The Morning Stream - TMS 3080: Proof of Garbage
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Hello, and welcome to TMS.
This is the Morning Stream for October 8th, 2000 and 26.
I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian of it.
Yeah.
Hey, it's an octo day.
It's October, and then Ock, well, eight, so.
Yeah, yeah.
How do you say it?
Octagon, octagonal, octagonal.
Octomom.
Sure.
Remember her?
Yeah, I remember her.
I remember.
I remember.
It's good to be here.
Brian and I, you know, banging out another one.
It's what we do.
It's Casa Benita Day, which is why I'm wearing the Dia del Muerte.
Oh, very nice.
That means Barry's coming in town or is in town?
He's coming into town.
He's probably getting ready to,
probably getting ready to head to the airport to board a flight to come out here.
Nice.
You picking him up?
Is he doing a rental?
What's going on that?
He's taking the train.
I'm picking him up from the train station.
Oh,
my baby takes the morning train.
And train.
He works from 9 to 5.
And then they've got raccoons all over the neighborhood.
And his wife is kind of funny.
We did it.
There you go.
Did it.
We completed it.
achieved.
Listen up, y'all.
We're going to do a show.
I got a quick thing here.
Yeah.
I haven't talked about this because it just didn't seem that interesting,
but now it got interesting.
It just really seemed kind of boring.
So we're at the 20.
But now it has gotten interesting.
Yeah, we got to the 22 year mark on our roof.
And that's, the roof's fine.
Like it's good, it was a good roof to begin with.
What is that in roof years?
I think they share the same rears as us now that you mentioned.
Okay.
I think that's a good question.
But I'll tell you what it is in roof years.
It's, uh-oh, the insurance company will no longer cover you if you don't redo your roof.
And I hate this part of insurance because if you go up there and look at it before the work before swapping it out or before doing a new roof job, it is a really good one that has lasted not only 22 years, but it looks like it's new.
It doesn't have any wear and tear.
It's not rotting anywhere.
There's no like sun damage.
it's held up extremely well.
And so my thinking is you should be able to go up there with an insurance adjuster or something and go,
oh, this all looks great, never mind, we'll extend you another five years or whatever.
But instead they have this arbitrary rule that says 20 years and you're done.
You either get a new roof or we don't cover certain liabilities anymore.
I know. It's so dumb.
So we knew this is kind of coming because, you know, we're two years over the mark.
And we're trying to get some insurance tweaks.
and so to do that and keep the coverage, we have to do the roof.
So we did the roof.
And here's the best part of doing the roof is that we know a guy who's not only licensed and insured and all the things you need to be,
but also we just know them personally.
And he gave us a killer deal.
Oh, good deal.
Just saved on the labor and the stuff and everything.
And of course, they come over here, dude.
It's like, they told us the worst story.
They were on some big job at some fancy guy's mansion.
Mm-hmm.
doing roof and as soon as they finish the job the owners of the house called freaking
mother effing ice to come pick up these guys on the people who are actually working on the roof yeah
oh my god some real dark shit like really put i was so angry dude i heard this i was so mad for these guys
and he's like so he was the reason he brought that up is because kim decides to be mother teresa
And this is before we knew the story.
But she had made this, like,
specialty baked chicken thing
that she wanted to do a recipe for.
She made enough for, like, all these guys.
All the roofers.
Yeah, so during lunch that day,
she brings out this spread outside
with, like, full everything and cold drinks
and, and, like, a custom meal, like,
you know, not like lunch.
It was, like, full on day.
And they all look.
so confused. They were all just like, what is happening here? No kidding. We were worried a little bit
because they were like, no one does this. Is this, are you trying to keep us here before they get here?
What are you guys doing? So it was like, you know, good karma. Everybody's having a good time.
They were extremely grateful, very kind and nice. And they were really efficient, fast. They got us done really quick.
And now our insurance is okay. And, you know, it just was expensive. But we saved money. So whatever. I'm not complaining.
Yes. Right.
The main thing is we hear this story and I was so angry about it.
That I was like, who do you call when something like that happens?
And the problem is you can't call anybody.
Like, it feels like something I should be able to call the cops on and say, go after that douche.
But it's like the cops are the cops.
They are the problem or they're part of it.
Anyway, long story short, all this goes on.
Had a great time, whatever.
And they were very grateful and nice and sweet.
part of this was he had to contract a provider of the big giant trash bins,
you know, the big metaly.
The one, the roll-ons.
The roloffs, I guess they call them roll-off.
Oh, that's the name.
I couldn't think of what these are called.
That's it.
It's rollofs.
They bring it on a big old thing and, you know, leave it in the front,
and then you do your thing, and then when they're done, they take it away.
In the middle of the night, the neighbors throw their large waste products in there
that they can't get rid of otherwise.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm sure some did.
I didn't check, but I'm absolutely sure of this.
And the reason I'm sure of it is because there's been a problem.
So it was supposed to be here for the three days.
They did the tear off and then the redo and then any extra stuff that gets thrown away.
So the idea is the day after they were done, that trash thing would still be there just in case.
But then the next day out of here.
Right.
It didn't leave.
Okay.
It was still there.
And we're like, hmm, that's weird.
We're three days now.
Or the three days have passed and we're like, this is getting strange.
They're supposed to pick it up.
We can't do anything with it.
And we're not directly working with them, so we can't call them.
It's a contract from the guy.
Right.
We have to get, yeah.
So we call the guy and we go, hey, man, I think they messed up or just left it or whatever.
He goes, oh, I'm sorry, that should not be out there.
Let me call them and I'll get it taken care of.
He calls them.
And their answer is, oh, we picked that up days ago.
And I'm like, it's right here.
Yeah.
It's sitting right there.
And it's slowly building up of shit from other people that I don't think.
think you guys want in that thing. Right. Okay. So it is, yeah, people are dropping their crap,
crap off in there. Yeah. Like regular bags of trash, which that's not supposed to,
right. They even tell you on the side. It says, don't do that. Exactly. And there's even a line
inside that says everything has to be under this line. Yeah, that's also, that's true also. And it's
starting to not be that. And I'm like, it's not our stuff. So just so you know, whatever their
problem is with losing a giant dumpster, I don't know how you do that, even though it's not lost,
it's right freaking here.
Oh, looks like we picked up a cyber truck.
Sorry, yeah, we'll be over there to pick it up.
Yeah, and it does, some of the chats,
they should have a, oh, I course says, should have a serial number.
It does. They don't, they know what it is,
and we've told them, and they still are like,
well, no, that should have been, okay, is it still there?
And like, yeah, it's still freaking there and send your pictures.
If you need it.
Here's a photo of it holding up today's newspaper.
Exactly.
Yeah. So I was like,
do you need me to do anything else?
because right now we are the eyesore of the neighborhood,
the guy who usually parks this car there.
My guy, I mean a very important person
with the hockey organization next door.
He's not loving this.
And it's going to snow or rain or do something crazy
with this weird weather pattern
that's gushing up to the West Coast.
And so we're starting to get a little stressed about it.
And the guy's like, well, we show it's long gone,
but I guess we can.
I'm like, I mean, it's right here.
Come freaking get it.
There's no benefit to us to bring
you out to our house to pick up something that's not here.
Yeah.
So if it doesn't go today, I don't really know what to think of it.
I know.
Am I supposed to keep this thing?
I say you tell them that if you don't pick it up, I'm going to set the contents on fire.
Oh, yeah, dude.
That'd be great, right?
I'm sure that would be HOA approved around here.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah, I'm sure that would go really well.
Yeah.
But yeah, overall, though, it was a very, it was actually a pretty good experience.
And here's the funny, here's the irony.
There's a townhome.
complex of like four town homes
that are all mushed together
and it's an older one so they're also getting
re-roofed. They started their re-roofing
and that's HOA re-roofing
so because of how they
have stuff arranged. Yeah, it's different than the houses.
