The Morning Stream - TMS Hangout!

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

Just Scott, the chat, and Brian Dunaway for a visit!Video Version: https://youtu.be/p8s4UFRQJsE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey guys, Scott here. Just to give you a little heads up, today's show is very different. Brian had an appointment. So he was out today. And I decided to just kind of hang out with the chat, talk, answer some questions, real casual affair. And then about halfway through Brian Dunaway joins me. And we have some good nostalgic talk about some old toys. And it's a really fun time.

It's just very different, though. So if you're coming in here expecting, you know, the TMS intro song and us doing our normal thing and all that, well, you know, it's not going to have. But it is fun and we had a good time. So enjoy the next hour. It's nice and chill. And you're welcome to be here. Yeah, nothing formal here today, nothing special. Just hanging out.

So I thought it'd be fun. If you guys had any questions about nerdtacular or frog pants or any of the shows in particular or really anything, you know, no, no question avoided. Um, fix my camera a little bit. So let's, uh, let's just start with Wicked Kitten's question about how am I? I am okay. I am getting over this cold. And, um, I'll be glad when it's behind me because it's really, you know, been a bit of a pain.

Um, really it's just, right now, it's just stacked with stuff I got to get done. All the normal stuff every day. A book project that we just, we have to do. I've got a bunch of commissions I've got to worry about. And then nerdacular planning is up to my freaking earlobes in terms of just time commitment. As you guys know, because of the unsure state of things in the world, it has had an adverse effect on primarily foreign attendees. Prominently among them,

the biggest chunk of people that I'm seeing that this has made skittish and I don't blame them is Canada or Canadian listeners. And we usually get a really good number of Canadians that like last year we're all fired up to ready to rock and then, you know, just say it's been a hell of an eight or nine months or whatever it's been. And so there's some stress around that, just trying to figure out how to cover the contract, but also, you know, it's just stuff.

Stuff you guys probably don't want to hear. It's all good. We're going to have a great time. And it's not about whether it's happening. It is happening. It's all happening. but the question is on the other side of it, how will I end up being?

I don't know. But be nice if maybe, I don't know, maybe these, quote unquote, peace talks slash ceasefire thing. Again, not getting into the politics of it. That was definitely having an adverse effect on fuel prices, which was having another. knock-on effect on people who were still coming, traveling, but hadn't gotten plane ticket chet, and then now we're looking at, like, much bigger price tags for plane tickets. And so there's

just all this stuff, man. Stuff I can't really control. That's the worst part of it. It'd be one thing if it was like, uh, Scott, it's that mole on your forehead, you know, can't come to this event with that thing looking at me. You know, at least I could go, oh, well, I can cover that or I can wear a hat, or I can, I can, uh, cut it out, you know, carve it out with a little nice. knife or something. Let it heal. Be all good by June. It's stuff outside of my control and reach that I can't control. And in most normal years, things are just, you know, they're fine.

They're just their usual sort of whatever. But now it's like, yeah, whoa, shit. Yeah, down, like that. I don't like it. It's making it hard. But, uh, Anyway, hard at work at it. Going to make it work.

Going to make it happen. What's happening no matter what? That part is not. There's no question about that part. We are having this event. It's going to be great. For those who come, we're going to have a great time. We've got everything we need to do the event itself.

Just check on me in July, will you? Anyway. Other than that, doing okay. Let's see. What else did I missed one? Wicked Kitten. Luke says, I don't see, this is such a Luke thing to say.

I don't see how Canadians have anything to worry about. I mean, I guess if you're not paying attention to what's happening at border entry and with people who may be less white than Luke and I, it's how much attention we're all paying, I guess. Let's see, I missed a bunch of these.

Okay, we got right here. Let's see, I would love to know if you're still really enjoying the Midnight expansion. Yes, Discordia dog. quite am enjoying it. I have, what is he now? I level two, 51 or two, something.

My raid-capable, warlock is good. Although, you know, you have that initial burst when the thing comes out and you just get to 90 and you do all your stuff and you start working on in-game and you go kind of crazy with it. And then you raid one or two weeks and then, things kind of level out some and so i'm not in there all the time partly because i'm swamped but but also because this is just the pattern you know that you get with an expansion and when a new big major patch comes out uh and the weekly resets often have new stuff i get in there and you know

do stuff right now though i know some of you don't want to hear me talk about games um it wasn't clicking with me for a good week and a half. But then suddenly it did. And now I'm ready, I'm ready to say that I think, unless something crazy happens in the rest of the year, something's big and surprising from some game. Crimson Desert is so freaking good. I don't even know why I think it's so good now. But it took a while.

At first I was like, I'm not feeling this game. What's wrong with me? Everyone else seems to be having a great time. What's wrong with me? wrong with me. Then some of the reviews are mixed. I'm like, oh, okay, well, I'm not the only one. It turns out you just have to let that IV get into your blood a little bit, and then you're screwed. That game is a, no time for that either. I wish it ran on my Steam deck. Do that in bed. Let's see. I-Corps says, what's your social security number? Well, it's 312, 573.

9014. That's a random number. Maybe that's somebody social though. I think you could guess somebody's by just saying a number because there's enough of them. You know, 400 million social security numbers or whatever it is. Just bark off a random stream of numbers and you end up being somebody.

Did I just dock somebody terribly? I don't know. If I did, I did so unaware. All right. Let's see. If we watch a show, can we, what if we watch a show can be something from this decade? I don't know what you mean, Luke.

I courted, do you watch the new Darth Mall show? Not yet. How is it? I have desires to see it. I have questions, but I do want to see it. I currently don't have Disney Plus. They pissed me off when they did that whole Kimmel thing.

so I canceled them. And they came crawling back going, please let us come back. I said, and I said, give me a deal on maybe a Hulu, because I get more stuff off Hulu anyway. So they did.

