The Morning Stream - TMS 3058: Mustache Mandate
Episode Date: August 25, 2026Another Manic Tuesday. It's the mustard gas what did it! Don't look at me, I am offensive. Call your doctor if your arm falls off after 4 hours. Keep Bobby & Wendi Apart. Get Your Bits And Your Se...gments STRAIGHT! Polyblend Workout. Am I having a Migraine or a Mind-graine? McDoxing your order. So, apparently, without further ado... Who's Ruby? The Official Word on Placebos. That Motherfather Effect is Not Real! Subs as a Service. Repairs on a corpse with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.VIDEO: https://youtu.be/YYKRo37jE1Q Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, another manic Tuesday.
It's the mustard gas what did it.
Don't look at me. I'm offensive.
Call your doctor if your arm falls off after four hours.
Keep Bobby and Wendy apart.
Get your bits in your segments straight.
Poly blend workout.
Am I having a migraine or a mind grain?
McDoxing your order.
So apparently, without further ado,
who's Ruby?
The official word on placebos.
That mother father effect is not real.
Subs as a service.
Repairs on a corpse with Bill and more on this episode of the morning stream.
Hello and welcome.
This is Jeff Tracy speaking to you from the headquarters of International Rescue.
You know,
We've been kept pretty busy since we set up this operation, and I'm very proud of the work being done by the Thunderberg's team.
Last year, Elliot, got undressed, stood on a rock and screamed.
Hello, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream for August 25th, and the morning stream for August 25th,
And the year is 2026.
I am Scott Johnson.
That is Brian Abbott.
Hello.
Hello.
It's another Tuesday.
Another manic Tuesday as the Bengals famously sang.
Yep.
All about them Tuesdays, man.
That's right.
Six o'clock already.
I was just waking up from drinking on a Monday night.
No?
No.
I don't remember it.
There's also a restaurant called Ruby Fridays.
Yeah.
Right.
Thank God it's Wednesday.
Yeah.
Or TGI Wednesdays is also another good one.
Yeah.
It's Thursday. I'm in love.
Says the cure.
That's right.
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the show.
We're glad to have you here.
We hope you're all well and having an okay week so far.
I went to the gym today and watched a very old man in full street clothes workout.
That was fun.
Oh, interesting.
Slacks.
Did he at least have tennis shoes or were they like work boots?
They were regular.
I'm talking like officey clothes.
Like he had penny loafer looking shoes, brown leather shoes and,
some kind of, I don't know, material, what do you call it?
Not full on.
What was it in the 80s we had?
It was like a material everyone hated and made fun of.
Oh, polyester.
Polyester.
It was like that kind of, some kind of mix.
And then he had on like a poly blend.
Yeah, like a poly blend.
And then like a polo shirt on top of that.
And he's just cranking on the stuff and doing the thing.
And I just thought, that's gross, man.
Don't be worried.
You are going to reek at work.
Yeah.
I assume he, you know, was heading right there after this, but I have no idea.
It was really weird.
Dang.
Yeah, lots of fun.
Hey, I got one of these because I couldn't get over it.
So I'm going to share it.
Check this out.
Where did it go?
I lost my thing.
Oh, where's my history today thing?
Gosh, dang it.
I moved some of my files.
Oh, I want to hear the voice.
Yeah, here we go.
Okay, there he is.
Yesterday is history today.
All right.
So I found this fact that just took me by surprise.
During the 19th and early 20th centuries, Brian.
Remember those? Those were a thing.
I mean, I remember them, remember reading about them.
Well, the 20th, we were here for a while.
Oh, that's true. Yeah, but not the early, not the early 20th centuries.
No, no, those were, they did that without us.
Yes.
British soldiers serving in the Victorian military were actually forbidden by law to shave their upper lip.
They were required by punishable law to grow an effing mustache.
Wow.
Under command number 1695 and the Knights Regulations, sorry, King's regulations, my mouse is hovering over the wrong place.
Every soldier in the British Army was legally required to wear a mustache from 1860 to 1916 of a soldier shaved his upper lip.
He faced disciplinary action, imprisonment or a fine.
Imagine going to prison because you didn't have a mustache.
Could you, but you probably were still required to trim it, right?
Oh, keep it neat and clean and stuff.
Yeah, like you probably couldn't just let it grow and grow and grow and, you know, turn into like a whole, you know, that whole long foo man shoe style kind of thing.
You probably had to...
According to the side I found, they said the mandate exists to make soldiers look more intimidating to enemies.
And if I was intimidated by a mustache, I would want it to be more gnarly and hairy and nasty.
But I'm guessing you're right.
The Brits are too, they're too uppity, man.
They're not going to let that stuff grow.
It's like the opposite of, well, I was going to say the opposite of the New York Yanke.
they did allow mustaches, but they were like rules about how long the mustache could be.
And you couldn't have like, you couldn't have long hair as a New York Yankee.
You like had to have, you know, short hair, a neatly trimmed mustache.
I don't know how they felt about beards, but.
I wonder if that actually affected the scores or average wins or anything.
They were, you know, one of the winningest teams in the 80s and 90s.
That's true.
Maybe it worked. Maybe there's a thing there.
It says here they had to drop this.
They repealed the law.
It was an actual law on the books.
They repealed it during World War I
because facial hair prevented gas masks
from sealing properly against soldiers' faces.
So it's the mustard gas.
What did it?
Interesting. Yeah, it makes sense.
Because if this thing gets too long,
it impedes the CPAP.
Is that how that works?
It could contain mustard gas.
For some reason, I thought that went up a nose thing.
You can.
There are several different kinds of interfaces that go interface.
Enter your face.
Some of them have just the nostril things, and you wear the thing around and just got two little pipes that go up the nose.
Some of them are like the full nose and mouth deal.
I've got one that is, it just goes under the nose, but instead of having two things that go up,
It is just a single air or two, two air things that are positioned right around the nostrils.
Oh, they just blow in there or whatever.
They just blow and you just position it right.
And yeah, I mean, if you're not positioned right, you can kind of get it blowing, you know, up the side of your nose into your eye or something.
Yeah.
A little dry eye in the morning.
A little dry in the morning.
But for the most part, no, it's it positions itself right.