Yeah. We're in charge of ours because it's home
they have to do theirs and they started
it like two weeks ahead and it's smaller
the overall surface area is actually smaller
roof surface area than our one house
yet
they started two weeks before us.
and it's now been a week since us
and they're still maybe only half done.
They have stacks of crap.
You can tell that they are...
Are they missing a dumpster?
That's what I was going to say, dude.
You guys need a place to put all the shit
because we got one right out front.
They probably picked that one up.
They probably picked up theirs and said,
nope, I show it's picked up.
Yeah, it was real dumb, but whatever.
So everyone wish me luck.
If it's not gone today,
they keep...
Now they claim, oh, today's the day.
They'll be out there today.
If it's not gone today, then, you know, we'll just have to talk about it more, I guess.
That's what we do here on the show.
Anyway, I like the race idea of just post a YouTube video of it and tag them.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Yeah.
Why don't I do that?
A little social media action going, oh, crap.
All right.
How can I get on fail arming?
Can I trip into it or something or do like a backflip?
Yeah, right.
Oh, please don't.
Please don't do a backflip into a roll.
off dumpster.
Yeah.
I don't know how that's going to work.
But anyway,
we also have something to do today
that's very, very important.
This is very important stuff right here.
Very important stuff.
Yeah, so I'm going to play this.
Would you not eat my pants?
We have a,
the final of the three, I think.
New flavor.
Two.
Did we only do two?
We only did two.
Chicken Waffles was the other one.
The third one that you can vote on
is called Deep Fried.
And I didn't get a thing of deep fried.
No, I didn't either.
I don't know.
It's interesting looking.
It's an Oreo that looks like it's got three layers of stuff in it.
Look at that.
And a thumb.
A thumb emoji that hovers just outside the rim.
So hold on.
Does that, what are the three little...
I don't know.
I'm trying to see if it...
Like, how you'd represent deep fried is it weird?
I know. Exactly.
Well, one flavor is grease.
and then,
I mean, is that a thing at a fair?
Can I get deep fried Oreo somewhere?
Yes.
Oh, yeah, every fair.
Oh, I've never had that.
Is that good?
Or is that, what is that?
I don't know if I've even had one either.
I've had chocolate covered Oreos.
I don't think I've ever had a deep fried Oreo.
Do they bread them?
Like, yeah, yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
They're batter-dipped like, probably like waffle or what's the funnel cake dough.
Oh, that's, that's,
wouldn't be bad. Yeah.
I could see that working.
I assume this is again.
Yeah. In my head, I'm thinking like,
you know, fried chicken or something,
which is, I guess they already did that
with the other chicken and waffles, but.
Right, right. Oh, God, that kind of batter
would be, yeah. Can you imagine, dude?
Like a temper. Tempor
Oh my gosh. I don't know. Maybe
temper with the right or the, I guess so.
If it doesn't have, if it doesn't,
if it's not salty, well, even
lightly salty would be pretty good, right?
with the sugar.
Yeah. That worked with the chicken and waffles
pretty well. Yeah.
I still say those were
stupid good. Those were some of the best
non-regular Oreos
that we've ever had. It honestly kind of makes no
sense, but who are we to make
sense of this world? So we're going to eat these. These are the
maple cream. No, this isn't
the right ones. I grabbed the wrong ones.
Oh, you grabbed the wrong bag. Yeah.
We did get maple cream a while
back, so that's not one of the
vote ones. It looked the same to me.
we go okay so this is banana pudding oh my gosh if it doesn't taste like a nill
a wafer I'm out yeah that's the is the right okay way this is the way it's very uh
very light it is you know what I mean like no contrast here really light livered
it's a little light livered all right here we go oh they smell good
Mmm.
Ooh.
Mm-hmm.
Ooh, you know what?
I'd vote for that.
Over the chicken waffles?
Oh.
It was interesting.
So it's also got multicolored
there's yellow frosting on one side.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And white on the other.
That's right.
I didn't even notice that until you said it.
Look at that.
So I think maybe
adult Scott votes for chicken and waffles and
kids Scott would vote for these
because there's like
They're both very good. Yeah.
This is definitely on the sweeter side
because it doesn't have that salt to kind of counter it.
But, ooh, it's very good.
I'm a sucker for like banana.
I know none of this is real.
Right, right.
Let's see, flavor cream.
I mean, there's that, you know,
the fake banana flavor is what makes the banana
runs so good.
That's true.
It's better than real banana.
Flavor.
It is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How much sugar's in this?
11 added.
It's not bad, though, because a serving is two cookies.
Isn't it usually three?
It's usually two.
Oh, it's always two.
Three on the Oreo thins.
Okay.
Oh, I've studied.
Believe me.
You've looked into it.
I've done my homework on Oreo serving sizes.
I like that.
It's good.
It's good.
So what's the third?
one. Deep fried is the third one. Oh, that's right. So we can't really truly pick our favorite until we
get that. But if we, but if we consider the maple, the chicken waffles and the banana pudding,
yeah. I'd go chicken and waffles, a very close second for banana pudding and actually a very
close third for the maple. I think all three of them are really good. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
I think that's the, I think that's the order. So if anyone, if anyone wants to get us those, those deep
frieds, we'll try them.
Yeah.
Or get us a bag of hydrox, you know?
We'll, uh...
Yeah, we'll support the...
We'll support the hydra to the shield of Oreo.
Yeah.
I don't know if they're still a concern.
Are those guys still going?
I don't know if you can still get hydrox.
Hydrocks, let's see.
You're looking on Amazon?
Yeah.
Oh, they're owned by leaf brands.
Oh, yeah, they still make them.
Wow.
America's original, they say.
Sure.
That's about their only thing they can...
Less sweet, feel.
filling dark chocolate crunchier now I'm not seeing them on Amazon that's interesting
I'm looking at the leaf page maybe they don't sell them there yeah it looks like
they don't but you can get them in I think let's see shop oh how is it there
there's got to have been at one time pumpkin spice Oreos oh come on there has to be
right yeah didn't didn't we even maybe try those with I'm sure we did we had to
They're not doing it this year, maybe, is the deal?
No, not seeing it.
There's boo Oreos with pumpkins on the cover, but it's orange cream.
Apple pie a la mode.
Here it is.
I found it.
Did you?
Pumpkins spice.
Yeah.
Is this available?
Hold on.
Okay.
This is up.
This is on Walmart.
Yeah, you can get them now.
All right.
Good.
There you go.
All right.
Well, if I get in the, if I get a hankering, oh, that looks.
That's funny because that's.
the maple. Yeah. Those are the maple
graphics. Hey, hold on. Oh, no. The maples.
Oh, is it different? Well, here. Oh, I guess, never mind. That's the,
that's the edge of a pie. Yeah. Oh, I see what you mean. Those look like those
maple candies you get. Those, um, those super concentrated
maple. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But it's the edge of the pie is what we're looking at.
That's right. When you eat those, they melt like mud.
Yeah, it's kind of grainy.
They erode like, yes, exactly.
Like when you build a sandcastle and the water comes up,
that's how they melt in your mouth.
Yeah.
You're not wrong about that.
All right, well, thanks.
Mike Pacholic is the main thing.
Yes.
That was very nice of you.
I'm going to now move these out of my purview.
Yes, put them just out of reach.
Let them, put them close to the kids and then, you know,
get a little container that can hold two.
Yeah.
Put them in the container.
and bring them down to your office.
There you go.
With my hot new numbers, I can do it.
There you go.
Or just not overdo it is the thing.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Oh, I lost a pound today with Wigovi.
I guess I can have two Big Macs.
That's how people do it, right?
When I was growing up, people would tell,
I had a friend whose parents told him that if,
as long as he drank a Diet Coke with whatever he ate,
it would counter.
Oh, no, like it would reduce the calories of the rest of me.
And all like, that is some my 600-pound life talk right there, whatever that is.
Yeah, that's wrong.