I'm getting Hulu for like three bucks a month, ad free right now. But I haven't re-uped to Disney. But I do want to see it. I'm sure it's exciting stuff for the prequel lovers out there who loved their Star Wars when it was perhaps at its less than best. But who knew the modern ones would actually peter out as hard as they did.

So I don't know. Maybe we'd look at the prequels more lovingly now. Also, Darth Mall is genuinely awesome. If you're going to take all your villains from the history of the Star Wars franchise, Vader's an easy choice, right? And I think you've got to go like Vader, mall Boba Fett

that he's complicated let's say OG Boba Fett like before he knew much about him you know back when Hans Sulla was blind saying Boba Fett Boba Fett and then boy I put Jabba right up there and then just some of the Nazi human guys

on the imperial side those guys are bastards eat yogurt says Luke no let's see Josh 3.0 when are you coming to visit Wendy and Raven and I. A trip to Minnesota is definitely in the future. We had originally talked, well, as you know, things happening in Minnesota, kind of, at least temporarily, kind of kiboshed a preliminary plan Wendy and I had for like a fall,

Midwest meetup type thing. We are still going to do that at some point. but that really did that really did put a put a stopper in there for a minute for hell's sakes I hate this stuff um sounds like you get pulled in million directions yeah five million directions that's about right it does feel that way but I'm not here to come I'm not complaining guys nobody wants to hear somebody whine about shit so I'm not going to do that um for us we considered selling a digital ticket with streaming we have uh the problem is that in years past, we always just sort of made the stream available. And I don't want to nickel and dime people.

And then also we have to partner with somebody to do this because Twitch, YouTube and all the major streamers, they don't have a way for us to tie Nerdtacular into any of that and have a paywall. There's just no built-in way to do it. You can do, you know, unlisted links on YouTube and stuff like that. So you have to partner with somebody who offers this particular service. There's a few of them out there that do. They all take ridiculous percentages of your ticket.

And I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know. We thought about it. It still could be a thing we do, but I, you know, I don't know. We're trying to, we're trying to do this in a way that doesn't put the burden on the people who already support us so much. I don't want to, I don't want to make it harder for them.

Let's see. I-Corps. If I didn't live here, I wouldn't come to the U.S. Yeah. What I'm saying, man. I don't blame those. Like, I get that it's possible. It's actually possible for us to be maybe too,

what's the word? Not paranoid, but just like, you know, the anxiety it creates for some people, it may be less founded for some than others. But then I hear myself say that, and I realize what I'm saying is, well, if you're a white guy from France, you've got nothing to worry.

But you know what I mean? That's bad. That's part of the problem. And I know it's not so simple. It isn't just simply you look different. It's also that you may look different, which will prompt them to check paperwork, which will prompt them to screw up,

which prompts them to put you in some kind of, yeah, I don't want that. for anybody involved in my life. I can't imagine that. So I guess what I'm saying is I have, I have major disappointment in the knock-on effect of this, but I don't feel that way toward anyone who's making that decision. I fully get it, fully.

And I judge not. My timing's just bad. That's all. 2020 and all that, hindsight, you know, I would have done it different. but let's see have we ever considered Nurtacular in International Waters? Yeah, we were going to do a Canadian thing one year.

Just could never make that financially work. Outside of Canada, I don't know. I don't really, I mean, no matter what, if I can get my ass to Europe at some point, there'll be meetups and stuff, you know, like official like, hey, everybody, we're doing this at such and such a place and on a Friday, whatever, like that. that's happening whenever that happens. I don't know when that would be, but, I mean, again, Luke, think about this from your perspective.

Of course, some of this is hyperbole and a lot of it and drama. But make sure you're not just looking at it from your eyes. It's not as simple for guys like me and you. That's all I'm saying. All right. Sarah next, if John gave you the option to help you through scary segments of Resident Evil 9 in exchange for an F bomb, would you do it? Well, clearly I did. That was embarrassing. Wasn't it? Super embarrassing. But I did it nonetheless. I just liked my streak. I liked that I was

holding hard to the streak and that it was never going to, you know, I was never going to, it just wasn't going to happen. I like my streaks, as you guys know. All right, we're going to do something a little different right this minute. And that is, welcome to the program Brian Dunaway. Hi, Brian. Hi, Scott. Oh, listen to you all deep and sexy. Well, I'm just matching your energy. Oh. You know, I do.

That is my energy today. It is sometimes when I do my solo streams, I'm the same way. Sometimes I come in hot and sometimes I'm just like, well, there's nobody else here. I'm just going to set my own energy. Yeah. I think that's, I have to, you know, you got to be who you are on any given moment. And today I'm just, I'm like, I'm sick of this cold, freaking get out of my system entirely. Absolutely.

I'm out of here. It got like way better yesterday and now I've just held into that whatever zone that is and it won't leave that final bit like that last 20% get the F out. I got to say you sound like you're at a place where you're so sick of being sick that maybe you're not even stressed out because it's just like you know what? Just take me. Take my body. At some point you have to be like that, you know?

Yeah, just take it. It's like these nerdtacular struggles. It's like, you know, trying to deal with international politics. politics and run an event where you want your international friends to come. And at some point you'd have to go, all right. Well, whatever it's going to be, it's going to be. Yeah. We got this one life.

Let's live it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, down here on Earth, you're right. There doesn't be a lot of international squabbling. But in space, on the Artemis 2, we got international cooperation. Yeah. And, you know, heading back to the moon after 50.

