The Morning Stream - TMS 3076: Pizza Sans Crust

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

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Sulfur burps. Tooth Action Guild. Oreos and phones with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Hello out there. I'm Mr. Sulu of Star Trek. When I'm out in space, I use the Starship Enterprise to get around. When I'm here in Milwaukee, I ride the bus to save time and money. Your $5 weekly pass is a great buy.

Oh, smells like the sweaty crease on a centaur where the horse becomes the guy. Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream. for October 1st, 2000 and 26. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Nibbitt. Happy Halloween month, Brian. Yes, we're in it now. It's October. And so happy to be in October. Me too. I love October. I do too. I like the weather we're starting to get cooler weather, been nice. Yeah. I like it a lot. It's great. Although you've been a little under it and how you feel in today. A little under the weather. Much better today when people ask for a percentage. I'm telling them 80%. Pretty good.

And that's how I feel. Yesterday was, it really was like, it was everything I could do to just lay on the couch, but I knew I needed to do it. I forced myself. Good. I got up once to fix a daily, or a rock puzzles monthly beta test that my friend Paul is doing. But other than that, I was on the couch. So I finished Falcon and Winter Soldier, then watched, which,

Which one did I watch? It was Thor, Love and Thunder, but there was something I watched before that that also was like talking about, oh, Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. You're really going to get them all in, aren't you? I like I'm going to try and get them all in, although I don't feel like I need to watch Wanda Vision again, even with the prep for the prep, but the Vision show. Yeah, it's like watching eight new movies or whatever, however long. It really is. Yeah, it's a long time. and it was good just to kind of have something on that I'd seen a bunch of times

and I could just fall asleep, no problem. Then when I felt like I was fully awake, I caught up on the season two of dark matter, dark matter. How is dark matter season two? That's such a good show. Yeah, I need to get in there. There's another, something else coming out on Apple TV with Leves Schreiber and, um, that gangster-looking British guy, I always forget his name. They show him dropping his gun in the trailer. Yeah, I don't know who that is.

But whatever's going on there, that looks great. That looks cool. I'd never heard of the book it's based on, but apparently that's a beloved sort of mystery, psychological, serial killer deal thing. So looking forward to that. Yeah, it looks really good. Some nice cozy crime shit coming out in the fall.

I like it. I love it. Bring it on. Bring on more Jimmy Simpson, too. That guy, um, uh, in, in dark matter, he's excellent. In House of Cards, he's excellent. He looks like like somebody drawing Christian Slater by memory.

Oh, interesting. Now I've got to look him up. Oh, my gosh, you're right. Yeah. I do like him. He was the best thing about Westworld for the pot second. He was in there. He was.

That first season? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, really good in there. Yeah, he's just great in general. He is great, yeah. Love him. He looks like he could always play a really good bad guy, but he plays some really good guys.

Yeah, they got a good mix with him, but he could be a real dastardly little hacker bastard if he wanted to do. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, good luck to him. Hey, guys, we got a few things to go over. How was, we didn't follow up on the trivia thing. It's probably where you got your virus for all we know. I don't know. That seems like a pretty short gestation period as to go to trivia Tuesday night and then be very sick or, you know, come in sick Wednesday morning. But who knows? That's a Dr. Tolbert question. Sure. But we won Tuesday night.

Nice. Ended up with 300,000. The Jack Rabbit Slims did not do as well. They finished with about 100,000, no, 200,000 maybe. So that kind of lucked us in for the regional. We are absolutely top the leaderboard with the regional because there are no more games. You can't play anywhere else tonight or the rest of the week. And Snucci Bucci's came up short.

So definitely got regional. Nice. Now, here's where things get interesting. National. The two teams that were beating us, Adams and Spinelli featuring Cherry McCall, your favorite team of all time. I love that name so much. It's so good. And Tony Sopranos pro-gabagoole skater.

Also good. They both did poorly Tuesday night and put us in first place. on Tuesday. Oh, hello. But they have in the Dallas area, they have another Buffalo Wild Wings that they go to that we've seen both teams go to and do better on their second night. Adams and Spinelli got zero points last night for their second attempt. There are no more attempts.

That's it. They're out. They're no more attends. And Tony Sopranos pro-gobagoole skater despite having the potential to take first place appears not to have even played last night. Like, if they would have played and gotten $350,000 or more, they would have done it.

They would have beat us. But to choose not to even play is a weird. It's a surprising thing. Now, I know there's some severe weather stuff going on in Texas. I don't know if it's in the Addison, Dallas area,

but, but who knows if that kept a few people from playing. But right now, as of right now, it looks like we took the national spot. Oh my gosh, dude. That we've won the national. We've won, as they say, all the marbles. Yeah.

The entire, what's another, yeah, there's another great color cool. The whole enchilada. The whole enchilada. There you go. Yes. We're talking about Taco Bell. That's perfect.

But hold on a second. How soon will you know? Well, somebody just have to update and then let you know. I should find out today or tomorrow or, I mean, they say the thing ends on October 3rd. But there's no other teams that are close enough to catch us who could play tonight. But let's, you know, they should finish it out and then let us know over the weekend. I feel like all the big players kind of weanied out at the end. They tanked, yeah, which is a bummer.

We finally actually talked with the Jack Rabbit Slim's team, and they are super nice. I don't know why they didn't, you know, why they didn't clap the first couple nights that we saw them. But we clap for them when they put their scores up. They didn't clap for us. And it's like, whatever, you don't have to. I mean, it's not like you're required to clap for the other team. No, but it's a nice gesture. It's a nice gesture.

But we had a couple extra freebie coupons because we're sick of Buffalo Wild Wings after six weeks of eating nothing. Buffalo Wild Wings every Tuesday night. So we had a couple free appetizer coupons that we gave them and and then shied with them. So, yeah, they were like, well, we hope you guys do take it all because if you get first place in the national, you can't win both the national and regional. So they'll go to second place for the regional, which would be us. Oh, okay.

Unfortunately, Snoochie-Bucci's did better than that. Oh, they did? Last night, so it won't be them either for the regional. But third's all right. Yeah. Yeah. So top three, all being in a little friendly, friendly group is cool. Exactly.

Nothing wrong at all. Nothing wrong with that at all. So as of right now, so Monday I should be able to say with with certainty if we won the national, but it sure freaking looks like we've won the national. That's awesome. And I, and this one only comes with cash. The other tournament that they do, which starts next Tuesday, give us a week. Give us a week.

Give us a couple weeks in between to rest. And that one, unfortunately, is not a Buffalo Wild Wing, so we get a little different variety of food to eat. But that one for the top, for the national team, gets a trip to California. For every member of the team, you get a trip to Los Angeles and an audition for Jeopardy. No way.

Yeah. You can do it if this happens? Hell yes. Sweet. I'll do poorly because I don't do as well with the buzzer. the quick buzzer questions as I do with the questions where you've got some time to think about it, which

you know, Travis would probably also argue that I don't do well at those either. But, but, uh, but, uh, no, I do all right. I really wanted to play individual jeopardy last night.

George ended up going. He took second place. But that's, that's the place where I can prove my own trivia. My solo trivia acumen was at the, um, uh, at the individual Jeopardy. Do they film these auditions if you ended up doing that?

I mean they film them, but they don't release them. And that'd be cool. They should do it like that first week of American Idol where everyone kind of sucks. Right, like where they show? Yeah, no, thanks. You know, if they offered me a copy of my audition tape, I'd bring it home and I'd let us show it on TMS, but that's about it. Jeannie says, I know someone who auditioned. They picked people who were perkier.

