevator, nose to nose, and found out they both liked the same kind of music. And Man Eater was born. Anyway, support TMS today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, kick a pack of poo. Brian's intolerant box. Mel A, B, or C. Big old Mormon kid teeth.

That made me tingle. Stiff, thick, and absorbent. Dunaway's monstrous head. A gentle throttling. My dinner with weekend at Bernies. I can bike 16 donuts per hour. Caution. Plate may be hot.

Six holes in one peg. I'm in danger. There's a hole into roof. I'd nuke that for a dollar. Slopamine with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. And here's Brock. And Brock is by far the most hormonal. Oh, what kind of role model would that be?

And then there are two kids. characters and one's called Jesse and the other one's called James. They're also prone to cross-dressing. There would be no victor. There'd be an awful lot of losers. Hello, everyone, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for August the 20th, 2006. I got a lot of 20s today. I'm Scott and that's Brian. Hi, Brian. Good day to you. Hello.

I am very, I know we say this a lot, but I'm very uncomfortable with how fast August has gone so far. Yeah. Tell me about it. Don't like it. No, I know. I'm with you. There's, I had a lot of big plans for August, a lot of things I was doing. And, um, uh, and I've not been able to get all those things done the way I wanted to. I finally, like, one of the most intricate puzzles I've ever done for Rock Puzzles Monthly required me and I can show the middle part of this without giving anything away but it required me to do a

like a top down map influenced by the game Clue Oh nice, that's cool. Yep. Excellent. exciting. But it involved me like creating this layout for these rooms and a whole bunch

of items in the rooms that But I'm excited for people to get this puzzle in their hands, but this is, this puzzle has taken me the longest out of any of the other puzzles that I've done. It looks like a lot of work just by looking at that image. Just the artwork itself, yeah. Would you use to make the layout, just some kind of housebuilder thing here? Oh, Illustrator. Oh, Illustrator, yeah. And I was going to do, I started off.

So I did the, just the empty rooms. And then I popped up the Apple Pencil and my iPad and the illustrator. app and said, I'm just going to draw them in here. And then it's like, you know what? These are all just rectangles and squares and basic shapes. I'm going to do it by hand using just the tools. And I did it so much faster that way that I think I would have doing it by free hand and then cleaning up all those shapes and stuff. Yeah, that's the way to do it. Yeah. That's great. Well, it looks really good. People are in for a treat. But yeah, August, this is a similar thing for August for me.

Actually, here's the funny thing. If I'm really honest about my August, I got a lot done that I wanted to do and I did it. And I'm not, it's funny how we do this to ourselves because I got a ton done. You launched a new daily. Yeah, I launched a new comic strip. It's been going up every day. It's up at Newduck.com. Did I tell everybody yesterday?

I put a random feature in there so you can just get a random thing. I saw it on threads or something. place you posted maybe Instagram or something where you said that you did that and it's like oh that's cool and then you can just like oh I missed a few days let's just see see what's going on yep I put a little JavaScript in it makes it so it doesn't randomly because sometimes the problem with random is you get the same thing twice or you see stuff over the same right whatever the seed yeah the same seed for the randomness so in this so the way I have it set up is for your session that time you're sitting there you'll never see the same one twice unless you go through them all which you know at some

point you're not going to do that because there's like 60 of them so far but anyway uh so i accomplished shit but i still don't nobody looks nobody looks at their own accomplishments and goes i did what i meant to do instead we go i didn't do the other three things that i haven't done yet and i've only got 10 days to do it or whatever and i don't know why we do that to ourselves we're hard on either i don't either and yeah exactly well it's annoying that's that's that's the way it is yeah oh gosh yeah 11 days left in the month Terrific. Okay. Jeez. All right folks.

September, like right around the effing corner, man. Yeah. I've got a second audio book to get started here to have it done by the end of December, too. So lots of stuff. Geez. You better get talking into that microphone. That's right. I got a trip to Arizona planned to a baby shower.

Oh, fun. For one of my nieces. You're going to get to see anybody, Tanner or anybody out there? I hope so. it's not in Phoenix, it's out in, it's in Prescott. Oh, okay. Not terribly far, but kind of far. I really, okay. I've never, I remember going to, you know, the Phoenix Sun, the, the Mesa time, what was the Pesa paper?

And those two are cities that are just basically connected. One's a suburb of the other, basically. Yeah. I don't know where Scottsdale or Prescott or any of these other, like I've never really studied a map of Arizona to figure out where all these other places are. A little bit of a spread. If I remember right, Prescott's more northern? It is, yeah, because it's apparently northern and also elevation-wise, similar to Colorado.

Yeah, right. Closer to the mile high, which means you don't get as hot temperatures as you do. it's like us. We just kind of get the hundreds when it's hot and, I don't know, 60s when it's not. Right. Exactly. It's 100 again today. Freaking F this noise.

You know what? Let's go, fall. I'm ready for you. Let's go. Let's get in here. Let's make this happen because I'm tired of this heat. I've had it. Speaking of Tanner, quick shout out to Tanner.

He had the worst monsoon-style storm come through Phoenix. People living there did, not just Tanner, obviously. but it ripped a it ripped a hole in his roof man really yeah I felt so bad for him and I he doesn't know I'm talking about it but I just want good vibes good tad vibes for Tanner

I'm gonna show you one of these videos he sent me it's kind of shocking yeah he posted some in the D&D chat and um but you know that he posted uh whoops sorry that was loud August 9th he posted some stuff so 12 days ago

yeah this might be the same video oh okay all right and he didn't say anything or if he mentioned that it put a hole in his roof i didn't see it but yeah so this thing this was just one shot but look at that just like lightning lightning bam bam bam wind's got up to like 90 miles an hour yeah yeah got really bad and of course you know in the desert like that you're going to get flash floods and all kinds of other shit yeah and um ended up just ripping a ripping something apart with the roof so you had to have a whole bunch of sheet rock pulled down they got guys working on. He's fighting the insurance company. Like all that shit.

I just feel bad for him. Anyway, good luck, Tanner. And I hope that, I hope the nuke plant you work at wasn't affected by this. The nuke plant. Yeah. Because that place.

I buy that for a dollar. I don't want that place to, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Tom Noonan selling nuke. Right, exactly. From the nuke plant. Yeah.

That's right. All right. Also, someone in my neighborhood has a rooster. and I'm not going to tell on them. You're not supposed to have them here because... So you know who it is? I don't know for sure. It seems about...

It seems southwest of me. And it seems... It seems like it's... I think I know the house it is, but it's like two houses... One house back and then two over. Okay. And I'm pretty sure it's that house

and I'm pretty sure I know the guy who's got it. But in the mornings, when roosters do their thing, you hear it over there going, Kikapakaku, whatever the hell it does. Yeah, that's exactly what they say. Kikapakaku.

Kikapakaku. And every time it happens, I just kind of grin. It doesn't bother me at all. I have no problem with it. In fact, I kind of kind of sort of like it. Yeah, it's a little bit, right. It's like it fits in with that, like, wouldn't mind living on a farm kind of vibe.

Yeah, there's something about that sometimes. Yeah. Like, I know you recently had a petting zoo or something. I say sheep or whatever. Petting Zoo is a museum that's on a working farm. I mean, technically, you can pet the animals that come close to the thing, but you're not put in a pen with them. Oh. You get to walk around and you just go to their fences and stuff like that.