50 years. Can you believe that? Isn't that crazy? Well, not on the moon, but yeah, flying around it. Yeah, yeah, flying around it, go and check it out, see what's going on. Taking some real cameras up there, not the bullshit we used to have. And also making sure that nothing's changed. Yeah. Make sure there's

no suddenly aliens, you know, making sure that's the thing, right? Yeah, what would you, what do you think we'd do if we suddenly went? Oh my gosh, what is that weird silver thing parked on the surface there? What is that? It looks like it's transforming. And it's, we, no, but Yeah.

On the far side of the moon, yeah, you worry about that. Yeah, you know what's funny is that there are probably a whole generation or more of people because of Pink Floyd. Yes. Who thinks that the dark side of the moon is always, there's one dark side and it's always dark. That's what they think. That isn't how it works. Let me tell you something as the guy who wears a dark side of the moon shirt occasionally on stream. Yeah.

I thought the same thing until this past week. I've learned a lot. So, you know, when I was young, the last time we've been to the moon was, you know, like, what, 72? That was the year I was born, Scott. So, you know, I got some information along the way, but I wasn't living it, right? I wasn't there. And so I was born. You know, I was born on, oh, I forget you're exactly my wife's same age.

I forgot that. Yeah, yeah. It's like I'm sleeping with Brian, Brian. You're not going to lose my coffee. Thank you, but no. I was like I was just going to say oh I was so I was born in 69 on the week that we put foot on the moon so they literally stood on the moon and went one small man man kind of that whole thing happened while whilst I'm in the hospital suckling at my mother's teat yeah yeah yeah probably she probably could have cared one one bit less about people on the moon right no she was not interested my dad was super good though she was very local. Yeah. She was very local at that

moment. She's like, I got a little baby. I made life suck that. My dad's watching, you know, Kronkite or whoever it is. It was back when we had good, you know, good news anchors that cared about us. Plus because we only, we didn't have to watch it 24-7, right? Yeah. We just get a little

cronkite. And it is, you know, a little in the afternoon, right? Biao says, I was about to ask if Scott was breastfed, don't need to ask him now. Yeah. Answered. That's all he did.

back then kind of right i mean i know there were exceptions but it was the dominant you didn't run straight to formula i think back then i think you oh i don't know uh we we did a lot of um we did a lot of science advancements in the 50s and 60s especially when it come to uh to managing uh you know the baby boom right so yeah i i think we were probably formulaific pretty well by that point yeah we got somebody here asking if there's any other 1991 births out there, anubus 2442. Look, 91 was a good year. That was the year I,

let's see, what would I have been? 20, 21. Nice. Something like that. And I, that was the year I asked. No, that can't be right. Because I got married late 92. Anyway, it was around then that Kim and I were dating and it was good.

That was a great time. Yeah. Yeah. Shotgun wedding. Is that, is that what we're saying? Yeah, for sure. I had knocked her up, of course. And although it was weird. It was like a three-year, it's like a three-year gestation. I don't know what it took so long.

It took three years for it to. Yeah. Just took a while to stick. Thanks, Carter. Yeah. Well, it's actually Taylor first. Oh, was it Taylor? I'm sorry.

Carter is so dominant in the frog pants lens. No, I don't feel terrible. No, don't feel terrible. Right. Look, Tays, she's fine. She's busy raising two kids. Yeah, in my defense, you are, you know, your Utah family. So, you know, yeah, you never, you actually really, you never know.

In an effort to keep prices low and housing prices even lower, please believe all the stereotypes that you can so that we can stop having all these. I feel like I'm anti-immigration, but I'm really talking about the immigrating rich people from California. That's really who I'm talking about. And they're all white. If they could slow their role, that'd be great. I have a local friend, five kids, and has no, as far as I know, no religious affiliation, just, just like a bunny. We are, we are known for that here.

Like, there is a, in terms of like, a population, population percentage that are under 18, we are, we lead the nation for sure. And we, as far as I know, we always have, because there's a huge emphasis culturally and religiously, which some of that culture falls off from, even if people aren't in, you know, part of the. the ecosystem of the church. There's just this expectation. Like, I'll tell you a funny story. Give me a funny story. There's a funny story for you. And then we actually have some video fun for you folks here in a minute.

Here in a second. Speaking of space. We'll get to that in a sec. Space. When, oh, Hammond, Tammons turn in 71. No, I'm sorry, you're born in 71. And he's having a birthday in two weeks. God, bless America, he looks good for 71.

Yeah, he looks amazing for 71. Geez, Louise. 71's the new 32. Holy crap. Anyway, so, I don't know why I said that. I knew he wasn't 71. Sick, man. You're just, you're just dragging in here, man.

You just do what you can. He just got back from London, though. So he probably smells like weird potatoes and stuff. I don't know. Right. So maybe you think it's the jet lag that makes him look 71. Is that what you're? Could be.

Could be. All right. Okay. Okay. So what was I going to say? I forgot. Oh, you was going to tell us a, uh, story about the from from your location i will tell you this i i laugh every time we watch a lot of

murder shows oh i know what it was k kikikon to go ahead and finish i remember right i'll come back to it go right we'll watch a lot of murder shows in my house as would be expected um of our age group uh and it always makes me laugh and always think of you whenever there's uh utah people on there because there's they're always like the most clean-cut people and it's like instead of getting a divorce they decided to go with murder yeah they go with murder instead or whatever Yeah, you watch that Frankie, what's it, Ruby Frankie thing? I'm telling you, Springville's like this quiet, dinky water town just north of Provo. And it's like a thousand percent white and boring.

And yet it's like the biggest freaking murder case. Yeah, yeah, it's because it's like there's no way out. It's like there's just too much external pressure on your marriage to go. I think divorce would be a logical. next step. I know they just go, maybe if I just murder them, maybe just get away with it.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I will say that Springvale has an amazing local sticker maker that we use for all our stickers. I freaking love these guys. They're awesome. Yeah.