Yeah, not good.
All right, everybody, time for a little bit of news here.
We're going to inform as well as entertained today.
That's the deal.
So enjoy this.
You can tell I've been listening to a lot of old.
Wow.
I like that.
A lot of old nature documentaries.
It's National Geographic, right?
Yep.
It was National Geographic, the Mutual of Omaha one.
I watched a clip show.
Oh, and I remember the sidekick's name, and now I forgot it.
They talked about him yesterday.
Marlon Perkins and.
They put him in the chat yesterday.
Jim.
Jim Fowler.
Jim Fowler, that's it.
Yeah.
And they did this episode that I watched where they're like, Jim, do you remember the time the bear came out of the, I sure do?
That was a, like, they really.
You were safe in the studio, weren't you, Marlon?
They were so scripted about it.
It was ridiculous.
Also, they were doing some shit with animals that I don't think is legal now.
Oh, really?
Just out like wrestling a wild cheetah and putting it in a bag.
And it's like...
Oh, geez.
And there's like two guys doing it.
It didn't seem right to me.
Something about that.
All right.
Let's get into the stories.
Here's one.
Oh, it's brought to you, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Who's it brought to you by?
It's brought to you by Coverville.
Yes, I'm back today.
I mean I'm healthy.
That just sound like I'm not.
Three monumental albums, each released 40, 50, and 60 years ago.
I'm talking about XTC's Skylarking, fantastic album.
Parsley-Sage Rose Marian time by Simon Garfunkel, 60 years ago, and 50 years ago,
New World Record by Electric Light Orchestra.
All of them like big hit albums for each artist.
And we're going to be celebrating the 40th, 50th, and 60th anniversary of each of those three albums today with covers right after TMS.
Very nice. What do I know from Skylarking song?
Dear God was the big hit.
Oh, Dear God.
Dear God.
Deerba do.
Yeah.
Earned enough for us was also a big hit.
I've been praying all the week through at home and working on the bus.
I've been praying I can keep you.
And to earn enough for us.
Just since I'm doing that solo, it was not a big of a fit that you remember the lyrics.
No, but I enjoyed what you just did a lot.
I like that a lot.
So this is a Todd Rundgren joint?
It was the Todd Rundgren produced album.
Yeah, it was the only one that he produced for XTC.
I need to go listen to that today.
You do.
It is, they've released a 5-1 mix a few years ago about it on Blu-ray, and it just sounds amazing,
especially the first song. It's Summer's Caldron.
And you close your eyes and you are in the middle of a kind of a grassy, swampy marsh with crickets and frogs and a dragonfly buzzing by your head and stuff like that.
The sound is just incredible.
It's a headphone album for sure or AirPods album.
I'm doing that.
Yeah.
I like to do this when sometimes you'll bring up stuff and you're doing recovery.
I'll just go, oh shit.
Yeah.
Why is that still up?
Sorry, everybody.
It's not pre-show.
There's the album right there.
Right there.
Oh, such a good album.
That was the thing that locked me into being an XTC super fan.
What are those people doing there?
They're playing flutes.
Oh.
They're nymphs, I think.
Yeah.
She's going to, dude, could you get your junk a little further away from me?
Yeah.
Why do you have to blow that right in my chest, Bob?
I don't like it.
And what's up with your eye, Bob?
Bob's being kind of a.
Dick.
All right, here's your first story.
Flock Safety, I talked about this a little bit yesterday, but today we get to talk about it more.
Flock Safety CEO, this is the Flock Camera guy.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
His home is now marked public toilet after it was blurred on Street View.
On the Google Street View there.
Garrett Langley, Chief Executive of Flock Safety, a company who's automated license plate reader cameras,
tracked vehicle movements across thousands of American communities.
It's not just that.
They also film people.
All right? It's not just, there's freaking cars.
Right.
Anyway, is now the subject of a different kind of online scrutiny.
Scrutiny.
Scrutiny.
I can't hear that word of that.
No.
Internet users reportedly flagged his property as a public toilet on Google Maps.
It all started when Langley stepped into the public eye debate during a, or public debate during an appearance on Fox News,
where he argued that people who focus on privacy or safety alone are, quote, prioritizing the wrong thing, unquote.
Whatever, dude.
selling cameras. Exactly.
Selling the data is the problem.
Yeah.
If they were just used, if it was just used
for license plate and
tracking criminals and
abducted
children, things like that, Amber alerts,
we'd be fine with it.
But they're selling the data. They're selling
the data. Plus, they're cops who are using
it to, like, stock women.
Oh, really? That they think are hot
and stuff like that. Yeah.
All kinds of bullshit with those things.
They suck.
the comments drew backlash on social media and online forums what followed went further than typical online criticism
what i love is me saying this right now is going to set somebody off they're going to email me of
course and they're going to argue for more surveillance from the state and that's crazy because you
people usually scream about getting surveilled totally yes freaking guarantee the people who would
be complaining to you have those um
things over their license plates that make it so police can't do the speed scanners on them.
Yeah.
You know, deflect the lasers.
They got like three T-shirts that say, don't tread on me.
They do all the things.
But the minute, it seems like, oh, wait a minute, does our team like surveillance?
Never mind.
It's great.
Yeah, we're okay with it.
Yeah.
Data center is good?
Is that what we're doing?
Because normally I would hate that.
Are we liking that now?
Yeah.
Can I think for myself?
No.
The fact that they can now put public toilet as a label on Google Maps is great.
I've learned because I set up Coverville 3D as a business a couple weeks ago, an official licensed business.
Oh, nice.
If you need something 3D printed, reach out to me, people.
Actually doing a commissioned snow speeder for somebody right now that is really cool.
It's not the one they, the one they.
used on screen in Empire Strikes Back, but apparently it was an early design and it's really cool.
Ooh, I often like those more.
Yeah, I do too. But so when you start a business and then you go over to Google and register
your business so that it shows up in search results, you can, you can either say, yes, my business
is here in my house, but I don't want my address on there because I do, it's not a walk-up
store or anything like that.
Oh, okay.
But if you do say, like, let's say you operate a massages in your basement or hair salon or nails or something like that.
And you have people coming to your house and you do want that.
It'll show up on Google Maps now, right?
Obviously, so, you know, I'm dropping somebody off right next to A1 contracting,
which is the next house to the person that I'm dropping off.
Sure.
Sure, sure.
So you could start a business and with very little proof.
call somebody's house, I am a poop or something like that.
LLC.
Wow.
And everyone sees it then.
And everyone sees it.
Like you go into Google Maps and search in neighborhoods.
You zoom in on neighborhoods and you'll see these businesses you can easily have.
I am a poop, LLC.
It seems like that might be something Google would want to tweak.
I would think so, yes.
Not that I don't, you know, I'm kind of happy to see this guy getting shade.
But at the same time, it's like, if this is that easy, you can just screw it normal people.
Maybe it kind of does need to be, yeah.
It's not even clear in the story whether he requested the blurring of his house.
Oh, right.
He probably, I'm sure he did.
He probably did, or his company did, or I don't know.
They're a big, you know.
Do we know the address of the people who paid for the roof and then called ICE?
I think they might have a new business called colonoscopy turd,
drop off LLC.
Yeah.
Everyone leave your turds in a box in our front porch.
We make it very easy for the customer.
Exactly.
Bastards.
Yes.
Oh, that makes me so mad just thinking about it.
Who does that?
You come do the work.
Absolutely horrendous.
You do the work.
They're saving money anyway because they went with this guy who's like a smaller
startup and didn't pay some big giant roofing conglomerate.
And then they wait until it's done.
Okay, is it done?
All right now.
Get these Mexicans out of here?
Exactly.
And you know that they're bragging about it to their friends of the country club, too, the next day.
Like, that's what we did.
We waited until the house was done, and then we called ice, me.
It's so gross, dude.
I have a story I could tell, but it's personal enough that the neighbor might hear it, so I'm not going to tell it on the show.