It's funny. Usually with Jeopardy, they, they're not supposed to. And, and, you know, you can watch Jeopardy and see that they don't, they don't often pick the people. They're not very perky. Yeah. I would. No, they, they are one of the game shows that is, is from my reports, from what I've heard, specific about how you do with answering the questions. You can be the driest. I mean, we've seen some pretty dry players on Jeopardy. It could be really dry and you'll still make it on the show because they want smart people. They don't necessarily want the clappy Wheel of Fortune kind of people. I feel like Ken Jennings was a little dry in the early going. He was a little dry at the beginning. Yeah, Matt Amodeo is a great example of that. Who's the, oh my God, I just had the Asian guy that, Asian American guy that just played and did really well. he was a little on the drier side too.

But then you've got the gregarious ones like Holeshauer and no, Jamie Ding, thank you, digital hype. Yeah, Jamie Ding was, Jamie Ding was a little on the drier side. Yeah, you know what? I always felt this way about the show in general. It always felt more legit than other

quiz shows slash game shows and things like, you know, family feud is entertaining, but you can tell they're going with the wackiest family. with the loudest people. Like, yeah. What's something you put in your wife every day?

It's like so lame, but at least on Jeopardy, it feels like everybody's there to be, you know, take it seriously. It's a celebration of intelligence. Yeah, we've got, you know, a member of our team has been on Jeopardy, a member of our team has been on who wants to be a millionaire. We got some smart folks on our team. No one ever says no to the question who wants to be a millionaire. know. It's not a thing you say no to. Everybody wants to be one. Even if you, even if you don't

care that much about money, if someone says, what, you want to be one. Yeah, I'm good. Thanks. I'm all right. I don't want to be a millionaire. I want to be a trillionaire. Right. Exactly. Yes. Right. Millionaire is not enough for me. And then help run the U.S. government into the ground. Exactly. Uh, here's, uh, that's awesome. Congratulations. I think, uh, I think that's not only an order, but once you get the confirmation, we should make a big whoop about it. That's when perky. It matters. Everybody. We're going to get real perky about Brian Win and that. We'll be perky.

I found something that I need to, as a consumer, as a fellow society member, member of society, I got questions about this thing that Jim Jensen, local tadpuller brought me one day and left on my doorstep. Okay. He left me a couple of these. Banquet brand mega crustless pizzas. Now, this is the box. What I think crustless pizza, I'm thinking. all right, well, it still has a crust underneath, but no crust around the outside.

Like, that's what I would think. The toppings, the toppings go all the way to the edge. You would think that's what it would be, but instead, here's what it says. All the toppings without the crust. No mess. Enjoy however you want it. No crust. Lots of cheese sauce and toppings, but no crust. Meaty toppings with beef, sausage, and pepperoni. It is literally just the stuff you put on your pizza. cheese, tomato sauce, and pepperoni. Yep. And sausage.

In this case, chunks of tomatoes, but sausage and, and it's kind of got a, it's like super salty like some pizzas can be. Yeah. Anyway, I ate this thinking, well, I'll give us a try. Let's see what goes on here. And it only, it's got 28 grams of protein. That's pretty good. Hook cooked in the microwave, 500 calories total. And really, for that whole thing of cheese?

For that whole thing, 500 is all. Yeah. Surprising, right? It's not too good. That is insane. Okay, I was just, I mean, that box is pretty big. I'm seeing how you're holding it in your hands. Is it super thin?

No, it's, well, it's, you know. One serving per container? Yeah, one serving. Okay. Let's see. We'll make sure that's true. Yeah, serving size, one container, 130, 283 grams. Calories 500.

Let's see. Well, it's got some of that saturated fat in there. Wait, is the saturated good or is that the bad fat? Oh, um. I can never keep track. I don't remember either. cholesterol is pretty high on it. Anyway, here's the deal.

This is the weirdest thing I've eaten in a long time because it just came out like, like I get, you avoid the crust, you avoid a ton of carbs and bready carbs and, you know, simple carbs and things. A lot of calories come from that as well. Right. So I understand that part of it. But the entire time I was like, well, I don't want to eat this like a lasagna. There's no noodles or any kind of filler in there. No, but it looks more like a lasagna than a pizza. It really does.

And it does kind of, kind of feels like that as you're eating it. But then it also tastes like a pizza. So the whole time I was just like, I need some bread. I mean, you're basically eating casso fundito. Yeah. That's basically what this is like a three-layered dip, but it's pizza layers. Right. And so what I did, I kind of cheated because it just didn't seem right.

because I felt, it felt weird. Like I had scraped this off a pizza or something. Exactly. Yeah. Like you're eating the frosting of a cake. Yeah. I don't. And as far as I know,

the reason he found these at some discount pile was because no one's buying these. I don't know. Dollar general is of the, yeah. So I went and got just a plain white bagel and like dipped it in this. There you go. And it was good. Yeah,

I think I would have to as well. But then I eliminated the whole point of not having a crust, right? Because I just did bread anyway. So I'm, I guess what I'm saying is. I don't know why. You made a pizza bagel is what you did. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. More pizza than bagel, but sure. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say these, this was a bad, this is a dumb idea. It was dumb. Okay. Yeah. I'm just going to put judgment on it, a little stamp of judgment.

Bad idea. Bad idea. Yeah. I mean, it was fine. It tasted fine. A little too much sodium, I could tell. Like, you could tell it wasn't like good for me, but, you know. I was going to say, with all the meat and the cheese, it's, any blockage.

Imagine a little bit of blockage. No, nothing. None that I can, none that has so far reared its head. It's all known. So far, I'm all right. And the cheese was, you know, nothing about this cheese was like,

oh, fresh from the French fields. Oh, well, of course, yes. It was really synthetic-y tasting. Yeah, I'm sure. If I would prefer it blocked me than cleared the way, if you know what I mean. Right. Anyway, if you're looking for a review of the mega crustless pizza from, who is it again?

Banquet. I would say, I would say, no. I mean, I think he got these are cheap. I'll do a cauliflower crust pizza before I do one of those. And sometimes those can be done really well. Those are, I really like the crispy ones, yeah. Yeah. Mod does a good job on those.

Yes, they do, yes. I've been to one place where it was wet. Oh, no, you don't want that. No, no. Mod pizza makes a very good cauliflower crust. Yeah. Look, man, you're still at 80%. We understand.

That's right. Exactly. It was the 20%. This is, you said that, and immediately, I thought Bernie Sanders probably woke up just now. He probably heard that. What? I heard the percent signal.

Someone said percent? It's 50 percent, 90 percent? 10 percent? If they say percent, one more time, I'll appear. Yes, TV's Travis. We do have Marco's pizza. Colorado. I like Marcos. I do like Marcos too, yeah. I think you introduced me to Marcos. Yeah. You're the one that said they were good and I went, do I have those? And sure enough,

I like their Italian salad is really good, but their pizza, their barbecue chicken pizzas, fantastic. I had their New York style. It's kind of new. It's okay. Okay. It's a bit of an oily mess. Which you can do sometimes with that style, right? You can get a lot. It's thin crust. A lot of the the oil from the pepperoni or the cheese can kind of get out of control or whatever. There's an art to it, I think, to make pepperoni, or sorry, to make New York-style pizza not be an oily mess. Hidden pizza place in the cosmos like that. Really.

Yes. Oh, God, that place is good. Yeah. I could have gone for that. But it was all right. It was okay. But they're regular, they're regular, like, thin crust, like big old pepperoni. I'll get one of those.