You know when it's not right.
And you kind of, in my sleep, I fix it.
So people can't, oh, and you don't even know you fixed it.
Like you don't wake up.
Right.
I'm fully unaware of it.
Like, if, you know, if it happens, like, I wake up and it's right where it needs to be.
So I'm sure that as I roll around, I imagine it gets out of place and I just need to fix it and stuff.
So they just, you get the one that you like the best.
Is that how it works?
You just kind of pick the, okay.
Yeah, they didn't give me when I initially got the CPAP.
They didn't really say, here, all the stuff.
the different kinds try them and see which kind you like they said all right this is the one you're
you're going to get this is the one you're going home with and that was the the um the two things up the
nose um i said well let me try you know later on after that for a couple of years and it was fine except
it uh it deadens or for me anyway deadens the area like around the nose or at least makes it less
sensitive here's where that becomes a problem it's that like if you get a little bit of a cold and your
nose starts running, you, when you, you know, you want the sensitivity there, but then you feel
your nose start running. If you don't have that, it's like, oh, my nose is running. Sorry, excuse me.
Oh, my gosh, I'm horrible. Don't look at me. I'm offensive. I'm hideous. Don't look at me.
Exactly. Yeah. Your wife has to point it out. That's the thing. You're out in public.
Which is kind of the worst also. You don't have that. Yeah. I hate that when that happens.
I don't want that. I do too. Tina's, Tina's really good. Like, you know, like, if I get a little bit of
dead skin on the side of my nose, she'll be like, just look at me and go.
And I know that that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, go check yourself before you wreck
yourself, a symbol. Yeah. That's a, that's what our wives. Our wives are great at many things,
but this is one. Sorry, sorry, sorry, audio only listeners. That one's purely visual. I can't,
I can't, uh, I can't describe that one. Use your imaginations. That's right. Uh,
yesterday we talked about placebos. Uh, and whether they're appropriate when and how and, you,
They get used today in what ways and can a doctor just give one to a patient, that sort of thing.
And we put it out to Dr. Tolbert to answer it.
And boy, did he deliver.
Excellent.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the next full minute of audio with Dr. Tolbert weighing in on placebos.
Check it out.
Good morning, jents.
Your friendly neighborhood family doc swinging by to respond to your questions, or in this case, the question from Thomas from Missouri, about the use of placoes.
While it may not be entirely illegal to use a placebo on a patient without their knowledge, it is considered incredibly unethical.
Using a placebo without a patient's knowledge goes against one of the core principles of medicine.
Honesty. In effect, the physician would be lying to the patient, not working with them to formulate a plan.
We want to maintain patient trust. I mean what I say, and I say what I mean. That trust is paramount in a patient physician relationship.
In some cases, with the patient's permission and full knowledge, we could create a plan where the patient receives a medication and that sometime that medication is replaced with another medication and then perhaps a third medication.
If one of those is a placebo, we can determine if a side effect or a benefit from a specific medication is actual or more of it.
its own placebo effect. But that needs to be done in a way that the patient is aware. They don't
know which one of the three is a placebo, just that one of them will be. No matter what,
medical decision making requires knowledge and mutual understanding. And so we want to make sure
that the patient is always aware and agreeable to any treatment plan. I hope that helps.
And if there are other questions, don't hesitate to page me. All right. That's kind of what I figured.
That's great. Something in that vein. The not explicitly a legal thing is interesting,
but very, very unethical. Here's my question, though, a follow.
up, if you will. You don't have to answer this, Dr. Tolbert, but it's curious to me. A lot of people think,
well, your brain will go, well, I know I'm on this deal where I'm, one of my three medications
might end up being a placebo. You're in on the plan, right? Right. Right. And so you're thinking is,
well, I'll wait until I, or I'll see if I don't feel better during one of these periods.
And that'll be the placebo. I'll be able to tell because I'm not getting tricked by no placebo.
my brain would go the other way and say
how do I know how would I flip this?
Because the way I think about it is like
one of these is the placebo
and I would think before I would think
anything else I would think
that the stuff I'm taking never works.
It's hard to explain.
Like you're supposed to go and going
oh the medication is going to save me
but I would go and going
none of this stuff's going to work
because who knows when the placebo is coming up.
Psychologically it's important.
possible for you not to, I won't say affect the results because it's medicine. It either affects
you or it doesn't. However, what could be affected by the psychology of it is how you feel about it.
If you, you know, if it's like, yeah, I must have gotten the placebo because my arm fell off. That's a
pretty, you know, pretty decisive thing that you didn't get the right medicine. But if it's like,
oh, am I really having a headache right now? Is this, was this a migraine? Maybe it isn't a migraine.
this is worse and that sort of thing. Your mind can totally have an effect on that sort of thing
because you're either expecting to feel relief from medicine or you're expecting not to feel
relief from the placebo whether or not you're getting those results. Yeah. And you might not trust it
at all to start with thinking none of this is going to work for me. And then can that be the
placebo effect and even if they never gave you a placebo, your resistance to thinking any of this
is going to work will make it not work as a version of the placebo effect, I wonder? I don't know.
It can get all twisted and weird, but...
In any case, on MASH, they didn't do it right because they did not tell the patients that they
were giving them sugar pills.
No. I think if it's a war, you probably have some...
There's some different leeway.
Yeah, exactly, yes.
Because the whole deal was they couldn't get the stuff, right, or whatever. It was like...
I-Corps or whoever.
Exactly.
They didn't have a big enough supply.
Wasn't an I-Corps that he always had to call?
Yeah, it was I-Corps, yeah.
Well, now I can't hear that word without thinking of Kevin.
Of our own I-Corps.
Yeah.
That's throwing me off.
Bobby says the positive effect is not real.
It's not a real effect.
It's either in affecting someone else or it's not.
It's not a real effect, period.
This is the argument you had with Wendy in the green room at Nertacular.
These two were going at it.
Really?
Yeah.
About the placebo effect.
And Bobby, Bobby had some.
Well, let's just say he had some very frank word, Bobby Franks had very frank opinions.
They're still not talking those two.
Oh, they hate each other's guys, just hate it.
We can't even do, when we do future events now, we have to choose which one of the two we want.