Gotcha. So no goats are like buttoning you in the leg or anything like that. No, no. You're separated from all the animals by walls and fences and stuff. There's just something about it that I vibe with and it doesn't bother me, but I know that they're going to be neighbors. I haven't checked next door. That's what I really should do. Yeah.

To see if people are complaining yet. Because I'm not going to, I'm not narcan on this guy. He can have his rooster. I think it's fine. It's funny. So you're not allowed to have any, is it just no poultry, no live poultry? No, you can have chickens. Okay.

And there's some rules about pen size. But because of the noise that a rooster, just because of that, the kickapakaku. It's, kickapoooo. Yeah, just no rooster crowing over there, whatever they, what do they call that? When a rooster does its thing? rooster crowing. It's crowing. Is it a crowing? Rooster rooster. Rooster cogburn. Roostering is what it's called when they rooster. I don't know what that's called, but whatever it is, they, that's the reason. It's a noise ordinance thing. But the way I look at it, there's some really loud dogs around here, and that's not against the rules. And louder, probably louder than the roosters, and those dogs probably bark all night. And the rooster is like, yeah, one and done. Saw the sun. Everybody let you know. Sun's up, buns out. Time to.

That's right. Time to go milk. The time for milking. And the rooster, some call it a cock. Uh-huh. It gets up in the morning and just does its alarm thing. I don't know why they do it, but they do it. Right.

They just do it. They're just, it's ingrained. It's, it's, uh. One of my favorite videos is this guy with a rooster who he throttles it, not violently. It doesn't hurt it. Okay. But he throttled a gentle, a gentle throttling on the neck when it, when it does its rooster call. Yeah.

And so it'll start going, it'll grab the neck and then just shake it a little bit. And it just goes, ah, it's an amazing short video, but I don't know how to find it quick. Oh, my gosh. That's great.

Seek it out, everybody. Yeah, look for it. Just do it. Just pull up Google and search for throttling your cock. Yeah. And let's see what you find, Scott.

Let's, uh, yeah. I'm sure that'll not get me on any kind of list. No, certainly won't. It won't. You won't get some really strange results going forward.

You know, I swear now, like we say this all the time. Like, oh, but that'll get you on a list or whatever. The truth is, more often I'll say to Kim, I'll say, to Kim, I says, Hey, boy, you know, it would be good today. Some beef and broccoli. And she goes, sure, that sounds good. And then I'll say, well, anyway, me open my phone and check my messages. And the first ad I get on Instagram is for some kind of beef and broccoli.

And it's like, it's all listening to us anyway. It is exactly. It's so weird. I sent a video to you guys in FilmSack. It kind of got buried because we started talking about Hayden Pentier, but there's this movie called, oh, what is it? Terry and the T-Rex, T-Rex, T-Rex, Tammy and the T-Rex. Oh, okay.

I don't know what this is. Tammy and the T-Rex? Tammy and the T-Rex. And it was one of the movies they showed before the end of Oak Street at Al-Lex. no draft house one of those like little funny trailers they show in the 30 minutes beforehand and um uh and i said this thing looks so freaking stupid uh it's paul walker it's denise richards no paul walker paul walker yeah paul walker yeah 94 so this would have been before things hit for him and uh with the fast and the furious yeah exactly and she was probably with uh was this before she was 94 oh well before

she was with Charlie Sheen. When was Starship Troopers? Was that like... 96? 987? Okay.

So this was even before that. Yeah. So I think, yeah, I think this was before her life would change forever. Yeah. In so many ways.

Yeah. This thing looks so hilariously bad that I feel like we need to watch it for film sec. So I send it over to you guys. No big deal. Put it away,

done with it. Yeah. And then I get a thing in, like a recommendation, oh, you should watch, like in an email, like in an ad in an email, you should watch Tammy and the T-Rex.

It's like, they're totally listening to us. They're totally here. They have to be, right? Yeah, they have to be. Someone have to ask I just showed a boob. No, IMDB has this shot and her hair is there. It looks like it's

maybe a boob, but it does look like it is, yeah. Is that in the film? All right, we definitely need to watch this. Yeah, this is a scene. In fact, all of the photos they put in here all seem like their versions of this. Really? Yeah. But there's no, there's no need. It is funny, though.

The hair does make it look like you're showing something on screen you shouldn't be shown. Yeah. And maybe the robots will still ban me. I don't know. Sorry, Twitch. I don't know how this works, but yeah, I'd watch that. It looks like shit. Let's do it. Yeah, looks like absolute garbage. I mean, I like

who's this, who's this director? Let's see. Has he done anything I care about? Oh, the guy made Mac and Me, Ice Pirates, Passenger 57? Dude, oh, really? This guy is already in our wheelhouse. We just didn't know it. Yeah.

All right, sign me up. Well, get it on the list. Still making... Terry Kaiser is in this. As the mad scientist, Terry Kaiser best known as playing a dead person for three-fourths of weekend. What's called weekend? Oh, my weekend at Bernies or what is it?

Weekend of Bernie's. My weekend at Bernie's. My dinner was weekend at Bernies. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Where is he? What's his name? Terry Kaiser. Terry Kaiser.

Oh, there he is. Of course, this number one weekend at Bernice has to be. Of course, yeah. Oh, I didn't know. That's interesting. I've never seen him in anything else. Or at least I didn't think I had. Maybe I have.

just haven't well you could have maybe seen him on mannequin two on the move wow yeah no thank you nope um he's still alive that guy and he's got upcoming projects so let's just see if there's good for him anything that says he's 87 years old yeah still working he played his latest thing and uh coming out called the the malachi he plays the lone man okay the lone bearer alive man. Monica says, or should I say, Monica yells Friday the 13th, 7. Oh, he's in that? Yeah, Friday the 13th, seven, says Monica.

Hold on. That would have been, was that, the, takes Manhattan. Is that the one? No idea. Seven, yes, I don't know what seven is. It's just bad. I know what's bad. Is it called something? Oh, the new blood is what that one is. Oh, all right.

I'd think that one is bad if I remember right. sure most of them are kind of bad i was going to say let's list me off the good ones i think one is interesting two is actually pretty good three three it starts to fall apart four like three with the stupid dream warriors i won't oh no i'm sorry that's that's uh that's freddie that's freddie never mind freddie the thirteenth and that was yeah oh they missed an opportunity they really did why didn't they do freddie the thirteenth instead of jason v freddie yeah that's a shame Monica brings up it's with the telekinetic

chicken I was thinking oh like the Dream Warriors and then it totally got me on the the Freddie so wait a minute this one had a telekinetic lady

apparently did yeah well let's just not why do that to your that's a slasher movie about a thing that it's already

a little supernatural you don't need to add extra shit put X men in there come on I'm not going to say who it is it's a spoiler

but it might be somebody in a larger universe. I know who it might be. It's cat woman. It's cat woman. We've moved her. We've moved her into Friday in the 13th part seven.

With full Randy approval. Yeah. All right. What kind of American are you? That's the wrong one. I've moved that woman. There it is. That's what I meant to play.

Okay. I was going to say, you can't imagine those things are labeled anything close to each other. No, but they are right next to each other physically, and I screwed up and click the wrong one. Hey, guys, look, it's time for us to do our, the fourth, what do we call it the fourth estate? The, the press. Yeah, the press, the freedom of the press. Yeah, we got to get that out there.