But I need to tell you sometime.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's gnarly.
Yeah, so, like, if I zoom in on my own neighborhood here, let's see, there's a few.
And these are all people's businesses.
Little Eden plant scaping,
AEA Gallery.
Let's see.
And they're all just, you know,
these people use their own,
their home address as their business.
D's nuts at the LLC.
Yeah, right.
Life and Portraits, Family Photography.
Oh, there you go.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
So if I had a public-facing aspect of Frog Pants, I could do.
Right.
You could do that.
You would have Frog Pants LLC,
and people would be able to zoom in on Google Maps
and see where it is.
Yep. Well, that guy, he's getting, everyone's zooming in on his blur now,
which is ironic since his cameras, the whole idea is to unblur everything.
Good point, yes.
How about some flock cameras in your yard?
We can all look at you all day, you turd.
He also looks like he's 12 and I don't like it, the CEO.
Oh, one of those guys.
One of those guys.
You know, I honestly thought the nerds might save us.
I was wrong.
The nerds are going to destroy us.
They have not, they have not saved us now.
Nope. Back in the day, I was like, yeah, that's right. Take that jocks. Look at all the nerds. They're the smart ones. They're the ones that figured out all this tech. We're going to, they're going to save the world. You think you were so cool at school with your football and your whatnot. But no, it's the nerds who are going to save us. It's the opposite. Money corrupts everybody.
Unfortunately, the rich nerds are not going to save us. Have a look at this one here. I just put it in our chat. And this isn't really doxing because, hey, it doesn't give their address.
That's their business name, but it's just funny.
Storetastic.
All right.
Stortastic clothing store.
Wow.
And there's a little handicapped guy getting away as fast as he can from that.
Must be terrible.
Look at him, just hauling ass.
That's right.
Oh, shit.
Don't believe them.
They're not selling clothes.
They're trying to kill the folks with disabilities.
They took my clothes.
I'm riding away naked.
Anyway, there we go.
All right.
Well, that's something I didn't know, and now I know it.
I feel as if I have learned something.
It's always good to learn, but what's more important is for you guys to learn how to be better people, better thinkers, have more emotional intelligence and live a longer, happier life.
How do you do that?
Well, you do this.
Something wrong, Batman.
Has anybody seen Wendy?
You let my sister in the room.
She's right here.
Hi, Wendy.
How are you?
Hi.
I'm like so much pressure in that buildup.
I know, right?
Yeah, you'd better live up to it too.
Yeah.
Good.
You don't want to see the Yelp reviews we've been getting on you.
Yeah.
They're terrible.
Oh my gosh.
1.8 stars for Wendy?
No, that's not true.
If I could give a zero star review, I would.
I don't know if they, you know what?
Yelp doesn't do like digital product reviews, do they?
Like if you wanted to review a podcast, could you do that on Yelp?
I guess you could.
I don't see why not?
Yeah.
I always think of restaurants and, I don't know.
You kind of have to have the business.
This is why you'd have to have the business registered, which you do.
So I think you could go to Frog Pants LLC and leave a Yelp review.
Everybody go do a non-trust pilot.
Oh, yeah, trust pilot.
Do it.
You know, we have a very, we have a prestigious honor-based system here at TMS.
When you review us on Yelp, remember that, okay?
High stars.
That's what we want.
Wendy, it's good to have you here.
Wendy is my sister.
She is also a professional mental health expert who helps people all the time.
With their problems, she comes on the show on Thursdays and helps some of you with yours.
And today, we have something in the form of a follow-up, which I will read now.
Here it is.
Dear Scott, thanks for the excellent discussion with Wendy on Therapy Thursday.
I appreciate you reading out my question.
Maybe another topic when you don't have another topic from another listener.
We did it anyway because we like this so much.
It says in yesterday's episode, you remarked about the dude who is telling you to eat.
I have a similar dude, although he has quiet.
down since taking GLP-1s.
My question for the show,
has Wendy heard of other patients
slash research mentioning the dude?
Does Brian have a dude?
Do only people with anxiety have a dude
who is telling them to make bad decisions?
Any other dude-related topics?
Love the show. Keep my name anonymous,
which we will. All right.
Signed Jeffrey Laban.
The dude.
So the context for this was
I said that despite all my efforts,
there's still a dude who says,
you want another of those Oreos?
Even though all the other dudes in my head go,
you don't, don't get them.
Everything's fine.
Focus on what you're doing.
Don't think about that.
But one little dude,
despite any kind of suppression of that dude,
is still over there barking that stuff.
And it's the same dude 10 years ago
that used to tell me not to eat.
But some, he's flipped.
had a total party change over the last 10 years and now he wants me to eat.
Hold on real quick.
The not eating era was it actually like you don't want to eat any of that food?
It was.
It was.
Or you just felt like not eating.
It was literally like a feeling of somebody saying you're going to feel crappy if you eat that.
It was usually around stressful times.
Like if you saw.
On stage, nerdacular.
Yeah, any of those things.
Like going to, let's even, well, I'll use TMS Vegas as an example.
Well, that's a bad one because by then the name, the voice had changed.
But like, let's say 2013 nerdtacular.
If you were around me 24-7 during that planning actual event and post-event,
you would notice that I ate like nothing.
Like I just wouldn't eat.
And my body just wouldn't, wouldn't eat.
And I get real weak and have no energy.
It was awful.
It was stupid and dumb.
But that's what the voice was telling me then.
Now it's the exact opposite.
If something big's coming up or something crazy is going on, there's this dude going, oh, let's load up on carbs.
Let's get distracted with a snack.
Let's eat a whole bowl of those when you should only have two, you know, those kinds of things.
And so I'm sure, you know, metabolically changes happen in your 40s.
And I'm sure that's part of it.
But this metaphorical dude is some version of this in all our heads, right, Wendy?
Probably.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to talk about it.
But first I'm going to argue with you.
Okay.
I like arguing with my sister.
Excellent.
Yeah.
No, just that I'm going to guess you don't remember accurately 2013 if there was a voice
or not telling you not to eat.
And I'll tell you why.
Okay.
Because you and I are the only two people on earth that share the same parents.
And when there is a big thing I'm in charge of, I, my appetite disappears 100%.
And then as soon as it's over, you're like starving and you have to eat really fast, right?
Like you're like, voracious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what I'm getting at is this concept.
called food noise, which is what you are experiencing as you've been as the flip had switched for you, right?
It went from probably not a lot of sound to like a stress response is not usually very loud to not eat.
Because that's not a survival response.
Like you starving was overridden by stress.
That's like I got to run from the tiger.
I'm going to die.
It's not time for me to eat.
That makes sense?
Whereas now your stress response is, I'm going to eat because that's going to help me feel better, right?
So anyway, I'm not really arguing with you.
But the point is memories are fickle.
And that voice wouldn't have changed.
And this is what I'm going to get out with the dude.
So the dude is those are two different experiences.
It's not the same dude.
And this is where people are going to go, is Wendy telling us all we have schizophrenia?
The answer is, I am.
As a matter of fact, yes.
Matter of fact, you all have it.
Okay, so we're going to spread this out away from food as well, but like the food one specifically,
what we have found with JLP1 research and really it's become, the concept of food noise has been become popularized,
which is the, that voice or the dude wanting to eat, telling you to eat, and it can even be disordered historically.
Like, don't eat that.
That's so bad.
And then you go binge it.
Like it plays a big role in a lot of people's lives.
And it's for biological reasons.
Right. We have a healthy set point in our bodies. That means we're not starving and we're not
overeating. And that like little magic number is different for everyone. And this is why our
obsession with how we look is so unfair because no one can control this thing, right? But what happens
is if we go below that set point, the dude comes out and says, you've got to eat now.
like eat, eat, eat, right?
And then if you are eating too much, we also have other, I don't know how we got to call
them different names, but other dudes come out and rip on you for eating so much, correct?