Yeah, if we're like, is it a Bobby week or is it a windy week?
Because I notice they're never on the show at the same.
That's not true.
This has already happened recently.
Yeah, yeah.
Or he was on here on a Thursday and so is she.
Right.
But yeah.
Even numbered year events, you'll see Bob.
Bobby, odd number of your events.
You'll see when.
There you go.
We'll keep them apart that way.
Well, thank you, Dr. Tolbert.
It was very nice for you to take your time and send that in.
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And some of it is just nonsense.
Like today's, well, yesterday's technically.
It's just a couple of chickens and one of them got a giant chicken or giant egg under their butt.
And the other chicken says, nice, Carol, real nice.
We're all very impressed.
I don't even know what it means except, I mean, it's impressive.
It's a big cloaca.
It's like, you know, it's like the mom that shows up with the much better soccer van to pick up her kids from school.
Like, oh, nice van, Carol.
We're all really impressed.
Yeah, very nice.
Showing the rest of the chicken coop, how it's done.
Anyway, dumb stuff like that.
expect more of that today. In fact, I have a pretty good one today. Cool. It makes fun of NFTs.
Oh, good. And you'd think, well, Scott, isn't that kind of old news? No, that's, you'll see when I do it. It'll make sense in a 2026 context.
Ripped from today's headlines. That's right. Newduck.com. All right. Let's get into it. McDonald's has hundreds of pages of intel on its repeat customers.
And you can get a copy of yours, Brian. Wow. Wow. Yeah. You want that actually? Just to ask the question.
question raw here?
It would be interesting.
I'd be curious to see what information they have.
They'll probably say, you know, usually gets the, I don't even know when I get like the,
because they don't have the big deal to you anymore.
No.
But it would be something like that, right?
Like usually gets the quarter pounder with cheese and leaves half of it.
Yep.
We have to clean up or something like that.
Yeah, I would be curious to see.
Keep bitching about the fact that we have Diet Coke, but no Coke's.
zero.
Yeah.
Or why are these french fries taste like they would last in my car for six months without decaying?
Exactly.
It says you can get a copy of yours.
For most people, the mental calculation to grab a meal at McDonald's is pretty simple.
It's relatively cheap, fast, and easy going down, even if it doesn't always feel good afterwards.
Well, that's the truth.
For McDonald's, however, the question of how to keep a customer coming back is more complicated,
apparently requiring an expansive web of corporate surveillance.
Wow.
that's the stunning revelation from the Wired Report from Reese Rogers,
who recently uncovered the supersized McDossier.
That's really dumb.
Detailing everything from past orders to loyalty points and even the codes he scanned
from the fast food chain's monopoly sweepstakes.
I was wondering how that may play into this, the monopoly thing.
Sure, sure.
And you had some time.
You were into that for a while, right?
I was doing it for a while because it was fun.
You know, like we think I would get, I ended up getting like, the best I got was like a free extra value meal or something.
It was like, all right, cool.
Yeah, I kind of remember being a little driven.
I like the collecting aspect of it.
Yeah, yeah.
But in hindsight, I don't think I like the food aspect of it.
The part that you had to go there to eat.
The actual eating aspect of it was less, yeah.
There's some talk that they are revamping their menus in response to Burger King having a,
resurgence and they're not keeping up or I don't know this probably some of these numbers yeah
so I don't know what that means I'm still all getting blown away by subway of all places
subway's still number one yeah that is insane to me yeah I mean sub I haven't been to subway in
oh gosh it's been like 10 years because we got jimmy john's firehouse and jersey mics all probably
nearby as well yeah I'm not going to far better subs why would I ever go to subway first
when I have all of those.
Right.
Here's why,
and I think those things all sprang out of the popularity of subway
and subs as a general category.
And then these things all,
these things all,
you know,
exploded.
But even they have not eroded too much away of what subway is.
And they even had a freaking pedophile for a spokesman.
Exactly.
That's how much of a cockroach that place is.
It can survive that.
But it's,
you know,
it is,
it is volume.
TV's Travis point out,
it is volume.
They have,
you know,
for you and I, we're in
suburbs, metropolitan areas close
by, so we've got all of
these other sub options. But
subway is in a lot of places where
those other places aren't. And so
they are the only game in town
if you don't want a burger. When we
drive to Utah,
we stop off in
Rollins because it's a perfect place,
just about the right amount of miles
to refill the tank.
And you've got two choices.
You've got a subway and a taco
Bell in the town of Rollins.
And it's like, yeah, we could go, we could just get guests here and then go another 10 to 20 miles.
But we're stopping now.
Let's just get food.
And in every case, we've gone to the Taco Bell because we just don't want to be, just don't want to go subway.
Yeah, which is interesting, right?
Because Taco Bell wouldn't even meet my first choice on the trip.
But I'll take it over Subway.
Over Subway, for sure, right?
Yeah.
You're going to say, all right, well, I'm just not going to get the ground beef.
I'm going to make sure I stick to, uh,
to chicken and maybe not any weird sauces that they're trying out this month.
They also, didn't they have a whole controversy where it was like couch cushions or yoga mats in their bread or something?
The same material that's in yoga mats.
I think that was it.
It was either right that their bread and yoga mats share 98% of the DNA.
Yeah, I just, I don't know, man.
I just don't get it over there.
But there was a time in my young years.
where I was going to subway all the time.
So yeah.
I think I just less discerning back then.
I know we always say this,
but I kind of miss Quiznos.
Oh,
I love,
I do miss Quiznos.
I loved Quiznos, dude.
Yeah.
People complain that they cut the roof of your mouth
with all the toasted, whatever.
Freaking boo,
boo,
freaking who.
Go somewhere with nice soft.
Learn to eat a sandwich.
Yeah.
If that's happening.
Toughen up your mouth and eat a real sandwich,
boys.
Yeah.
Oh,
pop belly, definitely.
Listen,
Scott and I,
thanks to Scooby Geek,
who is a pot-belly marketing guy.
Yeah.
Scott and I both have a bunch of free sandwiches.
And I would go, I go occasionally, I would go a lot more to pot-belly if it was closer to me.
Yeah.
Our pandemic, our pandemic, the pandemic killed our location that we had just up the road.