So here it comes right here. Well, well, well, it's time for the news and it's brought to you by. Brought to you by Coverville taking place right after TMS today where thanks to the birthday of co-founder Tanya Donnelly, who formed a band called The Throwing Muses with her step-sister, Kristen Hirsch, back in the 80s, and then went on to be in Belly and the breeders, all three excellent bands, and

then some amazing solo stuff. So it is the Tanya Donnelly cover story. She just turned 60. It's amazing. And so covers of this post-punk rocker, she's awesome. She, you know, she's just one of those that

like Debbie Harry and Joan Jet needs to be in the the badass rocker woman Hall of Fame kind of thing. I agree. She's so much, well,

she's not the name. She's not the household name. The other names are that you mentioned. And that's unfortunate. Yeah. I mean, Kim Deal and Kelly deal, but only because of,

you know, the pixies and stuff. You get those names, but, something I've noticed lately. I was listening to the Mel C interview. Yeah. Oh, with Threw?

Threw. Justin Threw. Yep. Yep. And she's, older than me or no same age as us something like that she's got to be younger than us isn't she considerably younger than us i don't think so she's 73 or two or something like that's a little younger a couple years uh wait mel i'm sorry you're saying melny c is sorry wait is it mel b or melc well melc is

sporty spice okay then it's mel b it's the it's the one that's buff as hell right now That's Mel C. That's, well, I mean, Mel C was always the sporty one. She was always the one who was the more athletic of all of them. She's 52. There we go. That's her. That's one that got interviewed. I get the males mixed up. Okay.

Did you say she was, oh, you probably meant she was born in like 74? I thought she was 70. No, no, no, no, no. Born in the 70s. Sorry. Sorry, I thought I was going to hear. She's 78 years old. Yeah, that's what it sounded like you said.

I'm like, um, no, no, they're all younger than us. No, definitely, definitely more closer to our age. But anyway, she's on this interview. She's, it was a really interesting interview. Turns out she's kind of the peacemaker of the group. Anytime there were like fights or falling outs or whatever, she was like the one that had to swoop in and like solve everybody's issues. But she and she easily had the best voice of all five of them.

Oh, yeah. And they talked about that. She didn't, she was super humble about it. She's like, I don't know about that. Of course, she would. Yeah, I mean, as the diplomat, of course you would say that. Yeah. You know what?

they all have their most four of the five of them have their musical strengths yeah and uh yeah and they all can dance like a bunch of freaks and she's just freaking ripped anyway yeah yeah what i what i what i what i what i what i the reason i'm bringing this up is she reminded me and this is true of a lot of folks right now including the person you just mentioned for your coverville today we as a society i think are getting better and not saying up you're over 30 you're washed up see you right we're getting better at late at like that's saying right we're getting better at like that's saying, oh, Tears for Fears has a new single. Let's go listen to it.

Or, you know, we're letting these artists be artists, even though we used to have such ageism about them. We would just, like, you're out of here with few exceptions. Like Rolling Stones got away with it for some reason, things like that. But women in particular, like women performers, I feel like just get discounted because they're older. And you're starting to see less of that now. And I think that's a good thing, you know?

I want to think that it's because. their activity isn't at the whim of their labels anymore. People can now self-release and create their own label and put out their own stuff and, you know, self-published and not be restricted by a label that says, all right, we only want to have new performers and young artists. And that's where the money is. So, sorry, your contract only lasts until you're 29 and 11 months and 30 days. And then we're done with you.

But now that people can say, you know what, there's so many platforms I can release my stuff and stay relevant and continue to make the music I want to make and do it well into my 60s and 70s. Yeah, why not? As long as you want to do it. I think it's awesome. And she still works with the producer that helped them make wannabe. Really? She went all into this whole thing about how she'll work with that guy until she dies. It's not Max Martin, is it?

No, Max Martin was more the Britney Spears and Sink and stuff like that. said the name and I cannot remember it. Simon, not Cowell, Simon, not Fuller. No. I don't think it was Simon. I could be wrong, though. It might have been. It might have been. Yeah. Here she is, by the way, recently on a thing. It just could kick my ass.

She could totally kick our asses. And she, you know. Bad ass. Yeah. She's awesome. She's a powerhouse and such a great vocalist. The new album is fun. If I worked out more, I'd enjoy it even more. It's a great gym album.

Yeah, it is. I haven't heard it yet, so I'm going to check it out later today. Because I do like that kind of stuff. I went to the gym today. I should have listened to that. Why didn't I? There you go. Listen to that.

Listen to a MLC's new album, sweat. Yeah. Just a little gross. That's fine, though. We all sweat. We all sweat. I mean, I'll raise my hand. I sweat today.

Today I sweat. Yeah. And I wiped it off when I got up from my thing like you're supposed to. I sweat. I sweat. I sweat. I sweated. What is the past?

sense of sweat. I sweated. I swat. I swat. I will sweat again. I don't know. What is it, you guys? I I sweated. I perspired. I know you can say I perspired. It says both sweated and sweat. So I I sweat through my shirt yesterday. It just didn't seem right. I sweat through my shirt. Yesterday. You know what? That sounds right. It doesn't sound right to me. I sweat through that Sure. Yeah, it sounds right to me now that I hear it, but when I was picturing it, it didn't sound right. Or if I said, what did you do at the gym? I sweated really hard. It's common and informal switch in idioms, but sweated is the for formal writing, literal perspiration. So sweated is the preferred.

The Oxford English dictionary preference is sweated. Oh, good. The wraith says moisted. I like that. Sure. Glistening, says Cappy G-Mack. Just say perspired. Yeah, say perspired. Gentlemen. We have perspired.

I don't sweat. I perspire. Second of all, I don't perspire. Jay says sweat, sweat, swat, swat. Sweat, sweat. It's pretty good. All right. Story number one.

Yes. High school football player in Arkansas. Some would say Arkansas, but they'd be wrong. Practices with a venomous snake in his helmet. This is his motivation. That's how we get to done. I'm going to say it sounds like he does this on purpose, but I don't know if he does, does he?

Well, let's find out. High school player in Arkansas had every right to be rattled after finding a venomous snake inside his helmet during practice. The mal... Sorry, the Ma-M-M-M-M-L. Ma-M-L.

High school student. Mal-Mell. That's a weird name for high school. It is. Must be a dude's name. Or, yeah, or town or something. Mile-Mail. I don't like it. I've been to town, no. where have I been in Arkansas?

You've probably been to Little Rock. I've never been to Little Rock. I've been to Texarkana, a little tiny corner up there where Ross Perot was famously from. Okay. Weirdest town because it's Arkansas and Texas, the border is down the main street. Oh, it's really so it's like that movie I haven't seen yet where there's the two sides are split and isn't it isn't a state border or no, it's just a city border where they're split. Yeah. in this case it's a it's state and city yeah and one side the texas side or was it the other way

one of the side i think the texas side like really shitty roads like like lots of pockholes or pockholes pot holes pot holes pot holes pot holes so they potholes all over the place kind of less kept looked kind of poopy over on the texas side and the arkansas side was beautiful like really well-kept street and the locals told me that it was, that's literally the deal. Like, state funding would go to pay for road repair and beautification or whatever in one state. But the other state on the other side of the road and that direction didn't get the same funding. So it literally, like they physically, legally had to stop in the center.

You can't just like you drive north, like driving northbound. Oh, it's the smoothest right ever. Drive in southbound. It sucks. It was really weird. I don't know if it's still the same, but it was like. like that in the 90s. Let's see.