Anyway, here's the story I was going to tell you. My mother-in-law, rest her soul, passed away just a few weeks ago, a month ago, whatever it was. She did this thing one time.

I'll never forget it. So she was very, very, very. wouldn't say fundamentalist, but very hardcore. She's from the South, which has already kind of, you know, got some hardcore tendencies about kind of identity. And then she, when they moved out here in 2005, 06 or whatever, brought a lot of that weather.

Plus, she was just devoutly Mormon. And she believed very strongly. Everybody should have as many kids as you could. Just keep crapping them out until your body stops doing it. That was kind of her thing. Right. And, you know, we already had three kids. kids and Kim and I made a decision that that was we liked that that was good that was our number

that's a good size it's a good size it's not crazy huge although in some circles it still seems like a lot of kids but you know whatever for us it fit um and meanwhile i got friends doing five six you know whatever yeah we half a dozen two dozen whatever we had one we had a family lived down the street from us they had a converted barn that they used for part of their house and they had eight kids in there. Good Lord. They were really raising cattle, it sounds like. Kind of, except they're really good kids. They were awesome kids.

What choice you have? You can't act out there. What are you going to do? You're not going to get fed if you act out. It's true. I'm not sure why it worked out that well. But they were just happy. But anyway, obviously, you know, the life, that life is not for everybody.

Having kids at all is not for everybody. Like, this is never an issue for us. We were never like, how come people aren't having more kids? And we were just like, here are our kids. We are, he's, we're raising these kids done. We don't care what other people do. And so. Quality over quantity.

Right. Right. Yeah. We only cared that our kids were, you know, that we were trying to be good parents. That was it. And so at one point, they're all young and little. Nix may be only a couple years old, two, three years old. And we're all over at some family thing.

And Kim's mom is sitting on a, on a chair out in this yard by this pond. And I come out there. And her other. daughter, Kim's sister had adopted a baby because they couldn't have kids. So they adopted a couple kids, three kids. And at the time they had this brand new. I know where some are in a

barn if you can pick up. Yeah, I know exactly. You just go down to that barn and get you, they won't even notice. Right. So you got to get me a baby high. It's just like that movie, man. There's enough Nathan Jr.'s in there to solve everything. So anyway, she goes, she goes and she's holding this new baby, this brand new. She's very young, but she's,

she's not a newborn, but she's, I think she's probably under six months old. Right. And she's on her lap and I sit down there with him and I'm like, I go, oh, you want to come to me? And she, and I reach out and grab her and I hold her on my knee a little bit and look at her. And then she just starts crying because this is what babies do. They don't like changes. If they see a face, they're not used to, they freak out. This is normal stuff.

I go, oh, you're bored thing. And I hand her back to my mother-in-law. My mother-in-law then says, this is not speaking ill of the day. dead, okay, everybody. But my mother, this is to give you an idea on the mindset some people can get.

My mother-in-law says, well, you know why she's crying. And I said, oh, jeez, no. I go probably because her mom's not here and I look freaky with my hair and I'm kind of got a beard going and stuff. Probably that because she doesn't know me.

And she goes, no, no. She's fresh from, from the, the line that forms to create life. and some words like that. And she says, she says she was there with all the others. And when her time came to go down, those that you're not having now because you think

you're done are upset. She's turned those screws so slow. I love it. So she says that the kids that we would have, but we selfishly stopped having kids at three, those four or five others up there that would probably put Kim in the freaking surgical ward for the next 10 years. They're up there going, oh, no, we can't come down now.

And that little Anna knew this. And so she's expressing frustration to me on my lap that I won't bring these other kids down from wherever she left. That is a unique kind of guilt. I don't think I have ever experienced. Oh, she was so good at it. She was so good at it.

Now, I never bought into it. Like I, by buying into it, I mean, I never, I never let it even affect me. When she would say that stuff, I'd just go, silly, dumb, all right, moving on. And I would say it out loud. I had no problem with that. That was my relationship with her. Right. But there's always this thing where all of her kids, and they had many.

They had, let's see. If you count the three boys they adopted, they had 10 kids total. All right. Right. They had a baby die nine months old or something in an accident with a, what do you call it a, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

That's horrible. It's pretty rough. Kim found him too. It was really rough. She was only eight or six or seven or eight and the baby was basically strangled to death in a, in a, what do you call it? What do you call it? What do you call it a thing?

Crib, crib, my gosh. That is, I have, you've never shared this story with me. I know. Let me tell you when I found out about this story. Right. When I, when Kim and I were, we had got married and we were thinking about having the first kid like Taylor we were like all right let we got to get a crib don't we that's what adults do let's go find a crib yeah so we go crib shopping and I'm all poor and broke and going we got to get

the cheapest crib possible right and she's like nope and I'm like what do you mean she goes come with me and we go to these places and she's like looking at these like higher end cribs and even then she's like getting down on her knees and grabbing legs shaking them and moving stuff and she's like checking the integrity and the strength of all the parts and pieces and Scott, Scott, come here and put your head right here. I got to see something. Yeah. Yeah. And so I said, why are you, are you okay? This is intense. And that's when she told me the story. Nobody had told me until then. I had no idea. So she has some, that's how she dealt with it. She's like, well, I'm never going to let that happen. So anyway. That's how the Johnson's got the highest

model of crib, but the babies are us. Yeah. And her and then, um, the same baby that passed way far obviously too young at nine months or whatever was. His name was Russell. And Russell, his birth was so rough that her mother technically or clinically died on the table for about it was like eight minutes or something. Wow. And then and that's when, you know, they finally had to say, oh, we're better stuff having kids. Like they just had this, they had this thing where they said to me. So she was like trying to guilt me with her little imaginary story about there are children up there waiting for you.