If they hadn't had done that or if that hadn't had gone away, 1,000% where I would go.
Like, I still like mics.
I like Jimmy John.
I like other alternatives.
But if there is a pot bellies that is closer than anything else,
F all y'all.
Even if there's a potbellies that's slightly further than Jersey Mike's Jimmy Johns,
I will go to the pot belly because, and more than, more than a firehouse.
I like their toasted sub is just right.
It's really good.
Yeah, they had the, it wasn't rats, Free Rangers, Quiznos,
and the singing rat commercials, they were sponge monkeys is what they were.
And weren't they pulled, wasn't that the first example we had of something that got pulled from an internet meme?
When internet memes were like super, nobody knew what an internet meme was.
Yeah.
Can I remember who the animation studio, the advertising studio was, but they were also the ones who did the dancing.
Like the meme was the dancing cats, which they also did for the elbow cover of independent women by Destiny's Child.
That's right.
And it was that those weird dancing cats
And then they said, oh, we could do advertising with this as well
Yeah, there's a whole, that's a whole deep dive.
I wouldn't mind going down because.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
Because there's like early 2000s and nobody
Like nowadays, if you saw, I don't know,
some six, seven bullshit in a commercial, you go, well, of course.
Yeah.
You're pulling from today's because the internet culture is now closer to real,
it's kind of shitty too, but it's all kind of mush together now.
but back in the day
we didn't know what this was it was weird
yeah you know
rather good dot com
trying to think of what
trying to rather good that's it's it
trying to think of what
what meme you could use right now
today that's current
a few years ago
there were things I think now it's all such
it's all so vapid and shitty
it really is like skibbitty toilets
sorry sorry
uh gen alphas
uh your skibity toilet
the thing is just ridiculous.
Yeah.
It's dumb.
It is dumb.
I mean,
part of the reason it's dumb is it got so big when it started.
Part of the reason it's big is because it's so dumb.
It's because it's so dumb.
Yeah, it's hard to get around.
Snake eating its tail.
Yeah.
What's the other thing I heard the other day about,
what was it?
I had another conversation about this and it was something that got blew up so big
that it ruined the whole point of it being this gorilla thing that would not be.
This stuff's better when only you and.
two friends know about it.
You know what I mean?
Because then it's like this little thing between you
and you kind of know this funny weird thing.
And it's like, what was that the Battoosie dance site?
Oh, you're the man now dog.
Yeah.
Remember when that was the thing?
I freaking love that shit.
Yes.
Yeah.
But now, I'm like, I don't know.
Everything's bad now.
Yeah.
You know what it is?
It's a lot of people in their 20s going.
So, apparently, the internet has gone viral.
This is how they talk now.
Yes.
I hate it.
Like they're just now discovering this thing that they've been binging for the last three days,
trying to come up with what video they're going to come up with to capitalize on it.
So I just heard about this thing called 6-7.
I don't know anything about it.
Let's kind of learn about it together.
Meanwhile, meanwhile, search history for, you know, the week has been,
what is 6-7?
Tell me about 6.7.
Yeah.
I don't like it when they do like, um, there's this guy.
Oh, dad yells a cloud.
Whatever the rain.
No, whatever you.
You know we're right, dude.
Exactly.
I watch people.
So here's my impression of your modern TikTok type personality, Instagrammer.
There's this guy that always comes up to my feet.
I don't know why.
I've blocked him, but then people will still do his shit and put it on their accounts.
And then I see it again.
So then you see it that way.
Still see it.
He holds one of them little furry road mics up.
Oh, yeah.
And he has to hold it right here.
And for whatever reason, he does this when he talks.
He goes, apparently.
And he moves like this.
He doesn't have a condition or anything.
He doesn't have like any problem with him.
He's just like, apparently so-and-so has gone viral for a post-Ariana Grande is apparently not eating anymore.
And you're like, you're like you were talking the other day about how bad, what's the John Tesh show?
Entertainment Tonight is.
This stuff's so much worse.
what we're doing to ourselves.
It's so much worse.
For sure.
For sure.
And don't even, no, you're going to get me started because I'm going to start on this.
I'm going to freaking rant about the stupid green screen behind me showing the actual video,
but me, just my body, me talking about it, hovering around talking about this stupid thing.
This is, it is you're killing media.
You're killing.
you're killing what is considered to be
intelligent discourse over
over a visual presentation.
Yeah, there's like, and maybe there's a way to do it right,
but no one's doing it.
You're never going to see a news thing,
streaming online, whatever,
where the newscaster, the anchor is sitting there floating,
just them in front of a thing going,
oh, okay, well, it looks like,
the straight of Hormuz is
And I look, I'll acknowledge that things move on,
taste change, and maybe this is what it feels like to move on and be like our parents and have stuff happen in the 90s and go,
what the hell are you kids up to?
What's a tomoguchi?
Like there, maybe that's what this is and this is a form of that.
I'll cop to that.
But you have to at least admit, compare all past.
moments in time.
Has stuff to look shittier than it is now?
It's so shitty.
It hasn't. It is just shitty.
It's crappy production, low quality.
Yeah, the microphone thing bugs the hell out of me too with the holding that you don't know.
You don't understand how microphones work if you're holding that thing right in front of your mouth.
Also, if one more person starts a sentence with so when they do that video.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or apparently, apparently, you don't say apparently ever again if you're not going to use it right.
or or stop thee without further ado.
Oh, dude, I hate that.
Yeah.
I hate it.
It's, it's just, it should not be your transition into your intro, into your main content without further ado.
Look at John Oliver.
He goes, and now this.
That's just fine.
It's great.
And he also kind of coined it.
And it's good.
And he can hold it.
Exactly.
Here's the thing.
Look, I know we're going to get emails and people are going to go, you guys have crutch words.
You guys have crutch friends.
You do it all the time.
Of course we do.
Everybody's got this tendency.
Absolutely is one of mine.
Yeah.
But there's a battle at play.
And the battle, it's not about the war.
It's about us every day fighting it, trying not to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I try really hard not to do it.
Sometimes I'll say a thing.
It'll catch on for a while.
And then I'll try not to do it because I'm not trying to bear.
I'm not trying to pound it into the ground.
So like the gamers we heard you thing is fun for about a month.