Been to Little Rock, been to Fayetteville. Both of them were newspaper, Fort Smith. So those three, I'm just looking at a list of of Arkansas cities. And like, I couldn't tell you, the Fort Smith, everything feels like the Times Journal. The Fort Smith Times Journal. The Fayetteville Times Journal.

They all could be the Times Journal. Oh, one of them was called the Arkansas Democrat. That I remember. I think that was in Little Rock. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. I did go to Bentonville once. I don't remember what for

I don't remember what I go to Bentonville for Visit somebody or something I don't remember The worst The worst town I ever drove through to get there Was Louisiana

What's the name of the town Shreveport is a Oh it's a shit stick Yeah we had the Shreveport Times I drove So I did this Shreveport install But then also did the Tyler, Texas

install the same time. And if you're in Tyler, Texas, you can drive really quickly to Shreveport. There happened to be a riverboat casino. And I'm like, you know what? I've got an extra night here. Let's go out to the, let's drive from Tyler,

the Rose Capital of the United States, by the way. Oh, really? That's where I made a sign for my trainer that said, welcome K-Y-B-U radio. Tyler, Texas, welcomes Keanu Reeves and stood the airport and waited for. Oh, that's right. But it was Tyler, Texas.

We drove out to Shreveport to the Riverboat Casino, and they basically, every 59 minutes, have to close the doors and raise the gangplank to prove that it's a boat, and then lower the gangplank and, yeah, and then open the doors again, so that it just goes back to just being rooted there. But because it can't be a permanent structure,

so it has to, like, all right, Every, maybe it was in 50, maybe it was every two hours. They have to do that, but it's really good. It's so silly, though. Yeah. Right. It really is silly. Yeah.

And Shreveport was horrendous. Yeah. It's just a terrible town. And no offense. There's plenty. There are places in Louisiana that blew my mind. Beautiful, wonderful people. Just amazing southern class.

Like, real great. Absolutely. Yes. New Orleans is fun. Although there's places there, I wouldn't ever go. But like, Shreeport, are you okay? Are you okay? Like, it's been a while.

maybe they've maybe it's all gentrified and fixed it i have no idea now but back in the day shreveport was a brian said it it was a pit it's a pit yeah it's no other way of saying it and not the good no wiley kind no tree pit not the good uh superhero uh image comrade known image comics a good bulky buff superhero kind the pit but uh no whole different one was that that image was it image the pit think so the pit yeah wait one of my thinking of the max? Yeah, there's the max too. Both of them were like M-A-X-X and P-I-T-T.

Let's see. Yeah, the Pitta's image. Oh, that comic. He's basically Lobo, but off-brand. I guess so, yeah. He's like Hulk, he's like Hulk Lobo. Timu Lobo. Yeah, he's Hulk Lobo because it was the

cult that was the Hulk creator that made it. Yes, super buff. Oh, was it really? Not creator, sorry. The guy that was famous at Marvel for I can't remember his name Puchula. Dave Cohn, Dave Cune. That's it. Yeah. I mean, his art is, you know, I'm unmistakable.

Yeah. Yeah, I like to pit. Never bought any. The show and the Yeah, I love the show. Comics is great. I bought a bunch of image comics back in the day. Still have like the full, well, not full,

but at least the first year or two of Gen 13 and Youngblood and all that Jim Lee stuff. Wildcats. Yeah, Wildcats was great. It was great. Really cool superhero team.

I like the Sylvestery stuff too. That was really good. Yeah. All right. There's your news. Kid found a snake in his helmet. He didn't like it. He pulled it out, freaked everybody out of the game.

That's your news story for today. Wow. That's how it went. Very good. Now this. Something wrong, Batman. Has anybody seen Wendy? Oh, why'd that fade out?

Something wrong, Batman? Has anybody seen Wendy? Wendy, I don't know why you faded out, but it did. No fades. No fades on Wendy. Not today. Not ever. My sister Wendy, she is a therapist and a mental health expert.

Comes on the show on Thursdays and helps you guys with your problems at home. And we don't know why she does that, but she does. And we like it. We're happy about it. We don't know why you do this, but we're glad you. Yeah, you've been doing it for a long time. And, you know, it's a little bit of a, it's a little slummy, you know, for you. You've got a lot of highfalutin stuff to do right now.

I know, I know. We consider ourselves lucky to get you, but we know. Do you know what I would like, you guys? Every time you guys turn on the clean feet or whatever, right? So I suddenly pop in. You're speaking the final, I don't know, 30 words of whatever you were saying. Yeah. I should write them all down and put them in one sentence.

It's wild. Because contextually what we just said about a snake in a helmet made no sense to you. Yeah, plus all the, like you just were listing things. And sometimes it'll be like about a rash. And sometimes, I mean, it's. And I did this in calls. for a minute, I just found this super funny as I would just eavesdrop. I'd walk around campus and I would eavesdrop just a sentence or two from someone walking by or someone near me. And then I would put it into one run on sentence. I guess I had some free time. I don't know. But it was so funny to me. And so it's, I feel like I live that a little bit with the show. Nice. Every Thursday. Okay. Well, see. You do get something fun out of this. See? It's great. Sometimes it's disgusting. And I'll tell you, those ones.

Yeah. You're not going to write those down. No. Well, good. Well, it's good to have you here. We actually have a couple of things today. One, a question from a listener, but also a good one, too. I mean, they're always good, but this one in particular, I think is pretty strong. And then we're going to talk about a thing you can all help with if you're feeling frosty. Okay? We'll get to that in a minute. We'll start with this, though. Do you feel like Wendy, do you feel like sometimes we are raised on Frosties, the Wendy's Frosty? Oh, that's like 90% of my DNA. Yeah. Frosty. That if you let melt, you wouldn't be able to pay me one billion dollars to eat. No, they're horrible. Because they're still as thick. They're just plastic or something. Yeah. There's still as thick when they're melted as they are when they're cold, which is not the way physics work with ice cream. No. And the McDonald's ones are worse. They're just like a fluff ball when you're done if it's warm. But when we were kids, that was like how you'd celebrate for your birthday. You'd go to Wendy's and get a burger and a frosty. I just remember being freezing every time.

Did you, when you went there, would you go, man, I wish my name was spelled like that? I shot a normal name. I think I consistently thought, what if Dave Thomas was my dad? My restaurant. Well, you'd inherit a lot of money is what you'd get. You would have had a huge inheritance. Yeah, forget about Dunford donuts. It would have Wendy's money.

Perfect. the yeah I just felt like we always did that and my dad would always call them he didn't call them normal names he called it a windy burger that's how we would order it so yeah he said we're gonna go get a windy burger and a and a um in a shake I'm like dad they're called frosties and it's a number one combo or whatever he just couldn't get it or he'd say your deluxe burger is what he would order oh yeah always I loved it um all right let's get to today's question this is from someone named cherry tea they said it was okay to use their name in the subject I include it here but anyway, hi Wendy and the boys Hey Brian, that's us Sure, that's us, we're the boys You guys talk about focus And lack of focus quite a bit

But I have a question that never seems to come up Why can I hyper focus on hobbies or random topics for hours But I can't focus on some basic daily task for 10 minutes I added some inflection there Here here Yeah, you know what? I don't know why we haven't asked this during these other discussions about focus and, you know, learning how to train your brain to,

like, block noise and all that. But we never do. So why is it that, you know, that, why is that? We all do it to some degree, but why do we do that? And some very much more. So, first of all, Cherry, I appreciate. I think, I mean, this happens every single time we do one of these shows. I'm like, what did I even say?