Those are good. And I'll get fat. That's great. so it goes TV TV's Travis says that Marcos has those same things on the menu so pizza bowl basically like a crustless pizza

so they just put all the toppings in a in a tray and you eat without the without the crust for some reason it sounds like a well it was it was kind of a recipe for heartburn yeah I felt kind of crappy after it wasn't great

the sausage and pepperoni yeah and no and no bread to balance it or fresh vegetable or anything else. Right. Yeah. You know, if I could do a fresh bowl of those ingredients, you might have something there.

That'd be all right. Some onions, some green peppers, black olives. Yeah, I do that. One of the two meats, but not both. Yeah. Bring on. The sausage is overkill on this thing. I will say that.

But anyway, if you're looking for a bad time, check it out. Banquet, mega, crustless pizzas, available now. There you go. Brian, we have a TMS Vegas survey. Tell the people about it. We do.

I teased about this a while back. But so we're in talks with the plaza about what they can do for us, what we can get, what they're offering and what they're not offering. And right now, it looks like we can get the showroom. I've talked a little bit about this, but kind of to get an idea of how many people we can get there. Now, here's the cool thing. The showroom allows us to have a much bigger audience than we had at the Sand Dollar. so we can kind of have a bigger ticket pool for people to choose from or people to order from. Right.

And so I'm kind of gauging like, all right, we get our regular TMS Vegas folks so happy, you know, seeing all them answering the survey and I still don't know who they are because it's anonymous survey. But seeing them, their excitement for it, it's like, all right, I know these are the people who come to this all the time. But I want to see if we can get maybe some of the nerds. Nurtacular people. And so one of the things that we're talking about is in addition to Taskville, which is the Taskmaster rip-off that Hammond and I do, we might try and bring in a Frogpants All-Stars game and maybe have like, it would just be one.

It wouldn't be three rounds like we did at Nurtacular, but it would be one round with, A, the All-Stars who can make it. I'm thinking about scaling Taskill back down to six players again, because, 12 was just out of control last time in 2020. Too many. It was too many. And the primary time that was too many was having all those people on stage and trying to come up with a

task that worked well for 12 players at the same time. Yeah. But amazingly, trying to figure out if you guys each had lemon, sour lemon balls in your mouth, I somehow did really well at that. A lot.

It took a lot less time than I thought it was going to. Sure. But so the people who aren't in Taskville, we'd have them be playing the Frog Pants All-Stars. What other events? So those are kind of the questions. Like, if you're an Nertacular fan who's never come to TMS Vegas, is there something that you're saying, oh, well, if you did this at TMS Vegas, I'd for sure come. Right.

And people are saying a lot more like scheduled events. and we we can definitely figure out how to incorporate more of those but I mean right now we've got the the video game competition

at the video game bar we've got the board game the ballroom where we just played board games for hours we've got sometimes an organized karaoke night sometimes this area 15 would be an organized thing

anyway so it would be We have a fair number of schedule, but we'd see if we can figure out to do some more. Sure. I'll look and see what we can do about that. But if you haven't yet filled out the survey, I guess that's where I'm going with this. Tiny.cc. slash TMS Vegas, all lowercase, tiny.cccc slash TMS Vegas. Fill out the survey, even if you've never been to, actually, especially if you've never been to a TMS Vegas before.

If you went to Nertacular and you're on the fence about TMS Vegas, these are all people I want to hear from. So what would it take to get you out to Tim? What's it going to take to put you into this Maserati? That's right. Ooh, a Maserati. Okay. I thought we were still looking at the tempo over there. All right.

All right. That's going to take to put you in this Subaru Outback. At Ford Tempo with a blue sticker on it is what I was looking at. I don't have, not in this economy. Anyway, give them the URL so they know where to go for this. Yep. Tiny. C.

slash TMS Vegas. Nice. It's super simple, everybody. Yeah. I'll get that up on the. on the website today as well. Thank you. Yes. We will link it wherever you go.

All right. We got some news to cover before my sister arrives. You know her, you love her? It's windy. Know her, lover. She's pretty great. She's pretty dumb smart. Before that, though, we have this.

It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Brought you by Coverville. Yeah, yesterday it would have been the day that I would have spent the day prepping the show, so no Coverville today. But, yeah, let's just say back tomorrow, I'm sorry, back next week with another Coverville. I'm not going to try and jam something in tomorrow, but I do.

I will have a guess the connection after TMS tomorrow. Oh, very nice. Yeah. Yeah, and don't worry today, even without the noon, usually you do it. No, I'm sorry, usually you do it around 11. Yeah. Whatever it is, usually right after the show.

Right about 10.30, yeah. And don't worry. We still have core at noon today. You still have core. Good. Yeah. So we'll have plenty of content today. Cool, cool.

Do not fret, everyone. Let's get to this new story here. Mighty Mike plays. This is a dude on YouTube. His name is Mighty Mike plays. Yeah. He's facing a massive backlash after turning $118,000

into $100 AI generated merch. Oh, geez. There's the whole story here, but here's how it works. So he's facing another wave of backlash. A dude's been all in the news. And look, we're not Dextero. We don't care about this stream. reverse. It's not important here on the show. But just look at it from the perspective,

hey, what if this was a Florida guy doing something dumb? It's kind of like that. His official store began selling AI-assisted t-shirts up to $97 a shot, including a $67 design built around the alleged $118,000 advertising bill that put the channel under scrutiny. The channel is run by 9-year-old Mike, whose father Dave previously claimed that his son accidentally spent $118K on YouTube ads for Minecraft and Roblox videos using a company credit card. Dextero previously reported the original claim. In a later update, Dave said he lost his job and was expected to repay the full amount within 30 days. He also said the family was considering selling their home and would not

set up a GoFundMe. That update was covered also by them. So anyway. Okay. So as a nine-year-old kid uses his dad's company card to spend $118,000 on advertising. Yeah, basically. money to get Roblox and Minecraft videos more traction on YouTube you can pay to advertise your ads. Holy hell okay yeah I don't first okay first of all

families where the kid is the big YouTube channel yeah they freak me the F out yeah for lots of reasons but number one it's just weird to me that you feel like you've got no control over this and that this kid can just do this and you're going to blame the kid and then you're going to do a bunch of

skeevy shit to pay for it like it's just I find it skeeby and strange when like it's not that different than you're raising your kid to be a Hollywood actor like like Britney Spears parents or whoever yeah yeah I find all that stuff just really skeevy and I have a problem with it venus and surreal Williams uh dad yeah you know that whole like nope we're we're putting all of our we're banking all of our uh assets on you guys you're going to be the breadwinners here yeah and they and they and And Luke Sight Walker says, did the dad own the company? Of course he did.

The nine-year-old doesn't own it. And there's no nine-year-old CEO of his little streaming empire. Yeah, but the company, the company card that he had was his dad's company card from his job. And he got fired. He got fired for the kid using the $118,000 on the company. I thought it would be like Van using a frog pants like fed card or something. This is apparently, according to like he got fired, but he's still expected. to pay the full amount within 30 days.

Okay, if the kid had the company, his dad's company card. Yeah, yeah. That shouldn't have ever been anywhere near anybody. No, absolutely not. Yeah. Holy shit. I think this guy deserves all the backlash he's getting. He does.

And it's like, you know, saying, all right, we're going to start selling T-shirts for a hundred bucks a piece that are generated by AI. These shirts are so, these shirts are horrible. They look like shit. Yeah, let me bring these up. These look terrible. I already, I mean, I hate that. That look you immediately get.