Right.
Right.
So we have all sorts of voices in our heads interacting around our body and our decisions,
but our actual body needs certain things to survive.
It's going to behave in certain ways that are just metabolically determined.
And now we have a environment where we aren't built for where there is just food constantly available.
And so our set points have shifted, not set points, not that core biological ones, but
now we're getting used to our metabolism gets used to eating, eating, eating.
And that's why dieting puts us in yo-yo mode because when you diet and starve, everything
adjusts.
Like, oh, famine?
Cool.
I remember famine.
and then you're surrounded by readily, you know, accessible food.
And so that voice gets louder and louder and louder.
So that's what people are noticing with JLP ones is the voice just kind of dies down, right?
Have you noticed that, Scott?
Oh, yeah, definitely quieted down.
Yeah.
For sure.
It's also probably part, it's probably the biggest part of it.
But that combined with the workouts, yesterday I got the news that I have an absolutely
normal A1C is of today, which is a big deal, right?
I was freaking out.
I was so excited because last time I was in there in June,
it was like way bad.
Yeah.
And it turns out just that voice getting quieted enough and kind of just your
metabolic system just evening out.
Like, I don't know, getting back to its norms or whatever or what,
its baseline goodness has done wonders for me.
Like it's been, it's been crazy.
So it's funny that we're talking about this the day after I got that news.
about. That's awesome. And congratulations. I think one thing that is really important for people to
understand about JLP ones is it is a, it's a drug for a disease. It is not a weight loss drug. It is a
drug to regulate, help regulate blood sugar. And sometimes people lose weight on it. Not everyone,
a lot of people do, obviously, right? But like all good Americans, we turn it into some way to
look like we're doing heroin. You know what I mean? Like instead of a healthy, you know, whatever. Anyway,
The research on is really interesting.
If people are like, oh, this surprising me,
I don't think Wendy, I'd never thought Wendy would be like pro-GLP one.
It's not that I'm pro-diet.
I will never be because it is, it puts us in, like metabolic harm,
yo-yo dieting.
And if someone can diet and have the willpower out to do starve themselves their whole lives,
wow, that's a choice for life.
I will, you know, but 99.9% of us cannot do that.
And so I find the mind is such a better place to work.
then obviously I don't work neck down by a metabolic scientist.
But listen to them.
They will tell you what this really is, right?
But the problem is we always mess with things.
Okay.
So let's move to other dudes, right?
So we've got a food dude.
We've got, you know, kind of any other dudes.
I mean, Scott, maybe, and both you might have noticed,
a quieting of all of the voices with J.O.P.1.
Oh, that's interesting.
I have not noticed.
I mean, I still have the voice,
just the conscience voice, right?
Who says it's almost always the, you know,
just get the iced tea.
Don't need to get the peanut butter cookie with it.
You know, that sort of thing.
Sure.
That's the, I feel like, well, see,
that's the weird thing with my experience is
the voice has gotten quieter,
but he's never left.
So to me, that's why I was,
dreading yesterday's appointment because I was like, I mean, I think I did okay. But I actually kind of
weirdly messed with my perception of how I did. Like I, I was eating, I'm clearly eating. I've lost a bunch
of weight. She's like, oh, another eight pounds down. I'm like, oh, shit. I had no idea.
So like it all, it surprised me a little bit because there were plenty of times where
conscience dude would come out during the last six months ago.
it's just one shake.
Just go ahead and do it.
And then I do it and then go.
And then that same guy would go,
oh, we shouldn't have done that.
I'm like, well, you told me to do it.
Right.
And that's because you know, that was the other guy.
Yeah.
If you think about it,
those two dudes have been trained on dieting.
They haven't been trained on a drug that,
like,
hormonally alters your response to sugar
and produces,
you know,
your insulin response is more effective.
Right.
Right?
Like you can't.
You can't do that with your brain.
That's because a drug has done it, right?
But your brain still has its old tracks
and how it thinks, right?
So as people are listening to this,
any of the voices in your head will have something similar.
It may not be food noise.
It might be performance noise.
It might be perfectionism noise.
Like I have to do this right.
Or the famous noise, which is I'm finally quiet down,
and then my brain turns on and just wants to talk about
every thing I ever did or said, you know.
So the anxiety noise or the review, the rumination stuff, right?
So that's going to be a more common experience, like pretty universal.
And then I think it's fairly universal at this point is food noise because of the way
it's just by the way society is like.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
There's just so many.
Yeah.
And so people are describing having a thing alter they didn't have to work on very hard,
which is this, this brain.
activity, which is fascinating, right?
I mean, some of the studies currently are going to look at other kinds of
addictive behavior to see what happens because it does often help with things like
binge eating because you've no longer have these insane cravings that just take over, right?
Okay, so let's, did he give an example or they?
I can't remember.
Let's see.
Besides food?
No, it just says, does Brian have a dude and do only people with English?
anxiety have a dude. That's interesting. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I would say it's a matter of volume,
kind of like you're describing. This is just anecdotal. I can't not point to a paper where they've
talked about how loud the dudes are. But I think it is literally for most people, either louder or
quieter, you're going to have like some kind of thought and it's going to feel like a
person in there going, oh, you should do this or think of this or did you remember you did, you know,
those kinds of things. And sometimes they're yelling at you. Yeah. And then there are people where
it might be just kind of a subtle thing and they think about it. But they live the rest of their day,
no problem, right? So the answer in short is yes. People with anxiety have more loud dudes typically.
And it kind of depends on what the anxiety is about. So general anxiety disorder, GAD, is just
kind of overarching everywhere you're going to feel anxious.
Yeah. Whereas phobies are going to be a little more specific or OCDs its own flavor of that.
So there's a wide variety, but 100% that the chit chat in the head is, as we are all calling the dude, exists in a little louder range for folks with anxiety.
Folks with depression, similarly, it's a different kind of voice, but tends to be sad, right?
And think negative things. Like your thoughts just get stuff.
and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Or you're a burden.
You know, it starts to get real ugly.
And one of the ways we know the dude exists for so many of us in various ranges is suicidal
thinking is very much a part of our brain sort of taking over, which again doesn't make sense.
Like an organism shouldn't tell itself to die.
That doesn't make any biological sense when we need to survive, right?
But it gets stuck and these sort of neural pathways get really strength.
and it can be, you know, really devastating.
And so, you know, from all, all of us here experiencing one thing or another,
I'm wondering if anyone in the chat wants to throw out a topic that their dude likes to talk about,
that's not food, just somebody, give me something.
We probably had somebody do something already.
Let's see if I can back up here and look.
Perfectionist noise.
Yeah.
Wabit Magic says.
That's interesting.
Let's see.
I'll see no actual voices
and from what's mental pressure
to do no, okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I mean, it is a little bit of anthropomorphic
trickery, right?
Yes, we have 100% anthropomorphize this, right?
I mean, you literally called it the dude.
Here's one.
He says, how about you used to be cool,
the dude that's like, you used to be awesome,
now you're lame or you're getting older, you know?
Now you're like dad rock.
Yeah, I got it.
All right. Aging is a really good example of this, right?
of where a voice was not existing maybe when you were younger, right?
And then suddenly you catch a glimpse in the mirror and you're like,
what?
Grandpa is standing here.
And we're all very ageist.
We all just need to admit it.
And then we have thoughts about that or like you used to be cool or some kind of thing
like that.
Okay.
So let's take that as an example.
And if anyone else has one in their head, we can use that as well.
Okay.
Like the brain just fires randomly.
Okay, it's like a troll. It will throw a criticism at you to see what offends you.
Yeah. This is my three o'clock in the morning.
Oh, it's the worst time, too. It's so bad.
Okay. So here's where this is really, it's such an important shift in thinking about this,
and it's going to sound weird at first, but it's actually really helpful to anthropomorphize
it. If someone's like, oh, well, that's a weird, no, we're humans and we have anthropomorphize.
morphifies everything, but it is really helpful in actually dealing with it, is to see it,
to name it, to kind of make it a lake, a little person.