Like, I can't remember as soon as we think of it. And so I'm hoping it's not. garbage and wrong or something, right? But, you know, I swear, when I saw this message, I was like, oh, there's no way I haven't. This is so important. Why? And realizing like, okay, you think you have self-awareness a little bit. This should have been in every discussion.

So I love that they're pointing this out because it is probably the most common argument you'll hear or criticisms you'll hear of parents towards their children, actually, that he can play video games for seven straight hours, but he can't do his homework. You know, like, this is so, so, so common as a, as an element of just like human brains and then in, in a lot of at one, almost every case of ADHD. So let's just take it from the full clinical perspective first, and then we'll, we'll come back to like regular humans who don't have neural superpower. But this hyperfocus at times and then literally cannot do a thing that is just so easy to do or you know basic right okay and the number one problem is labeling so when we as humans i mean maybe we could come up with a bunch of these

but we will mislabel something and ADHD is probably the most mislabeled diagnosis we have really and yeah and that's because it is not a deficit and attention and that's what they those are the words yeah i was going to say that's literally the name of this. That's exactly. Yeah. Hyperactivity, I think fits a little better, right? You are, there is a version of, not everyone has that subtype, but there is a version

that is hyperactive and then there's a version that's inattentive, okay? That's how you distinguish the two. You'll have an ADHD diagnosis, inattentive subtype or hyperactive subtype, okay? And the inattentive or the attention deficit part is frustrating as we've learned. more how it works and that's because it isn't that you can't attend to something or have attention. It's that it's actually a dopamine problem and it's a motivation issue and it is a bunch of other things happening and it's not that you don't can't pay attention. I think honestly it's sort of origins and I didn't look up this specifically but it's just school rooms,

It's a classroom where the kid is not paying attention, right? So it makes sense why it was formulated and named sort of the way it is, but the more we learn about it, we realize it's not that thing. And how we know is that part of the diagnosis is hyper focus. Right? And so everyone probably can relate to this, but then folks with ADHD will find that it is, the hyperfocus is so intense. Like they'll stop eating. They'll stop functioning because that is. attention is drawn so, you know, strongly towards something. And where maybe someone else can be like,

oh, I wasted a couple hours focusing on a thing and now I'm going to go get a snack. Like, it's not ruining their life, right? Whereas diagnostically, we always look at how does this impact your life? If your hyper-focused tendencies mean you miss appointments, you're in trouble at work, you know, your relationships are suffering. Well, then we're in pathological territory, right? So hopefully that makes makes sense. So really what's going on is and let's pick, we'll give each of you your chance to tell us what is the most recent thing you hyper-focused on. And then let's just talk about what happened in your brain. Okay. Interesting. Mine, want me to go for you? Go ahead. Yeah. About two weeks ago, Nintendo dropped their new Pocopia DLC and I found myself having

say, okay, just one hour of this because I've got other things to do. And of course, like two hours goes by and I'm completely. And for whatever reason, I can have 18 to-do items in freaking Pokemon Pocopia building this stupid environment. Oh, I got to make this this habitat and this habitat so I can get these Pokemon. But give me another to-do list that actually has work on it. And it's like, oh, what else can I do? What can distract me from doing any of this? because I don't want to do it. Is that a dopamine thing or he's the, the reward? Oh, yeah, the video game, huge dopamine, I would assume. Huge dopamine. It hits all the right buttons. And there's a couple other things here. There's novelty, right?

Novelty is incredibly rewarding to an ADHD brain. And it is the, it is. So what's happening is someone, we'll just say someone who gets a lot of paperwork done. When they look at their to do list, they are actually getting. dopamine to go to then do the sort of mundane task, right? Right. The person with the dopamine deficiency is not going to get any dopamine to help them. They're going to have to trick themselves.

They're going to have to come up with bribes. They're going to game a fight. You have to find a million different motivators outside of dopamine naturally being released to do the thing. But put a novel thing in front of both of them. Both are going to be like, cool, let's do that. But one is going to go, finally, it's sort of like having vitamin D after a dark winter or something where you're like, and I feel human.

Like, I don't have to try so hard. I can, and that will always come with novelty. And then right size challenge is kind of the terms that we'll use. Like, we'll use my burgeoning knowledge of video games. And, you know, the big boss. Like, you have to have a sense that you are. are eventually going to get there, right? If it was just impossible over and over and never,

and you heard that no one has ever passed it. And it just, it would, it would, you would lose the motivation, right? Because it's just too much. Like they made it unwinnable. Eventually people would stop playing that. It's a, it's actually a really,

it's funny, you know, you, you, you sort of talking about video games like you're not really super knowledgeable about it, but that is, that's actually a really fine line that a lot of games have to. that's like part of the design language of it of being like seemingly challenging but but surmountable

and knowing like playing a game and knowing that you can do this is a huge get if your if your game is meant to be really hard it's actually a really important part of the designs hard to explain but you're basically a game designer is what I'm saying that's what's going yeah I am and that's my second career yeah and it's why it's so effective because you do think of the joy you get after the right-sized challenge, you've worked really hard at it. This is why people actually will find less pleasure in games when they find the cheat code, right? A cheat code will give you what you swear you want. And then you get it and you're like, oh, I just passed that whole level. Okay, cool. Like, we'll eventually lose.

Exactly. So there is these sort of kind of magical numbers that really help people feel productive and, you know, and some folks, that's checking off a to-do list. They will feel as good as if they beat the big boss on a level just like getting their dishes done and checking some things off. So all of us have that maybe a little bit. And then we're all over the map on different brains, right? But it is just our brain how it works and everyone has different maybe levels of dopamine being released. Where we feel the pleasure, it's called the nucleus. the succumbens, that is maybe a little different for different people.

We're going to be rewarded by different things. You might find one thing pleasurable. Someone else might think it's like ASMR. I want to murder anyone making that sound near me. I really disagree. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We know that.

We know about your feelings about that. Someone else would be like, absolutely their nervous system is calm and they find pleasure in that. Right. Could we have more different brains going on there? No kidding. Yeah. The other thing that all of us run.

to though is how all of that, you know, the affects our prefrontal cortex, right? And that is where we handle our planning, our focus, our decision making. That's our adult part. And that's where when you have novelty and you have a challenge and you have interest and you have all of that natural dopamine-producing stuff, you're going to give that thing while it holds your attention, your full attention. So that's where we get that hyper-focus, right? And we have, we, are a limited system. We can't do this for four days straight. We have to sleep and have our brain recover and reset. That's why we sleep. And we sleep a third of our lives, right? It's because this system is very expensive to run and has to reboot overnight and clean up and you have to

have the whole, you know, reboot sort of happen. And that, so when you notice, when you're hyper-focusing and you guys can share your thoughts on this, you could stay up really late doing something, right? Oh, yeah. He used to be able to do it more than I do, I can now. Now I'm old and tired, but there used to be a time where time meant not. Like we go to Misha and Ken's, our sister Misha and her husband's. When they were first married, we had like one baby and we'd go over to his house and we'd say, all right, we're going to play street fighter until dinner.