Yes. I hate it. You see it and you go, oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. I hate it. I just hate it. Because it's the laziest response. It's not even that I'm, I'm not, this isn't even a complaint about AI right now.

This is a complaint about doing the laziest possible path. Exactly. To making right with your fan base. Freaking F that. And there's a post. What is this on Reddit? Where the dad is defending his use of AI for the t-shirts. He says, yes.

Or no, he says, AI is here to stay. Adapt or get left behind. Yes, we used AI to help design the t-shirt graphics. And they look effing amazing. No, they don't. You can tell me that all you want. Right. Like even this landing page here,

this is the little landing page for the YouTube channel. I hate this look. I hate it because it's immediately recognizable as something you did. effing do. Exactly. It just strikes me as lazy and you think it's cool, bro. Yeah. Yeah, man.

It looks effing amazed. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. It looks like the inside of a pig's anus. Go back to the drawing board. And six, seven. Oh my gosh. It makes me want to seriously reach through YouTube and take that kid into protective custody.

It really does. Yeah. I hate it. Yeah. Anyway, there's that story. That's a fun one. That's fantastic. Let's get Wendy in here because it's time for us to learn a thing or two about ourselves and about each other.

And we do it by playing this. No, this. Wait, where to go? I've lost it. Hold on. There it is. Something wrong, Batman. Has anybody seen Wendy?

Well, we might have. She's right here on the phone. Hello, Wendy. What are you doing? Hi. What are you doing? We're just sitting here thinking, hey, we sure could use a sensible mind on the show today to help us. with sensible problems in the world or something like that.

That's kind of what we're thinking. I feel like you could use that help as well. You know, we really could. Hey, I had a question for you. Oh, shoot. Well, now I've lost it. Shoot, it was going to be a question about Minnesota. And I said to myself, ask Carter or ask Wendy this question,

you should write it down. And my brain said, no, you're fine. You got other things to do this morning. Don't worry about it. Now I've forgotten it. It was a perfect Minnesota question. Oh. Damn it.

Did it have the word Oh, no, no, that's what it was. It was football. I wanted to know how you felt about your Vikings so far. Oh, can I tell you, when you move to a place where all of your teams, the women's team here have notoriously been awesome in win championships, but the link's just won the other day or lost the other day.

And they were ranked first, dude. Oh, wow. They lost in the first row. Oh, wow. And we're like, oh, no, it's infected the women's teams now. Anyway, so you just, you move here and they're like, welcome. They hand you a jersey and they're like, you will be happy a lot, but you will always end up sad. Sure.

I mean, if you look at the Vikings record throughout, since the North conference was created, they are the winningest team by far hands down. And they never win in the end. What do you think that's about? Is that just like a, I don't know, strong first impression, but longer you live with them, You'd like, I don't know about these guys. I mean, I don't know. I love them.

I think Brian Flores is the defensive coordinator. Just like Google him. That dude is so cool. And they are incredible. And it's just, it's a very fun team to follow for sure. And there's always like plenty of drama. Like, you know, what's his name? The quarterback we paid a million, billion dollars for, J.J. McCarthy.

Yeah. You know, only we would get a quarterback who has an alter ego call, he calls nine. Wow. And now we've gotten rid of him, so I don't know what the next drama's going to be. Can't wait. And we also, every time we trade our quarterbacks away, they go win Super Bowl. So good luck to you. I was going to say, yeah, you lose one.

Someone else gains it. And then suddenly they're amazing and take them all the way to the ring. You play Green Bay on, oh, no, you already did. Hold on. What's the next game? You did. Miami, this Sunday. Yeah.

You're going to, A, it's coming home for Thanksgiving weekend. And we're going to get, we have tickets to the falcons. because they're the only affordable game to go to. Nobody cares about the falcons. Anyway, so it'll be fun. You know, we'll be in the noseblutes. No offense to our Atlanta listeners. I know there's a few fans out there.

I mean, Adam's from Atlanta. He's going to be torn. Yeah. But not. But not really. Well, it's great to have you back, of course. My sister Wendy is a actual mental health expert. She comes on the show and slums it with you guys once a week because she's nice that way.

Yeah, I'm not just. a Vikings fan. No. It's part of her court, court mandated restitution. That's right. It's my pro bono work I do. She's only got only three years left on her probation. So use it while we can. All right. Well, let's get to today's question. It is a short one. Yeah. And it's interesting. And you, when you wrote, I wasn't sure what your response was going to be. You wrote back kind of enthusiastically. And I went, oh, I kind of want to hear about this. My doctor has me on a form of this because of my stupid sugar levels, but I know this is like the hot thing right now. So we'll talk about it. Here's the question from an anonymous listener. They wished to be.

So that's what we're calling them. Dear Scott, an email for Wendy's segment. Why don't you discuss the psychological effects of GLP1s? I have recently started on the Wagovi pill. It has reduced my appetite, but it has also, sorry, but I am also feeling less anxiety, etc. It says anonymous. So we didn't get a lot of details or backstory or why are they anxious in the first place or any of those things. But is there a connection between GLP1s and that little bit of breakthrough in biomedicine and our moods and things like that? And this is, you know, I've mentioned this before on the show too, but this is the one I take. I'm on the Wigovi pill as well.

Oh, nice. Do you notice your anxieties now? I never really noticed anxiety to begin with. but, you're like, I now have anxiety. Brian's not, Brian's not an anxious guy.

I get extra anxiety now. He's so anxious right this second. You wouldn't even believe it. I can tell you, I can tell you that for me, it's definitely helped me that way. I, I have a lot of natural anxiety,

but this, so when it was prescribed to me, I have, it's a needle for me every week. And it was because I had jumped the, or I was really close. to the diabetes line for who knows why. Apparently dad had this and no one knew about it in our family.

Anyway. So I was like, oh, crap. So they put me on this and it's helping with that. But also, I just feel better overall. Like I have more energy. I definitely lost weight, but not, you know, not extreme amounts of weight. And it's definitely working for what it was originally intended for,

which was to help with type 1 and type 2, type 2 diabetics. but also I just feel better but I don't know if that's like just because I'm doing something proactive with my health and so therefore I just feel better in general like I didn't want to just chalk it up to the medicine

because who knows if there's any connection there. You're talking like a scientist now. Weird. I have good critical thinking skills everybody. Okay so which one is yours? So Brian your Wagoe, what is yours? Mine is the it's a compound pharmacy version of whatever

the Moderna. one, or not baderna. Mondurna. Not Monjara. Not Osambic. Monjaro, that's it. Manjaro. Manjaro. Okay, so those are two different things, interestingly.

One's, you know, a semi-glutide. The other one is also a semi-glutti, but it has another thing it's acting on, which is interesting. So, yes, there's a couple different ones. People are all doing them left and right. And let's talk about it. Because I think it feels like AI and GLP ones all came out. at the same time.

They really do, don't they? And it's like, holy crap, guys, we gotta slow this down. Right. Give us one technological breakthrough at a time.