I assume this is a thing.
I mean, we can name boats, ladies' names.
We talk about hurricanes with names.
It takes away their power, too, because you're basically reducing it to a thing and not
this, not this, you know, magical being.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Like a storm is going to kill us all.
Instead, it's Jerry.
you know, whatever.
Right, exactly.
Terry the story.
You know, I almost said Brian.
Then I really did you know.
I know.
We have one of those.
Okay.
So if you take that, that random neural firing started somewhere.
So I'm going to, I feel like I've told this on the show before, but I'm going to
give a great example.
I was putting a load of laundry and this is 10, feels like 20 years ago.
I don't know.
It was a long time ago.
I was putting a load of laundry.
I remember it was a Monday.
I mean, you're probably like, wow.
you remember one time, but this is what I mean.
I'm putting a load of laundry.
I have a million things to do.
I have all these little kids.
I am super busy.
And I hear a voice.
And I don't usually hear voices, everyone.
Just let you know.
But I could hear it.
I could hear my thought so clearly that it sounded as if someone could have said it, right?
Though I did not hear an actual voice.
It was more like a foreign sentence came in my head, not me.
Like I could really tell it wasn't me.
And not all the time can we tell the difference
and that's what makes this hard, right?
And the voice was, or the sentence was,
as long as you stay busy, you'll be happy.
And I was like, what?
And it's because I could, it's like if someone said
a weird thing to you and you went, that doesn't make sense.
It felt like that.
And I remember thinking, okay, no.
That's like the dumbest idea.
Yeah.
Actually, I think we're less happy.
like what so i just had a little in mental whatever and what happened in that exact moment
that my dude who tried to pop in with a great idea ran away i was like oh crap she sees me
yeah you know okay so that principle um exists in everybody the problem is when that sort of first
thought creeped in for anyone at any point with that whatever their thing is they either believed
it wholeheartedly thought it was themselves didn't hear it as a separate thing just you know and
i've done the same thing too but for whatever reason that one just was really obvious right and so it just
gets going now we have a neural pairing two neurons fired together with a dumb thought and here it is
and now i believe it so now what if i then lived my life based on that thought that reoccurs or
believe and it shows up every once in a while if i don't have enough to do it then tells me well you're
never going to be happy if you're not busy you're super busy what you're doing
you know and you're like oh and so you can see how this then becomes like a dominant narrative right
and these can be sourced from a lot of things random it can be absolutely sourced from the
people who raised you the teachers you have the culture you surround yourself with the media you
consume that you would have certain ways of performing thinking living that are from outside of you
Okay, right?
And then your brain takes them on, puts them in your voice, makes it feel really, really real.
And there's a reason for this is biologically we need to survive in life.
And so our brain, this prefrontal cortex is incredible.
It's very new.
And it still does things like, I don't know what's actually happening.
So I'm going to lie until we figure it out.
And it makes up stuff left and right.
And so it made up that thought.
Okay.
And now what if I just live my life based on that?
Like, I was constantly stressed 100% of the time.
I couldn't make time for the things that are really important because I had to do all these other things.
You know, like you could see where that starts to drive a human's life.
And then the irony, this always makes me mad, is it's the opposite of what it tells you.
You are going to actually be miserable, not happy, right?
And so take the food thing.
Any dude food comments, like, what?
If you stopped and just went, like if a real person's, you know, bellied up to you next.
at the food truck and said, you know what?
If you slather more gravy on those fries,
no one will love you.
You would be like, what?
Yeah, that's a weird voice.
Yeah.
It is really weird.
And so your goal here is to try to hear it,
to hear it separate from you.
So a great way to do this is to ask yourself,
how do you feel about the dude?
Or how do you feel, sorry, let me say it better,
How do you feel towards the dude, towards the part of you that jumps in to tell you you look fat?
Or jumps in to tell you you have to do that right or non-a-love you.
Or jumps in to say people must be disappointed in the way you didn't check your email today or whatever.
Right.
How do you feel towards it?
So, Scott, how do you feel towards the dude?
That's interesting because usually just in the midst of it, it's often just, well, this is just you talking to yourself, feeling, whatever.
But if you objectify it as the dude and you look at it from that, it really is just a change of perspective.
It kind of changes how much power I give it, I guess.
And the way to do it is to say feeling towards it, not how do you feel about it?
Right, right, right.
It's like towards it.
Do you like the dude?
Do you want to me at your party?
No, I find the dude, I find my dude very annoying.
And so looking at it from that perspective, if I can start doing that, I think I can probably,
be a little more like, you know how yours ran away?
More like that.
Like embarrass that dude a little bit.
Yeah.
And here's the thing.
The key is not hating it.
I know it's tempting for many people when they are hearing this.
They're like, oh, that part feels like it destroys my life.
Right.
Yeah.
And so if we can step back from some of the hating it and despising it and enter a little bit
of like, well, what if I'm curious about it?
What if I turn towards it and be like, yo, what's up?
What's your question?
And you will find it'll either run away.
Most of the time, these thoughts are not like literal people who will stay and argue with you.
They are like, oh, never mind.
Or, wow, I was just trying to help walks away, right?
So you have to move towards it with some willingness to be, and it takes some courage, right?
Because some of these thoughts are really scary for folks.
And recognizing it is neural firing, it is not you, but if we're sort of seeing it with curiosity and maybe even some compassion, like, okay, well, this, this dude came along when I started gaining weight and I didn't feel so good in my body. And so it's trying to save me from some of those feelings. That's, it does it abusively, thank you very much, but it doesn't know what else to do. Right. And that you can have compassion for a part of you that has to work that hard to try to help you feel.
good and so you could sort of just be like hey yo I'm good you know and so this is a very
simplified version of a lot of work I do with folks is that these parts got stuck very young parts
of us usually right let's take a perfectionist part okay it got stuck when we were a young
child and we were told something wasn't good enough or we could feel that if I just did
this better mommy seemed happy or you know we start to have these very young child
perceptions of being good enough, lovable, and for everything in our whole body to not be abandoned.
And then we take that and these thoughts, these little dudes and dudettes in our lives get built around that to keep us safe.
So that's the stay thin in this thin worshipping society or no one will love you.
or I mean, I guarantee we could survey everyone who's in the chat right now and every one of them
has heard a comment about weight and people's value and if they're lovable or not.
And they could tell me who told them that, who said it?
And they've probably said it themselves, right?
There is, that is built in.
And so sometimes this stuff is really hard to find out.
Other people might be able to say, oh, I have a very distinct memory of my, you know,
father saying how much he hated himself for blank and blank. So when a kid hears their parent who's
supposed to love them say something that you know, you take it in and you're stuck to go, well,
I got to live, base my life around some of these thoughts, right? So then it goes and goes and
goes and here we are in your midlife going, what? Why don't have these voices? Why do they wake me
up in the night, right? And so it is, it's one of the complexities of being a human with the way our
brain is structured currently, right? We have this frontal lobe that is just going, why are you nervous
right now? Let me make up something. And or you're tired or don't feel good. Great, let me show a video
about the worst thing in the world. You know, like it's trying to keep us safe, but it is not truly
tuned in to truly making us safe. On one hand, on the other hand, it does, right? We get the ick
when we see mold on food and don't eat it. Then we don't eat it and get poisoned and died.
like it does work obviously we're living but there's this side effect to it that is pretty negative
and it can be frustrating yeah well i i'm this has been fascinating because i'd never really thought of it
as this um it's almost like Picard and Q a little bit you know it's like Q get out of here what are you
doing right it's like an annoyance yeah yeah yeah and he's just toying with you and if you look at
toward how'd you say it thought the car do you feel towards it how do you feel towards it which is an interesting
interesting change to thinking, right?
About it and towards it are subtle and different.
Yeah.