Well, I'd be honest, I would probably get back on on a Friday night and, you know, get the old egg and the sperm eating up and get going there with that. Well, Kim's, Kim's baby area is not an open door, all right? For whiny kids waiting in line, all right? Right. Right, right, exactly. That's, I mean, look, we loved, and they're here, I just kind of went with Kim's intuitions. Because when she, when she, we first said, let's talk about having a baby, she was like, yeah, ready to do it. Let's go.

She had a plan. Yeah. And she was super, super cool about it. And it was an amazing pregnant person. I don't know how else to say it. She's just very great pregnant person, meaning she was just positive and stoked. She is great overall. I don't deserve her.

Yeah, you really. Um, and then talk about it all the time. And then when the second, it was time for that we were doing three years apart. That was the plan. Yeah. And the third year comes. And she's like, all right, time for the next one. I'm like, sweet.

So Carter gets made. And, or no, she has a miscarriage. And then Carter stuck. Then three years later, Nick to work on him, miscarriage, then Nick. We don't know why we had these in between miscarriages. It was weird. But then after the third one, I remember this conversation. I went, all right.

well, what do you think about it? When you're thinking about number four? You know, what are we doing? She's like, no, we're good. Like, okay. You know who should get to decide that or have the bigger decision? The freaking woman in your life, dude, they should get to choose. Yes.

Dudes forcing, forcing their, not forcing, whatever, coercing or demanding or pressuring. Pressuring any of that. Yeah. You got to make me more, I need my boys for the ranch or whatever. Can't do that. Not, not, okay, so not the way we live today, right? I mean, like, maybe an argument in 1800s.

It's like, hey, we got a pretty, pretty high death ratio over here. We're going to need somebody to work the farm. Yeah, we're losing six kids, six. We've lost six of them to the, to the plague or whatever. We need. Right, right, right. Yeah. Those are very different times.

Not in our current climate. I don't think. I don't think so either. And even then, even then, it's still, no matter what, this should be a thing where, if the woman wants to have kids, she should, she should have, she's the prerogative, not me. Right.

So, so when this was all done, I went, oh, what a great thing to have, that kind of like, sense of timing. Like,

she just had it, she had this intuition or this feeling that this is it. And this is where, this is exactly how, how we should be, where we should be, and what we did.

And I, and I always really like that, because you ask me if I know what's going on any given second in my life. And I'm like, I don't know. It's freaking everything's all over the place. I have no idea. Is it time? Is three enough?

I don't know. Was three too many? Is the house on fire? Where's the chicken? This is me. This is how I work. Right. So anyway.

I'm very mathematical. So I'm like two adults, two kids. Let's stop it there. That's good math. Yeah. It's good math. Because you know what that is? That's man.

Because that is man to man to man. you can deal with that. If you have a third one, then I had to go to zone. And that's hard. Zone defense is hard, man. I still love, I loved. I love, a lot of people are like, Scott, you spent a lot of your 20s raising kids. I loved it.

It was so, I'm not saying this for everybody, okay? Because I know there are clearly people out there that should use their 20s to freaking burn out on 50 drugs and then finally settle down. I get it. I'm not prescribing this for anybody, not saying that I did it right and everyone else did it wrong. I'm just here to tell you that for me, it was the most fun, energetic time of my life. I loved seeing my kids every day when I got home, spending as much time with them as possible. Weekends were insane.

I loved my kids. Loved raising them. Same. And I never once went, oh, what could have been when I was 26 instead of doing the big diaper change? I could have been at the club snorting coke off somebody. you know, but or whatever. None of that ever. I'm curious, I love this fictitional person you're imagining that that does want to do that. Yeah, somebody somewhere, someone somewhere does, but it's probably less than a percent of people.

Yeah. I find that most people, if you have an addiction or something that has derailed your life, if you have a child, and I'm not saying to do this to correct your course, but if it does happen in a child appears, and you can't make the shift away from those bad habits, you're probably I'm going to never get over those habits because a child is a big game changer. Yeah, it is a huge deal. And if you don't want to have, let me address this thing from Claire in the chat. She goes, just because I'm not shitting out a child. I know, it's a dangerous thing.

We try to avoid it these days. It says, just because I'm not shitting out a child that was forced into me, I'm just sat at home doing drugs. No, let me, let me clarify. That's why. Let me, let me clear. Let me clarify what I mean. I don't care if your desire is to just simply never have a kid and do whatever you want.

Like if your goal is, I'm going to go home today and pour salt on a lizard and see what happens. Well, probably don't do that. But you know what I mean? Don't hurt other creatures what I'm getting at. I'm saying do whatever. Live your life. No one should tell you what to do. That's all.

Yeah, not even Scott Johnson on this here show. I didn't say you weren't doing drugs in your 20s, Claire. I didn't bring you up at all. Why is this, why is Claire making this about Claire? You know what? I did it. I poked the bear.

Why did I do it? You, you cloak, what's crazy is her and I agree right now. Like, we actually agree on the point of it, which is no woman should be forced to have children, but she's making it worse.

Why am I doing that? I poked the Claire. I'm not poking her anymore. All right. So, back to fun Brian let's talk about space do you want to play we should play this now Brian found

this thing do you want to explain this what is this absolutely so me and Scott before the play retro show every week we do a pre-show and we look at some old commercials usually based around the theme of something this kind of happening currently and just kind of go back and take a look at dumb commercials and that's what we're going to do

today because right now we've got Artemis 2 going around the moon they did the farce of the moon what was it yesterday And so back when I was growing up, I could still feel the vibes from the space race that was going on and going to the moon. And so I looked up what might inspire toy companies to make toys for kids that were seeing these moon landings at the time. So I think we're going to take a look at some of these toys that were space inspired, trying to inspire the next generation for kids. And you got like four and a half minutes of the time. this. It's not that long. And we're going to talk about, we just want to see some of these.