Exactly. Exactly. And the thing about JLP ones versus every other weight loss drug we've ever, like as a large collective seen or known about, has usually turned into, like they were given mom's speed in the 90s and they were losing weight. And then everyone's like,

oh, no, that's bad or whatever. It caused problems. left and right. There's definitely a history of us feeling like we're going to get duped by something or there's this cheating way of doing it and, you know, we could go into all the how, how we sort of demonize anyone getting help and then sort of praise anyone who's doing all willpower, right? But what's so fascinating about the GOP one stuff is that we're getting obviously more and more data. And these drugs have been around, by the way, for 20 years. This isn't new. It's just that it's

new for everyone who wants to pay for it to get it. There's probably other reasons. I don't know why it took so long for that to be happening, but they're pretty well documented. This isn't like just out of nowhere and it's been used for, you know, treating diabetes for a long time. And why is it's a natural hormone we all make after we eat? And when there's plenty of it, then our insulin works well. And when your insulin is not working well, this has been other, other names. names and forms, but it's been helping people for a long time. So now it's just for whoever has the money to buy and or now, you know, you have a lot more just prescriptions from doctors. Yeah, it's being prescribed as, as a primarily the marketing feels like it's, um, uh, weight loss.

Right. Right. And it's not always guaranteed that there's weight loss too. And that's the thing that is, is interesting. But you're describing like some benefits. So Brian, I assume you're feeling some benefits too, right? Yeah, slow, slow weight loss, which is okay. Which is best. Yeah, it's actually good. I don't want the, yeah, exactly, don't want the rapid. I'm not noticing, you know, like higher energy or anything like that. I know it's, you know, it's good for, there's some liver stuff, there's some kidney stuff that's kind of tangential to the, to the regular benefits. But. Because what we're looking at is, And this is how it applies to mental health specifically. So just really quick, I have a number of clients who are on this.

And the thing that I have heard pretty much every time is that how does it affect their mental health? Right. Obviously, that's my job. And that's what we're going to talk about. So anxiety going down for most of the clients with anxiety. And then those with depression actually feeling like a lot better. And so these are, let's be clear, none of these. drugs have been studied for these mental health effects. They are not prescribed for them specifically,

but what we think is happening, and there's some pretty good research backing it up, just the anti-inflammatory effect that can happen. So fat is its own, it's like its own ecosystem. It produces all sorts of stuff, including it's like its own source of estrogen. It's like it's its own metabolic structure in there. And when we have too much of it, it's going to mess with other metabolic structures. This is why we have metabolic disease when we're too heavy, right? But there's too much fat in our system. And remember, people can be skinny and fat.

So don't, this is not about size. This is about muscle to fat ratio, right? And so what happens is with all of that sort of going on, these drugs, when people are losing fat, they're also unfortunately losing muscle, which I'll ask you guys about in a second. But losing of that fat means reduction in sort of the way it's been acting. Fat has been acting on their body and strain on joints. And it has all the benefits of not carrying around so much weight,

but also metabolically, different things are happening, which anti-inflammatory and a couple other things. So you take that and you say, well, how does that affect things in the body? And it does, right? It reduced people just, you just feel better, right? Stress, you can handle stress, better. Your neurotransmitter system works a little bit better.

As your metabolic health improves, right? You sleep a little better. So much of how you feel sometimes. I feel like it's all, not all, but a lot of it comes from your gut biome and your, and your, just your guts in general have such an impact on every other system that it's, to me, it's like if that gets under control better, well, you're going to feel that in other places because those other places are directly pissed off when your guts are bad, you know? Yeah, absolutely. And so much of our serotonin is actually, like, you can measure, you've got serotonin in your gut, which is the happy chemical, right? Like we, when we say trust your gut, we're partially talking about your whole system of mental well-being is tied to that. So you're absolutely right. And there's a great article if anyone needs to look up. The hard science of this, it's in nature. It was a February 2025 talking about the effects of these peps. peptides on our cognitive mental health. And so you can look it up there.

But basically what we're thinking is happening, why it's having, I'm going to talk about anxiety or antidepressant effect real fast because it's stronger than the anxiety one. We think the anxiety one is maybe more just your neural pathways that are your reward system. It just like kind of calms that down. Because think about prior to taking these. It's interesting. I didn't know you both did it, so I can ask you directly. But, you know, food is just not about hunger most of the time, right? And our brains learn that. We have a cue or we have some kind of stress or we're tired or something. And that cue hits. And then we anticipate, get a reward. We eat the thing. It reinforces that behavior. And now we are, we have trained to at any moment of the day, go to grab something to eat in order to hit our reward processing. Right. Right. So really. really common and we're all trained and we have so much food and so much really high fat delicious stuff to eat high sugar that we're just trained to constantly reinforce this behavior so

we're like the dogs with the the bell ringing we're going to just you know we're trained so what we think is happening is that the glp one is signaling like turning down the reward value of the food so it's just not as appealing have you guys notice that where you're like, take it or leave it. There have been times, though, so I'll admit to this. There have been times where it's kind of got a whole other function in my life because there'll be times where there's something going on or it's just stressful or whatever. This year's had many moments like that.

It's been a rough year in general. And when something gets gnarly, particularly heavy, I will find myself still kind of going, if I just kill a pizza, even if my appetite's not agreeing with me. And then I'll do something dumb like that. And then that night, stress eating. I will pay for it that night. Because the GLP1 does not like the sudden impact.

No. And your stomach is, you have slow gastriced emptying, which means you're putting a ton of food on top of old food. Like you're full already. Yeah. Yeah. You start getting them sulfur burps and you're like,

I think I'm going to die tonight. This is the dumbest mistake I ever made. So it has a double-edged effect. But take that as you're reinforcing babies. Exactly. Now we have the, you know, we are all just dogs, you guys. Sorry, I'm so sad sometimes. I'm like, bags of meat with hormones as personalities.

And we are literally just trainable like animals in the sense that you cue it. You give the reward. The reward is reinforcing of the behavior. You do the behavior again and again and again. And we're all in the same boat here with food, right? And we all have GLP-1s. That's part of the human situation, right? But they're not strong enough, especially as you age, and there's more inflammation in your world and life.

And you have endless access to food. Right. You know, it's gotten really tricky. So the hard thing, and this is kind of what I want to bring up because I think, you know, I did real steps for a long time. And we talk about, you know, health at any size and, you know, really tuning. into your body and what your body needs. And those are still really important skills, right? And so I know some people have been like, well, I'm just going to secretly give myself a shot over here and just act like I'm, you know, because I can't, I don't feel good, right? Rather than maybe realizing,

like, there is a medical situation here. It's not a willpower thing. It's never been a willpower thing. Now, can you use some willpower and not, you know, strengthen this cycle of reinforcement, I guess, but then you have to live on your own in the mountains? I don't know. Like, it's a really hard world to live in where you are not constantly being rewarded for behavior that is actually not going to make you well. And we could take this away from food and put this to literally anything else. I don't know. Have you guys heard of the gambling apps? How do you think that's going?

Yeah. No, those things scare the shit out of me. because they're so, the key, Kelishi or what is it? Calci. And then the other one, I forgot the other one.

Something picks or whatever it is. Those things freak me out because they're basically legalized gambling where we, where in many places it was not legal. And they've gotten through loopholes and those loopholes are currently, as currently constituted, there's no regulation around it.

And they're allowed to sort of get, get crazy. And I think, yeah, you're telling me that this is a, fun thing. Oh, I get in there and I get to guess whether Green Bay wins this weekend. Sweet. That's fun because everyone likes a pickam league. Everybody likes a little, you know, screwball office poll for the next week's games or whatever. But this is a different thing. And you can, and there's money and there's, well, potential for abuse by those with, you know, a terrible addiction to gambling. So I don't know why we're doing that one to ourselves. It seems like a bad move. Right. It's like introducing something. We are

know is bad for us and giving it to children is literally what we're doing. Yeah, it'd be like rolling back, rolling back everything with cigarette smoking that we know. Yeah. It reminds me of that. It truly is. Yeah. I don't know why we do that. And so it has the same underlying thing, right?