And we'd do that. Then we'd eat dinner. And then we'd play street fighter until like four o'clock in the morning. while our wives try to sleep on couches and stuff. Like that that is a thing that came out of us without even thinking. It's like just play, play. Yeah. You can recover because your mitochondria was still working, right?

And now it's not the same. But what I'm getting at is the prefrontal cortex absolutely is it's a very expensive. Our brain is very expensive. It needs a lot of calories. It needs a lot of carbs. It needs a lot of rest because it is doing a lot. And so that decision-making adult part of the brain, when we are using dopamine for everything else, pleasure is coming in spades through our phone and through a video game or whatever, then this part is tired and it does not give you rewards the same way. It cannot compete.

It can't compete. Just like if I was like, I'm the fun aunt. And then you have like a crotchety aunt, right? No, they're going to pick me. It's going to be so much more fun over here because I have popsicles. and the other ants trying to teach them how to like, you know, make it, make a meatloaf. Like, it's just, there's no comparison. It's such a weird, it's a weird poll, make a meatloaf.

I love it. And since I don't visualize things very well, I can say really weird things and it really grosses of people around about, around me. Anyway, okay, but point is this. That part is worn out. So this is why, in Time Mastery, Brian, if you remember this, we talk a lot about how to front load the unsexy stuff because we get a fresh batch in the morning. So if you had a decent night's sleep, fresh batch in the morning. And this is why when people get on a really bad loop of staying up really

late or falling asleep to their phones always, like they're already depleting some of that rejuvenation that they would then have in the morning. But let's say you had a great night's sleep. You went to bed on time. You wake up. You're refreshed. You have, it's like a restart almost with that prefrontal cortex. And then what we all do is, you know, office working kind of folks is we wasted on email. I'd love to know. I'd love to know what this good night sleep thing is that you keep talking. I keep hearing about this.

I'd love to know more. This foreign subject. Yeah. Good night's sleep. Good night's sleep. Right. And we're just, we're talking fantasy for a second.

But that's what it would happen is you would have then the brain power. And so this is like our sort of consistent over caffeinated lives is that that will mimic the focus That gives, it's a vasodilator, you get a little more blood in there, you can get a little focus. Some people like get jittery. That means they're too far past the sweet spot. But when you're in the sweet spot of the right amount of caffeine in your brain, you can start to do some of those things that are difficult, that are more the executive functioning kinds of things. But most of us waste that energy on stupid stuff and or immediately start using really easy dopamine. Right.

So if we just wake up and we're like, all right, it's time for me to just scroll on YouTube for hours. Let's get some drugs in there. Yeah. It feels like you're just living your day, but it's this accumulation thing that sort of happens throughout the day. So if you can front end the hard stuff, that tends to go better for people. But really, so it's not a, if you're catching my drift, Cherry, it's that it's not a focus problem. it's that your hyper focus comes because of desire, novelty, reward. Basically, all the treats in your brain are getting hit by those things that you're hyper-focusing on.

And it really is a matter of ordering. You know, if you cut out, deleted all of the attention-grabbing things in your life. Like you went cold turkey, wandered in the mountains with nothing to listen to or do, right? for a couple weeks, you might be able to reset some of this. I think like meditation, silent retreats, like people have been doing this for thousands and thousands of years. And, you know, that stuff obviously can help. This is why meditation can help.

There's these things that just kind of help reset or give the brain a little more muscle to stay focused in times it does not want to be. But most of us are not. Most of us are literally training our brain. to have five seconds of attention. Yeah. So attention is really a part of it. You are saying it's reversible though, right?

What I mean by that is you're not permanently wire. Well, I worry about kids, right? Because if they grow up with that constant distraction and then their brains finish up their work, it's 26 or whatever the day the year is now, our brain stopped developing. Does that mean they're at a distinct hardwired disadvantage and you can't get out of that? Or is that still a, you know, do they have hope? hope is what I'm saying. I think and I the research is still out on this.

This is so new and we don't have any 40 year studies, right? Right. Hasn't last of that long yet. 2010 might be the time you could, you know, whenever they shortened the refresh rate to point zero one second or something. And like cartoons went from, you know, one scene would, you know, the art would refresh at five seconds. Whatever it was, right. It switched to very, very, very, very fast. pace. That would be the moment I would want to study all those kids. And I don't know. I'm hoping

someone's doing it. I am not aware of, you know, there's always long, long term studies that are ongoing. So somebody is probably looking at this. But I think where you find some evidence that it's problematic is anxiety rates and depression rates and some other sort of mental dysregulation that can come from constantly messing with your dopamine reward system. Because a lot of really deeply meaningful stuff that makes us happy and feels safe and secure are long games, their relationships, their social connections, they are nature, they are rest, they are things that do not are not fast acting dopamine. So I'm often guiding people to try to really incorporate.

slow dopamine in their lives so that they can sort of counterbalance this. You know, I do know, I mean, I've got kids in this generation, right, who could do it all day and never get off. I mean, I've had a client once. I said, just quickly look at your usage for me because she was on TikTok a lot or something. And it was, this is a person with a job, by the way. Like a full-time job. It was about 11 hours a day.

Jeez. And I don't know. I mean, and she has ADHD and a little bit of autism going on. And so the reward and the ability, I mean, it made her so depressed. It's unbelievable, right? And so we worked on pulling that back and working on slow dopamine and then treating the ADHD. Because that's the thing caveat I want to make here is that if you have ADHD, it means you are not getting enough dopamine naturally occurring because of the way

your brain is sort of wired and what's happening there. Other people who do not have that are going to feel like they have ADHD, right? Because they are training. It's like we're all in training school right now to have, you know, some form of ADHD. And it's why I've tested myself multiple times. Like, I've got to have this because I can not pay attention for about this thing I don't want to do or something. Can you do that? You can test yourself?

Is that just a, like a, how do you do that? It's very preliminary stuff, right? Right. It's nothing official. But I don't have it. I don't have enough symptoms to even make an appointment. But I feel it. You're sure it just won't cover that.

It's like you're not. I know. They will not cover it. You're not distracted enough. I feel it just like everyone feels it right now. Sure. But there are definitely people who are like, have sort of compensated their whole lives for maybe some of this stuff that comes at them.

And then that kind of falls apart in their later years. Yeah. And that is really common. And so people are always asked, I get this question a lot. So is it just that everyone's self-diagnosing because of TikTok? and really we don't all have ADHD. And I'm like, no, actually,

especially for women, they were underdiagnosed forever or never because they have the inattentive type, not the hyperactive type. Oh, I see. And an inattative type just looks like a kid daydreaming. And then they just figure out how to be a good kid, so no one's worried about them.

I mean, there's so many ways to compensate. And then really not be full functioning. And then it's not until later when some of those strategies and the masking kind of falls apart. So I don't know if this is Cherry's story, and I don't know their age or any other things about them, but it would be interesting for them to, you know, is this new? Was this happening as a child? Because one of the diagnostic criteria is this happening as a child. I definitely did not have this as a child. And that piece of like this has kind of always been ongoing. And then the rest of us honestly are just training ourselves for a marathon in ADHD. So, Brian, your, your, let's take you for just a second.

When you, when you wake up in the morning after a terrible night's rest, how do you seek dopamine? And dopamine would, maybe I should use a better word, motivation. And it's motivation for anything. Like what, what's your behavior in the morning that is? I mean, how, like, what, what stage of, because, you're talking like going as early as like, how do I get out of bed or how do I get started with work in the morning or what? Yeah, just start from the very beginning.