This is, so speaking of 69, this is when me and Brian Abbott were born. Yeah. Or is a certain person in the chat says when we were shit out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get to this one. Major. Clear class. 1969, Major Matt Mason toy commercial. Here we go. Matt Mason, save us. Meet Major Matt Mason, Matt Mason, Matt Mason, Mattel's man in space. and the bravest astronaut yet. He lives on the moon. We may all be there soon, and he gets around.

Until Sergeant Storm in his red uniform, Major Matt worked all alone. Now together to face the dangers of space. And seek to learn the unknown. The machines that they drive seem almost alive as they translate. I got a question. Oh, I know you're... I already have 20 questions.

Well, I got a bunch of questions, but the main one is, um, so this, you know, I'm totally, commercials I grew up with them as like, hey, it's Castle Gray Skull and here's here's, here's he man or here's some Star Wars stuff and here's a replica of the, I don't know, Death Star all kind cut out in half or whatever. This thing, they went all out in the surrounding environment. Like, this looks like a space planet. Usually it looks like somebody's backyard. But look at all this. I know you can't see this. You're on the head. I can see them. I'm watching. You're getting a delay, right? a little bit. Yeah, well, I'm getting delayed, but I've watched the commercial several times already.

And I will tell you, your observation is pretty good because I don't think I made that observation until the very end. commercials from the 60s were different, especially with these big play sets and things. And wait to get to the very end of this commercial and you're like, where the hell are these kids? Are they aliens? Yeah, because where they live, it feels like they shouldn't be allowed to be. It's kind of like a, you know those spaghetti westerns where you're like, Like, where's that rock formation? That doesn't exist in this planet.

It's because it's somewhere in Italy you've never seen or been. And it's like that. It's like, where are these kids? Where they meet Captain Laser. His space gear are blaze. Holy shit. Captain Laser. He's a giant.

It's true. That took a turn. A friendly one who spent his boyhood on Mars. They're friendly one. Hold on a minute. So he's a Martian. He's a little Martian, man. So we started out with with Major Tom.

No, major Matt Mace. who's alone on the on the moon working by himself now he's got a friend to come to find out he has another friend has nothing to do with toy sales and keeping adding characters to it but they added some 12-minute's GI Joe figures as well from and called him a Martian and I don't know how he fits in but I definitely want the comic book yeah no no it goes along yeah wherever there's a big giant Martian I'm I'm we're Scott he's right there ready for that here's more look at this kid in his turtleneck this is great an exciting place

The world of space. Dude, where do these kids live? This world is swell. It's made by Matt. Oh, look where all the adults are the adults are back there. The shadows of the adults are having like a party? Where do these kids live? Where are they at?

Are they like in a backyard at like some swingers party? And they're like, hey, you kids go out back. Yeah. Play with your major Matt Mason Tom toys. Yeah, no. The dude, the people over there, they're discussing who gets which wife first. I'm telling you that's happening over there. That's weird.

I don't like it. The parents are definitely drunk in the house. But I do like this little stage said, though. It's freaking beautiful. Oh, one of them is a Mattel logo. Holy shit. Yeah, look at that. Yet the one of them, the moon, is a Mattel logo.

So, yeah. And also, I like the Mattel is trying to be hip there too. I thought they say, what was the, you got to get hip hip hip with Mattel. What was it? It was something fancy. Get hip with Mattel or go home trying. I can't remember. Something like that.

Hasbro, G.I. Joe, remember these guys? They had mustaches. You could feel, you know. It was like big tall guy, multiple points of articulation. They weren't the, you know, we're not talking about. Don't think your seven-inch toys. Like, we all play with the whole bunch of all that. No, this is the old 12-inchers that came in the, in the cardboard box and had the real life like. Yeah, no, no, no desk, no, no, the twins that, that finish each other's sentences or whatever they were.

Nobody ever. Yeah, none of that. This is back when Joe was the real deal. Check it out here. The Talking Joe. Now that mankind is on the threshold of the galaxies, a new hero has come forth to lead us into the future. Wow. Introducing the new G.I. Joe astronaut. He has life-like hair and talks the language of tomorrow.

Wait a language of tomorrow. He has life-like hair and uses the language of tomorrow. That was the tagline. He speaks to the language of tomorrow. And first, and next off, I got to say, he looks more like a, uh, a, uh, taking a karate class than an astronaut. Yeah, I don't know. Nobody's wearing this cloth thing at the space.

Forget it. This is no Ryan Gosling in Project Helmary here. Anyway, here we go. 10 seconds to lift off and counting. Oh, that's the voice of the future. That's the language of the future I just heard. Fantastic. Go with him on tearing missions like the flying space rescue.

Get the new G.I. Joe talking astronaut and collect astronaut. What? You set. G.I. Joe astronaut. Why is the J so low? What did they do? You got it. You got to dot it. You got the J to, you got to dot it with the head. You don't think that's a hidden P. So it says Jip Joe. Do you see that? Could be. Yeah, I go. Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Jip Joe or Gip Joe.

Gip Joe. It does like a, oh, that is so weird. I don't care for that at all. Yeah, now it's going to bug you every time you see it. So these, these fuzzy-headed G.I. Joe got dolls were pretty great. Oh, yeah. Even if they did a, yeah, and if they were a little bit weird with their karate outfits. Mine, uh, mine, the Barbie, my sister's Barbies would lock their door when this guy would come around. They were like, oh, absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, the pink Ferrari. Is that what it is? Corvette. Corvette. Come on.

Almost. Yeah. Almost screwed it up. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Here we go. With life like hair.