And then now I'm trying to not do it.
Right.
Because, and I'll hear myself,
So, all right, guys, and my brain goes, we heard you.
And I'll go, nah.
Uh-huh.
We didn't hear you.
It's a natural thing to ease into.
The reason this show exists was as an anti, it's the punk version of a radio station morning show without the obnoxious phony phone calls and the, you know, hunk and a horn in the background and also the pre, you know, Scott and I, you probably, everybody should already know this.
but we don't have bits.
We have sections and our things that are saying,
here's the news stories.
But with a Rolato radio,
there are,
there are,
it sounds like it's off the cuff,
but it is a,
it is a bit that they're like,
yeah,
it's like,
okay,
now you act,
you get offended by this,
and that'll lead perfectly into this news story
that we want to cover
and just act like you're offended or whatever.
Well,
you know,
you think that's bad,
Marge,
wait till you hear about this.
Yeah.
Like,
by the way,
that I talk about something modern.
and I use the name Marge.
Marge.
Marge.
I think it's fine.
I mean,
she's a famous character
in a somewhat modern way
with the Simpsons,
but I think it still fits.
I'm all right with that.
Like,
it's either Marge.
Like,
I used Carol in that comic today.
And Carol,
I haven't heard about it.
I haven't talked about someone
named Carol in a hundred years.
Right, right.
Luke Cyborg says,
you guys can be very biddy at times.
Yeah,
but we don't plan the bits.
That's the thing.
We don't say,
oh,
let's do a bit about this
and pretend,
you know,
Oh, yeah, there's no pretending.
It's all...
Everything is real reaction, real...
Yeah, if he thinks a bit, if he thinks a bit is, oh, it's time for the news.
And me doing that as a bit, that's not a bit.
That's an intro.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
Get your bits and your segment straight.
All right.
We're just fun with you guys.
All right.
Let's get into...
Let's talk about this stuff for Fonzie here.
It's real to me, damn it.
It is real to me.
There's still something wrong, isn't there, Bill?
Well, well, well, look who it is.
It's Bill Duran all the way from the Pacific Northwest
where Punished Props happens each and every day.
Bill, what's going on?
Yeah.
I just want everyone to know that I am willing to go to the mat for pot-belly sandwiches.
Yeah, dude.
Oh, yeah.
You will find us perfect teammates in this battle because we love it.
Fabulous.
Tell me your pot-belly distance.
What is it?
Do you have one that's 10 minutes away, 15?
Short of 10?
Yeah, no, less than 10.
It's close.
Oh, yeah.
I want to be you.
I do too.
My mom is flying in.
Actually, she'll be here in about two hours.
And we're going to, like, cook lunch.
And I got my smoker ready.
We're going to make burgers.
And then I'm going to put her to work making some...
No.
Yeah.
But I just...
I wish instead we'd plan to go just go get Pop Billy sandwich.
Yeah, dude.
After all this talk, it's probably worse.
Well, uh, say hi to your mom for us.
Yeah.
Say hi to your mom for us.
Say hi to your mother.
It's very New York of us to do that.
It's good to have you here, man.
It's, uh, dangerously, precariously.
close to DragonCon.
I'm amazed you have time to talk to us.
I know.
Yeah.
Well, that's why mom's going to have to be painting my armor later today.
She really is.
I was joking about that.
But yeah, Mom, you get lunch.
But here, take this and sand it for the next half hour.
And then you're going to earn this lunch, mom.
That's amazing.
So that's going on.
But we also, we got a new video out over at Punishprops.com of our YouTube channel that is not
at all related to DragonCon.
Instead, I did a project.
My friend Todd hired me to help him make a really cool thing.
Oh, I like cool things.
Todd is my neighbor.
He's a droid builder.
He's a 501st Star Wars costume maker.
He's got something like 80 approved 501st costumes.
He's a nut.
He's also a, oh, I met him because I was walking past his house.
He lives like two blocks away, and I looked up the driveway at his garage is full of
Astrobeck droids, and I just let myself in.
I just, hello, neighbor we're friends now.
I would like to have Todd's hair.
Am I allowed to say that?
Is that okay?
Because Todd's got cool hair, man.
You can try.
You can try.
It ain't going to work.
I try as I might.
I'd have to 3D print my head.
Wow, it's like three different hairstyles in one.
It's like he's got like the curly fro thing, but also.
He's Colonel Sanders from his teen years is what it looks like.
Kind of is, yeah.
Like, one day I'll make chicken, but for now it's all about the lady.
It's all about the resident heads.
Even though Todd is a costume maker, this project was for his day job.
He is a mortician and an instructor, a teacher.
Oh, wow.
So part of his instruction is students will have to learn how to make repairs on a corpse using wax, usually on the face.
If there was any damage done to the head or face.
So somebody died in a car accident.
Oftentimes I'll have fractured skull issues and stuff.
It's all very dark, but from a job perspective, somebody's got to do that for the wake or whatever.
So Todd sculpted a head that has examples of the different types of damage a head might have that the students have to repair.
He sculpted this all by hand, and then we wanted to make a mold of it.
And then, so I got all high tech, and I 3D scanned his sculpt using my phone.
I used polycam for doing 3D scanning for my phone.
Nice.
I was able to drop that into Fusion to.
to make the mold jacket.
Now normally the old school way,
this is called a matrix mold,
the old school way of doing this,
you would take your sculpted head,
and you would cover it in like a half inch layer of clay,
like a wed clay.
And then on top of that clay,
you would make your rigid jacket mold
onto something like fiberglass.
It's this two-step process.
You gotta then peel the clay away,
clean up your thing, and then put the jacket back on
to make your silicon mold.
We were able to skip the whole clay step because I 3D printed the jacket.
Wow.
Because I had a 3D model of the sculpt, I could throw it into fusion and model this rigid jacket around the head with a gap in between it for the silicone to go.
Which is great because you can you can do just the right size and not have a ton of extra.
By the way, that jacket, I don't know why I'm getting Marvel Destroyer vibes from that thing, but I totally am.
Oh, dude, it's pretty metal as AF.
It really is, yeah.
I just want to wear one of those like a mid-Guar or something.
Yeah, it's really cool.