Which is this training of behavioral responses. And so we can list a bunch of things. And so what's kind of interesting is there look, there's some preliminary research on GLP ones with things. like alcohol use, nicotine, opioids, binge eating, those kinds of things. Because it's not as simple as, oh, it reduces addiction,

just like whole hog, but what it really does do is alter the reward valuations and that craving and the reinforcement and stuff. Now, that said, and I'll go back to the depression in a second, but that said,

I have clients who are feeling pretty blank and numb. Have either of you experienced that where you just kind of flat? Do you have any of that emotional response? Since starting these? Not really.

Yeah, I've had like a couple like low energy afternoons where it's just like, oh man, what, you know, should I just go lie down? What do I need to do? I completely lost, yeah. If anything, I've had, it's a combination of things as I reread that four of art book. So I'm trying to keep that in mind

because that thing really pinched my cheeks. I couldn't think of a better way of saying it. but some combination of that and these, if anything, I've just kind of had, I'm taking on way too much stuff right now. And not, it's not, yeah,

it's not like negative per se, because it's creatively fulfilling and I'm having a great time with it, but I don't, I don't know, I don't know if that plays a role or not. I have no idea. Because it could just be timing

and, you know, just how I'm feeling right now. I don't know. So everything is with a grand assault because the research is still being done. done, but we have quite a bit of evidence on how it's, you know, these drugs are affecting bodies, right? We do know when a lot of people do this, they lose weight so quickly and they lose so much muscle, right? That's where you get the ozempic face, like you lose all the fat in your face.

And the hard part is that with all that muscle loss, what you're doing is really messing with your metabolism, because you need muscle to actually have your metabolism run. So really, if you're doing it right, you are lifting weights. You are eating a ton of protein and you're trying to maintain muscle mass. And especially for women who get older and run the risk of bone health issues, you've got to be careful with the muscle balance there. So slower the better, Brian, very good. Keep it slow.

I lift some weights. But we have a lot of records of those things. but what we don't quite know is how it affects this mental health stuff, which is, of course, the area. But we're seeing some effects on cognition. Like, people are feeling like both a little bit better and more energy like you're describing Scott and like, I can do stuff. And the less anxiety we have, we tend to be able to do more, right?

And then others might find a flattening of their affect. They're just kind of a little, you know, it's like all the fun of eating is gone now. It's like all the fun kind of went out of a lot of things. And so that, yeah, everyone's going to be a little different. It might be a dosing issue, whatever, obviously talk to your doctors about all these different things. But the thing with depression that's kind of interesting is that people are just feeling like the inflammation we're suspecting is going down, which is often implicated in depression and some other of our brain stuff. Some animal research has showed that there's some more neuroplasticity, but you have? LP1 signaling, which is kind of cool. And then depression is, you know, it's low serotonin,

right? But here we have like changes in remor, motivation, pleasure. And sometimes those things are being affected for good in this way. So the science is still out, but, you know, it's rare that I come across people who have gotten violently ill on it and they can't continue it. Yeah. They just cannot, yeah, they can't. They have to scale back to a lower dosage or have to get off it altogether, yeah. I know some people can't tolerate it. Yeah, there's some, the tolerance is so low for a couple of people I know that they, the lowest dose, it just sends them into a spin. I can't do it. Yes. And I have a friend who did it just, I think it was a kid's wedding and she was like, I'm going to lose somebody. Which is the wrong thing to do, guys, by the way. And it made her so ill,

she lost like 15 pounds in one week. Oh, that's too fast. Bad, bad, never stopped. That's not the right kind of, yeah. I was like, oh, what did you buy? Was that from a corner? of a, I don't know. Anyway, so everyone's really different on this and some of it is working really well for people and someone is not. I think the hard thing that it does is, well, sorry, the best thing it does for people is quiet's the food noise, right? Maybe you've both experienced this where you just don't think about food that much. Yeah, definitely less. If anything, my psychological fight with has been, I'm feeling the actual tug less to like, let's just a couple Oreos or just go get it.

Yeah, to snack. Yeah. Whatever. I'm feeling the less of a tug there, but there's also this weird voice in my head going, yeah, but you like that. Why aren't you doing that? What are you doing?

Like, it's like the urge isn't there, but there's like another dude in there. It's almost like the, hey, you're taking the GLP1. You can have another Oreo. Go for it. You're taking a GLP1. You'll be fine.

There is some of that too, right? Interesting. Yeah. I mean, really what it kind of, I would say there's very few people who don't have dysregulated reward and motivation in life, right? Because of access to so many things that bring pleasure so quickly, like our phones or like, you know, Oreos or whatever, right? But the idea with this and with anybody, right? So there are plenty of people who are not going to do GLP ones that maybe struggle with these different things. and there's other ways and means to do it.

This is like feels like a shortcut, right? Which is I think humans don't love a shortcut. They love a shortcut from themselves, but not for anyone else. No, right. And so there's a lot of a judgment. At least there was initially, I don't know. The problem, again, is that we go from like, hey, health at any size. Now we're back to cocaine skinny.

And, you know, like, it's just, can we stop it? And everyone just learned. It is the same. We really are on the same. roller coasters we're always on socially, right? Like, you see these, you know, everyone's like, what's going on with these 22-year-old upcoming Hollywood starlets being so rail-thin suddenly?

I'm like, are you really asking that? Like, there's a drug on the market now that is approved for people to use to lose weight. And it doesn't matter if you're already a skinny Ariana Grande. You can get skinnier if you just take this shot once a week or whatever. Of course, that's why they're doing it. Right. We always do this. It's every time. Fen, Fin, remember that? That's the one you were talking about in the eight of the 90s. And then wasn't it phalidomide where all the kids were born with one arm? Wasn't that supposed to be?

Yeah, that was a thing. Oh, yeah. Can't remember what it was for though. I don't remember either. Some side of it know. There's no way to know. There's no way to know. There's no way to look it up. We don't have the internet. Speaking of that dynamic that we can look stuff up, one of the some research I was looking at recently with this happiness class. It's so sad to me. Because our U-C curve of happiness, right? You're happiest when you're younger, and it dips into this U-shape, and at the bottom is age 47, by the way. It turns around at 47 and you start coming up the other side, and you're happier later in life that you-shaped curve. For the first time in two or three, four generations,

we've been measuring these scores. The youngest generation is not happy. They're not seeing this as the happiest time. And I am telling you, because no one should look in the mirror or look at a picture of themselves more than once a quarter. But we are doing it all day. Four times a year. You know what I mean? That's the only time I need to look at myself.

I thought you're going to bring up the New York Times published a thing about a study where kids are losing the ability to figure things out because they can just go to chat GPT or Google and just find. out what they need to know instead of having to do any research or any I mean it's the thing here's the here's the hope I have because it's the thing they've been saying since since since writing since since encyclopedias I remember growing up very young and I remember adults arguing about whether encyclopedias made our kids lazy really yeah and I think because again that's their version of this right I mean you still have to look things up in an encyclopedia but I guess it's all there as opposed to well I had to go to this book and then this book to find this other thing well and it's relative because to them, that seemed like a massive leap forward in taking out the resistance to learning.