Problem has. Oh my gosh. They really are into the life like air. With life like hair down there. Don't look. Johnny Astro, original commercial superb 8mm sound film transfer. This means you're going to get a quality transfer here, folks, when I play this. I don't know what Johnny Astro is, so I guess we'll find out.

I didn't either until this. This is new for you? Like, this is the first time you'd seen it? Okay. I love the things you find when you research these. The terrible age of man's conquest of space comes an amazing, fantastic, unbelievable new toy that brings you the thrill's, excitement, adventure of the space age. Johnny Astro.

From your Johnny Astro Space Control Center, you Look at that thing. Now it's in midair. In free flight, without any connecting strength of wires. Yeah, you know why? You know why? Okay. Is that a little fan down there in the left?

Inside is blowing some balloons. It sure is. I got some balloons. You probably have to blow up yourself. Yeah. And then. And then really hope it stays in the little wind. tunnel there. You have to move the fan around. It is such

movie magic. It's so lame. Using this lever, you control speed and distance. With this one, you control direction. No, you don't. You control the fan. Land on Mars or anywhere. Oh, no, your friend's head. No wires, no strings. There is absolutely nothing between control station and spacecraft. Get Johnny Astro.

Complete the control center. Astronaut and three spacecraft. Now you can control real space flight and land. Johnny and Astros. On the moon. Okay. Gosh, dang, dude. I got to say, though, I kind of want one.

I mean, I wouldn't turn it down. Yeah, I got to have one. Yeah, I wouldn't. I'd take it. Now we move to another terrible name. We've got G.I. Joe. We've got Johnny Astro. And now we have Billy Blastoff.

He was known for... I never heard of Billy Blastoff either. But I believe this is the one. Yeah, so this one, all right, so the space race kind of kicked off way back when, when Russia was probing space and was like, well, yeah, we're going to go to the moon. And so, and we did that. So, and now China's mooning it again, and we're like, well, we better get back to the moon. We don't want anybody to take her stuff.

But this was Billy Blastoff was apparently this commercial was really trolling the Russians. So if you're offended by Russian fake accents in a commercial. buckle up you know what i'm not i'm actually excited to hear a fake russian accent i don't feel offended by it at all so here goes let's see how this billy blastoff business plays out so this is the billy blast of space space oh my lord i wasn't quite prepared for it though turns out no i thought you were i mean you prepared me that wasn't your fault yeah yeah okay more made by those ingenious people's at Eldon. Aha.

What have we here? A space saucer that sits on top of the observation tower, which revolves in a 360-degree circle, allowing scientific observations of nearby terrestrial bodies through use of a radar. But that's not cool at all. If I'm a kid, I'm very

disappointed on Christmas. That's not cool. Yeah, that's, that's, yeah, there was a lot of people asking for Johnny Astro and got Billy Blastoff. Yeah. It's like, that's the same, right? Yeah. Look at that oscilloscope. What are those things called? Those scanners in the back with the, um, oh, oscilloscopes, yeah. A oscilloscope, that's right. My dad had one of those for some reason. And I don't know why.

Yeah. Well, you said he operated arcades. He would definitely need that. Oh, you know what? To do, yeah, board stuff. That's true. I didn't think of that. But he always had one in the garage and I always thought, man, that's some science, sci-fi shit outside. It is. If you've never, if you've never actually looked at one before, if you don't know what they're doing, you're like, what is this science stuff. Pretty awesome. Scope. Not bad. What's this? Oh my gosh, dude.

We know this guy's face. And a grabber for surface exploration. Do we know him from something? A jet. A grabber. What a fantastic use of kinetic energy. It enables all of Bidi Blastov's vehicles to operate. I have a much.

One, two, five. Ava munchki. A bit of extraordinary equipment. If we'd only have this settlement, a little sooner. We might have beaten the Americans to the moon. Shut up. Some real shade, dude.

Cases some serious shade. I will say this, I will say this as well. Who are they targeting this? Who are they targeting this commercial to? Yeah, because only parents are getting the whole red scare thing, right? The kids don't know. I guess that's what they're

trying to do. They're thinking, eh, kids don't watch commercials. We'll aim this at the parents and they'll find her humor amusing and we'll then purchase our toys. Yeah, that's wild to me. I didn't, I didn't, I'd never heard of that until now, but. That was the first one I'd seen, yeah. JC Hammond C says, or Jay Hammond C says, the ship's design is so cool.

I mean, it's all right. Retrospectively looking, I think that looks pretty cool. Yeah. And dope, but it's just because it's of that era and at that time. Yeah. And I'd love to play with one. And Luke says, we've never actually gone to the moon. Luke, get out of here.

Well, I mean, what we have now, right? Well, I mean, sure, I don't think that's what Luke means. But yeah, whatever. Whatever. Let's play this. Here we go. Space toys, 1999. Yeah, let's jump ahead.

Did you watch this series, Space 1999? I did. I was big into it back in the day. It was nothing like 1999 actually was. So that's notable. It's a little bit like, what was the, it's 2015? was the year that Marty went to the future. Right.

Back's Future 2, I think. And that's just not even close. Not even close. Not even close. This was a 1975 commercial and I was all in. This is some, look at the quality work on this thing when you're watching this commercial. If you've ever seen the show, you just have to appreciate the quality here. I'm excited.

Here we go. Space 1989, 1975. Ooh, that looks like SARS. You're in space, 1999. with the crew of Moon Base Alpha Command Center. Commander Cornich Kids, Dr. Russell. Hey, these are pretty good red additions of the faces. It's not bad.

Astro Flash computer confirms enemy attack. Red alerts. Locked. Eagle Spaceships. That's, um, uh, it's a light bright. No, no, no, the actor, the actor who plays the, is the doll version of the actor. But what's his name? Uh, he's got, he, he was in Ed Wood.