Okay. I mean, I get out of bed because I have to, but because my motivation is that Tina's going to get up shortly after me and if I'm not done in the shower in time. So fear is the first motivator. Body. Fear of bodily harm. Got it. Fear bodily harm. Routine is, I mean, if routine can be a motivator, routine is a big motivator for me.

me. It's like, all right, get up. Take morning medicine, get the shower going. While the shower's heating up, I might start whirdle and then think about that while I'm in the shower. And maybe that's it. It could be. That could easily be, you know, the motivators. I mean, but I don't know.

It feels like. Well, it's like a dopamine snack, the wordle. It is. Yeah. Yeah. But you hit on something. I was hoping you just pull out. something and you absolutely did and that is that goodness because i didn't see that that routine is actually a

really great way to artificially create your motivation okay and something that you just follow you do it every day uh it's just how things get done is super helpful for a kid you create the routine for them you make sure there's boundaries and lines and they're just do so much better when they know what to expect and and you know kind of what to do next it it takes away the time decision of should I do a thing. And so it, it sort of keeps you just do a thing. Just do it because that's the order you do things. Yeah. Okay. So that's one. And then, you know, you have sort of the thing that you do. Now, ritual, coffee's probably a piece here where you, you know, you get a little zip and wake up. Do you got to go over to Panera. Get the, get the coffee, get the treats.

There we go. You have your whole ritual. And then the thing I would just suggest anyone doing, if they don't have any kind of ritual in the morning to try to start to create one. It isn't that you get the magic ritual that makes everything great. It's the ritual itself. The ritual itself just reduces decision-making and reduces the fatigue, early fatigue on making and your dopamine system. And especially, Brian, you have great elements of pleasure giving parts of your ritual. Right?

Like that's important. If it was just suffering, it's not going to last. why diets don't work and this is why you know crazy exercise plan suddenly when you've never done them before and you get up at five and work out for a couple months every morning at five usually don't last there's not quite enough pleasure in the ritual to override how hard it is or whatever right so I would say to Cherry like look around your life she's like hey guys I just ask why I hyper focus I'm like no we're redoing your whole life and that's partly because it is really connected.

If you don't sleep, if you don't go to bed on time and you don't get enough sleep, then the morning makes it harder, right? So sometimes you have to work on how you get your night to work better so that you can. And it's tricky. But if this is like not ADHD, this is just hyper-focused on a hobby because it's fun. And then I don't want to do my basic stuff. You could really benefit from just reordering. So start with the crappy stuff first.

So have your morning ritual that has enough pleasure that you'll do it. You don't have to make any decisions. And then you do the, you know, write down three things. You're like, I have to do this. I don't want to do this. But that's where your dopamine goes. And then you reward yourself with a hobby. What you'll find is you will hyper focus slightly less because hyperfocus is also avoidance.

Yeah. I was going to say. It's the difference between them. And then you reward the crappy stuff with the dessert. I like the thinking of it as a reward, but it does make it. makes the work feel like how to do the stick before you get the carrot kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not easy. Now, if you are struggling with ADHD, getting a really good evaluation and maybe some treatment would go a long way to make this not feel like absolute

uphill battle. Like, it's hard for a lot of us, but it is not, if it's so hard, you're like, I'm not functioning. I can't do well at work. I'm getting demoted. I'm, you know, all of the things that start really crashing down, then maybe it's time to really look at that. And I know every single person can relate to this. I can hyper focus on something fun for hours, right? Sure. Yeah. We've all done it. And so it's not a unique human experience.

It's just way more common. And then what we have is no one walks away from those like, I feel awesome. What they do think is I've done nothing I'm supposed to do. They might feel guilty. They might feel judged by someone else. Like, it's never just all pleasantness, right? Yeah. But man, if you got a bunch of your crap done and then you did your hyperfocus hobby,

you go to bed happy. Like, that order really, it's hard to get it. Or we'd all be doing it, right? Yeah, if it's easy, we wouldn't need you, right? It's just veggies before dessert. And that's just it. Yeah. It's that simple.

Yeah. I mean, every kid wants veggies before dessert. And turns out adults haven't changed that much. No, we really haven't. All right. I think this is really helpful. Like we were just talking about how I, we were talking about how fast August is going. We're talking about this pre-show.

And it's just so fast. And I kind of being annoyed that I didn't get everything done I wanted to. But then I started thinking about what I actually got done. And I got a ton done. Like, actually I'm a little ahead of myself in some ways. Nice. I got to stop having that conversation with myself. You know what we're going to do here?

We're going to recommend that freaking war of art book again. I read it for a second time. The book Wendy recommended to me on this show forever ago, 10 years ago, something like that. I don't know how long ago it was. It was something like that. And I bought it the day you mentioned it. Copy came in, let it sit for too long, finally read it. It was amazing.

And I thought, well, I'm never going to forget these principles, but then you do. And so I read it again. And that book is really, really motivational. If you're looking for, look, I know there are trillion books out there telling you how to do things or whatever. But this book is so good at saying, hey, whatever artist you are, whatever creator you are, quit building straw men obstacles that you're constantly pushing out of your own way that are you, that you invented in your own head. And the book is so good at like breaking that down and kind of laying it bare so you can recognize. it cannot recommend it enough if you're in any kind of creative endeavor or not just need to see the kind of obstacles you build for yourself the kind of walls you make yourself crawl that you don't need

to crawl over it's amazing so yeah and and what would be a really fun episode is if someone wanted to write in about the stories they've told themselves and believe and we could talk about the mechanisms that create that reality because it does literally you believe the things thoughts in your head, your body believes them. And then this is that self-fulfilling prophecy, right? And it's really hard to change those stories unless, A, you say them out loud and look at them, but it's an incredibly powerful process. And I think that book does such a good job of going, yeah, I see your BS story.

You've been telling yourself. And now let's deconstruct that. So, yeah, that's a great one. And make sure it's not the art of war. Yeah, don't read the art of war. Don't do that. A whole different book. Yeah.

We're glad that exists because this book plays off of that, obviously. It's like a kind of a joke about it. But, yeah. I assigned this book to a client, and they, I must have said the art of war. And they came back and had read half of the art of art of art. Really? And they were so confused. I'm sure, yeah.

And they're like, I asked everyone, is this what therapy is supposed to be? Yeah. Uh-huh. We're going to learn how to go to war. That's funny, dude. It's terrible. Speaking of war. It's only 16 bucks.

by the way, for if you want the paperback, which is what I got. And it's great. And it's like, quick. You can read this sitting on the toilet. Yeah. If you're like, wait, Stephen Pressfield, doesn't he write fiction, like war fiction and stuff? Yes, that's who this is. And he wrote this because he wanted to explain his, not only his process, but what he thinks gets him over the hump when he's trying to get, you know, deadlines and all this sort of stuff. And he talks a lot about what you said about, um, ritual and, and the kind. In fact, the book literally starts with his ritual. And I think there's some, some, some, key points about that, but it's really, really good, you guys. Anyway, speaking of war, like you said. Yeah, speaking of war.

Put in the chat, Scott. Put in the chat. Okay, so this is a connection I have with some people who have been doing some amazing, really individual work with folks in Gaza who are trapped in their life there. And it's these two young women, one, they've already been able to raise the funds to get her to Italy. And they helped resettle her. It's two women in their 30s, single ladies who are like, you know what? I'm not sitting around anymore.