You know, I'll send you the STLs, Brian, if you really want to print one and wear it.
Walk around with that on your head.
So what's the, was it just Vaseline or something you were putting between them to make them?
I didn't know.
What was that stuff you're wiping on that?
So that was a, that's a wax.
Okay.
And I put it on the inside of the mold.
I didn't sand the 3D print at all, so it still got some texture in there.
So I just covered it in wax.
So that the silicone, when it goes in there and cures, it's not going to bind or anything.
And that works extremely well.
Interesting.
Okay.
Oh, wow.
Look at this thing.
So that's a lot of filament.
It's bigger than I thought.
Yeah, it's about a spool and a half of filament.
For the print, we did it in Pet G on the Prusa XL.
The prints came out amazing.
They do.
They look really clean, really, really sharp.
So then.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, then the whole thing goes together.
over the original sculpt that Todd did,
and then we can fill the mold with silicone
to make the actual mold.
Oh, that's rad.
So that makes the reverse, that makes your reverse.
You're negative, right?
Yeah.
So the top is, yeah, that's where you're going to pour.
I love that, yeah, that just little hole right there in the top.
Yeah, perfect.
What is these, what are you guys digging through horse poo?
What is this?
No, that's 20 years of different colors of clay, all mixed into one.
Oh, nice.
That's how that's the whatever that color is that's what it makes.
Oh wait.
It's an oil-based clay.
Yeah.
It's a non-solidifying clay for mold making.
How do you keep it?
Maybe you're actually showing it right this second.
What I'm looking at.
But how do you keep it from?
Because you need air to escape or is that what this clay is for us to stop that?
No.
Actually, I was pointing at little holes.
There's bleeder holes in the mold.
So when you pour the silicone in, there's room for air to get out.
And then when the silicone gets to the level of your bleeder hole,
you cover them in clay.
You can tell how full it is based on what hole it hits.
Oh, that's cool.
So basically, yeah, you've got like, all right, here's this exit.
Okay, you guys are all moving past this exit.
Now we're going to open up this exit.
And now we're going to close this exit because you've all passed it.
I wonder how many bleeder hole titles we're going to get here in a minute.
Oh, geez.
Anyway, we're not using any of them, folks.
No, just don't waste your typing.
That's rad.
I assume some point we're going to see this thing come out,
I'm going to be blown away.
Oh, I love the pouring part.
Let's watch that.
Yeah, the silicone's really, really delicious looking.
I love it.
Why is it so you want to eat it, dude?
Right.
And the purple, that's like a lavender purple, this one, this one, this was old max 25.
It's really, really pretty.
Is it bad that you got some leakage coming out of those bleeder holes on the side?
Is it bad to eat that?
Yeah.
It would be bad, right?
Yeah.
It looks so good.
It does.
Like yogurt or something, like some kind of, I don't know what it is.
It needs to be served cold.
Anyway, there you go.
Look at that.
Look at that rubber deal.
It's like Audrey 2 or something is.
Pod people are living in that thing.
The jacket mold, we keep that for when we're casting it, it holds the silicone rigid.
The silicone is a little floppy so that we keep that outside mold.
Then we had to cut the head out of the silicone.
We could have to try to do it in two cores.
but we
had to cut it out using a mold knife
to leave registration and everything.
The sculpt inside, the wax sculpted inside,
did get destroyed.
It fell apart.
For some reason, I mean,
once we have the mold
that we don't need the master anymore,
but for some reason,
this mortuary wax,
whatever it's made of,
was clinging really hard to the...
Oh, to the inside of the mold.
Oh, interesting.
So you've got to pry that out.
Like, it doesn't just peel out,
you've got a no uh which was surprising to me what is that what's the material do you know i mean
it's called it's mortuary wax but even todd isn't quite sure what his makeup is i think it's all dead
bodies all mush together do they is it something that they use on on uh corpses yes yeah i mean it's his
sculpting medium of choice right it's the way i guess so sure yeah and he you said he teaches
so like if somebody you know like oh their cheekboge cheekboge cheekboe
got damaged in an accident, but we can fill their cheekbone and make them look a little bit more like
they could before. It probably takes makeup really well, I'm guessing. That's the other reason.
But did, does he, you said he teaches. It's just like at a mortuary, he teaches other morticians.
It's at a tech school. I can't remember the name of the tech school.
That's fascinating. Some schools just have a, have a mortuary program.
All right. Yeah. I bet many of them. I knew a kid in, well, he was a kid then, but he was 18 when I knew him,
who was going to be a mortician. And the reason that we knew it for sure,
is he would never stop talking about it,
but also he carried with him one of those,
that tool that you jam up in the ribs
to drain people's guts or whatever.
I forgot what that's called.
It's called a bleeder hole.
Yeah.
It creates one anyway.
He carried that thing around.
He had it like in his bag all the time.
He was a freak, dude.
And he did it.
I look at him now.
He's like, you know, much older.
He's my age and he's running his own mortician,
or his own mortuary, you know.
So, anyway.
He was fascinated by that.
Once you have your mold made, you can cast copies.
We cast
one for this video where we did
it all by hand
by brushing in layers while the mold
is open and then closing it and
rotational casting
the rest of it.
I made, Todd wanted
a bunch of these, so I made
five more using
a different method, and that'll be in the next
video. But for this one, we did it very
manually. Yeah.
Yeah. It goes together and closes.
I see what you're doing.
So, hold on. Let me ask you this.
If that wax caused an issue,
did you have any issues then with the pouring and the state
and then the new molds coming out, not molds, but the new,
the new fit. Yeah, go ahead.
The first casting that we did in this video here,
when it came out, it ripped a little bit
because it was pulling the rest of the,
there was little bits of wax everywhere in the mold,
and it was pulling the rest of that.
The subsequent castings I got from this mold were perfect.
There was no more wax left, and they came out, no problem.
I didn't know you could do it this way, where you just sort of layer it in like this?
Yeah.
And that takes how long did you have to rotate that thing?
Yeah, pot life's five minutes, so it's about five minutes of rotating.
That's not too bad.
Well, I mean, it depends on how many layers.
Yeah, yeah.
It can be kidding.
Yeah, it depends on if you, and I specifically remember doing an arm workout that
morning in the gym.