Oh, Martin Landau. That's it. Martin Landau. There you go. Very good. Oh, we got it right when I-Corps did. Thank you, I-Corps. By the way, the truth in advertising this commercial kind of blew me away. If you listen real close, the kids will start making the sound effects. So far, we've kind of heard sound effects that are, you know, post. But there's actually the kids of making sound effects. Really?

They're quite charming. Okay. I love them. Let's do some more. The Astroflash network beams in the aliens position. Lizars ready. Eagle, fire! What? The enemy ship retreat.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I thought they were going to be like, I don't know what I thought. That wasn't it, though. That was not it. Give me that again. Roll back a little bit. They do one before that, too.

It's kind of hard to hear. Fire. Fire. I lost my ship and I listened to that. Oh, that makes me want to fall over and sleep. That's funny. Oh, my gosh. All right.

Here's more. The enemy ship retreats. Return it up. Need better friends who know how to make sound effects. Space 1999 Moonbase Alpha Command Center and Astro Flash computer comes with the commander, doctor, and professor. Only from Mattel. You know what? I want that set. It's a pretty sweet set.

Yeah, I would set that up and make a little retro, you know, deal. I would do that. That's pretty good. Yeah. That was really good. Oh, Barbara Bain, was that the lady? They looked like, they looked like the actual actors. That was really crazy.

Some really good looking toys. We don't do very well with that these days unless it's like a, you know, really nice McFarland toy or something like that. Or like 3D print stuff. Some of the stuff Ibit does with like the Chani gave me for. Dune over there somewhere, wherever she is. Oh, yeah. Oh, and then Furiosa. I thought I had her handy. Oh, she's over there too. Anyway, you've told you to have Furoza handy. Like, right. Now that you can print your own stuff on like super high-res, you know, fancy printers. It's like a whole different

whole different world now. But back then, I remember it was a real shot in the dark. It's like will these Star Wars characters look like them or will Luke look like a little smeary-faced stranger? You know what? And it happened. Yeah. It's like you could tell like They stamp those things with the color or something and they're like, oops, missed. Yeah. Somebody adjust the machine. Well, here's the good news.

When we do stuff like this, it's kind of a tease because tonight we are doing this very thing again. And we're doing a double stacker tonight. We're doing play retro first at 4 p.m. And then right after that, we'll roll into watch retro, which is a whole other thing where we look at some old animations, some old cartoons. We see what kids were subjected to in a time that is not now. I can promise you that of days past.

Yeah. Remind me what was the first one, the insectoid? No. Yeah, sectors. Sectors. Is that how you say it?

Sectars, sectars. Something like that, but it's insects. It's absolutely insects. They talk and they have powers. Okay. That's all you.

And they have bug eyes. And they have bug eyes. I can't wait. Yeah. I can't wait to talk about it. Oh my gosh. It's going to be great, dude. So be with us today at four.

For a double header. Yeah, we usually do them on Tuesdays, but yesterday was crazy. So be here tonight. You're going to get more done away than you care to ever have in your life all at once. We're going to do a pre-show, too. If you show up early, you'll be just catch that. If you don't, you can catch it on the Patreon support. But we're going to cover the what after Nutella had such an amazing showing on the Artemis 2,

I decided to also look at space food in some of the commercials. So that's where we're going to be continuing this conversation. in that vein. Yeah, I love me. Space food, big fan. Yeah, space food. I've had some actual space food, not just tang, but like... Not just tag, right? What was the... Like, like, like, ice cream, right?

Not like astronaut ice cream? No, although that is a thing, right? That's a... Yeah, it is, but that's like, it's like kind of fake, right? Yeah, and it tastes like you're eating cardboard paper or something. Something, yeah. Or yeah, it's dehydrated, right? You have to have water or something.

But I remember there was some kind of stick or like a wafer. Oh, well, guess what? That's real. And we're going to watch one of those commercials tonight. Those were called space sticks or space food sticks, food sticks. Food space, space food sticks. It was a Pillsbury thing, space food sticks. That's what they were called.

It's a Pillsbury thing? We're like the, you poke him in the belly and you go, oh, he-he-he-he, that whole thing? Yeah, but he can't do that because if he does, he'll explode. So it's in space. Yeah, well, I can't have that. Wait to see the Pillsbury doughboy in space without his helmet on. It's going to be great. The world's, the universe is.

great nemesis. Yeah. The freaking Pillsbury Doughboy in space. Dono-Wa, thanks for hanging out with you, man. I totally appreciate it. Oh, yeah. And have fun of the rest of your work day.

And we, hell, we used a bunch of it, so hopefully you don't get in trouble for it. Oh, that's okay. I ate my lunch at my desk and I took my, I still got a little bit of time left, so it's perfect.

Nice. Well, stay out of trouble. I'll talk to you soon. And kiss my butt. All right. There he goes. All right. That was great.

Brian, it looks like Dunn, or Ibit has joined the chat. I assume that means his appointment went well. He may have gotten her earlier. I didn't say it until just now. Anyway, good to see your name in there, buddy. Everything went well today.

And he'll be back here tomorrow, of course, for another episode of TMS. And Wendy will be here too. So count on that. I think that's it. I have a packed day full of nonstoppery. It would be great if you could wish me luck in trying to accomplish all.

that lay before me. All right. If you can, that'd be great. And if you can't, that's fine too. Thanks for hanging out and letting us do the little bit of weird one-off. And if you've got any questions or thoughts or feelings or whatever, keep all that stuff coming. Frogpants.com slash TMS. We'll see you next time. This has been a Frogpants production. Find all our shows at Frogpants.com.