And if you feel hate towards it, I would just encourage people to figure out how you can feel
curious or even some compassion for it.
That actually will make it soften, maybe even make it just walk away.
And so, Brian, here's your, here's your homework.
3 a.m. when you wake up, anyone that comes to visit you in the night.
Yes.
I want you to ask them how they're doing.
How are you?
How are you doing?
What's going on with you?
You need to get another puzzle done for rock puzzle monthly.
Yeah, before we get to that.
I want to see how you're doing.
Like if Tina just rolled over and said, Brian, I'm going to tell you all these things.
You would be like, are you okay?
Yeah, go back to sleep, dear.
Right.
No, it's true.
Check in.
How do you, we want to feel some compassion, some curiosity.
some care. And then what happens is these parts are like, holy crap, you see me. Since you were
eight, I've been really trying to help. Terrorizing you. Yeah. And this might sound crazy.
And then this is going to lead right into me tempting everyone is sometimes you find out these parts
still think you're eight years old. So one of the powerful things you can do, when I do this with
clients, it's always just mind blowing where these parts, you say, how old do you think I am? So you said to
the dude Scott, the next time there is food issue or whatever and it comes up or your 3 a.m.
Christmas past guy, ghost Brian, when these show up and you say, so real quick, before we
continue and you tell me all the ways I'm terrible, do you mind telling me how old you think I am
and just see what happens? Because what happens often is these voices or these parts of us,
these little dudes, they think we're kids. Yeah. They've been,
protecting you for so long.
And so you say, oh, no, dude, I'm 50. Hey, what's up?
And they're like, mah, and run away because they don't need to protect a 50 year old.
They need to protect a six-year-old.
Right.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So, anyway, it's fun stuff.
It's, you know, this is like high level therapy.
I'm trying to drag or smash into 30 minutes.
But, yeah.
There is a lot of interesting, you know, even just the JLP one thing proves the theory, which is, oh, so
chemically you can do something slightly different and a voice gets quiet wild right yeah so it is not
truth it isn't you it is a part of you that's a survival mechanism of your biology and there are
worse ways to deal with it and better ways and the better ways are actually really kind the worst ways
are punishing it wishing it would go away banishing you know the other is to invite it in have a chat
the last two or three times you've been here you said something a while ago about how we're just
bags of meat with hormones.
Yeah.
It feels like we're just every week we add a little bit to that evidence pile and just go,
yeah, we're just, you know, we're neurons and, and like, it's so easy to get caught up
in the human beings or a superior race of this and that, right?
But we're just, we really are just a bunch of signals firing.
We really are.
And in that, like, ego of thinking we're so special, we can be pretty awful to each other.
And the thing is some people might find this like, oh, this kills all meaning.
And then other people find it very meaningful, right?
Yeah.
To sort of take away, kind of to feel the smallness rather than feel the false giant ego.
Again, a systematic way to keep us thinking more important is helping us survive.
Yeah.
Right.
So it ain't easy in here.
But my neighbor the other day I was talking to her, she walked out of her house and she had a
cute t-shirt on that said
just be a decent person.
It's not that hard.
Yeah.
It really isn't.
It's not.
It's not hard at all.
Please,
please try to be nicer to everybody.
Please.
But part of why I think it's hard to be nice sometimes or to be our best selves
is that,
you know,
everyone's walking around getting interrupted with thoughts that are hard for them, right?
There's some real mean dudes in people's heads.
Yeah.
I feel like there's no voice.
is in anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And some people don't really have this.
I have very little of this and that's because I know how to deal with it.
Yeah.
No, that's right.
They have the tools to know what you're doing.
And that's the point here today, everybody.
Hopefully if you're hearing this, you're recognizing maybe a new tool in your little
toolbox.
Let's anthropomorphize it even further.
It's a toolbox.
You got a little tool in there.
It's a toolbox.
You work with the dudes and it's going to be good.
Okay.
So this leads to something that's coming up.
I have, we just finished.
This is the last week of the happiness.
class. And I think I haven't picked a date specifically, but I think the first or second Tuesday
in November, I'm going to do an hour and a half class on this alone. Oh, on just the inner critic.
I'm not calling it the inner dude, but maybe I should. I don't know. The inner critic and what
to do about it, how to take kind of what I talked about a little bit today and have it practically
applied to you so you can do this yourself and get some relief from this sort of constant
rating that sometimes these voices do to us.
Anyway, that's coming up.
So give me your email.
I promise I won't abuse it.
And I'll send a link out.
And I'll have a live one.
Yeah, no better you.com.
I forget to say that part.
It'll be live and I'll have some people,
I'll work with a person through one of theirs for the group and then they'll be able
to get it later as well.
Nice.
Anyway, I'll send an email.
Very, very nice.
Go take advantage of it.
Nobetteru.com.
that U is the letter you at the end.
Know better U.
It's very important.
It's also no like knowledge,
not know like NO.
Yeah, and when you have to explain it this much,
it's really effective for Mark.
It's super, super effective.
It's like naming your band, the, the.
All right.
Well, just kidding.
Wendy, that was awesome.
Listener, let us know how this makes you feel
and how your dude's doing.
And everyone, if you've got follow-ups about your dudes,
we'd love to hear them.
Yeah.
Wendy, have a great week.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you.
Bye now.
All right.
Brian,
we've come to the precipice of the end of the show.
That's right.
I'm going to read these quickly.
This is about the jugs of pee.
First one is a text from Ross who sent this in via the website,
frogpants.com slash TMS.
He says, just been listening to TMS 3097.
That was just two episodes ago or so.
Okay.
All right.
Or no, actually, I think it was this week.
3080, 30.
I think it was 3079 is what he meant.
He switched his numbers.
Okay.
Oh, that's true because we're not to 97 yet.
He's in the future.
Oh, shit.
Oh, no.
He's going to tell us what we're going to talk about.
Don't listen.
Oh, no, you guys.
Spoilers ahead.
Anyway, he says he was listening to yesterday's show.
And Tom mentioned a bladder float as being part of a toilet.
Okay.
So yesterday, yeah.
He says, I'm not sure about anywhere else in the world, but in New Zealand, we call that a ballcock.
Yeah.
That's what we call it here, too, really.
Yeah.
Ballcock is, I feel like shuttlecock and ballcock.
People knew when they named that.
what they were doing.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Anyway, how could anyone not know the incredible mature name for that part of the toilet cistern?
I like that you call it a cistern because that is what it is, but no one never calls it that here.
Anyway, live the show, though, fresh, beautiful create.
I assume you meant, meant to do that.
I assume that it was a typo.
I think the live the show though was a typo.
You think that was a typo?
I think so, yeah.
All right.
Well, he got the memo on the fresh, beautiful.
beautiful create thank you for that uh yeah it's a ballcock so i just couldn't think of it while
we were talking to tom for some reason and i i really liked bladder float i thought that sounded
yeah so i kind of like that too they're both they're both good names although put it in for changing
it if they wouldn't mind let's just whip it up bladder float uh to about bladder cock
bladder cock bladder cock why is that so fun to say it really is that alliterative i guess it
kind of is.
Blatter cock as you go from an R to a...
Isn't there a thing?
No, isn't there a thing? I know
literative is the first letters
are all the same. Right. What is...
Blatter bag would be alliterative.
What is it when it's just...
There's a word for the...
They might be rhythmic.
It's something like that.
We like our three syllable.
Da, da, da. Yeah. Blatter cock.
Yeah. It's fun to say.
Toots McLaren has a
beef. I would like to share his beef. This is a text from Coutts McLaren. Scott Apotomous and
brinosaurus. Brynosaurus. How would you say that? It's not saris. Brinoceros.
Oh, like a rhinoceros. Like rhinoceros, yeah. Dirk. That makes sense now. This is about the cups
of ice. He says, I will take the sound of ice clinking in Scott's cup all day. It's right here.
I don't have much in it.