So I let Todd do it for a little bit, you know.
Sure.
Anyway, there's a machine called a rotocasting machine.
My friend Chad has one.
So to make the rest of these, I use that machine.
It's, you basically put your mold in it, pour your resin in there, cap that big hole
on the top, and then hit go, and it just spins your mold for you.
And it's doing like you are, right?
Like a slow rotation sort of thing.
Yeah. Yeah, but it's a robot.
So anyway, there will be a video on that soon for casting the rest of it.
I love that shirt you're wearing.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
Yeah, that's great.
I just talked to those two, Evan and Caitlin.
Oh, good.
They wanted, they're making a mold, actually, much like mine.
So I just gave them a bunch of good advice.
A bunch of moldy friends.
That's, those, these are the calls I get.
The calls I get are people going, Bill.
I'm making a mold.
Yeah.
Can I pour some goo with you?
That sort of thing.
Actually, I got a call.
also this week from Alice Bagnola
because she wants to cast her friend's
entire body as chocolate
so she needs to make a bowl.
Oh, wow.
A whole human's, you're going to do it in
you're not going to do it as one big mold,
right? Are you going to do it as multiple?
Multiple pieces.
Yeah.
Well, let's see if I'm,
I gave her advice.
That was one of them was to do it in multiple pieces.
We'll see how it goes.
Yeah, we'll see what she does.
I'll get a friend to call in a couple of weeks.
My guess is she's going to want to try and do
one giant thing because that's how Allie rolls.
Yep.
But it may not.
may not work out for her that way.
Maybe see if you can,
maybe see if your buddy there can provide a coffin that you can,
because that will be the perfect thing for,
yeah.
This looks like a science fiction movie about to happen here,
by the way.
It does.
We got the skin of like a rigid urethane plastic for the outside,
and then we filled it with expanding foam just to fill up that cavity.
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
This is how.
Don't stick your head too close to a John Hurt.
You'll think you're hungry later,
but that's not the deal.
All right, this is awesome.
What a cool project,
and it's always fun to do stuff with friends, obviously.
So now he'll use these as part of his teaching.
Like, this will, okay.
They'll have multiple heads.
We're pulling the casting out of the mold there.
That's our first casting, and then I made a bunch more.
I need to get hair advice from that guy.
My gosh.
All right.
Fantastic.
Curling iron.
Start with the curling.
Is that all I need?
Just get a perm.
All right.
And a perm, yeah.
The 80s are back.
Bill, this is awesome.
I know that things are kind of all hands on deck for DragonCon.
I'm excited for you.
Can't wait to hear how things go.
Is there anything else you'd like to mention about that or anything else before?
No, I got a recommendation here.
This is a video from Destin over at Smarter Every Day.
He's done a bunch of videos on American manufacturing,
and he even started his own company to make a really useful grill brush,
grill scrubber brush thing.
And his attempt was to make everything in the United States.
and it's been this crazy journey
and he shares everything about their journey
to try really hard
to get every part of this thing made in the U.S.
And how difficult that is.
He goes into how hard it is
to make this work as a business
and the decisions you have to make.
It's just a lot of people will say things like
oh, we should just make stuff in the U.S. again.
And this video is a great example
to show the challenges behind
trying to do something like that.
Yeah.
Because he's a true patriot that he wants to try doing this.
Yeah.
But also like, but it's a good point.
Like we've got decades and decades now of of subbing it out.
And when you do that, you lose capacity.
And when you try to fire that up again, you don't do it overnight.
You got to, that's a whole rethink, you know.
He also, he also does a great job of showing like, like there's one part that they couldn't get made.
So he said, you know, I'll buy a C and C lathe and we will make them in-house.
and his machine could make them one of them every two minutes and that cycle time is just not fast enough like for manufacturing at scale understanding that cycle time needs to be like 20 seconds yeah and so when in I especially like videos like this because um you know we call them keyboard cosplayers people on the internet who have comments about how you should do stuff but have never done it themselves we'll say things like you should just make that part yourself and he did a great job of pointing out
that like I get what you're saying it just wouldn't work same with 3D print we could 3D print
these knobs but the cycle time is like 45 minutes a knob and if you injection mold them it's like
five seconds yeah that difference makes all the difference well lord knows we could use more smarter
every day channels i really like i've always like this channel yeah so check it out available now
uh we put a link in the chat but everyone else and just go check it out smarter every day also look
at punishprops dot com and the website uh not or not the website the channel on youtube
as well. Sub, if you haven't. Bill,
have a fantastic Dragon Con man.
You bet. Can't wait to talk about it.
We'll get some work lined up for mom.
Yeah, get some shit done with your mom and eat a sandwich.
All right, bye.
Cool. Very cool stuff.
Very good.
We are just about out of here.
I'm going to read some emails, though, first.
And these have been piling up a little, so I'm going to give a few of them a go here.
Whoops, wrong thing.
This is about the jugs of pee.
Andrew Rodin.
He used the website for this.
frogpants.com slash TMS and sent us a text right over the over the site. He says, I know Scott,
uh, you enjoy lemonhead candy. I used to. Can't really have it anymore. My A1 doesn't like it.
Shug got to be, got to be careful to Shug. Says, have you seen that they're going to release
lemonhead gummy candy? Don't be telling me that. Interesting. They got a sugar-free version that
won't make me shit. Probably not. Actually, if they do, that is what they'll use, because the
sugar alcohols taste the closest to sugar, but if you eat too much of it.
It's like a, you know, three, two, three or four pieces.
Stop there.
Yeah.
Like one or two for me.
I remember those.
I remember those sugar-free gummies and all the great, the great Amazon reviews that.
So bad.
I did it with some, the jelly bellies has a version of their stuff like that.
Yeah.
It's two, three bellies, bellies, two, three jelly beans in.
And I was toilet bound for a weekend.
It was awful.
So don't do that, guys.
That's such a small amount.
But Andrew, I'm excited for the Lemonhead people, whoever they are.
And I wish this was high school I would eat Lemonhead Gummies all day if this was an option.
It's no longer an option for me.
Anonymous wrote in and says, I don't know why this came up, but I thought it was interesting.