And so they helped this 20-year-old woman get out, get into college there in Italy, get her settled, sort of, you know, get that. I mean, she was literally starving. Like they had to slowly feed her to get her healthy enough to be functional so she can go to school. And she has a sister still in Gaza who wants to be a doctor. is had started a medical program and then of course everything has just sidelined her whole life brilliant lovely human also starving and so we're just trying to get her out and they raised all the money for this first sister and they're they're just too normal people who can't are using their networks but they're not finding it easy to raise the money and so um i heard about it she sent me

the link and scott has it right you're yep it's in the chat now in fact i'm made you a short version. It is tiny.cc slash help nor nor is her name. N-O-U-R. N-O-U-R is her name. Yep. So tiny.ccc slash help nor and it's that way you don't have to do this giant URL if you're just listening to the show and you're not in the chat today. I will put it in the Discord as well. But use that and you can you can help out. It seems like a really good cause. And you can read all about it. We only need $14,000 to literally give her an entire life and an education. Eventually, it's $14,000 a year,

but once she can get there and maybe there's other ways we can support her. But it's like American money, nothing for school, right? And to save a life and, you know, build this family. Anyway, so I think we're currently

at like maybe $3,700 or something. 30, yeah, just about four. Yeah. Would be awesome. Even if it's a freaking dollar, you guys, if a bunch of you do it, that's a lot more dollars than no dollars. So please consider.

I like this support website. We've all heard a GoFund me and, you know, free funder and all that. But this is called chuffed.com. I'll be really chuffed. Yeah, if y'all can help, we'd be chuffed. Yeah, I kind of love it. Anyway. But, yeah, anyway, so if anyone has questions or more, they could reach out to me too.

Yeah, absolutely. She's just going to save her life. Yeah, let's do it. Let's get her out. Let's do it one person at a time, man. how this should work. Nobody else is helping. May as well be people. Governments can eat it. Wendy, always a pleasure. We make sure you guys are checking out. No Better You.com. Sign up for stuff that's coming up and be a part of that. Anything else you want to mention for you?

Yes. Class is starting September 13th. Go to the website. I will send out a couple more emails to entice you. We've got a bunch of people already signed up. I'm very excited. It's going to be a really, really fun round. So, go check it out. We'll see you later. Hey, Cappy G-Mack just says, I wish Wendy's segments were cut out into their own show so I could share them with people

when they need to hear them. We actually do that with every segment. Mike, Iceworm does it. Oh, that's cool. Been doing them for years. And we're using them to make a big, you know, we're going to make a giant collection of these

so that we can give them to people in whatever form we want. But if you think you've heard an episode and you go, oh, man, today's segment would have been really great to share out just that with this person They're not going to want to hear a whole podcast, but they'd love to hear this segment. We can totally do that.

Just let me know. That's cool. You wanted it. I'll hook you up. Okay. That's it for Wendy. As you can tell, she's gone now. I don't know if that was obvious.

That explains why she's so quiet all of a sudden. Yeah, I know. She really went silent after that. I thought I said something. I'm glad to know it's not me. No, definitely not you. It might have been me, though. Anyway, that's going to be it for a show.

Now, you may ask yourself, you'd say to yourself, Hey, is there a show tomorrow? Myself. The answer would be, yes, there is one. And it's the thing I forgot to mention. So I'm gone the weekend of the 28th. So next weekend. Right?

Yeah. Oh, no, no. I'm sorry, Labor Day weekend is the weekend after. Never mind. Correct. Right? Yeah. Yes.

You're gone the weekend of the 29th. Correct. I'm gone that weekend. Yeah. And as a result, I don't know how we're going to do play date or what we should do. Oh, really? So you're gone Friday, too. So I'm gone that Friday.

I leave Thursday afternoon, I want to say. Okay. I got a double. I'm going to check all these dates today and make sure all my co-host know what's going on. So it might be surprise play date tomorrow is what you're saying? Well, that's the question. Do you want to do that? We'll do play date and then make sure we get one in.

I don't have a, I don't have a trivia game already set up for you. Let's do play date tomorrow. All right. Everyone's cool of that. I would love it. Let's play. Let's get in. So tomorrow 9 a.m.

Play date. We'll do it for two hours. Run till 11. That's mountain time. if you're looking for a good way to figure out what your time zone fits in there. And right after that or about an hour after that, there'll be an episode of the instance live as well. So lots going on tomorrow and part of it will be Playdate.

Surprise, Monica, you good for that? You're all right with that? I guess that's really who we should ask too, is if she can be there for that. Yeah, I would hope so. If you can, great. If not, we'll figure something out. But yeah, play date tomorrow.

Come play some Jackbox games with us. We'll have a great time. And we'll do it live. Everybody's invited. So check it out live here on the channel. What else? Today, Corps at 1 p.m. Coverville right after TMS. Right after this.

Yep. Tanya Donnelly. If you don't think you know Tanya Donnelly, well, then I've got, you know, feed the tree to play for you. I've got Cannonball by the Breeders, a cover of that to play for you. You know, you know Tanya Donnelly's work. You just think you don't, but you do. You just think you don't. And one of the greatest new wave, now post-punk songs, not too soon by the.

the throwing muses where we can all sing like we're playing guitar. Hell yeah. Yep. Hell yeah. Anyway, that's right after the show. So if you're here already, stick around for those checking it later, coverville.com. And of course, core at 1 p.m. right here on the channel. Perfect.

Oh, no. Noon. Sorry. We moved it to noon. Oh, you can do noon. Noon core. Noon core. We get started a little early so we can end a little sooner. And that'll be at noon today.

Sorry. I'm so used to one. I wrote it right there. All right. Let's get out here with a song. Do you have something? Yeah, this goes out to Captain Ed, who says on Thursday, I turn 56, another year around, the Great Circle in Space. To celebrate this weekend, I'm going to ride a bunch of miles and eat a bunch of donuts at the Tour to Donut bicycle event. We have one of those here. I need to do it.

That sounds awesome. It's actually close to the house, too. It's really close. What do you do? Every quarter mile, you get a donut. It feels like I'd barf. Or you get a quarter of a donut or something. I can't remember what the deal. Maybe it's every mile you get a donut.

I can't remember. But yeah, they do it over here from the, it's Arvada Triathlon, and it's the, it might also be called Tour to Donut. Anyway, assuming the rainy Ohio weather holds off, it should be a fun day. Well, should be, should be perfect. His request is,

Crazy Frog or any cover of all I need is a miracle, upbeat if possible. Dude, I'm going to spare us all and not do Crazy Frog. Thank you for, for asking, but no, not going to happen. How about a band called Iron Savior? When you hear the name Iron Savior, Scott, what music would you guess that Iron Savior plays?

Sounds like ancillary Iron Man character, doesn't it? It does, Iron Savior, yeah. Someone stole one of his suits, became a villain, and became the Iron Savior. Sure. Thought he was going to save everybody. I'm trying to think, Iron... Iron Savior.

Iron Maiden. I don't know. I hear metal. When I hear the... name it's got to be a metal like genre yeah metal for sure genre yeah genre yeah type of music uh they came out with an album this year called awesome anthems of the galaxy yeah i think they're maybe trying to do a little guardians of the galaxy thing there with awesome and galaxy and the logo and all that stuff but you know what it's hair metal it's covers that they're great and i'm here for all of it uh here is their cover of mike the mechanics all i need is a miracle iron savior