And for us, AI, and it truly is, but to us, it's the same relative change. It's this massive leap in take all the work away from doing anything. And I have this optimistic, tiny little optimistic voice in my head that says, he's not the other voice. That is the guy hangs out of the back and says eat Oreos. But this guy in the front says, and I really think this is true, I think we're are just so millions of years battle worn

to ultimately want to know more, learn more, and not have it just handed to us, that this, I'm not saying this is a fad. I'm just saying, it may have a more direct effect on the current generation who went like, I'm doing my homework too.

This will do it for me. And they're in the middle of it. And so yeah, of course they did it. And we're going to maybe have a weird statistical anomaly. But I think in the long run, the human desire to understand more outweighs the easy ways we do it. Can I just feel okay about it? Yeah, do it.

Let me quote Socrates. Let's go all the way back. If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls. They will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that, which is written. Calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks. What you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder. He's talking about writing. Yeah, talking about books.

and not even publishing books they're going to ruin kids so scott i think you're absolutely right and we can't imagine what the future is where what's the next level they have to do if they don't have to like read as much like is there another yeah it's kind of interesting but i is this not what's happened i mean let me let me let me melt down for everyone ready yep go like i feel like gop1s AI, kids not reading, whatever. All of that at once, all the happening at this moment feels like in a history book one day, this will be an era where they were like, hmm, the industrial revolution was interesting.

You know, like, and we will skip, they will skip over it and not even think we're that interesting. But we're living in it. And I don't know what they're going to call it. They're going to call it a revolution. But everyone always thinks their time and their surroundings are, you know, the blow up of it all, right? I think that's, that's pretty human of us. It's hard to, you know, pan out, but I think you might be right. All I know, too, is that I know a ton of kids who are like, I'll use AI for this very specific thing, but I don't like it. Yeah. They're seeing,

I mean, it's different for them. Yeah, they're also, you know, go ahead. There was a counterpoint in the New York Times article, too, about the study looking at some of the kids who are using AI and they're understanding the concepts of something a lot better because AI is boiling it down for them. And then they go and write the essay without having AI write it for them. They're using AI to do the research and basically say, here are all the important points you need to know and understand. And they're comprehending things better because of AI. So that is the positive. That is the good way to look at it.

And also, you know, Socrates is funny because he's talking about a time when there wasn't, you don't go to libraries. weren't mass publishing. He was talking about the one scroll in a library nobody could go to. Exactly. And also his job. His job was to pontificate and we were to listen and to learn. So I have people doing that for me. Exactly. Yeah. I also think there's some overarching thing we could talk about on another day, but just the virtue signaling that happens with pretending you don't use AI or that you do or you know what I mean, or even GLP-1s. I mean, I have some good friends. They've lost a ton of weight in the last year. And it's like, we all know. Yeah. But they want it. Just trying hard. And I'm like, man, I wonder what would happen if we could

all stop being in middle school a little bit, right? That would be great. It'd be wild. Totally. But also, you know, it's frustrating when people can't get medicines they basically need and we're, you know, we're just making skinnier people skinny is skinnier. It is also very frustrating, right yeah so there's my crash out for the i like no it's totally true we all know you're not fooling anybody yeah like just this all just be a little straight with each other yeah let's just get healthy and feel good and whatever way you can do that let's support each other can we all just go on that's a great idea um listen uh i hope this helps this person i mean basically what we boiled this down to is while there aren't a ton of studies specific to mental health benefits and or detractions

the stuff we know already seems to support the idea that people are generally feeling better on this. It may have something to do with all the stuff you said, but more needs to be studied. And it will. And eventually, it may be prescribed along with something else differently. I mean, you know what we would love is to stop having to give psychotropic medication that had side effects people don't like, right? It would be awesome to give them something that made them nauseous a little bit for a minute. And then they felt great. I don't know. Right. Like there would be some, you know, things will come out as time goes on.

But I think this person, I'm glad you brought it back to them because they are experiencing a side benefit. I have one client who just, she's lost a good amount of weight, feels really good, is maintaining. And it's the way it helps her with her anxiety, there's, she needs to kind of take this for a long time until her life settles down. It's been a real benefit. Someone else, not at all. Right. So if you're lucky enough to have a little benefit there, great. Enjoy it.

And when the research comes out, we'll talk about it. Yeah. For some reason, the stuff, whatever brand I'm on again, I already forgot. What was it? Bonjaro. Boniorno. Boniorno. Boniorno.

The pizza company. Is that delivery or is it? And don't get me started. You still want to hear me crush out. Don't get me started. I will not vaccinate kids, but I will stick needles in my face all day and then take these drugs. Before we knew some of the benefits, makes me want to vomit.

Oh, I hate that. Yeah. No, that kind of hypocrisy can go take a, take a dump. I know. Scott doesn't even the name of the drug. He's sticking in the dog. Yeah, I don't even know. I'm just trusting science.

I was told by professionals this would work. But anyway, remember last time he did that? It doesn't always work out. No, it doesn't always work out. Sometimes they give you the wrong f-and pill and it messes you up forever. But it's all, look, we're all just rolling the dice. All right, here on this planet. And we hope we all come up to double sixes.

Wendy, what's? us. Anything going on? I know you're in the middle of the stuff over there, but anything you want to mention? Yeah, I'll tell you when new things are coming up. But yeah, go to Know Better You.com and just give me your email. Then you'll know. I'll email you some ideas.

Yeah. What's coming up? This is a place to share your information that is actually a good thing. Oh, yeah. I barely use it. She's bad at using it for what you want. I have been sold it to hardly anybody. I've only written to you once or twice a year.

That's right. sold it to no one. How does anyone even sell it? Do they come to you and say, give me your email this? I don't even get that. Well, they do it by the billions of the hundreds of thousands. Like you go in there and say, you know, we had an end user agreement that meant we could sell their data. So are you interested in this demographics data and it's 400 million names or whatever? Is that why I get an email now called Interesting Facts? Yeah, sometimes. I did not sign up for interesting facts, even though they're fun.

That's 100% what that is. And it's not as simple as one guy's going, hey, I got some of these. You want to buy them? It's not like that. There's like a whole industry around it. And big companies to little companies, data is gold. It's the new. It's the new commerce.

Which is why we all feel like garbage as we're being. Okay. We should talk about the unshittification of everything. All right, Wendy. May your week be unshittified and we'll talk to you next time. Bye now. I had a dream about her and her son yesterday. Her son reminds me, Abraham, Abe.

Yeah. He reminds me of that Jacob Allorty dude. Oh, yeah. And every time I have a dream about that kid, he's like that big tall and he's got a gun. Kind of the dog stars vibe. Okay. Running around.

Oh, I heard bad news about that today. They pulled it from like 3,000 theaters today. It was only in there for like 25 days. That thing tanked. It did terrible. Not critically. I think it was kind of middling critically. It was middling critically.

I really liked it. And I was really, you know, it was a much lighter, slower kind of action film. Did not need to be blockbuster thrill a minute, which I think is what people were hoping for. That new digger thing getting real over it is. I thought you're saying they pulled it because of some content or something. No, no, no. It was because it just wasn't performing. They had some deal to keep it in longer.

And they pulled it for 3,000 years. Oh, really? Yeah. That new, that digger thing with Tom Cruise has debuted at 52%. Yeah. And the verity thing that I was looking at that looked kind of interesting with and Hathaway and Dakota Johnson. 44. I know.

Yeah. Oof. Yeah. So. Well, that's got Josh Hartnett. He's a handsome man. He is a handsome fella. So we're seeing something else tonight.