It says Raised by Wolves, the TV show on HBO, you know the one that canceled too soon.
Yeah.
We found out recently that was a Zazlov decision.
They were ready for season three.
They were geared up.
Oh, that's right.
written it production was ready to go and he goes
we're slashing shit no one likes your weird ass sci-fi we're cutting it or whatever
and that's what happened there eff that guy I needed some closure on that show
I liked it a lot for sure yeah I might yeah I would have watched a second see or watch a third
season yeah absolutely if they could have closed it out in three perfect little three season deal
I'd been I'd been into it he says raised by wolves TV show religion the the religion that the
the people on the planet are in
is based on the real cult of the Mithras
religion.
Ain't never heard of that, but I didn't know they based on that.
That's where they worship the sun and
think the sun is,
I don't know, I thought it came from like,
was it raw as the sun god and the Egyptian stuff?
That's what I thought.
I thought so too.
Apparently Mithra, Persian,
it's got Persian roots,
Mithrasm.
The religion didn't have
like floating robot ladies who can scream
and make people explode, right?
I haven't gotten to that part yet in the very short description that Google has provided for me.
In the Mithris Bible, they speak of a robot lady.
It just screams.
I love them.
Show.
All right.
Anonymous also, another anonymous wrote in says, dog meat is still legal in South Korea.
And that's all they said.
Oh, contrary.
Well, sort of.
Here's what I found out.
I deep dived it.
I confirmed this with my Korean brother who knew this too.
So the answer is yes, you can still eat dog meat or sell a dog meat or get dog meat in Korea, South Korea, but only for a few more months.
South Korea officially passed a law banning the dog meat industry, but it put a mandatory three-year grace period in place to allow farms and restaurants time to close or transition their business.
That transition ends and that window ends February 2027.
So this coming February, at which point the breeding, slaughter, sale, and distribution of dog meat will become fully.
illegal in the country punishable up to three years in prison. Wow, good. So, so it is legal. Protect those
puppy dogs. Yeah. And they spent three years trying to transition everybody. It's as good as illegal at this point.
Yeah. So hurry up and eat your dog tongue or whatever you got to do. Right. Get it down and
eat it down and eat it. Say your goodbyes to Fido and finish it out because February's coming.
It's all over. Don't eat your dog, you guys. Don't do it. I'm going to recommend against it. No, please don't. Yeah.
Anyway, thank you for that message, anonymous person.
And if you guys would like to do your own messages, super easy.
Go to frogpants.com slash TMS.
On the site, you'll find a little embedded thing there that will let you send text and voicemails.
And if you'd rather just send an email, that works too.
That's the e-morning stream at gmail.com.
Okay.
Coming up at noon today.
Yes.
Wait.
Maybe 11.30.
We're trying to figure it out because I think there's a pre-show.
Anyway, today is the gamescom kickoff.
Oh, really? Okay.
So John and I, Bo possibly, although he's working,
we're not sure when we're going to see him,
but Bo and I are going to do a,
or John and I will do a simul stream of gamescom.
They'll do new game announcement, some trailers.
Once again, everyone just hires Jeff Keely now to do their stage stuff.
So it'll be him again that you're used to seeing.
Anyway, we're going to do the whole thing.
For however long it runs, I think it's two hours.
So if you want to watch that live with us,
We'll be doing live commentary on top of that thing happening today on the Frog Pants, Twitch and YouTube channel.
Cool.
So check that out.
That's either 1130 or noon.
I just don't know when that pre-show starts.
Whenever it starts is the goal is we'll get in there and get going.
And this is basically everybody but Sony, right?
Because Sony still does their own thing.
Nintendo doing stuff here at Gamescom?
So there'll be some.
Gamescom's weird because they all kind of participate.
like Sony has a booth there and stuff.
It's the world's largest gaming convention.
It's also open to the public.
It's in Germany.
So it's a weird time of day and all that.
But my understanding is that everybody will have representation there,
but they're not going to be,
it won't be like they have their own stage time.
So Sony, it won't be like, hi, we're Sony and here's what we're doing.
They won't do that.
But there will be Sony games.
It's not like the old E3 kind of thing.
Yeah, they won't have their own separate stuff exactly.
Gotcha.
Okay.
They're all doing directs now and
Yeah.
Kind of makes sense, right?
For sure, yeah.
Anyway, that is today.
We did this last year.
We'll do it again.
We're excited.
So check that out.
There will be a regular core this week too.
So this will not replace that.
But just want to people be aware of it.
That'll be happening today.
Not too long after today's show ends.
That's all I got.
Brian, you got anything else going on?
No new soundography today.
New lost luggage tomorrow.
And we'll talk about that tomorrow.
Can you believe that video I sent you
Amy, that dude looked just like Jorge Garcia.
I had to dig around, make sure, like I ran it through one of those filters that checks for AI.
Just to make sure.
Yeah, because it was uncanny.
Yeah, totally it was.
I mean, write down everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll put it in the Discord so you guys all can see it.
It was something else.
Yeah.
All right.
That's going to do it for the show.
Thanks everybody for listening.
Let's play a song on our way out of the door.
Yeah.
How about this one going out to Jen?
Jen says, hello, snorkel and bubbles.
It's Free Rangers birthday this week.
I don't have a specific song to request.
I'll leave it to the covermaster,
but just wanted to give my brother a birthday shout out.
Thanks, guys.
Signed Jen.
She says,
anytime on or around the day,
which is the 28th,
which is the day you're out.
So we're taking care of it a little bit early this week.
This is not the gen,
is it?
Different gen?
No, no, different gen.
Okay.
My mind was going to be blown
that these two were related somehow.
Oh, I know, right?
Yeah, no, just Free Rangers sister, Jen.
Very nice.
What a nice little sibling thing is what she is.
Gen Rangers.
That sounds like a cartoon in the 80s that we were blessed kids.
But Jen Rangers.
All right, let's get to that.
It is a cover by Working Royals.
This is a band that I've just been loving everything I've heard from from these folks.
They have a brand new album that's called Cover Up.
Here's a cover of the Steve Miller bands, fly like an eagle.
Happy birthday Free Rangers.
here's working royals.
Go to your place. That's tough, but it doesn't mean the whole world's bad.