Oh, yeah, you don't have the straw cup today.
No, but I've been very good about when I'm mute.
You have, yes, you've been very good about it.
He says, I'll take that all day in caps,
over one more instance of an e
being extended every time the opportunity presents itself.
The e!
Was funny the first half dozen times,
but now three years into the bit
has officially lost its humor due to the overuse of the joke.
I hereby request the discontinuation,
or at least significant reduction,
of use of the bit, please, he says,
tumultuous mischewed speech, Toots McLaren.
Here's the deal.
I'm sure when you ask us to do something less,
Tadpool is totally going to be like,
yeah, okay, let's start doing that less.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
We don't do it.
Right.
We choose the title, but.
Yeah, they put it in the titles.
We're not completely blameless.
And we favor it.
We like it.
Right.
But it's not like during the show in the,
middle of it we're like talking to tom or something and we suddenly go hey so tom where are you
gonna be this weekend we don't do that we just like this i don't like bees we like that
and it's stuck around so i don't know what to tell you man it's gonna it's probably going to happen
again all right i'm just warning you and it's i'm worried that all today's uh today's titles are
going to be oops all ease and that's the thing like we could easily do a title that says
Toots has beef. I mean, we could go. Oh, that's good. Yeah. You can go really far with this. All I'm saying is it's like five second intro. It's not, you know, you're all right, buddy. You got this, too. We only ever choose one. We might have, we even, we even didn't choose the second one yesterday, even though it was funny because we already had an E in there, even though both of them were very funny. Yeah, we're never going to do more than one. No. At a time. So you'll be all right, Toots. You'll be okay. Yeah. Let's get to the outro here.
Do like toots.
We'll even do that.
We'll break the rule on the ease if we have to.
We don't care.
Frogpants.com.com.
TMS for all your needs.
A couple of programming notes today.
You're going to go right after this into Coverville?
Yeah, right into Coverville.
Because I got to do some more house cleaning,
getting ready for Barry.
Oh, yeah, because Barry's coming over.
He's on the plane, yeah.
Very nice.
So Brian will be doing that.
So we'll do a raid.
So watch for that.
there's no core today because core was on Tuesday.
We did a special crossover episode with the grinding gear guys,
and that's how that went.
So you already have a show this week.
So that's not happening today.
There is, this is late breaking news.
No TMS Friday, I think,
last minute something could happen,
but I have to get a blood draw as part of my,
all this follow-up for all my other labs.
I'm doing that on Friday,
and the only time that could get me in just like cuts right in the fat
middle of the what would be the show.
So unless something changes and I've already put in, I've said to them,
hey, if something opens up either later today or tomorrow earlier or something like that,
let me know and they said they would.
So it's just a little on the teeter right now.
I don't know for sure.
I already told Brian, but I haven't had a chance to tell the rest of the world.
So there you go.
There's that.
Possibly you won't hear from us on TMS until Monday.
If there's no TMS, I'll hop on at nine and do guess the connection.
So there you go.
If there's no TMS, then they'll still be something that people can tune in for.
Yeah, and for people like Warforge is like so lame, Scott, we need a proper core.
Look, I know, I get it.
Schedules are a little tight, though.
We can't do two hours Tuesday, another four hours today.
Like, you know, we got to figure shit out.
The lives, people.
But it doesn't mean you won't get some extra core stuff.
Yeah, there's been some great, like, bonus core stuff.
Yeah, I did a thing yesterday about the new, the new Gears of War game, which is extremely impressive thus far.
we'll do you know you'll get some bits here and there over the weekend i can promise you that but don't worry
we'll be back on track you'll get your four hour you know beast next week it'll all be fine
which is perfect time because next week i think it's next week we get the that new castlvania game
that looks so amazing oh really cool i'm so excited i'm hoping to get some time um again to get
back into uh zero company because i i've been loving playing it but it has been it's been
impossible to get time to play it.
Two,
two banger,
uh,
Star Wars games in one year.
You got zero company and that new galactic racer game is really good.
Oh yeah,
looks really good.
It's very,
very good.
It's got a weird structure that it's going to,
I think some people are going to be caught off guard by the way the mission
structure works,
but the campaign anyway.
I haven't done any multiplayer,
but it is,
it's beautiful.
Oh my gosh.
And the sense of speed is like it's,
it's a bunch of X,
burnout people did it?
Yeah, that's what it...
Okay, yeah.
Burnout, I was getting a little bit of...
What was the great PlayStation,
original PlayStation game?
A wipeout?
Wipeout 1-2?
Or Excel?
Yeah, wipe out one of my favorite series ever.
Yeah, it's got...
I mean, it's...
There's a lot going on there.
It's not even...
It's set in a time I don't love.
I don't love the whole clones time.
Yeah, right.
But...
Zero company, same thing.
It's set in like the...
Right after the Clone Wars.
or whatever.
It's not my favorite era in Star Wars,
but both of these games do it extremely well within its limits.
Like, I'm starting to come around on it is what I'm saying.
I don't love the prequels, but there's been enough good content since then.
Yeah.
Like the Clone Wars cartoon is really good.
The Clone Wars cartoon is great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm coming around on it.
Anyway, what else?
That's it.
Keep me post.
I mean, you will.
Oh, yeah.
I'll let you know for sure.
Because Barry and I will probably go out to breakfast tomorrow morning.
so I'm gonna send him off to Fort Collins.
Yeah, I'd love to give you a nice wide berth on that,
so I'll let you know.
I'll know today.
Okay, cool.
That's it.
Let's get out of here.
Let's play a song.
Yeah, yeah.
How about this one going out to Renee?
Renee says,
Hi, Scrub and Brush.
I don't think this is Renee Valentine.
They just say Renee.
I think it's somebody else.
I've been waiting a long time to say this.
I'm turning the answer to life,
the universe, and everything this month.
I'm even throwing myself,
the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy-themed party.
We'll have towels, goldfish crackers,
to represent babblefish,
babblefish, don't stick them in your ears,
and toy mice to experiment on us.
I mean, watch us.
This is probably sacrilege to you,
but I'm just not a big music person.
Oh, I know.
Brian, it burns, it burns!
I know, exactly.
So there's not a song or cover that I really love.
My husband recommended Blue by the Browning,
but I know Brian would hate it.
Then my brain went the British route
because of Douglas Adams being British, so I thought a cover of a queen's song would be good.
I'll defer to Brian's expertise for the song choice, but please, no country.
Love of the Snow Cone, Renee. P.S. Scott, can you please play? There's a hole into roof sound clip.
My husband and I say that a lot in our house.
Oh, my gosh. That's an oldie bit of goody. It is. It's appropriate with the roof talk today.
Yeah, let's see if we can get it here. A roof.
Here we go. There's a hole in.
the roof.
Wrong one.
Wow.
That's the old, that's a new one and that's why I captured it.
Oh, here it is.
There is a hole in the roof.
There it is.
Oh, that's great.
Old school, man.
There's a hole in the roof.
Record it, by the way, 2010 before this show even started is when that.
Yeah, that was, uh, Django, the original Django.
Yeah.
Crazy.
I think so.
I think that was it.
Uh, PPS.
I don't remember why I'm supposed to include three random words, but I'm a real follower.
So, Bell, Sunwatch.
Perfect.
You did it.
Yeah.
That, uh, just fine.
All right, a good cover of a queen song.
Queen is a band that people love to cover,
and some of them even do it well.
This one came out on a 2024 tribute to Shear Heart Attack,
one of my favorite Queen albums.
And people, you know, different bands covered each of the songs from that album.
The album opens up with a cover of Brighton Rock by the Nifty's,
which is how the original Brighton Rock was the lead track on Shear Heart Attack as well.
And what's cool about this one is it kind of reminds me of another song that maybe was kind of an iconic grunge song.
But, you know, I'll let you decide.
Here are the Nifty's and Brighton Rock.
Is part of this procedure.
Yeah, gross, right?