That's not one of those. All right. There you go. If I'm feeling up to it, then we're going to see it anyway. What else is out? Is there anything cool out that you want to see right now? Oh, you haven't... Find out tomorrow. You haven't seen...

No, you saw... You saw Resident Evil. Yeah. Yeah, really enjoyed it. Yeah, I like that a lot. Mm-hmm. Kind of want to see it again. Maybe not in theaters.

Quick email from our pal Jeff Seyer, who wrote in... Whoops, wrong thing. This is about the jugs of pee? He says this. This is Lake Thoughts from him. He says, I live in Grafton, Ontario. It's the north shore of Lake Ontario. I don't know if you guys have heard about this,

but a couple of weeks ago, the whole south shore of Lake Ontario, well, it vanished. So weird. Just wanted you guys to know everything is fine. We talked about how weird it was for a day or two, but the lake seems fine, and oddly,

it doesn't seem to have any effect on us at all. I hope all these folks in the south of our shores are doing okay. Jeff Sire. Yeah, man, we're not, F that Lake America bullshit. Didn't have much of an effect on us either. talked about for a couple days and we're done talking about that. Yeah, also props to MapQuest for refusing to change it.

Yeah, yeah. Both Apple and Google changed it. And they both have these policies of our data is pulled directly from the National Federal something database of names, this and that. We don't actually make the decision. It's just what comes out of the data. Well, maybe grow a spine, you pussies. That's right. Exactly.

Jeff Smith wrote in and says this. different Jeff. Hearing you bring up... Not the bone, Jeff Smith. Not the bone, Jeff Smith, and not the other Jeff Smith that we had today. Another Jeff representing, he says, hearing you bring up the rabbit test last week, maybe we remember a joke I heard back in the 80s.

It's really not relevant anymore, but I figured this is a timely opportunity to share it. I agree. When this comes up, you should bring those jokes up. Yeah. The guy says he drove a Volkswagen rabbit back in the day. He and his girlfriend had sex in the back seat, but he knew he got her pregnant right away

because on the drive home, the car died. I actually kind of like it. Yeah. It's bad. Nobody younger than us would get that joke if we told it. Yeah, because that rabbit thing is out of the public consciousness. Exactly. And it was only in mind from MASH.

That's it. Yeah. Never heard it anywhere else? So for me, soap. Yeah. Like a couple of points of entertainment and no other, I never heard a doctor say it. I never heard anyone pregnant talk about it. No.

It was just an old thing that we knew enough of it. about it. Brian and I had to have the joke work, but yeah, not anymore. That'd be fun to make a list of jokes that no longer work. It'd be kind of fun, wouldn't it? It would be kind of fun. Talk about it on the show a little bit. I mean, hell, I talked about crustless pizza. I can talk about that. That's right. I tried dialing the phone the other day, but my finger was getting tired, spinning in circles. Kids are going, what? Like, what the hell is that? You know what? The only reason I know really about fountain pens is cartoons from the 40s.

Like Tom and Jerry squirting fountain pens in each other's face. And that's how I knew that that was a thing, that they had a little handle on them. A little ink thing, yeah. Or those balls, the ticker tape balls that they use for like stock market back in the day where the, can they read it and go, ah, it looks like, I don't know, DuPont is up 4%. Chemicals, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the only reason I knew that existed were cartoons and then later Hudson Sucker proxy. those clear

mysterious helmets Yes. So nobody knows what those are today. No. Go watch something mold. Catch yourselves up, kids. Gen Alpha, we hear you.

All right. Moving on. Take your tape machine that tells me how many thread subscribers I have and just has a constant Oh, I like that. Yeah.

Oh, I fixed. I think I really don't, by the way. I fixed my threads problem. I still don't like use it, use it, but going there to post something, I'm always like bombardo with shit I don't want to see and I have to kind of ignore it. It's the feature in there to use

for those who may be like, I kind of like the way it works and I like it better than Twitter, but I don't like all the trash I'm getting in my 4U thing. Just use liberally that there's a little hamburger button and choose not interested. Not mute, not block, none of that, just not interested.

It almost immediately, somebody said this to me and I thought I'd try it. It almost immediately cleaned my feet up. Oh, cool. Now it's all games and movies and shit. Perfect. So apparently their algorithm really depends heavily on what you say not interested in, both account-wise and content-wise.

I do that constantly with YouTube. You know, like, oh, no, I don't care about this. This ending of Avengers Encore explained. It's like, no, I understood it. Not interested. Yep. And it does really well with that. Yeah, it does.

And the same feature exists. That's why I never thought much about it, because the same features on Twitter slash X, and it doesn't do this over there. It doesn't work there. No, I get worse shit if I say I don't like it. I think he's saying he wants more of this. Yeah.

It's like when you unsubscribe to an email that is spam, you're not actually unsubscribe. You're confirming you're a human. Confirming the email works. So they send you more bullshit. So I guess I'll give one tiny, tiny thumbs up to meta for one thing. And that is, that's how that should work. So good job, I guess.

Your finger is say no. more of this, but your eyes, give me more. Jess and Jet. Anyway, let's get out of here. Frogpants.com slash TMS is the website. And once again, a reminder to go do the TMS Vegas survey, tiny. dot CC slash TMS Vegas. Let's get some of that feedback in.

Yeah. Core coming up at noon. The instance on Friday. I put up a special one yesterday or I talked to Tanner. Oh, good. Yeah, I saw some of that. I watched, yeah, talking about the, it looked like it was going to be a guild thing

and there is guild stuff in it but it's just more of like where the game's going and that sort of thing. It was like great to see. Yeah, it was a great chat. Yeah, it's good to talk to him. Plus, he just had a ton of access more than most people get at BlizzCon for summary.

He's a tenacious dude. He is. If he has a question about something, he will hunt you down and find it out. He'll find a way to get it. So he got a lot of interesting comments from devs and stuff and then he also has this perspective of somebody who's going to try to

run a two-faction guild with the core guild and we talked about what that takes and what that means and anyway it was super interesting so check it out if you're not already subbed to the instance feed or you're on the old one that you shouldn't be on the thing's ancient like years ago what are you doing there still go check it out you're doing check it out on the frog pants site all right that is it for the show bryans play a song and get the f out certainly uh mary speaking of oreos the former queen of the oreos she said that uh you said you needed requests so it's my birthday. I'm going to be 44. I sent you all, including Daryl, Oreos, until Scott went off the Shug. I'm happy that someone else has taken up the mantle. I'd love it if Brian found yet another

Al Yankovic cover to play if possible. If not, anything geek will do. How about a booby? All my love for the show, though, Mary. How about a booby? How about a booby? I might have that handy. I might have that handy. How about a booby? There it is. I haven't heard that one a long time. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? This is one that I'm surprised we haven't played. And It's one of my favorite artists covering one of my favorite artists. It's really all Yankevick actually covering Sparks. And he did this for that really cool Edgar Wright documentary called Sparks Brothers, which talks about Ron and Russell Mail and the weird-ass journey of the band Sparks.

If you haven't seen it, it's really good. And it basically, when you see all these people talking about how much they love the band, you really find out that Sparks is your favorite band's favorite band. Anyway, for that soundtrack, for that movie, Rydale-Yankovic covered. This town ain't big enough for the both of us completely on accordion, no vocals at all, and he does an amazing job. It reminds you, like, what a great accordion player, Weird Al is. That is good. You forget.

It boils it down to it. So here it is Roodal-Yankovic. This town ain't being enough for the both of us. Find all our shows at frogpants.com. Skad, this is your mother. I will not have you talking like a streetwalker trucker type.